Bug Catcher Princess EditionPrevious >>218038192
>>218041435people still watch this shit??
>>218041435Halaenamaniacs rise up!
>>218041456does that trigger you, chuddie?
Cute and canon!
>>218041468Alicent and helena are up to something
>We're not so different, you and I
blackfyre drones know your place as the filthy dogs you are
>>218041490Brothel Queens
>>218041523Viserys would be proud of his descendants
>>218041468What a whore showing her ankles like that
i'll repeat it from last thread because i want people to try and change my mindwhat was the value of the flashback other than the "get up" motif (which could've been conveyed in just a few minutes)?the whole teenage love story adventures with genderswapped Rafe was unnecessary and shit. it completely reverses Dunk's origins - the book reason he knows how to manhandle Aerion is because Dunk was a street thug who learned how to brawl at a young age which is likely why Arlan saw the potential in him. Dunk wasn't some timid pussy following a girlboss like the show inventedthe flashback also downgrades Dunk as a character somewhat because now we know he didn't protect Tanselle out of a knightly vow to protect the innocent, he protected her because she looked like a dead girlfriend he was still pining overthe good part of the flashback was showing that Arlan, despite all the back and forth, was still a proper knight who protected the innocent and taught Dunk to always keep going. but that didn't need 20 minutes and it didn't need to happen at the cost of 98% of the Trial happening off-screen
So is Baelors death the tipping point for the Targaryen dynasty where they were beyond salvaging?
>>218041592Baelor the Blessed's? Yep.
>>218040756>that terrible ned vs jaime fightYou take that back.
>>218041592It was always beyond saving.
>>218041592No that was when viserys named rhaenyra heir
Thoughts on Cersei?
Why was Duncan's eye so icky looking
>>218041468Alicent looks to be the same age as her daughter.
>>218041623Queen Cunt
bro they need to cancel hotd and give all its budget to this show, it’s kino on the level of s1-4 got
The bowl of brown was really thick and tasty today
>>218041592No, i think that was the moment Egg decided that Summerhall was a good idea. Since then everything went downhill, there was no turning back. Before Summerhall there was some hope that Targs can stay in power if Egg gives up on his stupid reforms.
>>218041608I agree with that anon. It wasn't terrible but wasn't good either. 1) the choreography of Jaime's actor sucked. Dude is a great character actor but he's very clearly never held a sword or moved with one before filming that scene. 2) It's a show invention, Ned never fought Jaime sword to sword, and even if he did it shouldn't be such a close match.
>>218041564
>>218041592
>>218041592Viserys fucking up his succession is what set them on that path. Baelor was just the better man between him and his brother, and his brother killed him.
>>218041625Olivia Cook b. 1993Phia Saban b. 1998Not that characters'/actors' ages has ever been a strong point for got
>>218041632Watch them give even more budget to that slop now that people praised this one. Condal and Hess need to kill themselves for pushing that turd of a season out.
>>218041607>Sevencucks
>>218041583>he protected her because she looked like a dead girlfriendso you think if she was white he would have let aerion torture her? what a retard
>>218041592The timeline could've still held on, barely, even after Baelor's death. Maekar was a solid king overall, despite personally being miserable for the rest of his life. And Egg's reign was okay until Summerhall, which is where it went to shit.But yeah Baelor could've ensured a stable next 70-100 years for the dynasty.
>>218041490Brothel Queens confirmed
>>218041694>treecuck
>>218041656I need viserys with a model train set and one of those conductor hats.
>>218041621Black propaganda. Viserys names Aegon as his trueborn heir.
>>218041695do you think it is a pure coincidence that Dunk's childhood girlfriend bears a striking resemblance to Tanselle, and that they cast similar looking actresses by accident? maybe if you rubbed your two braincells together you'd realize there's something the showrunners are trying to communicate to you with that casting choice
>>218041631Better Green than fucking rotten!
>>218041722>striking resemblance to Tanselle,Bitch looked closer to young Ned than Tanselle
>>218041468>>218041490I’m unironically fascinated by Alicent and Helaena and don’t understand exactly how special Alicent understands Helaena to be. Also Alicent betrothing her to Aegon whom she pretty much recognized as an asshole and then Helaena having two children. Like what went on there
Sevenchad: IN THE NAME OF THE MOTHER LEAVE THAT BOY BE (chops bad guys head off badassly) Targfag: IN THE CUNT OF MY MOTHER, I WILL FUCK MY SISTER AND KILL MY BROTHER! (Dynasty dies)
>>218041493>We could be a force, you and I. Me, one of the single most powerful noblemen on the continent and you, the tanky hoboWhat the fuck is his angle here?
>>218041656
>>218041435TAOOBA!
>>218041623Needed more doggystyle sex scenes and full frontal nudity.
>>218041657Targ's last real chance.
>>218041722>and that they cast similar looking actressesthey don't look alike at all or act at all similar
>>218041583You can tell the flashback sucked by looking at all of social media. Everyone discussing the episode is only talking about the melee or about Baelor. On reddit and tiktok I have honest to god not seen a single post giving a damn about the scenes from the flashback before Arlen shows up. Nobody considers it interesting or worth mentioning.
>>218041741The kids are Aemond's.
>>218041722>striking resemblance to Tanselle??
>>218041741A king has needs
Show only watcher heree (no book spoilers) - do you think Dunk and Egg will end up 'Weekend At Bernies'-ing Baelor to prevent a succession crisis? NO SPOILERS
>>218041752>White women when they say they're a total freak in bed
>>218041752Why was Viserys doing this, at this point? He has enough kids at this point. He knows at this point that his marriage to Alicent only happened because of Otto's manipulation. He knows she does not want to share his bed. And yet he just ordering her into his bed and keeps knocking her up. Does he just want sex and doesn't give a shit? Vissy T reminds me of Aegon IV the more I think about him.
Rank them
>>218041770>social mediaIdiots like you then.
>>218041623She has the best book chaptersFeel like Lena Headey was miscast
>>218041714>Drownedcuck
>>218041779Emilia Clarke put on weight during the course of series, not to mention had legitimate health issues, but she really did come back in S8 proper.
>>218041805Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>218041805>Maelor
>>218041816If anything about the stuff with Rafe was interesting or likeable, at least someone on this god's green earth would make social media posts about it. Nobody did, nobody gives a shit about that character or these scenes, and once the hypeglasses fall off people will admit it was nonsense. Same thing happened with Rhaenys in HOTD, at first people cheered and clapped at this character but once the dust settled even the slowbrains admitted she was a dogshit character. This will take time too.
>>218041583>>218041722the only connection between Tanselle and Rafe is that Duncan witnessed two girls being harmed by men and wanted to protect them both, but he obvioulsy failed with one, and after seeing Arlan do for him what he couldn't do for one led him to living a life where he wouldn't fail again, i think you actually just hate the flashback cause she's brown
>>218041523wtf, is that real?
