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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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>Previous
>>484487141
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Code Vein is better
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>>484501601
>vaare and mohg were good guys all this time
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You know how you wanted to do that bow-only playthrough some day but also wanted to not kill yourself in frustration?
transfer one of these babies
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St. Trina is my wife and I'm her promised consort! I love my cute sleepy wife!
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>>484501778
that bow needs like 40dex, what do i use until i have the stats?
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finally beat the duo gargoyles for the first time since launch
has anyone ever beaten them solo? bullshit bossfight
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How good is 1h great katana? I'm planning a faith build with a flame art melee weapon + offhand sacred seal, can't decide between it and a fire knight sword. From what i remember ~1 year ago this setup was kinda trash in pvp though, apart from the zwei crutch poke + catch flame true combo.
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Anybody go that Miquella Oreimo picture?
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>>484501731
Ansbach is good. Mohg is not.
And Ansbach is good because he mellowed out and got old. He was seemingly a complete edgelord in his youth.
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how do I drain the underground area? I found the elevator to the storehouse but no way to drain the water.
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>>484502092
the lever is above those bats near the church
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>>484501949
Bone bow is pretty funny
>>484502092
There is a separate path opposite of where you went to the storehouse with a Marika statue with a skibidi fragment on it and the path has bats along it, follow it and climb the ladder
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Ultimately a boring character with no implact.
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>>484501731
No. Varre is still a religious zealot. (But given he was born to be, not really his fault). Mohg's entire dynasty was still built on a pillar of suffering.
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>>484502035
Still good because it still has running and crouch pokes and natural synergy with either Flaming Strike or Flame Spear is great.
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>>484502091
Who would Mohg have impregnated to form a dynasty in his original plan?
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What does being a God even mean in the world of ER if a random human can still kick your shit in with a sword?
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>>484502239
Mohg is the one getting impregnated.
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>>484502208
She's cute though
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>>484502239
Me
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Reading up on those death knights really showed me how much influence the undead loving whore had. A death cult that is seeping into Leyndell's nobility and Omen ranks, multiple renowned Tarnished warriors, and now Godwyn's elite dragon knights all fighting for her order. All while working under the nose of the GO.
Fia has way more hustle than any of the other legendary Tarnished.
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>>484502205
okay, so i give myself bone bow until i get the stats
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>>484502208
thats pretty much every character in the dlc
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>>484500936
You're mad people are having fun solving a puzzle you weren't smart enough to solve on your own. On my first run of Elden Ring I played with ashes and every tool at my disposal because I'm more interested in exploring the world than fighting bosses, I steamrolled Malenia with rivers of blood and Mimic tear, on my second playthrough which is the one I did the DLC on I decided to engage with the boss mechanics and learn them all properly

So as someone who's done both I can say the seethe from people who use summons is so much worse than the "YDBTG" crowd. The "you didn't beat the game" stuff is just lighthearted shittalking people who (I had assumed) didn't actually care about the "pride" or "honor" of beating a fucking video game boss anyway and just wanted to explore the world like I did, but the amount of genuine bitterness and malice from these people is insane. When I said online that I cheesed Malenia with mimic people just made fun of me, when I say I beat Radahn with no summons or shield and that he's a fun boss people start crying and telling me to kill myself, it's pathetic.
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>>484502307
>random human
Super human with God-killing weapons unable to die. Not because of no Rune of Death but because of Grace.
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best dlc pvp weapons that are not backhand blades?
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>>484501778
do you transfer arrows too or do you get them the fair way?
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>>484501957
I'd say they were the hardest fight in my RL1 naked straight sword only playthrough, took me around 20 tries
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rellanas twinblades, im confused. people say that having 50/50 int and faith makes the ash of war good.
but what about the regular attacks?
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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>484502491
fire knight ugs
throwing shield
lightning perfume
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>>484502571
Hes like the Golden Order without the optics
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>>484502571
That he hadn't been caught in the Total Hornsent Death genocide yet.
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Ok, immersion broken. I would never succumb to this faggot incubus.
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>>484502478
i NEED the source for a better quality version of your pic
please please please please please please please
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>>484502567
They're shit, naturally. You're not getting good value out of those unless you're deep in a NG cycle when having all 4 scaling stats is a thing you can feasibly do.
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good morning erg!!!
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>>484502713
aren't people use moonveil at least bisexual?
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>>484502567
>what about regular attacks
anon this is L2 the game
there's no such thing as regular attacks
you just spam AoW
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A good Hornsent is a dead Hornsent
A good Omen is a dead Omen
A good Albinauric is a dead Albinauric
A good Demihuman is a dead Demihuman
A good Misbegotten is a dead Misbegotten
A good Fire Giant is a dead Fire Giant
A good Troll is a dead Troll
A good Bloodfiend is a dead Bloodfiend

This is a human world, the rest of them are just living in it for the time being.
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>>484502478
>The "you didn't beat the game" stuff is just lighthearted shittalking
No. Some of them are just fucking around but you cannot seriously believe all or even most of the bitter niggers who respond to everything with ydbtg are just ribbing. Just look at the early DLC threads where people unironically tried to discourage people from upgrading the Scadu fragments and interacting with the DLC's core systems.

