Glorifying Ewya's Light EditionPrevious: >>217229850Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHBlpJauUV4Remember to use spoiler tags and keep the Na'vi race pure.
>>217241472The dogs are actually in the Ashes expansion for Frontiers of Pandora
post jimmy interviews
>Qwaaritch, what are fights between your clans like>well Cupcake, since you asked...https://youtu.be/PctjOsNt0Aw?si=rxt2yzsKyKHui2h2
I salute the varang
>>217241656kitty
>>217241759>Quaritch showing Varang warwave edits of the Nigerian conflict>gives her a play-by-play of the different battles shown in the videoshttps://youtu.be/Ds6mvK4olQ4?si=ImXRBoeboCL5xblG
>It says here you have to kiss me
>>217241723https://youtu.be/bOd3mvrPMvY?t=659>there was going to be scenes of Na'vi and tulkun dancing together, cut for time BUT HE WANTS TO ADD IT BACKPlease Cameron...no more whales...please...
Look how many goddamn moons the ISVs could've gone to by this point (ignore RDA propaganda).
4 is most definitely happening. idk why everyone is acting like it wont. Disney needs to cover the losses sustained by greenlighting shitty movies for like 5 years. Avatar is a free billion dollars every time.
>>217241858If FAA's budget was $600m after marketing though (very possible), then it needs $1.2b or some obscene amount to break even. The investment in the theme park may convince them to keep the series going.
>>217241850yeah but how many of those have magic rocks and whale goo?
>>217241925anon it is easily making 1.5 at the least.
>just got to spider x Kiri, Quatrich's fate is unknown, what is next for Loak and Payakan, what's with Varang?I feel like we've stopped on the most interesting. I fucking need that 4 movie brehs.
>>217242045I actually do not care about payakan and the tulkuns. I barely cared in Way of Water
>>217241858No way Cameron does 4 without also doing 5 at the same time imo. I think his main thing right now is trying to settle on some methods that will help get the movies made cheaper (tbqh im sure they cost even more than is reported) without too much compromise. I think it's also safe to say that advances made with 2 and 3 and their pipelines and workflow might already be something that pay dividends regarding the sequels budget.
>>217242359I read somewhere that there will be a time jump at some point in 4 and they already filmed the scenes that come before that before the kids aged out. Do not know if it is true though.
>>2172424488 years, which should give you an idea of approximately when he expects them to come out.
>>217242359I wish Disney would just abandon Star Wars and redirect all the money to him. It'd be more profitable for them too.
>>217242448It is true, Cameron confirmed he filmed a chunk of 4 already several times
>>217242448It is true I think. It's been in many articles back when TWoW was released. Kids part of the story was completely filmed, which what i assume would make up most of the first act of the movie. I guess we will have first 15-30 mins to transition from FaA to whatever post skip events would be, and the rest of the movie+5 will be with grown up characters.
>>217242517yeah this shit is coming out lol expect the announcement late january-early february
>>217242565I hope they will announce it when it hits 1.5 billies. The main question is whether Cameron himself feels satisfied with the drop in box office or not. Maybe it's ego thing + rationality. I can understand him if he will feel like such a box office isn't worth of spending the next 4+ years on making these movies. On other hand we have an overall profit. TWoW and FaA were shot together and approximately cost $800 millions+250-300 millions spent on combined promotion. 2.3+1.2 billies are 3.5 billies of box office vs 1.1 Billie of the budget. I think by the end of the run it would be 3.8-3.9 vs 1.1.But at the same time drop from 2.3b of TWoW to 1.6-1.8 of FaA may look painful for Jimbo. But on other hand it's really hard to expect TWoW results with just 4 years of gap vs 14 years between first and second movies. TWoW also absolutely had some people fed up with the setting, so it's kind of natural way of things. It's quite complicated. I'm thinking the fate of 4 and 5 will depend on whether 4 and 5 are magnum opus for Jimbo or he just wanted to show us ocean movies in TWoW and FaA and was satisfied completely with that and is ready to move on.
>>217242775Cameron said he is unsure about directing 4 and 5. Maybe someone else will do it while he stays as the producer.
>>217242832I dont believe anyone else has the technical knowhow or merit to make these movies as they are but him
>>217242775>4 and 5 are magnum opus for Jimboapparently disney thinks the script for 4 is really fucking good
>>217242045>spider x KiriWhat do you see in that couple?
>>217241833Based jimbo. Give me max tulkun exposure!
>>217243047They are both hot and I'm real sucker for vanilla romance in fiction. Also I like both characters. Spider's personality is basic but not annoying and Kiri is just a treasure.
I don't know if I can say I "hate" Spider, I just feel like he's very underutilized and is practically just a comic relief character.Like you'd think with the whole Tarzan thing he's got going on, the movies would explore him being a total Na'viboo yet not one, the whole torn between two worlds thing causing conflict.But nah, he has no conflicting feelings about it, he's pure Na'vi loving all the way, he immediately gives up any interest in his own mother because he remembers she was a filthy Sky Person who tried to kill his beloved blue people.Not to mention how in Way of Water Neytiri was going to fucking murder him, but he's okay with her the next, then Jake going to execute him, but immediately forgives him, its just off how disconnected he is.
>>217242832he passing 4 and 5 off to james wanthe spin off is being directed by a newcomer, which he wrote the script himself and was wowed by cameron
>>217243347He is more of a classic chad character, from the movies of 80s and 90s. He knew nothing other life than with Navi and RDA are clearly evil on his eyes. So he understood why Neytiro wanted to trade his life for the life of Kiri, and also understood why Jake wanted to execute him. But I got what you mean, his arc supposed to be more dramatic than it actually was in the movies.