>>218041844>he doesn't know about Maelor
>>218041839Why don't you fyre in seven hells blackcuck
>>218041805Only Aegon the OG and Jaehaerys were goated. The rest were all thin-blooded failures and cucks.
>>218041752Targs can't fuck?
>>218041583We agree on the get up motif. We also agree it was important to actually demonstrate that Ser Arlan cared about the innocent and was a proper knight. I don’t care about the gender swap, because I didn’t know the original gender. The love story was fake and gay. However, Rafe’s behavior (thief, antagonistic, no empathy or mercy) juxtaposes Dunks good nature. They both come from Flea Bottom and are orphans, but Dunk doesn’t let that influence his understanding of right and wrong. Also, you’re a fool if you think Dunk wouldn’t have intervened on anyone’s behalf. It was particularly emotionally poignant because of their physical similarities, but Dunks inability to protect the innocent previously is his main motivating factor in his intervention. It was too long, but it’s likely due to budget constraints. There wasn’t any money to extend the trial, which is already extended from the book. I have greater qualms with its placement than its content. The entire love story could have padded an earlier episode, and pushed part of episode 4 into episode 5. Then only the Ser Arlan segment would have been in episode 5.
penny tree is very close to Stonehenge, could Arlan of pennytree have had bracken blood? He’s very horse coded, from his knowledge of dothraki, the love of his horses to the size of his cock, it evokes the bracken sigil
>>218041805Aenys was a massive faggotAegon III as well
>>218041848Imagine seething over dunk having a past.
>>218041869This post smells Dornish.
I think Rafe and Dunk lacked chemistry. I didnt buy the love bit at all. I honestly thought she was going to take the coin and ditch Dunk.I liked the abruptness of the throat cutting. And Arlan saved the whole thing of course.
>>218041836Yeah i don’t understand how you can have an injury like hers and not get massive like you literally lay in bed for a month
>>218041857In my heart it is.
>>218041805Wasn't Viserys II only king for like a year?Also what's Daeron's deal?
>>218041592no, they were already cooked at this point and lasted as long as they did due to luck>>218041649>i think that was the moment Egg decided that Summerhall was a goodhe only did Summerhall because he was desperate and knew the Targs were fucked in the near future if they didn't have dragons. Summerhall accelerated things but the reality is that if the North, Vale, Iron Islands, or Dorne decided to just declare independence the Iron Throne was too weak to do anything
>>218041850>>218041874wow look, two people who graduated their media literacy classes
>>218041697Was Egg being a retard with Summerhall, like Aerion drinking wildfyre? Or was it just bad luck it all went to shit?
>>218041910Who's winning
>>218041896Dunk does have a past. I read the novella The Hedge Knight, and nothing about it talked about Dunk having a teenage gf who bossed him around Flea Bottom.
>>218041583It was just padding because there's no other way make 6 episodes out of a novella.
>>218041583>what was the value of the flashbackDunk constantly questions himself for "not knowing his place", only for this insight into his childhood raffirm that this is where he was always gonna be, he was never gonna stand by and let the innocent die again even at the cost of his own life, he has always dealt with the unfairness of life and feudal society his whole life, it's what fuels him, it's what keeps him going, keeps him walking (after arlan through sickness and fatigue and pain), keeps him getting back up, and aspire to be something better than this world deserves, Arlan means the world to him because he is the knight who remembers his vow, and if following in his footsteps led him into this predicament then so be it.my only problem with the flashback is it's placement
>>218041908She looked fine here. You’re just gay.
>>218041957I didn’t say that calm down
>>218041649I think he could have still made it with the reforms in the long run if he had switched gears from unreliable blood magic fantasies and instead made a large trained professional army the allowed him to outmatch the older levy forces of the lords>Inb4 that was Joffrey's dumb ideaIt was a good idea actually. Possibly the only one he ever had.
>>218041947>Seething hysterically about dunks past and how it shaped his beliefs and personality.>I want to see more action!Reddit awaits pleb
this episode was better than anything after Hardhome in GOT and better than all of HOTD S2that being said:>Dunk's injuries stretched the suspension of disbelief a bit too much>the lack of budget was obvious during the big fight, i guarantee you the flashback would not take so damn long if they had the budget to properly film more fighting>the flashback was very obviously not George's writing (you know the scene is show-original and low tier when a character starts saying "fuck" every sentence)>no scene of Raymun painting over his apple into green color (i kinda get why, the show wanted to speed things up)and as someone said, the stuff with Rafe should not have been in this episode. i think it should've been in episode 3 before Dunk saves Tanselle, that would've been good timing. but in this episode, only the bits with Arlan should've been here
HE COMES
>>218041939We don't know exactly how Summerhall went down. Might have just been a kitchen fire that got out of hand.
>>218041746Sevenchad: I will take ser Duncan’s side! Valyriafag: you woke the dragon! The dragon ought never lose!
>>218041972>Possibly the only one he ever had.As well as suggesting maybe they do something about Dany and Tywin effectively telling him to shut up.
>>218041761Gods she was lusty then.
>>218041982The daughter killer?
Since we now know Ser Arlan fought at Redgrass when we have the bevy of Season 2 flashbacks it'll be from when Ser Arlan told Dunk about it.
>>218041974>nooooo you have to LIKE the poor brown quirk chungus gurlboss who rebels against the white male authority figure!>why? Because... WELL YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY!www.reddit.com
>>218041974>Seething hysterically about dunks pastBut I'm not seething about it, I just told you about Dunk's past. Here it is:>Better a beggar than a thief. He had been both in Flea Bottom, when he ran with Ferret, Rafe, and Pudding, but the old man had saved him from that life.>Ferret, Rafe, and Pudding. Little monsters, those three, and me the worst of all.That's from the novellas. That's Dunk's past. Dunk was the worst of them. The show's take on Dunk's past is in complete clash with the source material. So when we're talking about "Dunk's past" you're talking about fanfic nonsense by referring to the show, while I am talking about the truth. Now fuck off you tourist nigger retard.
>>218041761Missionary is superior to doggy
>>218041493Seems unrealistic that Dunk says no to this. I can understand why he says no to the Targs, but Baratheon has been nothing but a bro so far.
>>218041982
>>218042025The rightful heir to the iron throne you heathen
>>218041746>runs through random door>attacks nearest personIN THE NAME OF THE MOTHER I AM EXTREMELY DRUNK
>>218041805Viserys took away their strongest asset with his bullshit but Aegon IV is what really fucked them over.