>engage with the boss mechanics
As someone who doesn't cheese because 99.5% of the cheese tactics look boring to me, you can't seriously pretend that greatshields or whatever cheese somehow don't interact with the boss's mechanics. They do. That's the reason why they're good against them, because the boss's mechanics are ineffective against turtling. They're still cheese but that doesn't mean you don't interact with the boss. Saying it doesn't count if you jump attacked someone to death (I fucking hate jump attacks in general because they look stupid) is like saying it doesn't count as beating Mohg if you took the anti-nihil tear. The game specifically gives you things to trivialize certain mechanics, and you don't need to use them if you don't want to for whatever reason, but that doesn't elevate you, it just means you played the game in a way enjoyable for you.
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>>484502776
so basically RL 300.
dangit... int/fth keeps on losing....
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>>484502713
He's very cute though.
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>>484502831
I thought zorayasbros were gone for good. Nice to see you're still alive.
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>>484502713
>dex/int build
>not gay
sure thing mate
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>>484502831
I don't have the webm on this phone.
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>>484502567
>but what about the regular attacks?
They do massive damage at level 200+. Which is actually pretty populated these days so...
Anyway the LGS moveset is fantastic although I unironically prefer the 1h moveset to the powerstance one
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>>484502567
normal attacks do more dps than the L2, L2 is good because you can chose range or aoe
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>>484502543
You have to skip the arrow parts otherwise it's unplayable. The bow needs too many arrows.
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/erg/ do you wanna see my cat?
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>>484502756
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120171914
google is your best friend nigger
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>>484502713
I've never been more immersed
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>>484502439
look up EldenRingSaveCopy.exe
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>>484502831
Morning~
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Dragon form needs precisely enough poise to tank a single throwing dagger before HA kicks in. Fuck from you unbalanced niggers
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>>484503104
thanks bro
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>>484503005
I'll complete the set
I think the two-handed moveset is super soulful
and practical too
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>>484503072
What kind of question is that?
Of course we want to see the kitty
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>>484503149
Throwing daggers ought to just not deal poise damage. In what universe is being staggered by a spammable, no-cost ranged tool healthy?
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>>484502713
anon will now receive the holy buttsex
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>>484503107
hot
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So how many attempts do you guys try before you decide its time to get the summons out? I'm up to attempt 10 on this guy and I'm starting to feel the desire to just use a spirit ash and move on already
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>Finished Ymir quest shit
So his whole deal is he is into mpreg basically?
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>>484503228
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>>484503319
One
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>>484502863
>>484502936
Moonveil barely even qualifies as a good weapon at this point. If I wanted Moonveil but good I'd be running STR Unsheathe Nagakiba with Bloodflame. Not that I have anything to prove to you fags but I never even used Moonveil prior to the DLC.
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>>484503361
Cute
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>>484503361
>>484503479
yeah move on /erg/ is a dog general
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>>484503479
Nice cat dude
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Also do I remember wrong, or did Greyol's roar have a lingering hitbox? Seems to be one burst now and just a huge opening after if you i-frame it.
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>>484502478
>nah I beat the game
>YOU'RE MAD [paragraph paragraph]
I think I know who's mad...
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>WORRY NOT, MY FAIR PRINCESS, OH MY FAIR MAIDEN HOSTCLITTY. IT IS I, MARVEL_ANIME_TRANSGENDER_RESPECTOR_69420 THAT SHALL DEFEND YOU FROM THIS EVIL, TRANSPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC, FAR-RIGHT FASCIST INVADER CHUD
>DO NOT SULLY YOUR HANDS MY MAIDEN FOR I SHALL BANISH THIS EVIL FUCKING NAZI TRUMP SUPPORTING CHUD GOD I FUCKING HATE HIM SO MUCH FROM OUR WORL-ACK
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>>484503356
yes
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>>484503319
Did you play DaS3? These guys are just the Sullyvahn Beasts with some new moves. Strafe to the side, sideroll its attacks, punish, roll the back attack, punish again. You can do this basically forever
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>>484503319
If you're not having fun use a spirit ash.
I usually wait until a second playthrough to do a summonless run. It's more fun when I'm able to prepare more for fights
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>>484501957
pretty easy if you don't get greedy and use a damage type that actually hurts them (strike, magic, standard)
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>>484503567
mental illness
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>>484503558
It was always like that. It's always been a really fucking bad spell. Decades of windup with no hyperarmour, easy to roll through, decades of recovery that gives up a free jumping R2/backstab/long windup WA if it's avoided.
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>>484503674
>These guys are just the Sullyvahn Beasts with some new moves
huh?
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>>484503567
post talismans
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>>484503567
Who are you quoting?
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>>484503361
3/10
>>484503479
9/10
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>>484501778
>transfer
Get to the DLC early and earn it yourself you coward
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>>484503567
mental acuity
