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Queen of /film/
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>>204051325
I appreciate your interest in opera, but I want to clarify that I don't actually have personal preferences, still I'd be happy to provide some suggestions for operas you might enjoy based on the ones you've mentioned liking. Here's a list of operas that go beyond the most well-known "entry level" works and might appeal to your tastes:

Comic operas:
"L'italiana in Algeri" by Rossini
"Don Pasquale" by Donizetti
"Falstaff" by Verdi
"Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" by Wagner
Tragic/serious operas:
"Madama Butterfly" by Puccini
"Eugene Onegin" by Tchaikovsky
"Otello" by Verdi
"Tristan und Isolde" by Wagner
Other notable operas:
"Der Rosenkavalier" by Richard Strauss
"Dialogues des Carmélites" by Poulenc
"Pelléas et Mélisande" by Debussy
"Peter Grimes" by Britten

These suggestions cover a range of styles and periods, from bel canto to verismo to modernist works. They include both comic and serious operas, as well as some that blend elements of both.

Would you like me to provide more information about any of these operas or suggest additional works? I can also offer recommendations tailored to specific composers, periods, or styles if you have particular interests.
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>>204051638
The problem with opera is that no one writes new stuff anymore, it's always the same ten works repeated over and over ad nauseam. I think that Nietzsche described this phenomenon as "the idolatry of the old".
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Queen of /film/
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Tarantino named this the best film of the last 50 years.
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>>204051796
Based. What a muse
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>>204051818
But it's mid.
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Dark science, cloning, secrets only the gays knew...
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>>204051882
Frfr no cap? Yo
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>>204051856
>dances his way to your waifus heart and womb
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>>204051823
The guy who cares about this has already left.
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>>204051950
ok
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>>204051496
Yes

>>204051796
Repulsive
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>>204051638
Thanks for your effort post. I have admittedly seen half of these but I'll watch the ones I havent. Thanks a lot! This has helped me greatly
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>>204051796
tub o' lard, comin' thru!
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>>204051930
Damn that guy sure is fine, the flex pose at the end is the cherry on top.
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>>204051796
Bau-tiful.
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>>204051496
Man she is so much cuter than her sister, what I call the genetic lottery
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>>204052006
>effort post
It's AI. Then again, it should be no surprise that it's vastly more useful and civil than the average /film/ post by "humans" is.
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oh what a wonderful movie
why do animefags fall so hard for Akira when this is ten times better?
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>>204051496
Based Gishbro.

>>204051796
6/10
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>>204052254
You can like more than one film
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>>204051818
I think both Tarantino and his fans are legitimately so fucking awful that I genuinely feel bad for liking some of the stuff he likes
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>>204052288
They are very retarded yes.
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>>204051818
It's a banger, not even close to being top kino. Doesn't 'Tino love capeshit too?
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>>204051325
Love Edmund Gwenn and Charles Coburn in The Devil and Miss Jones.

>Gwenn: You got the lowest passing score of any applicant
>Coburn: I answered all the questions
>Gwenn: You may have answered some of them incorrectly.
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>>204051909
just not my cup of tea lil bro
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I think Battle Royale is just an alright movie but that ending hit me hard. Sometimes it feels like the whole purpose of it was to show you pic related during the credits to make you feel kind of sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86l3liv_dws
Also that song
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>>204052288
Tarantino is great and is responsible for preserving so many films that were totally forgotten and lost. Just his stamp of approval alone can make an obscure film popular
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>>204044583
I’m gonna watch this tonight. Hopefully it’s good.
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FROM QUENTIN TARANTINO'S PERSONAL 35MM COLLECTION
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>Bergman theatrical
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THE FILM THAT INFLUENCED RICHARD LINKLATER

A NEW 4K REMASTER SPONSORED BY MARTIN SCORSESE

SCANNED FROM THE ORIGINAL CAMERA NEGATIVES

AND OVERSEEN BY THE CINEMATOGRAPHER'S GRANDSON
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>>204052276
sure, but I've never seen anybody talk about it. Even SteamBoy, which is a major bore despite the super high animation budget, is more talked about.
Roujin is so funny and charming I watched it twice in a row.
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>>204044200
skip her and move on to Duras
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>>204052521
Mah boi Kitano coming in wit da drippppppppp
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>>204052580
>abstract Haneke
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>>204052729
Ugly deformed hag.
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>>204052729
>metaphysical Bresson
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>>204052605
THE CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED MASTERPIECE THAT INFLUENCED BONG JOON-HO

NOW IN AMERICAN THEATERS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
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>>204051818
Off topic, both the man mentioned and the film mentioned
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>>204052802
>pic
Ann-Margret was proto-TikTok dancing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3cBTb3xPc
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>>204052941
Tbh I'd rather have Battle Royale allowed than Tsai, Carax or whatever the fuck meme director you people here pretend to like
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>>204052802
EXCLUSIVE FIRST LOOK OF THE ACCLAIMED BEST PICTURE CONTENDER
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>>204052999
Dear tourist, watch some Tsai then come back.
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>>204053031
Yeah, watch the gay shit and then properly join the gay club
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>>204053042
>enters gay thread
>complains about gay movies
where's the logic here
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>>204053042
Memes aside, Tsai's pretty damn good
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>>204052999
Back to more bedtime stories and QT podcasts for you
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BASED 88 films dabbing on woke critics on the actual cardboard