>>218041805baelor the based>everyone else
>>218041981>>no scene of Raymun painting over his apple into green color (i kinda get why, the show wanted to speed things up)>and who are you? my prick cousin said >that I must bow so low? >only a fruit of a different type >that's all the truth I know >in coat of red or coat of green >an apple still has bite >and mine are sweet and crisp my lord>as sweet and crisp as yours
>>218042025inb4 angry stannis fans insisting that won't happen in the books (not because George changed his mind or because Stannis isn't even with Shireen, but because Winds will never be published)
>>218042047show Lyonel is turbo gay. Dunk isn't, so he's a bit weirded out by the guy
>>218041981>no scene of Raymun painting over his apple into green colorWhen was he supposed to do that?>get knighted>Dunk looks for another knight>Baelor arrives>fight starts
>only six episodes
>>218041523Ai is so fake and gay
>>218042020Based jamie
>>218042068>When was he supposed to do that?in the novella he did that, because the fight did not immediately start and there wasn't such a rush. but in the show they wanted to speed it up to give a sense of rush
>>218042049>Needed to sacrifice his daughter to clear some snowReal Stannis would never I do not care for the bastardized version D&D made because they were upset he killed their favorite fag king Renly.
>>218041981>>Dunk's injuries stretched the suspension of disbelief a bit too muchi rewatched the fight and his injuries actually aren't that extreme, his two worse injusries happened at the start, the lance splinter, and maekar hitting him in the head, his next injuries are two small penetrations to his hupper leg (mail stopped everything but the tip so not fatal at all), his hand being stabbed, stabbed in the back (mail stopped most of it), more hits to the shoulder from a mace, stabbed on his outer thigh (sword was thrown, deep past the mail but not fatal)a man could survive this, what's crazy is that he gets back up and keeps fighting but he passed out twice in the fight so.. i think it was realistic or at least believable. It did feel like Rocky but with knights after awhile but that is Dunk.
>>218041623So impressively retarded, you'd think she's a Targaryen.
>>218041805You can't name a single thing Maelor actually did wrong without sounding like a pussy moralfag
>>218042083an oldie but a goodie
>>218042028The season two flashbacks will actually just be brief unconnected scenes of Dunk standing in awe and horror as Arlan fucks prostitutes with his terrifying manhood before cutting back to the current scene as if nothing happened.
>>218042091>his two worse injusries happened at the starti haven't slept yet my bad
>>218042117there will be a joke about Ser Arlan being a bastard of House Manwoody
>>218041805Tell me about Jaehaerys II, what the fuck happened during his reign?
>>218042060Needs of the realm come first.
>>218042152Ninepenny kings and Blackfyres getting btfo for the last time.
>>218041435agggh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TqzulMw4d0&list=RD9TqzulMw4d0&start_radio=1>get up
>>218042152still can't tell is Jaeherys II canon in the show or not? I know they dropped him in an Aemon line but I heard it set off George's autism so it might be canon now.
>>218042174>last time>he doesn't know
>>218042104>bro just be so needlessly cruel that the entirety of westeros and most of your dragon riders rise up against youMaegor is the reason nobody fully trusts Targs going forward.
>>218041917Cocky fag that tried and failed to conquer Dorne. Daeron II actually did.
>>218042174>for the last time.
>>218042117>terrifying manhoodIt's average unless you're a coping dicklet
>>218042152The final Blackfyre chimpout followed by the king keeling over from asthma (Bloodraven warged into the chambermaids to ensure Jae's room wasn't properly dusted)
>>218041972>a large trained professional army the allowed him to outmatch the older levy forces of the lordshow do you pay for it? There's a reason nobody in this era had standing armies, you might as well say Egg should just invent an AR-15 because it's about as realistic
>no no bro the fog obscuring everything and the 20 min flashback were creative storytelling decisions, definitely not because they lacked the budget to actually make the episode about the Trial it's supposed to depict
>>218042192the ost peaked here though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqYs2E-fW8
>>218042207>failed to conquer Dorne>Daeron II actually did.PFFFTTTTTTTTTTT
>>218042242You got more fighting in the show than what the trial in the books looks like.
>>218042104Maegor lost the war against his kid nephew and then killed himself. Also he can’t breed
>>218042207>Daeron II actually did.if by conquer Dorne you mean roll out the red carpet and bend over for them then yeah, Daeron II is a great conqueror
>>218042242Looks like a reindeer lawn ornament
>>218042243this is just a ripoff of a more famous classical bit.
>>218042267maegor didn't kill himself
>>218042204>>218042210>Needs to pretend to be one they fought against in the past to even stand a chance
>>218041746>sevenfag: because these guys fly dragons, we now actually support incest and created this bullshit excuse to justify itnice "religion" bozo, your "gods" rules can be changed by the pope any time his life is threatened or he gets bribed. Meanwhile Old Gods followers basically have the 10 commandments to follow and nothing else, and fight to the death when those rules are violated
>And here on my side I'm happy to have Apple Fossoway
>>218042255more fighting, less actual payoff. not that the book is perfect but at least its succinct.
>>218042204>implying aegon isn't victorious
>>218042242>>no no bro the fog obscuring everything and the 20 min flashback were creative storytelling decisions, definitely not because they lacked the budget to actually make the episode about the Trial it's supposed to depictis anyone saying that? the choice to focus on Dunk's pov and the fog and giving us a flashback were obvioulsy there because of hbo not giving them them a budget, people just don't have the same issue with the content like you do
>>218041770The only good part was when the lady gets killed because we no longer have to suffer the actress lmao
>>218042297dorkmaxxing
based or cringe?
>>218042298>less actual payoff.What kind of cope is this?
I can't watch HOTD because there're just too many niggers
>>218042291Blackfyres are Targs
>"Alright, now have the group of naked Dornishmen enter my sister/GFs bed chamber."Was that really necessary? I feel like it didn't fit with the tone or pacing of the show.
>>218042205maegor is the only reason the Targ dynasty didn't end, and he terrified people so much that they endured every terrible Targ ruler after him because at least they didn't kill as many people as Maegor. He's the MVP of the dynasty, set the bar so low even retards could clear it
>>218041839what would his tax policy have been?
>>218042279name the original
>>218042297Get a load of this apple
>>218042337kek
>>218042316Accepptable. It's not like I have a better idea
>>218041752God I wish I had a dutiful wife like that.
>>218042316s'cool
>>218042057>Surely this vipers won't bite me>ACK
>>218042342Probably would have fucked up the country with overpriced tourneys like Robert
>>218042340>maegor is the only reason the Targ dynasty didn't endBut it did, indeed, end
>>218042342men with a 6-pack like him pay 0% tax rate
>>218042342taxation is theft
>>218042152The most significant thing he did was before he became king; he forced his son and daughter to get married despite them not wanting to, and himself marrying for love against Egg's wishes. So he was a douche. He did it because he believed a prophesy. His son was the Mad King
>>218042229Bloodraven warged into Bittersteel each time he was fucking Daemon's daughter to force him to pull out dooming his line forever.
