>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg>Previous>>484099416
how it feels to summon to DLC bosses:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNzGGiNF_B4
would /erg/ like to do a seamless coop run of the dlc later today?
can someone write some miquella smut
What's the best way to minmax the damage on Golden Crux? Is it based on total weapon AR or is it purely the faith scaling?
Stop arguing about lore, the DLC just doubled down on the fact that none of this shit matters. Character statements are unreliable. Things we see with our eyes are unreliable. The omniscient third person narration on item text is fucking unreliable. Setting-shattering locations and abilities can be casually introduced without comment or effect for the rest of the setting. Absolutely nothing matters. If you want to headcanon Melina is Malenia who is also Nepheli who has the power to bring people back to life and is originally from the Moon, then she is, because none of what would make that headcanon wrong is reliable to begin with.>But the item descriptions say->Wow bro you REALLY believe the item descriptions? Remember the Stargazer Heirloom? Remember the Carian Filigreed Crest? Remember Mohg's Remembrance?No one in the story even has to be dead because they introduce a new way to bring people back to life every five minutes. Why not do the Divinity Gate ritual to resurrect anyone? With the randomly-shown ability for characters to generate multiple body copies you wouldn't even need a vessel.
dont like any of the weapons
>>484110032why not normal coop?
>use shield to memorize the boss movesets>start rolling once I am comfortable enoughIs it me or learning a boss pattern is much harder when you are also actively rolling?
>posting it again just so people can keep shitting on you for being a retard
>>484110032I would but after being a summon for the last few days I know all you faggots are running around with the cheesiest builds possible to try and ruin bosses, and still suck.I'll just play with my friends.
>>484110098Most of the new movesets feel designed with pvp in mind.
>>484110127because it sucks and seamless is... seamless
I am begging you all for fashion that uses one of these weapons
>>484108283Ranni and Miquella are thematic opposites at every levelOne wants a world of compassion, but the only way of achieving this is by removing free will and charming the entire worldAnother wants a world of freedom, but it means being lonely and full of doubtsMiyazaki's own views greatly favour Ranni over Miquella.Likewise, one seeks to charm you, another is going to worship the ground you walk on instead, especially if you didn't fuck up and achieved "DEAR consort"
>>484109937Now that the dust has settled, it's time. Time to pick your Top 5 Waifus.>VOTE NOW ON YOUR PHONEShttps://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyAhttps://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyAhttps://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyAhttps://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyAhttps://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3q5KkyA
>>484110134aren't also actively rolling*
FROMSOFT PLEASEBUFF THE OBSIDIAN LAMINA AND ANBACH'S BLADETHANK YOU
>>484110032kys
>>484110134I don't think so, I just accept that I will die and learn by trial and error and learn the correct and most optimal dodges in the process. Just knowing when the attacks come out isn't everything since where you roll can be just as important.
How high can you upgrade your Scadutree blessings without fighting any bosses?
Now what? I'm thinking maybe some STR, but I would also need to pump some END to be able to wear heavier armor and a hammer for the maximum crusader look.
>from adds a super long range nuke with 375% incantation scaling that shits out firestorm of 75% scaling>sperglords on /erg/ insist its a low damage spell that doesn't tickle anything>from makes giantsflame take thee deal 325% incantation scaling>holy shit its the best nuke ever it OHKOs everything omg omg GOAT
>>484109937im so happy with all the OC we get from the dlc
Lorefags are just schrodinger's shitposters. they are both serious and trolling until you either provide a counterargument or disregard them, whereupon they become one or the other.>nothing but adhoms, huh? heh... too easy... you're welcome vaati, be sure to credit le Anonymous in your next video.>proven wrong? uh, melty? obsessed? it's just a video game, sweaty
>>484110032can i roleplay as miquella and someone be my radahn?
>>484110325It seems that my brain just can't multitask. If I don't observe while using a shield, I genuinely can't remember shit.
>>484110261fuck off erp fag
>>484110434gay
>>484110032Don't have time unfortunately wish it would be friday instead of sunday...
You guys keep saying Messmer's easy and it's very obvious that you're lying.
>>484110078Once upon a time Miquella had a little needle. Then it turned into a big haligtree. People would stroke it for the blessed dew it would bestow. One day, the blessings ran out and the haligtree shrunk back down into a needle.That's why St. Trina invented viagra. The end.
>>484110525toil awaits
>>484110386Me but instead of mimic tear I have two password summons spamming rolling spark AoW
>>484110549who the fuck is saying its easyit is hard as fuck
seamless is straight up cheating
>>484109839I was surprised that summoning for Messmer seems to be such a done thing. I know shitterfaggots summon for absolutely everything but the sheer amount of people who decided Messmer was a 'summon for now, do solo on a later playthrough' boss seems odd. He's intense out the gate but once you've got him down? Really solid bossfight with maybe like one or two moves I couldn't dodge reliably, and once I had the strat I was bullying him. One of my favorite DLC bosses.
>>484110549Messmer looks harder than he is. His moveset is incredibly fair and there's a lot of opportunities to punish him.
>>484110261>the top 5 is my top 5I'm as basic as a white t-shirt...
throw axes at people
>>484110434
>>484110086:^)>>484110450He says, while posting on /erg/https://archiveofourown.org/works/49017289/chapters/123665425
>>484109937https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5i4Y47H0GUbonefistbros, we are so fucking back
>>484110654Noice
>>484110549He is easy once you learn his moves because he doesn't pull any weird shit or have anything unusual in his moves or fight.He's just a fairly straight up fight akin to malenia.
>>484110549He's not easy, but he's a fantastic fight with no bullshit.
>>484110602miazaki condones seamless coop and has said he wouldn't be opposed to something like it in future titles
>>484110342Maybe half? You are definitely stuck at the keep because you need to kill the hippo to go any further.
bros, how do I get to the green part of the map?
>watch me do my 4 hit combo with no gaps or spaces>beware my tracking is perfect on every attack and I will cartwheel 360 degrees in place to track you if you try to use """positioning""">and I slide forward 50 feet with each attach so don't even think about outspacing me>and every move has a slightly downwards angle to catch crouching/low profile attacks>and every move has an extended vertical hitbox to catch jumping even when it looks jumpable>after I've had my turn you get to R1 me once, but no more than once or you'll activate my "you hit R1 too many times" punish move that inputreads with an instant bitchslap timed perfectly for your recovery frames into another 4 hit combo>we take our turns back and forth like this for 11 minutes and then I use by big anime laser/explosion, but my second phase is just the same shit>Remembrance of the Turn Taker, Hewn into the skibdibidi bop doop boop scatman, use to gain The Spell That Does Nothing (70 int/fth req, 200fp per cast) or the Meme Weapon (scales D str, E dex, D fth. Unique Skill: strike a long pose and get interrupted by everything)I want to know what went wrong over at fromsoft headquarters.
>putrescent horse also attacks youGenuinely didn't expect that
>>484110654does rakasha GK get poise when 1H
>>484110654This is the second one of these webms you've posted and the only reason you're winning is because you have bad internet
my god she is so beautiful...
>>484110261Surprised Marika has so many votes I thought I was the only unironic Marikafriend on here.
>>484110871yes, yes, you're a shitter, you said that a hundred times already, stop crying already
>>484110569mmmmmst trina nectar...miquella's dew....stroking his needle...
wait im unbanned? weird. did they fire the /v/ jannies?either way hello I guess.
>>484111059He's not wrong tho
>>484111118kys
>>484111091pedophilia
>>484110261>no mimic tear
>>484110342IIRC it's something silly like 17.Most bosses are skippable which means the only skibidis you can't get are the ones literally dropped by bosses/field bosses and the ~4 locked behind the sealing tree.>>484110847Hippo is optional. You can enter Shadow Keep the back way via the Church district and into the Storehouse, and then platform down to the main path and backtrack back through the keep.
How the fuck did my character eat 23 of these? There are literal rocks embedded in it. Are you supposed to just eat around them?
>>484111091Anon, that wasn't supposed to be erotica it was supposed to be a joke.
>>484111271I mean like humans eat salt which is like a rock kinda
>>484111271I'd pick those out
I found the questlines to be very dull. I was hoping they would deliver more of a coherent story such as rannis instead of the usual gobbledegook
>>484111328you just engaged
>>484111271gravel stones are dragon scales, maybe they're soft from being so fresh
>Ranni destroyed the world irrevocably by turning her demigod brother into a tumor that eats away at it bit by bit>Didnt even have to do it, other Empyrians seem to be doing whatever they want, Miquella is establishing his own order without needing to cause mass war and genocide >People will still simp for her
>>484111294
>>484111398>I was hoping they would deliver more of a coherent story>in a From gameAnon, please remember what game you're playing and who developed it.
>start modding the game so casting animations are faster, you can actually fucking now use spells in the DLC against bossesSo this is kino
>>484111398the only good storyline was igon's imo
>>484111494Which mods?Or if you modded it yourself, how did you do it? Param modifications?
why don't you simply kill radahn?
>>484111271just chug if they injure you
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>484111589Leda, the Hornsent and Ansbach are good though. Actually all of Leda's gang is good even if Moore doesn't have much going on. Freyja needed more, too.
>its a dragon
Is Skibidi level 10 good enough for Shadow Keep?
>>484110549messmer's first half is much harder than his second
>>484110078>Miquella reached out with a slender hand to grab the soft, pillowy cocoon. With his other hand he pulled up the white silk of his dress, revealing his plump, porcelain cheeks to his new consort.>I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS thought Mohg, tusks clenched in consternation.>But those thoughts began to waver when Miquella tugged on his buttock. The Empyrean's asshole was a pink and perfect dot, completely unblemished. But, teeth nipping at his lip and lushes flattering at Mohg, the blonde boy's hole began to tremble and clench with all the practiced ease of a Carian sorceress who had just finished 'paying' an entire troop of Cuckoo Knights.>I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS Mohg repeated to himself, even as his heavy, blood crusted robes shifted to part around thick, hefty OMENCOCK as it began to rise. >A dense smell of sweat filled the air as the monstrous gray member throbbed upward. The Lord of Blood could have sworn he felt his curse-filled ball sack growing heavier as his beady red eye fixed itself on the unhinged site of his sweet half-brother twitching his adorable boy hole at him.>"Brother... It looks like it's going to hurt," Miquella murmured, a dramatic whine slipping into his silken voice as his golden eyes fell on the brutal assortment of small, curling horns and gnarled lumps that lined his consort's cock. "Pleaaase be gentle..." Despite his feigned reluctance, Miquella had started working the tip of one finger into his backside. The boy hadn't even lubed up: in fact, he'd very intentionally discarded the delicate glass bottle of melted mushroom oil he'd been carrying.>Mohg could resist no longer. "Niihiiiiiiil..." he whispered, stumbling closer and wrapping a clawed hand around his deformed OMENCOCK. >The horns on it made it uncomfortable even in his own palm. He couldn't imagine how it would feel for Miquella when it was ravaging his guts.>Nevertheless, the Empyrean began to giggle, wiggling his hips in excitement.
So are they going to patch this cancerous dognigger or should I just drop this shit?
>SekiroWow, all these people trying to achieve immortality don't realize that they lose their humanity on the way and that it's an inherently self destructive goal>Elden RingNOOOOO HERES WHY MY PET ALIEN'S TRANSENDENCE OF HUMANITY WILL DEFINITELY BE THE TIME WHEN THE WORLD WILL BE SUPER FIXED FOR REAL THIS TIMEYES I KNOW IT WAS TRIED BEFORE BUT THIS TIME IT'LL WORK, THAT WASN'T TRUE GODHOODOf course this doesn't apply to my chosen ending, my choice is the real one that would fix the world forever and ever and ever and ever
>>484111651Param modifications, yesJust changing some of the spells casting IDs, flame sling using the animation for glintstone pebble is a lot more enjoyableSame with making discus of light use it
How the FUCK do I dodge Radahns meteors into the quintuple giganigga teleport + AoE in the second phase?
I wish boss movesets were less lopsided. Every boss has a handful of easy to dodge attacks with a ton of recovery which you love to see versus a 8 hit combo filled with danger that doesn't reward you with anything aside from maybe a cheeky r1 with a fast weapon (slower weapons still get hit)A more balanced moveset would feel better. I shouldn't see Radahn turning into a giant spinning Beyblade and think "Yay, I get to heal/Charged R2 him!"
