Danke schön, baker-san

cozy Rin and punk Sugs edition.

>>97787373
Beautiful, thank you

>>97787373
hey baker senpai, would you be interested in a tool to make the collage from within the thread? something to load, scale and arrange the images without leaving the thread
no fancy editing or cropping

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>>97787373
>my pic is only a few steps away from touching the roguehobbies pic

>>97787384
Did someone else post a Rin image last thread or am I tripping? I'm fairly sure I didn't post one in a while

>>97787474
Baker has a tiny Rin image in the OP to fill space because Rin will forever be the thread mascot despite what some tourists believe.

>>97787384
Back to Discord.

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>>97787373
Wouldn’t count as a WIP since I finished it in November, but I had a great time bringing this unreleased necron lord back to life. The most painstaking part was pinning the left arm, but otherwise it was a smooth process.

I reverse engineered a ceramic-style bone scheme I used on an old army box lord that I actually posted in one of these threads back in 2015. I made a few improvements and documented everything to use on some of my other old ‘crons later.

>>97787536
trying too hard, nigger

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Build a Haarken Count as based on a different conversion I saw

>>97787540
>tubes
feelsgoodman.jpg
>not green
heresy

Did we definitely come to a conclusion as to whether or not 2d art is helpful for mini/3d painting last thread, or was it just shit flinging and bait?

>>97787675
its helpful but most of it was shitflinging so its not really worth coming back to

>>97787559
>jetpack terminators
You know ive never even though about it, but that mini is rad as fuck. Excellent pose anon.

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kitbashing is fun

>>97787675
even if you couldn't apply it to 3d it will totally help with freehands

>>97787675
I think 2d is helpful.
But mini painting is also helpful because you are observing light and then painting that. Doing more art things from different perspectives will always give you more perspectivd and practice, so go ham

2d art doesnt let you practice great brush control though, because in that you often draw from the shoulder rather than the fingers and wrists

>>97787551
Can't try to hard when it comes to weeding out celebrity worship, especially simps for that uggo.

>>97787724
Yeah, best part of the hobby for me.

>>97787739
You are a tourist here.
Please don't try and change it to your liking

>>97787739
kek, I thought you were talking about Rin and had no idea what you were bringing up discord for.

>>97787748
I've been here longer than you, keep your celeb shit out of the thread.

>>97787761
Nah, at least the avatarfag contributes.

>>97787775
No you have not lmao.

>>97787724
Sick

>>97787778
I've been here since the start and joined 4chan in its first year. Yes I have.
But that's not important, just some sidetrack you brought up. Keep your e-crush to yourself.

If it's still like this when I get back I'm going to start primerposting

>>97787799
Lmao, keep deluding yourself.
This is a sug positive thread and always will be.

>>97787808
Yeah? Show me.

>>97787824
She's in the op?

+1 for sugs positive thread.
Fuck goobertown though, dude has pedo vibes.

>>97787836
Nah man, keep going.

Stop taking the bait
Stop feeding the trolls
Go back to painting
Post minis
Drill your barrels

>>97787775
As much as I hate ecelebs Suggs actually posted here and I barely ever saw anyone sperging over her. Seethe about Rinposter started not long as well. You might be a 4chan veteran or whatever imagine being proud of being here for 20+years, fucking LMAO but you're definitely a tourist in this thread. Now shut the fuck up and stop trying to change it to your liking you obnoxious faggot

>>97787889
That's no excuse. You're the one flexing seniority with your tourism talk, now start posting more of her so we can see if you're right.

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>this eerily similar way of posting
There's no way, right...?

>>97787922
stay in your containment general spamming your shitty raptors terminator thanks

>>97787799
>I've been here since the start and joined 4chan in its first year. Yes I have.
Who was shii?

>>97787922
Of course it's that retard. BT crap was also posted yesterday.
The issue is the faggot that keeps replying to the braindead cretin.

>>97787925
I wasn't thinking of your 40kg lolcow but I guess you jumping to that conclusion is pretty telling

>>97787480
>Rin
I had a few Rins in mind when I read this and none of them were a cozy camper. I was hoping for a precocious twin tailed elementary student

>>97787931
https://shii.bibanon.org/shii.org/knows/Everything_Shii_Knows.html

>>97787960
Mah nigga.

I'll be honest, I'm a pretty oldfag, but not from the beginning, and while I'm not part of this shit flinging, even I don't know this shii person.

>>97788129
It's something deliberately obscure which I won't get deep into. To make a long story short, back when 4chan was a new thing me and some other anons from Shii's site invaded it due some misunderstandings which I won't get into.

>>97787675
All art is helpful to one degree or another, all depends on how you use it. Things like album covers can be good inspiration for color choices, old oil painting can inspire style choices, some techniques can be adapted (maybe not 1 to 1) and be used, etc. Art is such a personal thing, inspiration can come from anywhere.

>>97787841
He was fine until the allegations.

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It's time for Nagash.

>>97788223
Exciting
Good luck

Oh shit, I missed a few neko galaxy releases and one of them has feet.

>>97788299
LINK

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>>97788327
https://nekogalaxyminiatures.bigcartel.com/product/lazy-night-mode-on

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>>97788354
>the guy that designed this was my childhood friend that lived on the same street
Holy shit it really is a small world. He's actually the one that got me into warhammer, too.

>>97788375
Honestly not really sure what 'designed by' means in this context. Like, I like the nekogalaxy figures, but his role seems to just be to find concepts he likes, hire a third world 3d sculptor to make them, and then hire a mould/casting contractor, and hire a painter to do the official box art paint job. Like I don't know what HE does other than show up to cons to trick people into going to the booth with his tatted up alt gf.

>>97787373
Building delaque gangers and damn what are they finicky to build... Takes me an hour to assemble two of them

>>97788391
I'm not sure either and I don't really care but he was pretty artistically gifted so I could definitely see him coming up with the initial designs and painting these. When we were teenagers he had a beautifully painted DEldar army.

>>97788354
wtf happened to her toes? Is that some ai melting?

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>>97787373

>>97788422
Oh, yeah it looks like he may have done the design for this one. Maybe he only licenses concepts for some of them.

>>97787619
>heresy

I know, I know. I chose red because muh autism. I still have a bunch of the green ones around for old times’ sake, even if they were a bit of a pain in the ass to work with

>>97788740
>red
colorblind too

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It's expensive, but I might have to pull the trigger on this lad fer obvious reasons...

>>97788879
I-is he all right?

