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It's not looking good edition
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>>216893329
The show? Yeah it's not looking good.
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>>216893329
That's a sizeable chin on that girl.
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even reddit is making fun of the show now
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>>216893329
They decided to subvert expectations so hard they pissed off the entire audience
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>>216893329
I skipped past this, did they break up or decide to get married?
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>>216893374
>so hard they pissed off the entire audience
No, just mentally ill faggots. I think this season is absolutely terrible, but it is my duty to praise it to high heavens to piss off homos.
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Dustin has been a crybaby faggot all season and Steve should not have apologized to him. Should have drop kicked his pug looking ass down a flight of stairs instead of gently wrestling with him.
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Why are they going after this guy when he's not even one of the writers?
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>>216893402
Yes
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>>216893402
They broke up because white people can't get married and have children, we need to propagandize the youth into extended adolescence forever.
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The good guy team going into the finale
>Mike
>Eleven
>Dustin
>Will
>Lucas
>Joyce
>Hopper
>Steve
>Jonathan
>Nancy
>Mrs. Wheeler
>Holly
>Max
>Derek
>8
>Robin
>Robins girlfriend
>Murray
>Erika
>The teacher
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Jonathan is the most raped character in TV history
>Does nothing at all after season 1, actually regresses over the course of the show
>barely talks to his own sibling and mother
>gets mogged by his girlfriend who doesn’t even really like him, has to whine and whimper to her that he’s scared.
>gets shit on all the time by her former boyfriend
>breaks up with his girlfriend so awkwardly most people couldn't tell it was a break-up
>literally wakes up with cum all over his face to signify how much the show has raped him
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>>216893416
>this guy i knew for 10 minutes died like a retard
>i'm going to treat my friends like shit 2 years later just because
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>>216893408
Name me one thing that was good either writing or acting or storywise then. I don't give a flying fuck about your war with fag loving brazilians on twitter tell me one thing about these 3 episodes that wasn't in the range of total shit to just boring
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cute
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Here's that teenager I was telling you about
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>>216893474
How the fuck does someone get granny crow's feet at 27?
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>>216893448
She'll probably get back with Steve or something.
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>>216893438
Ted "Walk-em-down" Wheeler
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>>216893474
Oh come on its not like the rest of the cast are selling it well either >>216893459
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>>216893409
Queenpin
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Reminder the final episode plot has to:
> Defeat Vecna
> Save the kids
> Exposition what is going on with the mindflayer
> Defeat the government/scientist
> Exposition where the falsemattter came from
> Exposition Vecnas origin story re the cave
> Jonathan trans arc
> Tie up 11 and 8s future
> Set up the spinoff
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They are really going to do the cliche "one of the explosives wont go off so I have to do it myself" crap with Steve arent they?
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>>216893470
Holly
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>>216893452
I'm sure a couple soldiers will turn on Kay, too, now.
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>>216893473
Looks like a dude
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>>216893329
I love that canonically Vecna calls Will a fucking faggot offscreen and makes fun of him for being Gay and it actually worked to get him to lose his wits.
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>>216893488

call it
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>>216893539
a cute one
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>>216893519
> Set up the spinoff
No, they already said it has nothing to do with anything related to these characters, story or setting. It's a spinoff in the way Stranger Things is an X-Files spinoff
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>>216893519
The spinoff supposedly has little to do with Hawkins. I'm guessing it'll be about the experiment that created the wormhole to begin with.
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>>216893329
Duffer Brothers have Daddy issues
>Hopper is troubled by the loss of his little girl. Family collapses. Frequently mentions having a rough father himself
>First season has character called "Papa" who is actively abusive and manipulative
>Jonathan/Will have shitty father who is forgotten about by S2
>Eleven is adopted by Hopper and immediately Hopper becomes an abusive tyrant which Eleven is routinely justified in disobeying
>Dustin has single mother
>Billy has abusive Dad who torments him and exacerbates all of Billy's issues
>Only father figure routinely shown is Ted who is always shown as out of touch or incompetent
>Ted is given one moment of heroics and is gravely injured and then never shown in the season again (until finale?). Not a single character mentions him by name or is shown having concern
>literally the only good Dad shown is the Russian prison guard who must surely be canonically getting his ass blown out in a CIA black site right now
>every other character is gay

What did they mean by this?
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>>216893488
Why does every actor on this show look like a Trainspotting character?
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I'm debating whether or not to watch the series again
I really loved season 1
season 2 was worse, but I finished it
I watched 2 episodes of season 3 and then abandoned ship
I've heard season 4 is good but I have never seen it
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>>216893560
A cute dude? That's gay. You're gay.
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>>216893565
Zoomers are pumped for of drugs, much like trainspotting characters.
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>>216893490
Yeah even that's propaganda buddy. Switch back and forth, break up and switch to a new guy, get back together, whatever. This serial monogamy shit is almost more subversive than promiscuity.
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>>216893470
The Jonathan&Nancy break up talk in the cumroom and Dustin’s breakdown re:Steve were actually good scenes well written and performed (but the build up terrible).

I enjoyed 8’s escape and finding the pregnant women (retcon on the origin of the children’s abilities aside).

That’s about it from all 3 hours tho
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>>216893591
you're the one looking at a woman and all you see is a dude

fag
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>>216893610
>for of
Full of. What the fuck.
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>>216893430
Because he’s the only one that works on the show that was genuinely queerbaiting the Bylers online. And they fell for it hook, line and sinker.
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>>216893625
A woman that looks like a dude. You're the fag here
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>>216893462
VAXX status?
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>The Bridge (7.4) has officially become the 2nd lowest rated Stranger Things episode ever only behind The Lost Sister (6.0)

>Congratulations to the team!
>@strangerwriters
>@netflix
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>>216893519
>Defeat Vecna
Essy
> Save the kids
Part of defeating Vecna
>Exposition what is going on with the mindflayer
Already explained that Vecna controlled it/is the mond flayer
>Defeat the government/scientist
Bomb will destroy the base and kill the Doctor
>Exposition where the falsemattter came from
Unironically not necessary
>Exposition Vecnas origin story re the cave
Will be part of Vecna's defeat and used against him
>Jonathan trans arc
What?
>Tie up 11 and 8s future
They'll probably just make it so they lose their powers when Henry dies since their powers come from him
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>>216893647
Both of those ratings are way too high
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>>216893647
Bylerfaggots are unhinged
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>>216893647
>you didn't make mike gay even though you've never even slightly suggested he ever was
>bad writing!
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>>216893564
That’s classic Monomyth 101 in storytelling.
Look at Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.

Besides Ted who is typical 1980s dad, Lucas and Erica’s father is okay too
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S4 penultimate episode cliffhanger
>everyone gearing up to go fuck vecnas shit up
S5 penultimate episode cliffhanger
>I like penis, specifically mikes
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>>216893670
>>216893668
It was shit even without the gay coming out scene. This season isn't even half as climactic as season 4 was
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The finale is going to be worse than Return of the King with how drawn out the ending(s) are
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>>216893587
Season 3 - 5 is an entirely different show tone wise. You were right to abandon it.

