Blackest of treacheries edition.prev :200431713
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>>200434102fucking newfag why would you make a thread if you don't know how to make one
>>200434112redpill me on PEAKE
Any webm requests?
>Daeron/Otto kino confirmed
>>200434160every single Aegon scene is great so any of those would be awesome
>>200434156>getting away with it: THE HOUSE
My sad wife
>>200434172Is ottoman going back to kl before they take it?
>>200434102Tbh I don't know if I can keep going bros, aegon's actor can only carry this show so much, if they make daeron shit I think I'm just gonna drop it.
>>200434182Pick the best moment
Friendly Reminder that not even the greens think they have a legitimate claim to the throne
>The Bitch Queen of Bastards>The Smug Cunt of Dragonstone>Pretender to the Throne>Kinslayer>Defiler of the Innocent>Rhaenyra the Cruel>Rhaenyra the Monstrous
>>200434167>women will sploosh and cum their panties to thiswhat the FUCK is wrong with femoids
>>200434160that slowmotion shot with Haelena wearing the veil looking up
>>200434214Condal said that he's not a rider yet because Tessarion is too smallI don't know what to think bros
>>200434102I'D LIKE TO MAKE A TOAST
why did they make aemond's whore so ugly wtf
>>200434102Reminder the hull boys were supposed to look like this.
>>200434222I don't think this line implies that desu
>>200434253>Tessarion's nickname being the blue queen and fighting Vermithor and Seasmoke was green propagandaBravo Condal.
>Daeron confirmedDAERON BROS WE EATING GOOD TONIGHT
>>200434253Then why even have him in the show at all the fuck? Oh my God this shit is so fucking ridiculous. What's next? Rhae rhae teaches him that his brothers are actually bad on top of him being gay and cole's bastard?
Rhaenyra is so cute.
>>200434102Though All Men Do Despise Us
>>200434275it's about the emotional connection.
>>200434324She was way too cute this week.
Is there any rumors about Daeron's casting?
>>200434222I know the showrunners never believed in the justifications of the greens but it's a bit funny to see them so rapidly trying to get their "SEE??? THE GREENS ARE IN THE WRONG!!!!" payoff just 2 episodes after Aegon got crowned, it's too soon.
>>200434222The claim comes from the penis, not from viserys willViserys was in denial about his bastard nephews among other things
>>200434363*they
>>200434222Friendly reminder that this show is shitty rhae rhae fanfiction but too scared to just get rid of the main plot.
>>200434303Well you're pretty much the only one then
>>200434275inclusion and shiet
>>200434365>bro they are casting henry chungus caville as cregan and the olsen bitch as someone!rumors are a meme
>>200434321there seems to be a timeskip in s2 or between s2 and s3 since rhaenyra's aegon and viserys are too small now for the battle of the gulletso presumably daeron will be older and a dragonrider by the time bitterbridge happens
We were robbed
>>200434324too bad shes a non-binary retard in real life
>>200434297>there is a place in Westeros called "Hull" BRAVO GRRM
>>200434324God I hate that stupid whore
>>200434231
>>200434222Otto never cared about what Viserys said, remember when Alicent brought it up and he was planning the coup way before that.
>>200434383Who cares what king thinks. There are succession laws for a reason
>>200434365There's a rumor going around: Elliot (Luke's actor) is coming back to play Daeron
>>200434405Maybe Daeron will ride her for the first time in the Honeywine?
>>200434463I can't wait to watch her jump out a fucking windowI'll be there to catch her
>>200434160Arryk falling on his sword please
>>200434476>There are succession laws There aren't actually.
>>200434463thanks anon. I love her so much bros
>>200434378still makes me laff
>>200434412I don't get why the ratcatcher hanging was meant to be so bad. I mean yeah it's obvious a cruel thing but it isn't surprising considering what happened and reading social media would make you think it was Maegor tier. And noble houses aren't going to run to Rhaenyra's support because they heard the king got angry after his son's murder.Ironically the dragonpit stuff from s1 had a 10x bigger bodycount.
>>200434324She is but she's a bad ruler and worse yet the actor can't even play the character because rhae rhae needs to be a mary sue
>>200434476>There are succession lawsin gurm's works, there isn't
>>200434231also this shot, genius.
>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS>STANNINSSTANNIS
>>200434530>>200434505So why is it that eldest son inherits the throne? Pure coincidence?
>>200434562
>>200434102how's absolutely no one questioning this african man ruling as king during the apex of medieval europe? it's like seeing a peasant driving a Lamborghini, what mental gymnastics do you have to do not to break your immersion?
Criston Cole is a little bitch
>>200434572tradition and precedent is not law hence why naming heirs can be a thing
>>200434483Wrong he's gonna play Shepherd the dragon slayer
>>200434590asking questions is for chuds
>>200434513a lot of languages don't use many gender-neutral pronouns so an ESL not understanding how to use them doesn't mean they agree with you politically.
>>200434609and a fugly slut
>>200434324I'm so glad they thinwashed her, I just wished we had more scenes with Rhaenyra and Helaena together (preferably kissing and/or light petting).
>>200434378RHAENYRA was cute this week and SHE identifies as a womanan actor is not their character chud
>>200434626Was that a thing before and after Viserys at least once?
>>200434655
>>200434562>>200434587Kinslayer >Kinslayer Kinslayer >Kinslayer Kinslayer >Kinslayer Kinslayer >Kinslayer
>>200434590dragons weren't a thing in medieval europe either bro
>>200434590Retarded showrunners and American audiences.
>>200434542They look bored, kek
>>200434590Also Adam and Alan don't have White hair. They just look like typical summer Islanders. That they're supposed to be "the blood of Old Valyria" is just ridiculous. In the book they have the Typical pale, white hair, unique colored eyes look. When literally anyone can be "Valyrian", Valyrian ceases to become a useful descriptor.
>>200434684https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo
Helaena saying “why” made me sad bros :(
>>200434684
>>200434590Diversity quota MUST be fulfilled anon. By any means necessary.
>>200434188Helaena deserves better
>>200434102Bring a Kingmaker Chad is endless suffering.
