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Previous: >>97956138

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Did this happen?
https://files.catbox.moe/ika7gh.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44s
https://files.catbox.moe/t0zq17.jpg

>Why is mono green so boring?
https://files.catbox.moe/2x8qly.jpg

>Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
https://files.catbox.moe/8a43jw.jpg

TQ: What's your personal criteria for a card to be banworthy? What about being a GC?
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>>97961166
Completely based. I love bracket 1-2 "just fucking around" stuff. Absolute SOUL of the format
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>What's your personal criteria for a card to be banworthy?
this isn't my criteria, but wotc's

***will remain banned***

all the ante cards

dexterity cards:
Chaos Orb
Falling Star

reserved list cards: *wotc gains nothing from releasing them as they can't be used to sell future sets*
Ancestral Recall
Black Lotus
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Fastbond
Library of Alexandria
Recurring Nightmare
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Tolarian Academy
Time Vault
Time Walk
Yawgmoth's Bargain

blue doesn't need any more busted cards:
Flash
Tinker
Hullbreacher

"denial" cards:
Balance
Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
Karakas
Leovold, Emissary of Trest
Limited Resources
Upheaval

design mistakes/durdling time wasters:
Channel
Nadu, Winged Wisdom
Trade Secrets
Shahrazad
Paradox Engine

everything else is fair game to become GCs and (You) cannot refute this
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>inserted my gay furry advertisement again xDDDDD
Fake thread, will not use.
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>>97961223
But you've used the thread every time you said this. You're using it right now to signal your outrage.
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>>97961211
>ancestral recall
>mox
>time walk
>tolarian academy
Yeah I can't imagine a set that reprints these selling well
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>>97961248
>magic 30th
correct
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ban sol ring
ban rhystic study
ban tutors
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>>97961182
>TQ:
no criteria its vibes based
release primetime and zesty, ban cradle and keep time walk banned, some other bullshit idk
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>>97961182
>TQ
If it is an automatic inclusion regardless of deck type there's a decent chance it should be banned.
It obviously should go without saying that basic lands are exempt from this.
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>>97961211
>Tolarian Academy
T-take that back!! I have one and I wanna use it!
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>>97961211
Okay but what separates Limited Resources from Impending Disaster? Upheaval from Armageddon? How many busted cards is too many for blue? Why settle on Hullbreacher over Notion Thief or WARset? Why does Trade Secrets get special treatment as a design mistake over any number of other cards that let players completely remove agency from half the table? Why not ban ABU duals since those are also sought-after cards that would go in every deck despite supposedly being unavailable for reprint?
Your philosophy here seems to only go one way assuming the existing banlist totally aligns with your categories with no other cards that fit into them.
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>>97961280
>who made these banning decisions anyway that gavin seems to just be going along?!
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>>97961211
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU MARK TEDIN SIGNED SOL RING!
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>>97961289
Sheldon was a hack that refused to face reality starting in 2011. We already know.
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>>97961223
>>97961247
Most obvious furfag samefag ever.
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>>97961275
Bet you own a Tinker too you fucking artifactfag. Post tits or shut up.
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>>97961182
>TQ
Current banlist with the following cards added:
>Sand Squid
>Brutal Hordechief
>Master of Waves
>Crocodile of the Crossing
>Fry
>Gimli, Counter of Kills
>Etherium Pteramander
>Frenzy Sliver
>Greener Pastures
>Obelisk of Undoing
No further changes, no questions. Get that ass banned.
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What do you do when the RNG just decides to fick you raw?
>have 38 lands in a deck
>get a hand with 2 lands, and 6 draws later still no lands
>have a deck that relies on casting instants and sorceries, and said deck has 40 of them
>get none of them in hand
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>>97961389
You just get fucked.
Nothing else to it.
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>>97961332
I do and I'd also like to use that, but I can understand why these cards got the boot. Personally, in a world with Consultation, Thoracle, Kinnan, Thras/Tymna, etc. I don't really think Tolarian Academy or Tinker are going to be the lynch pin that ruin the game.
>post tits
I don't know how often I can do this without getting in trouble lmao but here's some honkers
>>97961365
>Etherium Pteramander
How'd you fucking know I was just looking at this card for Golbez?
>>97961389
I keep doing playtests with my Knights and it sometimes seems like I just can't catch a break when it comes to making all of my colors, and I don't wanna just remove all of the basics for various expensive duals.
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>>9796138
I bitch and moan for a while then shuffle up and play again
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>>97961443
Nice
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>>97961182
yeah i play counterfeit duals
yeah i pass them off as real for street cred
so what?
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>there are now two useless, worthless aisloppers and one of them trips
fuck off
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>>97961476
Filter the tripfag, that's what trips are for.
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>>97961389
You will ALWAYS have bad games. There is no deck out there that will have good games 100% of the time. Just accept it and move on
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>>97961501
Rog'si never has bad games. Or something retarded.
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>>97961501
>He doesn't stack his deck and plays at a LGS where people don't cut each other's deck
ngmi
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I want a winter orb deck. Katara and waterbending seems fun
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>>97961548
Is there a "spells you cast have waterbending" commander? cuz that'd make it work very well
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>>97961577
Nah, sadly waterbending was the worst mechanic of the set https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3Awaterbend+t%3Alegendary+t%3Acreature
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>>97961590
>and the card types include “legendary” and the card types include “creature”
Fwiw you can just do is:commander for cards that can be your commander
>waterbending was the worst mechanic of the set
Awful. As a water-powers enjoyer this is sad to see.
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>>97961389
Just enjoy the ride. Sometimes you just get absolutely butt fucked and there's nothing you can do. Consequence of the land system.
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>>97961600
Unfortunately Gavin and co are artifactfags and they've decided blue will be the artifact color.
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>>97961476
>triggered
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>>97961548
Wow this card is bad.

>Doesn't even give them trample.
>Can only activate as a sorcery.
>Only until the end of turn.
>5 mana.
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>>97961693
>being a dogfucker apologist.
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>>97961735
If you're actually spending that much mana on this then you're retarded. If you're evaluating ANY waterbending cost with its mana cost, then you're retarded.
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>>97961735
Not every card needs to (or should be) good enough for optimized EDH. Run the bant ally tribal Katara or the experience one if you really want to play the character.
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>>97961548
Speaking of Winter Orb, I forgot that I wanted to make a Hylda deck. Is she still viable these days?
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>>97961476
I'm just trying to have good time. Sorry if it doesn't butter your bread.
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>>97961820
If i had to pick, I'd pick Swordfag's because his at least has style and doesn't look like SD images from 2019.
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>>97961838
He's been working with AI much longer. Its understandable.
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>>97961840
Are you new? I thought you were the other guy who was using extremely unfinished style gens almost 2 years ago. Guess I mixed you up.
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>>97961845
>2 years ago
Narp.
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>>97961846
Got it. My bad. I recommend looking into artist LoRAs or styletags so you don't have the more generic look.
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>playing pic rel
>cast hit the motherlode
>into insurrection
>mana geyser, mana flare
>storm kings thunder
>overload fangs of kahdaiskfj (with doubling season, hardened scales)
>all creatures have +100 counters each minimum
>cant swing at azorious player
>end turn
>radiate backlash
>the blueplayer seethes because I have 3 different cant be countered effects
>tap all of my creatures for mana :)
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>>97961771
This seems really fucking strong why have I never seen it?
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>>97961893
Because its a jumpstart only and it was greatly over shadowed by Toph.
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>>97961893
I pulled this card randomly the other day. never even knew it existed.
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>>97961459
ye, though i normally save ULTRA BOOBA for /vg/posting