>>217243347Very good point, actually. The most interesting part of AWoW was when he was watching Neytiri massacre humans with this horrified expression on his face. That paired with him saving Quaritch really made me think he was going to be way more interesting than he ended up being in FaA. I just do not think he belongs with the Na'vi. It would be more interesting if he was of his own mind, distinct from that of the military, but separate from the Na'vi because of breached trust and a conflict within him that compels him to empathize with humanity.Spider could have been a vessel for very powerful emotions. Does he truly wish to be Na'Vi, or is he just envious of their size and strength? What does humanity mean to him? Does he wish to see humanity be better? Better how? Morally? Physically? After both Jake and Neytiri tried to kill him, would he go his own way and try to help his people? Would that put him at odds with Lo'ak, Kiri, and the Na'vi down the line? People complain about him being a plot device, and the easiest way to fix this is to develop that dichotomy within him.
>>217243347That's because the movies actually skipped some important stories written by Cameron. That's why Spider looks like he got shoehorned in the movie. Cameron should've made 1 or 2 Avatar movies in 2010s instead of obsessing with mastering underwater CGI.
Every time I play Frontiers of Pandora for a bit, I see something that makes me smile. If you like Avatar, you should own this game. It's as if there are already ~4th and 5th movies to sink your teeth into and explore at your leisure
>>217243832Heard it is pretty empty and repetitive ubislop
>>217243832I need a Lego Avatar videogame.
>>217243840It's structured similarly to a Far Cry, but this is arguably a good thing for accessibility reasons, and it makes more sense from the perspective of playing as a Na'vi, rather than a random person handed a gun for the first time
>>217242931I think Alita was a testing ground for handing his production to another director
>>217243832stop posting about this game my PC can't run it
>>217243887and it failed
>>217241656Did he live? Will he be back as an airship fleet admiral in the next movie?
>>217243955Real question is which side will he be privateering for. My bet is the RDA.
>>217243592Maybe he doesn't belong with the Navi, but at this point he's Pandoran, not an Earth human. Returning to Earth would be extremely difficult for him without major physical adjustments to the heavier gravity. He's a more interesting concept than he is a character
>>217243953Not what I said
>>217243925The minimum spec is a GTX 1070, and it recommends a 3060 ti, so that would be a You problem. It's a pretty well optimized game, even the Series S version is impressive looking, if you can tolerate 30fps
hated that alita movieif alita herself was completely cgithen why wasnt the bf?hes a robot as well
>>217243955>>217243966>RDA is now aligned with the Mangkwan who murder his people>but the RDA + Mangkwan hold air superiority and are much more likely to attack if he's not explicitly aligned with themsounds like the merchantly choice is clear
>>217241656ginormous horses are not pure
>>217241850Many years ago I think Cameron said the sequels would explore the other moons. That's obviously been abandoned but I wonder what they would've been like.
>>217244054Frankly, I'm not a big fan of Cameron-producer. Idk in what capacities he was involved in all projects but none of them were that good. Terminator movies he was involved in as producer were garbage. Alita I never get that obsession with continuation. It was forgettable movie with jarring CGI. Cameron is a great director and script writer (he wrote Strange Days and Point Break for example). But I wouldn't trust him as a producer with another director at helm. He is way too competent to waste himself on just a producing.
>>217244232there were too many missing beats that couldve made the movie a lot more meaningfulalita is a selfish brat who had no remorse whatsoever after destroying the robot body given to her by ido,who originally built for his daughteras soon as alita is given a second chance by ido, she becomes a whore by immediately falling in love with the first retard she sees, and also going to bars to pick fighs with random robots just to prove that shes superiorand i know the alita models were built to fight, but to not take in any ounce of humanity ido showed her was such a wasted opportunity in having a walking circuit board rewire itself to understand how fragile life really is
>>217244045>It's a pretty well optimized gamethat's the opposite of what I've heard
>>217244318same anontheres nothing wrong on the technical side of thingsits just that the story itself was lacking any sort of humanityall it was, was robots killing each other
>>217242448I don't want a time skip. I want four to be about quaritch and the fire tribe staging a coup
>>217244352NTA but it's highly unoptimized and meant for high vram modern gpu's. If you got anything but that, it's gonna struggle and run around 30-45 FPS - maybe 60 if you gimp yourself to 1080p (DLSS) and lower settings, defeating the purpose of the visual porn that's the game.
alita is a robot whos only purpose is to fightit doesnt understand what love isit doesnt understand what father and daughter relationship is likeit doesnt understand what it means to be a humanalita must learn all of this in order for her to resonate any sort of connection to the people around heralso, she didnt even question why she had this urge to fight all the time...idk, it just felt like alita couldve been more than just an action movieit couldve been a robot understanding love can be greater than what a human perceives it as
>>217240131>no desert>no snow>Then what?Underground na'vi in caves. With bioluminescent fungi, big frog monsters etc.
>>217241723James Cameron on the Wind Traders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsN3aP-2YNI James Cameron on Varang and the drug trip:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLdKDFxtF2g James Cameron on the animals of Pandora:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOd3mvrPMvY Does anyone have more?
>>217241656You want to hear Quaritch saying "Nigger" unironically? Go to 00:56https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfRtmOQK_u4
>>217244466>meant for high vram modern gpu'soh well, guess I'll download the old one for now, it looks sovlful
>>217244750I hear the plot in this is great.
>>217244683Ha!
>>217244466Runs great on my 3070 8GB, wtf are you talking about?
>>217241781I'd pay handsomely for an R-rated horror film titled "Pinkskin". At nightfall, Neytiri sneaks up on a massive ship full of human tourists that are there to see the bioluminescent beauty of the Pandoran waters. Neytiri kills all the guards and the panicking tourists themselves get indiscriminately slaughtered by her in an unchecked killing spree. Spider is the protagonist.
>>217244444>WITNESSED!!
>>217243347Real conflict with Recom Quaritch was underutilized (e.g. real dismay at him jumping, dropping the brave face facade after he leaves the med room to the camera, or genuinely considering Recom offer to go full blue so he wouldn't need the mask— then cut to RDA CEO eavesdropping so we question Quaritch's motives). No one believes Sully could go through with it— but Spider seeing Neytiri's real despair at pushing Sully to do it (and attempted mask murder), too late to stop him - or so it seems rushing into the jungle after them - AND/OR Spider offering to do it himself (let him jump, so he can see the sky) being the thing that kills Sully's resolve, that would be better than that cruelky drawn out bullshit.>>217243592The most interesting thing that can happen to Spider is getting unlucky in combat with giant blue nephilim cannibals, and taking his 'father's offer to Pinocchio his crippled pinkass into a new blue recom body (which dries Kiri's surface snatch, much to Spider's dismay).