>>200434676Maegor naming Aerea (heh)Some argued the sword thing was Aegon IV naming Daemon Blackfyre as heir but that wasn't explicitly an heir naming.
cast him
They are so perfect
That episode had all the makings of a great one but for some reason it left me dissatisfied and down on the show. Can't explain why yet. Maybe the character dynamics handled poorly or taken into bad directions? Acting was great but I'm suck of Olivia Cooke making the same face nonstop.
>>200434758We win bros
pick your king bros
>>200434772so did Aera become the queen?If king named his favorite horse an heir would it also become a king?
>>200434156Peake is the real hero of the dance. He’s the bane of turncloaks everywhere. Owain Bourney, Hugh hammer, Ulf White,Lord Rowan and the heretical Lyseni, all traitors he’s bravely sent to hell.
>>200434797She has a vagina, ovaries, womb, and breasts and she is dating a man.
>Daeron chilling in oldtown while his family destroys itselfKek
Why's Moondancer so small?
>>200434772So you’re telling me every single time a king chose his heir outside of the traditional succession order it’s led to disaster and the deaths of millions? And people still think a king should be allowed to do that?
>>200434810>falseborn>chad
>>200434810maegor easily
>>200434590Because most GOT fans are shitlibs who aren't allowed to complain about obvious lore breaking and laughably out of place casting. And why were they cast in the first place? because HBO is run by a jew.
>>200434222the point of this scene is that Otto has just realized he's actually LESS powerful than he was when Viserys was king and that it's never going to change because Aegon is unmanageable. it's all his frustrations and his cynicism coming out.
>>200434848in the books its even smaller, cant even fly yet
>>200434810>targtranniesRobert. Fucking. Baratheon
>>200434848hes like 15 years old
>>200434855Jaehaerys fucked up by not marrying Rhaenys to Viserys. He was too busy trying to marry his daughters off to fat old Manderlys.
i love my mommy rhaenyra
>>200434810>eats, drinks and fucks to an early grave>legitimize 200 bastards son>refuses to elaboratehow can someone be so based
>>200434848they honestly fucked up dragonsizes so muchthe only ones that makes sense are caraxes and vhagarmelys, meraxes, sunfyre etc should all be way bigger. some of these dragons are barely bigger than arrax that was a tiny dragon
>>200434520because it was stupid and useless, they had at least two witnesses who could have identified the guilty rat catcher, including healena. it was a pant on head retarded move
>>200434848Fish diet.
>>200434810>the most pious king>looks like JesusBravo George
>>200434810OUTTA MY WAY BLACKFYRE FUCKING SHITS, MAEKY MAEK IS HERE TO BREAK
>>200434855keeping power in a line of succession was only the standard because it was the least bad option in most countries, not because it was good. instead of civil wars every 2-3 decades it takes the royal family fucking up badly for one to happen.
>>200434820No because there was a civil war and Maegor lost and died. If he hadn't she would have.
>>200434885>who aren't allowed to complain about obvious lore breaking and laughably out of place casting.I know this is hard to imagine, but we literally don't care about seeing black people on TV as long as there is some in-universe justification.
>>200434810
>>200435009This man is half black according to you
>>200434855No, the first one was Maegor already being a usurper, the heir thing had nothing to do with it. The second was NOT an heir naming, literally the argument against it was that it was not an heir naming not that kings shouldn't be allowed to name an heir.
>>200434903fucking kek
>>200434992Well yeah if he won the war i.e. killed his brother then the only viable heir would be his daughter as he didn't have any sons
>>200434222Nice get, but I took it to be Otto secretly mocking Aegon 2 because he knows he's the one who made Aegon 2 king, not Viserys.
>>200434810MAEGOR THE KIND, UNFAIRLY SLANDERED BY MAESTER SHITS
Does someone have the webm of Helaena saying “mummy” during the funeral
>Same ending Episode 3 should atlest end with Cole inside Helaena
Criston Cole is literally me
>>200434810Daemon Blackfyre is the true King of Westeros
>>200434156>Name is Unwin>Unwins Tumbleton with a 3v1 Dragon advantage
>>200434102I was ok with the velaryons being black because it made the blood clearer (if that makes sense)But they're putting negroes everywhere, they even put a random indian in the cast...And suddenly I'm taken out of the fiction world and reaalise I'm watching a tv series
>>200434952Public group punishments have a purpose of keeping everyone else in line, they're not just for weeding out the guilty individual.
>>200435090Both Otto and Daemon are right about Aegon and Rhaenyra, respectively. Neither of them are suited to rule. One is dumb and impulsive, the other is dumb and weak. Daemon taking jabs at Rhaenyra for her "wisdom" may make roasties mad but he's completely right. She has done nothing her entire life but shit out kids. She has no relevant experience.
>>200434160I'm looking for the webm of a girl that ripps off her dress to reveal her huge titsdo you have it?
>>200435223Those two guys are Corlys' bastards so it makes sense if you accept the stupid premise.
>>200434572>eldest son inherits the throne?Viserys clearly chose Rhaenyra to succeed and no one brought up the law. there is no Targaryen succession law as far as we know.Lords want to push their succession practices on the Targaryens, sure. things went: the Conquerer > Aenys > Maegor > Jaehaerys > Viserys Aenys and Maegor were brothers and ruled together until Aenys died then Maegor took over and put down the already active rebellions (including Aenys' eldest son later on) then someone suicided Maegor so we got Jaehaerys (Aenys sole living son pushed by powerful lords mainly the Baratheons) and he argued a bunch with his elder sister Rhaena who was called the queen in the west but couldn't do shit because Jaehaerys had his sisterwife's Alyssane dragon so they could double team her any time.then Jaehaerys' eldest son died and he passed over his granddaughter from his eldest son Rhaenys (HotD Rhaenys wife to Corlys) in favor of his own second son and his sisterwife got angry at him for passing over the daughter of his eldest son then his second son died and he called a great council and they voted for Viserys.now, Viserys choosing his daughter to succeed is no different from Jaehaerys passing over his granddaughter.
