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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-112

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Previous
>>483322132
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god damn the story has been butchered beyond repair. The retcons. So many retcons. So much fart huffing by Miyazaki. It's so bad. Miq had his boi-pussy filled as part of a master plan. like legit. they went there. holy fuck.
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>>483326461
If you want to drop 90+ poise damage with two big swings its good, the damage is fine to good.
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>no new way to farm bewitching branches in the Miquella DLC
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what at the best/most fun STR weapons? including all sizes

i want to switch to a STR build soon
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>>483332807
does st trina have an actual poonani or is she a "she"
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>>483332991
>he was playing for the story
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the sidequests are so fucking shit jesus christ
you ride too close to a castle and miquellas asshole hymen breaks and bricks all characters dialogue because you should've known it randomly happens and fuck you
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Someone talk me down from cheesing him. Please.

>hour 7 of dying
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*wins*
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There are literally no retcons wtf. The story just didnt align with your shitty headcanon
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Post your favorite DLC weapon NOW!
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>can just crouch Midra's spinny attack
kino fight
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>co-op fags do nothing but spam l2 and spells
>watching them get visibly mad when they can't dodge swift slash
It's gonna get nerfed but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy it.
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>>483333145
She's a half plant abomination.
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Someone please tell me the Dragon Priestess spirit ashes suck so I don't have to do the DLC again
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can someone please help me with bayle the dread on pc?
i can't summon anyone most of the time and when i can they die earlier than me...
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>>483333141
Basically any Colossal or Great Hammer will be really strong
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messmer had like 2000 years and stillcouldn't wipe out bonney village?
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>>483333284
Milady
not even close
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Sleep or madness?
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Radahn is parriable
I'm gonna win now
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what did miyazaki mean when he said the dlc had has many endings as the main game
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For a very heavily arcane focused character with a minor in dexterity, what should I infuse second set of Raptor Talons with? First ones are Occult. Poison?
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>This fixes the game for 5 minutes
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>>483333286
this nigga would be a 10/10 fight if he didn't threw so much mustard in your eyes
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>>483333284
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Is it possible to play a majority healer build if I summon fwiends?
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>>483333259
Who the hell even is this nigga and where the fuck do you find him?
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>>483333259
I won't. I also shield poked him to death.
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>>483332660
>cool lore
>cool design
>cool fight
>actual VA with cutscenes
>a lot of build-up
>genuine character
In retrospect I'm glad he doesn't get dragged into the Miquella bullshit so he doesn't get damaged by the radiation
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>>483333406
He means that they planned for the DLC to have as many endings as the main game, but ran out of time.
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>>483333259
think of how good it will feel if you kill him without cheesing
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>>483332991
You're really suffering from brainrot. All of you absolute faggots literally just making shit up and acting like this is the actual story. Miquella's story is about finding someone to help fix the world. It's not about your gay pedo fantasies. Grow up.
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>>483333259
>hour 7 of dying
I resort to mimic if I can't beat a boss in like ten tries and I can see no way of getting good at it.
Gone are the days of banging my head against a wall so anons on the internet won't call me a shitter. I don't even care anymore.
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>>483333481
there's nothing to heal because the only danger is one shot combos
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>level 6 chud fragments
>red bear field boss still 2 shots me
When will it end
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Enjoy your pvp while you can, it's going to be a ghostland in a week.
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thoughts on The Poison Flower Blooms Twice or whatever the fuck it's called?
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>Commander Gaius
what the fuck
how do i survive his charge
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>>483333284
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>>483333412
Bleeeeeeeeeed
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>beat radahn before I figured out how to get to this area
It can’t be more bullshit than that was
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>>483333396
really? you can parry prime radahn but you can't parry him when he's a half-dead retard eating sand?
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>>483333284
Fire Knight's Greatsword
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Somebody explain to me why people were saying Messmer was the best designed boss in Elden Ring. Cause so far I've experienced:
>Broken camera with him flipping the fuck around like a lunatic
>One shot attacks (Yes I'm 60 vigor)
>Absurdly deceptive attack ranges
>Boss interrupting if you do anything
>Ability to dodge attacks mid-hitstun (like Malenia)
The only thing that seems less obnoxious about him compared to other bosses is that he has a smaller health pool and that's it. Is it just spectacle? What am I missing? Has my brain been fried by the retarded boss design of the DLC and now I can't recognise an actually quality boss fight?
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>>483333284
Madness Perfume and Messmer's Spear
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I am looking for any help possible here. I have no fucking idea why but I am 95% locked out of playing online. I can't play with any of my friends, none of them can see my summon sign, I also can (almost) never get summoned even by pubs

>SL150
>Rune on (idk if that matters)
>tried removing the sign and putting it back after relogging a billion times
>download region in steam is set to west coast USA or some generic shit like that
>all settings in-game are as open as possible, everything active, game confirms I'm online
>restarted router/modem

I really have no idea what to do, all my other friends can play just fine with each other. NO ONE can see my summon sign, I left it 30 mins in front of mesmer which is a pretty damn hot-spot for summons and nothing.

Does anyone have any ideas?
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I FUCKING HATE RASHAKA FUCK YOU STUPID KATANA NIGGER
fuck it I'm nuking him like any pvpfag it's my mistake to treat this like a boss fight instead of ancient death rancor target practice
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NAME ONE (1) RETCON, ILL WAIT
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oh yeah its fucking gaming time
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>>483333623
who is this and why should I care
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>>483333696
It's not prime Radahn. And he's huge when you fight him earlier and you can't parry colossal weapons.
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I think I know where Torrent came from. He's an artificial life form either created by Marika or Miquella, or by someone else,
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>>483333623
Not this time, faggot. I got a PS5 as a gift and will not be denied the pleasures of bullying Sonygros.
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>>483333723
>>One shot attacks (Yes I'm 60 vigor)
collect more scrombungles
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>>483333534
Not only that but he actually means something to the lore while the entirety of miquellas story means absolutely FUCK all to the main game.
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>>483333734
Are you banned? iirc people who get penalized get put in a pool only with other people who are penalized
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>>483333654
Anon, they have innate bleed, are infused with occult, and I have a boatload of arcane. I bleed people out with one R2+R2 combo.
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>>483333623
how is this thing even gonna work with skibidi fragments
seems like a nightmare
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>>483333623
pvp was already dead, or have you been living under a rock?
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>>483333562
nigga, the DLC makes it so Miq seduced Mohg. People who like this shit are the pedos. "No officer, the little child seduced me". Like, the person who wrote the DLC obviously stole from really shitty hentai comics. Also, bringing back Radahn is the dumbest shit ever. Did they forget he was driven mad by the scarlet rot?

fucking japs can't write worth a damn.
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Is katana supposed to be OP in duels?
Everyone is running them
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>>483333723
The issue is half the things you said are outright wrong. Hope that helps.

Also, if you hate the game you should drop it.
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just beat the dlc, every remembrance obtained, every boss im aware of. don't sleep on those thrusting shields, theyre insane.
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>>483333834
I'm already at skibidibobbidi level 11. Am I meant to be maxed for this?
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>>483333789
This looks like 2005 in the best possible way
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>>483333882
Only take the host's scat fragments into account. There, it's fixed.
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>>483333789
>oh yeah its fucking gaming time

The hell are those? Looks cool. Almost like it's made from obsidian.
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dont like putrescent knight one bit
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>>483333284
Dryleaf Arts. Maybe the damage or range aren't that good, but god damn does it look cool, and poise breaking with jump kicks feels satisfying.
Backhand Blades are a close second.
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>>483333794
For retards that don't possess the ability to read, that's the co-op mod creator.

The co-op mod will be returning at the end of this week.
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>>483333723
seems like your blessing level is just very low because nothing he does should one shot you unless you just face tank his full spear explosion combo. Even his grab didn't one shot me and that is easily dodged.

I don't get why people just leave lock on for the entire fight. It's been relevant since DeS to unlock the camera when the boss is doing a fast reposition.
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>>483333774
Mohg's Remembrance stating that he did everything because he wanted to and that Miquella never communicated with him.
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>>483333543
I just don't know if I can anon. So many spammy little chip attacks that stagger you into his gigantic hits. The spam of aoe light spears that blast you for half your hp and are a constant rollcatch danger. It's ridiculous
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Sleep or Madness?
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What's the deal with the suppressing pillar?? What does it suppress?
And are the horned warriors Omens? The tall dual sworded guys in armor are they omens
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>>483333602
huhh
is a pure faith caster build doable then?
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>>483333316
Only ash worth going for is the Jolan and Anna one. As long as you don't mind missing out on darkness katana which is pretty mid anyways
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>>483333839
I've never used mods and never pvp, just co-op with my friends, no idea how I'd be banned.
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>>483333954
probably not but ur barely past halfway
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>>483333954
You definitely want at least 16 skibidis
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I want to use a med shield or a big one, don't care, but don't want to use pokey pokey weapons or giant colossal stuff, what is a good weapon to pair with it?
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Anyone know what Enir-Ilim means?
Only thing I found on reddit in the google search index is that Ilim is an Akkadian semitic root for god, similar to it's use in Bab(ylon)
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>>483333351
anyone?
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>>483333286
I love how the frenzy flame/sun is two-dimensional and doesn't rotate/move in perspective at all
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60vig chads, I kneel. I started the DLC with 40 and then leveled to 60 to feel comfy
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>>483333910
The story is about DEMIGODS working together to change the world. It's not about fucking sex. Goddamn faggot retard.
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Reminder that, even if gold mask isn't in communication with the greater will he still found a way to perfect the golden order, making it self sustainable under you. Reminder that marika, despite being justified in killing hornsent is still unjustified in every other action, and is still a confirmed cheating whore who WILL cuck you. Reminder ranni even if she didn't kill iji or let him die still let her dragon adula die for no reason showing she is willing to sacrifice her followers for no reason and the moons being special just means she's handing the reigns over to an outer god which is bad, and them just being a rock means she's letting mankind descend into chaos with no unifying force which is bad.

Goldmask unifies mankind with a faultless golden order, one that, even if not in communication with the greater will, allows mankind to have genuine peace for the foreseeable future, no mentally ill whore god in charge no retarded lolbert witch in space, just a new golden age for mankind. Under you and even without you can still run smoothly. This is the objectively good ending. Marika in any other ending will chimp out again as she always does leading to more needless deaths while making your tarnished a cuckold in the process. Ranni's ending will cause mankind to regress into pretty wars over and over and over again just like the time before marika it's unironically worse than the frenzy flamed ending. Mankind NEEDS guidance, we NEED order, and true order cannot be under a god born of mankind.
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>>483334137
Sorry, bro. I'm on the PS5.
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>>483334106
all I can think of
are they using passwords? If you have a password on you won't be summoned by anyone but people with the exact same password and can't summon anyone without the same password
also maybe your upgrade level is fucked idk
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>>483332807
should i summon on messmer?
been working on him for a while solo. getting close and would definitely beat him with one of the two summons.
so what's the /erg/ take on NPC summons, are they kosher for the DLC or cheese?
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>>483333414
What does this do
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how the fuck do you dodge gaius' charge
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>>483334080
the hornsent people made a thing that let them imbue divinity into people and it made them break out into horns
it's powered by other people so the hornsent went around genociding everyone, including the numen
Marika got PTSD when some of her own children started breaking out into horns because it reminded her of the people who chopped and tortured her entire race
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Bros, what did the message you get right as you approach the shadow keep say?
It appeared while I was fighting the some messmer knights and couldn't read it.
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>gaius
wow, you guys were right, he's an asshole.
thankfully he's dead now but the damage and combo length was pretty stupid
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There is literally nothing wrong with using Cheat Engine to give yourself infinite Larval Tears. The fact that they made them limited is retarded, you're supposed to try out everything the game has to offer.

Prove me wrong.
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>>483334131
>I don't want to take advantage of the only reason to use shields (poking weapons like spears or giant thrusting weapons) or giant colossal stuff
>What should I do
Have you considered tonguing an anus?

Those ARE the good weapons to pair with it. There's almost zero reason to use a shield if you're not using it to turtle or enable counter attacks with a colossal.
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>>483333370
What to use with it?
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Why does he have so much hair, though?
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>kill half a dungeon's worth of enemies
>never lights up
man what the fuck how does this thing work
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>>483333623
Is that the reason I can only play duels? Everyone is on coop mod?
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>>483334043
how is this a retcon? Nothing in the DLC states that Miquella communicated with Mohg.
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>>483334186
Yeah but Goldmask doesn't have boobies so I don't care.
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>>483334186
>making it self sustainable under you
Uh, it's not made self-sustainable, just immutable. Which isn't actually a good thing or a bad thing though I lean towards bad since we know the golden order is INHERENTLY flawed completely separate from whatever Marika does to it.
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>>483333623
you assume most people can even figure out how to download a file from nexus
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>throwing daggers are the worst weapon in the game
MIYAZAKI BETRAYED US
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Fellas how do i beat metyr with an int build? Whats the best sorcery for this cunt?
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Who the FUCK thought fighting these things was enjoyable enough to warrant making you do it like 10 fucking times
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>>483334120
>>483334124
>>483334018
Right. So I need to go swallow lots of skorgu fragments so I don't instantly die to shit. Thanks for the feedback.
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>>483334259
We tried with and without passwords.

To be clear, NO ONE can summon me, not just my friends, I turned off passwords and slapped myself in front of messmer and no one summoned me for 30 minutes.
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>>483334327
Ash-wise? idk I like Sword Dance for the aesthetic more than anything else so far
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>>483334186
based
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Are any of the Remembrance items worth using?
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>>483334396
Carian Sovereignty
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>>483334272
It's literally just the Sekiro deflect, lasts five minutes. You take zero health, minimum stamina and can do a massive guard counter. Turns Rellana and other spammy bosses from autistic rollspam with zero openings into actual fights. No idea why this isn't just a feature especially when guard counters exist
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>>483334362
he lets you show your boobies. truly 9999999 iq
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>>483334282
>hornsent people made a thing that let them imbue divinity into people and it made them break out into horns
I see. Where is this stated?
And I understand the next part about them being sacrificed into jars. But the Numens originated from lands afar, not in the Lands between.
Also, are the nox also Numen?
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OK, so be honest.

