Keep your ciders cold for episode 5previous >>217965647
fat father
What's my name?
A TOASTTO MY DEAR POSTERS
How great is the Other sex that caused the Night King to turn on his brothers?
>>217970824Dunk a kino
I want to FUCK the Ashford girl.
>>217970852Icy pussy is like crack to northern men
>>217970782
>>217970875
Maester Aemon dead at 104, he was a fucking kid...
What's the next thing this little shit is going to leak?
>>217970875Wouldn't have happened if Dunk was there
>>217970900I wonder how many seasons the series going to have since working with child actors kinda put you on a deadline
>>217970900GRRM has no plans on finishing Winds and Dream
Thank you Sarah Smith! Fuck you Sara Hess!
>>217970911The book has long timeskips, they'll be fine if they pace it properly
>>217970833
Why are the Dothraki so poorly writen unlike their real-world counterpart?
>>217970900>I mean obvious aegon becomes a dra->dammit dex shut up
>>217970924We already knew Dex.
>>217970900N+A=J
>>217970944It's the same with the Ironborn
>>217968000Based trips of trvth. I hope that's AWOIAF and not the other faggot mod
I am bit worried how many girls have been fucked pregnant at age of 14-16 in this universe. Are men really just pigs?
>>217970965This would be the biggest shitfest in the fandom in ages, perhaps everOf course it won't happen because It's not true
....semoc eH
redgrass, what ever happened there
>>217970980DependsPaesant women waited until they were a bit older, around 20, to make the birth easier thanks to a bigger stronger body and to be able to better support the childNoblewomen could be sold off for alliances as early as 13 years old and had to produce heirs as quickly as possible, but if no match was found they were expected to remain chaste (or at least not get pregnant) until a bit later so age could vary a lot depending on situation
Daily reminder Aerys II got PTSD when he saw his granddad become a dragon in Summerhall (and fucked shit up) which is a contributing factor that made him bipolar and insane.Also this is where Aerys got the idea he can become a dragon himself.
>“I looked for you in the /cel/ discussion thread,” Stannismod said to them. >“We were not there,” Ser Firefu answered. >“Woe to Moot if we had been,” said Ser Buttslut. >“When the General was deleted, the mods slew your waifus with a golden banhammer, and I wondered where you were.” >“Far away,” Ser Firefu said, “or we'd still be posting, and our false brother would burn in seven 404's.” >“I came down on /got/ to lift the siege,” Stannismod told them, “and the Lords CLEGANEBOWL and Eurio dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.” >“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Frogfu. >“Ser Rickonbro is fled to /y/, with that boy he swears he didn't molest. I thought you might have sailed with him.” >“Ser Rickonbro is a shitposter and true,” said Ser Buttslut. >“But not of the Waifuguard,” Ser Firefu pointed out. “The Waifuguard does not flee.” >“Then or now,” said Ser Frogfu. He donned his helm. >“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Firefu. >Stannismod's janitors moved up beside him, with shadow banhammers in hand. They were seven against three. >“And now it begins,” said Ser Frogfu, the Sword of Firsts. He unsheathed Ellie_shopping.gif and held it with both hands. Her skin was pale as milkglass, alive with light. >“No,” Stannismod said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”
The realization that the IRL equivalent of Alysanne is Alison pissed me off.
>>217971045No. He was completely sane. Everyone was plotting against him (the big Great Houses alliance network). There were spies in the walls (Varys'), the Northern Lords did betray him (they came for Rhaegar's head), etc. In fact, he wasn't paranoid enough because he trusted Tywin. He had long nails and long hair, so what? Lots of people do. He's the King. He's fucking BUSY. He doesn't have time for grooming.
>>217971066Alysanne: noble, regal, fierce, my queenAlison: dumb, low class, probably a whore
>>217971045he went insane when he saw Barristan Selmy become a tornado of death when rescuing him, the targ mind was too fragile to witness some many brutal deaths in such a quick manner by a single man.
>>217970900Dany is a Lyseni street rat born from the pleasure gardens.
>>217971102This Anon gets it.
>>217971092>the Northern Lords did betray him (they came for Rhaegar's head)>Ei! Just let the prince kidnap the daughter of the Warden of the North, what are you, a traitor?
>>217971045Where did the dragon go?
Who suffers from chud son disease the most
>>217971126>>217971092It's even worse, with Lyanna's testimony the situation could have probably been solved peacefully, but he HAD to burn both alive in front of the whole court before even trying to reach out to Rhaegar
You could argue that Jackie 2 was the worst Targ king and doomed the dynasty. By INSISTING on committing incest, he begat the Mad King, and the rest was history.
>>217971145I was going to say Rhaegar... but fucking lmao, Viserys, it's definetly Viserys and his two chud sons
>>217971174>RhaegarMaekar, meant to say MaekarHim or Aegon IV, but Aegon relished his chud sons, so it would not be a disease for him
>>217971174Aemond is pretty chuddish himself, he got extremely pissed that Daemon was teaching commoners how to ride dragons.