on topic, though, I'm currently looking at a batch of cards I have and if any of them might have a place in my Golbez deck.
>Consuming Aberration
>Etherium Pteramander
>Gifts Ungiven
>Torment of Hailfire
>Grinding Station
>Fell the Profane
>Slaughter Pact
>Palantir of Orthanc
>Reshape
>Shambling Suit
>The Mechanist, Aerial Artisan (doesn't feel avatar, so it's acceptable)
>Barrowgoyf
https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection
I made a maybeboard with them here. It's less about wanting to rework Golbez and maybe tweak him. Here's a Chandra for reading my ramblings
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>>97961820
>>97961921
I said fuck off.
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>>97961927
didn't ask lmao
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>>97961904
Ah jumpstart, I always miss this shit and there's always tons of random bangers hiding in the jumpstart sets.
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>TQ
I see it as going beyond staple to being necessary on a competitive level. There's 13000 cards, I would love to see that list expanded and would not lose any sleep if Sol Ring got banned.
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>sixteen experience counter cards
How many more does Wizards need to give us before a WUBRG deck is viable?
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Nigga that’s nuts
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>>97961820
Why does it look like both of her arms are too short?
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Is this deck fun?
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>>97962099
Thalidomide
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Does anyone think petrified hamlet could be good? It does shut off fetchlands and Three Tree city & rogues passage off so I think it could be a viable silver bullet card. I assume maybe in cEDH or modern it could have a home too? I pulled one at pre-release and it's been making me wonder if it's an auto add to all decks.
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>>97962158
It'd be a helluva lot better if you didn't have to choose *one* land out. It's pretty good as a "oh shit they have a utility land out, let me tutor it out" land though
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>>97962167
It does also shut off wasteland and strip mines so it could be somewhat viable as a protection piece if you wanna do land combos.
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>>97961921
Checked the list and assuming you're asking in good faith, here's my suggestions.
Cut Fell Gravship, Forget, Scour for Scrap, Desculpting Blast, Scrounge for Eternity and add Windfall, Ripples of Undeath, Cyc Rift, Shambling Suit, and Consuming Aberration.
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>>97962167
You're right though it would be better if it just shut off all utility lands. I think as is, it's just decent against tribal decks that use three tree city and voltron players that run rogues passage or as a protection piece against nonbasic land destruction lands. It's definitely feels like a silver bullet card that can fuck over 1 player in particular.
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if land destruction is so bad wrong why doesnt wotc simply print more indestructible lands or lands that do stuff in the graveyard?
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>>97962195
MLD is the only counter to turbo land ramp players and I'm tired of pretending that MLD is taboo.
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>>97962202
cedh is right there if you wanna play a format that can actually punish ramping
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>>97961182
>What's your personal criteria for a card to be banworthy? What about being a GC?
When there is virtually no reason to not run that card in 80%+ of decks. My immediate culprit is Roaming Throne.

I don't care about GCs because brackets are for queers.
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Voltron cucks and token artifact cucks KNEEL before her.
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>>97962240
what happens if I also have picrel on my board
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>>97962244
timestamp order applies. if titania's song lands during your turn, it overrides. after that, when it's not your turn, they're X/Xs and during your turn they're 4/4 indestructible haste that perform coastal piracy
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>opponent casts grand abolisher
>couple turns later
>taps out and casts persist combo
>I activate Otawara before resolution
>Opponent says I can't activate abilities
>mfw
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>>97962297
actually it's a dependency issue that ignores timestamps; your non-equipment artifacts don't get affected by song during your turn
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>>97962240
Thanks for casting half of my combo dweeb
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>>97962202
>MLD is the only counter to turbo land ramp players
Damn sure difficult to deal with Timmy's dinosaurs when you just sit there like a cucked ape and let him cast them. Counter the ramp too. Kill the landfall creatures. MLD is a band aid fix and you will still lose games to their resolved 7 drop vs your resolved 3 drop once you cast Armageddon.
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>>97962349
>bro just always play blue and always have at least 15 counters in your deck
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>>97962379
>I wanna beat ramp
>No! Not like that!
loool
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>>97962187
okay I appreciate the input, turns out I couldn't find my copy of Aberration or Suit, so I put in Filigree Attendant to function similarly. Got my Windfall, Cyc (how'd you know I had that?), and Ripples
cut Mist bridge for Urborg, Tezzeret for a different Tezzeret, and I'm throwing in my Rhystic Study
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Would you allow three copies of this in the deck as rule 0?
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>>97962454
Shit honestly? Yeah no hesitation. This ain't that game breaking and I love the flavor
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>>97962349
Going one for one by countering ramp is never worth it unless its a large jump like Splendid Reclamation

Unless you want to counter rampant growths and shit anyway just to spite play green players in which I say respect.
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>>97962454
As long as the whole deck is properly themed yes.
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>>97962240
YOU FOOL! YOU ABSOLUTE MORAN! YOU DID PRECISELY WHAT I WANTED YOU TO DO! YOU FELL VICTIM TO ONE OF THE CLASSIC BLUNDERS!
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>>97962454
Anyone who would not is a giga faggot
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So what's the actual way of making Sauron work well in bracket 3+?
Should i just build him as aristocrats?
Nazguls kinda suck.
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>>97962642
Just use all the same broken garbage everyone else crams into their deck. There's no such thing as building a deck in bracket 3+, all you're doing is cramming in staples. Commander barely even matters at that point.
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>>97962642
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>>97962803
Yes anon, some cards are better than others.