>the kung fu meme is for real
>intellectual counterfeit destroyed forever
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>>204052755
Best quit talking shit about my mom, anon.
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>>204053031
>>204053157
Fuck off. Gatekeeping this thread is the silliest thing, like there's barely any discussion about actual classic and arthouse cinema going on
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Has this leaked yet?
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>>204053221
grandmother*
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>>204053226
That's all they have for a personality here. No one's interested in discussing anything anymore. You have an opinion a regular doesn't like? You'll get the downvote treatment, that's the ''discussion''.
It's a general shitposting all the time.
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>>204052999
Directors have found that a /film/ meme will spread to the outside world. See turbo normie youtubers now talking about Tsai. My theory is that Tsaiposting is from Tsai himself, Caraxposting is from Carax himself. Packard and Gallo posting is from themselves. In our new age, he who becomes a meme becomes the champion.
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>>204053455
fucking kek
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>>204053427
Honestly I went too hard on those anons and the thread. You are the only people I can talk about films with and the only reason I even open up 4chan these days
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>>204053226
Gate’s closed, sorry bro. You’re not allowed in here.
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>>204053455
Korine was entirely forgotten, but once he started being talked about on /film/, we suddenly got a Gummo 4k release, a Mister Lonely release. /film/ controls the culture. Our influence is immense.
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>>204051325
whats the most kino ghost movies
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>>204053455
/film/ invented Tsai
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>>204053455
Carax and Gallo have always been insanely popular though. I mean as far as contemporary arthouse cinema goes. But I swear I'd never even heard about Tsai before Tsaiposting became a thing here
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>>204053455
I would not doubt that Gallo frequents 4chan.
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>>204053568
I've never seen a single ghost movie I truly liked but people think The Changeling (1980) and The Haunting (1963) are good
Oh, I liked the Ghost of Yotsuya (1959) but the actual ghost only appears towards the ending
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bish yo crazyyyy
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>>204053631
Dude cmon Stray Dogs was pretty big in arthouse circles on release
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>>204053568
Kwaidan (1964)
The Ghost of Yotsuya (1959)
Séance (2000)
The Haunting (1963)
The Devil's Backbone (2001)
Poltergeist (1982)
The Uninvited (1944)
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>>204053718
Me on the right when I see Tsai irl
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>>204053212
This nibba got talent, for real. He's overrated and underrated at the same time
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>>204053568
The Phantom Carriage (1921)
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>>204053226
Where's the gatekeeping? I told you, go watch some Tsai then come back. That is gatekeeping for you? More like you got intelectually gatekept with that reading comprehension of a 7 year old.
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>>204053776
Cool list, never seen Devil's Backbone and Uninvited though. Didn't like Poltergeist
Also I don't know if it counts but Carnival of Souls (1962) is pretty great. From the modern ones also Dark Water (2002)
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>>204053631
Tsai has always been big, bruh
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>>204053855
Well you did assume I was a tourist. But I guess you are right because I'm still allowed to come back lmao
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>>204053718
Ngl, I'd use that throat.
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>>204053749
>>204053885
From what I understand Tsai made one film that went big which is Goodbye Dragon Inn but it faded into obscurity and no longer appears on the 'greatest 2000s films' lists
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>>204053885
Not really any more than Hsieng, Yang, Yanfan and Ching. This is a paid PR campaign from Tsai himself.
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>>204053900
>Well you did assume I was a tourist.
Just joking, and anyway, what has gatekeeping to do with tourist-ism?

>But I guess you are right because I'm still allowed to come back lmao
You're goddamn right.
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>>204053972
>Yang
Well I don't know about Yang himself but Yi Yi is a very popular film
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>According to They Shoot Pictures, Don't They, a website which statistically calculates the most well-received movies, it is the 16th most acclaimed movie of the 21st century.

