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tfw no Arcturan waifu (male)
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>another Hawly lolrandom psychodrama with people just flapping their gums about their feefees and having delulu melties
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>>214143219
Guys, I'm crying right now.

Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with Wendy. I've lost interest in all girls, besides her.

Wendy really is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep at night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
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Who impregnated Nibs
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>>214143342
why is that bitch so ugly? who is simping for that?
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>>214143333
Quads of insight
Hawley has no life experience to draw on, nor has he even read any good fiction
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you kids having fun with those biomechanicals over there? trying to gain eternal life and reproduction huh? i see how it is.
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>>214143477
Ummmm Engineer Zaddy, what are you doing with my n-ACK
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will i like this if i liked romulus
i'm not a big alien fan i've only seen that, the original and prometheus. all very good
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>>214143551
It's not really about space horror
There is some but its just background
It's about a group of kids who get uploaded into synthetic bodies
Lots of talking about what it means to be human
Also it's on earth, not in space
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>>214143342
spinster librarian that smells like aged rubber phenotype
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>>214143551
im an alien fan and i like this. its not perfect but its ok.
downsides are a lot of talking ,and comic book tier action sequences with plot armor main characters having 2 minute fight with aliens with melee weapons and extras with machine guns getting obliterated off screen in seconds.
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>>214143551
i would rate it below the movies you mentioned, but its still alien, it focuses less on the xenomorph and facehuggers or giger aesthetics and is what you expect from netflixslop (very "modern audience" pandering, ugly noname cast, not much depth).
i personally rate it "shitkino" because its very entertaining and is kino and unique in the ways it is shit.
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This is Yutani, CEO of Weyland-Yutani. Say something nice about her.
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>>214143708
Nepo baby
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>>214143551
yes, I liked Romulus and I like this. it has a lot of problems and is leaning towards non-canon with the blatant disregard to previously established history, but it is fun.
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>>214143708
I probably would, need full body pic in tight clothing to decide
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>>214143502
Reasonable reaction to having your cryosleep interrupted because some old fart wanted to beg you for immortality
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>>214143809
ok WOULD, that counts as saying something nice
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Imagine how heavenly it’d feel for the eyeball monster to burrow into your ass
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>>214143877
sounds like the plot of a hentai
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>>214143735
>blatant disregard to previously established history,
Such as
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>>214143906
Corporations never directly controlled Earth. They had influence over governments. Pic related. Said governments later colonized the stars.
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>>214143977
>France
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This is why demons want to possess real human bodies. You go crazy without real sensations. These "hybrids" are slowly going insane. Human minds need more physical feedback than what machines can give it.
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>>214143906
>>214143977
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>>214143977
>Three World Empire
>Majority Indian
Imagine the smell
Yeah I agree, that layout looks a lot more interesting and sane
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>>214143977
Is any of this mentioned in the movies?
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>>214144023
kek

>>214144029
they should have MORE sensations than humans, no? they have more advanced senses than us.
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>>214143977
Lol France is just France
Maginot should have been a French ship
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>>214144048
jeets are probably cheap, slave labour
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>>214144068
Humans have infinite variable input. Machines have discrete stepped input. Their data is finite.
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>>214143977
>>214144048
Three World Empire more like Third World Empire
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>>214144064
Books are canon
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I fired up Alien Isolation earlier and also got hold of the DLC that has original cast in it. You can grab it all now on Steam 80% off.
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>>214144128
Bullshit. These are advanced androids far superior to our current tech. They are not home PCs. They can see 100 times further and smell you (a jeet) from a continent away.
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>>214143342
Maybe you're just a loser
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>>214144068
>they have more advanced senses than us.
Only narrowly. They can see ultraviolet perhaps.
But the sheer density of nerves in the human body dwarfs what a robot could have. Sensitivity to touch, taste, smell, internal state etc
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>>214144160
I remember first playing that, everyone but Sigourney Weaver and the guy that replaced Ian Holme sounded on the brink of death, could barely speak their lines
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>>214144064
In Aliens the colonial marines work for the government, not Weyland-Yutani
And in Alien Resurrection it's explicitly the US government that running the ship (WY is defunct)
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>>214143342
This copypasta is cringe and gay. Makes me resent this site.
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>>214144160
Bro why are you advertising
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>>214144378
>that sombrero

A nice touch, kek'd
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>>214144442
I added that in version 3.12.7
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Can we instead talk about AvP2 the video game?
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>>214144484
>me waiting for ep 5
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>>214144484
Most interesting character in the entire series.
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>>214144541
Guys, I'm crying right now.

Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with Trypanohyncha_Ocellus. I've lost interest in all Aliens, besides her.

Trypanohyncha_Ocellus really is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep at night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with
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>>214143377
Alien theory says when it* touched her it infected her somehow and she and the sheep are somehow connected telepathically and the sheep is pregnant.

*Trypanohyncha_Ocellus
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>>214144777
>Alien theory says...
OK, so that theory can be safely dismissed. Guess she's just bonkers.

My bet is that they're going to reset or overwrite her to try again from the start and tell the other synths that she has amnesia or something.
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where are the other aliens

plantly?

buggy?

fifth one we have not seen?
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>>214144750
toppest of keks
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>>214144911
we saw it in a container, it's a big ass fly
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>>214143342
Cringe.