Season 1 is great as a standalone. S2 is fine for what it is but is unneeded.
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>>216893685
yeah i don't know what level of copium you have to be at to pretend the only issue is pissed off slash fangirls
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>>216893685
It wasn't a good ep, no, but we know what's driving the hate.
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> all the white kids are attacting Holly bc they have been brainwashed but not the black ones

you cant make this shit up
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>>216893679
Star Wars at least has good father figure role models for Luke. Obi Wan in the first movie. Even Han Solo in a way. The Duffer's (Netflix) cannot and will not write in positive father figures or role models who aren't gay, black, or a woman
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The entire military plot has no bearing on anything and feels like it’s there just to give Hop & 11 something to do.
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>>216893687
S3 was alright. S4 is where things just got weird. They were just throwing shit out there that not only didn't work, but contradicted previous seasons, like Max suddenly giving a shit about Billy and being all traumatized.
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>>216893651
>Already explained that Vecna controlled it/is the mond flayer
Yeah, the twist is that that is not actually the case.
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>>216893754
The fucking main military guy is the worst actor on the show he sucks so hard. His face annoys me
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>>216893647
Seriously deluded shippers. Mike all thr time is shown to be straight. Shippers Byler is happenning! You were baiting us! What?!
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>>216893727
>max: thanks for being brave and helping me escape, now fuck off, little girl, you gotta save yourself
Legit hate Max now, desu.
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>>216893771
>the twist is that that is not actually the case.
Sure, it is. They didn't include that scene in the past and Holly wondering if that's how Henry turned evil for nothing.
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>show has required viewing DLC that isn’t even on the same platform
More people need to be upset about this
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This season doesn't even have the TV-but-a-movie cinematic feel of S4. I hope they release a documentary a few years from now detailing what the fuck went wrong with production.
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>>216893808
Max was such an asshole but I suppose being trapped there for two years does that to you.
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>>216893685
The whole season is evenly terrible. This episode was no worse than any of the others. All the downvoting is from those faggots, and you know it.
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>>216893808
Hawkins only has room for one coal burner.
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>>216893844
Nah. Besides, she was fine. Up and walking around despite being bedridden for two years.
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>>216893759
I hated Murray in S3. His speech to Hopper and Joyce in the car was the worst
>CHILDREN CHILDREN CHILDREN
It was just a re-tread of him psychoanalzing Jonathan and Nancy's dynamic because he was an adult and could obviously read the writing on the wall since they were teenagers. Him doing it to Hopper and Joyce was lame as hell as if he isn't written as an overbearing and obnoxious socially isolated conspiracy weirdo nutcase

Plus the Russian terminator and secret Russian base stuff was pretty fuckin campy. The Lab in S1 (and 2) was a pretty real threat and ominous. You felt danger anytime the characters got close. The Russian base in S3 was butt fumbled into by children who all got out unscathed. Fuckin retarded.

The other stuff in S3 was fun for what it was. But it had none of the grit or gravity of the first season, or even the second.
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>>216893402
I watched the scene without any distractions, and all I can tell you is that I've heard other anons claim the Dumber Bros twitted that it was supposed to be a breakup. I don't think they've ever had a human relationship, or they might have reworded the prompt and asked ChatGPT to try again on that one.
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>>216893754
Have you not been watching the show.
It all has to do with El’s upcoming ending. That the military will always search for her. So will she kill herself like Kali wants or escape with Mike like he wants.
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>>216893519
Let's go through it
>> Defeat Vecna
>> Save the kids
>> Exposition what is going on with the mindflayer
These three things is about the same thing, in other words defeating Vecna - Mindflayer
>> Defeat the government/scientist
That's why we have a bomb.
>> Exposition where the falsemattter came from
>> Exposition Vecnas origin story re the cave
It's the same as deafeating Vecna, it doesn't take much time.
>> Jonathan trans arc
LOL
>> Tie up 11 and 8s future
Easy. It's also related to the defeating Vecna.
>> Set up the spinoff
You don't even much time for this.

Pretty much it boils down to defeaying Vecna + epilogue.
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>>216893849
>9yo coalburner
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>ANON, YOU NEED TO RUN.
>RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
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>>216893835
>villain needs 13 vessels to complete his plan
>talks about defeating the darkness
>endgame is merging worlds
>controls monsters
>gets a last minute "redemption"
>backstory is locked behind another product on a different platform
wait is this fucking kingdom hearts 3 again?
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>>216893808
>>216893844
What the fuck was she supposed to do? Max's portal only works for her. She also stays there until Holly's portal opens too, at the risk of losing hers again. Max is the best character and you're all retards.
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>>216893849
Max doesn’t know Holly likes BBC like herself yet.
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>>216893484
That's cute. Don't smoke meth or crack, young fella, and don't move to the city, and you'll never need to worry about this.
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>hey Will ur gay lmao
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>>216893835
I'm sure they will "cover" the material events in the show, but I think it's stupid that they basically flipped on a decision they made in Season 4 by making the MF the big baddy. Originally he was, then he got replaced by Vecna, then they flip flopped on that decision after 4 came out.
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>>216893329
>We want to create more Henrys!
>Let's just give blood transfussions to pregnant women!
What the fuck kind of retardation was this? Why not just use the DNA from the blood to make clones?
>Hur dur cloning didn't exist!
Then why not harvest 8's eggs?
Why not just impregnate her?
Like how the fuck did anyone think giving a blood transfusion would give people or their fetuses innate powers? Like how does that even fucking work at all?
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>>216893903
>What the fuck was she supposed to do?
Maybe not leave a 9yo who she outed as being against the superpowered monster alone to fend for herself?
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>>216893519
It's over 2 hours long, so they have plenty of time.
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Will dying of AIDS in the last episode would be the most accurate thing about their depiction of being a queer in the late 1980s.
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Here's a simple visual for you.
Go take out five quarters and
MODE
stack them. That's $1.25. That was US minimum wage in
1967. So if you were a newspaper boy riding around on your bike, throwing
newspapers at houses for four hours, you made $5 a day. Assuming you work 260 days a year, that's $1,300 annual. Not bad for a kid in 1967. At that time, a US quarter was made with 90% silver.
Five quarters equals roughly one ounce of silver. An ounce of silver today? $50. That means the newspaper boy would have an annual income of $65,000 and he only works four hours a day. Not bad for a fucking middle schooler, huh?

This is what was taken from you and this is what these useless old fucks mindlessly pissed away on cheap restaurants, cheap gardeners, giving handjobs to billionaires and keeping third worlders like fucking pets.
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>>216893932
Just shows they had no plan really, S1 upside down and S5 Dimension X serve the same purpose, i remember when S1 came out they claimed the upside down true nature was planned out but i severly doubt it because it all feels very slapdashed together at the last minute
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>>216893903
She assumed that Holly's real body was in the upside down and let her go anyway.
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>Henry picks random normal kids "to amplify his power"
>after he massacred an entire room of actually powerful kids he could have easily enslaved
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>>216893894
I can't believe they teased Max getting killed in that scene instead of Holly. Like, right, I totally believed that out of the previous 6 times they almost killed off this bitch THIS was the time they were really gonna do it
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Elevens ass looked fat in the wetsuit. It was distracting
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But seriously what the fuck with Robin dickriding Steve out of fucking nowhere?
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>>216893982
That was before he got mouth raped by tentacles.
No wait actually he was already mouth raped and knew about the upside down so...
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>>216894006
girls arent really gay
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>Kali's shit colored sewer blood is useless
>They need a white girl's blood
Duffers being based again
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>>216893520
>They are really going to do the cliche "one of the explosives wont go off so I have to do it myself" crap with Steve
arent they?