>>200434810>Good king>Bad king>Bad king>Good king>Bad king>Bad king>Bad king>Bad king>Bad king>Good king>Bad king>Good king>Good king>Good king>Bad king>Bad king>bad king17 kangs6 good, 11 bad.Targs are bad rulers, it seems.(Yes, Daeron I was a bad king, he was only good at warfare, like Robert)(Yes, Egg was also a bad king, fucker ruined everything by burning himself and his family)
Not a bookfag so maybe that's why this doesn't make as much sense as it otherwise would, but the plotline of the two black brothers is really weird. They haven't really done anything apart from walk up and down the docks and make small talk. I assume it's going somewhere, but it feels weird and out of place.
was i supposed to come away with that Daemon/Rhaenyra scene feeling like Daemon is wrong? because he's right. she was only named heir to keep Daemon away and because Viserys was a feckless weakling who thought doting over Rhaenyra would make up for killing Aemmathe show's bizarre insistence on "actually the women and wise counselors who try to stop the war are all correct" is really silly considering that they're proven wrong at every turn, the war is actually developing exactly how Aegon/Aemond and Daemon are expecting
Is anyone here familiar with picrel? I want to read up on the behind-the-scenes gossip
>>200434102I was a fookin legend
>>200435286they will reveal that they are Corlys bastards
>>200434188Helena is slowly growing on me
>>200435286They’re Corlys bastards. One of them wants to do everything to help Rhaenyra and Corlys and Rhaenyra becomes paranoid about bastards betraying her and he dies helping her. The other one doesn’t do much except cheat on Baela.
>>200434952Aegon wasn't satisfied with just having beaten one guy to death, so his solution was to kill more people. he's crying at the end because that didn't work either.
>>200434810After Aegon none came close
>>200435267Which episode does she do this?
>>200435286It's going somewhere, same with the blacksmith guy. The two guys are Corlys' bastards and one of them gets Seasmoke, Laenor's dragon. The blacksmith also gets recruited to ride a dragon
did they really need to show the dead baby with its head stitched back on?
>>200434960BRAVO GURRM AMAZING
>>200435325Daemon didn’t have to be a roid raging man child his whole life, that’s on him that viserys didn’t want him around, no one else
>>200435335Him and Beesbury are the stupidest morons in this show below Criston. >why yes this walking disgusting corpse was perfectly fine, i can’t believe he died. Must be murder.
Anyone else gets physically repulsed when there are niggers on the screen? This is the first show where it truly bothers me.
>>200435335>>200434167I swear, he's turning into Gordon Ramsay
>>200435325The writers want us to root for Rhaenyra but they forgot to give her any qualities or experience that would make her a good ruler. That's not the say that Aegon is any better but the writers clearly don't want us to think he's a good reagent.
>>200435242his gay little fight with rhanerya is true, twittertrannies will seethe but daemon is completely right. He might have been a dick about it, but he was mostly right about viserys as well. it's annoying because it seems like rhanerya doesn't actually want to do anything war-related, but she talks the talk. daemon understands war, he's a veteran and he takes action. When he ordered the death of aemond but was honestly fine with anyone as long as it was a son, that was a fucking fantastic decision desu. Not only did he isolate rhanerya for it completely, but he's escalated the situation so the war can properly get going, which rhanerya was holding out for. It was so retarded to have rhanerya on her "revenge" arc after luke is killed but not actually wanting to do ANYTHING that could grant her revenge.all around just shitty writing and this show is not better than GOT S7, we're not at S8 levels yet and probably won't reach it, but certainly not better.
>>200435286Surely the one nigger staring longingly at Seasmoke fly by wasn't subtle enough for you to miss it?
>>200435403Honestly just skip the black scenes, it makes the world more immersive and you don’t miss anything really
>>200434924Name a king who left the realms in a more interesting state? protip you can't
>>200435009there is literally no in universe justification for Corlys to be black according to the lore, Valyrians are hyper ethno centric and don't intermix because it dilutes their dragon riding blood. There is literally no reason for Targs to be practicing incest in the show if they are just going to dilute their genes by breeding with Niggers.
>>200435009>as long as there is some in-universe justification.please provide it.and tell me Velaryons were always black because Aegon the Conquerer's mother was a Velaryon and Aenys' wife was also a Velaryon.
Erryk and Arryk was kino
>>200435481Aenys
>>200435369i thought dragons couldn't bond to anyone else if their rider was still alive?
>>200435282there's a reason why everyone in Europe wanted to elect legislative assemblies of landowners.
Are they gonna introduce Mushroom by season 3?
>>200435508Heh…anus
Rhaenyra is so traumatised that she immediately said no. She doesn't want to lose another son...
>>200435508>Anus
>>200435276>now, Viserys choosing his daughter to succeed is no different from Jaehaerys passing over his granddaughter.I'd argue the Jaehaerys situation was way more ambiguous than Viserys'. Daemon was his obvious hier until Aegon II was born.
>>200435481>>200435508Viserys IAerys IIRobert I
>>200435498Why must GRRM name twins like this? Its already hard enough to follow names in this universe as is
>>200435508HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>200435518Yes but either the show will ignore that or Laenor will have died offscreen somewhere.
>>200434590I genuinely have no issue with the Valeryons being black, it's an easy visual shorthand to distinguish between the two houses and makes the bastard situation even more blatantly obvious. It's a fantasy show in a different world, there's no reason to shoehorn real racial dynamics into a world that doesn't have any of that history or context. I think it's actually one of the least offensive "diversity" inclusions in modern media, they're just normal people with darker skin and not mary sue sassy black woman stereotypes owning the raciss crackas. If you're genuinely upset by that you should probably admit that just seeing black people makes you seethe regardless of context. Also Corlys is one of the best acted guys on the show desu
>>200435458One of those niggers get's one of the most bad ass moments in the show though.
>>200435481kek
>>200435531So they'll keep Corlys blaming her for Rhaenys's death?
>>200435558>>200435276Valyria was men-only and so was Westeros. it's only under the Rhoyna tradition where women can inherit.
>>200435576>Laenor will have died offscreen somewhereI mean they seem to love telling us about stuff instead of showing it but I doubt they will. They'll probably "forget" about that or involve him more in the show
>>200435449Rhaenyra and Rhaenys talking about war and peace is laughable. Rhaenyra has never lifted a sword. Rhaenyra has never had to kill anyone. She was cowering in a corner when Erryk and Arryk were dueling. The only characters who have any sort of experience making hard decisions of consequence are Daemon, Corlys, Mysaria, and Otto. Everyone else is LARPing, especially Rhaenyra and Aemond.
