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Maario Naharis
>>202074357I though she let him smash when I first saw this scene
loyal
I trust black people more than the anons here and I agree with that guy from this video. Jace is 1/4 black and he's Laenor's son. Baela is probably a bastard.
>>202074427hot slutty Catelyn instead of motherly hag Catelyn would've elevated first seasons of GOT to perfection
>>202074357Did his wife have green hair in the books?Idr that. The one manderly girl does tho
>>202074462Based
>>202074462>I promise you us mixed folx look like this hyper attractive white dude, please white people give us validation and attentionI'd laugh if it wasn't so incredibly sad and insecure.
Realm's MONKE
....semoc eH
>>202074462He's not wrong though. There are even kids of biracial couples who have white skin.
>>202074614Why did this poster set people off rather than cute and canon guy or someone else
>>202074614
I loved Aegon before it was safe to do so. Now the people who mocked me for years are parroting my same talking points
>>202074674Greencels hate him because he's a Blackwood; basement dweller posters hate him because he was killing people at age 12 and they struggle to open a bag of potato chips.
>>202074462There's certain niches and subcultures that are so too fucking strange even by my own standards. Like what would even be the point of this? The show explicitly reveals that Laenor and Rhaenyra were completely platfonic, Laenor had his gay bf and Rhenyra had her hunk. What's even the benefit of pretending Laenor was straight and had kids with Rhaenyra, only to not make Rhaenyra look like a total slut? But we know she is a slut in-cannon, we see her having random sex with various people.
alicent betrayed her entire family
>>202074711I'm going to miss this magnificent guy.
>Preston works for the CIA>has a wife and two young sons>will soon have his own first novel published>still has time for a youtube channel and the fanficMEANWHILE THE FAT MAN CAN'T FINISH A SINGLE FUCKING BOOK IN MORE THAN DECADE
This show will die for it's transgressions against the Greens which is good but if it does, we'll get no more greens which is bad
Well?https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaG06dg3
>>202074774They deserved it for being so fucking stupid. > hurr Daemon would be a bad heir, let's force Viserys to name Rhaenyra instead> hurr Rhaenyra would be a bad heir, let's put her coomer step-brother instead> hurr why is known-retard Aegon not listening to my advice?? ReeeeKnockoff-Tywin fucked it all up.
>>202074795Yeah, honestly up to last episode he was pretty much carrying the Daemon scenes 2bh
>>202074804>works for the CIAno wonder he's such a liberal
>Little boys should be more mannerly when men are speaking. I think your father did not beat you often enough. Take care I do not make up for his lack.”Ulf should have said this line since Hugh probably.
>>202074462Real. Eventually (( they )) will accept the truth.>>2020746041/4 blacks are white passing, that guy made a valid point.
>>202074835YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE RATCATCHERS SLAUGHTERED LIKE WRETCHED CURS, YOU IMPUDENT BOY
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>>202074835otto's only misstep was making the moves for aegon to be king, but never teaching him how
>Mongrels and men of lesser blood, a vile crime has been perpetrated! Rats in grey robes have scooped out my father's brain and sent it to the citadel! And these traitors, sucking the cocks and balls - sucking the cocks and balls - of Hightowers- Oldtown - Oldtown Hightower queers in petticoats. Look at them. You see? Those grey rats! I am Viserys' heir! You will not steal my throne!
>>202074868No, he fucked it from the start. There was no reason not to marry Alicent to Daemon and have their kids inherit westeros from that point onwards.
>>202074767In the book the parentage of Jace, Luke, and Joffrey is a lot less certain because Laenor is pale and silver haired but his mother has black hair.
If D&D were in charge this never would have happenedthey were goated when they had material to adapt. condal and hess and floundering with book material
>>202074888Fucking hell, checked.
>>202074900Pic relatedL->RRhaenys, Laena, Laenor, Corlys
>>202074857>1/4 blacks are white passingSometimes.>that guy made a valid point.Ehhh
>>202074462>>202074857>>>/pol/go back
>>202074897daemon the wife killer?
>>202074939Swallow some pills and then take a bath.
>>202074357I don't remember Walder being a zombie
>>202074944Viserys killed his wife too. If Alicent couldn't get pregnant, he was gonna chop her up and trying to extract her fetus just as easily.
>>202074864Thayne?
>>202074857If he's indeed 1/4 black and Laenor's son, why does he have dark hair? Explain.
>>202075036Based bluebeard family.
>>202075036you lack media literacy
>>202074804>works for the CIA>regularly indulges in deranged anti-Trump conspiracy theoriesIt's all coming together
>>202074864What is this
>>202074827Are we still the same 8 people from the previous thread? That's sad.
>>202074357I feel like I’m going crazy a lot of people on the clock app are defending the leaks and defending the general direction of the show going on about how “oh well you know green propaganda just let them cook” and whatnot>>202074462Did you watch the rest of the video? He basically goes IDGAF it’s good that they’re black because diversity
>>202074923it's sad that the audience is such drooling idiots that they couldn't keep rhaenys' black hair. black hair and purple eyes is a fantastic combo
>>202075051From his grandmother's side, he got the Arryn genes.
>>202075187>clock app?
So does Rhaena not actually mounting Sheepstealer by the end of season mean Nettles is still possible, or is it just wishful thinking? I've been thinking that the circles of burned sheep they keep finding might be Nettles' offerings, and by the time Rhaena tries (and fails) to ride sheepstealer, Nettles will have earned enough brownie points that she will come to save her and successfully mount Sheepstealer in the process.
>>202075187>I feel like I’m going crazy a lot of people on the clock app are defending the leaks and defending the general direction of the show going on about how “oh well you know green propaganda just let them cook” and whatnotOnly you've got yourself to blame because of using that garbage app and watching too many societal rejects, which is why the algorithm gives you more of their shitty content.