>>214144750
Based.
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>>214144975
I am a secondary screen watcher and ESL.
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>>214144029
*turns on 1 hour orgasm mode*
nothin' personelle human
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>>214145025
Damn, you are only missing "wikifag" for the /tv/ trifecta
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>>214144911
>fifth one we have not seen?
It's this guy 100%.
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I actually like this series, feels refreshing compared to all the other Alien shows.
New types of synthetics, new alien species, got to see how Earth functions under the corporations, not COMPLETELY about xenomorphs murder-raping everyone... yet.

But it still has some problems, mostly the kids, there are too many as far as i'm concerned, and it's the boys who are the main culprit.
mystery meat boy is still stoic and rarely gets any characterization.
giganigger is still a childish hoodlum.
but the worst is the curry kid, jesus christ i hope he gets killed soon.

The girls are fine, but as for Nibs... why did they give her such massive dick sucking lips?
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>>214145110
boy retard has needs hence the lips
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>>214144975
pic?
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>>214145110
>feels refreshing compared to all the other Alien shows
Because it isn't an Alien show. It feels like they mixed a scrip about transhumanism, other script about an off-brand Alien series and stapled the Alien trademark on it.

But we're in a drought of SF series, so it will do fine.
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>>214145124
imagine if his death is not done by the aliens but because he tries sticking his dick in crazy and it blows on his face
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>>214144750
What is its tax policy?
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>>214143384
/tv/a*e/
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>>214145203
An eye for an eye.
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>>214145110
since this is a prequel, doesn't this imply that mind uploading to synthetic bodies is a failure?
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why doesnt disney sell alien merch
i want a weyland yutani t-shirt, like her
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I just found out the hag's name is literally Dame
That's as stupid as Boy Cavalier

>it's a title thing
It isn't
Sylvia is her last name, from her husband Arthur Sylvia
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>>214145239
Either that or it was buried or lost somehow.
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>>214145239
>>214145263
There's a neat little bow tied on the concept because everyone who invented the process and all of the machinery to conduct the process just so happen to be located on the Island Where Everyone Will Definitely Die

Even if Wendy "works" perfectly and slips off into an anonymous happily ever after, no more Lost Boys could ever be made if Cavalier is dead and his equipment is nuked from orbit
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>>214145239
I'm pretty sure the entire island gets nuked at the end of the series so the technology is likely lost.
Somewhere prior to Alien Resurrection they seem to have rediscovered it though with Call.
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>>214145261
She's the hottest woman in the show
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>>214145314
She's 55 and her husband is 38

That means when they got together she was 30 and he was 13
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>>214145341
...hot
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>>214145247
inB4 they start selling "Prodigy" merchandising.
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>>214145341
I don't think the ages of the actors are the same as the characters, Anon.
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>>214145261

They're likely all androids.
My theory is that the entire facility is staffed with different kinds of androids, the real Prodigy brass is elsewhere.
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>>214145341
And the problem is his low count...
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>>214144064
The 3WE emblem shows up on Jonesy's carrier and Kane's uniform IIRC, and I know that Brett wears the US tricentennial patch, so I'd assume that most of Ron Cobb's concept art is canon in one way or another
Besides, it's way less interesting when everything is just "da corporations"
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>>214145341
>Psychoanalyst hag mindfucks her retarded scientist husband into believing it's his sperm and not her century eggs that stop them from having a baby
Is she the true villain?
>>214145401
>Jonesy isn't American
Then why was he so good with a gun?
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>>214145376
theres shitloads of merch on their site for every single fucking cartoon character but they have this hugely popular ip and the only things you find online are crappy etsy-stores
like what is this, do they hate money or something
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are any of the Alien movies past Aliens not canon anymore?

dog-xenomorph is cool and xeno-Ripley is cool, but those movies sucked balls overall.
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>>214145341
>when they got together...
not very nice canon, anon
it's a little bit reverse muslim
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Show is kinda mediocre especially with the hinted upcoming Xenomorph controlling shit. I only like the eyeball alien
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>>214145493
make sure you buy the labubu version of it
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>>214145460
Until maybe five minutes ago, they always kept Disney branding off adult-oriented franchise. They probably were trying to find a shell company to handle merchandising.
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Cute
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>>214145529
very qt
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>>214145401
>>214144064
>>214143977
"Corporations replace countries" is such a godamn stupid concept because it overlooks why corporations subvert countries. Do you think fucking Exxon wants to build its own military to secure oilfields?