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Been making my first sci fi bases today. Usually play fantasy so it was nice to ban my usual pine bark and tufts and shit. Still need to do a tilegrout and dirt pass to fill some gaps but enjoying fucking about adding stuff. Gonna be for a 90's Escher gang

>>97789099
Nice watch collection?

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another thread another wip, not happy with how his boots are coming out, lines look sloppy. Gives a lot more depth than on the arm though, so I'm probably going to have to try and blackline that tomorrow

>>97789099
rad as fuck anon. great use of zipties and old electrical components, but aren't those batteries really expensive?

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>>97789099
Nice.

>>97787675
2d techniques are useful in certain situations, mostly where you are trying to depict something that isn't actually reflected in the 3d model. like if you want to make the straps on a harness look like they're woven nylon but the actual plastic is smooth, or if your wizard is holding a crystal ball and you want it to look like real crystal but there's no convenient way to cut it off and replace it with a transparent part. the idea that miniatures have to be painted like illustrations or that light doesn't work the same at some unspecified scale is total bunk though.

>>97789433
nta, you can get them cheap as fuck on aliexpress or similar sites, i'm gonna guess they are spent too, or the watch they were for is...well, in the next base over
i would more worried about them bulging or something

>>97789537
the further you go for quality in miniature painting the closer it will take from 2d art. You're not gonna get display tier skin textures, textiles, leathers or freehand without it.

>>97789642
I don't remember who it was, but in a recent video I heard a person say with warhammer sized things generally less is more, but with busts more is definitely more.
Of course it still follows that you want to work from large to small, so it should already look good before you get around to tinier details.

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>>97789260
My friend's a jeweler and kept shitty watches to the side for me. I stripped them for cogs and dials for my Skaven. These parts were the more techy looking bits I had leftover after stripping a bunch of junky electric watches.

>>97789433
They were free to me but don't think the little watch batteries are too pricey

>>97789569
I was thinking about the bulging or some venting, gonna roll the dice and hope for the best. Those watch parts all had such nice shapes made for them it was too hard to resist popping them in

>>97787675
I personally think practicing drawing helped me a lot with miniature painting, even if indirectly. Fine motor control and skills like observation are very transferable, and color choice too. As stupid as it sounds, I stuck to the style of flat colors + washes for way too long...

>>97789642
that's wrong. the more you paint your 3d thing like 2d the more 2d it will look. consider that daniel craig space marine someone posted in the last thread. it looked good, but did it actually look like daniel craig in a space marine suit? no, it looked like a painting of daniel craig in a space marine suit. you will never obtain that "real thing but shrunken" look when you are approaching the entire project with 2d techniques.

>>97789569
>>97789688
Yeah ditch the batteries, they can bulge, leak acid or even explode with age.

>>97789688
I like these a lot. But make sure you rattle can prime them, they will chip like a mf if you don't.

>>97789099
I like this

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>>97789740
good thing display painting isn't 1:1 realism

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Saw a cool crimson fists diorama at WHW, starting a firstborn army with some old terminators I got from a mate and some Mk6 marines I was sent by mistake. Don't have much time these days so its practically a speed painting scheme, but quite like it.

>>97789741
fair enough yeah, batteries ditched. Replaced with some round gubbins that aren't a perfect fit but have less chance of spontaneous chemical breakdown

>>97789749
good point ty

>>97790008
that's just like your opinion man. golden demon isn't the ultimate arbiter of style.

do not engage this bullshit further holy fuck

>>97790183
That wasn't golden demon, look at Monte San Savino, Crystal Brush or any of the online display competitions. They all use very artistic lighting at a minimum.

I fell for Nightshift shilling VMS stuff and bought their primer. It's really fucking good, and will probably become my primer of choice.

>PROS:
Easily the best coverage out of all airbrush primers I've ever tested (Vallejo, AK, Citadel, Stynylrez).
Dries fast (~2 hours before you can paint over it).
Surprisingly durable. Airbrush primers are fragile, VMS is surprisingly tough.
Don't need to thin it all, you can use it straight from the bottle.
Smooth AS FUCK finish, probably the nicest I've seen.

>CONS:
If not thinned, you need to clean up the needle fairly often, definitely more often than the brands I mentioned above.
The final cleanup takes a bit longer, as the paint starts drying fast.

I've bought their varnish and some of the basing materials, and will test them in a couple of days, too.

>>97790396
Nice! I don't really feel a need to try another primer after taking the mr surfacer pill but it's always good to be aware of alternatives. What sort of basing stuff do they make?

>>97790481
They make fuckload of stuff. I bought their "Smart Mud" which is supposedly excellent for doing ground sculpting (like tank tracks) and some textures (rocks, extra fine sand, etc.). It should arrive sometime next week.

>>97790396
Do you happen to have the kalido colorworks primer? My brother really likes that one and says its leagues better than vallejo or monument hobbies. I myself like the stynylrez as a brush-on primer cause sometimes I just want to be quick.

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we have tamiya at home:

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Calling him done, wish he could lead his matching zerkers but he's gonna be stuck with some basecoated legionaries. Excited to work on chaos lord and MoP next that I freshly coated and not 5 years of marination since priming

>>97790256
it's all the same concept. they aren't trying to look realistic just like how most traditional artists aren't trying to be indistinguishable from a photograph. it's a different style with a different purpose.

>>97790524
Regrettably not, sorry anon.

>>97790525
>"Using a carefully developed Poly-Weld formula, Thin Plastic Glue doesn’t just hold parts together — it subtly melts plastic surfaces, creating strong, nearly invisible seams."
I hate these faggots so much. It's a fucking 50/50 butyl acetate and acetone, just like any other plastic cement. And it's more expensive than Tamiya's (let alone Tamiya airbrush cleaner), of course.

>>97790525
But does it smell as good as tamiya extra thin? My brain lesions deserve the best.

>>97790530
This is bait?

>>97790567
:(

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>>97790396
I love their acrylic varnish. It would be my goto acrylic matt coat if they were more available to me. Shipping them over added up really fast. I already spend too much on my actual favorite solvent varnish Mr. Color gx114. Speaking of:

>>97790481
Mr. Surfacer is so fucking good. But thats another medium thats quickly becoming too goddamn expensive over here. Especially the leveling thinner ;;

>>97790530
I like the glow around the eyes, and their bases look nice

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Close to calling these done, just a matte varnish to finish.