The Hornsent absolutely deserved everything they got, right? I'm actually starting to wonder if one Messmer was enough.
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>>483332672
First of all why the fuck would you farm anything when you could just PS SoNaF? Secondly, it's not trash. PSSS is literally cancer in PvP. Again, you don't play this game. I get you have a massive boner for Rellana's swords and I understand, they're very cool, but they are objectively inferior. Which sucks, unfortunately. They're definitely way cooler than the SoNaF.
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>>483332807
Give me a good level 157 build for my DEX/INT character (with Lusat's), I think I distributed my stats incorrectly, 49VIG seems too low and 60INT probably too high. I'll probably use stuff like great katanas or backblades
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>>483334186
>created entirely in communication with some fucking finger bitch that got mind broken because it couldn't talk to it's mommy any more and most likely crafted specifically to benefit itself
Yeah i'm sure there's nothing wrong with it
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>>483333623
I have never touched multiplayer in a souls game and I never will. So whatever.
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>WTF I HAVE TO LEVEL VIGOR TO SURVIVE BOSSES????
this is what a lot of you sound like
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Why would Numen be just shamans? They came from outside LB, they were good at smithing/crafting, they are extremely rare, and suddenly they're hippies living in LB, and there's enough of them to make jars on a regular basis?
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>>483334479
the whitered sunflower bonking hammer is pretty cool
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>>483334351
It has to be a bunch of hits in a short amount of time, then the glow goes away after a short time if you don't use the ash
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>>483334439
Sounds like you're in the shadowpool of shady players.
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How did he start giving birth to fingers?
Why did he want to be a mother?
Would a western dev ever get away with this?
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>>483334582
They absolutely did. Hell you can kill the grandma without consequence and get her loot and soup without affecting Hornset's quest.
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>>483334580
>lands afar
retconned
Marika was now born in a village of shaman and you can literally visit her hometown
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>>483332807
>roll slop general
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>>483334582
Everything they got and more.

Remember that even Rollo, who was a perfumer dedicated to healing people with potions and lotions, had enough of their shit to where he made a potion to kill his own sympathies so he could genocide their scrongly asses.
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>>483334351
Where do you find fhis?
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>483333351
>Igon
>Dragonwound Grease
>Igon's Harpoon
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Imagine if Ringed City was the same except the final boss was just "somehow, Artorias has returned" and he's marrying Gwynevere.
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>>483333623
seamless co-op is only fun with friends, not randos
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>>483334762
keep doing it
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>>483334186
>Mankind NEEDS guidance, we NEED order, and true order cannot be under a god born of mankind.
>which is why Goldmask, a scihzophrenic who can't even fucking talk and communicates at best with nothing and at worst with literally an insane finger alien, should be the one to make the final change ever allowed to the Elden Ring
good job stagnation man, the Age of Gold (Fire) beckons
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I see sweaty PvPggers I just simply block

Anyone else does the same? I'm not trying to sweat so always hate some tryhard whether it's invading or getting invaded
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BAYLE!!!!!!!

VILE BAYLE!!!!!

AAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>The anti-Ranni tranny that shat himself is STILL mad
Thank you Miyazaki for this DLC.
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fuck those dudes. I didn't try to parry anything since Dark Souls 2
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I'm getting filtered by the fucking map. I can't understand where the fuck do I go for the finger faggot, the dragon peak and the jumpscare frenzy mansion. Yeah, rat, maze, we will fuck your ass and use you as a rodent fleshlight, I get it, but ffs I can't navigate for shit
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>>483333284
Dryleaf arts easily
Once you get the Dryleaf Whirlwind ash of war, you're unstoppable. Just jump R2 in then mash whirlwind. Been using it exclusively for exploration and for most bosses since I got them
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>>483334739
>Rolling when the Sekiro deflect exists
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I'm trying to do my No-Hit
Any tips on dodging Metyr's phase transition?
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>>483334639
>>483334717
are you people stupid? the numen are not from the lands between they are from... the land of shadows. Which is not the lands between.
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>>483334439
yeah it sounds like you got penalized at some point desu
you're level 150 with +25/+10 gear? I doubt it but if you're level 150 with like +6 as your highest upgrade you won't see anyone
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All the new spirit ashes are super disappointing
I upgrade several of the named ones to +10 and none of them can take a single Haligtree knight in 1v1 combat
None of them compare to Tiche or the mimic
They can't even keep up with the B tier ashes like Rollo or Oleg
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>try to fight a dragon (Bayle)
>dodge his attacks and try to go for his head instead of the legs
>every time he's giving me an opening he pulls his head up just enough so my attack misses
What do I do wrong?
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>>483334278
Frame perfect or bait him in a direction and roll through him shortways.
I had bout 25% success in dodging his charge. Its aids
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>Spirit Glaive is Dex/Int
>Spirit Sword is Dex/Int
>Chilling Perfume Bottle is Dex/Int
>Star-Lined Sword is Dex/Int
>Velvet Sword of St. Trina is Dex/Int
>Carian Sorcery Sword is Dex/Int
>Rellana's Twin Blades are Quality I guess but also require Faith
>Putrescence Cleaver is Str/Arc

WHY DOES FROM HATE STR/INT SO FUCKING MUCH, I AM NOT RUNNING TO RADAHN AND BREAKING EVERY QUESTS JUST TO GET A SINGLE WEAPON FOR MY BUILD
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Ralva's shoulder bits being overwritten by 90% of the chest pieces is a fucking crime.
What the fuck was from thinking.
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>Kill Mesmer, who was easy as fuck for some reason
>Every NPC is now sad

…what?

What did I miss?
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>>483334386
You should use them like free consumables and not as a normal weapon.
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>>483334330
It's more beautiful
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>>483334932
Realm of Shadows is Lands Between, but veiled. There's literally a message in the Realm of Shadows saying this is the center of Lands Between
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>>483334278
hold circle
move the analog stick perpendicular to the direction of the charge
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>>483334940
But you get a dragonwife.
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>>483333679
It's fine if you abuse the Black Knife armor and Unseen Form.
>>483334762
It's part of the design. Do it five more times.
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>>483334826
Um sweaty that's not a Beesick reference

It's Moby dick
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>>483334932
god i hate retcons. It was better when the Numen were from a far off land instead of some fucking isekai bullshit.
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Ponytail or long hair?
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>>483334362
Goldmask allows you to freely choose who you wish as a partner. Without being cucked by marika as she's lobotimized or being a cringe polygamyfag or being stuck in space with ranni.
>>483334367
It's flawed BECAUSE of marika. We know this from the base game and the dlc hammered it home. You can keep being a marikuck if you like but it doesn't change facts.
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>>483334979
You killed the only cool guy that was dabbing on Omeniggers. What did you expect?
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>>483334959
>>every time he's giving me an opening he pulls his head up just enough so my attack misses
Yes, that's why the game specifically gives you a weapon called DRAGON SLAYER KATANA right before this area, which has a weapon art that makes you jump in the air and perform an attack. I think it's specifically meant for this exact purpose.
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Multi-layered ring of light FUCKS
this is holy's equivalent of giant's flame with the spiraltree seal
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>>483334998
I won her heart...
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>>483334939
>>483334676
plenty of +25 gear. I really have no idea how id be in some shadowban pool, I'm not into modding at all and don't pvp.
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>>483334932
The land of the shadows IS the Lands between just areas that got hidden away lol
Marika did some hocus pocus and vanished a huge part of the Kingdom.
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>>483334932
Well, the village is on the edge of the map, and does not look like something that's been around for awhile. Could be the numen came through the fog and established itself and then got jarred the fuck up.
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am I required to summon Igon for Bayle to finish his quest or can I just do the fight solo?
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>>483334271
someone pls answer this before it gets burried. i want to know if i'm going to fuck up the story quest or not. ;_;
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>>483334932
The land of shadows is originally part of the lands between you fucking retard
Marika veiled it and exiled it physically after the war that happened there
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Do we know what Bayle's resistances are
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>>483334767
Excuse me got it mixed up with the Dragon Communion Harpoon. It does a massive amount of damage
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>>483335023
Its not a retcon. Shes still from a far off land. We dont know where the Realm of Shadow is physically.
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>>483333623
I already had my fill gatekeeping the DLC at Mohgs. I've killed over 100 pve herbivores. It's only a shame that dying to an invader gives them a period of time where they can't get invaded again. Already know the DLC made pvp much worse, don't care to stick around for more people to figure out the same shit I have.

Besides that shit doesn't kill pvp as much as you retards think it does, you're just stealing Miyazaki's credit.
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>>483334819
Any ending with marika alive leads to more wars and bloodshed and stagnation
Any ending with ranni in charge leads to chaos and regression
Frenzy flame is complete ruin
Regardless of the choice you make every ending will lead to life being shit. Why not have it be orderly at the very least where man is under no rule of a mentally ill whore that's blonde or a mentally ill doll who's blue?
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>>483335142
If you don't summon hornsent he will be part of the Leda ganksquad
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>>483335104
>alt+tab out of game one too many times
>get put on the naughty list by anti-cheat
>co-op stolen

Many such cases. Sad!
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>>483335076
I can't even use it with my stats.
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>Lengthiest game they've ever made with a full Souls game added as DLC
>Autistic levels of upgrade mats needed
>No boss refight mechanic, not even Bonfire Ascetics
>But fucking Sekiro of all games lets you refight bosses
Bravo Miyazaki
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>>483334407
JUST CRAFT A POT

EVERYONE TAKING 30 MINUTES TO KILL THESE THINGS IS RETARDED
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not sure why they made the fire knights harder than messmer himself. if the boss was just a fire knight with an hp multiplier i guarantee it'd have filtered even more people lol
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>>483334360
Because now the DLC is saying that Mohg didn't actually want to do what he did and yes he did communicate with Mohg, he supposedly bewitched him and directly fought one of his knights.
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>>483335038
>It's flawed BECAUSE of marika
The Golden Order was created the very moment Marika removed the Rune of Death. It wasn't the Golden Order before that. Even if you wanted to create the "whole" Elden Ring, before Marika removed Death (and arguably the Elden Ring doesn't have a canonical whole state anyway since Marika certainly brought her own rune in as an empyrean), that wouldn't be the Golden Order and is therefore not what Goldmask is seeking to make.

>>483335104
Some anon said he had a bug where he alt-f4'd during a boss fight and got penalized, idk
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>>483335028
Long
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>>483333284
I like Poison Hand despite poison being dogshit
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>>483335019
Speaking of dicks, did miazaki really not give us the ability to duplicate Bayle's heart?
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Sleep or madness?
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I'm still just going for the Duskborn ending to give Skelly Rights and be married to Marika
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you can power stance martial arts and its pretty sweet. besides just doing a boat load of damage it ends in a kamehameha pose.
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So in future playthroughs will you do the DLC at the end of a playthrough with your ideal setup and bell bearings or rush the DLC asap and use that gear in the normal world?
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why is Fia's ending bad, isn't her route fixing things by re-establishing death?
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>>483335204
The pillar on this mark has a tombstone that fucking says it's the center of the lands between.
The veil on the scadu tree is reaching out to each of the divine towers, which is maintaining the edge of the veil.
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>people just headcanoning that the land of shadow is physically in the lands between
jesus christ you lorefags are stupid
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>>483335258
>and stagnation
Marika's rule wasn't stagnant though? Stagnation actually sets in pretty much the moment she tries to make serious changes and the Fingers and EB freak out on her. Like you can say a lot about her but champion of stagnation she was not.
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>>483334819
Anon the game establishes marika's reign was still stagnation. There's no good ending. It's an argument over which is the least shit. Elden ring is a grimdark setting, the world is objectively doomed regardless. I just choose to ride out the end of days with the blonde milf
t. Marikachad
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>>483334752
oh shit which item description says that
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>>483334781
All the cuck memes with Ciaran would be beyond hilarious desu
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the lands between what
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>>483335270
I couldn't either, I respec'd to use it for this area. It made the Bayle fight way too easy tho, I literally first tried him.
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>>483334278
The initial charge I just tank it with an Endure dagger. After that he'll never charge again so long as you stay near him and already run towards him
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>>483334186
>found a way to perfect the golden order
Attempting to be perfect and being perfect are not the same thing.
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>>483335405
Didn't you see the flies in that ending? You got tricked. There's going to be blight and nasty shit everywhere.
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>>483335289
Lightning perfume bottle and rolling spark AOW melts him in seconds, no gay pot required.
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>>483335289
Wait, what? There's an easy method?
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>>483334683
>Would a western dev ever get away with this?
No because they wouldnt create a world so alien to the real world where people just accept that "mother" and "consort" are sort of titles
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>>483335516
How many skibidies did you have?
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>>483335405
No
The Rune of Death cannot be restored to the Elden Ring, that's what Malekith means when he says the golden order can't be saved, Godwyn can't die a true death
Fia's route is just normalizing turning into a skeleton after you die.
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>>483335534
i haven't unlocked it yet no
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>Messmer
>was running dex/fth fire build in prep for his weapon
>only now realise it's bad for fighting him
Uh. Sacred seems to not be great. Any recommendations? Which element is he weakest to?
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Before playing the dlc I would never imagine that my favorite character would be a mogh servant, I truly liked ansbach what a bro
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>>483335443
There is LITERALLY a place in game that says that it physically in the lands between
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>level vigor
>Don't survive bosses
y-you too
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>>483335171
Seems like weak to piercing. I fought him with my greatbow build and they were chunking with a pretty low skibidi level
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>>483335319
The line is the golden order was created and then the rune of death was plucked out FROM the golden order.
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>>483333284
Dane's Footwork
https://youtu.be/QnfgNHK_VxY
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>>483335446
>doesn't lead to stagnation
>literally all evidence points to the contrary
>her removing the rune of death being outright stated to have caused the sorry state of the world
I'm a marikafag but it's clear she's a champion for it. Stagnation isn't always bad.
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>>483334762
Read the messages you fucking tard
Have you ever done the OG Resident Evil Wesker Office Chair thing? Do that
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T-Thanks
This is the clue I needed...
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>>483335589
9 scoobydoo levels right now. I haven't done Messmer, just running around the map.
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>>483335470
I don't think it does establish Marika's reign is stagnation, it might establish the Age of Fracture as stagnation though
honestly fuck Miyazaki what a retard
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>>483335518
*always run towards him
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>>483335298
I can stunlock fire knights with lightning spears but not messemer. Therefore, messemer is harder.
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Was St. Trina good and helpful? What evidence for there is that?
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>>483334323
I like the drip, not to be forced to poke shit for 300 hours until it dies
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>>483335541
The game even tells you... god, these are the people bitching about ER