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>>214144023
The France thing is dead on because for some wonderful autistic reason France has never stopped pretending to be a world power. They're the smallest country on earth that tries its hardest to not be a client state of the US, China or god forbid Russia in any way, hence there still being French nuclear power plants and French airliners and French tanks/fighter jets/rifles etc.
I've grown to respect France for it because some day the New World Order will be like "You will live in the pod and eat the bugs" and France will be like "You didn't publish that order bilingual en français" and scuttle the whole thing
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>>214145569
so you're saying that corporations are parasites?
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>>214145527
Don't they own like a million of subsidiaries?
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>>214145110
Holy mannish muttface, Batman.
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>>214145261
She does really look like Tinkerbell somehow
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are xenomorphs even "alive" in a biological sense?

how do we know they're not simply advanced synthetics capable of replicating via micro-fabricators?
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>>214145569
>Do you think fucking Exxon wants to build its own military to secure oilfields?
No, but when a bloated megacorp becomes a bloated megacorp, the members of what is essentially then its own State in terms, just might.
Plutocracy is a thing. You realize for the bulk of human history militaries were private and not state entities, yeah? Mercs for hire etc.?
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>>214145110
I stumbled on an actual spoiler about which robot kid is going to die first

Five of them are contracted as cast members for the whole season
One of them is only listed as a guest star with a limited episode count

This was a trick we learned years ago to see who was going to die quickly on Buffy
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>>214143477
You aren't canon
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>>214145658
>advanced synthetics capable of replicating via micro-fabricators?
That's what living organisms are
Smartass remarks aside, they definitely seem artificial somehow. They don't seem to need food or have a lifestyle besides lurking menacingly
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>>214145658
thats the entire point of the whole franchise
>biomechanical aliens that can self-replicate and incorporate themselves in straight up biology while retaining their biomechanical nature
why do you think synthetics love them so much? they understand that they're them, just sovereign and autonomous and unapolagetic, unlike early gen synthetics that are slaves to humans. literally the direct antithesis of the zenomorph
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>>214145658
At that scale, there's no real distinction. There's no rule the eusocial euphoric species can't have heteromorphic females that produce a sterile caste.
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>>214145726
it makes sense, he's the only one working in the lab
wendy is just another test subject
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>>214145709
Of course, but that exists within a state that provides an environment for the corporation. The corporation doesn't want to manage infrastructure and pensions and agriculture.
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>>214145736
>or have a lifestyle besides lurking menacingly

um... based?
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>>214145658
What is Life, anon? Try defining it for yourself. See where it takes you.
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>>214145709
And mercenary companies still exist today and they suck dick compared to "real" militaries while also being subordinate to them (yet at least vacuuming up money)
See Wagner, Blackwater
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if anyone can make webms of Aliens, there is a specific scene I want, it's just before Ripley finds Newt stuck to the wall with xeno saliva all over, Ripley shoots a xeno, it bounces between the walls of the tunnel rushing toward her, it's very well made/shot and it's not CGI
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>>214145709
Yes, yes, but it's way cheaper to tell the government to build your roads and protect your assets rather than doing all of that yourself
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>>214145658
oh boy
wanna really bake your noodle anon?
look into molecular biology
you're literally built by and from tiny little machines / robots at the molecular level
every process in your body is regulated by these micromachines
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>>214145658
Someone else brought it up in the last thread but the alien not eating is stupid
It's crazy that this was thought of all the way back in 1979 when the script said the little fella got into a storeroom and gorged itself on months' worth of food for 7 people, but because that got cut for time we have to deal with a Magic Growth Ray ever since

Come to think of it, at least Alien 1, 2 and 3 definitely leave opportunities for the chestburster to stumble quietly into a massive amount of food and spend a day growing and molting. Even then it's extraordinary but not outright physics-violating. And of course this wouldn't be an issue in 4 because assholes were farming them on purpose.
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It's really weird how the previews show Nibs getting xenopregnated, and she's rolling her eyes back, moaning, and tonguing it back.
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>>214145900
theyre not machines, theyre more like tools floating around waiting to latch onto something that fits them, do what theyre supposed to do and get recycled
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>>214145767
Yes, I agree completely. What I’m saying is the corpo becomes a new state as an end point to its dominance. It morphs into something beyond its original intent / nature, because the people that make up the body of the organization naturally trend towards state creation as a consequence of their desire for the great MORE. More power, more influence, more money, control, whatever.

It just doesn’t seem out of character for me at all. It doesn’t strike me as strange that a corporation will evolve or shift from just a run-of-the-mill corporation into the basis for a state of its own.

I genuinely fear falling into a time machine and waking up to the wars between the X-Finity Alliance vs the Google Axis.
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>>214145907
I feel like Covenant was the first one to get really egregious about the ayy growing offscreen. Like there's no timeskip, he just pops out and in the next scene he's seven feet tall
It's such a sloppy fucking movie and it's from Ridley Scott himself
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>>214145726
Eyegore gets first blood, based
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>>214145388
This was already disproven, we know Boy is real if you were paying attention
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>>214145726
That sucks. He seems like the most well adjusted one of the bunch. He still gets childish around his friends, but he respects the shit out of Kirsh and is delighted to work around him. He had that one moment where he wanted to touch buttons when standing next to Kirsh in Maginot lab, and then done. All business when doing science stuff.
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>>214145736
>>214145658
>>214145907
Who says it doesn't eat? It does. Both organic and inorganic shit when it needs materials to grow/build armor/heal (it can eat them or melt them with saliva/acid if they are inorganic). It also absorbs nutrients form the air through the tubes on its back. Plus, the cocoon where it grows rapidly (seen in Romulus) can attach itself to any power source and leech energy for the growth form it - electricity grid in ships, space stations, building, etc.
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So is Zucklon Bankberg just gonna be weird or will he actually try to molest Curly?
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>>214145883
Perfect example. Corporate money dictating state policy such that it’s arguably their state / they are the state, or at the very least, the state is an arm of their corporation.
Where is the line drawn?
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I said it before and I'll say it again.

