Thread for the discussion of arthouse and classic cinema./film/ poll edition>/film/ chartshttps://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ>/film/ directors directoryhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qgdYsMPAaFWrAa_7EHLpXqpOHLaDLmytM9wJ5nhGtqs>/film/ literaturehttps://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlA>but anon, where do I find these films?https://rentry.org/filmlinkshttps://rentry.org/kinolinks>script to make 3x3 webmshttps://textdoc.co/D5QNYIX2avmsqi49Previous: >>201730494
I love Isabelle Adjani!
>>201763401/film/ sisters SO can relate teehee
>>201763401She's hot. I'm not into penis btw>>201763416Me too sister
Good, I missed you cheaters
All of the newer films I watch are from Europe (except the critically-acclaimed, award-bait ones) or Asia. Not trying to be a hipster or some shit, I'm just sick of being preached about politics and woke issues.Older movies are so much comfier, I'm always afraid that one day I will run out of stuff to watch. I like crime genre.
>>201763888Yeah, this is mostly me too. There's no reason to be a doomer, really.
>>201763888I want to see preachy shit to understand the preachers, specially in the case of feminist films. I wanna understand women.
>>201764429What’s there to understand?
>>201765977gay gimmick
>>201766061Their mindset and motivations. Why they are the way they are.
>>201766382Fuck's sake, stop posting this weiird image
>>201766382I want to know its votes
I’m 8 movies deep into Friedkin’s filmography and that motherfucker just didn’t miss holy shit.Sometimes I wonder why directors like Kurosawa, Scorsese, Polanski etc. are so regarded as the greatest ever. You watch one of their movies and you’re like, “huh, pretty good”, but you don’t know why they could be considered the greatest ever for it. And then you watch more and more of their films and you realise that pretty much all their movies are “huh, pretty good!” tier or above and then you begin to realise why they’re so well regarded.But William Friedkin’s peak has the highest concentration of “huh, this is the best thing i’ve ever seen in my life” tier movies, so even if he did eventually slip and make some slop (Bug is kino though so he found his way back in the end), he is truly one of the greatest filmmakers ever, and maybe the quintessential “New Hollywood” director.
>>201766595>William Friedkin’s peak has the highest concentration of “huh, this is the best thing i’ve ever seen in my life”Acquire better taste.
>>2017664911. Emoções Sexuais De Um Cavalo (1986)
>>201766702To Live and Die in L.A. is better than your favourite film.
>>201766595>I’m 8 movies deep into Friedkin’s filmography and that motherfucker just didn’t miss holy shit.Oh just you wait.
>>201766702>noooo you can't have different opinions to mine, that means you have le hecking bad taste>>201766836Kino
>>201766836Not even the best crime flick.>>201766936Exactly.
>>201766808Who knows, knows
>>201766996Name some films for anons to watch instead of yapping about the ones they bring up.
>>201766996>ExactlyNaturally you'd agree with a description of your mental illness, snowflake
>>201766836EVERYBODY WANG CHUNG 2 NITE
>>201763295Cheatanon, you need to make your announce for voters in every thread until the next Friday. Otherwise if you feel too lazy or demotivated, just give up.
>>201763888The only films from the 2010s and onwards that I watch are dumb Asian thrillers and horrors when I want to just turn my brain off, other new shit is simply not even worth anyone's attention, it feels like garbage to watch. Digital simply doesn't feel good
>>201766595Kurosawa and 60s-80s Polanski didn't miss as well, the fuck are you talking about. Most of their movies aren't>huh, pretty goodthey are>holy shit this is greatI don't understand how anyone could think otherwise
>>201766836>cameos in Thief>stars in Manhunter and TLADILA>gets offered Platoon, turns it down to make some made for tv baseball movie because he wanted to play ball for a few weeks instead of be miserable in the jungle>gets offered Ray Liotta’s role in Goodfellas, turns it down, again to do some made for tv shit>turned down Heat, wants to just do his stage stuff instead >signs onto CSI and gets paid 600,000 an episode (back when they did 20+ episode seasons of shows) and becomes one of the richest actors regardless of the opportunities he passed up>does his stage stuff that like 20 people end up seeing in peaceWilliam Petersen is the most based man alive and one of the few people on this earth that are truly free.
>>201767048If you're still a Friedkin there are too many films for you to watch, pointless.>>201767067Keep coping mutt.
