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How common is marrying cousins in Westeros? Just realized Tywin and his wife are first cousins. Is there just no incest taboo unless you’re siblings basically?
Why don't they civilize themselves?
>>218648686the Thenns did
>>218648686too much wild shit, not enough infrastructure to support a larger population.
i hate GoT's geographyI hate its politicsThey are good, but they're too drama-ey if you get my meaning
>>218648464Could I play a Targ?
>>218648931kill yourself, brownperson>>218648957one of the uglier ones.
>>218648836How does the NW's wooden cranes make it through multi-year -40c degree winters?
>>218648980>kill yourself, brownpersonI'm a french-italo-polish merge descendant, you bad person! why would you say that to me
>>218649035They don't.
which kingdom would be comfier, the North, the Stormlands or the Westerlands?
>>218649168The Disputed Lands as a sellswordchad
>>218649092>italoBrown.
>>218649100>>218649035zoomers don't understand that things can be taken down or repaired if they're broken? kek zoomers are so fucking retarded
>>218648464TAOOBA!
>>218649168The North is a freezing cold boring shithole, the Stormlands are constant rain and gale-force winds, at least the Westerlands has normal terrain and weather and a big city in Lannisport
Uh-oh, unc got mad.
>>218649168The north easily. Moles town.
>>218649474a lot of anons like thunderstorms
>>218649168da norf and then enlist in the knight's watch of my own volition.
>>218649796and then desert for wildling pussy?
How you think their meeting will go in the books ?
>>218650078>in the books
Why does Dune do the Targ aesthetic better than thrones and hotd
reading Fire & Blood, honestly S1 of HOTD is far better the source materialA big part of it is due to the nature of how the story is told in the book vs the show, which allows for a far greater characterization for most characters but evn then i'd still say most of its addition/changes are for the better
>THE FUCKING APPLEBOY
>>218649636from the comfort of their climate-controlled house
>>218650008giant pussy
>>218650631Based
>>218650216
the show went to shit but it was obvious since early seasons she was a crazy bitch, right?
>>218648645>Just realized Tywin and his wife are first cousinsdamn this niggas hypocrisy just keeps coming huh
>>218651351yeah
>new way works better for them>ironborn keep falling back to old way and losingwhy
>>218651637High T.
>>218648645you are now aware queen Elizabeth was related to her husband Phillip on both sides, royal incest is standard
>>218650631>Tywin goes against Falwells>kills Moonboy
>>218627630wouldnt rope be expensive in westeros? why waste good rope when you can just cut off their heads
>Fossoways refuse cider discount for casterly rock >tywin the next scene
>>218652113You can reuse the noose though.
>>218652113go to bed Lindy
>>218648957i would marry this female
>>218652131lol
>>218652198same
>>218652131machiavellian
>>218652131>Tywin fights against Grandisons>wakes up
>>218652848He barely hit him. Was his skull made of beeswax?
>>218652848will he BEE okay?get it?
>>218652973don't BEE like that
Beneath the gold, the bitter seethe.
>>218650532Yeah Fire and Blood is pretty dull and bloodless. I acknowledge much of HotD is shit and the showrunners pushing an agenda but I don’t think its a big deal they depart from the source material. Though theres two or three awesome moments later on i’m gonna be pissed they fuck up
>>218653471Nice reddit meme.
>>218652113anon is conflating the method of execution with being the person carrying it out
How did this emerge from Viserys and Alicent
>>218652131>starks try to uncover incest between his kids (which is totally not true)>creampies a white walker
>>218653471Beneath the Chuck, the Bittersneed
>>218653756Someone photoshop a state trooper hat on him, please.
Maekor's actor was talking in an interview about the funeral scene for Baelor, and how there is a shot where Egg reaches to hold his hand, and he slaps it away. Did this get cut? I just rewatched and I didn't see it.
>>218654302I also never saw it. Not sure why they cut it tho.
who tf was this nigga? surely not daeron right?
>>218654827forgot pic
why did they make egg act like an ipad kid who mimicks his favorite streamer
....semoc eH
>>218655353>he's cut
>>218655436
How come the costumes are so much better in dunk than GoT?
>>218655066this bothered me also
>>218655766it is "peace time" (after blackfyre "rebellion") unlike Baratheon Supremacy absolutely obliterating seven kingdoms
>>218655766the people making it actually give a fuck
>>218650216They actually painted his eyebrows white
>>218652452The balls were so fucking stupid
>>218656437anon they are meant to 'checking in'you knowlike boomer's timestamp shit
Who here /seanigger/?
