/AFAG/ - Avatar Fire and Ash GeneralPrevious thread: >>216782789
AND HERE'S TORUK COMING OFF THE TOP ROPE!
kirigang we eating good
Do Navi have retractable fangs or is it just a creative choice by Cameron when to use them in a shot?
>>216788799 #RDA is a state-tier corporation anon. It’s a British East India style quasi-state entity on a global scale. The lore is that the Venture Star took the equivalent resources of a small country, and even its partially full cargo sold for enough to make a profit. The bigger problem for humans is that Pandora is way too far away. A 16 year round trip is simply unmanageable. Europeans were working with a 3 month round trip to the New World, and even they couldn’t establish a permanent presence in North America for nearly a century. The human presence on Pandora feels tenuous and fragile because it is tenuous and fragile. Humanity is way overstretching itself here, and it’s only the lack of Navii coordination that has allowed them to get the foothold they did. I mean the Jake Sully/Navii counterinsurgency news hasn’t even reached Earth yet. The colonist are acting completely independently for the entire course of the last two movie. If anything it’s a miracle that the entire operation hasn’t collapsed under its own weight already.Amrita is stupid, and I regret even making up an argument to defend it. But it does make sense in a “AI data centers in space” sort of way, where the point is not making a profit so much as it is keeping the suits invested in a project that is suddenly looking much riskier and more resource intensive than before.
>>216789790And people thought Cameron was a pussy
>>216789387>Canada is part of the US domestic box officethey're already our 51st state, just make it official
thoughts on Eywa? What is she?
Bravo Cameron
>>216789942NTA. Amrita is only stupid if you assume that the income distribution is as it is now. It's not unthinkable that in the XXII century, when pretty much all of Earth has been stripped off of most value (so almost all that's left is mining or going to space), the one last valuable thing is keeping youthful, and the wealthiest are willing to pay enough to keep the operation going with a hefty profit. So in essence: RDA is a profit-oriented, quasi-state gigacorporation that happens to assist humanity in colonizing a faraway moon, but their main drive is profit, not making sure as many humans as possible survive or thrive.
>>216790018An AI overseer program, built to monitor, balance, and maintain Pandora (which was a lifeless rock until it was terraformed by the same aliens).Everything worked fine for millennia, until humans showed up. The alien race who built "her" did not anticipate anyone so primitive and stupid as humans being able to get their asses to Pandora. Every known race sheds their violent tendencies before they figure out interstellar travel. Except humans. Eywa isn't sure what to do.
>>216788853I don't think she sleeps for more than an hour tops. She's got too much shit to do. Like pillaging and looting and scalping and heart-eating and blood-drinking and drugging/initiating new members and shooting an entire arsenal of RDA weaponry for fun and whatnot. Not to mention fucking Q's lights out.
More like Fire and Ass
>>216790018Mommy.
>>216790152>Eywa isn't sure what to doshe's learning though >>216789790
I think when Varang blows that powder up Quatrichs nose, the visuals should have been much stronger. >People go to Avatar for the visuals which means a big missed opportunity besides Varang lighting her fingers on fire and some bloom effect>Could've done something with Eywa, like he hallucinates a dead Eywa or her on fire or something about how Varangs way of life is death and it gives him that choice dynamic that's not over Spider >Opportunity to make Varang even spookier/sexier>Could have been one of the movie defining moments that draws people in for the spectacle but he kept it pg-13
>>216790040So she's basically saying>these hippies can do what we do but without destroying their environment
>>216790208Jim should have shown a flashback of the volcano eruption and the beginning of the fire tribe in that scene.
>>216789790>>216789858Kiri will keep growing. Will Spider get big too or stay human sized?
>>216790433>>216789858>Avatar 4 will have an 8-year time jumpthey're going to make babies.
>>216790456MILF Kiri, GILF Neytiri? How far is Cameron willing to go?
>>216790433kiri may not grow full navi size because shes a clone or whatever the fuck. Spider might grow bigger than a human because he's one of them now
is abatap still alive? Has he seen fire and ass yet?
>>216789942The issue for humanity in the past was about human factors, for example moving workforce and everything being dependent on raw manpower, then you also had to protect it with military etc.. It was a huge undertaking that required manpower for every single thing.Realistically speaking humans on Pandora should be able to keep things going with robotics, AI and minimal amount of human presence.This tech factor should enable for a continuous supply of materials being shipped to earth.You can also make accurate calculations with AI about growth and predict the production needs in the future and scale the shipments accordingly.I don't think that having a permanent presence on Pandora should be any kind of an issue. The real problem is that humanity wasn't going hard genocide mode with the locals and tried a humanitarian approach instead.
>>216789858She had weird voice in this movie. Didn't really fit the character model. I don't remember if it was the same in the old movie.It's also possible that I'm imagining it all
>>216790725It was like that in the Way of Water too. Sigourney Weaver is too old to be playing a 16 year old.
>>216789985that was badass
>>216790871
A rare photo of Neytiri's actress (Tso'ee) eating noodles on a filming break. She's not actually three meters tall, it's just a good old camera trick.
>>216790785Good to know I wasn't imagining it. Yea I guess it was that she sounded older than you'd expect. Maybe not only older but I don't know hard to describe, talking style or something. Not that it was bad performance just came out weird maybe even otherwordly.Apparently the actress is 76 years old.
>>216790900checked but cursed
>>216790954>just came out weird maybe even otherwordlywell, yeah, cuz she literally is otherwordly. Idk I think it's interesting, although Sigourney Weaver will be over 80 when the 5th movie comes out.
>>216790898Do you think he threatened his editors with an assault rifle too?
>>216790018An actual god of the planet and not a program or anything. I also think this is the last time we will actually see this form of eywa. What strikes me the most is Eywa is obviously focused on something else and she has an indifferent look in her eyes when being asked to help. Not that she doesn't care, she did send the planet to respond, but more that God has some pretty pressing matters to attend to on cosmic scales. She doesn't even turn her full face to her immaculate conception. She also has human eyes. I think that she could also possibly be the god of both Earth and Pandora, and the planets and guardians of said planets are more interconnected than we think.
>>216789790So the humans are wiped out?
