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>>483583173
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I just beat mogh, should i go into the dlc with my bloodhound? any other prep i should do? any wep i should have in mind to grab later? halp.
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>would dogwalk any elden ring character in your path
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Invading still sucks ass btw.
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>>483595546
literally who?
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>>483583315
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are smithstone daggers easymode even on 0 skibidi
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cllbjZqPagU
>instead of taking place in the Shadow Realm the DLC takes place in the depths of Farum Azula
>Meet with future self that became Elden Lord, and is on the precipice of their world getting destroyed by the Outer Gods with only them left after failing to reconvene with the Greater Will
>Past self wordlessly imparts Unalloyed Gold Battle Arts, the pinnacle of Outer God annihilation along with an unassuming Gold Sword.
>Then be caught in a tornado in Farum Azula that brings the Tarnished back in time, bringing them to the Haligtree with Miquella in the process of ascending to godhood.
>Intercept Mohg just before he attempts to abscond Miquella from the Haligtree, who turns into an ordinary man after standing in the presence of the Unalloyed Gold Aura of the Tarnished
>Miquella spiritually conveys to the Tarnished that they can walk the path of the saint unchallenged, reassuring that no one in the mortal plane can harm him now that the Tarnished here and to spare Mohg
>Mohg surrenders and screams in mad joy at no longer being an omen, pledging his allegiance
>Journey with Mohg and the restored Malenia as retainers, while the Haligtree becomes the new Roundtable Hold, buffing Unalloyed Gold Battles Arts at Miquella's cocoon.
>Prevent pivotal events that led to the Shattering from ever occurring, including the Night of Black Knives.
>Bring all demi-gods together to challenge the Outer God of Rot, Outer God of Frenzy, Outer God the Formless Mother and the Outer God of the Moon
>Final Boss is the Ire of the Greater Will which the still cute and funny newly formed God Miquella challenges besides the Tarnished
>Restore connection to the Greater Will, and everyone becomes eternally youthful like Miquella frolicking in an everlasting joyous paradise
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>>483595698
they kinda suck?
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>No option to refight bosses
>No option to change armor colour
:)
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what's /erg/'s stance on these?
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How do I play this game other than dodge - dodge - dodge - dodge - heavy jump attack

I hear its got an amazing combat system
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>>483595575
The one on the left is a husband.
He'd make you the wife.
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>I LIKITH TO WATCH I LIKITH TO SEE
>THOUST FUCK MY BROTHER
>IN FRONT OF ME
What a shitty ending, if we get a 2nd DLC I hope whoever wrote the mess of the 1st gets fired
I hope the skibidi chalace was just cut content for something else and not where it starts, fuck
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>>483595725
didn't read because you linked a cringe yt video
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FUCK GAYLDON HIPPOPOTOMUS
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>>483595753
Still no boob sliders
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>>483592969
It’s not George, it’s Miyazaki selectively choosing which parts to tell. How can you be this stupid, not getting this?

For all you know, the amount of stupid as fuck and obnoxious Carian wankery was never his priority. For all we know he had never intended for Rennala and her sister to be above the likes of Ymir or Gideon.

It is very likely that Mike Zaki had chosen who got to be supreme over who.

It was likely Mike Zaki who said “Yep, the moon ball is bigger sorcery than a beam of pure fucking nebula” and that was that.

>>483593507
This. Christ. Miyazaki has said before he only sat down with the man once.

>>483593683
It’s exactly that.

>>483593991
I disagree to an extent. Wonder, mystery, ignorance itself, are prime cores of both George’s and Miyazaki’s approaches to storytelling. It’s just, storytelling has been said to come second, even third, to Zaki.

>>483594209
He will finish Winds but die before Spring, and I am fine with that. His world runs on mystery, so him leaving the story an open ended mess is perfectly okay by me.
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>exploring cerulean coast
>great glovewort
>great glovewort
>great glovewort
>great glovewort
good job Miyazaki
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I'm on my first playthrough and kind of spent an hour on the fully grown fallingstar beast with bloodhound fang
Am I going to get utterly ass blasted by the rest of the game and dlc? Am I disabled?
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>want to fashionsouls a cool mage
>there is only one good robe
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Someone give me a fun Str build. I can also accept Str/Fai
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>>483595850
They finally added boobplate armor though
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>>483595796
Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot. Hot.
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>>483595725
>everyone becomes eternally youthful like Miquella frolicking in an everlasting joyous paradise
Fool.
Had you not heard?
Eternity ain't eternal.
The whole point of this game is that it is impossible for the human soul to preserve perpetuity even in the perfection of paradise. We always fuck it up. Just like you fucked up and let the whole point fly soundlessly over your head.
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>>483595845
He's pretty easy
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>>483595886
They really need to rework something about this, useless loot was a problem in base game too
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>>483595623
sliders?
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>>483595981
dual colossal jump attack spam
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>>483595623
Ugly faggot
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>that line of bloodstains from Alt+F4s at Messmer
kek
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>>483595872
Your just copying your post so so will I

If you werent retarded and read the thread you would see further down the post chain I totally understand that you dumb fuck
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>>483595937
No, an hour on fallingstar beast isn't bad, he can be pretty tough.
Yes however, the rest of the game will fuck you up.
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>Miquella is evil!
>Can't name 5 things she did wrong
lol
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What new game is Miyazaki working on?
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>>483595161

Anyone?
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>Fine, I'll stop the femboy myself.
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>>483596172
>>she
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>>483596185
I dont know
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>>483595981
They're all the same, if you don't like bonking things with a big stick then it just isn't for you
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https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV74kMnv
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Made a new poll if people are interested.
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>>483595793
put on a shield
jump over stuff
parry stuff
guard counter stuff
hyperarmor trade stuff
fix your one-track mind incapable of creative expression
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Am I an asshole if I invade people and cast Light of Miquella at them?
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How much STR/FAI for a STR build with some FAI? 54/30? Is there a point in FAI above 25 if you're not gonna go all in 60+? Clawmark seal seems too shit to be worth casting over just using Ashes of war, and most STR/FAI weapons just scale off STR right? God I hate how confusing scaling is
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>>483596071
It was, flask charges should be tied to crafting
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>>483596042
Skibidi fragment level upon beating him?
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>>483596093
>>483596119
The duality of /erg/
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>>483595845
beat him first try
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>>483596129
They could also have been immediately blasted by Messmer's opening attack due to them being viglets or not having a high enough skibidi blessing
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>>483595743
that's well and all but
>flame art affinity
>fire scorpion
>fingers heirloom
>spear and jump talismans
>jumping attack spam
uh oh I am having FUN
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>>483596185
He said there are a lot of projects From Software are working on. He specifically only mentioned being a director of one """smaller""" game and is going hands off with the other projects. beyond that there aren't any leaks or announcements or anything that I am aware of.
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>>483595780
I put swift slash on them bur I just dont get the hype
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>try to summon Thiollier for Radahn
>he bugs out and stays outside of the fog gate
okay guess you were useless all along
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>>483595780
depends if I can buff them with vykes or not, like farum beastmen
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shitty fucking dlc ending fucking shit bad game
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>>483596290
>Am I an asshole if I invade people
yes
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So why did this little bastard do what he did? Was it really all to save his sister and get radahn cock? Couldn't he have simply had radahn and malenia march together, fuck of morgott, then the fire giant, then maliketh, then radagon then elden beast? I'm certain malenia and radahn together along with finlay, freyja, and even leda could've all done it. Hell, why couldn't miquella just charm mohg into helping him fight too? It seems like godhood would've been simpler if he had just combined everyone together with deals or bewitching instead of his stupid murder suicide pact.
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So this is the "strength" of your average hostcel these days...
Embarrassing. Can even one of them still put up a fight?
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DROP THE FUCKING DIVINE BEAST LEGS YOU GOLDEN CHICKEN FUCK, IT'S BEEN AN HOUR OR TWO FUCKER
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>>483595546
This nigger jobs to some humans shouting WORDS at it LOL
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Anybody know what's up with this sigil thing on the side of the Shadow Keep? It's up where all the flying flamethrower skeletons are, next to the forager brood guy stuck in the water.
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>>483595353
Does the Dlc imply the greater will is dead or gone ?
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>>483596393
>Hands off projects
I'd assume that'd mean a bunch of Dark Souls 2-tier games but after the DLC it seems like it doesn't matter whether he's on the team or not anymore
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Why did everyone hate the erdtree if they had elden ring before that anyway?
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>>483596105
>>483596270
Sure, got any fun DLC weapons to use for it?
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>>483595981
Guts sword+incantations
>>483596172
Gaslighting Malenia and Mohg
Raping Radahn after brainwashing him
>>483596274
Oh right I haven't even fought the pubescent knight or skibidi avatar
Do I have to do a NPC questline to fight him?
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>>483595872
I was going to respond but >>483595827 said it better
FUCK Miyazaki and his bias shitting up a world like this; although I guess he gets a free pass for presenting it.
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>>483596432
why do you hate him he did nothing wrong
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waifu knight maxx or slut maxx?
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>>483595886
This isnt an ER specific problem but an Open World problem they all have. They are great at facilitating exploration through a beautiful handcrafted world, but absolutely shit at rewarding the exploration. Theres nothing fun about finding a starlight shard after finding an obscure altar on the map.
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>>483595780
They look interesting, I really want to try th-
>backhand blade
Complete AIDS, I never wanted anything to do with these things, fuck 'em and fuck everyone who uses them.
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>>483596548
it may have never really been around in the first place
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>>483596516
It's just a decoration and nothing else
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>>483596558
everyone who wasn't perfect were slaves/executed/exiles anon.
the tarnished were literally told to fuck off and not return (before the game)
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>>483596472
i want to let his cock free
it doesn't matter, he's the fallen hero troupe and there's no ending
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>>483595546
>killing your main antagonist halfway through the game
>you just refight him at the end
Skyrim was a mess.
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>>483596472
He wasn't thinking clearly, he read a hypno rapist manga ranni had laying around and based his entire life on that. Like how his mother was for godfrey he was too horny for radahn to think clearly.
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Bloodfiend arm has to be the most fitting weapon for a bleed build. Actually sick as fuck
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sorc bros: gravitational missile is actually pretty nifty, if you cast it unloced into the ground it explodes instantly. SLEEPER spell. keep it a secret. casts fasts and knocks down. good for pvp
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>>483596503
Those make you look like a gay stripper
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>>483596516
There's more of them in Gaius's arena, it's just ornamentation
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>>483596638
>deathbed smalls
bricked account inbound
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FromSoft is kind of a joke
>thinking anyone is going to ever pronounce Scadu as anything but Skadoo
>calling their balance patch a "calibration"
lol
lmao
Can you imagine they probably wanted to call it Scadu of the Erdtree but someone in marketing was like "nonono that's fucking retarded"
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how many larval tears does the dlc have?
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>>483596747
but first they won the war for the erdtree. So they actually believed in it. I wonder what was the problem of everyone else with it.
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>>483596791
i've almost wont 1v3s in close quarters with it. i havent tested it too much though.
probably wont be doing more invading because its aids
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>>483596009
yeah it's like the only item that actually completely changes and it even gains a passive effect, boosting finger spells (by a whole 8%)
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>>483596552
I can at the very least say it won't be as ugly as Dark Souls 2. From Software as a whole is very talented artistically with rare exceptions that more come down to design decisions than lack of skill. There is an interview with him was still chasing perfection when it comes to dark fantasy projects.
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>>483596906
Many I think
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>>483596857
got that shit since release, i remember some anon on here dropping em for the fellow gooners
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>>483595546
Shartduin was a bum who got fucked by some ghosts shouting at him in Portuguese
>BOBRA PAO
>SOPA MACAO
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so did miqeulle use his powers to brainwash everyone into loving him?
mohg, malenia, leda, radahn, and everyone else are just under his control?
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>FUCK Miyazaki and his bias shitting up a world like this; although I guess he gets a free pass for presenting it.

No he doesn’t. George should sue the Jap for turning Radahn into a pedo fag.
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>Messmer Soldier's Axe has the same moveset as the Warped Axe
So besides looking better, how does it stack up in comparison?
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>>483596784
>Severed arm of an ogre-looking motherfucker is one of the strongest weapons in the game now
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>>483595546
>Todd says he has no plans to change the engine
>not a single "battle" in future Elder Scrolls games will support more than 8 dudes fighting at once because of this
Bethesda is sad
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>>483596780
>ranni turned miquella into a rapist and malenia into a double fujo with her land of reeds books
Everything is her fault.
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Light greatswords and Milady especially are absolutely fantastic for reasons people don't talk about.

Playing on nude mods most of the time you only get to look at your characters ass but light greatswords moveset includes many sideviews and full spins giving you a lot of opportunities to also look at characters front.
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>>483596780
>Malenia and Ranni are hyper fujos
The truth is, lil Miq...the game was rigged from the start...
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>Torrent was Miquella the whole time
Well, that was nonsensical
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>>483595937
fallingstar beast is quite hard before you know the moveset
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>>483597087
Sure but I can fix her
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What're the strongest DLC weapons?
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>>483595725
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>>483596653
I dunno, I feel like Miyazaki should know that the playerbase doesn't want to use summon, or is it different there in Japan?
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find a single flaw.
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>load into coop
>host has single digit skibidi tree level
>I get two shot and now I"M the one who looks like a scrub
grr
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>>483597239
no cutscene
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>>483596571
a lot of the dlc weapons are dual stat so not really good for it unless you're really high level. i suggest either golem halberds or executioner's axes
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>>483596881
Nobody was able to pronounce siofra or gaol properly when the game first released
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>>483597210
messmers WA does a shit ton of damage
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>>483597239
I'm forced to use both swords when I only want the magic one.
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Why is mutilayered ring of light the only frisbee spell that doesn't require int
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>>483597239
Zero dialogue and lore
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>>483597239
no voice lines
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>>483596968
He is so wholesome bros, some real Addams Family vibes coming from him
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>>483597187
Miquella turned into Torrent...what a man does for Radahn's approval...
At the very least Radahn will be able to ride him anytime now.
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>>483596881
Shadowseed is better
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>>483597343
Because it's an off-shoot of an actual Golden Order incantation.
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>>483597079
Only thing better would be swinging around an entire corpse like those guys in bloodborne
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>>483597082
name one game that isnt a grand starategy that did a huge first person battle.
Im more suprised more sutdios didnt make games as big and dense as skyrim.
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>>483597372
god the DLC dropped so many good NPCs
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>>483597087
>>483597181
Can you fucking imagine it, while you're on the moon with ranni she summons a shit load of depraved doujins she's been collecting for thousands of years and makes you read and reenact them with her?
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ENOUGH, WITH THE DELAY ATTACKS
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>>483597239
Lore. Shit.
Mechanics. Shit.
Made to satisfy Miyazaki. Shit.
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>Ainsbach never betrays you, stays incredibly likeable, wants you to help normal people as a lord
>he served Mohg as a one of this sanguine knights
Just how much did Miquella change Mohg??
Holy FUCK
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>>483597239
this is my oc rellana shes the sister of rennala but she left reya lucarea becuz she fell in luv with messmer hes so strong an sexy
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>>483597239
>no dialogue
>no cutscene
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Are you guys using the new flask? I can't get my brain attuned to it.
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>im not racist, i have an albinauric friend
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how the fuck do you dodge midras explosion in the beginning of phase 2? i dont get it
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>>483597343
It straight up says it's not a Golden Order Fundie spell in the description dude. It is a Mickey worship spell.
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>>483595353
So was Ymir a female ? did he get wrong eng dubbing or what lol
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>>483597553
in 25 minutes I'm going to smash your head into a pencil
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That's right. I said SHE, she is my beautiful wife with a penis.
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>>483597238
Not sure, I think its tied to the arms race From has been having with its playerbase. They have to keep upping the ante because he knows the players will eventually master this upgraded version of souls combat and want more. This has led to them eventually just having to resort to encouraging summoning as often as possible to distract enemy aggro.
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>>483597624
Run away and jump. There's a slight delay from when he hits the ground and the explosion though
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Midra's easy as fuck man what the fuck?
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>>483596215
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>>483597624
i dont know
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>>483597343
It was created by fans of Miquella, not him. Ironically, it's also the strongest one.
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>playing the DLC after the patch
You didn't beat it
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>>483596215
link?
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>>483597372
I liked his questline a lot even if it was mostly just walking back and forth from rather empty areas
the aesthetic and vibe of it really carried it for me, and I'm just REALLY hooked on those spells, the colors, the animation, the sfx as they home in. I dunno I just really vibe with this guy and his bullshit. Jolan is cool too
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>>483597239
No cutscene and lines
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>>483595998
And it has an ugly ass cape that you can't remove.
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>>483597673
he's a tranny
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Haven't finished the DLC yet, but I'm already itching for a new playthrough.
First time is on NG+3, as a jack of all trades (because I got tired of respeccing to change things up). But it doesn't feel quite the same as fully committing to a build.
Also, I figured, there's no single mechanical spec like "bleed", or "sorcery", or "str", etc. that's distinct enough to be enjoyable. Even among sorceries there's a bunch of quite different ones, like glintstone, carian, death, and so on. You simply HAVE to roleplay. This is great.
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>>483597775
Hey some of us have a life outside the game and dont have time to do all that shit already.
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is damage actually percentage based in the dlc?
am I gonna get 3 shotted whether I have 20 vig or 60 vig?
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>>483595353
kek
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>>483597610
It's fun when you're not fighting something that will spin your character away from it's attacks because of the horrendous lock-on camera.
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So we've fully accepted it as canon that fat asses and wide hips run in the family right? Do you think melina is also carrying a large ass under her clothes? What about godwyn? Is that how he made the dragons fall for him and end the war? Did he just give them a brief glimpse of his golden posterior? Do you think no one took godrick seriously because he was flat?
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>>483597775
what did the patch even change
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>>483597239
No cutscene
Needed more build up.
Lack of reactions to her death from main game NPCs.
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>>483597743
Bosses are either too hard or too easy n’ I am quite frustrated about it. Midra was supposed to be one of the hardest too. I really think they just stopped giving a fuck like they always do near the end of their games.

