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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Previous
>>484314419
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They're making a second DLC.
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Fuck Godwyniggers
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Fuckin sick another cool weapon I will never use due to the stupid INT requirement
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I don't have social media but I get it now
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>cant buff curseblade's cirque
>can buff bloodhound's fang
this has got to be an oversight right
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What's the Greek equivalent of the demigods?
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I've had my sign down for like 10 mins now outside of messmer and haven't gotten summoned. am I shadow banned or is the game dead already?
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I will not get carried away
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>>484327794
Demigods are a greek thing dude
Heracles is a Demigod
Any half human whos dad is Zeus is a Demigod
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>>484327813
What level are you? Also have you maybe not removed a multiplayer password?
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>>484327696
>Elden Ring will only get one DLC in Shadow of the Erdtree, but FromSoftware isn't ruling out a full sequel for the RPG
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/rpg/elden-ring-will-only-get-one-dlc-in-shadow-of-the-erdtree-but-fromsoftware-isnt-ruling-out-a-full-sequel-for-the-rpg/
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>>484327696
This dlc is already 2 dlc merged into 1. I sincerely doubt they will make anymore Elden Ring content.

>>484327794
Hercules
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ghiza's wheel is the best weapon in the game and anybody who disagrees is wrong
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>>484327696
Will it be a Ranni centered dlc? I'll also accept snow witch dlc I want more cold magic.
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>can trick the basilisk statue with mimic veil
:D
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>Scadutree avatar
>get one attack in
>run away or throw shit at you
>repeat for the entire boss fight
This is fucking Elden Beast again. The only good thing I can say about this fight is that it's fair.
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>>484327813
it's a monday night anon
but also it's dying down
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>>484327915
>Bamco demanded another Elden Ring title
>GEQ stuff gets scrapped
Frenzy Flame Ending continuation to Elden Ring confirmed
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>>484327794
Demigods
>>484327813
Anon, its like almost/is midnight in america and it's like 5 a.m in europe. Most people are asleep
The weirdos who are up at this time are likele yo either have already beaten him or are people who explore really really slowly and havent gotten that far
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>>484327696
Hunting down Metyr and destroying the Finger Planet
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>>484328045
I'd be OK with that. There are a lot of open endings in the game that could lead the way into a sequel.
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>>484327913
it was a password and I am a fucking dumb ass. thank you anon
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>>484328074
>>484328018
>Thiollier won't break anything unless you tell him where St.Trina is
Wait, what does he break if you do?
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>>484327935
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what the fuck am I watching
it took me so long to beat this hedgehog mother fucker with a claymore fighting wonky cameras
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>>484328006
>>484327813
Also seamless Co-Op dropped
Where is the guy that said you can invade seamless Co-Op? I need instructions.
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>whip ready
>throwing daggers stocked
>creatures of the night prepare to be hunted
this is the closest I can get to another castlevania game and honestly it's fun
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>>484328140
Idk why are you asking me
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>>484328225
I never played Castlevania.. Is that supposed to be Belmont?
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Post fuckable tarnishes.
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>>484328116
I once sat for literally like an hour in front of a popular co-op boss wondering what the hell was going on before it finally dawned on me. I am not a clever person.
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>>484328225
Walt Disney the vampire hunter
I like it
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what's the difference between sleep and eternal sleep in pvp?
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>>484328293
I mean the closest thing I suppose
it's not like any particular Belmont
but it's a whip and throwing daggers so it's close enough at the moment
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>Florisax is just a shittier golden vow
WHY?!
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>>484328281
Sorry, I just clicked a random post to get up a reply box and forgot to remove the first link.
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>>484328428
I admire the fact that you commit to a RP playthrough like that. Hope you have fun, Anon.
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>>484327730
why have only 9 int
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>>484328437
u rike?
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Are the frost perfumer bottle weapons good on an int build?
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>>484328140
If you don't get his fag potion before he starts losing it, you lose access to Dragon Wife/The buff if you wanted them
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>>484328405
more time, I think I read 10 second difference somewhere. I think the eternal sleep stuff isn't limited? Might be wrong on that.
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>>484327730
At the level you're at, is investing another three levels for the int tax really that make-or-break?
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Sword of light or sword of darkness?
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>>484328384
the stache gives bonus stats
thanks

>>484328492
it's honestly been pretty fun so far
the fucking smith script daggers had a learning curve but they're actually kinda solid
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>>484328582
dex/int
the damage is abysmal without buffs
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>>484327970
what's the one in the top right?
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Jesus fucking christ what a terrible fucking experience.
Damn, I really liked this DLC too, what a shitty way to go.
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>>484328190
ghiza's wheel's strong attack hits 4 times. combine that with
>millicent's prosthesis
>rotten winged insignia
>thorny cracked tear
>axe talisman
>spiked cracked tear
>contagious fury
and you do an absolute fuckload of damage. it can still be improved by putting on the white mask but it's ugly as fuck so i won't
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is there a website that tells you which staff or seal is the best once you plug in your stats to it?
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>>484328734
Blasphemous Blade.. You didn't beat the game. No, but seriously - good job. I did the same thing for my first kill lol.
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fromfags are we the baddies?
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>>484328586
But that's dependent on giving him the thing from Moore, not talking to him about St. Trina, which is why I was confused.
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>>484328045
>continuation to Elden Ring confirmed
unironically they should just get bought out by ubisoft if that's the case
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will i get banned from multiplayer if i CE myself more larval tears?
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>>484328684
istarelle from demons souls
pure magic damage fth spear only available on pure white world tendency in one of the shit swamp levels
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>>484328790
You will never get invaded unless you co-op to trivialize the game. That's a fact these noobs refuse to acknowledge. They opt into getting invaded because they're ass at the game and need help clearing it.
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tricky miq strikes again
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*trivializes the Scat Tree Avatar in your path*
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what's the best starting class for a pure dex build? samurai?
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>>484328747
Try Mohg's talisman.
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>>484328843
demons souls? never heard of that one. is it good?
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what's the lore reason behind the scadu avatar having 3 lives?
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>>484328921
fuck shippers, Radahn being controlled just makes the fight so much better and make a bad ending at least a bit better.
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>>484329032
The lore reason is that Miyazaki hates us.
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>>484329047
radahn made the vow keep coping
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>>484328789
I wanted to use Messmer's spear, but after the 2nd hour I gave up and just went for damage.
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>>484328225
>throwing axe
>throwing knives
>perfumes are the holy water
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>>484329047
he has cut lines, he's not mind controlled.
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>>484328963
i only have 3 slots available since 1 is reserved for great jar's arsenal, and not everything bleeds so i prefer to just focus on the multi hit aspect
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>>484329142
>he has cut lines, he's not mind controlled.
>cut lines
>cut
ok.
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Who cares. The lore was always shit and SotE sucks balls.
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>>484328960
Samurai is the GOAT. Which weapon were you planning on using?
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>>484328790
Cant tell if ugly woman or tranny
Just like its dog shit opinion
>>484328897
Too bad password phantoms trivialize the invasion opt in and making 3 v 1s the default maximum instead of allowing another red man to help you even the ganking odds.
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>>484329139
you've got it
I'm working on getting the smithscript axe then shifting the throwing daggers to the consumable

I'm not sure what perfume bottle to use for holy. I suppose fire would be the closest in similarity, but at the moment I'm a dex build so I guess lightning would be the smartest thing
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>>484329251
just wanted to play around with the new stuff mostly. milady, curseblade cirques, backhand blades, etc. a lot of it seems to favor dex
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>>484328638
They just need a tiny bit more range
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>>484329202
Fair enough. I wouldn't use the mask either, I hate it.
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>>484329142
NTA but you need to understand what "cut" means. It gives you an idea of what the devs had in mind during development, but it didn't make the final cut and therefore is not canon.
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>>484328458
Ohhh I do that all the time too
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>>484328964
it's the first souls game. i like it a lot.
great dreamy atmosphere (has a green filter that was apparently inspired by the 1981 excalibur movie, though I have no source for that so might be bs), cool music, nice designs-- some of which have been in every single souls game since.
the biggest issue is that it doesn't explain a lot about specific mechanics that make the game easier/harder by a fuck ton, so it's not very beginner friendly imo, and it can be incredibly stingy with upgrade materials depending on what build you're going for.
dark souls 3 actually feels like demons souls 2 in a lot of ways...
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>>484329219
>>484329392
yes and messmer isn't melina's brother
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>>484329364
it would certainly be very much appreciated

at the moment they go maybe like a meter or two past the range of the whip which is WILD how short that is
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>>484329304
You have to get in the mind of gankers. When you load in check recent players on Steam (assuming you're not a peasant). Then make sure to block all three. As you kill them they cannot be re-summoned. Then you just run away preventing them from reaching a boss, eating up their time. Meanwhile the friend(s) you kill start whining about how they can't reconnect and their group fall apart.
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>>484329032
Notice how every time you kill the sunflower, the gold pool of liquid decreases and gets darker and darker?
Its pissed at you and too angry to die so its soaking up all the nectar to rejuvenate until nothing is left. On its 3rd life the sunflower is tired and mustering all its strength to fight you which is why it has a ton of openings to hit it.
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>>484329496
https://x.com/HoboCringeMan/status/1807977639325716944
https://x.com/mr_larry_norkk/status/1807975157132095855
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Holy FUCK bros I had no IDEA greatshields trivialized the game this much. I literally just face tanked Niall and killed him before he even finished his banner buff, completely ignoring his ice whirlwind aural
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>>484329032
>>484329608
That's why it's the best boss in SotE
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Dude can you get out of my fucking space please.
I know we’re rape buddies or whatever but that doesn’t mean WE have to get physical.
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>>484329318
In that case go with Vagabond. The low base arcane stat could be an issue if you're into status buildup (don't be), but for everything else you'll be better off. There is an exception and that's if you're going to powerstance two Uchigatanas during your initial playthrough. If that's the case go with Samurai for the first one and get the second from one of the dungeons.
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>>484329732
imagine the smell
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>>484329479
eh watched it on youtube, looks kinda bad.
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>>484329219
>>484329392
He's retarded but jp dialog from miquella shows he's not only not mind controlled but was in on it from the start. Infact he demanded something from miquella too that he had to do for him in order for radahn to fulfill his part. You can learn a lot from looking at the original texts. Radahn is an accomplice
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>>484328921
That is so beautiful
>>484329047
You can still ship nonconsentual relationships
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>>484328960
https://mugenmonkey.com/eldenring
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>2nd playthrough on Dancing Lion
>die a couple times because I forgot all his moves
>eating shit to dropped frames
>get fed up, go offline
>beat it first try because my game isn't a fucking slideshow
Christ, they need to do something about this shit. Fun build though.
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>>484329584
I know how to do that. When I no lifed PvP two years ago I used the SteamP2P plugin to always display their Steam accounts so I can instablock them while I was loading into their world.
I heavily invaded in the Leyndell Tree sentinel area to gatekeep people's main game progress and would constantly be shuffling my blocked list.
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>>484329827
I don't know Moonspeak, so I can't really say anything about what Mitsubishi or Yamaha were thinking.
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>>484329392
>>484329496
cope all you want anons, nothing says he's mind controlled and everything says he's in on it.
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>>484329805
It's a fun game, not for everyone tho
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Jee is about to start his Radahn attempts
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I think Ashes need to have a substantially higher mana cost as a way to dissuade people from spamming them. Ashes are so strong that you could reliably and easily finish the entire game just by using ashes of war, essentially turning every build into a wizard build. This would make it so people actually have to level mind up a bit if they want to spam ashes every 2 seconds like what is currently happening it would also give a little bit more distinction from the caster archetypes and the melee archetypes as melee would be forced to melee a little bit more while casters main sell is that they can cast a lot more.
You should only be able to carry 1-3 starlight shards at once for the same reason.
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>>484329783
Honestly? He probably takes his hygiene seriously and would smell fine as a result. He’s way too snooty to be smelly.
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>>484329948
Kinda like with vegan kids or animals.. You know who's making the calls, even if they're "in on it".
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>>484330009
link me
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>>484329863
Had a similar experience with Maliketh earlier. I never had stutters on that fight in the past and now it froze several times during his attacks.
Annoying as hell.
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>>484329698
greatshields in the DLC are like medium shields in the base game
same for medium shields and small shields
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>>484327696
Please no. I'm extremely fucking burnt out
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>>484329732
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>>484330019
Wasn't that the problem DS3 had? Weapon arts being too weak to justify their high FP cost?
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>>484330008
>mfw I miss the smith that upgrade somber weapon
>had to deal damage with a shitty unupgraded Falchion
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>>484330146
But he was a puppet
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>>484330009
Whomst?
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>>484329931
Basically radahn was in on it. He consented and knew mohg would be used and abused and didn't care.
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does this level guide still hold up?
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So is just meant to be some ADHD femboy that starts projects then drops them?
>>484328437
Bigger area lets you buff Summons/Ashes
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>>484330182
Same with Sekiro, really
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>>484330009
>CONTENT CREATOR AND/OR E-CELEB IS ABOUT TO DO THE THING
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next dlc needs to explain who radagon really is and who the godskins were skinning
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>>484330019
>turned ashes into shit
>people just spam jump button instead but R1 deals too little damage
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>>484330182
ds3 weaponarts were mostly only useful for pvp and not worth using in pve
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>>484330009
Who cares, hes a fag
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>>484330202
And Pidia is the one controlling him.
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post your motherfuckers once again
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>>484330304
Radagon is explained pretty well if you realize Miquella is a parallel of Marika.
Radagon is just a discarded part of Marika, which is why he longed to be complete and appeared out of nowhere. Like St trina he also embodies self love (why he wants to be complete) but also Marika's love to the golden order.
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>>484330265
yes
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>>484330019
Two years ago I would have called you a fag, however I recently picked up Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne. After having played those for a bit I now have a much better appreciation for the basic knight attacks without spamming like you said.