>>216790208They most probably felt they shouldn't have trippier visuals because they cut off the equivalent scene for jake in the first movie where it had a drugs induced vision of the eye of eywa in a ritual, and quaritch's journey has to be parallel to histhe eye tattooed on varang's palm is a parallel to that, but it just doesn't work the same without that deleted scene, also because quaritch has to miss the experience of seeing eywa and pandora as a whole while jake had that experience and tries to convince quaritch about it in this movie
>>216791617
The chairman of the RDA
>>216787140>>216787161>>216787181Realistically there would be a mix of people from the American, Canadian, British and even Australian military being hired for Pandora. Rather than exclusively US Marines but Cameron wants to keep the plot America centric. Let's be honest, the plot would make more sence if Jake Sully was an Aussie soldier instead since aussies are known for being insane. also Australia apparently doesn't have marine infantry for some reason, which surprised me since the Aussie militaryis based off the British and they are famous for their marines
>>216789790I love Siggy so much. She got me diamonds in this scene
>>216789985>Jim practicing responding to each and every avatar hater
Oh my science! Is that another heckin’ blue Smurf cgi slop fest?! CRAVO BAMERON!!
>>216791603It's extremely obvious that it's a caretaker program. It's focused on maintain the ecosystem for billions of organisms across a large moon. It specifically has defenses against anyone trying to access its higher level functions and will push them out or cause seizures. But if you can force your way in, you essentially gain control of the planet wide network to set it to your will.
>>216792112I would jump in the theater and shout kino when he is revealed. But they'd probably spoil it in the trailer
>>216791617>>216791660That would've been fucking tight, but i guess they didnt want it to be too trippy because the trip world, the dream world, and the Eywa matrix kinda have to match up.
>>216792112I would forgive Cameron for making A2 and A3 repeats of each other if he did this.
>>216790018a consciousness that arose out of the intricate neural network of flora and fauna on the planet, it aims to perpetuate itself and so its main focus is maintaining the balance of the ecosystems at the planetary scale.It may or may not all hinge on a panspermic interstellar fungal organism that has become endosymbiotic with most complex lifeforms on pandora, if this is true then it's possible it has ways to propagate itself by producing spaceborne spores of some kind, and may or may not have done so before, meaning that there may be or have been other such consciousnesses that have risen on other planets full of life.
>calls Quaritch a shit commander>decides to sort things out herself>performs zero recon>has zero reserves>no AA/point defense for aerial attackers>jobs the second she's attacked>sucked into a magnetic vortex and dies instantlyI can't think of a more disappointing end for a character with so much potential
>>216792640Interesting take. So like a non-malevolent version of Lavos from Chrono Trigger?That would be cool if Cameron was influenced by Chrono Trigger (i know he's into anime nerd shit) because Chrono Trigger is obviously influenced by Terminator.
prediction for movie 5: quaritch melds with eywa and drives pandora like a spaceship all the way to earth to kill all humans
>>216792640>ways to propagate itself by producing spaceborne spores of some kindto continue on this, a relatively easy way to reach escape velocity is to ride volcanic eruptions, if that's viable then it's possible that eywa strategically arranges its spores that are meant to go spaceborne over volcanically active sites, and/or even have ways to cause said volcanic activity with a measure of will, the ultramagnetic material of pandora may be used to interact with and manipulate the tectonic and volcanic activity by touching the geomagnetism of the core of the world another method may involve riding the extremely potent magnetic vortexes seen in the 3rd movie, which may or may not reach the outer atmosphere in any case the growth of massive/important trees undoubtedly related to eywa over rich deposits of extremely magnetic materials is way too coincidental, and the rarity of the material, to the point it seems to exist exclusively on pandora makes it unlikely that a panspermic organism might rely on natural formations of ityes, my theory is that the magic roots synthesise the unobtanium, and that varang's hometree was destroyed by eywa in an eruption she caused to shoot her seed into outer space
>>216792669Women are not meant for military leadership roles.
>all your friends get killed>you get killed>megacorp brings you back>basically their slave>all your friends get killed>again>boss looses sight of mission>obsessed with kid that's not his>seduced by some alien priestess savage>he gets you grounded>boss's boss goes out and gets everyone killed>again>limp wristed corporate bureaucrat and compromised boss that got you killed the first time are back in charge
>>216793074>That's just wrong- Corporal Lyle Wainfleet
>>216793074I wonder what will happen to him in 4 and 5. Hopefully he won't just get randomly killed like the rest.
>>216792911>to shoot her seed into outer spaceto continue on this, spreading biological material may not be the exclusive aim of the eywa-panspermic-superorganism, it is shown amassing information from the creatures connected to it, and it is shown having dogmas helpful in its continued existence and the balance of the ecosystem which are most definitely codified from past experiences, and if it has way to carry genetic matter to another world, it may have ways to carry information from another worldone possibility is that it codified its dogmas on pandora from the ground up, learning and fixing whatever problem the more intelligent creatures it met, interacted and interfaced with, but it's also possible it's carrying these dogmas from previous worlds, meaning it might have interacted with very similar intelligent creatures elsewherewe are used to the idea that the universe might create eerily close and even compatible alien humanoids not just once but multiple times due to our cultural background of space operas and the deep desire to encounter blue space boobs, but it's a statistical absurdity in a setup like these movies where even the most out there element is vaguely rationalised and made scientifically sound at a distancewhat I'm saying is that eywa genetically engineers humanoids as helpful hands in maintaining its gardens, and as decentralised brains to elaborate experiences and information, which she then gathers compresses and ships together with the spaceborne seedone ramification is that if someone in the story was able to dig deeper and deeper into eywa's consciousness it might find information and experiences or even the uploaded minds of aliens from other worldsand that earth's humanoids were also engineered by a spaceborne seed, but at some point earth lost its magical fungi, leaving humans without directions from their creator, morally balancing element and ancestors
>>216792669Isn't that line the one quaritch used in the movie shortly before jake surrenders?
I want to protect that smile
i haven't seen it but if if what i read is true spider being accepted by neytiri and jake means he will be an even more important character later on. he survived the trials and may even become the new netayam in a way.
>>216792669Supposedly the role was going to be played by a man previously but the actors turned Cameron down. I really wish he had found someone with as much presence and military bearing as Stephen Lang to pull off playing another grizzled tough commander. She was terrible, and I wanted to like her. She did almost nothing in the first movie, then just talked shit in this one but was constantly humiliated since no one in the movie took her orders seriously. Quaritch didn't, Garvis didn't, she was a laughingstock. The General deserved a huge climactic fight like how Quaritch went out in the first movie.
>>216793350I want more sex between her and colonel cold cheese
>>216789744Saw the Imax 3D yesterday, I've heard of post Avatar depression, but I have the opposite of that. I feel alive for the first time in years.I'm going to go do something with my my life so I can watch Avatar 4 with a smile.