>>97791068
super clean, great job anon

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>>97787373
Pulled a late evening (night) to finish the third knight, who forgot to wear his helmet

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>>97791253
And here's his cloak.
I now realize I forgot to highlight the battle damage there, rip, I'm tired

>>97791287
Wounds to the front, cousin.

>>97791295
always

>>97791253
How big is your BT army, BT anon?

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BT anon is ignoring me

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Somehow freehanding eyes on a big face feels harder than on tiny space marines

>>97791467
you obviously upset him and now he signed a contract with 40kg

>>97791473
>we've reached levels of smug no one has ever seen before

Does anyone have a picture of weathered/chipped bone colored armor? Waiting on a couple of paints to arrive but I do want to try it, just not sure how its going to look. My auxillia have chipped black armor but I want their secondary color to be white or bone, but Idk if its going to look weird or not

>>97791473
I do not like this paint job. It's smug aura mocks me.

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First little session after a year or so without any paints etc, feelsgoodman. Went with 'yo dawg I heard you like Sororitas' here. Also kind of cheaped out on brushes which was a really bad idea, I'm going to get something non-shit when the shops open.

>>97791972
Every fucking time lol

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Any comments or suggestions for this mini?

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>>97792154
>>97792159
I had never taken a good look at this mini before and I didn't realize how freakishly huge her feet and hands were

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Speeder finally finished

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>>97792423
Other side view

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Next on the chopping block: Mk IV tacticals.

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all right since I got Baker-sans blessing...
>>97792423
Very nice! I like the dirty silver and the scheme is as good as ever. I think you could improve the heat staining effect by adding a little black wash(or pigment, if you have it) at the very top of the barrels.
>>97792154
I like your color choices and it looks pretty good so far. You could obviously smooth out blends on the cloth but I'm not sure how much more work you're planning to put into her. Also, I really like how you did that ochre stone.
>>97791473
His expression is killing me.
>>97791253
>>97791253
Great job as always!
>>97791068
These are fantastic. Lenses and that blue sword in particular are really well done.
>>97790530
Could definitely use some shading to add depth. I like the blood splatter and glow effects.
>>97790016
>its practically a speed painting scheme
Nice work still. Chipping adds some nice visual interest and I like the shade of blue you've chosen.
>>97789099
Very creative and looks great, can't wait to see them painted.

>>97792518
>Very nice! I like the dirty silver and the scheme is as good as ever. I think you could improve the heat staining effect by adding a little black wash(or pigment, if you have it) at the very top of the barrels.
Thanks! I did think about getting a black pigment acutally. Might pick it up next time I'm shopping.

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Viking host is almost done. Still need to base the Scottish auxiliaries.

>>97791253
>>97791287
Awesome as always.

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some honeycomb progress

>>97792854
>not painting the honey as cum
missed opportunity

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Working on the base for my Leviathan Dreadnought. Not done yet and waiting on some paints to arrive before I can finish it.

>>97792898
Very based basing choice

>>97792898
I mean the gore effect is pretty great but giving that clown even more attention is absolutely fucking retarded

>>97792914
> that clown
Russ?
What the fuck are you talking about

>>97792918
oh my bad I thought you were doing this for next months 40kg collage

>>97792912
Thanks
>>97792914
Funnily enough, I voted for the new unit option but I decided to have some fun with this one and depict the Months of Shame with a Red Hunters Dreadnought. Honestly, I don't really care about decalfag and I'm not really interested in causing him to sperg out, even though he inevitably will.

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Started a necromunda campaign with some mates, real fun so far
Think I want to add a little more colour to these, maybe I'll make the helmets red across the board

Okay, stupid question - if I have large models like tanks or planes, how I'm supposed to hold them for painting? If I would glue some holding rods to the belly of a tank, these areas would stay unpainted but if I would take off turret (since many scale models have rotating and thus detachable turrets) and glue rod inside, I would have to paint upside down, which is somewhat confusing.

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>>97791467
Sorry, I passed out
I think I have over 3k pts painted. I even played a 1k game a couple months ago, my second game ever, pic rel (my termies were proxies for my opponent btw). Sorry if off topic

>>97792518
>>97792816
Thank you lads

>>97792431
I was tempted to get some of these guys or some other HH marines to proxy intercessors but at this point I'll wait for 11th ed ones to decide. Good work on the speeder

>>97793012
>Think I want to add a little more colour to these
imo painting the shoulder pads would make it way more punchy. Even with this muted color scheme

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Finished the Tomb Kings blood bowl team. They’re themed around the dreadhorde army from mtg, which is also why they’re blue, red, and black colored to be grixis.
I’m kinda getting the hang of oil paint now

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We claim this biomass for the hive fleet

>>97793429
Oh no. You seem to have developed some kind of infestation.

>>97792898
CHOKE ON 'EM!

>>97792898
nice, but I think you need to spread out some more damage around the armor, right now he looks factory fresh but just ripped in half.

>>97793327
Nice, sandy bases?

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Minor update on the ram. Still a lot of weathering to do, a lot of shading and the like as well. Planning on using texture paste on the wheels and lower parts of the ram with some pigments and other added effects to make it look like it's in use or seen recent use. All in all I'm pretty happy with the way it's taking shape. The metallic paint on the iron banding around the wheel and across it went on sort of rough as a result of brush priming the styrene. I'm just going to take those rough spots and cover them with some mud, and then with others exploit them and turn them into rust and wearing on the iron itself.

Gonna use AK true metal wax as a finishing touch on the banding, maybe I'll give a quick look at how to use it. Under exploited and under rated product imo. Its a wax based "paint" that you can polish and buff to a realistic finish. The thing that sets it apart aside from that is the fact that it is made using actual metal pigment of some sort. Not sure exactly how they do that or what it means, but the difference is dramatic and undeniable. For a weathered piece like this it's really great for using as a highlight and strategically to simulate the less worn parts of the iron to create serious depth. It really stands out from the mud and duller metallics so it should look pretty cool when its done, contrasting with the duller colors of the wood and mud, sod roof etc.

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And a little scratch built bunker i started the other day as a gift for a based local wargamer

>>97793489
yeah but I kept the blue pre-glaze the the models had.

>>97788212
Wait, there were allegations?
Least surprising thing in the world but I never heard of this.
You'd better not be talking about the serial killer jokes.

Who wants to do an April painting contest? Any suggestions for the theme?

>>97793777
my god why the fuck do you care about some e-celeb gossip

>>97793790
Clowns for April Fools, maybe

>>97793793
Sorry for wasting a 4chan post, I'll compensate you $0.00.