>>217243955>>217243966He'll do some significant betrayal. Humans (Sully & Spider) are trouble, and he's written off victory over Sky tech, perhaps diverting gun runs to the Ashies and letting slip intel to Quaritch & an RDA going full British East India Company with parralel force structure vs. the Military. Han Solo face turn in Empire, then showing up in ROTJ at Laser Moon 2 against expectation.
>Jim says everyone who's seen the script for A4 is stunned>Jim says A4 is his magnum opus>Avatar in general is his dream franchise, sought after for decades>doomposts about A3 not succeeding enough for A4 and A5>follows up with the possibility that even if it does well he might pawn off A4 and A5 to another director so he can go... retreat muh jap nukes for the millionth timeWhat the fuck is his problem?
>>217245454>retreatretread*
>>217245454Didn't he also say his wife cried for hours after seeing Fire and Ash? The Way of Water seems a lot more emotional to me.
>>217245454Just make Japanese snow Na'vi that get nuked by an ISV kamikaze and melts the polar cap, set to that wailing soundtrack that plays whenever the humans bag a win.
I like Avatar
the real mangkwan backstory is that Varang accidentally dropped a cheese wheel as a little girl and that cheese rolled a bit so Eywa marked the entire clan for death
>>217245584I like the idea of Varang always having an edgy streak and going off into the forest as a girl to break the rules of Eywa and stack stones without knowing what it would entail.
>>217245454Scarcity marketing, he's hyping up A4 by making you talk about it as something mysterious that might not ever happen, this tactic is generating a lot of discussion already
>>217245568Wow MeToo fren :-)
2 billy status?
Funny that Oona went on this little excursion fully knowing she would be an evil bitch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaz_xRMoaPc
>>217245329>The most interesting thing that can happen to Spider is getting unlucky in combat with giant blue nephilim cannibals, and taking his 'father's offer to Pinocchio his crippled pinkass into a new blue recom body (which dries Kiri's surface snatch, much to Spider's dismay).Wait, this shit is bussin. Imagine drama you can milk with Spider no longer being that Spider Kiri remember, just memories and personality, and whether she will able to See Him again. Tragic love story and so on. I would stand behind it.
>>217245649>"edgy" by na'vi standards is building small stone stacks, carving wheels and wondering wtf metal iscute cute cute
>>217246005One day with re-release maybe.
>>217246033Maybe they could also hunt an animal without apologizing.
1.1 billies. Not enough.
>>217246191I've consulted the orb. We'll be approaching 1.25 billies by Monday.
>>217246560this webm is way too american its unreal
>>217246560Why so blue?
How was he able to miraculously get normal hair?
>>217246625>Cut off dreads around kuru bud>Actually take care of it>End up with regular hairIt's not that difficult. The real question is, between neytiri's injury healing and spider's kuru growing, how much time actually passed in-universe
>>217244770great is a little far but it's solid and pulpy in a fun way. i remember the marine v/as really chewing the scenery
>>217246560How does Lo'ak know how to kys with a rifle? Did he watch human movies? Did Jake teach him? Because that's not a natural or neccessarily obvious motion. He doesn't fumble around or hesitate, instead he executes this specific motion planned and fluid.
>>217246669If you know how to use a gun, you know how to kill yourself with it. Not that hard. Unless you're a Russian soldier in Ukraine, I've seen a lot of them get it wrong lol
>>217246669He's thought about it a lot.
>>217246669He could've just ruminated on it for a while and already imagined doing it numerous times. It's kind of obvious you can just grab the barrel and line it up with your chin.
>>217246669In TWOW he literally brags to Neteyam that Jake taught him how to use a gun
>>217243955I just need to see him slaying more Ash goons like he's straight off a Dynasty Warriors game.
The Quaritch 1 vs Quaritch 2 fight will be kino
>>217243955he was on the ship that crashed with no survivors wasn't he?
>>217246911Achually it's Quaritch 2 vs Quaritch 3, Quaritch 1 was the human who diedOr do you count him as Quaritch 0?
>>217246932Let's not get into the Quaritch wars.
>>217246965If they make Arnie t-800s on an assembly line, why not Quaritches?
Biblical Imaginery-"Eywa" = "Yahweh", a simple reversal of the abrahmic sky daddy god.-The character name "Grace Augustine" is fully loaded with christianity. "Grace" is a specific theological state where you get right with god. Augustine was a theologian and saint.-In the third movie, one of the Ash people pokes Quaritch in his obliques with a spear, drawing a bit of blood. This is like the Lance of Longinus for Evangelion fans, or: the holy spear.-Varang's tight little horizontal binder is sometimes worn with a vertical stripe of paint or paints, clearly forming a cross.-The third film specifically makes general appeals to faith and belief, especially the opening argument between Jake and Ney (and Jake really ought to know better, since he lived the proof of his god at the climax of the first film).-In the first film, when the much larger Neytiri cradles Jake's weak human body, this pose is taken directly from the Pieta (mary cradles the dead jesus). The Michelangelo sculpture is the best known example, but it's a genre thing with other instances.-"Tulkun". The sound of this word is suspiciously close to the jewish theological concept of "tikkun". In rough strokes, the jewish/kabbalastic notion of tikkun is: the world is broken and wrong, and various troublesome things in the world (qlippoth) obstruct our clear view of reality. Therefore, we should endeavor to repair the broken world that we inhabit.-Kiri is obviously a Jesus figure, being born without a father, as an avatar(lol) of god.-And then there's the Abraham and Isaac moment with Spider.-And then of course, the Na'vi are waging jihad against the occupying humans. You can stretch it any way you like, but the abrahamist stuff is a major informer.