My friend just watched the whole GoT series for the first time with 0 spoilers. What should I ask him?
egg is icsh
>>218657824ask him if you can buttfuck him
>>218650216DUNC isn't produced by lazy, retarded people. we literally just started getting "proper" exotic hairs with Dunk and Egg, and even then these fucking faggots refuse to give them contact lenses.
>>218657824A finger in the bum?
>>218658356>finger in the bumhhhnnngggghhhhh
>>218657824Did he think Sansa's wedding was beautiful
>>218658453He says he thought the actress was cool for putting up with getting raped on screen
>>218657824Was the rape good?
Who’s she yelling at?
>>218650631
I need good posts, Ser Duncan.The thread
How will they fuck up season 2?
Do you think they told them to hold hands or is that the kind of thing the actors work out for themselves while they pretend to be into it
Will the ratcatchers grandpa be in season 2?
Does anyone have the video that used to get posted around here of Littlefinger's trial but edited so he isn't retarded and actually makes good arguments? I've looked all over the internet and I can't for the life of me find it, just a new version with AI voices that sucks
>More Grand Maesters, your grace?
why didn't Vizzy ride a dragon?
>>218661112His dragon died.
>>218661112He rode Balerion, there's no eclipsing that.
>>218649287this. basically the wild west.
>>218661112Was it ever mentioned if a Dragon Rider can take another dragon after their previous one dies?Also so many people joke about how Balerion dies of cringe after being ridden by Vizzy once, but I like to see it as Viserys having the absolute most respect for the dragon that forged a kingdom and bonded with him just to give him that one last ride before he passed.
>>218648645>Tywin and his wife are first cousins.Implying you wouldn't.
If GRRM also plans for Arya to sail west on her single ship with zero naval experience, logically how long it will take for crew to mutiny and gangrape her?
>>218652848The ONLY reason for including of that prop, was solely for that scene. It literally had no other purpose.
>>218655766>How come the costumes are so much better in dunk than GoT?They're not, they're still dark, dull and drab and everybody wears leather and rags because Hollywood never read a history book.
>>218649474>The North is a freezing coldIt's warm enough they grow wheat in the Gift, which means it's even warmer the more South you go.
>>218650162There will be books, anon. The nanosecond GRRM dies his publisher will hire ghost writers to finish them up.
>>218648686The Night's Watch sends out rangers to kill all attempts at development and civilization.
>>218662609>which means it's even warmer the more South you gosmartest asoiaf fan
>>218648645Pretty sure Ned's parents were also cousins.Cousin marriage seems to be accepted, its mainly really close incest like sibling or parental that was taboo.
>>218662946Cousin marriage when world wide accepted thing until last 50 years
>>218662999Which is a relatively new thing. Contrary to modern stereotypes (powered partly by GoT) the european middle ages had a very strong incest taboo. The medieval catholic church for a time atleast forbade marriage within seven degrees of relation to be incest. That was insanely wide and produced massive problems for high nobility to find spouses. This is why, for example, one generation after the kievan rus converted to christianity they were able to marry three of their daughters off to european kings. Those kings were desperate for unrelated princesses. The church later relented and cut it down to four degrees of relationship. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity#Christianity https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Kiev
>>218659364Kit, she is sick of him saying how he had to wear such heavy clothes and how he had it so hard. And he started doing the shoulder dance as she tried talking.
>>218661776Aegon II's council urged him to claim another dragon after Sunfyre died and he agreed but was too weak to travel.
>>21866246615 minute from the shore
>>218648686Hardhome was their best civilisation attempt and it got nuked out of the story. I understand the wildlings dont really want to try a second time.
Why was Tywin jobbing to Edmure again?
>maize exists in Westeros and is a staple crop grown by the smallfolkThat means there are Dornish maidens making tortillas out of it
>>218664310>Tywin has to cross at least one of several fords to go west >Edmure has fortified said fords and has a mounted reserve to cove breakthroughs, and a comparable forceSeems fairly easy to understand
>>218654859No, it's Aerys and Elaena next to him.
>>218661776Show vizzy is a /his/autist so it makes sense for him to claim balerion even when it means he'll (maybe) never fly another dragon. He just wants to larp and show respect to the dragon of kings. Also he grew up and lived in a peacefull time so the need for a dragon for practical purposes like fighting probably never crossed his mind.
>>218660100>there... there are no more wives your grace.
>>218658324Ironically they gave contacts to Baelor's actor to replicate the heterochromia Valarr's actor has, but these producers still can't get over their thought that purple eyes would look dumb despite this being a fantasy series.
Wolf's blood.what does it do? Does Jon have it?
>>218664603Yeah. Kinda. If he about to ultra buff himself, turn his hair into white and eyes red and Ghost into a big fuckoff Direwolf
>>218664343dornish tacos?