Do you also get mad when people pick high tier characters in fighting games?
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>>97962815
Anon asked how you make B3+ decks work well. I answered him. Sorry it hit too close to home for you.
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>>97962815
What kinda dipshit ass reply is this? Anon asked how to make a strong deck and he was given the one appropriate answer: use strong cards. It's 100% true at b4-5 the commander means very little anymore, it's all the staples you use in your colors and who can draw/tutor them out first. Every deck at that point doesn't even cast their commander unless it's something like Rog to use the "if you control your commander this spell is free" cards
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wen marvel spoilers
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>>97962140
For you? Yeah, it can be fun. Flickerin', removin', life losin', card drawin'. For your opponents? Very rarely. Ketramose is a very powerful commander and the deck quickly tends towards being so removal heavy nothing sticks to the board as long as he's there, and he's difficult to remove because of the indestructability and relatively low mana cost.
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>>97962906
>Release date: June 26
About a month or so before this, give or take
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>>97962882
>Every deck at that point doesn't even cast their commander unless it's something like Rog to use the "if you control your commander this spell is free" cards
dunning kruger at its finest
I, too, don't ever cast commanders such as
>tymna
>sisay
>kinnan
>ral
>etali
>magda
>vivi
>lumra
>tivit
>yuriko
>tayam
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>caught a guy in the pod drawing a card and playing a land before the person before them has ended their turn
>they asked why it matters if I'm just going to draw a card and play a land when it is my turn anyways
How do you even respond to this behavior? Also caught them peeking at the top card of their library a few times and they kept taking back spells they casted when they didn't work the way they thought. Shitty player or a cheater?
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>>97962940
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>>97962954
Cheater 100%, there's no argument otherwise. I would've left the table on the spot, no way am I finishing a game with that happening
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>>97962959
It was a casual game with friends, though I have never played Magic with this friend before.
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Thoughts on my mono B commander (my wife)?
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>>97962982
She cute and I like the ability. I hope you have fun, anon
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>>97962982
Repeatable removal in the command zone I sleep
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>>97963023
Yeah for a whole 8 mana minimum. Fuck modern card design
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>>97961182
>What about being a GC?
mana positive activation, warps the game around being around but there is enough leeway for counterplay
>banworthy
warps the environment that people change colors, even if they're suboptimal for their desired strategy, just to have access to the card
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>>97963045
>warps the environment that people change colors, even if they're suboptimal for their desired strategy, just to have access to the card
I hate how many people at my LGS won't even look at commanders unless they have blue/white so they can tutor out Rhystic Study/Smothering Tithe ASAP. Shit like that should never have been printed imo
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>>97962210
CEDH doesn't care about land ramping since games end on turn 1 or 2
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>>97962982
How do you build her?
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>>97962232
yeah, ban Swords to Plowshares
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>>97963045
The problem is that you're not limited on the number of colors you can run, so as long as every color has at least one good card in it, 5c will always be more desirable.
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>>97962202
Bro your graveyard hate? Your enchantment removal?
>N-No they're casting rampant growth spells every turn
Then it's not turbo ramp that's just a normal ramp package that goes at the same rate as universal ramp.
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>>97963130
that has long been the case since getting 5c online was piss easy even when not skewing hard into green and lands by large are untouchable since nothing stronger than karakas or tolarian came out
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Are blue decks ALWAYS oops all counterspells?
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>>97963151
No. You just see it that way.
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Lol?
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>>97963181
The funny thing is that both Atraxas are problems regularly subject to snowflake syndrome where the person running it insists they're unique and jank.
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>>97963181
Ixhel is cuter.
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>>97961265
yes including these tutors most of all
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>>97963151
what makes you think you get to play a card just because you "wish it to be". no you dont get to just play anything you shit out from your hand
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>>97963197
someone say something about Abraxas?
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How do I build her? Something like blood artist and a gorillion "lmao u die" -X/-X effects?
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>>97963308
>How do I build her?
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>>97963344
Explain. I was thinking of regular as the commander, and known killer in the 99 as a draw engine.
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>>97963181
Atraxa has fallen off so hard i genuinely sont see why people are so scared of her.

Although the true OG derangement syndrome commander is Golos lol, Golas is legitimately so mid, why did they ban him I dont understand, it kinda makes me want to tey to build and rule 0 him just to prove it.
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>>97963366
>golos
>mid
That nigga is one flicker source away from being unlimited cast works. All you need is displacer kitten, some cheap 1cmc spells to flicker him, and then you can go ape shit with free giant creatures.
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>>97963350
I was just kidding but it seems like you want effects similar to her and blood artist effects as well.
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>>97963366
Unconditional land tutors are already very strong, then combine it with at least three free stuffs a turn
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>>97963390
the lands come into play tapped, plus you can do that with a 2G wood elves lmao
>>97963405
Its not free it literally costs 2WUBRG

Ok so so far weve established that golos ban defenders are retarded and cant read, nice nice.
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>>97963366
Retarded never read field of the dead, i truly hate these newfags kys
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>>97963479
>7cmc for 3 free spells
Yes, because all 3 Eldrazi Titans for 7cmc is fair.
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>>97955788
I make it a point to not include any maximally pigmented or gay coded Vampires (Anje Falkenrath's butchdyke buzzcut) in my Mardu EDH
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>>97963366
They banned him mostly because he put the ultimate spotlight on goodstuff.dek by being a commander that genuinely was capable of being run for literally anything. As a result you had a billion people spouting cope about how their Golos deck was totally unique when it was WUBRG goodstuff and the only difference was whatever random bombs they planned to flip with him.

He's basically the perfect embodiment of how the average Commander player has no innovative drive or self-control. He wasn't banned for being too strong. He was banned for being too generic.
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>>97961927
faggot mad
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>>97963366
Golos (and a few other cards on the banlist) were banned because they made the format worse just by existing not because they were too powerful. (Iona is too but good luck explaining that to people who only care about power level.)
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>>97963631
UNBAN MY SPAGHETTI MOMMY ALREADY I NEED HER FOR MY "OOPS ALL TITANS" ELDRAZI DECK
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Mono-W hatebears or should I try for other colors? I wanna make a mono color deck for every color but I'm not sure if hatebears has enough sauce and gas with just white.
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Universes Beyond is a midwit filter.

>low IQ people
"wow this franchise is so deep and emotional. Star Trek and Marvel are epic. I love it" *buys a precon*

>medium IQ people
"Wtf um ugh this is so cringe. I only want something I can take seriously, man, I'm so above playing cards about superheroes and cartoons. My superior intelligence is too high for such tripe." *goes and watches any edh youtuber videos and thinks they're high quality analysis*

>high IQ people
"Bahahaha, this is so ridiculously insane! It's a big budget well-crafted fever dream, truly one of a kind! I love it. Yeah! I'll tap my 'Guy in the Chair' to cast my commander: 'Spongebob Squarepants' *drafts Vintage Cube in his free time afterwards*
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>>97963687
I just like what some of the cards do
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>>97963687
Thank you for your blog post.
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>>97963687
UB is good when it's fantasy related like LOTR and (some of) FF. UB is bad when it's shit like marvel or tmnt.
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>>97963731
Or even avatar, I'm not a big fan of the franchise, but the different bending go week with the colors of magic.

But yeah marvel suck as ub
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>yfw a troon walks into the LGS
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If my deck has Temporal Trespass and Temporal Mastery in the same deck, two self-exile time warps, does that make it a bracket 4 by default?
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>>97963687
Why is your high IQ person just a Redditor?
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>>97963864
No, as long as you don't do one extra turn, after extra turn. You're fine.
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>>97963868
redditors don't play, they just make up imaginary scenarios that "happened in their LGS" to farm karma
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>>97963542
Ok now its obvious youre trolling lmao
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You rub the lamp, and the /edhg/ Genie appears! He will grant you one of these /edhg/ powers.

