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Bloodmagickers and tyrants! edition

https://x.com/got_onstage/status/2082210751121445223?s=20
SPOILERS FOR THE MAD KING PLAY ARE OUT. IF YOU CARE STEER CLEAR.


Previous: >>222132116
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>i need more details was it sent to him at stormsend ? the vale? given to him at the tourney like pls i need info
>Robert wins the tourney, and then Aerys has this case carried out and announces he had it specially made for Robert. Gives his sympathy for Robert’s parents, announces he had a replica made, and then unveils it and laughed in Robert’s face. True madlad
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the only thing I'm disappointed by is Ashara being a red herring and Brandon's cumrag, everything else is fine
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Alicent says gay men are nasty
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Not revealing Jons name pissed me off
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He was a fag, Arthur Dayne?
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>>222134020
The sooner we accept this, the better. Discuss the play all you want, it’s about as canon as the gospel of Thomas.
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>Aerys knows about Rhaegar’s plans and has a confrontation with him where he literally offers his neck and tells him to kill him. After Rhaegar doesn’t, Aerys makes fun of him and calls him a coward.
So this retard had the perfect excuse to get rid of rhaegar when brandon came knocking on his door yet he chose to execute brandon and order more executions that would surely make 3 great houses rebel instead... bravo
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I feel good today. All my headcanons are validated, I had my finger on the pulse and my sight is true
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>>222134045
Based OP pic
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>>222134102
Aerys was a good father, all things considered
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This play will keep the theory youtubers going for a decade lmao
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Ashara fucks Ned while he's promised to Cat
>Doomed love...
Ashara fucks Brandon while he's promised to Cat
>WHAT A WHORE, A CUMRAG, SHE DESERVED TO DIEEE

What causes this
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>we love bastards in dorne
but they still expect dornish women to not have bastards, its only ok for the men. these shitskins brainwashed their women into accepting cheating under the guise of being open minden and progressive lol
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>>222134094
Slander against the Sword of the Morning and Gwayne Hightower must not be tolerated.
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How can the unambiguous hero of the story cause so much seethe?
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>>222134102
He wasn't ready to depose him at that point he had no support from the lords
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>>222134098
Yeah and N+A=J
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>>222134101
Kek I've heard nobody talk about Jon Con, even the retarded twitter fanbase forgot that he's supposed to be an important character in Rhaegars story
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>>222134098
it must hurt having all those headcannons for 15 years and having them swift dashed
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>>222134086
Because R+L=J is not canon he's probably fAegon or someone else
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>>222134075
I can't decide if Elia losing her victim status is a good thing or a bad thing.

Lyanna just comes off as a groomed, irrational teenage girl who was swept off her feet from the descriptions.
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>>222134109
Same. Feelsgoodman.
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>>222134168
>Elia losing her victim status
She didn't, if you think she did you are actually insane
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>>222134157
Their is already a fAegon.
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>>222134157
>Because R+L=J is not canon he's probably fAegon or someone else
Imagine the seethe if this was true
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>>222134133
>>222134075
the issue with Ashara isn't her romance being with Brandon, it's with her being the tourney bicycle
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APOLOGIZE IMMEDIATELY
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>>222134122
ASX had to live with Glidus and pay with his bussyhole due to a failing YT career with dwindling content
This day alone has guaranteed ASX's financial stability for the next 12 years
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darkstar vindicated, arthur dayne was a fag
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>>222134188
Pretending this is not canon is just cope.
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>>222134157
What do you get out of this? Give up dude
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>>222134152
The only person who thinks Jon Con is important to Rhaegars story is Jon Con. And Quinn the GM
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>>222134157
Are you retarded
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>>222134189
>it's with her being the tourney bicycle
What kind of deranged headcanon are you talking about?
Ned never fucked Ashara, he barely even thinks about her
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>Also, I did check, every banner was TWO LEG DRAGONS. I mean most of them were stylised with incredibly long tails, but I didn’t see a third or fourth foot anywhere
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>>222134045
more wine m'lord?
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I demand Hightower.mp4
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>>222134192
I kneel.
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Look I'm just going to pretend the play doesn't exist and refuse to incorporate any information from it into my personal canon
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>>222134168
>I can't decide if Elia losing her victim status is a good thing or a bad thing.
It's good. She's less of a flat character.
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>but I do want you to take a soul sucking job for scraps though, Hugh
>and I will lose my shit in a massive way one season from now if you try to better yourself
>and pretend I got raped n sheeit and blame it on (You)
>you love me, right Hugh??
These are the worst kind of women irl. I have dealt with this personally. Pump and dump and get as far away as possible. Also never have sex with a female fecaloid bros. It seems like a bad idea.
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>>222134143
Yeah because killing the heads/heirs of three great houses would earn him so much support. The only explanation for his actions is "he mad, deal with it"
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>>222134188
The play isn't canon
A+N=J
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>>222134133
with ned it would have been pure love of two good people torn apart by duty. but if its brandon she fucked then clearly she was just one of his conquests and she gave her maidenhead and honor away to a fuckboy
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>>222134231
it's not canon anyway
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>>222134217
While flirting with Ned, she's fucking Elia and Brandon and probably Moonboy too for all we know
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>>222134231
This is the only way.
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>>222134212
>And Quinn the GM
kek this
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>>222134231
What is so egregious in here that it conflicts with your headcanon

Let everyone lay it out perhaps we can reconcile it to the play
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>>222134201
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO ARTHURBROS
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>>222134236
Hugh deserved better, big ass Valyrian Chad dragonseed and he settled hard on this?
Poor guy.
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>>222134183
Yes the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar I literally just said this
Unless you're implying it's the babe that got killed in King's Landing by Gregor, or that R+L=J
Tell me anon, why would the bastard who is a spitting image of the Starks be a Targ son? Ned's genes are weak as fuck ironically since all but one of his kids are more Tully than Stark, are you implying Lyanna got lucky on her one and only kid?
Targ genes get passed over often enough but First Men genes are weaker than them
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>>222134252
>she was just one of his conquests
Have you considered she might have fallen in love the same way she fell for Ned? She literally KILLED HERSELF
The only thing that changes about her personality is that she now is a bad judge of character, she's no more or less whorish than she was before
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>>222134238
I'm talking about Rhaegar
Killing Aenys there would fuck his claim
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>>222134109
Same, the only thing I didn't already guess was that Rhaella was crazy and evil essentially
All the schizo theories were obviously retarded.
Especially with the early material there is no double twists.
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Would you plunge the realm into bloody civil war to have daily sex with Alicent and knock her up over and over?
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Somebody get these UNCLE FUCKERS out of here!!!
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>>222134122
>This play will keep the theory youtubers going for a decade lmao
David Lightbringer is gonna kill himself lol. Hundreds of hours of hos headcanon was just debunked by the play. Mad King Daenerys is also canon now so he's probably seething as we speak since he believes she's the hero of the story and she won't go mad like she did in the show. (He even had his fans brigade another YouTuber for DARING to insulate that Daenerys was a bad person)
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>>222134182
>backs Rhaegar's coup
>backs Rhaegar's grooming of Lyanna to satisfy his prophecytism
>after Rhaegar dies she tries to implement the Dornish Master Plan by declaring for Rhaenys instead of Aegon