Why didn't the Golden Company just take over Essos?
>>218664729with bacon burned black and fiery dragon peppers
>>218664850That's like asking why the Wagner Group didn't just take over Europe
>>218664603> what does it do?Lowers your intelligence and you’re less likely to comprehend outcomes of your actionsExamples>LyannaRun away without telling anything to her family, causes death of her brother and father >Ned brotherGoes to Red Keep and calls out for Rhaegar head, knowing that Mad King is fucking insane.Gets himself and his father killed, also would cause Ned’s death if not for Jon Arryn>AryaBasically everything she does is without long term planning. Has max luck so only reason she is alive/not raped
>>218664959What Wagner did try though was to turn on their employer and march on moscow. Just like many historical condottiere tried to take over power, some succesfully.The closest historical counterpart to the Golden Company is probably the Great Catalan Company who came from spain, got hired by the byzantines, suffered a red wedding style betrayal and then conquered some territory in greece to rule for themselves:https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_CompanyI find it a bit unrealistic how the Golden Company is this giant army that maintains itself for 100 years while just "floating" around. They were clearly just invented by grrm so that fAegon can pull a ready made army out of his ass.
>>218666085the Three Daughters being in an eternal brushfire war over the lands between them is the stated reason why sellsword companies in Essos are so successful. They've been fighting the high medieval Italian Wars x100 for 400 years straight
>>218648686Why does everyone hate the ice river clans?
>>218666181Better question is how do they exist
>>218666208Oh sure, here comes the ice river clan internet defense force to stop us discussing why nobody likes them.
>>218666152>high medieval Italian Warssorry to be a /his/ autist but the Italian Wars were early modern rather than high medieval. It was mostly pike & shot warfare with heavy artillery use.
>>218650631>loves fishing>Egg loves fishing>Tywin was Egg's cupbearerDeepest lore
>>218666276I phrased what I'm saying badly, I mean the wars fought between Italian city states in the 1200s and 1300s, not The Italian Wars™ in the 1500s. I don't know if there's a unified name for the period I'm talking about
>>218666314NTA but isn't it just the renaissance?
ASOIAF would be cooler if it was fantasy + early modern rather than fantasy + high medieval desu.
>>218666085>They were clearly just invented by grrm so that fAegon can pull a ready made army out of his asshalf the shit in later books were retroactively invented by GRRM to save his own ass
>Bittersneed lands in Westeros again for another rematch with Bloodraven>Bloodraven nowhere to be seen, realizes Egg sent him to the wall>Fucks off back to Essos and leaves his nephew to die(again) this time at Ser Duncan's hand"Daemon III Blackfyre led his forces across the narrow sea, with Aegor Rivers and the Golden Company at his back, and landed at Massey's Hook.[1]""Daemon III's hope was that winning a few small victories in Westeros would encourage more lords to rally to his support. In truth, the Blackfyre cause was already starting to fade: to most Westerosi lords the Blackfyre host seemed an army of foreigners holding tattered old banners of a failed usurper who had died forty years ago. The hoped-for groundswell of support never happened, and the invasion never spread far beyond the initial landings in the stormlands.""King Aegon V Targaryen and his three sons, Princes Duncan, Jaehaerys, and Daeron, rode out themselves to face the rebels. The rebellion soon ended at the Battle of Wendwater Bridge, where the Blackfyre army was defeated, and Ser Duncan the Tall of the Kingsguard slew Daemon III. Aegor Rivers escaped once more, fleeing back to Essos."
I wonder how the Golden Company is always able to retreat with enough men from a massive defeat to still be able to reconstitute. Do they never even make it far from the coast where their ships are ready to evacuate them? Do Blackfyre loyalists just spawn out of thin air over in Essos?
>>218666794>Blackfyre loyalistsMost of the GC doesn't give a shit
>>218652931Breaking the skull is really easy. A lot of people getting into drunk fistfights die because they fall and hit their head on the curb.
>>218666794the Golden Company is the first stop for anyone who can fight that gets exiled from Westeros, and they get the pick of Essosi sellswords because they have a reputation for high professionalism and success rates (when they aren't invading Westeros)
>>218648464Thank you for your attention
>>218666903>the Golden Company is the first stop for anyone who can fight that gets exiled from WesterosThat makes sense. Jorah also served with them for a while.
>>218666678At that point Aegor got almost as many Blackfyres killed as Brynden, maybe that's their real competition instead of fighting over Shiera's pussy.