The saying “FromSoft never finishes their games” is very true.
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>mom said it's my turn to attack now
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>>483597608
>>483597572
>>483597352
>>483597360
>>483597284
The boss fight IS the story, you retards. The fight is art itself. It's The Creation of Adam, drawn by Miyazaki himself. But of course storyfags are too low IQ to understand that.
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good fight but I don't like the undodgeable fire blast when phase 2 starts, relatively easy desu
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I wish the abyss thing got more play than "omen twins", I like fighting in the dark with all these particles
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>>483597181
I love fallen heroes. Miyazaki is such a good storywriter.
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>>483595796
>He'd make you the wife.
He won't.
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>>483597490
titanfall 2
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>>483597934
Please shut up before Godrick grafts multiple ass cheeks onto himself.
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>>483597624
Run to the edge of the arena.
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>>483597934
It's just a Lands Between thing, even the Ash of War guy is stacked
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>>483597937
from 2.00 to 2.05 scaling at max skibidi rank
added more of a skibidi falloff so you get more benefit at more skibidies
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>>483597996
Its the mountain tops of the Giants but a whole DLC, where they just went "Ehhh just make everything kill you in 2 hits hehehehe"
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>>483596780
The reason Marika is a true god while Miquella fails instantly is Marika rose above that. She cast aside the intrusive horny thoughts while Miquella's cocklust ruled his every decision.
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>>483597616
>an albinauric who decided to study and lift instead of wallowing in despair, got strong as FUCK, has a GF, learned the same gravity magic as Radahn and managed to befriend an angsty shoujo male lead
>also managed to find the single biggest boar in lands between and made him his mount
Mad respect
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>>483598037
oh fuck off, we should have gotten more than three boss cutscenes in the DLC. Rellana would have had a hype entrance one.
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>>483598050
>undodgeable
you're supposed to run away
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stormveil castle is still the peak of elden ring
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>>483598037
badass female knight with twin swords doesn't talk shit after killing you?
bust. might as well be fighting an animate statue.
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>>483597848
Can't believe Miyazaki released a DLC during pride month where we go around killing trannies and homos.
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>>483598078
kek
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>>483597239
Too easy
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>>483596881
>skadoo
wtf is it supposed to be then, "skay-duh"? "ska-da"? i read it fast out loud and sounds basically as "scary tree"
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How do you get to this side of the map?
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>>483598091
ah so nothing, I expected weapon nerfs/buffs. Ah well I beat the dlc already with photo proof so I am pure.
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How do I get this this area? It seems I can't get there neither from the south nor from the north.
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>>483598031
Just beat this guy. I don't see what's the fuss was all about. Took me like 3 or 4 tries. A pretty straightforward boss.
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>>483597934
No. Melina is petite.
>What about Godwyn
Golden Slam is an ash of war. Just use your brain.
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>>483598283
It's SHADOW in Old English or something
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Hyetta has tamed your Melina who henceforth belongs to the Three Fingers
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are the dryleaf arts terrible for fighting bosses or am I just dogshit?
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>>483598031
Thought he only had one super long combo.
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>>483598273
how is this guy even real?
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>>483598037
>bring dark moon greatsword to the fight
>she doesn't say a word
nah. this shit is retarded. a lot of wasted potential.. if they were going to wank Carians then they should have done a better job
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>>483596653
i really hope someone updates/fixes that Diablo loot style mod, that plus a randomizer would go a long way in addressing this. you'll still get some junk drops here and there but adding unique loot to the item pool would help.
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>>483597239
Dealing 3x damage than she should have
Reusing Ibis in the game where you can't move laterally at mach speeds
Fromsoft thinking anyone ever gives a shit about carians just because Ranny is popular
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>>483596881
>You can't have shit be weird names because people might pronounce it wrong
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>>483597831
>and I'm just REALLY hooked on those spells, the colors, the animation, the sfx as they home in
Too bad they SUCK and they decided to give the new big spell to fucking Rellana instead of him or Metyr. Magic in game is female and women are just fucking better than the men at it. You may as well go to the assumption that Raya Lucaria never produced a male that surpassed 60 int.

Anon in >>483595872 is probably correct that Miyazaki just did a big biased nut all over the game’s face lol.
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should I choose yes? I can't progress for getting her summon anyway
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Worst build from each game? a build that is quite weak in comparison to the rest that people only use it to make the game harder?

DeSo
DS
DS2
DS3
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>no ending
can someone post fromsoft feet to cheer me up
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>>483598287
You need to emote some statue

Just Google it like it was supposed to be figured out
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>>483598287
there is a statue near the entrance of the Gaius fight, use the O Mother gesture on it.
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How do I get to the map for Jagged Peaks? Ive beaten Bayle yet cant find the fucking path to it.
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>>483598287
Try gesture.
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>>483598448
Yes
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>>483597934
If you look at the tarnished while their asses aren't as fat or hips as wide proportionally their thighs, male or female, are the thickest in the setting. This is the actual reason marika favors you so much, and even if you do rannis quest she'll point you towards it. The thighs are the missing ingredient and you have them. Marika needs large thighs in her genepool too.

There I solved elden ring lore
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>>483597239
the only flaw is that I'm not currently CLANGING her
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>>483598387
Not that I disagree the build up as lacking but, when has a boss ever reacted to you having a different weapon?
Or do you mean reacting to you finishing the Ranni quest. She has no cutscene but, honestly that would be nice. Like Sif
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>>483598287
pray to the statue with the oh mother (think its called) emote in the church where the pig rider fight happens
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for a STR/FAI build, is FAI worth it at all over 25 if you're going 54 STR? FAI is only really good at 60+ with flame infusion right? Are there any weapons that benefit just as much from FAI as they do STR (like a lot of ARC weapons that benefit from ARC just as much due to split dmg)?
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>>483598037
Cute bait.
Adorable even.
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>>483595161
Darkmoon Greatsword has the best INT scaling in the game. pair it with cold magic and you're good to go. you only need 16 STR to wield it so you can still focus INT.

>>483596291
STR/FTH for melee and buffs, DEX/FTH for melee and casting.
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>>483597586
You know those super simps that make shrines to their Oshis and crushes?
That's what Mohg did
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>>483597372
Reminder he tried breastfeeding that thing and it killed it.
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Flame Knights are genuinely the most cancerous fucking enemies FROM has ever created and they're a prime example of where they completely lost the plot of what makes these games fun. Infinite poise, infinite stamina, literally zero recovery frames between attacks, basically the only way to deal with them is to tank their fireballs and splat them with something like Blapshemous Blade so you can actually get attacks in. Fucking cancer. I hope this is the last game of this style that they'll ever make. It will only get worse from here. Sekiro 2 is a much better use of their resources.
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>>483598507
South west

It's really dumb I know
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>>483598436
you shouldn't have prominent stuff in your video game have weird names, just to be hipster, that can be pronounced in very silly ways based on the spelling when you are trying to have a very serious game.
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Reminder Fromsoft didn't add many cutscenes for the bosses in the DLC because they got upset over the "Zanzibart forgive me" meme.
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>>483598287
From the grace just before the Hog Rider, there's a Marika statue there.
>>483598331
From the dragon wing.
>>483598507
Cerulean Coast map iirc
>>483598469
No, fuck you. Thanks for the $40.
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>>483598343
Yeah she's definitely hiding a bakery back there. I can sense it, my inner wigger can tell when a woman is hiding a fat ass
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>>483596586
Radahn consented.
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>>483598343
she is using binding magic to hide her enormous fat cheeks.
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>>483598351
based, it'll forever be scat tree to most though
perhaps it's like true poetry, if you're the type to get it it's pretty cool, and if you don't it's like a bad joke at your expense, just like the rest of the dlc
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>>483598371
Jealous of his gamer skills?
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>>483598712
Why because it bothers you on a personal level? Grow up.
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>>483598649
Im fairly dumb, can you give me an example stat layout for level 190 that I should do?
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>>483598681
>Infinite poise
My Greatsword says otherwise.
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>>483598681
>Infinite poise
What kind of toothpick for a weapon are you using? They kneel to colossal chads, and I think even 2h gs might be enough to stunlock them. At the very least jumping gs.
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No male has ever gotten higher intellect than sixty looool

Women rule men droooool

The player tarnished doesn’t count :^)

>>483598717
Kek, no fag

At least three of the main bosses have “forgive me” in their cutscenes
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i don't think the game's scaling can really handle split damage weapons once you get enough skibidis, lightning infused backhand blades are dealing 40% more damage than keen ones lol
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>Still no ultrawide support
>Have to play with black bars if I want to play online

Fucking shit FUCK
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>>483597239
Just the name. It's silly. Other than that she's basically the perfect humanoid boss. If BAYLE didn't exist she would be the best boss.
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>>483598273
From beating Sekiro's final secret boss in 8 tries, to completely skull fucking the DLC. DSP is literally better than you at souls games.
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>thought that nothing will top Shadow Keep as far as level design goes
>SUDDENLY Rauh turns out to be a region sized legacy dungeon with absolutely incredible labyrinthine design, a fuck load of detours, secrets and strong enemies
>it's also by far the most gorgeous area Fromsoft has ever created
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>>483598720
>dragon wing.
from the what
there's a path from jagged peaks to coast?
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>>483598332
I also just beat him. Square Off pokes with Alexander's Shard hit like crazy and guaranteed riposte after landing 3-4.
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>>483598615
the DLC already requires you to wear the divine beast head for that granny questline, they should have added more interactions.
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>trying Shadow on PS4 version
>get to the Lion Dancer
>mfw the framerate turns into a slideshow
This DLC is going to kick my ass, isn't it?
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>>483598802
You're the one getting all bothered because I think SKADOO trees and SKADOO blessings are silly. You need to be an adult to use 4chan.
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>>483596571
besdies the bloodfiend arm which is the most broken weapon in the game
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>>483598789
>run cheese build
>clear content easy
skill?
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>>483598720
>From the dragon wing.
And how do I get there? The passage behind the Dragon's Pit?
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>Bayle the Dread
>Balerion the Dread
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!

>>483598887
>>483598332
For me I used Bloodhound Step and it was smooth sailing.
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>>483598912
The last boss might cause your console to give up the ghost
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https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV74kMnv
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV74kMnv
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make sure to vote!
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>>483598886
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My wife ranni giving me a reach around while holding my head to her chest
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I want to fuck Marika so bad it's unreal. The things I'd do to fuck her. If I have to kill every demigod alive and burn the Erdtree to fuck Marika I'll do it.
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>>483596503
>>483596802
THANK YOU, GOD FOR ENDING THIS TORTURE.
Don't care, 300 time.
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>>483598486
>>483598505
>>483598523
>>483598626
>>483598720
Thank you.
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>>483598985
>Igon
>Aegon
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Falx or Swift Slash?
Don't care which one's better, I'm mostly wondering which one's more fun.
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What weapons are best for bleed build now? Someone mentioned finding something that got 200+ bleed on it.
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>>483598447
>Magic in game is female and women are just fucking better than the men at it.
this is elden ring, not astlibra
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>>483598985
>>483598887
Yeah, I figured a shield or some kind of enhanced dodge shits on the boar rider, since you have a safety net against his charge and wombo combo.
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>finally reached messmer
jesus christ. talk about over the top.
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I really dont understand this new magic=female meme or how it even affects the game
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>>483598861
he used to play fighting games competitively
the biggest dsp "woaaaaowww" moments are usually from him being a fucking moron not from him lacking mechanical skill
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>>483598050
>undodgeable
Run away, he literally telegraphs that he's going to slap your shit.
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>>483599085
The chicken wing
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>>483598887
like all of them, once you figure out their patterns they are no longer much challenge
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11 hours over 3 days to beat Radahn. No summons. No ashes. No cheese. No weapon arts. Just my backhand blade and 14 heals. That was by far the hardest boss I've ever fought. That fuck is going to get nerfed.
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how do i know if i perfect parried an enemy without looking at my healthbar? is there a vfx indicator?
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>>483598804
>minimum str/dex to equip DMGS
>minimum vit/md/end you feel comfortable with
>the rest in int
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>>483598871
I loved shadow keep but I hated rauh so much

Probably just personal issue but it feels too "busy" on the eyes and exhausting.