>>202075224Same gigachad jaw, but his is symmetrical.
>>202074888>My father... was a warm and mighty dragon, and we are his 170 million orphaned hatchlings. Rivermen hatchlings, Northern hatchlings, Valemen hatchlings, Reach- *Vhagar flyby drowns out sound*
>>202074888I appreciate this reference
>abandons his dragon, family, and lineage for some sellsword bussy in Essos They should’ve actually killed Laenor instead of this bullshit
>>202075219Wasn't Rhaenys black hair retconned in Fire and Blood? Or maybe it was the other way around, she has silver hair originally and then it was changed to black.
>>202075224wait a minute, they kinda look alike
>>202075229Well they included Daeron this late into the show so I don’t see why not.
>>202074763It’s really jarring going back to pre-HOTD threads on reddit and like…the overwhelming majority fo the people hated the Greens. The story is legitimately not as nuanced as people want the show to be based on the comments, fans weren’t split the comments are basically “yeah Rhaenyra deserves the throne and Aegon was wrong to claim it, also fuck Alicent and Cole”.I’ve read so essay like posts on TUMBLR where people breakdown why and how the show is shallow while the books are actually super layered and stuff
>>202075229Tinfoil hat take:They wanted to see how people would react to giving Nettles’ plot to Rhaena so they gave themselves an out at the end of the season if people didn’t like it.
>>202075280Why do they never seem to give a shit about making sure the black actors and actresses they cast look like they’re related.Rhaela and Baela do NOT look like they’re related at all
>>202075224It's crazy to think that Jace's actor was only 16 years old on the first season but still had that jawline.
>>202075229Normally I would say no because it would be too late to introduce Nettles now and have heir join the blacks at this point. But giving how much they're delaying events from the books, who the fuck knows. Season 3 could probably end without battle of the gullet not even taking place at this point
>>202075224God the actress who plays lady Arryn is the perfect example of pure European beauty
>>202074888>The Westeros jousting team was on its way to Essos for a tournament but mysteriously arrived three weeks late and was filled with knights no one knew anything about.
explain to me how the new episode was leaked for over 3-4 HOURS just a few days ago and not one single person managed to make a rip of it before they realized the mistake?
>>202075296What made them decide on cutting either characters in the first place>noo they weren’t going to cut DaeronBoy wasn’t mentioned when he could have or should have been for the sake of the show/audience
>>202075340I'm not a book reader but it's pretty obvious the younger one isn't Daemon's kid, she can't even ride a dragon
>>202075369It looks like the triarchy and Velaryon fleet are sailing towards eachother in the leaked ending montage
>>202075369They’re so weird about pacing. B&C happened almost instantaneously and we didn’t even get to see the Helaegon’s children much
What are the chances we even see Cannibal or Grey Ghost?
>>202075224Imagine if Rhaenys had dark hair like the book, these conversations would be interesting.
>>202075430I would say 0, both of them are expensive and useless to the story
>>202075224Reminder >Mushroom claims that lady Jeyne Arryn had a “voracious appetite for men” and told Jace that she would only ally with the blacks if he could give her an orgasm through oral sex.
Them adding that his mother was Saera was the only good thing the show added this season. It was also unironically the best Team Black scene this season too, everyone outside of Jace is fucking boring or annoying.
>>202074610The show died when she left. You all know this
>>202075301It's the reddit community that lacks nuance, not the book. Same reason why they treat as R+L=J as absolute cannon even though in the actual books it still remains an ongoing mystery.
>>202075533It died with Paddy, and subsequently exploded alongside Aegon's sausage. This slag's contribution was minimal.
>>202075501I agree. From Team Black I only liked Jace this season and Hugh's scene was indeed very good. Daemon was a huge disappointment and Rhaenyra... nevermind.
>>202075250Every time I see this bitch and she's not FAT I get depressed
>>202075500>oral sexHOT I wish that was on the show
>>202075553>ignoring the show which very clearly provides the major beats of what will happen in the story just because you dislike the implications
The Egg that was Promised
>>202074827If you post this on European times it's going to be 80% Jace or even more.
>>202075707FAGgyre
>>202075702Except they do it only when it suits them. So R+L=J and Jon resurrection are confirmed by the TV show, but fAegon being a useless subplot or Daenyris going insane is not.
Alicent is a retarded TRAITOR
>>202075501What? People unironically give a shit about that obscure whore footnote from the lore? Why?
>>202075771Daenerys will go insane and Young Griff will simply substitute for Queen Cersei.
>>202075781True and Haelaena
>>202075826Like mother like daughter!
>>202075219regardless, it's cool as hell, and makes the targaryens much more fun. I love the hair color shit like Darkstar and Valarr
Men bad? And women good? Wowza that’s a neat message!
>>202074610my true queen
i rated honestly and it came out looking very sexist, but this is truly how i feel.
>>202075798Just a neat detail. Ties in well considering Vermithor was Jaehaerys dragon. It immediately stopped what it was doing when he faced it, the dragon was almost immediately obedient and even a little affectionate towards him. The dragon knows. He could smell the blood of his old master.
>>202075969Based
Roberts Rebellion Prequel with Jack Gleeson as a young Jaime Lannister. Yay or nay?
>>202076055No, he would have to be handsome like him.
>>202075806>Young Griff will simply substitute for Queen Cersei.By that same logic, Jon being a Targaryen was also a substitute for the rival that Young Griff was supposed to be in the books. He's even called Aegon in the show. In any case, by the book timeline R+L=J is still a mystery and nobody confirmed it yet inside of the books, so it makes no sense to treat it as gospel in the discussions the way reddit does.
>>202075305that is an absolute correct take. Same happened with Daeron and possibly will with Maelor
>>202074357why is dunk and egg so much comfier than the main series?