>>201766836Never seen To Live and Die in LA but I know that actor from Manhunter. Looks badass
>>201767278You had to specify a timeframe for Polanski. His bad movies just don’t count then because you want to cut his career off at a certain point? Carnage and The Pianist are great, so it’s not like he became completely washed after the 80s. In his prime, Fearless Vampire Killers was mediocre, and What? is a mind-bogglingly bad film to be released between Macbeth and Chinatown.I would argue that most of Kurosawa’s 40s films are largely “pretty good” tier also, nowhere near the quality of his Rashomon—Red Beard run.
>>201767586You have to do that with Friedkin too lmao, he made fuckton of shitty films
>>201767586>In his prime, Fearless Vampire Killers was mediocre, and What? is a mind-bogglingly bad film to be released between Macbeth and Chinatown.Never understood the hate for those honestly. They are not the best shit ever but they are still good. Okay, at least Fearless Vampire Killers is. As for the timeframe, yeah, I meant those were his 'flawless' years. I honestly can't name a single director who never made a mediocre film
>>201767888I can: Laughton One masterpiece and that's it.
>>201767888I guess Ivan’s Childhood could be seen as mediocre compared to Tarkovsky’s later standards…
>>201767188Let's motivate him, sisters. I need that chart + its memes
>>201767888Polanski fan here, he was never that guy:>Fearless Vampire Killers>Ninth Gate>Venus in Fur4.5/10, 6/10 and 3/10 respectively. Dude just made a few brilliant films over many decades and some comfy shit (Ninth Gate type stuff) alongside many mid and even terrible films. Fearless Vampire Killers is terribly boring.
>>201768037I find it MUCH better than stuff like Solaris or The Sacrifice.
>>201767986Yeah, sucks what happened to him. Wish he made a couple more thrillers>>201768037I actually like Ivan's Childhood and Andrei Rublev the most
>>201766836This has to be the most overrated movie on /tv/
>>201768246Should I watch The Passion According to Andrei or Andrei Rublev? I’ve seen all his other Mosfilm flicks now but i’ve been agonising over which cut to watch of this one.
>>201768339that would be Collateral
>>201768346I've only ever seen The Passion According to Andrei (the version that's like 20 minutes longer), I'd watch that cut if I were you
>>201768225But Sharon Tate is cute though
>>201768616Yes, she is super hot. Still something that only trash connoiseurs would see willingly. We have a fetish for the past and past sex symbols, no need for a /film/ patrician to subject itself to this unholy movie
>>201768346Watch the shorter cut, the one approved by Tarkovsky
>>201768661>/film/ patricianFrom the same class of the flying elephants, kek
I know pic related has its fans but it's the real early Polanski stinker, not Fearless Vampire Killers
I think Come and See SUCKS!
>>201769026Yep, this is a tough one to like, quite morose and tentative. More important in launching his career than something to appreciate.
>>201769041Damn, what a sizzling hot take
>>201769026It has a good and accurate message: women are evil and will betray you with half a blink
>>201769154The guy who made Godzilla also directed a very cool body horror film called Matango, I recommend it
how did elaine may manage to shit out this ultrakino and then subsequently make a film so fucking bad it killed her career eternally
>>201769330More like men start acting like pricks towards each other when they are around a woman they like
>>201769413Ishtar is not that bad tbqh
>>201769491I'm quick to attack women, but you're also right on the money. Whatever power women have has been gifted to them by thirsty men.
>>201769510For me, the first 20 minutes in New York were amazing, but then the feeling slowly wore off until by the end the film was unbearable. So I definitely enjoyed some of it but people probably hated it so much because the last impression of a film is what everyone remembers.
>>201769154Based
>>201769568100% correct
Queer kino?