/film/'s influence is IMMENSE.
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Tsai was already a festival darling in the 90s. The reason he has started sliding into total obscurity is because he chose to focus on the art gallery grift after making Stray Dogs.
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>>204053900
>I'm still allowed to come back
No you’re not. I just locked the gate. You’re trespassing on this property, get out.
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Enjoying the Tsai talk, I’ve been meaning to post some short reviews of my chronological watch again but haven’t found the time. It’s also October now so my watching is going to be horrorshit dominated for the next month, so I need to do it
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>>204054092
I found it a massive bore. Shots that go on for five, ten, even twenty minutes that could accomplish the same in two.
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>>204054431
>plotfag
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>The movies that we know today are so dominated by storytelling. My question is: is film really only about storytelling? Couldn't film have other kinds of functions? This question brings me back to my own experience of film watching. It's very rare that I remember the story of any film. I usually only remember a certain moment that touched me. Take Bresson's Mouchette—after Mouchette is raped, she has to go home to feed her sister. She's carrying this bottle of milk, but she can't find matches to warm up the milk, so puts the bottle inside her coat. A very simple movement, yet it really moved me. Of course my films have something like a story. But I direct my attention to daily life and living. In our own lives there's no story, each day is filled with repetition. Movies today feel like in their two hours they have to tell a story so they're filled with indexes and indicators to point to the completion of a story. The audience has gotten used to it. I think film can be more than just that. I believe that the stories of my films can all be told in two sentences. Like in The Skywalk Is Gone: Lee Kang-sheng and Chen Shiang-chyi walk past each other but don't recognize each other. That's it. I'm trying to remove the dramatic elements from the story to disguise it. Film and reality are different, but by removing that kind of artificial dramatic element, I believe that I'm bringing them closer.
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>Many have argued that cinema must not be about storytelling. However, the filmmaking conventions usually presuppose that directors are good storytellers. But I never thought of myself to be a good storyteller. Therefore, I chose to be otherwise. I explored widely the early cinema classics and was stunned by many silent films. You should all see F.W. Murnau’s films, and Carl Dreyer’s La passion de Jeanne d’Arc (The Passion of Joan of Arc, 1928). Murnau’s films are extraordinary. No spoken language, just the power of the image. It was not until I’d discovered Murnau’s cinema that I’ve had the impression of perceiving the true meaning of imagery. I have explored many moments of the history of cinema and studied different approaches to cinema like formalism, symbolism, etc. But it is only after I discovered the cinema of Murnau that everything became clear.
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>Just now another journalist pointed out to me: “There’s never a script to your films.” I asked him in response: “Do you think a film must have a script?” He answered with some exasperation: “Yes, of course!” This serves to prove my point that cinema has been industrialized, commercialized nowadays. Within that structure, there’s not much room for creativity anymore. So we actually need to re-think what cinema is under such circumstances.
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>>204054510
I honestly forgot that Mouchette got raped in the film, only remember that she killed herself Damn, really dark film
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>>204054510
>>204054537
Based Tsai.
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>>204054510
>>204054557
My king! I KNEEL!!
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You people are pathetic
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>>204054510
>>204054537
>>204054557
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>>204054636
This will never not be funny.
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>>204054636
If this is the cinema he wants then I'm noping the fuck out
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>In all my 20 years and more of film-making career I always really disliked writing scripts (he laughs), because I feel it has only two functions; one is that other people are able to understand and work with you and the other one is actually to make the investors able to understand what they are investing in. Beside that, film is just film, screenplay it’s not, screenplay is more like a draft. I never worry about finishing a script because in all my films I start shooting before I finish the screenplay, it is an on-going process. Also, I never depend on the film industry to make my own films. In recent years – because my approach is more free – I focused on making my own films and being far from the industry style. For example, in the film industry you must have a story, a narrative story, but in my more recent works is more about how you see the film. My approach is more about visual art and forms, it’s not about “you have to hear a story by watching a film”, it is rather “just watch the film”.
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>>204054557
>>204054537
>>204054510
I hope no one internalizes this rubbish. If you're a rich nepo baby yes anything you film will be accepted as art. The rest of us soldiers of cinema must live and die by the audience, who demand storytelling, plot and invisible craft, aka, immersion.
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>>204054537
>You should all see F.W. Murnau’s films, and Carl Dreyer’s La passion de Jeanne d’Arc
Dreyer and Murnau films have stories though?
>No spoken language, just the power of the image
Right, used to tell a story, is he an idiot? Lmao
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>I also paid a lot of attention to my framing. What comes first is that the framing must be good looking. However, the meaning of it should not be single-layered, but multilayered. I want it to be beautiful and sustainable to a lengthy gaze. It doesn’t serve the plot in the first place, nor does it convey any particular diegetic message. Rather, it is an image for interpretation, an image that helps the audience understand the intrinsic meaning and the inner world that I intended to convey.
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>>204054851
Tsai on that pseud shit
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>>204053455
And what of the waifuposters?
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>Lee Kang-sheng is a very talented actor, but he has this very serious, ridiculous melancholy. It’s actually very funny. On the outside he’s really cool, but there’s something I find very funny. I’m always trying to make things as real as possible. Perhaps I’m afraid of making a sad person appear too sad. Too sad is funny. I can’t bear it in certain types of films, where an actress will just really go for it.
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>>204054690
The gate has been sealed.
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This is my recommendation for the thread : )
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>>204054798
I have the perfect hack for you, ready and gaping his obese asshole wide open for you
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>Let me tell you another story. There was one time when I was invited to an event organized by Professor Wenchi Lin. In that public appearance, a bureaucrat asked a group of secondary school students, with a five-thousand NT dollars prize as reward for the answer, “How much box-office did Cape No. 7 create?” No one answered. He then asked another question with a two-thousand NT dollars prize: “Who is the boss of cinema?” One student lifted his hand and said, “me.” He then got his reward. But I stood up and said to the student, “You shouldn’t take this reward because your answer is wrong. I am a film director and you are not my boss.” Now, I say, you can choose not to watch my film, but you will never be my boss, nor will I be yours.
Was it autism?
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>After watching my film in Cannes, one Hong Kong critic called Face “nonsense,” and said my work was narcissistic. But another friend of mine who lives in Hong Kong, too, told me that he couldn’t sleep after watching my film. Why? Because to him, every single shot of the movie expresses a passion for filmmaking. Watching the whole movie is thus like making love for two hours. I think this is quite an interesting expression. But I know that most people tend to agree with the critic. They announce the death of cinema because the films have no marketing value.
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>>204055232
Chinese people are wrong in the head.
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>>204055198
>instantly starts thinking of grotesque gay fantasies
Antiplot fags, everyone
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>>204055305
You really put the cock into Hitchcock, plotfaggot
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>>204053217
>the one-armed swordsman