>>202076055Jack is older than adult Jaime is in the books at this point.
>>202076055he'd have to play a diffferent variant of a piece of shit. same family, but less psychopathic. i'd like to see him try and pull it off actually.
Anyone have the D&D comparison picture about Talya?>Rob marries a spunky girl with a fat ass
Reddit thread on the HotD subreddit asking people to rank their favorite characters between Aegon, Daemon, Rhaenyra, and Aemond.Almost every comment is putting Aegon up as their favorite character (“really to surprised to say this…”, “Aegon has all the best scenes now”, “the only who seems human in all this”). Rhaenyra is also coming in on almost every comment (“boring”, “white-washed”, “does nothing”). I’m not even making this up. Amazing how badly Condal and Hess have fumbled this.
Didn't ask
>>202076128Because it's the equivalent of reading the first 5 chapters of aGOT. Dunk and Egg is even more of an unfinished mess than anything else George wrote, the series was supposed to cover Egg's entire journey from a little kid to the king that died at Summerhall.
My leal anons will (You) me
>>202076135She kinda has a flat ass t b h. Not even worth it
>>202076133Young Jaime wasn't really a piece of shit. Minus the incest he seemed to be a caring guy who bought into the honorable knights schtick until he became one and was exposed to the hypocrisy of it all.
>>202076138I wouldn't say fumbled, I think you're supposed to root a bit for Aegon in season 2 above all Green characters.
#202076196I’ll have no (You)s about how braved you posted, Captchasolver
>>202076218He's the only good green
>>202076138>Won by doing nothing and letting the Blacksissy writers make the Blacks boring and dull Holy based
>>202076201I’ll have your tongue for that.
>>202076284How am I supposed to shitpost when you're over there posting pictures like that?
>>202076101That is not consistent with the logic I used and to imply that accepting R+L=J as essentially canon is reddit is ridiculous. If R+L=J was not true, then Ashara Dayne would’ve been mentioned at least once in the show, and the Daynes would’ve been fleshed out. If he was simply Ned’s bastard with a random whore, then they would’ve gone with that, rather than revealing R+L=J. Any reasonable person would concede that the Queen Cersei plotline will be substituted for Aegon VI in the books.
>>202075977Every Targaryen is descended from Jaehaerys. Hugh is not special. They only did so feminist can make the “imagine Jaehaerys face when saeras son claimed his dragon” memes
>>202076284>'Attack attack :^)' she was cute and had a magnificent ass. Also damn just remembered how Kino Robb was. The red wedding really was the climax of GOT
Why didn’t they just go with them being random peasants from Dragonstone whose great great grandmother slept with a Targaryen on her wedding night?
>>202076370>they cut Catelyn's and Robb's conversation about his will and Jon prior to itfucking hacks trying to white wash Catelyn, unironically one of the most kino scenes in the books and they removed it
>>202076370Seen this still posted a few times and I can never understand what’s going on with the map. It seems to be a map of Westeros (with what I assume is the Neck being shown in the bottom left corner), with another map partly covering it… and that second map shows a body of water island with an island in the middle so is that the Island of Faces?
>>202076202so jaime is just blackpilled?
>>202076370>Also damn just remembered how Kino Robb was. Barring his relationship with Talisa show Robbb > book Robb. I wonder how the war would have gone if he actually did end up capturing Casterly Rock like he planned to after the wedding.
>>202076409They should’ve. It’s a joke how poorly developed Dragonstone is (in this show). It’s just the castle and that’s it. The dragons don’t even roam around freely. They just inhabit some cave system that connects to the castle.
>>202076218> I WoUldN't Say fUmblEd GuySH
>>202076202>>202076465jaime's backstory is a complete retcon by GRRM, so many plot holes in it when you think about it for more than 30 seconds
>>202076333> If R+L=J was not true, then Ashara Dayne would’ve been mentioned at least once in the show, and the Daynes would’ve been fleshed out. And if Young Griff was supposed to be an important character, he would've been introduced in the show. Same with Lady Stoneheart. Either Game of Thrones did the plot like George intended or they didn't. Cherry picking whichever bullshit from later seasons is canon or not is ridiculous.
>>202076511What are you even saying? You don't think Aegon was portrayed in a sympathetic light in this season?
>>202074357>>202071910>What was the narrative reason for Aemond chasing Silverwing back to Dragonstone?> What was the narrative reason for Rhaenyra talking to Vermithor?>Lore development. It's very obvious that specific female Targaryen are very important to the whole Dragon stuff process, same as Daenerys. Rhaenyra talking to Vermithor is to contrast with Daemon failing to attract him in season 1, to show that Rhaenyra losing is the reason why Targaryens lost their dragons (either because she was carrying a magic gene or something similarWhy would it be that a woman's genes are stronger? The kingship descends in the mal line via haplogroup
>>202076538>so many plot holes in it when you think about it for more than 30 secondsSuch as?
>>202076541And if you weren't a retard you would realize it that would've made it so GOT went on for 12 seasons and D&D wanted out
>>202076611nta but he is right, that's also why Stannis died so fast
>>202076465Yes, basically. He looked up to paragons of knighthood like Arthur Dayne and Barristan, and then joined the Kingsguard (half so Aerys II could spite Tywin) and had to protect a mad psychopath.
>>202076055Gleeson was too based
>>202074462Based nigger
>>202076541it's been publicly stated that GRRM chose D&D because they were the only people he interviewed who correctly guessed Jon Snow's mom
>>202076596>whoa hey Ned easy there, I had to kill Aerys because he was about to blow us up. And that throne I’m sitting on, well I just got tired actually >well gee I’m really glad we got to solve that misunderstanding instead of seething at each other for 15 years. I will now idolize you like every other member of the Kingsguard who stood be as my brother and father were being killed (like Barriston, whom I love and respect dearly)I love Jaime and yes there is the whole “Stark judged me guilty as soon as he saw me” that Jaime is too proud to correct, but come on.