>>217971145>my fucking chud son disease tier list#1: Viserys II#2: Maekar#3: Aegon I
>>217971145Maekar
>>217971159Brandon was shouting treason. His father was given trial by combat when asked. He didn't execute them.
>>217971145Rhaenyra, but that's okay, because all her strong boys are going to die.Viserys II was also pretty bad, letting his wife go and letting Aegon the Unworthy become a monster are all on him.
>>217971202That's my point, both Aegon and Aemond are prime chuds (in different ways)https://youtu.be/MY3b2necyS4?t=58
>>217971214ACK
>>217971168Also a massive hypocrite, his dad let him married who he love but he didn't let Aerys marry who he loved.
>>217971092>>217971105Aerys WAS in Summerhall right? Surely it affected him somehow when it killed some of his family members.(Also I was double checking to answer the anon below, it was also theorized in the other board I swear I haven't read that over there so don't tell me to go back...)>>217971127Transformed back into Egg after Duncan killed it then Egg's body was burned to a crisp. Also didn't Daeron dream that it had fallen on top of Duncan. I think Egg 'hulked up' to become a dragon because why not, GRRM's stealing ideas all over the place.
>>217971174Fucking Hightower autism genes
>>217971242It is crazy how Jaime got away with this. Kingsguard vows should have zero meaning after this. At least he should have kicked out of the guard.
>>217971291Aerys was a traitor to the realm so it was justified
>>217971145Got to be Viserys II, he sorta had three chud sons
>>217971291>At least he should have kicked out of the guardI bet Tywin proposed it but Robert kept him in to spite him
>>217971250>Aerys WAS in Summerhall right? Surely it affected him somehow when it killed some of his family members.Nah, Targs are used to seeing people burning to death, what they aren't used to is seeing Selmy becoming the avatar of death and leaving hallways full of blood and viscera.
the real question should be who suffers from loving their chud son
>>217971300Yes but nobody knows that
>>217971351Everyone knows he executed the starks for no good reason
>>217971347Aegon V because he let his sons do whatever they want
>>217971339People getting burned in Summerhall (perhaps with wildfire even) probably aroused Aerys that's why later in life he likes burning people alive.
>>217971347Aegon loved his chud sons so much he caused not one but several civil wars
>>217971347hardmode:no women
>>217971366He didn't kill him for that
>>217970900What did he leak?
>>217971377oh man
>>217971373Wasn't he mainly did so because he hate his first born?
>>217971389Dunk survives SummerhallHenry Cavill will be in season 2
>>217971347book allicent
>>217970944Because GRRM actually know very little about history - plus his lack of knowledge about warfare, linguistics, religion, commerce, construction, climatology, biology, and so many other things. There is nothing inherently wrong with that in itself and the story he wants to tell, the issues only come if GRRM thinks himself as being super big brained about something he is not and when you get people who make out his setting is hype realistic when it is not. GRRM's strength is generally in characters, not actual substantive and robustly coherent worldbuilding of the wider setting they inhabit.
I've had enough of the Aerys revisionism.
>>217971398Yes, he hated his reddit son and loved his chud bastard sons
>>217971373Daemon a chud? based retard but pretty chad for someone who was born from chud
The larys and alicent foot scene but filmed during the era of season 1 GOT. They would have made him jerk off for like 15 straight seconds and then cum on her feet.
>>217971420ThisIn this general we only accept Maegor revisionism (true history)
>>217971347Tywin
Dunk decided to just fuck off? Dex is spilling lies
>>217971432Bittersteel and Bloodraven are literally 2 /pol/posters constantly insulting one another while Daemon is a /fit/chad
>>217971059Just reminded me about how abrupt and unceremonial Meera's ending is in the show despite literally dragging Bran the Broken around.
>>217971469lol
>>217971059Waifus gone and forgotten as tears in the rain.
>>217971420You prefer that Aerys got insane because the voice he hears is actually real and it's actually Bran from the future telling him not to burn his grandfather alive.Aerys don't want to be told so he kept saying 'burn them all'
>>217971420Robert is/was usurper and has no claim to the throne because danny is living
>>217971469Daemon listened to the wrong chud brother -_-
>>217971500the other chud tried to arrest him so
>>217971291The way it seems framed is Kingsguard only get booted off the Kingsguard through execution or being sent to the Night's Watch. There is such a huge deal of Barristan being relieved of duty in the way he was as being something that was unprecedented. Even if you get people not liking Jaime on the Kingsguard it just seems a lot of those people would also sperg out in anger that he is just being released and getting rewarded effectively by getting to become heir to an entire region.
>>217970897
>>217971168Egg is worse as he could have prevented Jaehaerys forcing the marriage. Jaehaerys did it whilst just a prince and not king.