>Samefag Vision
You can see ALL posts made by each poster in every thread forever.

>That Happened
If a poster is telling a story, you know for a fact if it happened or not. You also know the degree to which the person is fudging the story to make them look good.

>Namefag Nuke
The name option doesn't exist while posting on /edhg/, so no more tripfriends

>Autobaker
The moment an autosaged /edhg/ thread hits page 10, the new post is created.

>The Mystery Box
Revealed after 10 (you)s!
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>>97963928
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>>97963928
>Samefag vision
Already obvious enough.
>That Happened
See above
>Namefag Nuke
Does not stop people from avatarfagging or signing posts.
>Autobaker
Worse than useless because now it autobakes after someone manually made the thread.
>Mystery Box
The only logical choice.
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>>97963631
>>97963559
If you think that if golos was unbanned he would be played at anywhere near Ur-Dragon or Edgar Markov levels youre just straight gigacoping. Also, who the fuck cares if the average Golos deck would just be samey goodstuff, theres absolutely plenty generic goodstuff slop commanders in the game already and noone gives a fuck. Singling out a mid card like golos in that regard is just silly
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>>97963928
>>That Happened
so I know how much to gas up the OP and gaslight all doubters
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>>97963928
Well every good story is fudged at least a little bit. They need to be since its otherwise difficult to fully convey the full context and tone of a situation which can be fluid and nuanced.
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>>97963990
Nice job self-reporting that you started playing in 2025.
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>>97963151
All blue decks are played by gaylords
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>>97963779
>fantasy should be upheld all the time fuck weird settings
>precedent? What's that?
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>>97963849
>yew a guy walks in who hasn’t showered in a week

The trannys at my game stores almost never make trouble. The problem players are the ones that make me feel like I need a gas mask just to walk in.

There’s a specific store in my city that smells like a WW1 trench.
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>>97963990
You're right, he would be played more than Ur Dragon or Markov, just like he was back when he was legal, newfag-kun
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I wish someone would share some concept art from Duskmourn. I'm curious what development of the colors and tribes looked like, and how the internal discussions went.
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>>97964135
Because of how WotC commissions art, a lot of the stuff in Duskmourn release likely IS the concept art. Just repurposed into a new card.
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>>97963928
Mystery Box
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>>97963928
Samefag vision would be a great way to learn there's only a dozen people posting here, and half of them are shitposters. I'm going with the box.
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>>97964143
Still, I'd like to hear the AD or some of the artists harp on it for a bit. I'm curious about how they settled on stuff like all the survivors' clothes having chevrons on them, or how they came up with the nightmares' common visual identity of billowing smoke shaped like faces, and so on.
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>>97961300
It's true. He failed us all by allowing wotc to stick their filthy hands into the format. Commander 2011 was a mistake.
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>>97964071
At least use art from Duskmourn
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>>97964071
This has to be one of the worst fucking sets in MTG history
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>>97964233
Why are all the artifact creatures toys anyway? If inanimate objects spontaneously come alive just from being in the house then why aren't there like carnivorous bookshelves and shit? And why are there so many toys? There are more toys than there are horrors.
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>>97964235
I wouldn't go that far. There have been some real stinkers over the years.
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>>97964235
>homelands
>prophecy
>fallen empires has interesting flavor, but it fucking sucks
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>>97964192
he isn't responsible for wotc taking commander into their own hands. thats on the remaining RC being snowflakes who never learned the iron rule of the internet of the '00 years

>never ever use your real name on the internet
death threats are just banter since you've followed the above rule

the thing sheldon is responsible for is thinking signal bans work, making the average commandertard weak by avoiding bans for almost a decade and filling the RC with yes-men.
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>>97964135
>Duskmourn
DEI set that should best be forgotten
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>>97964291
The irony of sheldon thinking players could self-regulate while being a lvl5 judge - a job that regulates players - is not lost on me
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>>97964071
>45 Years from now.
>Anon has cancer, and is on his deathbed
>Loved ones are all around him, crying.
>His breath is labored
>His lungs rattle as he licks his lips taking in his last deep breath
>"F-Fuck. Transit. M-ag...."
>BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
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What the objective worst set in the last 6 years
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>>97964351
Spiderman.
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>>97964235
>>97964258
It's fine in terms of card quality. It's just your average milquetoast draft experience with vehicle having several effects of classic cards.
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>>97964351
March of the Machine: The Aftermath. A set so bad they redesigned sets which were already done to not repeat the same mistake. didnt work btw.
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>>97964369
Honestly I think it and EOE are kinda fun in the sense that they both feel very experimental.
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>>97964351
Spiderman by a wide margin.
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>>97964386
EOE is great and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
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>>97964353
>>97964388
What happened with the capeshit set?
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>>97964392
>spaceships and laser guns are fine in muh fantasy card game but a hot dog cart isnt
Make it make sense
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>>97964430
They are desperately defending the honor of UW
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>>97964386
Aetherdrift isn't experimental at all. As I said, ti's one of the most by the numbers set ever, but they just stapled the effects into vehicles. There must be like a handful of cards that actually do anything truly interesting or unique to their colors.
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>>97964392
Sure I think it's cool but I recognize it doesn't land in everyone's comfort zone.
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>>97964420
Every card in it other than the soulstone, which is just OKAY was a complete dud on top of the set being bloated with pointless legendaries no one asked for or would have missed.
The special mechanic of the set in not interesting in the least.
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>>97964235
>This has to be one of the worst fucking sets in MTG history
One of the worst...so far!
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>>97964454
Also, for fans, most of the uncommon and common cards were completely flavorless in terms of showcasing what the characters did or were. Basically they just made cool cards of like a dozen or so characters and relegated 80% to the other ones to generic boring value cards.
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>>97964454
>muh multiple versions of the MC!!!
Marvel will have a boatload of legendaries that are not expies of leonardo aang or parker but i'm sure fags will complain about it being UB again
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>>97964479
That's just proof of spiderman being a bankrupt IP wherein all it can do is rehash spiderman in different flavors because obv the business demands that the story never ends
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>>97964454
>Pajeeter Pooker
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>>97964510
I dunno necessarily about that, but making a whole set based only on spiderman characters and adding tons of spider people was bound to dilute the characters that had anything unique about them.
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>>97964529
>making a whole IP based only on spiderman characters and adding tons of spider people good
>but making a whole set based only on spiderman characters and adding tons of spider people bad
Spiderman the franchise has never been good because its purpose is not storytelling but profitability
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>>97964523
"That's why I do what I do. For my Izzat."
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The only good thing about Spiderman in the last 20 years is that Gwen Stacy from those animated films
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>>97964618
Bryce Dallas Howard was the GOAT
kys
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post decks
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>>97964809
All 100 Cards?
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>>97964343
o7
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>>97964837
What's your build with Marchesa?
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>>97964809
Current build, still might find a slot got Pteramander and some other stuff sometime
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>>97964847
Vampire Tribal
Almost exclusively use it to duel a friend's Tovolar Deck
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Mid-range value I guess?
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I did not enjoy any of the kamigawa sets
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Also, can we get more Boros Vampires pl0x?
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>>97964942
In which way? The mechanics, the flavor, power level? Also do you dislike Neon Dinasty for differetn reasons, since it's so different in terms of gameplay compared to the original sers?
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>>97964942
fool, that you are
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>>97964969
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>>97964969
I fucking love Madness
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>>97964942
It was/is popular to shit on original kamigawa despite it being kino. I dont think many liked technorape of kamigawa.