Can you explain to me how she's still a victim?
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>>222134279
Ashara is in love with Elia, she hooked up with Brandon because she's a slut...
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>>222134192
too bad he killed the norfmen. he should have teamed up with bobby and ned against rhaegar
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>>222134201
>My overrated FAGGOT relative
>My retarded fraud of a SODOMITE relative
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>Lots of fight scenes for the war with extensive use of puppetry. Rhaegar has a dragon dream in the middle of the Trident which seemingly distracts him enough for Robert to kill him.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH baracucks this your victory?
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>>222134260
I personally don’t gaf about Ashara Dayne, total non-entity but the Bobby B slander that he only won due to Rhaegar having a seizure (sorry, a dream) will not be tolerated.
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>>222134278
>R+L=J
that is what I am implying yes
>>222134300
yes but only if she remained looking like your picture.
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>>222134300
Absolutely
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>>222134322
Yeah it’s over man
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>>222134310
>backs Rhaegar's coup
How is this not the most justified act in existance that if anything makes her innocent of all evils Aerys did? In fact it makes her even less deserving for the Lannister treatment
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>>222134231
>>222134254
Robert being portrayed in a good light is a clear indicator that GRRM wrote the story and not some blue haired modern "writer"
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Im noticing that all the girls in this play are insane
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>>222134279
just accept it, she was a slut. who knows who else she fucked. ned, rhaegar, ser gregor, aerys? the list is probably endless
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>>222134322
Sorry man, but it is true. You will just have to accept it.
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>>222134331
>that is what I am implying yes
I pray nobody else becomes as delusional as you, God knows we have enough retards believing this red herring
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>>222134353
GRRM knows.
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Rhaegar>the Mountain confirmed kek
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So now the biggest mystery left is what happened at Summerhall right? What do you think George will reveal to subvert our expectations on that? Did Aegon see some vision that made him intentionally try to kill his entire family?
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you just KNOW hugh is gonna try to be king to finally make his nagging wife happy
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>>222134363
give it a rest dany
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>fucked Brandon Stark
>fucked Elia Martell
>Non zero chance that she has a threesome with Elia and Rhaeghar too
Nedbros...
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>>222134122
I’ll be suprised if the YouTubers even continue with this series, they’re all danyfags, how are they going to reconcile their identities within the fandom, they are too prideful
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>>222134358
And even Moon Boy, for all we know
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>>222134376
Egg tries to hatch dragons by sacrificing Rhaegar, Dunk kills Egg, he goes up north and becomes Coldhands
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>She's been fucking Brandon and Elia Martell and probably Moonboy for I know
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>>222134343
It's justified, but she is still an active participant in the Game of Thrones
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>>222134368
We just keep winning.
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>>222134342
>>222134360
I’ll chalk it up to an unreliable narrator and go on about my day.
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was Arthur the top or bottom?
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I like this. It makes everything so much more tragic. Glad all the speculating is finally over. BRAVO GEORGE YOU DID IT AGAIN YOU OLD FAT BASTARD.
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>>222134388
JUST
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Will GRRM finally dust off his blog
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GENUINELY don't care about winds anymore. GRRM, what a writer you are.
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>arthur was a fag
>ashara was a slut
house dayne is a fuckin mess
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>>222134360
Eh. He still won. I’ll allow you your cope if it makes you feel better, I’m magnanimous. Congrats on the w
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>>222134442
ACK MY HEADCANNON SAVE ME PRESTON
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>>222134428
He was the Sword of the Morning
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Today's spoilers are unironically worse than if we never had any more content ever again
What the fuck Georgetown Hacktin
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>Brandon Stark is just some jock douche

I have the perfect casting choice
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>>222134444
You know who was COMPLETELY vindicated?
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>>222134444
Gay sons from major houses joining the kingsguard makes sense
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In hindsight it shouldn't be surprising that Grrm makes the greatest and most moral true knight in history into a homo, that is the kind of thing he would do
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>>222134444
Checked
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>>222134461
Its kino, you don't know anything.
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>>222134462
We already knew he was
Don't tell me you don't believe Petyr who is literally /ourguy/
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I'll tell you one thing, and I'm not afraid to say it. My estimation of Ashara Dayne, as a Lady? Just fucking plummeted.
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>>222134476
Name Arthur Dayne’s feats
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>>222134045
I agree with some of the anons from earlier. The little Tully shit is extremely annoying, and most of the Rivermen and the Northmen are extremely cringe. Makes me glad so many of them get raped and butchered by based Tywin and Gregor years later. And it's not just a team thing, because I don't think the Velaryons or the Arryns are annoying. It's just those Rivershits and Northcucks
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>>222134489
>HO! THERE HE IS!
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>>222134482
It went against everything that was previously established and accepted, only to appease the
>muh muh subversion
autism
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>>222134464
Based
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>>222134476
>greatest and most moral
>didn't kill Aerys
He was not the most moral. Oaths=/morality
And as for the greatest, we shall never know
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Why the fuck is Catelyn still thinking about Brandon? What the fuck is her problem? Could Ned ever catch a break?
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>>222134444
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>>222134506
The only based one was the guy who ate the fish in the dunk & egg tourney
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New Targs confirmed as harbringer of doom.
This is why GRRM is pushing King Bran. The new Builder. Jon will live with Catelyn (Stoneheart will kill the Corpse Queen of the Others who is the female Night King there in books 100%) and Val North.
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>the hottest girl is always a lesbian
>the best knight is always a fag
>the biggest hero always dies early

Its really getting cliche at this point
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>>222134506
Keep crying bitch nigga
Criston cuck is gone
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>>222134520
>Why the fuck is Catelyn still thinking about Brandon?
He's the one who got away, it's normal. She wouldn't have liked Brandon much if she actually married him and saw how much a cunt he was.
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>>222134512
How does it conflict with anything? What’s being subverted? People who weren’t compromised knew from a mile away Rhaegar was going to be the good guy.
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>>222134476
>moral
He did nothing as Aerys raped his wife every night.
He did nothing when Aerys burned Richard Stark alive when Rickard demanded a trial by combat
He did nothing when Brandon Stark was literally hung instead of being offered a fair trial during his trial by combat
Arthur Dayne was a mindless soldier that would've raped a village if Aerys or Rhaeghar told him to.
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>>222134512
Its like poetry, each point rhymes.
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>>222134530
I feel there are less lesbos than gays in this story
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>>222134520
Brandon was a jock, he was chad, he was the alpha
Ned and Benjen are brads, they are the betas

But in the end, only chuds remain, the sigmas. In the game of sigmas, you chud out or you die.
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>Arthur Dayne was gay.