>>218667078imo it's the biggest piece of evidence against Young Griff necessarily being a Blackfyre. By the time the books take place a decent chunk, possibly a majority, of the Westerosi in the GC are people who fled during and after Robert's Rebellion, not diehard multigeneration TRVE Blackfyre supporters
>>218648645No one cared about royal incest unless it invalidated the lineage to the throne
>>218648686why didnt they explore further north and settle lands far away?
>>218648645Motherfuckers/Daughterfuckers are also seen as bad but there aren't many examples besides Craster and some Tarly dude that married his hot stepmom after his dad died.Unclefuckers are also not well regarded based on the faith's reaction to Maegor almost marrying his niece.
Why did Bitterseeth allow Daemon II to try the second Blackfyre rebellion without the support of him and the Golden Company? Because that way it would obviously lead to what happened: It'll draw out the remaining BF supporters just to get all of them killed or arrested, destroying the chance at support for future invasions.
>>218667184Would there even be that many exiles when Bobby gladly pardoned everyone that fought for the Targs as long as they bent the knee?And any actual hardcore Targ loyalists should have probably chosen the Targ with the fucking firebreathing nukes that are the symbol of their house rather than the kid that says "Trust me, bro" .Honestly being a secret Blackfyre plot is the only thing that can make Aegon remotely interesting narratively speaking rather than just some random wild card Gurm added to the mix to keep fucking delaying Dany's arrival to Westeros and that she won't curbstomp everyone as soon as she gets there.
>>218667601>some random wild card Gurm addedheh
>Called Daeron the Good>Sold out his kingdom to Dorne unlike the previous DaeronWhy is he considered good when he's a sellout of a king?
>>218648701Uh no sweetums they were le ebil cannibal men
>>218667503Peake and Gaymon jumped the gun and told everyone behind Bittersteel's back that they were going for it and that the Golden Company would totally support them once they raised their banners.
>My lords and ladies. I suppose this is the most important moment of our lives. What we decide today will reverberate through the annals of history. I stand before you as one of the senior lords in the country. A veteran of two wars. And I like to think my experience has led to some small skill in statecraft - and underst-
>>218666464If people in Westeros can make wildfire how come than can't make gunpowder?
>Medieval knight wielding a fire lance c.1396>>218668061We cannot have social or technological change in this story. This is GRRM's westeros after all.
>>218667814Nuncle. Sit down.
>>218648701>>218667728Why did they turn the Thenns into scarred evil cannibal men
>>218668193because D&D didn't want to make freefolk interesting, having bronze wielding people north of the wall require too much explanation...so make them cannibals
>>218668193the Thenns needed to be important and special and stand out from the other wildlings, but the NFL watching viewers wouldn't understand if there was a tribe of free folk that weren't savage niggers
Remember when that fucking guy from the Thenns was talking about how nice and marbled the NW was haha
>>218667717>prevented dorne from chimping out for more than a centurysounds pretty by good to me
>>218668193>And so the creative team got together>WHAT IF the "thenns" instead of being civilized were actually the most barbaric?>And so we did it to kind of subvert the viewers expectations and shock the reading fan base
What was Eddard's plan if there were more than three dudes at the Tower of Joy?
>>218668711Send raven to stormlands, not like he knew his sister was bleeding out to death anyways
Better question, what would the three kingsguards do after lyanna died and her child was born if ned didn't get there in time
>>218668711Rhaegar and Aerys were dead. There were no reasons to fight him rather than giving him his sister back besides legit believing that Rhaegar's rape baby was now the future of the Targ dynasty.
>>218668814You ever saw the movie Three Men and a Baby?
How did they even know where to look for Lyanna
>>218668814they swore a vow
>>218668878I guess some of the Dornish hostages after the Trident told Ned
>>218668903>In the name of the Stranger, I charge you to let the King burn, torture, rape and behead whomever he wants.
>>218669016Go back to the Praetorian Guard
>>218669042>More bribes, your grace?
>>218666181Treecucks hate them for no converting to the CotF psy-op religion and still worshipping actual First Men gods.
>>218668711>>218668789>>218668828I don't think that what was happening at the Tower of Joy was Jon's birth.My guess is that Lyanna gave birth just fine, but then there was some blood magic ritual performed on her as a sacrifice to essentially speedrun her into Nysa-Nysa.This is why Ned destroyed the entire tower - to erase all evidence of it happening.This is why the Kingsguard barred his way - the ritual was ongoing.This is also why the Daynes hold him in such high regard - he kept that secret to himself and spared them the ignonimity of Arthur Dayne being some deranged warlock's toady.
>>218669129Retard.
>>218669129Then Ned liked that spoopy shit so much that he did the same for Bran's birth which is why he has so many more norf magic bullshit powers than Jon does
>>218669129There's always been the question of how Ned and Howland took down a whole tower by themselves. Mayhaps there was a large amount of wildfire stored there for ritual purposes and they used that to blow everything up.