Thick warlord cock going in and out of an androgynous childgod's fuckhole
>>484111727After the roaring success of the fallout tv show it was inevitable that every popular gaming IP would be up for grabs.Just wait, next up we'll have a Half-life 2 netflix series with a cameo from the skibidi toilet
>>484111757>all of leda's gang is good>except the ones that aren't?freyja, moore, dryleaf danehornsent ending (only his dialogue against messmer is good)ansbach and thollier carries them>>484111775why are you this mentally unstable
You can say git gud all you want. Commander Gaius is objectively broken and his hitbox inflicts damage on you literally when he's not touching you at all.You cannot defend this.
>>484111857patch what?
>>484111857who are you even talking about
>SEAMLESS CO-OP IS BACKSEAMLESS CO-OP IS BACK>SEAMLESS CO-OP IS BACKSEAMLESS CO-OP IS BACK>SEAMLESS CO-OP IS BACKHAHAHAHHA PVPFAGS BTFO!!! ENJOY WAITING 40 MINUTES TO INVADE AN AOE SPAMMER WHILE WE'RE ENJOYING THE GAME WITH OUR PALS!!! GET FUCKED!!
you didn't hear this from me but: there are rumors FROMSOFTWARE will be working on developing a game based on the story of Elden Ring by George R.R. Martin.
>Nonstop combos with no breathing room>Blatant input reading>Every attack is delayed>Way too much damage>Undodgeable special like Melania>Bullshit trackingGreat boss from, really nice!
>>484111975you literally responded to my first post with "kys" and then after saying im not engaging you CARRIED ON like you always domods do your job, im passed this.
>>484111947Dodge forward at a diagonal repeatedly.
>>484111947run back while metoers are flyingjump sideways to dodge meteorsjust run to dodge 4 afterimagesthen roll to dodge 5th attack then roll again to dodge explosion
>>484111978i got stoned and defeated him in one try without buffs. when he attacks, dodge.you are capable of defeating him. there is no boss in this game you're not capable of defeating. you are overthinking this. stop thinking.
What is the condition for Miquella's spell to wear off? I remember that I broke it by going passt Bonny's Village but I think it could be triggered in other way since that area is optional from what I remember.
For the meteors, run left then jump. For the afterimages, pic related>>484111947Alternatively let the afterimages hit you and just wait for his slam down (roll into him) then delay roll to match the sword-pulling-from-the ground and have that delayed roll to roll inwards to dodge the AoEIf you fuck up at any point you lose 60%
>>484112072He's pretty
>>484112112no, i didn't, i'm just asking since it's probably the 20th time you posted something like that
Scat leveling makes the DLC too easy after awhile...
>>484111857>so mad he can't even clarify what he's mad aboutOmegalul
>>484112049why now, the mod will just break again after the patch upcomming tuesday
>>484109959>Enter fog gate, the screen cuts to black while Miquella speaks.Dearest vestige of the Golden Lineage...Find purchase within the vessel of your elder, Mohg.>The silhouette of Mohg's corpse rises above the Divine Gate. His horns unwind and extend, forming solidified black arms.>The camera focuses on his face, as the horn in his eye forms a gilded crown, his skin begins to lighten, and his bright, golden eyes jerk open to lock onto you, the one who killed him and made a joke of his army.My lord, Godrick the Golden.Graft for us a path to divinity.>His mouth begins to open and the screen cuts to black.Ah...It is just as I dreamt...>Camera fades back to Godrick's silhouette standing in front of the Divine Gate.Lowly Tarnished...So that we might return together...>He does the pose with his axe.I command thee KNEEL.>Fight starts and opens with an attack that one-shots you.
So that scene in the trailer where Marika pulls some goopy strings (are those runes?) from some dead creature at the gateway thing where everything is covered in gore is never explained right?Is there a good theory as to what the fuck is going on there?
Well?
>>484112071is it a sequel or a prequel?i'll huff the copium
>>484111875Not really fair to compare them, Sekiro had a clear narrative with beginning, middle and end with clear-cut characters with distinct personalities who all had objectives and ways they would go about achieving them and explained them to you. Its themes were woven into the storyline and displayed with every character arc>GenichiroI want to preserve Ashina and the old world and I need immortality to do it no matter what it takes to get it>OwlI want immortality because I'm a greedy fuck>Interior MinistryWe're here to unify the land and Ashina has immortality we'd like to have>Isshin, Kuro and SekiroI think we should move on and let death have its natural place in the world Boom, simple. Both Armored Core and Sekiro show that From are perfectly capable of actually coming with decent narratives, they strictly chose not to with Elden Ring even though it's violently opposed to the actual direction of the game.
so is seamless coop bad because you can't invade people or does it fuck up the game and let like 5 yellows spawn
>>484111975Moore is alright. I would have liked more but being a lonely sad retard went a long way. Freyja needed more. Dane wasn't meant to be a questline NPC in the same way, I'm not pretending he was more than he is to count him here. They're all good, but Freyja should have had just as many, if not more, things to say and do as Ansbach. She's the only fuckup for me.
you seem to be misunderstanding the concept of "im not engaging" I can just watch one punch man til you leave if you want, im not talking to you, you're a cyberbully. if you're the only person that is going to chain respond when I post here I have no reason to contribute a damned thing to this general anymore.im not mentally unstable, YOU keep winding me up on purpose.
>>484110908yeah, for some reason the weed cutter gets hyperarmor on its onehanded attacks. it's a great offhand option if you want a short fast weapon as your main weapon but a colossal in the offhand would be too slow>>484110913i collected all of these during china hours, my recent players tab was indecipherable. even if the connection was fine, though, it wouldn't change how shit these players are. i'm not good at pvp, but clearly skill has never been a determinate factor in arena outcomes, especially lately. for every clip I got, there were 3 on the cutting room floor because>swift slash>blindspot>chinese on top of having bad internet
>>484112334Read it
>>484111727note that there was never a rumor about an Elden Ring show, just an offhand comment from Miyazaki that a movie wasn't impossible. GRRM is being cheeky and doing that thing you see all the time in comedies where someone admits to something by denying it in a way that's too specific and reveals new info.
>>484112071what
This is the most beautiful character From has ever designed.
>>484112368
>>484111845I appreciate your efforts but Miquella is a top.
Anyone willing to drop me the Gladiator hat that gives taunt? I already burnt Leyndell.
>>484112049dont care I play on console
>>484111490Sekiro proved they could and Rannis quest proved they could work it into the format of a normal souls questline.Let's face it, the NPC quests suck this time around because fromsoft's workflow planning has been so shit they were afraid to record voice lines until near the end of production. Contrast with the base game where very character has gigabytes of cut audio because they recorded voice lines early and then rewrote the game 4 times. Reminder that Hyetta and Shabriri only exist because Aniplex made them cut the original frenzy questline a month before release and those were the only two voice actors they could get back in the studio to record new lines before launch.
>>484111857wrong thread stupid
>>484110226I AM FUCKING BEGGING HERE YOU NIGGERS, PLEASE
I think I'll just disable the summoning pool before the demigod bosses. Getting real tired of retards watching both Rennala's cutscenes.
>>484112527I want to touch his face but I feel like my hands would always be too dirty and thin to be deserving
poasted in old bread.. Do other people online see you as a naked person or do they see the transformation? Also fml I pressed ng+ and forgot to go back to St Trina
>>484110226>>484112650r/fashionsouls
You know what was a fun boss fight? Godrick the Grafted
>>484112072>>Nonstop combos with no breathing room>>Blatant input reading>>Every attack is delayed>>Way too much damage>>Undodgeable special like MelaniaWrong on all accounts. Git gud (unironically)>>Bullshit trackingThere's one combo during which he always snapped instantly towards me without even an animation. Clearly broken and hope it will get fixed, but even with that it was perfectly dodgable.
>>484112638>Aniplexwhat level of conspiracy am I on here
radahn's after images should have been a weapon art that shit is so cool
>>484112709they see the transformations
Bayle and Midra are the best bosses in the DLC and it`s not even close.
>>484112230>swearing guy is angrygee how'd you figure that out buddy
>>484112786The move where he thrusts upwards into the air after spraying fire at you? I noticed the turning animation on that was broken, yeah.
>Invade>3 people with the META OP LOADOUT CLICK NOW bullshit
>>484112861*stir fries this cat and puts them in a stew*
Ranni was made like this!?
>>484112786>most speedrunners are transgender
>>484112861you're completely right, in terms of atmosphere, characterization and actual gameplay no other bosses come close.
Who’s the worse the character concept? OC Donut Steel Rellana or Radahn+Miquella?
>>484112702corrupting him is part of the charm
>>484112861none of the bosses are good.
>>484112962There is nothing wrong with Rellana
Does Miyazaki deliberately make good equipment look like shit?
>>484112915what were they using?
>>484099194the only one of these that count is summons, because they get agro and you can just wail on the boss from behind and ignore mechanics
>>484112638The same style of side quests from other From games gets exceedingly more difficult to follow when it stops being a linear adventure game, and it applied to a open world one.Without a guide, most people are just going to miss advancing Millicent, Hyetta, and Diallos down their questline.
is the dragon communion transformation useless?
>>484113018Um. There is everything wrong with her. She is probably the single most random and obnoxious character ever.
>>484113053Yes, he gets a perverse joy out of it.
there you go, i've deleted any meaningful posts and I'm not wasting my efforts on this general anymore, bye, get fucked. should have just left me banned frankly what was the point, so you could tell me to kill myself again? good job cunt. bye, never coming back.
>>484112983I dont think so, at most I think it'd be nice if he fell in lobe with me which would be kind of corruption but bridging the gap is scary to fantasize about
>>484112763
>>484112962>"Sword of Messmer">Is in a random castle miles away from him>No dialogues, no cutscenes>Actually, she's related to Rennala and was there when she found her moonBoth of them fucking suck
>>484113129yes
>>484113131>Gaius
>>484113131Were you not expecting some sort of Carian boss after fighting a Carian knight? Is it forced that she's there with Messmer when her sister also jumped a godly redhead's bones the first chance she got?
is there anything to do in shaman village? I found some tree sentinels, a coffin, a gesture, a fallingstar beast and a talisman, but other than that it seems empty.
>>484113053Why would you use that though? The other Hornsent helms gives you a better stat boost to Strenghth or Dex, and not split the difference between both.
whats the maximum for blessings?
>>484112395If I'd known you would be so cordial about it I wouldn't have been so mean.
>>484110226That staff probably goes well with Vyke's armor.
>>484112962Miquellahn/Radquella retroactively ruins a good chunk of the base game plot while Rellana is just another ignorable dungeon boss with two sentences of lore.
My headcanon? Trina asks us to "kill Miquella" because she's sure we won't be able to kill him. It's a plot to fight Radahn and bring his soul back.>>48411331820 scadutree, 10 spirit ash
>>484113210>half-baked mary sue bio>three weapons (one of them is backhand blade)>mimic tear>slowbro-ass fashionsovl..............................................................
So does every mod, including visual upgrade mods, require you to disable the anti cheat and thus turns off the official online? How retarded.
Ok how the fuck are you supposed to dodge Radahn's Gravity pull? Is the only way predicting when he will do it?It seems if you don't dodge the initial pull you are fucked. Cant dodge behind because he has AOE all around him. Seems like extremely cheap boss design.
IS THAT IS THAT A TARNISHED? COME TO FUCK MY CARIAN OC DONUT STEEL WIFE?SKIBADABADOOOO
>>484113215>in a castle directly on the path to him and in fact the major roadblock leading to him and merely the next settlement over viewable from her backdoorwow, such a random castle miles away...
Random Messmer soldiers should not do enough damage to 3-shot you, a god-slaying demon, at 60 vig.>in before skubidoo fragmentsYes, yes.
>>484113291You can get a summon upgrade, and a bell bearing through that location.
>>484111845m-more
>>484113129yes, even more so than previous games. At least you got physical attacks to use in the past.
What do I have to do for Leda to target Ansbach? Ive done everything with Freyja and Ansbach and i already talked to Hornsent after killing Messmer without him.
>>484113427>It seems if you don't dodge the initial pull you are fuckedpretty much, yea.
>>484112962Rellana by far. The whole Radahn fiasco is only half or part-bad.Also, Moonrithyll… really?>>484113018"This is Rellana! She's the cool hidden twin sister of Rennala, and she dual weilds magic swords that are imbued with magic and fire. And, unlike her sister, she can cast TWO full moons, and instead of using forms of glinstone pebbles and comets, she only uses glintblade spells because she's SO COOL!"She is someone's edgy OC that you would find on DeviantArt, that somehow made it through into the DLC.