>>200435434Yeah the show's inability to depict any of Rhaenyra's political skills is baffling. At least with Aegon we got those episodes 1 scenes that show his instincts are in a good place but he's too unskilled and rash to rule on his own, but with Rhaenyra I genuinely have no idea what kind of monarch she'd be. For now her only defining trait is to not do what Daemon wants because DEMON MAN BAD.
>>200435641>they seem to love telling us about stuffnot really. the show is WAAAAAAAAY more show-don't-tell than e.g. The Acolyte.
>le targaryens can't have black hairmaking the velaryons black was honestly a big brain move
>>200435646Also Larys.
>>200434102Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't surveilling a city on dragonback a pretty bad idea? If you get close to see anything they can definitely see you. Are those scorpions shown last episode meant to foreshadow something?
>>200435612Ehhhhh. It’s like aemon the dragon knights death, you died protecting the monarch that wants you dead, yeah yeah how honorable. But like….isnt that just a little bit cucked though?
>>200435576>Laenor will have died offscreen somewhere.If this is the outcome, it just begs the question of 'FUCKING WHY THE FUCK DID HE NOT JUST DIE WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSED TO IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU FUCKS WHY THE FUCK ARE ULF AND HUGH FROM KINGS LANDING WHILE I'M FUCKING AT IT FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?'
Your favorite asian lesbian reactors just uploaded their reaction to the second episodehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaiy5dj-IiU
>>200435569>Why must GRRM name twins like this?Heh...>Aegon and Aemon Blackfyre >Aelor and Aelora Targaryen >Arryk and Erryk Cargyll>Jennelyn and Jeyne Fowler>Sarra and Serra Frey>Hobber and Horas Redwyne >Jaehaerys and Jaehaera Targaryen >Jeyne and Jon Waters>Erryk and Arryk (Olenna's bodyguards)
this guy might be a dumb ass but at least he is naiev and not that bad of a person all thing considered. He really felt bad when he turned down all those smallfolks.
>>200435531Seeing her be mindbroken by the death of nearly all her kids and a pointless war will be fun
>>200435691The only reactions I care about are Burlington Bar
>>200435672two things can be true at the same time
>>200435676Breakspear has brown hair right?
how long until cristin cole dies?
>>200435601There are real racial dynamics in the world you fucking idiot, Valyrians didn't intermix with plebs and the Targs mostly sustained practice, the only reason the Velaryons were allowed to intermix was because they were basically pure Valyrians
>>200435734not till s3
>>200435733>Depressed mope who does nothing
>>200435601The Targaryens and Velaryons are so interbred with each other that it's not clear where one family begins and the other ends. It makes very little sense.to make them so visually/racially distinct from one another. Blackwashing the Velaryons completely changes the Targaryen family tree.
>>200435746He was just like me
>>200435646Daemon is the biggest LARPer in the show anon. Otto himself realized this episode that he had it easy serving Viserys, and Corlys literally makes a sex joke about how he enjoys being told what to do.
>>200435531I need more Rhaenyra and Jace moments
I never understood when Targs are fireproof, how did Daeman's black wife die from dragon fire?
>>200435601Preston Jacobs nuthugger spotted
>>200435780Daemon and Corlys have actually been to war, unlike every other character in the show.
>>200435680>murders own father and brother>"wow he has so much experience making hard decisions" yeah because he chose to do something bad.
Unless Rook's Rest ends up being a 10/10 episode I predict this season will disappoint a lot of people. A lot of the "war" will just be the two sides sitting in their own corner clumsily sabotaging their own war effort through mishaps and unnecessary spats, and there will be only 8 episodes until we have to wait an eternity again.
Daeronbros why did they cut ourguy mention last season?
>>200435731Yes, so did Rhaenys actually so they could've just kept her with black hair and let the niggers be free to not have the shitty silver wigs.
what honestly is vhagars advantage other than being big as fuck?she's slow, easy to spot, doesn't take orders from aemond, has dementia, and jobs to long neck caraxes. She's also extremely useless unless she has many miles to manoeuvre with, she's honestly not an advantage. and just think about storage and food. She eats what, hundreds of sheep a day?
>>200435793They aren't, it's a one trick dany does and cannot repeat again, it's because that night magic was in the air but in the books she's never immune again
>>200435745unironically a relief. he's great for the show even if his actor is having to lean too hard into being impassive.
>>200435842>What advantage is there to being the most experienced, biggest and strongesthmm. Not sure
Viserysbros the PUTA has been cheating on us since forever
>>200435793Only the worthy targs survive fire, the rest are flammable
>>200435842she can burn the armies of the north and the vale
>>200435731yes, at least according to a quick google search
>>200435793they aren't Dany surviving the pyre in the books was a miracle that probably only happened due to blood magic of sacrificing her baby and witch to the fire.
>>200435676>Honestly the Targ blood(valeriyan)was Impure after jaehaerys,don't know why ppl even try to defend.
>>200435819The point is that he has the stomach to kill people. Meanwhile Rhaenyra is letting Mysaria go out of the kindness of her heart. The show will spin Rhaenyra's 'mercy' as an asset but that's not how things work IRL or in GRRM's universe. It's pure Condal fanfiction..l
>>200435901It was impure since Aegon the Conqueror actually. Aegon's mother was a Velaryon.
>>200435827Because Condal is a hack
>>200435842>what advantage do you even have being a flying nuke that can be used continuosly?>why does being a heavyweight in a ring full of mediums to featherweights even matter?Smartest /tv/ poster
>>200435937Velaryons are Valyrians
>>200434160Aegon destroying the legos
>>200435793they're not, it's just dany that was
>>200435901*After the conquest of DorneI don't know how anyone can call Dany, who is more Blackwood and Dornish a Valyrian when she's 2% at most.
>>200435937Also none of aegons kids are his because he’s infertile. Aerys was the seed of some singer and Maegor was born of dark magic
This show is made for retards
>>200434102Alright. I thought this episode was better than the first, HOWEVER!Criston Cole absolutely sucks. In the books, i recall he somewhat mentored Aegon and was the one who actually convinced him to become King. In the show, he does none of those things. Instead he sends one of the kingsguard on a suicide mission and becomes hand?Also, Ser Otto was being retarded by so angrily and emotionally shouting at Aegon. Like, WTF was he thinking by saying that Aegon is illegitimate as a King, that he's a useless little shit. Otto is supposed to be stern but reasonable, but then he goes into this career-ending rant because Aegon kills a few ratcatchers? He goes way too overboard and gets fired.