>>202076699Barristan was the head of the kingsguard he stuck to it until the king was killed and so his oaths ended
>the Chad D&D just closing the Meereenese plotline by having Dany come riding in and smoking everyone, and it fixes everything and she appoints Daario as the new ruler and just trust us that he’ll be a fine ruler and Dany now has no qualms about leaving for Westeros since her job here is done and slavery will never come back, just trust us>the virgin GRRM agonizing for 15 years over the stupid Meereense knot because he wants to get it just right and never delivering and growing to be hated by his fans
>>202076596>we know GRRM originally planned on Jaime being the bad guy and trying to become king, foreshadowed multiple times in GOT>doesn't become a POV until the 3rd book when his retcon back story is finally given>doesn't defend Rhaegar's kids after killing the mad king>for some reason he never tells anybody the true story>doesn't tell anybody about the massive amounts of wildfire that could get ignited by any random fire and destroy the city>personally hunts down the other 3 who knew about the plan, they could have escaped or set the wildfire off before he caught them. Why not tell everybody to search for them?GRRM decided to heckin subvert expectations by coming up with a completely retarded and illogical excuse for his actions
>>202076746Barristan was not Lord Commander during Roberts Rebellion, it was Gerold Hightower. Barristan was injured and captured at the battle of the Trident where Robert killed Rhaegar
>>202076694if true then GRRM is a dumbothere is much more important criteria for whether someone will make a good adaptation than whether they guessed some background lore mystery right
>>202076878>another Hightower fuck uplmao
>>202076836the whole "mereneese knot" thing is cope by him and readers who still make excuses for him, it's not that complicated to resolve. literally just do what the show did and then a small time skip to get everybody else in place. No clue why GRRM decided to become autistic about it when he handwaved plenty of stuff in the first 3 books. GRRM doomed himself when he removed the 5 year time skip
>>202076895Especially since it was the leading theory even at that time. It would take 5 minutes of googling about the books to find out about R+L=J and getting a forum thread about it.
Why didn’t the Kingsguard call for a time-out when Lyanna started having pregnancy complications and med-evac her to a hospital in Dorne? Did Ned refuse?
>>202076947What
>>202076874In hindsight, the real reason Jaime didn’t kill Aerys is a bit ridiculous >he literally would’ve nuked the entirety of the city if I didn’t stop him, saved a million peopleVery ham-fisted
>>202076977I mean the show didn’t so much close it as just tell the viewers that it was now fixed and to move on. That’s not really GRRM’s style.But on the whole, I agree completely. GRRM is a lazy fuck who has been lying to his fans for the last 15 years and there was clearly a 10-year period where he didn’t even touch Winds once, but hid behind these “muh Mereenese knot” excuses.
>>202076746he's sworn to the royal family, he should have accepted execution, the Wall, or tried to escape and helped Dany/Viserys because they were in charge after the mad king's death. He himself admits this in his POV
>>202076977I have a theory about this. I think George got extremely butthurt at the 2001 Worldcon when Storms of Swords lost the Hugo award for best novel to a Harry Potter book, and J K Rowling didn't even bother to show up to pick the award. This would also be around the same time he decided to remove the 5 year timeskip he initially planned after ASOS. I think after he lost to Rowling, George became extremely insecure about his writing which is why AFFC has lot more prose and he spent a lot more time with the books afterwards.
>>202075707I actually buy into that theory, so based
>>202077055even in the books what is there that is complicated. The WoW preview has Selmy riding out to attack. There are only a few variables but you know Dany will win via dragons and Greyjoys helping. Only question is really whether the dragon binder manages to steal one of her dragons and if she's forced to marry Euronpeople really overestimate how much is going on as cope for why GRRM is so slow. Main thing killing him is Arya and Bran's ages, he can't freeze everybody else while they age up which is why he needed the 5 year time skip so he could do his Jon and Arya incest kino
Haven't touched the books in years and gritted my teeth during Daenerys chapters, what's the Mereenese knot?
>>202074763The curse of the 4channer. Always ahead of the curve
>>202077094>lost the Hugo award for best novel to a Harry Potter book, and J K Rowling didn't even bother to show up to pick the award.Kek
>>202076447I think its a zoom in of the terrain in the riverlands, given the formation, probably just before oxcross>>202076433Also missing out on Robb naming Jon his heir, which was extremely based. >>202076470>wonder how the war would have gone if he actually did end up capturing Casterly RockI think the blow would have been a pretty huge symbolic defeat and embarrassment for the lannisters, and broke Tywin's illusion of power. It could have turned the tide but a big if anyways .
>>202077094I wonder how loud he would crow about it if it were revealed Rowling used a ghostwriter after the first one.
>>202077094And now Rowling is having her shit adapted a second time, in an HBO series. She’s also been getting a renaissance of sorts as some anti-tranny leader. The only L to her name really is that the Harry Potter spin-off franchise was cancelled and personally I don’t really care for the original movies.
>>202077179It's not that simple because George needs to come up with a reason why Daenerys had to take this massive detour in the first place. Her plot as he initially planned it was finished in book 1, she was just supposed to get dragons and then go back to Westeros and invade. There has to be some coherent epilogue to the whole sons of the Harpy/Quarth/Free cities shit. Did she try to abolish slavery and then give up? Is she not going to attack Yunkai again, hoping that now Meereen will be left alone after she leaves?
TAOOBA, WITH HASTE.