>>218669295Doesn’t Neds own reflections in GoT say they were Seven against Three or something?
Ned explicitly remembers tearing down the tower to build graves for the Kingsguard and his own men.
>>218669295https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1194>You'll need to wait for future books to find out more about the Tower of Joy and what happened there, I fear.>I might mention, though, that Ned's account, which you refer to, was in the context of a dream... and a fever dream at that. Our dreams are not always literal.Don't worry everything will be revealed when the future books are released
>>218648464>BittersneedHis name is Betasteel
>>218669348Ned and Howland were the only two survivors and it's quite unlikely they all mucked in to tear down the tower before having a fight.
>>218669450Oh I read “took down a whole tower” like clearing a building in CoD
>>218669295Paying nearby smallfolks for help? Or maybe ned and the daynes were closer than the reader knows
>>218669412>when the future books are releasedThey will be. The nanosecond GRRM dies several ghost writers will be hired by his publisher.
>>218669685Gurm will legitimize all theories and fanfictions in his deathbed to screw us over one last time
>>218669412Just two more books!
>>218664520>SO GET MOAR!
>>218669838Based if true
>>218668061Pretty much like greeks had greek fire but didn't had gunpowder weapon in 1453.
Ser Duncan of Idaho…Four jihads for Ser Duncan. He must have been quite the ghola.
uh, so how was the Titan of Braavos built?
Isn’t it crazy Ned considers asking Barristan Selmy to take over Arya’s lessons from Syrio? Kingsguard really is the worst job in the world
On a rewatch and Oathkeeper (s06e04) is the last highlight of the show, I’d say. Plenty of stuff had already pissed me off by this point, but Ser Alliser’s arc was pure kino the whole way through. I also like to headcanon that when NK “kills” Brynden in the weirwood, he just takes over Bran instead of Bran “becoming” the 3ER. Gods Sansa was stupid then, every scene with her leading up to the battle is just pure ragebait.
what are house Dayne words?
>>218653756
>>218670039It's a mecha from before the nuclear winter we call the long night.
>>218670040>the greatest swordsman of modern Westeros dual wielding in the TV show is LE BAD>Bronn, a fucking illiterate sellsword, dual wielding in the first book is LE GOOD
>>218670039very carefully
>>218670163The Tower of Joy fight was kino in show.
>>218670163>guy who famously wields a magic two handed sword in the dual wielding generic prop longswords is le badyes
>>218670163Why the fuck would you ever waste an arm on some second shit sword when you could two hand the most powerful sword in Westeros? Like shouldn’t Dayne just be able to cleave guys on two? Even a shield makes more sense in the off hand. Or a short sword.
>>218670163Bronn uses a sword and large dagger, not two long swords.
>>218670388Maybe the sword is too big for him because what are the odds the famous ancestral swords are just the right length for every person who gets it in the bloodline
>>218670423Dawn isn't passed down like an heirloom, it's only given to men worthy of wielding it
>>218670495then why'd they give it to a guy with no feats?
>>218667184If the male Blackfyre line truly is extinguished it makes sense for the Gold Company to shift their support to a Targ since like one of their guys said "Black or Red, a Dragon is Still a Dragon"
>>218670423>>218670495Yeah, there currently isn’t a star of the morning or whatever they call the wielder. Maybe if Darkstar wasn’t such an edge lord retard he could wield it
>>218670508there are no Latinxes in Westeros so Dragon Ball powerscaling hasn't caught on
>>218670495Everyone knows that
>>218670508He had the best story.
>>218670040I only recently found out the actor for Dayne is the same guy who plays James in the Silent Hill 2 remake
Who was the best queen in Westeros in terms of >Looks>Being a queen
>>218658600>getting raped on screenShe didn’t though.
>>218672071Dany was the best looking, Alicent in probably the best Queen in that she doesn’t actively try and get people killed
>>218672299Starting a civil war to put your child on a throne sounds like trying to kill a lot of people
>>218664549>wa-ow! one actor got one contact lens that wasn't even purple!!! better mention that!faggots like you who make excuses and add useless information to discussions need to die.
>>218670039Same way the Colossus of Rhodes of built. Piece by piece.
>>218672780anon's post adds to the discussion while yours literally does not in any way though
>>218672780Retard.
Bros....
>>218673651>>218673637>let me prove him wrong by posting showfag shitkek zoomers are so fucking retarded lmao
>>218673810what a shit map
>>218673810>Lorath on the StepstonesHuh?