>>200434885Idk how you guys feel about it but I don't mind seeing black/brown people in fantasy, even faggots and trannies are okay AS LONG AS IT FITS THE WORLD BUILDING.ASOIAF has all of the above but they're not Starks, they're Summer Islanders and sex slaves in Qarth. HOTD could've had a whole multi season long subplot around Hugo Vance, Black Trombo and his Myrish sellswords and added in OC stuff like having them play a major role in the Daughter's War during the Regency seasons. They could've had more screen time for black and brown characters without raceswaps but the issue is the show runners are retards who don't actually understand their options. I'm pretty sure Ryan Condal would've done this if he actually considered it as an option but I guess he had no clue. Racallio Ryndoon is a 6ft 6 crossdresser with multi coloured hair who gets sexually arouses when he's hit by women. Peak degeneracy right there but nah, cut him out entirely.I'm extremely conservative but I don't mind a good story even when I disagree with the entire premise.Its like D&D cutting out every black character for dumb raceswaps but 100x worse.
>>200435957They aren't pure.
>>200435816having been to war doesn't mean you had to make hard decisions, or that you got better at doing so from the experience. Daemon's sole war experience ITT was failing to reconquer the Stepstones for years then only succeeding in killing the Crabfeeder by needlessly risking his life to avoid letting Viserys show up and do it for him. but I will be a loyal supporter of your future strongman military junta, please don't have me executed.
>>200435863>>200435885>>200435953and exactly what can she do that caraxes and meraxes can't?
>>200435875Anon, surviving horribly scarred is not the same as what danerys didI can also survive a fire horribly mutilated with a bit of luck, doesn't make me magical
>>200435937Her mother (Aegon's maternal grandmother) was Targaryen. They are basically the same family, with one side hoarding.all the dragons.
>>200435531My beautiful prince, I wish I could save him.
>>200435824Have you seen trailer for ep3? We are inbound for some war kino
>>200435971Yep
>>200435863law of diminishing returns
>>200435999Greenfags are coping but you are right. Vhagar is way too old to be truly fearsome. Aemond knows this.
>>200435947>sneaking in Rhaenyra
I'm starting to realize how stupidly retarded team green is
Damn there were like 7 pretty full threads not reading allat
>>200435842Being a dragon that you can't fight without sacrificing at least one of your own dragons.
>>200435969>Maegor was born of dark magiceverything i hear about this guy just makes him more based
>>200436024fucking hell
>>200435999She does it bigger, she survives hits better>MeraxesIs deadMeleys will get chomped by VagharCaraxes will manage to take down Vaghar but will die in the processWhat can a heavyweight boxer do that a lightweight can't?
>>200435793They aren't, in the books it's supposed to be a one-time thing. Also lots of Targs in the lore died by fire, and Jon burns his hand.
>>200436012Mayhaps. But after Valaena, the Velaryons started marrying Westerosi houses and lost their purities
>>200436052How is viserys not a moron, he literally caused all of this
>>200435995Doesn't matter. It's still more experience than Rhaenyra who has spent her whole life being waited on by servants and getting pregnant.
>>200436065He was a pretty edgy fella, very grim dark
>>200435601exquisite bait
>>200435558>I'd argue the Jaehaerys situation was way more ambiguous than Viserys'how so?both had females to inherit according to agnatic-cognatic primogeniture from ck2 rules and had "secondary" males available.>>200435639>Valyria was men-onlythis is pure speculation.>so was Westerosthis is outright wrong.Rohanne webber inherits her father's castle. Coldmoat.lady Whent held Harrenhall.now, if by was you actually meant the past, citation needed.the Rhoynar only affected Dorne because of that princess that marries into the Martells and their laws were adopted.
>>200436052Where is Jace, Luke and Joffrey?
>>200435601>dude it has dragons so race doesn't matterThe war in GOT started with Ned Stark noticing someone's true parentage simply because their physical appearance wasn't consistent with their supposed ancestors' appearance, because Joffrey had blonde hair instead of black and "the seed was strong." Appearance is extremely hereditary and indicative of a person's ancestry in ASOIAF. It's their closest thing to a DNA test result.Despite ASOIAF being fictional, appearance being indicative of someone's parentage is an undeniably important part of the setting. In fact when someone's appearance does not match their supposed parentage, it's often a plot point for the story. That's why if a man who looks visibly Dornish came to Winterfell and claimed he's actually a Stark, the characters would all laugh and point out his appearance proves him a liar.Targaryens and Velaryons have been inbreeding to "keep bloodlines pure" for generations. How on earth is one branch of the family unnaturally pale in HOTD while the other look like they're from the Summer Isles? They should all be mixed and look similar to each other. Old king Jaeharys was half-Velaryon, how come he is white as a sheet in the show and has no Velaryon features? How come the characters seem completely colorblind about Velaryons, but just taking a look at Criston's features is enough to convince Alicent he's Dornish? How come everyone notices Luke and Jace aren't Laenor's children because they look nothing like him, but nobody notices Daemon's daughters Baela and Rhaena look nothing like him?it breaks disbelief when we have Rhaenyra's kids flagged as bastards simply because they don't look similar enough to their father, and then we also have an entire bloodline that completely ignores any internal logic when it comes to matching their appearance with their ancestry.ASOIAF makes a huge deal out of appearance == ancestry, so colorblind casting is an awful idea for a story about bloodlines and ancestry.
>>200436024How does this even happen, is this an airport? Did a passanger bring a crab army in his backpack?
>>200436093the realm prospered under his watch
>>200436069you're comparing a 24 year old lightweight champion to an 80 year old heavyweight woman, i see plenty of things the 24 year old can do that the 80 year old can't
>>200435990I disagree with shoehorning black people into a story if there is no organic reason for them to be there, I thought GOT did a decent job with Salladhor Saan it was a race swap but the actor was good and there is no in universe reason why he had to be white considering he was a pirate in Essos. If they really wanted black characters make one of Corly's bastards mixed instead of making fucking Coryl's black
>>200436024those crabs are free for the taking?