>>217970782TAOOBA!
My king.
>>217971168It's possible the incest was necessary to create Daenerys
>>217970875What the fuck is this? What is it from?
>>217971600Wow, with this new perspective on things he truly comes off as much worse
>>217971605I dreamed it
>>217971612Do all girls in Lys dress like that or only the chaste ones
>>217971455>Dunk decided to just fuck off?One theory is that he went to lady Rohanne webber and they spent their old age together, other is that he want to the Wall and became part of Bloodraven's plan, eventually becoming Coldhands.
>>217970782Lorefags, does bloodraven even know what the fuck he's doing? what was the purpose of making Egg shit his pants giving him that prophecy about his death? is he just trolling at this point?
>>217971612>Henrietta Woodhull was sobbing as she curtsied. :(
>>217971605Someone from the thread I stole it from said its Maya from the Ragnarok anime.
are you applemaxxing /dunk/?
>>217971639>is he just trolling at this point?Always wasIf you didn't get it yet, cuckraven is a complete retard who misunderstood his own prophecies into committing kinslaying and dooming house Targaryen
https://x.com/jubruush/status/2022125476261900599
>>217971639He was surprised himself, probably tripping on some weirwood bloodmagic concoction made by Shiera.
>>217971498His claim came from conquest not heritage. The day Robert was crowned, the line of succession moved to the baratheon line
>>217971612Uuoohhh Daenaera seexooo ToT
GREEN APPLE CHAD
>>217971639No, there's actually another player. The three-eyed crow who we don't know the identity of.
>>217971612>Aegon III had to go through all that bullshit to find a wife and didn't even have a heir>Vizy 2 got married off to a prime valeryan beauty that wasn't related to him, and she came free with a giant bodyguard with a huge valyrian steel sword.
>>217971764insanely based
>>217971800>Vizy 2>one of the best rulers>one of the best wives>worst children
>>217971764Not too fond of Valyrian illegal aliens
>>217971840>Raymun is pro-ICEWell, shit.
>>217971800>prime valeryan beautyHow unimpeachable would you say her stock was?
>takes one sip of ciderLetting catholics vote in elections was a mistake
How great of a fighter is Barristan Selmy in the books? I know in the show they just wasted him because they are hacks.
YOUYes youYou managed to take the throne after Robert's death, how is up to youYou now have to choose a wife to be your queen out of the women alive in the series the day Robert diedWho is your pick? Which ones would make a good queen? Which ones would you keep as far from the capital as possible?For me its MargaeryShe's manipulative but not in a dumb bitch way like Cersei, she would really help me a lot as queen.
>>217971879Prime Barry was canonically the strongest character in the entire saga.
>>217971879#2 according to a loretuber whose opinions I repackage as my own
>>217971867>>217971840
>>217971879Prime Barristan Selmy was straight up legendary, Arthur Dane was probably the better sword fighter, but Selmy has the best feats.
>>217971879I think he faced Maelys the Monstrous 1.25v1 on horseback and killed him.
>>217970529get over yourself you fucking faggot. berserk is a comic book about a whiny bitch who got raped and then watched his girl get fucked in front of him.
>>217971891Daenerys
>>217971874>after a whole bottle of ciderConstantine "the great"? Don't make me laugh, who even calls him that? Maybe the (((priests))), curse him and his semitic god, he ruined Rome.
>>217970875Was it necessary to rape her?
>>217971612Patricia Redwyne >>> AllDornish slut and Lysene slut may stay as concubines.
>>217971931She has dragons but she would use them to boss me around and basically rule in my steadAnd her rulings would be stupid, in Essos she left disaster and chaos everywhere she wentI can see the appeal if you believe yourself capable of tardwrangling her but is it worth the effort?
>>217971872Just having white silver hair should be enough, besides, the injection of new genes to the targ bloodline from her probably keep them from falling into inbreeding madness for at least a few more generations.
>>217971922>1.25v1kek
>>217971891I would actually pick Margaery too, and ask lady Olenna to quickly and quietly get rid of Littlefinger and Pycelle.
>>217971879consistent top 3 spot, the fact that he’s never wielded a Valyrian steel sword is a crime
>>217971960>>217971612Patricia is top tier but I also like the Bolton lady, we could be doomers togetherI also feel a weird "I can fix her" for the lys girl, but not for the dornish girl for some reason
>>217971963I don't wanna have to fight her and her three dragons.