>>202077314>Also missing out on Robb naming Jon his heir, which was extremely basedThis. Robb telling Catelyn to sit down and shut up and naming Jon his heir must have made her shit her Tully britches.
still not accepting nigelaryons nigraryens
>>202077368>There has to be some coherent epilogue to the whole sons of the Harpy/Quarth/Free cities shit. Did she try to abolish slavery and then give up? Is she not going to attack Yunkai again, hoping that now Meereen will be left alone after she leaves?Boring shit plot. It's amazing how much better the books would be if you just cut out Daenerys chapters altogether.
>>202077243GRRM acting like intersecting plots lines and POVs makes it impossible to write a basic battle and then getting Dany to Westeros organically while events in Westeros are also happening. In reality it's really fucking simple>dany comes back with dragons, defeats slavers>5 year time skip>Mereen is somewhat stabilized, Dany has the ships and army to attack Westeroswoah that was fucking impossible and takes 20 years to write
>>202077243>Haven't touched the books in years and gritted my teeth during Daenerys chapters, what's the Mereenese knot?It's how George described the Mereen subplot in his blog. He didn't know how to make it so that Daenerys leaves and returns to the Dothraki while she also has to meet Tyrion, Quentyn, Victarion etc.
>>202077376i imagine Darkstar like this
>>202077406But…like will Victorian arrive first or perhaps Tyrion? Maybe brown Ben plumm gets delayed and dario nahaaris beats him to the punch? There’s just too many ways to play it
>>202077243It’s the retarded Meereen plot line and it’s in reference to how GRRM can’t seem to end that story because he keeps creating new little plots and boring useless characters no one cares about, hence the knot.
>>202077368It would be funny if the whole Slave Cities storyline, which was supposed to echo the Bush-era quagmire in Iraq and Afghanistan, ends on the same inglorious note. Dany realizing this is pointless and she’s just wasted a lot of time and money, and decides to fuck off no matter the mess she leaves behind.
>>202077243basically GRRM making up fancy words for his writer's block and his inability to make smaller concessions for the sake of the whole story
>>202077094>>202077248>>202077336reminder he seethed so hard that he wrote a blog post about Jaime brutally murdering 11 year old Hermione. GRRM is a fat schizo
>>202077403It is yeah, but he fucked up in the beginning with it so there's no turning back now. It was probably supposed to be even more expanding than what we got (with Daenerys going either to Valyria ruins or to Asshai to learn the origins of the dragon and this conflict between fire and ice) but George instead went with the boring slavery shit.
>>202075225Tiktok
>>202077499>Dany realizing this is pointless and she’s just wasted a lot of time and money, and decides to fuck off no matter the mess she leaves behind.That might actually make her likable.>Fuck it, not my problem.
>>202077499That’s kino
>>202077380>"BASTARDS could be here" she thought, "I've never been in this kingdom before. There could be BASTARDS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against her less than impressive chest. "I HATE BASTARDS" she thought. The House Tully theme reverberated her entire mule, making it pulsate even as the 9 silver dragons Arbor wine circulated through her powerful thick veins and washed away her (merited) fear of illegitimate offspring outside marriage. "With a mule, you can go anywhere you want" she said to herself, out loud.
>>202077465>he forgot to account for Quentyn flying in on ViserionRookie mistake
>>202077606>HE'S NOT YOUR REAL FAMILY, ROBB!>HE WAS REAL FAMILY TO _ME_!!
>>202077380>>202077681
>>202077521not sure what the fuck his editors were thinking by allowing him to completely fuck his outline by dropping the time skipyou now remember that feast and dance books were supposed to be a single book. GRRM has literally written 1 book in nearly 25 years and barely moved the plot. He was already in deep shit before GOT, that just gave him more excuses for procrastinating
>>202076168Is GRRM incapable of finishing his work
How hype were people on Battle of the Blackwater when it first aired?
>>202077719>Baelish and Sansa have been in the Vale since the Clinton Administration
>>202077571>>202077588I mean it’s where the books are headed.>Dany going “I’m fine with this, I like this. This is my kingdom now” on repeat during Dance>her mind suddenly breaking when she realizes some random twat has taken her throne in Westeros and she doesn’t really give a fuck about these dusty cities full of brown with stupid customs >”haha yeah my lovely Meereenese subjects, I’ll be back before you know it, I swear. Why am I taking the entire coffers with me… well uh…”
>>202077730>they left out the chainbookfags hated it and knew it foretold the doom of the show and were validated. show sloppers loved it because big CGI explosion
>>202076138I remember thinking that the Aegon fangirls were insane, I was busy being an Aemond simp. His only good scene was the coronation and over analysing that dinner scene other than that he was a repulsive character. Also picrel is how he looked like most of the timeMaybe that’s what Condal meant when he said the audience will change sides. He wasn’t lying
>>202077730Fanart of it was made before the episode aired, based purely on the book description of the battle.
>>202077728Yes. He will never meet peoples expectations, so the best thing to do is just to not finish. I don’t blame him I couldn’t live with that anxiety either.
>>202077794Cute Egg
>>202077719NOT EVEN 1 book, since most of the stories in AFFC/ADWD end in cliffhangers. By his own admissions, the giant battles in Mereen and Winterfell were supposed to be part of ADWD
>>202077767GRIM, I'm certain GRRM refuses to admit Winds is never coming because it would force him to give back his advance to his publisher. The fat fuck is shameless for leading his fans on this long
>>202077730It’s 10x more insane in the books but they’d never have had the budget for it. Burning carcasses of ships joining together to form an improvised bridge, full sea battle before the Wildfire trap is sprung, etc. Even people here loved the episode but I thought it came off as really low-budget with how small their tight the camera was on the characters. You didn’t never ever see the fully scope (even CGI) of the battle.
>>202077499This, people have been saying for years that GRRM only wasted so much time with this boring pointless plot because he got inspired post 2003 by the Second Iraq War and wanted to do his own version of the occupation of Baghdad style storyline.But the fat fuck forgot no one really cares about that war. He picked the wrong Iraq war. He should’ve gone with the Gulf War, it would’ve been kino seeing dragons as a stand in for jets btfo sandniggers in the desert.