>>218673810How long will it take for Dany to get to Westeros?>get to Vaes Dothrak>get all Khalasars under her rule>get back to Meereen>get to DragonstoneI'd say between 6-12 months
>OYSTERS, CLAMS AND COCKLES wtf why did she announce her STDs like that??
>>218674182it's based on fan speculation before TWOIAF released the actual earth map (I refuse to call ti planetos)
>>218674255>Braavos is a cock to the dick island
>>218674306more like Long amiright
>>218673810woah look a gay map you're totally not a faggot at all anon>let me prove him wrongwhat does this even mean, you sperg out when someone points out you're doing the very thing you're complaining about just chill out retard
>>218674779>fuck you fandom wildling village, get nuked bitch
>>218674255Notice Braavos way down south, where lemons grow.
foes and false friends are all around me, Lord Davos
>you will never get to be a westerosi man at arms fighting braavosi pirates for a wage + bountyfuck this gay earth
We all know that Planetos is a post-nuclear timeline, but what doomsday weapon ended the old world?
>>218674779>>218674941A nuke doesn't cause six months long ashfall.
>>218674779Probably it was that cannibal dragon thats still loose
>>218666903>best mercenary group in Essos>jobs 100% of the time in WesterosEssossi really suck at war.
what was Robert's tax policy?
>>218669398How do 2 guys pull down a big stone tower?
>>218675330FUCK OFF PRESTON
>>218675514very carefully
The reason for the fucked up seasons is magical George has said. King bran is George taking inspiration from the fisher king legend, where the crippled kings condition is directly linked with the condition of the land. In the story when the fisher king is healed the land is also healed. Now In the east there is the legend of the fisher queens whose reign ends when azor ahai slays all the hairy men greenseers and unites all the human tribes. He probably took a fisher queen to wife as his nissa nissa and did what the warlocks wanted to do to dany in order to leech her magic, keeping her alive forever in some way but it great torment, causing the seasons the warp. Bran will have to free her broken soul her to return the balance
Fire and Blood makes it very clear that roughly 1 in 20 Targaryen births results in some fucked up lizard abomination, yet no one seems to comment on it or put 2 and 2 together.
>>218674779Hardhome was a suntarrean volcano.
Scenario: A Wildling army passes the Wall and marches south, there they meet a Blackfyre army on it's newest invasion attempt.Who loses?
>>218675584That was because Tyanna of the Hightower kept poisoning Maegor's pregnant wives.
>>218675545I just can't imagine Ned and Howland tearing down a tower, digging 8 graves and building cairns all while newborn Jon is chilling.
>>218675503he was a firm believer in Keynesian spending and MMT
>>218675632It happens to Laena too. And probably others im forgetting
>>218675553Have we ever gotten any confirmation that Essos also experiences weird seasons? Because if not I think I know what's happening:The Others on the north pole are conducting weird magical rituals every few years. The exact date and length of the ritual is irregular. This causes strong polar winds that blow down south, over the Wall, and over Westeros along it's north-south axis. Thereby causing the mini ice ages.Maybe the Others are doing super rituals to turn human incest babies into their own species or something.
>>218675514see >>218669295
>>218675584How many people in Westeros know the history of Valyria? How many people know how genetics work? How many people would think this fairly normal, albeit exotic looking people, would perform horrendous blood magic and Dr. Moreau experiments to achieve power?
>>218675514leverage>bigit's small and would be in disrepair given that it wasn't manned
>>218675514He got an erection then just did a 360. Rods were strong, then.
>>218675609At the head of the Blackfyre is Daemon (PBUH) and the wildlings immediately kneel, with every wildling chieftain giving Daemon their best-looking daughters.
>>218675730“Westeros is not the only place affected, but it's affected most strongly, because it's the only landmass that extends that far north. The other continent is bounded to the north by an icy polar sea.” Grrm
>>218675774Imagine if some Targs just popped out as dragongirls instead of malformed, dying babies with some scales.
>>218675666they wouldn't need to dig anything and they could use horses to pull the tower down
>>218666477Two entire books of cope because he didn't do the timeskip
>>218676162
The Other are just “shadow babies” made by ice magic instead of fire magic and they are created by all the greenseers trapped under weirwood trees
>spending gorrillions of slaves, resources, and money to build a meme castle on a lake instead of properly settling the Trident and dredging (or whatever other method) the Ruby Ford so you can send barges all the way down to the sea/Saltpans/Maidenpool uninterruptedNow that the dust has settled, what was Harren's IQ?
>>218676530Lower than his body temperature in celsius, especially at the end of his life.
>>218676530FAVSTIAN as fuck
>>218676530How many km from harrenhal to maidenpool?