>>218041770And the only reason why 4chinns talks about the flashback is racism. Beyond that no one cares. I guess we liked Arlan slaughtering some pigs though.
>>218042297Kingdom Hearts lookin mfer
>>218042342no taxes if you fight in the royal army (no more relying on the other houses)
>>218042020Her acting is so sexo. Shame we were denied slutty AFFC Cersei in season 5.
>>218042379MY KING
>>218041917Viserys II was hand of the king for his brother and his two nephews, and he basically did a lot of the ruling for them
>>218042076yeet
>>218042370it would have ended 200 years earlier without him. Only thing he could have done better was strengthening the North as another threat against the Faith to distract them. Divide and conquer, but all the Targs were too retarded to think of that
>>218042412>just give the military more moneyalways works out well in the end. godspeed.
>>218042379based
>>218042379
>>218042310>is anyone saying that?read the last thread and go read reddit
>>218041839>supposedly rebels because he loved his sister who married to a dornishman>has like 20 fucking children with his essosi wifeI don't buy it
>>218042267Will we ever get the kino red, black and silver combination on-screen?
>>218042456You have a wierd hate boner for the faith of the seven. They’re the good guys dude
>>218042474the last thread were people arguing on whether or not they did a good job tieing the flashback into the story, not whether or not it was done because they didn't have the budget to do 3 minutes of battling
>>218041805Aegon III is the most underrated, the Targ shits should have fallen apart but he somehow kept it together
>>218042370Like 200 years after he died. Meanwhile Bobby's "dynasty" didn't even outlast him.
>>218042476>has like 20 fucking childrenhe liked fighting and sex, but loved Daenerys
>>218042379He was the better man
>>218042476he’s an enigma, even George doesn’t know what he wants to do with Daemon B
>>218042412>targs incapable of actual governance>have to resort to violence, if they don't have dragons they must have a royal army to enforce their willat least the targshit lovers are admitting they just want the Targs to recreate the Valyrian slave empire. Too bad the Faceless Men would just -ACK them again if they tried. Everybody looks to blame the maesters for the dragons dying off, meanwhile it's literally a plot line in the books about how easy it was for the Faceless Men to infiltrate the Citadel
>>218042510At least House Baratheon isn’t an extinct house like house Targaryen
>>218042500>3 minutes of battling30* minutes
>>218041805what the fuck was aegon iv's problem
>>218042192Lmao that armor is fucking embarrassing.
>>218042507>lets the dragons die
>>218042545Nothing. He was based.
>>218042533Well, they ARE alien invaders.
>>218042415Cersei in general has been watered down ever since season 2 and carried only by Heady's acting. They gave her worst actions to Joffrey and then didn't even have the balls to portray her descent into paranoia and madness. Now HBO is doing the same with Rhaenyra.
>>218042561Based dragonbane
>>218042533>have to resort to violenceLike every fucking regime that has ever existed in Westeros?
>>218042316Was that a boy or a woman? I could not tell.
>>218042510Bobby B never wanted a dynasty, so it's not a loss for him. He just wanted to protect Westeros from targshits and we know now he was 100% in the right to order Dany to be killed. Robert was never wrong about a single thing, despite being a drunken whoremonger>knew marrying Cersei was a bad idea>knew he'd be a shit king>knew the targshits should be killedI would love to see a version of the story where Bobby B just follows his own instincts on everything, would probably be a golden age for Westeros
>>218042541Neither of them are extinct, both Stannis and Dany claim the Iron Throne for their respective Houses
the amount of blackfyre posting since this show started is concerning
>>218042561not his fault though, he tried to bring them back. he just personally didn't like them
Does anyone know what any of Aegon V’s reforms actually were?
>>218042533>nooo you can't have an actual functioning army>noo you can't free people from taxes in exchange for serving the real>that's SLAVERY
>>218041583One of the ways that more skillful showrunners and writers get around the DEI bullshit is to contain it in a way where it doesn't contaminate the primary thread of the show. An extreme would be if you had a show like GOT and to avoid all of the DEI taint that would ruin your show, you just created a place codenamed "DEI Island." On DEI Island you have tons of homosexuals, pedophiles, transgenders, primordial looking black people, midgets, balding women, white women in their 40s, and other assorted undesirables and freaks of nature. Now, every so often you have to check in DEI Island, but what happens on DEI Island has little to no impact on what happens in Westeros. Maybe occasionally a person from DEI Island arrives in King's Landing, does something inconsequential, maybe even just dies, and then they leave. This keeps the Marxists and Moloch worshipers that you are surrounded by happy. After all, there's a whole island of DEI types! This also allows easy fan edits to just exclude all the aspects of the show that take place on DEI Island or involve it, so it's a way of almost encrypting your show to be viewable despite the globohomo mafia in control of everything that regularly needs their ring kissed. In the case of KOTSK, they just crammed it into a flashback. Compare this with the disasters that Netflix churns out. You can really see who is a true member of the DEI crowd and who just entertains it as a necessary evil.You'll see a lot more of this in the future.
>>218042545He was /ourguy/
>>218041805Good King Robert is the only ruler i’d ever want to have
>>218042614Dany is infertile
>>218042625socialism
>>218042630sounds like you're describing Dany's Essoss plotline
>>218042592Starks haven't faced a rebellion in over 1000 years prior to the books, only violence needed was when dealing with wildlings and Ironborn invaders. The North is larger than the other 6 kingdoms combined and ran itself, yet the Targs couldn't even manage to keep the other 6 in line. They should have had all their heirs fostered in Winterfell to learn how to rule
>>218042613How does it all play out it if Ned’s sister doesn’t get kidnapped? Or did she go with the targshit of her own volition?
>>218042625more taxes on anyone who can't be classified as peasant
>>218042476Tyroshi aren't known for being backstabbing, treaty-breaking, torturing shits that spent last 100 years in constant skimrishes with Reachmen.
>>218042231Taxes, loans from the Free cities that could be paid off after the lords are beaten into submission, and selling Shiera Seastar feet paintingsThe Hungarians were able to make it work unless you mean to tell me that the Targaryen dynasty with the entire continent swearing fealty has less income than Matthias Corvinus did
>>218042571Ironically her best episodes were Blackwater and the Purple Wedding both written by gurm where she is just filled with seethe and hate
>>218042379BEESBURY is loyal to the black dragon
>>218042545Too much time shitposting to give a fuck
>>218042641Based
>>218042630>white women in their 40sYou give 'em to me.