Shadow keep is sorta more clean and it's easier for me to wrap my head around it without random trees and roots everywhere.
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>>483597082
>Todd says he has no plans to change the engine
Well he is a fucking moron.
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>no quarterstaff weapon
surprised they never added one
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>>483599085
blood-infused Bloodfiend's Arm as you'll be proccing bleed in a single charged R2 hit on most enemies
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>>483599010
>Bayle not in first
>Scadutree Avatar (literally the worst one) that high
Democracy failed.
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>Bayle's heart can't be duped like remembrances
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYLE!!!
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>>483598854
My friend got banned from Dark Souls 3 multiplayer because he used an ultrawide support mod and just didn't realise how bad From are with that shit. Keep in mind this was around the time hackers were bricking saves and injecting illegal items into players' inventories to get them banned.
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>>483597239
not on my cock
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>>483598681
>Infinite poise
A lot of AoWs stagger then just fine. Try claws with their default ashes for example.
Though I agree that tanking the initial fireball happens quite often. Not that it deals some huge damage.
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>>483599153
with today's patch everything has been nerfed
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>>483599093
>says the moon is shit, and space is cooler
>his biggest spell costs 42 int
>moon spells cost up to 72 int
Anon he is not wrong and men are worse at magic than women
The moon sisters outgrew their teacher because he was a male who refused to bow down before the moon
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>>483598681
>twoshots them with knight's lightning lance
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Carian women lust after men with high faith stats. Rellana wants Messmer, and Rellana wanted Radagon
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>>483599180
Rauh reminds me of Kings Field era dungeons. Just a pure dungeon diving, with a fuckload of branching passages and secrets
I'm not sure i even got everything there. Is there an advanced rot grease?
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>>483599082
swift slash is fun and anime as fuck.
it costs a lot of stamina though
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in a recent interview miyazaki said that marika forces herself on your tarnished if you do her ending and ranni forces herself on your tarnished if you do her ending. Miyazaki has a rape fetish I think.
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>>483598836
i think he's confused poise for the bullshit hyperarmor they pull out of their ass every other attack
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>>483597082
Too many old heads stuck to old ideas. The best Starfield could be was a lazy blend of what makes Fallout and Skyrim good. (They even fucking named them Starborn). Studios creatively dead, TES6 will be shit and they will sell millions because they seem to get some kind of Nintendo bonus from people. Probably from Todds cult of personality.
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>summon again, new set up
>someone using dlc stuff looks neat
>character does that stupid turn around on the spot animation instead of arcing like I fucking pressed
yeah thats it armored core time.
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what level are y'all at?
I'm at 150 but sitting on 3m runes and feeling quite foolish
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>no cool fire lighting bayle weapon

bring back tailcuts
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>>483599339
...and Radahn wants Miquella
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>>483598681
>Flame Knights
they hit like a truck but they do stagger
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>>483599180
>>483598871
I loved both desu, I think I enjoy every area in the DLC. It feels incredible, if this was just its own game it would feel varied enough to stand on its own but as a DLC its incredibly impressive. But a lot of Rauh I would say is for riding through on horseback, those tunnels were not a place I wished to stay long.
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whats the point of miquella inviting a bunch of losers to "help" him? they don't do shit.
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>ds1 dlc ending
save dusk, get no credit and meet her in the basegame where she says you look familiar
>ds2 dlc ending
meet with vendrick and create the giga anti hollowing crown
>ds3 dlc ending
go into the future, kill gael, help the little dragon girl create a new painting
>bb dlc ending
go to hunter hell to discover the sins of the old hunters, end the orphan of kos and send him back into the sea
>er dlc ending
stop miquella from being a god and elden lord or whatever and uhhh ansbach tells you to become the elden lord urself and give st trina peace
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>>483599383
I noticed exactly one such attack: when they step back and shit out a fireball at you. This is a fucking fireball tax you have to pay, if you don't want to eat the follow up combo, while you're dodging the fireball. Still, quite annoying when that happens.
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>>483598112
Is his gf the one I got his boots off of?
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>>483599339
Time to make a brooding faith edgelord for Ranni to fix.
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>>483599374
ranni ending doesn't seem very forced
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>>483598081
>>483597703
based thanks. beat him 3 tries after this. that explosion fucked my whole rhythm up every time
shouldve figured that out on my own ugh
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>>483598854
What's really irritating is whenever I reinstall Elden Ring it starts up with Ultrawide for like 10 seconds before reverting to black bars. What's equally irritating is Armored Core VI was my favorite ultrawide experience I've ever had.
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>>483599508
I hate the messmer fireball
even the fucking projectile is a delayed attack lmao
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>>483598681
>infinite poise
Sunflower shits on them bwo so I know that isnt true.

>>483599479
He needed Messmer's flame.
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>>483599374
Well in my goldmask ending she looks like a 50s housewife so that's fine by me
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>>483599471
>they aren't even in the bowl
>the bowl does nothing
What were they thinking?
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>>483599508
they still have windups that are impossible to knock them out of. i've used a greatsword and colossal hammer and it's impossible to prevent those attacks. total bullshit. i just run past them and ignore them now because they aren't fun to fight. these faggots went overboard with giving everything hyperarmor.
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>>483597586
Probably made him so obsessed with eggquella that the whole thing degenerated even more in his absence, with the opportunists like Varre becoming more influential. I like to imagine the knights and nobles were a core that followed him even pre-formless mother.
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>Lacerating Crossed-Tree
>buffs dash attack
>acquired by siding with leda against hornsent

>Ash of War: Swift slash
>a very good dash attack
>acquired by siding with hornsent against leda

this truly is one infernally shitty dev team
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>>483599339
>>483599431
Reminder tanith is a faith build too and rykard fell for her when he saw her dance. Canon tarnished is an established str faith build from all of the trailers we see. This is the reason ranni falls for you.
>but marika
She loves str chads. Look at godfrey, not only may you potentially be his descendant, but again, canon tarnished is str/faith. This is why they both crave your BTC
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>>483599495
>give st trina peace
i love when characters turn into item descriptions :)
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>>483599431
Carian men are subject to the same curse it seems. This must be why Rykard choose the snake over being gay. If the worst had come to pass, and Rykard truly needed to challenge Maliketh, would be be able to contain his lust?
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>>483599456
Rauh in coop is probably fun too. Like an actual adventure session in dnd, you never know what hides behind a corner.
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>>483598903
That's contained to the DLC
The fundamental flaw is that the DLC is completely and entirely self contained
Outside of being able to do your usual purchasing with rememberances at the Roundtable and of course update weapons, NOTHING that happens in the DLC impacts the base game and nothing in the base game impacts the DLC.
It's pretty shit especially when you think about shit like Old Hunters or Artorias of the Abyss that had a lot of little things impact the base game that made it feel like going through them mattered beyond just doing them.
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Reminder that the Tarnished has been complicit in three separate instances of drug-facilitated sexual assault each with a different substance
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>>483598640
ordovis GS is a str weapon with a fth tax
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>>483598836
>What kind of toothpick for a weapon are you using?
I'm using Rellana's Twinblades and the fucking tumours don't react to getting hit by them at all. They just keep attacking through it. Not even the WAs stagger them at all.
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>>483597812
pixeldrain /u/5WvkQmM1
DLC broke some stuff, sometimes it crashes the game, it's 100% the body modification.
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>summon freyja for the hippo fight
>she literally just keeps running into a wall like a retard
kek, what a retarded ass bitch
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>>483598351
>It's SHADOW in Old English or something
Yeah but it's still pronounced, more or less, SCHKA-doo, not shadow. If we follow old english pronunciation, anyway.
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>>483599556
By forced he means rape. I've read the article its confirmed that in marikas ending she rapes you and rannis she rapes you but in space. Alongside sellen and mohg your tarnished is a rape victim regardless of what you do.
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>>483599695
What if Mohg actually sheltered those albinaurics with good intentions in mind?
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After 4 hours, it's done.
Consort Radahn beat with powerstance colossal weapons, only rolling. NG+5, scadutree blessing 17.
Talismans were Golden Braid, Two-headed turtle, Dragoncrest Greathsield, Claw Talisman. Used Commander's Standard and Boiled Crab for buffs.
The first time I beat it with a greatshield build, 4th try, but respawned him with Cheat Engine since I wanted to try it in the "proper" way.

Honestly fuck this guy. After all these tries I can see what they were trying to achieve with the fight, but it's just so overtuned and a visual mess.
I managed to learn how to dodge every single attack in the second phase, but the methods felt random and unintuitive. Also the AI was kinda fucked at times.
Mesmer was so much better designed and polished is unreal.
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>>483597597
she is also better than her sister and found out that two moons :) and she love red hair like radadaddy XD

(Anyone else feel like Elden Ring has turned into tumblr-tier fantasy)
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>>483599637
>He needed Messmer's flame.
but for what reason? i know we burn the thorns, but miquella already attained godhood.
>the circlet of light which adorned Miquella's head as he returned in divine aspect.
mohg's corpse is already used for radahn since we kill him
and also, why would he invite us in the first place? when his logic is like "yeah only ONE god and only ONE lord allowed!"
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>>483599754
that's what I'm saying. it shouldn't be self-contained. stuffs in the main game should interact with the DLC and vice-versa
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>>483599795
Seek down
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Why are all the cool looking spells utter rubbish
I wanted Rain of Fire to be good, but it's terrible
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>>483599010
i misread the poll format lol
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>Beat Radahn in 30-40 tries
Am I good yet
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>>483599010
>Gaius lower than fucking Radahn
Just kill everyone at this point. You guys literally don't know shit about shit.
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>>483599831
If you lived in the part of England where people talk/look like that you'd understand.
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>>483599914
can't rape the willing so sucks to be a marika or mohg sextoy i guess
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>>483596274
i accidentally ordered them backwards and can't undo the vote lol
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>>483599495
>save dusk, get no credit and meet her in the basegame where she says you look familiar
Also if you save Sif and later summon her for the Manus battle, the cutscene with her in the base game changes completely.
>go to hunter hell to discover the sins of the old hunters, end the orphan of kos and send him back into the sea
Killing Maria and Orphan gives both the Doll and Gerhman some peace of mind in one way or another.
>go into the future, kill gael, help the little dragon girl create a new painting
I honestly cannot remember if either DLC impacted the base game but yes, the entire story is about Gael and his quest and it's told over two DLCs.
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Late to the party, what level should I start the dlc? I have a save after killing elden beast at 150.
start again or what?
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>>483599976
>but for what reason? i know we burn the thorns, but miquella already attained godhood.
He hadnt yet, he needed the thorns burned first.
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>>483599419
I am RL200 after beating the DLC
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>>483600080
150 is good
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>>483599914
>>483599374
its not rape if i want it.
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>mandatory chug tax fighting certain enemies
as if the base game didn't suffer from the "it's literally always better to just run for the boss door and ignore the dungeon entirely" problem already
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>>483599796
For Rellana's twinblade WA to stagger, your face must be right up the enemy's ass. The flames beyond melee range don't do shit. It's a cool looking, but honestly quite shite weapon.
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>>483599695
Mohg found his faith when he grew up in the sewer. And Varre is the entire reason the pureblood knights even exist. He's the one that discovered the process of making the bloody finger. Mohg was always a bombastic creep, and that is why we love him. Miquella just implanted the stupid idea that the only way he could be a Lord was through him.
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>>483596638
Knight all the way, you can goon in other games
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>>483599754
Im suprised that game devs and creators in general as soo scared of crossovers.
A dlc that melds the lands of dark souls with those of elden ring and seeing how the characers interact would be kino but my fanfic aside.
Its even dumber dlc dosnt impact the main game that much, a fun interaction would be seeing two fingers react to the soul of finger mother or something like that or countless other interactions that should have happend heck get the mogh cultists on the case
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Magic is a woman
The moons are female
Miyazaki is a feminist
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>>483600003
i mean, consort radahn is actually really tasteless
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>>483599982
Yes, but you gave an example of the divine beast head. The reason that happens is because it's all in the DLC.
In order for Rellana to react to you being Ranni's consort, she'd firstly have to have a cutscene, and then they'd have to make two versions and code it so she reacts with the appropriate one
Which apparently is now too hard for From to do despite the fact AOTA had this exact thing in reverse (events of the DLC changing a base game cutscene)
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>>483599976
You don't have your own motivations you can pick your character has ic motivations and that's following marikas grace. She sends you there to kill the two, she can send you to help ranni and and marry her, she only doesn't guide you if you do frenzy flame. Every single ending is marika's ending. You're nothing but some retard "just following orders"
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>>483600025
They haven't reached Radahn.
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>>483599702
The ash of war isn’t a running attack so the talisman shouldn’t apply to it
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I used my 3m runes to go from 150 to 168 and now I'm not getting summoned for fights...
it's owari da...
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>>483600080
150 is where all my characters are at, it may feel a little overleveled against the normal enemies but that feeling goes away quickly at any boss.
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>>483599795
the southern most tip of the continent. seek down
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>>483599419
I leveled to 155 because Radahn made me desperate, considering how I died immediately after the fight I think I was right to do so. I think I'll go 200 for my next character in the DLC.

>>483599976
your character is a puppet of a higher power (you, the player)
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>Gaius set
>no legs
I see why they were buddies with Radahn.
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>25+ bloodfiend chicken wing deals 217 bleed at 60 arcane
I dare not to ask what will happen if I hit my enemies dual wielding this.
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Hating Bayle isn't a personality.
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Radahn is a pedo
Miquella is a rapist
Malenia is a fujo
Godwyn is still dead
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if the outer gods are all celestial bodies how come there's not one related to the sun?
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>>483600293
>he fell for the psyop
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>>483600360
>bleednigger
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THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS
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BAYYYYYYYYYYYLE
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>>483600346
the albanuric nearby has them
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>>483600092
and why couldn't he just fucking nuke the place...surely if mohg (demigod) can be bewitched, the same could've been done to messmer? or how mohg could be charmed if even leda and the other losers are aware he did something?
>>483600262
yes, but in the DLC we are the fated lord of the "old age", there's no choice here.
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Freyja is so useless. I thought she could at least draw aggro cant even do that and the buffed boss stats were too much. Way easier without her
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>>483600390
Fell God got btfo
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>>483600390
the sun is gold, do the alchemy
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Is there literally nothing in the graveyard at the church of metyr?
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>the article is real
OH NO NO NO MARIKABROS??? RANNIBROS??? YOUR WAIFUS RAPE YOU IN THE END AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>483600390
They're going for TES lore rip-off. The Sun is a hole in the fabric of reality GW left after it said "fuck it" and withdrawn from the world.
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So is there any relation between the world devouring serpent and Messmer's serpent?
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>>483600346
Theres a cripple on a wolf near the scadutree chalice past his arena that has the legs
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Every new major boss took me 3-7 tries except Radahn. DLC was fun, bosses weren’t too hard but not too easy. Except Radahn, Radahn almost made me respec. They need to fix some of Radahn’s ground hitboxes, like jumping the quake after that combo of his doesn’t work for some reason. Maybe it does with an over the shoulder 2H weapon, since hands are higher.
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>>483600469
It seemed to have been sealed by Marika and he likely didnt want to fuck with Messmer since he had given up his strength to reach the lands of shadow.
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>>483600529
link?
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Marika was a victim
She still sacrifices her kids
She still mutilates her kids
She still homewrecks her kids
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>>483600013
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>>483599829
How's the animations? Is it just the typical, stiff souls movement, or did they try to implement some actual nice looking and "graceful" stuff like walking animations etc? Judging from the typical power stancing on the screenshot, I highly doubt it, but I'm still curious.
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>>483600390
what do you think the Golden Order is
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You know, after learning what fuckers the hornsent are, the fact that Marika send Messmer to brutalize and slaughter them to the last man is fucking awesome. I've changed my mind, Marika is based.
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>>483600529
Good.
Link the article, please.
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>>483596942
"Hey Marika is the one true god"
"Hey you worship a fire god so we're going to kill you kthx"
"Hey you read fate in the stars so we're going to kill you kthx wait fuck this isn't working we're going to marry you instead haha now fate is in the ring fuck you"
"hey you worship the wind we're going to kill you kthx"
"Hey you worship the dragon lord we're going to kill you oh wait we're friends now"
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>Still no answers to anything about the base game lore
MIYAHACKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>483595353
>Dlc bosses flame up to get a power up
Dark souls 3 called they are suing the land bettwen for copy right on a flame power up.
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I need to make this as a new character yet I can't really think of a way to bind this to Miquella and Destined Death both for a themed build.
But holy F U C K this works so well.
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>add in tons of new weapons
>they're all shit
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>>483599010
>Gaius under Radahn
/erg/ clearly smoking crack
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Cool DLC overall but here's my major gripes. I won't mention the good because everyone knows whats good anyway
>dungeon design is worse, they just spam the black ghost guys everywhere and it's really fucking boring
>if it's not a black ghost guy it's a strong knight (pick your flavor) placed seemignly randomly, or a soldier waiting around a corner with his attack wound up, hardcoded to attack instantly
also
>entire fucking abyss part of the map is locked behind an easy to miss illusory wall in a basement
I get ash lake was meant to be a secret zone but cmon this is a huge part of the game behind a fucking random illusory wall in a castle basement
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>>483600297
cheers
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>>483595353
>CURSE YOU BAYLE! I hereby vow! You will rue this day! Behold, a true drake warrior! And I, Igon! Your fear made flesh! Solid of scale you might be, foul dragon... But I will riddle with holes your rotten hide! With a hail of harpoons!