>>484112295I can't say I'm really disappointed. Getting more on Melina and Malenia seems like it should have been obvious but I've come to expect that Souls DLC is almost NEVER about the obvious stuff and the unanswered questions you expect it to be about. To this day Artorias of the Abyss is, I'd say, still the only DLC which pretty much wraps up the base game's lore and makes it something very close to a complete package. I was never optimistic that we'd really get any more answers about Melina.
>>484113210>>484113131Rellana vs HellenaWho wins?
>>484113427if you think that's cheap wait until you learn about the undodgable
>>484112810Before a game goes 'golden' (ie finalized for distribution) its submitted to controlling stake parties for texting, which mainly involves reviewing the content to ensure it's acceptable and some basic playtesting to ensure it meets quality/completion standards. In the past, Bamco loomed large over fromsoft production because they were the primary publisher and retained some rights to the IP through the publishing agreement. It would be they who would give the final okay. After fromsoft's acquisition by aniplex, bamco is now contracted through aniplex rather than through fromsoft directly, and bamco retains basically no rights beyond basic licensing and distribution. Aniplex gets the final say.This matters because when a game is delayed, it's delayed for exactly one reason: the near-final version failed this check and wasn't approved to go gold. The extra month is used to address feedback from the controlling stakeholder, ie changing objectionable content or polishing unfinished aspects of the game that couldn't wait for a day 1 patch.The original frenzy quest involved the merchants more directly, including a great deal of dialogue from Kale. The problem was that the jewish allegory was too on the nose, and the quest eventually turns the merchants around to be the bad guys in a way that was really, really obvious. Thus Kale's stuff was cut and instead they got Yura's voice actor back in the studio to record a few lines and plopped him in a random location to provide you with the direction to the sewers that Kale's quest would have originally provided.
>>484113436Look at that goofy snake above his shoulders.
>>484113274> Were you not expecting some sort of Carian boss after fighting a Carian knight?Moonrithyll is a retarded character too.> Is it forced that she's there with Messmer when her sister also jumped a godly redhead's bones the first chance she got?It really makes the whole Rennala x Radagon romance kind of a joke.
>>484113601Yeah I know about it, problem is I have trouble even getting to Phase 2 consistently with how tanky he is. Man this boss sucks.
>>484113541i feel like if she had a different name you wouldn't care
>>484111661Why is your damage so low?You should be aiming for 50k+ per hit
Wait does unalloyed just like mean likepure gold?
>>484113752I think she's trying to tell him something
>>484113474I found the fingercreeper ashes but no bell bearingmaybe it's for later
>>484113427>>484113539you know you can just sprint away if you get pulled in, right? if you start moving as soon as you get pulled, it won't catch up to you. although, if you lack the reaction time to dodge the pull, you probably lack the reaction time to just run away after you get caught. so, uh, eat shit I guess?
>>484113601which one's the undodgable
I wish I could officially join a Mohg faction. Taking his body back from Radahn and Miquella with Ansbach was great.
>>484113395tenks
>>484112527Would worship
how do pure mage builds slog through the carian school section of the game when everything has magic resist and is designed to counter magic in general?
>>484112072i could fight it with a dragon communion build
>>484113625Fromsoft was acquired by Kadokawa and not Aniplex though.
>>4841140003 rocks
>>484113892You have to jump to that tower towards the back of the village for both the bell and the summon upgrade if you decided to get the FemYurt ash instead of her weapon.
>Alright bro it's Sunday maybe we can get some fun invasions against normal peop->Two swift slash ganks back to backThis game is doomed
>>484113896No I don't, that's why I'm asking smartass.
>>484113441>The Black Knights were the primary force of Messmer's army. Their first leader was Andreas [...] he would rebel after learning of his liege's serpentine nature.>The Black Knights were the primary force of Messmer's army. Second to their first Knight-Commander was Huw [...] he followed his father, Andreas, into rebellion against MessmerA bunch of Messmer's troops hate him because of the snakes. Fort of Reprimand, for example, has Messmer's soldiers hanging. So, yes. His "Blade" shouldn't be in a castle far away.It's like if we found Malenia in Castle Sol instead of the Haligtree.
>>484113925I had a dream that there was an alternate ending to the DLC where mohg came back after we beat radahn but he wasn't an omen anymore because he died and lost the curse.
>>484113862In the real world gold is always mixed with another metal to form an alloy because gold on its own is extremely soft and malleable. Anything made of pure gold would deform to your touch. However, pure gold is also very inert and doesn't oxidize, so it won't tarnish. Alloying gold gives it structure and rigidity but allows it to oxidizePresumably in game, unalloyed gold means the power of grace without the influence of some controlling cosmic intelligence mixed in, hence why unalloyed gold is used by Malenia and the cleanrots to forestall Scarlet Rot, and why the unalloyed needle can block the flame of frenzy.
>>484113752i wish i had a gf
>>484113534>>484113534>>484113534>>484113534>>484113534>>484113534>>484113534
I really hate phase 2 radahnthis is just eye cancer
>>484111884In what param are spells stored?
OH WAIT, WHAT WAS THAT? YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT A BRIEF PAUSE AFTER MY FOURTH SWING MEANT I WAS DONE WITH MY COMBO?YOU THOUGHT I WAS DONE???LOL, SIKE!!!!!!!I ACTUALLY HAVE A FIFTH SWING!AND AN AOE EXPLOSION AFTER THAT!!!!LOLOLOLOL!!!
I went into messmers boss room by accident and now I can't have swift slash which everyone in pvp is using.so much for tolerant japanese
>>484113534Go talk to Leda again at the crossroads or whatever. She'll mention that the Hornsent is no longer an issue after getting his revenge and he'll get himself killed doing something stupid, so she's decided to kill Ansbach instead.
>>484114172you suck at the game
Anybody else get a christmas vibe from Radahn phase 2? Like, a christmas movie credits song vibe.
So how's this for tips for beating Radahn?
i know the timing wasnt great but...come on
>>484113448stay humble
>>484113752LOL
>>484114172do you like it?
Smithscript Cirque with flame art has way more AR than the normal Backhand Blades with dex or lightning infusion.I can reach over 1200 AR with Golden Vow, Flame Grant Me Strength, and the Flame Cracked tear. Just dropping a little hint for Swift Slash enjoyers...
>>484114304Thyrus and Stomveil are two very powerful weapons, can't disagree there.
>>484114293What the fuck hit you after the cinematic phase change?
>>484114212This type of enemy is so retarded.>What if we made Crucible Knights but way less fun and respawns
>>484114212I seriously hate this bullshit. A common enemy in the DLC has more hp/combos than most bosses in ds1/2/3
>>484114304The AI hype is out of fucking control
efcee?
>Seamless Co op added invasions
>>484114379Faggotry damage. My character is homophobic.
>>484114338BBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYLLEE
>>484114304True, I beat him by dropping Stormveil on him and he died instantly
>>484114114kino
>>484114293Radahn, who is all about marital pride and honor, decides to cheat by going two vs one on the guy who defeated him in honorable combat.This guy is mind controlled, and does not want to be here.
Confession:I have never cared about any of the music in any FromSoft game. Normal level music is always elevator tier and boss music is just "AAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA" + some mumbling in latin + some violin playing arpeggios in the background. I always turn music off and listen to my own music while I'm playing. I always see people baseding out about LE EPIC OST OMG IT'S SO HECKIN' EPIC but I just don't care, and I find it boring.
>>484112527M-Miquella-sama... this lowly Tarnished sow apologizes for dirtying the air you breathe with my exhalations. I'm sure I must have caused you great offense... Please don't be merciful!
>Marika overtook Melinauh oh maidenbros?
>>484114563Okay? What does that have to do with christmas?
>>484114594is this ai slop
>find no cool new weapons or armor>use the exact same shit I used in the base game 2 years ago
What was Goldmask drinking and what does it taste like
>>484113901Quick slash left into quick slash right into cross chopThere's a single frame window to dodge
>>484114452>optionalSeamless Co op added matchmaking for ganks
>>484114212These guys are actually fine because most of their moveset is super honest and you can dodge most of their attacks by positioning/spacing and find windows to hit them mid-combo. An elite mob having one special anime attack they use once in a blue moon is fine.The problem with a lot of bosses is that the long-winded anime combo is their bread and butter basic attack, so there's just never any of that back and forth interplay and you're just always waiting for your turn instead of using the game's mechanics to create that dynamic.
>>484114212In all honesty, I have no idea how to deal with the frost guy because he makes a fuckhuge tornado that just passively kills me while also trying to rape me with his sword and I just die. The first time I got through the area, he just kind of disappeared. I think he fell off the roof. Another time, I just put on an ironjar aromatic and savage lion claw'd him to death while ignoring any dodging or blocking.
>>484114594Thanks for sharing, you are so cool and unique.
>>484114304>Moonveil>excellent scaling with Strength and Dexterity>Thyrsus>Storm Veil
WOW this is SOOOO fun
>>484114647>find no cool new weapons or armorare you even trying?
>>484114618mom > daughterunironically hilarious that with the DLC we know more about Marika's personality than Melina despite Marika being dead or the next best thing
>>484114210nigga I don't knowI just use cheat engine and that chinese dude's table on nexus
>>484114109I forgot, but there's one part of the map where a Furnace Golem literally explodes an entire campsite. Since he moves towards there I imagine it's intended for you to fight him there. Even the Marika statue gets destroyed.>>484114647I used the Milady the whole game
>>484114641of course, look at the hands
>>484114647me with moghs spearthey really fucked up by making it so good
>>484114563>who is all about marital pride and honorHe sicced his army on Malenia when she was severely outnumbered (count the Freyja-like swords scattered around Aeonia). The literal first thing he does on-screen is try to shoot someone 1% his size with a railgun from across the map when their back is possibly turned.
>>484114212>6 hit combo on a normal enemy>only stops attacking for 1.5 seconds punish window
Ymir was the magical instructor of Rellana and Rennala, and is presumably the guy depicted in the inverted statue of the Carian study hall in the base game, and also probably the reason why there are so many fingercreepers around Caria manor and the study hall itself.So why exactly was his student given a proper boss fight but he was given the Gideon treatment? Why? I keep feeling like Miyazaki is overly biased in favour of sword women and moons and tumblr tier fantasy logic.
>one of the most "you didnt beat the game" communities in all of Souls fandom >"Haha games journalists are bad and incompetent!" >cant beat the DLC>level to 333 and plays through the whole thing with fingerprint shield >"Always be cheating! Too EZ boys! There it is!" I dont understand how they can hold these 2 thoughts in their heads simultaneously
>>484114707Based. Reds don't deserve anything good, ever.
>>484114689He disappeared for me too. The whole area went snowy in the shrine, I walked out and wondered wtf was going on and just went on never encountering him until I co-oped with a friend. I assume he walks off the roof if he triggers an animation in the wrong place or something.
>>484114707>this webm again>with the retard who sees 2 people casting spells and still turns his back on them
>>484114797>youtuber is a retardwow no way
>>484114210>>484114720Never mind, the param is literally just called Magic.If you're using hexinton's, that table used to be spyware back in the day. I don't know if they still scan your PC nowadays though.
>>484114797who is that?
>>484114594I can understand that and to each their ownI prefer the much simpler music DeS had personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q16PAMzk9TI
What the fuck actually ARE the Shadowlands though? An alternate dimension that got created alongside the Scadutree? Part of The Lands Between that got shunted into an alternate dimension? Was Messmer's crusade for the purpose of sealing it? If Marika is from the shaman village, is the 'other world' that the Numen came from the Shadowlands, or are they still aliens but some of them settled in the Lands Between and others settled in the Shadowlands?
>>48411459495% of the music in from games is actually indeed shit5% stands out as real bangers thoughcan't go through a fight like bloodborne's ludwig and turn if off
>>484114707>says the guy with the dragon hunters katana
>>484114709The game peaked with Godskin Stitcher and thats a fact
>>484114797I don't CARE you niggerstop posting e-celeb garbage here
>>484114769I love it, learning to time my dodges and hitting that R1 is so exciting to me
Rellana's Twin moons
>>484114594post your music then, you probably have shit taste
>>484114797So what was is problem? Didn't get those Skabu fragments? Shit build? Just a bad player in general?