You throw a fire pot into their basket and they take like 15k+ damage. You can do this after they fall over or if youre fighting one something to climb on.
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Just finished Midra.
KINO fight, probably my favourite in the DLC so far, though I haven't fought many main bosses yet.
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this but marika instead of dung eater
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Wait I don't get it, why can't the Realm of Shadows be in the Lands Between AND the Numen are still from a far place? Nothing is incongruent here. Nothing stated that Marika herself was like a fully grown alien that freshly arrived at the LB. The Numen race were from another place and then settled into the Shaman village.
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Man I really don't like how dark and gray and low contrast the dlc world looks at night
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what's the deal with the shed snake skin in the bonny village?
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>>483335669
It's on the opposite side.
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>>483335643
The Golden Order was created after the GEQ's defeat and Marika sealed away the Rune of Death upon the GEQ's defeat unless you think she put it in the ring and then after a while decided to take it out again
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The reason Elden Ring feels off plot wise is that it combines chuddy aesthetics with unapologetic cultural marxist storytelling.
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I really hope the Skibidi blessing persist through NG cycles.
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>>483335597
>Fia's route is just normalizing turning into a skeleton after you die.
so it's the good ending
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>>483334971
Best int str weapon is cold naginata of course
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>>483335379
both
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>>483335737
they're not innocent if they have horns

>>483335754
le edgy shadow realm le no hope le grimderp
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New PVP Meta is 175 now, right?
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Wow the Marikucks and tRannisimps sure are mad huh?
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>>483335669
You can do it like I did it which is abuse torrent's double jump to just barely make it from a top of another ruin or the way you're supposed to do it, which is just crouch through a small hole in the wall
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>>483335471
Reminder that "Omen" is basically just the Elden equivalent of "nigger" for Hornsent.
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Why does miquella want to become as gods anyway? Why does he get out of it?
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>>483335718
Oh I guess that's why there was a spirit spring near the one leading up to the Church District.
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>>483335796
>Blatant raging homosexuals
>They're evil
It's called Kino, you wouldn't get it
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>>483335028
Ponytail lets you see the sexy back
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>>483335669
The fuck is that at?
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BAYLE IS SUCH A DOGSHIT FIGHT
WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY DESIGN A DRAGON FIGHT THAT DOESN'T LET YOU LOCK ONTO THE LEGS

MIYAZAKI IS A FUCKING RETARDED HACK I FUCKING SAID IT DUMB FUCKING CUNTS WHO DONT EVEN PLAYTEST THEIR OWN GAME
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So this is the "strength" of your average hostcel these days...
Embarrassing. Can even one of them still put up a fight?
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So.... did Miquella and Radahn..... ya know...
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>>483335443
Retard.
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>>483335617
>pic
That’s unironically my ideology.
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Mogh... forgive me...
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>oh what lore did they retcon
>well I thought X but apparently it was Y
so you are all mad about shit that you just made up
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>>483335881
200
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Zanzibart....
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>>483335319
>doesn't even read the lore he's commenting on
Marikafags everyone. It's said the rune of death was plucked from it. PLEASE read the lore and play the game before talking about it
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>>483333284
Rellana's swords.

Sloppy roastie falling for dirty reds is a tale as old as time, it's another (sort of) int faith weapon, echos pontiff Sullivan. Just a very fun set.
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>>483334278
sprint to the left and get behind the little nook around the corner at the beginning
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>>483335943
So is "Tarnished" another word for pajeet?
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>>483336041
it has always been that way dont pretend twinking didnt exist with the pyromancer flame in DS1
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>>483335943
Fucking based
niggakiller Rollo made pic related into a potion
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>>483335943
so these guys are like KKK niggerkillers?
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>>483336228
No, pajeets are Indian. Tarnished are people that were in the running for Lord and banished. They're basically like Visabros or Sex Tourists
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What's the secret to actually doing damage to the fire basket golems, cause I really don't feel like poking at its feet for an hour and a half
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>>483335943
>Margitt the niggerking
lmao
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>went to NG+ like a fool, shortly before the DLC patch, so summoning pools didn't carry over
>no graces, have to run around unlocking everything I want
>have to do Radahn and Mohg on NG+ to get to NG+ DLC
I'm feeling my conviction falter bros...
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>>483336076
200!? Press F for all the albinaurics lol
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More like BASED Serpent Messmer am I right? Is he the best boss in the dlc?
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wat do
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This is actually peak GRRM writing rather than Miyahacki
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>>483335943
why did you make a real screencap from the game look ai generated
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>>483336367
That's the secret
you poise break the 3 times and they'll fall over so you can stab them for half their HP
some of them stand close enough to cliffs that you can lob fire bombs into their head and that also does like 20k damage per shot
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>>483335443
This game has a bunch of theories that are headcanon but this one is not one of them and you are in fact a fucking retard doubling down on your own retardation.
>"Yes, the shadow lands in which the DLC take place are sundered from the Lands Between where the main story takes place. It has been removed from and hidden from the outside world and this veil is a symbol of that." - Hidetaka Miyazaki, in his interview to Famitsu
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Can you scarlet rot Gaius?
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Do I *have* to summon the BAAAAAYLE guy for the fight to advance his quest? I'm doing everything solo on the first run.
Also, he gave me his finger, but I don't see any NPC signs before the arena, so even if I wanted, I don't seem to be able to summon him, since I can't see his sign anywhere.
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>>483334009
Why is that bad? Don’t mods get you banned if you use them while pvping?
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>>483336010
town ruins
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Since Marika is the WORLD'S GREATEST MOTHER

Whom would be the opposite?
>inb4Whydoesawomanneedtogivebirth
I genuinely can't think of any humanoid, even animals do a better job
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>>483335943
>"OMENS COULD BE HERE" Marika thought to herself
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>>483335536
are the perfume weps actually good?
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>>483336472
Same shit happened to me. I thought if I quit and reloaded it would appear on the ground.
It just disappeared instead. Pls tell me this wasn't anything important.
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>>483336228
Tarnished are the true god's chosen tribe
>>483336369
Margit is basically the Black Guy in the KKK + Uncle Ruckus
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>>483336460
His spear is cool but his WA is way too easy to get staggered out of
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Oh this is pretty
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>>483335692
It outright says it does. So yes it is stagnation. It's okay to admit marika has faults and still like her you're aware of that right? It's not about what you think but about what we're directly told and shown. She is a champion of stagnation but her stagnation wasn't actually bad until she made her plans to usurp elden beast which is when her golden age ended, with godfreys banishment. In the ideal ending, not fracture as the elden ring is not mended and marika is left broken and comatose, marika would remake her golden age with you alongside her, instead of godfrey. It will be stagnation but stagnation is unironically good, if it's stagnation
In a golden age which marika has been shown to be able to create.
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Was it ever explained why everyone in the Lands Between except for the tarnished is a zombie?
Dark Souls had hollowing as a concept, but is there an equivalent in Elden Ring?
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>>483336509
you summon him in the arena. you should really do it because it makes the fight even more kino than it already is
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>INT
>FTH
>STR
>DEX
>ARC
who won the dlc?
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>>483336472
reload into game


also for people who keep complaining about performance: disable ray tracing.
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>>483333284
Messmer's Spear is so cool I want to make a whole build around it. But right now its Sunflower for me.
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this was a fun fight to learn, hope there's more like Messmer
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>>483335781
>>483335901
thanks bros
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>>483336623
>Was it ever explained why everyone in the Lands Between except for the tarnished is a zombie?
It was it's just you were mindraped by Greattreefags
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What is it with Fromsoft and gay men draped around their brother's necks
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In the hitnerland, top right corner of the map (before you get to those finger ruins, near the shaman village) there's 2 tree sentinels. I killed them and then later on a third spawned. I noticed he wasn't hostile but he did have lock on so I fucked him up anyway thinking I'd get another marikas blessing. Didn't drop one though, not even any souls. Afterwards I saw messages saying not to kill him or something.
Did I fuck something up or are the messages just schizophrenic
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Why is the erdtree such a big deal when elden ring, empyreans etc where a thing before it?
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>>483336623
yeah, death was kinda broken
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>>483335785
Basic understanding of how words work, the golden order was created and then the ruin of death was plucked from it upon it's formation.

The order was formed, and then the rune was plucked. The ruin was required to form the order, she then removes death and has maliketh seal it away to prevent anyone from doing exactly what she just did, kill whoever is in charge to make your own rules.
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>see everybody complain about a stealth section
>get to it
>make minimal prep, just equip the black knife armor to muffle footsteps
>literally sprint through the entire area to the mansion
What’s the issue
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>>483336632
>kino
Ok, real talk. But do I miss out on any material rewards if I don't?
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>>483336460
Woah! Messmer the Impaler needs me? Okay, I'll do it. I'm going to bat for you, Messmer! I got your back, Messmer!
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Please someone EXPLAIN what the scadutree is.
Is it the REAL tree that was there before Marika planted the erdtree out of the crucible? Or is the REAL form of the erdtree and if so what happens to The Golden erdtree in leyndell?
Did the Omens/Hornsent worship the Scadutree? What God did they worship?
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>>483335943
I knew I liked this guy for a reason
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>>483336623
Death and rebirth has scrambled their brains due to the Shattering/Godfrey gumming up the works. Also cute Reg
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Wait If omen is the N word for hornsent does that mean marika gave birth to essentially black kids? How? Also does that mean morgott is the uncle ruckus of elden ring?
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>Marika is born Empyrean
>Lives in the Central lands between
>Hornsent figure out the secret to Divinity and create The Gates, which meshes together thousands and thousands of living beings to impart divinity upon those who pass through. Empyreans can become Gods
>Hornsent find Shamans are the perfect glue and so genocide all of them, chopping them up and sticking them into pots to later be added to the crucible
>Hornsent break out into horns while powering up
>Marika is completely mindbroken by this

>Marika is contacted by Metyr and the fingers, who promise her power
>She begins to shed away her own weakness, becoming pure.
>The Hornsent are impacted by the Fly disease, introduced by Marika or a Shaman spirit.
>Marika befriends non-Hornsent and lays waste to the hornfuckers together with Maliketh, the gift given to her by Metyr, and her consort Godfrey
>As an Empyrean, she can become a True God at the Gates of Divinity

>Marika becomes Goddess, her age starts. She even removes Death from the Elden ring so those she loves will never ever have to die again.
>This love becomes a foundational part of Marika
>She gifts her dead village an Erdtree.
>Metyr doesn't actually know what to do since she's been cut off from the Greater Will, and so she tries to commune with it. Her fingers help rule the land but they're flying blind since mama is on a call. Some of the spawn embrace the Chaos of Despair, becoming the Three fingers.
>Her dregs she cast off have coalesced into Radagon, who walks the lands between.
>Her children are born with the horns of the cruel monsters who genocided her family. She becomes utterly terrified of them, but murdering her own children would break her, and so she has them thrown into the sewers
>Messmer genocides the remaining Hornsent and begins his iron rule.
>Marika then seals him and the Land of Shadows away forever, seals the gates so nobody can touch her and together with Godfrey, begins a true golden age.
>Radagon reappears...
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>>483332807
Considering doing a blood build, or maybe a dragon communion build. Are the new dragon forms any good?
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>>483336567
They are broken when paired with the rolling spark AOW. Just aim on the floor and it melts everything. Except the poison one, which sucks.
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>>483336774
I don't know. probably not
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>>483336623
No
It's never properly explained
>le life without death
We SEE dead people and corpses being stuffed into jars or inside trees, there are no more rebirths but that doesn't mean people don't fucking die
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>>483336769
Same. There' an ash of war. Lets you get ignored and muffled steps. Not to mention i didnt even use the invisible spell to stack more
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>>483336671
I'd say there are like three more like Messmer but one of them might be way too easy cause I feel like she wasn't really designed for the blessing level you end up fighting her at
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>>483336613
too bad there's fucking nothing there
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>>483336613
Not as pretty as your asshole will be when I shove my gravestone so far up your ass your insides will look like Marika after Godfrey took off his lion.
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>>483336774
No, but honestly he doesn't do jackshit and because he is a post fog gate summon, it doesn't affect his health pool so just summon him for the voice lines
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How do I get to the bottom right area?
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>>483336769
It's just boring and retarded rather than hard
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>>483336582
>>483336651
getting conflicting info
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The more i play this game the more i'm convinced that these threads are underage summerfags shitposting, retards still being beyond dogshit at the game or both
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>>483336769
>make minimal prep, just equip the black knife armor to muffle footsteps
You still did more than I then. I basically just explored the whole area normally, ran into the frenzy fuckers on 2 short roads, but just sneaked past them without an issue. I don't understand how can anyone complain about it, the entire "stealth" part of that area took me maybe 20 or 30 seconds.
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>>483336769
They're dumb, its like 30 seconds and you can use the silence talisman too.
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>>483336794
Skibitree
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Does the overwhelming majority of bosses in the DLC resist Faith damage this time... again?
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>>483336794
Miyazaki's just throwing words together and built a world with bosses in it. None of it means anything, anon.
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>>483336513
Vast majority of people will play through the dlc with their friends, which means there's no one to invade since they are not actually on the servers.
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Stop embaressing yourselves, just wait for the vaatividya video to tell you what the actual lore is
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>>483336936
That's actually 3 areas
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Good weapons for a dragon build? Tired of using reduvia
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>>483336825
>Wait If omen is the N word for hornsent does that mean marika gave birth to essentially black kids? How?
Marika got lonely while Godfrey was deployed in some war she started
>Also does that mean morgott is the uncle ruckus of elden ring?
Yes
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>>483336769
the stealth segment itself is fun but there's obnoxious LE PREPARE TO LE DIE bullshit like stunlocking rats hidden in some of the bushes for no reason other than to be annoying
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>>483336828
>>Hornsent figure out the secret to Divinity and create The Gates, which meshes together thousands and thousands of living beings to impart divinity upon those who pass through. Empyreans can become Gods
trailer is not canon
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>>483336828
>mom, i posted it again!
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any shieldbros here?
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>>483336828
>She begins to shed away her own weakness, becoming pure.
I doubt there was anything like what Miquella was doing since "weakness" doesn't seem like something you can shed. Like what do you do, drop negative runes on the ground?
>Radagon reappears...
Radagon doesn't 'reappear' he is created
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>>483336731
oh nonono
oohhhhhh nononono
You are locked out of zanzibarts panties until ng+
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>>483336907
but enough about...uh.. the entire dlc
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>>483337040
Beast claws. Abandon humanity, embrace claw and flame.
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>>483336582
its yellow grovewort
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>>483336936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefb4WW4qHc

it's a bit of a trek, so suffer through this youtubefag
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>>483336963
Mfw I fatrolled right under one of their noses (do they even have noses?) and it didn't see me
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>>483337015
Nope. Faith finally goated for once. Although there is a boss that resists Fire.
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>>483337025
Buy an ad nigger
also he steals all of the lore from these threads and reddit unironically