>>202077406I think the five year timeskip would've fucked more plots than it helped, personally. and the meereenese knot was also caused by the fact that he was trying to avoid adding too many new POVs, but he failed and had to concede. that's why we suddenly get barristan for a couple chapters at the end of ADWD>>202075707they didn't include him because he would have destroyed jon and dany in popularity
>>202077771>Dany tells Mereen to go fuck itself and steals all the money to fund her war machine Mhysa bros...
>>202077854Preston is fond of saying that Dance and Feast feel weird because they don’t have an ending, and yeah… GRRM couldn’t have cucked his fandom harder if he tried.
>27 years old
>>202077728Well, if he had 50 years in him he would. But he's a 75 year old fat white and fat white men don't live to 100. They just don't. And those that do make past 85, their cognitive decline renders them incapable of even handling bills.Allegedly there's about 1000-1100 pages of Winds finished and done. Which leaves about 500 more. He might finish Winds. But he really is living his last decade.Sad, it really is. If the series was finished and finished strong - his endings are very melancholy and pensive (Unsound Variations, Sandkings, Under Siege) - it really would go down in history as the example to live up to fantasy writers of the future.
>>202077794Yeah, we've seen in last episode already that Rhaenyra is going to become the second Daenerys with the way she didn't give a shit about all those peasants dying in the fire, she's gonna become obsessed about this prophecy shit and then burnt Aegon will put her out of misery and we'll be rooting for him because he went through so much shit. Trust the process, let Condal cook!
>>202077928Where's the rating for seeing a white person with dreads in any setting?
>>202077890
>>202075229Only book readers know who Nettles is,she hasn't been established as a character in the show,so it would be weird if she just appeared.
>>202077794Book readers: aegons is so fucking good in the book, idk why they wrote him like this he has so much potential Normies: ummm he was even worse in the book? You’re just a rapist aegon is total shit and so are you!>showrunners start writing Aegon like he was in the book Everyone: OMG I LOVE HIM NOW
>>202077949He crossed the 3/4th point for Winds in 2022, if you put any stock into what he says. With nothing since to divine whether or not he is making good progress, or has torn up another 500 pages to rewrite. I don’t understand how he couldn’t write the last 1/4th in the last 2 years, but oh well.
>>202078005He started a full rewrite last year.
>>202077996Everyone is good in the book. Even that wretch Cole is a complex, compelling character that we might only have caught a glimpse of when he surfaces from eating a pussy once or twice in 2 seasons.
>>202078028Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, hehe. Right George? Right?
>>202077977the writing being in english really took me out
>>202077977Why did they write this in the common tongue of Westeros?
>>202078102Maybe they were Westerosi slaves?
>>202078005he claimed he thought he could hit his publisher's deadline before GOT passed his books in 2016. GRRM is full of shit on his claimed progress, the fact he hasn't deleted this blog post is amazinghttps://grrm.livejournal.com/465247.html>My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.dude LARP'd like he thought he could be done in 2015
>>202074357me on the left
>>202078102how else would tyrion understand the message?
>>202078119That's Jorah's fault to be sure
there is a theory that Alicent is just pretending to negotiate with Rhaenyra in order to buy time for Aegon to escape, that makes more sense than her actually betraying her family
>>202078153Aren't all high-born nobles in Westeros trained in High Valyrian? It's like their Latin
so where would one find this ep8 leak
>>202078005>>202078028>>202078054Even the rewriting stuff is a meme, I bet. Often exagerated by fans to make it seem like he's this perfectionist who wants to create a genius book, even though there's plenty of examples of him being sloppy in his writing. Plus, rewriting usually means touching up on stuff you already wrote, not deleting everything and starting from scratch. I chalk up to him just being lazy and tired. I'm only 31 and already tired of working, I can't even imagine how he feels at 75. He already has the story in his head but actually sitting down regularly at a computer and writing pages and pages of fluff instead of just masturbating and eating and being rich? It's just too much.
>>202077996It resulted in more Helaegon fanart and fanticsI’m satisfied
>>202078129His NotABlog was so much better when he still allowed comments.I am dying at some of these. How many do you think still feel the same way?
>>202078178Well, yeah, he's a fucking slaver, even if he was just selling off criminal filth and Ironborn scum.
>>202078219archive
>>202078129I just hope when he's gone we get the real story of what happened with Winds:>He was just lazy>He actually had a lot of trouble figuring out the ending>The books were done years ago and he sat on them to support his wife once he's gone>He lost motivation to write the main story>He got too distracted with Targ history shit>People's reaction to his real ending (the show's ending) made him rethink his entire plot
>>202077961>>202077996>Condal and Hess are actually onto something It feels bad to hand it to themBut please like Aegon and Helaena share 1 scene even if it’s him calling her an weirdo again
>>202078198The cast did a “what character are you” game that was uploaded about half an hour ago. There was a question about what character you would want to save and she said Helaena, but she still said Aegon is saveable but Aemond isn’t. I don’t think Alicent would write off Aegon, Gwayne and Daeron like the piece of the episode we have seen would suggest. Aemond she has washed her hands of absolutely but the others no way. There is more to this.
>>202078257I'm sure two committed suicide during Covid, and the other two don't read fantasy anymore.
>>202078257Does ASOIAF have the most spineless, sycophantic community?
>>202078219Do you want a QRD or the actual clips?