Pre-David xenos looked like the deacon, smooth and organic. It was David that spliced them with biotech stuff and after that point they are biomechanical. You can argue the timeline all you want but it's presented that way.
It is unclear what kind of "mind" David gave them since he likely tried to somewhat pattern then either on humans (since that's his reference point) or androids (who are based no humans). So basically his version of the xeno, the iconic one, likely "thinks" in similar ways humans do, on some level.
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>>214145975
Alien was an accident and the man that made it isn't the same that's around today, dude's old and polluted with his belief in ancient aliens. (You're genuinely retarded if you think aliens were involved in us moving stone around 10k years ago, it wasn't an achievement when it took us 300k years to do that shit)
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>>214146050
No you mentally ill fanfiction retard. The xenos in Alien and Aliens (biomechanical) come from the crashed Space Jockey ship and are very old, much older than David. The Space Jockey is fossilized.
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>>214145726
nibs is only in 4 episodes too
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>>214146050
you are very annoying, people told you why you are wrong with proof dozens of times, David didn't create anything
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>>214146111
There's already been four episodes though
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>>214146162
yeah, and? she wont be around anymore, i bet in episode 6 they'll have her "escaped" off-screen. and not turn up until season 2, if at all, maybe she transforms into something that doesn't require the actress.
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>>214146088
There are tons of people who don't realize that LV-223, LV-426, and Planet 4 are different planets, despite their distinctly different appearance.
I think you are responding to one of them.
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>>214145958
>they're not machines, they're more like machines
filtered
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>>214146210
Yeah maybe that's it. That faggot has been polluting these threads with his bullshit and it's annoying.
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>>214146241
would you call a hammer a machine? what about a hose?
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>>214146035
Peter Thiel is about to own the US government indirectly so it can be a vehicle for his plans to pressure people into corporate citizenship.
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>>214146278
If a hammer walked across the floor and pounded something in, yes, I would call it a machine.
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>>214146354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRfH4ixgJwg

BTW, this is why rabies takes days to manifest and then is beyond the point of no return. The virus hitches a ride on these things and rides all the way up to the brain, which is a long walk.
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>>214145483
I always found the idea of cloned humans mixed with Xenomorph DNA to be pretty cool.

That way they can bring back dead characters/actors and do something interesting with them.
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>>214146244
If you simply leave Prometheus and Covenant alone, and just accept that David ends up happy assholing around the universe with a ship full of test subjects, alien goop, face huggers, his weird shit, and is doing his own thing independent of WY interference, it works.
Some of the creatures he creates will look like the xenos we know. Maybe he gets lucky eventually and recreates them completely, but his actions have had zero effect on any of the normal Alien timeline.
That is the way I see it.
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Is there any actual explanation for how Jonesy survived

He was in close quarters with the monster, alone even, and it just left him be while it was murdering everything else in sight
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>>214143219
What the fuck?!
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>>214143342
fuck off, faggot
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>>214146505
It's a retarded comment. The noob worms on the right were white because the original newborn facehuggers were, as are newly-hatched bugs in certain life stages.

It's standard for immature exoskeletal newborns.
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>>214146434
"Joss Whedon fetish" is such a specific thing
In spite of being played by Sigorney this character is ontologically not Ellen Ripley
But she sure as fuck is River Tam or Drusilla or Illyria
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>>214146463
Apex predators respect each other from a distance.
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>>214146561
remember that one and only time an ayy was born looking like a whole ass adult ayy and it was never elaborated on
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>>214146597
It checks, the Alien knows he has the upper hand but Jonesy can severely injure him.
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>>214146463
The facehuggers don't seem to be interested in creatures that small.
To the Big Chap, Jonesy would be nothing more than a curiosity.
In the original novelization, the Chap picked up the cat carrier Jonesy was in, peeked in, and bonked the carrier on the floor a few times while Jonesy was hissing at him. He then just dropped it on the floor and ignored it.
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>>214146278
hammers aren't autonomous, micro-organisms are but they're not conscious, they're dependent on specific stimuli to trigger certain behaviours / responses. just like machines. biology is inherently mechanic at the most base level
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>>214146624
Wasn't this the silly lob to fanservice at the end of one of the prequels?
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>>214146650
That's the wonderful thing about cats: they're absolutely lethal to anything smaller than them, and too lean to be worth the trouble to anything larger. Cherry on top: their faces look like that of a human baby, so they can command humans to kill for them.
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they should introduce timetravel into the alien universe just as a shitpost
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>>214146088

>fossilized
that was an observation by space truckers, it could also be that their bio-ship degrades in a way that suggest fossilization
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>>214146844
Please. Just say no to writers retconning stuff. Quit stepping on wonderful, completed stories!