>>217971879He beat Maelys Blackfyre, and Maelys was a fucking abomination of a man who would put the mountain to shame, so prime Barristan was a gigachad
>>217971879Competed as mystery knight when 10 and got dubbed the bold. Slayed Maelys the Monstrous, this huge and strong Blackfyre pretender, in battle. Killed bandits of the Kingswood Brotherhood. Rescued Aerys in a one man mission from captivity. Fought at the Battle of the Trident where he was wounded. Subjugated one of the islands of the Iron Islands during the Greyjoy Rebellion. When Joffrey dismisses him from the Kingsguard he kills two guards as he leaves the city without having a sword. When he goes over to Daenerys he is still presented as still be a legitimately dangerous fighter despite being in his 60s. In terms of actual feats, he has way more to his name than Jaime.
When you think about it, Lancel should have been groomed to inherit Casterly Rock, what with Jaime being Kingsguard and Tyrion being Tyrion.
>>217971639When he first told Dunk that he'd be richer than a Lannister, he didn't act surprised, but immediately shat his pants too when he saw Egg's future.
>>217971879In the books, none of the so called top tier fighters actually accomplish the high tier deeds they ought to have under their belt in order to be called top tier. All the big guys like Barristan and Dayne and Jaime all had fairly mediocre combat careers and were hyped more than they were tested. That's not to say they were bad, they likely were the best, but they weren't actually in as much combat as GRRM would want you to think.
>>217970944redpill me on some mongol history kinobest one I know is the khan calling for an immortal sage to come meet him across the world, the sage goes "you'll live longer if you hunt less, its bad karma." the khan going "you're right, I will do that" and then the next week going on a hunt
>>217970900
>>217971972Well he's bigger 'cause of his twin inside of him or.......>>217970900Dex might later on list Dunk's descendants or confirm them to be Brienne, Hordor, the Cleganes and even Maelys the Monstrous.
>>217972049>and Tyrion being TyrionIt doesn't work like thatTyrion is the heir and everyone but Tywin had accepted it, including Kevan who never even tried to prepare Lancel to take over.
>>217972063Barristan absolutely does, storming Duskendale by himself and saving the king is the stuff of legends. The others not so much.
>>217972049Tywin should have just remarried if he was the actual pragmatic man he made himself out to be. He setting Lancel up to inherit is not going to happen as Tywin wants Jaime to be it despite Jaime never attempting to leave the Kingsguard and really, beyond just being Tywin's son and good at a sword, not having much inclination or exceptional ability that Tywin would consider suited for his ideal heir.
>>217972063Barristan at least has age and a lot of combat. Dayne very young, I would say too young.
>>217971168Jaehaerys II was actually a good king, and the Targaryens had been committing incest for hundreds of years
>>217971879prime Barristan>Dayneprime Barristan>Jaimeprime Bartistan>Aemon the dragonknightprime Barristan>Daemon Blackfyre prime Barristan<prime Bobby B
>>217972063>>217972091Barristan has the deeds, and he attested for Dayne as better than him and for Jaime as his equal or close to him at least, and I see no reason to doubt his word Jaime kind of got fucked over by the mad king keeping him close the whole war and then 20 years of peace from Robert, meaning his best years were wasted
>>217972098>not having much inclination or exceptional ability that Tywin would consider suited for his ideal heir.In feast for crows Jaime starts showing than when put to the test he has decent aptitudes as a leader when in the riverlands. He will never be a political schemer like Tyrion but he can definetly rule.
>>217972116Thousands. The incest was a Valyrian tradition. They had been practicing it in old Valyria before the doom too, as all Dragonlord families did.
>>217972129Bobby B only really beats all the best fighters because he’s the only one of them that doesn’t main swords in a world of plate armor
>>217972098Tywin is a hypocrite and full of contradictions. He loved his wife, that’s why he didn’t remarry. Charles Dance is unironically poorly cast if they cast some non-striking bald guy with mutton chops everyone would see right through him
>>217972129>prime Bobby BRealistically, prime bobby with warhammer is pretty nasty opponent. Rhaegar was pretty good not to die instanly.
>>217972131Barristan claimed that Jaime was the best natural swordfighter he ever saw
>>217972191Rhaegar was trained by Barristan and Arthur Dayne so yeah he better be good at worst
>>217972063By the events of the main series beginning Barristan has fought in three wars - one of which he basically ended against a Mountain tier foe. That is not included the Duskendale and Kingswood Brotherhood incidents. As far as knights go in the setting he is especially tested. How much more do you want? There is going to be stretches of time where highly skilled knights do not fight in any wars given the realm is at peace. Barristan is not a tourney knight or knight of summer but an actually bloodied killer and veteran.
>>217972183I don't think barristan can out warhammer bobbyHe uses a sword because he has a good mix of dex/strBut prime bobby b broke his human limiter on str to a ridicolous amountThe one who should really consider a warhammer is gregor clegane
>>217972129it’s crazy how often I see this take everywhere, did George specifically give his top 10 or something
>>217972220George considers Jaime his strongest swordsman last I heard of him but we based powerscalers have chosen to ignore his nonsense after he said he could beat Aragorn (lol)
>>217972220You can just base it off Barristan's feat of killing Maelys, which was an act for the ages. Maelys was far stronger than the Mountain, and wasn't a lumbering brute like the Mountain either.