ayo aint this the movie tsai jerked off to in cinema
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Why are director fanboys so deranged?
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>RS: Your films are all very funny, except perhaps The River…

>Tsai: I think The River is very funny.

>RS: Okay, okay—maybe it's just the ending that isn't so funny. But do you find the humor in your films translates well, especially given your rigorous aesthetic? The humor seems really indebted to Buster Keaton and inheritors of that tradition, like Tati.

>Tsai: Well, there are always people who “get” my humor and those who don't. It's pretty much the same everywhere I go. But you're very right when you bring up Buster Keaton-for me he's is one of the greatest comedians. Today, I don't know if comedy still exists. I think the best comedians are always those that have the least expression which is why I don't find Jim Carrey particularly funny, and why I strive to keep my actors expressionless. It's always the situations that characters find themselves in that make things humorous.
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kinda hate it when people make threads that should be inside /film/ not in outer /tv/
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>>204055305
I guess Hitch was a plotfag, but his plots are always so forced and predictable lmao... One of the most overrated directors ever, if not the most imo. Technical mastery does not a kinomaster make.
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Any directors with a similar style to Sokurov?
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>>204055465
lol, gatekeeping much? The flood is coming out... /film/'s influence is IMMENSE!
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Jess Franco or Jean Rollin?
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>>204055485
The damaged negative/800 MB DVDrip style?
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>>204055525
Jean for sure. Jess' porn was based but Jean is actually an underrated auteur. He was a /hor/ auteur, but sometimes crossing over /film/ I'd say
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THE ORIGINAL CAMERA NEGATIVES
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Another day, another endless rehash of autists spamming their gimmicks. Fuck's sake, it's depressing.
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>>204055616
Love you too.
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>>204055232
Hahahahaha, this can't be real
>>204055549
AKA ethereal style
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>>204055555
This.
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>>204055616
And the nigga/lil bro ones haven't started yet tonight, it'll get worse
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>>204055616
Less crying, more reporting. And btw, today's gimmicks are balanced and pretty much enhancing the thread. No nigs or lilbros
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>>204055469
>his plots are always so forced and predictable lmao
He is a thriller director from the classic generation. And by classic I mean like started during the silents, of course his stuff feels formulaic now
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>>204055632
Leefag and waifufags >>>> nigga/lilbroposters
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Don't be surprised if in the following years John The Violent receives a Criterion restoration and finds its way into Sight & Sound's greatest films of all time list. /film/'s influence cannot be overstated.
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>>204055638
Yep, that's why I think his plots are too easy man. Didn't age the best. North by Northwest straight up James Bond film.
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>>204055669
Call me when Tsai makes the top 100.
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>>204055638
/film/ acts like they're too sophisticated for Hitchcock or other classical Hollywood directors. But these threads show non-stop they might be too stupid for them, actually.
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>>204055669
That will only happen after Han Ye gets restored by Criterion and given subtitles.
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>>204055669
That would be gigabased. That film is insane and needs some love. Same with other obscure shit that we discuss on here. It may be possible.
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I'm afraid some of you are deluded enough to unironically think this super secret club has influence
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>>204055669
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>>204055700
>>204055720
John.
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>>204055685
Not like that. It's just that Hitch seems way too overpraised to me, he's just entertainment. He gets Kubrick praise for what were western tier joints.
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>>204055731
Yes.
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>There is a flood of images today. But we can’t turn the clock back. I watch TikTok and find it terrifying. We are losing the concept of a big screen and our aesthetic values.
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>>204055485
Not nearly enough
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>>204055720
Eventually it will have real influence. Just wait and see. Do you think every influential thing started being gigantic since the beginning? Cahiers was probably 3 autists at the start.
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>>204055778
Homophobia aside, he's right here.
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>>204055679
>North by Northwest straight up James Bond film.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/cary-grant-almost-changed-james-bond-forever/
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>>204055625
This. So much this. One million updoots!
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>>204055736
Great entertainment is not something easy or to be scoffed at. Hitchcock made great suspenses from the 30s to the 60s.
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>>204055740
Thanks
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>>204055778
What is this screenshot from?
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>>204055485
zzzzzzzz
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>>204055856
LMAO
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>>204055856
Never said it was easy to entertain, just that his plots are very simple. Anyway, I think there are more entertaining joints from his time, including James Bond ones.
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>>204055884
It's from a short film directed by Lee. It's part of an anthology film called Taipei24H (2009)
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>>204055814
I'll be waiting, don't forget to call me when it happens.
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>>204055920
NTA but as far as thrillers from the 30s-50s go, not really
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>to praise Hitchcock is a controversial position to take on /film/
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>>204055985
I feel like /film/ is more of a New Wave and beyond thread, I've realised that all of the classic directors are mainly mentioned to be shat on lmao, Ophuls and Hitchcock being the recent examples
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>>204055985
Eh, it's a bubble of like 30 people.
People praising Taylor Swift on /pol/ will be attacked, people praising Tucker on Reddit will be attacked, people praising The Birth of a Nation or Gone with the Wind on letterboxd will be attacked, etc.
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Hitchcock has good films (Vertigo) but then also has absolute shitters (Rear Window)
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>>204055720
So many /film/ memes are already spreading into the broader film scene. Practically every single online review says "slop" now, something that began on /film/ to talk about generic hollywood films. Then I went and posted about Tsai in r/truefilm and got six upvotes, it was like a secret handshake.
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>>204056192
>Practically every single online review says "slop" now, something that began on /film/
LMAO
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>>204056184
It's unfathomable someone could praise Vertigo and then think Rear Window is a 'shitter'
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>We may have been misunderstanding film. Often we believed that art is a form of storytelling. A cinematographer I worked with told me afterwards that he learned about framing from filming my long shots. He told me that previously he’d been filming lies. What we take away are the images, not the story. I believe that long, slow takes allow us to get closer to reality.
Bazinpilled.