>>97793790
I'd be more than happy to participate but I have no idea how to come up with a theme that anons painting a variety of stuff could do.

>>97793790
I can't stand painting, so probably not.
Maybe though.

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>>97793849
>I can't stand painting,
>posts in /wip/

>>97793849
This is like those people who post "I don't know" in Amazon questions.

>>97793777
>You'd better not be talking about the serial killer jokes.
Was totes just talking about the serial killer jokes.

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>>97793872
>totes

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>>97793909
We're bringing it back.

>>97793860
It is my penitence

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Time to my bane - female face highlighting.

>>97793790
I'd be in as long as its a theme I can participate without having to buy a new mini lmao.
So maybe some kind of generalistic theme.
Easter?
Spring?
idk im bad at ideas

>>97794351
I suggest you clean up the eyes before going too much further on the face, but you do you.

>>97794434
Now eyes are wrong too? Damn...

>>97794351
she has that ozempic face

I have two questions.
1) Can I use contrast medium + whatever acrylic paint to create my own contrast-like paint? I know the tinting effect wont be as pronounced but still.
2) Whats the best 'contrast medium' for this purpose? Citadel, Vallejo, AP, other...?

>>97794498
unfortunately you WILL actually die if you do this.

>>97794507
Its a risk Im willing to take since I dont have much to lose.

>>97794498
>Can I use contrast medium + whatever acrylic paint to create my own contrast-like paint
Not exactly. The pigments they use in contrast-like paints are translucent so they tint the surfaces. If you just add contrast/speedpaint medium to a regular acrylic you'll get something a lot more opaque that will behave in a similar manner - it will stick to flat surfaces more than a wash.

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>>97794445
Yeah, it's always something, isn't it?
I think the main issue is just that you're doing like a REALLY heavy black line on the inside of the eye, You should have a bit of a dark line to separate, but only subtle and more skin-toney than black.
If it's supposed to be like an eye liner thing, it should still be more subtle and then simulate the eyelashes+liner by going out further rather than going in like that.
I would recommend something like picrel.
It depends on the geometry of the eye sculpt too. Sometimes models aren't always friendly to nicely painted eyes or small features.
I only did kind of the minimum eyelashes in the example since I don't know what you are going for with her.

If nothing else I would just make the big black line more subtle.

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>>97794568
I understand what you have in mind but I'm afraid I cannot achieve necessary precision. Even if this print is quite big (15cm in size, not a bust). In meantime I kinda fucked up skin, phone cannot catch it properly but there are rather ugly "scratches" instead of smoth lines and I cannot really overcome it as it always happens when I try to paint faces or skin in general.

This is supposed to be Joan D'Arc, by the way.

>>97794618
Not that guy, but I like it so far. Keep up the work and gain more experience.

Lately I have been pretty fucking lazy and didnt even want to set up the wet palette and have been using a good ol tile for all of my painting.
Pretty neat for some quick painting session, gotta say.

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>>97794618
Oh, this reference might be more useful for Joan of Arc.

>>97794839
Englishmen still salty I see.

>>97794845
Unlike their food.

How old were you when you grew out of your 'washes bad' phase?
Theyre such an incredible tool for occlusion shadows I cant believe I spent years actively avoiding them.

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>>97787373
I was painting these on a work trip and check them under the backlight last night need to mix better yellow and work the umbra on most of them.

>>97794923
I'm don't know. I think washes are fine, just not in the context of the base/wash/drybrush GW procedure.

>>97794923
Was never in it. Wash is a tool like any other.

>>97794923
>washes bad
Why would anyone claim this kind of a midwit nonsense in the first place?

>>97794999
Just put the paint where you want it.

>>97794950
Damn, you got a lot of cum on those guys

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>>97787373
>>97788586
Weekends worth of models for my long guard refresh project. Moving on to the 10 jungle fighters I assembled and 3 - 5 ancient jungle fighters who had broken Laguna/needed a flamer. Actually tried eyes and it turned out 11% better than 30 years ago when I painted them originally at 13

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>>97795214
Pic with the ratlings and the grenade launcher

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>>97791287
Followed your advice on glazing red back overtop orange red highlights, haply with the saturation.
Not on your level though
1/3

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>>97795335
2/3

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>>97795348
3/3

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>>97790544
>>97792518
Thanks! Yeah you're right but I'm so eager to get to the meat of my alpha legion units. But I won't varnish him and when I get tiered of green I'll revisit him. Here's he, my last standing model against basically the whole custodes army, nearly drawing the game at 53-56. Was a very fun game

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Holy shit I love Knights
I have a small but noticeable tremor that makes painting smaller models difficult but not impossible. GW have been shoving so many details in some areas of their models it makes it hard for me to not make mistakes, and being that I like CSM it's worse.
I've been having a blast painting my Chaos Knight, I feel like I'm making progress and I don't have to try and navigate around poses to reach compact areas full of details. I'm making a lot of progress and it looks good without fucking around cleaning mistakes constantly.

>>97795353
why do your robots always look like they were carved out of potato or something? is that just how battletech models are?

>>97795852
Elaborate.

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>>97795852
NTA but old school metals are not known for being crispy.
They can be made crispy, Reaper and Dark Sword are two examples of highly detailed metals, but it's a spectrum, because these are sculpted by hand.

>>97795852
these are shitty 3dprints

>>97795964
>shitty
You should see the bubbly pvc crap that the current "official" mech minis are.
3D prints of the Battletech MMO gamerip models is the best option there is.
Otherwise it's chinesium or old ass 80s style metal.

>>97795852
hey anon, most models basically ARE carved from potatoes, thats why things like edge highlighting and panel lining became so popular post heavy metal style, paint details in that the model itself lacked.
now that models are crisper you get shit like slapchop and speedpaints where people rely on the model quality to fill in for missing paint skills.

>anon dares to question craftsperg
>three replies, each one minute apart
toplel

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Is she going to be massive and sideways again? Let's see

>>97796005
don't give him attention

>>97796013
Then why did you just reply to the sperg?

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>>97795985
Edge highlighting came later, if you try to edge highlight a potato model the line would be super wide.
You actually see more volumetric highlighting and blending, as well as freehanding, in the potato era because they used the blank spots as a canvas.

>>97796034
>used the blank spots as a canvas.
That's one of the things that makes painting these mechs a joy for me.
Plenty of panel lines, but vehicles lend themselves to monocolor, so using the entire thing as a blank canvas works.
Obviously I don't always go all in like with the rose ones, but the freedom is there, not like with 28mm humanoids where X% is flesh, eyes are eyes no matter what, same for hair, pouches, etc...