>>216793788I had a pretty bad post-Avatar depression, back in 2010. I started taking short walks outside to "clear my head". Over the weeks, those walks became longer and longer, and my weight started to drop. When I noticed the weight loss, I started to change my eating habits too.I was a 132-kilo blob in January 2010. In June 2010, my weight had dropped to 100 kilos. In June 2011 I was 72 kilos and I could walk 30 kilometers.I can't walk 30 kilometers anymore (I can just barely reach 18 kilometers), but I haven't gained all that fat back (I'm currently around 79 kilos).So yeah, Avatar *can* change one's life.
>>216793362He won't be a more important character later, this was his big movie. Next one is Kiri's, apparently.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQghy9ZtY4>Wahhh wahh wahhh why isn't every sci-fi movie le Warhammer 40k
how would their children be?
Did Cameron and his team ran out of ideas for new vehicles?Like everyone was creaming their pants how great they were and he just stopped with it in 3 and recycled everything from 2
>Around 5.2 million domestic moviegoers went to see “Fire and Ash,” according to data from EntTelligence, a massive decline from the 8.7 million that ventured out in 2022 to see the opening weekend of “The Way of Water.”it has never been more over
>>216794234Trump's economy killed it. People can't afford to go to the movies anymore.
>>216791292Based "Iron fist" directing
>>216793371>since no one in the movie took her orders seriously. Quaritch didn't, Garvis didn't, she was a laughingstock.This. Quaritch would never have tolerated a subordinate calling him a "jackass" the way she let Quaritch call her one.>>216792931and this
>miles gave weapons to the locals>just like back in afghan during the cold war haha what could go wrong>he brought them back to human HQ because??>spider is the most important human on the planet>they lock him up without guard or surveillance >he escapes and somehow makes it out>marine science dude steals a truck and helps jake escape>he is never seen again>fire witch just runs away>miles dies off screen again, trust me bro
>>216794297>>216794234$25 for a ticket got me fucked up
>>216794348>he brought them back to human HQ because??because he was becoming one of them. And he wanted to impress Varang>Spideralso then the general decides she doesn't care and is willing to kill Spider just to kill Sully>marine science dudeI hope they develop his story in the next one, he can join the other human's that side with the Navi. Maybe even get his own avatar
spider can now breath, jake says aw shit if the humans get him they can scan him and duplicate it, of course spider gets captured and the humans scan him, data is sent to earth, gg pandora is fucked but spider escapes and everyone pretends it's fine now?
>>2167942142 and 3 are basically one movie split in two, they were filmed at the same time mostly. We'll have to wait until A4 to get actually new stuff.
>>216794339What's going on in this video? We never did this type of shit in the army
Sex with Varang
>>216794339>Petty Officeryeah, she's petty all right>>216794531>What's going on in this video?a womanlet on a power trip
>>216790018>What is she?Someone who is mighty and hears you
>>216794234There's 2 cartoons out now that families are going to.
>>216794523I heard somewhere that he originally planned 2 and 3 to just be one movie.
Na’vi women will get conquered by human men once the news of catgirl gfs reaches Earth
>>216794078kiri and spider are inseparable
>"kill and harvest all these tulkun. We'll make a year's quota in one day"wow great plan captain ahab. how do you meet next year's quota but all the tulkun are still dead?
>>216794627Yeah it was originally planned as a trilogy of sequels. Then split the first sequel in two due to the size of the script they were working on (tho tbqh i bet its because this is the "Water" movie and he wanted to spend more time doing ocean stuff on screen kek)
So how are Spider and Kiri going to... you know?
>>216790208That wouldn’t have required actual creativity on Cameron’s part, not just reskinning earth biology in neon colors. Not showing what happened when Varang does the tail connection dominance thing was such a cop out. Cameron’s characters apparently have no inner life. Even when they connect with AIwawaa they just imagine themselves in another exterior material situation.
>>216794824she is going to kiss his peepee and then sex
>>216794863Would have*
>>216794214it's because 2 and 3 were one movie, so they shared most concept workthey just introduced the air traders and varang early now to have something to slap on the posters
>>216794191Little blue monkeys
>>216789744bros who else was a little disappointed plot wiseit just felt like 2 again with fire navi except the fire navi didnt even get that much screentime to delve into their lore...
In a lot of ways, I feel that Avatar would work better as a TV show than a movie. That way James would have endless time to develop his world and characters rather than just doing endless rehases.
Chuds will never be happy with this series unless a drop pod smushes Jake halfway through Avatar 4 and a guy in power armor walks out, turns to the camera and says "hello I am John Warhammer"
>>216794824the next timeskip is of 8 years, so yes
>>216794863The first movie had an entire scene of what is basically an Ayahuasca trip cut/unfinished. I think he probably just has a hangup depicting a full on drug fueled trip on screen for a "family" movie more than likely, and also maybe its a ratings thing
>>216794824Sigourney demanded in her contract that she get a shota
>>216794959If it was like in the old days with 30 episodes per season maybe but nowadays tv shows barely get 8 and that's never enough to flesh out a series
>>216794959a big draw of Avatar are the visuals. It would be hard to get the budget for top-tier CGI like this, and also these graphics make it kino on a big screen.
>>216794959These movies are Cameron's Star Wars. They're his passion project which he wants to be big events. He wants millions of people to enjoy seeing them on a huge screen with great sound and be wowed by what they created. He wants to tell a story too, but that's secondary to just experiencing his world of Pandora. TV would never compare.
>>216794009I started eating healthier after first Avatar and lost weight. I don't know why, I just decided I would.
>>216795200Because Jake went on a whole spiel about how they hunted natural food in the forest and ate it. He knew where it came from. Unlike the mystery meat slop the humans tried to feed him. That latched into your brain.
>>216794959no one in their right mind would pour these amounts of resources into a TV series
I liked parts of it but it's my least favourite so far. It's more like a compilation of scenes than a movie. There are no quiet moments or connective tissue; like a TV show edited down. The emotional high points dont hit the same because of this. There's too much crammed in it with no room to breathe not to mention the fact that it runs across the same ground as the last one. It was worth it to see Neytiris tits tho
>>216792669>orders everyone to abandon ship>doesnt
>>216792640>>216790018Where is earth’s eywa? Desd? How did we kill it? Jake said we killled our mother. So maybe RDA found out eywa and killed her off screen? I need answers.
>>216795346>Neytiris titsProof
>>216795380We never had one installed by whatever engineers created life on Pandora.
Read there was a reference to the seed bearerWhat was it?
>>216789744>AFAG
>>216795443my dick lol
>>216795380Earth's Eywa is the warmongering father. Avatar's story is about the farher and the mother having a lovers quarrel and then making up through their kids
>>216790018>What is she?