Therefore I agree. Never thought I would, but I do.
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After seeing Leda rolling with a crew of recurring NPCs, I'm hoping From's next RPG gives players the option to recruit and build their own team of persistent NPC battle buddies. I don't care if it means "I didn't beat the game," I like jolly cooperation and wish I could do more stuff with the friendly NPCs.
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>>484330394
>Pidia was trying to date rape Ranni through Selivus
>Because? Nobody knows.
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>Great Katanas have hyperarmour
Why
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>Get an opening on Radahn with a slow weapon
>He starts his light attack halfway through
>IFRAMES LMAO
I can't believe people defend this fight.
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>>484330009
Stop trying to force this loser
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>decide to finally level an int build after meaning to do so for a long time
>always quit early cause I got bored of hucking blue rocks by lvl 40
>reach lvl 60 still using glintstone pebble
>none of the cool spells worth using
>thinking of quitting the int life AGAIN
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>>484330513
they're great
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>>484330513
They don't. It's just the red one that makes u take more damage but gives you retard hyperarmor.
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Is there any significance behind the resemblance between the hornsent granny and the finger readers?
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>>484330528
Nobody defends this fight, and the people that have no hit him fight him in a such a way that it skips all the most annoying attacks he has. Ergo, they didn't beat him.
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>>484330505
Because Pidia is an Albinauric and his dick doesn't work
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>>484330505
the servant wants to be the master
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>>484327935
Oh hey it's Whirligig but the moveset isn't as cool.
I hope the next FROM game has like 12 weapons but they're super deep like in Bloodborne, rather than 800 Straight Swords with a different crouch r1 and AoW.
>>484330304
>Next DLC
>Radahn is the final boss AGAIN
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Are Selvius' puppets concious/aware?
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>>484330578
Get the Bullgoat Talisman, a greatsword of your choice and Carian Grandeur.
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>>484330528
stop overcompensating and pick up a medium shield
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>>484330738
>I hope the next FROM game has like 12 weapons but they're super deep like in Bloodborne, rather than 800 Straight Swords with a different crouch r1 and AoW.
Each new weapon should feel meaningful and unique. I agree.
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>>484330631
Literally just dueled someone using the dragon one. They have hyperarmour.
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The answer is probably no but I gotta ask, does Dragonwound stuff affect players that used the Rock/Priestess heart?
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>>484330578
I had the most fun as an int build as a level 20 with +0 weapons figuring out how to cheese bosses or stacking so much damage that I would 1 shot bosses with +0 weapons.
It was a lot of fun if you like that sort of thing.

Also you should use more melee spells like slicer, hammer, cannon, piercer.
>inb4 they arent mana effective
At that point if you ever play a faith build you should only ever use catch flame.
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Best ending for a breast enjoyer?
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>>484330410
Nice ass bottom left.
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>>484330752
They're stuck in their own heads, helplessly watching as their bodies do things against their will
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>>484330738
Was the Whirligig Saw actually good? I played Bloodborne twice but I never touched it.
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This game has a power discrepancy problem for me. I either feel completely OP or weak as fuck depending on my build. Something like a shield poke build is so strong it's boring, then if I try to use some fun weapon I find I get btfo'd.
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>>484330860
Rellana Twin Blades. It comes from a big boobie woman.
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Why does Radahn's pull-weapon-from-ground animation have the same earth-breaking animation as his stomp animation but you have to jump the stomp and the weapon pull kills you if you jump
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>>484330838
I'm talking about pvp, the damage on the WA is a bit overtuned
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>>484330884
I want to drink Selvius' Potion
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>>484330502
That's just Dragon Dogma, but fromsoft edition.
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>>484330860
Anything with Marika since Ranni is flat.
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>>484330860
None. Breasts don't exist in the Lands Between.
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Man this thing is fun. Also I don't know why there are people saying the Arrow's Reach Talisman doesn't work with the Smithscript weapons; playing with it equipped for just five minutes will make the difference in damage drop-off and travel distance immediately apparent. The only question I have is does the Arrow's Soaring Sting Talisman increase it's damage?
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>>484330848
What weapon are you using and what armor were they using? Only the red one should have hyperarmor, that's it's entire gimmick.
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>Church of Vows absolution will let you resume Ranni's quest if you tried to date rape her
Holy shit I didn't know that
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>>484330738
>people like a character and draw fanart based on lines of flavor text
>FROM removes it
Remember not to like something too much or Miyazaki might remove it

>>484330896
It's fun. Big heavy, STR chainsaw.
It's not broken by any means like the Knight Sword (forgot the name) but it's the 2nd best STR weapon.
All the Bloodborne weapons were really cool and fun.
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>>484330502
It wouldn't be a problem if they actually balance it properly.
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Fuck marika, fuck melina and fuck melania. Carian women until the day I die. They are perfection incarnate.
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>>484331041
2H greatsword. They were wearing Leda's set.
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>>484331093
>Eat the eggs
You're a special kind of human being, you know that?
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>>484331093
It is only HYOOman to commit a sin...
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>>484331191
>Fuck marika, fuck melina and fuck melania
will do
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>>484330896
It's pretty good. Deceptively fast weapon
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Forgot image.
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>>484331191
>Fuck marika
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I'm not sure if it was placebo but I think assassin's gambit works on those frenzy fuckers in the abyssal woods.
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>>484330978
what would your spirit ash do if i summoned you?
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>>484331214
I never tried to date rape Ranni, and never accidentally aggroed NPCs in years so never needed an Oswald pardon
>>484331272
It is only human to SPIN
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>unused skibidis carry over to NG+
Do the ones you already used carry over too?
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>>484331039
From what I've tested, nope.
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>>484328734
What armor/chest is that?
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>>484331461
*sip*
they just don't make em like they used to
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>>484330335
>slight increase to mana cost would make ashes shit
No it would just stop people spamming them as much without leveling any mind.
Take the most basic ash Square off.
You throw that out and at +25 you can hit for 2-3k easily.
That's substantially more than a straightsword hit, so why should you ever use the Straightsword R1 if you can just press Square Off until the boss is dead?
There needs to be a change to ashes because PVE and PVP is just pressing the Ashes of War button and winning every fight.
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is there anything I should remember to do before visiting the plateau? any quests I can fuck up?
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>>484331471
Yes. You keep your blessing level.
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Is there a trick to dodging Midra's phase transition attack, or am I just that bad at timing things? I eat shit every single time.
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>>484331583
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fguide-all-npc-quests-endings-w-points-of-failure-and-v0-qeaptbjyo2oa1.png%3Fwidth%3D6256%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D7e77b040b0801b6916e3310d15187c6356469b0e
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>>484331635
I just ran away.
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>>484331662
What the fuck is that link lol?
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>>484331635
run away from it and dodge at the last second
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>>484331442
Idk
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>>484330578
Death’s Poker
Kill Deathbird by Gowry’s by either Rock Sling (stick to the skull eye where attacks can’t reach) or Holy Pots
Min Strength and Dex Requirements, spam Ghostflame
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>>484331570
>so why should you ever use the Straightsword R1 if you can just press Square Off until the boss is dead?
problem is that even if you increase the cost, people will still use Square Off because the R1 is so shit in this game especially when the opening is only small enough for 1-2 hits. Even if you remove Ashes, people will use anything else, but R1 like jump or strong attack which actually build stagger better than R1.
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>>484331559
banished knight farum azula edition
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Faithbros when do I stop leveling Faith? 60? 72? I love using Flame Spear on this thing with Flame Art infusion), and I want my incantation casts to at least deal some damage. But then I suppose I have to invest in Mind, too...
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>>484331852
excluding R1 bleed for obvious reasons.
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>>484327696
Nah they cutout stuff to save for the elden ring TV show
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>>484331978
what legs are those?
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Recommendations for a "Royal Alchemist" character build? Heavy armor or light? Magic or no?
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>>484331978
>But then I suppose I have to invest in Mind, too
The FP regen talisman alleviates this somewhat if you intend to focus on melee instead of casting.
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>>484332118
light armour
yes magic
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Oh, I see why Blind Spot is broken in pvp now.
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>>484332065
I think that would be a terrible idea. Once they get into the whole TV and movie industry thing they expose themselves to the fucking Jews. Just think about how Amazon fucked up Lord of the Rings or how Netflix fucked up The Witcher..
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>>484332118
Perfume bottles and throwing pots.
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Are the fingernail spells any good?
What about the creepy finger staff that less you cast anything?
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>>484332079
Solitude legs from the Black Gaol Knight

>>484332189
Oh yeah I keep forgetting that thing exists.
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>>484330738
what do you have against ghiza's wheel?
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>>484328225
the dlc gave a bunch of castlevania rp stuff. throw knives, throw axe, chakram for the cross.
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>>484332065
>TV show adaptation
>lore is full of ginger demigods
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>>484332234
Honestly should have gone for an anime and had Netflix make their shitty adaptation later.
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since the dlc release I can no longer get backstabs on people in pvp
idk what the deal is there but every one of them whiffs now
anyone else experience this?
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>>484331747
Thanks, that helped.
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Be honest with yourself anon.
In your heart you know that St. Trina is better than Miquella.
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>>484332447
At least with anime they can lean on Japan to do most of the work down there and just translate whatever needs to be translated for mainstream appeal.
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Radahn is this game's only successful STR/INT user
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>Miquella wants Radahn for the ritual because he's strong
>entire plan only works if Malenia is so much stronger than Radahn that she can fight through the entire continent, cut through Radahn's elite and vastly numerically-superior army on their home turf, fight through his elite personal guard of curved greatsword knights, and then beat Radahn in a fight after all of that, all while also holding back her Super Saiyan mode
>[she successfully does all this btw]

why didn't this retard just marry his sister instead

>he overestimated radahn

if Malenia >>>>> Radahn isn't already presumed by him to be true then the plan is a nonstarter
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>>484332569
Miquella wanted Radahn for his kindness, not just his strength.
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>>484332565
Do the physical spells scale with str?
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So have any of you tested "Blindfold of Happiness" from the Lementer's Visage out in PvP? What's it do?
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>>484332408
>animated
>Malenia will be voiced by a black woman
>everyone will complain about redhead erasure
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>>484331978
Ideally you want to go to 80 at least, it depends on your level restrictions.
I've read that the Dryleaf Seal has pretty good numbers at low FTH levels(up to 50, which is also the softcap for elemental infusions).
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>>484332675
Would Radahn be kind enough to have spared Godrick if he insulted Leonard?
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>>484330410
I can't stay fashionable and also at 51 poise
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>>484332839
>80
>at least
You level faith higher than 80? that doesn't sound right.
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>>484332758
Dashiki, Pan of Niggeria.
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>>484332758
I genuinely wonder how many people know that Malenia is voiced by a black VA
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this fight is terrible but at least it's over
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>>484332681
idk i don't personally use his stuff
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>>484332569
Malenia had an army too
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>>484333019
>DOUBLE chicken legs
not even close to beating the game
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Say something nice about my wife and her feet please.
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how do you dodge Radahns phase 2 rock throw? I can dodge the rocks but after that, after images start slamming down and killing me and I've never dodged it once
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I enjoyed all of it.
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HOW DO YOU DODGE PHASE 2 RADAHN'S ATTACKS WTF
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Elden Ring character designers be like
>Yeah, I know what humans look like
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>>484330410
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>>484332569
Radahn is a reusable, ecologically friendly nuke, as his phase 2 shows. Dropping Malenia on a motherfucker runs the risk of rendering the land unusable after the conquest is done. Miquella wants a kingdom, not a wasteland.
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>>484333169
Which ones? The only attack that's rng and not 100% learnable is the phase 1 cross slash.
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>>484333137
game kinda wants you to back up a little bit diagonally before the afterimages show up... when i beat him yesterday i only managed to dodge it twice without getting hit
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>>484333019
are those weapons farmable from the mole rats that wield them?
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>>484330410
>>484331978
I think I look pretty good.

>>484333012
Patches VA is also black, same with Eileen's VA.
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>>484333137
Running to 5 o clock works for me and jumping as he slams down works for me
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Only 5 tries in and Jee is already manually banning messages in chat
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>>484333280
you can only get double plap weapons pre-patch I think, I had them on my save early
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How would you feel if Melina was like an actual companion, maybe like something you could summon with the spirit caller?
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>>484332962
The Erdtree Seal tanks hard after 80, but other seals like the Giants keep scaling up to 99, and at that point using 2x Giants to cast incantations boosted by it surpasses a 80 FTH Erdtree Seal by quite a bit.
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>>484333193
>Humans
Messmer is a demigod
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>>484330528
Radahn is near universally hated or at least though of as disappointing
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>>484333254
how do you deal with the cross slash in phase 2?
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Can I get a list of /erg/ approved content creators?
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GIANT WOMEN
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>>484333495
lmao
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>>484333495
for me, it's sane ryan
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>>484333379
Hmmm I believe you then, I've just never seen anyone level Faith to 99 outside of pure casters. But maybe I'll fiddle around with that later using Larval Tears, thanks. Currently using the Erdtree Seal so that's good to know.
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>>484329139
>there is no holy perfume
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>>484330112
what about greatshields in the base game?
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>>484333495
no
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why did Ranni do an elaborate plot involving the literal manifestation of Death in physical form to separate her soul from her body when this DLC tells us that separating bodies and souls just happens automatically when someone dies because their soul goes to the Shadow Land? Was she stupid?
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>>484333546
theres no way I'm a fucking 5'6 manlet...
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>>484333495
Steve1989MRE
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>>484333495
for me, it's smoughtown when i'm falling asleep
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Some of the fucking mobs in this DLC feels harder than DaS 3 bosses
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>>484333593
The tranny enthusiasts?
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>>484333286
Emerald Herald as well
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>>484333546
What is the source of Marika's size?
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>fight my way into redmane castle
>enemies everywhere
>finally find a goddamn site of grace
>enter boss room
>first dude is manageable
>then a giga nigger knight joins in and slaps my shit
>doh well time for coop
>the coop cross is on the other fucking side of the castle
next level bullshit
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>>484333546
idk what 5'6" is but I'm 166cm
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>>484333115
A much smaller army, there are like 20 Redmane swords in that battlefield for every set of Cleanrot armor.
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>>484333410
>marika - hot
>melina - hot
>malenia - hot
>ranni - hot
>godwyn - male model
>miquella - boymode twink
>Radahn - gigachad
>messmer - deformed freak
It's no wonder Marika banished him to the shadow realm.
Regardless. It works for many FS designs other than Messmer. A lot of them are long limbed freaks.
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I'm just gonna post this so people will stop asking the same question 500 times forever

There is an ayylmao on the other side of the gate of divinity.
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>>484330265
>recommending higher scaled areas before lower scaled ones
really makes you think
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>>484333495
https://www.youtube.com/@tarnishedarchaeologist
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/94037210
that's it
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>>484333805
Pretty sure this is a combination of a divine tuning fork and a ham radio to space.
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>>484333805
got any pics?
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>>484332707
It works exactly like other stealth abilities. It just makes you slightly transparent by overlaying a filter that does a very bad job of making you less visible, and slightly reduces the max range you can be locked on at. In
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How do you imagine a Godwyn fight? I'm thinking Godfrey + Radagon.
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>>484333742
You can bypass that fight by triggering the festival.
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>>484333864
No zullie, or maybe quelaag?
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>>484333787
Messmer seems to be attractive to real world women.