>>217246932Human was the Colonel Quaritch is the recom Then Q2Simple as
>>217246985 I figured something out the other day, consider this>Jake is short for Jacob>Jacob took his brother Esau's inheritance>Jake takes his brother's place in the Avatar program
>>217247007Quaritch PrimaQuaritch forma AzulQuaritch Secundo
>>217247007>>217247019Human Quaritch is Big Quaritch ( ironic name)First Recom Quaritch is Solid Quaritch ( for he is hard as metal when he cracks Varang)Second Recom Quaritch is Liquid Quaritch ( idk man I ran out of ideas)
So everyone agrees that Kiri is the “seed bearer” that revives earth with Eywa’s fungus, becoming earth’s version of Eywa, that’s why the face of eywa scene in s3 looked like Kiri
>cameron watched disney's atlantis because he loves underwater shit>about older army sending in a twink to talk with the locals>twink gets jungle fever>army man turns blue and diesbravo, james
Varang and Neyney being obsessed with human navis points to the fact that bwc carries over into big blue cock that natives don’t have
>>217247094Fake and gay
>>217247094muahh the quality of /tv/ has always been celebrated for its excellence
>>217247106Well look at the bright side. Jake isn't a twink and the army guy also eventually get jungle fever.
>>217247136>if Avatar weren't censored for the big screen, BAC would be flopping out of the loincloth constantly and Neytiri, Varang and any other Na'vi female nearby would be shooting glances and getting erect nipples
>>217247136
>>217247136neytiri>UOOHHH I HATE HUMANS>EXCEPT THIS ONE, I LOVE THIS ONEvarang>UOOHHH I HATE EVERYONE>EXCEPT THIS ONE, I LOVE THIS ONE
>>217247094Anon. Anon. Thank you. Your protest has been noted.
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>>217242514I do too, but let's face it: Disney is never fucking giving up on that shit purely from merch/ride sales alone. Look at how there are constant rumours Kathleen will be shown the door any day now, and the bitch still has her job.
>>217247222I can fix her. I will teach her the concepts of currency and supply and demand and we will run a home business selling hand-carved figurines of humanoid figures in various stages of death
>>217243289Spider is not just a MacGuffin, he's a "morality pet" for three principal characters: Jake, Neytiri and Recom Quaritch, he's there to show the audience that there's a certain line that Jake and Neytiri wouldn't ever cross and that Navitch is not an irredeamable monster. Imo, his relationship with Neyney is the best-written one. Not only did he save Jake's life by putting himself in danger, I think something also clicked for her when he was sleeping on her back while flying, something like "Holy shit, he really is just a boy who's earning for a family, and for mother's love. And I've been such a horrible cunt to him for nothing". Like Catelyn Stark and Jon Snow, except in this one "Caitlyn" actually realizes it before it's to late to apologize.
>>217243347As someone pointed out a while, like his dad and probably his mom Spider is just kind of a based Chad who is loyal to home and hearth above all whose way of dealing with complicated shit is to just not think about it and double down. It's strange, I didn't think much about him in the last movie but I actually really liked Spider in this one purely because the stakes are higher, the family was dealing with more shit, there was overall more danger-and he just fucking doesn't care, and still finds reasons to be a cheeky little fuck. There's something admirable about what a based retard Spider is when Sully and Neytari's arc seems to be slowly learning that one (1) glorious battle isn't enough to win the war.
>>217247295Spider is so fucking lucky to get to rest his head against Neytiri
>>217247106>Disney's Atlantis was a rip-off of Stargate and NadiaSo utlimately Avatar exists because of Hideaki Anno, saduga Director-san!
>>217247330Once again, Na'vi are BTFO by human superiority and persistence hunting even millenia into the future.Na'vi will run, humies will walkNa'vi will tire, they will not
>>217247390Imagine the smell...
>>217247276Speaking of this both WoW and FaA used their one "fuck" really effectively
>>217247330>Sully and Neytari's arc seems to be slowly learning that one (1) glorious battle isn't enough to win the war.Jake has known that from day 1, that's why he's so blackpilled. That said the RDA seems like the kind of organization that would implode in opportunistic infighting when faced with significant set backs
>>217247445>Jake has known that from day 1, that's why he's so blackpilled.I would argue that Jake was still a little in denial, in the sense that he thought he could run away from the main war and win with guerilla tactics when all the movies seem to agree that only an Eywa zerg rush can defeat the RDA.Though yeah, it's fair to say to say Jake's arc is different from Neytari's and really all the other pro-Eywa Na'vi who think that Toruk Makto can just fix everything merely by existing.
Is Avatar fundie propaganda? Isn't Cameron literally stating that we have lost touch with YHWH because we have industrialized and raped his domain?
>>217247437I haven't watched them in english, which lines where they in?
>>217247512>Eywa is female>Her devotees are tribal types that often default to a matriarchyno
>>217247546eywa would totally hatefuck god thoughbeit
>>217247546>matriarchyThe only two female leaders we've seen are the red and white waifus, and one of those murdered and usurped her patriarch father.
>>217247569I don't disagree, but that's a separate discussion.
>>217247581>Every clan lends considerable authority to the Tsahik regardless of who the chief is>Neytiri's mom is pretty much treated as the clan leader after her husband's death>Ronal is at least an equal to her husband>Varang's mom seemed to have a pretty tight hold on the clan even before Varang started mindraping them into submission since nobody seems to give a fuck about who the chief supposed to be, and Varang only bothered to bypass her sister not any other authority to take over the clan>Etuwa is the one to take the initiative about getting her dad to lead the clan to war>Anufi straight up WAS the leader as well as the TsahikI don't know man, whatever the formal line of succession is with Na'vi clans they don't seem to have a problem with a woman occupying multiple roles as long as she's both fierce and spiritual enough to do them both. And not in a liberal way, the boys roughhouse and hunt and shit, it's just that they don't mind outsourcing the big decisions to a woman
>>217247581>>217247546Pretty sure na'vi are not a matriarchy. They have a male chief which leads the clan and deals with the more military and management problems. The chiefs wife is more a spiritual leader akin to a druid. Her position requires her to be well versed in the ways of medicine and have a deep connection with Eywa. Also if Varang and Quaritch remain a couple the ash tribe might get a new male chief. I think the only reason they lacked one was because Varang wanted to consolidate power and didn't consider any of her simps worthy of the position.