>>97793208
>mo painting the shoulder pads would make it way more punchy
yeah I might try red on the shoulder pads

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finished the railing for my Mech.

>>97796070
Love the looks already, anon. How big is this going to be?

>>97796077
pretty big, it's based off the Bismark anti-shipping turret from Takom. I'm going to enter it into a mini's contest in august.

>>97796097
Please do post updates, love me mechs and I love Takom kits, too.

>>97796125
Will do!

>>97796006
Very nice shadow gradient on the face from the hood, and the desaturated leather is nice as well.

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>>97796070
You got time to lean, you got time to clean.

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I think I'm gonna start on the veil today on this model.

it's basecoated pure black and I want to make it a super light blue. do I paint the face first them glaze the veil color over the face? or mix the face and veil color and paint that over the face?

>>97794351
looks fine to me honestly, maybe clean up the red on the lip and nose. looks like blood. also tidy the eyebrows.

I think the buckles and belts on the cape could use a little bit of work instead

>>97794568
>>97794618
God DAMN bro applied the eyeliner to the white of her eyeballs instead of on the eyelids....WTF

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Finally got my riptide done at least enough to assemble it together. The blue didn't turn out as even as I would have liked. I guess I should have airbrushed it on.

>>97796483
I've never attempted this so take this with a grain of salt. I would do the face then glaze the veil over it. One, I feel it would be easier to do in general than trying to figure your face highlights and shadows while also accounting for the veil on top. Two, mixing your paints may very well dull down the color to something you don't want.

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I just started painting some Napoleonic miniatures for the first time and I'm absolutely dismayed at how much harder it is than Warhammer. All the details are so much smaller and finer, there is tons of tiny trimming and lace that if you fuck up it just looks totally wrong. One model is probably taking me 4x as long as I'm used to. It's frustrating thinking you're a pretty decent painter after a decade with Warhammer painting and then getting such a reality check. It's like if you were playing a video game and just when you feel like you mastered the game you realize you've been playing on easy mode the entire time.
I don't understand how old boomers with shaky hands churn out hundreds of these figures

>>97796572
The standard for massed infantry is actually a bit lower, those minis are painted well but they're not painted like Infernal Brush (nor would it be reasonable to expect) and they're the store models anyway.
>All the details are so much smaller and finer,
Somebody's never been to Chaos Trim Hell.
>I don't understand how old boomers with shaky hands churn out hundreds of these figures
If you brace your hands right it's not much of an issue. There's a link in the OP actually. I don't have shaky hands but the extra control is useful.

>>97796567
nice tallgeese 2

>>97796749
that's what I was going for, glad it looks like it.

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beards are hard..... but rewarding :>

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I declare a crusade on all unpainted models, I will finish my little bretonnian army by the end of this year. preferably by the end of the spring.

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Hopefully I'll get the arms on tomorrow

To paint white cloth i need to paint the cloth with light grey then wash with dark grey and hightlight with off white?

>>97797072
we went over this in the last thread. to paint white cloth you paint it white. if you want it off white then paint it off white. if you want it to look like fuzzy wool but the plastic has no texture then good luck I have no idea.

>>97797072
I like to start with a shadow color primer then layer on low saturation off-grays and off-whites before highlighting with pure white

Man if only there was some website with a gazillion video tutorials on how to paint almost anything miniature related.

>>97797025
this looks incredibly chalky

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>>97787373
The glamor shot I said I was going to do days ago. I think I should bite the bullet and go make an actual lightbox but for now I will finally call this done-done. Let's see if I can make anything Easter related by next week.

>>97797471
I'm calcium-maxxing so that when I die my skeleton will have a better shot at murdering the living when it's reanimated. It's like setting your children up for success with a college fund or whatever.

>>97792431
>>97792426
>>97792423
very cool

>>97797471
Woah woah so transphobic bro

>>97797471
Lilly's are white
I'm pushing up daisies
there's a skeleton in you
And soon me too be maybe.

>>97796547
To be honest, I thought that I'm supposed to paint some black around the whites, I don't even know what is eyeliner. Joan would probably not use it anyway...

>>97796625
Nta but Chaos trim is significantly easier than Napoleonic trim. Especially on the new models, which are 5x bigger than 28mm true scale, and the trim is very defined and raised. It's essentially a plastic coloring book

>>97797772
yeah, I never get the complaints about painting chaos marine trim, its the easiest army I've painted

Wait, the new game is out? I totally missed it's release.

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I remembered I have a Rhino and Predator ready for being oiled, so, I threw them into the pipeline along tacticals.

>>97797546
Thanks!

>>97797912
I don't think anything is going to get easier than Necrons. But it's also probably a case of being able to be as complicated as one makes it out to be.

>>97797956
The tank drivers probably really love driving across the bubble wrap planet.
Repulsors lose again.

>>97797969
Common Primaris L

>>97797956
You're making it tempting to do a classic Space Marine army for playing earlier editions of 40k. Is the turret on the Predator kept loose? Never really looked into dealing with the turrets on vehicles, thought about using a bolt to magnetize it but that's probably overkill for the weight added.

>>97798012
Yes, you just put the turret on top of the hull, it has a hole in the top cover to keep it in place. It's a bit loose, so it might fall off if you shake it around too much, but I don't think you need to do anything about it.

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not to siderail this thread into 3d printing but i feel kinda bummed out by this
i mean new tech is cool and makes our lives easier but i feel like it trivializes the whole thing at the same time
new paints make painting easy but at the same time it makes my actual painting skills rusty, airbrushing makes a great even basecoat but i tend to use it for everything else too just because it is there
is this just nostalgia because ive lost some of the magic and hobbying feels a tad stale or have you felt it too

>>97798110
This is such a stupid bait.

>>97798110
If new paints are too easy just use craft paint

>>97798169
Let's go a step further and use test pots of house paint. I saw a guy actually do this.

>>97798242
What type of paint is house paint?
You can strip it with Turpentine so is it like an enamel or oil?
Paint is paint so I assume that if you can thin it you could use it.

>>97798280
Water based latex usually.

>>97798280
THICC

>>97770097
So are you planning to do any other Streamers or YouTubers after you've finished your Asmondgold mini?

>>97798110
>trivializes the whole thing at the same time
How so?
>new paints make painting easy but at the same time it makes my actual painting skills rusty
How do new paints make your painting skills rusty? Because you're being lazy and just washing everything in contrast paints, instead of actually painting miniatures like you use to? Sounds like a you problem.
>airbrushing makes a great even basecoat but i tend to use it for everything else too just because it is there
Once again, sounds like a you problem caused by your own laziness.