>OYSTAS CLAMS AND KEKOLDS!
>>218042680she could have sent a raven at anytime to prevent war, if lyanna wasn’t kidnapped then she’s a peice of shit for letting her family think she was
>>218042561Wasn't there only about four left by the end of the dance?
>>218042617Blackfyre posting is GoT staple, /lit/ thread often had it in it.
>>218041926>he only did Summerhall because he was desperate and knew the Targs were fucked in the near future if they didn't have dragons.The targs were able to keep going for more than 100 years without dragons, they could easily keep going for another 100.The actual issue is that Egg was frustrated that he could never pass his reforms for the smallfolk without his kids playing along with the marriages he arranged for them, but with dragons he wouldn't need the great houses opinion on things, his desperation was about his powerleness to uplift the smallfolk's lives>but the reality is that if the North, Vale, Iron Islands, or Dorne decided to just declare independence the Iron Throne was too weak to do anythingEh if they actually wanted to declare independence summerhall was the perfect pretext as the targs were at their weakest yet, it took the targs being ousted by Robert and the wholeWar of the Five Kings for the whole independence thing to actually come into full swing with 3 different kingdoms, so I don't think there was every a threat of either rebellion or independence without Aerys escalating things into a full scale war
>>218042759i would have done eveything in my power to keep those dragons going
>bitter'st eelkinda goofy name
I believe the Beesbury family should rule. Their built in monarchy genes would be the best for the hive- I mean, for Westeros's future.
>>218042673>Targs couldn't even manage to keep the other 6 in line.Because, unlike the North, they were never meant to be a single political entity. The Seven Kingdoms is a Targaryen invention, without them it loses any reason to be.
>>218042617we are in the dunk an egg era, also green vs black posting is kind of meh rn and iu don't think it's coming back
>>218042680All we know is she didn't want Robert and Ned knew she'd hate being with him.If she went willingly though she's a cunt for not saying anything.
>>218042701>relied on constant conquest to keep them paid>army was ended after a few decades due to constant mutiniesgood luck getting the lords to pay more taxes to fund an army that will be used to oppress them. Unless they are going to invade Essos for plunder, the Targs have no way to finance it
>>218042672To some extent, but it was probably not intentional quarantining in that case. It's a better strategy though than HOTD where they took an entire house and flipped them black. Turning Essos basically into Africa allowed them to work with Westeros in an uncontaminated way, but they still fucked it up anyway ultimately.
>>218042701Then you go broke bribing the army not to oust you and install someone that will bribe them more
>>218042617Bring your blackfyre posts here
Did Lyonel give Raymun some medieval cocaine when he knighted him?How did he go from ripe apple getting whooped in sparring sessions to the Dunkbowl MVP?
>BrackenCHAD dabbing on gaylord hedge knight
>>218042673>Starks haven't faced a rebellion in over 1000 years prior to the booksmary use house
>>218042801>didn’t want RobertWhy not? He was strong then
>>218042796if the Targs were good rulers they would have worked towards unifying them over the course of 300 years. Instead they relied on violence via dragons and armies. Starks in comparison were big brained and by providing for the smallfolk that come to winter town for shelter from across the entire North during winter, they earn the loyalty of their vassals own men. End result is stable rule because their bannermen can't even rely on their smallfolk to turn against the Starks
>Don't fucking scream at me you dumbfuck you>look at you with your stupid crown, fucking 48% body fat>and you, you scrawny albino one eyed bastard>fuck you guys
>>218042827Targhate fuelled him
>>218042720Aye, and the rest of her screentime she's in this weird zone where she's mean to Tyrion and Jaime occasionally and the characters refer to her as a scheming vengeful bitch but the show presents her in almost positive light. Remember that scene where she straight up admits the incest to Tywin's face unprompted and it's written and directed as this badass empowering moment?
>>218042805I hope you agree that Salador Saan was based at least.
damn now i know where Robert got his blunt force weapons genetics from, Maekar does not fuck around
>MY BOY
>>218042617Only swordlets should be concerned.
>>218042884She was a blue haired libtard. He was too alpha for her. Rhegar was some looksmaxing twink. Probably gay.
>>218042625I don't think so. Gurrm has not given a single thought about the laws, judicial systems and government structures of Westeros beyond crass stuff like the right of the first night and trials by combat. He is unwilling and even unable to think about things like tax policy, ironically enough.Bret Deveraux has given Gurrm a severe academic beatdown on his dothraki subsistence for example.>GRRM: I am not looking for academic tomes about changing patterns of land use, but anecdotal history rich in details of battles, betrayals, love affairs, murders, and similar juicy stuff.>Devereaux: That’s an odd position for an author who critiquesotherauthors for being insufficiently clear about their characters’ tax policy (what does he think they are taxing, other than agricultural land use?)https://acoup.blog/2020/12/11/collections-that-dothraki-horde-part-ii-subsistence-on-the-hoof/There was also an interview a long time ago that Grrm did with a law history youtuber. It became very aparent in that one that Grrm has not given any deeper thought to the justicial system of Westeros. (And afterwards he wrote on his notablog that he was now inspired to write a story about a westerosi lawyer lmao). I can try to find it again.
>>218042908
>>218041857It's real. They've shared other similar pictures with the cast. One of the actors takes his chess board to pass time between takes.
>No man fights as fiercely as one neglected by his mother.
>>218042946damn he ate all those guys?
>>218041952They could have done the same adding Dunk's three actual friends who were likely three boys trying to survive.
>>218042769>his desperation was about his powerleness to uplift the smallfolk's liveskek, "smallfolk rights" was a LARP used as an excuse for him to increase royal authority and the lords saw through his bullshit. If he cared about the smallfolk he wouldn't have let King's Landing remain a fucking shithole
>>218042946Its very apparent that anons thinks westeros is way more advanced than it is. Its around 1100s tier in social development. Not 1500s.
>>218041592When the Targaryens lost their dragons, it was over. It'd be like going into Somalia or the Middle East and thinking you can bring peace and stability to the region with hand to hand combat or just outright pacifism. War and destruction is the natural desired state of the region. Westeros is, from a plot standpoint, a doomed continent. Everyone fights and kills each other endlessly (look at how things were in the pre-Conquest era) while the Others/White Walkers build their power base north of the wall. Uniting everyone via dragons in this case gave the people unknowingly the best chance they had against the looming threat, but their nature was still to desire chaos and destruction, always seeking to shatter the unity. Without Aegon's conquest, inevitably the Others would have found a way through the wall, swept south, and killed every single person on the continent. Dragons, ultimate force, is the only thing that keeps the savages of Westeros in check. As soon as the Targaryens lost them, there was nothing they were going to be able to do to keep people from rebelling, seceding, etc. There was always going to be another Blackfyre or scorned Baratheon or Defiance of Duskendale and there was always going to be factions popping up who were angry at the way the crown handled those insurrections. Westeros is doomed and the error the Targaryens made, Dany included if we use the show, is putting such a high premium on ruling the shithole that absolutely doesn't want to be ruled. Inevitably Westeros is a country that whether it's dragons or magical necromantic elf creatures from the North, the only way it will adhere to order is through centralized overwhelming force. This is the setting.