>>217247445>>217247476I feel like Jake has gone into every final battle expecting to die.
>>217247675>SimpsSucks because they didn't get any characterization besides being retarded feral redshirts and >"these are le bad guys ok"
>>217247663Several willful misinterpretations. Na'vi generally have a split male/female leadership with the male/female having their own yin/yang spheres of authority. That has nothing to do with a matriarchy.
I always found it weird that na'vi practice arranged marriages for their leaders. Like if those two don't get along they can't mate to begin with. Even weirder that Neytiri was forced to take her sisters role despite not actually being particularly thrilled at being a tsahik.
>>217247094Kek, avatar generals are the most quality ones on /tv/
>>217247675Varang's running a heretic cult, there's no room for a man of status next to her unless an alien sun god shows up with thunder in his pocket and between his legs.>>217247707He's an ex-marine who lost his legs, got a miraculous second life, is terrified of losing it and is facing down an insurmountable power. If he wasn't dooming all day it'd be silly.
>>217247745I think they force such pairs because they select the best candidates for the position( but maybe in Neytiri's case it was nepotism).
>>217247771Professing your undying love to Varang's itty bitty navi titties is not quality anon
>>217241850>that poster in the backgroundSo they were teaching the Na'vi kids how dicklets they were compared to their human overlords? A fine demoralization campaign.
>>217247675>>217247734I don't think they are a formal marriachy per se, it just seems to me there is a natural tendency for the Tsahik to easily consolidate leadership due to the fatality rate of chiefs (who tend to fight on the front lines, like most Na'vi) and the authority/general people and practical skills that come with being a spiritual leader, just to be clear. Yeah nominally there is a chief and a Tsahik, all I mean is that the latter seem to also be able to occupy both roles in a pinch just fine while we haven't seen a male Tashik yet to my knowledge
>>217247014It's actually even more blatant when you think more about it:>Jacob stole Esau's inheritance by wearing goatskins on his arms so his father would think he was Esau>Jake literally wears his brother's Avatar
>>217247295Size of her boob in comparison to Spider's head really puts it into perspective. They don't look big on her when we only see her.
>>217246669Jake is a fan of Nirvana
>>217247779I think Varang was also keeping the boys in line with the idea that the most worthy would get the position of chief. It would work as a great motivator. Wukula( ash nav'vi bad guy in FoP dlc) seems super salty towards Quaritch so I think a lot of them were hoping for his position.
>>217247675>Also if Varang and Quaritch remain a couple the ash tribe might get a new male chief. I think the only reason they lacked one was because Varang wanted to consolidate power and didn't consider any of her simps worthy of the position.Judging by how well Quaritch's pitch worked on her, pretty sure Varang was frustratedly shlicking herself alone in the spooky tent every night because she knew fucking someone from her clan would risk lowering her status by tacitly conferring authority to someone else.Either that or it genuinely never occurred to her she was lonely at the top and it came as a shock.
>>217247856>Cucked by a big monkey>Forever doomed to be ruled by a mutt chiefKEK at that point they may as well just give up and self-immolate. It's so over for the Mangkwan
>>217247824Maybe the Horse clan Leader served both roles? For the more mount reliant clans having a leader do both roles does makes sense.
>>217247888We need a mangkwan Na'vi chud face edit.
>>217247856I don't know about that, she's been at it for a while and promising status even approaching hers works against her fear, drugs and spectacle-fueled reign.I think it's more like an asian idol or vtuber revealing her boyfriend. Simps who worshiped her from a distance see some random dude getting everything they've ever wanted.
>>217241850>>217247814The school was run by Grace and the scientists. They would not teach RDA propaganda, but only the objective truth. This means BHC is CONFIRMED.
>>217247437The Fuck in FaA is very prominent. Didn't even remember the one in Way of Water. Stupid Spider says it and it sounds more like a grunt. It should have been Tuktirey, "I can't believe I'm fucking tied up again!"
>>217247390Unironically felt seething jealousy when I saw this scene
>>217247995I don't like TukDeserves to be dragged out back and shot for the plot tbdesu
>>217247437FaA's was the best line. Great delivery, I lold
>>217248032that's ok. Not everyone can have a soul and empathy inside them.
>>217247889Probably, yeah. The different traditions of the sea Na'vi definitely show there's some cultural drift based on environmental factors, can't imagine the Tree Na'vi being familiar with a species that is entirely committed to pacifism (except against disgusting squ*ds of course).
>>217247888>they may as well just give up and self-immolateI mean, that explains a lot about why that one guy was happy to get shot by Varang. He knows all his bros are jealous.
>Harrowing fight for life and death>In a dangerous environment>Interrupted by having to save your (human self's) son>"Well, this is awkward!">"We gonna sing kumbaya now?"It should be a really cringe line, but Quaritch is both confident and boomer enough to pull it off well. You can tell he is simultaneously done with this shit and also just laughing it off.
>>217247995>>217248041When is FaA's dropped? I don't remember. Googling just gives me fake porn results.
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>>217248059>Amazon tribe Na'vi>Polynesian Na'viAre the ash clan also based on a real life culture or are they just meant to be the guys who look bad and do bad stuff
>>217248123He also closes it off with a sneering remark about learning to See, maintaining the hostility and keeping things from getting too Marvel.
>>217247995He says it when he was rescuing blue Q it was easily the best moment and best character to deliver it
>>217248146They were regular tree Na'vi a generation ago, but I remember seeing Jim say something about being inspired by Papuan fire dances.
>>217248169nah, it's a stupid moment for a stupid character. Spider's rescue of Quaritch was retarded and he's responsible for getting everyone killed next movie. Jake should have killed him just for betraying them all like that. It's a traitor move to do it, and a traitor move to keep it secret so Quaritch could hurt them that much more when he comes back.
>>217248231Hylic opinion discarded.
>Walker: Oh no you don't! That's just a kid, Kiri! You sick fuck!
>>217248125Marino biologist, inside bulldozer>Is my protest noted now, fuckers?