>>484333720
her game model.
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>>484332569
Malenia is unsuitable due to her rot.
Ironically, radahn is also unsuitable due to now being an omen
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>doing some invasions on my level 40 as i'm leveling to get some rune arcs
>raya lucaria crystal tunnel
>summon is, of course, a disgustingly overleveled password summon, but that's fine
>the host and his password summon are ignoring every enemy in the level like i'm wearing eau de toddler and they're pit bulls, but that's fine
>hunter summoned
>mfw it's some absolute fucking faggot who CE'd in the DLC gear for themselves at level 40 and just spams L2 with the smithscript shield and Leda's sword
fucking rope yourself you worthless piece of shit. god i fucking hate blues so much.

i won by the way, turns out ignoring every enemy is a great way to get yourself killed
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>>484333896
many basilisks
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>>484333605
I can do it at level 166 while having some armor and low req weapons, but It's still a bit limiting, I do it mostly because I like to one shot people with Giantsflame.
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>>484333896
ludwig but a fish/mermaid monster instead of a horse monster
and then in phase 2, he gets his humanity back and his posture is upright.. idk what weapon he'd pull out though
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>>484330578
int is only fun once you build up 40 mind and don't give a shit about fp anymore so you just spam cannon of haima, dark moon, and comet azure
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>>484333896
Godwyn wouldn't fight you, he seems like the chill one.
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Did I just play myself by giving the Prophet dude the Prayer books he calls "Heretical"? Like am I gonna lose him as a vendor at some point?
I see everyone giving the books to the giant turtle.

>>484332328
It's Whirligig but not as good.
Like, FROM trying to reference something they did themselves but worse. A parody of itself
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>>484333896
Duo fight with an ancient dragon in a giant pool of water
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I really despise how attacks are balanced in the DLC. Something like Miquella's Light is super easy to avoid and gives a gigantic punish window. Same with Radahn's purple tornado
But then he can also do a highly damaging purple slash into flight into meteors into multiple afterimage slashes into a slam into light pillars and if you flub this combo it 1shots you from 100% and has a smaller punish window than the other two while being much harder to avoid.

The balance in this fight is completely fucked. Why does he need i-frames on his attacks? Why does he need 20+ seconds of invincibility?
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>>484333896
Wouldn't it be funny if he rolled around like a spaz like Godrick?
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>>484332569
this makes me wonder, Maliketh can definitely beat Godfrey right?
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>>484333941
zullie videos are neat but tend to drag on too much
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>>484333648
pla rations proc scarlet rot irl
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>>484333254
The clone attacks are fucking impossible
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>>484330856
>At that point if you ever play a faith build you should only ever use catch flame.
discus of light would like to have a word with you
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Why does this douchebag attack you (twice) if you both serve Ranni?
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>>484333254
Basically any of the afterimage shit.
>drops from the sky, always rollcatches me and then I get fucked by explosions
>tons of them even if I can avoid them without taking that much damage are unpunishable
Just feels very strict and unfun, not even using a slow weapon
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>>484333782
Not shitting on the redmanes but cleanrots > redmane knights right? They're a more elite force. The redmane knights are same as the various other knight enemies, while cleanrots stand above. At least I always assumed.
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I got halfway through my DLC playthrough for my second character, is it over for me?
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>>484334257
Gameplay contrivance
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>>484327915
>>484332065
The show will be such a sucess that they will make a DLC based on it.
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>>484333920
how do i do that?
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>>484332839
>80 at least
you mean 80 at most
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>>484334304
What's the issue exactly?
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>>484334050
>low req weapons
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO GIVE UP MY BELOVED FIRE KNIGHT GREATSWORD
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>>484334158
I'd argue it's Whirligig but better, but it's objectively a one trick pony so I can't blame you. It's just really fucking good at that one trick and that more than makes up for it in my opinion.
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>>484334257
He just doesn't like you. There's no deep lore reason for it. Sometimes, it's okay to just really hate somebody at first glance. He really doesn't like the idea of you being Ranni's consort either, like an overprotective, murderous father.
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>"Let's see how invasions are tonight"
>3 dudes who already cleared all the enemies gangrape me
>immediately go do something else
I'll never forgive from for ruining invasions this badly
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>>484332408
>make point about gingers getting blackwashed on TV
>Redman too lost his red hair
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>>484334363
Go to Altus or I think collecting 2 great runes.
I usually go to Altus first anyways for golden seeds.
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>>484332569
>why didn't this retard just marry his sister instead
she can't gape him the way radahn can
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>>484331635
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Blocking is so good :3
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>>484334165
The more you think about that fight the less sense it makes
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>>484334430
Abusing your magic is jewish
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>>484334165
Elden Ring generally has small punish windows for the big flashy instakill attacks but long punishes for random attacks the boss uses whenever

Just look at Malenia, Waterfowl isn't punishable by most weapons but her uppercut-downslash lets you do a fully charged R2.
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why is there a solid 25 seconds where I cannot hit the boss at all and I get a small opening after
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>>484333962
I think Malenia looks more attractive than her mom.
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>>484334372
I'm so fucking bored, I don't have any will to invade because the system didn't change and the few invasions I got were the most frustrating shit ever, co op is fucking awful because I'm getting one tapped and the solo PvE is actually mediocre as fuck, I think the open world was a fucking mistake, after the first playthrough it just becomes a checklist
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>>484334257
They should bring back DS1 style covenants, and there should be some mobs tied to the covenants that don't attack you if you're part of their covenant.
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I wonder if there was any significance to where saint trina is, game never really explains what was in those giant coffin ships. Or why they are all stuck in that fissure, and isn't the lake at the bottom supposed to be all the "corpse drippings" from whatever is in those coffins? Congealed putrescence seems to indicate it as such.
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>Enir-Ilim would be the perfect invasion zone thanks to the midboss-tier horned warriors
>but it's already been turned into the shitter fortress of taunter ganks just hiding in tiny rooms with the newest meta cancer and the map already cleared.
Welp, we really can't have nice things
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>>484334417
just bite them
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>>484334554
>the seraph manga back story on Detroit Emiya
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We still fight clubbing or what
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>>484334601
Start rushing main bosses or take a break and only play an hour a day or something.
I also started to get exploration fatigue like 30 hours in.
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>>484330578
who actually plays int like this
the only pebble you chuck in pve is shard spiral. the rest is carian slicer, bow, cannon, and ashes of war.
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>>484332408
>mohg is literally black and got gingerwashed
sasuga miyazaki
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>>484332569
>But she's his sister!
Miquella clearly doesn't care about incest
>But the rot!
Why not just place her soul into a different body? Radahn having the Formless Mother's stuff shows that Outer God influence seems to affect your physical form instead of your soul.
>He wanted Radahn because he was kind!
Was Malenia not kind? She even fully believed in his vision and was probably his biggest supporter.
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>>484332408
>>484334430
OH NO NO NO....
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>>484334641
Isn’t there a spirit that says something along the lines of “people used to ride in coffins to find eternal sleep”?
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>>484334304
i had 3 characters built up to take to the DLC but no way i'm doing that shit more than once.
if i could rush legacy dungeons and the bosses that'd be fine. even radahn is cool with me. i just don't want to hunt these gay scadutree fragments again
>inb4 cheat engine
on ps5
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>>484333787
Messmer is a tortured bishonen mama's boy. Plus his serpentine nature will make chicks wet
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>>484334664
Taunter's Tongue is the worst thing they ever did to Invasions, worse than the DS2 Seed of a Tree of Giants
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>>484327629
wife
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I'm trying to help people with the Hippo but I'm taking like half my health from some attacks, what the fuck?
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>>484333787
Are you retarded?
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>>484332569
Because at some point in development it was Godwyn he want to rez but it was changed.
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>>484334960
Never been the case.
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>>484334916
The hosts scooby snack level is too low.
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>>484334257
She is a dr*ke
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>start complaining about radahn phase 2
>win
HAHAHA COMPLAIN MAGIC WINS AGAIN
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>>484334936
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>>484316978
No it did not change, dumb fuck
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>>484334601
>generally enjoy open world games
>get open world fatigue
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>>484334601
that's why you go to ng+ and just do a boss train instead
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>>484334960
It was never implied in anyway shape or form his plan was to revive Godwyn, when even the item descriptions had Miquella wishing for Godwyn to die a true death
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>>484334674
i wish my hosts were retarded enough to run straight into my long ass startup incantation casts
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>>484334674
WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?
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>>484335106
maybe get a job or something. when you work for a living and only have a few hours a day to play vidya, you don't get that fatigue at all.
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Do you prefer the ds1/2/3 type of story
>hero's journey
>except in a tragic land
>empire/kingdom long since fallen, nobody there to rule
>desperate attempt at keeping the world alive
or the elden ring type of story
>political drama
>power struggle
>different ideologies fighting for the throne
>there are no heroes, there are no good people, there is only power
>the world is uncaring and will go on long after the power struggle ends and everyone is dead
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it's like they spent most of their time making the most unnecessary bullshit base game boss fights annoyingly hard, and develop most other bosses blindfolded.

this shit's stupid.
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>>484334674
The bite has Hyper Armor?
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>>484335098
Nigga I LITERALLY just finished a playthrough with it on ps5, which prior to the calibration used the broken 16 intelligence and now uses 19 arc.
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>>484332262
>>484332224
I wish there was sleep magic.

How about Faith Dex with a bit of Int for Golden Order spells? I'm like to use the knock out sword but idk how useful it is
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>want to get gavel
>need to fight dog
>minute long walk of shame
>waste mana to sneak through
>finally get to fight
>dash across entire screen
>oneshot on any hit
>instant bites that 2hit you
this bossfight isnt fun. how do i cheese it?
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>>484334664
>LOL LET'S MAKE INVASIONS BECOME INVITATIONS YOU RIKE XDDDD
What was this cunt thinking
Also it's insane how every ganker is just spamming swift slash in closed spaces, fucking cancer dude, I want to say the invasion system is done for but there's retards out there still engaging with this shit
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>>484335013
Cheese aside, that fragment system is the biggest reason why shield builds are so popular for the DLC.
Greatshields allow a phantom to tank the same way regardless if the host's level is 0 or 20.
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So is Impenetrable Thorns the new best Faith spell for cooping? These DLC bosses have such high health that bleed seems to be the best option as a coop phantom.
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>no fanart
>no fanfiction, not even of the rapey degenerate kind that fujos love
>even the biggest fromdrones think it was a lackluster conclusions narratively
>gameplay wise most people seem to agree that it's a fucking visual and mechanical mess that has shit performance to boot

How would you salvage Radahnquella? You can do minor lore changes or add new information but the core aspect of the fight (Miquella really wants to fuck Radahn and stuffed his soul in Mohg's body, you also can't change the base game) must remain the same
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summon bros anyone used Taylew Swift?
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>>484335253
I generally don't get that fatigue either for other open world games or the base game.
I don't know why, but the DLC is just one big fatigue for me.
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>>484335256
i think the former works better for their type of game
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>>484335253
man this is bullshit, I gamed way more when I was a neet and barely play shit nowadays
because even on my days off I feel like I can't enjoy long games that you want to invest and immerse yourself in because of the fucking doomsday countdown of the next day of work perpetually in my head ruining all enjoyment
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>>484335423
I completely discard it
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>>484335272
>valiant garg seethe
Rage kino.
come back later or use summoning ashes. They’re defending a higher level area.
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Where are Thoillier and Ansbach after you beat Radahn?
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>>484335423
Slow his attacks by like 30% and maybe it won't be a clusterfuck. Midra and Bayle are proof that you don't need it to be a ballbuster for it to be memorable and fun.
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>>484335423
bro maybe you should go search for that shit before you declare it doesn't exist, lmao
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You know this only just made me realize that like the giant Godwyn corpse is weird, he was normal sized in the intro cutscene. Did he become giant after death, do demigods just have vairable size, why is that?