I aspire to be a D1 hater like this guy.
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>>483600516
there's a remembrance duplicator
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>>483600642
I would’ve done the exact same thing, to be quite honest. Her grandma was literally put into a jar as part of a flesh amalgamation I’d send Vlad the Impaler and his Radagon-tier knights to murder them too.
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>>483600781
lolget outskilled cheating nigger
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>>483600078
bb’s dlc intro and ending are so fucking good, i love the little monologues and how broken they sound

"Curse the fiends, their children too, and their children, forever true"

"Ahh, sweet child of kos, returned to the ocean. A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea, accepting of all that there is... and can be..."
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>>483600725
presumably if you were to side with Miquella he would still need a champion to take Destined Death for him in order to kill Radagon/Marika/GW
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>make npc that gives you baldachin blessing 2.0 and becomes your waifu
>doesn't hug you
>they don't even elaborate how would she feel like (soft? rocky? warm? cold?)
0/10 literally unplayable
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To people worried/confused that the DLC retconned the miquella + torrent connection, it still seems to be the case. Forager brood cookbook 7 is shared out of kindness "towards their saviour, whose name was unknown" and it gives the charming branch and the spirit raisin.

I think the implication is meant to be that miquella is more about the charming and trina is more about the sleep/ spirit shit, and miquetrina was a very different person before he lobotomized himself to become (probably) metyr's puppetslave.
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The map design and build up in certain aspects (shit like BAYLE) is a 10.
The rewards are garbage.
The ending is garbage.
Overall, 7/10. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>483600598
i've never seen a drag style poll before in my entire life
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>>483599010
>bayle above Midra
I dont get it, is it because le meme yelling summon?
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>>483600469
Yeah, the lord of the old age is every ending bar frenzy. Every other ending is just a slight alteration to marikas even rannis is the same age with the same order, the same system, with man having maybe more freedom, it's still by all means marika's age. That's what I'm telling you, your tarnished has no actual free will, regardless of what you do you're following marikas plans you're cementing her order even if you alter it, it's still fundamentally her age. You cannot change that in any way.
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I still can't get my character to look any good
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>>483600591
No cost too great.
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>>483600725
>>483600878
forgot to say but you'd basically be like his Maliketh or Blaidd
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>>483600878
I was thinking of a Miquella-seeker akin to Leda but disgusted at his actions of returning Radahn so he claims death itself to put that fucker's oversized cumsock to death.
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>>483600695
not true, we now know why placidusax is missing a few heads
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>>483600843
I honestly thought that the game was trying to drive home "Marika bad" before finding out the truth. No, Marika not bad. Marika good. Her only mistake was not doing it sooner. Fuck the hornsent, they BELONG burning on pikes.
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>>483601024
Yeah I dont get how anons make it look so easy
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>>483600367
CURSE YOU, BAYLE
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>>483601024
https://youtu.be/QCN4srZIk_I?si=FgzN_v1OTNY16ilz
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>>483599991
Thanks. I had been to this part but didn't realize you could go down into the hole.
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>>483599471
What the fuck is the giant arch supposed to even be?
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>>483599010
Romina underrated
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>>483601003
Marika vanishes in Ranni's ending, though.
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>>483600830
This is why everyone liked iguaza
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>>483601137
it looks cool
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>>483601146
She's too weak.
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Ansbach is my NIGGA
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>>483600892
probably like holding a warm stone in the sun
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still the creepiest thing in the game. the way the singing is dissonant with the song is so unsettling.
https://youtu.be/tJmWhedITTg?si=mxjDhNpUz0cOu1Xy
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>>483601115
DLC map is extremely vertical, there's lots of places where you can go down or under/through what looks like impassible mountains. you can get to Shadow Keep before fighting Rellana for instance.
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Is there a way to safely duplicate a save (as in having it right below the original). I want to start the dlc again with one of my characters, which was DEX/INT, with all of the spells looted off, but i'd also like to do it as a full on DEX (or maybe some int/fth hybrid), can't be bothered to do the whole game again
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Magic. Is. Female.

The moon is bigger than the greater will.

You need a vagina to reach past 60 int.

This is canon. DLC confirms.
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>priestess heart stone
>floral mace
>occult beast claws
>dragon communion seal
>florissax buff
>bayle flame lightning
>ancient dragon lightning
>knight lightning spear
>lord's heal
How's my Dragon Priestess setup?
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>>483600613
Her ponytail swishes around rather nicely, the legs look a little weird lifting doors and stuff, and the wrists bend weirdly sometimes.
No new animations, just the standard ER anims.
but overall it's a pretty decent mod to look at, at least.
You could pair it up with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_iu-mgSrno&t=4s
but I haven't tried it personally.
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>>483600469
A single cut line of dialogue says that miquella and messmer not only know each other but were on good terms. And frabkly why the fuck wouldn't they be? Messmer isn't even portrayed as evil in the game.
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>>483601098
I'm definitely using this. Maybe changing it to purple eyes/hair and white eyelashes so I can be Trina and beat Miquella.
>>483601272
Yes, you can find it on youtube. I myself duped the same character ~4 times for the DLC.
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>>483601275
Radahn
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>>483600184
Off the top of my head
>Hyetta reacting to you finding Midra, telling you more of his and Nanaya's backstory, trying to maybe worm herself in as your Nanaya, and saying that while he was weak, you'll do well
>Ranni's with you as a doll so, have her react after sitting down at the grace post Rellana and give her dialogue about her aunt.
>Also give her dialogue when finishing Ymir's quest. Something along the lines that her rebellion against the Fingers is now even more justified
>Also give the Finger Crone at Roundtable hole a reaction to the Fingers being basically idiots flying blind. Probably despair, although she seems to be willing to accept burning the Erdtree so she's a cool granny so perhaps not
>Give Gideon one last dialogue about the events post DLC and have him reward you with a final spell for finding out about Miquella, and give him a unique spell for his boss battle like every other rune bearer gets
>If Jerren's alive let him react to Freyja's ultimate fate. Sadness most like
As for in the DLC itself
>Rellana reacting to you being Ranni's consort
>Midra reacting to you being touched by the three fingers
>Romina reacting to you killing Malenia. Maybe even an option to use the unalloyed gold needle on her if you have it
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>>483600367
>Hating Bayle isn't a personality.
Correct. But hating Ranni the Bitch and all her bitch simps? That is in fact a personality.
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>>483601363
he has an updated version linked in the description too
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>The Flask of Crimson Tears replenishes your HP
>The Flask of Cerulean Tears replenishes your FP
What can I drink to replenish my PP?
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>>483601386
he's a troon
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>>483600725
Well, Miquella needs a shadow and you may as well take the sword from the best shadow to be the bestest shadow.
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>>483599010
This list is biased towards rollslop. Anybody who uses a shield would swap gaius and relanna.
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>>483601460
Flask of Trina's Nectar
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>>483601347
>miquella and messmer not only know each other but were on good terms
why couldn't he just burn the shit them
i want to kill myself
>messmer isn't even portrayed as evil in the game
yeah i noticed that, he seems to be chilling in his chamber
>>483601404
no details allowed. fucking kenneth haight has no dialogue when the meteor falls right next to his fucking fort.
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>>483601485
also the two moon knights
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>>483601159
She vanishes but she still continues on marikas legacy, it's still her age, it's why her grace can point you down her quest. Like it or not rannifag you continue marikas age even if it's on the moon.
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>>483601460
Ether, buy it at the pokemart
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>>483601460
Strength-Knot Crystal Tear
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>>483601386
Would lose to his mom
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Why did they used the bud saint's ost in trailer depicting messmer actions? I though such great and beautiful ost is messmer's ost but his actual one is dull and boring.
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>>483600003
he's right
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>>483600184
>le epic Crossover
Bro, your zoomer is showing
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>>483601324
2B finds herself in every game
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>>483601460
Your PP will forever be small
Try Thiollier's concoction to deal with it
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>>483595623
So cute!
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>>483600781
You got outplayed
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>RNG gave me foggy weather
>reload the map until it's clear
Tell me I'm not the only one who is autistic enough to do that.
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whats the fastest way to get these on a new playthrough? been forever since I played from the beginning
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>>483601572
I think the original plot idea was that miquella didn't want you there. Like think about it, how did miquella get into the tower if its sealed? Makes more sense if the twist is that he sealed it.
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So this was Romina.
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>>483601678
probably quickstep because i'll be using it to play a witcher type character
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>>483600781
solitude armor give ludicrous poise and needs to be nerfed asap
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>>483601639
yup, was disapointed when that wasn't Messmer theme (which is still great). Romina is really my fav song of the dlc, but i hated the boss fight, not mechanically, but the whole presentation of it, felt like a Dark Souls 2 boss
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>>483601812
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ANYONE
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Messmer is on fucking crack, goddamn. I don't think any of the base game bosses could stand a chance against this dude.
Also can he even be staggered? I put like 6 charged greatsword heavies into his face and he didn't even flinch.
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>the final conclusion to Elden Ring is gay shota, necro, mind control, incest
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Caestus bros... how tolerable is the DLC with our favorite weapon?
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>>483601324
>that fucking slow walking animation
https://youtu.be/sgKK0YRQyMQ
The rest looks pretty nice overall, but holy shit that walk killed my sides..
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Ranni handholding and cuddling
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>>483601874
The poleblade matches up, it’s her.
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>>483600390
Its the fell god and its already dead
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>>483601792
grand merchant mod. there is no "fast" way to get to the DLC because the dumb faggots locked it behind the endgame version of Mohg.
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>>483601572
Oh and I forgot fucking Melina...which to be fair the goddamn game does too
Why the fuck she has no dialogue at various stages including the church graces and Midra is beyond me. Or after Messmer.
Ranni's the worst offender though. She's LITERALLY voice. Just call in the VA to do some fucking voice lines for fucks sake.
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>>483601852
it's heavy as fuck
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>>483601894
>+8 flask
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>>483601639
because that's her in the trailer
>>483601794
he probably doesn't, you go against his plans after all
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>>483601927
It's been nerfed and getting nerfed again you're fine
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>>483601874
because her remembrance specifically states it her retard
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>>483601912
Don’t forget female. Elden Ring is female.
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>>483601927
It will become tolerable once you get martial arts "weapon". And after that you will have no excuse to continue using caestus.
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>>483601894
>given a specifically fire-resistant medium shield with the same guard rate as brass shield
>uses a piece of shit with a fire enchant
why are shieldfags like this?
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>>483602037
Yeah I couldn't be fucked looking for more of those things. It's enough for me.
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>>483601874
Because her rememberance literally talks about the exact event depicted in the trailer.
Romina and the scarlet rot faction got shafted the worst
The Fingers at least got a full questline and extremely important lore, and Midra got a cool cutscene and the best area in terms of ambience.
Romina got what? Some pink shit in some ruins and a boss battle without even a fucking cutscene.
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>>483602018
damn im kinda hesitant to use mods since I do a lot of online play. you know if they flag characters that get weapons from mods?
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Empyreans are female
Magic is female
Moon > greater will
Malenia is a fujoshi
Radahn is a pederast
Miquella is a rapist
Fingers are aliens
Ymir is a tranny

What else?
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Is Spear of the Impaler worth building? I can't figure out a good stat spread.
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>>483601639
because she's the lady in the burning church
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i want melina and messmer\ miquella and malemia family brother\sister bonding art. miquella and messer spooling their little sisters
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>>483602038
>he probably doesn't, you go against his plans after all
not to mention you spend most of the base game killing almost his entire family
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>>483602195
>specifically fire-resistant medium shield
huh? which one? I use the carian shield cause it looks cool.
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>>483601313
>dragon communion seal
>bayle flame lightning
You want the dragon MAN trnasformation for communion spells.
The priestess is for lightning incantations
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>>483602038
Also makes for a nice little plot segue into the gank fight, when all the other followers realize you never even saw miquella's guidance and try to kill you.
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>>483602029
the chest piece alone is 45 poise with the right pieces you can take 2 hits from anything smaller than great weapons(and probably some great weapons) you become untradeable like original poise
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THE DLC FEELS UNFINISHED.
MY COPE: A PATCH FIXING IT.
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>Assassin's Gambit totally trivializes the frenzy area
lmao
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>>483602330
it's fine
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>>483601159
She doesn't vanish she outright dies and ranni takes her place. What anon is getting at is, despite her complaints, she ultimately does exactly what marika wants her to do in the end, become a god, keep the god x elden lord thing, keep the golden order, she just moves it so no one can fuck with it, which isn't an actual change in age as there's no significant difference. The only ending that changes anything is frenzy as it burns it all down, there's no god, no marika or her replacement, no order, nothing but the flames and melina malding
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>>483596791
>cast gravitational missile at the ground
>follow-up with Messmer's orb as the host and his summons scuttle around like cockroaches
INT/FAI won
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>>483599374
He never said that
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Giving Miquella a kiss when he gets close to whisper in my ear.
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>>483602328
>Moon > greater will
Utterly wrong
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>>483602470
stealth spells are insanely broken in EVERY souls borne game
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>>483602320
no equipment is fine, you only get flagged if you put key items in your inventory before the correct flag is set. like giving yourself haligtree medallions or great runes or whatever before leaving Limgrave.