Now for a real hot take
>I think Ravnica was a mistake
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>>97964942
Believe it or not this was literally the only opinion people had on the set for almost 15 years, but slowly as the playerbase rotated you started getting an influx of people that weren't playing in 2005 combined with more modern cultural views, so they just see Thing, Japan and were consequently willing to play defense for the set despite it being a disaster at nearly every level.
As of today that has evolved from nuanced defense to full-on LARPing that it was a good set.
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>>97964956
>the flavor
old ones give off Avatar the last air bender type of fake asian vibe
neon feels more authentically asian but has the meme tier purple light futurism aesthetic
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>>97964993
As someone who played in the early 2000s, the only thing the set had going for it was great art and a few really cool concepts but 0 power or low mana to back them up. A real overcorrection from Mirrodin.
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>>97964288
fallen empires commander decks with army token mechanics would go hard
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>>97964990
The lands are so sexy though
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>>97964990
>I think Ravnica was a mistake
As in the design proclivities it led to are bad or did you just hate the original block?
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>Its like turn 10 and I Gitaxian Probe player A who is sitting to my right and see he has Rise of the Dark Realms and our graveyards have more than enough stuff for him to be able to win the game on the spot.
>I tell this to player B and player C and ask if they have anything to stop it, player B is orzhov and while me and player C are both blue, we both just had a counter war on player C's last turn so we both admit have nothing.
Alright, so we clearly can't do anything about it, I don't want to wait 20 minutes for a full turn 10 turn cycle and for his game winning spell to resolve with his 1000 triggers so I'm just gonna scoop here.
>"WTF BRO u cant scoop now, youre cant to concede as a weapon, if i have rise of the dark realms i would need your creatures in order to win"
Well I dont mean it like that, you clearly are going to win, I just want to get to the next ga-
>player B says I have no proof and could be lying about his card so we should play it out so they end up peer pressuring me into staying, player B even swings out at me on her turn for no reason because I tried to "salty scoop"
>Player A's turn goes exactly how I said it would go and he wins and so I wasted 30 minutes extra stuck in that game for nothing.
>Before player A and player B leave the store we find out they are girlfriend and boyfriend and were essentially going easy on eachother the whole time.
Say it with me:
NEVER. PLAY. WITH. COUPLES.

If I ever sit down at a table with a couple again im just leaving I dont give a fuck if they call me a weird incel, this shit has happened WAY too many times I just want to play commander not 2v1v1, thanks for coming to my ted talk
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>>97965001
I think Rats are neat
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>>97964993
I remember people used to bitch and moan about the names. "Everything is "Blank, the Blank"!" "Too many legendaries!" Etc.

Strange how every fucking block is kamigawa now in that regard
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>>97964969
>Mom I swear I can make it work
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>>97964969
As a zen practitioner, I want to do something with this card so bad.
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>>97965056
You know what you have to do
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>>97965056
Zen Buddhism is the only real pro action Buddhist schools, it's not to do with this nirvana chasing card
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>>97965077
How's an empty mind the same as Nirvana, you pseud?
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>>97965090
Post the Zen practice that promotes ego death, you can't
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>tribal
It's typal now. Get with the times or get left behind.
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>>97965112
>typal
It's Kindred now. Get with the times or get left behind.
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>>97964859
I don't really get why you don't just build RogSi at this point. You have almost everything you'd need to do it and probably have more fun than trying to make this overexpensive jankpile work.
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>>97965106
Well, the zen concept of nothing is more "no-thing", boundarylessness infinity, so we do try to become one with Mu (nothing)
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>>97965017
There was a couple at our LGS for the longest time, and while the girl was friendly albeit quiet the guy was thee most hated person in the store.

He was just an outspoken asshole about everything. He would shittalk every player and every deck. Call everyone pubstompers. Glaze his own brews. He got into an altercation with one of the nicest guys in the store and the store clerks had to involve themselves.

Now only the girl shows up so I think she might have finally left him.
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>>97965171
I genuinely don't know the first thing about RogSi but isn't it supposed to just be a pure high-speed rapid win combo deck and not really an artifact, or really any theme deck? Just ad naus/consultation/throacle etc? I've only seen it talked about like that but I've never seen what lists actually look like.
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When how and why did Wizards start catering to fags?
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>>97965235
lol newfag-kun
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>>97965235
Really ramped up during 2015/2016 of course
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>>97964993
I played magic back then but I was a little zygote. I thought the kami were cool as hell and hound of konda was BULLSHIT (this was my first experience with Savannah lion)
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>>97965212
Your theme is so diluted at this point that you might as just embrace pushing an archetype or strategy to its limits instead
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>>97965042
Actually sets these days has more legendaries than the entire kamigawa block
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>>97964859
What is this deck even supposed to do? How does this even win? Swinging with Broodstar??? Even if you make infinite mana with Urza, you don't have Thoracle to capitalize on it.
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>>97965235
Innistrad was the last chud set and the end of silver age magic
Plenty of current mtg shit can be traced back to RTR
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>>97965279
I think it's supposed to win off golbez triggers. You take the large */* guys out of your graveyard for big life loss.
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>>97964969
ITS ONE CARD AWAY FROM BEING META I PROMISE JUST ONE SET AWAY FROM BREAKING OUT ITS COMING NEXT SET FOR SURE
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>>97965235
you see anon, there's two political parties in the world: 4chan, and tumblr. 4chan wants things to look like anime, tumblr wants things to look like glee.
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>>97965300
That sounds fucking terrible???
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>Less than 2 dollars
Seem a little low for a tutor, but maybe 3 mana is "unplayable"
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>>97965300
>and yet death's shadow and co. arent even there
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>>97965354
This card is actual dogshit
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>>97965354
3 mana creature tutor is the baseline
It being a bad entomb/buried alive isnt enough
Also it being a creature is bad in green
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>>97965354
Sylvan, worldly, vampiric, and demonic tutor exist
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>>97965259
It definitely has some elements that aren't pushed as far as they could be, but I don't really think it's diluted by *that* much, you know? I do keep considering breaking it in half, one half a self-mill/mill deck headed by Syr Konrad and the other half the Mono-Blue Urza artifact deck, but it seems like a lot of work to do that even if then I'd have 2 high power, strong decks.
Golbez also meets my needs for an ETB effect, being low cost, and having a telegraphed but often explosive way to just win a game on the spot if I have a big enough body available in the grave.
>>97965279
My *main* wincon is as >>97965300 said, I want to mill/discard/surveil my way to a huge beater in my graveyard and then rip it out and drain the table. Apocalypse Demon is my general go-to on this, going so far as to respond to surveil triggers with Vampiric Tutor so I can just throw it away immediately, or sink my entire life total for Doom Whisperer to dig for it. I've had alt wincons like beating people to death with Phantom Train/Karnstructs, infinite mana milling everyone out with Cyber-Controller, drain with Tezzeret or Pactdoll Terror, etc. A lot of the other cards are in service of it, like using Chains to hate on strong draw but also as my own discard outlet when I have a draw engine active.
>>97965358
Death's Shadow and the other default big creatures like that feel like wasted slots since they don't really do anything outside of being dead. Filigree Attendant and Broodstar, actually present threat when on board (flying big attacker for cheap). If I'm getting the drain, I already have a minimum of 8 artifacts, chances are if my board exists in that state I'm already generating artifacts reliably so 13 is far from a decent number to me. I would use Phyrexian Dreadnought if I had one.
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Is this the best TCG in terms of playability and mechanical depth?
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>>97965259
>>97965171
Hey rogsi obsessed tranny, are you aware of the fact that some people wouldnt appreciate playing against proxied cedh slop decks in their casual pod. I think if they wanted to play cedh they would ask.