>>216795380Dead in ancient prehistory and completely forgotten except for remote myths like the one of the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden or yggdrasil
>>216792640There’s a 0% chance Pandora is a naturally occurring biosphere or even subject to the rules of evolution in the first place. Apex predators don’t just evolve the ability to get brainjacked by cat-apes so that they can be taken on a joyride or blown up by a helicopter or some shit. If Eywa is as hard-scifi as the rest of the setting, then it’s the caretaker of some insanely advanced alien species’ luxury resort/nature preserve.
>>216794824This creeper me out because I just imagined granny weaver kissing him. There were some scenes where she moved like that Irishman de niro webm
>>216795658>implying you wouldn't make out with granny Weaver
Can someone post a Varang wallpaper please
Imagine
>>216795672>and now we film the scene where Kiri bullies Spider by riding back and forth on his face!>ahhh nooo, sigourney stop! don't rub your bush on my face! Ahhh! Wait, can we do another take? I forgot to call her Kiri. Might need a couple more takes
>>216795689Imagine being Ray Liotta in this scene
>>216795646spider shows that the queues can grow onto a preexisting animal, which means that most of the biosphere might have evolved normally and then hijacked by the neural symbiont, which eventually became endosymbiotic so the evolution of the normal animals is plausible even if still conveniently familiar, it's just the na'vi themselves that would need to be designed for the thing to make sense
Anyone else think the movie moved too fast? There were all these artificial jump cuts like there were important scenes cut out. Extended confirmed?
When the hell are they gonna reissue the 4K Blu-ray of the first movie
>>216795757>Just pretend this skeletal bitch with no ass is sexy and we can get past this scene
>>216795763The na'vi were obviously designed because the girls are way too sexy
>>216795769Jim said he has roughly 20-30 minutes of scenes that were ultimately trimmed off
>>216795769I notice similar cuts in the 2nd movie too. When you watch the deleted scenes you can't rewatch the film without being extremely cognizant of those cuts.
Movie looks sick hope I find time to see it in theater. (Just had a baby)
>>216795816>>216795826I noticed them in way of the water too but the character stuff was still there. It feels like a lot of character moments got lost in this one.
>>216795870Congrats :)Don't worry there's nothing coming out that will take away premium formats for a while
we just going to pretend quaritch wasnt raped by that ash lady?
>>216795886He was raped into betraying his species and becoming her slave
>>216790898>tree hugging hippy>also obsessed guns and military tech
>>216795805That's unironically the ultimate point, it all goes back to that: Cameron doing avatar exclusively because he got a hard on for a blue girl during some acid trip/dream in college. The audience and the protagonist needing to empathise with the aliens (which means wanting to fuck them), and the story requiring a convenient reason for the conflicts to end and for the similarities to be explained (and discovering that humans and na'vi share a creator does it).
>>216795886He enjoyed it so it wasn't rape
>>216795886No, I am quite certain that she repeatedly sodomized him with her tail and then forced him to lick her asshole
>>216795886Non-penentrative rape isn't rape and sexy women can't rape.
>>216794959An animated series set in the Avatar universe could work.
cute cat
A father took his son out the theatre after he asked about Neytiris nips when I went. Shit was class
>>216795956She non-consentually penetrated his kuru and forced her way into him intimately. She raped the Colonel.
>>216795993KWAB
>>216795982>Don't toy with my kuru, miss varang!
>>216795983>Cameron doing his best to try and make sure boys are heterosexual >father panics and rushes his boy out lest he see a female nipple and be interested
How does it feel to get kuru raped?
>>216795982*rape cat
>>216795993>penetrated his kuruit's not a penetration, it's a chokehold at worstand she's hot so it doesn't count
when quaritch was interrogating a village one of the secops guys zapped a navi's ponytail nerve thing
The mighty Quaritch taken like a woman!
>>216796033She's certainly that after what she did to Spider.
>>216796071In front of Kiri btw
>>216795982>>216796014>Yes, please slap me again, evil stepmommy
>>216796020It's like getting kissedSo I have no idea
>>216795886I'm not pretending it didn't happenI'm also not pretending I care
I want to suck his cock so fucking bad.
>"Con- sent? What is meaning of this word?"
>>216796179It's a place, like Con-go
Anyone have this in 4K?
>>216796203They'll have a baby in the sequel right?
Has there ever been a plausible reason why RDA do not simply start to breed tulkun in captivity and give them lumbar punctures for amrita? Nobody does that with whales IRL because nothing they produce is that valuable, but with amrita being literal immortality juice this goes in a totally different direction. Or is it just that Cameron needed RDA to be pointlessly cruel?
>>216796282The whales need to suffer first for their juice to work
>>216796071>>216796087What? Ctx.
>>216796271She'll become pregnant and Quaritch will have to choose between his duty as a soldier and his wife, all while his human son has already taken a side
Wait so is the tree of aewa suppose to symbolize isreal?
>>216796282>a plausible reason why RDANo. Whatever logical question you have about the RDA, there answer is always "no" because this antagonist is inept, stupid, cartoonishly evil and incompetent at the same time
>>216796315Varrang kuru-raped Spider and rode his cock until he cummed inside all while Kiri watched
>>216796203>stops neytiri from killing jake, making them bond and breed >stops spider drom dying, so varang and quaritch can meet and bond (and breed)>causes a virgin birth so she can meet and bond (and breed) with spidereywa is playing 4d interspecies cupid, I see her sick game
>>216789744does the new movie have any cool new alien creature designs? i really liked the shark and whales form the last one but i wished there was more interaction with alien animals like in the first
>>216796357It has the least new designs out of the 3 movies, aside from varang's winged mount and the sky merchants' jellyfish ships, it shows the sea otters for a split second that were cut from the 2nd and has some assassin squids, nothing else
>>216793178It would be nice if he made it to the end.I like cool background characters that stick around.
>>216796348Sorry, I don't believe you.
>>216794615lol ok jim
>>216796437Trust me broI watched the extended version on imax
>>216796357There's alien giant squid that Kiri sics on RDA in the finale. >>216796342I guess the only interesting part then is what Ubisoft did to their IP license to produce a game in 2009 with a totally even-handed portrayal of both sides.
>>216796348No, Kiri was rimming him. You must have gone to the bathroom
>>216793178It doesn't seem like he would defect for the ash na'vi and quaritchI'd make him the leader of the second generation of recoms, now cybernetically enhanced
Lyle is subtle comedy gold in this movie
>>216796437
So would two male na'vi touching kulus be considered gay?
>>216796494It's criminal that he got absolutely nothing for being a dutiful sniper-wingman
>>216796514What did Jimmy Cameron mean by this?