>>484335256
I think I like Elden Ring having multiple different "paths" of the story to explore and see like what different factions were up to, it gives a lot more depth to talk about and perspectives to learn about each time.
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>>484335256
The former works really weird with Miyazaki storytelling.
The latter only works if you intend on writing a novel.
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>>484335550
in the arena dead
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>>484335429
probably because of all the verticality i'd assume. hard to figure out how to get where you want to go in a lot of cases. once you get all of the bonfires it's fine though. the environments are beautiful so i just like to smoke a bowl while just hanging out and looking at the pretty graphics.
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>>484334960
This. The biggest giveaway is radahn's soul
The base game firmly establishes that the souls of those in the golden order remain in their bodies, because destined death is sealed. Their bodies are returned to the tree roots and recycled, and their souls are reborn. This is so ironclad that Ranni needed to steal a piece of Destined Death to free her soul from her body.
The Miquella plot hinges on Radahn's soul being on the other side of the Gate of Divinity. But that makes no sense. Radahn's soul is with his body, which was taken by Alexander and then passed to us when Alexander died. Radahn's soul isn't in the Gate of Divinity, it's in your fucking talisman slot.

Retrieving a soul from beyond only makes sense if that soul had a special death that separated it from its body--ie Godwyn.

It's absolutely certain that Radahn was written into the conclusion last minute, and the story bent and distended to try and accommodate it. That's also why the Radahn fight is obviously unfinished
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>>484335423
Un ironically besides the fps drops the fight is not THAT bad. Bar the shadow clones he gets and like extra follow ups he's still doing the same move from p1. The biggest issue imo is miquellas fucking hair holy shit. When I do a roll and get like 2 r1's from behind I feel like I'm just guessing/reacting because I cannot fucking see his arms from the angel.
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>>484335604
Wtf
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>>484330738
>Oh hey it's Whirligig but the moveset isn't as cool.
>I hope the next FROM game has like 12 weapons but they're super deep like in Bloodborne
As if that could guard counter. Bloodborne weapons aren't deep. They are much worse and lack the utility and usefulness that in Elden Ring each weapon has, they are just completely replaceable canned combos for eye candy that also axe your left hand options.
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>>484335423
Firs tof all, there is for a bunch of those
Second of all, it hasnt been that long, give it time
Third of all, the answer is to make Prime Radahn more androgynous
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>>484335296
"Nigga", it doesn't. You're retarded, but from having a PS5, that was apparent
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>>484335423
Miquella only became obsessed with Radahn AFTER he proved he could beat Malenia in a fight. He does all the reviving, but this Radahn is objectively a meat puppet.
Then in the actual fight trim Miquella's hair holy shit, slow down the light beams and teleportations, and make it less of a fucking eyesore.
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>>484335591
there might be different paths but they are all dogmas and ideologies
each of the power hungry demigods and their servant humans have no personalities outside of what they believe in
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What is your favorite dragon bossfight in fromsouls /erg/?
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>>484335730
Miquella wanted Radahn as a consort since they were both young. It’s in the remembrance description.
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>>484335563
Nobody likes this shit, one of these is just Mohg fucking Miq in the ass while he cums thinking about Radahn, one is a glorified Ranni fic, and the other is Malenia/Radahn incest
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>>484335370
>small room with nowhere to maneuver
>host in virdigris with bleed swift slash
>phantom in virdigris with golden crux
Every invasion.
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>>484335830
I never figure out how the filter function on that website especially for niche ship
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>>484334593
Reminder to always use protection.
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>>484335830
>Malenia/Radahn incest
I rather would've had that
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>>484335768
Mhmm thats what I meant
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>turn on taunter's tongue
>swift slash
>swift slash
>swift slash
>swift slash
>swift slash
>oh hey this guy isn't usi-oh never mind he had backhand blades in his pocket for when he started losing
>swift slash
>swift slash
>turn off taunter's tongue
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>>484335479
get a job you enjoy. it's one of the secrets of happiness. that's your problem. i solder and test electronics for a corporation and i love it. figure out how much money you can live off of and get a job that fits that. figure out what you like and then fit that into what jobs are available.

if you're low IQ i can't help you, though. that's unfixable.
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>>484335540
i beat it

still bullshit
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tranny hosts have discovered smithscript shield L2, it's over
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>>484335370
i was an uber tryhard invasion autist in ds3 and gave up a month after release. they really botched it this game.

i've been invading this week just for the new stuff but it's boring and mindless. either i one-shot them with some retarded AoW or they one shot me.
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>>484335694
The fight would be perfect if they fixed performance, gave Mike a haircut, and Radahn was like 2 feet shorter.
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>>484335145
just keep spamming it until it works
>>484335281
yes a fuck ton, only thing that'll cancel it is a status proc
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>bunch of cool new dragonfucker shit
>not even a single faith/arcane weapon
>no dragon claws
yuck
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>>484335931
i'm not like the other invaders, babe

>>484334664
how? do they just leave the boss up? i seriously hate the gank mentality in elden ring, it's so fucking gay. i'm doing invasions while i progress through the game
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>>484335931
Can't you just WoG the shitters?
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how strong are greatshields in the base game?
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I keep posting art here, only to get it reccomended to me on twitter, and then check and realize that someone already posted it before
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>>484336021
>Shield niggers don't get staggered out and die
nerf shields when
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>>484335723
https://imgur.com/a/Uy0ctag
ONCE AGAIN NIGGA, I LITERALLY DID A PLAYTHROUGH WITH THIS WEAPON.
>>484335819
they asked how I would salvage Radahnquella, that was how I'd fix it while keeping Miquella wanting to bang Radahn.
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>Radhan phase 2 light nuke is easily escapable at normal framerate and literally impossible if you drop frames
true for many of his moves, I wonder how much of this fight is borked simply due to frame dropping
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>>484335995
>>484335694
But if we cut his hair he'll look less like Godwyns lion.
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Pshhh... It took Jee less than an hour to beat Radahn...
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>>484335932
>get a job you enjoy
lack the urge to start interest even if I like it and that include gaming too.
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>>484335921
Having the battle be a glorified lover's quarrel where Malenia ends their relationship with the demigod equivalent of shitting in Radahn's bed would've been funny at least
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>>484336051
>post autosubmitted while i was in the middle of typing
wut? i meant to say i'm invading while i progress (i still only have 3 talisman slots) and even at 40 +7 it's complete fucking cancer. it's just nothing but password phantoms with shiny new L2 sticks, backhand blades, rolling sparks perfumes, bone bow, etc. etc. etc.
it's unplayable, and i mean that in the literal sense that you just cannot play the fucking game. if you press buttons you WILL get hit by swift slash, blind spot, or some form of projectile spam.

>>484336069
strong, as they have always been
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>>484336046
>The 2 new dragon incantations are complete dogshit.
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>>484335256
to be fair, the hero's journey is the core story of humanity. it's a story we can hear a million different ways but still want to hear it again, because it's effectively the meaning of life. it's not surprising why it's so popular, whether it's Luke Skywalker or Harry Potter or Jesus.
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>like a 20 minute long invasion with some fucking v-tuber where I kill like three blues and her co-op partner
>this is the shit that does me in
THIS GAME'S PVP IS SO FUCKING TERRIBLE I HATE IT. 15 YEARS AND THESE FUCKING SLANTY-EYED NEEDLE DICKS STILL TELL THE GAIJIN TO GET FUCKED EVEN THOUGH WE MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THEIR SALES.
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Been playing my first rl1 lately, taken down Margit, Leonine Miss, Godrick, Draconic tree sentinel and currently stuck at Godfrey, with only me and my claymore (also a bunch of the repeated bosses in Caelid n Peninsula for stuff)
Avice for a first time rl1? Also, its actually the first time im having fun in this game since being oneshot is a feature instead of the game having terrible balance
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>>484336098
thrusting shields are bugged
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>>484336183
He's still a fucking retard
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>>484336062
WoG?
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>>484336046
we got a new dragon communion hammer but it's also dogshit
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>>484336295
Wrath of the Gods
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>>484336287
Hardswappers are so fucking stupid
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>>484336287
Why is this okay but more players isn't
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>>484336246
it's 2024 and people STILL haven't figured this out? or are these just the new kids doing PvP for the first time? we all know invasions suck in ER, catch up.
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>>484336279
How so?
And I bet fingerprint survives that.
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>>484335805
Bayle and it's not even close.
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>>484336046
bro your dogshit spear with flame/sacred infusion?
jokes aside you got TWO dragon forms, shut up
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>>484336338
why exactly would wrath of the gods work?
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>>484336327
>new dragon cult hammer
ftfy
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>>484336403
CURSE YOU BAYLE
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>>484336340
How do you look at that video and only pick out hardswapping instead of the fucking seizure inducing spamfast currently going on
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>>484336424
it has an ARC requirement
dragon cult has 0 things that use arc
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What were they thinking?
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>>484336187
you gotta figure that out then, no one else can do it for you. watch some of jordan peterson's lectures on the psychological significance of the biblical stories, that will unironically help you. you've got nothing to lose, whatever your prejudices, since you already sound like a nihilistic atheist.
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gonna respec to strength the smith script hammer looks so fucking fun, give me your hardest hitting weapons that breaks poise like a bitch
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>>484335805
It was midir until bayle. That has to be the new bar for their super dragon fights.
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>>484336287
>>484336492
>fucking around in your menus when the host and his phantoms are happy to swing into you during your spawning i-frames
Just fucking hit them.
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>>484336397
they have infinite guard boost during certain windows such as attacking from guard
on second look idk if it came into play there though
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Now that the honeymoon phase has worn of, I feel comfortable saying the level design in the main dungeons was super weak and really fell below the par set by previous games. I kept expecting to find a shortcut that would circle back around or something but they were all just linear paths through mob corridors with some detour rooms that never had loot worth the effort to explore them.
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>>484336518
haven't tried that yet
what's wrong with it?
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>>484336510
And dragon communion has nothing that does heavy lightning damage either
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>>484335423
play up the yandere angle and the fall from grace aspect of dlc miquella, use the abandoned body parts as little lore dumps to build it up over the course of the dlc. play it as an overt tragedy, where repeated setbacks lead to him slowly compromising his morals more & more, telling himself that he'll be able to fix it, fix it all, once he's in power, make the player feel his desperation. trina should also be more central, maybe even mandatory, the clash between two aspects of a god that's also the moral quandary. in that context, reviving radahn should be be the ultimate attempt to force things to go back to the way they were in an idealized childhood memory, a sad act of desperation that couldn't accomplish his true desire regardless of player intervention. this would also parallel with marika and how she was unable to save her home.
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>invading in ruin-strewn precipice
>rune arc'd host in DLC armor
>eats crab
>buffs with golden vow
>rips drawstring rot grease
>is not able to hit me
>whips out swift slash backhand blades
>his password summon starts spamming discus hurl seriously what the fuck is the FP to damage ratio on this shit, i had to stop using it because it was so disgusting
dude come on
you know it's possible to play the game without being a massive nigger

>>484336397
guard frames increase their stability instead of decreasing it

>>484336518
that weapons with innate rot should not be that good, and they're right
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>>484334851
>hunt
you just pick them up naturally as you explore
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What are the new poise breakpoints for pvp? I haven't played in like 6 major updates.
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How'd you have written her questline?
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>>484330818
No it shouldn't. Why the fuck would they do that? What if I want to access a bunch lf movesets in different builds with weapons that have different range, damage types and/or weapon skill.
You talk as if there wasn't an extreme lack of actual usefulness and mechanical difference between the majority of Bloodborne weapons and as if 90% of them weren't just worse versions of the first weapon your receive.
I like that I can take a Claymore or a Spear and make those weapons fire a magical beam of Fire because my character has Faith. It fits and actually ties with the ActionRPG components. I like that the Banished Knight Greatsword is STR oriented Knight Greatsword with same moveset, a bit shorter reach, higher stamina costs but higher damage, it fits how it looks chunkier and elegant and gives it an identity beyond muh moveset. If I wanted to play Bloodborne I would play Bloodborne, and the same goes for you.
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>>484335805
Overall, it's probably Placidusax
Bayle is definitely carried hard by summoning Igon which winds up being extremely obnoxious since his sign's inside the arena
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>>484336662
51, 81, 101
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>>484336625
Terrible at applying rot, mid damage, bad ash of war.
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>>484336630
it just got two lightning spells from Bayle
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>>484336492
because jee, who plays this game as a career, should know better than to waste his invulnerability i-frames against the light show swapping his helmet for a marginal fucking benefit. i expect nothing of casuals / gankers, all they know how to do is press L2 and teabag.
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>>484336652
tell us about your noble build, anon
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>>484336689
We get married.
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>>484336046
Embrace the awesomeness of the dryleaf dragon, beast claws are lame
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>ansbach incantation is bugged and his scythe is a pure dex weapon which is categorically inferior to a grave scythe
woe
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>>484336657
doubt you could pick up enough if you just rush legacy bosses
>pick them up naturally as you explore
>as you explore
>explore
absolutely not
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>>484335830
look on pixiv anon
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>>484336874
It has arc scaling too doesnt it? At least the ash is cool.
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>>484336874
grave scythe is a strength weapon doe
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>>484336874
What's the bug?
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>>484336885
it is truly your loss
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>>484336689
Literally just give her a the happy ending she would have had if she wasn't turned into a ball for no reason, but then again Miyazaki is physically incapable of writing a satisfying storyline that doesn't end in le tragedy
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>>484336423
It damages them & knocks them back
>>484336295
Wrath of Go(l)d. Or greyrolls roar
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>>484336931
it has some yeah, and the ash is 10/10 but I would have been happier to just have it by a scythe AoW we can unlock

>>484336953
occult grave scythe outbleeds and outdamages for less level investment

>>484336958
no bleed
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>>484336780
i'm trying to make a pure caster build. meteor staff with off-hand carian staff, my sidearm for when i'm out of FP is the dagger from sellen's quest. legitimately picked up all of my items. meanest spell i have is probably star shower. i don't even have 4 talisman slots yet, i'm just running soreseal and the godfrey / radagon icons.

