Arthouse and classicsSmoking edition>/film/ chartshttps://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ>/film/ literaturehttps://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlAPrevious: >>204384528
>>204403394
based bake, Harriet is the new queen of /film/
>>204403394Diamonds rn
>>204403441It's weird because the internet says they are like 5'8 but even western women who've been to Japan say they are taller than most men there. That also reminds me that Kurosawa was B I G
Queen of /film/
>>204402853definitely, you don't understand the genius of Bergman unless you are past 30. His subjects will just be totally alien otherwise. He is like Shakespeare how he is telling you thoughts you never knew you had that you experienced IRL
Bergman is aight
>>204403604God damn he really was a 5'5 manlet. LMAO TARK A SHORTY
best Bergie, change my mind
>>204403394Smoking really does make women look sexier. And it makes dudes look cooler. Cigarettes would be so based if they didn't kill you.
I feel bad for not liking Bergman films that much, I've already mentioned it some time ago in these threads but all of his pictures feel exhausting to watch for me. They are not very long, usually like 95 minutes long but feel like 3+ hours. And I need a break after each one. And I'm not even talking about watching 2 in a row or something like that, I mean even the following day you think>Oh no I won't be watching another Bergman todayAnd the worst part about it is that I do realise he is great, at least because there's nothing like a Bergman film, as in you are watching any of them and you know it's HIS film, impossible to replicate. With someone like Hitchcock, you could tell me Shadow of a Doubt was made by someone else and I'd believe you if I didn't know. Or vice versa. tell me Night of the Hunter is a Hitchcock film, well you get the point
>>204404232Night of the Hunter is better than anything Hitchcock did.
>>204403394Fuck I love this shot
>>204404270I don't think I agree but I get how someone would think that, it's peak classic thriller
>>204404232Have you been divorced? Have you struggled to raise a retarded child? Had you lost a parent or threatened to kill someone after he screwed you in a business deal? Bergman like Bob Dylan is for weary souls. On the surface it makes no sense, but then one day it clicks because you have lived it.
>>204404270One of my least favorite arthouse classics
>>204403747I did a revisit of every Tark a few months ago, maybe I need to do a revisit of Bergman now and also finally watch a few that I missed.His filmography is pretty big though. And I always regret rewatching films when I think that I could’ve been watching something new and discovering a new filmmaker.
>>204404435He is great enough and had so many movies that you can watch them chronologically, they are almost all great
>>204404232>I feel bad for not liking Bergman films that muchGood, these threads aren’t for you, leave
>>204404409You think it's necessary to live through that stuff to enjoy depressing films?
>>204404270Absolutely
>>204404511Why?
>>204404547No, but I’m trying to appeal to an obvious retard who won’t enjoy films otherwise
>>204404575If you get filtered by entry-level Bergman, you ain’t cut out for the deeper waters of arthouse
>>204404216Is the high even worth it? I've tried every kind of drug except cigarettes?
>>204404419Why?>>204404547Some life experience definitely helps when watching shit like Bergman otherwise you don't really have a frame of reference for what he's putting out there
>>204404216No, Jew, there is nothing sexy about worthless disgusting trash. Kill yourself Jew
>>204404232Just watch The Serpent's Egg.>>204404409Bob is usually G shit, but sometimes he's boring. Bergman kinda be like that, too.
>>204404547Not really, but you probably need empathy, some introspection and appreciation for the aesthetic. Many retarded people in the world lack those qualities.
>>204404664Siddhārtha did not need to personally experience the four sights in order to be moved and transformed by them
>>204403858
>>204404617I can smell this post.
>>204404841Like cigarettes and scotch, a patrician scent
>>204404638Of course it's not worth it.>>204404692I'm not a jew you jew.
>>204403171>Roy Andersson
>>204404617I don't believe there's such thing as 'entry-level' and I hate when directors are referred to as that because it sounds disparaging
You're all so short. My estimation of /film/ has plummeted.
>>204404788He did have to personally see them with his own eyes though aka life experience
>>204404176Most overrated one.