the alternative is there's also a savegame manager and someone made a save that 100% the base game and has every item and is ready go to into the DLC. i've been playing on a character derived from that and it's fine. it's all on nexusmods.
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I bet everyone would forgive the Scadutree grinding if you had to give them to a cool NPC with a meme personality instead of upgrading them at bonfires. That's how shallow you people are.
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N-no Marika!
Don't take my seed!
AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>483602038
>>483602332
trailer wasn't about her being killed by evil snake dude. it was about MESSMER and HIS war not about the victim of his slaughter.
The peak of romalia's OST is in lion dancers being impaled by messmer
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>>483596791
yeah it's pretty cool
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>>483602406
You'll notice I only have one communion spell, and it's strong enough without the 20% buff off the rock heart. I'm using the communion seal because of the arcane scaling more than the raw buff to communion.
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>>483602439
They glued the scraps of an unfinished DLC onto a finished one. All the empty areas focused on ayylmao and outer god stuff are from the cancelled DLC
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>>483602576
yeah if it was a hot girl that gave me asmr joi like Hyetta... you're right...
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>>483602470
Personally, I love it when items can be used to solve puzzles. Does assassin's gambit work in the deathblight catacomb, for that matter?
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>>483602439
probably won't be adding new content but i'm sure it'll fix some of these boring overtuned/buggy bosses. the hippo's hitboxes are fangame amateur tier embarrassing.
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>>483602576
grinding? just explore
it will get grindy when making new characters, that i agree with
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>>483602576
i don't really mind skibidis because i explore and it really doesn't take that long to collect them. what i do mind is that you need 50/50 to get max blessing instead of being like golden seeds where there are a few extras
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>>483602328
The dlc establishes the moon as not being important but under the domain of the greater will like most celestial bodies are. It makes ranni's ending dumber because she's just moving the elden ring from the erdtree a place beholden to the greater will, to the moon, a place beholden to the greater will. She doesn't even realize it. She's a fucking slave to fate. She did what she was meant to despite everything she tried she just changed the location of the elden ring
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why does everything feel half baked...?
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>>483602638
dude read the fucking lore, she is explicitly said to do the exact thing that was done in the story trailer
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>>483602576
You jest but that's a good idea. Melina should've appeared at every level up too.
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>>483602740
Dragon shield from dark souls
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>>483602846
2 FUCKING YEARS
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i just remembered about the weird egg rennala had, we won't get any new info about it right? fuck that "plot", right?
>>483602358
we finish what he started: we kill radahn and he even acknowledges it.
family: godrick (evil), mohg (bewitched (?), morgott (who cares), malenia (not even he cares about her anymore), rykard (not him anymore), marika/radagon ("dead")
and i doubt he would care since he discarded his feelings or whatever
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>>483602535
>kissing him to get him off guard when he feels like he's the one in control
This is a good strategy to break out of the hold, I will need to do it dozens of times to be better at it
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>>483602576
i don't mind the idea behind them but it's going to make repeated playthroughs a pain and it's a fig leaf over how badly balance the DLC is overall.
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>>483602575
thanks ill look into it, def want to go fists right away
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>>483602913
the egg is described already in lore
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>>483602846
Because it literally is. Its a complete DLC with a cancelled on stapled onto it
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>>483602492
>golden order
It's no longer the golden order innit. It's an order, but not golden. Which is just a fancy way to say that instead of directly impacting the world like the sun, it's distant and unfeeling like the moon.
Gods won't save you anymore, it's up to you, basically.
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>>483602839
I think Ranni knows she's a slave to fate. She talks about fate constantly. She just think fate belongs in the sky and not in the tree.
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>>483602740
>4% more than brass
Waow, what a game changer anon. I'm almost tempted to go look for it.
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>>483602913
the egg is just the magic thing she uses to rebirth you, there's no new info to be had about it.
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>>483602874
fuck off, rotfag, this ost is too good for her, it's messmer ost.
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One thing I'll never get used to in Elden Ring is the height for it takes you to take damage from, which is barely below the level it'll kill you automatically.
I'd appreciate if someone was kind enough to share the paint comic of Chosen Undead landing in Nito's area and kneecaps exploding, taking a sippy and AIIIIEEIIIII.
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>>483602576
dumbest projection award
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>>483602846
I hate how hot I find female Chud
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>>483602839
Rannibros??? Is our wife retarded?
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so is Trina's nectar just her saliva, are we french kissing to get poisoned
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Anybody here enjoy Aris playthrough of ER with his cold balding star 80 arcane build that only swapped the balding stars to occults after he beat Melina but before maliketh lol and now he's 80 something arcaning the dlc
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the one shotting abyss creatures are so fucking stupid
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>>483599374
Neither of them can force themselves on me since you can't rape the willing.
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>>483601678
the inpact of that aow feels so weak like a gentle poke and then I bounce off them, it should at least knock npc's over
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>>483602627
Oh no haha guess i lost and have to be her forced consort
how awful haha imagine what she'll do
some barbarian shaman woman
dreadful
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>>483602692
Yes.
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Optimal level and wep upgrade for co op fun?
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>>483602913
We killed radahn but he also knows we exist as a weapon created by marika to kill all of her kids. He is literally in a race to ascend before we kill him
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>>483603238
its titty milk
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Is it just me or is the new frenzy stuff kind of unusable in pvp?
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>>483603175
>durr people just believe the opposite things to what they say, i'm so smart!
Learn punctuation and grammar, or leave this website.
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>>483603238
No, that's stupid. We're clearing bringing our hand to our mouth. We're collecting her sleepy drool as it pours.
Verification not required.
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>>483602740
SEX
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>>483603148
reeeee my headcanon doesnt fit the lore reeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>483603107
Cope rannifag. She's just marikajr
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>8/10 ghosts are using some fingerprint tier meme shield
Why even play the game at that pointl. just watch a playthrough
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>get summoned for Bayle
>equip my dragon slaying katana
>host cuts me off
???
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>>483603360
Now post the one where she is preggers
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>>483603424
The Midra sword might be the best PvP weapon of all time but they botched it by removing the frenzy theme when you get it.
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Are the crucible wings good
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>>483603539
it's not their fault that
a. shields are good and especially good in the dlc
b. there is one shield that is clearly better than everything else in the game
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>>483603486
>she's just Marika jr
Ranni's far more like Marika than she wants to admit but that's beside the point.
It's objectively not the same order at all. Both metaphorically and literally.
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>>483603576
>cheat
>hosts doesnt want cheaters
i dont see an issue
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How does the dancer set looks like in a type A? I think it would look cute in a twink.
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Divine Bird Feathers either needs triple the damage or 1/3rd the FP use when continually casting. Christ alive, this game does not wanting you using all the spells.
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>>483600529
What are you talking about?
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>>483603539
blame streamers like asmongold
notice how it got reviewbombed when streamers started quitting in mass
meanwhile somehow journalists beat pre-nerf consort radahn (yes, the preview version was much harder than on release)
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>>483603149
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>>483603594
has anyone tested if its guaranteed after a frenzy proc
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>>483603238
i thought we touched her hair?
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>>483603730
(((streamers))) are worse and whinier than fucking journalists
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>>483602570
i will never forgive faggot devs for making the assassin veil talisman work only in pvp
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getting real sick of rada fruit
even on low settings that stupid beam still causes fps drops
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>Moistcirtikal after defeating radahn: that was definitely not the ending
>his chat: no that was it
>Moistcritikal:What?! i thought there was an ACTUAL ending with St Trina

lol even the streamsloppers are turning on this dlc
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>>483603730
asmonmald
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Does increasing INT actually buff Meteoric Ore Greatsword's weapon art? It's weird how ARC doesn't actually do anything despite having Scaling
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>>483603834
it does work in pve but the range is pretty far so kinda useless
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>>483595353
Lmao this is like the third time From caved in to normies since ER released.
Fuck this company is dead,
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>>483603396
torrent choose us, man.
that should be enough for miquella to, at the very least, act different towards us.
this entire plot point is dropped because they wanted to make the "actual, epic consort" radahn instead of us, the person he's been grooming since the beginning of the game.
we also don't know what his relationship with melina and ranni is/was like, which also makes me mad. "hehe is that torrent? here: i was entrusted this."
ranni's first dialogue when you meet her in the tower is she's glad to see torrent healthy. i hate this dlc piece of shit miyazaki hack
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>>483603730
>somehow journalists beat pre-nerf consort radahn

I know that From provided guides to everyone, but i still don't believe this. Unless they were also wielding shields.
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>>483601894
I beat him second try with the new ice stomp aow and mimic tear at skibidi 15
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>>483603983
why wouldn't you have a shield equipped
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>>483602839
THEN WHY DOES SHE DO EVERYTHING SHE DOES WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT
WHY DID SHE KILL HERSELF AND GODWYN
WHY DID SHE REBEL AGAINST THE FINGERS
WHY DID SHE KILL HER OWN FINGERS
WHY DID SHE DO EVERYTHING SHE DID IF SHE WAS JUST GOING TO DO WHAT MARIKA WANTED
WHY DID SHE DO EVERYTHING IF SHE JUST CONTINUED MARIKAS LEGACY BUT WITH THE MOON INSTEAD OF THE ERDTREE
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT IF HER AGE ISNT REALLY A NEW AGE
IS THIS WHY MARIKA POINTS YOU ALONG HER QUEST IF YOU DO IT
WHY DOES SHE SEEM LIKE A RETARDED LIBERTARIAN
RANNIIIII MARIKAAAA I HATE YOU MANIPULATIVE BITCHES THE FLAME OF FRENZY IS THE ONLY TRUTH AAAAAAAA MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WOORLD
I GIVE UP ON YOU RANNI
ILL NEVER JOIN YOU MARIKA
BURN BURN BURN THE DOLL BURN THE STATUE BURN THE WHORE BURN THE LOLBERT BURN THEM ALL LET ALL RETURN TO RUIN LET WLL RETURN TO ASH LET ALL BE TAKEN BY THE FLAME
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Any suggestions for better light armor fashion? About to head to Caelid next so don't really know what're all the options available right now.

Chest has to stay bare of course, unless there's some minimal chestpiece out there.
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>>483603852
>go back to St Trina
>tell her you did the deed
>She's the new ending waifu not Miquella
>you have to take care of a perpetually sleepy goddess while managing the Sleepy Order
Would this satisfy everyone?
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>>483595780
They have 800 AR when infused with Magic on a 80 INT build.
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>>483603539
Don't give a shit what sweats say, this game penalizes most builds. God bless you if you go full spellcaster.
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>>483603539
>STOP MAKING THE GAME EASIER FOR YOURSELF
why?
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>>483603876
i don't have the weapon but maybe this will help

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17og1zLnCfdL9TFvTnI4A9Nf9EwkBbutishHPTGBDAE8/edit
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>>483604104
it would be a start if it was even a thing in the game and not people coping
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>>483603972
not really
miquella was grooming us, yes, but only so we could clear the path and make it easier for him to revive radahn and make him his promised consort
the whole point is that so-called kind miquella was no better than his mother; any means was justified for them as long as the end they desired would come
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>>483603539
I dont want to use fingerprint but it shits on the others so hard I'm crippling myself if i dont
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>>483602839
>The dlc establishes the moon as not being important but under the domain of the greater will
No it doesn't, Ymir's huffing copium on that shit.
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Does gaius set not have leg armor?
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>>483604085
>believing shabriri propaganda (headcanon)
ngmi.
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>>483604102
Could use the cloak but it's kinda girly.
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Is there a new Prattling Pate in the DLC? Where do you find it?
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does aspects of the crucible: wings scale off of faith or weapon damage?
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Damn it feels good to be a STRchad. Don't look now but they are STILL seething that we carry slabs of rocks around for protection and attacking.
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>>483603642
The game tells us otherwise, if the moon is under the greater will she changes the location of the order but not the order itself, mankind can make its own decisions but it was doing that late in marika's age already, marika herself tells her children to make their own decisions, marika herself tells her people to criticize the golden order, marika herself tells her people to alter what's there but not truly replace it as per melina's direct quoting of her. It's marikas age still even if she's gone. You can cope as hard as you want. But you can't reject the truth. Marika fucking won.
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>>483595780
>backhand blades but a shitty R2 is replaced by a ranged attack
pretty busted and they look great like other smithscripts
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>>483604256
I'm just wondering if people wanted to fuck Miquella or just wanted more endings in general
Frankly I don't get wanting a Miquella consort ending. He was always shady. And now we know that. St Trina was literally the embodiment of his capacity for love and kindness.
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>>483603767
Thou art a gentleman and a scholar
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>radahn is the most boring demigod in the game
>gets sucked off the hardest, every lore description is just him getting wanked
>despite being haphazardly shoved into the DLC he's still a completely non character that doesn't speak only I guess he likes little boy cock now

Reddit ruins yet another game with their dogshit taste
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>>483604472
i think it wouldn't kill from to put a bit more story in their games
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>>483604472
>I'm just wondering if people wanted to fuck Miquella or just wanted more endings in general
both, people want both.
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Oh wow, so, aside from Bayle, Radhan, Messmer, Rellana and Midra all of the bosses are fucking C-tier shit. The exploration is somehow worse than the base game and the DLC has even more copy paste and huge empty areas.

What a fucking stinker, honestly.
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>>483604291
Found it, ignore this.
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>>483604463
> if the moon is under the greater will she changes
It's not. So you're wrong.
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>>483602552
>>483602839
Um, no, since there would be an even bigger (72+) spell otherwise.

The moon is bigger than the greater will.
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This game has always had its fair share of horseshit but enemies literally jumping in a 180° curve around a wall to hit you is definitely a new one. That looked silly as fuck.
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>>483604283
Not him but rellana getting both moons leads to him being right. Usually in these games the madman has truth to his words
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>continental chinks and ruskies are worse players than western games journalists
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
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defend this change
https://streamable.com/6cuelr
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>>483604085
Ranni and the player, now her consort, are heading off to slay the Greater Will in my headcanon.
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does the grace always indicate on the map when you're supposed to go to a new area where you haven't unlocked the map yet?
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Can someone point to where the Pest that i can heal with a warmth stone is?
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>>483604591
The overwhelming amount of copy pasted regular enemies really gets to me. These fucks had years, what have they been doing?
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I really think that the first DLC was supposed to be Messmer, Rellana, Gaius, Purtrid Knight with optional Bayle/Midra boss and it got stitched together into a "Miquella" DLC with Scadutree, Lion Dancer, Radahn, Fingerlady and Romina kind of hastily added on
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WHERE ARE THESE NPC FUCKS AFTER THE RUNE BREAKS, REEEE
I only found Alchestbreach aka that mohg nerd in the Shadow Keep's library, where's everyone else?
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>>483604278
there's no "clear the path" dude, miquella's gang has 7 very strong and capable people, leda is confident enough in her abilities that she could just kill two random people of the group and make it not matters for miquella's plan at all
>whole point is that so-called kind miquella was no better than his mother; any means was justified for them as long as the end they desired would come
i dont mind miquella in the dlc, it's just his whole character before that (caelid swamp, radahn, etc) that they added in the dlc to give him more lore fucking sucks and doesn't fit him at all
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beyond it being hard or easy, can we all agree phase 2 radahn has too many effects and his multi-slam attack looks stupid as fuck
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>>483596472
he's an unironic child, both in body and mind, an a incredibly naive one at that, that's the only explanation i can come up with to justify him walking on the exact ame path as Marika while believing the result would somehow be different.
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>>483604768
i forget what its called but its just north of the church queelag invades you at for the second time
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how do you get up there?
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>>483604687
No it doesn't.
There were always two moons. The Rennala's full moon says she say it in her youth, Ranni's dark moon says she was lead to it by her mother (so her mother had also seen it), and Rellana's says she say both with Rennala when they were young.
Whatever the moons are or what it means to see them, Rennala and Rellana saw them in their youth and Ranni was lead to the dark moon by Rennala.
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le plin plon man
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>>483604813
working on dark souls 4 allegedly
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>>483597339
Can't you dual wield two separate ones for that?
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The Greater Will may have made everything, but it's not actually around to Will things. It stopped talking to the Fingers a long time ago.