>>483336825
>Wait If omen is the N word for hornsent does that mean marika gave birth to essentially black kids
Omens have a curse on them apparently, see Morgott and Mohg having formless mother powers
It was probably some hornsent bullshit for revenge against Marika genociding them in retaliation for them genociding her
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Well, /erg/? Who did you assist?
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>Gets bodied by Morgott
>Gets bodied by Malenia
>Gets bodied by the Tarnished
>Miquella: 'Hmm I need the strongest warrior as my consort'
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>>483337040
those big fat guys in DLC drop weapons that scale with arcane
a spear and a colossal weapon. the big weapon has S scaling in arcane when occult, but it requires 28 str too. the spear is much easier to use and is decent with something like blood tax
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I don't blame Marika for hating Hornsentggers

Do you remember those rams with the horns? They're the only ones who go aggro. Same with thr fucking hogs with horns now. All aggro without you doing anything
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>>483337015
No I'm plapping bosses with holy and fire.
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>>483336623
>Marika creates the golden order
>then removed the rune of death
>preventing the cycle of life and death
>seals the rune of death away in maliketh so no one can use death to kill her to do basically what she just fucking did - kill everyone and then use the runes to make the land ruled under your rules of nature
Yes, literally everyone is a fucking zombie at this point.
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>>483336936
Cross the bridge in the first area and look for a way down.
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Fuck it, calling it here for the night. Will carry on beating my face against Messmer tomorrow.
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I still don't know who marika and radagon are and what the erdtree is or what the tarnished is or anything from the base game
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how does summoning work? i was just summoned to fight the dancing lion boss and was barely doing jack shit to its hp, is it based on the hosts DLC level? im level 5
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>>483336828
writing this down...
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putrid boss worst so far
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>>483336769
>Run into one of the bell flowers
>Run the other direction
>Free passage tot he next area
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>>483337241
Hornsent, obviously
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>>483337263
What's with the light show and him flying like a missile
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>you can enter the fucking Shadow Keep without killing a single enemy in the entire DLC
>you can grab all the cool shit along the way
I'm invading at 40 with the carian thrusting shield, this shit is absurd, it's everything Valorheart wanted to be, guard frames out of ass, counter damage because why not, buffable with anything including greases, fantastic moveset, this is absurd.
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>>483333495
I'm saying that shadowtree would be scadutreo or something in old english, though you probably can't just combine them in that way since old english had stricter rules on attributives
It's not Shadowtree in old english, it's shadow in old english + tree
It's just cringe on the highest possible level
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>>483336859
>It's never properly explained
Regardless of what happens with Destined Death, to "die" means going back to the erdtree. People build catacombs on roots and have jars collect corpses to bring them back to the erdtree if they don't make it, even if you don't die near and erdtree root systemm ghosts are lured after death back to the erdtree. Ghosts, ashes, lore ghosts are also fucking everywhere because even total obliteration to the body leaves ghosts alive.

The very, VERY first NPC ghost you find is sitting in a catacombs and can not die for some reason despite making contact with the roots.

The item RIGHT NEXT to him, root resin, says that the greattree roots were "ONCE LINKED" to the erdtree, indicating the root system from the minor erdtrees/catacomb trees to the big erdtree is severed, and now nobody can go about the death process.

There you go, ghosts, zombies, immortal people, all explained. TWLID are just hit by godwyn roots and can now NEVER return to the erdtree.

The "greattree" is the minor erdtree in english version, and the jap version doesn't even mention the greattree, just "big roots"
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>>483337241
Neither I didn't even see their signs lol
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>>483336825
Godfrey is from the crucible era. Everyone born in that age has a chance of having omen offspring.
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>>483336828
>>Marika then seals him and the Land of Shadows away forever, seals the gates so nobody can touch her and together with Godfrey, begins a true golden age.
Why does she seal Messmer? Why does she hate him?
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>>483337146
>SECRET Area
god I hate youtube so fucking much
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>have kino haunted woods section
>put in a chase section where u run from an insta-madness kill invincible npc
i'd clap if i wasn't so furious right now
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>>483332991
The story in the DLC is George R.R. Martin's doing, it's 90% his style
He pretty much got to insert his fanfic into the DLC, which is why it's so disconnected from the main game
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>>483337263
Now that I think about why didn't miquella just ask (You) to be her consort?
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>>483336615
I don't get why people can't cope with this, NONE of the endings are good, this is what the game and dlc tries to tell us. None of the characters are wholly good or wholly evil. They're flawed pieces of shit who want what's good for everyone even if it harms many. And not only that, BUT, the message of dark souls was never that "stagnation bad" as we clearly see that things are just a cycle regardless of what you do in those games and due to its cyclical nature its by definition stagnant and unending, and that the age of the dark and deep is worse than that of fire. The message is that MEDDLING WITH THE NATURAL ORDER IS BAD. In elden ring the natural order is a vessel god with the elden ring within it helping to decide mankind's fate. Marika decides to be more in charge of things, ranni decides to be more hands-off. Regardless of what you think of them, they both comply to the natural order of reality itself. So neither are bad based on ds. Infact the only bad endings ARE goldmask as he subverts the system just as gwyn tried to when he linked the flame artificially, you know, the first sin? And the frenzied flame that just burns everything to nothing. Whether you like it or not MARIKA AND RANNI ARE THE GOOD AND CANON ENDINGS. YOU WILL FUCK GODESS PUSSY WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
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>>483337423
I find it strange how quickly people are dismissing so many weapons, spells, and ashes of war. It's like they look at the moveset, beat up a hollow for 10 seconds, and then say
>Yeah, I'm thinking it's shit
Really looking forward to trying some of the new stuff on a lower level character where invasions aren't just 3 people spamming moonveil.
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They nerfed BB. Thy part in this shall not be forgiven!
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>>483337635
>her
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>>483337317
The rune of death being removed only affected demigod.
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>>483337635
>her
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How do I beat Gaius
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>>483336496
Oh my that was a fun and exciting fight. Amazing
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Decided to spoil myself and check the weapon list, THE FUCKING TROLL KNIGHT SWORD RESKIN IS THE ONLY NEW STR/INT WEAPON THAT ISN'T TIED TO BEATING RADAHN???? WHAT THE FUCK MIYAZAKI
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Quelaag is getting absolutely wrecked by the sunflower right now
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>>483332807
>mfw i find the beast claws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dvnUD9ZeY
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>Godfrey became Elden lord,
>Grabs Marika and throws her into the air,
>He jumps into the air and grabs her
>Slams her down onto his steaming elephant trunk dick.
>Marika creates Serosh so he doesnt kill her in bed.
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>>483337670
If if doesn't one shot Secluded Cell troll I'm out
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>>483337635
The gayden ring
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>>483337727
Bloodhound's step to dodge the charge, then you can actually learn / play the fight. Have fun.
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>>483337263
>Chadhan slander
Your stupid rot bitch failed her mission at bringing Bvllhan home to fuck jet brother so she ragequited and rot nuked a whole region like a stupid cunt and went comatose.
We have no clarification of what happened on the Margit fight besides the picture, for all we know Radahn got back up and kicked his ass or maybe even a stalemate due to Morg being probably the most formidable shardbearer to challenge Godhan
Meanwhile the player character fought a rabid rotaids ridden zombie version of our glorious redmaned general, so shit the fuck yo and show some respect, faggot
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>if you shoot gravitational missile into a wall or floor it immediately detonates
well well well not as useless as it appears
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I've noticed I can't seem to see normal summon signs, but can be summoned or summon people who share a password/be invaded. I assume this is related to the message I got a while back when panty-anon was giving out Fia's deathbed smalls. Is my character soft-banned or something? I don't really mind it, just was wondering if anyone else has had a similar issue crop up. Wonder if it it will affect future characters, or if dropping the panties will fix it. I refuse, they are a keepsake of a funny moment from threads past.
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>>483337662
You fuck Marika in the goldmask ending. You're retarded.
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>>483333284
Messmer spear
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>>483337451
I'm pretty sure Marika or someone else cut the minor erdtrees off from the actual Erdtree and/or the Erdtree's roots off from the Erdtree since Godwyn is in Deeproot Depths and presumably cutting it off was a way to protect the Erdtree from being overwhelmed by Godwyn
That's part of the reason I think Godwyn relatively early too, the Erdtree probably stopped producing sap when Godwyn got squidded and Marika was forced to cut the Erdtree off.

>Regardless of what happens with Destined Death, to "die" means going back to the erdtree.
I don't think that is true. That's what it means to die a proper death, but that seems like religious doctrine rather than an actual statement. Erdtree burial was reserved for heroes, everyone else just got normal graveyards and maybe eventually got called back to the Erdtree. But it doesn't really explain the zombies or everyone being hollow.
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>>483337771
The weapon list is abysmal.

>ONE HUNDRED NEW WEAPONS!!!
>somehow there are less than fucking 5 that I'm actually interested in
>just piles of colossal slop or daggers and shit that absolutely no one will use
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why does everything have insane tracking
what happened to the fine art of strafing boss attacks? did it really make miyazaki that angry
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do i get here from the castle?
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>delayed attacks and 10 hit combos
if miyazaki wants bloodborne then give us the mechanics bloodborne had
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>>483337670
Try dueling shield, by the gods it's insane. This moveset is like a hybrid between a shield and a heavy thrusting sword. It's COVERED with guard frames. Fantastic running attacks too.
It can even backstab and riposte, holy shit.
Thus far it's my biggest surprise with the DLC given that they failed to properly hype them up in the trailers.
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Is there an updated spreadsheet for every weapon and their scaling? I'm looking for the best frost weapons to run through the DLC with.
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>>483334971
Clayman's Harpoon :)
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Miquella's panties...
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>>483337423
How the fuck did you beat mogh at 40?
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>>483333286
there are a TON of crouchable and jumpable attacks in the DLC. i noticed while using scarlet aoenia most of the time i wouldn't even take damage.
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>>483337873
Nigger, faggots like you are the reason we got le epic prime fight reused boss as the final boss of the dlc
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>>483337241
>assisting hornsent jews ever
total hornsent death
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>lore never explains how big miquella's cock is
dropped
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>>483337851
>Just use bloodhound step

If this is now mandatory then the DLC is fucking broken.
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>>483337662
>NONE of the endings are good, this is what the game and dlc tries to tell us. None of the characters are wholly good or wholly evil,
Because this is bad writing and I'm tired of pretending grimdark bullshit is good. If everyone is a nigger asshole and there's no good endings then why bother?
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>>483337562
>invincible
Try parrying
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>>483337771
the actual new best STR/INT weapon is a magic infused Smithscript Axe which can get up to 950 base AR before skibidi, on a weapon with the frame data of a straight sword
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>>483337727
roll nigga
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>>483337635
>her
and it's because he specifically wants radahn
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Alright, I'm summoning Mimic tear and cheesing Radahn. I'm not gonna play fair against bosses that don't want to be fair back.
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>>483337662
>YOU WILL FUCK GODESS PUSSY
Ranni doesn't have a pussy. It's literally hemp rope
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This guy, man. What an entry.
Felt great to fight.
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>when morgott dies he's cured of being an omen
>when ruckus dies he's cured of being black
MORGOTT BROS? OUR RESPONSE?
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Is there a catch to the viridian tear (no stamina consumption) or is it as broken as it sounds
Does the effect last like 6 seconds
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Why did the Leda gank fight feel more climatic than the actual final boss?
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>>483337992
eat shit worm
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>>483337423
>I'm invading at 40
>other guy has bullgoat's
epic
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Of the new incantations and sorceries, which ones are good or efficient? Anything that powercreeps the base game ones?
The only good one I know so far is Heal from Afar.
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>>483337873
try english pajeet
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>>483337992
Cope. Bvllhan is the GOAT with Miyazaki’s blessing
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>>483337965
his name is mohg
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Beast Claw with Maliketh's armor set
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The time span is always confusing to me.
How long has the Golden Order been around?
How long has it been since the Shittening?
How long has Messmaballs ruled the Realm of Shadow?
How old is Marika and her children?
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She's using mimic tear now
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when power stancing, is there a way to block?
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>>483337886
>deathbed smalls
Deathbed smalls will get you banned yes, they're not obtainable in game
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>special black katana from super long late quest is kind of shit
>the random katana you pick up from a lake early on is broken and probably needs a nerf
what did from mean by this
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Hold on, are Messmer and Miquella working together? He curses his mother when he dies, wonder what this means and how a serpent even began growing inside of him?
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>>483338073
>Radahn suplexes your mimic and kills it in two hits
>now you are fighting an HP buffed Radahn
Enjoy lmao
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What am I supposed to use against the Fire guy of invincible shins?
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Huh.
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If Messmer and Melina are siblings who are children of Marika who's the father
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>>483338108
He was rewarded for thousands of years of being a janny
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>>483338073
boss is a nigger. he deserves tje Mimic with those stupid additional AoE spawns on every attack
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>>483338038
Grimdark is fine because it still has hope in it.
>>483338092
She can alter her body with the elden ring. You can still fuck her.
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>>483338108
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
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>>483338115
All the NPC summon dialogues in fights is great
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>>483338249
You have to throw the new heavy pot items on their head or use the lightning perfume which ignores their shins. Not sure what else can hurt them.
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>>483338319
>Grimdark is fine because it still has hope in it.
Do you not understand what the word grimdark means? It doesn't mean gritty or that the world sucks. 40k is not grimdark despite the marketing. Dark Souls is not grimdark. Sekiro is not grirmdark.
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>beat Radahn
>cutscene starts
>wings grow out his back, as horns overtake his body, Mohg retakes his now buffed body
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>>483338318
How the hell do you even dodge those afterimage things that slam down overheads like 4 times in a row after he lifts up into the air?
It seems genuinely undodgeable
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>Phase 1 Radahn does the aoe pull into aoe damage that lingers
Run away, jump the aoe, keep running when you land and you avoid the lingering aoe damage
>Phase 2 Radahn does the aoe pull, into aoe damage that lingers, into Miquella aoe, into aoe damage that lingers
??? Am I overthinking this and I should jump the Miquella part?
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>>483334739
Needs some updates for the DLC, also talismans + antspur rapier
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What do I put on the lightning perfume bottle to make it broken?
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Anyone know where the East mausoleum is located? I've done the other three.
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>Hornsent are hebrews
>Their faith is the crucible
>Marika/Golden Order is Christianity
>The Erdtree imposes itself over the jewish crucible and hides it
hmmmm
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>>483338125
That's beast champion, you can get it super early by killing Bernahl
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>>483338505
Rolling spark AOW
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builds for this feel?
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>>483338505
Rolling Sparks. Works on any of the perfumes but poison
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How do you handle phase 2 Messmer? I can consistently do phase 1 easily enough, but I can barely land a hit on him with how he zips around in snake form.
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>>483338442
Step slightly to the left.
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>>483338609
rollo and shield grease + the sekiro tear
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>>483333774
Miquella randomly has two bodies.
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>>483338430
It has multiple meanings and not one of its progenitors agree upon which
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>>483337918
>I don't think that is true.
My point is it doesn't matter. Because even with DD sealed, people would "die" by going to the roots. Whether this reincarnated them, killed them, turned them into magic soul sap bullshit, doesn't matter. That's how they "died" no in the golden order. Erdtree burials are just VIP express into death so you don't become a ghost like lore ghosts or the fucks in Caelid catacombs permanently murdering eachother.