>>216796524Only if they don't say No Homo first
>>216796524only if the balls touch too
Has Cameron ever addressed the fact that all of Pandora ecosystem practically requires deserters from the humans to defend itself? (Conduit of Eywa? Parthenogenetic clone of a human scientist. Toruk Makto? Human deserter. Single most prominent demonstration of Eywa's biomorphic capabilities? Human deserter.) Isn't "white savior narrative" a very dirty label to be stuck with in modern Hollywood?
>>216796514Osananajimi bros... our response?
>>216790725>>216789744Sigourney Weaver forgot the accent she did in Avatar 2 for the ADR of Avatar 3
>>216796535Absolutely. Lyle didn't even get to participate in the final battle. Just hanging out playing Xbox on base. Probably get killed by Quaritch next movie
>>216796590You're not seeing the bigger picture: eywa is not just defending itself, it's paving the way for a takeover of the humans.It's only natural that would require converting and using the humans first and foremost.
>>216796357>>216796456>giant squid I was hoping for the bad guys to ride on some t-rex looking alien but that sounds cool as well.
>>216796590Cameron needs to address the fact that the people in the afterlife are merely clones
>>216789744This version of the movie is totally different to what they showed us at a test screening. The guns Jake collected at the start he actually handed out and trained the forest navi to use in the one I saw. Q didn't die. Loads of scenes not even in this one were included about a terraforming project. Q killed the female general. It was massively altered in just 6 months? What?
>>216794824incest in a blockbuster is a first right?
>>216796675I think James wants to avoid bodyplans that are overly associated with dinosaurs
>>216794956the entire fucking final half is different anon like totally different they changed huge amounts of the movie I think because of Gaza or some shit.
>>216796733They wanted to see if you'd leak it
>loses her sister>loses her father>loses her hometree>loses her ikran>watches half a forest burn as the sky people return>forced to leave her tribe and home>forced to live with sea tribe who hate her kids>loses her eldest son>accidentally breaks her father's bow>watches her greatest enemy threaten to slice her adopted daughter's throat>thinks that she and her daughter are going to drown surrounded by cold metal>has to bury her son far from her home and tribeNeytiri is for suffering
>tfw your CO orders you to stand guard outside the fuck hut and listen to him get pegged
>>216796712does he? the na'vi still consider dying a big deal, they're under no delusion of the memories of their ancestors being nothing but echoes instead of a real continuation
>>216796794Well I didn't but I expected it to be at least similar to what I saw then
>>216796773Not only that but ground animals are just way too easy to kill. You just machine gun them, artillery them, or lay down mines. All the horses and such got mowed down in the first one easily. They needed big rhinos with thick hides to do anything. The whales were only safe due to water and the depth charges being nerfed.
>>216796357The crazy thing is that there are probably dozens of krazy kreature koncepts that have never been used outside of some artbook or shovelware game. Even back in the 90s scriptment there's cool shit like this thing called a slinger that shoots its head at prey, then the head chirps so the body can find it and reattach itself, that never show up in the movies.
>>216796769Bro?
>>216796823Isn't the point of a test screening for the audience to give feedback on stuff they like or don't like?
>>216796801>>accidentally breaks her father's bowif it was an accident it would hurt less, no, she broke it in a fit of needlessly hateful rage, so she has the guilt of misusing the symbolic bow she was tasked to care with and of betraying the good nature and morals she was raised with
>>216796804>tfw you have to train a bunch of primitive savages on weapons while your boss claps alien cheeks
>>216796804>Colonel, you're going to get me killed...again.>give the savages a bunch of automatic rifles>they immediately start firing them into the air on full auto because it's so much fun to make thunder!>the barrels bounce all over, and eventually into your direction putting a bullet through your dome scattering your recom brains out into the sand>the Ash Na'vi share a good laugh and get the barbeque warmed up to start eating your corpse
>>216795689correct me if I'm wrong, but Sigourney loves doing stuff like this doesn't she? I can't remember where, but I swear I read something about her pushing for her characters to have sexier aspects to them. good on her, as long as she's having fun
>>216794700that's literally how real life works without environmental laws. We almost hunted real whales to extinction until laws were passed. We hunted other species to extinction. We cut down forests until we passed laws protecting them. We were overharvesting fish, lobster, etc.>>216796282>>216796342they're a massive migratory animal. Breeding them in captivity would be extremely difficult if not impossible, raising them in captivity would also be difficult if not impossible, and it probably takes decades for them to grow large enough to harvest. They're also possibly more intelligent than humans.
>>216796850that got designed, and also kiri uses part of it for her knife allegedly (and I think the choice is symbolic there), so good changes of it appearing eventuallyI'd say he's reserving its presentation to act as a visual parallel to whatever infodump they have to do in the 4th or 5th movie about eywa being in a similarly symbiotic relations with the rest of the planet, which has now merely been introduced in passing, but not truly been hammered properly
How would the Alien or Predator fair on Pandora?
>>216797080Predators would have a fucking blast. It'd be like going on an African safari for them.
>>216796870Q killing the female general sounds way more kino than her just inexplicably staying on the ship. DAMNIT!If they wouldve interlaced and streamlined the events of 2 and 3 together, merging all duplicate events, and called it Avatar: Water and Fire, it would have been KINO of the highest order. Like i can see that mega-movie in my head and it's frustrating that movies cover the literal same story beats AGAIN.
>>216797080James conceived the thanator with the idea it could "eat a xenomorph queen for breakfast", so he probably thinks the planet is more dangerous than the xenomorphs, but they would probably make for a truly nasty horror story for a few clans, before they're somehow integrated into the biome.
Are there really 2d showings at Dolby Cinema. I'm looking at a theater that has "Dolby Cinema 3D" and "Dolby Cinema at AMC" as different options
>>216797080desu now I'm hoping they make a Predator-Avatar crossover where Predators try to hunt Navi and other Pandora creatures.>>216796357>>216796850>>216797033Varang's tent was built with the jaws of some giant creature. Idk if we'll ever get to see the living creature they come from, but it shows that there are some other massive animals out there.
>>216797169Well, they definitely have the 'behind the scenes' of Quaritch killing the General. I would have loved to have her and him karate fight then he gets the upper hand and kills her
>>216797194I always thought this design was shit. It looks like something he drew as a child
>>216797320You would say that about a lot of real animals. And not like you could make anything better
>>216790040Even if Quaritch "dies" in his current Avatar body, can't they just take this memory tube and drop it into a new Avatar and boom back to normal? I assume they would also have a new memory tube with his up to date memories too, so they can choose what Windows System Restore point they want to make new Quaritch start at.I highly doubt they drop a tube into an Avatar and its gone forever. They make copies and backups of all this memory tube "data" right? Nobody can really "die" every again, their memories just keep getting reloaded into new bodies forever into the end of time.