But in Marika's own words,
Of course you're doing what Marika wants. The entire Grace and Tarnished thing is her 6D chess keikaku doori.
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So basically skadoo fragments work on a scailing system and ocne you hit 12 you're "softcapped" now?
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>>483583315
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>>483599914
I’d love to read the article. Link?
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>>483604917
>Finally going back to a real waifu
Thank the gods
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>>483604917
Incorrect. DS is finished, the story is wrapped up and Miyazaki himself said they wont do anymore. Its probably just going to be another soulslike under a different name.
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Marika's blessings are just her bottled titty milk
My tarnished is forced to drink it every night send hel-
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>>483604896
Dragon Altar (where there's a giant dragon on the map)
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>>483604752
>trying to kill a lightless void billions of light years away that didn't even do anything wrong
>can fart out a star to nuke her shitty rock any time it wants
Uh good luck with that Ranni
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>>483604901
Saw*
Fuck me that was twice in one post.
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>>483604825
freya is in the shadowkeep
hornsent can be summoned for mesmer
thiollier doesn't move until you mention trina
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Remember where you came from

remember your roots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JH0EfTIKw
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>greaves
>greaves
>lordsworn straightsword
oh im going to enjoy burning this tree
(looking for gauntlets to complete the set incase I want gold armor) I think I got everything else I want else see you in ng+
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>>483604930
I don't want to dual wield. I want just 1 magic sword without any worthless fire baggage.
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>>483604857
based lorelet
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>>483604403
Lamenter dungeon, it's a wailing man that sounds pretty silly
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I've explored every inch of this fort how do I get over there???
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>>483604325
I HATE THE CURRENT ORDER
I HATE THE WAY THE WORLD IS
I HATE MARIKA
I HATE RANNI
I HATE THEM SO MUCH
I HATE THE ERDTREE
I HATE THE MOON
I HATE THE ELDEN RING
I HATE THE GOLDEN ORDER
I HATE THE GOLDEN ORDER BUT ON MOON
I HATE THE GOLDEN ORDER BUT MORE ORDER
I HATE THE GOLDEN ORDER BUT HORNIGGERS
I HATE THE GOLDEN ORDER BUT UNDEAD
THERE'S NO ACTUAL GENUINE CHANGE JUST SLIGHT ALTERATIONS
SO FUCK IT FUCK IT ALL
NONE OF THESE ENDINGS SAVE ANYONE
NONE OF THESE ENDINGS TRULY HELP ANYONE
ALL OF THESE ENDINGS ARE THE SAME
IT'S THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE
SO I BURN IT
ALL OF IT
ALL OF YOU
RANNISIMPS MARIKASIMPS IM TAKING YOU ALL WITH ME
IM BURNING EVERYTHING EVEN THIS THREAD
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>>483604884
Thank you so much anon!
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>>483604738
I can't, but can you tell me what's the music from in the original trailer?
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>>483605013
good.
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>>483603539
These are the people who didn't learn how to play the game in the base game because they beat it once with some combination of
>Bloodhound's Fang, Blasphemous Blade, Moonveil, post-buff Rivers of Blood, pre-nerf SoNaF, etc.
>rot breath
>magic spam
>dual colossal jumping L1 spam
>infinite FP comet azur
>spirit ashes
>summoning other players
I'm not saying this to disparage them, I'm simply stating the fact that it's easy to beat Elden Ring without ever actually learning how to play the game on a basic level. Consider that even Malenia, the hardest boss in the game and one of the hardest bosses FromSoft has ever made, is trivialized by spamming Taker's Flames or Giant Hunt, even without a spirit ash summon. Seriously, just watch this shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJB8Czckeo

Eking out a win with these tactics teaches you nothing about Elden Ring's mechanics. It doesn't teach you about how to dodge, because you can win the war of attrition without rolling. It doesn't teach you how to space any attack other than L2 or jumping L1. It doesn't teach you that you can (and should) jump to dodge. It doesn't teach you to adapt to different challenges, because you can brute force your way through any boss in the game with these tactics which work on every boss. It's like letting AI do your homework. You pass the class, but you learn nothing, and you're fucked if you're ever tested by something that the AI-generated answer doesn't apply to. The issue is that the DLC is exactly that, and rather than adapt and actually learn how to engage with the game's mechanics people AI-generated a new solution: shieldpoking behind fingerprint greatshield.
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>>483604591
The exploration is excellent
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>>483604738
Man, I wonder what happened, the old version was so good by comparison
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so why did nanaya tell midra to endure? surely she would want him to go full frenzy considering shes likely a finger maiden like hyetta
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>>483604865
yes
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>>483603972
Anon, we were chosen by marika to become the elden lord and radagon literally tries to kill us. Miquella and trina have this exact same relationship, trina even tells us to kill miquela. Your issue is that you are still conflating the two as a singular person.

Torrent and the spirit calling bell is from st. Trina.
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>Eclipse? It didn't matter.
>Castle Sol? Yeah no, it doesn't matter.
>St. Trina? Who?
>Melina? Who cares, she doesn't matter.
>Gloam eyed queen? Doesn't matter.
>Godwyn? He never mattered.
>all these story beats and lore-rich item descriptions we set up for the DLC? Yeah it doesn't matter. We're just going to have you fight Radahn again LOL
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>>483604646
Except the dlc shows this with ymir and rellanas moons. Face it rannifag. Your wife got played by fate.
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>watch a video ranking the DLC incantations
>all the comments are basically saying the spells are too slow/weak or that bosses are too fast for casting
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>>483605139
Thanks. I've been here, but, I guess, I missed it somehow.
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If they didn’t want me to think that the moon is greater than the Greater Will, why did they throw in Ymir’s lore and also throw in Rellana’s Twin Moons that more or less disproves it?

Either From is retarded/bad at storytelling consistency, or it went out of its way to throw favouritism to the Carians.

It’s one or the other.
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>>483605071
Nah, DS1 was trash desu
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>>483605186
You okay, man? You want some grapes?
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>players get hyper armor on colossal weapon attacks but only if they're also wearing the heaviest armor
>enemies get hyper armor on literally everything no matter what
Fun. Balanced. Peak game design. Love that enemies can randomly decide an opening isn't actually an opening at all. Wouldn't want skill to matter in this game at all.
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>>483604952
yeah they changed the curve
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>>483603767
people complaining about messmer's opener should really go play dark souls and experience the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>483603983
They used summons.
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>>483605357
isnt there literally a new talisman that boosts casting speed at the cost of damage received
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>>483605393
You are so original and valid
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>>483605186
Stop being a fucking schizo and believing other schizos that can't actually understand English more complex than fucking grade school
>>483605353
Anon, NOTHING Ymir says is
1. Totally accurate
2. Ponts to the moon being made by the GW or under it's influence
3. Is in any way related to why the existing order and Ranni's orders are fundamentally different.
You are as mad as Ymir. I'm sure next you'll be trooning out like him.
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Mentally ill Carian women...
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>>483604901
Rannifag cope. Goldmask is right.
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>>483605175
You jump up there via a spirit spring from a cliff way below the castle. I think it's the around the poison swamp with the gravebirds.
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>>483605352
I would have liked an eclipse themed sun or moon spell, not twin boobs.

I am really fed up with all the big missed opportunities. It is fucking surreal.
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>>483603107
Christianity was originally a cult that worshipped the sun (the Son) in the form of Jesus, this is probably meant to be like Christianity after his death
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>>483605256
not that your post is wrong but taker's flames no longer knocks down
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Bayle is a bad fight.
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>>483605393
worst opinion in thread so far
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>>483605065
>freya is in the shadowkeep
Got a spot?
And after Mesmer, does he go back to where he was? If not, then where?
Thilloier's gay.
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>>483604865
It's just not a fun experience if you are fairly squisy and rely on rolling.
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>>483603852
>"cutscene"
>that could've been just a item description
>ends without anything else
of course it's lame
>>483605407
>barricade shield makes every humanoid enemy a joke in the base game
>enter DLC
>knight has 5 hit combo that doesn't bounce off shields, but some of his normal attacks do
???
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>>483605450
oh yeah let me just take 30% more damage
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>>483605454
>Fill an area with literal dragona sses
>Introduce a dogshit 'arena' boss
Say what you want about DS2 but it wore it's jank on its sleeve instead of pretending to be anything more than it was you fucking retard im joking lol
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ranni's cold, hard and perfectly flat chest.
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If a Type B went in Messmer's Dark Chamber during that certain time of the year do you guys think
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>>483583315

>>483605227
anytime!
>>483605175
there's two spirit springs way down below the cliffside that you have to use to jump up there. you can reach them from ellac river cave grace, they're near the elder's hovel
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>>483605493
Nta but he's right rannifag, her order is the same or non canon per miquella's dialog.
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>>483605559
Why?
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>trailer messmer
generic sinister bad guy voice
>release messmer
can hear the weariness and despair from his unending duty, actually reflects his emotions

i swear you guys are either all children or have no concept of anything artistic
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>>483605562
he's right though, das1 is a shit game only highly regarded because of being babby's first souls game
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>>483605256
True, it's fun to actually having switch some stuff of your usual setup around according to boss honestly, they achieved this. But fingerprint shield is way too boring you just don't have to think at all.
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>>483605549
I know, but my autistic post was long enough and I didn't feel like pointing out that
>taker's flames being nerfed from a knockdown to a heavy stagger
and
>boss AI ignoring summons
are targeted nerfs by FromSoft to prevent this problem, which just made casuals have a worse time
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>>483605186
Come, Lord of the old order. Let us go together! ;3
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>>483603852
What build did he use?
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>>483605716
why not?
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>>483605352
>Haligtree? Left to Rot.
>Malenia's questline? Lol.
I wonder what the fuck was that tweet the guy who played it early was for? "I hope you have Malenia alive" and nothing changes?
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>>483605742
my first "souls game" was tenchu
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>>483605652
damage doesnt matter if you dont get hit
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>>483605524
>Goldmask
Goldmask was absolutely not right.
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Imagine being Miquellas bride
>Dressed in a gown of pure white and unalloyed gold
>Light as air, and softer than any fabric
>The white veil covering your face as ytou walk down the aile
>You can barely make out Miquella waiting for you at the end
>Your heart pounding in your chest, not only because youre about to be bonded for eternity with another, but youre about to be wed to one of the most beloved demi-gods in all the land
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>>483605746
the bottom line is you can't force people to learn the game without something to hard filter them e.g. genichiro; instead they took the approach that it's okay to not learn the game if you don't want to which was a resounding success
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>>483605559
Hes unironically one the few fair, non-anime tier spaz's in the DLC. maybe your just shit?
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>>483595623
Cute!
>>483604965
>>483605687
Looking lovely lads, keep it up!
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>>483605352
the chances of a second dlc are probably zero right? They dont seem like the type of company to stick to supporting a game for long
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Are group passwords bugged in the dlc areas or something? For some reason I haven't seen a single bloodstain or message left by erg.
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goldmask never said a single word, how can he be ''right''
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>>483605653
and you are pro ds2 too, you are authentic and genuine. no one has ever had these kinds of opinions before
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>>483605493
Rannifag meltie
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>>483605882
very cute. write more.
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>>483601678
impaling thrust
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>>483605789
Great move set, good health bar, incredible presentation.
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>>483605882
I will not imagine that because it will not be happening. L M A O.
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>>483605857
a true but useless statement
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>>483605950
silence is golden
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>>483605950
He is clearly righthanded.
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>>483605882
leda imagines this every day
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Putrecent knight was a jobber and I beat him 1st try
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>>483605742
I hated how oversaturated the colours were and how janky and shitty the movement and controls were.
It hasnt aged very well.
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>>483606051
kek
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>usable on hand-to-hand weapons
Is there any hand-to-hand weapon OTHER than Dryleaf?
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>>483605950
actions speak louder than words
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>>483604470
>look great like other smithscripts
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>>483605353
>Except the dlc shows this with ymir and rellanas moons

Are you retarded? It tells us the opposite. That the moons are a bigger space body than the Greater Will’s, lol.

Ymir’s lore is undone by their decision to throw in Rellana’s twin moons lol.

The moons are their own thing. You only have MiyaZaki to blame for this blunder. It is clear that the GW is just some spook.

If he actually wanted to tell us that this is not the case, he wouldn’t have thrown in a double moon spell, and he would have instead given us a different 72 int spell.

But he didn’t. For some reason he thinks the moon is bigger, costs more, and is a more important celestial body. Either this is because he is biased, or he knows lore we don’t.

So which is it?
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>>483605687
>>483605538
found it, thanks guys
>there's nothing here
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>>483606113
dryleaf kicks
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Wait.. WHAT the FUCK, why cant we make our OWN mending rune?! are we too retarded?!?!?
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>>483605950
he communicate just like the two fingers, using light hieroglyphs or whatever
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>>483606149
all he did was stand there doing bloodborne gestures
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>>483605710
No it isn't.
Is this another situation like Ranni's dialogue at the end of her quest where people misunderstood the sentence to claim she wanted to make everyone go emotionless
>>483605968
Kill yourself. Either make good posts or just kill yourself.
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>>483605810
>13 is now equal to 18
lol lmao
guess the streamers and /vg/ shitters won
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>>483606209
you need to have a personality for that
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>>483606209
i know i am
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>>483605928
souls games usually got two dlcs
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>>483606205
Where's that?
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I'm planning my first strength build for the DLC. I'm just gonna respec one of my 9 level 150's at the gate.
I'll be going Claw Talisman and 2 Headed Green Turtle Talisman. I want to use the Black Steel Greathammer and have a greatshield, but swap to powerstanced big weapons when I don't need the shield.

Any ideas what I can run for the last two talisman slots and what my second big weapon should be?
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>>483606334
ganksquad fight
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>>483606180
>moons cost more than nebulas
Yeah I’m thinking Miyazaki is biased
>Ymir is weaker than his students
Yeah I’m thinking Miyazaki is biased
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>>483605950
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>>483605928
It took them 2 years to get this, im sure this is it for ER.
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>>483601324
>>483601956
made a video with the animation mod, it looks alright, I agree on the silliness of the walk animation, kek.
https://streamable.com/ekcgja
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So does Miquella
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>>483596881
Skadoo?
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>>483606013
Dont remind me
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>>483605767
NO I WILL NOT BE THE LORD OF THE OLD ORDER
I WILL NOT GO WITH RANNI
I WILL.ENSURE SHES CONSUMED WITHIN THE FLAMES I WILL MAKE SURE PERSONALLY THAT HER SOUL IS MELTED INTO THE FLAMES BECOMING NOTHING
I WILL SEE HER DOLL FORM SLOWLY OOZE AMD MELT
I WILL SEE THE PANIC IN HER GHOST FACE AT THE REALIZATION OF WHATS HAPPENING TO HER I WILL MAKE SURE HER RETARDED PLAN MEANT NOTHING IN THE END
HER VISIONS AND DREAMS OF THE MOON WILL BE BURNT AWAY BY YELLOW FIRE
THE COLDNESS OF SPACE REPLACED BY THE HEAT OF THE FLAME
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Is there even a single new weapon in the entire DLC that can reach A scaling in INT?
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>>483606264
Yeah you're 40-60% stronger now throughout 90% of the DLC. They really downplayed how massive the nerf is in the patch notes.
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>>483606369
phys def and rotten wing sword
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>>483606246
No he didn't he created the greatest rune the world has ever known and solved the main problem of the golden order, perfecting it so no mentally ill tranny faggot incest gods could ever fuck things up again.
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>>483606417
>tranny gooner mod
>listening to vtubers in the background
just fucking kill yourself already
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>>483601894
Nvm he wasn't that scary. A lot of scary flashy moves, but mechanically pretty straightforward.
Probably best boss so far.
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Radahn is just Bowser and Miquella is Peach. Design is even the same
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>>483606481
the staves but they're still worse than the other options from the basegame
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>>483606550
So mad, bud.
Lighten up.
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>>483605326
Considering that the "feeble lord" whose spine Nanaya cradles and Midra himself are both failed lords, I imagine you have to endure an unimaginable amount of suffering to actually manifest the flame of frenzy in the material plane successfully. The flame of the feeble lord is fading. It took the collective misery of the entombed merchants to manifest the flame. Midra had to be damned, subjected to an execution that's actually just perpetual torture, and left alive to suffer, and he still failed to truly become the Lord of Frenzied Flame. I guess he just didn't suffer enough and shot his load at 99% suffering.
Or you could just be the player character, I guess.

>>483605910
I have no problem with the way they designed Elden Ring to be accessible. My only criticism is that the players this decision enables to beat the game lack the self-awareness to realize that they're possibly at fault as soon as they encounter any actual adversity. The games have been about overcoming adversity since forever.
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>>483605869
Seethe. Marika and ranni are evil and two sides of the same coin. Goldmask has the only answer. Marika is a proven failure. Ranni is retarded.
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>The charm has fallen. Billions must die.
What the fuck was her problem?
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>>483605586
>Got a spot?
You can't miss her, she's near at the 7th floor grace
Hornsent has a dialogue when you reload the area and then he leaves
Thilloier's cute and valid
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>>483606652
she wanted miquellas dick
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>>483606652
Years of simping but no Miqqy dicking.
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>>483606628
Too many skibidi fragments, you ruined the fight for yourself.
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Did they test the Radahn fight? Honest question.
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>"JUST GRAB SCADUTREE FRAGMENTS BRO, THAT WILL HELP YOU SURVIVE THE 20 HIT COMBO THATS DESIGNED TO ROLL CATCH YOU! THE DLC ISNT BAD"
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>>483605352
The DLC makes a point that miquella abandons shit, especially shit that he can't fix. he's an absolute control freak with a savior complex.