>>217248187Cool, cannibal women are hot desu
>>217248162Oh yeah, definitely. In general the movie does a really good job of avoiding "getting too Marvel", there's a constant sense of dread/skin in the game even when Varang is doing whacky shenanigans or the kids are goofing around. If this was Marvel, there would've been a quip or two at Quaritch's expense while he was napping.
>>217241656For me, it's the wind traders' arrow shotgun.
>Kiri summons all the animals to attack the humans>An Akula shows up next to Tuktirey>She's frightened at first, then it shows it's friendly>Tuktirey mounts up and rides the Akula to eat Sky Demons same as her mother rode the Thanator
>>217248353Does it even have a neural link or was Eywa like "I love all my little creatures, EXCEPT that horrid beast"
So, did anyone else here see the trailer for Pixar's new movie Hopper? They showed it before my watching of FaA. Hopper also revolves around remote controlling an artificial body. They even straight up say "This is like Avatar!" in the trailer lmao.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJnAHzo4-KIBillybros, is this finally our cultural impact?
>>217248368Nta but I mean, everything else does so I just took it for granted? Even the small flying jellyfish things have a neural link.Personally I was just taken aback the whales apparently do not include squid in their pacifism rules, I just thought they were herbivores.
>>217248436> I just thought they were herbivores.Well, Payakan is obviously an exception but still you did see him feed in Way of Water
>>217248436>Even the small flying jellyfish things have a neural link.Maybe it becomes more apparent (sticking out like a tail) by evolutionary pressure (mated animals have a superior intelligence guiding them so they should win over the ones who don't in fighting for resources and territory), but since it's a murderous devilshark that swims in the deep barely any attempts are made to connect with it because it's just so risky, so it only developed a small inlet. Same deal with the squids, I didn't see a neural jack anywhere on them.
>>217248353>virgin shark vs chad cetacean
>>217248530>Can we have your liver then?
>>217248518Well, the squids still heeded the call of Eywa. I'm just saying, if even Toruk and the Thanator could evolve neuraljacks despite only one of them having a clan prophecy, I'm not sure we can count out the devilshark.I can see Eywa just building neuraljacks into all it's pets just in case it ever needs a sapient lifeform to guide one for better combat performance.
>>217248530HEEMED
>>217248032Bold words for someone in STABBING RANGE!
>>217241656I was wondering if the absolute pacifism of the tulkun is only so in their perception. They have to feed themselves and do so by killing other beings that however are microscopic, so they probably aren't aware of their existence because, no matter how smart they are, they haven't developed microscopes, understandable since they inhabit the water, a hard environment to get things done, and humanity lived with no such invention or anything close to that level of technological sophistication for hundreds of thousands of years, until 100 or so years ago. So they think they're just living off of water, clueless to their filter-feeding of millions of living beings every individual instance. The breaking of these news to them would probably mindbreak them hard and upend their beliefs so abruptly they'd be back to murdering each other in 2 weeks.
>RDA hijacks Eywa and "downloads" stored consciousnesses into new bodies/machines a la Wolfenstein TNOOdds?
>>217248604But water is a lot harder for a four limbed being to move nimbly in. And there aren't settlements out in the middle of the ocean (that we know of, waterworld x avatar when??), so there wouldn't be that much proximity leading to a beneficial, somwhat fair relation developing between species. I can see them trying to on ilu/skimwing but that just seems overboard when these can already do most of what the shark can.
>>217247136Yeah and both ney and varang say they have strong hearts. They obviously meant their cocks
>>217248604>if even Toruk and the Thanator could evolve neuraljacksNot that anon, but the neurolink seems to be a very basal part of the body plan of pandorean animals. Meaning all those different animals have inherited it from a single ancestor in the very deep past. Just like three pairs of limbs and two pairs of eyes. Those traits did not evolve independently a hundred times.EXCEPT if Eywa is an alian parasite that has invaded pandora and mutated its species to develop a kuru, just like it did with Spider.
>>217248757>you have strong heart>translated: you pump a lot of blood very fast to your cockThe navi are oddly understanding of humanoid anatomy.
w-what if you sucked on Kiri's Kuru? would she like that? haha
>>217241656Post time skip Spiri will be such a cuties.
Does anyone care about the kid navi
Spider’s actor is 6’3 now which is kinda funny
>>217248736remember anonnavi is one letter away from nazi
>>217247136>I tell ya gurl those sky boys know how to treat ya
>>217248834Too bad we won't ever see it on film because Cameron's ego is to great to accept a cent less than 2 billies and refusing to make 4.
>>217248868>have the ugliest Avatar>score the best looking native chick>dont participate in any terrible shit Sullley has to endure>just live your life, fuck your woman, explore pandoraNorm won at life.
>>217248771>EXCEPT if Eywa is an alian parasite that has invaded pandora and mutated its species to develop a kuru, just like it did with Spider.>alien parasiteDoesn't technically need to be alien really, just a really fucking adaptive fungal/plant network that dominates every other organism in the ecosystem. Like the Zerg or Lavos, but less expansionist. And yeah, the fact it CAN stuff a fungal network into Spider to keep him alive there makes me think it just mutates anything that evolves there into having neuraljack capabilities.
>>217248868where's this picture from?
Significance of Quaritch giving Spider a burger over literally anything else?
>>217248868Norm has kids????
>Avatar 4: Bubbles and Foam>The now-adult Sully kids go to the northern pole of Pandora to seek help from the ice Tulkun against the new wave of skypeople, stronger than ever>But these Tulkun are evil, and have rejected Eywa, after an underwater volcano eruption destroyed the stack of rocks they had been building leisurely to cope with the absence of violence, nature's favorite pastime>the ice Tulkun ally with the humans and only Toruk Makto can stop them
>>217248397no but he looks cute. if they're doing it right this could become the next big hero 6 i can already imagine the incest shota doujins
I’m so desperate for more avatar that I would take 4 and 5 being novels at this point
>>217248981I believe it's from the FaA's official guide
Tsireya is underrated >petite>super chill>curvy>huge eyes>helps with woodworking>not a warrior or shaman chick
I just realized you can just go to the gym to get buff and then rape people pretty much at will. Most people won't be able to do anything about it, and you can probably rape a whole busload before you get restrained by a force of authority or an angry mob. This changes everything.