>>218042884Didn't want to be some blushing wife who sits back as their husband fucks whores or some shit, because she was le heckin tomboy
>>218043012All will rejoice in his death
>>218042035As I see it, the text implies Arlan didn't just save him from poverty, but rather from the life of being a common criminal who could have become a dangerous thief and end up dead at 16. That's the "I was the worse" part. Arlan saw that potential and knew it could be used for good. The flashback removes this.
>>218042673>Starks haven't faced a rebellion in over 1000 yearsWeren't Boltons stirring up shit?
>>218042946>imperial dietOf course gurm didn't know about it>>218042983kek
Yield
>>218042972Justice for our Golden Dragon, the One True King of Westeros, Aegon II Targaryen "The Dragoncock"!
watching HOTD and i feel like there is zero continuity between young Rhaenyra and adult Rhaenyranot only do the actresses look completely different (yes they do) and express themselves completely differently, but the character is completely different tooyoung Rhaenyra was terrified of childbirth because of what happened to her mother and then in the timeskip she has kids and doesn't give a fuck and there's zero emphasis on how she dealt with this
>>218042902He was a well done black character following an even more conservative model than probably necessary of Lando Calrissian.
>>218042972She literally stands between him and Hillary Clinton’s dragon though
>>218043012I'm going by how usually grrm tries to portray his characters, so far egg is supposed to be the stand-up kind of guy who was trying to do his best for the little man
>>218042342Sharia. 2% wealth tax!
>>218042630>Black people existing is literally satanicAnd you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
>>218043065I find myself thinking of more recent developments, such as Alicent serving Aegon's head on a platter to Rhaenyra.
>>218042884she was a 14 year old retard who was mad at being betrothed and never gave him an actual chance
>No Myrish swamp or show-original scenes of Cersei getting railed by Valyrian-looking twinkI'm still mad.
>>218043051
>>218042891The Starks have been Kings of the North for thousands of year, they're so fucking ancient we don't know how they even got a hold of the region in the first place. The Targaryens on the other hand are outsiders whose only right to rule over the people and Lords of Westeros is the right of conquest, so of course they need military might to impose their will, as every conqueror dynasty has needed it for thousands of years of human history.Besides their political ambitions are completely different, since I assure you that any other Kingdom would fight the Starks if they tried to rule over them, because why the fuck would a stormlander or a westerman obey fucking northmen?
>>218041583>what was the value of the flashback other than the "get up" motif (which could've been conveyed in just a few minutes)?To drag out the runtime of the episode so HBO could milk a 6th episode.
>>218043023>Without Aegon's conquest, inevitably the Others would have found a way through the wall, swept south, and killed every single person on the continentthe Starks defeated the Others the first time with no dragons and the Wall didn't even exist. Targs main character syndrome fucked everything up and created a self-fulfilling prophecy that weakened Westeros for the White Walkers to invade
>>218041435HBO is the best
>>218043039no, their last attempt was over 1000 yeas ago and even that wasn't a real rebellion against the Starks. They teamed up with a Stark cadet branch to try and take Winterfell, so even the Boltons were just trying to replace Starks with other Starks because their hold was so strong
>>218042884I suppose it's true that some women prefer dreamy twinks over gigachad BVLLS
>>218042946 (me)Ok, I Found that interview about laws again, it was in 2007:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qhH-QNcATgAnd here's Grrm's blog about it:>I enjoyed the interview with Dave, and found that all these discussions gave me a lot of food for thought. Maybe once I finish A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE, I will do a legal thriller set in the Seven Kingdoms next. John Grisham meets J.R.R. Tolkien, as they'd say in Hollywood.Hmm, I wonder when he'll write that westeros legal thriller lmao.
>>218043187>once I finishAND WHO ARE YOU, THE PROUD AUTHOR SAID, THAT I MUST FINISH MY BOOKS
>>218041974>plebThere are two methods of story telling you plebbit accusing niggerOne is difect, into the action, no explaination necessaryThe other is a refined sequence of eventsFlashbacks are ALWAYS a weak burden on the lack of creative expression and are the modicum of cope with regards to originality of any given narrativeIts much better to fast forward and end it there than constantly be drug back and forth between the irrelevant chapters of the past to try and eggsplain something presentlyIf you didnt get the job done beforehand, its weak as fuck and improper construction of character development to cope with endless waves of flashbacksFlashbacks serve a purpose in the moment of brevity, nothing more and nothing lessAnd moreoften than not its for a feminine mind/audience/reader, because theyre such pathetic sources of engagementMoreover they always suck ass if theyre longer than a few seconds or the retarded lowest common denominator tldr of what happened in the prior movie film- because youre that retard who decided to skip the background and most people cant chew gum and walk
>>218042476Daemon having like 10+ kids with his wife before he turned 25 was wild.
i just finished episode 5, i have some tears in my eyesrest in peace baelor, you will be missedso many likeable characters in this show, i got too used to the slice of life that the drama hits so much harder now
>>218043136>since I assure you that any other Kingdom would fight the Starks if they tried to rule over them, because why the fuck would a stormlander or a westerman obey fucking northmenthe Riverlands all but begged for good, strong, honorable Stark leadership and kneeled instantly to Robb. If Targs hadn't shown up, the Starks probably would have kicked the Hoares asses and liberated the Riverlands. Vale would also be easy, support the mountain clans there and replace the Arryns with the Royces
>>218043258I don't think Royces and mountain clans would fight on the same side.
Sober Daeron
>>218041981>shouldve been in episode 3If anyone in this clusterfuck had any pacing in mind, the first primer episode wouldve been dunks bavkground in fleabottom; the climax to his adoption as a squire on the roadThe second episode wouldve been the progression into manhood, his mentor's death, instead of SHIDDING FARDING AND PEEPEE POOPOO; straight to finding egg and landing a tourney aspirationThird episode the bargaining of enlistment into the tourney with various lords and knightsFourth episode , the one and only flashback, painted shield, puppetshow princess getting btfo by a cuntboy And then fifth episode; an entire 30 minute meleeBlam, i just saved you dumb cunts 5 million in budget by prioritizing a proper sequence of events; instead of stupid fucking toilet humor and endless fucking flashbacks; which are again, feminine and pointless if you constructed a proper narrativeAlso the child actress getting killed was the best because that ended anymore screen time with her dumbass- wholly irrelevant and detracts from the storyOnly redeeming part was BY THE MUDDA LEAVE THAT BOY ALONE can of whoopass lmfao
>>218043187>book entirely consisting of Ned settling disputes about some peasant seething about his neighbor letting his goats graze on his lands, Greatjon arguing to bring back the First Night, and discussing the trade impact of tariffs with Wyman Manderlyholy fucking kino
i find it hard to gauge character ages, i'm a showfag and thought Maekar was the older brother who was passed overturns out he's by far the youngest brother?