>>202075257seasmoke taking another rider implies Laenor died off-screen
>>202078338Those guys are a minority now. Patience has a limit
>>202076131Older actors play younger characters all the time. He still looks young and Jaime can be aged up a bit of needed anyway like how almost everyone was in GoT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otw2LuO6lnI
>>202078257The biggest problem with his fans is that they can't admit George is a lying hack. Like in that blog post, George is feeling bad because he couldn't finish the book in one year, like the implication being that he was super close to done. But in reality, he didn't write even half of the book yet, so he was just shamelessly lying. Similar thing happened with ADWD. At the end of AFFC, there's an author's note saying that the next book will come next year. Every rational person would think this means he's almost done with it, just finishing touches remain. But instead he spent 6 years and the final product doesn't have proper ending.
>>202078257cucks deserve it, bullying works and GRRM would have finished it by now if people didn't defend him for so long. Reminder that Neil Gaiman who defended GRRM being slow by saying "GRRM is not your bitch" is currently being exposed as a serial rapist
>>202078257His Twitter has lots of nasty comments apparently
>>202077996book Aegon is cruel and angry. show Aegon is love starved and jarringly pathetic
>>202077692>>202077380>>202077606>>202077681Why do you think GRRM made people in Westros so anti-bastard? in the real middle ages it didn't even matter that much. Hell a bastard even became king of england . Definately many others that escape my knowledge, but point is it didn't really matter that much.
>>202078257I wonder how these people would feel if we told them nothing had changed nearly a decade later
>>202078437good
>>202077961> Trust the process, let Condal cook!please consider sudoku
about to finish up The Mystery Knight tonight and then cry that george will never release another novel set in this world
>>202075224>I will I never be a Targaryen prince who was sent to bed this mountain lesbian and spend all day eating her coochie and drinking wine to form a political alliance.
>>202078384What the fuck did Ewan do in that audition…
>>202078362
>>202078458>Why do you think GRRM made people in Westros so anti-bastard?Superstition and the Blackfyre rebellions just made the anti-bastard stance even stronger.
>>202078386Makes me think of people who still cope that “he had the books almost finished” but then his feefees got hurt by the reception to the HBO ending (which likely has nothing at all with his ending anyways, or at least the way we get there) and embarked on a rewriting odyssey. When the reality is he was never close. He has never come close.He gave himself a 5-year vacation after finishing Dance and has never been able to get back into it again since.
>>202078458Bastards have always been shunned in some capacity. It establishes publicly that the parent or parents are completely irresponsible and reckless. And for women it's a stain that never really washes away.
>>202078458>Why do you think GRRM made people in Westros so anti-bastard?I blame that on Andal law of succession. Cutting bastards out of the line means fewer direct challenges to succession. That's why what Aegon IV did with his platoon of illegitimates was so devastating later.
>>202078384>"i wanted to put an underrated actor in a lead role">he gets sidelined along with all the other diversity hires
>>202078577>which likely has nothing at all with his ending anyways
>>202075250kek
>>202078563Whip out his dick and scream about Nuncle living too long, probably. He came up in an acting workshop, he has zero shame.
I still think this is the best scene from the final episode.
>>202078648> Whip out his dick and scream about Nuncle living too long, probably.Do you think I could get my hands on that tape?
>>202078648sounds like you have experience...
>>202078680i feel so bad for jace. imagine having to interact with mongrels
>>202078624Only the rough lines of Bran’s ascension to king has been confirmed, which is fine in itself (as long as it’s properly led up to).The rest of the season had nothing to do with GRRM’s writing:>the Others all die off when Arya epically stabs their king (there isn’t even a Night King in the books)>the big bad is actually Cersei in the end (when it’s already foreshadowed that she’ll lose control of King’s Landing in Winds)
>>202078680Nice reminder that Targs would view all of us as subhuman mongrels
>>202074857My god imagine those perfect lips gliding over your wetted cock
>>202078697Maybe after he's dead. I don't have direct experience but from what I've heard about UK acting workshops they're draconian about things that would make SAG blush.
>>202078758My wife Halaena thinks I'm cool
>>202075969The Dance should've been about Jace versus Aegon
>>202078680>>202078725>>202078758You all are completely missing the point Jace is seething because he know's he is a mongrol himself. But he was supposed to be special . He was THE mongrel. Now if any bastard borne can claim a dragon and become a rider, he's essentially a nobody. His whole life's cope is falling apart before his eyes. tldr: its over for Jacebros
>>202078859>He was THE mongrel.he is a prince.
>>202074804George has nothing to gain by being nice to Preston. He has a lot to gain by kissing HBO's asses.
>>202078859He wont have to seethe about it for very long....
>>202078781> they're draconian about things that would make SAG blush.What do you mean? That acting workshops let their students push the boundaries more?
>>202076138Is it a fumble? I think they're trying to make you like Aegon or rather they're trying to present him as a likable villain by making him vulnerable and have him constantly take Ls
>>202078859This change is so dumb
*Does literally nothing for two seasons*
>>202078859>He was THE mongrelLol
>>202078866no he's a bastard pretending to be a prince
>>202078930it's an absurd change to make for a character that got on well with several of the dragonseeds in the source material, but taken in isolation it's pretty solid i m o.still shouldn't have changed it
>>202078866right , but there's nothing that really makes him more a prince than any of these dragonseed, other than the mummer's farce his mother concocted and forced on everyone. One that nobody really believes. Its a paper thin defence if say, Hugh , Ulf, or any other dragonborne were to challenge it, and now they have bigger dragons too to add insult to injury. He's in an extremely precarious position.>>202078876hindsight is 20/20, anon>>202078930What change, this much is book accurate. even if its not explicitly spelled out as much
>>202079007He wasnt seething non stop about the sneedsHe created the sneeds
>>202076699You can just check the first outline of what GRRM wanted. >Joffrey wasn't a bastard>He would've married Sansa and put a baby in her>Jaime would've killed Joffrey and framed Tyrion for it. >Jaime takes the throne>Tyrion joins with the Starks but falls in love with Arya who is in love with Jon who is also in love with her (but it's cool because they find out they're cousins not siblings)>Bran v Jon that ends with Bran taking the throne
*Dragonseed not dragonborn lmao
>>202078950>hey Rhaenys, remember when I was a charismatic Chad who sailed all the way to Asshai and became the most celebrated sailor in all Westeros>*does all his sailing off-screen, even though he’s constantly going from Dragonstone to Driftmark*
>>202078950He just had the same conversation with Alyn like 5 times at the exact same location at the exact same time of day for the whole second season
>>202078866>he is a prince.he is just as much of a prince as those other bastardsthey were children of a legitimate royal Targ but conceived out of wedlock, just like Jace
>>202079041I’d say what we got is an improvement.