>>218676763Same as the number of silver stags in a gold dragon
>>218676763200+ miles from point to point, so like 320km. That seems kind of far now that I think about it, but that's what one of the maps says
>>218676530It was a flex on the Old Gods so they'd have to watch as the Ironborn used their worshippers as slave labour to build a monstrosity on the lakeshore.
>>218676309Now I want to know what the spoilered text in that post is saying
>>218676937>their worshippersOutside of the island itself, the Riverlands is pretty Andalized.
They always say the reach and riverlands have the best farmlands and they never say the westerlands have hood or bad but they have mines. Shouldn’t the Vale and Stormlands be poor af then?
>>218677089Probably a lot of naval trade.
>>218677089What retarded logic is that? Not being described as the richest doesn't mean they're poor. There are places actually described as poor like the iron islands.
>>218672780>>218673810Massive faggot
>>218675975Nah there used to be two moons that seasonally anchored the planet. One moon blew up and ever since then the seasons are fucked, because the planet is still stabilizing. Just like bitterblooms in a thousand worlds. It is known>>218670593Please post moreAsoiaf is so post-apocalyptic already. Yeah we had the means to built a giant ice wall, but we kinda forgot how. Yeah we have no idea how old the base of the Hightower is. Age of moat Caitlin? No clue. Valyrian steel? Yeah no idea how that's made either. Wildfire? We kinda forgot.There are massive caves (or are those bunkers?) all over the place. Oily black stone or basalt all over the place. Only 2 people can access the weirwoodnet and even that only shows things happening close to the weirwoods. Valyria blew up. Hardholme blew up. Stepstones got smashed, the neck got flooded, ruins in the sothyros jungle, asshai sounding like a nuclear waste site.
>>218662595>They're not,the armour absolutely is.
>>218676309That dude is extremely autistic. No way that will ever happen and it's a poor cope on why the fatfuck stopped writing (he got too much money and spending the rest of his days enjoying it is the only thing that really matters to him).>buuut the story got too complicated and there are too many characters bloating it upAnd? He's the creator, he can do literally anything and write any kind of asspulls to solve it, if he wanted to. Euron summons a ginormous kraken that tentacle-rapes to death all the superfluous characters. Rhaegal and Viserion burn the whole Slavers' Bay to a crisp. Rocks fall, everyone die.
>>218655847>Baratheon Supremacy>one brother is a literal cuck x 3>one brother has no son and his daughter has supernatural leprosy>one brother is gay
>>218674779>>218677637>Please post more
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>>218675584They should have done that with other animal themed houses.Sometime Stark babies are just wolf pups or some Lannisters are born with a lion's tail.
>>218677089>In Gulltown [The Vale] possessed a fine and formidable natural harbor, and under the Arryns it grew intro one of the foremost cities of the Seven Kingdoms. Though the Vale itself is famously fertile, it is small compared to the domains of other kings (and even some great lords), and the Mountains of the Moon are bleak, stony, and inhospitable. Trade is therefore of paramount importance to the rulers of the Vale.Stormlands is fairly poor in comparison, yeah. Which is probably why they spent a lot of time conquering the Riverlands & proto-Crownlands until the Ironborn pushed them out.>By the banks of small streams rose rude villages where folk hunted and trapped as their lords permitted. The furs from the stormlands were well regarded, but the true riches of the rainwood were found in its timber and rare hardwoods.
>>218675584>Fire and Blood makes it very clear that roughly 1 in 20 Targaryen births results in some fucked up lizard abomination, yet no one seems to comment on it or put 2 and 2 together.It's pretty clear that Valyrian dragonlords are some sort of magical chimeras with actual dragon blood that sometimes result in fucked up dragonoid mutations.
>>218667307that's what I'm wodneringSeemg like civilizing the Wildlings would have been a lot easier and cheaper than maintaining the wall
>>218678321The second moon was never an actual moon, it was a spaceship made of magical white metal, which was scavenged after it crashed to make dawn, just like in the short story Windhaven from grrm
>>218678390>Seemg like civilizing the Wildlings would have been a lot easier and cheaper than maintaining the wallNorthmen fucking hate Wildlings. There are some really big cultural differences depending on what Wildling clan/culture we're talking about, most of them don't want to be "civilized," and there are a fucking lot of them. Jon's seems to be the first person historically who gave this a serious try and he got his ass murdered for it because the rest of the watch fucking hate Wildlings so much.
>>218678390Most of the wildlings are feral niggers that constantly raid/murder/rape da norf. Plus the wall is a really easy way to exile retards and political opponents
>>218678297The inbreeding leads to stillbirths. The souls of the stillborn go into the dragoneggs and only when a soul has entered them they hatch. Drogo went into drogon, Viserys into Viserion, Rhaego into RheagalDuring Rhaenyras time there were so many new dragons because Aemmas stillbirths all went into the eggs that were already put into the cradles.