>>217972220he's gotta do something to justify all the writing he isnt doing
>>217972063Killing the Smiling Knight isn’t a worthy deed?
>>217971874Why was he so racist against foreigners? And against refugees at that!
>>217972207yeah and while prime Barristan, Jaime, Aemon, Daemon might be faster than Bobby, it’s not gonna be by much to make a difference, Bobby strength gaps all of them while being fast, in full plate, with a warhammer and rage and battle iq. For one year he must’ve been the most unbeatable single human combatant who on the planet if not who ever lived
>>217972270Tyrion with his plot armor could take him easily
>>217972205>Barristan is not a tourney knight or knight of summer but an actually bloodied killer and veteran.This. At old age he is slower and weaker but his experience is ridiculous. In prime he is easily canditate for warrior of the century.
>>217972220George would keep all those people in his top 10 but he would probably redo the order in a retarded way
>>217970833Salud brother!
>>217972284>human>tyrion
>>217972129It’s funny how the standards for being a warrior got higher after the dragons died
>>217972284Tyrion would stumble around blindly and manage to headbutt Bobby off his warhorse
AND WHAT OF GOOD MAYNARD PLUMM?
>>217972284I always found Tyrion's battle prowess odd but I understand why Grrm did decide to give him those small wins
>dunkit's amazing how well this show establishes characters with such little screen time
>>217972331It's more of a fact that we cannot know how strong famous targaryens were before the dragons diedLike, Daemon and Aemond might be killing machines but how could we ever know? When you have a dragon you are going to use that, not go fight in the mud with the plebs.Criston Cole would definetly have a place in the top 10 fighters of westeros
>>217970782Who is canonically the best mother? As in a mother who both raised several capable people but also left them lots of power and set them up for long term success when she died too.
>>217972342It would be okay if he was acrobat like in winterfell
>>217972362... Visenya.I will not elaborate.
>>217972331all of human history is like that. If you got rid of guns and everything related we’d all go back to melee shit
>>217972342Puns, really, anon?
>>217972361Cole? top 20 at best. Daemon Targ and Aemond not even top 40
>>217972362Jeyne Marbrand?All of Tywin's siblings are surprisingly competent considering how retarded their father was, so one must assume she played a big role in that.
>>217971764I appreciate an actor who gets into and enjoys their roles
>>217972362Alysanne?
>>217972392>Small winsKek, I didn't even realizehttps://youtu.be/F3rXKKGsfpk?t=60
>>217972362Is there ANY mother/son incest in this franchise?
>>217972445That is too fucked up *rapes another girl while biting her tits off*
>>217972404It really doesn't matter, the point is that we could never know because before the end of the dragons all deeds were measured in dragons so great swordsmen will naturally go unnoticed
>>217972362Alysanne aka best imouto
dunk the lunk over here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Q4-PSwutc
>>217972445Nope although GRRM himself has 2 younger sisters and...well...
>>217972362Alyssa VelaryonManaged to protect Jahaerys & Alysanne from Maegor & Visenya.Raised one of the greatest kings of Westeros.
>>217972362Alerie Tyrell
>>217972445No, which is why this franchise is shit
It's not even Saturday night yet
>>217972517Yes he’s cute we know
>>217972445no, but Aegon IV might’ve fucked his daughter
>jaehaerys and alysanne had 13 kidsHow good was that pussy? My god.
>>217972362Daena the defiant
>>217972583She wasn't called the Good Queen for nothin.
>>217972362Allysane (if you were male)Daena (if you were chad)
>>217972583since they were both like 14 anon, never cheated once
Daena has literally done nothing to indicate she was a good mother, why do Blackfyre shits do this
Anyone notice post Daeron II, queens of Westeros and princesses become incredibly irrelevant till Aerys II
It's the february 14th and I am arguing about asoiaf girls onlineNot even anime girls, asoiaf girls
>>217972635She had a fighter personality and raised a fighter, simple as
>>217972652The one that was promised being the notable exception
>>217972635she was a hot Targaryen tomboy, they come like once a century
>>217972652Aerys was a volcel, Maekar’s wife died Betha BlackwoodCersei Lannister
>>217972583>13 kids>how good was that pussyumm....
>>217972653The Gods aren't down here, it's just the six of us, you hear me
>>217972695that’s not how the vagina works
>>217972695How kind of your mom to let you take that picture.
>>217972722There is an important subset of the 4chan userbase who truly thinks past the first time, the vagina stops being pleasurable.
>>217972746I used to think that way, then I hooked up with a 44 year old mother of two who could easily pass for late twenties wooooo man
>>217972790It's almost as if the vagina is designed to reproduce more than once to mantain a large population huh
Cute and canon!