>>201769041It doesn't sucks, but it isn't even in the same league as The Ascent. Husband-wife kinomaking couple where the woman completely mogs her husband at doing the same kind of film
>>201769413There's a reason she never directed anything between M&N and Ishtar. Everyone knew what would happen if you gave her a huge budget but Beatty was horny so he did it
>>201769026>>201769158lmao
>>201769413She tried to ape Cassavettes and didn’t know what she was doing. I still like the performances in the film though
ATTENTION /film/! We are currently holding a vote for a new /film/ canon to challenge the S&S poll. Please submit a ranked list of your top 10 (ten) favorite films. Here are the rules >>201743959>>201744161>>201747102Alright, then take this post as the offical start of the voting. I'll use this stupid trip for all posts involved with the voting so other anons can't pose as me and change the rules. Speaking of which, here are the rules:1) Voting will continue until July 2nd at 7am BST (or whatever time I wake up on the 2nd)2) Submit your vote by responding to this post or future similar posts I make in future threads3) Votes made not responding to my anchor posts will be discarded4) Votes must contain 10 (ten) films ranked from 1 to 10, if there is no ranking indicated they will be ranked from top to bottom5) No duplicate films may be included in your ranking6) Votes containing more or less than 10 (ten) films will be discarded7) The films will be scored using the following weighted voting system>1st film = 5 points>2nd film = 4 points>3rd film = 3 points>4th film = 2 points>5th-10th films = 1 point8) At the end of the voting period, all points will be tallied and the top 100 (or less if not many anons participate) films will be compiled into the chart>>201767188Sorry, got distracted watching the Olympic opening ceremony. It fucking sucked
>>201770126Fucked that up pretty bad, but you get the point
>>201769026You got filtered.
>>201769947Riveting argument
>>201770186>says the guy with IT LE STINKER
>>201770211>>201770168Still no argument, just bitch fits
>>201769026Riveting argument
>bitch fitsRude, I feel attacked
>>201769158Still no argument, just bitch fits
>>201770211It was not him it was me, the film genuinely feels like something a film student in his early 20s would make
The extent of discussion you people are capable of is >no uDoes no one here ever had debating class on high school?
>>201770126Finis Terræ, 1929Annette, 2021The Scarlet Empress, 1934The Lair of the White Worm, 1988The Wayward Cloud, 2005The Age of the Earth, 1980The Immortal Story, 1968Heart of Glass, 1976Danger: Diabolik, 1968Limite, 1931
>>201770388Another amazing argument....le student film! (despite it being far far superior even from technical pov)
>>201763416Izzy is beautiful.
>>201770655>Danger: DiabolikBased. Is it any good?
>>201770734>Based. Is it any good?Either you're drunk or I am
>>201770126>1 Rocco and His Brothers 1960>2 Rear Window 1954>3 Red Beard 1965>4 Blow-Up 1966>Great Expectations 1946>Ordet 1955>Tristana 1970>Lolita 1962>Woman in the Dunes 1964>Picnic at Hanging Rock 1975I just came up with this in like three minutes and I feel like my favorites change all the time but still>>201770655Damn surprised to see a Jean Epstein film in someone's top 10, nice
>>201770126Tenebrae (Argento, 1982)Sailor Suit and Machine Gun (Somai, 1981)Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (Lynch, 1992)The Silence of the Lambs (Demme, 1991)Stalker (Tarkovsky, 1979)Battles Without Honor and Humanity (Fukasaku, 1973)Freddy Got Fingered (Green, 2001)The Driver (Hill, 1978)Southern Comfort (Hill, 1981)Cure (Kurosawa K., 1997)>>201770713Incorruptibly true and effervescently based.
>>201771283>Freddy Got Fingered (Green, 2001)Surely you're joking. It's funny (it's just the movie equivalent of a shitpost), but it's hardly Top 10 material.
>>201771283This Adjani woman looks like a tranny here
>>201771325I agree that it’s essentially a celluloid shitpost, but it’s the movie that makes me laugh the most, so I wanted to include it because the poll asked for favourites specifically.
>>2017701261- Persona2- Nostalghia3- Weekend (1967)4- The Turin Horse5- Whispering Pages6- Meshes of the Afternoon7- Fall of the House of Usher (Epstein)8- Ballad of Narayama (1958)9- La Vie Nouvelle10- T,O,U,C,H,I,N,G
>>2017701261. The Brown Bunny2. 'Rameau's Nephew' by Diderot (Thanx to Dennis Young) by Wilma Schoen3. Mother Dao, the Turtlelike4. Throw Away Your Books, Rally in the Streets5. And Give My Love to the Swallows6. The Bed You Sleep In7. Lamentations: A Monument to the Dead World8. Parfisal9. As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty10. She Spent So Many Hours Under the Sun Lamps
>>201771686Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think this would be a real top 10 from anyone except some aging hipster film programmer in New York
A Night in Casablanca > Ishtar > Casablanca
>>201771777This looks like a tracklist on some experimental music album
>>201771777New Yorkers are kinda based because they just run movies that were made in New York. Instead of conforming to “canon” they just insist that Larry Cohen, Abel Ferrara, and William Lustig are in actuality the greatest artists the world has ever known, which is admirable to me. I actually do like all their movies.