Aaaa so that's why he was weak to backsho- i mean backstabs.
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Cat > Ashara
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>>222134045
>all schizo theories proven wrong
Lmao, the only so called double twist is Faegon and that's it.
Most of the core was written before subversions really took off, that's why the subversions are so basic and not overcomplicated.
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>>222134549
By nature of being a retarded fag with his head in the clouds and abducting another man's betrothed, never mind a 14 year old girl, and getting his entire family and his publically insulted wife murdered are all bad things
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>>222134586
Not according to GRRM!
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>>222134168
How isn't he a victim? She's trying to survive and make her children live and her husband is useless.
Jaime would have been a good husband. Shame.
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>>222134583
Explain
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>>222134530
Anon, part of the subversion is these people were flawed human beings and none of them really lived up to those titles, it's people 15 years later with rose tinted glasses, nostalgia

Ashara was not the most beautiful woman who ever lived, Arthur wasn't the best knight and Rhaegar was not a hero lol
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So is Lord Corlys officially kill or...?
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>>222134632
>Rhaegar was not a hero
Thought you could sneak that in, did you?
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>>222134520
poor ned. he should have married cersei
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>>222134526
>Jon will live with Catelyn
I like the theory that Jon fell in love with Ygritte and had a crush on Sansa because of his mommy issues stemming from Catelyn abusing him, which gave him a subconscious attraction to redheads.
Personality wise, Jon and Catelyn are also almost identical. They only hate each other because Catelyn thinks he's Ned's bastard. If Jon wasn't "Ned's son", they would get along quite well.
The fact that both of them also have as scarred hand that never heals, plus the fact that both of them are eventually resurrected after being betrayed is further proof of all the similarities they share.
https://youtu.be/WqcJMMWB_T4
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Completely and utterly vindicated today:
>Petyr Baelish
Brandon was really a dickhead and Petyr was really trying to save his oneitis from a life of infamy.
>Darkstar
Arthur Dayne was a cock slurping faggot and thus really overrated
>Robert
What the fuck do you mean Aerys gave him a broken ship and laughed at Steffon's death? The rebellion didn't come soon enough
>Tywin and Gregor Clegane
Elia would have been up to something if she was spared, she needed to GO
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>>222134648
Based on recent events, we can only draw one conclusion.
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>>222134310
>Rhaegar's grooming of Lyanna
Kill yourself troon (soon you will lol). You will never be a woman or a man. You're not just subhuman, but leagues below a household pet. Somewhere between a cockroach and a rat (definitely not as cool as a rat). The Night King's zombies are more worthwhile than you are because they used to be men, unlike (You).
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>>222134632
Without Rhaegar the Others kill everyone.
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reminder that we know how this story ends already, it's written in canon both by George and Joffrey outright saying specifically what happens to Rhaenyra in GoT with no ambiguity, so you can 100% expect the writers to pussy out and give her some level of dignity
>Rhaenyra says something girlboss and "YAAAAAAS KWEEN" worthy as an act of defiance
>slow, muted sounds of Sunfyre getting closer to her as she looks over to Aegon III
>close up shot of her face as she has flashbacks to her father while sad music plays because this is saaaaad you have to be saaaaad for her
>Rhaenyra closes her eyes and the screen cuts to black, don't show her getting eaten alive because she gets to preserve her "dignity" despite Aegon getting his dick burned off two seasons ago
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>>222134686
Calm down Rhaegar, have some milk of the poppy
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>>222134661
>>Robert
Thought you could sneak the biggest jobber in Westerosi history in there, did you?
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>>222134549
>oh ned and ashara liked each other
>syke she got pumped & dumped by Brandon
>oh Brandon loved Cat and fought a duel for her honor
>syke he pumped and dumped some tourney whore without second thought
>oh Rhaegar was a faggy prince who never liked killing and spend more time reading than training with a sword?
>syke he could actually solo Robert and only died because of a badly timed crutch
>oh everyone knew Aerys was mad and hateful and spiteful and paranoid?
>syke he was just a masterful banter cunt who ever offered to die so Rhaegar could take over
>oh Elia was a sweet and innocent victim of circumstances who did nothing wrong but paid the highest price?
>syke she actually was plotting everything from the beginning and was a co-author in Lyanna's grooming
>oh Lyanna got groomed and convinced to elope with Rhaegar over his obsession with the prophecy?
>syke it's actually Lyanna who got obsessed with her own visions and Rhaegar even told her to chill the fuck out
>oh Lyanna is a greenseer btw
>Oh Arthur dayne is gay btw
It's like you're being retarded on purpose
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Daeron is so cute. Pity he's going to die. I want him to be happy with Tessarion.
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>>222134681
>sensible chuckle
Good gif anon, I actually laughed a little bit.
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>>222134689
Mance rayder had that shit on lock, Jon is a helping hand at best
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>can joust better than knights
>is actually a greenseer and able to do more shit than bran, despite zero training from Bloodraven
>is a warg, doesn't train her brothers because reasons
>fine with Westeros burning and her family dying because muh prophecy
>rhaegar is just an emo clown, Lyanna pushed him to fight in the war
>elia is fine being cucked by her
she's now easily the most hateable character in the series, what a donut steel OC mary sue. She killed millions

why the fuck would Ned make a statue of this whore in the crypts?
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>>222134689
nah, Arya stabs the night king, it's cool
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>>222134701
I said he was vindicated
As for canon victories, the mountain and oberyn were added
>But rhaegar was seeing th-
One more reason why Targaryen aren't suited for manly things like battles
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>>222134223
GO FIND ME A PISS STRETCHER, BEFORE I BREASTPLATE MY SELF
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>>222134716
Arya would fuck off in essos forever if Jon didnt exist.
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>>222134702
The only issue here is Lyanna having more autonomy with regard to Rhaegar and her pushing the prophecy, the rest is just your inference being wrong
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>Y-you didn't really beat me I had a vision
more targ copes
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>>222134661
imagine watching your childhood crush falling for some asshole jock fuckboy and you know you have no chance against him but you still challange him to a fight. just to protect your waifu from a life of misery and frankly from herself. littlefinger was a hero
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George keeps digging his own grave deeper, now Jon really cannot solve the plot or else the message of the story becomes
>Actually killing billions to blindly follow prophecies is a GOOD thing
The more he adds to this prophecy stuff, the harder it becomes to write a finale
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>>222134310
>backs Rhaegar's coup
Aerys was literally insane and a ticking time bomb
>backs Rhaegar's grooming to satisfy his prophecytism
Stupid, yes
>after Rhaegar dies she tries to implement the Dornish Master Plan by declaring for Rhaenys instead of Aegon
How is this bad? She wasn't even usurping Aegon's claim here. Aegon is her son and he would've been Rhaenys' King. Why is rallying behind her children a bad idea? The only other sane option for a King died on the trident.