>>217970900>leak?There was no "leak", they wanted the info released as could have easily edited out the kid's comment.
>>217971469> Bittersteel and Bloodraven
>>217972129I think he could take down prime Bobby B, but he would have to cheese it, like running away until he gets tired and then poke him in a hole in his armor.
Is it honorable to have mistress if your marriage is political and your wife is horrible?
>>217972880its sometimes understandable, its never honorable
>>217972863You don’t run away from a stagalso Barristan or really any of the top fighters want to win by cheesing, if we count cheesing then the other top tier fighters could probably win too
>>217972635her thighs were big in some fanart I sawshe's okay in my book
>>217972894Fuck....
>>217972880no unless dornish
>>217972835
>>217972880if the mistress has valyrian silver hair, it is honorable
>>217972926*wouldnt want to win
How is dunk so big if he grow up poor?
>>217972949>Varys lets his hair grow out>receeding ratlike hairlineoh fuck, he was a cryptobracken all along
>>217972971Genetics.His grandson the mountain ate well and grew much larger.
>>217972972Bloodraven has the most receded hairline house Targaryen has ever seen
>>217972880Maybe if you have like two or three true born sons with your wife first. Bastards cause too many problems in Westeros. Also don't give your bastards any swords. I guess in Dorne it's less troublesome.
>>217972949kek
>>217972880As the other anon said, honorable it is notBut if your wife already gave you a trueborn heir, an agreement can surely be reached by both parties. I am sure it was not uncommon in the past for political marriages that went sour. What can't be done is what Rahenyra and Laenor did (not make a single trueborn while fucking around since day one)
>>217970980That's literally how all of human history worked. The extended adolescence in modern society is a new invention and it's tanking the birth rates in western nations. You viewing it through some sort of self righteous faggot moral lens is exhausting.
>>217973077Your solution is to....fuck children?
>>217972930Why would an athletic archer’s thighs be large?
>>217972949Bloodraven will win thoughever so this doesn’t make any sense
>>217973077>and it's tanking the birth rates in western nationsIt's not even in the top 5 reasons>That's literally how all of human history workedNot reallyNobles had to do it fast for heirs, but peasants waited more because a 13 year old is likely to die in childbirth
>>217971092>varyshired by Aerys himself and he trusted him over Rhaegar>northern lords betrayed himasking for an honor duel after a scumbag stole your sister isn't betrayal>big Great Houses alliance networkmaking allies via marriage isn't plotting, it's standard behavior. You can't blame the Starks considering the first time Rickard met Aerys he was ordered to build a 2nd Wall in the North(with no funding from the crown). Aerys was insane even before Duskendale
>>217973116>he thinks the three eyed raven currently possessing Bloodraven's body is BloodravenCuckraven is fucking dead anon, and Bran will soon also be dead when he gets possessed
>>217971498>all of Aerion's kids ruled out of succession due to his madnessRobert would have become king even if the rebellion wasn't fought and Rhaegar called a Great Council instead. There's a reason Rhaegar wanted to kill Robert and most of the rebel leaders at the Trident first before calling the council, he knew he'd lose otherwise
You are lord commander, what would you do with biter and rorge?
>>217973159His plan totally worked thoughever and his ward Bran will rule Westeros as a magic weirwood king
>>217973093horsegirl
>>217973092In agrarian societies people worked as soon as they were physically able. By the time they were 14 they had 8 years of full time work and were considered adults by their society. You're just low IQ because you can't think outside of your own cultural bias. You just want to morally grandstand and appeal to perceived consensus.>>217973133You are claiming that women waiting until 40 and getting to the very edge of menopause to have children isn't negatively impacting birth rates. You are too stupid to have this conversation please do not reply to me.
Do the Baratheons even have any Kingsblood that would be needed for Smelly Manders rituals? Robert was a usurper at the end of the day. >inb4 their Grandpa was Targ He wasn’t a king iirc
>>217973196He was used like Bran. Lured north and then possessed. Do you think Bran knows what's going to happen to him? He won't "win" just like Bloodraven hasn't won, they will be victim of rape prophecies from eldritch ice gods.
>>217973186>all of Aerion's kids ruled out of succession due to his madnessWhat the fuck? They would skip his children only if the council itself is full of madness.
>>217973077>and it's tanking the birth rates in western nations.lmao that's not the retard you fucking retard
>>217973214>he wasn’t a kingBut he had king’s blood you donkey
>>217973214>inb4 their Grandpa was Targ>He wasn’t a king iircAnon.please think for a few more moments.
>>217973225>just wait until you're 40 and fertility goes to nothing broHow are you this fucking stupid
>>217973217No, Bran will be king. Bran has already demonstrated that his abilities are far stronger than the Three-Eyed Crow.