>>201768339>>201768532watch more movies
>>2017701261) Marketa Lazarova (Vlacil)2) Rome, Open City (Rossellini)3) As Bodas de Deus (Monteiro)4) Mirror (Tarkovsky)5) High Noon (Zinnemann)6) Au Hasard Balthazar (Bresson)7) Lancelot du Lac (Bresson)8) El romance del Aniceto y la Francisca (Favio)9) On the Waterfront (Kazan)10) C'eravamo tanto amati (Scola)
>>201769413>ultrakinoIt's only *just* a good movie. Nowhere close to being great.
>>201771686>>201771867This is all it takes to filter nu/film/? Truly embarrassing.The only thing that triggered me was the fucking Jon Jost, but other than that the list is fine, with well known films/filmmakers in arthouse cinema.I’ll respect any list that isn’t fucking 2001 and Stalker
>>201772022I despise this type of circle jerk, huffing of farts, Brody can go fuck himself straight to hell for eternity
>>201763295>France hosts the gay Olympic>it's a complete embarrasment>sixteen years later, China still the best Olympic ceremony everAPOLOGIZE to Zhang Yimou /film/Apologize right now
What version of Stalker is the best? I don't want to watch the ruined versions
>>201773247The respect of some /film/ schizo is not quite something anyone's seeking
>>201773396The one with pink skies
>>201773247>Stalker le bad because uhh… well people like it okay!!!??
>>201773396Choose the one you like best based on the screenshots since there are arguments for any of the versions, as usual with these remasters.
>>201773396My nigga is sleeping over piss xdI watched the one on the right, but the colors were more saturated, more like a mix between burgundy and that brownish tone, true saturated sepia
>The arrival of Stalker's wife in the cafe where they are resting confronts the Writer and the Scientist with a puzzling, to them incomprehensible, phenomenon. There before them is a woman who has been through untold miseries because of her husband, and has had a sick child by him; but she continues to love him with the same selfless, unthinking devotion as in her youth. Her love and her devotion are that final miracle which can be set against the unbelief, cynicism, moral vacuum poisoning the modern world, of which both the Writer and the Scientist are victims.
>>201763295Hey OP, I watched Missing and tomorrow I'll watch State of Siege. Ask me anything.
>>201774093Are you Greek? How acquainted are you with his films? What are your plans for the weekend? Are you single? Are you a hot young girl?
>>201774017Based take. It would have been cooler if Stalker's wife was hot, like the blonde girl in Mirror
>>201767424I did watch it, but it left the same impression as The French Connection in me; simplisting copy-pasting of scenes together and a simplistic plot.
>>201774291Every truly great film has a simple story.
>>201774403rofl
>>201774501I accept your concession, philistine.
>>201774250Yes, I am, but you would be more warranted to ask me that if I mentioned Theo Aggelopoulos (of whom I've yet to watch a film).A little bit, I started watching Z with my brick for a brain gf but she got bored and we abandoned it after Lambrakis' death.Visiting said gf.Aren't we all in the end?No.>>201774403But not simplistic.
>>201774403Come to think of it wasn't the French Connection also directed by Friedkin?
>>201770126Three Crowns of the Sailor PatriotismUnder the Flag of the Rising SunA Bittersweet LifeSansho the BailiffBad TimingLemonade JoeTokyo SonataAu Hasard BalthazarThe Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting
I love The French Connection. It's a truly Bressonian crime thriller, lean and stripped to the bone.
>>201774633Have you watched John the Violent (1973)?
>>201774734>A Bittersweet LifeHe knows
>>201774501
>>201769985>She tried to ape Cassavettes and didn’t know what she was doingCassavettes sucks though
>>201773247>tryhard newfag think shitting on 2001 and Stalker is coolWell, I sometimes forget that /film/ is still /tv/ after all
>>201770126My list got called a "troll list" last thread. You better be counting it.
>>201774742No, whose is it?
>>201774741I should rewatch it.