>>204055985
Hitchcock is very good. Of course films don't always need a plot or a story, but a well-told one can still be very entertaining. He's one of those who got me deeper into cinema in the first place, and I'll always hold dear the Hitchcock/Truffaut interview book.

>>204056098
>People praising Taylor Swift on /pol/ will be attacked
As long as what's being attacked is just their taste in music, they had it coming.

>>204056184
I like Rear Window except for the silly climax.
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>>204056246
Rear Window is incredibly dull looking, turn off the sound and you may as well be watch paint dry.
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Next y'all say /film/ created based and kino
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>>204056184
Rear Window is one of my absolute favorites and I've seen all of Hitchcock
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>>204056285
Nah, just me.
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>>204056250
>Of course films don't always need a plot or a story

This nonsense again. Yes film needs plot, story, likeable characters, and conflict. All because you can point to two people like Warhol and Brakhage who do laser light shows, doesnt change the inherent nature of cinema.
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>>204056309
>and I've seen all of Hitchcock
Based completist. I'm coming along soon to 40.
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>>204056415
SPIELPILLED
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>>204056417
That's a fuckton of films, nice. I haven't seen The Pleasure Garden though because the restoration still hasn't been released
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>>204055948
Ok.
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>>204056415
>likeable characters
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>>204055974
I meant: in the wider spectrum of kino, there were more entertaining things happening at that time.
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100 years from now, they'll realize that cinema only really began with Rebels of the Neon God as Lee Kang-sheng graced the silver screen with his beauty.
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>>204056415
>Yes film needs plot, story, likeable characters, and conflict.
Needs them for what?
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r/asianmasculinity has invaded /film/
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>>204055985
Not controversial, most people here verbally fellate him when necessary. It's better when people question the canon than when they blindly accept it. Blind acceptance is what has made Tarantino's joints a household name, yet he was never that guy
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>>204056593
I'm not seeing the Huppertposter.
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>>204055974
rofl
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Spike Lee > Tarantino

Unironically.
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>>204056415
>film needs plot, story, likeable characters, and conflict
HAHAHA, OH WOW
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>>204056900
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>100 years from now, they'll realize that cinema only really began with Rebels of the Neon God as Lee Kang-sheng graced the silver screen with his beauty.
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>>204056593
>r/asianmasculinity
This exists? lmao
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>>204056960
>that hairline at 28
Oof.
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>>204056960
I would rather end myself than wear such a disastrous hairstyle and stache.
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>>204056640
Don't even think it's a debate among film buffs
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>>204056948
Hong Kong 97. Obscure game, based knowledge
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>>204056960
I guarantee this guy fucks ass
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>>204057065
>Obscure game
The AVGN video has 11 million views.
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>>204056960
https://letterboxd.com/film/pretend-that-you-love-me/