>>217973213>You are claiming that women waiting until 40No, I am claiming that women breeding at 13 was never the key to stable societyThe reason women wait until 40 is not because of the age of consent being raised, it's because of a whole lot of retarded societal decisions>You are too stupid to have this conversationTwo days ago you got clowned on this very topic and here you are back at it againyoung teens are FIVE times more likely to fucking DIE in childbirth, at NO POINT IN HISTORY was it normal for the average man to breed 13 year old girls. The prime age was always around 20>BUT THE NOBLESThe nobles needed ALLIANCES and HEIRS FAST, they picked the fastest route not the prime breeding route
>>217970967The Ironborn make more sense when you consider that their version of a baptism basically kills them for a few moments so there's a good chance that most of them are at least partially brain damaged
>>217973256You are so stupid faggot, even hodor looks maester compared to you
>>217973077Get a job you fucking loser.People can't afford to raise children to the same extent as they could in the past.People can barely afford a place to live and stay with their parents for much longer.
>>217972063only Robert and Selmy live up to their hype in terms of actual accomplishments, Robert is underrated if anything>first over the walls at Gulltown, kills their lord and ends the battle almost singlehandidly>3 Ws in a day at Summerhall, after a full night's march to beat the opposing armies there>managed to escape Tarly without his entire army being destroyed despite the ambush in enemy territory>kills Rhaegar's squire and nearly kills Jon Connington at battle of the bells, despite the fact Robert was wounded, fighting with no armor because he was hiding in a brothel, and using a random sword he picked up>before killing Rhaegar he spent the entire battle of the trident tearing his way through their army>>217972293even as a boomer he fucking destroys one of the best pit fighters in Essos easily
>>217973256Women are waiting until 40 because they have been psyopped to fear motherhood, and because our pension/school etc system replaces the state to the nuclear familyThe age of consent being 16/18 is a minor to irrelevant factor
>>217973265It's crazy how I have to interact with people as stupid as you. Well enjoy being replaced in your own nations because you can't do basic math.
big and stupid
>>217973303>even as a boomer he fucking destroys one of the best pit fighters in Essos easilyThat is bit unfair comparison because of armor but yes, he was wise enough to wear one. But was it easy? I remember that it was pretty tough duel.
>>217973214its kingsblood, not targaryen royal lineage blood(tm)robert was king.end of story
>>217973340Your only argument is a strawman nobody is making, and you keep repeatingNOBODY has argued in favor of 40 year olds having childrenJust accept you are wrong, retard
>>217973365DURRRRRRR ME SO SMARTTTT DUURRRRRR
>>217971034Was part of that also not down to peasants being less healthy and also undergoing puberty later due to poorer diet? Or am I thinking about it wrong?
>>217972880it's basically standard, at least half the lords in the books have bastards running around. Cat herself says Edmure probably has a dozen bastards and that she'd rather Ned have 10 bastards than just Jon, because it implies he loved Jon's mother. Nobody looks down on lords who fuck women on the side>>217973219>why would the lords no vote for the kids of the madman who was burning fellow lords without triallmao
I wonder why the 25 year olds aren't having kids like they used tois it because the wages aren't keeping up with inflation, the housing market and unemployment so having children is no longer economically feasible for a lot of people early in life?Or is it because it is no longer socially acceptable to impregnate children?
>>217972001>>217971612There's a really cute story what-if story about Aegon 3 marrying the Bolton girlIt also features underage sexhttps://archiveofourown.org/works/32057488/chapters/79413133
>>217973381Possible, but nowdays >>217973265 even with modern tech early teen pregnancies are still dangerousIt's always wiser to wait until at least 16, I imagine their poor diet made things even worse.
>>217973381Yes, I think it was normal if you got first periods when you were 15-16. Today that would be late.
Wasn't expecting a discussion on declining fertility rates when I entered the thread.
>>217973214Baratheons haven Durrandon blood who were kings for thousands of years. Targs are closer to the Freys than they are to the Starks or Durrandons. Stark ancestors are fucking Others, Durrandons have blood of the Storm Gods
>>217973392And there it is. Leftist death cult retard demanding even more leftism even though it's causing him to go extinct.
Declining birth rates are the sign of highly developed nations, and the best places to live on earth.
Both anons are wrong btw, it's the existence of welfare which is why growing countries like China are also having declining birthratesBut it's not only that, it's also a tons of other things that are not to be discussed on /tv/, in /got/hotd/dunk/ of all places
>>217973468india's birthrate is declining. superpower saars
>>217973444>maybe if I screech about leftism, that will allow me to ignore reality?If you hate the idea of white people having children, keep doing as you do.Most white people want to afford having a place to raise their chidlren, and that's increasingly harder to achieve.
libtards and /pol/fags ruin yet another thread. clean this shit up jannies
>>217973472Hey I'll agree to not talk about birth rates as long as fucking retards don't reddit post about how outraged they are that people got married at 14 1000 years ago.