>>200436126Jace is in my bed, Luke is dead and the toddler is at the kindergarten
>>200434520Because the writers needed something to use for the Otto/Aegon falling out and that is the best they could come up with.
>>200436138No thanks to viserys indecisive milquetoast ass. Thank Otto and Jaehaerys for that
>>200435872Calling it now, Daeron is going to be Cole's bastard, and they are giving Nettle's "non Valyrian dragon rider" subplot to him.
>>200436178nah
>>200436125>how so?Jaehaerys' eldest son died before he even assumed the throne so it's not clear whether it should go his kids or Jaehaerys' second oldest son.
>>200436131too be fair pretty much everyone had suspicions/knew that the lannister kids were bastards, the difference was that arryn and ned actually started speaking about this in public
>>200436157>i see plenty of things the 24 year old can doSuch as? Be slightly faster?Vaghar means the blacks can never sleep safely even with dragons mounting guard, his fire has more range, he can take down clastles faster and more brutally.A scorpion hit to caraxes neck is his death, with Vaghar I wouldn't say, meraxes died because it was in the eye.
>>200436016He's a pretty lad but it bothers me how much he reminds me of Daisy Ridley
>>200436200Viserys bottom 3 worst kings of a time maybe number 1>but muh wholesome legos!Very quirky anon, but irrelevant to his ruling ability
>>200436131The funniest scene of Hotd so far is in season 1 Alicent going "GODS HE'S DORNISH!" when she sees Cole for the first time. Meanwhile he basically looks just like her and she's sitting next to black people. I still laugh thinking about it.
>>200436016The bastard will die a PAINFUL death
>>200436231well yeah and don't forget that vhagar can barely even fly these days. don't forget that balerion got too big to fly and vhagar is probably very similar to balerions size at his peak due to her age at this point
>>200436268:(
>>200435872Alicent had a crush on Cole since episode 1 of season 1. But first Rhaenyra ruined him, and then Alicent had to marry Viserys.Cole and Alicent banging after Viserys death is literally tension that had built bewteen them for almost two decades, but it is pretty clear they had no outlet for it.
>>200436261
>>200436241He a Black Briton
>>200435558>Daemon was his obvious hier until Aegon II was born.I correct this. Before the Dance it was daughters over uncles so his heir was Rhaenyra until Aegon was born
Why hasn't the episode popped up on the usual sites yet?
>>200436176It was stupid as fuck. Otto has basically a complete meltdown (despite him being a calm guy) over a bunch of rat catchers being killed? It’s a stupid move by Aegon and I could definitely see Otto sternly calling it out, however he straight up calls the impulsive King a failure, idiotic and basically tells him he’s an illegitimate king and unworthy of the throne… over killing some rat catchers…. Eh?He keeps on going about this for a solid three minutes.And Aegon has very little reason to give Criston hand. In the books Criston was the one to convince him to be King. In the show he doesn’t do any of that, and instead comes up with a stupid plan to send a kings guard on a suicide mission… and then gets hand
>>200435744>>200435753perhaps there's more further back but the only Velaryons in that tree terminate with Daemon's two daughters who are depicted as lightskin quadroons in the show anyway? It makes perfect logical sense to me that a family focused on blood purity could stay black as hell up until they mixed with the Targs later on. It seems the only problem you have is the idea that an ancient Valyrian house could start out as black but really why the hell not? Who know what kind of place it was before the doom
Anyone else highly optimistic for Worldcon in August? If not Winds then what else will he be announcing. I think he's absolutely done with the book and had to re-write and edit several sections.
>>200436332don't fucking give me hopeI'll believe it when I see it
The most recent episode wasn't very gud. Otto is smarter than to put himself in the position he was did with the King.
>>200436330>Daemon's two daughters who are depicted as lightskin quadroons in the show anyway
>>200436332i don't get why people are still torturing themselves with the belief they're actually getting more GOT books, you're in an abusive relationship begging for scraps
>>200436332No one gives a shit about Winds because everyone knows we will never get Dream so FUCK ITfuck grrm
Cute and canon!
>>200436131yeah anyone defending it is a disingenuous fag, leftist or has no basic understanding the lore.
>>200436052literally all Targs in that image are fucking tards though
>>200436300young Alicent was a cutie
>>200436328I think you are supposed to interpret it as the last straw and Otto realizing he will never control Aegon like he was able to with Viserys and that he will always be an impulsive retard. But yeah its done very poorly and abruptly the dude has only been king for like a week and Otto just gives up and bitches him out for 5 minutes straight lmao. I think normies see Rhys doing some great acting and overlook how retarded the situation is.
>>200434160>Which one is Erryk?Still getting keks out of me, that and the an hero
Is no one going to mention that in this post-Weinstein world conditions, Cole has been raped by two different people?
>>200436330Because we know the Targaryens and a few other minor Valyrian houses in Westeros are purely White with blond hair and the Valyria was autistic about blood purity, there is no way they would intermix outside of having bastards and there is no way those bastards would get high places in court or even have the dragon riding gene. Stop making fucking excuses it makes no sense.
>>200436330Aegon I's mother was a Velaryon too. Its a retarded change that only makes sense if it starts exactly at Corlys and ends with Daemon's daughters. But it doesn't.
>>200435853>>200435875>>200435896>>200435960>>200436078What about the red hot 500C+ dagger that Viserys and Rhaenyra touch with their bare hands like it's nothing??? It's a pretty fucking clear indication that Targs have some fire resist in the HotD show at the very least
>>200436528not canon
>>200436526The Blackfyres are canonically black now
>>200436458its not rape if he clearly wants to do it
>>200434156His house used to be major players within the Reach, probably the foremost house of the Dornish Marches deeply tied to the Gardeners>they managed to get the Manderlys exiledNow they're hasbeens on the periphery of the political scene despite their lands and titles. This is really recent BTW, Unwin is probably old enough to have met someone who remembers life before the Tyrells took over and has a major chip on his shoulder. With Lord Tyrell dead, Highgarden is out of play for the next few decades, his rival Marcher Lord Donald Tarly is also dead leaving some young Lordling in his place that's rebelling against the crown with his buddies, the realm in disarray and the Hightowers desperate for partners, Unwin has a once in a lifetime opportunity to right the wrongs of the last century and bring his house back into the center of politics in the Reach. He wins the gamble. His eldest son died tragically whilst he was being raised by the Redwyns>another house that was recently cut off from political powerBut now his eldest living son is knighted alongside a Targaryen prince for valour in battle. Do you know how good that must've felt, especially after almost losing the battle?Then his son dies high off glory leaving him with only a daughter. No wonder he was off the rails after that but he managed to persevere and despite losing the war, end up as the fucking Hand of the King, one marriage pact away from being Otto 2.0 with only another child in his way. Well she mysteriously died and despite that awful tragedy, his daughter gets sidelined.I'd go apeshit too, and when the council called his bluff about resigning he masterminded a plot to wipe out the royal family and the other silver haired cunts who ruined his opportunity to secure the legacy of his house. It wasn't fully successful but he got his revenge for being sighted even if it was unjustified. I've wrote some stuff years ago about how he should be portrayed but it won't happen.