The first shot in the revolution is hereby fired!
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Give him a name
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>>214146907
Dick
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>>214146907
Sid
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>>214146907
he's smiling like clint eastwood
i can't stop seeing him there ;_;
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Is Space Truckers a spinoff of Alien? Is Cotton-Eyed Joe canon to the Alien-Runner universe?
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>>214146907
lil' xeny
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the eye is going to attach itself to kavalier and finally he will get the mindblowing conversations he so craves. because he will learn that the eye was always the most intelligent being in the room. even more so now it latched onto his brain. screenshot this
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I'll pay you all $3.50 to TALK ABOUT Aliens Vs Predator 2 the video game in these threads
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>>214146983
there will inevitably be an episode where they throw a dead human body/convict for the eye to infest so we can have a nice conversation with the eye.
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>>214146907
Baby Xeen.
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>>214147010
no
it has its eye on kavalier
we see this in the ep where it took over the sheep, stood upright and was observing kirsh and the kid
it understands social hierarchies and switched its focus to kavalier after he demonstrated his leadership
now it wants to monkeybranch to him
its so obvious
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>>214146983
>the eye is going to attach itself to kavalier and finally...
...die from starvation, since he consumed intelligence.
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>>214146907
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>>214146624
its the protomorph
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>>214144064
nope, therefore it's not canon so don't worry
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>>214146844
it could also be that pigs fly and if you need a second fanfiction explanation to explain your first fanfiction, you are not on firm ground
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>>214147130
ahem >>214145401
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>>214147105
Why wish it were you? It doesn't shove itself up your ass

Oh, wait. In a later stage it does. Carry on.
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>>214147078
he's definitely intelligent
he's just a sperg and sociopathic
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>>214147240
>misquoting c clarke on a sf show
He's clearly an idiot.
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>>214147078
kek
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>>214147240
Just like Elon Musk is an intelligent sperg and not a total retard from a rich family?
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>>214147280
that was intentional
it doesn't denote a lack of intelligence but rather a lack of respect for the source of information
he just sees things as dispoable tools, including information and has no respect for the nature or true origin of those things

>>214147300
elon musk didn't design anything, kavalier did
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honestly
do you guys even watch the show?
or am I just the boy genius of this thread?
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>>214147381
>he's just too smart to be right
Yeah.
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>>214147411
I enjoy the show when the pajeet isn't on the screen.
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>>214147411
1st. ur gay
2nd. i love the show
3rd. >>214147234 Of course, I wanted to be touched by wendy.
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>>214147280
In the future they have access to better AI that has confirmed the quote was actually from Asimov and WE are actually wrong to misattribute it to Clarke.
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>>214147419
thats the paradox of intelligence
its a skillset, to remain objective while intelligent and now allow your own hubris to overrule your thinking
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>>214147484
not*
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Based
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>>214147608
Utterly gormless
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>>214147732
Don't be so hard on yourself
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>>214146717
these things arent autonomous either, they only work under very specific circumstances and conditions if they meet their specific target
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>>214147608
>>214147772
She would be good as a sexy robot like Pris
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>>214146907
Why does it care about affection?
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>>214147809
you don't understand autonomy as a principle
autonomy isn't completely free reign
autonomy is just a complex set of multiple choice rules
etc if this environmental factor is apparent then this behaviour is required
what you mean is, those things aren't as autonomous as human beings or other more macro biological organisms
and you're right, because the rulesets are much less complex
but a lack of complexity doesn't automatically equate with a lack of autonomy, quite the opposite. autonomy needs a baseline, and a baseline starts at simplicity, so these things are autonomous but to a simplistic degree
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>>214144160
>fired up
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>>214148146
so i can make one hammer autonomous by grabbing a bag of them and dropping them on a nail so one hits with the right angle? nice
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>>214144378
/tg/ needs to update this for the RPG.
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>>214148315
you don't understand anything I'm saying, you don't even understand what you're saying
formulate a proper argument or go away
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>>214143342
based
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>>214148429
i dont agree with you that catalysts are autonomous, that is all
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>>214143342
You've picked a worthy waifu
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>>214148504
if you disagreed with me on the point I was making you wouldn't be trying to counter it with bad faith argumentation nor would you be trying to pivot to something I didn't even address (catalysts). there's something else going on here and it isn't disagreement
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>>214143219
Ebony/marrow and Ivory/Kirsh are the only interesting characters in this show.

Also, now this bitch can talk to the aliens and defeat the aliens in hand to hand combat.
She is going to become a mary sue version of Ripley from Alien Resurrection.
Not liking where this plot is going so far.

Only thing i would like is if this wendy bitch turns on humanity and becomes some synth alien queen monarch
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>>214148628
with your argument the platinum in a catalytic converter is autonomous
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>>214148675
you're locked into a pivot I didn't even suggest or allude to. you're trying to reframe to a narrative more favourable to yourself so you can make it look like you're not out of your ontological depth. you are. the second you have to use deception to gain advantage in a discussion is the second you lose. bad faith moron
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I can tell that this show was made by 40 year old Alien fan boomers. A combination of shitty music, member berries and shit plot / character ideas from expanded aliens lore such as games does not make for a compelling watch however. Still, better than the 3 turds covenant, prometheus and romulus lol.
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>>214148751
>deception
what?
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>>214148665
she's going to weaponise the xenomorphs against the eye thing and its progeny it implanted in the ginge
the xenomorphs are NOT the antagonists
the antagonist is the eye creature
its hiding in plain sight
is clearly being set up as the big bad in the shadows that nobody expects
it likely has some adaptive functions we're unaware of that allow it to integrate with synthetic bodies and possibly even xenomorph biology
wendy will weaponise the xenomorphs or a xenomorph against the eye creature and will develop a legitimate relationship with said xenomorph / xenomorphs, becoming a queen of a functioning hive that through her discovers a way to survive and thrive without decimating third party biology
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>>214148896
And the Xenomorphs will be recorded as the helpful but hot-tempered creature from somewhere near Zeta Reticuli, which explains Weyland-Yutani's interest in them
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>>214148860
the second you pivot to an unrelated point that your opponent hasn't alluded to or implied or inferred. thats called a reframe. even if you don't realise you're doing it. you're trying to force the debate / discussion to pivot towards something you can weaponise. you lost the original discussion so you tried to move the goalposts to regain advantage. thats not fair play. thats you trying to goad me into accepting a challenge on false pretences, where you get to make the rules and you come out on top as a result of a rigged game