>>217248961Is his Avatar considered ugly by Na'vi standards? They seem to care a lot more about character than appearance ( obviously because they are aliens).
>>217249130What’s stopping norm doing the transfer like Jake?
>>217249001Trying to connect by using an element from his old life on earth ( BORGHER STRONG. MURICA BORGHER)
>>217249135No shit. Any other great revelations you might wanna bless us with?
>>217249139The Sully kids certainly seem to think lowly of him
>>217249159Probably getting shot in his avatar in the first movie made him a bit reluctant. If things go to shit he has a spare but if he goes with the transfer and gets into mortal danger he might permanently die.
>>217249220A ladder, a hardhat and a reflective vest are a blessing if taking big shits on restricted areas is your thing.
>>217249278I don't remember that but than again they're teens. Being dicks is pretty standard for them.
>>217248860pretty sure he was specifically selected for height so he could make the scenes work. Even then they had to shorten the Na'vi to 9ft
>>217249323>I don't remember thatIn Way of Water they're hanging out at the lab where Grace's avatar is and wonder about who Kiri's dad might be, when they suggest Norm as a joke Kiri goes>I would kill myself
>>217249175Burger date w/ Varang...
>>217249139>>217248961I wouldn't call him objectively ugly, he's just a normal-looking guy compared to gigachads like Jake and Quaritch. I could definitely see him being popular with Na'vi girls who prefer a sensitive geeky type. And don't forget, skymen might look exotic to them compared to the true Na'vi
>>217249339He was cast as a kid. Are you telling me they went through hie family lines and inspected his progenitors to make sure he'd at least be above x height?[Spoiler]Based if so, FUCK manlets[/Spoiler]
>>217249343They are teenagers and Norm to them must be the uncool nerdy uncle
>>217249397test
>>217248820Kinda unrelated, but now that we know that Kiri can apparently plug her kuru to random plants and shit, I've always wondered whether it's possible for a kuru-less human to still make a connection with a na'vi, maybe by directly plugging it into your brain or something (Of course the connection wouldn't be as good, but it's still better than nothing)
>>217249376
>>217249482PEAK
>>217249397Jack Champion was like 13 when they filmed Way of Water and already around 6ft
>spends days in his Avatar formNorm seems to be going native as much as his limitations allow him to
Would plugging the tendrilled end of a kuru to a standard power outlet of 200V fatally electrocute a Na'vi?
>>217249569No it would project their deepest darkest subconscious fantasies onto the screenIt only works on CRT though
>>217249284This. Driving an avatar is an advantage as much as it is a handicap
>>217249565>Norm's frontal charge into machine guns and heavy autocannons got the Olangi massacredO-oops...
>>217243592Spider was created by Cameron to fulfill the thematic role of showing that humanity is not inherently tainted and doesn't have to atone for the original sin of not being a na'vi. He's supposed to be a self-insert for the audience; not everyone can be Jake and be lucky enough to get an avatar, but we can all be Spider. We (humans) can join the People fully even if we're not blue, because the soul is what matters. I do agree with what you guys are saying, though. He's not a very interesting personality. Quaritch telling him about his real mom and Spider asking for the dog tag was a well done scene only to be completely undone 4 minutes later. Spider being affected by what Quaritch told him would be interesting to see. He doesn't have to betray the na'vi because of it, but it would be interesting to see him at least struggle with some of it.
>is feared by even the bravest Na'viHumanChads won.
>>217249339I wonder if they keep his human height for A4 or have him grow to navi height because he has the fungus in him
>>217249380We’ve established that human avatar have bigger cocks than native navi
>>217249557I always knew but it just occurred to me that Spider's nakedness is fully CGIed. What a quality, I rolled with him being naked from the very beginning for how realistic and natural it looked.
>>217249482This probably happened though, Quaritch probably took Varang on a tour of the city, including the food spots
>>217249565What book is this and do they have them for twow and faa?
>>217249699Not always. It depends on the scene
>>217248961>best looking native chick
>>217249652Spider is a teenager who was born and raised on Pandora, I don't think there's much conflict in him being a physically human beyond his daddy issues. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually more fluent in Na'vi than in English
>>217249699Yeah I never actually thought it was cgi. That’s insane
>>217247790Sylwanin was probably much more suited to be the tsahik, but when she died the scrambled for a replacement and figured Neytiri was the next best thing and Mo'at could teach her to make up for the difference. Interestingly Neytiri is still considered a trainee tsahik even after moving to the metkayina, even if she's clearly much better at fighting and not actually interested in being a shaman.
>>217249737>That’s insaneCuz*
>>217249700she was enthralled by the human's flaming cooking pits
Imagine the laughs if Cameron got him for the role of Ian Garvin instead of what's his name.>"Ian Garvin, I'm a marine biologist">crowd erupts in laughter
>>217249720I don't think the critics are completely fair to the kid, he's playing pretend with nobody to bounce off and his acting is being compared to the juggernauts like Zoe Saldaña, Stephen Lang and Oona Chaplin. He's not Marlon Brando or young Al Pacino, not at all, but I'm sure he's trying his best
>>217249757>>217249482I wish drawfags were around more, I'd like to see her and Quaritch doing a little grillin' (for god's sake)
Why do people say Avatar 4 is the one Jim wanted to make the most?
>>217249822Because he said so himself
>>217249699Some scenes are CGI but for others he literally had to act naked with some dummies that are stand ins for the characters. Probably why his delivery is weaker at times.
>>217249815>Quaritch starts the grill>stares into the flames>"man I wish Mansk was here"
Cliff Curtis is an underrated actor desu
>>217248868his wife has very large tits for a navi
>>217249722She does seem pretty curvy and I'm pretty sure that's Norms type.