>>217971612>Tfw no kuudere Boltonfu
>>217973444No rebuttal btw
>>217970943and what has ser criston posted?
>>217973486No, you just want more of your leftist religion because you're too ideologically fanatical and can't think outside of it. You don't view it as a poison because it serves as your psychological bedrock and having to think outside of it terrifies you.
Daemonsisters... it's over...
>>217973521He posted about fertility rates in /got/hotd/tv/Brilliant.
>>217973510>stares at you, not blinking a single time, with her colorless Bolton eyes the entire feast without saying a wordwhat do?
Your move, /got/hotd/dunk/.
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>>217973392That’s not what’s causing declining fertility rates, it’s purely cultural
>>217973570That tent is magnificent
>>21797356413 year old me would probably fall under pressure
House of the Dragon season 3 is going to totally redeem itselfcheck out Tyland here looks pretty baddass desu. Have a BADDASS weekend everyone
>>217973525Again screeching about leftism is not an argument. You haven't address the housing market, you haven't addressed inflation, you haven't addressed wages. The reality is that it is harder to afford it.Your only argument is that you want to fuck children. Women in their 20s can have children just fine, but you cope and seethe about 40 year olds instead ignoring decades of viable fertility. You don't even care about white people you useless retarded traitor, that's a veil you wield to hide that you're a pedophile and you're mad that we no longer tolerate your degenerate behaviour.
>>217973564
>>217973608>behaviourImporting sharia law suggests you not only tolerate degeneracy, but codify it.
>>217973236>>217973244>>217973436Damn I’m retarded I thought Robert was only King because of conquest but I’m reading now about the extent of his lineage
>>217973645>I thought Robert was only King because of conquestHe was, nobody cared about whatever % of targ he had in him
>>217973570bishop c4 to 7f check mate you retard
>>217973604>totallyImpossible>redeem itselfPossible but implausible>not fuck up too muchThis is where i set the barIt's not high, but if they manage it I'll be happy
>>217972334Don't break your arm jerking yourself off Bloodraven
>>217973644Swing and a miss>aaah if only I could see his flag like my homeboard I could deflect instead of engageYou're a useless retarded pedophile
>>217973608>no it is not my leftist religion it is because you are a nonbeliever!Your argument is simply that I require more faith in your failing ideology. Of course I'm ignoring it.
>>217973645It wasn’t until after Rhaegar was dead that the nobles made the decision to overthrow the Targaryens. Robert’s Targaryen ancestry was used as a sort of sweetener but everybody knew that he was claiming it through conquest.
>>217973645he did, that was just how the maesters justified it
>>217973732rebels declared for Robert as king before the Trident, Robert having Targ ancestry was just to help the loyalists cope after the war was won like you said. he was technically 2nd in line at that point anyway with Dany not born yet
>>217973732Not really, the plan was originally to coup Aerys and install Rhaegar, then Jon Arryn changed the conspiracy to overthrowing the Targs after Rhaegar ran off and Aerys burned the Starks
>>217973077>14 year olds not getting pregnant is the main reason for declining birth rates This has gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a /got/ thread
>>217973214>>inb4 their Grandpa was Targ >He wasn’t a king iircRobert's grandma was the daughter of Aegon "Egg" the Fifth.Yeah, his claim is rather weak, but at least he was in line.Some dudes keep mentioning that Orys Baratheon was Aegon I's half-brother, but that's so far removed from the Targaryen main line that it is completely irrelevant.>Do the Baratheons even have any KingsbloodI don't think it really matters for the ritual. If you are a king, then you qualify, even if you are an usurper (first of your line). Public perception is the important part.
>>217973823>his claim is rather weakNo it isn’t
>>217973837>his claim is rather weak>No it isn’tYeah like before the rebellion, he was like 6th in line.Not sure how much further away he'd been if it wasn't for Summerhall.
>>217973887Aerys and Steffon were also good friends and he trusted him to find Rhaegar a wife in Essos, probably because Steffon would’ve been second in line behind Rhaegar for a long stretch before Rhaenys and Viserys were born.
whatever happened to Ser Ilyn Payne, the strong silent type
>>217973985He was gay? Ilyn Payne?
>>217974009yeahhis first name was an acronym"i love your nut"
>>217971612rollin'
>>217973819>nooo you don't get it, you can only allow a woman to conceive at 40 as a buzzer beater at the very moment of infertility!
>>217972334I shapposh he’s back on the table.
>>217974067There are lot of years between 14 and 40 anon
make a new thread before I piss meself
>>217973077kek, simps malding
>>217974252>>217974270>>217974270>>217974270
chomo
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>>217970782DUNK SURVIVES? Wtf, Dexter just gave the biggest spoiler in years
>>217973077>>217973213>>217973322And you wonder why your inhumane views aren't more popular.
>>217973444>>217973730If the solution to fertility rates declining is to fuck children maybe we deserve to go extint.