>>484114773Ymir was a bonus treat after the real boss fight. Why does everything have to be some contest where being the boss fight is a victory? Honestly I wish we didn't even fucking fight him at all. It was fine I guess, would have been better with Jolan joining, but why the fuck do you think him being an even biggerer boss fight would make his deal better?
>>484114293The only vibe I get from 2nd phase Radahn is white flash, white flash, phantom clone, phantom clone, white flash, white flash, phantom clone, white flash, purple flash, purple flash, white flash, you died
>>484114707>THE PEOPLE IM INVADING SHOULD JUST LET ME KILL THEM>THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHITyou were definitely 'that kid' when you were a child.
>>484114594I agree with you, except for the ds1 OST. That one was good. Everything else after that is as you say.
You can rest now.
YOOOOOOOOOO this pvp is fire frfrffr
>kill x boss>no satisfaction whatsoever just reliefnigga fuck this game
>>484114452>OptinalSo just like the TT it's just an invitation, not an invasion
uuuuuuh where do i go after Messmer?
>>484114917>is the 'other world' that the Numen came from the Shadowlands, or are they still aliens but some of them settled in the Lands Between and others settled in the Shadowlands?they came in the stone coffin ships in the Cerulean Coast. The Shadowlands are in the obscured cloud region in thecenter of the lands between. Messmer's crusade wasn't to seal it, Marika sealed it after people found the crusade unspeakably violent and brutal.
>>484115114yes, and you should stop posting here, too
>>484115091That old man was too based for this world
>>484114992is the spell good?>>484115114same, it just feels like "thank fuck i dont have to do that again" rather than satisfaction
I'll give Radahn 3 days of trying before I bust out El Mimo.
>>484114707>redclitty>type BLol
>>484114707This one riled the co opcels up lmao
“Superior sorcery of the tower priests, wielded as an incantation of the spiral. Wrap one's arms together and hold them up to the heavens to summon a spiral of light that erupts at the enemy's feet. Column of light persists for as long as the button is pressed. The spiral is a normalized Crucible current that, one day, will form a column that stretches to the gods.”What are sorceries really? They just said an incantation is a sorcery…
the spells and particles in elden ring are just too much its not funwhy cant i be a knight delving into a scary dungeon filled with skeletons and maybe a big monster like in demons and souls 1i dont want to kill jesus and his boyfriend in heaveni just want to wear knight armour and smash skeleton skullsFrom have gone too far and become what they sought out to fight originally with demons souls
If you actually used this you seriously did not beat the gameAbsolute bullshit bleed buildup on instant cast
>>484114594Ludwig is the only good theme in a Souls game and that's only because it sounds actually distinct. Dancing lion is okay too99% of it is identical latin chants
>>484115172But the Cerulean Coast connects to the north of Limgrave. There shouldn't be any body of water for them to sail to there from
>>484115114what bothers me the most is the lack of dialogue and cutscenes
>>484115146just follow the grace, now i understand why they put it
Why is there some anon who keeps posting the same exact webms over and over again?
>rellana's twin moons and it's just testicles>the left one even hangs lower than the right
>>484114212This isn't new
>>484115172>they came in the stone coffin ships in the Cerulean CoastOh right yeah I forgot about those. >The Shadowlands are in the obscured cloud region in thecenter of the lands betweenReally?>Messmer's crusade wasn't to seal it, Marika sealed it after people found the crusade unspeakably violent and brutal.And Messmer's crusade was against the Hornsent because1. They absolute reek of the Crucible2. She was mad about the shaman genocide?
Miquella will NOT make me straight
>>484113901The one you can't dodge
>>484115023I would rather be not be a fight at all, or actually be a legitimate boss with his own remembrance and everything.
>>484114212i hate them as well but, just sneak past him bro
>>484115352The Cerulean Coast does not connect to Limgrave, what? They also quite possibly came from another planet anyways. Could be another continent, planet, or dimension.
>>484115424Why are you gay
The stone coffins are not space ships, they are actual coffins filled with putrescence of the giants sealed within. The same giants who used ancient meteoric ore swords as arrowheads in their war with the dragons.
About to fight Radahn, what am I in for?
>>484115427that actually got nerfed because it actually was out of place with the rest of the games pace
>>484115454post twin moons
>>484115554nice phase 1, worse phase 1 as phase 2
>>484115554you got spoiled on who the final boss is?
>>484115424>Literal dropping your sack on enemiesThis game is a fucking joke.
>>484115554Truly kino fight, so cool fireworks and quick action!I cant stop going "woah" every time I enter P2.
>>484115439Marika also wanted to get rid of him, and empty her dungeon of all the murderers and rapists.
>>484115439>Really?It's said somewhere as the center of the lands between, I believe, and a few other references >And Messmer's crusade was against the Hornsent becauseMostly #2.
>>484114594i always thought the music in these games was nothing to write home about... practically the only tracks i remember are four kings, gwyn, and malenia boss music
>>484115542are we talking about dark souls or elden ring at this point
>>484115554A decent first phase and then a lack of vision or knowledge of what is happening on screen.
>>484115554Decent first phase and perfomance-raping second phase that is also an assault on your eyes with all the flashing lights
Is literally everything in this DLC weak as shit to lightning? I do much mroe damage by spamming gransax bolt L2s than with bloodhound fang +10 on 60 str and 60 dex with bloodflame blade applied
>>484114594Same here dude. I usually listen to the OST on first playthrough until I get stuck, then I use my own playlist. And on subsquent runs I also use my own music. I have a Dark Souls playlist on spotify. It's what got me through Bed of Chaos.
>>484115528The shape of the Shadow Lands fits the empty body of water in the middle of the Lands Between like a puzzle piece, it's basically guaranteed it used to be connected and was made to disappear/sent into a pocket dimension/hidden by Marika's veil magic
>completely eclipses the final battle >so good they could literally end DLC there, with you just bitch slapping some sense into frail Miquella afterwards and it would still be perfect
>>484114605Violent Tarnished the only way your kind learns is by experience.I will grant you the feeling of my love and compassion.Now Tarnished undo your armour and bend over.I shall grant upon you my sacred Dew.
>>4841155542nd phase like a latam mugen character
>>484114594dunno man, i like the subtle background music in the open world
>>484115554Turning into our saviour and 2nd phase, Turtlegod.
>>484115023It sucks because now retards will think the teacher is weaker than the student and this probably isn’t the case in lore
>>484115791why do you keep posting AI shit
So the grafting that Godrick and his ilk were able to use was because of Marika's shaman combination genetics?
>>484115421>just follow the graceIt's pointing into a wall. There's no path there. It's pointing south west, but I can't find the way. Halp
hated the last area
Give me strenght Frenzy bros. I can't beat last DLC boss. It's been two days.
>>484115742>90% of the game is wet>Shit ton of arenas are covered in water>Dexfaggotry through the fucking roofNo shit
so which sorceries are good atm?
>Miquella losing to his own fanatic shotacon follower>Miquella barely winning some literal OC donut steel meme>Miquella getting mogged by the personification of his love and affection who he cast into an underground pitSo are all the Miquellafagging posts bait, falsefags, or are Miquellafags just loud enough that they post disproportionately more than everyone else?
>>484115771>final fight is against a bunch of weak NPCsAnon NPC fights are always free and easy.
>>484115876start at the storehouse 1st floor grace, go west
>>484115554
>>484115863Doesn’t he graft Tarnished?
>>484115771I ended up with fucking Hornsent in this fight and it was the worse shit ever. His fucking pursuers one hit me at 60 vig and 12 skadoos.
>>484115970Miquellafags disappeared en masse after the DLC dropped.
>>484116021thanks
>>484115971t. a soulless bugman
>>484115637it's literally impossible not to have gotten spoiledthis shit was posted all over 4chan before the DLC even dropped
>>484115857>it sucks because now people won't believe my headcanon
>>484115949wild strikes, regen on hit, ironbody perfume for phase 2Don't learn his moves just trade him to death
>>484115863no its his great rune
>summon for placidusax>unable to summon second guy>invaded anyway>cooper dies anyway>you have left the bounds of the multiplayer area, returning to multiplayer areawho designed this shit
>>484115970Can you even blame people for choosing St Trina?Cutie flower girl who just wants to take a nap. Drink her sweet nectar
now THIS is a themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvCtUKno5Q0
>>484115771Good taste. It was my second favorite part of the DLC only beaten by RADAHNI did all the sidequests so it was a great 3v4 with the only missing party being Hornsent's ugly ass.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjUJZZhjp0oThe way they tweaked their health and damage to drag things out and provide ample times for line delivery as well as staggering it so you get invaded twice before finally getting a helper was kino
>>484115970the real answer is miquella fujos arent clicking on a waifu pollif a husbando poll existed we would see much different results
How long should I wait before putting my sign if I want to help a certain host again for Radahn? I keep getting instantly summoned by different people I feel bad for some guys
>>484116034No, he grafted dragons and giants to himself and his children too.
>>484115770I don't think that's much to go off of. It certainly doesn't fit perfectly at all. If it were at any point shorn away from the world then you would have to address lots of questions about why certain areas overlap with others.
>>484116057It's so fucking over.
>that, is a work of heresy…So why aren’t heretical incantations all called sorcery then? Is Corhyn just retarded?
>>484115771Yeah. It was a pretty great fight. The WWE entrances by every NPC still around was sick. Curious though: What happens if you kill Leda out in the field before this fight? Does she just poof away so that this fight can still happen?
>>484116071t. a filtered shitter
She killed billions......
>>484114773>probably the reason why there are so many fingercreepers around Caria manor and the study hall itself.That's from the Two Fingers trying to find Ranni bro.
>>484116159He would lose to Messmer and a few male NPCs though.The DLC really wrecked his popularity.
>>484116274When you enter the arena the game declares it as a no-violence area, you cannot kill her without cheats
>>484116335so what are those golden strands she's holding?
>>484116335and that makes me hard
I haven't used consumables all game. Can someone pill me on the best ones for Radahn?
>>484116215heresy is not native to the world, it is but a contrivance, all things can be conjoined.
Can I trust you guys to drop me stuff I missed? I need to fashionmax
>>484115970>>484116057>>484116210>NOOOO THE HECKIN PEDERASTS ARE DISAPPOINTEDdie, homosexuals
according to some random strawpoll i had saved for some reason (while trying to search for the husband and the other waifu poll), the dlc was a failurehttps://strawpoll.com/40ZmqbkWlZa
>>484116119>ironbody perfumeForgot those things exist.
>>484116389I meant like earlier in the game when you meet her out near the Miquella crosses. Are those also sanctuary areas? I never really paid attention.
>>484114304gpt's still retarded I see>>484116215>Is Corhyn just retarded?yes, classic religious zealot. read "orders healing" description for why goldmask did what he did, and got killed for it.
>>484116438you cant trust me
>>484116465spic
>>484116460Most of the people whonlike Miquella are straight women, not gay men
>>484114773Just because he was an instructor to Rennala does not mean he was stronger than them. Radahn was taught by an Alabaster fag and his feats far exceed what the Alabasters can do>Noooo, strong womyn in my game, this cannot be I want to be dominated by strong men reeeeeeeFirst stop watching Andrew Tate, and then kill yourself
>>484116372He has a specific niche. Real question is how many of Morgott's yumes defected to Messmer.
>>484116210I unironically feel kind of bad for the gook drawfag who made all those cute arts of Miquella and Malenia just hanging out together. Imagine all those hours of their work getting a fat shit dumped on because From did an almost total retcon.
>>484116335>Marika will never ERDTREE SLAM your tiny tarnished body into dustwhy live bros...
We're not getting another DLC, right?They said this was the only one, right?Is there anything in development at Fromsoft right now? They always had something in development parallel so far.
>>484116535oops
>>484114859ongbal is a retard???
>>484116335to save trillions
is shieldless phase 2 radahn possible? all these lights bouncing everywhere like a damn rave is pretty annoying
>>484115423either mental illness or they're bots. real people make new content.
>>484110343Endurance to at least 25, Vigor to 60, Str or Dex to whatever weapons you want to try
>>484116645if this is the boss design then hope not
>>484116539Pedos are pedos
How the fuck do people even play in multiplayer I get such incredible lag whenever I join someone. It's unplayable.
>>484116621>Be gook drawfag>Run with headcanon>Get BTFOlmaoAlso>Everything I don't like is a retconSpotted the Godwyntranny
>>484116107It’s not even headcanon. Pic-related. The lore favors the crazy fingertranny but the game favors the crazy moon twin.
>>484116645I would tell you good news but you're a retarded wojak poster.