i've come to the realization that this build is only going to get good once i hit 60 INT and have more mind, so i have carian regal scepter spinning weapon as a get-off-me button. i'm just shocked at the state of invasions, password phantoms, and blues in general. it fucking blows and it forces you into adopting AIDS playstyles yourself.
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>>484336761
>"lightning spells"
>the damage is a three split between lightning, fire, and physical
lol
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>>484337047
now how do you intend to react to swift slash with WoG before they stagger you
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>>484327915
There's no way they can leave godwyn and GEQ like this
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>>484336652
The thing I hate the most about Elden Ring PvP is that the escalation of tactics will always favor Hostcels in the end because the scumbag scrubs will all use cheese against you to counter any particular anti-gank you had or if you legitimately outskilled the guys.
That's why my preferred invasion spot was in the Draconic Tree Sentinel Area of Altus/Leyndell, because the Tree sentinel will ass rape a scaled down 713 phantom in two shots max and I'm usually right behind the boss to do any sort of clean up attempt. I've made hostcels waste hour plus of their time while they all hide in a corner trying to snipe me or something but they are to far away.
They could easily just disconnect but their entitlement and egos are so fucking massive they want the redman kill at all cost.
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>>484337175
Swift Slash has fuck all for stagger. You can poise through it and out-trade it by just standing your ground in a poise clownsuit. That's why everyone infuses it with bleed, but you can hard-counter bleed with the ailment talisman.
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>>484336689
Bro, if it was up to me you'd have an option to marry & breed every cute female in the game, I'm not even a coomer, but I believe it's a man's right to conquest hot fantasy babes like a Conan story
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>>484332569
traditional japanese values. i'm not kidding. ranni escapes the fate of being a woman, a vessel that exists to receive "seed" and propagate by making herself barren. but even then, robbed of her womb she needs to birth something of her own so she can't escape the fate of being a woman. miquella wants radahn over malenia because only men can be lords, only men can be beautiful, only men can be powerful.
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Could someone explain what the whole deal with Marika was at the end? She wanted an Elden Lord. In the roundtable hold, she tasked Hewg with creating a weapon to slay a god (which god? You didn't slay any gods as far as I can tell). After you burn the Erdtree Hewg and Roderika start to lose their memory. Roderika tells you to slay Marika, because she is responsible for 'all this'

But what actually happened at the end? Did we kill Marika by 'killing' Radagon? She was just a statue at the beginning of the last fight, and again at the end. Then she crumbled away. She had a spear in her side, not sure what the deal with that was either.

So basically what the fuck happened at the end there with Marika?

>She shatters the ring
>Radagon tries to repair it
>Something happened and Marika/Radagon are a statue within the erdtree, they look like they are prisoner, crucified with a spear in the side
>You burn the erdtree, and kill Radagon (why? why does he even attack you?)
>What became of Marika?
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>>484337308
same but for males as well
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What area has the best lighting? I like trying to get my armor to be as matching as possible. The color I mean.
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>>484336980
how so? bulk of the dlc is just reused assets. what few new assets they made are also reused to the point i literally never want to see them again, like those furnace golems or the hippos.
the artwork is pretty, but the only servicable parts of the DLC are the legacy dungeons. and i say this as someone who likes the game and likes the dlc.
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>>484336652
>>484337235
Seething redclitties
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>>484337175
I can't play the fucking game for you retard. Between a burst spell or AoW & your normal weapons/spells you should be able to punish them
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>>484336612
Yeah they're fucking lame, only Shadow Keep was interesting with all the secret areas. Catacombs were a big improvement though and I actually enjoyed going through them, now if only Miyazaki would learn that placing an imp to the side of every doorway/behind you as a gank gets old extremely quickly.
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How are you actually supposed to dodge the initial AoE of Metyr's twin laser that last a gorillion years? Is the only thing you can do run back a VERY far distance somehow, despite the move coming out so fast?
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>>484335805
Placidusax or Sinh
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>>484336989
>the war crimes Witch should have an happy ending because I'm a coomer
no
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>>484337283
>ailment talisman.
this the new one that gives you resistence to whatever you were last inflicted with? does it actually work in pvp?
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>>484336383
The problem is the invasion mechanic is legitimately cool and From is still somehow the only dev that does it right (even despite how barebones Elden Ring's multiplayer systems are), but they simultaneously refuse to improve their networking whatsoever. It's 2024 and the only functional matchmaking region they implement into their games is still their gay little retarded island while the rest of the world has to wrestle with the latency that comes with trying to fight someone playing from another continent.
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How come only the Smithscript hammer is good, and so much better than the other weapons?

Axe and Spear have a huge damage decrease with distance. Daggers have no range at all. Yet somehow the hammer has huge range, huge damage that doesn't change with distance, and it also knocks down and/or hits multiple enemies if they're lined up.

If it's a bug, I really hope they don't fix it.
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>>484337479
Move closer and the beam will pass over you. There's a sweetspot between the beam and the damage bubble around Metyr.
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>>484337413
>cant kill the evil redman on your own so you cope
Don't make me get on Seamless Co-Op and invade your shitter friends
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how good is the drill that will pierce the heaven ash of war against bosses?
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>>484337379
I mean, you kind of have a point
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>>484337382
You slew the Elden Beast.
>GOD SLAIN
when you beat him.
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>>484336989
The one where she tried to murder mind-broken Rennala? Bitch deserved what she got.
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>>484337550
Have you looked at it?
It's clearly mjolnir and is just lost in the lands between. Of course it's strong.
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>>484337235
what's funny is that every time invaders discover something that they think will do well against ganks, they neglect to acknowledge that ganks do literally everything better than they do. rolling sparks spam? easier to hit for ganks by far. swift slash spam? better for ganks. blind spot spam? better for ganks. and so on.
>tree sentinel
i invaded into ranni's area (with adula) earlier today and i was greeted by a host who had had 2 vyke's spears dropped for him, a chinese password phantom (god knows what level, but luckily he chose to fight adula), and another password phantom spamming messmer's homing flames and honed bolt. you can imagine just how much actually playing the video game i was allowed to do, but luckily adula bailed me out by 1-shotting the host (who had roughly 500 HP) with a single tail swipe. god bless enemies / bosses.

that's how fucked up elden ring invasions are fundamentally: i'm running for my life against a host who has 500 VIG because his friend can just spam magic at me with complete impunity, and if i stop him, his friend can run at me and spam dual vyke's with complete impunity.
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>>484337409
I figure I could list all the things I liked about it in terms of atmosphere, color themes, music, architecture, and scale, but we probably just appreciate different things
"reused assets" makes it sound like the relevant assets are all enemies
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>>484337467
I was surprised how much better these catacombs were in the dlc compared to base game.
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If I wanted to do a dragon build is it better to go all Arc or just go minimum Arc and level faith instead?
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>>484336989
It gets silly when literally every NPC dies just because.
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>>484337537
Yes. It gives you so much resistance it's borderline immunity so you just swap to it when you see a bleed nigger and as long as you survive the first trigger you can ignore it for the rest of the fight.
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>>484337669
>him
fuck off
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>>484336612
Yeah, the legacy dungeons were all pretty lame except for Enir Ilim, which was short. People talk about how much better the catacombs are, but I don't really see it. Then again, I liked them fine for the most part in the base game. The DLC ones have some fun gimmicks, but they also feel way longer than they had to be. The bosses were all good though. The gaols looked cool, but they also didn't have much variety and the bosses were generally bad. The forges sucked compared to mines, aesthetics aside.
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>>484337519
Yes, why was I even allowed to help her in the first place if it was all going to be for nothing anyway? My roleplaying choice was to help her out and it was all for nothing just because they didn't feel like paying an artist to draw ending slides

>>484337671
I tried to murder her as well but was denied for reasons unknown
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>>484337572
>cant kill the evil redman on your own so you cope
Then stay in the arena sissy
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>>484337675
Yup, host gets twinked shit and the password phantoms who were also twinked shit dickram shit for their casual friend and then think they are all cool and shit, and you have the schizo here claiming invaders are the ones cheating on repeat for 2 years straight
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>>484336689
Honestly I wouldnt, I like how it is now
Maybe making it clear that she did it to herself/on purpose instead of people being able to theorize that Renalla did it to her
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>>484337567
Not talking about that. Talking about the initial blast before she flies up into the air. It's just a distance thing for that one?
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>>484336586
Hardswap niggers cannot form coherent thoughts and haven't been able to since DaS3 hardswap cancer
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>>484337669
Isn't the Greater Will the real god? And the Elden Beast was just some kind of initial manifestation of the elden ring? It makes no sense. On the one hand you use a rune to mend the ring, and on the other you kill the actual thing the ring was
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>>484337948
>>484337712
50 arc 30 fth
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>>484337887
The ending is Miyazaki activelly punishing you for being a coomer subhuman
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>>484336612
S:
Specimen Storeroom
A:
Belurat
Enir-Ilim
B:
Stone Coffin Fissure
C:
Shadow Keep exterior
F:
Floode Church District

The minor dungeons are honestly better than some of the legacy dungeons
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>>484338014
Yes, just run away.
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>>484337890
>Can't kill the evil redman on your own so you cope
>don't even step into the arena so you use it as an insult
>erroryouareretard.png
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>>484337681
atmosphere is kino. i don't disagree with you there.
but i'm talking about a repeat play, so yea, the relevant assets are the enemies and gameplay at that point. the pretty field with red or blue flowers doesn't hit the same when you've already seen it and know it's coming up.
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>>484336989
>but then again Miyazaki is physically incapable of writing a satisfying storyline that doesn't end in le tragedy
Dragonwife literally gets drugged then demands you be her new househusband for your transgression
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>>484336612
>WHERE IS MY HECKING ELEVATOR THAT LOOPS BACK TO THE GARGOYLES
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>>484338149
>seething invadertroon is an animesissy
Lol lmao even
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Why do they put so much effort into animations the player will never see meanwhile cutting a bunch of stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxy20EpQGB4
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>>484338013
>Maybe making it clear that she did it to herself/on purpose instead of people being able to theorize that Renalla did it to her
Thought it would have been Ranni. Ranni is the one who'd be vindictive like that.
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>>484337739
kino. i'm sure it's the closest we'll get to the bleed nerf this game needs.
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>>484338291
>can't argue
>resorts to dodging the topic
>anime imageboard website
>>>erroryouareretard.png
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>>484338325
Maybe, but some people think its Renalla becuse she has the rebirth ability

I typed Rellana twice, I hate the names
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what's a good "i win" button i can just pull out on level 300 password phantoms? it was already tiresome in the base game, but now it's just absurd. there's so many new weapons and ashes that just home in on you with ruthless tracking and it's too obnoxious to play against.
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>>484338294
They ran out of budget with the first boss
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>perfumes exist
>can only use a handful of class-specific ashes
>one of them is useless, the other is beyond broken and will be surely nerfed into uselessness soon
It's a special kind of pain.
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are the martial arts good?
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>>484338192
This but unironically
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>>484338447
bleed backhand knife, but you need to be the first one to hit them or they will pull out their own
See >>484337675
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>>484338465
not being able to appreciate what is available to you right now is pain, yes
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You WILL fight the GEQ's cut moveset in the form of Tomoe in Sekiro 2, it will be impossible to deflect because it was designed for dodging and you will be pleased about it
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Fuck the hornsent.
Good riddance.
Marika, The Correct
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>>484338062
Specimen storeroom's layout seemed neat until you realize there's fuck all to actually explore. It's basically empty aside from the paths to the notable exits into new areas and the enemies are composed of 90% hollows 5% fire knights fought alone 1 at a time, 2% recycled militia guys and 3% fucking bats.
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>>484338515
Fuck yes
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>>484338663
I lost my shit when the bats showed up in the shadow keep. They really couldn't be assed, and Leddit still gushes over how the 90% wandering noble dungeon (feat. fire knights) is the greatest thing in the world 11/10 justifies the $40 price tag for the 2.5 year expansion (really .25 years of work and 2.25 years of cut content that had to be tossed)
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>>484338625
nobody is innocent in the lands between
not the least the shamans
I bet they deserved everything that happened to them
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>>484338663
the shadow hollows really pissed me off. what a lame and uninspired enemy and they put them EVERYWHER
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>>484338790
>giant evil castle has giant evil bats
stop the presses
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>>484338857
Should have been Deathblight Bats
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>>484338062
Specimen Storeroom sucks. It's like a Chinese knock-off of the Grand Archives.
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>>484338808
I swear to fucking god the entirety of the DLC has only as many new enemies as the average souls DLC. What the fuck did they spend those 2 years doing?
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I thought parrying Messmer is really hard, and he really is, but I just managed to beat him with 3 ripostes during the fight, i.e. >9 parries.
I'm proud of myself for that one.
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>>484338790
>how the 90% wandering noble dungeon (feat. fire knights) is the greatest thing in the world 11/10 justifies the $40 price tag
show me someone making that claim
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>>484333805
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>>484338952
parry this
*sucks your dick*
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>>484338987
>>484338062
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>>484338952
based parry chad. now do it with radahn. it's literally 40-ish parries
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>>484338950
Armored Core 6
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>who the fuck even wants all these potentate cookbooks?
me
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>>484338804
>T-the shamans probably did bad stuff too!
What a fucking cope. What evidence do you have? Because I sure have evidence of what the hornsent did to the shamans.
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>>484338950
Hard data proves you wrong. The is the biggest DLC in terms of area and enemies