Helphen Sword and other lore items talk about luring dead souls back to the erdtree if they didn't touch roots. Before the erdtree or DD seal shit, souls got burnt up in ghostflame or some shit, which makes me think that dying isn't a straightforward task in this setting which necessitates the erdtree. Then the crucible is "where all life was blended together" which makes returning to it just getting smashed back into the life soup.

People can't die, and that's the bottom line, and they "died" by faceplanting erdtree roots, and now that doesn't work anymore. The explanation? Erdtree is fucked, if you discredit the greattree nonsense then root resin explicitly reads "The catacombs ain't connected yo"
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>>483335258
Is Marika alive in any of the endings? We don't actually see her alive
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>>483333284
I like Milady for the cool moveset. The mix of actual semi-realistic sword manual techniques with the fanciful spinning really works nicely. My only minor complaint is that I wish the hilt had more of a crossguard. Rellana's twinblades would win out for me if I could two-hand her main sword instead, I'm a sucker for Carian aesthetics. Also I wish the two-hand animation had the old Dark Souls 2 two-handing pose where you hold it down and to the side.
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can miyazaki please make a game that doesn't feature his pedophilic little boy fetish for once? just ONE game, please?
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>>483338385
Lightning spark perfume bottle fucking melts them
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>>483338643
Man I dodge roll straight to the left, I dodge maybe the first two and the other 2-3 catch me and then Radahn himself flies in to finish the job.
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>>483336731
where is this third tree sentinel? i'm looking and i cant find it
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>>483334971
How long until the discord raid drops the narrative that str/int was even something more than str build with some magic on the side?
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>>483338496
you should dodge the AoE pull in the first place
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>>483338704
Then explain the piles of dead dudes you see all the time around the map and what happens to the people WE kill
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>>483336641
STR hands down because its a defensive stat
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Came across Romina, and killed her after dying several times

Behind her church there seems to be some sort of lift with a shadow tree. Haven't killed Messmer yet. What's the deal with this, can this lift go somewhere?
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>>483333723
>One shot attacks (Yes I'm 60 vigor)
Liar. At 0 fragments with that vigor there is only 1 one shot attack and it's the grab.
>Boss interrupting if you do anything
Liar.
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What about Milady + Bloodhound step?
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>you can permanently miss out on the upgraded bewitching branch if you don't talk to moore before the seal breaks
FUCK. This is the fourth time I've had to reset progress to before the seal breaking.
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How the fuck are you supposed to dodge Radahn's Left Slash Right Slash Cross Slash combo? Rolling into the left slash gets you hit, rolling with the left slash gets you hit, rolling into the boss or away gets you hit.
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>>483338852
Kill Messmer
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>no shadow snake transformation ash from Messmer
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>watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY3GtY0ctic because someone linked it in a previous thread
>erm, actually, this ash of war might LOOK cool, but it's actually stinky doo-doo because it does 1.33 (repeating, of course) less stance damage than Lion's Claw
>erm, actually, this ash of war might FEEL fun, but it's technically more efficient to spam charged R2 with the same weapon so i'm putting this one in the C tier
>everything needs to have hyper armor or it's bad, including this ash of war that is deleting 20% of Malenia's HP in one L2
>all of this analysis for FUCKING PVE of all things
i understand that content creation is a grift, but how do people enjoying playing the game like this? it's a fantasy RPG and you're exclusively playing PVE content where there is no onus to be optimal or efficient. the only purpose of PVE is to do what feels and looks sick as shit, not what "technically optimal".
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>>483338852
After you kill messmer, yes
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>>483338435
God I wish. I WISH
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>>483336641
DEX and FTH the biggest winners, but everyone got at least a few cool things.
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>>483338946
Yeah I assumed I needeed, just wanted a spoiler of where this lift goes
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Is it me or does the Milady perform better than it's attack rating would suggest?
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>>483333351
please help, i can't get him below half health he just starts nuking everything in phase 2
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Why are all the new weapons so terrible.
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>>483338704
I mean there's so many fucking instances of peoples souls being moved from body A to Body B. I think the Erd Tree does exactly that just en masse.
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Someone watch this and give me permission to cheese him.

https://files.catbox.moe/k25uld.mkv
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>>483338963
I would agree with you if the bosses in this DLC were not designed the way they were
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>>483337940
anyone?
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>>483338897
I only delivered the black syrup before breaking the seal, oops.
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>>483339048
Light greatswords are broken
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>>483338725
She's stated as still being alive. Something about still being a god. I can't remember who said it. She's just broken.
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>>483338013
It's just one broken move. All they need to do is reduce the tracking slightly and remove the back leg hitbox on the charge and it's fine.
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>>483338851
explain
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>>483333534
I'm sorry but BAAAAAAAAAAAAYLE clears him, he's way cooler and the build up to going up the mountain is pure kino.
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>>483338704
Different forms of afterlife is still death.
Again, only the demigods were affected by the rune of death sealing.
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>>483338817
I agree but if you fail to dodge it in phase it's just an auto game over?
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rellana's fast swipe is impossible to react for me.. is there any tell for that attack?
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>>483339060
Skill isssue, been having a lot of fun with Devonia's Hammer
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Goldmask won btw. Marika and rannifags lost.
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>>483338963
>everything needs to have hyper armor or it's bad
that's sadly correct though since every enemy has a ranged attack or a lunge that will knock you out of the weapon art and let them start yet another long combo on you
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>tfw faith/strength build at Gay Radahn
what's a good enchantment that he doesn't resist? Phase 1 takes more damage from holy but in Phase 2 he just resists it
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>>483339106
Broken as in OP or as in numbers behind them aren't working as they should?
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>>483339067
>click this
>starts downloading a 50mb file
yeah no
make a webm you fucking retard
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I don' give a shit about using the dragon katana with the dragon slash attack on Bayle
That fucker got so many cheap shots at me when he was at 10%
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Rellana is genuinely not that hard. Her attacks that hit hard are extremely telegraphed.
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>>483339212
Taker's Flame spam.
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>>483339204
I married Marika in the Age of Order ending though
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>>483337873
Based Malenia is a cuck
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>>483339060
Which ones specifically? Almost every weapon I've tried has been great and a few are downright broken
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>>483338823
>Then explain the piles of dead dudes
Ghost nigga or not actually dead
>what happens to the people WE kill
Game mechanics, ghost niggas

I'm literally just formulating this off of fucking game text, I don't really care about "le npc doesn't respawn" as that can be handwaived away as both game mechanics and literally other items like helphen
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Stale the Bread is down
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>>483339149
Some stats have hidden bonuses, every point of str increases your physical defense.
Dex points increase casting speed, they also reduce fall damage and make it harder to get knocked off Torrent.
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What level should I be for co-op? All my characters are 120.
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>>483339331
She's depowered and lobotimized.
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>>483336641
STR/Faith was the winning combo.

Arcane was the ""loser"" but it's more that it was BY FAR the strongest stat (and still is) so it's more like the other stats just caught up a bit.
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Does any anons know what the talisman of dread works on?
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What am I supposed to do with my runes? I don't wanna level past 150. It makes me feel dirty.
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>>483339204
Marika is still a god in the Goldmask ending. But she probably doesn't want to be one anymore, so I guess it is a loss for her
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>shield
>does higher damage than 90% of weapons
Why?
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>You cannot exeptionally swap the Ash of War or Ordovis/Seluria/Devonia weapons for the Crucible Wings
>No Crucible Incantation for Devonia's weird centaur/ape attack

Why must we suffer
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bros I'm dying because of 40 fps
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>>483333823
Isn't torrent a small ancestral spirit? They literally do the same double jump shit.
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>>483338735
What ash u using? also, two handed milady?
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>>483339363
>dex increases casting speed
You're lying.
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>>483339229
as in OP
>reach and damage of normal gs with straightswords swing speed
>great moveset
>probably the best guard counter weapon in the dlc about guard counters
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why do I ONLY get summoned to maliketh when I send summon signs to all pools. I have all of them unlocked in the DLC.
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>>483339448
Shield attacks have zero hyperarmor. You get interrupted by every attack.
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>>483339265
>50mb is too big for me
3rd world internet detected
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>>483339363
Is it actually a noticeable amount?
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>>483339431
She's depowered and has no influence on the golden order anymore. That's the entire point. At best she's a figurehead now
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>yet another drake fight
>except it one-shots you and you have to wait 5 minutes as it kills the weaker one
delightful. wonderful even
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>>483339153
no idea. i always got hit by that one. he just didn't do it on my successful run.
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>>483339428
You realize that RL meta is tranny fanfiction and you level up.
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>>483338804
dunno he just rolled up after I killed the two and went up to the village. Same spot as the first shield guy. Idk where the fuck he came from
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>>483339204
>RANNI RANNI RANNI RANNI
mindbroken
she won
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The fuck is their problem?
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Rolling sparks is 100% getting nerfed right?
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>Commander Gaius has a second phase
What the fuck, Miyazaki.
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>I AM MALENIA BLADE OF MIQUELLA AND I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A HAPPY KEK
Why did Miyazaki have Malenia say this in the new opening cutscene that plays if you beat Radahn/Miquella before fighting her?
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>>483333284
bloodfiend's arm is so dumb it's actually insane
you can get a bleed with one heavy attack
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>>483338963
>All of this analysis for [99% OF THE GAME] of all things
Yeah?
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>Midra cutscene
>literally forgive me zanzibart
sasuga Miyagi
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I finally figured it out bros. Every time Radahn enters the air he resets aggro to the player. That's what is going on with Radahn's AI. Every time he jumps into the air and lands he faces the player first and tries to go for you regardless of distance or who is hitting him.
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>>483339693
yeah, and it'll get nerfed before swift slash does as the icing on the cake
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>>483339428
Buy a fuck load of smithing stones because there are hardly any smithing stones drops in the DLC
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>no incantation that lets you instantly kill players with "heart stolen" if you can grab them twice in 15 seconds
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>please talk about Goldmask and Ranni
holy 2022 who cares about these irrelevant characters
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>>483336769
it's just a boring, empty, dark and way too large area that you can't use torrent in for meme reasons (torrent is fine riding into dragons, but he's afraid of... le madness?)
literally not hard, just annoying
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I'm not sure if I should be happy Melina isn't in this DLC or sad she got no more content.
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So, Radahn has so much HP my build with 80 of my damage stat plus max level weapon isn't really doing much damage.
I guess I'll embrace the bleed, poison and frostbite.
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>>483339632
Jagged Peak Drake is such a gay fight, they didn't even reskin them a bit
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>>483339629
Is she permanently immobile or can she recover? If she can, if the the Tarnished ever dies, shits all in the air again
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>fire everything
i need a non-fire weapon for my Fire Knight build for when I inevitably fight Messmer or someone hyper resistant to Fire. What should it be? It's 50/50 fth/dex 22 str for Fire Knight GS and Impaler Spear (eventually)
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>>483338725
We don't encounter anything else that has become a god to the same level marika has. For all we know radagon is just wearing her empty husk.
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>>483339648
>tranny fanfiction
Ironic considering overlevelling is a distinctly trannoid thing to do. You get all the stat points you could ever want at 150. Anything more is just unnecessary bloat.
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>>483338963
He is ranking the things, and he is pretty much correct in his assertions, though i do agree with you that its a goddamn pve game and there is no need to optimize shit an instead just having fun is enough.

Its also a good guide on knowing what needs some fucking buffs.
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>tfw failed at killing messmer yesterday
>emotionally and physically drained all day
>slept
>woke up today
>drank some literal game GG energy
>beat messmer
>killed the weird bug boss afterward
>go to the gym and kill it
This game decides my emotional and physical power.
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where did that fat armor guy go?
i found freyja and ansbach in the shadow keep storeroom, leda is still outside castle ensis and the poison guy said he was leaving for the coast
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How am I supposed to get to the low places? I've somehow managed to get to Bayle and Romina without issue but I feel retarded right now.
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>>483339810
You should just forget about Melina like the writers did.
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I choose ranni despite hating her. Why is that?
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How many of you niggas missed out on this? I lost a lot of progress going back to get it.
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>>483339151
>Again, only the demigods were affected by the rune of death sealing.
Yep, this is my theory. Demigods are literally immortal in body and can not die, everyone else turns into a ghost and lured to the erdtree or gets eaten by the erdtree. Death is business as usual for everyone else but demigods with DD sealed, You can NOT die without contacting the crucible, crucible = erdtree, erdtree = fucked, you can't die, thus zombies and ghosts. Unsealing DD just makes it so the demigods can die in body like everybody else (i.e. they can turn into ghosts)
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>>483339204
Is this just a single mindbroken Goldmaskfag unable to deal with the fact that his idol has been "communicating" with literally nothing?
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>>483339795
Think they'll fix it by preventing more than one or two hits, or just nerf it to uselessness as a whole?
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>>483339929
Hey fuck you.
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>>483333284
I've been using the Cold Executioners Greataxe for 30 hours because I can't find any STR/INT weapons to use, hell I can't even find any STR weapons to infuse
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what damage type is madness stuff? holy?
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>>483336769
Running away from an Aged One on the heavy fog area was very spoopy ngl
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>>483339703
he just buffs that's not really a second phase. Just call Torrent and away when he flies up in the air and then double jump over the aoe and then jump attack leap off torrent for a free attack.
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>>483339559
wait, the battle shield doesn't auto guard while attacking?
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>>483337263
>Gets bodied by Morgott
If he lead a charge on leyndell? Yea, otherwise who knows.
>Gets bodied by Malenia
LMAO No, this DLC makes Malenia look like a stupid suicide bomber and failed
>Gets bodied by the Tarnished
Canonically, several tarnished, a wolfman, and a jar fighting a brainrotted husk of his Radahn who is still also holding back the stars
>Miquella: 'Hmm I need the strongest warrior as my consort'
Not even the reason why Radahn is Miquella's consort, he needed another Demigod to be a consort so he could become a god, and the perfect fit was a reborned prime Radahn who would mind controlled at rebirth who no one would notice is missing because he's "dead" like Ranni.
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>>483333284
I'm in love
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>>483339526
It's true. All Radagon Icon does is give you 40 virtual DEX .
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>>483334351
>However, damage dealt to those who live in death will have no such effect
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FUCK THIS DOGSHIT ASS GARBAGE BOSS LITERALLY THE WORST BOSS FROMSOFT HAS EVER MADE
IF I WANTED TO PLAY MONSTER HUNTER I WOULD PLAY MONSTER HUNTER
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>>483338214
No
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>>483339958
It isn't a theory. People that don't die wouldn't build graves.
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>>483333926
how so
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>>483340010
>what kind of damage is yellow fire
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>>483338936
help me faggots
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>>483339941
whats the significance of it?
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>>483339860
I'm having the same issue. Basically cycling between ashes to see what works rn.
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>>483339526
I am not, Dex has done this since Dark Souls 1.