>>97796259
Thanks anon, I liked that leather too. I just happened to have nothing but a really flat military brown that just looked like nothing so I tried mixing in a little gloss red and then very pale yellow for highlight shades. I'll remember it whenever I'm doing brown leather. I think the lighting is doing most of the shadow gradient for me though desu

>>97798110
>new paints make painting easy but at the same time it makes my actual painting skills rusty
Post a paint job, I want to see this magical paint that paints itself.

>>97798110
I seethed a little about speedpaints/slapchop/whatever when they first got really popular but it's fine really. I kind of hate the way that stuff looks and it does feel like cheating from a painter's standpoint but it all has its place. People using that and airbrushing etc to get acceptable looking armies on a table quickly aren't stopping me from spending two weeks fucking around learning to blend or whatever on one mini. They're just different motivations.

>Trying to colour match a reference image
>Can't get close, don't have an analogue, even on a test model all of my mixes are off
>get an idea
>Get colour's Html colour code
>ask Gemini AI how to colur match it, giving it the paints that i own
>its gives me the perfect recipe.

>>97798700
Considering all AI models use hex codes of paints from manufacturer's in-store pictures (which are incorrect, compared to the real thing), I find that very difficult to believe.

>>97798751
whatever, and i can't accurately measure out 4:1 paint ratio's perfectly, It doesn't have to be perfect, its just closer to anything I tried.

And i don't care if you're retarded and choose not to believe someone because of your own personal anti ai biases, that just means you're the retard.

>>97798794
>immediately goes ballistic
Figures, lel.

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>>97798804
>Immediately denies reality and calls someone a liar
>Plays victim when responded to.
How womanly.
Anyways here you go

Number 3 was the AI's mix of 4 drops pink horror to 1 drop genestealer purple.
all other numbers were different paints or layering or mixes or mixes and layering.

>>97798794
>>97798854
>personal anti ai biases
I'm telling you how it works, anon. Why do you think it has access to real world photos taken under perfect light? The only tool that comes close is Stahly's, and I don't think it has access to it. Every time I tried using Gemini/GPT/Grok for that use, it gave me nonsense, because it only has access to in-store photos, manufacturer's swatches, or even those retarded online color matching tools. Just ask it, it will link you these, too.
I'm sure that it can help in some rare cases, but I wouldn't depend on it at fucking all. Especially if you can just use your eyes (and Stahly's swatch).

>>97798854
NTA. I believe you. My issue is that what you're doing isn't hard, you just aren't even trying to do it without following AI's instructions. You need to build confidence and just put some stuff on the palette and get mixing and experimenting.

>>97798902
I have a hard time with colors, especially pinning down exact hues. I have the same problem with musical notes, I cannot identify a note at all. they blend together.

Having a way that can aim me in the right direction without having to mix paints adhoc with only vague ideas of how to shift a hue with pigments and experimenting with materials instead of having a starting point to work from makes a huge difference. Sure with experience or with a good eye you don't have to consult an outside party and you'd paint faster. but for plebs or beginners its a huge boost.

>>97798854
Nigga are you blind? Open your own picture in Paint or something and compare the colors yourself.

>>97798854
mixing white/pink into that wouldn't give you #4

>>97798110
But 3D printing is not widely available. I mean, you can buy printer for reasonable price (sort of, it won't make you go bankrupt but it's not exactly cheap) but for miniatures you need resin one and it's not something you can keep in your living room or at your home anyway due to all those fumes produced, cleaning of prints in acetone and so on. It's something you can only set up in basement/garage and under ventilation hood and that alone restrict potential userbase (in case someone would object, let me remind you that outside of US most people live in apartment blocks).

>>97798953
>it's not something you can keep in your living room or at your home anyway due to all those fumes produced
Fuck off GW, the MSDS and VOC testing say otherwise. Mine is in my fucking kitchen.
>acetone
You know literally nothing, its isopropyl.

>>97798935
>real objects under real light in a photo are not perfect analogues to digital flat colours.
News at 11.

>>97798943
4 was me seeing what genestealer purple looked like with a magenta glaze. like i said, I'm retarded when it comes to colours.

>>97798965
>in my fucking kitchen
Let me know what kind of cancer you get.

>>97798977
If you drive a vehicle you inhale worse fumes just by sitting in it, if you live in an urban area the very air you breathe is worse.
Testing has shown that frying fish in oil is worse, glade pulgins are also worse.
Your business model is dead, you had your chance to get on the printing trend and you decided to be a little bitch about it.

can you please continue this in /3dpg/, thanks

>>97798967
>>real objects under real light in a photo are not perfect analogues to digital flat colours.
It's not even the same color family, anon. Then again, this is what happens when you use AI that has no access to actual real life photos (taken under neutral light).

>>97798953
>acetone
No.
>you can't keep it in your home, because I know fuckall about things I'm writing long posts about
If you can buy a 3D printer, you can also buy a growbox or something similar. Even a cheap chink one will work fine. Then you can make your own air system from a tube and old computer fan. Or, you can buy the most basic bitch air filtration for a couple of USD. That way, you can keep VOCs in nice levels. I wouldn't personally say to keep it in your kitchen or living room, because while you can easily filter 99% of VOCs during printing, you will also need to clean that shit somewhere. And that can get messy, especially if you fuckup.
tl;dr if you have a spare room, you can print in the apartment block completely fine.
t. actually own a 3D printer in a commie block.

>>97799004
Stop baiting.

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>>97791473
He's coming along

>>97798967
>like i said, I'm retarded when it comes to colours.
Sounds like you're retarded in other ways too, anon. The AI will give you wrong information and you'll never know because you can't be fucked to learn it yourself.

if you're so worried about fumes from 3d printing why don't you just set it up next to your paint spray booth?

>>97799066
Facts and obvious solutions are irrelevant when anons argument is a thin veil over anons actual purpose of spreading well-poisoning lies to try and make people afraid to stop buying corporate plastics.

>>97798110
try doing some digital kit bashes, or else look for multi-part kit STLs (they do exist). The hobby is still there, it's just what you make of it.

For better or worse, the heavy focus on competitive 40k means most people buying and painting models are doing it to make them presentable game pieces as quickly as possible, so a pre-assembled STL and speed-paints are going to appeal a lot more to those players.