>>484116645They aren't making a dlc or even an rpg game again
>>484116685Yes if you use spirit summons
>>484116685Of course it's possible, it's just gonna take you ages to figure out the dodge timings.
Can anyone recommend a weapon that's light but still does decent poise damage?
>>484116614Not that many. Morgott has a sort of "old gentleman" feeling that Messmer lacks, the only overlap they have is that they're both Fixable[TM], other than that Messmer's entire aesthetic is way more of a bad boy archetype with the snakes and genocides and edgy evil fire magic
>>484116645Probably Armored Core 6 DLC, or even Armored Core 7Also there was something about a new IP called spellbound or something, a while ago
>>484116645>Is there anything in development at Fromsoft right now?AC7 is confirmed. 6 was a banger.
>>484116423boiled crab for physical damage reductionholy proof pickled liver for holy damage reductionexalted flesh for damage increaseprobably some grease, tooI bet you could poison/rot him as well, but idkoh yeah, and there's also that Sacred Oath consumable if you don't have it as an ash
>>484116792milady
>>484116645they said maybe but unlikely (i'd go for seconds ngl unless froms next project is dark souls 4)>>484116715women get a free pass because insert reason here
>690 AR ARC/FTH on bloodfiend fork flame art infuse 45/45>can use the new messmer AoWdragonchads we won
>>484116685yeah if you are into rhytm games and dont mind trying the same thing over and over again
>>484116787uhh how about solo
>>484116878he said decent poise damage not dogshit
>>484116792Star fists. They got bleed, too.Every speedrunner uses them pretty much.
>>484116578> Just because he was an instructor to Rennala does not mean he was stronger than them.In these games? It’s usually the case.
>>484116935Possible according to your skill level
>>484116645this is the last soulsborne game they are developing for the foreseeable future, they are shifting over to armored core and helping monolith with making a xenoblade game now
>>484116645>another DLCThis is about 3 DLCs shoved together and released as one, so probably no.
imagine the boss fight
>that stupid fucking "Look I'm raising my paw to swipe at yo- actually I'm doing a bite with like two start-up frames lol" attack the great red bears haveI bet there were high fives all around the office when they thought of that one.
so now that the dust has somewhat settledwhos harder, melania or consort radahn?I wanted to say consort but it took me less tries than with malenia using the same build + no summons. Radahn was like sub 100 while malenia was well over 200 attempts. It could be like that because attempts are longer but malenia only has 10k hp less than consort and if you count for all her healing its basically the same.I think if you have max scadutree fragments then its easier than malenia.
>>484115310I killed ng+7 Metyr in like 8 seconds with this shit. Thorn spells look cool as fuck I was hoping they'd add one or two more and man they delivered. It's probably gonna be gutted but I'll abuse the fuck out of it in the meantime. Going through the main game in ng+ now to see what other bosses I can wreck with this shit.
>>484116645Part of me does hope for more DLC, both to expand the world and to unfuck things. That and we need more armor because this DLC was just horrid in that department.You can legitimately play a drinking game with this DLC where you take a shot every time you see exposed legs on some leg piece slot.
He clearly didn't learn his lesson in Caelid.
>>484116645This took them over 2 years to make. We're definitely not getting another.
>>484117036What dragon is that anyway? Haven't seen any npc talk about it.
>Messmer is front and center on all the DLC promotional stuff>Trailers, merch, etc>DLC drops and a fucking fanfic-tier Carian princess gets pulled out of Miyazaki's ass to be his girlfriendIt's not fucking fair
>used star fists before they were le cool speedrunning sweat weapon because I my gladiator larp looked sick with themget off my weapon you darn kids
>>484116159Not even fujos like Miquella
>>484116645It's okay bro we're getting a GOTY Scholar of the Erdtree edition with balanced PvP, 6 player limit and all the cut content from the base game
>>484117143i dont know
>>484116708Yeah, I'm pumping END right now. I'll try to see how far I can go with 40 VIG. I always get it to 60, but I wonder from what point it's really required given my skill and playstyle.
>>484116625Mommy Marika.....
>>484116578You realize this game on the surface, the kind of logic you’re employing, is implying that no male ever went above 60 Int, and that is a huge absurd.Or maybe Miyazaki really does think all women are better than men at magic, not sure. All three moon spells are more Int demanding than the three primeval ones.
>>484114797>admits defeat, levels and cheese the game>makes a joke about it to the audience>autists think he's being genuine
>walked into Niggermer's room without realizing it was his room a few days ago>back out, finish exploring shadow keep>turns out i locked myself out of the fucking dash attack talisman by doing thathow do i hack it inim so fucking livid that the fat fucking nigger faggot slant eyed nigger is still doing quest failure state shit like this holy fuck im going to lose it
>>484116751Nothing in that description indicates that he is super strong.
>>484115310Thanks for telling me it's good anon, using it right now>But you did not le beat the game>Implying I care about the autistic screeching of a general who has been filtered for over a weeklol lmao
>>484117083Malenia is way harder to cheese than Radahn. Radahn is so fucking easy with a greatshield.
>>484117167>Scholar of the ErdtreeElden Ring is Dark Souls 2 2(2)
>>484117083Malenia is easier by far because they unironically made consort Radahn into a sekiro boss that watched too much anime>20 skibidi player who can solo Malenia with spiked caestus and watches those japanese cartoons
>>484117212get fucked retard gaijin
>>484117146If it makes you feel any better the fact they're living in separate castles can be headcanoned as them having had a falling out at some point later in the timeline
>>484117083Malenia is harder.Radahn has one single move that is stupid and cannot be dodged with unmodified movement abilities unless you play around it for the entire fight in a specific manner.Everything else is pretty samey and doesn't have anywhere near the technical skill compared to malenia.
>>484117083Consort radahn's attacks are way more Chaotic and need way more practise to understand. Malenia can get knocked on her ass repeatedly by a dozen spells and weapons, can get frost potted out of her waterfowl and has much lower hp.
I got my scooby doo level to 15 with the 5 chunks you find after commander niggercunt, how the fuck are there still 5 levels worth of fragments in the map
>>4841170303? i can see 2, but 3?>>484117083>only has 10k less hpit's closer to 15k actually, since she starts phase 2 with 80%you can easily cheese malenia because she has low poise
>>484116792I second Star fists. Caestus too.
>>484117083Depends on your build. Malenia was designed to fuck with tanks. Radahn is designed to fuck with twinks.
>>484117213He is not incorrect. The moon is merely a closer body. Space is bigger. The Greater Will is bigger. He taught them, he is likely their magical superior.This is the result of them relegating him to a smaller character model, just like the likes of Sellen, who is described as the best sorcerer ever.
>>484110083AR
>>484117152Yes they do.
>>484117312>Be sure to explore the game thoroughly to get all your Skibidi fragments!>WHOOPS, FAILSTATE I'm convinced Miyazaki in this regard will literally never learn. I feel bad for that Anon.
>>484117196>You realize this game on the surface, the kind of logic you’re employing, is implying that no male ever went above 60 Int, and that is a huge absurd.holy shit anon you need to stop poisoning your fucking brain with gender warfare bullshit for your own sake
>>484117260everyone is getting all tripped up abt the phase 2 light attacks when literally 1 talisman can make them do minuscule damage its laughably funnyyou can just slap on the braid talisman and if you have max scadu you will literally take 90% less damage from them its a joke.if you look past all the flashing lights and shit the boss is pretty similar to phase 1 if you are someone who is smart and knows to dodge into him instead of away
>>484117196Probably. Hope he does. If it makes you seethe it's goodRennala has a vagina and it's better at magic than Ymir. Seethe and Cope
>>484117212>Fight Leda>Not beat her, just start the fight>Locked out of Thollier and St Trina stuffNYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
my favorite build is bloodflame larp and was excited to get Ansbach's incantation, but it's so underwhelming. comes out fast-ish and you can travel a bit if you charge, but the damage is shit and the poise damage is non-existant. Am I missing something?
>>484116715I think of him looking like a young man, not a child, and the in-game model backs that interpretation upBeing cursed witub eternal youth doesn't mean you're a child forever. It just means you don't get OLD
>>484115310This spell was made for people who swapped to INT in the base game after FTH was found to be shit. Ironically FTH dominates the broken builds in the DLC and INT is nowhere except in this FTH locked spell.
Babe wake up new hostcel IQ test just dropped
i fucking hate Messmer. everything he does looks the fucking same, this is so stupid.
>Marika passed MelinaThis is bullshit. Melina can't fucking get anything from anyone. Fuck all of you.
How many of you are actual fujos instead of just baitposters pretending? Honest question
>no marika nursing handjob cutscene>no opportunity to drink milk directly from marikas udders>no hidden "Marika's undergarments" item to find shit dlc
>Gideon Ofnir, the ALL KNOWING>Sorceress Sellen, the best and brightest >Count Ymir, teacher of Rennala and RellanaAnd all die in ten seconds
>>484117559Velka 2.0.
>>484117449This.Even his mega moves in phase are pretty simplistic to dodge.Malenia is the far more technically demanding fight assuming you aren't trying to cheese it.Dodging waterfowl close quarters and avoiding every blow from her clone attack are both significantly harder to deal with than anything radahn throws at you.
>>484117449Yep. Holy +3 and Lord's Protection mean you just don't take damage while blocking. Actually just immune to most of his attacks.
>>484117212cant you get it with the Grand Merchant mod? >>484117483spells still rape in the DLC. i laughed after i walked up to a furnace golem and chucked spiral comet at his ankles and it stance broke him faster than my colossal character did. for the few times you run into something like the ghost dragon, you just slot rock throw and suddenly your one and only weakness is covered
>>484116778Wojak posters are the natives of the boards. You are on stolen bandwidth
>>484117556its easy just do summons and use bleeds and forget about him
>>484117342oo yea i forgot abt that frost pot thing, always forget to use that LOLidk maybe malenia is just harder for me personally.but also weve had 2 years to study malenia and radahn just came out like a week ago so i think if we were to talk about on release it would be a different story cuz we didnt know abt frost pot and stuff
>>484117520>ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!
>>484117464I love him so much.
>invading>spawn into the world>game instantly crashes>this has happened 4 times in a row>happens in arena too? What? I validated files
>>484117414>He taught them, he is likely their magical superior.See this is your headcanon. Just because he was their teacher doesn't mean they didn't surpass him.
>>484117448>>484117453#GirlBossGame. Chuds get mad all the time when I point this out. This game is Uber fucking feminist and men barely have any plot relevance at all. Barely.
>>484117132Nevermind I got my shit pushed in. Can't get used to not being the only target.
>>484117430They used to, nobody likes Radahn/Miquella.
>Jumping>3 times as many I-Frames as rolling>Starts instantly>costs less stamina than rolling or blocking>faster recovery than rolling>can combine it with a jump heavy for fat damageHoly shit, why aren't people using this more?
Finished the DLC.TOP TIER BOSSES:>Messmer>Midra>Divine Beast Dancing LionSolid:>Bayle>Putrid Knight>RellanaOk:>Gaius>Metyr>RominaMeh:>Scadutree Avatar>RadahnDon't remember all the minor bosses, but the Death Knights were also very cool
This you?
>>484116956>>484117401fist weapons are decent but they have almost no range which I need a bit more of
>>484117686I was here before them so no.
>>484117583>midra in Ainvalid list
>>484117449The main problem is that I couldn't see what the fuck is going on. And somehow, even with Lord's Protection, the move where he pulls his swords out of the ground oneshot me from full (60 vig) health
>>484117775Trump lost
>>484117464>>484117740Imagine cuddling him on a cold night and having to deal with his huge blob of hair in your face
>>484117828
>>484117879What's wrong with Midra? Too much firespam for your taste?
>>484117792I'm on a board with fujos and after the news dropped people were excited about the possibilities of dubcon brotherfucking.
>>484114917Territories under the veil of shadow, literally veiled by the blankets you see hanging from the Scadutree (Shadowtree in gaelic). It was part of the Lands Between and is now somewhat a seperate diminsion behind the veil. Marika veiled it to contain the Hornsent. Messmer's Crusade was partially to hide him the Scadu so he wouldn't be around people to notice his snake curse, partially to get vengeance for Marika's people against the Hornsent. Shaman are their original name, Numen are what they are called now/remembered. They came in the big boat coffins.