>>201775366I don’t think shitting on bad films is “cool”, it’s just merely stating facts. Water is wet, sky is pink,2001 and Stalker stink
>>201774501>t. plotfag
>>201775590Where did I say truly great films have a story or plot at all? I’m the opposite of a plotfag dumbass
>>201775654>t. plotfag
>>201775699I accept your concession, philistine.
>>201775781>parroting an anon’s reply to you verbatimThe IQ of the plotfag, everyone.
>>201775566I have to disagree with you
>>201775366Yeah, all the bad from /tv/ with the added bad qualities that show up easily in generals
what movie should I watch on my 500th consecutive Friday night alone
>>201778113Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
>>201778010I wonder which nuevo genero (that makes one pensar and sentir) would that be
>>201778010
>>201778253I watched it with my ex she said it was good I only liked the beach scenes because the beach is nice I like it its all sad and gay though the rest of that besides when the chick was jumping on a bed in her underwear I think
>>201778452Based. Not good film.Watch Perfect Days.
>>201770126You made sure to count my Stuart Little list, right?
>>201778542lmao
>>201778637No meme lists allowed
>>201779155Yes please. At least the meme list poster should prove that he is, in fact, not memeing.
>>201779155You better have counted my Tsai list. It's my actual opinion.
>>2017701261- The End of Evangelion2- Shin Godzilla3- Love & Pop4- Shiki-Jitsu5- Antiporno6- Love Exposure7- All About Lily Chou-Chou8- A Snake of June9- Rubber’s Lover10- Emperor Tomato Ketchup
>>201779808>AntipornoThat's a yikes from me. I love porn.
>>201778637>>201779155>>201779238>>201779581He already said he’s counting all meme/troll lists, as he should
>>201779851You should watch the film then, it’s got a lot of fantastic nudity
>>201779808Based eroguro enjoyer
>>201779918I watched it, but it's literally an antiporno essay film. I can't give a thumbs up to my man Sono when he's trying to destroy culture like that
>>201779918So does #10
>Voting will continue until July 2ndBased year-long poll
>>201780102>Needs to be that long since the threads are so deadSad!
>>201771686>Rameau's NephewBased deep cut.
>>201779858>He already said he’s counting all meme/troll lists, as he shouldThey obviously shouldn't be counted, the amount of meme lists will skew the results to mean nothing except who memed harder to get in. Anybody can posts dozens of lists just for giggles.
>>201780165NOOO it’s a New York hipster cut I can’t HANDLE IT NOOO!!!
IT'S DAVID.... LEEEENCHTWIN PEAKS IS ON CRITERIONHIS NEW REBOOT IS THE BEST FILM OF THE 2020S AND THE NEW CENTURYI HAVE A POSTER OF DAVID LEENCH ON MY WALL HE IS LIKE MY WACKY UNCLE HES SO ADORABLE I LOVE HIM SOOOO MUCHEW? FILMED THEATER? ELIZA KAZAN? INGMAR BERGMAN? BUT WHER ARE THE MEMES. THE VIBES. THE VIIIIIIIBES. EVERY FRAME IS NOT LIKE A MUSEUM PIECE. THE CINEMATOGRAPHY CANOOT BE HANGED ON THE WALL!!!!!!
>>201771283>Sailor Suit and Machine Gun (Somai, 1981)it is unironically on my top 10 too. Somai is a genius
>>201780240Any list should be counted. Anyone can post anything. A “serious” list to you is a “meme” to someone else. Everyone is posting tons of shitty lists already. This chart will be a snapshot in time- Welcome to nu/film/
>>201779808>Emperor Tomato KetchupBased Stereolab appreciator.
>>201780274stale gimmick
>>201780330>Welcome to nu/film/But we are currently in the post-no/film/ era.
>>201780274Why haven’t you submitted a list yet?
>>201780274Barbara Loden > Eliza Kazan
>>201780320I enjoy Love Hotel and Typhoon Club
>>201779808so predictable
>>201780240The chart already means nothing lmao do you think any of this shit fucking matters in the slightest? Jesus Christ I pity your life
>>201780394Goddamn, fair enough. I need to keep up with the times
>>201780240I agree, we started this voting with at least half serious intentions. The memes should come from the perceived absurdity of the final results; I'm pretty sure that Tark haters will come out the woodworks when they see the final poll, same for Lynchfags, Sight and Sound memes, etc. Admitting memes with unserious lists just makes the whole exercise and the serious voters trivial by default.