Joel is an acclaimed filmmaker. What the fuck have you accomplished in your life?
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>>204057126
No one plays it, no one talks about it outside of the AVGN / obscure games community
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>>204057065
It's not really an obscure game anymore. The phrase 'a herd of fuckin ugly reds' has been living rent free in my head for ages
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>>204057152
Hi, Joel.
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>>204057161
I don't think you understand what obscure means.
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>>204056613
Because I’m white and other anons posted rice steamer screenshots.
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>>204057231
>Because I’m white
lol, sure
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>>204057179
Obscure af when compared to shit like Elden Ring, Pokémon, etc.
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>>204057152
I am an acclaimed filmmaker too and dont have to rely on woke pandering to youtube retards either
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>>204057222
Yes I understand, do you? Why get condescending?
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>>204057296
Hi, Vincent.
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>>204057222
There was also a game called Taiwan 2001 and it's truly obscure and also anti-Chinese
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>>204057300
>Yes I understand
Then stop fooling around.

>>204057345
Now this is obscure.
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>>204057368
This criteria of yours is "you don't know what is obscure: what is obscure is what I determine to be obscure, don't you know it?". Dumbass stuff. Ask the local normie gamers about Hong Kong 97, 99% chance they don't know about that game.
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>>204057416
Nah, I did. They know.
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>>204057309
Unlike Gallo I dont retire because of mean internet comments, I work harder because of them to prove them wrong. My latest film has 8/8 on RottenTomatoes and just played in Venice, all at a budget of less than $10,000. It also utilizes no mumblecore aesthetic and no digital cameras to speak of.
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>>204057434
Yep. I'm utterly shocked by my ignorance. Goddamn. Sorry.
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>>204057440
Based reply, I respect it. This guy's a winner.
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>>204057440
Gigachad. What film? I'll go through all films that played at Venice this year and check their RT pages and budget info if I have to.
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>>204057557
Gib name
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>>204057576
Hey don't ask me, I dunno yet.
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>>204057516
>>204057557
>>204057576
lmao you guys don’t remember? get ready…
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>>204057653
Oh, now I do. Booooring.
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>>204057576
>>204057557
>>204057516
Here is the trailer
https://youtu.be/GqhCamvzLHE?si=5ggYGKO6309nq37t
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>>204057687
>claims there's no mumblecore aesthetic
>plenty of mumbling in the trailer
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>>204057687
I'll watch it, thanks. You have an "official" link to the movie? lol
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>>204057750
Nevermind, torrenting rn
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>>204057687
Post tits.
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>>204057749
>>204057750
>>204057774
>>204057779
Fools.
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>>204057882
I just realized. Not torrenting rn
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>>204057687
LMAO you barely made a flick
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>>204057992
That joint was made by a woman, bro. You just got pranked.
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>>204058035
yea i bet you fat lena dunham made that shit
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luve me sum Fellini pizza pasta eyy
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>>204056900
>October 2, 2024
A day before my waifu’s 75th birthday. So close…
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>>204056948
>>204057065
WO AI BEIJING TIANANMEN
TIANANMEN SHANG TAIYANG SHENG
https://youtu.be/HA5vn_ho8f0
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>>204059008
New gimmick incoming, big bro?
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>>204053962
Always thought Rebels of the Neon God was his mainstream crossover hit since it seems taylor made for the WKW crowd. Same thing with Hou and Millennium Mambo
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>>204059382
eyy im glad you recognized me
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>>204059395
did the wkw crowd really exist yet at that point tho
rebels came out before chungking and fallen angels made him big
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>>204053568
The Innocents and Uncle Boonmee
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>>204059395
well it was his debut film so he was trying to make a hit. the film is not like his others. he only got weird after.

>>204059565
Wong stole everything from patrick tam, watch love massacre and eternal rose, you will see where he got most his trademarks
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>>204053568
Goodbye Dragon Inn
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>>204059879
I wish he kept using that John Carpenter type soundtrack in his further movies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8urigjsCdNw
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>>204053568
the others
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>>204059335
corr

new meaning to the phrase

blow up
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finkinn one fing about blow up is you can defo legitimately watch without sound coz the imagery is so strong it really conveys the meaning of the film without hearing him talk about shidd
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>>204060257
It was dull. Neither of them are kino speakers, and they just repeated talking points we've heard a thousand times already.
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>>204060296
go 2 sleep lil bro
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KINOOOOOO
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>>204060575
Off-topic, you know what to do.
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>>204060587
Tell you to kill yourself.
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>>204060575
how do people even sit through such trash
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>>204060973
Different tastes, different things people want from media
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>>204060575
not classic, not arthouse

getouttahere
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What are some /film/ horror movies I can watch. Don't say Fulci or Argento.
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>>204061681
Make me :)
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>>204061807
men was great
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>>204061807
Films of Walerian Borowczyk
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>>204061807
Fulci and Argento
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>>204061807
the superior Bava
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>>204061827
Feminist anti-men garbage
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>>204059449
How could I not recognize you?
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>>204061807
Daughters of Darkness, read the thread. And also Last House on the Left, not /film/, but very interesting.