>>216796282>shit worth morbillion dollars >implying implications it wouldn't be synthesized cameron doesn't even make a science babble cope about it being some super complex organic compound man can't just make "...because ok!" or the yields being so low that killing whales and sending their goop 6 years back to earth is somehow faster. And yet knowing spider has a mushroom in him will mean next movie humans don't need masks. One only hopes that the whales being mean now means humans just make immortality goop in a lab and we never have to see the PS2 ocean again.
>>216797354They'd never reload Quaritch since he's a traitor and failure now. And while they can keep making clones, it doesn't benefit you. You lose the coin toss every time. It's another person that looks like you carrying on getting everything you wanted. New Quaritch would be banging Varang and not you. At least with Eywa, she can move you to a new body
>>216797320He's no barlowe, but James is more competent at designing stuff than most people think.
I felt bad the guys that got killed by the squids, nasty way to go. I'd rather be shot.
>>216797440*bad for the
>>216797354They can, but I think that at this point the humans don't really value Quaritch anymore. Those Avatars are expensive (that's why they brought in Jake in the first movie), so if Quaritch was already borderline rogue and insubordinate in this movie, they would just move on and find somebody else to invest in.Also it would be bad for the plot because when would they have done the most recent memory backup? He wouldn't remember the last battle and saving Spider and probably a lot before that too. From a story-writing standpoint it would undo a lot of the development.
>>216797440I kind of felt the same in this and the 2nd movie with all the guys dying from drowning. I mean I know they're bad guys but still. There were scenes where the Navi just broke the glass on a sub and left the guys to drown.
>>216797464it would only undo the story if there's no way for the new requaritch to get back the memories of the first requaritch, but there are, if varang can act as memory transferor they could do a new requaritch and have the current one survive
>>216789985i thought jim hated guns?
>biggest whale gathering>amrita is the most valuable known resource on Pandora>armless guy says they are worth 100 billion>year is 2168>4.37 light-years away from EarthSo after labor and materials and travel time, how much is 100 billion adjusted for inflation in the year 2168?
>>2167968454 and any future movie needs to lean hard into "RoE prevented us before, now we're going to not be retarded on purpose"It's as big a plothole as anything that they're still using 20 year old now technology that the naavi are fully capable of destroying. The blueniggers can still win, it just has to not be dumb. Like in this one it'd have been perfectly fine to just have had the ~800 total people with half of them be civilian whalers face down 10,000+ naavi (like the explicit stated stakes of the first movie which didn't have this problem as badly) and have their big ships point defense guns run dry from shooting so many out of the air just for the remaining 6000 to swarm the deck. The ash tribe evening the odds as a screening force for the technology to keep on killin still makes them useful. Mechanically everything story wise still can happen, you can still deus ex aewa the 10 boat fishing fleet away, but the visuals/action on screen can be made believable to anyone with an IQ above 90 at the same time.
>>216797543He doesn't hate guns, he hates the "wrong" people having guns
>>216797542>or they could do a new requaritch and have the current one survivethis would be pure kino. The "new" one has the old memories and pure hatred of Navi while the original is sympathetic to Spider and the Navi.
>>216794627that would have been incredible movie, really. too bad.
>>216796860Doesn't really count since nobody knew it was incest at the time.
>>216796514We must be better Na'vi.
Ok but what are the implications of Kiri awakening the "warrior" Eywa? It looked like some sort of worst-case scenario emergency plan and probably the reason for Kiri unable to connect until she forced her way in. But now the beast is out and I doubt she's just going back to sleep again because the battle is over
>>216796769>incestThey're both adopted, neither one of them is a Sully.
>>216796514AAAAAHH HAHAHAHA OH NONONO
>>216797800maybe they scale up the battles for 4 and 5. Humans decide to launch a much larger invasion with the goal of wiping out the Navi so they can start terraforming and colonizing. Eywa fights back with all of the animals.
You just know there's at least one dude in the fire tribe who really wanted to fuck Varang and was simping extra hard all day every day. And then this sky person dude shows up and gets to fuck her within half an hour and becomes her mate and co-leader of the tribe and starts ordering you around.
Why didn't they just upload Jakes bros consciousness into his Avatar?
>>216797885>ywn be cucked by 10-foot-tall femdom Oona Chaplin
>>216797893they might not have downloaded it.
>>216797893He didn't save his memories. The USB was only for the personnel already on Pandora but Jake's bro died on Earth in a different mission
>>216797885
>>216797968I love how it's the same dude to whom Quaritch says "I'll remember you" after he unnecessarily pokes him with a spear
anybody got a compilation of nip slips in the movies?
>>216797169JC said theres 30 minutes of deleted scenes and hes open to a directors cut.
>>216796779no its quite similar?jake is caught... i thought it would end with that being resolved for 4 but no hes broken outanother match with a human demon ship and navi except this time whales join up tooquaritch yet again kidnaps the kids in the climax only for him to get btfo.. this time we get spider involvedits a shamehe shouldve pushed it back to make it more differentstory wise i feel robbed honestly
>>216794234A lot of way of waters success came from the fact woah avatar 2 finally released after a decadeI'm surprised this one is doing that well desu
>>216797464>Captured Jake, whole base celebrates and posts it to space tiktok. Treated like celebrity >RDA back him over General fucksup>random guy on the ground catcalls nateri in ash tribe getup because they look like they fuck human men.meme >but they don't like them! Surely humanity will betray their recoms and friendly tribes so he can be a gay faggot with jake in the woods muh hekkin redemption arc! repeatedly saying it won't make the 3rd movies only plot elements not exist anymore. He's not submitting to the fungus. The only person shortsighted enough to not like the ash tribe is dead. He also knows the naavi won't win and doesn't think aewa should win because the only ones he cares about, the ash tribe, were left to die by the very fungus that made the rest of the naavi shoot his men on sight in the previous 2 movies.
>>216797893he hadn't reached pandora yet, they had the brain scan there
>>216797994shit really? lol I missed that detail, kino though.
>>216798046>>Captured Jake, whole base celebrates and posts it to space tiktok. Treated like celebrity>>RDA back him over General fucksup>>random guy on the ground catcalls nateri in ash tribe getup because they look like they fuck human men.memethat was before jake escaped and the base started explodingas far as the humans on the base are concerned, the ash sniffers were the ones who did all that
Are there unused concept arts for RDA vehicles? can you post them
>>216798104that's thermonuclear cope but even if true >saves their asses in the boat fight every human survivor is because of quaritch and his local auxiliaries. Who clearly were allowed to rearm and fly off by the human base despite what the general said.