>st. Trina? Who?
She has an entire sidequest where miquella abandoned her and imprisoned her 5 billion miles underground.
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>>483606550
seconding this post
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>>483606652
fujoshis are crazy but shotacon fujoshis are on some other shit
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I NEED PICTURES
PICTURES OF MIQUELLA ACTING LIKE A SHAMELESS TART TO BEWITCH OTHERS
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>>483606717
Got'cha, thank you! But does he leave for good until the Leda fight or?
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>>483606558
If you had more than 9 skadoos you didn't beat him.
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>>483606652
critical dick deficiency
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>Radahn was proud of his red hair because of its heroic implications
I love when someone is this kind! Proud of his father because he betrayed his mother and threw the wedding fit to the thrash! Save him, Miquella! Turn into a horse!
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>>483606613
This isn't very fair...
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>>483605832
ayame my beloved
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>>483606780
>>483606794
Smells like bitch in here
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>>483606550
thirding this post
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Imagine actually thinking the cost of sorceries is somehow proof that moon girl power is better than God Almighty
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>>483606780
Use a shield retard
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>>483606630
in the age of echo chambers and western/american culture that claims the only thing that actually matters is the inside of your mind self-awareness is at a low point
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>>483606180
Will you stop with this line of argument?
Gameplay and story segregation is a thing and it applies here.
Also the celestial bodies and the study of them don't necessarily relate to the Great Will either.
You're conflating two different things.
The "moon" isn't just a thing in the sky in ER, it's very clearly an outer god or some other being similar to the GW, the rot god, the frenzy flame and so forth. The study of the stars and the power they grant is an entirely separate thing.
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>>483606896
Needs rimming?! right away my queen.
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>>483606256
Tell me rannifag, how can miquella when killing you, calling you the lord of the old order mean anything BUT ranni's ending being non canon? How can messmer's certainty his mother sent you and refusing to accept you as elden lord mean anything but tarnished is led by marika personally or by her grace? How can any of this dialog mean anything but a BTFO to rannifags
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>>483606780
Yeah they had Ongbal playtest for them
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>>483606780
Fromsoft says every boss was beaten by Miyazaki. I would really love to actually see him do it.
>>483606941
Some of the fights are badly designed and not fun.
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>>483606980
>just cheese the boss
uhh no
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>>483606780
block

>>483606896
some of the new spells are pretty cool and situationally useful
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What caused the Rune to break? I was just riding around on Torrent....did I fuck something up? What does this mean???
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>Use the CARIAN shield that has INT REQUIREMENT and does MAGIC DAMAGE
>Infuse it for MAGIC, so it gets better scaling from INT, SINCE IT'S A MAGIC FUCKING WEAPON
>It gets B scaling at best with Magic, C with Cold
It gets A STR in Heavy and A Arcane in Occult.
Why.

It's a Carian magical shield. It has INT requirement.
Why can't it even reach A INT with Magic infusion?
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>>483606912
ye, im not joking either, she uses curved sword moveset before it existed, and its where backstabs come from. and the inspiration for sekiro lets be honest, it even has the grappling hook
2 even had coop
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>>483607015
>The "moon" isn't just a thing in the sky in ER, it's very clearly an outer god or some other being similar to the GW, the rot god, the frenzy flame and so forth
there is no proof that GW is an outer god or that moon is one
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>>483606891
Its almost like radahn is a warmonger or something
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>>483607140
He threw it away. Just like Ranni's.
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>>483607079
>shield
>cheese
really? is this where we're at? really?
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why don't we talk about the true and morally correct ending?
any thing living = shit
living beings deserve eternal pain, horror and suffering
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>>483607140
You're fine. Just go talk to everyone who was mind-controlled by Miquella. He broke it himself.
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>>483607071
>Fromsoft says every boss was beaten by Miyazaki
They need to release his build and the number of attempts.
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>>483606896
I love images of ranni where the ghost betrays her true feelings
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>>483606209
Too much effort. I mean, have you seen what both the poopoo eater and the 500 IQ pointing man had to go through?
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>>483607140
You explored too far woopsies haha, enjoy missing about one or two lines of dialog if you haven't been up to date on your npc quests haha
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>>483607150
the letters don't even fuckin matter, just look at the numbers. the actual scaling is 0-255 iirc, and it depends on the base damage as well.
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>>483607201
always has been, eldenshitter
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>>483607191
Miqqy wishes he had abs like those.
uoh baby fat.
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>Shields are cheesing
I hate newfag zoomers
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the cat build
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>>483607035
Because the DLC doesn't actually recognize which ending you took or even if you finish the game. I haven't burned the tree in NG+ and Miquella STILL calls me that on grabbing me. Messmer still has the same dialogue.
There is NO variation to these things whatsoever. It literally
>Assumes you've finished the game regardless of the game status
>Assumes you took the basic ending no matter which you took
Heck. Miquella doesn't react if you're touched by the frenzy flame or burned the Erdtree with it.
There is NO variation. It's not an argument.
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so where are Miquellas two fingers? Ranni says her Malenia and Miquella are empyrean and have their own fingers (frankly so do the omen twins I was there about an hour ago for more hp)
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>>483607079
If you're not level 1 with level 1 skibidi you're cheesing the game.
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>>483607015
>Gameplay and story segregation is a thing and it applies here.

No it doesn’t. They made Ymir a pathetic encounter for the same reason they had Gideon be a pathetic encounter.

Gideon is under the likes of Marika, and Rennala by association, due to the fact that she could equal Marika’s alter-ego.

Ymir is under the likes of both Rellana as well as Rennala. They wouldn’t have had given him a pathetic boss fight if not.

That’s just how it is.
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>>483606835
Nooooo you don't get it, he's not a shota he's a 100 years old demigod, he just looks like a child!
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>>483607317
i used shields in every single souls game starting in 2009
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>>483607265
>Carian Sorcery Sword can cast spells
>C scaling in INT at +25
>Can't change Ash of War from Impaling Thrust even though it's not a Somber weapon
>No Sorcery scaling so all spells cast with it do zero damage
I'm mad.
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>>483606417
>having fun with trying things out and modding
>having fun watching vtubers in the meantime
just fucking keep yourself safe and keep having fun anon, i hope you're having a wonderful one

Anyways, I wish I wasn't totally talentless when it comes to modelling and modding because I can clearly see so much room for improvement, I would genuinely like to sit down and make those two mods work by simply adjusting things like clipping as well as some of the animations. I have a weird feeling that it's somehow impossible to move the whole arms closer to the body. Either way, the character model itself is amazing, that goes without question
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kek
>tfw no flowerussy
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>>483607176
he learned...he learned gravity magic for his horse...its called leonard btw it's in the game files...!!!!! aieee!! kind radahn!!! the strongest and kindest of the shattering!!!
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>people using greatshields on radahn
I just do light roll and spam antspur rapier, bro got fucked by scarlet rot once so I'll make it happen again
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>>483607204
Yawn shutup degenerate shit slurper, continue being my spirit slave for all eternity.
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>>483607241
>Beats boss once out of 5000 attempts after doing some cheese bullshit
>"はい。この上司は非常にバランスが取れています。それを出荷。"
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We all agree that From Slopware slopped the ball, right?
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>>483607397
you only knew the ebin memes until ER dropped
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You know for all the garbage the DLC has, making all of the NPC questlines converge in an NPC vs NPC gangbang with differing outcomes depending on what you did for the quests is a really cool concept.
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>>483607435
>toes clipping
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>>483607335
shields are fine

guard counters are fine

shieldpoking is and has always been for faggots
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>>483607360
>where are Miquellas two fingers
On the other side of the gate of divinity
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>>483607458
Reached the second phase yet?
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>>483607164
Yes there is because the GW acts in the same way as the other outer gods of the setting. Further what the DLC DOES show is that the GW's agents came to earth through the stars. Not that we didn't know that already from EB but now we got Metyr as well.
Same way the other outer gods are not of this earth/Lands Between
They're all foreign entities.
The only NATURAL divinities of the world is arguably death/GEQ and Placidusax.
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Objectively speaking learning more about a character we know little about is better than getting back a character we know everything about. So no matter how you look at it, Godwyn was always a better choice for the last boss than Radahn.

Radahn doesn't even fucking talk, he's barely more conscious than he was back in Caelid
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>>483607458
a medium shield is fine, he really does not do that much stamina damage except on a few specific attacks
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>>483606780
I'm kinda interested to know if any of the devs actually managed to beat him without cheesing or using spirit ash.
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>>483607435
Bros...how do I get good at 3D...
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>>483607479
The DLC has high highs and low lows. It truly is Elden Ring 2.
>>483607512
The NPCs talking is very cool. Some of the things they got it right.
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>Delayed attack
>Delayed attack
>Delayed attack
>AoE attack
>AoE attack
>AoE attack
>Barely have enough time to get one hit in with a fast dex weapon before another wombo combo starts
Boy howdy has the boss quality gone downhill since DS3.
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>>483607516
Think shes meant to be in water
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>>483607414
Why are you mad? You got TWO moons this expansion. Oh, wait, I forgot… your moon had to be stolen for that to happen, along with your mom’s.

Nevermind, Carians lost this expac. They are just a silly joke faction now. “Lol red head lover gurls XD”.

Dumb Ranni poster. When will you learn that Miyazaki hates you.
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>>483607497
okay buddy construct more imaginary narratives in your mind why don't you
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new echo night is coming out
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>>483607479
Yeah I'm pretty sad they caved in and made the DLC easier just because a bunch of third world shitters were crying about the difficulty
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>>483606881
>does he leave for good
I dunno, I haven't reached it yet. What I can tell you is that I told Leda to kill him and after Mesmer she says that now he's no threat due to mesmer being dead
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>summon Thioller for Radahn
>he just stands still and doesn't move
>doesn't enter the fog gate either
>persists this way after relaunching the game
Uh
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>>483598681
I really hope Sekiro 2 won't be a thing because Sekiro was by far my least liked souls game
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>>483607523
this is true
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>>483607335
you don't understand
the people calling everything cheese or cheating or easy mode are the ones still stuck on bosses while they watch everyone else progress through the game, they need some kind of justification to explain away their own shortcomings so they lie to themselves and say they're the only ones playing the game the right way and everybody else is doing it wrong
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>>483607573
Anon the GEQ's seal is literally metyr's face, and placidusax outright has an elden ring in his city.
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>>483607612
They let their Berserk fanboyism run wild, the only hype Radahn has lies in the fact that hes the devs' Guts insert for the game.

If you dont care about it then its shit.
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Ranni is a DORK
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>>483598681
They are annoying but not as annoying as the divine beast niggers. Literally nothing I do staggers them even carian sovereingty does nothing to them.
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>>483607676
it should look like water then
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>>483606794
Imagine being this far in the game and still being mad at the game for roll catching instead of mad at yourself for panic rolling
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>>483607671
>No multiple endings where you can take up Miquellas offer and join him
They really peaked in Bloodborne. Lets be honest.
>>483607778
Had this too. He only "sometimes" follows me through the fog gate. Only way to consistant get him to move his ass if he gets hit by an AOE.
I just like to imagine this is intentional and hes asleep while standing like a horse.
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>>483607573
The GW created the world retardbro, you're calling God an alien
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So what can we figure out about Melina from what we know about Messmer? It's pretty much confirmed they are siblings and both children of Marika, who also both happen to have "a vision of fire", and kindling inside of them. Is that why both their left eye is closed? Messmer has a fake eye which I don't think Melina has? She also doesn't have an evil snake parasite, but her purple eye in the frenzied flame ending implies she's not just related to fire and kindling
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>>483607573
I would agree before but I was convinced otherwise by Hyetta+Ymir+elden ring being present in Farum Azula+jap wording autismo.
Btw the other outer gods are not associated with the stars
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>>483607671
>delayed attack
It's a window for you to attack instead of staring at the boss like a retard.
>fast dex weapon
Why do retards think weapon speed is based on stat scaling and not weapon class?
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>>483607015
>The "moon" isn't just a thing in the sky in ER, it's very clearly an outer god or some other being similar to the GW, the rot god, the frenzy flame and so forth. The study of the stars and the power they grant is an entirely separate thing.
Okay so you admit that Ymir is wrong and the moon is better. Cool. Magic is still female. Only a female finger alien could channel the likes of bigger spells than that. Bawww. Ymir is a lower in comparison. Girl boss game. Only girls get access to the biggest spells, including bosses. Only Metyr gets access to shit like ‘Lasting Microcosm’ LMAO.

Just admit this lore got shat on my pro-females.
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>>483607612
Are you fucking retarded? We know more about godwyn than most demigods in the game, and radahn is literally the least known of any major character
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>>483598681
I think you are mixing fire knight and the horned warriors.

The fire guy are alright

The horned are pure unfun cancer to fight.
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>>483607457
Leonard might get pointed out too much by redditors, but Radahn must have at least been charismatic enough to appear kind. He's respected enough for his men to still remain in his army despite his rotted state and continue fighting the rot. Festivals are held in his honor.
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>>483607918
NTA, and I don't really know or care what you guys are arguing about, but any god that creates a world is an alien to that world by definition.
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>>483607557
I just beat him for the second time, skipped meteor dive because he got staggered
>>483607614
on my main I had a sacred small shield just in case I know I couldn't get out of the slow holy nuke in time due to being caught sipping, blocks most of the damage
tried vow of indomitable on the huge meteor attack, it seems to work but the timing is so tight
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>>483607164
If the moon isn’t an outer god or some other intelligence, then the justification for it being higher in requirement than the likes of nebulas (Comet Azur) is even more fucking retarded.

You’re eating yourself here. It is clear that there is something more to the moon.
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>>483607704
Nigger you think a mechanic that allows you to not engage with the boss's actions is not cheesing it. You are a casualtroon normalfaggot whose entry to the series was this game.
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>>483608034
We know everything there is to know about Radahn, he fights for the golden order, he holds the stars in stasis and that's pretty much all there is to his character

DLC brought him back and made him the same mindless monster, what a fucking waste
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>>483598681
>infinite poise
You can stunlock them with a greatsword
>zero recovery frames
Skill issue
>only way to deal with them is to tank their fireballs
Skill issue
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>>483607778
He was like that for me as well, one anon said to bait Radahn to attack you near the fog gate and he will aggro him.
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>>483607035
I'm a marikachad, but I can explain, the tarnished are meant to be marika's champions, they were vreated by her and resurrected by her, this is something that's widely known enough for melina to directly quote marika creating them and telling them of their fate where one of them becomes elden lord. Melina also quotes her telling her kids to be gods or lords if they want to. Messmer is going off of that assumption. Miquella calling you lord of the old order is also based on marika's declaration to the tarnished, and your people's clearly stated goal. They wouldn't know of ranni's plans, so they'd assume your goal is to be the elden lord of marika, and thus the old age. It's really simple if you actually pay attention to the game.
To disprove what the other anon said, ranni being helped by marika through her guiding the tarnished along her quest doesn't mean their order or ages are identical at all, it just means marika approves of what ranni wants, while she doesn't approve of miquella or frenzy flame. She gets the marika seal of quality sticker essentially. Things are pretty simple if you actually read the dialog or how in the dlc every other npc tells you to BECOME elden lord showing you aren't yet. You're just the tarnished with the highest capability for it.
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>>483607918
Ymir's schizo babble is not a legitimit interpretation or theory of the world
It's the schizobabble of a mind broken parent trying to co-opt motherly energies of an intergalactic alien so he can "give life" to his dead kid
That's who you're taking as your gospel.
Heck the fact he exonerates Miquella and blames Marika solely should indicate to you he's bitter at everything due to his own inability to "give life"
The damn dialogue is about more than the lore blurbs. It builds a character
>>483607808
Post pics, I did not see it. And Placidusax did not have an elden ring that's always been a misunderstanding. Even the elden lord thing is a mistranslation
>>483607948
No but they're all alien to the earth. Also the celestial bodies are not all related to the GW.
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>>483598681
>infinite poise
>guard breaks one using Bear Claws +10
I think you're just a shitter anon
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>>483606628
Holy fuck. A true Drake Warrior.