How exactly is she NOT a victim, anon. Nothing there justifies having her children murdered in front of her. Nothing justifies her being raped to death while forced to look at their corpses. You're actually fucking insane if you think she's not a victim.
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>>222133643
season 1 bran is icsh
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>>222134745
He disarmed Robert and asked him to yield, cope
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the Elia stuff actually fits well, she's another prime example of Martell retardation when it comes to plotting. Oberyn and Ned will get along well in the afterlife, both of them getting dragged into shit because of their retarded sisters
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is George just incapable of writing a healthy romantic relationship between two consenting adults? He comes off as a huge pervert
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>>222134737
>nothing conflicts with established speculations
>get proven wrong
>um no
jeet tier thought process
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>yfw that shitty prophecy fuck up Targayens only for Bran to become King
LMAOOOOOO. So well deserved. Their main character syndrome is out!!
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>>222134768
Oberyn got dragged in a way more similar to Brandon

Ned entered a rebellion when it was justified well beyond Lyanna at that point
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>>222134699
Only a retard (there isn't really a correct word, but let's go with that) could say Lyanna was "groomed." You will never experience the love of a woman, which is a good thing. That's why you keep thinking about grooming, because that's your only chance of losing your virginity. Pathetic scum. Project your closet pedo grooming fantasies somewhere else freak. ASOIF isn't the right material for you. It's for adults with feelings and non-retarded thoughts.
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Ned strongly encourages Brandon not to sleep with Ashara, and Ashara herself resists Brandon's attempts frequently. Brandon encourages Ned to go for her and briefly Ashara tries to seduce Ned, however Ned resists, criticising Ashara's separation of love and joy, saying that he is saving both for his future wife. Eventually Ashara and Brandon go ahead and Ned doesn't seem disappointed by this in anyway.

Based Ned and told Ashara “begone Thot”
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Here's our eddard stark bros....


y'know I really didn't care about the velaryons being raceswapped in HoTD but it actually makes no sense for them to have made Ned a black guy. I'm sure he's a fine actor but I don't see him as Ned at all lmao.
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>>222134776
These are not established speculations, this is your headcanon being wrong and you coping. I gave you the Lyanna greenseer stuff
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>>222134714
ned is in denial about the rest of his family. all his siblings were assholes. thank god he was sent to jon arryn at a young age
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>>222134757
>>Actually killing billions to blindly follow prophecies is a GOOD thing
Why would it inherently be a "good" thing? Not every story is a moral story you know, sometimes it just reflects the horror of life
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>>222134661
The Rebels as a whole were completed vindicated really. The Targareyens were a bunch of prophecy obsessed schizos. Ned can moralfag about Aegon and Rhaenys I think I've come around to agreeing it was best for them to die and extinguish the Targ line completely.

The maesters were also vindicated for hating the Targs and their bullshit.
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>>222134778
Anon the three eyed raven is bloodraven, it's STILL targ prophecy bullshit
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>>222134762
>disarmed Robert
>entire army surrounding them
>nobody sees this
lmao, this entire play was targwank. GRRM has apparently sold out because targshits sell more, the series went from being about the Starks to endless targ slop
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>>222134800
Go watch Alt Shift X and come back with an apology in hand otherwise don't reply to me you filthy curry muncher
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>>222134795
you just know that all these mutts have white british moms. i hate women
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>>222134802
And the horror of life is that we must kill billions following vague dreams so we will save humanity from aliens in the future? Because that's what the story will vindicate, and one of the reasons George is STUCK with the last books
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>>222134815
>lmao, this entire play was targwank
If that was the intention it didn't work because the Targaryens don't sound likable or sympathetic.
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>>222134757
> George keeps digging his own grave deeper, now Jon really cannot solve the plot or else the message of the story becomes
Probably because that’s all bullshit. Bran is going to end up the true savior that sent all that prophecy shit to put Westeros in a position where it could be saved by him. Bran’s the true hero. A crippled prince
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>>222134769
>is George just incapable of writing a healthy romantic relationship between two consenting adults?
Ned and Catelyn had a pretty healthy relationship outside of their disagreements about Jon. They both genuinely loved each other and both of them would've happily died so that the other could live. Catelyn's last thoughts during the Red Wedding are even about Ned. She thinks about her late husband and the affection he had for her as she is brutally murdered.

>It hurts so much, she thought. Our children, Ned, all our sweet babes. Rickon, Bran, Arya, Sansa, Robb… Robb… please, Ned, please, make it stop, make it stop hurting… The white tears and the red ones ran together until her face was torn and tattered, the face that Ned had loved. Catelyn Stark raised her hands and watched the blood run down her long fingers, over her wrists, beneath the sleeves of her gown. Slow red worms crawled along her arms and under her clothes. It tickles. That made her laugh until she screamed. “Mad,” someone said, “she’s lost her wits,” and someone else said, “Make an end,” and a hand grabbed her scalp just as she’d done with Jinglebell, and she thought, No, don’t, don’t cut my hair, Ned loves my hair. Then the steel was at her throat, and its bite was red and cold.— Catelyn Stark, Storm of Swords
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>>222134806
Bloodraven was turned into dust by night king remember
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>>222134792
holy fucking based volcel Ned not letting himself be corrupted by a Dornish whore. Ashara went from untouchable, mysterious maiden of a bygone era to just another slut. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>222134835
Idk bro look at religion, millions dying in fruitless wars over stories. You can show the horror and loss and irrationality of people, the cost on life. Having to have everything polarised into good or bad is an autism trait btw
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>>222134618
Martin wrote most of the old lore in the early 1990's. He was subverting the tropes of early fantasy. It's also from his earliest material which was least "gardend"
GRRM is not writing while thinking about tricking high minded readers scaning everything. Most of his twists and set ups are clearly telegraphed so that the average reader has the ability to pick up on it and be happy that they noticed it when the lay off happens (like the night lamp).
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>>222134769
Ned and Catelyn
Sam and Gilly
Jaime and Brienne (borderline)