DS1 DLC only had 3 new enemies, the gardeners, the golems and the bloatheads
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>>484333805
>There is an ayy
>doesn't even post the ayy
kill yourself faggot
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>>484338783
is it great against bosses?
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>>484339030
no one is making that claim there. can't you read?
you are the only one to have made that claim.
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>>484338808
they have new spells and ai that lets them heal allies, the only problem is they die too fast to be relevant
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>>484338562
I just wanted to put quickstep and endure on those things so they can function as actual weapons.
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>>484339004
He said Messmer, not Miquella.
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>>484339075
>DS1 DLC only had 3 new enemies, the gardeners, the golems and the bloatheads
it was $15
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>>484338987
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>>484338950
What the fuck did they spend those 2 years doing?
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+of+the+Erdtree
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>>484339047
Wait until people realize the rot and frenzy pots don't take limited materials and instantly trigger status in a massive aoe. They will be the new ganking chic for a while.
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>IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GODWYN, THEY REWROTE IT AND RETCONNED IT
shut
the
fuck
up
you
ILLITERATE
morons
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>>484330264
the dialogue doesn't imply that at all and just says the same shit the eng version does.
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>>484332234
I do find interesting that fromsoft a couple months ago bought the complete trademark rights to elden ring from bamco.
I feel as though this is important in creating other media for your product but someone can correct me
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>>484338952
Tsumo nya
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>>484339060
the only one coping here is you
every single person in the lands between is a horrible monster, as was designed by GRRM
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>>484338039
What makes Arc better than faitpanrph?
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It was never and should have never been godwyn. It should have been eldritch miquella. Why the fuck did he charm mohg to give him blood and change his body if we're not gonna fight it?
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If the reason people can't die is because of Marika getting rid of Destined Death from the Elden Ring, why did the hornsent jars still keep people alive? Why didn't they just like die like normal?
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>>484339187
no one is making that claim in that image. can't you read?
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>>484339180
And since there are least 10 new enemies, not counting bosses I'm guess SoTE is more than worth the price them.
Thanks for playing
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>>484339393
does she say that in game?
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>>484339376
Dragon Communion Seal
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>>484339475
I dunno I dont play videogames
Probably not, it seems too long
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>>484339415
get that miyzakinigger cock out of your mouth, bitchboy, your asshurt is showing
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can you guys stop being mad already that the dlc didnt pan out exactly like your pornsick headcanon
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>>484339291
>certificate of word literacy
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>>484339547
I accept your concession
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>>484339559
>pornsick headcanon
>meanwhile the DLC is just Miyazaki's degenerate fetishes
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>>484339415
is that really true? there only fucking 10 new enemies in this entire piece of shit?
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>>484339559
lotr_no.gif
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>>484339094
Depends on the boss. Someone like Radagon can suck because of his little burst he does when he teleports & huge enemies are either better or worse because of the range. Just stay mobile & it's good
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>>484339604
Nanaya was probably a body snatched by Shabriri like Hyetta, right?
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>>484327915
Its all making sense now
>Bamco forces hacksoftware to make elden ring 2 after the financial success of it
>hacksoftware panics and purposefully fucks up the lore of SOTET/leaves everything half finished to have enough lore content for another game
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>>484339618
read, nigger
>>484339252
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>>484339075
4. There were bloathead mages and bloothead melee guys. 5 if you count humanity, but they were more or less a stage hazard in practice.

Meanwhile here we get...
Shadow Hollows (dagger, pot, unarmed)
Shadow Hollow (mage)
Shadow Hollow (big)
Scorpions
Scorpions (flying)
Horned Warrior (greatsword)
Horned Warrior (dual swords)
Horned Warrior (femme, recycled midboss)
Inquisitor
Fat Inquisitor
Fire Knight (mage)
Fire Knight (daggers)
Fire Knight (greatsword)
Gravebirds
Forge Golems

And that's basically it. Those enemies are interspersed across this whole massive map alongside copious reuse of base game enemies (slimes, bats, pests, dogs, etc.)
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>>484339180
Are we really going to pretend that SotE for $40 isn't an exponentially higher value purchase than AotA (or for that matter, AoA and TRC) for $15. The quantity and quality of the content is incomparable, in SotE's favor. There's a few dud areas, bosses, and enemies in the DLC, but it's a full-fledged expansion.

I hate the contrarianism so much. It's okay to have criticisms of SotE. I have criticisms of SotE. But pretending that it's somehow a worse value than any previous FromSoft DLC is just living in a contrarian bubble of your own imagining.
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>>484339604
the frenzussy was too good
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>>484339291
based
Miquella NEVER had any intention of reviving Godwyn
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>>484339684
Why would Shabriri want Midra to endure against madness, retardo?
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>>484337382
Yes, you basically killed Radagon who usurped her power as a God and then kill the Elden Beast (Rings defense system) and what you have left is some hollow shell of Marika barely containing the Elden Ring.
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>>484328960
unironically, Hero since youre going to want 16 STR anyway for the cooler dex weapons and at least 12 faith for flame cleanse me and bloodflame blade
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>>484339798
More importantly why does Midra have a frenzy head but I dont?
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>>484339734
>Fat Inquisitor
The Fat Inquisitor is actually a Godskin Noble reskin.
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>we never found out what's the deal with the Great Rune craved on the Moon
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>>484339798
To cook longer so the result would be stronger. Nanaya's torch was a previous Lord of Frenzied flame and it's a tiny flame stuck on a spinal column.
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>If you intend to claim the Frenzied Flame, I ask that you cease. It is not to be meddled with. It is chaos, devouring life and thought unending. However ruined this world has become, however mired in torment and despair, life endures. Births continue. There is beauty in that, is there not? If you would become Lord, do not deny this notion. Please, leave the Frenzied Flame alone.

They do a really bad job of showing this. I know that there are allusions to civilization in the Lands Between, but the game never shows it. Even having two or three non-hostile settlements scattered across the world where you could talk to civilians and take on some minor quests would have done a lot to make players feel more invested in the fate of the Lands Between.
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>illusory wall with a servant and nothing else in it in the room above where they are attempting to unjar marikas people
Curious.
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Hello I have the Hornsent and Dark Knight summons for Messmer, do they progress anything if I summon them?
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>>484339939
That's what Jarberg is for (which has it's own quests) and obviously there are other civilisations out there like Land of Reeds thriving.
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>>484339618
read what? your link doesn't list DLC exclusive enemies
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>>484339734
Adding to this, basically:
Horned Warriors were a fantastic enemy and were underused. From treated them too much like midbosses rather than enemies. More of them, less hollows would've improved Belurat, Enir-Ilim and the Rauh ruins among other places.

Fire Knights were a solid enemy with good variations but they needed a proper mook enemy to pair with them instead of just filling the Shadow Keep with hollows. I thought it was really weird that Messmer Soldiers and Black Knights are just totally absent from the Storeroom. Messmer Soldiers are an S-tier mob enemy.
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>people turning on the dlc
Yes. I will be vindicated
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>>484331819
Why doesn't Radagon talk in his boss fight? Am I not good enough to banter with?
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>>484339939
>Majula my beloved...
Reminder majula has the best ost of any main hub.
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Laughing at people mass bricking their save file by leveling above 150. You better start making a new build, because you won't be able to play online 2 weeks from now.
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>>484340045
Move a merchant, smith, and spell/ash trainer into Jarberg and you'd have an actual village.
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>>484339798
Endure the flame, anon. A worthy lord needs to endure the flame of frenzy without being consumed by it. He's consumed by it when we arrive.
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>>484339734
>Horned Warrior (femme,
Who? Where?
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>>484340050
>all online searches just list bosses
lmao
just skim a playthrough and you'll see the new enemies I guess
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>>484340217
Delusional. Rebbit/Gamfags/Resetrannyera/all major journalism hubs recommend people to *start* the DLC at 175 lmao

200 is the safe stopping point.
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>>484340243
The ninja ones with the round blades.
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>>484340025
Annnnd I just read I fucked up the quest by opening Messmers door
BRAVO MIYAZAKI
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>>484340219
Yeah it's an open world game they really fucked up by not having one functional vestige of civilization with a merchant and a blacksmith. The Lands Between aren't Lordran it's still a functional place
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>>484340217
Oroboro has been invading on PS5 at rl 90-200 for ER's entire lifespan. I wouldnxt go that high on principle, but ut seems like plenty enough other have and do.
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>>484336689
her, and ranni giving the tarnished dual footjobs in eternal bliss.
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>>484339760
the 40 dollar price tag is fair, but i think you're wrong on the other points.
>ringed city
>hunters nightmare
>DS2 dlc
all of these completely mog SotE both in terms of quality and value.
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whats the best colossal hammer to use?
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>>484340050
alternatively read here
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+Lands+Game+Progress+Route
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>>484337712
dragon CULT or dragon COMMUNION? one is worshipping them for scraps, the other is killing and eating them to get their power
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>>484340217
The DLC shitting out tons of runes at you plus difficulty will make sure most normalfags to go to 200+
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>>484340327
Those are dudes and not Horned Warriors. They're called Ascetics, per their armor set.
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>>484339939
>Births continue
this is definitely the most 'wtf do you mean' part like what do you mean births continue? Who the fuck is being born?
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>>484327696
That DLC? Barbarians of the Badlands
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>>484340326
>Rebbit/Gamfags/Resetrannyera/all major journalism hubs
These are the players that maybe finish the game once, if at all, and never play it again. I give it two weeks, two months tops, and the game will be completely dead above RL150, most active at RL20-40.
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>>484340536
Animals I guess. You come upon plenty of eggs, for instance.
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>>484338013
Rellana can't even cast spells at this point how could she have done that
Also I think it's funny that Selen pulled her, chair and all, to the back of the library out of pity instead of killing her. Renalla must weigh a lot
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>>484340536
Wolves and bears and all the other little critters of the woods, duh.
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>>484340217
on the contrary, i'm pretty sure the new populated level will just be 200
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>>484340359
should've been post-quest stormveil
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>>484340539
Tarnished! What is best in life?
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>>484340692
Not playing SotE
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>>484340536
that's the weirdest shit about elden ring lore, you're supposed to believe that there's regular people out there just living their lives somewhere, and that the npcs you talk to are examples of them, but the game makes it feel like there is no society whatsoever in any way
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>>484336689
more steps showing her decline instead of going from 0 to ball as soon as the tarnished turns their head
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>>484340648
Do you mean Renalla or Rellana?
Also like by using her rebirth ability
Also also hehehe
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>>484340581
Elden is mainstream now and you will see shitloads of people playing this far longer than DS3. I'm calling 175 as the most active now
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>>484340793
So you want Witcher souls?
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>>484340456
why are you sending me random shit that doesn't have to do with DLC exclusive enemies?
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>>484340680
Yeah Nepheli could domesticate the castle over the course of the game and by the time you beat Fire Giant Stormveil could be cleaned up with no more enemies and friendly/non hostile peasant NPCs
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>>484340886
NTA but I'd be very down for that
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>beat Radahn
>DLC over
>collect a fucking crown from a glowing spot on the ground
Holy fuck this really was DaS2-2
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>>484328078
Give it to me, your Dark Soul.
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>>484339365
Marika may have done bad things after the fact and turned into a monster, but demonstrate to me that the shaman village was evil.
The hornsent
>Killed entirely because Marika wanted retribution for what they had done to the shamans. She took the caged divinity in exchange for the power to destroy and erase the hornsent
The shamans
>'killed' because they could be used as glue for jars because of archaic bullshit the hornsent wanted relating to their religion.

We know why both of those things happened, and one has an at least understandable if still bad reason, the other is just bad. The Hornsent simply didn't need to make jars out of unwilling people
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>leda would have eventually killed moore, freyja, and probably even radahn himself
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>>484340886
i want the lore to make sense, you can't combine a 200% postapoc world where nobody lives and pretend that people still live there, pick one
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>>484340539
god i wish
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>helmet boosts health, stamina and weight load
>but it looks like an ugly red KKK hat
Fuck
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The DLC gives you so many runes, it's ridiculous.
What level do people stop at in ER, if at all?
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>>484340935
DS2 at least had an ending cutscene into a credit roll. This was just "Uhhh did I do it? Is it over?" + running up to the weird throne area Miqqers was floating above and realizing you can't get up there at all.
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>>484340804
The milf
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>>484340907
because I'm wasting my time trying to be helpful and provide you with the information you're looking for, even though it's not readily available yet
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>>484334960
this is all horseshit
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>>484339393
Something special about the shamans allowed them to graft together without dying. They can obviously still die in general, but the jarring doesn't necessarily result in death, at least for the shaman host.
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>>484341067
175-200.

I went into the DLC at 120 and by the time I beat Radahn I was 180. I did not grind at all and just dumped all of my boss/exploring runes directly into my level.
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>>484341067
they used to at 125 or 150, i doubt that's going to continue now, my guess is 200 after the dlc
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>>484340937
You know, it's funny, but the GW is described as a vast void of darkness surrounded by a ring of blinding light. It's almost like it's a black hole (which matches up with the whole spacetime magic theme). If I were writing fanfiction, it'd be very easy to say that the GW is something like the Dark Soul and the Frenzied Flame related to the First Flame or Flame of Chaos (hence why they oppose each other).
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Downloaded Seamless Co-op so I can invade some shitters, whats a good level range location and set up?
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>>484340976
we don't have any information about the background of the shaman village other than the propaganda that they were mercilessly tormented by the hornsent
you are free to believe the propaganda but I don't
nobody in this game is innocent, I will not goign to give the shamans the benefit of the doubt
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>>484341079
SotE doesn't have an opening cutscene either.
They spent the entire budget on Radahn's five-minute long wank-off intro.
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>>484341048
You'd think a badass barbarian king wouldn't have allowed himself to be stabbed and impaled so many times in a fight.
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I like the new composer. I'm glad the old bitch quit.
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>>484341243
ACTUALLY black holes aren't orange, they are actually blue-white like any other extremely hot substance, so this makes no sense your theory is absolutely worthless you should be ashamed of yourself
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>>484340925
It would also make sense as a place for NPCs to end up if they survive their quests, like Boc and uhh
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>>484339220
Leda SEXO
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So is Radagon a numen too and the melding of Radagon and Marika was something that they could just do naturally
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>>484340793
There are but not in the lands between. There's a whole normal world on other continents, you're in the land of the gods.
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>>484341375
The new music is just as bad as in the base game. I don't understand how they could flop so hard after Bloodborne and Sekiro.
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>>484336989
>coomnigger didn't pay attention to the fucking lore
every goddamn time, kill yourself
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>>484334574
Use vow of the indomitable or Miriam Vanishing on meteor Radahn, get your window
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>>484341067
Only disgusting dispicable faggots stop at 125.
I stop at 120 because that's been the actual meta for every Souls game except Bloodborne, which was 98, and DaS 2, which was shit.
138 feels great for ER though and I'm strongly considering moving up to it.
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>>484339559
What was the pornsick headcanon people were hoping for?