Bros, it kind of sucks that Dunk and Egg doesn't have a recurring castI'm gonna miss Raymun
>Maekar did all that with a maceImagine if he had a hammer
>>218043301>playes dead>still got fucked uplol
>>218041749In a society where you can decide things by single combat, it's useful to have a guy who's 7 feet tall and built like a linebacker. It's like Tywin having the Mountain, except Dunk isn't a sadistic serial rapist.(Yes, I know the actor is only 6'5" irl)
>>218043136>>218043023I'm not sure I agree. We can see for a fact that the Targaryen dynasty continued to rule for a century after they lost their dragons. And the new Baratheon king after them also ruled over a united realm. After Robert's death a series of succesion and civil wars breaks out, but most of the belligerents want to keep the realm intact and just replace who's on top. The idea of westerosi unity and central kingship seem to have become deeply ingrained in westeros culture. Remember that there are also other unified, centralized institutions like the Maesters and the Church of the Seven.
I am your man. Please. Your man.
>>218042386lmao
>>218041981The injuries shouldn't stretch disbelief too much. They were fatal. Dunk was dead. He collapsed, his eyes were open, he stopped breathing. Egg then through force of will and unintentional R'hllor magic brought Dunk back from the dead.
>>218043380my man
If the North is so tough why did Ned bring such a troop of jobbers to Kings Landing with him
>>218043258You're proving my point, during the War of The Five Kings the Riverlands supported the North, which out of the Seven Kingdoms it is the one with which they share most ethnic, cultural and historical ties, besides the fact that their Houses were bonded by family at that moment. Without a centralizing force exerted by an external agent, the Seven Houses would end up returning to their regional, independent rules.
>>218043380a bit peeved they cut out Baelor saying "my man" they probably thought it was too anachronistic
>>218043402The maesters use white Monster, not Redbull.Redbull would give him a tummy ache.
>>218043380As an unemployed guy who's having trouble finding a new job, this line hit me hard, even more that Baelor dying.
>Baelor's last words were bragging about how strong his little brother is
I kill Targaryen fucking shits for she.
>>218043492He said it in a sour way. He lost, his brother, the kinslayer Maekar, always had it out for him. He murdered him.
>>218043439I think the "I need good men, The realm..." gets across that he was scrambled brain-ly accepting or at least responding positively well enough. "My man" probably would feel a little too modern and risk pulling someone out of that moment.
>>218043492>broter
>>218043464kek
>>218043509
>>218043492he was a strong? Maekar?
>>218043533I pulled it off twitter, idk if the artist is ESL or what
>>218043492did baelor have white streaks in his youth? or are they just drawing him more like valarr/interpreting the salt&pepper not as age but speckled with targ silver?
>>218043533He got hurt in the head, please understand
>>218043565i want a looping .gif of her eyeing up Dunk in the first second
>>218043492he loved his baby bro
>>218043586seconding this
>>218043378>The idea of westerosi unity and central kingship seem to have become deeply ingrained in westeros cultureYes, but no House has the legitimacy or consensus to rule over the others in a truly centralized manner. So the two possible outcomes are:1)Westeros becomes and elective monarchy,were the King isn't really powerful enough to boss around the other Lords2)They accept Aegon Blackfyre as their rightful ruler so he can bring peace and prosperity to the realm.
>>218043237Thats a lot of cope I didnt read to justify your stupidity.
>>218043565>You're big and stupidMight be the smartest character from the Reach we've seen on screen
>>218041804This is pure speculation but I think he made 4 more kids to protect Rhaenyra from Daemonif Rhaenyra had no siblings and happened to "die" before making any kids the throne would immediately pass over to Daemon. And Daemon is a shady enough bastard to kill her for this.It's harder ot get the throne if there are 5 other people ahead of you though In the end that plan backfired and the war broke out between Rhaenyra and Aegon instead, so he's still a giant retard
>>218041805Jaehaerys I Maegor the BasedAegon III
>>218043569NO!!! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME
Be a good soldier and kill a blackfyre
>>218043483Arise ser wagie and leave the premises.
going from binging this show and pluribus feels like fucking whiplash
>>2180418051) Robert Baratheon2) Maegor the Cruel3) Baelor the BlessedThe rest don't matter.
would Baelor survive that blow if he wore properly fitted armor? i think it'd still at least be a concussion
>>218043693No, Maekar was going for the kill.
>>218043614Honestly I can see it. It's perfectly in character for Viserys. Vaguely aware of what he should to but too weak/sentimental to do it, so instead he half-asses it. A stronger king would have just had Daemon executed for the "heir for a day" shit.
>>218043693hard to know but certainly far better chances.
>>218043693Yeah and he’d have a seven foot tall manservant to boot
>>218043693Bloodraven was going to kill him eitherway
>>218043693Probably. I think the idea with armor is that it's supposed to be able to crumple in without killing you, that's why breastplates have a bit of a curve to them instead of being tight against the chest. If Baelor has a better helmet he just gets his bell rung, but he lives. Ironically though he's probably knocked out and unable to tell Steely Pate not to pour boiling oil on Dunk, so Dunk dies and this was all for nothing.
>>218043693His survival changes would have definitely improve.Not only the plate would match his measurements, but the padding beneath would have cushion better Maekar's blows.
>>218043614>And Daemon is a shady enough bastard to kill her for this.No, Daemon would just force her to marry him and make himself a king
>>218043693yes, the helmet was too small and was not made for him, but then again Maekar probably thought Daeron died after the first charge and was desperate to not lose another son, any man between him and Aerion was at risk of death at that point
>>218043301To him his prophetic dream became true, he won't last very long sober, he'll dull the senses again to escape that terror.
>>218043736>steely pate runs onto the field>ur grace wait, I noticed you helm fit poorly, take this padded coif and a spare helm I have>thanks :)>post battle>wow my head is ringing, maekar sure is strong haha>weirwood arrow whizzes in through an open window
>>218043693don't know about the show but the book makes a deliberate point about his armor not fitting him and being thrown on last minute, grrm doesn't just throw in details like that on accident
>>218041435>avoid everything about the new show>storyslop for 4 episodes>its alright plus everyone keeps hyping episode 5>finally reach episode 5>it's an over 20 minutes flashback for some character i don't give a shit aboutI hope the show runner gets raped and the series canned.