>>483339616
Yes. The cap for Dex increasing your casting speed is 70. Radagon Icon talisman grants an invisible +30 Dex and Azur's Glintstone Staff grants an invisible +40 Dex
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>>483339967
Yes
It's the one who's been around for ages
His woman moment shit got disproven since it turns out Marika was right to break the Ring (Metyr's been bullshitting) and genocide the omens (LOL hornsent) and now he's melting down
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>>483340095
You don't want to play monster hunter and yet you are hunting a monster. Curious.
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>>483339847
The only endings she can't recover in where she explicitly doesn't die are fracture and goldmask. You can still plap her in both but she's a statue. Even if tarnished dies there'll still be a golden order around, it's just that it's not run by marika and instead the calculations of gold mask, running more competently but still running. It has the problems it still has with less of the "you're a heretic die" that marika's reign had. Those who live in death are still suffering omens too likely.
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>>483337940
>>483339095
If I recall correctly there are two ways into the castle, but the way I got in was through the back and its separate from the main castle.
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>>483339526
That's literally what it does.
>All spells have two consecutive animations, the startup animation and the casting animation. Dexterity affects the startup animation while the casting animation remains constant for all spells.
>The length of the startup animation will slightly decrease with each point invested in Dexterity. At 0 Dexterity, you'll play the entire startup animation before the actual cast, at 35 Dexterity, you'll play 50% of the startup animation before the actual cast.
>The cap for casting speed is at 70 Dexterity, meaning once you've invested 70 points in Dexterity, you'll skip the entire startup animation and go straight into the actual casting animation. If you go past 70 Dexterity, the casting speed won't increase anymore.
>There are some items that provide virtual Dexterity for spellcasting. Radagon Icon grants you +30 >Virtual Dexterity and Azur's Glintstone Staff grants you +40 Virtual Dexterity. These items effectively increase your casting speed if you have them equipped. This means you can achieve the max casting speed at 70 Dexterity if you have both of these items equipped and have the same effect without investing any points in Dexterity.
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>>483340025
Thrusting shields do. Regular shields and greatshields don't.
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people keep saying the Perfumes are overpowered, but mine don't deal much damage (mostly using the lightning one). what am I missing?
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How are you meant to dodge Radahn's holy meteor attack, it seems to kill me from full health even spamming endure. Can it actually be dodged?
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My Fuarking hero and his kind cute wife
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>>483339724
that's not the point. the point is that it's PVE, there's no need to optimize it to death because doing so is essentially depriving yourself of more gameplay. would you rather fight Mohg with a cool RP build where it feels like you're dancing with the boss for 3 minutes straight, or fight him with an optimized build that melts his entire HP bar before he even has a chance to cast nihil?

i just don't get it at all. it's the definition of "optimizing the fun out of the game", unless you get off on raw data like this guy or Chrightt, i guess.
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>>483339870
Developers made spells with requirements in the 70s, clearly they intend people to keep leveling, TRANNY
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Quelaag thicc she got that gamer girl booty
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>>483340095
Funny when you say that because after finishing the dlc, in fact, I will put down the game and go back to monster hunter world.
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>>483340058
So assuming this is true. I run a mgs with 80 int
Should I dump into str for more mgs damage or dex for cast speed and twin blade bonus?
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>>483340237
rolling sparks ash of war
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>>483335943
NIGGERKILLER ROLLO
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>>483339860
Post full stats? Looking for build comparisons.
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My 60 int lets me sit so wisely that I float
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>>483340121
is it fire? doesn't look very firey. some almost look like lightning bolts due to the color.
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>The bodies of the half the gang from the start of the dlc strewn about after the battle
grim
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>>483338103
Ah, you too have the same good taste in Banished Knight Helm and Cleanrot armor taste.
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>>483340348
>is "frenzied flame" fire
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>Blessing of Marika full heals Mimic Tear
Well I guess Radahn is finally going to die now.
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Hey anons! I am a colossal weapon user. (I use the guts sword) Since I completely lack any original creativity when it comes to making or testing my own builds, can someone please direct me to a better massive greatsword from the DLC that I can use? I am almost done with the DLC, but I am so fucking bored with using gut's greatsword paired with lion's claw that I feel like essentially a way to beat the game by being a drooling fucking retard. Anyone else have any fun big weapons to use for people who like massive throbbing metal sticks that are fun to swing?
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>>483338103
What is this
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>>483340342
leveling Dex up to 35 on my way to 125; 50 dex is the goal, along with 10 more to vig or fth but i havent decided which yet
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>>483340418
Fire knight greatsword
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>>483339537
Ganks just got a shiny new tool
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>>483340348
>literally fire but yellow
>every single madness weapon is fire
>madness incants proc every fire effect
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>>483333284
Messmer's Spear. Just wish it had some of the abyss snake in it's ash.
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>>483339967
>>483340193
I'd also like to point out that he's a confirmed maleniafag who's melting that marika got character redemption, ranni was proven right about the fingers in the ending, and malenia was shit all over. It's why he keeps seething about ranni and marika. The dlc mindbroke him
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/image/t8dhpDis_FdcB9qfoDD3hQ/
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>>483340129
>>483340327
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>>483340205
By recover I'm wondering if she can return to a totally normal state. I'm not even sure her spirit is alive anymore or if the Elden Beast is just using her soulless body as a vessel at this point
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>hornsent - I HAVE MY REVENGE!
>hornsent - I must now murder EVERYONE
>invades you
Disappointing.
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>>483340214
I'm sorry anon, but I dont get what you are saying. Can you explain how do I get to the circled area?
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>>483338219
its basically confirmed at this point see >>483334134
>>483340383
They are permadead
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>>483339526
>Elden Ring is now old enough to be a significant amount of gamers' first entry in the souls series so they don't know things like this
I'm so fucking old now
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>>483340267
>here's that gamer girl that likes dark souls that I told you about
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>MY self-imposted restriction is how YOU'RE supposed to play the game!
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>>483340225
there's a new cast speed talisman, is that +70 i wonder?
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>Goldmask spent his entire life talking to a being that had long since left the world and never replied
>Fucking dies
WHAT A FUCKING FAILURE HOLY SHIT
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>>483340128
Just parry lol
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>Miquella was in Caelid when Malenia sharted herself and did nothing to help her
>She wasn't even in the middle of a battle, Finlay was running away with her and he literally could have come over and cured her of the rot like he did to Freyja
>Instead he just peaces out and immediately goes to plan B with Mohg
>This was before he split his "good side" into St Trina so even before he became an even bigger asshole he still didn't give a shit about Malenia
All those Maleniafags/Miquellafags writing fanfiction and posting shitty art for two years of Miquella and Malenia loving each must be on suicide watch right now.
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>>483339632
>he didn't immediately dive in and 1v2 them
COWARD

>>483339794
i keep meaning to try this. i've been using the greathammer in invasions and while it's hilarious to catch people in the full R2 (it traps people), it doesn't have enough hyper armor to survive the typical 3v1 rape session regularly.
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>>483340205
Does Marika die in omen and fia ending?

>by the calculations of goldmask
This is really the crux of the issue
I just don't trust the guy, he has no feats, he has no proof, he has nothing now that we know the GO was made up from scratch by Metyr and Marika. How likely is it that even with the GO restored (without the rune of death since we don't have it) it'll be nothing more than a gilded veneer over a foundation of rot and mildew? Like, the circumstances that lead to the golden age no longer exist. Metyr isn't around anymore and/or is powerless to do anything. Marika herself seems to have been a kind and able administrator but Goldmask specifically purges the kindness out of the Order, whereas the tree spell calls it Marika's personal secret, "only the kindness of gold without the Order". If you take away the kindness and leave only the Order is that even something good?
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>>483340253
It's not like he's telling you not to use them (besides a few garbage tier stuff), just that they have issues
The hyperarmor thing is also important since getting interrupted out of your cool attack feels miserable
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>>483340417
Is blessing of Marika a single use consumable or does it work like the physik?
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>>483340585
What did you expect from a filthy beast?
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>>483340446
Some lightning faggot about 15 minutes from the end of the game.
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>>483338869
Yeah sure. I decided to lie about myself being a shitter at the game. For some reason. And I can't recognise basic mechanics like my health bar shrinking in a flash or the boss attacking me the moment I do anything. Even though I have over 200 hours in the game and have played through it multiple times. Avoiding using spirit ashes outside of duo encounters. Yup. For sure.
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what's the region progression? Belurat to Censis, sure, but when should I actually go to the Shadow Keep? I went there directly after Belurat in my first run.
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>>483333284
Rellana's Twin Blades. 1 handed is the same moveset as Milady, and the R2 skill art is amazing at staggering. Just wish it gave you some hyper armor, and the R1s should stagger.
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is blinding me with light spears and miquella's hair so i can't see radahn's attacks part of the design
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>>483340664
this but unironically
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>>483340732
single use but there's like 3 of them
get ready for EVERY sweaty pvpnigger to have one of these btw
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>>483340624
miss chalice is the superior ethot
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>look up how to get swift slash
>siding with an npc i sided against
whelp
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>>483340636
>This game is HARD and for real gamers
>I did this thing (not cheesing or hacking) that made it really easy
>NOOOOOOO IT'S HARD IF YOU DON'T USE THE THINGS THAT MAKE IT EASY
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>>483333723
I had a bit of trouble until collecting more scrimblo fragments, I don't even know what his second phase really does since he fell over so fast at blessing level 14 kek
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>>483340491
Thanks.
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>>483340643
It is, but it also reduces resistances by 30% (twice what a soreseal does).
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>>483340263
You can comfortably hit 80 in your primary offensive stat alongside 60 vigor at 150, you just don't get to have enough endurance to use the fingerprint greatshield while wearing full bullgoat or enough mind to spam your shit with reckless abandon.
If you levelled past 150 you simply didn't beat the game.
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How many frames of "invulnerability" do you get with Raptor of the Mists?
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>>483340597
circle around the lake west of that next grace with Leda until you can drop down to that circled area and you can then access that mini fort.
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I just want an ending where I save and marry Melina and fix the dumb bullshit the gods did
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>>483340653
He never talked to the greater will.
He was communicating with the mother of fingers.
His entire ending is based around some finger waggling lies.
Removing the influence of the "gods" is just the finger mother in panic mode over Marika.
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dagger or small shield for parrying
yes including aesthetic
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>>483340971
why only have one offensive stat?
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>>483340828
Craftable? Obviously will be duped to fuck but I mean for us non-gay PvPers
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There's no evidence that Goldmask did or didn't contact the greater will, what is up with this schizo fanfiction? Anti-finger posters still ignoring that Metyr did receive signs from the greater will. GW later fucked off? Yes. Fingers making shit up? Later, but they still received instructions at the start.
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I guess this is the clue that lets you know you can parry the eye dudes in the woods.
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So why the fuck did we get Radahn again instead of Godwyn
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>Try using mimic after failing to beat Radahn for over 3 hours
>Nearly beat him first try and have to kill myself to stop myself from winning
Using mimic is like playing a different game.
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>>483340128
Keep rolling diagonally into him, it works especially well for P2
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>Slay Jori
>Expect to teleport out of dungeon, as always after killing a boss
>But wait, there is more
kino
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>>483341082
Not to my knowledge
It's like the golden fia hug I think, it's even got the same hold limit of 1/1 and 0/600 in storage
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>>483341002
Such an ending already exists
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD
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>runebear duo
>walk 10 feet
>legendary runebear
Jesus actual christ
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>>483340716
Nta but I honestly think the fia ending is the only one where marika would be happy. Her son isn't properly reborn as it's just a rune but it's still something made by him to aid those created by his half death. It would probably make her happy knowing something of her beloved godwyn lives on. And if he is somehow actually reborn through fia you and marika gets her baby boy back. If you love marika duskborn is the way to go. It may be the only one she's even remotely happy in.
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>>483340829
Obviously.
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>>483341131
You now realize why people who beat the game by summoning spirit ashes complain when they actually have to play the game for real in the DLC
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>>483341010
Greater will paladin niggers seething, crying, and prepping their bulls
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>>483341109
sounds lewd
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>>483341145
Welcome to the spoopy woods
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>>483341109
Can they be killed with some obscure method or do they not even have health bars?
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>>483340716
>a gilded veneer over a foundation of rot and mildew
I think this is exactly what the golden order is. The golden tree is just an image of things working how it once was, placed over the corpse of the broken and shattered tree.
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is it just me or is the putrescent cleaver kind of mediocre
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>>483341131
>using a punching bag that takes away the boss's attention from you and let's you get free hits in the whole fight is like playing a different game
You don't say?
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>>483338936
Hug Radahn's left side, roll into his left arm and if you angled it correctly you avoid the 2nd slash.
That's your only option outside of a shield, it's the only borderline unfair move in his kit and one I could see From nerf but they probably won't.
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Is Scadu level 14 too low for Radahn
Because going around to go pick up some more sounds terrible
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>>483340502
>something fun to farm
thanks anon
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>>483341147
Thanks - guess I'll hold onto it for something clutch then
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>>483341025
Daggers are awful for parrying because of their stability, if you miss your stamina is 100% gone.
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I'm so tapped out on ER lore, I thought Zanzibart was a real thing in it.
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>>483341098
Ymir says that the GW fucked off literally as soon as Metyr made landfall more or less and that the fingers were fucked up from birth
Even if we say Ymir is making shit up we know that by the time of the game they're ABSOLUTELY not receiving anything anymore
Goldmask simply isn't alive at the right time to communicate with the GW even if the GW only fucked off at the Shattering
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>>483341126
le subvert your expectations
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>>483341145
My only complain with this area is that it's too big. Honestly, the dungeon in it should have been a short walk away from where Jori is, and the stealth sections meaningfully integrated into it.
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>on my way down the fissure
>Suddenly golden misbegotten ghost
>Drops a ring spell with no InT requirement