>When it premiered at the Venice Film Festival in 1940, none other than Michelangelo Antonioni wrote, "If this is propaganda, then we welcome propaganda. This is an engaging, penetrating, extraordinarily effective film."
>>204405427Wrong it’s his most underrated one
>>204405473Wow! Some famous white guy said it 80 years ago so it must be true!
>>204405577>italians>white
>>204405594fair point
>>204405577No, I just find it asuming that a marxist like Antonioni would praise a nazi propaganda film.
>>204405216>see them with his own eyes Like watching a film
>>204404547I was a young man in 1995, a time when I was in a rush to become a cinephile. I forced myself to attend screenings of classic films that I couldn't hope to understand. Taking an entry level 101 film class, I decided to write an essay on Ingmar Bergman movies. The professor was surprised, he was used to his students writing about Spielberg, or movies like Twister and Independence Day. So I went to the library into a private room and put on the Scenes from a Marriage VHS tape, proceding to take notes to try and understand his metaphors and themes. But ultimately I was making a fool of myself. This was the wrong way to do it.Fast forward to being an almost 50 year old man, a time that I read Shakespeare for fun. I got into Bergman again, and am seeing an entire different filmmaker than I was back then. Sequences in the Virgin Spring, Through a Glass Darkly, and Autumn Sonata, I have lived these moments, gotten divorced, had traumatic fights with my elderly parents who are stuck in their ways, and dealt with a cousin with schizophrenia. I could only nod in recognition and understand exactly what Bergman was trying to communicate in these movies. It is like the quote, life is what happens between making plans. Point is, you should not forc yourself to appreciate these films if you get filtered by Bergman, there is no need to be in a rush to become a cinephile, it is a lifelong endeavor.
>>204405682>Fast forward to being an almost 50 year old manlmao
>>204404955I'm a big boy.
>>204405594
>>204403394If she smokes, she pokes.
>>204405682>50 year old posting on 4chan /tv/Please tell me this isn't real
>>204405682Look at this fucking guy.
>>204405945>multi-paragrap postWhat do you think?
>>204406023Because anything that takes a bit of effort to post must be fake lmao the state of filmovich
>>204406056ChatGPT really broke every single zoomer.
>>204406056Where do you think we are?
>>204405945>>204405797It's real, but keep in mind that there are few places to have unfiltered discussions about film today. I used to go on the IMDB boards way back until it got shut down. Social media constantly devolves into dick fights, and letterboxd and reddit are toxic sludge. You shouldn't be surprised that some of us Gen X'ers gravitate to this forum as it is one of the last places left that you can talk shit about movies the way we used to during the early internet days.
>>204403394>mid girl in picture/film smokingbetamales go reeeeeee
We're all uncs here.
Where does the 'gotten divorced' pasta come from?
We're all smokers here.
>>204406238From experience, son.
>>204406238It's not pasta
Imagining some middle aged dude sitting on his computer reading all the braindead nigga and lil bro spam in these threads is really funny to me.
>>204406259I mean, two people have mentioned it when talking about Bergman, made me think it's something like 'intellectual counterfeit money' (Godard) and 'solemn and humorless' (Antonioni)
>>204404409so basically Bergman films are for the parents of lil bro posters
>>204406322I sometimes stumble upon various forums like the Blu-ray.com one where people talk about /film/-related stuff, and everyone there writes like they are at least 40. Here on /film/ even the most 'intelligent' posts don't feel that way
>>204406238>>204406259In the past, girls stayed in marriages cause men had the dominant position within the genders. Now, men stepped aside and while women are still not dominant, men aren't either. And now that girls CAN survive on their own as long as men maintain all the public infrastructure, "girls don't need no man."Girls also stayed in marriages back then even if they get bored, but now, with all the casual sex and attention they can get online, there is no point staying with a man that she only married cause she saw the wall. Majority of men are, 90%, are betamales that girls only marry after she hits the wall.
>>204405663No bro in person
wtf is a lil bro
>>204404955I'm 5'7"
>>204406718a john
>>204406688Welles could probably eat them both.
>>204406718>>204406733 is a lil bro
>>204406688What is this, the hack convention?