I recently decided to try painting with only regular paint. No pre-mixed washes or speedpaints, no airbrushing or underpainting, and very limited use of metallics. Not for the "challenge" or anything, but try and find the fun in painting again, and I did enjoy it actually. You might try similar for yourself, but you don't need to draw the line where I did.

>>97798854
Your ai girlfriend isn't real and won't fuck you, Anon.

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Finished. I'm happy with the result, even though there might be tons of things you could improve.

>>97799147
>Share experience about using a tool to make life better
>Get dog piled on by luddites.

I remember when 4chan made fun of retards who thought the internet was a series of tubes.

>>97799181
>make shittier decisions and lose all agency because you trust a slop peddler
>wtf why are people making fun of me???

>>97799181
I use color pickers if a color scheme is giving me trouble, but the sloppa is just wrong.

>>97799181
Nigga, you posted a shitty "advice" about mixing paints that are not even similar in the first place. Other anons told you how to do these things yourself and actually well. Instead of being grateful, you keep screeching about ai biases and luddites, which shows you are the one with agenda here.

I used AI for some advice on color schemes a couple times and it did a decent job

>>97799181
>I remember when 4chan made fun of retards
You don't need to remember, it's happening right now.

>>97799181
>I remember when 4chan made fun of retards who thought the internet was a series of tubes.
What the fuck is it then? A truck?

color picker is literally useless unless you have a calibration chart in the same photo that you're picking from

>>97799181
kys

>>97799181
The luddites are right, you're a retard. Learn from people, not slop machines. AIfags get the rope

>>97799066
My head is less than 2 feet away from my resin printer when I'm painting.
Miss me with that health and safety shit

>>97799232
Grateful for the advice of "just learn it yourself bro"

That's not fucking advice. That'll happen over time. There was not a single piece of advice given

Just screeching autist afraid of a machine.

>>97799513
>zoomer just wants everything handed to him on a silver platter instead of putting in the effort to learn himself
Classic

>>97799513
You got recommended Stahly's swatch, which is, afaik, the most accurate color matching tool out there. It's in the OP mega if you can't find it. That's pretty much all you need to start tinkering and mixing on your own.
But it really seems like you are a retard, so stick with AI, it's a good match.

>>97799520
>Boomer thinks that the knowledge gained over 20 years is something that someone can just figure it out in a second
>Boomer not valuing new tools or information, and just telling people to do it the old way because boomer doesn't know better.

many such cases.

>>97799533
I came here not even asking for advice but sharing a little tip that i found made my workflow easier and faster, I was ignorant of Stahlys before i posted.

only reason why i'm still posting now is because so many people dog pilled me calling me liar for no reason and calling me a retard with reason. You don't like my advice don't take it. But the aggression of the people in this general is unreal.

>go to artistic-related thread
>'wow guise isnt aislop great'
>get shit on
>'wtf why are you so mean'
Youre even more retarded than I initially expected.

>>97799596
Anon, be real. The tip you shared sucks dick, with a shitty result. That's why everyone piled on you. It's the same thing with craftsperg sharing a tip about using craft paints. It's a shitty tip, hence you got dunked on. Take the L, use Stahly's, and learn to mix your own paints like a normal person so that you don't need to be dependent on a shitty reddit search engine.

>>97799596
People involved with anything creative tend to hate AI more than your average person

>>97799630
but muh jewtubers said craft paints work fine if you thin them with windex

>>97799533
>>97799596
Okay, I reviewed this Stahly's swatch.

And its not a solution for me. It tells me which color i have to buy, and how it paints which is useful. But it does not tell me how to get to a colour using the limited colours I have on hand. I still think my post has merit as a tool in addition to what was provided as alternatives.

If i had time and money to buy all the paint on stahly's and never have to worry about mixing paint again then sure, but right now as a quick and easy hack that gets me close enough, which is all I want when painting miniature toy soldiers I think my post was perfectly acceptable and did not deserve the hate that it got.

>>97799630
>and learn to mix your own paints like a normal person

ah yes, instead of a solution that i can use now, that will get me started on learning how to mix paints, instead I should spend years of trial and error and cost in materials and time, just to get me to the same point I could just start at today, and then start learning from that point today?

Completely unreasonable boomer tier advice.

shut the fuck up you absolute smoothbrained double gorilla nigger go vent to your beloved chatbot and stop polluting the thread with your garbage and whining

>>97799720
maybe next time don't call people liars and insult them over the color of a toy soldier.

I wouldn't be posting now if the original replier hadn't been such an insuferable holier than thou cock sucker who insulted me and pissed me off with terrible retard logic.

treat people like shit, get treated like shit. Simple as.

>>97799702
You’re over exaggerating to make your point little drama queen. Mixing paints is a kindergarten tier skill, takes little skill takes little time. Stop being afraid of making a mistake and not getting the hue 0.0001% correct and just go mix paints

>>97799630
>things that never happened
The hate on craftsperg is because he took a steaming dump on contrast paints, before that anons were praising his freehand work.

>>97799541
AI won't just give you 20 years of experience on a plate either. It just tells you you got it spot on, good job, you're a real painter now! And you so desperately want to have found this really clever shortcut, so you believe it.
Don't take this as some kind of knee-jerk reaction to new technology either. As another anon pointed out far up the comment chain, the AI simply doesn't have good information available to it about how your paints look or how the paint you want looks. So even if the AI was straight up perfect when it comes to figuring out the mixing, it still can't give you a really good recipe. Depending on what you have and what you want it may also simply not be possible to mix a really good match, something the AI is unlikely to tell you unless you bring it up yourself.

Of course, you already know all of this. Which is why you went from the AI's mixes being perfect to them just needing to be better than your attempts the moment you had the slightest pushback. But between the AI reassuring you that it's all fine on one hand, and your own fear of doing it wrong on the other, you're just too terrified of doing things on your own. And so the training wheels stay on, and you never get started on those twenty years of practice that you want to savour the fruits of.

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>>97799687
>have colors A, C, D, and E
>need color B
>check the swatch to get actual painted on look of it
>shit, A and C might work
>mix them, get B
That's literally it. If you are not aiming for some historically accurate color (in which case, you might wanna just buy new paints made under the standard), this is how you get a proper color.
The problem with using AI for this kind of thing is that it DOES NOT have access to how the actual paints look. See picrel. Left is from the Citadel website, right is Stahly's. How accurate do you think the AI will be when it only has access to the left side? And this is not even the most outrageous difference, Citadel swatches are fairly okay, but other brands are often a lot wilder.