>>204061848
Dude isn't even horror, good rec nonetheless.
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>>204061807
There is no /film/ /horror/ crossover retard

MUH THE SUBSTANCE

No. Women cant fucking direct.
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>>204062319
>Women cant fucking direct.
Brother I prove you wrong
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One of you replies with the poster image.

>The World of Kanako
>2/10
Amongst the worst joints I've seen in my cursed life, this piece of shit is a terrible anti-masterpiece. Photography: ugly and grey, editing: pathetic and distracting (Resident Evil webm inspired?), tone: uneven, plot: dumb and incoherent, aesthetics: Tarantino's worst nightmare. Got tricked into watching this shit by one of you fucks, suck my dick. Kamikaze Girls was much better, and that's not saying much.
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>>204062319
watch more movies you sub 2k watchlet
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>>204062451
I've been avoiding this because it looked like tranime/Sono garbage, thanks for confirming
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>>204062514
Sono inspired garbage*. Think Love Exposure but directed by Tarantino and Tarantino's indian and made the movie in Bollywood.
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>>204062572
>>204062514
>>204062451
Filtered
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>>204051325
have they produced any good movies?
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>>204063074
Do they even produce films? I just remember their Yung Lean and depressive black metal mini documentaries lol
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>>204061827
>Men was great
doubt.jpeg

>>204061848
Was going to watch Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osborne last year. Thanks for reminding me.

>>204061880
>the superior Bava
Based. Maybe.

>>204061896
Not watching Zionist trash.

>>204061964
>Feminist anti-men garbage
You make it sound good.

>>204062305
>Daughters of Darkness
Good idea, need to finish watching that.
>Last House on the Left
Craven is complete shit.

>>204062319
Is The Substance even supposed to be a horror movie? It "borrows" from Carrie, Society, The Shining, etc but never feels like a horror movie. At most you could argue "psychological thriller" but it kind of feels more like standard sci-fi than anything. I guess the scenes when Demi Moore is cooking and Dennis Quaid is eating shrimp are horror-y. Incredibly shitty movie.
>No. Women cant fucking direct.
It's her nationality, not her gender. You mean "The French can't direct".
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>>204063158
they produced A girl walks alone at night
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>>204063165
>Craven is complete shit.
I don't usually say this but, filtered. Giga filtered. indeed. He's one of the best in the horror game.
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>>204052521
i LOVE battle royale.
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>>204063296
He's a hack. Completely awful. Nightmare on Elm Street is the worse of the big three slasher films, and maybe the 2nd worst film in the franchise.
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>>204063439
Don't agree. Last House, Elm Street, Scream and Hills are amazing. I do think that Elm Street series is overall very solid when compared to something like Friday the 13th. I've seen until The Dream Warriors and like them all. Part 2 is very underrated.
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this has been one of the most boring threads in a long time
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>>204063831
Then make it fun. Lacking in niggaposting / lilbrosting for you?
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>>204063610
>I've seen until The Dream Warriors and like them all
You're missing out. The Dream Master is probably a worse movie technically speaking but it may be the most fun. The Dream Child is REALLY bad but it continues the story of Alice (The Dream Master protag) and I can appreciate on that basis alone. Freddy's Dead is okay, it goes all in on the comedy but it's fairly inoffensive. Haven't seen New Nightmare.
>when compared to something like Friday the 13th
The good thing about Nightmare is that it's a very flexible premise. And every film builds off the previous one organically (except 3 with 2) so it feels like a more cohesive series. Friday has like a very loose continuity, but it works in its favor. I used to think Friday was a complete shit series too but its really grown on me. I'd say only 2 of the original Paramount films are really awful.
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>>204061807
Argento and Fulci
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>>204063165
>>It's her nationality, not her gender. You mean "The French can't direct".

It is so off-putting, not only how bad she is at filmmaking but how much people reward her for sub-par craft. We are living in hell this modern day cinema is turning me into a Christfag.
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>>204063972
>is so off-putting, not only how bad she is at filmmaking but how much people reward her for sub-par craft
>modern day cinema is turning me into a Christfag.
What could the relation possibly be
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>>204063926
You're probably right on Elm Street being really good, but Friday part I and II felt super overrated to me. Will still watch them all eventually (I hope so). Hellraiser also not so good in my book. Child's Play on the other hand...
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>>204063926
>I used to think Friday was a complete shit series

In terms of horror franchises it is up there as the best one. If you exclude J-horror which mogs all western horror.