>>204406748He is so fucking fat it's unreal
>>204406807
I’m 4’11
>>204406688
Good god these last few threads are moving fast.
>>204406894Hitch could eat half, then take the other half up his gaped obese asshole
>>204406853cute ;)
>>204406768This one >>204406894 definitely is
Please tell me this is an elaborate joke and zoomers don't actually think this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVvHTbqip5M
>>204406405Cumgenus NEVER posts in lowercase. Imposter!
>>204406894One of these do not belong
>>204406845>how do we sell our candy?>let's just get a picture of a washed-up film director holding itIt truly was a different time.
>>204406845Thin Orson Welles.
>>204403394Kino.
>>204406989Yeah, Jarmusch is a boring hack.
>>204406958>58:16
>>204406958>1 hourI ain't watching that, but anyone who thinks modern Hollywood-style acting is naturalistic must be autistic.
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>>204407192The language of cinema connects us all.
>>204407192I don't understand, wouldn't it mean different viewing experience between the Chinese and the rest of the world?
>>204407021Easily the best of his generation and genuinely impressive how he managed to stay relevant in Hollywood
>>204407341Precisely. There’s inherently a different viewing experience, Tsai is forcing the issue.
>>204407341There's barely any dialogue in the film. A few lines. One or two are in English anyway.
I'm watching ''The Passenger'' by Antonioni, what will I think of it?
>>204406471I always write like I speak in real life.
>>204407594You will love it and jerk off to Maria Schneider. By the way, Jack Nicholson's commentary track for the film is one of the comfiest ever.
>>204407594Equivelant of John Woo and Tsui Hark hollywood films. Foreigners making western films has never worked even once.
>>204407594Depends, Antonioni films are certainly not for everyone. I love it immensely like most of his films
>>204406471It’s the reason I stay here- everything is anonymous, more “real” talk and thoughts than anywhere else, for better and worse.
>>204407837lmao dont act like Zabriskie and Passenger represent Antonioni films. They are roundly mocked fiascos.
>>204407878The Passenger isn’t, wtf you talking about.
>>204407651>"and here's that one bitch I fucked.">"theres that other bitch who gave me head.">"I have no idea what this movie is but isn't it a hoot I'm in it?"
>>204407878Not a big fan of Zabriskie but Passenger is 100% an Antonioni film. I love him and I love Nicholson, it's one of my absolute favorites from the 70s
>>204407878>>204407975I love both films, but sure they’re not as celebrated as his trilogy. Who cares?
>>204403394i love smoking but i'm starting to have an upset stomach more frequently. honestly might quit
>>204408060Never seen The Passenger, but Zabriskie is amazing. I also would like to recommend More by Barbet Schroeder to Zabriskie lovers, as it's quite a similar film to Antonioni's.
Fellini, Kurosawa, and Bunuel move in the same field as Tarkovsky. Antonioni was on his way, but expired, suffocated by his own tediousness.
>>204408122Don't quit, anon.
>>204408188I don't understand what Bergman meant by that because he hated Bunuel, but in that quote he seems to be praising him?
Who is better Bergman or Fellini?
>>204408122I smoke like crazy with Crohn's
>>204408139>Zabriskie is amazing. It's okay but it suffocates under its own tediousness as the anon said. It also has a soundtrack by Pink Floyd. Cringy movie.
>>204408508did it cause chrohn's or did you have it already. i was a sickly kid and i feel way better now, for the most part. but i've been smoking a ton and it's been ok for about a year but been getting the runs more frequently>>204408269we'll see i probably won't
>He is enormously intuitive. He is intuitive; he is creative; he is an enormous force. He is burning inside with such heat. Collapsing. Do you understand what I mean? The heat from his creative mind, it melts him. He suffers from it; he suffers physically from it. One day when he can manage this heat and can set it free, I think he will make pictures you have never seen in your life. He is rich. As every real artist, he will go back to his sources one day. He will find his way back.