>>484114594me too bruh i listen to carti and travis scott while im playing fr
>>484117774You realize low level enemies can take out high level bosses in a lot of From games rightI remember watching a Sekiro video on the ghost girl who took out Isshin
>>484117342>can get frost potted out of her waterfowlwait what, really? a single frost pot?
>>484117594Don't care how smart you are, a sharpened piece of metal to the guts will still kill you.
>>484117827Because it feels inconsistent. You know with rolls that you'll always dodge if you time them right.
>>484117828You are forgetting the giant Hippo and that Inquisitor boss for minor ones.
>>484117594>no man can kill a god>kills a god>turns into a ball>uhhhhhhhhh whatever the fuck is deal was>>484117775i mean every female variant is bigger or stronger or whatever, not that i care since femdom fetish (as miyazaki intended)
Is Romina the most forgettable boss
>>484117583Its hilarious that the most reasonable boss fights are the best, and the two reskins designed to bust your balls for no reason are universally regarded as horrid.
>>484117828I liked the hippo more than the Dancing Lion
>>484117828>divine beast in top tierbeyond my comprehension
>>484117590she doesn't wear any
what am I supposed to do here? this guy wont talk to me
>>484117828Move Scadu and Romina up a tier and Bayle down a tierBayle is only good becaue of Igor and that literally doesn't count because it's not the boss itself that's enjoyable to play against
>>484117965no he should be higher is what i meantfuck you.
>>484117905at risk of getting rather off topic he's doing well now despite being "convicted of crimes" that no one can name what crimes those are he uh, uh, allegedly uh payed off some woman as a business expense so something.... - every single person who tried to report on that.
>>484118089He's just a nonverbal autistic leave him alone
>>484117930Maybe he wears a little silk cap to protect his hair from split ends
>>484118101Stop trying to fight Bayle's leg and start fighting his head and you'll find he's a good dragon fight
Women 1/10 the size of men can equal men. Malenia is more powerful than Radahn, pound for pound. Women are at least 10–15% smarter or more intelligent than men. As the moon spells affirm. These are canon lore facts.
I will never understand why From made so many new weapon types and only put 2-3 in each category, but then made a bunch of weapons for the base game categories.Did we really need FIVE new straight swords (all garbage btw) and SEVEN fucking spears?
>>484117520Nobody cares fag
>>484117775and that's a good thing
>>484117836I have 667 hours and don't even know how to get that shield.
>>484117775As it should be
>>484118114>no one can name what those crimes areGod damn you are too fucking stupid.
>>484118032>only thing she has going for is reskinned kindred of rot>most people will just kill her in 1-2 triesyeah, not even rellana gets this treatment because people love messmer and she gets popular by association>>484118089gesture
>>484117583I fucking HATED Putrescent so god damn much
>>484117583eh
>>484112962Radahn + Miquella and it isn't even close
>>484117775>Ultra feminist lands between>kill everyone as some random nameless man
>>484118164>start fighting the head that jumps back 600 feet after every attackFromsoft hasn't made a good dragon fight everPlacidusax and Midir were mid except for the spectacle, Bayle is the same, all spectacle but the fight itself is genuinely boring as shit
>>484117836
>>484117583decent list, I would definitely swap Rellana and Romina, and SA with Divine Beast, and also put Putrescent knight into B, but overall it's good
>>484117990I fail to see how that is relevant at all.
>>484117775>women and fags fuck everything up>need a men to unfuck things>feminist
>>484117827Because DS1-3 and BB taught them that roll spam is the only way
>>484118251I can post clips of them floundering if you really want but its the wrong board so i'd like to just move on passed the chud incel trump lost flinging asap thanks.
>>484118114The courts that convicted him were sure of his crimes>b-but that was le deepstate biden conspiracyCope
>>484117583Am I the only guy who liked Gaius? Everyone here seems to be sticking him in the lowest tier.
happy last day of pride month radahn
>>484118352…you’re using a boss fight as evidence for lore when it doesn’t work that way
Marika is the ultimate female power fantasy. She will be remembered alongside the Danaeryses and Edelgardes.
this is my first time invading in a souls game, am i supposed to just sit around and wait for them in a corner and catch them by surprise or what?
>>484110086It's actual trash. I think they did it on purpose so people will give up and stop obsessing over it and realize it's just a fun swordfighting game
>>484117828Move bayle up to top tier and I'd largely agree with thisAnd scuda should be much higher because that fight is kino
>>484118312literally me
>>484118392I'll reconsider it when I fight him on horse
>>484118392Bad hitbox, and being a optional boss guarding a shitload of skabu fragments won't win him praise.
>>484118374>them flounderingI don't care about "them." Pointing to other retards doesn't make you not a retard. Grow up, retard. Takes one google search to go actually find what the crime was.
>>484118441Edelgard is the best girl in her own game though. Can't say the same for the other two.
>>484118375courts are a popularity contest not how you think they work like how tv shows, except "bull" which shows somewhat accurate.they overturned weinstiens rape charges despite "being sure" too.
I love abusing OP abilities in PVP
>>484117483New gravity are strongFinger spells are amazingThe new death spells are also greatThorns are arcane, the entire point is causing bleed with 1 cast with the Finger staff
>>484118392I liked him too. His charge hitbox gave me some trouble but other than that he's a pretty decent fight with a cool moveset.
>>484117836I beat the DLC
>>484118558Byleth is best girl
>>484118364Only women can fix it too, retard. Ranni is right. Marika was right. Rennala was right. Men are always wrong. Radagon was wrong. Gideon was wrong. Azur and Lusat were wrong. Ymir is likely wrong as well. The only woman who was big time wrong is Sellen, and she was following in a man’s footsteps.
>>484117836A win is a win
I just die every single time I try to jump down to putrescent knight, wtf is this
No matter how strong a woman gets, no matter how high her INT or how powerful her STR, no matter how much VIG she levels and how many defensive buffs she stacks, the truth of the matter is her pussy will always be just as weak and vulnerable. A level 60 Type A can subdue even a level 713 Type B if he gets between her legs and lands some CRITICAL STRIKE!s on her weak points. This was true for Rennala, no matter how powerful her magic was, getting addicted to regular powerdickings from Radagon and then being deprived of them ruined her completely. Marika was similarly fucked into submission by the Elden Beast flooding her cunt with its tentacles and bullying her cervix until eventually she stopped resisting and meekly got put on the stake for our Tarnished to find her hundreds of years later.
>>484118364Even with Miquella, the idea is that he's too womanlike to be capable of anything on his own
>>484117836The cheesing chuds aren't going to like this one.And there are a lot of them in this general.
sword of night>sucks ballsclaws of night>kicks assexplain?
>>484118618Ok faggot
>>484118521im not arguing this here, im telling you not one person could name the crime when it was discussed on tv. they were literally "uh it was, well you know what he did" "name the specific crime" "*crickets*"stop calling me stupid I know /pol/ know what i'm talking about at least, and you're just digging your own hole.
Anon is right. Malenia is barely Radahn’s size and she managed to fight him to a “draw”, which is still arguable. Rennala put a stop to something men could not handle, and only women can.
>>484117836For me? I prefer Mohg's Great Spear.
>>484118682swords are dumb and claws are fucking cool as hell
>>484117836No, this is me though
>>484118101I never summoned Igor and Bayle is by far my favorite boss.
>>484118664but i am one of those and like iti doubt no one pretends they are a god gamer by playing that build anyway
>someone asked in a interview with george rr martin about the elden ring show>pic is responseso its basically confirmed that we are getting this show right? If its live action it will be the most dogshit thing ever.god i hope its just a cartoon / anime cuz then theres actual potential
>>484118068Why? It's a fun fight, and it has by far the best soundtrack AND design in the DLC.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ2LGEqyvdk>>484118458>And scuda should be much higher because that fight is kinoReally? For me it just kind of died before I knew it, and nothing about it stood out to me.
>>484118817Is Radahn at least somewhat fun when you fight him with Ansbach and Thiollier?
>>484118841It's gonna be so fucking pozzed if it isn't a cartoon/anime.
>>484118418I'm not though. It's clear that Rennala and Rellana are both very skilled and strong. You don't need to look at the mechanics to tell you that. Stop being obsessed with lore accurate mechanics. I'm saying there is no evidence that Ymir is still stronger than the girls he trained in their youth.
>>484117414>best sorcerer ever>gets killed by me and a dude in silly pantsBold claim
>>484118817
>>484118619Nope, I'm going to light the world on fire.
The DLC ending with literally every character dead and nothing accomplished continues to make the Stormveil trio the funniest shit in any Souls game. Everyone is either 100% dead or maybe dead at the hands of an omnicidal murderhobo, but Nepheli, Kenneth, and Gostoc are just three normal people chilling in a throne room at the end their quests.
>>484118571>Sure there were crimes and he was convicted based on evidence BUT IT WAS A CONSPIRACY AIEEEEEBy definition a cult is when people look at the figurehead and think he can do no wrongTo keep somewhat in topic with the general, the strongest sorcerers in the game were Rennala and Ranni who are both women. Cope
what was her problem
>>484118842It has the camera issues that all giant bosses have mixed with same particle effect spam obscuring your vision that the Radahn fight shit.
>>484118920It's a cheese setup, it literally removes cause bleed EVERY CAST and the spell has the cast time of glintstone pebble
>>484118834You'd be surprised how many people are so fragile that they can't admit they cheesed him.I've got nothing wrong with people who cheese and own it, it's the insecure little bitches I like seeing put down.
So Radahn is just a soulless vessel to control made from Mohg's body thanks to miquella
>get hit by any part of a greatsword horned warrior's combo>the rest of the hits are all confirmed off the single staggerNobody playtested this
What if Ymir didn't train Rennala and Rellana in magic during their youth but rather trained their bodies to submit to hard throbbing cocks? It would explain why they both grew up to be so vulnerable to getting mindbroken by dickings.
>>484118749Holy shit lmao. Please anon, my sides.
>>484110928Not bad!
>>484118964There’s no evidence that Rennala or her sister are stronger than Ymir either.
>>484118986But that is every boss in the game though?Even Prime Renalla could not take on the naked Tarnished and his bonk stick.
>>484119027Hornsent deserve death.
>>484117126Man what the fuck is up with the exposed legs everywhere
>>484118841It's gotta be animated both because budget and because almost every character design in the game would look absolutely ridiculous if attempted with costumes. Imagine even something relatively restrained like the Burger King Scholars.
>thorns are goodwtf
I'm requesting Goldmask's set and Freiya's golden lion shield.Password is: moonbuttGrace: Snow Valley Ruins Overlook
>>484119024so now im a cultist for mentioning something the tv said alrightim not even americanyou "people" are a joke, hope people are dumb enough to fall for your suppression long enough for biden to get out of office before people realize he's a pedo.
>>484119152Rennala has more health and does more damage. GG.
despite it all i still like em
>>484115970Leda's retardation is cuteI want to see her and the Tarnished interact more
Rellana and her sister found the two moons as children, implying that Ymir still wasn’t all that impressed when he was their teacher. Not sure why you’re all ignoring that.
>>484119024and the strongest sorcerer in the game which isn't saying much is gideon offnir the all spamming, assuming you don''t kill him during his five minute long speech
>netflix elden ring with live action dancing dragon fightpure gino...
The fight with Leda and her butt buddies was more fun than than radahn/miquella
>>484119326Well yeah, the Moons are only the closest of the starsNot much of an achievement
>>484119231Oh and I'm level 150 just in case
>>484118114You could simply google it, if you actually cared. He falsified business records, which is a felony in New York.
>>484119232It sure is convenient that everytime Trump does something bad it was out of context and a deepstate conspiracy>PedoTrump is the one who hung out with Epstein
>>484117836Just out trade him
>>484118441How the fuck is Edelgard even comparable to Dany who exists only for the fat fuck to share his rape fetish? How are either of them comparable to Marika? Is it just "lol they all killed a bunch of people"?
>>484119231Why do you never request things while I'm home? Sigh
>>484119152Rellana is the sword of Messmer, literally his most elite soldier. Ymir has no feats even close to that.
>>484119317>Mike got literally three times tallerSo if Malenia did the Divinity Gate ritual she'd end up Radahn-size right
>>484119095No one really knows for sure. A promised vow means that it was promised to him. It was a mutual agreement at some point.
>>484118364>need a men to unfuck thingsRadahn only fucks things up more by trying to fix itThe Tarnished of No Renown is canonically a woman and all of the ryonatard shit is also canoncope
>>484119420https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjUJZZhjp0oSeriously, a fucking NPC fight
>>484119504you're responding to a retard who automatically chimps out over female characters in positions of authority>all three of these are queens/empresses so they're all power fantasies!its not that deep
>>484119231what do i get in return?