>>202079038He does in the show too, but yeah they decide to add the caveat that its Nyra that extends the offer to low born I think this actually makes Jace look smarter, though
>>202077179>people really overestimate how much is going on as cope for why GRRM is so slow. Main thing killing him is Arya and Bran's ages, he can't freeze everybody else while they age up which is why he needed the 5 year time skip so he could do his Jon and Arya incest kinoThere's an easy solution. Switch the Jon-Arya incest kino to Jon-Sansa incest kino.Jon/Sansa is already the biggest ship in ASOIAF on AO3Jon deserves a big titty ginger wife to breed that looks like a prettier version of his step-mother that disdained him. Lots of issues he can iron out through sex with Sansa
Why are there so many women ITT who are seething about Jace being the crown prince? Baela literally calls him the crown prince in the last episode, why does this upset you so much?
>>202078257>>202078129he's basically picrel nowHBO's basically his retirement fund at this point so there's literally no merit into finishing the books
>>202079182i'm guessing its aegoncels
>>202079182>believing a black's words
>>202077243>>202077406>>202077488>>202077504I don't really get the mereenese knot excuse though. At this point if he just wronte ' and danny nuked mareen in dragon fire. Fuck it all , lets move o to Westros'and the main story line, nobody would care.just cut through that bullshit with a knife and be done with it.
im so demoralizedthere was a time when i'd be excited for all the announced spin-offs, but condom is attached to dunk and egg and will probably ruin that and the other shit coming in the pipeline once he's done defecating on hotd
>>202079182who's seething? i said is that he's in a tough position now because of the dragon seeds which is just true
>>202079306It's not that nobody would care, it's that he would care if he did something that lazy. It's why he seethes about dragons having 4 legs on the Targaryen banner in HOTD
I don’t understand how people can still say George is motivated by money, when it’s so obvious that he’s so much more allured by the fame and the glitz and glam of being behind a famous TV show.George barely even spends his money. He still lives in the same boring New Mexico house, which looks like an average upper middle class suburban home. He’s too fat and old to live it up and party around the world, jetting around on a private plane. To my knowledge, the only thing he splurged on was renovating that independent bar / movie theater which was a small passion project for him.George would suffer a lot if you took his fame away (which he is why he is greenlighting all these new shows no matter the quality, to stay in the public light) than if he had cough up his advance back to his publishers.Also don’t forget he doesn’t have any kids so he knows that anything he doesn’t spend dies with him.
>>202079348> been on their period lately espressoWhat did he mean by this?
>>202079360Yeah I've lost any interest in Dunk and Egg. They are going to hamfist the ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' all over the three respective stories and how Dunk needs to be a good man because he has to protect the future king and not, you know, because he's just a good man (while being absolutely stupid).That's what makes me seethe so much. Tying these stand alone stories and prequels to the main series - which was butchered anyway - just sours character arcs, their motivations and stories.Human heart in conflict with it itself, for fucks sake. George keeps on repeating this mantra in every other interview. Not human heart in conflict with future that may or may not pass.Fucking hell.
>>202074462>>202074857Now that the dust has settled, are these anons correct? Is Jace really biracial? That's how the thread started, that's how it should end. Is he 1/4 black?
>>202079400>. He’s too fat and old to live it up and party around the world, jetting around on a private planeThats literally what he is doing
>>202079400im so blackpilled. reading the mystery knight right now. I just want more of this world man. I want D&E finished all the way through aegon v's death. I want winds, dream and possibly even a potential 7th novel, something like A Time For Wolves, maybe between winds and dream. but its never gonna happen. some hack like sanderson will finish dream with georges notes but it wont be the same. it'll never be the same.
>>202079400Nah there will be heirs. He has sister and I bet those sisters have children.Nieces and nephew will inherit his estate. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the emerges as the talking canon-head like Christopher did.
>>202079488Not really. He’s traveling to Scotland for Worldcon and swinging by to London, but I think that’s it. The most traveling he does is to go see the HotD sets, maybe attend an awards ceremony, and then scram home.
>>202079475>Is he 1/4 black?I mean he's on team Black, isn't he?
>>202079539>>202079539>>202079539NEW
>>202079503Nuncle...
>>202079488He was shamed out of doing them for not finishing the book
>>202079524He's been traveling around Europe for about a month now. He was in Netherlands like two weeks ago.https://www.instagram.com/p/C9xk_0fgDEa/
>>202079460>Tying these stand alone stories and prequels to the main seriesThis was true in the books though. Bloodraven is Bran's mentor, Brienne is Dunk's descendant, Tywin ends up as Aegon's cupbearer, Rhaegar is born at the Tragedy of Summerhall, Walder Frey shows up in Egg's adventures etc.
>>202079579Well fuck
>>202078859>its over for Jacebrostime to kms I guess
>>202079579He looks old… never see him like this before. He’s getting skinnier too, not a good sign.
>>202079653Yes but it's vague and very loose. It doesn't drive character motivations. We just get to see these connections.
>>202079691Reading his Not A Blog during COVID was depressing. Like every two weeks it was a eulogy for some friend from 70's that he lost.