>>204408560If you feel like it's causing troubles then definitely quit. In the long run it really does fuck things up >did it cause chrohn's Nah, my aunt had it. But I do feel that smoking helped to 'activate' it sooner, though I've had stomach problems ever since I was a child
>>204408441Bergman is cinema's own Shakespeare. Fellini isn't even on the level of Pasolini. He is a showman, an entertainer.
When talking about Bergman I think the story about him raping his wife from the draft of his autobiography is worth mentioning.He writes about having an argument with her, hitting her in the head with a stool, pushing her to the ground, hitting her head against the floor and then "being inside her".This is not just something he did but also something he felt appropriate to write in his memoirs. It didn't end up in the published version and I think the editor had something to do with that.
>>204408795>Film is not analysis, it is the agitation of mind; cinema comes from the country fair and the circus, not from art and academicism
Bergman misogynistic
>>204408910Honestly Bergman did seem like someone who'd do something like that
>>204408910Do you have a source on that or are you trying to slander a dead man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMDwLiG2sQc
>>204408910>proceeds to complain about the way Hitchcock portrays women
Bergman raped HIS WIFE???
>>204408953Based.
>>204409106https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/bergman-a-year-a-life-bergman-ett-ar-ett-liv-1111535/>The film unearths an early draft of his book The Magic Lantern that included a description of an episode involving his girlfriend Karin Lannby in which Ingmar almost killed her, though it was finally edited out of the book before it was published.>>204409172Turns out it was his girlfriend, not his wife.
>>204407192Subtitles are anti-performance, anti-image, and anti-cinema. If you've only watched a film with subtitles, you haven't really seen it. A skilled director can make a narrative film perfectly understandable even if you don't know the language. THAT is what it means to communicate through the language of cinema.A director who doesn't reach that level is closer to filmed theater than cinema. Kitano, Švankmajer, Tati, King Hu, Bresson, Melville, Frammartino, Zeman, Tsai, and Dave Fleischer don't actually need subtitles, and neither would Bay if you couldn't understand English. This shows true understanding and mastery of the art form. Enemies of cinema deny this, as they flirt with the muses of literature and theater. Though there are some exceptions by even these great directors, as few are that skilled from the start. Of course most people have been brainwashed, so they are too afraid to try and watch truly great films unsubtitled. None of the silent masters really even needed intertitles.
>>204408557Not tedious imo, and Pink Floyd is alright. What's cringy about it lol
>>204409168Women suffer in quite a few of his films so I guess that's what he has in common with Hitchcock
>>204408774yeah i'm starting to feel run down. moved to new york less than a year ago, been drinking and smoking a lot. i've got a bad cough right now and yeah my stomach could feel better. i have only been smoking since i got here, feel like i could get better if i stop now
>>204405910>>204407017>>204408122>>204408269Kill yourself you evil Jew scum
>>204408560>>204408774>>204409473Kill yourself Jew >feel like i could get better if i stop nowIf you die the world will be better
>>204409479>>204409522>hates jews>is on /film/How is this possible? Everything we talk about is jewish
>>204409479>>204409522Brother, you're aware that your gimmick is super stupid and boring and literally contributes nothing to the thread, right?
>>204409479Telling people to kill themselves is just as evil as anything you accuse Jews of doing
>>204409676Way more evil than smoking, that's for sure lol
Bergman, Polanski, Hitchcock, Godard, Gallo - you need to be a piece of shit to create great art. A goody two shoes like Truffaut simply isn't capable of plunging into the dark depths of the human soul and thus never rises above mediocrity.