He prefers to write conflicted characters and a big part of that is them being unfulfilled romantically.
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>>222134648
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>>222134861
Wrong, the body of Brynden was turned to dust. Bloodraven is Bran now.
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I've come away thinking most of the reveals of this play where better off as permanent mysteries
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Why did Larys tell Aegon that he's a terrible man? Aegon was actually really nice and trying to be a good king
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>>222134869
>irrationality
Nigga if it stops the Other its not irrational, that's my point
If this all leads to saving humanity, then the story is arguing that actually these schizos were right
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>>222134277
Even as a basic bitch smithy, he could do a lot better. I know the show likes to treat all small folk like they are the same, but a skilled smithy is easily worth more than a knight or two. A castle needs guards, but every guard needs weapons and armor
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where's sunfyre?
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>oh ned and ashara liked each other
People only speculate that Ashara is Jon’s mother. Ned never reminisces about her. Catelyn reminisces about Brandon.
>>oh Brandon loved Cat and fought a duel for her honor
>>syke he pumped and dumped some tourney whore without second thought
Brandon fighting a duel for Cat’s honour is your inference. It’s already been established Brandon was a womaniser. George says he may have fathered bastards.
>>spend more time reading than training with a sword
It’s established that Rhaegar trained to be a warrior.
>>syke he was just a masterful banter cunt who ever offered to die so Rhaegar could take over
Doesn’t conflict with him being mad.
>>syke she actually was plotting everything from the beginning and was a co-author in Lyanna's grooming
The previous characterisation of Elia is based on nothing. This fits with being Doran’s sister.

I agree with the Lyanna stuff. Rest is on you.
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>>222134769
>>222134873
Jon and Ygritte is also tragic but they have a really cute thing going on
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>>222134826
You’re clearly unhinged I shouldn’t have bothered
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>>222134889
Arbitrary king, not a just king, hedonistic Vs dutiful. He's right, but he wouldn't have even thrown his lot in with Aegon if he didn't think he had potential. It's a tough love scene
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>>222134894
>then the story is arguing that actually these schizos were right
It doesn't argue that they're right, it argues that prophecy can inadvertently be true even if you're a fucking retard
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>>222134804
kek, even fucking Rhaella went from innocent victim forced into marriage with Aerys to another demented schizo who wants the world to burn
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>>222134889
I would've liked the contrast that Aegon is actually kind of in touch and sympathetic to the common people even if he isn't a great king in contrast to Rhaenyra and Daemon and everyone else not giving a shit about them. Of course they fucked that from the start by having him be a drunken rapist who likes watching orphan children (his own bastards sometimes) fight to the death.
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>>222134889
Its one fucking instance of him being a retard. Get over it.
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>>222134887
They were, cause the most straight forward thoughts were all proven correct.
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>>222134901
hes dead, just accept it
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>>222134903
>It’s established that Rhaegar trained to be a warrior.
But we never hear of him being skilled, Jaime was literally training with him and NOT ONCE does he say he was a formidable fighter. Barristan never says it, nobody ever thinks it
Thousands witnessed Robert smashing his chest in, NOBODY mentioned him disarming Robert

This is NOT internally consistent, this is stupid
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>>222134894
Not their fault everyone violently opposed the only way to save everything
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Preston is gonna be pissed that Lyanna wasn't groomed.
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>"Robert is portrayed very sympathetically and is actively grieving his parents. At one point Aerys gifts him a model of his parents ship, which is just some splinters in a box of water."
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>>222134933
>even if you're a fucking retard
So, you were not a retard, as you correctly predicted your actions would save the world.
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>>222134939
Honestly I like the Rhaella change, it's way more interesting than I would have thought.
That's why it's the biggest reveal from rhe play.
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>>222134915
Jon fucks her under threat of death the first time and every time after that feels insane self-loathing and guilt about breaking his vows but still enjoying it because he's a horny 15 year old. It's one of the most fucked up relationships in the series
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>>222134956
wasn’t robert injured
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>>222134956
>But we never hear of him being skilled
Rhaegar is described as being extremely talented and good at anything he set his mind to. When he decided to become a warrior he was good at it.
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I really liked the theory that Aerys hated the Knight of the Laughing Tree and he wanted to kill him. So Rhaeghar went to investigate, found out it was Lyanna, and then fell in love with her, which is why he crowns her the love of beauty later. He also vows to protect her from Aerys.

I really like the theory that Aerys found out about Lyanna's identity as the mystery knight and so he wanted to kill her, but Rhaeghar saved her.

I really liked the fan theory that Littlefinger spread a false story that Rhaeghar kidnapped Lyanna so that Brandon would ride to King's Landing, make a fool of himself, and then get killed.

I really liked the fan theory that Lyanna was enamoured with Rhaeghar at first, but she grew to dislike him and wanted to leave him after realizing how insane and prophecy obsessed he was.

I really liked the theory that Ashara and Ned were starcrossed lovers who could never be together because of duty.

Shame that none of that is canon now.
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>>222134896
Ser Hugh needs to see this thread, it's full of guys who'd love to be Lady Hammer.
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>>222134972
Bobby B 1000% justified in killing all targshits, not sure what the fuck Ned's problem was. I'd have left Jon in that tower to die
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>>222134972
picture the madlad laughing his ass off by himself while hes preparing the gift for bobby. he was a funny guy
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>>222134991
>Rhaegar is described as being extremely talented and good at anything he set his mind to.
(by Barristan)
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>>222134997
>my headcanon is not canon and now I’m sad
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>>222134997
>I really liked the fan theory that Littlefinger spread a false story that Rhaeghar kidnapped Lyanna so that Brandon would ride to King's Landing, make a fool of himself, and then get killed.
it's a bad theory because Littlefinger was still an innocent boy who believed in songs and fairy tales at that point
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>>222134991
I guess Jaime, Barristan and company simply forgot to mention who was apparently the greatest fighter in the history of westeros then
Must have mogged them HARD in the training yard, so embarrassing they never mention it and Jaime never thinks about it in his internal monologue, ever. The trauma of Rhaegar beating his ass must have deleted the memory from existance
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>>222134997
>Shame that none of that is canon now.