Is the Putrescent Knight weak to holy?
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Sleep or madness?
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>>483341205
That's why even the Ash have their own Scadufrags because even From released people were relying on Mimic way too hard
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>>483340237
You need to stack buffs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nqjz5R8LrU
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>>483341253
Parry them
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>>483341098
>WAAAAAAAAAAH BUT MY PURE CHRISTIAN GOLDMASK WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 100% RIGHT
sorry, chuddie
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>>483341035
So that you can have build identities and capping multiple stats makes hybrid shit too broken but if you have to even ask this question then no matter what I say you will not understand cause you inherently don't understand the core appeal of these games.
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>>483341353
I always thought that why Corhyn starts freaking the fuck out, Goldmask is going against the GW and GO and wants to usurp it with his own version, Corhyn doesn't know why the fuck he's going in this direction.
Now it's clear he wasn't following the GW at all.
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FUCK THE FINGER WORMS AND THEIR HOMING BEAM THAT KNOCKS YOU OFF TORRENT WHO THEN PROCEED TO EAT YOU FUUUUUUUU
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>>483341308
I have tried every cheese build in the book at skibidi 16 and I am about ready to turn around and go find some more fragments. I'm also bad at the game so take that as you will.
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>you're Marika the shaman
>horn fucks ruin everything
>you're Marika the goddess
>give birth to two horn fucks (but somehow worse)
No wonder she fucking despises Omen.
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Is there a guide on missable/skippable stuff so I know what not to fuck up?
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Did the divine gate even fucking work any more? It looks nothing like what we saw in the trailer, had miquella JUST "revived" radahn? Would miquella have needed to genocide billions to rejuice the gate?
Had he already used the gate?
>of a god and a lord
Then why is he such a fucking pussy?
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>>483341308
My dude, I was at 17 when I killed him with 1 summon and a mimic. And even then I had to do the bloodfiend 220 bleed build with max armor, max shield and still struggled. That boss is seriously retarded.
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did i just fuck myself out of a quest line?
leda says she is after hornset in shadow keep
i go to shadow keep, end up walking into messmer's room and then dying
find out there are summoning signs for both of them outside the storehouse but now there are none
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>walk for 30 minutes
>find nothing
>smithing stone [1]
epic open world guys!
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>>483341469
They die from being parried? Do they drop anything?
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>>483341473
>Goldmask
>Christian
Goldmask literally realizes Jesus = God and has a meltdown over the idea so he tells God that actually he knows the bible better than Him
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>>483340771
Correct, you're not only lying to us but to yourself, your seethe has blinded you.
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>>483339395
120-150 seems to be where most people hover. some are going to 170 and beyond just because of the sheer volume of runes you can get from the DLC.
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>>483340994
ok, thank you!
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Does the DLC give any more context to Ranni's ending?
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>>483341145
As soon as they took Torrent away, I realized there isn't shit to explore in the area.
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>>483341497
what is the core appeal of the game, oh wise one?
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>>483341514
Corhyn doesn't know shit, he's a GO fanatic that sperged out because Goldmask wanted to do something new rather than restore the old GO. He definitely doesn't know what the GW wants lmao
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>>483341497
Anon
The dlc literally gives you enough runes to go way past lvl 150...
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120 is a relic from DS1, how have we not ditched it yet?
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I choose the ranni ending because I hate ranni and love marika. The game establishes that godhood is a prison even without elden beast or golden order thanks to the dlc, that it made marika unhappy and trapped. She lived her early life seeing her people genocided, her golden age came but went with her clearly becoming more and more mournful of her position as God even before godwyn's death. Now she's stuck in a vegetative state where, even as a god and returned she still lost everything and everyone she held dear to her. I think the best ending is for godhood to go to ranni, simply because marika can finally die and get some rest, hopefully her soul going to wherever her family's went to so she can be with them all again. But most importantly, the killer of her son, ranni, gets to suffer for eternity in the same prison as she was put into and has to do it without any extended family or friends or kids. Just the tarnished there. Otherwise ranni is alone to suffer in space for eternity. It's a hell essentially. And exactly what the ranni deserves.
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>>483341353
>Ymir says
Ok, post discarded. You're taking lore from a tranny that thinks his dead child is walking around the floor?
>not receiving anything anymore
Doesn't matter, putting a tarnished on the throne as elden lord was a great idea by the fingers, and it WORKS, instead of waiting for the demigods to win their eons-long stalemate. And again, no reason to know if he did or didn't. But even if he is a schizo, making it so Marika or another god can't tamper with the laws of reality is a W no matter how you put it.
Even if they're wrong they're still right.
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>>483341661
She was the moon's puppet. She didn't avoid her fate, she walked right into it.
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On scadu altus and so far no dlc weapon has managed to surpass rivers of blood, rakshasa great katana is cool and all but the weapon art is fucking lame.
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I beat Radahn with 30 Vigor this was hell but I did it, I still have to kill Bayle but as soon as I step foot in his arena a firebreath 1 shots me
Radahn was actually fun, Bayle is a camera eating nigger
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>>483341689
Is Coryhn even a TRVE GO fanatic
He's got the prophet set and sells catch flame, the description for the prophet start is that they saw a vision of ruinous flame and were condemned for it
It feels like Coryhn saw the Erdtree burning
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>>483339395
put one character between 150 and 200, people will have a lot of levels for SotE
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>>483341518
>cast unseen form
>just run around with torrent and they can't see you
INTchads win again
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>>483341642
I think the Plebbit meta of 150 is about to become 200 or at least 175.
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Is there any reason at all to use one katana instead of two?
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>>483339050
fuck you bayle, i needed to respec to cheese him with the dragon hunter katana, feeling like crap now, fuck whoever made that piece of shit
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>mIquella fags exist
>when literally every character in the game points out how shit miq is and to kill miq
>except the crew who are literally slaughtering nonbelievers for no reason
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most useless fucking general thread
no one answers a fucking thing
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>>483341514
My read was Goldmask was more observing the world around him rather than listening to religious dogma, and his conclusions is not from getting divine inspiration but from his observations. Basically him trying to change religion to deism cosmic watchmaker type rather than the more prophet based type.
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>>483339939
>Why is that?
Because she has the most fleshed out quest line and is so obviously the canon ending? Everyone other character dies, gets a fucking horrible ending like Sellen, or just completely fucks off like Rya.
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>>483341765
Kind of based ngl
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>>483341785
>putting a tarnished on the throne as elden lord was a great idea by the fingers
It wasn't an idea by the fingers. It was Marika's idea. Do you seriously think the Fingers are the ones who are granting you the guidance of grace and resurrecting you? Marika is the one waiting for you to show up so you can kill the Elden Beast, Marika was the one who banished the Tarnished in the first place so that they could be revived when the time was right.
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Is Mirians vanishing at all viable in PvE is it just a pvp spell?
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>>483341308
Nevermind I just beat him with the best RNG I could have hoped for get fucked I'm never buying a Miyahacki game ever again.
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>>483341554
Complete all NPC quests before you kill Messmer, the only missable one to my knowledge for that point is Leda attempting to assassinate Hornset which you find the dualing signs in the rampart right before you open the shortcut back to and from the hippo boss area. Everything else is safe until you burn the sealing tree where then you get Farum Azula locked into the final area and all the quests ether end or continue to the final stage.
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How the fuck do you properly avoid Radahn's phase two super nuke? It even bursts through the Opaline Bubble tears
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>>483341949
What do you want answered little baby
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>>483333220
>Bricked myself from getting the dragon princess ashes
It's so over.
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someone needs to time the downtime between attacks comparing Bayle to like literally any other dragon in any other FromSoft game. Bayle sometimes does two completely different attacks half a second after the last one.
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>>483341785
Yeah you get it. Marika is at best deposed but alive and at worst comatose. Either way she can't affect the golden order anymore and the tarnished gets to fuck who he pleases without getting cucked by her. Gold mask is the only good ending. No matter how sad marikas backstory is, she's still a shitty person.
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>>483340253
it's still nice to know if something is just mathematically/mechanically dogshit because From are retarded. i don't minmax and usually theme my characters but i don't go out of my way to gimp myself either.
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I despise dragon bosses so much bros
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>>483339663
They're eepy
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>>483341595
Frenzy Exultation
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>>483342029
Which one?
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>>483342016
See you next DLC/ER2/IP
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>shitty person
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>>483334653
>impossible with the usual R1 roll roll roll R1 vs bosses
boooooooooooooo
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Okay Rabbath's cannon is pretty fun.
Its like have a back pocket spell to cast on a pure Str setup.

Its range and tracking are amazing.
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>>483341992
>It was Marika's idea
I don't think we'll ever get a solid answer on that because of Gideon's revelation.
>Do you seriously think the Fingers are the ones who are granting you the guidance of grace and resurrecting you?
They're the ones organizing the hold and the tarnished.
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>>483341716
So does the base game. Your point? The fact of the matter is that you don't need it. There's a reason every overlevelled trannoid is some bullgoat-fingerprintshield-bleed-int subhuman.
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>>483341253
no, i played around with them using cheat engine and they only have a health bar after being parried. you can still damage their poise bar but crits don't do anything either. they only flag for damage if you parry them.

i didn't try any magic or status effects but i imagine they're immune to them as well
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>>483341962
Nah that's retarded, since his big moment comes from learning about a point of theology.
For me the description of the Minor Erdtree incantation is the cincher on making Goldmask a bad ending.

>Secret incantation of Queen Marika.
>Only the kindness of gold, without Order.

>Creates a small, illusory Erdtree that continuously restores the HP of nearby allies.

>Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal.

The kindness of gold, without Order vs. the Order of gold, without any kindness
I know which one I'd rather live under
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>>483341565
>walk
uh bro they gave you a horse! btw we scaled everything up by x3 so now you can horseback ride for 30 minutes to find nothing. At least the skybox is pretty. $40 please
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>>483341329
gotcha, thanks. did buckler get nerfed into line with other small shield parries or is it still better?
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>>483342201
Clarified "super nuke" since it's a bigger nuke than Miquella's spell.
The one where he divebombs the arena.
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>>483342205
doing this passive aggressive "I'm le not le replying to you" shit in a general this fast is retarded bro, he probably didn't even see your post and the rest of us aren't going to scroll all the way up looking for what made you seethe.
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>>483342029
greatshield
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>>483341949
i got answered
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>>483341595
Yes, the very first one drops a talisman, the rest drop swollen grape/eyes crafting materials
Thanks anon from yesterday who pointed it out, I left a message in game to where the lantern spawns to encourage idiots to kill themselves lol.
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>>483342285
>You don't need it
You don't need any levels at all, faggot.
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There could have been a kickass boss fight here. 1v1 against some mad swordsman in a field of blue flowers, like in bloodborne and sekiro but a different color palette.
Is this whole area of the map really this fukkin empty?
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>>483341949
NYPA newfag, try /r/eldenring
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>>483342254
>because of Gideon's revelation.
Gideon literally just gets crestfallen, his revelation is that Marika wants you to kill the Elden Beast and he doesn't think that's possible so he loses his mind and despairs
You meet the crestfallen knight immediately upon entering Roundtable Hold but he doesn't turn crestfallen until the end of the game
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>>483342326
I'd rather live under a world where the law is impartial, where everyone is equally effected by death and the laws of reality, instead of reality being potentially unwritten by a screeching woman that can make me into a creature that looks like the lordsworn or aristocrats and have to spend thousands of years starving and not dying.
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>Light greatswords have less stagger than a straight sword
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>>483341937
I'm too busy listening to you while Miquella's asshole is squeezing my dick.
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>>483342137
this looks like some indie game for 15 bucks
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>>483341535
this dlc made me like Marika more. if a bunch of horned retards shoved my family and people into jars to turn them into primordial ooze then i'd probably freak the fuck out too
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>>483342487
>le screeching woman
I didn't ask you, goldmasktard
I understand you literally lose your mind at the sight of titties, go rewatch Tate or whatever and calm down
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>>483333284
Milady for sure.
I love Rellana's for the super unique moveset with the L1s and R1s but dualwielding put me off along with the weird scaling stuff.
Being able to infuse this with whatever ash/scaling/buff I want is supreme. Having a lot of fun trying out different infusions on it, really liking using it with the new Messmer fire but otherwise swapping it out based on whatever I'm fighting like if I need more stance damage or whatever.
Might be my new favorite weapon period, it has everything I want except high poise damage.
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Flame skewer in Milady for fai/str build, retarded or not?
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>>483339537
some of the new spells are fun
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>>483342579
>Marikatard unable to control their emotions
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>>483342454
Go in the hole retard.
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>>483342506
Do they? I'm pretty consistently staggering anything that's not a knight or heavier with my attacks, and the first stab seems to stagger them sometimes too
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>>483342454
Yeah, I think you got a mausoleum, and a dragon/deathbird and that's ir for the area. I guess the Fissure dungeon too. Pretty but sparse, wish it had a cave or something
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Just spent 2 hours roaming around but I found a way to the lower part of the map.

I may be retarded fellas.
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>>483341992
>>483342254
There's evidence pointing to it being Marika and to it not being Marika. Gideons revelation shows Marika doesnt want you or anyone else to be elden lord however grace leaves you and for godfrey in his boss fight so it's clear someome picked favorites and who other than Marika? it's more likely that, much like the rest of marikas life the guidance of grace is a mix of Marika and something else, either radagon, elden beast or the fingers, pointing you towards where to go. I doubt the fingers would want erdtree burned but the grace can also point you towards every ending ranni's included but not the frenzy flame. So unless Marika wants ranni to take her place and suffer like she did I doubt Marika is in full control over grace.
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>>483342525
then it's a shame it's so much superior to elden ring
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>>483334532
Why did they design a boss entirely around that physik tear? Did From want the people, playing as they had been conditioned to by the base game which by design does not have a sekiro parry, to be punished endlessly and have no choice for strategy?
>rolling? you will never get a hit in
>jumping? nah all attacks are vertical or diagonal
>guarding? nah one combo will break even a greatshield
>tanking? nah 2000 damage through 60% absorption while using two different elements
>ranged? nah fullscreen aoe (which combos) and beamspam faster than any animation you have
>brute force? nah don't flinch from anything and really high posture meter
And even if you do what they tell you to, the boss evades and attacks in the same animation so >50% of the time you miss unless you fight unlocked and always attack to wherever you think the boss is going to evade to with its RNG choice of attack-dodge. Or it's an attack-backstep and you literally can't win.