>>204409536I only watch superior German Aryan cinema for the ubermensch: Lang, Wiene, Sternberg, etc
>>204409745What did Hitchcock do
>>204409536>>204409536It's a spambot that posts the exact same thing in response to any single pic of people smoking in any thread on /tv/https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/Kill yourself jew scum /
>>204409839He was a proto-Weinstein
>>204409839>In Spoto's third book about Hitchcock, Spellbound by Beauty (2008), Hedren revealed that Hitchcock actually made offensive demands on her. "He stared at me and simply said, as if it was the most natural thing in the world, that from this time on, he expected me to make myself sexually available and accessible to him – however and whenever and wherever he wanted.">Hedren then told him Marnie would be their last film together and later recalled how Hitchcock told her he would destroy her career. "I said I wanted to get out of my contract. He said: 'You can't. You have your daughter to support, and your parents are getting older.' I said: 'Nobody would want me to be in this situation, I want to get out.' And he said: 'I'll ruin your career.' I said: 'Do what you have to do.' And he did ruin my career. He kept me under contract, paid me to do nothing for close on two years.">Hedren herself was asked why her account of sexual harassment contrasted with the many interviews she gave about her time with Hitchcock, her presence at the AFI Life Achievement Award ceremony honoring him in 1979, and her presence at his funeral. She explained that, "He ruined my career, but he didn't ruin my life. That time of my life was over. I still admire the man for who he was." She also said, "I've been able to separate the two. The man who was the artist. I mean, what he gave to the motion picture industry can never be taken away from him and I certainly wouldn't want to try. But on the other side, there is that dark side that was really awful."
>>204409852kek
>>204409852Oh shit a new ragebait bot by Hiro
>>204409385>None of the silent masters really even needed intertitlesThis is very true.
>>204409288>Turns out it was his girlfriend, not his wife.Well, in that case it was wrong of him.
>>204409889>>204409915Yeah the Hedren story is well known, just wonder if there was anything else
>>204409745>who is Spielberg>who is Ang Lee>who is Wes Anderson>who is Jacques Demy
>>204410012BASSSED
>>204410012lol
>>204409852Is this reportable?
>>204409915Yes but Hedren was also an insane person who lived with lions and put her kids in danger.
>>204410012Spielpilled
>>204409385So what you’re saying is Michael Bay is a master and Bergman wasn’t?
>>204408910>He writes about having an argument with her, hitting her in the head with a stool, pushing her to the ground, hitting her head against the floor and then "being inside her".Name should’ve been BASEDman
>>204410012>who isMediocre directors, except for Demy.
>>204410082Yes.
>>204410012Spielberg is the only one of those worth a damn and he's probably a pedophile
>>204409168Cry more Hitchcocksucker, your hero is still a pathetic coward
>>204410082Pretty fucking based thing to say.
>>204409473>moved to new york Jesus, why??
>>204410098Spielberg is based desu. One of the best commercial filmmakers of all time.
>Visconti smoked 120 cigarettes a day.[26] He suffered a serious stroke in 1972, but continued to smoke heavily.Even after the Jew almost killed him, he never gave up the fight. Respectable to say the least
>>204410127>he's probably a pedophilewhy
>>204410164Yeah, I'm thinking you're retarded.
>>204410012Wes Anderson let the animation director do all the actual day to day directing on Mr Fox while he shouted orders to him from his iPhone in a Parisian luxury hotel, while not sharing directing credit like Tim Burton had the honor of doing for Corpse Bride.
>>204409839He repeatedly gaped his obese asshole for the paying audience to repeatedly treat like their toilet
>>204410200The Poltergeist girl story.
>>204410113Just making sure
>>204410012They are all off topic
>>204410200Phenotype
>>204410279Demy and Lee (his Taiwanese films at least) aren't because they're foreign
>>204410164No, telling people to kill themselves is never a good thing. Suicide sends you straight to hell.
>>204410137If by based you mean cringe sure
>>204410319>helllmao
>>204410319So, the samurai that comitted hara-kiri out of honor are in hell? O.o
>>204410052>cries at A Clockwork Orange like a bitch>gets fucked in the ass>dies of AIDSSo based...
>>204410406Just watch his non musicals like Bay of Angels or Model Shop if you're threatened by teh ghey
>>204410265Just a /tv/ meme. She died six years after working with Spielberg.
>>204410372>atheistlmao>>204410398yes
Honestly it's kinda nice that Pasolini died in such a unique manner rather than just going out of aids like every other queer in the 80s.
>>204410113Bay contemplative cinema
Great thread, we’re healing
>>204410682I was gonna ask, what's with the lack of waifu posting in the past few threads?