Now they can since Dustin is back to being himself. It Steve's plan, he is more than willingly might take it upon himself.

Hopper's story is to learn to live after the loss of his daughter and not dream about death so that he could meet with her.
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>>216894018
The UD didn't exist. He had been to Dimension X though, even if he said (a few times) that when Eleven sent him there he didn't know what it was
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Is David ok?
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Bringing this over from PT

>hurr durr this show isn't game of thrones! Stop wanting characters to DIE

Let me bring you back to the beautiful land of season 1
>likeable character discovers Eleven sneaking food in restaurant
>likeable character is at first abrasive but softens when he realizes little girl is clearly scared and disturbed
>character is nice and thoughtfully questions her. Contacts authorities and gives food
>character is then killed by a Hawkin's lab authority for no other reason than being unknowingly in over his head

Further
>likeable character is a friend to one of the main characters
>main character has blossomed into an object of desire for jock at school despite previously fitting in with different crowd
>main character is invited to party, and brings along likeable character because she's nervous (realistic)
>likeable character is a little socially awkward and uncomfortable. Especially at seeing main character behave abnormally to impress the boy she likes
>she makes a social faux pas and kinda spoils the night for herself
>main character is infatuated and wants to spend the night with the guy she likes. Dismisses likeable character to pursue wants
>likeable character is distraught and takes a moment to contemplate before leaving
>likeable character is in the wrong place at the wrong time and is brutally killed by monster prowling around the town

>expecting writers to respect continuity between increasing threat levels of antagonists = GoT
>expecting characters to be actually punished for doing dumb shit like entering demon world or shooting random orb with shotgun = GoT


>Realizing Matthew Modine and the funky bunch and literally one demogorgon killed more people we care about than Morgouth Eater of Worlds and the Book of Revelations
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>>216893520
No, Steve survives. They all do. Even Eleven. Oh right, Murray dies
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>>216893554
Kino webm. Saved
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>>216893808
Max is the reason why holly is a coalburner
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>>216893897
top kek
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STRANGERVENGERS THINGSSEMBLE
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>>216894090
>spoiler
good, fuck that character and the ghoul of an actor that plays him
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>>216894083
I agree that ST started off as a show released in 2016 that could have been made in the 80's and is now a show that is very 2025 that felicitates the 80's and is fairly juvenile in many ways.
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>>216893402
Who the fuck knows but yes, they did break up. It’s literally a rigamarole of postmodern irony that was supposed of to be “clearly” a breakup. Seriously, go watch it. How was I supposed know that this is they’re being sincere and not just ironically opening up to each other? Possibly the gayest scene I’ve ever witnessed. Even gayer than Will’s coming out scene
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>>216893587
Do you like Steve and Dustin? If you do Watch the series, if not don’t do it
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I wasnt here when the first episodes of the season dropped so I wonder, what was the reaction to the CGI Will intro?

For me it was a completely un-necessary waste of money
>whole time my mind is trying to look for flaws because I know that's not him, so I am not focusing on the scene
>because is a flashback and we know he didn't die, we know he is not in danger so there is no tension
>it smells of retcon to pretend that Vecna had been written in from the start by the writers and to make Will look less useless
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I just watch this dogshit purely for steve.
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>Fujos and trannies turn on S5 and suddenly start trashing it for how godawful it is
>This sudden awakening into realizing ST S5 is the newest Game of Thrones S8 happened because their mentally ill obsession with Will fucking Mike isn't going to get enabled
>They're now not watching their gay fantasy show, but watching it for what it actually is which is worse-than-Syfy science fiction
>The complaints are legitimate (outside of the Byler seethe) and the same as people who always just watched the show normally
>Episodes now getting the ratings they deserve
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>>216894232
>I just watch this dogshit purely for steve.
He's the only one that is actually trying and hasn't aged like shit.
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>>216894231
it's not cgi. they literally cast a kid who kinda looked like
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Did Will turn gay because Vecna molested him in S1?
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SteveGODS, now that there's a clear path towards our bitch, are we gonna get her back or not?
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>>216894190
The show lost it's sense of reality and cruelty. In the first season Hopper is a washed up cop who's a womanizer and a pill popper who everyone in town talks about behind his back. The reason why is tragic, he lost his daughter, but people still hold him with a sense of disregard because of it (Lonnie, remember him, bad mouths his reputation in front of Jonathan) .

Joyce is known for being overbearing and unhinged. Because of this her initial concerns and intuitions are dismissed by many characters, including her own son, and even the audience. Who despite knowing the nature of the supernatural, are left wondering whether or not Joyce is actually losing her grip or reality or if she is too witnessing the same phenomenon.

The first season is full of really great and realistic character depictions and scenarios. Jonathan, Nancy, and Steve also all have great depth to their roles and personalities. The little kids as well also have dynamics that work and feel lived in.

This show used to actually fucking care.
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>>216894231
>it smells of retcon to pretend that Vecna had been written in from the start by the writers and to make Will look less useless
That's what it is. They are also trying to lay a narrative beat for this season.
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>>216894006
She's a good wingman (woman).
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Anyone saying this show is contrived or full of filler material is a fucking retard and should kill themselves
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>>216894242
Well, season 1 was pretty good though (and for me season 2 was just as good, but that's just me)
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Okay character’s who are involved in this mission to rescue the kids and defeat Vecna in some way
> Dustin
> Lucas
> Mike
> Will
> Joyce
> Hopper
> Eleven
> Eight
> Nancy
> Jonathan
> Steve
> Erica
> Murray
> Robin
> Robins GF
> Mr Clarke
> Max

That’s 17 (not to mention Holly or Derek). This is ridiculous.
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>>216894279
we're told he was bullied and called a fag before he disappeared so no
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>>216894242
>derail Will, Robin and by extension Joyce, Mike, Steve and Nancy characters to appeal to faggots
>This also derails the main plot btw
>faggots hate it and turn on your show
Welp
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>>216894083
The show got too big. The cast is bloated so now you have no minor side characters to help with the atmosphere. The plot is now world ending instead of just "a monster" so now a single monster running around is basically a non-threat. Not to mention whatever budget this series gets has clearly been diverted to the now popular actors. Think about S1's sets and locations. And now S5? 80% of the scenes are just the Byers house and the radio station.
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>>216894297
The show used to be driven mostly by characters, now its entirely driven by plot, mostly because there are too many characters. That's why this season feels hollow, it's just the show jingling the keys for several hours while the characters babble about what they need to do next, ultimately to achieve very little because the season needs to be 10 hours long.
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>>216894232
>guy that plays Steve is from my neck of the woods
>totally cool guy and everyone that knows him is happy for his success
Steve stays winning.
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>>216894284
No the writers said they want Nancy to be "independent"
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>>216894314
Then who did it, his dad?
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>>216893374
the /got/ special, jews lose izzat if they don’t piss everyone off or something
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>>216894313
That's just 7 more characters than season 1, and half of them won't do shit (Robin's gf, Mr. Clarke, Erica). Not a lot for 5 seasons
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i'm mentally and emotionally prepared for any ending except "all along the whole thing was mike's d&d campaign after will died". if that happens i'll burn down netflix's servers
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>>216894116
Vecna saved Holly’s life. If he doesn’t use the Force to suspend her fall in midair, she splats into the lab at 150 mph and turns into the goo that makes Jancy breakup.