>Ormund, Lord of the Hightower, died at the First Battle of Tumbleton in 130 AC. According to Mushroom, the fifteen-year-old Lord Lyonel Hightower was infatuated with his father's widow, who was only two years older than the young lord, but Samantha refused his advances.>During the False Dawn, Lord Corlys Velaryon attempted to make peace between the warring factions. Lord Lyonel initially reacted angrily to the Sea Snake's offer, but Samantha allegedly persuaded her step-son to agree to Corlys's terms by allowing Lyonel to seduce her and promising to marry him if he made peace.>Lord Lyonel announced his intention to marry his father's widow, but the reigning High Septon forbade the union as a form of incest. However, Lyonel kept Samantha as his paramour for thirteen years and fathered six children on her.Is this based or cringe?
>>218679043It's just like my search history
>>218678445>Targaryen education
>>218679022>stillborn>Viserys
>>218679022I don’t like the theories that viserys and drogo and rhaego went into the dragons. They’re already dead by the time of the ritual. The eggs hatched because of the magical comet that happened to be passing by plus a fiery blood sacrifice of the witch
>>218666085>They were clearly just invented by grrm so that fAegon can pull a ready made army out of his ass.like with dany and the unsullied
>>218677843>he got too much money and spending the rest of his days enjoying it is the only thing that really matters to himIf that were true then he wouldn't write any more side material, yet he does.That's always such a doomer take him just not caring because he has money, it's like you guys can't imagine any different reason. It's much more likely that he's hung up on some insignificant details due to perfectionist autism and lost motivation because he's too lazy to tackle the problem. For one, being desperately fixated on absolutely doing seven books and no more than that despite the story not even properly being in its second act yet, out of three, when we're at book five.It's too much headache to come up with a solution to these problems and that depresses him so he stagnates.
>>218668425Odd take, the (((targs))) were the ones that kept chimping out on them
How does trial by combat work? If you're a knight you can just go do shit and always be not guilty because you're better at jousting?Seems pretty fuckin retarded
>>218679605until you piss off someone with better knights than you
>>218679605If you're in the wrong the gods make you lose though, simple as.
>>218679605The captor doesn't always have to accept the prisoners request for Trial by CombatLike when Jaime wanted it Robb just said "lul no"
>>218679605I choose my champion fire, good luck with that
>>218679887He was a prisoner of war though, not individually accused of a crime.
>>218679605It's probably not something with hard rules, but a social thing. Like how one knight can subsequently knight whoever he wants and however many people he wants theoretically.
>>218679938Daemon II then
>>218677954SCREAM BITCHSCREEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
>>218679919based incestuous alien
>>218680132>He stared down at his hands, as if he did not quite know what they were. “I was always strong…no one could stand before me, no one. How do you fight someone if you can’t hit them?” Confused, the king shook his head. “Rhaegar…Rhaegar won, damn him. I killed him, Ned, I drove the spike right through that black armor into his black heart, and he died at my feet. They made up songs about it. Yet somehow he still won. He has Lyanna now, and I have her.” The king drained his cup.mindbroken
>>218680132>at least my death won’t be for nothing….my son…the prince that was promised…he will vindicate m-AAACKKKKK
>bump limitWHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO!?
>>218677637The red comet is an orbiting spaceship/space station and magic becomes stronger when it is visible because it's all actually very advanced technologyDawn has been forged with materials found inside a crashed escape podor so Preston says
>>218680492No, Preston famously says the comet is a Volcryn.
>>218680307Arya's love for Jon did that btw
>muh Asoiaf YouTubers Think for yourself sheep
>>218680307And yes, this IS book canon as well
>>218680534HuhI don't know where I got that from then
>>218680881>this IS book canon as wellDabit literally said they picked Arya because they wanted to surprise viewers.
Someone batter be baking or I'll use a space ship as the next OP image ...
Invade with Golden Company:>>218681171>>218681171>>218681171
>>218663250where would peasants get non-cousins to marry? My grandfather is from england, my dad is a genealogy nut and went through the church registry for the village he came from, there were basically five big families and most of them married each other since leaving your village was very rare. I didn't look into it but wouldn't that mean that at some point it became inevitable to marry a distant cousin?
>>218681493Breaking that rule must have been inevitable, yes. The whole 7 generation thing was probably unfeasable for anyone in this small-scale, un-mobile, hirarchical society. But the church probably only cared / had control over the noble marriages, so that's were control was tighter.
>>218680213>rhaegar was beaten by robert>lost elia and lyannaouch