>>204410703The shitbirds were put to rest, if you catch my drift.
>>204410703This is actually a good thread for once. Fuck off you dumb coomer
filmovich is healing
>>204410880I was just curious.
>>204410682Just have to speak the truth, 'cause the truth will set you free, you feelin' me?
Unironically how and why has Persona become Bergman's most popular film?
>>204411376I disagree- Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries seem much more popular
>>204411376It's much closer to today's audience preferences (Lynchian vibe fest and direct precursor to stuff like Mulholland Drive) than The Seventh Seal, which was the boomer Bergman pick of choice.
>>204411462Persona has the most ratings on Letterboxd (and it's also Bergman's highest rated movie)
>>204411376>>204411462Seventh Seal is the most popular, definitely.
>>204411376I think it's his most aesthetic film, even though it's not my favorite. Easier to get into because of "vibing", I guess. Not like Cries and Whispers, which has no vibes.
>>204411462>>204411557>>204411569Not only letterboxd>https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-timectrl+f Bergman there
What are some good sexploitation kinos? I'm only familiar with Brazilian pornochanchadas.
>>204411557Don’t give a fuck what trannyboxd says ever>>204411623Greatest doesn’t equal most popular
>>204411610>Cries and WhispersHigh camp which takes itself deadly seriously unfortunately, also mostly filmed theater with constant red fades.
>>204411475This might be true. The Seventh Seal has more ratings on IMDb which is mostly used by boomers, whereas Persona is more popular in websites geared towards younger audiences like Letterboxd and RateYourMusic
>>204411687I don't agree on that, but it's my least favorite Bergman because of being boring.>>204411627CaligulaBeyond the Valley of the DollsUp!Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!Female Prisoner #701: ScorpionSchool of the Holy Beast
>>204406958It was tough enough to endure 3:20 of this. Not surprised in the least that zoomers have no clue of what "realism" means, for them it must be scarjo using upspeak or something.
>>204411871Caligula actually good?
>>204406965Gee, why would someone impersonate that schizo? /film/ nevr fails to fall for each and every grift.
>>204411627The Emmanuelle films directed by Just Jackin. Also probably the Black Emmanuelle films by Joe D'Amato but I'm too afraid to check them out
>>204404232I really do get where you're coming from with this to be honest. And I feel like his movies can be slow and boring as hell even if they're only 90 minutes long. (not "slow" in the same sense as slow cinema but you get the point)And it really got me thinking, I feel like his movies are good because of its theme and boldness when it come to the discussion of philosophy where other directors might find tedious. And of course, good acting.>>204411376Nah Seventh Seal is the most popular one but I think people just seem to like Persona more that's why it seem to be so popular among the cinephiles.And not going to lie, I didn't really like Seventh Seal that much, I don't think I didn't get it but it's just okay for me. I don't see it in the top 100 best movies pick that's what I mean.
>>204411871>>204412003Thank you! I suppose the Caligula Ultimate Cut is the better one? I know it uses a lot of different takes.
>>204411969Yes, excellent in fact. Has some porn, but I'm not bothered by it at all. It's a legitimately great film.
>>204412003>I'm too afraid to check them outBecause?>>204412082Never seen it, just normal release for me.
>>204411627All the Sins of Sodom 1968 is pretty decent, it was shot in black and white and so its has that avant garde looks to it instead of looking cheaply made, the acting is kinda meh but if you want to see some tiddies, check it out.
>>204411610>Cries and Whispers >no vibes is it Opposite Day or something?
>>204412086Added to the list. I've always avoided because it just seemed like a big mess, with different directors being called in and inserting porn scenes.
>>204412184No, it didn't "vibe" for me. More like, anti-vibed. Stiff af film.
>>204411687>filmed theaterThis shit is a non-argument and I wish you all stopped using it because it's annoying. Cries and Whispers was filmed the way it was because a film like Cries and Whispers needed to be filmed that way
Thoughts on the mumblebore movement?
>>204412205The whole movie is vibey af idk what you’re talking about
>>204412242I just think some posters here don't know the difference between filmed theater (Inserts) vs. chamber film (Cries and Whispers)
>>204412275Supposedly dreamy; for me, it was just a bore to get through.