It never was retard
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>>222135001
>"huuuuuuuuuuuuuugh the ANVIL is ready for POUNDING"
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>>222134982
Ned says he "took a wound" but it was so minimal that he sent his healer to Barristan first and he arrived at King's Landing a few hours after ned
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>>222134889
He's nice enough, but he's full of vice, and his pride was ultimately his undoing. Clubfoot said nothing wrong. Still tho, you have to kinda feel bad for him. Like you said, he was clearly trying to be a good king. And I feel like maybe he could have been if his right to the crown was not heavily contested, and he just got to rule in a time of peace. Maybe he could have grown into the role and become a better man. But having to deal with a civil war when he is as badly experienced and trained to lead a kingdom as he was was just a recipe for failure
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>>222135019
Well yeah, Barristan is a good warrior himself so if he said Rhaegar was good it's probably true
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>>222134997
Maybe you should get a hobby>>222135025
>Littlefinger was still an innocent boy who believed in songs and fairy tales at that point
He's a little incel narc, you don't magically become that
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>>222135021
>my headcanon is not canon and now I’m sad
Yeah, because those theories were kino and thematics consistent with the setting
>>222135029
>who was apparently the greatest fighter in the history of westeros
That would've been Arthur and Barristan according to GRRM
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>>222135029
>Jaime, Barristan and company simply forgot to mention who was apparently the greatest fighter in the history of westeros then
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Anon. Are you really suggesting the Red Wedding was comeuppance from an event that took place 170 years earlier?
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>>222135052
>That would've been Arthur and Barristan according to GRRM
Well since Rhaegar can only lose via prophetic vision apparently grrm was wrong
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i think barristan was gay too, fucking rhaegar fanboy
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>>222134889
>Why did Larys tell Aegon that he's a terrible man?
He objective is. He's a poor son, husband, and father. He's not actively malevolent but filled with weakness and vice.
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>>222135039
If the show had been logical and consistent, Otto would have groomed him and educated him for the position as Ormund is going for Daeron.
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>hurr durr just let the mystery be

Nah fuck off. I'd 100% rather know the author's truth than some JJ Abrhams mystery box lazy trash. George is based and sticks by his work.
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Rhaegar getting a vision so he gets BTFO actually perfectly aligns with the time travelling Bran theory.
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>>222134970
Its because Preston is a mega liberal, his perspective is tainted by perpetuating a moral status quo with little further nuance
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>>222135011
Funny *how*, ser? Do I amuse you?
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>>222134762
Proof?
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>>222135080
Barristan was an Ashara simp, he reminisces about wishing he could experience Brandon's sloppy seconds
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>>222135110
GURM is also a mega liberal. Targs are supposed to be pedo nazi schizo groomers, but I guess he grew to love his own creations.
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>>222135110
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>>222135123
>he reminisces about wishing he could experience Brandon's sloppy seconds
Just like Ned
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>>222135047
>Well yeah, Barristan is a good warrior himself so if he said Rhaegar was good it's probably true
Anon's point is that Barristan is a serial liar. This is what Barristan had to say about Aegon and Rhaenys' corpses being presented to Robert.
>If I had seen him smile over the red ruins of Rhaegar’s children, no army on this earth could have stopped me from killing him.
This is what he says to Daenerys. But he wouldn't have done shit. He served Robert like a good cuck for almost 2 decades. The dude is a fucking coward and a liar
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I kind of feel bad for Alicent's actress. She just sits in the same room talking to the same people about the same things. Is it any wonder her scenes are the worst scenes?
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>>222135110
most of those shitty content creators and theorists are like that, i've never seen so many male feminists involved in anything
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>>222135123
I'm sure you've never found a woman attractive in your life anon
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>>222135049
>incel
I don't think you know what that word means
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DARKSAAR WILL REDEEM HOUSE DAYNE
BELIEVE IT
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>"Robert wins the melee at Harrenhal, beating Oberyn and The Mountain. The Mountain is played by multiple actors as he is entirely a puppet and about 8 ft tall."
Sounds novel.
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>>222135049
>incel
Lysa Tully literally raped him like a month before Brandon Stark was killed. How can you be an incel if a woman literally rapes you?
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>>222135011
>>222135114
>treat tywin like shit after decades of loyal service
>mock your own cousin's death on a mission he was doing in your service
>be shocked you get overthrown
my main issue is why the fuck didn't Aerys use the opportunity Brandon Stark gave him to get rid of Rhaegar and his dornish spawn?
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>>222135144
They get demonetized and canceled unless they kowtow, they’re also mindbroken
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>>222135146
sure as hell cumming in his smallclothes for brandon tho
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>Bloodraven during all of this
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>>222135103
It's headcannon remorse. People get really invested that their imagined version of the story is the true one, when new info comes out that contradicts it they aren't gonna react well

It happens in a lot of long-running stories like One Piece, Naruto, Harry Potter, Wheel of Time etc fans had meltdowns when headcannons were proved wrong
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>>222135141
The character has overstayed her welcome.
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>>222135214
God what a fucking author's pet, worse than lyanna even now that we know she was le magical
Until raventree hall is burned down and every single blackwood slaughtered I will know no rest
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>>222135141
She's now an assassins creed
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The most kino scene in the whole series thus far is the Raymun Fossoway knighting, don’t @ me unless you’re posting webm
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>>222135146
I'm a Cersei chad myself
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There's a difference between "mystery boxes" and "these symbols mean absolutely nothing".
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>>222135249
But she gets fat in the later books
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>>222135249
Would you fuck the Lady Melisandre in her youthful form if it meant you also had to fuck her in hag form?
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>>222135249
Ceresei's chapters are funny, I would let her ruin my life
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>>222135272
She’s the most entertaining part of S8 too aside from Dany going full Hitler in the finale
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>>222135272
Your life isn't worth ruining.
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>>222135270
sure, it's an acceptable deal
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aerys sounds very similar to ralph
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>>222135102
True, but there is only so much you can do with a drunken lout nepobaby who expects to do nothing with the rest of his life but to drink and whore his way through every serving girl he gets his hands on. It's like trying to teach a horse proper table manners. He probably just figured it would be easier to play puppet master as The Hand
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>>222135270
>Would you fuck the Lady Melisandre in her youthful form if it meant you also had to fuck her in hag form?
Hell no. Her beautiful form is literally an illusion. So you're ALWAYS fucking the hag form, just like Stannis unknowingly was.
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>>222135290
See, she would say that, but deep down she's so petty she would specifically target me
Remember how fucking much she SEETHES at Bronn for naming his son Tyrion? So much she sends people to kill him and seethes EVEN MORE when they fail
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>>222135195
You’re asking why the insane king didn’t do something logical?
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>>222135195
Rhaegar was still his son
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>>222135311
Rhaegar was just a sad emo manipulated by a Dornish and Northern whore. Makes him even more pathetic than if he was a gigachad shaming his wife with no remorse and grooming a tomboy for prophecy breeding purposes
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>>222135272
its scary, i know she would cheat, scheme and do fucked up things and my life would be miserable with her but i would still marry her. shes so perfect bros...
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So Aerys was right about everything?
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Is this play canon
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For every good man there is an evil cunt trying to ruin him
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>>222135297
>So what? They were fucking northmen. 100k dragons a piece. My kid is in dorne fucking lyanna!
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>>222135372
>>222135372
Petyr Baelish and evil Catelyn reference
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>>222135366
It's canon until GURM writes some other bullshit that contradicts it
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>>222135325
>insane
>except when he apparently was playing 4D chess and knew every scheme against him and mocked Rhaegar to his face about it
make up your mind
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>Sack of KL is almost the same as the books. After Jaime kills Aerys and sits the throne, Robert & his men enter from one side of the stage, Tywin & Cersei from the other. Big canon contradiction since Robert isn’t present here in the books.
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>>222135365
When he said "BURN THEM ALL, BURN THEM ALL" he was actually talking about the White Walkers.
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>>222135366
This, we know it contraddicts canon material as Lyanna was last seen a horse
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>>222135392
>Rhaegar hurting Robert badly enough to stall is retconned