>>484339604
kek
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>>484341375
There's a lot of good shit in the DLC: Messmer's theme, Romina's theme, St. Trina's theme, Scadutree Avatar's theme, the gank theme, a lot of the ambient tracks. I don't smoke, but the music makes me want to get high and just immerse myself in the game with my brain completely off.
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>>484341396
Nepheli, Kenneth, Gostoc, Boc, Patches, Rya, the bearded guy everyone kills in favor of Sellen, and I can't remember any others
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>>484341148
kek. ok well thanks anon. wasn't sure what you were getting at.

new enemies:
>bird warriors (based)
>fire knights
>rock caterpillars that shoot laser beams
>mini death birds
that's all i can think off unless you start reaching and counting stuff like "Messmer's knights" as a new enemy
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>>484341472
i would like that in principle but there's too many examples of the game insisting that yes there totally are people living here in the lands between, why the fuck would the npcs like kenneth otherwise exist, what are the nobles lords of if there's no peasants to multiply and do shit
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>>484341336
getting stabbed a ton in battle is exactly how i'd think a fantasy barbarian chief would want to go out desu
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>>484340217
>two more weeks
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>>484341619
>"Messmer's knights" as a new enemy
Why wouldn't they be new enemies?
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>>484341383
>ring of blinding light
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>>484340217
>>484340581
I don't want to invade RL 150 players because they're the biggest faggots imaginable. Yes I'm willing to go past 166 and stop at 175 just to avoid invading you specifically.
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>>484341079
>running up to the weird throne area Miqqers was floating above and realizing you can't get up there at all.
truly the most unforgivable part
i came here and had to ask anons what i was missing to finish the DLC. turns out there's just nothing.
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>>484341048
What the fuck is happening over there that this happened to Godfrey
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>>484340217
>caring about online
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>>484341665
There were people there but they got fucked up in the Shattering. Hence the peasant and noble hollows. Presumably the rest of the world is a bit fucked up by the divine order breaking but it wouldn't have been apocalyptic like it was for the Lands Between itself.
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>>484341472
godfrey got his ass murdered when he ventured outside the lands between, i don't know how the fuck some godless lands could kill him
and why would the outer gods only come to the lands between
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Oh shit, I just realized I've completely forgotten to kill Senessax. What does he even drop?
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>>484341852
all the semen that he sux
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>>484341079
What's with the complete lack of cinematics in ER anyways? All other Souls games opened with some animated cutscene goodnes. In ER, it's just a slideshow. Even the damn trailers were animated:

https://youtu.be/K_03kFqWfqs
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>>484341067
at 150 you get nonstop invasions in shadow keep but not Enir Ilim, so maybe 170?
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I feel like a lot of the regret over levelling and a lot of the eternal arguements about the best levels could just be really easily solved if Fromsoft just would post about the average player level or median level or something.
Or honeslt,y like the way better solution is just give a way to de-level yourself.
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can someone just tell me how to get to the fucking converted fringe tower? no wiki guide, no video, no direct path, no information besides "just go east lmao"

ive been at this for an hour, is there a parkour or something hidden that I have to do to get there?
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>>484341909
>Or honeslt,y like the way better solution is just give a way to de-level yourself.
Why? That's retarded. It's an RPG.
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>>484341879
AND SIR GIDEON OFNIR, THE AALLLLLLLLLLLL KNOWINGGG
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>didnt have time to make a Miquella cosplay for Anime Expo
Damn
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>>484341852
a fucking smith stone
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>>484341836
>and why would the outer gods only come to the lands between
Because the Crucible/Erdtree is there. It's the metaphysical centre of the world.
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>>484341920
Where?
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Why the fuck would I care about what level I'm at if I don't care about the online shit?
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>>484341260
isn't the whole point of seamless co-op to deny invaders? what makes you think people will opt in to invasions?
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>>484341493
I'm not looking through all my items for the 3 sentences explaining away the overdone endings, I'm not watching some fag's lore videos, I'm going to keep complaining that Miyazaki sucks at making compelling character storylines. Either he fixes it or he gets the guy who wrote Igon's storyline to do it instead from now on, simple as brother.
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>>484341948
yeah but you still should not level until 300 or 400 or 500 despite it being an option
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>>484341948
As if intentionally avoiding level ups to begin with isn't retarded in an RPG.
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>>484341879
bro every time i play i get annoyed by needing to constantly spam skip cinematic, fuck you
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>>484342020
the SotE edition now has invasions
and Invasions are enabled by default
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>>484341991
But can you pull off being a cute boy.
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>>484341879
tell-tale sign of late rewrites usually, either stuff stays in flux so long tgat there's no time for cg, or it changes drastically enough that the old cg no longer fits
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>>484342031
I mean no one does that besides NG+ players anyways.
>>484342048
You could argue that in-universe wise you fear the growing power of otherworldly invaders.
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>>484341294
>Radahn's five-minute long wank-off intro.
kek that was so gay. really didn't fit the vibe of a souls game.
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>>484342026
not your brother, kill yourself, idiot
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>>484342106
you'd be surprised how many people there are at the 300+ level bracket
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>>484341879
The slideshow is pretty
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>>484341920
Go southeast from the Grand Lift of Dectus
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>>484342157
Yeah and they're all in NG+ or ++ or some other variety of that.
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>>484341948
Idk its just an option if you want to and would mean you can push back down to do stuff in lower level brackets
Its preferrable to having anxiety about levelling up
>>484342017
You wouldnt
What answer were you expecting, anon?
>>484341920
You have to start further west and snake to it, you're not gonna be scaling the cliff. If you pass a scary village, you're on the right track
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>>484342137
Is Radahn Miyazaki's writers pet character or something?
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>>484342031
>leveled to 295 cause I just wanted to do all my magic and sword play
I only fight bosses solo and look to help people with boss fights. Capping your level is really only good for focusing on PvP.
>>484342071
Maybe? I only just do small characters honestly. I'm not gonna say I'm cute but have never had issues not getting people's attention when I do stuff like Venti or 9S. I'd probably look weird as Miquella anyways cause im Tan
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>>484342020
it's opt-out and i'd bet most people don't bother to check
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>>484341920
this?
https://youtu.be/0FcDCY6__hk?si=JiMRJBWQwUm2edJk
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>>484341836
That's because Godfrey wasn't strong enough to deal with the challenges of the Barbarians of the Badlands™ DLC
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>>484341719
basic npc damage sponge but wearing green instead of red/gold/blue doesn't count to me.
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Invader and coop bros. What level have you had more luck with in the DLC, 125 or 150?
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>>484342406
Anon, your Black Knights?
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Rellana should have said "Lord Messmer... forgive me" when you defeated her
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>invade some faggot grace duellist
>as soon as I start winning (on an incomplete build, mind you; I don't even have all my talisman slots) he decides to chuck a tantrum by reaction rolling everything with light encumbrance
>check his profile, vac ban on record
>hide in the level so I occupy his invasion slot, kills himself when he realises he will never find me
Dude I can only imagine the strata of sub-humanity retards like this occupy.
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>>484342427
>125
Stop this shit meme. It's a dueling level, not an invasion level.
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>>484342427
Summons are constant at 120 and 138 for me. Haven't tried any other ranges.
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The Sekiro physick was the best thing they added to the game. In the next Elden's Souls 5, they should introduce small shields that do the same thing but get 100% physical negation on a perfect block, 70% otherwise.
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>>484342496
>ead is censored because it stands for eat a dick
ah yes, boomer acronyms
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>>484342427
The point of 125 is just the fact that it constrains your stats to force specialization, if you're wanting invasions in the DLC go for 150 or higher
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>>484342280
Have more confidence anon. Seeing a cute cosplay from behind and then realizing its a boy always gets me so embarrassed at anime expo.
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>>484341773
>Weapon of Godfrey, Elden Lord. It was broken in a battle fought as leader of the Tarnished during the Long March.
Some serious shit apparently.
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tell me a good reason why I should stop leveling
tell me a good reason why stat constraints are a good thing other than purposely making the game harder for you
tell me a good reason why I shouldn't be 99 in every stat
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>>484342513
>>484342580
Invaders I watch on twitch and YT all do 125. What is the problem with it?
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>>484341619
>>484341148
if you're ignoring all the new bosses for some reason...

the messmer soldiers and black knights are new, they have new appearances and abilities, they are just soldier mobs so they feel old, hell the same goes for the shadow grandpas since they cast a bunch of different spells and even heal knights near them to fuck you up

there's also the jar innards, those are definitely new no matter how you want to turn it, and there's also the lampreys that noscope you with paralysis from beyond rendering range and then teleport their minions on to you

and uhh, what else was there lemme think

the madness blobs you can't kill without parry

the ascetics, those are absolutely new

oh right and then there's the fucking blood troll lardasses, can't forget those

since you mention the new divine warriors (which are based) i'm surprised you forgot the inquisitors which have three variants, the regular mobs, the fat ones, and the artillery caster ones

i don't know there's probably a bunch of other stuff like the spirit worm memes but i can't think of it now

most enemies are new, the ones that aren't stand out more than the new ones
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>>484337382
Radagon, who is another aspect of Marika, desperately wanted to repair the Golden Order despite his wife/other half's shattering of the ring. The Greater Will punished Marika for her trangression, thereby also punishing Radagon, but it didn't kill her because she's still the Greater Will's representative and the linchpin of the Golden Order. Becoming Elden Lord means taking Marika's hand.
You burn the Erdtree because the Greater Will is using the thorns of the tree to prevent you from entering. It denies you lordship because, as far as it is concerned, Radagon is still Elden Lord and an immobile, crippled Lord is perfectly acceptable. The order has fallen to tatters and the Elden Ring has been dispersed, but the Lord and Lady are still technically alive and the system is still in place. Radagon attacks you because you've come to challenge his order, or at least what's left of it, and he doesn't want to give it up.
You kill Radagon, and the Elden Beast shows up because the Elden Lord seat is now empty and it's acting as a defense system/representative of the Greater Will. You destroy the Elden Beast to get the Greater Will to leave you alone while you finish repairing the Elden Ring using whatever method you find suitable. As for Marika, her body fades with the vestiges of the broken ring, but you repair the ring and establish a new order that does not use the same system as what came before.
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>>484341619
>Gravebirds
>Spider-scorpions (small, large, giant, winged)
>Bloodfiends (arm, spear, ritual spear, chieftan)
>Messmer soldiers (axe, pike)
>Black knights (greathammer, twinblade)
>Fire knights (greatsword, short sword, summoner, caster)
>Laser caterpillars
>Hornsent warriors (curved swords, curved greatsword)
>Bird hornsent warriors
>Lion hornsent warriors
>Hornsent ascetics
>Flies
>Hornsent priests
>Fat hornsent priests
>Winter lanterns (gimmick enemy)
>Finger ruin leeches
>New imps (lion, big mouth)
>Death sorcerers
>Living jar viscera
>Forge golems
>Spirit worms
Not that I'm not including enemies that are obvious reskins like the putrescent slimes, forge slimes, red kindred of rot, or the shadow manlets, but I am including enemies that reuse old assets or have new, unique movesets.

I might be missing some.
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>>484342580
>The point of 125 is just the fact that it constrains your stats to force specialization
This is a dumb argument and shows that pvp tards don't understand what build variety actually entails.
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>>484335256
The later really. Demons souls did the "desperate attempt at keeping the world alive" better than any other souls game, and you can't really improve on that. Dark souls never managed to top that, ds2 just showed that everything you did in ds1 was pointless, ds3 just twists the knife by showing everything was doomed the instant Gwyn the retard meddled with things he shouldn't have and cursed the world to rot.