>>201780493who hurt you
>>201780493It's actually fun to do, that makes it matter... haven't you learned anything from watching optimistic kino?
>>201780493>dude you care about his? oh my god he cares about something, lolz nothing matters kiddoYou people are insufferable
>>2017701261. Suspiria (1977)2. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)3. Stop Making Sense (1984)4. Phantom of the Paradise (1974)5. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)6. Possession (1981)7. Boogie Nights (1997)8. Heaven’s Gate (1980)9. The Thief and the Cobbler (1993)10. Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (2007)
Is this the most patrician film site out there?https://boysinmovies.com
>>201781544Based. You seem like a cool dude, we'd get along well
You know what to do.
>>201782163I do. Do you?
There is literally no possible way to discern which lists are troll lists because any poster with an ounce of individuality is inevitably going to have a weird ass pick that only he can justify to himself and it looks like a troll to everyone else. Include everyone or don’t bother at all.
>>201782343I don't know if you do what I think it's the thing we ought to know to do. But I do.
I just want to watch movies I enjoy. I'm tired of watching movies and only half-enjoying them or just watching them for analysis.
>>201772773saw on the waterfront recentlyloada shitbrando overrated
>>201782348Odd picks here and there affirm individual tastes and are what's expected from this exercise. Actual troll/meme lists aren't hard to identify, for example that Stuart Little one.
>>201782772Your post's structure and content indicate you have a very low IQ.
>>201782411what films do you enjoy? surely the waterfront isnt one of them
>>201782854just a boring film. not convinced by brando
>>201782886I enjoyed On the Waterfront and several other Kazan films.
Watched High Noon and i agree with John Wayne. That was some ludicrous commie fucking gobbledygook. Rio Bravo mogs.
fing about terrence malick is his films can look very nice but they are all assi still have hidden life saved coz i like the cinematographics but likei couodnt enjoy a film like thati cant enjoy pretentious whispering background vocals talking horseshit about godeljust a load of shithafta say same thing about tarkovsky.way those films are shot and aesthetic can be very satisfying at least in some filmsbut the intellectual content is nilli am not interested in hearing the ravings of a mentally ill delusional christcuck
>dude it mogs>just shit yo>like boring frfrRetarded teens woke up and are eager to offer their shit takes
its the problem with film for someone who is analytically and scientifically minded like myselfi like science, physics, neuroscience, i like analytic philosophy like quine wittgensteini am not interested in airy fairy buzzwords pseudo intellectual existential phenomenological contental philosophico bullshite like hegel and all those fuggin assholesand that is the stuff that a lot of the intellectual background of postwar arthouse is based onand how can i engage with that?i cant because i know its horseshitpeople could engage with freud and the subconscious in the 60s because they didnt know betterbut times have changed and any intellectually reasonable philosopher or scientist knows its horseshitrenders so many of those films meaninglessnot all but. its still a palpable undercurrent in some directorsi mean fuck bergman right? just a load of bollocks even if some films are okaystill alot of SHITlucky he made so many films so he could get a few hits in those misses
>>201783084Commie absolutely bubbling
>>201783005I think both are great, top 10 westerns
i liked that western film with bogart when they went gold hunting and had lots of communist undertones, themes of greedforgot the nametreasure sierra nevada or summat>>201782989i liked east of eden. not seen any others i dont think
Why are you talking in ebonics?
Watch more christian films
>>201783349Slave ideology
>>201783349i actually did like dreyer joan of arc
>>201782348well midwits are always calling high IQ people retards, because they are trapped in the 120 range a zon ewhere you cannot create knowledge, therefore you can only survive in the intellectual realm by leeching off the nearest authority figures, that is why the canon is filled with things such as Dielman, Mulholland Drive and In the Mood for Love, films people do not actually like, while turning their nose up at a good kung fu film.
>>201784377Someone like you shows exactly the power of their IQ at every post
>>201784377>le ebin Herzog quote
>>201784377Actually true. I agree. Mullholand is good though, just not that good. Mood for Love is turbo overrated and b-word.
>>201770734Yes, it's kino.
>>201785319false. in the mood for love is perfectly and accurately rated. it's a genuinely well made film and is very aware of its strengths and plays to them.