Rhaegarbros… our only feat
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>>222135365
dornish genocide is 100% justified, yes. They are all traitorous schemers and sexual deviants
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>>222135392
Why would Cersei be there
Did Tywin just decided she should do some tourism on the battlefield?
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ARTHUR DAYNE WAS AN ASS MUNCHER
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>>222135392
So it's not canon.
Great we can all move on
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>>222135392
This is enough for me to declare it non-canon
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Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGkvAy_wnZ4
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ARTHUR DAYNE WAS A TOP ACTUALLY
NOT REALLY GAY
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>>222134197
Lmao that ASX guy must be raking in 1 million a year with his monotone vids
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>>222135455
It was a different time.
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Ned/Asharabros...our doomed romance
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>>222135433
Is that right? After so long I'd gotten used to regarding him as an asexual weirdo who became Rhaegar's closest friend because of mutual autism.
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>>222135395
Holy shit
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>>222135444
I’ve been saying this. Not written? Not canon.
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>>222135395
No he wasn't
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Targaryen deserve to rule the Seven Kingdoms provided they lack dragons

That's my controversial opinion
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>>222135467
Ned and Ashara had a "romance" in the same vein as you and your high school Stacy did
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>>222135467
Ned literally never thinks about her, people who thought there was anything there were delusional
He just pitied Ashara because Brandon left her in deep shit and didn't even have the decency to stay alive
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>>222135469
It's interesting that two of Rhaegar's closest friends (Dayne and Connington) were part of the anal brotherhood
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>>222135485
Your shitpost detector needs repair.
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What we’ve learned is that Winds will be hated if it ever comes out
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>>222135416
He never badly hurt robert. Reminder that robert asked maester to patch up sir barristan first straight after trident. It doesn't sound like someone in immediate need of medical aid
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seriously what the FUCK was in that letter that stoped the dornish genocide back in them days? fuckin aegon was a pussy
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>>222135501
Hated by retards who get btfo
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>>222135508
>aliens
I'm reopening the Targ Files.
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>>222135508
Shoulda gone for the kill shot with
>The only honourable thing a Targayen can do for the realm is finish on his sister's tits
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>>222135467
its tragic. she was just another cumdumpster for chad... why couldnt she chose ned
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>>222135511
>I've sent my cousin to Braavos, he's speaking with the faceless men, you have 1 month to relent before we end your genetic line
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>>222135511
>seriously what the FUCK was in that letter that stoped the dornish genocide back in them days?
I like the headcanon theory that Rhaenys was still alive in Dorne, and that when Aegon torched Dorne, believing he was avenging her, he actually killed her, and the grief and guilt of this reveal was so great, that Aegon lost all appetite for war because he'd accidentally murdered the love of his life. That would explain why Aegon was basically mindbroken and sobbing after he read the letter.
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I guess the kingsguard wear white to hide the cum stains after their faggot gay orgies
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>>222135493
He literally states he's gone years and years without thinking about Rhaegar, either, the supposed father of Jon
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You're telling me if you could fuck your sister and ride a dragon you wouldn't be doing that shit
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>>222135570
Well yes, he didn't want to fuck Rhaegar either, he's not joncon
Your point being?
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>>222135570
>the supposed father of Jon
Let it go.
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>>222135575
The funny part is the AI made blackRhaena look more attractive
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>>222135566
>Jaime thought he was the weird one for the business with his sister
>He saw Gerold Hightower plowing Arthur's Dayne's ass the first day on the job
>so traumatized he lost his faith in knighthood
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>>222135597
What house do you belong to to be saying that shit
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>>222135621
>What house do you belong to to be saying that shit
Dayne
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>arthur dayne the fag of the morning
its over
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>>222135620
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>>222135620
Gerold was a gaytower so it checks out
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>>222135640
>nicknamed "the white bull"
It was literally under our noses the whole time
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>>222135635
Does this mean Darkstar is a faggot of the night?
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>>222135250
If I was to attempt a total psude interpretation, I would say the spiral could represent the sun, and the bisected circle could represent the moon. But it's also clear that that's not just a circle, because of the deliberately placed heads and other body parts outside of it. And also, you have to realize that the only reason the whites would lay out those symbols in corpses is because they want them to be noticed.

So, it's obviously some message they are trying to convey to the people south of the wall. They just d on't understand that the people south of the wall forgot the meaning of the old glyphs. I just keep looking at that top cave glyph and thinking that it looks like some kind of solar system map. There is the great big swirl in the middle, and then all these different circles around it at different distances, and there is even a circle that looks like it's indicating another circle spinning around that. So perhaps they are trying to use the ancient first men astrological symbolism to indicate a certain specific date. Perhapse trying to either give them some deadline, or just telling them "time is up"
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Imagine being a Tyrell and giving a single fuck about King's Landing when you got this
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>>222135390
> except when he apparently was playing 4D chess and knew every scheme against him and mocked Rhaegar to his face about it
Because Varys is good at his job. Aerys making one good political pick doesn’t make him smart
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>>222135575
targ women are massive sluts for their brothers. when youre 14-15 and theres a horny hot blonde stacy throwing herself at you theres not much you can do to resist. really, i blame targ women for all this incest
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>>222135658
Darkstar thought Arthur was a fag and he just got vindicated
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Mandon moore was gay for vardis egen and tried to avenge him
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So that's why Ser Loras joined...
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>>222135686
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>>222135697
>blonde
They have white hair
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>NO, I WILL NOT DIE AS A FAGGOT OR A VIRGIN LIKE MY BROTHERS OF KINGS GUARD, I WILL DIE FIGHTING FOR BIG TITTY LATINAS
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>>222135686
Power
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>>222135730
You got a larger army than the second and third strongest kingdoms combined after you
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>>222135684
If I were to come up with an interpretation, I'd have it be a ritual weakening whatever magic prevents the perma-winter.
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>>222135686
>highgarden
>oldtown
its so unfair that the reach has everything, meanwhile the norf is a run down frozen shithole and the iron islands are basically shadow over insmouth tier
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>>222135686
bruh look at this dude
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>gay
>RAPE
>pedo shit
george....can we get some diversity in your character trauma?????
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>>222135725
Silver-gold is the correct term whatever that means in modern terms
Platinum blonde is the closest from what I can tell
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>>222135729
Cole, Jaime, Arys.
Men who fought against the system, men who knew pussy was the only way
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>every single Dornish character besides Doran and Quentyn is either a faggot or bisexual
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Robert could never beat Rhaegar in a fair 1v1 btw
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> Kinda isn’t though? I mean we don’t see Aegon, and it’s even established that Varys has regular access to the kids when even Elia doesn’t. It’s not mentioned, but I’d say the play pretty specifically sets stuff up such that the baby swap is entirely possible