>>217249851TrueLoved his Tonowari
>>217249792He sells a kid his age in that environment very well. It's an extrovert kid keeping in touch with two families, he's playful but you can tell it's also a coping mechanism. I assume most people giving him shit have long grown out of teendom and don't bother looking back to realize how they were seen by their elders, as energetic goofballs.
>>217249841>I really shoulda been more careful with which Recoms I put in danger. All I got left is Lyle... glad I punched that prick in the face
>>217249846everyone forgot about Pril
>>217249922>is born under extreme peril>"I think I'll name her Pril"Awesome writing Cameron, 5 stars with thumbs up.
>>217249938Tolkien would be proud
it looks like Quaritch throws Neytiri's bow to Lyle when he says spoils of war, but Lyle isn't at the fight
>>217249825Where and for what reason cuz
>>217249960>moments the crowd cheered at
>>217249962>the Whales are super smart>they have music, songs, art, religion and write large epic fantasy novels about how good it is to live in peaceful times, smoking pipeweed, and tending gardens>name them Tolkiensbravo Cameron
>>217249960fr he be chillin with neteyem now
>>217249908>*Clacks tongs*>Sully was right. These guys are hot.*Cue credits*
>Varang around the Mangkwan...Varang around Quaritch
>>217250000Qvads of CREATIVITY
>>217249975Uh oh, Lyle just may have been at the final battle...
>>217250056I wanna see more of Varang's butt
>make best male character in a movie the past two decades wirh quaritch >make best female character in a movie the past two decades with varang Cameron is the goat
>>217250095never beating the extensive reshoots allegations
>>217250101>makes best talking former-pacifist loose cannon space whale character in a movie the past two decades with PayakanHow does he do it
>>217250095Pandoran blue hour is so pretty
why didn't the tulkun just swim under the flux vortex?
>>217250173High IQs have a hard time thinking outside the box
>Yes, officer, I did in fact see the shitskins heading north to Spain
>>217249851I feel like they cucked Tonowari in this one. Him backing down to the kids was weak, and everyone I know who's seen the movie has commented on him letting his 9 month pregnant wife fight in the battle. Both of those could have been handled differently imo
>>217250310He also completely disappears from the movie during the end battle
>>217249565>>217249716Visual Dictionary for TWOW
>>217250310To be fair, Ronal was an absolute retard and would have gotten involved eventually even if told to stay behind, it was inevitableHere's hoping Pril doesn't inherit her mother's retardation
>>217250370Tsireya couldn't be more different. Probably the meekest na'vi in the movies
>>217250354>Norm spends as much time as possible in his Avatarit would be interesting if they made his human body look emaciated and run down since he neglects it rather than just the beard. But he'd need more on screen time for anything worthwhile
>>217250354Are they making one for fire and ash?
>>217250391>EmaciatedHe's probably hooked up to several nutrient drips. I'd be more concerned about muscle atrophy and wasting
>>217250310Tonowari does advise her to not go into battle in Way of Water. She tells him to fuck off. She was determined to get killed fighting for some reason. I feel like that sort of "No man can tell me what to do!" and "I'm still a bad ass even when heavily pregnant!" feminism wasn't in the first movie as much. The women would still do what the Chief said and treated his word as law.
>>217250390Tsireya is the best candidate for a normal navi wife though
>>217250492Eh, Grace has to force Jake to feed his human body in the first movie. But just something to show he's neglecting it more than not shaving would be interesting.
>>217245584funny
>>217250493>I feel like that sort of "No man can tell me what to do!" and "I'm still a bad ass even when heavily pregnant!" feminism wasn't in the first movie as muchKudos to Jimbo for not pussying out and making Ronal actually suffer the consequences of her retarded actions. Tonowari should've just found his balls in her pouch and tied her up
I watched 1 in the cinema 2 on Disney+3 on a camripI’m sorry
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQdYoOdIAPM>Varang rides this creature called the "Nightwraith", but internally we just call her Ashleykek, cute
>>217250577There won't be an Avatar 4 because of (You)
I am of the opinion that all navi would shit themselves (especially neytiri) if they found out just how barbaric humans were throughout history even when they were also banging rocks together to make toolsI guess by now navi have a general understanding that humans are violent and industrious but they don't actually know the full extent of how far back human savagery and ferocity goes, even if they themselves have 12 million years of stagnant history being passed down through oral tradition
>>217250577that just depicts the deteriorating state of your brain over the last 16 years
>>217250607Na'vi are not super peaceful and do kill each other and have clan wars. Na'vi do already think the Humans are insane.
>>217250586Jake's Ikran is named Bob
Na'vi with human skin
>>217241656>in another timeline, Will Smith plays Jake SullyHow many billies?
>>217250493It's odd because it's really just that one character: Neytiri makes a point of refusing to contradict Jake in public, like the guy above said Tsireya is quite meek, Kiri is not physically imposing and would be pretty helpless without her powers, Varang has a great dynamic with Quaritch. Then you have this girlboss stronk queen who gets herself shot by charging into battle with her baby about to arrive.
>>217250614It honestly does. I’m scared to go to the movies alone now
>>217250727>>217250727>>217250727New thread
>>217250737I went to 3 alone and 2 rows behind me sat a pair of cute girls who arrived after me. They were giggling throughout the movie but it struck me as odd that they were doing it even in the serious parts. Did they just find the navi silly?
>>217250634Yeah, but Na'vi typically kill each other out of rivalry and tribal scuffles.We have archeological evidence (among historical accounts) that early humans killed each other for seemingly no reason besides pointless disagreements, practiced cannibalism even when food was not scarce and built entire religions and industries out of organized slaughter.It's like if you found out your slightly assholish but otherwise approachable and normal neighbor idolized the Manson murders, defended the Holodomor and was a hardcore Khmeraboo behind closed doors.
>>217250655And Quaritch named his Cupcake
>>217250691Second and third wouldn’t have got the funding. First I can see still making bank
>>217250634>Na'vi are not super peaceful and do kill each other and have clan wars.Do you have an official source on na'vi intertribal warfare?
>>217249853>na'vi prefer sticcs since they're all lanklets>she grew up as the ugly chick for having big tits and swinging hipsNorm won