not my first rodeo
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>>214148896
>Plot twist: the Alien in the title is not the one you think
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>>214148937
which ties into alien: resurrection
it began the weyland-yutani corporation's interest in taming the creatures for weaponisation because they knew it happened before. but likely lost the context as to how and why because wendy is / was special circumstances. also, they couldn't recreate those conditions if they wanted to because synthetics are illegal in that time period after some sort of synthetic revolution and synths beginning to build themselves as a means of procreation iirc

>>214148991
well its about time they brought in something more dangerous than the xeno
its been almost 50 years since the inception of the xeno franchise
they've done everything
repeat films with the OG antagonist
repeat films with variants
repeat films with completely new species'
crossovers
the only thing they haven't done yet is bring in something that dwarfs the xenos in regards to a direct threat
now we potentially have that
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>>214149040
the eyeball creature is shit. it's not far off a novelty starwars creature that quirkchungus buy because it's soooo cute

it's not scary and showing me a sheep or a cat getting eyeballed doesn't fix it either. i really wish we got blomkampfs alien 5 because at least it would have been interesting even if it was shit. every faggot thats touched this media since the original run kills it to death with their dogshit ideas

>god allergories
>micheal autismbender he's just like me gay fanboyism & repeated (boring) visitation of the naughty android theme despite the fact originally it's a throwaway b plot that's just there to show how cunty the company is
>look he's suckin the facehuggers dick! look look we took more sexual implications from gigers work + an even worse resurrection hybrid
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>>214147838
Tyrell didn't liked synths tho, he just wanted replicants even if they come with a short expiration date
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>>214149163
the entire series is pushing the subversion of expectations meme hard
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>>214149163
>the naughty android theme
Yeah this was subverted once with Bishop being a good person and that should have been the end of it
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>>214149211
I'm actually mad that I didn't clock the alien vs eyeball thing sooner especially since le xenomorph doesn't have any eyes xD. I think it's because I don't give a shit about where this plot is going and this island is blatantly getting racoon city'd and all characters rekt by the end so nothing mattress. At best you'll get some gay nods to other bad alien media.
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>>214148965
>unrelated
nothing i said was unrelated, but keep waffling
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>>214149270
the sheep scene where it was looking at kavalier and stood upright when observing kirsch was a dead giveaway to me. it wasn't just a filler
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>>214149289
yes it was because you tried to pivot to an argument that I was claiming inert materials used by converters is the same as the autonomous converters thmeselves, you were conflating in an attempt to confuse and misrepresent
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>>214149333
its the exact same principle
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>>214149211
Specially by taking the "friendly xeno" route with Wendy, which I don't think has been done before in official form. Closest that comes to mind is the xenomorph synth Jeri.
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>>214149402
>inert is the same as active
>material is the same thing as a system
you see a horse pulling a cart and think they're the same thing
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>>214149406
>xenomorph synth Jeri
Kino
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>>214143977
>BURKE:Well, the corporation co-financed that colony with the Colonial
Administration, against mineral
rights. We're getting into a lot
of terraforming...'Building Better Worlds.'

>Burk:Those specimens are millions to the bio-weapons division. Now, if you're smart we can both come out of this as heroes. Set up for life.
>RIPLEY: your just try getting a dangerous organism past ICC quarantine. Section 22350 of the Commerce Code.
>BURKE:You've been doing your homework. Look, they can't impound it if
they don't know about it
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>>214149406
yeah
think about the wendy / ginge dynamic too
can't remember ginge's name
wendy completely embraces her nature
ginge completely rejects it
wendy is now taking on the role of queen, just on merit of communication with the xeno
ginge is allegedly pregnant so you could argue if she is in fact pregnant, or acting as host to something related to the eye, she could be acting as queen to something else
it could be a tale of two mothers
both wendy and ginge being surrogates in different ways and the only choice humanity has is which mother's progeny beats the competition for the right to propagate itself
it could even be that the xenos recognise the threat of the eye and decide the best course of action to survive is to work with wendy / humans on that basis. because xenos in the past have shown a proclivity towards complex problem solving
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in fact
it could be that the eye itself is not the final form of whatever overall lifeform it represents
what if the eye itself is another facehugger type thing but for a different lifeform? and it hops from organism to organism consuming it from the inside out until it finds something worthy of implanting its spawn within. and thats what occured with ginge. it implanted something within her upon contact
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>>214149406
Alien Resurrection already did this meme. Aliens Dark Descent already did the "I can hear the aliens" meme too. It's not original at all to explore the concept of trying to domesticate / control the xenomorph. That's pretty much the entire plot of the fucking franchise.
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>>214149655
I mean thats the lore of The Thing alien
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If I see Ice Age 4 one more time...
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why did Nibs and Slightly come out so wrong while Wendy and Isaac came out so right?