Although I guess it makes sense since you obviously never play your rogsi deck against actual cedh players because you get destroyed since youre actually a terrible pilot.
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>>97965414
Depends if you have a group of people you know who are willing to invest the same amount of time as you, or if you're going to be playing with randoms.
If the latter, no lmao.
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>>97965414
Dispite WOTCs best efforts, yes.
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>>97965423
>this entire retarded diatribe
I don't care for or about RogSi, but he clearly wants to make a cEDH deck and dump thousands of dollars of cards into it. RogSi covers his bases and functions without relying on gimmick shit.
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>>97965383
Also it *not* being a creature is bad in green
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>>97964859
>not cedh
>has shit like Urza, Chains, Rhystic, Mana Drain, Cyc Rift, FG, Moxes, Ancient Tomb, Gemstone Caverns, Saga, Otawara, BiS tutors, TOR, Monolith combos, KCI
You managed to build a deck that gets rolled by actual cedh and can't possibly be considered fair at a casual table. The Unplayable Deck - by Swordtardigger.
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>>97965423
>proxied cedh slop bad
>but some proxies good
>in fact all MY proxies are good and should be accepted by everyone
Absolute trannyism
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>>97965554
???????????
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How the f do I get this to work as a game plan? I will not take "It wont" for an answer
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>>97965562
Forgot pic
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>>97965562
I have no idea either
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>>97965557
>stop being a win-obsessed slopper and power down
>ok then in turn how about you stop being obsessed with cards you cant afford and just play with what you can get you shameless nigger
>???????
Typical tranny lmao
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>>97965562
I strongly don't recommend it because, as a win con, you're looking at exploding counters on the little bugger and ripping through cards in your hand to keep shit on the board (not the least of which, Descent into Madness itself) while you're playing against an empty board.

That's the theory, in practice, you'll catch literally every single fucking piece of removal you can think of and a few you won't as you're getting run off the board on a rail.
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>>97965566
You shit out more permanents than your opponents
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>>97965584
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Why can't we have an autistic ritual poster that just blurts all the pro proxy and anti proxy talking points at the start of every thread so we can get it out of the way?
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>>97965621
Yeah that's right you better run tranny
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>>97965622
Proxies are fine. Counterfeits are only for dishonest faggots.
There you go.
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>ur a tranny because u like thing I dont like
>oh yeah? well ur a tranny because u dont like thing I do like
Back in my day calling someone a tranny meant something.
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>>97965687
Yeah, a car's transmission to be more specific
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>>97965700
it meant that and also a homo in a dress, and everyone knew which one you meant desu
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>>97965363
>instant speed tutor
>dogshit
ok mr. bracket 5 no need to flex on us humble casuals
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Is he fun to play, it sounds really fun on paper, but I don't know if it will get boring fast being a deck that's 100% reliant on the commander
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>>97965601
very good points. something like peer into the abyss for endless cards to exile in hand?

what if i have paradox haze and shadow of the second sun for extra upkeeps as well? maybe overkill... maybe Im retarded as well. I am retarded
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>>97965720
what does the deck even do?
almost-kill yourself and then spend 7 to almost-kill someone else?
go -12 and give someone +12 life to draw? for 7?
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>>97965709
Yeah i meant a mentally ill person with an ax wound
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>>97965763
Flicker a bunch, draw cards and use big life gain bombs like sanguine bond, stuff like tree of perdition is also funny
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>>97963366
I am of the camp that banning Golos was stupid because he really isnt that strong.
But, I also never ran into many people spamming WUBRGgoodstuff.dek with him like so many others have so I guess I'm the minority.
To me there's barely any difference between him and Kenrith WUBRG goodstuff.
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>>97964343
Pretty optimistic to think Transit Mage will be the bottom of the barrel when we just had Dollar Store Hogwarts and The Nonbinary Order of the Faggot come out.
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>>97965853
Yes, and you will keep posting transit mage, that card, and any others until the day you die because, ironically, being outraged is your identity.
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>>97965861
>but enough about being so outraged about UB you have a dedicated anti-ub thread
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>>97964993
The art is cool, but yeah alot of the cards and mechanics are super parasitic and suck complete ass.
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>>97964454
What caste is Pajitr? Does he stop brahmin from beating untouchables?
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>>97965763
>phyrexian unlife/plat angel/you can't lose, get to 0 or less life
>el negativo hombre
>win