Can I make this somehow work for Radahn without respeccing? Because right now FTH is basically useless for me since I cant use incants other than buffs.
>>484117520I care
>>484119447I dont actually care I stopped caring 5 years ago when they tried to kill us with a bioweapon>>484119453they are all deepstate puppets trump includedbut its weird how you are all flying off the handle, except no its not, thats your fucking playbook for the last 4 years.I hope they launch the nukes within my lifetime, so I can see you people finally get it.
>>484119425Yes, but it implies that he wasn’t all that impressed by the spell. It impressed the academy.Actually, if we’re to consider that Carian princesses get their own moons, it may mean it was Rennala, and not her moon, that impressed. The Carian foothold at the academy is a rarity it seems.
Why are people crying about Consort Radahn so much? The fight is pretty good and the moveset isn't even that complicated, there's just a ton of visual shit going on.
>>484118619>woman sends women to kill based golden boy, resulting in his mother having a woman moment and kickstarting global shitshow>shotafag sends woman to kill based cosmosraping boy, resulting in mass genocide>said woman also failing to carry out her mission while also losing sight of said shotafag>day is saved by Tarnished man who got sent off along with Godfrey by Marika, who was hoping that his based husbando's crew to could unfuck everything
>>484117827FROM does a really bad job of explaining mechanics because they want you to figure it out. Only issue is is that their games can be extremely frustrating chores without said mechanics in your repertoire. For instance, a lot of people don't know about STRIKE/BLUNT/SLASH damage, which can make a monumental difference depending upon your enemy. Ignore the "you didn't beat the game" crowd because ER is balanced around the expectation that you use your brain, experiment around, change your load-out for situations, and ruthlessly exploit the enemy's weaknesses while mitigating their strengths. You can't just take the same kit and strategy into every battle like you could in DaS. The Tarnished is intelligent and adaptable, not just strong or skilled.
Requesting someone with writing skill (AKA not me) to do a smutfic of Messmer in heat>Tarnished can't win the bossfight but keeps trying>Eventually the monotony of constantly beating down an infinitely-reviving Tarnished gets to Messmer>They start talking, short exchanges at first but eventually real conversations>The actual bossfight starts becoming more of an excuse to justify them spending time together, whenever they're done chatting Messmer just does his combo and sends the Tarnished home>Messmer still in denial and coping about befriending a Tarnished the same way racist KKK /pol/tards think about befriending a black guy, "not like the rest of them" "one of the good ones" type thinking>One day Tarnished visits and all the doors are closed and locked>Feeling a bit worried she parkours and climbs in from a window>It's mating season for snakes and the ones linked to Messmer have rubbed off on him>Unable to hold back his biology he pounces on the Tarnished the moment she drops to the bossroom floor and
>political discussion still hasn't been removedI hate the jannies.
>>484119548I don't know, timezones are whacky.>>484119675I don't know if I even have something to trade besides dupes of enemy armor drops from the DLC.
>>484109937i want the ultimate poise destroying build, what should i be dual wielding and what talismans?
Why did they make the DLC map so fucking confusing? I'm not that smart.
>>484119590See >>484119326
>>484119761>haha isn't it funny that NO ONE can even tell you what Trump did wrong? No one can name any of these so-called crimes he was convicted of>he was convicted of falsifying business records>I don't care>Elden Ring General
>go to her beautiful village>see all the empty houses>see the tree in the middle>see what the Hornsent did She did literally NOTHING wrong, Ranni is way more evil and selfish, I forgive her for everything
>>484119317I wanna see more art of God Miquella without Radahn...
>>484119724looks good anon
>>484119761>I'm a retard who didn't know how to do a google search and listen to other retards who spout conspiracy theories but I am smart enough to get what's going on and better than everyone elseYou're a joke anon, but not a very funny one. Grow up, actually.
>>484119957Does this board even have jannies? I don't think I've ever seen a single post removed and I've definitely never caught a ban when I definitely should have
Why did they change the icon for twin moons in the release patch?
The /erg/ archive and its consequences etc etc
>>484119890Bad camera, Miquella hair and light beams obscuring everything, and a bullshit right-left-cross combo attack that you can only dodge frame perfect or with lucky positioning when it's initiated.
>>484119997He was not impressed by it because he was obsessed with outer space. That doesn't mean he was actually capable of anything better himself.
>>484120050Messemer is a heroMarika did nothing wrongHornsent DESERVED IT
How do you even dodge Metyr's Hawking radiation attack?(The beam out of the black hole thing)
>>484119612>Elden Lord, who has always been canonically a male consort to a woman, is now a womankek
>>484119231will trade for duelist helm
>>484119970bros, please, i want to start the char today
>>484120223hornsent deserved worse, actually
>>484119612>all promo footage showcasing the tarnished being a male wearing the raging wolf armor
>>484119724There are some broken FTH builds on youtube that might require some specific talismans and such to implement get a bit more STR. You're close enough to the amount of STR needed to go with a greatshield build with some talismans, equips, etc. that increase str. Get a greatshield with the highest guard boost you can and upgrade it to max and tank his attacks and poke him with a spear from behind the shield. Apply rot, frost or bleed or multiple of them if you can. The custom builds out there with high str/fth are better and more refined than my generic suggestion though
>>484118441Isn't Marika closer to Rhea?
>>484119612>The Tarnished of No Renown is canonically a woman and all of the ryonatard shit is also canonThis but 100% genuinely unironically
>>484120203You’re implying Ymir wouldn’t have high enough intelligence to cast the spell himself. Doubt. You find Ranni’s moon in a fucking box.
Lore experts, why Miquella wanted to become a God and give blowjobs to his brother?
>>484120331This
>>484120050>>484120223>>484120331Kill the Hornsent
>>484120398Isnt using status weapons without arcane bad though?
>>484120492yes mother
>>484120467Giving blowjobs to his brother is actually a prerequisite for him becoming a god.
>>484120467The world is cruel, so he wanted to make things better. He is a well intentioned villain.
>My Fingers Hurt>I wish I was at my church right now getting handjobs>I wonder what Jolan's doing, probably moping>Stupid Carians>They don't even know the moon's big because it's close and not because it's strongCount Ymir, the eternally lonely
>doing this guy with help>he does his flying kick>see he's going for the help>charge up skill>HE CHANGES MID FLIGHT AND JUST POUNDS ME
How's Mohgwyn's Spear since it got nerfed? I've only seen one person using it since the nerf and either he didn't have much arcane or something but the damage and bleed build up was pretty lackluster.
>>484118682They really wanted to make you feel like Kotomine Kirei
>>484119910>You can't just take the same kit and strategy into every battle like you could in DaS.If your build is good enough it can but those are somewhat rare and generally are talked about. Like a decent Moonveil build can take the entire base game with very little alterations, maybe a talisman here or there.
>>484120492no bulge no genocide
How puffy is Miquella's butthole? We already know it's a gentle shade of pink and utterly hairless.
>>484114000It's early in the game so just base damage on any weapon is sufficient.
>have friends who have never played Elden Ring>they believe Marika is actually in the game and looks like she does in the fanart KILL ALL COOMERS
Why is there nearly zero build up for fucking Renalla's sister? You're just passing through what feels like a random fort when you see like two or three Carian scholars and one Carian troll and then suddenly you Renalla's sister and Messmer's like third-in-command.
>>484120318I feel so bad for Rennala, I want to be a mom so bad
>>484120732Miyazaki is a braindead coomer though
>>484120467He wanted to be a benevolent God so he got rid of all his emotions before he ascended but that left him a sociopath. He wanted Radahn because he's the strongest option.
How big is Miquella’s dick? He looks a bit older on top of Radahn’s back. Do you think he has golden pubes now?
>>484120680its sour and unshorn
>>484119420Thematically it was the peak of DLC. They could end it right there.
>you're a cultist because.....you just are ok, you're a joke, you're stupidsure is election season. I said I don't care and i'm not american, I just noticed some things and, you're proving me right>muh elden ring?I dont care about that either i told you earlier im FUCKING DONE with you people. guess im still posting out of habit, perma me if you like.
>>484120492>>484120050>>484117185>>484116625>>484116335imagine the smell......
>>484120648Still good for PvE because great spear with good statsPvP fallen off very hard now that the WA doesn't buildup bleed as fast and great spear powerstancing got nerfed
>>484120841Before the DLC released, I thought Leda would be the final boss
>>484120657nah bro im alexander anderson
>>484120661You can beat the game with anything, even your fists, but every difficult enemy has an optimal weapon or strategy that usually trivializes the fuck out of them, and that's without using spirit ashes or summons.
>>484120743She really does feel like a retcon or at least an ill-thought-out late addition
>>484120648the skill is insane in pve
Still cute!
>>484120432Who knows. He was never visited by the moons himself so he likely didn't know any of the moon spells. >You find Ranni’s moon in a fucking box.What does that have to do with anything.
>>484120743Because Miyazaki saw the lore text for Ymir and got worried people would think a woman a better wizard than a man, so threw it in at the last second. He then insisted on Ymir going insane and having a horribly weak fight. All her lore is last second garbage. You can really tell.
>>484120054ill draw more of him for sure
i don't get it. Who is Mquella shadow? Since every Empyriam should have one.Who is Mesmer father? Radagon?The game says that he is older than Radahn, but he ended up with Marika after the carian treaty. So he was born before MArika met Godfrey? Is Melina his sister? ie she the GEQ as well?
>>484120663Based, only Miquella deserves a loyal army who will commit genocide for him. Hornsent aren't people they don't belong in the age of compassion.
>>484120648Got triple raped for pvp. Still decent in pve. Paid for the sins of bugmen who abused it to no end for years. Seriously, chinks/japs loved this thing.
>putrescence cleaver is a channeling ash of war with a cancel animationliterally unuseable
>>484121085i dont know
Is Mohg having a senior moment here or something? He looks so confused.
>>484120529There are incants and skills that cause status effects. And rot isn't beholden to arcane I don't think, just bleed is typically arcane-associated (just as frost is more int associated). Antspur Rapier for example can apply Scarlet Rot and its a dex based weapon. I think applying Rot would be more based on perhaps Malenia's incantation Scarlet Aeonia with a backup weapon. I haven't done these builds though so best to look for a rot build tailored to DLC Radahn
>>484121063> What does that have to do with anything.It’s how spells work in this game. You see a thing, and relay it. Now everyone can cast it, if they have the intelligence for it. Primeval sorceries and moon sorceries are all based on observations.
>fight new boss>filtered for hours>sometimes days (no time to no life it)>think it's impossible>keep going for a bit longer>finally winyou would think after playing all these soul games for many years, like 15 years, I would be able to short track all this bullshit in which I stop being shit for a shorter amount of time
>>484110078Seeing your pic made me think of Miquella singing Lovefool and now I cant get the song out of my head...
>>484121210You hit him so hard Miquella's charm wore off for just a moment.
>>484120301I don't have that, ONLY have the rotten one
>>484121085>Miquella's Shadowidk my bff jill>Mesmer's fatherWe don't know. It could be Godfrey or someone else.
I went into messmers boss room by accident and now I can't have swift slash which everyone in pvp is using.
>>484120978Obviously some people can, but I'm talking there are builds good enough for a normal human to get by well enough without requiring hours of muscle memory on boss patterns
>>484120492>bimbo marikadisgusting tyrant, i will tear down this corrupt order and->tired mom marikaALL FUCKING HORNSENT SHOULD FUCKING HANG
>>484120863Elden Ring is religious, just like Star Wars or the sex/gender wars in politics.People have yet to see all the parallels.
>>484121354good
>>484120732It's lore accurate though
>killed Ramadan after 12 hours, sword and board no ashes of war or other bullshit>I wish I could go back and fight him again These games are crack
>>484109937>Almost every lore YouTubers say Radahn was forced Huh? I thought they would support Miquella and Malenia more
Rl 125 or Rl 150 for pvp/coop?
>>484121085>i don't get it. Who is Mquella shadow? Since every Empyriam should have one.Unimportant. The shadows are only relevant when it comes to making sure the Empyreans stick to the plan. Since Miquella planned to become a God for the Greater Will his shadow had no reason to intervene.>Is Melina his sister?Yes, his younger twin sister to be precise.