>>97799702
(You).

>>97799630
>It's the same thing with craftsperg sharing a tip about using craft paints
Not what happened, revisionist-kun. He was acting high and mighty only to post a complete dumpster tier miniature, he deserves to be ridiculed.

>>97799748
>before that anons were praising his freehand work.
Hi, craftsperg. I still remember your futa bulges.

>>97799764
Not everyone is your boyfriend anon.

>>97799755
okay I get this.

But I'm painting a 3rd rank toy soldier for a game, and was just sharing how I was able to color match a color from some fan art. I didn't have an exhaustive list of colours.

I tried 8 other ways, trying to learn it myself first. i did the leg work. but in the end I asked the ai and got a colour that was much closer to my target colour than any of my 8 attempts.

I was excited and I shared my excitement.

I'm not looking for a perfect 1:1 match, I'm looking for something that satisfies me. Something that could help other people like me who are struggling to match a colour. maybe its not perfect but maybe it can get you closer to target.

>>97799754
I don't use ai to praise or validate me. while I am narcissistic, as a failing, I would not seek such shitty praise.

My intention with posting was to share a quick way that yielded better results than an hour of experimentation. It was not about how ai said my painting was great, It wasn't about how AI methods were superior, Just how it could be helpful.
and I get called a liar, and people dog pile on a poorly painted example about how its not TOP TIER PERFECT, all because what? I used Ai to help tell me to mix 4 parts pink to 1 part purple.

Holy fuck

>>97799755
>That color difference
Holy shit GW please try to at least be a little accurate with your color previews. It's not hard.

>>97799769
>brings up the sperg completely unprompted when it has no real relation to the ongoing argument
>while lying about what actually happened
damn I guess someone else getting a meltdown going for a change really triggered you

>>97798854
Wait wait wait, add black to desaturate, and THEN add white to make it brighter? I guess whatever reddit post the AI is misquoting forgot to mention that white also desaturates.
Absolute fucking fundamentals, and the AI can't even keep track of that.

>>97798967
>like i said, I'm retarded when it comes to colours.
Yeah, that's the thing, isn't? You're not actually using the AI to figure out how to mix the paints, you're using the AI to have paint mixes that someone else (or in this case something else) claims are good since you're simply too convinced that you can't do it yourself.

>>97799798
>I'm looking for something that satisfies me
Sure, but that's kinda different from claiming AI gave you a perfect solution, isn't it? Also, what other anon mentioned; it also gets the fundamentals wrong, which translates into you learning incorrect things from the get go.

>>97799802
All manufacturers are like this, some are even worse than GW (Vallejo, but even AK has some truly baffling ones). That's why virtually ALL online swatches are useless. And why AI approach will only ever produce subpar results at best.

>>97799811
But you're assuming things. I was convinced i could do it myself, I tried 8 times to get to the same color value using mixes, and even glazes and washes and was getting frustrated. I think the problem was I was using too much of the the wrong purple and blue.

I went to ai out of frustration and in 4 minutes was surprised at howmuch better it did than me.

I've mixed my own colours before and Even my main army while not painted well to a high standard that i would never enter into a painting competition, it used a custom green color that i mixed myself as well as a glaze.

I was just having trouble with this particular shade of pink because i'm not used to painting pink.

But everyone assumes i'm using ai to praise me for my painting skills and to remove all critical thinking from painting a toy soldier, in such a high and mighty attitude its bordering on satirical.

>>97799842
I'll be honest, i didn't even read that part of the ai's response. I just went straight to see its first recommended color combo.

>>97799842
Why is it so difficult for manufacturers to have at least somewhat accurate online swatches? It's not like Stahly is some visionary. All he really did is take pictures of dried paint in neutral light. This can't be a difficult concept for a major manufacturer of paint to grasp.

>>97799805
You brought him up fuckwit

>>97799851
>didn't even read it
>posts it talking about perfect solution
And this is why you got a lot of (rightfully) mad (you)s.

>>97799866
I was just posting it as proof for being called a liar. and considering it was just a single coat on a poorly primed test model to be ridiculed to the tiniest detail for my use of hyperbole of its perfection is kinda extreme no?

>>97799743
I'm sorry your feelings were hurt.

>>97799854
Slight formula changes or changes of materials if there is a shortage (or to reduce costs), different sources of raw materials/suppliers, age of the paints, even different times of bottling (the paint on the top of the mixer could be slightly different than the bottom once it gets to bottling). Not to mention different monitors/phones/etc. showing slightly different shades or hues of the same color differently, even people's eyes seeing and processing colors differently. Lots of little things that can affect it.

>>97799854
it's another hobby tax. major paint manufacturers like sherwin williams and dupont do have paint chits and sample charts.

>>97799983
And if you're buying it in bulk to say paint a house they can mix the color in house for you to ensure that its uniform across the whole batch. Used to get that we'd order sail white for example for our interiors and it would be slightly different from house to house, a little more beige on one or lighter in another between batches.

>>97799980
even just switching to a new facility and just using different water can change how a formulation comes out.

I can't paint today.
The factory worker was sad on the day of bottling my white and the humidity increase from their slightly teary eyes is messing with how it's flowing off of the brush.

>>97799983
I am curious if there is any house paint with a medium that hasn't been cut with latex and polyurethane that will thin down to the right consistency. I don't know what kind of pigmentation is used for house paints at the hardware store however and I doubt it's quality stuff.

>>97800074
it'll probably be too grainy

>>97799176
God, I love her scornful expression

>>97799181
>Be talentless retard
>"Israelgpt, please do the thinking that I'm too lazy to do on my own"
>Think my life has been improved by the goyslop machine
>Get mad when other anons tell me I'm retarded
You really though you had something there, didn't ya?

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Slowly but surely getting there

>Hide one post
>70% of the posts disappear
oh boy

>>97799854
The finish on paints can also matter, matte paints can look pale but gloss paints are damn near impossible to pin down.
Transparency is another issue and one I don't think Stahly addresses well, some paints look totally different in masstone or undertone and painted on black or white.
>>97799748
>that anons were praising his freehand work.
Never happened.
>>97799798
This damage control is peak lolcow behavior.
You're anonymous. You made a bad take. Just log the fuck off. You can even delete your cookies if you don't want to see the (you)s.
You're not going to convince anyone that you were actually in the right, not because you're obviously wrong (that too though), but mainly because *we don't know who the fuck you are*.

>>97800490
>Never happened
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95036731/#95050886
You can look in that thread and the next for other examples too and then admit your error.