It's a lot of fuckery
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>>97965410
I genuinely think you'd be happier with Cyber-Controller in your CZ as an infinite mana outlet.
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>>97965235
2012
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>>97965861
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>>97965869
Records a video of himself getting bulldozed by the rhino
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>Buy a pack of new sleeves, 105 count.
>Take the sleeves off a deck and put the new ones on. 6 left, meaning 99 were used.
>Take damaged sleeves off another deck and resleeve it with the hand-me-downs
>One left over sleeve
>Count the cards
>99
>Count the first deck
>99
>Random extra sleeve that didn't come from or go to anything from either deck
WHAT VILE JEW SORCERY IS THIS!
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>>97964809
I'm surprised that it actually won a game last Saturday
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>>97965955
a gift from the sleeve-fairy, you ungrateful cunt
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>>97965894
If I was gonna change commander, I'd probably divide it in half to the two I want
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>>97965947
You just know that everytime Spider Man Indiasaar was fighting a villain dozens of jeets would be dying because they'd be all running out there to get izzat making tiktoks of them doing shit like trying to catch the Green Gandharva's pumpkin bombs.
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Gonna try partnerslop but only partners who had printings in FF last year, what's a pair that isn't inherently OP? I was thinking Ishai/Tymna
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I refuse to play with tryhard fags who abuse partner commanders
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>>97964809
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>>97966040
>Konrad isn't getting Gemstone Caverns
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How was the duskmorne esper precon unmodified? I knowthat valg was by-and-large finished but haven't heard much about miracle worker beyond like having in-universe print of some dnd-related card
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>>97966141
His landbase is already fine
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>>97966142
she cute
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>>97966152
>30+ Ice Age snow swamps
Holy sovl..
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>>97966111
Giga based
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>>97966152
are you going to run any of the stuff that cares about snow? withering wisps as a second copy of pestilence? dead of winter? scrying sheets?
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Which plane has your favorite faeries?
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>>97964351
Duskmourn, eoe and aetherdrift. All tied for worst
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>>97966249
DSK had rooms and I like rooms so fuck you I guess we're enemies now
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>>97966249
>eoe
no legendaries spam, maybe bit slow limited, it's biggest sin was enabling startrek but likely it's the other way around
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>>97966247
I prefer creature type fae. Such a needed distinction
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>>97964351
Magic 30th and Spiderman. Any other answer is just wrong.
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>>97966249
Fuck you, EoE was great.
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>>97966306
It also had jellyfish. I like jellyfish.
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>>97966325
There is absolutely no need for there to exist a fae tribe distinct from the preexisting faerie tribe.
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>>97965075
>madness cost equals to casting cost
Why? For timing restrictions? It doesn't even seem like a card I want to flash out.
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>>97966385
The discard effect becomes free.
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>>97966378
I know. I was joking. MTG is just retarded is all
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>>97966385
so that you can cast it if you discard it
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>>97966176
Sovl...
>>97966224
I intend to see if my LGS has a Scrying Sheets, Withering Wisps, Gangrenous Zombies, and maybe even Drift of the Dead as a funny blocker. Dead of Winter and Blood on the Snow could be fun as well
>nuke all creatures
>it's 6 mana so I can revive Konrad
I have no idea what I'm doing lmao
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>Rachel Weeks (she wrote how the brackets work, the vibe for each bracket) likes to to think of herself as a generally intelligent person and said that she loves being the the smartest mtg player at the table, showing how much she knows about the lore, rules etc
>Recently she mentioned how she didn't get which pest is which, this is too complicated WOTC, HEEELP!
>co-host had to remind her that there are something like 8 different dragon tokens out there
Oh boy. Dumbest people alive working on commander at the moment
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>>97966456
>taking a woman seriously
NGMI
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>>97966435
>beat to shit old Leaden Myr
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>>97966496
She wrote how the brackets work. Sit down, be humble
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>>97966497
He should make a pristine proxy. You're right.
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>>97966509
>She wrote how the brackets work
Proof next thread?
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>>97966456
I get it, Pest is a very specific token that have only worked one way before. Dragons are pretty generic, and very frequently different. It's like if they brought back Lander tokens, called them Lander tokens, but they put the land in your hand for lesser cost. Little more confusing than dragon token #200
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>>97962210
cedh is not a real commander format its blackjack with fantasy cards

you may be thinking of hi power bracket 4, otherwise called s-cdr (strategic commander)
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>>97966608
That's the same as complaining about some 4/4 flying angel tokens having vigilance too and is just as retarded
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>>97963118
Swords to plowshares cannot go into almost every deck because it is white.
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>>97964351
March of the Machines aftermath and it isn't close.
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>>97965894
Man, I wish Cyber controller actually worked as a commander.
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>>97964809
I have to take new pictures of my other decks. They've been changed a good deal.
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>>97966152
Did you move to Australia?
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>>97962882
thats not true at all. bracket 4 is the highest power commander games where the commander matters (called strategic commander). b5/cedh your post is right about. its not commander. but you are wrong about b4.

hope this helps
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>>97966705
But my red commander turns on my cradle free spells and mox amber while my other simic commander is an infinite mana outlet wdym they dont matter wtf
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>noooo bracket 2 can't beat bracket 4!
I literally watched that fucking elemental precon deck win against a brackets 4 and 3 decks. Shit was straight out of the box and sleeved in front of me.
>noooo those players decks just suck
Almost like there is a wide amount of power level in each bracket.
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>>97966732
I mean that's the real problem isn't it?
>Yes a good bracket 2 can beat a bad bracket 4
Okay but what if the bracket 4 isn't bad? Then can a "perfect" bracket 2 win? Almost certainly not.
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>>97966456
I unironically empathize with this issue.
Dragons should be 5/5 fliers and nothing else.
The only 1/1 no text should be white Soldiers, with no additional variants of "Soldiers" existing
Tokens should be standardized but WotC is content just burying them.
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>>97966743
>but what if the player is a lot better
HOLY SHIT THE BETTER PLAYER WINS
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>>97966759
I did not say the bracket 4 deck was perfect. I merely said it wasn't bad.
Perfect B2 loses comically hard to a B4 not made by a drooling retard.
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>>97966766
>the player piloting is irrelevant. Only the beck build
Nogaems
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>>97966435
I don't know how much I like gangrenous zombies. I get the synergy, but I'm not sure if it's enough since IIRC you said you're targeting high power. however, if you like it, I am personally fond of plague spitter.
drift is right out. honestly it might do better in golbez as a big power target to yank out of the gy.
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>>97966217
no. bad.
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>>97964969
I don't get why people act like there aren't a plethora of ways to use this thing.
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>>97966783
Okay the players are equal skill now but the b4 player for 15 attoseconds less sleep so he'll play Underground Sea instead of Polluted Delta on his first turn and aside from that will play at the exact same skill level as the B2 player.
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>putting together list for Konrad
>feeling good about it
>lay it out
>7 creatures
Oh. Oh no.
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>>97966802
Typical swordfag deckbuilding moment
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>>97966824
Yeah i have no idea why I didn't think of it. I have 31 slots left, what do you think of Bitterblossom or Black Market Connections in this type of deck?
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Why do hybridfags keep refusing to admit that destroying artifacts is a pie break for white?
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how many good draw engines do you need to have in your deck to include a reliquere tower?