>>204412293Which one is Petra Von Kant
>>204409536And we hate everything we talk about.
>>204412390Chamber film, but heavily influenced by theatrical language
>>204412293> chamber filmOh, right, I was trying to remember what they called those
>>204412274is it even really a thing anymore? I thought it died after early 2010s
>>204412293>I just think some posters here don't know the difference between a fag and a poofta
>>204412324Philistine.
>>204412293what's the difference between chamber film and theater film
>>204409745agreed
>>204410166better than la
Son of the Mask and Joker 2 are /film/
>>204412082Go with the original cut first.
>>204412717Definitely didn't knew what a poofta was until like 10 seconds ago.>>204412730Maybe I'll like it eventually idk>>204412747Filmed theatre: much more influence from classical theatre in lighting, acting, scripting (really fast pace and summarized plot events, for example, ample use of analepsis and prolepsis to save screen time and advance the action / diegesis, in media res, etc.), and costuming. Usually simpler structures when compared to chamber film.Chamber film: small casts, general minimalism in scripting, lighting, costuming, etc. Emphasis is on actor's performances (think My Dinner with André, Cries and Whispers, 12 Angry Manes...). Action usually occurs in a fixed place, with camera movements showing the place. Influence from classical theatre is notorious, but very diluted when compared to filmed theatre. Acting styles also differ heavily (not as expressive as filmed theatre, usually more restrained).
>>204412773Only serial killers can make real kino, don't @ me
>>204412812>LAfuck both of them
>>204413022There’s literally nothing wrong with anything discussed in this post
>>204413158Who said there was something wrong? And something wrong with what, in the first place?
>>204413022>12 Angry ManesLike a horses mane?
>>204413194Oh god no…
Master of the House (1925)Rope (1948)Cries and Whispers (1972)
>>204413179There is absolutely nothing even remotely incorrect in this post
>>204413022>12 Angry Manesis that the spike lee remake
>>204412812>at least this steaming pile of shit is better than this diarrhea why not move somewhere actually good if you were moving anyway?
>>204413067Are there any directors who've actually killed people? Other than Max Landis
>>204413272No it seriously makes me think of a horse, their mane…. Makes me think of their eye for some reason…
>>204413308*John Landis, my bad.
>>204413308Spielberg has raped and killed thousands of children
speaking of filmed theatre, are there any directors who take inspiration from Méliès? his insanely theatrical sets seem to be unique just to him. I want to see a more modern film with sets like his
>>204413333satanic quads
>>204413333>>204413403Jesus no…
>>204413396Lots of Japanese cinema directly influenced by and adapted from Japanese theater
>>204410703Honestly I felt bad for dragging gadonfag in here.
>>204413308José Giovanni
>filmed theater
Does any western animated film besides Mask of the Phantasm really beat this? I still have yet to see something with more heart and artistic integrity.
looking for a /film/ waifu, which films have the most beautiful asian women?
>>204413618Hi Paul.
>>204413308Howard Hughes accidentally killed a pedestrian with his car in 1936.>>204413396Just to be clear, theatrical sets =/= filmed theater.Anyway, check out Karel Zeman.
>>204413594Most based western anime film coming through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTWbnf4MEk
>>204413739>Zeman
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Ark_(1928_film)>Approximately 7,500 extras worked on the film.[4] During the filming of the climactic flood scene, the 600,000 US gallons (2,300,000 L; 500,000 imp gal) of water used was so overwhelming that three extras drowned, one was so badly injured that his leg needed to be amputated, and a number suffered broken limbs and other serious injuries, which led to implementation of stunt safety regulations the following year.[5] Dolores Costello caught a severe case of pneumonia. Thirty-five ambulances attended the wounded.[6]Remember this?
>>204413853Sacrificed to Moloch.
>>204413904That's from Metropolis, right? There's something really otherwoldly about how they combined all the ancient mythical stuff and the scifi setting. I don't even want to say that it was ahead of its time because it sounds corny but man it's just crazy for 1927
>>204413308Oliver Stone killed during the Vietnam war. Platoon is the most honest Vietnam war film.>>204413853Oops.