>>484120492I'm just going to add all CG bimbobrainrotted shit to my filter>>484121394NOW this is much better
>>484121245That's because ER is closer to DMC than SoulsExcept the player, who stayed the same
>>484121053Seeing then in fetch modern shirts is so fun
>>484121210we prefer to call him pre-op radahn now
>>484121354Go look for an alternative counter to swift slash or wait for nerf
>>484114669new DLC makes me wonder if maybe goldmask was a golden order version of one of these things.
>>484121523>>484121394Literally how is it any different from Miyazaki with his own degenerate pornsick fetishes
>>484121085>Who is Mquella shadow? Since every Empyriam should have one.Dead, just like the fingers that was his handler.>Who is Mesmer father? Radagon?It's Radagon, butterfly motif, M naming pattern, red hair, and an afflicted being. >So he was born before MArika met Godfrey?Yes, Radagon might have been the lord that waited for her at the foot of the god gate, and Messmer was born later.Is Melina his sister? ie she the GEQ as well?Yes, and yes again.
>drink some flowers npc nectar>diebrilliant
>tumblr
>melee builds got supercharged, got actually good ranged options and talismans that enhance playstyles and specific attacks (rolling/crouch attacks, two handing), plus Cannon of Haima tier pots, greases that are easy to farm and a talisman that regenerates FP fast enough to be usable on 10 mind dudes>faith got a RIDICULOUS amount of new good tools>INT got shafted into oblivion
i dont understand the cocksucking for baylei just hit his legs till he died like every single other ancient dragon type enemy in the game and all his attacks were the same but this time orange instead of red
>>484121431Look at that fat ass god damn
>>484121245so pretty much rng
>>484121620Don't care, tired of you spamming CG Marika shit every thread, you're boring.
first souls game, almost blind playthrough of elden ringwhat am i in for? the mana weapons looked cool
>>484121394stop posting this ugly ass model
>>484121458125 for base game 150 for dlc ftr there are 0 real players in the base game to invade, all ganksquads i think
>>484121685it was so cool to do that 6 times, i wasnt expecting it and it was sooo funny too
>>484121769Only gaining 25 levels playing through the DLC seems unthinkable. Weird PVP players.
>>484121459>younger twinMelina is his older sister, Malenia is his twin
What's a good heavy weapon to go up against Radahn with?
>>484121242>Now everyone can cast it, if they have the intelligence for it. Primeval sorceries and moon sorceries are all based on observations.They're based on observations of the real things, not on seeing other people use the spells.
>>484117827Because it looks insanely stupid
>>484121780no fucking clue how they expect people to do this shit without a guide its just utter retardation to do it several times over
>>484121698I just use int to be able to hit with my DMGS Tried FTH but the buffing is kinda annoying. Might give it another go at a second playthrough.
>>484121757Fun action rpgGot a build in mind?
Imagine how wet and warm Marika's pussy feels
I like how in base game greatshields feel broken and remove basically all challenge, but in the DLC fingerprint feels almost mandatory if you want to use a shield at all.this felt extremely jarring as I sweeped farum azula and did godskin duo in a single go, with them being unable to get my shield below half stamina, meanwhile most of the bosses in the DLC can easily do 70-80% of its stamina in a single combo without trying.
>>484121712Bayle hype is carried by Igon. if you take the NPC out of the fight, everyone would hate him.
I'm convinced SmoughTown is retarded
>>484121394No thanksBimbo Mommy Marika is better
>>484121854Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword
>>484120050why is she so HUEG?
>>484121831most people walking into the DLC are 125-150, putting yourself at 140-150 lets you invade those players instead of the level 175+ "i just finished the dlc and am now ready to ganksquad" fuckers
>>484121757Also warning there are a TON of spoilers in this thread we discuss the plot a lot
>>484121854chicken leg >>484121915yea i dont know why they keep doing these obscure things, at this point i dont even bother figuring things out myself
>>484121842I might have gotten lost in that string of questions but I assumed he asked if Melina was Messmer's sister.
>>484121541shit bro it's even worse then because I played all the DMCsit's fucking over
>>484121860Elden Stars only happened once, similar to Founding Rain of Stars. The old primeval sorceries were ancient celestial observations.
i think i fucking hate this dlcs
>>484110232this is further supported by the fact they both use similar phrasing when talking to you about their vision>1000 year journey>let us go together
>>484121976Why? He is on the side that says Radahn is not Miquella's consort by choice, and is a puppet.That makes him smarter than a lot of people in the ER fandom.
>>484122157Get more scatman tree blessings
>>484122157The adults are talking, Rajesh.
>>484121757explore and have fun anon. take it slow and enjoy the journey and dont be afraid to use spirit ashes if you need to
>>484121698Int is still the strongest build in the game hands down to the point where I can still pummel shit like Renalla to death with Rain of Stars even when she's highly magic resistant
>>484121915they don't, it's supposed to be the kind of secret people figure out
>>484118841>2D AnimeDesigns are way too complicated and detailed for it to really work. I doubt any studio would want to pick it up.>3D animeCould work nicely, but needs the budget>Live actionSomething lke Godrick would look ridiculousThere's no winning here
>>484121925You don't need to buff with FAI. It's an entirely viable battlemage/caster playstyle.
>>484110232>Miyazaki's own views greatly favour Ranni over Miquella.Miyazaki is simply wrongFree will is a meme, most of human civilization is about taking away free will because it turns out when you give people free will they become hornsent
The real question one needs to ask before picking an ending is whether they'd have sex with Marika or Ranni.
>>484122194Because he thinks Melina is the GEM
Kill the HornsentKill my ChildrenKill my HusbandsKill the Elden BeastBecome Elden Lord
>>484122285>Int is still the strongest build in the game hands downimagine saying this unironically
>>484122393I WANNA FUCK FIRE.
>>484122285True, and the DLC additions INT did get are actually stupidly powerful. Gravitational Missile is one of the best spells in the entire game.
>>484122414yes mother
>>484122285Str is and has always been the strongest/easiest build in the game because all you do is jump attack, and the jumps will dodge the boss's attacks half the time too
>>484118841ive said it before and ill say it again where the fuck is HBO bloodborne?not getting any hopes up from "im under NDA I cant say anything hehe" show me a single clip, a single actor hired, a single voiced line.
>>484122426I can cast Comet at literally everything that moves and still come out FP positive. Magic is broken. The only thing FTH got that compares is the Lightning Spear Phalanx
>>484122414*kneels*
>>484122414Alright, which mending rune do you want?
>>484122157the only things I hate are radahn and the skibidis.
>>484122150Yes and nobody actually knows those spells anymore.
>>484122403She is? Why else would that FF ending cutscene play? Being Messmer's sister means she could be a cursed being too, with a malignant fire and a snake affiliation like him.
>>484122596i hate camerai have level design especially on the southi hate that every enemy is playing dmc while i struggle to play ds 1i still seethe at damage on ng+
>>484122414It's unironically funny as fuck that the Tarnished can kill all of her children, kill all of her husbands and then marry her. The post-ending conversation has to be awkward as fuck. Unless Marika is genuinely a freak and finds all of that really exciting. She DOES love murderhobos after all.
>>484111727>working on Elden Ring TV script instead of Winds of Winterthis fat fuck will do anything to avoid finishing the series
>>484122414I headcanon this guy as Godfrey's kid, like Nepheli, and I went with the fracture ending on him.If I believe you coomers, he'd be fucking his own stepmother now. If I believe what the game shows, she's a corpse for him to protect and use as an engine to keep a mending rune's laws going.
>>484121169>>484120925Fucking hell you're right. This got fucked up big time. Just muled it across to try it out on my latest character I'm leveling.
>>484118841>>484122294>anime>not dogshitif there's an elden ring show it's doomed from the start, modern writers and showheads couldn't create something good with a gun to their heads.
>>484122626Yes they do. Sellen isn’t surprised when she sees it. Gideon knows it. Rennala is using it in her fight. Coming into contact with the old primeval sorcerers gives the spells to the player.You find Founding Rain of Stars in a box too.
>>484122414Repopulate hornsent by impregnating their women
For something like Blasphemous Blade with Incantations, is it better to pump FTH to the 80 hardcap and then STR/DEX after or is it better to get FTH to 50 softcap and then STR/DEX to 50 before going FTH 80 after?
>Don't do any NPC questlines so none of them die>Finish the game but don't pick any endings>All major threats to the world are dead but stagnation and stasis continue>Pick your wife, build a log cabin in Limgrave somewhere and live there with her>Warm summers splashing in a creek with Millicent(or someone else, depends on you)>Cold winters snuggling with her in the bedsheets>Panting into each others' shoulder as you rut into her, feeling her nails dig into your back, needy and desperateSeriously why would I pick an ending again? I can pop every rune I've collected and become a level 250~ Tarnished probably. A god striding the earth, with a qt waifu by my side. Bed-shattering sex with Nepheli in a pacified Stormveil. Repeated creampies for Sellen in her old dorm room in Raya Lucaria. Rough doggystyle with Fia. Holding hands with Roderika and gently easing her into it.
>>484122838shut the fuck up capenigger
>>484122771Pretty sure she is just going to remain broken in the Erdtree containing the ER while the Tarnished rules the place.
>>484122957>pacified Stormveili fucking wishlazy jappas
>>484122968oh this isn't a westslop vs eastslop argument my dumb weeaboo nigger. it's all fucking garbage. anybody who watches TV in 2024 is a dumb tasteless faggot.
Do you have to kill messmer to get to Gaius Julius Caesar?
>>484122837they gutted the damage a while ago but the bleed buildup is still nuts, you need to use the jar shard and have pretty high arc to stunlock people
>>484123110What do you watch then my friend? Twitch streamers?
>dex/arc is the only build I have left to tryIs it actually fun or just sweaty? I want to try that new not-Darkdrift katana.
Co-op experience so far
>>484123110>everything is bad current dayNihilistic faggot.
>>484121979>Let me reddit her
>>484123193Dubs a dub
>>484118251>they had to literally make up temporary laws just to get convictions>NO U STUPID
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>>484121053Tummyslut Miquella
>>484123115I doubt it since his room has only 1 door, the back way out of the castle is just well hidden.
The lack of sheath in this game is disheartening.
best spot to farm sanctuary stones outside of Farum Azula?
>>484123184He's going to say he reads obscure books
I want Rogier to have nasty and heretical gay buttsex with D.This is all I want for the Netflix slop.
>>484123193Co-Op vs Radahn is going to be brutal as he's basically a survival game and most people do not have the builds to survive it.
>>484122719Because none of what the GEQ's purpose - the god killer - makes sense in the context of Melina's behavior. That FF cutscene is probably just another plot hole, ER is filled with them. GEQ is the leader of the godskins and was defeated by Maliketh. She has zero interactions with any of them, and says nothing about them. They don't recognize her (unless she just phantoms into the void completely when you are 'traveling' with her?) Her purpose was to rise against and slay the gods.Melina's purpose is to burn the tree - she resigns herself to it. Melina's character as a whole makes no sense (bodyless, already burned). If she's the GEQ, she was birthed by Marika, participated in the war after the shattering, grabbed the rune of death, raised an army of godskins, killed gods, then was burned, had amnesia, found her way to you to guide her to the erdtree, remembered her purpose but its unclear whether she embraced or forsook it then summarily burned herself to ash to restore the rune of death.
>>484122879>SellenHer whole questline is about rediscovering lost spells>GideonLiterally spends all his time studying and practicing.You can't just see somebody use a spell and then you suddenly know how to cast it yourself. That's never been how it worked.
So there are two spectral steeds, one for miquella and one for the tarnshed, right? since miquella ie journeying still when you enter the sahdow realm
>>484123315I do read obscure books I just also watch seasonal anime because I like big titties
>>484123184I don't watch anything retard>>484123196most shit is bad, modern society is spiraling the drain if you haven't noticed.
>>484122330It's pretty funny this kind of stuff comes from the Japanese with their society.
>>484121854wildstrikes great stars
>>484123193I managed to beat radahn multiple times as a summon, the key is to keep the aggro at ALL timesBut then it's a 50/50 if the host knows how to survive his meteor attackPretty fucking difficult, but REALLY satisfying when you succeed.
>>484114769Yes, that's one of the worst aspects of it. After all that long combo, you only have enough time to do a single rolling R1 before he begins another attack sequence.
>>484114769>normal enemyIt's a couple enemies that only exists to gatekeep the final couple boss fights. I actually liked them. The Spiraspammers on the other hand are the worst shit ever.