>>218043301he's so hot he should return to play rhaegar
In hindsight, they should have realized Viserys would be able to have at least one more child with his 16 year old wife ahead of time
BUZZ
>Dunk, give me your sword and your badge
>>218043783You dont care about dunk?
>>218043776>>weirwood arrow whizzes in through an open window>hits Baelor and somehow Daemon Blackfyre again
>>218043783>for some character i don't give a shit aboutyou mean dunk? you gorilla apestop posting selfies with your posts.
>>218043378The nature of Westeros is best seen with Tywin's upbringing. Tywin understands Westeros well. Kindness is seen as weakness and vulnerability to be exploited. The only counter to it is calculated overwhelming force which shocks everyone into compliance. Tywin's dad was soft and he was taken advantage of. Tywin comes into power and destroys the Reynes and Tarbecks and everyone basically goes "yeah, let's not fuck with him ever again." That's ultimately what you need to do to keep Westeros in check because again, there's always a Bolton waiting to betray you, a Hightower or Tyrell looking to jump up another level of status, a bunch of houses looking to lift up a Blackfyre or equivalent as the legitimate king, and eventually without dragons in that setting, you will lose. Whether it happens quickly and all at once or you get worn down over a few generations, it's still swimming in acid. Even Tywin eventually loses because he treats his kids like shit and gets taken out in a vulnerable position on the toilet by his son and without Tywin, things quickly start going to shit for the Lannisters because Tywin was their dragon equivalent. Kevan is sort of a "smaller dragon" and Varys promptly takes him out as well.
>>218042617They're the rightful heirs
you told me it would be a feel good showwhy am i devastated now
>>218043792>maester with a giant seven pointed star on his chaindid they always do this?
Look what they did to our boy
>Dunnk gets stabbed with a lance, stabbed with a sword, stabbed with a knife, slashed with a sword multiple times, hit with a morningstar in the head, a mace in the head>Fine>Arya gets stabbed with a knife repeatedly and tossed into a sewer>Fine>Khal Drogo gets a slight cut>Fucking diesDothraki bros....
>>218042759Aegon had 3 at the start of the conquest
>>218043783you have been bitching about the flashback for 2 days now
>>218043826A feel good show by a song of ice and fire standards.
>>218041805
>>218043830it isnt a 7 pointed star, it got 6 points so it might just be drip>>218043840Miri
>>218043789>gets swatted down
>>218043794>>218043805Rafe niggers need not reply
>>218043840>>Fine>>218043834
>>218043843I just got there TODAY.
>>218043840the show doesnt show this, but Drogo removed all the treatments on purpose and was stuffing his wound with dirt for weeks>>218043830can you count?
>>218043840Werent he poisoned by the witch on purpose?
>>218043808Tywin was a fucking retard. If it hadn't been for deus ex shadow baby taking out Renly, he would have been caught between the Starks/Tullys on one side and the Tyrells/Baratheons on the other. Every clever plot and alliance is some other character handing him a W or just sheer luck.
>>218043883Yes
>>218043782He was way too confident in the knowledge that three of the combatants were not allowed to hurt him, going in with poor fitting armor is like no armor...
Barth!
>>218043864>Baelor that low>Dany that high>Stannis that low>no King who bore the Abs
>>218043886Stannis would have won against Renly even without shadow baby
>>218043864Where would you place John Targaryen?
>>218043864>viserys anywhere but in the deepest of tiers
>>218043899Also probably wasn't expecting his brother to go for a fucking kill shot
>>218043883No, he rubbed mud into his wound instead of the witches medicine
>>218043782>we couldnt film a scene where he explains this, we needed 20 minutes to have a flashback>>218043915doubtful, Renly had the larger army and the tyrells on his side as well
GO FIND THE THREAD STRETCHERNAOOW
>>218043923Bealor made nothing but bad decisions. Clearly his competence was exaggerated. The kingdom is better off that he was never king.
>>218043915Lol how? Renly had by far the larger army, Stannis is a good general but unless he's secretly the Napoleon of Westeros he was utterly fucked
>>218043864only Jaehaerys is S classThe Mannis is A classthe rest are all worse than F.
>>218043954>secretly
>>218043910>Dany that highWhat's the issue?
>>218043916>JohnRelative of Caitlyn, Jamie and Ramsey
>>218043929He had surely been cut before. Is he retarded? Bad dirt? Or just unlucky this time?
I hope someone found Rafe and used her corpse or head as relief tool for a long voyage to Essos.
>>218043972Dany is a terrible queen. Total garbage as a ruler.
>>218043954He was gonna Agincourt him
>>218041917He's better known for his handshipHe was Hand for like 20+ yearsPretty much the Tywin of his time
If Robert had found out that Cersei had made him a cuckold, how quickly would the Lannisters have been exterminated
>>218043971Unironically it would have been more interesting if he actually was, and Renly got obliterated fair and square
>>218043940>>218043954>Renly had the larger army and the tyrells on his side as wellTyrel army was leagues away, Renly had only double his numbers. would charge his cavalry(which he would lead) right into Stannis frontline as rising sun blinds them. After that massacre rest of the army would surrender
in the last episode>the last time we see Raymun>the last time we see MaekarI cant..
>>218043997Not at all he’d get drunk and enter a state of denial rather than accept the humiliation
>>218043986she got thrown into the pot of brown bruh
>>218043987In what way?
SS+ tier
>>218043997Fairly quickly. The lannisters did have a good army so they could fight for a time.
NEW>>218044021>>218044021>>218044021
>>218043990too busy ruling for his family that he couldn't be a proper father
>>218043997Instantly. All of them except Lancel who is made into new Cersei.
>>218044009>Renly had only double his numbersOh, only a 2 to 1 advantage? That's practically even, Renly should have surrendered on the spot.
>>218043997Almost immediately. The Rock could withstand siege for a decade but with literally every other kingdom bearing down on them it'd just be Iron Islands 2.0.
>>218044015She spends all her time not ruling and getting fucked in the ass by dario while others the to fix the mess she made. Bobby B was more or a ruler than she is.
>>218044019>SS tierOh I see what you did there
>>218044013Oh, I skipped that part like all parts involving uppity brown women
>cuckraven threadMake a real one before I shit myself.
>>218044045She spent a lot of time conquering and bringing back dragons from nothingShe's done more than most with less
>>218043949shouldn't it be the other way around? keke regardless
>resurrecting 3 dragonsRealistically, will the population just collapse again after a few generations of inbreeding?
>>218042594castrato
>>218042379Fuck Daeron, All My Homies Support Daemon
>>218041869Dornish hands typed this