>>201784377Name five (5) good Kung Fu films right now
>>201785418He can name 500 after he wikipedia them
>>201785405I just didn't get it then, but for me it's a 5/10. Very boring.
>>201763295Just watched A Gentle Breeze in the Vilage with my girl. I've cried like a baby in the "heartbroken" scene. my girlfriend even became a little woried. I had to explain to her that the film immersed me very deeply, and how Soyo story speaks to my soul. Fun times. Amazing movie, fantastic direction.
>>201782411This
>>201783005What's commie about High Noon? It's about a man that selflessly does the right thing even when the odds are against him.
>>201773586I mean... shouldn't things be a bit more clear in this case?
>>201780330>Everyone is posting tons of shitty lists already.Let's just discard these.
>>201774290Or the blonde girl in Nostalghia. Or the blonde girl in Sacrifice.
>>201767888Never made a mediocre film.
>>201768339Oh, no.Not even close, it's actually a good movie.
>>201787426True, he was the kind of great artist in which success or failures are interesting and complex
This was so challenging to watch. I had to force myself to sit through it, pausing multiple times. 2/10. Once you've seen a Żuławski film you've seen them all. Is there anyone of you that liked this film? Please explain what did you like if so.
>>201782411Most movies are bad. If I don't like a movie after twenty minutes in I turn it off and put something else on. It's like Sam Fuller said, if a script doesn't grab you by the balls in the first ten pages it's not worth reading further.
>>201787598FILTEREDILTERED>i'm not filtered, explain to me why you liked it>"I had to force myself to sit through it, pausing multiple times"KEK
>>201787602I disagree, I think most movies are mediocre. It takes a bigger effort to achieve badness than it does to settle into mediocrity.
>>201787824You made me laugh. Genuinely great shitpost format
>>2017701261- Vanishing Point 19712- Convoy 19783- White Lightning 19734- Smokey and The Bandit 19775- The Third Man 19496- A Tree Grows in Brooklyn 19457- Touch Of Evil 19588- Make Way for Tomorrow 19379- Ride the Pink Horse 194710- The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 1948
>>201788019Shout out to A Tree Grows In Brooklyn, it touched me.
>>201787598I dislike the Zulawski style of acting too, but this was a very interesting and impressive depiction of an alien world otherwise so I finished watching it in one sitting. It will be a long time before I watch it again because I remember I actually felt exhausted afterwards.
>>201788019I think I get Vanishing Point number 1 of all time. It's such a deeply beautiful film, just like Easy Rider. Really captures male aloneness in a way that few films do.
>>201788236Yeah, the costume work and locations filmed were pretty much top notch for Zulawski, but I just can't deal with watching a 3 hour plotless film with only poetry as dialogue. Add to that the typical screaming "I'm acting!" type of acting and the classic "POV" camerawork that all of his films have, and I had mentally checked out 40 minutes in. Felt like watching a bad Skyrim gameplay on film format lol.
>>201783124Soviet commies made great films though
>>201770126pola x (1999)duelle (1976)berlin alexanderplatz (1980)il se peut que la beaute ait renforce notre resolution - masao adachi (2011)violated angels (1967)branded to kill (1967)au hasard balthazar (1966)l'humanité (1999)la notte (1961)floating weeds (1959)
>>201775389>>201778637Read the post, he's only counting since this thread.
>>201774734>Lemonade JoeBased.
>>201774741>truly Bressonian crime thrillerNot even close
>>201788999Bresson disagrees.
>>201767224There are some post 2010 American movies I enjoyed like Shot caller, Sicario, Den of thieves. Large unambitious crime genre films. The films lauded by critics tend to have overbearing political messages. It seems they can't make films for the sake of films anymore. It's always either "women are so oppressed by the patriarchal society" or " the society is mainly conservative, uncivilized and stupid" and " I'm lgbt and got hated by everyone". I remember some directors of the past like Luchino Visconti and Derek Jarman made just gay /films/ that are not politically ham fisted.
>>201787602But what if it grabs you in the first ten pages but then meanders and gets too long but still returns to form at the end like La Terra Trema?
>>201789151Largely unambitious*
>>201788883No? He was already looking at lists posted since last thread.
>La Terra TremaMasterwork!
>>201789219>Alright, then take this post as the offical start of the voting.
no clue what to watch tonight
>>201780440Another one who never made a mediocre film.
>>201780363This is not getbig, faggot.