>>204413853I read that one of the extras refused to have his leg amputated, and then managed to fully recover and become a professional tennis champion
>>204414027Yes, it's from Metropolis, and you're completely right, the film is super ahead of its time. The ancient occult vibe mixed with state of the art technology is a reality though, -elite occultism-, which is what the movie shows.
>>204413396Your desire is the most reddit thing I've ever seen.>DUDE THE AESTHETIC WAS GOOD I WANT IT INJECTED IN MY VEINS
Opinions on her? Why is she supposed to be so special? Never seen one of her films.
>>204414153Thanks for expressing your opinion, now shut the fuck up.
>>204414211Great actress.>Never seen one of her films.Change that and you don't need to ask anymore.
>>204404232I never cared much for Bergman either, but eventually I did like Skammen, so I'd say give that a watch
>>204413396You may enjoy the works of Wes Anderson.
>>204414282Ain't gonna front man, I just hate that shit so much
>>204414298I like Rushmore.
>>204413232Based
>>204413396Jerry Lewis' The Ladies Man
>>204414240whoooa MELIES HAS BIG SET!!! METROPOLIS...HAD...SET!!! ZEMAN HAD... SET, DR.... CALIG....ARI WHER IS TONY ZHOU I MUST HAVE 100 MORE MOVIES JUST LIKE IT AESTHETICS NOW!!!!! PLEASE NOW NOW NOW!!!!!
orson welles mogs your favorite director
>>204414530you didn't even try this time
Lon Chaney is the GOAT
>>204414530Favourite non-Kane Welles? Touch of Evil for me.
>>204414530>My favorite directorHe can't mog Bresson.
>>204414282That film is a waste of potential.>construct a gigantic set>90 % of the movie is using traditional coverage>using anamorphic lens with boring shot reverse shot staging>boring script and dialogue
>>204414578ESTEBAAANESTEBAAAAAAAAAAN
Wes is /film/ most influential director of the century by far
I once went to the cinemas to see a Wes Anderson film about boy scouts, the one with Edwart Norton. I hated it. Oh and also Grand Budapest, hated it as well
>>204414671Which directors were influenced by him?
>>204414700I saw Isle of Dogs on release. First time I felt a disconnect between pre /film/ me and post /film/ me. I *used* to think that I liked Wes when I was a teen, but that flick left me feeling cold. First time I felt the desire to go beyond what commercial kinoplexes could give me.
>>204414671he influenced no one, cool style tho
>>204414712Almost every indie film in the 00s was a rip-off of Wes Anderson. His style was particularly influential in the advertisement industry. He is also the most parodied director on YT/social media. His whole autistic, symmetric, colorful style is iconic. >>204414700The Grand Hotel is a cinematic masterpiece, actually. It is like a comic strip come to life.
>>204414931>Almost every indie film in the 00s was a rip-off of Wes Anderson.Name ten of them.
>>204414931>His style was particularly influential in the advertisement industryHow about that
Wes Anderson invented AI.
AI invented Wes Anderson.
>>204414965Napoleon DynamiteThumbsuckerGarden StateWristcutters: A love StoryRunning with ScissorsSubmarineIgby Goes DownJojo RabbitI Heart HuckabeesPaddingtonThe Brothers BloomSquid and the WhaleMarie AntoinetteJunoLady BirdBe Kind, RewindNone of these would exist in their form without Wes Anderson
>>204415193most don't follow Andersonian style at all
>>204414027>That's from Metropolis, right? There's something really otherwoldly about how they combined all the ancient mythical stuff and the scifi setting. I don't even want to say that it was ahead of its time because it sounds corny but man it's just crazy for 1927It has a futuristic setting but it's an extremely moral and Biblical film. It's literally about the Whore of Babylon leading the world astray, while linkening exploitation of workers and industrialization to Satanism.
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>>204415193Most are a stretch.
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>>204405850where did white people come from again?
>>204415305>one hour later