>>216789744Too many whales. Not enough fire sluts
on eywa we bussin fr
>>216798193I burst out laughing at every single subtitled whale line
>>216798184>>saves their asses in the boat fightboat fight that they ultimately lost, and badly do you really think the few survivors are going to be thankful after that slaughter? let alone the rest of the people at the base?
>>216796514what was cameron thinking. All I could think of was Sigourney Weaver in that fucking mocap suit kissing this 21 year old
>>216798232is this fag dead or not?
>>216798261I found it quite sweet and earnest, because I understand what Cameron was aiming for. But it was really close to the line of being absurd
>>216798193Lo'ak got drip frfr
>>216798270would
anyone else get the impression that the only reason we can get these fucking movies 4 years apart instead of 10 is because we've seen all the animals and places we're ever going to see? The next two movies are going to be the same recycled shit over again. The only reason I watch is for the autistic world building and if that's over, I will NOT be watching the next one.
>>216798232Why do all the fishniggers look like O_____O
>>216798193Do you think it's possible to have kuru sex with the whales? Asking for a friend
>>216798266>charge of the light brigade.jpg >naavi fought and died for us You don't understand humans very well anon
>>216798347It's just what fishniggers look like
>>216798345They've introduced earth lore, with people being aware of Jake Sully and hating him. So I expect we'll go off Pandora next oneIf Robert Rodriguez directs the next one I fully expect to see an Avatar in a trench coat
anyone got the story leak of fire and ash where it was much darker story that got scraped?
>>216798345same anon, same.thats why I liked the first one the most
>>216797997Well thank fuck.
>>216797997>30 more minutes of zoomers riding whales and saying bro a lotNo thanks.
>>216798261>>216798312It really makes no sense for they to communicate like that when the whole thing of Avatar is all creatures on the planet being capable of connecting their minds with eachother
>>216798400Wasn't Kiri killed at the end of that?
>>216797997>>216798497>Yo Lo'ak, wanna go to the other side of the Island and see if that pasta place is open?
>>216798531The scene where they were in the river and joked about that got laughs from the audience."You can't let go, Tuk! What's that thing we say about Sullys?""...Sully's stick together?""NO, THE OTHER ONE!"
>>216796733>This version of the movie is totally different to what they showed us at a test screening.Was this you?https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/212983050
>>216798232My showing had blacks in it and when he showed up some guy in the front row screamed "HEY THE DOMINICAN BACK!"
>>216798400Most of this movie was written and produced almost a decade ago, so it's safe to assume any more recent "story leaks," which don't match the real thing we got, were bullshit larping.I liked the one which ends with the humans winning and declaring independence from Earth, setting up a future scenario where different factions of humans are fighting each other over who gets to claim Pandora. Could have been better than what we got which ends abruptly and gives us little to no idea of the new status quo and how much fight the humans at Bridgehead City have left in them
>>216798287he dead
I didn't really read up on this movie at all. Did everyone already know this was just going to be "Way of Water Part 2" or was this a huge rug pull?
>>216789858why do na'vi have human teeth anyway, they're descended from lemurs
<blatantly reposting from another thread>If the humans want the aliens to side with them why don’t they just show them like, air conditioning and refrigerators and shit? Why bother trying to fight when you could literally just improve their quality of life to the point they would be begging you to occupy them? They have cloning immortality technology, and post-modern medicine. Do you know how many of these paleozoic fucks would shit themselves over canned food that can last over a year?
>>216798734>little to no idea of the new status quo and how much fight the humans at Bridgehead City have left in themMovie magic of changing the scale of the viewed narrative. Humans are fine, naavi are not, whales got to live. The reality of the situation >Bridgehead has a 2mile DMZ that around it protected by auto cannons controlled by AI that their fishing fleet conspicuously lacked, completely unassailable without ID tags or in a total lockdown. All life is extinguished around it regularly so no aewa ex machina can occur >Population in the low Ten thousands based on size and crowds/lorefluff >Total human deaths of battle at the most like six hundred; the big boat evacuated multiple lifeboats and the small ships we know from the previous movie have a crew of like 70 counting all hands and fastboat crew. >Previous big naavi war party of the first movie numbered several thousand warriors, 10k+ possible if I remember the dialogue about the sat images correctly, so we can assumd similar or even more numbers with the additional tribes>This one got fucking decemated Cameron focuses on the whales living, the aewa zerg destroying the Japanese fishing fleet, and quaritch and Jake fistfighting. If they had cutaway to company man at bridgehead go "nonononowaitwaitwait this is going to cost me so much money daddy on the board isn't going to like this" it'd be undercutting to the idea personal survival was a victory in and of itself.
>>216799068In the first movie Parker says they tried all this but Eywa cockblocked him by making the Navi content with mud.
How does bligger pussy keep winning over us human bros?
>>216799068Fungal hive mind unironically made them zombies who can only kill. Only the ash tribe is free of it and immediately did just that.
>>216799068did you miss the entire first movie? that's what they were trying but jake concludes that it's pointless because they already have everything they needbesides, modern technology is how humans killed their planeteywa clearly has prescience about the dangers of industrial society though, maybe she read kaczynski
>>216799089>Japanese fishing fleetWhat's your theory about why pic related was switched out to either 日川 or 日II on the harpoons? I still can't think of why he'd do that.
>>216799068That was already explained in the first movie, the humans alteady offered them all the modern life comforts but they rejected them because they are happy dancing naked and having raw sex under starry nights
Will Avatar 4 be the last one what with this one flopping?
>>216799089>undercutting to the idea personal survival was a victory in and of itselfThis is also how Way of Water ended, and it worked better there since the story was smaller-scale and more intimate.Meanwhile, Avatar 1 managed to end while also giving us enough of an idea of the aftermath of the battle
Na'vi are p-zombies
>>216799089long-term the na'vi are objectively fucked, cameron can't keep using eywa magic to give them the win
>>216799238>cameron can't keep using eywa magic to give them the winDoes he know?
>>216799068they don't need or want air conditioning or refrigerators or canned food
>>216799068>canned foodthere's even a line in the first movie where human Jake talks shit about the food he's given because with the Navi he hunts and eats real food
>>216796166me too anon
>>216798261Did it first time, had forgotten the whales could actually speak...
CAMERON PLEASE FIX THE FUCKING HAIR ON THE NA'VI
I haven’t watched the 2nd or 3rd movie.Why hasn’t the RDA carpet bombed these blue space cats yet after they’ve proven to be an actual threat?