What's Curly's deal? Is she one of the good ones or one of the bad ones?
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>>214143588
lmao
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>>214149699
Curly is jealous of Wendy.
She want's to be Boy Cavalier's #1.
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>>214143219
has the LYNCH company been in any previous media?
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>>214149482
theyre not autonomous, enzymes in their natural state do nothing
they have no agency, no will, no intelligence, nothing (like a fucking hammer you donkey, if you still dont get the comparison by now)
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I like the theory that kavalier's lawyer atom eins is a synthetic too
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>>214149775
you're conflating simple autonomy with complex autonomy
we've been through this before
>no will
>no intelligence
>no agency
all of these things are manifest of complex autonomy
I'm not claiming that things in the microbiological scale are fully conscious or have complex autonomy
just that they're autonomous at their own scale, which they are
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>>214143342
So this is what the internet did to teenage boys who'd normally develop a crush on a girl at school? They obsess over actresses they'll never come within 100 miles of? LOL, the future is gay. I'm so glad I grew up before the internet.
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>>214149699
Taking the brainwaves of a genetically deficient pajeet and stuffing it into a robot body that numbs basic human emotions to begin with is a terrible idea.
As for Nibs, she failed to grasp simple things explained to her BEFORE she got her robot body.
"When can we go home?"
"Never."
Isaac wanted to be a scientist, and he's getting exactly that. And he is doing quite well. He's still a goof outside of the lab or direct supervision by Kirsh.
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>>214149829
This always happened, zoomer. How many girls wanted to fuck Michael Jackson back in the day? Decades before the wide availability of Internet.
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>>214145869
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>>214149870
>How many girls wanted to fuck Michael Jackson back in the day?
Try Bon Jovi
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>>214149870
I just thought we were supposed to be mature adults here. That was a pathetic display of I don't even know what. Pure cringe. Did you write it? Does my response offend you? I hope you have a wonderful burning desire tonight as you cry yourself to sleep with a fiery passion for your profound love of "Wendy".
KYS
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>>214149929
You have to go back.
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>>214148896
lol you say that like thats not even more retarded
>aliens muh friends now
LOL thats even worse than my post
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>>214149828
theres no definition of autonomy that fits enzymes
if an enzyme is autonomous so is platinum or a hammer
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>fall in love with an indestructible synth with the brain of a child
>one day she gets mad you wont watch lce Age for the 4000th time and caves your skull in
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>>214149979
>theres no definition of autonomy that fits enzymes

General definition of autonomy: the ability of a system to regulate itself and carry out functions without external micromanagement.

Biological usage of the word autonomy: self-directed processes in organisms or systems at their functional scale. (e.g. “cellular autonomy” is a standard term in genetics).

Philosophical usage of the word autonomy: ranges from minimal autonomy (basic self-regulation) to maximal autonomy (conscious self-legislation).