Elden ring feels more closer to Demon souls, you can at least fix things somewhat without the game twisting itself to show that everything is pointless like DS1/DS2/DS3. This "the world is doomed to die" had its time, let it die for good, From should try new types of stories.
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>>484342662
Nothing in particular, it's just that a majority of people are playing at a higher level than that so you're more likely to get matches in the dlc that high
>>484342737
How?
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Extreme autism hours, huh?
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Why was torrent so prominently features in the DLC prerelease material if he ultimately played zero part in the story?
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>>484342780
Ah. I suppose that makes sense. I just wanted to be able to duel AND invade/coop
Maybe I'll do an awkward 130 or something.
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I'm going blind, no guides, etc. Play with 2 katanas for a long time, because it's cool and stuff.
I'm in the land of the giants now. Told a friend that I have Helphen's Steeple and Dark Moon Greatsword, and he recommended that I switch to them.
On the one hand I want to try something different, but on the other hand I don't know how many Larval Tears I can get. I already used 3-4 of them and still got 4. Is it worth experimenting with the builds in Elden Ring? I wish I could just try stuff on the fly, but whatever.
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>>484342727
>The Greater Will punished Marika for her trangression
not possible since the greater will is absent, it could have at best been the backlash of her striking the ring
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>>484342260
>>484342232
where.
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okay
I had an LLM summarize a walk-through of the game and list enemies
https://rentry.org/ERSOTE

what things are duplicates from the original game, or bosses?
anything that's missing?
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>>484342780
>How?
How is a hybrid build not a form of specialization? How is a pure caster with 80 INT/60 MND less specialized in 150 than 125 just because he at least has enough HP to not get one shot by every single enemy in late-game PvE?
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>>484342489
ah yea. the mace dudes with fancy counter attacks. they count. forgot about them
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>>484342871
make a U or V shape connecting the top two X's
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>>484342727
I thought Radagon by the time of the final fight was barely sentient
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>>484342628
Oh I'm not insecure when it comes to cosplaying. If I was I wouldn't do it. I just dont consider myself cute or not cute. I just do things to have fun. Just happy that theres a small character to cosplay in Elden Ring thats actually a boy. I'd cosplay Radahn or maybe even Mohg but thats bulky and wouldnt fit a 5'2 frame
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>>484342871
See that wall weird wall thing? Get there
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>Have all the skibidies
>Have all cookbooks
>Have all the weapons
Now what?
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>>484342987
time to get the point
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>>484342496
>invade dedicated gankers in a cleared out area
>run away
>mimic veil
>go afk
always kino
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>eldenring pvp
>wp art spam, spell spam, not a single basic attack
What horrendous shit show
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>>484342406
Different weapon and moveset counts, I'd say. Plus the fact they focus on war cry makes them pretty unique even among soldier level enemies.
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>>484342937
Assumedly, but I take it as him just running on base instinct and the vague notion that anyone who could have made it to where him and Marika are must be a threat. We don't really have a concrete idea of how much time has passed since The Shattering nor do we know how immediately him and Marika were strung up, but his torment probably just eroded his sanity and sense of self.
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>>484342835
helphen's is pointless. just use dmgs on its own if you're switching to int, since all you do is spam the beam. but also you don't need to switch to int, you can keep using dex/arc or whatever you are. dual katanas is not that good compared to 2 handing nagakiba with double slash, and then there's more dex stuff in the dlc.
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>>484342987
time for multiplayer
coop, colosseum or invasions, what's your preference?
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>beat fire giant
>immediately greeted by Lansseax but with enough HP to feel like he's as tanky as him
Wtf is this horseshit?
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>>484343071
>implying it's not mostly running pokes
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>>484342737
After DLC most people play at SL200 is where most variety exists now.
>>484342751
Elden Ring feels like a better DS2
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>>484342873
ghostflame dragon is just a dragon with a recolor, demi-humans are obviously from base, forager brood are inexplicably friendly kindred of rot, giant bats are 100% the same as in base, fire blobs are just recolored blobs, ghost hounds are just recolored dogs, etc., you probably know this shit

i should mention that imps have two (or more?) new variants that feel very different to the old ones so those should count as new
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>>484343204
>pokes
>when you can just AoE spam
Do you even?

Eldenring is by far the worst Souls game for 1v1. Shit makes DS3 look like DS2
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>>484342810
What do you want torrent to do?
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>>484334257
dragons are the shitbulls of the lands between
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>>484342729
Soldiers and Black Knights are entirely reskinned from the base game, as are fat priests and laser caterpillars. Death Sorcerers are also literally reskinned Raya Lucaria scholars, and i'm fairly certain the inquisitor enemies are reskinned from something as well.

You also listed 3 different kind of hornsent warrior you stupid nigger LMAO
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>>484343329
Triple jump
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>>484342719
yea you got a lot that i missed
>jar innards
i liked those guy
>madness blobs
not going to count them in my headcannon because they're just winter lanterns
>troll lardasses
forgot they were new desu. i know you're right, but they "feel" reused. same with inquisitors aside from the big fat one.
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Why is he so weak and pathetic?
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>>484343404
>Note that I'm not including enemies that are obvious reskins like the putrescent slimes, forge slimes, red kindred of rot, or the shadow manlets, but I am including enemies that reuse old assets or have new, unique movesets.
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>>484343404
>Soldiers and Black Knights are entirely reskinned
They have different equipment and moves. It's like saying every tarnished invader is the same reskinned enemy.
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>>484342835
dont listen to that redditor metaslave, helphens steeple is a based and respectable weapon
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Elden Ring is one of the best RPG games but not a good Souls game.
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>>484343323
luhmao
>runs away from your shitass slow aoes
>pokes you to death with banished knight halberd running R1s
>nukes your HP with jumping R2 > R1 true combo of you ever do anything comittal
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>>484342727
didn't the DLC confirm that the greater will pissed off and never came back LOOOOOOOOOOONG before the events of the game?
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The Staff of the Great Beyond is calling me...
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>>484343458
Don't give Miyazaki any more ideas
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>>484342835
If on PC just cheat for more larval tears, I believe you can get 8 per run but it's such a pointless limit.
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i made a new thread, use when you feel like it
>>484343538
>>484343538
>>484343538
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>>484343524
yes it also confirmed it was never a good being and there was never a golden age
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So are hornsent and omen the same thing?
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>>484343506
>bait you with fire balls
>spam messmer spear like a retard
>I win
No es personal kiddo
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>>484343213
thanks, I edited it to reflect that
I'm just tired of reading all these different names and figuring out what's from where
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>>484340512
They are called Curseblades.
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>>484342835
i'd really recommend doing your runs to the fullest and saving other cool stuff you can't use for a separate run. if you're the 2kat dex man then dex it up and save int stuff for another run. i'd really only recommend larval tears for adjusting your build into something similar (for instance going from dex to a dex/int hybrid). of course that's just a recommendation and if you want to change builds on the fly then there are 16 larval tears total
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>>484343462
>It's like saying every tarnished invader is the same reskinned enemy.
They literally are, the same way you or I can make the exact same damn character down to the sliders. They could make thousands of them with little to no effort because its just riffs on something that already exists. They didn't make Ancient Dragonman first then create the Dragonhead item after, you dolt.

A Haligtree trooper blowing himself up does not a new enemy make from the same shit you've been looking at for the last 300 hours, nigger. Get real.
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>>484343458
there's a gigantic cock just out of frame isnt there
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>>484343524
>>484343578
NTA but where was this info?
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>>484343701
It does, though. Just because they're built on the same human body doesn't mean they fight the same or look the same.
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>>484343626
>>>messmers spear
Not only easy as fuck to dodge, but laggy and low damage as well compared to any other option.
You could have at least said something actually strong like Blind Spot of Swift Strike, but I'll take the self report that you actually know nothing about the game. Kill yourself for talking out of your ass.
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>>484342873
Fat Inquisitor's are Fat Godskin reskins. Fire blobs are reskins, as are all Shadow enemies (Wandering Nobles/Hollows). Shadow Militiamen and Omenkillers too.
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>>484339939
Dragon's Dogma 2 genuinely did the same sort of thing but 1000x better.
World Unmoored really does make you feel the sort of disaster you've brought onto this living world.

In DD2 you're the hero rescuing all of these friendly NPCs by fighting through the nightmare without rest. It's the best culmination of all the game's mechanics they could've done.
Lands Between is dead. Every NPC is dead. Those alive are irreperably mad.
Frenzied Flame to torch this shit down is the only solution.
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>>484343780
part of the metyr and finger questline. check the boss remembrance for it. i'm not autistic enough to remember and point you to the exact item descriptions
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>>484343964
Fair enough. Cheers.
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>>484343814
The point is that its repurposing existing assets. They did not invent something new. The Potentate enemies are especially fucking egregious because its borderline a clone of a tarnished invader that already fucking exists but they're regular enemies and have the sharpen from DS3/Demons Souls
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>>484337675
>what's funny is that every time invaders discover something that they think will do well against ganks, they neglect to acknowledge that ganks do literally everything better than they do. rolling sparks spam? easier to hit for ganks by far. swift slash spam? better for ganks. blind spot spam? better for ganks. and so on.
the point is to escalate the arms race to ever lamer and gayer weapons and eventually reduce pvp to spamming 1-2 boring broken af weapons. a lot of invaders will generally swap over to swift slash or perfume bottles when they see a ganksquad, and play normally with "fun weapons" if not. on average, invaders do still get normal pvp battles occasionally, while ganksquads are only really getting invaders who are used to getting ganked, which means they are going to go out of their way to annoy them and cheese them back.

that isn't to say there aren't people who still enjoy ganking even when it's just pressing 1 button to win. but on average, as long as there instawin cheese options in the game, i think invaders are probably having more fun than the ganksquads are. which is probably why they always nerf the cheese because ganksquads are the whiniest online
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I've been keeping my level at 150 for sunbro'ing during the DLC, but now I've been wondering if I should be levelling up my character.
I've been wasting literally millions of runes on just pointlessly upgrading all of these weapons I'll probably never use.
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>>484344009
are all those weapons +24 and +9 only? I wish we could buy ancient dragons stones....
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>>484344157
Yes.
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>>484344004
i wouldn't mind the gang bang as much if they didn't BM on top of it. in invaded into the bottom of the Caelid divine tower and, naturally, the host and his 2 summons decided to fight me instead of going to the boss because killing the bad red man is free. let me tell you, i fought for my fucking life, tooth and nail, with an awful, unfinished build. i scrapped. what do i get? teabagged and pointed down on.

it just drives you to become yet another swift slash spam faggot. i am straight up going to make an optimized fire knight greatsword build next, rather than finish my "honest" pure DEX build i was working on. fuck 'em. they deserve nothing.
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>>484341852
>Named Ancient Dragon Bossfight
>No Dragon Cult incantation with its name
Lame and gay like this whole DLC
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>>484342427
150 and 200
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It's sad that we are wrapping up Elden Ring, and there will be no more.
We just have to await the next normal fromsoft game and hope miyazaki can stave off the inevitable flop for 1 game longer.
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>>484342810
>Still no Armor/Alternate Looks for Torrent
Man.......
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would a build with vanish and magic weapons work? say as much cast speed as i could get, would it not just be a teleporting nuke?
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>>484343998
I'll give you the potentates, those suck ass and not to mention they use a sword that's a duplicate of a different one, terribly lazy enemies.

But for Messmer's soldiers they used new armor, new weapons, new moves... yeah they use the human soldier base, but it's unfair to call them recycled, at least in my book.
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>>484345481
potentates have red colored names which means they're tarnished or invaders which means you can use madness and death blight on them
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>>484339939
No they didn't. The lore specifically states you restore rebirth and create a new world depending on your choices. You actually go through areas that unveil massive timeline of betrayal, deaths, morally grey conflicts were neither side is wrong, but also meet characters and descendants of all side who have their own vision of what happened and opinions on characters.
Messmer seemed like a total piece of shit, but is actually very honorable Demigod that tried to heal and help the jars. Marika's treatment of Mohg and Morgott makes sense if we understand her history with the hornsent, and despite that she and Godfrey still loved them. Despite what Messmer thinks, Marika never abandoned him or tried to have him killed, and he even could grow up with the Carian children.
And it goes for many NPCs and characters in game.
There's a constant cycle of strife, hatred and bad blood that drags through generations and brings good people down but also glimmers of hope and the promise that a rightfully Lord will restore the world and bring balance.
Elden Ring thematics are in the Demigods and NPCs and their human characterization and drama.
It's up to the player to decide if the world is worth restoring and people can heal or accept a nihilst point of view after learning of the Greater Will abandoning the Lands Between and burn it, but both can happen. All Order and Ranni's quests embrace Life and reshape the Lands Between.
What you want instead is cringe hollywood and ubishit, because you are a retarded Ds2faggot
>>484343946
Dragon's Dogshit 2 did everything wrong. Dark Souls 3 completely surpassed it with the whole gimmick of the same cycle repeated through ages until it tires itself as, as customs and covenants get twisted.
It even completely failed to set up the stakes and deliver on Gigantus ravaging through the world.
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>>484343946
The unmoored world is trash and the questlines to save cities are completely unecessary and bland
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>>484344742
People said the same thing after Dark Souls 3 The Ringed City
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>>484345996
>It's a DS3fag
Miss me with that shit
>whole gimmick of the same cycle repeated through ages until it tires itself
That's not the point of DD2's story though. Did you even get the ending of UM?

>>484346081
The concept behind Unmoored World is better than any questline FROM ever came up with, it's only failing point is being too easy.
Saving the cities works in DD2 because it's filled with NPCs you talk to and care about and the game makes you want to be the hero.
The world of Elden Ring is fucked. There's no fixing it even if the game says otherwise because every place I'm presented with as a player is a dilapidated, hollowed out ruin filled with insane people that attack you on-site and monsters.
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>>484346448
Y-yeah?
The same point still stands.
Fromsoft demon souls clones and evolutions aren't going to be good forever, anon. They're going to have a flop eventually and the longer it takes the worse it's going to be.
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>>484346515
>The world of Elden Ring is fucked. There's no fixing it
You didn't play the game
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>>484346515
I didn't give a shit about any Dragon's Dogma 2 NPC and none of their characters have any presence at all as the story tales nonsensical turns and you chase and then ally with characters you didn't even meet or know their real agenda in the first place.
Elden Ring bosses and NPCs have real presence and their backstory which ties in a net of relationships with other bosses and NPCs, and the whole DLC pushed even further of that making it the focus of the main quests.
A lot of characters in Elden Ring put their hopes in the player to restore the world and have each their vision of how it should be. The world of Elden Ring speaks through its enviroment and characters and you can draw an actual timeline of events which shows how the tragic events that brought the land in its current state came to be. Having a bunch of NPCs running around slapping each other for the player would dimish that. It goes beyond saving a bunch of nameless NPCs, it's about drawing a vision of that world and completely reshaping it in a new age.
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>died to Radahn with 1 hit left twice in a row
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>>484340118
Havent seen anyone turn on it aside from the obvious Radahn ending which I don't think many people liked from the beginning, other than that it's been a pretty top tier DLC.
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>>484343042
I did that yesterday and watched half of Rush Hour 3 while I waited. Except I waited on the elevator button.
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>>484343820
Well as long you yourself knew you were wrong



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