>>483606882
Ha, I had exactly 9. I BEAT THE GAME.
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>>483602576
>grinding
Dude, it's an RPG where one of the main points of the game is to explore, so... explore. If you don't want to explore then unironically get good
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>>483598681
leonine misbegotten moment
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>>483607357
And he doesn't react because those options aren't canon. Only an ending where marika is around, like goldmask, can be canon. If the dlc doesn't mention these endings or reference them, but clearly references one, that ending tales precedent and is canon. Is it this hard for you to understand?
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>>483607978
>It's a window for you to attack instead of staring at the boss like a retard.
It's a window for the boss to punish you for daring to enter an animation.
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>>483608338
>Ha, I had exactly 9. I BEAT THE GAME.
Congratulations, tarnished champion!
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>>483608309
>And Placidusax did not have an elden ring that's always been a misunderstanding
You can literally see it in Farum Azula you dolt
He was the lord of Elden in an age long past
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>>483607979
No, I don't, because the moon is not "better". Again, the stats required to cast spells are LITERALLY IRRELEVANT to analyzing the lore and story of this game. LITERALLY IRRELEVANT.
It's a gameplay stat. It has no impact on the lore of the spell.
But yes Ymir's wrong about the GW ordering everything. He's also wrong to solely blame Marika for the issues plaguing the world, as well as he's wrong about when exactly the GW stopped speaking to the Fingers, and he's wrong to blame Metyr, alien as she is, for the situation. He's taken a personal vendetta against every motherly figure in the order because he's butthurt he can't give life.
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>>483607035
You can't kill Ranni so her ending is canon and they're saving her for Elden Ring 2.
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>>483598681
Fuck parryslop, I hope Elden Ring 2 removes the parry mechanic.
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>>483608640
>No, I don't, because the moon is not "better"

Yes it is. There is literally no other justification for why it has higher requirements than a fucking deep space nebula beam.

Girl boss game. Moons favor women. Go complain to Miyazaki or something.
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>>483599306
with today's patch you have been buffed
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>>483608634
He was a lord, not an "elden" lord as in a member of the Ring's order.
The ring is solely a thing of the Golden Order Marika created. It's literally the physical manifestation of the laws of the world as Marika ordained it. Hence why removing the death rune from it meant the gods could not be killed.
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>>483605559
He's the only dragon fight in the game other than Placi that is actually fun
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>>483608596
If you're using a colossal weapon maybe. 90% of the time when I notice a delayed attack (even one in the middle of a combo) I try to punish it when the boss does it again and it works.
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>>483608640
>Again, the stats required to cast spells are LITERALLY IRRELEVANT
No they aren’t. The intellect and faith are very important things.
>>483608852
Still wrong. The Elden Beast became the Elden Ring. It predates Marika.
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>great moveset

>It has an alternative followup to it's main wingclaw attack, a bite, which has virtually the same tell but different timing so you WILL get hit.
>After Downward charge claw smash it can instantly jump far away and do long range flamebreath, robbing your of an earned punish. Bad design.
>Cooldown between long attack chains can be virtually zero, after which you MAY get a tiny window to get a SINGLE hit in.
>Actually forget about that too because after you hit it once it will punish YOU by doing a fast swipe or bite that comes out faster than the recovery of anything slower than an R1.
>Mouth hitbox is too large, exaggerated, like prenerf base game Radhan's, I get hit when it fell like it shouldn't.
>visual clarity is awful because FromSoft camera but it's specially horrendous when it's doing mouth combos. It's model literally disappears because of culling and I have to memorize (guess) what it's doing.

I could go on but I've made my point.
>inb4 "skill issue hurr durr I beat it ezpz"
Fuck you, you know I'm right. It's gonna get nerfed exactly in the way I predict it will.
>hitboxes
>aggression.
damage is fine, most things individually are fine. It's macro is fucked up. FromS meme'd themselves trying to one-up Midir and made an overtuned mess and forgot what made Midir great. And that was clear telegraphs and punish windows.
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>>483608852
He is literally called the Elden Lord, it's not just ymir but hyetta, someone completely different, who says the GW created everything
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>>483609067
Why do you lie? You would need an obscenely fast weapon to do that.
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>>483608852
Anon, you can see the original Elden Ring, which looks different form Marika’s.
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>>483608904
The regular dragon fights are alright. The ancient dragons are pure shit though.
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>>483605186
You need a gf.
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>>483608852
Marika removed death from the order, it follows that elden ring existed before that
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>The greater will created life then fucked off
Wow it's just like here.
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>>483597082
>b-but they need to use this fossilized engine because modders know all about it!
Fucking hate that Bethesda gets away with delivering a slop game on the promise that fans will fix everything and make it worth playing.
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>>483609325
you really can't blame Vyke...
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also
>heh
>I must rid the world of everything
>should I add you to the list
why do people like her again and whats wrong with the frenzied flame ending when she thinks the same thing?
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<-- (took me ages to find in my clusterfuck meme folders)
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>>483609234
>Why do you lie?
Have you tried it?
>You would need an obscenely fast weapon
I used Darkmoon Greatsword to beat almost all the DLC bosses and it worked.
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The Greater Will created all life, and said “women are better than men”

This is canon
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>>483609486
Paul never said that
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I've only tried this guy twice and already I can tell he sucks
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>>483609684
>I've only tried this guy twice and already I can tell he sucks
This is the gayest sounding post I’ve ever had the pleasure of coming across, thanks
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>>483608830
>Yes it is. There is literally no other justification for why it has higher requirements than a fucking deep space nebula beam.
Yes there is. Because From determined for game balancing reasons it should.
By the way, Land of Shadow has more FTH requirements than Elden stars, Light of Miquella has more FTH requirements than anything despite it not being the only divine sourced spell, Fortissax's lightning spear needs more FTH than Placidusax's ruin (so does Lansseax's glaive) despite the fact Placidusax rules over both. Also knight's lightning spear, a basic bitch yellow lightning spell, costs the same as said Placidusax's ruin.
Should I keep going? Lets look at sorceries
The literal founding glintstone sorcery has the same INT requirements as comet, stars of ruin one of the three great spells by the three great wizards costs the less than Loretta's mastery (as good as Loretta might be, she was just a mage Albinauric). And while on the subject of the microcosms, spells that cost more include exploding ghostflame, Loretta's mastery again, Crystal torrent, comet (again), and blades of stone, which by the way was developed by Gaius who again, good as he was at gravity magic, was not a better mage than Lusat. And also by your logic Gaius's magic is stronger than whatever you think the microcosm is
Are we done here? Should I do ARC too just in case?
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>Carian Soverignity
>20str/40dex/14int
>full charge with follow up deals close to 5k damage
>hyperarmor
This will probably get nerfed after rolling sparks.
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Girlboss guy is a retard.
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>>483609831
>Yes there is. Because From determined for game balancing reasons it should.
>balance
> b a l a n c e he says
LOL
The moon spells are actual garbage, and boss killers (true meme spells) like damn Comet fucking Azur should have been 80 int you fuckface
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>tried using a hammer
>it's 5 times easier to play because it staggers boss left and right
wow, what the fuck were blunt weapons always this good?
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>>483609180
Hyetta is referring to the Ring and its order not the Lands Between themselves
We KNOW that the GW is not of this earth because it send the EB to it.
GW is an outer god like the others. It's just the one that has most power of the Lands Between.
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>>483609884
I hope they don't nerf it too soon, it's literally the only good INT stuff I've found in the DLC so far
>5k damage
Bro your scadutree blessings?
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>>483609910
He’s not wrong though. This entire world is dominated by women, as women are the prime movers and shakers, by far. Of the men, they are relatively lacking. The very Elden Lord ritual is they of marriage to a supreme feminine being.

Of the Carians, only the princesses are afforded notice by the moons, which are the biggest spells in the game.

The biggest chad in the game? Bested by a woman, who is 1/10 his size. This is an incredibly feminist setting. And women just dominate.

I don’t know why this pisses you off. It is annoying, but you just have to deal with it.
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>>483610007
So wait, the moon spells after all? I thought the argument was that the moon spells were the strongest best ever and this was a girl boss game due to this?
You faggots can't keep the argument straight.
Also I don't think they're the best spells. The INT requirement is literally not the best indicator of spell strength and in fact a high stat requirement usually hurts spells since it fucks your builds up in terms of flexibility of point allocation. I'm aware of this.
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TELL ME ABOUT BAYLE
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So, I've heard anons saying that picrelated has higher hyperarmor on bigger weapons, but I don't really see it. I've been testing it on the flame knight outside of the 7th floor grace and he seems to break my hyperarmor just as easily no matter what weapon type I put it on. Do I need to use some specific weapon with it or what?
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>STOP TRYING TO HAVE FUN
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>>483610051
>shota messmer
hide him from Leda
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>>483610527
>The INT requirement is literally not the best indicator of spell strength
Yes it is. It’s been this way since the first Souls. At best, you can argue that Comet Azur is bigger and more powerful than a given moon due to coating three slots, as three slot spells like Scarlet Aoenia can take out entire regions, but even then, the moon spells are an effective counter to that of Comet Azur, as though they were made specifically for that purpose; to btfo the big ass beam.

Here’s video proof:
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNxBBzGW6F0
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>>483611215
The moon absorbs 99% of spells/magic shit
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>>483610267
7 at the time.
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>>483611401
Yeah, so she btfo Azur and Lusat in gurl boss fashion.

Like this:
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wjpRW0kNtM4&pp=ygUbU2FpbG9yIG1vb24gdnMgZG9vbSBwaGFudG9t

It’s how she dominated a male dominated academy. Moon gurl goddess.
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>>483611215
No it isn't. It's a good counter to comet Azur but it's one fo the worst spells to use outside of that due to long cast animation and terrible hyperarmor. And in PVE it's pure shit.
And besides, that's not the point of the argument. This entire fucking argument has hinged on
>Microcosm has less int requirement than the moon spells, so the moon spells are LORE WISE a stronger form of magic and so that means MUH GIRLBOSS GAME
And as demonstrated already, the stat requirement for a spell has NO LORE IMPLICATIONS WHATSOEVER. It is literally irrelevant. Otherwise the three sorcery spells developed by the three great sorcerers would be the highest int requirement ones at the very least. Loretta's mastery certainly wouldn't have the requirements it does. And on the FTH side Plaxidusax's ruin would cost at the very least 65 FTH if not more. Elden Stars would have to be the highest FTh requirement, certainly higher than Land of Shadow.
And so forth.
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>>483609074
beat it. Still think it sucks
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>>483611401
The moon in Rennala’s fight is literally the only boss ability in the game that Thop’s Barrier doesn’t work against.

Mechanically, her supremacy is apparent.
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>>483611857
Anon you really need to get some pussy
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>>483612237
Anon, you’re talking to a troll-slash-shitposter who can both enjoy and hate both sides. I don’t think you realize just how nuanced the appreciation for these games can be. You hate and love it, like a bloody faerie.
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>>483612023
>No it isn't
Yes it is. There’s a reason Logan’s Soul Spear costs so much. It rivals Gwyn’s own lightning. He has matched the gods.
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I killed Bayle without summoning igon. I got all his stuff, but was there more to it? Did I fuck up his quest by not having him being present for the kill?
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>>483613006
We're not discussing Dark Souls. We're discussing Elden Ring.
Please adress the discrepancies I already pointed out or just admit you're wrong.
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>>483613395
nope. he dies regardless because this game is retarded. you just missed out on some dialogue which is admittedly worth summoning for.
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>>483613609
I did summon him once and yeah it was kino. But it made the fight too easy so I let it kill me and did it solo later
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90% of newly added spells/incants are too slow to work on bosses
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>>483614856
bro your radagon icon?
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Do I need to finish all the NPC quests before I fight Mesmer?
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>>483610741
Already cleared Rellana's Castle. Where did you get this?
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>>483615565
Nta but even with that they are outclassed by base game spells/incants.
Exceptions exist, yes, like Impenetrable Thorns.
But why use the others when you have things like Night Comet and Comet?
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>>483614856
>newly added
You mean all of them. I've done all the bosses melee only, the only spell I use against bosses is Ranni's moon for the debuff.
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elden ring's dragon forms should work like this, not a retarded anthro furry dragon.
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>>483616032
>Impenetrable Thorns
Until it gets nerfed, then it`s going to be garbage like all other spells
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>>483617250
that's a wyvern
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>>483617412
Nta but that doesn`t make any difference to my dick.
Wyvern? Dragon? Whatever, sex.
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>>483607278
>Fia fucked godwin to get his fishy gummies inside her
>channeled into him the power of the souls of all the warriors she also slept with
>gives birth to mending rune of death
>Dungman has (You) fist his ass full of seedbed curses
>channels the power of the souls of all those that got their poopoo ate
>creates mending rune of poopoo, presumably having given birth to it
makes sense to me
but how did goldman do it?
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>>483617412
yeah and elden ring calls clear wyverns dragons.
>flying dragon agheel
>decaying dragon ekzykes
etc etc
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>>483617250
It's always been like that in From games. Miyazaki loves his failed dragon scalies.
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forgot pic
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>>483616032
>Night Comet and Comet?
So the best spells are the best because they bypass the game's shitty, goofy script dodge.
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>>483617809
>>483618213
humans commonly refer to drakes as dragon but the game explicitly makes the distinction between ancient dragons and drakes. You as player, an entity outside the game world know better.
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>>483618270
Comet is good because it's DPS.
But you got Night Comet right. 100% accuracy, very hard to miss a shot, and amazing DPS with Staff of Loss.
Rock Sling simply isn't included in the list even if it also trivializes the base game because it's fairly slow for DLC bosses.
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>>483601404
Yea you put it better then me in perfect world these interactions would be patched in making for even more amazign game but devs are cowards
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>>483601404
>Ranni's with you as a doll
I thought the small doll version was empty after she returns to her regular doll body
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>>483618692
stop acting like the distinction is as strict as monster hunter. they're literally referred to as dragons in their name and drop dragon hearts.
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>>483619951
>I can't read
that's all you had to say
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>>483620543
nice projection
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>>483623043
holy fucking hell you're retarded
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>>483623935
obviously there is a difference between ancient dragons and the normal dragons (which are actually wyverns but are called dragons in game), the game makes no effort to refer to them as wyverns so in the elden ring universe these wyverns are actually dragons. just like how in game of thrones the wyverns are dragons.
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>>483624327
I said drakes not wyverns, that was oa. Here you go faggot-kun
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>>483624863
yeah and drakes are just reskinned normal dragons.
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>>483625408
>normal dragons.
yep, still retarded. Ngmi, unironically.
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>>483625695
THEY'RE LITERALLY CALLED DRAGONS IN THE GAMES I KNOW THEY'RE TECHNICALLY WYVERNS I DIDNT MAKE THE GAME JESUS CHRIST
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>>483626104
>still looping, still saying wyvern when I never called them that, actually schizophrenic meltdown
damn anon, my condolences, I should've known better. I'll leave you alone now.



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