The Vecna babyface turn is underway and will culminate with him destroying the Mind Flayer to save all the children. Then he and Will ride off into the sunset being gay together.

Such great writing. A+
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>>216894242
4chinners proven to be closet gay once again
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>>216894412
it was all a dream is the only way to explain away how fucking retarded the show has become
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>>216893511
BOGGED
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>>216894313
It's the final episode... it's not like they brought back argyle or that one dude who got steve/robin a job at the video store who used to be a minor recurring character.

Maybe it's because I find the opposite more annoying to me. Seeing people complain that a character was "forgotten" in the final season regardless of the screentime they've had up till the final season drives me crazy.
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>>216894348
did they forgot Jonathan actor is her favorite dealer
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>>216894424
>the Mind Flayer
Is that thing actually relevant anymore since they told us it was clouds formed by Kekna to channel evil energy or whatever
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>>216894424
Will is too old for Henry
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>>216893564
billy's dad was turbo-based
I applauded the scene he was in; the show tried to make it look abusive but it was just right
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Will Byers: I... I-I haven't told any of you this because... because I-I don't-I don't want you to see me differently. But the truth is... the-the truth is I am. I am different. I just... I just pretended like I wasn't because-because I didn't want to be. I wanted to be like everyone else. I wanted to be like my friends and... and I am like you. I'm like you in... in almost every way. We-we like playing D&D late into the night. And we like that old-person smell in Mike's basement. And we... we like biking to Melvald's for malted milkshakes. And we like getting lost in the woods, and getting lost in Family Video and arguing about what to rent and settling on Holy Grail for the millionth time. And... and we like Milk Duds in our popcorn with extra butter. And we like drinking Coke with Pop Rocks. And we like bike races and trading comics and NASA and Steve Martin and Lucky Charms and... literally all the same things. I just... I just... I-I just... I... I... I... I don't like girls.
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Give it up for the supreme queerbaiter and most Based Man in existence
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>>216894313
Max and Vickie are still at the radio station.
Erica and Mr Clark are watching outside in the tower.

The ones going to attack Vecna and rescue the kids are:
Eleven
Kali
Hopper
Joyce
Will
Mike
Lucas
Dustin
Jonathan
Nancy
Steve
Robin
Murray
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>>216894456
Not only Bogged but mongoloided
She looks like bleached Andy Gomez from Ciudad Juarez, Sonora
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>>216894493
[after a long pause, he starts to tear up. He looks at Robin, who gives him a nod to continue.]
Will Byers: I mean... I mean I do. Just-just not like you guys do. And I, uh, I had this... this crush on someone, even though I know... I know they're not like me. But-but then I realized he's just my Tammy. And by Tammy, I mean it was never about him. It was-it was about me. And I thought I was finally okay with myself, but... but then today... today Vecna showed me what would happen if I did this, if I told you guys the truth. He showed me a future, and in this future, some of you are just... are just worried for me. Worried that things will be harder for me. And it just makes me feel like something's wrong with me. So-so I push you away. And for the rest of us, we just drift apart more and more and more and more and more until... until I'm alone. And I know none of that has happened, and Vecna can't see into the future. But he can see into our minds, and he knows things. And it just felt so real. It felt so real.
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>>216894471
this tbqh
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>>216894469
MF hype is riding solely on the fact that the Duffers said the play is canon. It's possible they just retcon it again and revert Vecna to being the big villain.
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>>216894493
>>216894519
A triumph of the human spirit
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>>216894499
LMAO
Bylers are either:
Deluding themselves that Mike will still come out in the finale. LOL.

Pissed off and attacking the Duffers and this guy online for their perceived queerbaiting.
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>>216894519
Joyce Byers: Will, you gotta listen to me. That will never ever happen. You'll never lose me. Ever.
Will Byers: [as he is sobbing uncontrollably] Okay, okay.
Jonathan Byers: And you'll never lose me.
Lucas Sinclair: Or me.
Dustin Henderson: Or me.
Mike Wheeler: Or me.
Eleven: Or me.
Robin Buckley: [voice breaking] Or me.
[One by one, Jonathan, Lucas, Dustin, Mike, and Eleven embrace Will as they cry with him.]
Robin Buckley: Guess you didn't need truth serum, huh?


Masterful writing!
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>>216894519
Bringing Vecna into it is really shitty emotional manipulation, like shit what the fuck are you supposed to say?
>We have to praise him or his powers won't work
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>>216894459
peopel just like to complain, people spent years about Gendry rowing the boat
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>>216894334
that scene is so fuckin dumb when you know a woman doesnt have these kind of feet without wearing highheels for literally a decade or so.
It's just retarded she's supposed to be a teenage girl..
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>>216894354
Yes. Being called gay makes you turn gay.
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>>216893462
I was wondering the same thing, she looks weirdly ghoulish, maybe is the new hair or lack of makeup?
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>>216894532
Murray: [muttering under his breath] Fag.
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>>216893462
Robin is a drug addict this season so it fits.
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>>216893430
coming out as the emotional kick to set off the finale was pretty dumb
these people fight monsters for a living, they wouldnt care if someone was gay that much
that spot should have been some big revelation or tragedy and it's one of the most important spots of the entire series.
can you imagine if gandalf said he's gay right before the final battle?
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>>216894314
>S1 was written as a pet project and had no guarantees of further seasons or continuation
>Writers wrote that line because any kid who was a weenie or a softie would get called gay by other boys before 2008
>Writers made Will gay because Netflix panders to certain demographics for social media clout
>WOOOW THEY WERE PLANNING IT FROM THE BEGINNING
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>>216894583
The two towers were the cocks sliding in and out of his ass and mouth
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The big final plan to stop Vecna is based on:
>Dustin (a high school sophomore) and his interpretations of legitimately world-changing theoretical physics he found in a spiral notebook, physics that likely not even the actual authors understood when they wrote it
>Complete conjecture that Vecna's plan would PHYSICALLY draw the "Abyss" and the real world together AND that this process wouldn't stop their plans
>In fact, complete conjecture that that's even Vecna's plan, which to knowledge they're really only guessing at
>Timing their plan to be when Vecna's plan physically draws the two worlds together, which for all they know could literally be seconds of real-world time and therefore killing the entire plan in its crib
>Not using a helicopter, and instead using the radio tower at the last minute, because Dustin claims the wormhole is too thin for a helicopter despite (as far as I know no way for Dustin to have any idea how thin the wormhole gets, or indeed if the wormhole is even shaped the way it is in popscience)
>Ending their plan with an explosion to seal the Upside Down and close off the Abyss, even though Vecna has to die before this plan works and if Vecna is dead there is no rush to close the Upside Down and they can do it whenever they want instead of giving a second ticking clock to their OWN PLAN
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why Vickie ask Robin in episode 6 if she is drug addict?
literally what on planet earth made her think that ?
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>>216894568
Hopper and Murray lock eyes like during scene
>you seeing this fuggin fag rn
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>>216894609
she was stealing from the morphine cabinet with Will last part and she is a retard and thought the MP is looking for her because of that.
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>>216894272
>it's not cgi
Anon... this is what the actor looks like.
>>216894310
I enjoyed almost all of it (didn't like the Pajeet episode that almost looked like a failed pilot episode for a spinoff), thought Hopper coming back to the russian prison to fight again because it might distract the Upside down was an excuse to give him something to do, but I am not feeling this season, it has accrued a narrative debt and is not willing to pay it off.