>>200436528more show bullshit
>>200436528i don't remember that scene
>>200436526Or in the show canon there is no Velaryon Targ mixing until Rhaenys.
>>200436304Is he though? This might explain the lips then.
I can't name one good thing that happened in this last episode
>>200436596except Laena said their bloodlines were joined in Old Valyria so they should have looked more similar
>>200436603long neck boi made a 5 second appearance
>>200436528I think Targs might has some very light genetic resistance to heat but nothing significant enough like how Dany is just straight up immune to the effects of fire.
>>200436203>Jaehaerys' eldest son died before he even assumed the throne so it's not clear whether it should go his kids or Jaehaerys' second oldest son.but in agnatic-cognatic primogeniture in ck2, the "calculation" counts the dead son as alive then when it is found that he is dead, it goes to his kids and "calculates" from there.and in ASOIAF, Stevron Frey dies and everyone thinks Ryman, his son, would inherit. Merrer Frey in his epilogue chapter thinks this specifically.
>>200436646Which could’ve been like 6 generations before Aegon
>>200434810I only fuck with Aegon III, Daeron I and Daemon Blackfyre (it was his fucking turn)
>>200436597I want to kiss him so bad
>>200436597It's the Bell Beaker phenotype. Olivia Cooke is the same type.
>>200436131only whites or nonwhites with 100+IQ consciously understand these things, most normies can't even fathom that ethnic homogenuityor ethnic heterogeneity impact their perception of fiction
>>200436596Or just accept its a stupid change that makes no sense
>>200436672Yeah and that’s why I dislike CK2 because the succession rules are fucked
>>200436579Huh so if he regrets what he's done he can't say afterwards that it was the power of the women and he didn't know how to say no?
ayyoooo dis bitcha ass nigga kick muh damn dog???ayyyooo PETA!!!!
>>200436280>can barely even fly these daysNo signs of it, Aemond flies twice and we see no sign of that
>>200436672>the "calculation" counts the dead son as alive then when it is found that he is dead, it goes to his kids and "calculates" from there.Does it? Is this mentioned in any official lore? I doubt any culture would have succession laws this detailed.
>>200436702>uhhh I’m going to ignore your explanation Yeah it was a stupid change
>>200436713but gurm seems to follow them
>>200436597looks like a bog but natural born
>>200436766
>>200436741you don't remember seeing her run a marathon to take off? and that was like 10 years ago
>>200436755That’s just the botched mechanics of CK2, if a Lord has two sons and the eldest has only daughters it still goes to those daughters
>>200436763a lot of successions in the book are unclear or disputed so clearly they don't have ironclad rules
>>200436603Goodshit:>Aegon destroying Viserys’ Lego set.>The whole funeral scene.>Daemon and Rhaenyra’s argument >Aegon crying at the endThe badshit>Otto giving up after only a week of Aegon’s reign over some fuckin ratcatchers>Criston being a dork and not earning his role as hand (in the books he actually convinces Aegon to become King.)>The whole fight with the Erryks. Two characters we don’t give a shit about.>Anything with the Velaryon’s>Anything with Mhysa
>>200436765achieveable natty???how can one be this strong???? a natural born BOGDANOFF???? IMPOSSIBLE!!
>>200435522>>200435827>>200435872Are these meant to be fan scripts or were these actual lines cut from the show?
>>200434722>>200434542>>200434463Lorewise, I feel like Helaena smells really bad. I don't know why, that's just the vibes she gives off: that she smells rancid and unwashed
>>200436763No he doesn’t
>>200436755>Is this mentioned in any official lore? Merret Frey epilogue chapter. ASoS.> When Ser Stevron had been heir, that was one thing. The old man had been grooming Stevron for sixty years, and had pounded it into his head that blood was blood. But Stevron had died whilst campaigning with the Young Wolf in the west—“of waiting, no doubt,” Lame Lothar had quipped when the raven brought them the news—and his sons and grandsons were a different sort of Frey. Stevron’s son Ser Ryman stood to inherit now; a thick-witted, stubborn, greedy man. And after Ryman came his own sons, Edwyn and Black Walder, who were even worse. “Fortunately,” Lame Lothar once said, “they hate each other even more than they hate us.”
>>200436597dick sucking lips
>>200434497I thought t was Erryk
>>200436785That's because she's meaty, like an airplane vs an helicopter
>>200436158>I disagree with shoehorning black people into a story if there is no organic reason for them to be thereBlack Trombo is there canonically. They play a minor role in the course of the war but Crossed Elms and potentially being the one who killed Daeron gives enough of a justification for a minor POV subplot revolving Hugo Vance and his sellswords from Myrr.Racallio Ryndoon couldn't eat up much screen time at all even during the Regency seasons if you wanted to. A lot of really memorable characters who appeared in multiple seasons barely had any screen time. They could've ticked their diversity quota by just sticking to the source material. >GOT did a decent job with Salladhor SaanFor showfags yes but he's from Lys, a lot of the early world building of the city was via him in ACOK. I think you'd be surprised by how many black characters George had in Westeros, all foreigners, but they were there but D&D straight up swapped them out for white OC characters like Ros or cut them out completely. >If they really wanted black characters make one of Corly's bastards mixed instead of making fucking Coryl's blackSure but there are already loads of black characters in the source material that are likeable and interesting. Sandoq the Shadow is the Mountain of that era but he plays the harp too and they could easily insert a sad back story if they wanted to, but he'll never be on the screen because they either don't know he exists or don't know they can actually include him in HOTD via the Regency seasons.