All I'm saying is Rellana does not belong in this game.
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Is it just me or do colossal weapons barely stagger in the dlc. I remember when I played the base game a few hits would be enough to knock enemies and bosses on their ass. Now it's like double the hits or more
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>>483342447
You do for completed builds and that's the point. Anyways, I'm gonna go back to playing. Enjoy being trash.
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>>483342686
tried it against fire knights and not even jumping heavy staggers while a straight sword can stunlock them.
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>>483342454
did you miss the ghostflame dragon?
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>>483342391
I still died
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>>483342378
When he jumps into the air stand still for 3 seconds, then pick either left or right and sprint until he lands. He will miss.
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Should I help Leda gank any bitches if I want maximum rewards, or no?
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>>483342285
>Just let all those runes in dlc go to waste
>Just use them all on smithing stones
You know full well most people are just going to use those dlc runes to level and not purposefully sit at 120 or 150
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>>483342674
You're the one who started spewing forth random insults first nigger

>>483342708
I think Marika's goal is literally "anything but Metyr winning". Rather than wanting herself personally to win I feel as if she just wants the Elden Beast gone. Notably she doesn't point you towards the Three Fingers because that would destroy absolutely everything rather than just killing the Elden Beast with some collateral.
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>>483342708
I thought Radagon was the one who was trying to stop you, that's the whole reason you fight him, followed by the EB. You don't ever fight Marika because she's rooting for you. Radagon is a pawn of the EB.
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>>483341417
extremely, and that spell is objectively better than 99% of holy spells, it fucking shreds
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>>483342762
>you do for completed builds because i'm a stupid pvp nigger blah blah blah
Faggot.
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>>483340106
This is the question I had from the start. It's pretty fucking evident people "die" from GYs, to the erdtree roots true death shit, from the piles of corpses.

So I had two ideas:
>First off; game mechanics are a meme, DD doesn't effect mortals. When you kill shit, it respawns, but that's a game mechanic for replay value, this would make sense when certain named NPCs actually die, etc. In lore, they "die" and turn into ghosts and are now getting lured by helphen or w/e, they can't die of old age so they look like that. Normally they would self-terminate by touching roots (eats body and soul) and being reincarnated/killed but roots are fucked therefore they have "unending life" until we kill them. When we kill them they turn into ghosts and Helphen lamplight/ghost lore items take over, these ghosts can be burned in ghostflame if they don't get to the tree, bodies that don't make it are grabbed by jars. Graves are an alternate burial method over catacombs/erdtree w/e. Certain ghosts just don't go back to the erdtree and decide to linger or can't quite make it back like the lore ghosts. The afterlife is brimming with souls that can't find rest until they get to the erdtree/scadula tree or something fucked happens to them like deathbirds or outergods.
This one is somewhat elaborate. It's also interesting how there are ethereal graves in the DLC.

The second:
>DD affects everyone, EVERYONE and nobody can die until we release DD, and people are functionally immortal and respawn, or instead turn into undying ghosts. After we release it for gameplay mechanics, npcs we "kill" don't actually die somehow. The graves, catacombs and all that shit are on roots and they all get reincarnated somehow cause DD is sealed and they don't die-die. Thus zombies and ghosts, because the erdtree doesn't work anymore and DD is preventing normal death in this setting.
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>>483342181
Seriously bros, why don't the ancient dragons have the leg hitboxes the other ones do. This shit is beyond obnoxious
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>>483342754
what's your skubtree level
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>>483342686
I think they have less "stagger" but more "posture damage" for some reason
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>>483342879
>insults
Marika is a screeching, emotional woman. That's a fact. If she wasn't she would have never broken the elden ring.
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>>483342754
I've been staggering every enemy with my Rotten Staff easily enough. Guard Counters or Charged R2 staggers in 1 or 2 attacks. Sometimes 3 if it's a very bulky enemy,
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i think the dlc is good and i had fun
dumb that the new zones have so many layers and the map only shows you one overhead view though
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>>483342814
>did you miss the 3rd or 4th instance of a dragon fight which itself is just a reskin of the 73 basic dragon fights you get in the base game
I sprinted past it, thinking there would be something new somewhere
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Are there fire knights with greatswords or can any of them drop it?
If so is there a close grace to one?
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>>483342708
>Gideons revelation shows Marika doesnt want you or anyone else to be elden lord
That's just him being a loser cuck who bitched out of challenging the Beast. Only those who dare face Divinity like the Tarnished and Godfrey deserve the role.
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That does bring up a good point. WHY can grace also lead us down ranni's questline but not the frenzy flame? Does marika just want the elden beast dead and doesn't care what we do as long as it's not ff? Or is marika's entire motivation "Tarnished you WILL fuck godpussy either mine or my step daughter's, you don't have a choice"
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>>483342979
The Elden Ring being broken was planned, not a fit of emotion. Essentially the only thing Marika miscalculated was that Godfrey took 5000 years to come back somehow.
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Is there anything in the drained church district besides the 2 tree spirits? I don't feel like exploring the place on foot.
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>before DLC
Radahn is pretty cool
>after DLC
Malenia had it right after all
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>>483342754
it's just you.
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>>483342646
Flame Skewer is good, helps shore up it's inability to stagger certain enemies and comes with that +95 damage buff.
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>>483342891
Alright guess I'll use it for Putrescent K***ht
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Is it possible to get down here without
>*VIOLENT HORSE NEIGH* UUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHA *DONG* """You Died"""
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>>483343063
man all the good new magic is everything but death
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>>483343063
anon there's a staricase up to that guy in the room you're about to go into
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>>483343081
>why doesn't marika want to destroy the world
gee golly wilikers i wonder
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>>483341867
>>483341642
I went to Gaius at 120 and got literally no signs, I feel like if you aren't at least 125 or 130 so 150s can summon you, you're shit out of luck
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>>483343081
All of those endings keep and order intact along with the erdtree. Ranni's is just far away in space.
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>>483342709
just because its less popular doesnt mean its superior
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>>483341473
>PURE CHRISTIAN GOLDMASK
Goldmask denounces all Gods. He's r/atheism in a nutshell.
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>>483343081
It's the Elden Beast being dead, Marika probably doesn't mind dying herself that much. Everyone she's ever loved is dead or in a state worse than death, and you killed her hubby outside the door. Hewg was told to forge a god-slaying weapon, clearly the god wasn't Marika herself but the Elden Beast inside her.
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>>483343213
is just an example
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>>483343169
There's another entrance, look around across the hole.
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>>483343235
i started the DLC at 120 and was summoned very quickly. i'm at 150 now and there's no difference.
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>marika wants to be resurrected and fuck the tarnished herself
>marika wants ranni to become a god and fuck the tarnished
I think marika is just the greatest wingman in the setting behind malenia. She just wants us to get laid. Is she really that bad? She just wants you to get your dick wet.
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>playing original heterosexual build
>bosses take forever to kill even with maximum level weapons, and can quickly dispatch you if you do a single mistake
>collect skibidi and become able to progress
>filtered by Radahn
I'm hating this DLC. You will suffer if you try to play it without a broken overpowered build unless you have extremely good coordination.
At least in the base game you could go around with shitty garbage meme builds and things would work out.
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>>483343169
yeah
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>>483343081
Marika just wants the system to change, it doesn't truly matter if it's her or Ranni who helms the change, but shit needs to change. That doesn't mean she wants everything to be destroyed though.
And as a sidenote she likes the cur of Tarnished's jib so much she tells you to gank that bitch Miquella and his faggot husband so they don't try to steal the throne from (You)
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>>483343243
You're right, it's superior because it has better boss fights, a more interesting combat system and more unique mechanics.

and an actual story.
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>>483343256
He even tips his fedora
I just want to say though that anyone pretending Goldmask is high Int should remember he didn't use Law of Regression himself, he had to wait for the gigachad Tarnished of No Renown to do it, meaning you're smarter than he is.
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>Marika this
>Marika that
It's all very interesting but
I will never forgive From for not clarifying and expanding on what role Melina is supposed to fulfill. Who is she, how is she related to Marika, why did she choose you of all Tarnished.
Questions that will never be answered.
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>>483343243
but everything I like is based on how unpopular something is to feel superior over people who base everything they like on how popular something is.
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how do i get to the sunflower boss, i've been almost everywhere and i have all the maps
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>>483342879
He made an observation about a character in a video game.
You took personal offense to that and started attacking and making projections at him as a person.
You're mad lol
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>enter shadow keep
>game turns into a slideshow
Wtf?
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>doesn't have boss element resistances
>doesn't have upgraded scaling for a lot of weapons
This is literally your only purpose Fextra, hurry up. Can anyone tell me what Messmer is weakest too? Obviously not fire, but holy seems to not be too great either.
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>>483343243
And similarly, just because it's more popular doesn't mean it's superior, either
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>ancient ruin of rauh
>rode past 90% of it
>arrive at church of bud grace, there’s a boss fight

What the FUCK is this zone, I don’t even have the map fragment yet
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>>483343403
lies of p is a great game but the story is just as sparse as any dark souls game, don't kid yourself
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>>483343379
the DLC is pretty shit with making more than a few weapons viable if you don't want to suffer horribly.
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>>483343560
It's really not though? It's pretty clearly laid out.
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>>483343476
>he
Yeah you're totally not him
Marika doesn't make a single sound in the entire game and her main emotional moment is actually planting the minor erdtree in her village
If anything she seems like a cold unfeeling bitch rather than being a "screeching woman"
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>>483340613
I've been playing DS since DS3 and I played every entry to completion except Sekiro.
I did not know this
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>>483342708
The Divine Eye and the Occult Eye are the mediums to give or extract grace. It is clear now that you have to be in proximity to give or take away grace.
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>>483343651
>>483343651
>>483343651
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>>483343523
magic and frost damage seemed to work for me. and rot.

>>483343556
you need to get the map in another area entirely
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>>483343523
IDK if it's his weakness but I demolished him with lightning spells
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>>483343440
Even better he had to wait for a low INT thicko like me to equip two specific talismans, a stupid looking helm, activate a great rune, and then cast it
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>>483343523
>look up something completely innocuous on Fagxtra during the DLC
>get completely spoiled on several bosses because some fag was talking about them on their garbage chat they embed in every single page of their wiki
That site can fuck off and die
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>>483343349
I mean she's also rooting for Godfrey so she just really wants a tarnished's dick
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>>483343612
i said "sparse." lies of p's story is like two paragraphs long, same length as dark souls games.
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>>483343135
they are both shit because they both ended up serving Miquella
I stand with my boy Morgott
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>>483335289
>have to do janky platforming while being pelted by 1000 fireballs and the instakill basket attack
>then you have jankily throw pots at it while also getting melee'd
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>teleport to church district grace
>hear a sound on spawning in
>Get runes and an Iris item

I am so glad I could skip on Ulcerated Tree Spirit fight
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>>483343476
fufck off nigger
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>>483343349
>marika just wants the tarnished to marry and reproduce
>be it with her or ranni
>game makes it clear the elden ring cam help reproduction so ranni can have your kids
>dlc is killing a literal tranny alongside a femboy and his gay lover
>body type used for promotinal(canon) tarnished is male
>melina only turns on you if you choose frenzy flame the ending that makes reproduction impossible
>the entire games message is "MARRY AND REPRODUCE"
Bros...is elden ring...based?
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jeenine is having fun with the DLC :D
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So for a Carian Supremacy build do I just go minimum str/dex for a cold greatsword and go 60 int?
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>>483343757
Not really, elden ring lore is just a bunch of buzzwords for autists like vaati to piece together fan theories from and make it seem deeper than it is
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>>483343768
>AIEEE MORGOTT SAMA I WAS WRONG NOOOO DON'T TAKE MY MEDALS AWAY DON'T STRIP MY ARMOR OF THE COOL GODFREY DECALS AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>483340385
Yeah. It matches really well and is very cost-effective in terms of weight/protection
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>>483342204
I'd play a slower game. I'm tired of clunky as fuck games trying to be fast. I got into other ARPGs and also character action games between ER and the DLC. Coming back to this felt even more shit than I would have thought.
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>>483343523
>puts in placeholder text with things like "Weak to ??" or "x Strategy" with nothing beneath that makes the page come up on google even though there's nothing there
If someone were to murder the owner of fextralife it would be 100% morally correct, these are such scummy things to do that you have to not have something in you as a person to even think about doing it
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>>483342948
Finally beat that fucker. FUCK dragons. TOTAL DRAGON DEATH
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>>483343314
Thanks!
>>483343393
haha FAIL
look at this 7 layer of irony shitposter thinking everyone is as miserable as him!
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>>483342747
I don't get the Rellana hate. I just jump attack spammed her with my UGS. I mean yeah my mimic tear and NPC summon helped but like, come on. It's easy!
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>>483340687
He saw everybody as a tool, at first he tought she was the best he could get but he couldnt cure ehr turbocancer so he went with Radahn.

Then Malenia marched on Radahn out of pure spite.
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>>483342708
>Gideons revelation shows Marika doesnt want you or anyone else to be elden lord
no, it's his conclusion because he doesn't believe killind god is possible. Marika planned for Tarnished to return
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>>483344647
I did the same thing without summons though. It fucks her pretty easily as long as you have bloodhound step
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>YOU CANT CHANGE GEAR WHILE GESTURING BECAUSE.... YOU JUST CANT, OKAY!!
What year was this game made in?
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>>483341639
Okay.
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>>483336050
I hate that it's a glorified viewing tower.
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>>483345348
Stop checking your map while on a ladder
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>>483345505
???
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>>483343154
does it give a messmer flame buff like the FK Captain ash? Flame Spear or whatever?
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>>483338430
>40k is not grimdark despite the marketing
It literally coined the term, and even in that there's pockets of light which are made to shine brighter because of the darkness. Things that go further and that are completely miserable with no light are grimderp rather than grimdark.
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>>483341098
It's a plothole. Both are said to be true when only one can be. The DLC story is just fanfiction and should be rightfully ignored.
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>>483341353
Pretty much. Do remember though that this is a retcon to the original story told by some yellow niggers. The whole "The Greater Will is Christian God" is so fucking lame. They had to steal a line from Carl Sagan because japs can't write.
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>>483346392
The setting as a whole is grimdark but none of the stories within it are grimdark, they're all nobledark at worst
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romina is the og rot god if you read her remembrance.

it says she weaved rot from a twisted divine element.



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