Henry being the misterious guy felt too obvious, Robin is too fucking quirky all the time, is like she is high and has no turn off button.
Steve acting like an asshole to me is a character assassination, especially since him and Dustin were the best couple in S2.
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>>216894609
Because Robin started talking about aliens.
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>>216894609
>Sure, I'll help you steal benzos.
>You used the benzos yourself you addict!

>>216894605
>Exotic matter aka magic

>>216894583
>coming out as the emotional kick to set off the finale was pretty dumb
Even IMDB hates that episode.
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>>216894310
talking about s5 alone
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Didn't even think about it till someone pointed it out but I do assume those pregnant women aren't still in that military base in the upside down.

Be really funny if they were tho.
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>>216894665
>didn't like the Pajeet episode
Netflix made her as ugly as possible. Death to the male gaze.
They succeeded. She looks like some overweight 40yo lesbian Pajeeta.
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>>216894609
Because she literally looks like a drug addict now
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>>216894696
Eleven is going to give those fuckers an early abortion whether they like it or not
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>>216894605
No the Helicopter was dumb because we saw Holly fall out of a tiny hole. There's no guarantee they'd be able to find a helicopter sized one and even then clipping the rotor blades on anything would be death.

But everything else is dumb. Remember how in ep 6 Dustin said destroying the exotic matter would kill everyone? But in ep 7 it's okay to destroy it.
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>>216894696
i'm sure eight is a lying bitch and is manipulating eleven for some nefarious reason but i don't have proof.
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>>216894676
>Even IMDB hates that episode.
The episode is getting close to being rated worse than The Lost Sister and that's a pretty bad sign.
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which of the cast is going to have a career in 2 days?
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>>216894715
That is half of Hollywood in 2025.


The Holly actress is a nepo baby, right? She screams nepo baby. Complete miscast for the role. She's a 15yo playing a 9yo among actual 9yos.
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>>216894732
the proof is that she looks evil as fuck and hopper keeps giving her the side eye
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>>216894583
I guess the (bad) idea was that vecna would use his insecurity as a weapon...somehow. Because Will's fear of his friends' response. Or something. As if any of them have ever given him any reason at all to think he'd lose them over being a homo. They could have at least introduced some kind of drama over it at some point. Maybe a flashback to it being the reason his old man left or something. No. Nothing.
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>>216894749
murray's career has been consistently playing bit parts on tons of stuff. he'll be fine
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>>216894732
8 pushing 11 into the Abyss in the last scene and killing off the couple story will annihilate anything that was left of jeet and White race relations in the 21st century. I'm not sure they're aware of what's happening.
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>Jonathan: the man who was cucked to death.jpg
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>>216894749
steve already has one
maybe lucas in marvel slop
nancy would but her face is too weird
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>>216894676
>>216894715
its funny its so obvious to everyone involved even Duffers make joke of it
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>>216894773
>something interesting will happen and a main will die
>on this show
This fantasy is right up there with Byler shippers. If they haven't done it before, they aren't starting now. The jeet will sacrifice herself for El and everyone gets a happy ending.
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>>216894749
Max. She is literally making more money with her brand deals than all other actors combined of the show.
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>>216894749
hopper is fucked because he's a liability to his projects thanks to his drinking
winona ryder will be fine
finn wolfhart gets into bit part stuff, I think he's just nice IRL or something so he makes industry friends
Sadie is easily, easily the best actor on the show outside of Winona Ryder, she will have a career as long as she wants until she Lohan's herself.

everyone else is going right to the convention fanart signing booth
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>>216894749
The same ones that have one now. Idk I'm used to watchign shows with child actors that don't go nowhere. That david spade movie about being a child actor did some good choices since 90% of them were "I have never seen this actor outside of this movie since their show ended"

So 11 and which ever one was in ghost busters.
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>>216893409
ukrainian soldiers vs. Russian soldiers.
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>>216894609
The fact that she's been flaking on their dates, has aged a decade in their two-year relationship, and just stole enough drugs for an entire family to overdose with leftovers? Also, the claims of being chased by evil monsters when she shows up filthy, bruised, and shaking in the company of a guy who's a known associate of a local drug dealer who brutally murdered a universally beloved cheerleader?
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>>216894766
It would have been much better if they tied it into Sorcerer and moved on. I'm not against the storyline in principle but it was done in an extremely pretentious and patronizing way.
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>>216894820
>Sadie is easily, easily the best actor on the show outside of Winona Ryder
She basically has one character.
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What did Hopper mean by this?
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>>216894518
yeah her face is ruined she can barely emote
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Steve involution this season is atrocious and it's quite sad because he had a great development through the whole show only for him acting like the same retard from s1
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>>216894605
Yeah that whole plan is a clusterfuck.
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>>216894871
he's the only one who sees through her bullshit
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>>216894871
You posted this thinking that Hopper just hates poojeetas but in reality that's David Harbour hating the PA that took away his flask before 'action' was called.
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>>216893727
there's only two black kids there tbf
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>>216894822
Millie's got that Bon Jovi bag and lots of endorsements. She doesn't need to work. I think she has a deal with netflix anyway or some shit.

Steve will continue to do small parts and indie shit. Same with Sadie. Holly will probably get a show of her own in a few years.
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Did I fall asleep or they skipped some plot points? Where did the exotic ball go? Why did it disappear suddenly but conveniently? Was the hole in the wormhole wall fixed? Why did it stop sucking in stuff? Wasn't the whole wall supposed to collapse?
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I’m going to write an average Stranger Things season 5 scene
>”What happened? We almost died back there!”
>”I don’t know… something just… grabbed her… it was him. Vecna.”
>”Our plan was wrong. Damn it!”
>”Wait uh, so you’re telling me that my idea was wrong all along?”
>characters start bickering and arguing
>character from the sidelines that did nothing all season suddenly speaks up
>”Guys…Guys! I got an idea.”
>”What’s your new idea then huh dipshit?”
>”Look, I know this is gonna sound crazy, but…”
>picks up object
>”So our last plan didn’t work. But, I just thought of something. Imagine this Exposition Orb is like this object from a popular 80s movie. Has everyone seen that movie? All we have to do is act like the movie characters finding this object, and boom! We find Vecna.”
>”It sounds promising, but there’s just one problem… Will is gay.”
>”Then we just huddle around him and he comes out to us. There you go.”
>character repeats the plan
>music slowly swells
>”Alright I’ll admit, it might just work.”
>other character in the background goes “Booyah!”
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I have this dumb image in my head of like 100 years in the future some scientists are exploring the empty void that was once the upside down and steve's car just floats by.