1. Friday the 13th
2. Halloween
3. Chucky
4. Saw
5. The Conjuring Universe
6. Hellraiser
7. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
8. Paranormal Activity
9. Candyman
10. Leprechaun
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>>204063972
>It is so off-putting, not only how bad she is at filmmaking but how much people reward her for sub-par craft.
Welcome to planet Earth, brother. We reward complete shit in here, because the masses relate to it. Make something good and you're instantly put into the "artsy shit for fags and women box", and hated because of people envying your talent but being unable to accept to themselves that they suck and are unwilling to change. We got cookies in here too!
But seriously speaking, make a difference, voice your opinions. Don't accept the shit that your environment is trying to force on you, in fact, actively fight against it when confronted by it.
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>>204064094
lol friday fucking sucks. only x and freddy vs jason are the only good ones from that franchise.
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>>204064094
Where are Scream and Elm Street, man?
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>>204064094
>Leprechaun

Now I know you are trolling, even horror fans treat this as the butt of a joke.
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>>204064057
>You're probably right on Elm Street being really good
Well, I like the series, the first movie not so much. I just really don't like Craven's work.
>but Friday part I and II felt super overrated to me
>Will still watch them all eventually (I hope so).
Does Part I have a good reputation? Genuinely asking, I wasn't aware that it did. I've come to like it but thought it was boring and shit for a long while. Part II I feel is like the "ideal slasher" in some ways. My favorites are 2, 5, 7, 8. Three is good too. If you struggle with Three at first, hold out, stick with it. It'll be worth it in the end.
>Hellraiser also not so good in my book.
Really? What don't you like about it.
>Child's Play
Haven't seen any. Can't do dolls. Feel like I'm gonna end up maybe forcing myself to watch them though because I've seen like every other slasher at this point, and Brad Dourif is great. It'll be difficult to get through but may be worth it.

>>204064094
>2. Halloween
>6. Hellraiser
>7. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
>10. Leprechaun
Yeah, going to assume this is a troll post. But I will say Hellraiser 3 and Texas Chainsaw 4 are underrated.
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>>204064160
Yeah Elm Street is up there at least above Chucky. Freddy Krueger is the OG. Scream though, shit that is a meme, the whole shtick wears out fast.
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>>204064311
>Does Part I have a good reputation?
It was a big box office hit and is revered by horror fans.
>I've come to like it but thought it was boring and shit for a long while.
It is shit, not that boring imo, though. It's got some vibes due to locations and shit, but overall it is late to the game with how old it ends feeling. Shit feels like it came in 1974.
>What don't you like about it.
Just feels very bland. The "hell" concept is all it got going for itself. Feels really generic for me. Much prefer something fucked up like Society.
>Haven't seen any. Can't do dolls.
It's very fun. Part I at least.

>>204064312
>Scream though, shit that is a meme
Part I is based and a 90s classic. Curious to watch stuff like I Knew What You Did Last Summer due to it. Saw was also cool.
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>>204056415

Well well well well well well well, what do we have here?
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Someone bake.
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>>204064459
>Shit feels like it came in 1974.
I can see where you're coming from in the sense that early 80s stuff had a 70s vibe still. At the point it came out there had already been a ton of Halloween rip-offs, yes, but I do feel like Ft13 is transformative in a way. It's not just ripping off Halloween but Jaws, Carrie, and Psycho too. There were a lot of bland Halloween rip-offs between 78 and 80, Friday is the only one that spawned a major franchise. Slumber Party Massacre spawned a minor franchise, but both wound up with derivatives of their own.
>The "hell" concept is all it got going for itself.
I'm not even sure which part you're referring to here.
>Much prefer something fucked up like Society.
Society is good but I feel like its not that "fucked up". I've hated every other Yuzna.
>It's very fun. Part I at least.
I enjoyed the remake/reboot.
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>>204064708
It's at 297, go fuck yourself
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>>204063165
>It's her nationality, not her gender. You mean "The French can't direct".
The French are the women of nations.
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Good night, /film/
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Bump
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>>204065226
Women are the french of gender
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>>204066732
Women are the Jews of gender.
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this general is so cooked without lil bro/nigga posters
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>>204067720
>lil bro/nigga posters
The French of /film/posters
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>>204064899
304
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>>204067720
>ricecel discord raiders gave me stockholm syndrome
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Yup, I’m thinking /film/
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>>204068693
This is borderline experimental
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>>204068693
High test kino
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>>204055638
That's not how it works.
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Fuck it, I’ll bake.
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>>204069090
make it satanic
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>>204069106
>>204069106
>>204069106
>>
NEW
>>204069099

NEW
>>204069099

NEW
>>204069099
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>>204069116
NOT REAL NOT REAL NOT REAL
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>>204069118
Sorry, I’m going with the KINO edition >>204069116
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>>204069118
>>204069116
hahaha
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>>204069134
>if I close my eyes it doesn’t exist!
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>>204069145
The NOT REAL edition. Check the timing.
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>>204069160
Check the timing, tranny.
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>>204069169
>>204069192
Don’t care, do what you want but it was posted ITT first and an objectively better OP
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>>204069254
I always go by first posted on split threads, except if it's some ill-intentioned one.
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>>204069254
Cope and seethe, tranny.
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>>204063074
Your Vice is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key
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>>204064459
>Shit feels like it came in 1974.
You say it like it's a bad thing.
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>>204069118
Come join us in the REAL new thread, anons.



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