Looks like Young Griff could still be Rhaegar’s son
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>>222135748
This is not canon
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I say Darkstar, you say sorry!
DARKSTAR
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>>222135729
this is why you shouldnt let heterosexual men join the kingsguard
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>>222135780
Darkstar?
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>>222135740
It’s always never enough
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>>222135745
>>oldtown
Yeah that's even better lmao
Reach is OP
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Did they show the Mountain kill Elia Martell?
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>>222135792
Cope
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>Lyanna does not hate Robert and their relationship is shown to be friendly, at least at Harrenhal. She comforts him after the boat thing. He is very charismatic so she gets the appeal, but she loves Rhaegar.
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>>222135799
AIEEEE SORRY DARKSTAR SAMA
I DIDN'T KNOW
I BELIEVED IN ARTHUR DAYNE, NOW I KNOW HE WAS A FRAUD AND YOU ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN DORNE
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>Ashara loves Elia, but she loves Brandon too. While she’s dancing with Ned, she talks to him about having multiple lovers.
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>>222135807
Oldtown seems like the best place by far to live in Westeros
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>>222135508
>TARGARYEN FUCKING SHITS
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>>222135824
>She comforts him after the boat thing
How the FUCK was Robert supposed to know she was just being friendly? Women always do this, fucking retarded gender
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>>222135742
I considered that maybe it was a ritual. But it makes no sense that the first men would draw the whites secret weapon ritual glyphs on a cave wall. And when you look closely, you can see that the cave gliphs are a more complete version of the spiral, because it also shows one of the arms extending out further, similar to a super massive solar flare or something
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So is the play over yet or what
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>>222134045
God, I wish that I still cared about this show. I long for those GoT days, when spring arriving meant a new season of GoT to get hyped for. I just couldn't hang with HotD. S2 was too boring, and I haven't even bothered with Knight or HotDS3.
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>>222135799
its up to darkstar now to redeem house dayne
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>>222135832
I mean I'm pretty sure it canonically is, hence why every institution decided to put up shop there
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>>222135807
>Euron will ruin this
I fucking hate Ironborn so much its unreal bros
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>>222135686
reminder that this place is controlled by some faggot no name sellsword now who probably turned it into a whorehouse
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>>222135832
George also agrees
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>>222135821
ser gregor is played by an 8-foot tall puppet anon
. . .
i sure as hell *hope* they showed it
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>>222135877
This is why Winds not releasing is good
>>222135889
Trust the process. Hightowers and co. will grape him and replace them with like house Oldflowers
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>>222135877
The new leaks make me think dany is going to destroy oldtown, and the Cersei sept of baelor thing was inspired by that. The prophecy about taking arms against the dragon, dany bringing “vengeance”, and the maesters being hinted at killing dragons and targs
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>>222135877
>implying he won't get send to orbit team rocket style by being kicked by old town secret mecha godzilla controlled by leyton hightower
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I'm so sick of this shit. Give me GoT s1 to s5 and /dunk/ and I'm good. I can't do more Alicent
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Euron's entire plotline feels like it belongs in a different time period.
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>>222135912
Dany has the Hightowers named in houses which were extremely loyal to Targaryens

That maester theory is fanfiction
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NEW THREAD >>222135931

NEW THREAD >>222135931

NEW THREAD >>222135931
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>>222135933
It belongs in a different book
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>"Lyanna is also confirmed greenseer and communicates with Rhaegar via dreams, that’s how they plan their elopement. Benjen helps them."
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>Aenys I died to poison
>Baelor I may have been poisoned by Viserys
>Joffrey died to poison
>Jon Arynn died to poison
>Strongly implied that Tywin was poisoned by Oberyn
>Aegon II died to poison
>Daenerys was almost poisoned
>Melisandre only survived a poisoning attempt because of literal magic
Why is it so easy to poison Kings and Lord Paramounts in ASOIAF
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>>222135877
I have bad news for you, probably maybe. GRRM wouldn't waste so much time and POV characters on the Greyjoys for them to end up doing literally nothing like they do in the show. At least I hope anyway
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>>222135936
Maybe they are one of the betrayals
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>>222135962
The Hightowers are currently more likely to betray the Tyrells
That would mean a double betrayal
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>>222135961
>Quentyn Martell in your path
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>>222135877
Don't worry, Aegon and friends will save them and solidify him as the new king
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>>222135932
GoT ends at S4 for me.

>Jon successfully holds off Mance from overtaking Castle Black
>Stannis garrison's the Wall to stand watch against the White Walkers, and rallies the North to take out the Boltons.
>Arya escapes the Hound, and travels to Braavos to become a Faceless Man
>Jaime has his redemption arc and becomes a more honorable and humbled man
>Tyrion gets his vengeance against Tywin, and escapes to Essos
>Twywin's death essentially defangs the Lannister dynasty for good
>Tommen and Margery become fairly benevolent rulers of the realm
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>>222136088
>Arya escapes the Hound, and travels to Braavos to become a Faceless Man
Decent enough ending for every other character. But I would have much preferred if Arya just stayed with the Hound. I feel like those 2 xharacters just perfectly foiled against each other, and I could imagine themboth learning a lot from each other and growing, as they maybe come to have the same shared goals of seeing all the people who hurt both of them dead
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>>222134520
When has Cat ever thought about brandon?
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>>222134653
She's going to accept him as a son (not of blood, but same fire as both are going to be fire undead zombie) when he helps her children to ascend to the throne. He always wanted a mother.
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>>222134850
>>222134757
The emphasis Bran is named after Bran the Builder and Targshits being destructive forces, is that they are all going to raze Westeros and he'll be the one doing the Rebuilding as King.
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>>222134882
It's not Bran, it's a collective of Westeros, children, and Bran too, who is the main 'adm'. He made the ultimate Manager. Bloodraven's magic bullshit is less targ shit and more weirdwood shit so.
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>>222135214
He's sending visions to Targs and Lyanna like Professor X mindraping people for shits and giggles. He got mad the ungrateful targts sent him to the Wall.



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