Like the cores at the end of portal 2, but steve's car floating through the void for all eternity.
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>>216894930
and why did the white goop suddenly stop
why did it immediately harden
why didn't it melt anyone in the room
why didn't it do anything besides fill space
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>>216894766
>No. Nothing.
It's nothing because there's nothing. They probably made it up at some point to please Netflix.
>Oh no, the creepy white man is using the faggots insecurity to make the whole world evil. We must all be gay to prevent this!
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>>216893942
They clearly imply that's how 8 and 11 and all the other kids were created last time around, using Henry's blood.

It's retarded but that's clearly what they're rectonning it into.
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I only watch this show for hollycunny
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>>216894964
>It's retarded but that's clearly what they're rectonning it into.

>Have magical beings with magical powers from some magical world
>Noooo, they're all created by science!
>Because we somehow started the show with a science laboratory
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>>216894964
Yeah, that's the bit from the play or whatever. Anyone who goes to Dimension X gets fucked blood and/or taken over by the evil entity there.
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>Uhm...Steve? I don't think you, one of the few able-bodied adult men in this room, should have that gun. After all, I shot some cans 5 years ago and I don't trust you because Jonathan Byers couldn't hit those cans
>Go with Dustin and get a fucking spear
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>>216895009
Magnets, bro. How do they even work?
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>>216895029
DESU, a spear would probably be more useful against demos.
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>>216894871
That she is going to kill Eleven. Kali is saying that evryone in this room sucks and Eleven is fighting alone.
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>>216894732
I think she’s 100% telling the truth and fully intends to kill eleven once Vecna is dead to put an end to all the experiments.
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I don’t find Holly attractive because I’m not a sick demented pedophile freak. All pedos should die.
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How did Vecna find Max via Will if Will was nowhere near Max
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is it true?
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>>216893965
i bet you think M-pox is strictly a homosexual illness too, idiot
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>>216894949
Sweet bemear
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>>216894749
Sadie is the best actor on the show (except when Winona is given some decent material) and Caleb is a decent black actor which will give him good odds at getting decent roles considering that’s a limited pool.

Millie Bobby Bon Jovi is busy taking Arab blood money to advertise their shithole countries and has started adopting masses of children. I can’t see her remaining in the industry
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>>216895108
His memories I guess? Why Vecna needed Wills memories to check if Max was at the hospital is another question.
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>>216894937
kek
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>>216895152
That's also what I don't get. Like, where else would she be?
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>>216894964
From the play: whoever goes to the Dimension X, their blood changes and they are fucked by Mindflayer.
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>>216894524
>It's possible they just retcon it again and revert Vecna to being the big villain.
kek i hope this happen. the series is already imploding. this would be the cherry on top of the shit cake.
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>>216893329
>>216893402
>>216894201
>They're both about to die
>Asks if she wont marry him and whether she accepts his unproposal
>Most obvious interpretation is because they wont be able to get marry if they die anyway
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OBVIOUS!!!1!11
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Chekhov’s Cum Chamber will return
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>>216895029
Nancy loves her guns and can't see anyone handling them better than her. Yes, she pretty much thinks that nor Jonathan nor Steve are good shooters
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>>216893462
She looks like she and her mom could be sisters (disparaging)
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>>216895108
>>216895152
How did he not get those memories from Holly, either? Are you telling me the Wheelers never visited Max in the hospital, or nobody ever said "we visited Max in the hospital" in earshot of Holly?
The scene even makes more sense that way. If he got the memory from Holly, he wouldn't know where Max was specifically so the Demodogs entering the wrong floor as shown in the show is correct.
Vecna knew EXACTLY where Max was from Will's memories. Why didn't he open an upside down portal right in Max's hospital room?
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>>216893484
Lifestyle. Stay in church.
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>>216894871
Inject pregnant women with white boy's blood - kids get superpowers.

Inject pregnant women with pajeet girl's blood - nothing.

What they mean by this?
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Imagine being the actor for Jonathan
>Start season 1 as a protagonist
>Continue to play a big role in season 2
>Then get completely sidelined for the rest of the show
>Have to pretend you think it’s still fantastic in interviews
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>>216895225
Yes I assumed that he said "I un-propose to you" because they both thought they were dying anyways and said I love you. But the Duffers claim it was a breakup scene. Who the fuck decides to breakup in their final moments before death?
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>>216895127
Personally I disagree, I feel that while S2 didn't feel as fresh as S1, it felt like its characters were progressing, going forward I was fine with Robin as being just a friend, but the fact that they had a girl turn bisexual for her, Steve's development going backward and being antagonizing for no good reason while Dustin was trying to cope with wanting a friend to be remembered.......Nancy is overly abrasive too (and I fear for her anorexia), that doctor was right about the mother not being in a condition to see anyone.
Jonathan is like the same character from S2....except less important.