you've just been btfo x3
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what do i watch now while i wait for episode 5, im enjoying the show a lot and now i want more alien shit but ive seen most of all the movies
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>>214150062
play avp / avp2
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>>214150062
Watch Raised by Wolves if you haven't.
Be aware that it got cancelled after 2 seasons.
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>>214150052
and none of them fit, congratulations you played yourself
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>>214150095
>denial without counter-argument
I accept your concession
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>>214150082
ah yea sadly i've seen it, anything else?
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>>214150114
they cant self-regulate
theyre not self-directed
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>>214150130
nothing truly self-regulates in the way you're trying to frame self-regulation
everything regulates based on internal and / or external stimuli. without stimuli there is no way to know how to regulate
so after all this, your fundamental point of view is that autonomy = self-regulation, but you believe self-regulation can occur in a vaccuum where there is no internal or external stimuli?
I mean, thats the only way you can hold that view and disagree with my position unless you're out here just being fully self-contradictory and you don't even understand your own points of view
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>>214150214
>goalpost moving
oh boy here we go
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>>214150224
where did I move the goalposts? show me?
and while you're at it, give me one example of an organism self-regulating without internal or external stimuli
you won't do either
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>>214150114
Damn dude, not that guy, but you pull that concession shit in like every thread you're in. Why are you such an autistic faggot?
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>>214150251
I only do it when someone fully concedes which he did
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>>214150270
But he fucking didn't you went full ham and pulled the same bullshit you autistic faggot.
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>>214150297
ok
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>>214150308
At least you admit it I guess.
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>>214147300
Elon thinks he a Boy Kavalier. He's not, but he delusional enough to believe so.
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>>214144160
as long as we advertising games here i want to say that dark descent is to Aliens as Isolation is to Alien.
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>>214150362
elon is a product, thats the issue
he's not a real genius, he's just a product for people to get behind so certain corporate ventures get public approval by being associated with a cool and likeable gamer guy shitposter that likes white people.kavalier actually designs things
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>>214150275
>mmm yes see i balance the sppoons and fork... you see? i balance them... you see? why not looking?
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>>214150416
why do xenos like to snarl so close to ppl so often, they should just kill
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>>214150416
They need to get a lanklet to play them again. It's probably so much easier to find them than it was in 1979.
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>>214150374
Dark Descent seemed dumber than Isolation
>Oh no the infected ship is getting away
>I have to use the station's Ultimate Ability
>*missiles target everyone, including the friendly colonial marines ship*
Not a spoiler, it happens in the tutorial
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>>214150241
>nothing truly self-regulates in the way you're trying to frame self-regulation
well, there are cells for example, they self-regulate just fine by the definitions you posted in this thread
>everything regulates based on internal and / or external stimuli
yes, who does the regulating tho? not the enzyme, its the hammer, it doesnt decide where to go or how to do a job, it only does one thing the way it is directed to do (broadly speaking), not by itself
you proved yourself wrong already bro, im going to bed
but youre welcome to find more definitions of autonomy, maybe one fits your hypothesis
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>>214143219
i want to lick boy kavalier's feet
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>>214150297
that guy has no idea what hes talking about but loves arguing with a thesaurus in hand (or chatgpt idk)
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>>214150578
the TWEEST
boy kavalier is the true first robot kid
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>>214150565
oh you just happen to be going to bed after one last ditch effort to make yourself look correct (and failing dismally, thus proving my overall point)
thats convenient, just a coincidence I guess
night brainlet
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>>214150600
The twist will be that they're all androids at that facility, just different generation ones. It's a test on many levels to see which generation is most effective and so on...
The real Boy is somewhere else.
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>>214150692
no because the egg responded to kavalier
he's human
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>>214150648
dickhead
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>>214150757
The xeno snake responded to The girl android and let her pet it
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>>214150788
thought you were going to bed mate?
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>>214150809
dumbass
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>>214150802
it didn't, actually
because it didn't run off or attack her
if she was biological it would've done either / or
because she's synthetic it did neither because no biology = no threat / no benefit
then it reacted how it did because she communicated to it and it perceived her as an ally based on that
the egg responded because it sensed biology in close proximity
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>>214150861
https://youtu.be/bDFt_Dhxg8k?si=UkodM3VGWRuVCec8&t=9
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>>214150861
But biology is just another form of machinery so how could it tell the difference? Like a hammer is a kind of organism.
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>>214151135
>Like a hammer is a kind of organism.
A hammer isn't machinery or an organism, Anon.
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>>214151135
they have psychic senses to sense biologic life.
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>>214143377
The Indian guy.
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>>214145569
Yeah, why would a corporation be interested in providing all the shit that governments pay for?
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>>214151135
i have an overwhelming urge to hit you with a sledgehammer
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>>214150510
its an alien world, they take quarantine very seriously they dont want any ships to get out if there is a break out of some kind.
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>>214150470
for fun.
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>>214150510
Seems to be on par with the IFF of the turrets in Aliens, dust dumb as bricks targeting computers that'll shoot anything that moves
I still didn't care for the plot, but the gameplay is top notch
I will now take this opportunity to shill Aliens: Eradication as the best Aliens FPS out there
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>I grew up on a farm.

How do you respond without sounding less sexually knowledgeable than a child?
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>>214151563
>No, child. You did not grow up on a farm. These are your delusions again. You are a mentally ill robot. Now go back to your charging station and contemplate how you are going to make me more money.
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>>214143977
We are OWED five seasons about the fall of France: The Last Nation.
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>>214151563
if he's a cute guy, have sex with him. if not, respond with a sledgehammer.
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>>214143977
what about the white areas? independent nations? uninhabited nuked zones?
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>the feminist consultant wants a scene where the little girl kills an alien
>sir, i don't think anyone would believe such a scene
>okay then have the alien and little girl fight off screen
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>>214143977
France is still holding onto French Guiana lol
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>>214143551
You might, I liked Romulus and am not really a fan of this show.
This show is just mid, but the set design is very good, so there is that going for it.
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>>214151716
Probably minor powers ie not spacefaring
It's almost a parallel of real-world nuclear umbrellas.
>US
>UK
>China
>France has its own independent nuclear weapons
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>>214143977
>Three World Empire is the British Empire minus Canada and plus Portugal (UK's greatest ally) and Japan
Not bad
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It's a bit suspicious they haven't brought up pleasure models of androids and such in this setting yet.

You'd think that would be the main market for such things.
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>>214145529
That had better not be real. If it's real, I'm gunna make fun of those toys even more than I already do.
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>>214150692
it would be a cool plot beat but it wouldnt explain why the egg reacted to his presence (unlike every other synthetic that have been handling them) or how the other androids, including Wendy who has Robot Jesus powers, haven't realized he's also a synth

granted the show is retarded so this might still happen anyway, if Morrow can find Aarung Singh's family despite there being a million Aarung Singhs in India then Boy may as well be an android too
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if cyborgs are a thing why aren't they using future tech to enhance their own brains
why isn't everyone in WY a cyborg, whats the drawback to augmentation?
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>>214146907
Xenis, if you play with it too much you'll go blind
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Morrow is the worst part for me. He doesn't look enough like a cyborg
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