>>200436902heh, thanks
>>200436808>>200436873i posted the quote here >>200436879Stevron, the eldest, dies fighting for Robb and now his eldest son will inherit the twins.
>>200436330Because it is racism. Plain and simple. They replaced people of a skin color they did not like, with one they do. Going against the author and discriminating any light skinned person.It is disgusting, and you having no problem with this( and attacking anyone who disagrees) just shows how much of a bigot you really are.
>>200436158having him be black definitely makes the entire cuckoldry plot pretty fucking hilarious though, like it makes the Velaryon family look like absolute morons, to the point where they had to shoehorn a bizarre scene where Corlys talks about how he only cares about his family name and not his bloodline, because that's totally how a father would react to his son and heir to the throne being cuckolded.
>>200434590>during the apex of medieval europe?Because it isn't Europe, it's a Fantasy continent called Westeros, on a fantasy world called Planetos, not Earth.So stop trying to append European history and demographics to a fantasy setting. There's no reason that Black and White people couldn't both be born on the same continent.>b-but they'd all be race mixed and brown, which means the lore wouldn't be consistent Incorrect. Africa is a great example. Even in BC times, Northern Africa and Egypt were primarily white, while the rest of Africa was a majority black.I do agree that Corlys and his family shouldn't have been black washed. That was stupid, and it rapes the lore. But, the actual concept of black people in a fantasy setting? Even as rulers? That's not farfetched. The only egregious part is that Corlys descendents aren't black as well in A Game of Thrones, which therefore rapes the consistency that the show canon has between House of Dragons and A Game of Thrones
>>200436886but not for you to enjoy
>>200436757There are multiple explanations in the thread as to why it makes no sense, you’re the one in denial.
>>200436672>>200436879didn't you previously say Targaryens don't have any succession laws? How are Freys relevant here?
>>200434810Hnmzksjs
>>200436902Does stabbing yourself in the stomach really instantly kill you?
>>200434810Jdsud
>>200435958
>>200434160>Any webm requests?The twin brother somehow stabbing his twin through PLATE armor, please
>>200437193fuck no havent u seen those webm where those dudes who got cut in half by train and still alive?
>>200437222bruuuuuuuh what did the legos do to him?
>>200436820>>The whole fight with the Erryks. Two characters we don’t give a shit about. They missed an easy Chekov's gun insert. Have the two troll the newest Kingsguard, Lorent Marbrand, by getting him confused on which is which back before the war in season 1. Fun way of bringing them to life. I mentioned previously that we should've had a mini spotlight on the Kingsguard like in the books since the war tearing apart that sacred brotherhood, even twin brothers, on opposing sides is a nice little microcosm of the war's effect on the realm. It's not like the W5Ks, the Reach, Riverlands and Crownlands has massive infighting. Vassals fighting their vassals. >>200437193>1 Samuel 31:1-5, NKJVHe was pretty fucked up already but this can happen just not that instantly. He probably just passed out from the blood loss and pain but died minutes later.
lol this dude acts like a fucking rich frat boy from modern age, exact likes one
>>200437149i said here >>200435276>Viserys choosing his daughter to succeed is no different from Jaehaerys passing over his granddaughter.anon said they were different conditions because the eldest died before actually inheriting the throne so i had to bring up "standard" primogeniture in ASOIAF to show anon that the cases are equal.
>>200436443>>Which one is Erryk?>that and the an herosee>>200436902
>>200437345How do we know if those cases are equal if the "standard" primogeniture may not even apply to them?
Since House of the Dragons is an utter shitshow, can I get someone to recommend an actual well written Fantasy, Roman, Medieval show or movie to watch instead?I've already seen Game of Thrones, Spartacus, HBO's Rome, Borgia Faith and Fear, Kingdom of Heaven, Gladiator, Braveheart, Outlaw King, The Lion in Winter, The King (shit), and Vikings
>>200436131Good explanation but you waste your time. The people who defend the black velaryons don’t care about the lore and never will and no matter how much you explain on how it little sense it makes, they’ll just plug their ears and eyes.It’s not ignorance, it’s malice.
>>200437415>if the "standard" primogeniture may not even apply to themthen all is good and the king can choose whomever he likes.
>>200437416Literally nothing made post 2016 is going to be any good anon
>>200436872Alicent feels like she smeels, all those baths dont seem to wash he stench away
>>200437539Does she really think that slapping people will solve all of her problems?
>>200437541I meant it may not apply to them in a sense that if an heir dies before taking the throne it passes down to his bother and not his kids. Not that everything is allowed and everyone can chose an heir willy-nilly
>>200437193If you hit any of the rght spots you start to drop blood pressure immediately and then croak
>>200437233
>>200437518This. Even if they pull magical reaches out of their ass to explain away how it could make sense via some inconsistent technicality, it's an adhoc justification for raceswapping. They want black people in medieval English period dramas, they don't care about reality they want their representation and they don't give a shit about how dumb it is. I go with the "we could have diversity using XYZ without race swaps" irl and that tends to get them to accept it was unnecessary but they wouldn't ever make a stand against a race swap. They'll accept it because to them any representation is good. >>200437634Stabbing your thoracic aorta is probably the fastest way to bleed out from that sort of wound. I've only seen gore videos of people dying from neck wounds like that one vid of those Mauri guys that had a knife fight in some Aussie mall but even then he passed out before he actually died. So the scene makes sense, they just could've done it better with proper build up. No one really cares about the twins.
>>200437627i'm not sure i'm following.the precedent is a king choosing his heir and Viserys is doing the same.we don't know of any special rules for Valyrians/Targaryens so anons default to First Men/Andals succession of Westeros and apply them to Targaryens.are you arguing for a special Valyrian/Targareyn rule of a brother before daughters?
>>200435379Maegor looks like Bill Kazmaier
>>200437931yeah but why do you default to Andal succession to fill in the gaps of Targ succession if you said Targ rules are so unknown?
>>200437931>the precedent is a king choosing his heir and Viserys is doing the same.Also even accepting that Rhaenys should be a rightful heir after her father died it's still not very convincing argument. A king chose his heir willy-nilly once so the next king can also chose his heir willy-nilly and all the kings after them. Some rules are in order I think.