thinking about putting it into my rakdos deck but the only uber draw engine besides the standard draw 2 spells is vilis broker of blood
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(you)
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>>97966882
It's extraordinarily rare the card you actually need is Reliquary Tower, and not more playables. Small 1-2 mana cards that you can drop at any time to round out your curve.
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>>97966882
None. Some times you want it anyway.
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>>97966790
They're from an era of magic where individual cards were pieces of a puzzle instead of being the engine and payoff plus built in protection all on one card
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>>97966882
It's one of the biggest noob trap lands there is. Unless you're drawing like 5+ cards every turn, you don't need it.
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>>97966872
Whatever you say dumb-dumb.
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>>97966883
(me)
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>>97966928
>Alpha card
I guess blue gets burn damage too!
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>>97966850
>should I pick generic staple A or generic staple B
I think you should put a staple gun to your temple and pull the trigger
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>>97966940
>Started in Alpha
>Has been going since
>Color break.
Nah, You just dumb as hell.
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>>97966949
Where does it say "artifact" on these cards?
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>>97966882
If you can't pick up a fifth of your deck in one turn you might as well just put a basic land in its place
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>>97966942
lmao, i'm also gonna put in Abyssal Harvester so I can steal shit people mill
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I had an idea for a new mechanic: imagine a card that can go into either a white or black deck
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>>97966983
Hybrid is AND not OR and it will always be there just like Sheldon intended! Things don't change, and that's GOOD!
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>>97966983
That kind of mechanic would be Extortion from WotC trying to abuse the playerbase by printing generic staples and pie breaks that go in any white or black deck.
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>>97966983
Reminder this is literally why Extort's cost is locked to {W/B} in reminder text instead of being a dynamic part of the keyword.
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>>97966963
>exorcise
>revoke existence
>purge
>fragmentize
>ray of distortion
>topple the statue
>sanctify
>seal of cleansing
if you think it's a pie break, they've certainly been consistently breaking it every set at common for while now
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>>97966646
It is literally not the same, as I have just articulated

Consider Eldrazi Drones vs Eldrazi Scions. When they changed how the tokens worked they changed the name. A tacit admission that changing a core part of a once-used token is more than just Angel vs Angel.

I still have no issue with the Pests, I just can see where she's coming from.
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>>97966963
Is this one of those "pretend to be profoundly retarded at the end of a thread to accelerate to the next one" moments?
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>>97967017
bad example, I think. Drones and Scions "work" the same way, they're just 0/1s versus 1/1s.
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>>97967042
Breaking news: Anon is fucking retarded. More at 11
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>the entirety of Duskmourn is literally a house
>there is only a single Wall in the whole set
>it's a reprint and doesn't interact with any set mechanics
Seems like an omission for the set that introduced Rooms and Eerie to not have a literal piece of a room with Eerie on it.
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>>97967044
And that point of power is an important enough distinction to warrant a different name. Another similarity to Pests is that it's a once-used specific creature token that was brought back with a change, and for Eldrazi that change was great enough to warrant a new name.
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Token creatures should be standardized. It's ridiculous that there's 1/1 white soldier tokens and 1/1 white HUMAN soldier tokens 4/4 red flying dragon tokens, 5/5 red flying dragon tokens, 6/6 red flying dragon tokens, ect
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>>97967076
>this is your brain on edhonly
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>>97967070
They had to cram more faggy looking they/ thems and the Scooby doo gang into the set
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Correct. Tokens should be standardized. Creature types should be minimized to maybe 8.
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>>97967075
>p/t differences need to have different names
>but a whole ass limited keyword? Nah doesnt count
Imagine batting for a middle aged libtard woman
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>>97967076
This is the most retarded take I've seen here in a while, it's not too late to delete your posts before someone screenshots.
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>>97967081
>He said after throwing a tantrum when viashino were eratta'd to lizards or the phyrexian type introduction
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>>97967088
No. I like Goblins, and Goblin Rogues, and Goblins but BR.
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>Fighter
>Rogue
>Wizard
>Cleric
>Hero
>Villain
that's about all the creature types you need
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>>97967091
>Uh oh some fag is going to take a screenshot of you!!
Okay?
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>>97967088
We yugioh now
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>>97966983
Your genius idea is a colorless card?
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>>97967137
No it's a card that's white (or black) and can be played in a deck that's white or black and the mana symbols on it change to either white or black.
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>>97967144
The average player can't accept that level of complexity.
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>>97967111
Yeah if you're stupid enough to share you're stupid enough to be proud I guess.
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>>97967144
You're just asking for the hybrid change
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>>97967153
The average player can't figure out what's going to happen when they cast an 8-mana bomb while a blue player has 4 mana open and 18 cards in their hand.
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>>97967144
That's pointless without some additional specific color matters reason for it being like that. The only reason it would work like that is to circumvent the color identity rule. Might as well just do the hybrid change at that point.
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>>97967164
>Might as well just do the hybrid change at that point.
Yes.
There's no reason not do other than "muh sheldon!"
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>>97967159
>YOURE STUPID YOURE STUPID
Blow it out your ass gay boi
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>>97967171
Sheldon would have wanted my to inform Little Timmy playing his favorite 2c commander that he deserves to lose as my Ezio Auditore hits the field and thanks to his WUBRG ability that does nothing I can play Rhystic against him.
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>>97967171
Ok just lead with that next time instead of pitching a nonsense mechanic.
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>>97967171
Nothing is stopping you from making your own format that allows you to do that
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>>97967188
I really don't need to. Wizards will force it on the community at some point anyway.
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>>97967195
They're highly unlikely to rock the boat after the mass ape out over mana crypt and dockside
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>>97967195
Yeah and they'll unban Prime Time too!
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>>97967144
Oldschool white black cards had a different type of aura that hasn't been matched to this day.
>pic related
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>>97967219
True that
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>>97966072
assblasted
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Update, I have a list and I placed an order for the remaining cards. I talked myself into, for now, using a Knight subtheme for fun
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>>97967219
We still get a little glimmer of it here and there
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>>97966072
BOO
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>>97967291
>glimmer
I HATE GLIMMERS
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Bob 0
Legendary Creature - Human Citizen
Before the game, choose a color. Bob is that color.
Partner
0/1
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>>97966332
Edge of eternity was very lame and ghey
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>>97967276
>knight subtheme
you typalfags really can't help yourselves
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>>97966497
>Beat to shit cardboard
Sovl
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>>97967308
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>>97967070
I'm surprised it didn't have minotaurs. The plane is like a big maze. Everyone knows minotaurs thrive in mazes.
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>>97967332
Would it really have killed them to make it a 3/3 for 3? That's still borderline useless as a commander
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>>97967322
>typalfags
>typal
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Become A Legend 2
Legendary Enchantment - Background
Before the game choose a color it's that color
Commanders you own have ward 2
A mono colored creature that isn't legendary can be your other commander.
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>>97967322
>typalfags
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>>97967364
The time has come, and so have I
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>>97967322
>typalfags
Terrible bait, apply yourself.
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>>97967322
I'd rather be in gay baby bracket 2 forever than to ever use the turn "typal" unironically. Now face the wall.
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>>97967110
You forgot Monk.
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>>97967535
A big problem with D&D is treating monk as anything other than a fighter subclass actually you could make a monk subclass of fighter, wizard, cleric, and rogue each focusing on a different aspect and have an all-monk party
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>>97967666
>>97967666
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>>97966385
see: >>97966432
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>>97966872
lolwut?
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>>97967144
kys

That's not how Hybrid Mana works



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