>>216799158Company went bankrupt after the fiasco last time. New company was founded and bought up all the old supply, slapt the new logo on it.
>>216797464The answer is GMO soldiers who can breathe Pandora air, and probably 10 feet tall humans, but no USB tail to corrupt their judgment
you think at least Varang helped a brother out and told an ash girl to give Lyle a blowjob or something to stop his incelhood. The mangkwan have many fine women.
>>216799312because it's bad business, and haven't actually been an actual threat, just a nuisance
Do you think we will see Kiri's nipples in the next one if she grows up?
>>216799320Plenty of ash girls are probably just as impressed by the gun. Just like having a car can get you poon when young.
>>216799312They've got one arm tied around their back from the hippies on Earth. Very poetic shit
What are your predictions for how the saga will end? I think somehow with the help of Eywa or some Pandoran biology Earth will be repaired.
>>216799131Makes me really want to see the headcanon where RDA are less retarded and take Grace's research seriously. I bet the whole approach to the planet if they realize that they are dealing with a planet-wide sentient parasitoid organism that is capable of radically altering the physiology of any of its hosts (case in point - Spider or Grace) or mobilizing them en masse for self-preservation, the approach would be different. Maybe starting with oh-shit-oh-fuck targeted WMD deployment, and proceeding to bio-mechanical installations that tap into the trees and roots with synthetic kurus and keep praying to Eywa to not go crazy.
>>216789790>>216789858>No twenty minute long graphic sex scene between Kiri and Spider that finishes on a zoom in on Kiri’s pussy as cum leaks outYou are a coward and a hack Mr Cameron
>>216799344>he didn't catch the slip
>>216796804>CO is a massive speciesist who believes human are superior>Until he meets a goth alien, goes full native and fucks herNa'vi pussy must be out of this world.
>>216799158pic of the name change?
>>216790433It's (one of) Cameron's self inserts. He will stay short for the mini-giantess gf experience.
>>216799362wasn't there a script outline posted here that is roughly following what has panned out where eywa seed earth and humans return to monkealthough it did say that the ash people had access to secret na'vi tech and they were originally super advanced space-farers
>>216799386Cameron half measured that by making bridgehead destroy all life to keep aewa from being able to warg into it anywhere near the human base. They're fully aware aewa "exists" and keeps sending plants and animals after them, they just don't do anything further about it. After this one if the next movie doesn't open up with them orbitally bombarding world trees to push back the planet hivemind off their continent the setting is just reduced to cartoon logic.
>>216790433the actor is pretty tall nowcameron will find an excuse to off him as he's not serving his giantess fetish all that well now
>>216799320Do we even see any other female Mangkwan besides Varang? Or did they keep all the others male so they could be more easily killed without issue?
>>216790018Wanna find out?
>>216792152We don’t really have enough soldiers to justify splitting troops between the army and a Royal Australian Marine Corps
>>216799557Yes but all the females of her tribe shave their heads like the males.
>>216799320doesn't look like it
>>216799471There is NO WAY Kiri and Spider didn't have insane USB ponytail sex as soon as he got his.
>>216799557>>216799576
>>216790018Either a massive planet wide fungal growth, some kind of sentient hive mind parasite or a literal goddess.
>>216792640eywa knows too much, she laid down the law to the na'vi about technology, no reason that a naturally occurring brain could know the consequences of making a steam engine
Did anyone else notice Jake slipping into his australian accent at the standoff with quaritch and varang before he gets captured? It happened in the first one too but not in the second one.
>>216799362Kiri grows to fully embrace her powers as Eywa's avatar and ends the conflict in Pandora. RDA collapses but some humans can stay there peacefully, being given the ability to breathe and live there. Finally, Eywa sends back a way for earth to be saved and restored.
>>216799386the lack of compassion that the humans have is dumb, like everyone knows that whales are like human-level sentient
>>216799400>slipIt's funny to remember that every single nipple in this movie is 100% intentional and Cameron personally decided each one of them should be there.
>>216799688the story needs the RDA to be comically evil and incompetent
>>216799688the first one was a lot more tactful as Selfridge could be reasoned with don't know why cameron binned all the human perspective stuff, it was probably my favourite part of it
>>216799312>haven't watched the other movies>but remembers the name of the human faction which is barely even mentioned in the movieshmmAlso the humans don't have that level of resources on the planet, it literally takes 6+ years to travel between it and Earth and they don't have Star Wars-level spaceships, just sized up SpaceX rockets.
>>216799312Real answer is they don't want to destroy Pandora's environments because they need to keep the moon potentially habitable for themselves.
>James Cameron is 71>Stephen Lang is 73>Sigourney Weaver is 76he needs to hurry the fuck up
>>216799708Nah. The Na'vi are FULLY 3D modelled, i.e. all parts are there. What they do is edit them out. Sometimes forgetting. Although sometimes it's probably intentional.
>>216799805Cameron is probably growing his own real life avatars to prolong his lifespan and keep making Avatar movies
>>216799837Knowing him it's probably some kind of fish so he can live in the ocean he loves so much.
>>216799858
>>216799688There are already several humans who defected from the RDA, they appear more than once in this film, but most would stay in line. People in real life also know that whales and dolphins are some of the most intelligent animal species, that doesn't stop countries like China from scraping up the entire ocean floor and emptying it of all life.
I was only able to sit through this for 3 hours because of cute blue feet, ass and tits
>>216799816As far as I'm aware there are no Na'vi dick slips when a loincloth accidentally flops out of the way
imagine blasting death grips full volume to the ash navi
>>216799688the same humans who slaughtered indigenous humans and enslaved other humans?Humans lacking compassion is pretty normal, especially when money is involved. They even indicate that not all humans are like this; in the first movie they're hesitant to kill all the natives because it would bring bad publicity for the corporation.
>>216799908Because Cameron is straight so we get na'vi tits instead
>>216799937Are there any Na'vi that have big tits? They all seem to be flatties.
>>216799952Ronal had huge tits when she was pregnant
>>216799890>cute blue feetToo big to be cute.
>>216799952the water lady had massive pregnant knockerswhich again makes no sense since they're not mammals
>>216800012you’re weakgay
>>216800023They probably are considering human DNA can be spliced into na'vi to make the avatars and said avatars can breed with na'vi
Could kudzu survive on Pandora?
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>>216798174the official avatar art books are FULL of amazing designs. go check them out.
>>216799937Still means the male Na'vi are not fully 3D modeled
>>216799816Lol, you dumbass. This isn't a video game - every single frame is meticulously pored over by dozens of people including Cameron himself. Absolutely nothing happens by accident.