>>216893462
Meth, not even once.
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>>216893519
I haven't been watching, are they GOTing the show?
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>>216895029
The funny thing is that guns doesn't do much damage yo the creatures. You need to get to them very close and use bat with the nails or a broken bottle, fire - these things do the real damage, guns so far were ineffective.
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>>216895291
that's why those women looked so sickly
they injected them with pajeeta blood and instead of superkids they got septic shock
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>>216893459
>>216895301
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>>216893462
Between this and MBB’s boglips… it’s hard to watch
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>every 2 minutes of plot there must be 10 minutes of two characters arguing or trauma dumping or saying inspirational quotes
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>>216895029
he is meele b}uilt, so it checks out
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>>216894930
Lazy writting to justfy nancy and jona "break up" scene and 11 and co going back to the normal world
This season is filled with this forced situations and lazy excuses, they aren't even trying anymore
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>>216894964
Doesn't change the fact its retarded and there were better options. Seriously why didn't they just do the cloning shit and just show it keeps killing people.
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>>216895356
The show peaked at this exact moment
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>>216893727
noticed this too
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>>216894749
Joe, for obvious reasons. Harbour, technically, since he's still gotta be the Crimson Dynamo for the Avengers when they do the death of superman storyline for the eightieth time, but he'll probably murder a couple more women by that release date, so when it flops, he'll be done, I expect. Think the gingers might have some cheap cheesecake roles in a few low-to-mid-budget pieces about LARPers having to go on a real adventure, but they don't have the tits to be anything but the lead love interest, so that'll be their last role in anything but a podcast about Stranger Things that they'll stretch out even longer than the show.
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>>216895322
it's worse
you can excuse some degree of the GOT disaster on the show being way too big to adequately wrap up in a single season. Like even if they were at their S4 peak the showrunners wouldn't have been able to do it
S5 Stranger Things is worse because it's incredibly easy to handle what they set up for themselves, they just butchered it from every angle. Horrid character writing, zero-entertainment-value action scene design, no horror, terrible acting, bursts of 80s nostalgia bait that are actually painful, unsatisfying narrative arcs, and bogged out actors.
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>>216895291
Henry was a real deal while other choldren was just his copies who had his blood.
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>>216893564
>didn’t grow up in the pre 2000s
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here's your Mind Flayer bro
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>>216894854
Which is one more than the rest of those scrubs. You ain't wrong, neither is he, get along, y'all, nobody here had anything to do with making the show suck.
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>>216895408
Nah, that's gonna be Vecna's psychic Power Rangers Megazord he will fight the MF with.
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>12+ hours and multiple reshoots to do a coming out scene
>every other scene was just one shitty take
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>>216895408
And inside Vecna and children are going to ride this creature. It alreafy seems that Mindflayer was defeated snd Vecna took control over it.
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>>216894871
DH looking and acting like he'd rather be anywhere else
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>>216893647
I downvoted it because it was too gay (gay at all is too gay)
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>>216895329
Impacted colons. They're being kept in rooms with toilets, so with the jeetblood in their veins, and no available streets, they're getting toxified by all the shit backing up in their system, hence the swollen guts on women in the first trimester.
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>>216895447
Oh NO NO NO
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>>216894749
>Steve
He is a successful musician and already has a booked movie; his career didn't quite take off like Eddie's actor, but it's quite close, also really funny and charming irl.
>Nancy and Jonathan
Despite them being able to act, they look (and are) drug addicts with cursed genetics, so it's unlikely they get that much work
>Mike
Despite doing fucking nothing in the show, he is really funny, social and charming irl, just like Steve's actor, he will probably become a movie director and act/do music on the side.
>Lucas
He will end up becoming a black superhero of some kind, and later in life will star in an Oscar-bait movie about being black. He seems like a good dude.
>Max
She can act and already has brand deals, movie opportunities and a fanbase; she is set
>Hopper
His career is quite stuck. Hellboy and some action movies he did seem to have flopped. He is also turbo woke and has drinking and cheating issues, he is still like an A minus lister tho and is in marvel so he has money
>Winonna
She never recovered from showing to those awards mad high
>Millie
its over, Netflix slop and some Disney projects before she gets mogged by other actresses in her age bracket
>Will
Unlike what some people think, him being an open zionist would likely open more doors than it shut, regardless, he is a talentless fag and will likely get gay bottom roles for a while until even the hollywood jews notice he can't act that much
>Robin
She is a nepobaby who is hot (when she wants to be) and has good tits, she is set.
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>>216895108
We literally saw Will visit Max’s hospital room in the first episode. He went through Will’s memories
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>>216895617
>>216895447
this is the shirt so it looks like it's just some overenthusiastic copy
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>>216895618
david harbor and sadie are literally going to be in the biggest movies in 2026 (doomsday) and 2027 (secret wars)

>capeshit
doesn't matter
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>>216895408
>>216895447
>>216895492
thats the husk of the mindflayer in the dead zone. as the bridge collapses it will regenerate life forces like Vecna does and when it breaks our plane it will be back to full spooky shadow claw thing in the sky
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>>216894279
Is will gay because the actor is gay or is the actor gay because will is gay?
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They could save this show if they end it with some Djo kino in the final scene

https://youtu.be/xy3AcmW0lrQ
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>>216895622
If only he was mentally stronger, then he may have been able to keep the injured girl hidden at the hospital
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>>216894637
Hopper wasn’t even there you dumb ass
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imagine if in the far reaches of space there's a mind flayer irl
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>>216895684
It’s a chicken and egg type thing
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>>216895658
WTF is the deal here? First S2/3 flayers in charge, then Vecna in 4, then the play says mind flayers pulling the strings with the cave scene linking to the play but then this shirt says Vecna’s in charge of the hivemind?
What the fuck is this?
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Holly and Max talking in Vecna’s mind like:
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>>216895688
I wouldn't mind it.
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>>216895699
The whole wormhole thing connecting places across time and space makes me wonder if Vecna's Piss World is an alternate dimension or some random planet in bumfuck nowhere of the Pinwheel Galaxy or something.
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>>216895291
Wait...So how did 8 get her powers if she wasn't injected with Henry's blood? I think I missed that
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>>216895737
Vecna = Henry Creel + Mind Flayer
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>>216895754
dimension x (the yellow place) is a real location in the stranger things universe that is connected to hawkins by the upside down (wormhole)
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>>216895737
Vecna overpowered Mindflayer. Maybe?
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>>216895737
Notice that large swathes of text are spoiler'd.
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>>216895737
S4 pretty clearly retconned the Mind Flayer to just being a tool of Vecna the whole time
they're now retconning it again because these writers are mentally handicapped
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>>216895737
the graph on the shirt shows vecna on top, below him the mindflayer, and below him everything else
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>>216895374
Max is going to be in the new Spiderman movie as a Mutant. Hopefully not Jean Grey, she's too young for that. I would LOVE for her to play Rachel Summers. I think she's perfect for that
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>>216895841
She is playng Punisher's sidekick.
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>>216895850
>playng
*playing
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>>216895618
>they look (and are) drug addicts
Source?
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>>216895850
>Punisher's sidekick
there was a whole arc in Punisher max about what he thinks about the possbility of having a sidekick. he killed the people who tried to convince him to recruit them
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Imagine what Epstein would have paid for Holly
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>>216895737
I saw the play and when I’ve gone to read the summaries of it online there are connotations and things stated that I just don’t remember seeing.

What I recall:
> He came back from the cave different
> In the cave we are told there was a deceased scientist who had stolen something from Brenners lab (show as trying to recreate the WW2 experiment)
> Henry starts having episodes where animals/people get hurt and the mindflayer’s image appears in the background