>>201789451Go shit yourself, brother.
>>201789382But he already had looked at the past lists! I've been betrayed, I need official confirmation.Anyway, I post my list yet again: >>2017701261-The Ascent2-A Brighter Summer Day3-La dolce vita4-A Short Film About Killing5-Blowup6-Eyes Wide Shut7-Melancholia8-Cold Fish9-Vampiros en La Habana10-Le samouraï
>>201773337Ironically that's when his films started really sucking.
>>201786723It's not a commie movie, it was anti Joe McCarthy so guys like Wayne and Reagan did not like it.
>>201789125Bresson probably hated that shit.
I know we all have Henry Fool here but what do we think of its sequels?
>>201789382>>201789545He copy pasted his post retards.
>>201789772Thanks for the reminder!
>>201789772Cheating again....
>>201789384Clue
>>201789893I've said no clue!
>>201773557>>201773586>>201773643Ahh gotcha, I can get the lumière one but I don't know how good it looks. Anyone checked it out?
CheatAnon really is a fraudster
>>201789923Leave No Trace
>>201789384
>>201763888Modern European films are just as bad as American ones in that regard. They just have a very slight difference in what it is they’re screeching about.
>>2017701261. Andrei Rublev2. On the Waterfront3. Seven Samurai4. Diary of a Country Priest5. Ordet6. Tokyo Story7. The Searchers8. La Strada9. Lawrence of Arabia10. The Adventures of Robin Hood
Tarkovsky used to be my favorite Russian filmmaker, but as I grew older and wiser within film history, I realized that there are 3 great Russian filmmakers who are all equivalent on almost every level, and he's only one of them.Andrei Tarkovsky, Mikhail Kalatozov, and Elem Klimov.
>>2017701261. Angst 19832. The Trial 19623. La vie nouvelle4. Eraserhead5. 2001: A Space Odyssey6. Faust 19267. Napoleon 19278. Valley of the bees9. The Searchers10. El TopoIn case you didn't see it in the last thread
>>201790379He's reading every thread.>>201790308German is better than all of them.
>>201790517lol
>>201785405>and is very aware of its strengths and plays to them.Isn't that limiting of the artform though? If you are only doing a weird autistic niche ("omg japan has big macs too, o shit the expiration date on the tuna is a person!!), then you will never have a great film, you will merely have a film of autistic asides.
>>201790308>>201790517not Bondarchuk ? Waterloo is unprecedented
>>201790517>GermanBased.>>201790715Waterloo is not even his best film. War and Peace is.
>>201789932https://caps-a-holic.com/c_list.php?c=2424
>>201763295I need more movies like pic related that incorporate montage. It's like a throwback to silent cinema, but in an otherwise modern film. Not artificially done, but perfectly in tune with the story. Used at a moment of climax, a dithyrambic intensification, and so intelligently justified by the film-within-a-film.
>>201788548>I just can't deal with watching a 3 hour plotless film with only poetry as dialogueThat’s called “being filtered” anon
>>201789718>filtered by The Shit ConnectionHoly nigger.
>>201790308>no Sokurovrofl
>>201791662Cranes are flyingMauvais sangLa vie nouvelle
>>201770126The CrematorBirds, Orphans and FoolsThe Hourglass SanatoriumLe PlaisirThat Most Important Thing: LoveIn a Lonely PlaceThat Obscure Object of DesireCéline and Julie Go BoatingShaneInstitute Benjamenta, or This Dream People Call Human Life
CAM ON /FILM/MAKE SAM FACKIG CHARTS
>>201790379Mine is the best btw
>>201795853Samefagging charts?
>>201770998>>Tristana 1970>>Lolita 1962fuck noif your favorites change all the time so please change it again
>>201797092>change your favorites because I don't like themYou people are something else
>>201787153Okay, we’ve already gotten rid of yours.
>>201797092Cry, little bitch.
Fell asleep watching Tarkovsky again
>>201797197Oh noes! Not my non-existing list please!
>>201797596I’m glad you’ve already realised that nobody cares for your input. Good boy.
He’s unironically a better director than the other Paul Anderson.
>>201779581so he's a devil worshiper too huh
>>201797660Not in any capacity except the 'kineticism' that PTA doesn't even employ. But he's better looking.
>>201797608>caring about bullcheat nono/film/ polls
>>201797758>bullcheatkek