I don’t recall there being an explicit or confirmed consciousness or malevolence to the mindflayer. Or even a hierarchy between the two.
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>>216895759
She got 'em from Henry's blood, but it's LotR rules, same as how you need a vag to harm his wraiths, so it only gives power according to the power you have. Whites get psychic supremacy, jeets get psychic scam calls.
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So... hold on... there are gates into the UD under all those plates all around town? And they chose to break through the one in the secure military location with cameras? As a matter of fact, why didn't they use those gates for their crawls all the time, it seems like finding a hidden plate and sneaking in is waaay less convoluted and risky than the convoy stealth bullshit they did.
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>>216893519
forgot
>bylerschizos get vindicated
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I swear to god just about every show in existence turns to shit after 2 to 3 seasons. We need to set a new standard for shows and kill sequel seasons entirely.
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Honestly, I'm not feeling this season much. Maybe because they decided to split it during the holidays for peak viewership but also it's been really slow and all over the place.
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>>216895937
>Whites get psychic supremacy, jeets get psychic scam calls.
Oh shit...That's really how it played out too. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
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>>216895913
Why would you want to imagine that?
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>>216895841
Neat. I will guess and say Firestar. Only Mutants who have business in Spiderman are his Amazing Friends, is there a frosty faggot attached to play Bobby?
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>>216895932
> I don’t recall there being an explicit or confirmed consciousness or malevolence to the mindflayer
Do you not think the MF flashing when something bad happens implies on some level that Henry is being actively manipulated?
The hivemind wasn’t created when Vecna shaped the MF, those demos and the MF already existed
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>>216895892
Jonathan actor was busted at an airport with cocaine once; it's quite obvious by looking at both him and Nancy's actress's physical appearance that both do or did heavy drugs.
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>>216895959
Cut them some slack, it's the first show they hasn't cancelled.
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qrd on will actor being a zionist, not sure if legit or just fuckers overreacting to a meme he posted and shit
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>>216895937
>Whites get psychic supremacy, jeets get psychic scam calls.
Jesus Christ, Raimi.
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>>216893329
>don't give the science book to the science teacher
>don't kill or torture information out of the general trying to make supersoldiers out of el/vecna blood when they were okay killing random soldiers literally 2 episodes back
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>>216896088
Overreaction
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>>216896008
I think it works like such:
Dimension X = Home of the mindflayer, demos, etc.
Henry was transported there as a kid and was fundamentally changed/infected by the mindflayer or whatever rules DimX. His blood was changed.

Later, somehow Brenner created the wormhole to Dimension X, creating the upside down.

This allowed the MF to gain power and turn Henry even more, basically taking him over.
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>>216895913
Holly and Tina both?
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the only reason i watch this show is because there's nothing like it. i like these fun amblin-esque adventure stories full of horror and action and nice characters, all the things the duffers are influenced by (carpenter, spielberg, nightmare on elm street, etc) are things I also like. they put everything in a blender and made a new thing out of it, and this is the formula for how we used to get things like star wars too

unfortunately the show is just quite bad now and i don't think it'll stick the landing. everyone seems to be unanimous that season 1 was the best
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>>216896088
Probably the later, but Will's actor does say and post a lot of stupid shit online.
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>>216896088
He ardently defends Israel (he fancies gay bars in Tel Aviv) and said "Zionism is sexy." So I mean yeah he's pretty heavy with it
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>>216896123
They explain it more or less like that in the show. We still don't know what's the deal with cave and the scientist that tried to kill Henry.
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truke
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>>216896162
>defends Israel
>fancies gay bars in Tel Aviv
so which one is it
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>>216895913
Built for Josh.

It’s hilarious to me that all the girls in the class know Holly is a Queen of Spades
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>>216896197
He has plenty of friends in the party.
And now his is older and can take care of himself and Joyce has Hopper.
Jonathan can finally be free to pursue his own goals.
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>>216894937
This is basically every episode of every season if you subtract the Will being gay part and swap Vecna for demagorgon/mind flayer
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>>216895938
The show has been all no sense since S3 and the Russia arc but S5 has exponentially worse writting with shitty payoff so it is harder to get along with all these ridiculous situations and cheap baits
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>>216896176
They already talked about el/max going through henry's mind so I assume everything will be explained for the people who don't care about some play, and you know, the character's in the show.
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>>216896008
Or it is him all along and the MF is an avatar of his darkness?
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>>216896176
That's from the play Brenner's father was part of an experiment (i can't remember the name) and was transported there. He came back changed. Brenner tried to recreate the experiment, but his partner, the guy in the cave, stole the device. It's in the case. When Henry opens it, he's transported to DimX, starting the whole thing off.
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>>216896214
Hilarious is that you keep spouting this shit. You're worse than byler retards.
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>>216896373
Unlike Byler, this is canon though.
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holly a cute
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>>216896360
that's a man on the right
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>>216896389
Proof?
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>everyone on YouTube is shitting on the show
Man, just once I’d like a show that’s good from start to finish and doesn’t take 10 years to finish. Maybe I should just stick to movies.
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Call me retarded, but I still don't get what's their actual plan or what Steve was talking about with the tower
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>>216896471
The intervals between seasons don't help. There has been so much buildup even if it was good it would be disappointing.
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>>216895354
>hey, listen. being gay is okay.
>you gotta understand, this is what being a parent is all about..
>holly, it's okay. you're growing and learning your lesson.
>mom, you saved us. it's gonna be fine. you're a girlboss and have done enough
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>>216896494
The place where Vecna and the kids are his midpoint in the wormhole. This is where they need to get to. They don't have a way.

So the plan is wait for Vecna to bring the worlds closer and then use the tower (the place they can get to) to stage their attack, rescue the kids/kill Vecna, etc.
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>what if we just make Steve an asshole again for no reason
Were the dufferbros upset that he was the only likeable character or something? Or do they think making the characters assholes to each other creates tension that’s enthralling?
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>>216896535
>So the plan is wait for Vecna to bring the worlds closer
And how do they expect to reverse that later? Or will they just let it there Eternals style and pretend nothing happened?
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>>216896494
Dimension X entry hole is going to lower itself during the merge so they’ll get on top of the tower and meet it half way down, assuming it doesn’t just teleport on top of Hawkins
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>>216896197
His has as a friend Nancy and Murray. He isn't alone.
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>>216896471
It's more profitable to shit on the newest media.
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>>216896442
Look in the pictures posted in the previous threads
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>>216896561
By killing Vecna and bombing the wormhole.
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>>216896561
Once he no longer has the kids, he can't bring it any closer.

And of course someone will sacrifice themselves to take out the dark/exotic matter device that will destroy the wormhole. That will either be El, Hopper, the jeet or redeemed!Henry.
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>>216896561
They're going to blow up the exotic matter at the lab which will disconnect the worlds.
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>>216896590
Why not post them here?
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>>216896561
It’s a wormhole, if they blow it up nothing of consequence happens to anyone in the other worlds
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>The Abyss must be the home of the demo, the mindflayer, and everything else!
>It's a giant desert and there's no sign of any flesh tentacles or monsters anywhere aside from Henry's dead spider
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>>216896689
We literally saw Henry land there last season in the flashback.
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>get annoyed at Steve seemingly hitting on Nancy
>ends up breaking up with her anyway
What the fuck is Jonathan’s problem?
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>>216896536
>>216896536
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>>216896536
>>216896536
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>>216896741
Jonathan was running from the relationship with Nancy so for him it was easier to imagine that he is fighting with Steve for Nancy. Basically Jonathan was looking for a scapegoat for his failing relationship.
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>>216896252
His own goals of dating Nancy and playing mom to his mother and brother? They forgot to give him a character. His entire role could be replaced with the retarded girl's brother's robot butler from the rocky sequel with the gay guy from the A-Team. To the show's benefit.
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>>216896360
The librarian is with Mr. Clarke and I doubt Mr. Clarke has a child that old
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>>216893329
SHES FUCKING FUGLY OH MY GOD!!!!
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>>216893808
BBC aint gonna suck itself you know, gotta scram as fast as possible



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