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>invade people just doing PvE
>do nothing but spam swift slash
>feel joy that someone on the other side is frustrated with this
Maybe I AM the Dungeater
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>>484502713
FAGGOT
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playstation just gave me 2 currency units back in credit for pre-ordering cause they changed the price, not sure what im going to do with that but its neat.
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>>484503773
>>484503832
That guy's a well known schizo on this general who migrated here from dark souls, just ignore him and his inevitable meltdowns over invades, everyone else does
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>>484504063
most honest elden ring invasion
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>>484504063
insane wdc webm
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>running healer tank
>host and sunbro die
>feel bad
AAAAAAAA I DIDN'T SPAM HEAL FROM AFAR ENOUGH
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>>484504158
wdc?
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>>484502336
haunting photos taken seconds before disaster
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>>484503319
Like with most things, being PROPERLY tanky and spamming a high poise damage L2 with a big weapon is the solution.
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I hate that a lot of the good stuff were locked behind this lame fight. the dane's footwork specifically.
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>>484503479
>>484503361
cute cats give em a pat on the head and a chin rub from me
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>Chainsawing
You DID beat the game
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>>484504331
Lmfao this exploit is still in the game? What the fuck? Jesus christ fromsoft sucks.
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>>484502893
At least there's the new staff. That thing might enable new true combos due to spell chaining.
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>>484504331
SOOOOOO proud of you xister!!! you did beat the game!!!! keep chainsawing and you'll beat your gender dysphoria next!!!!!
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>>484504265
/dsg/ trannoid lingo, pay it no mind
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>host summons me and some other dude in Stormveil
>clear just about the entire level
>get invaded like four times throughout, all the invaders run into us and crumble immediately
I can't believe people still complain about invaders. Like for every 10 invasions you might get one guy who is competent, and even then competence can only go so far when up to three other players who can't hit each other are swinging at you, inadvertently staggering your attacks so you end up getting roll-caught no matter what.
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>dancer set + number 37 hair doesn't actually look like this in game
what the fuck...
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>>484503361
>>484503479
Cute cats
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>>484503792
Yes? They recycled the animation skeleton and several animations. The fight is fundamentally the same despite some new moves.
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>>484504524
My wife
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>radahn decide to fly around and only do clone attacks until I die
great
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>>484503107
I want to lick his feet. Any fanart of that?
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>>484504604
I have a lot more respect for rannibros since I have found my wife (St. Trina) and now I understand.
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>can't kill grandam
TOTAL HORNSENT DEATH TOTAL HORNSENT DEATH TOTAL HORNSENT DEATH
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do regular quality builds get anything in the dlc?
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>>484504517
It's fine because I look like that
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>FAI got absolutely insane new invader tools that help you effortlessly control entire crowds
>INT got uhhh gravity missile i guess
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>1000 years
>but have to be completely alone, no kids, no pets, no interaction with anyone
TFW you simp so hard you fuck your life up permanently
Should have just went with Goldmask
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>>484504682
>lick
>not cum on
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I beat Radahn with the perfume bottles. I'm not proud of it, but it's a weight off my chest.
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>>484504417
yeah some anon gave his ahk script couple days ago lol. had to tweak it a bit but it worked.
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>>484504490
At most I agree when you're underleveled as a complete noob you struggle with invastions. Yeah honestly I can't remember the last time we lost to an invader, if anything I'm almost excited to get invaded.
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>>484504727
Gravity missile aimed at the ground is absolutely nuts, though.
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>>484504708
proof?
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>>484504727
int has been pointless since they nerfed stars of ruin, the only spell I even like now is ice tornado, kamehameha which takes a physic tear AND was also nerfed recently, and weapon summoning aka blue flame spells

faith already had lightning and fire. my generalist mage main dropped all INT spells and just uses mlgs now, it saves 4 weight on a staff.
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>>484504739
As if you would deserve it.
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>>484504727
>INT got uhhh gravity missile i guess
Nigga that one spell is all you need. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous how strong that is and it has multiple options for a fucking TRUE COMBO

I'd take that any fucking day of the week over a 7 second pillar of life that's in actuality a suicide button against anybody with a brain.
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>>484504736
You have your wife Ranni and now all of humanity has free will because of your actions
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>>484504691
you can kill her if you draw a bead on her from outside the no combat zone
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>>484504671
Afterimages with mass?!
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>>484501601
So I was checking Japanese twitter. People here saying the Japanese text clearly said Radahn isn't charmed are all liars lol. Most of the Japanese said that it's ambiguous and how you view Miquella depends on whether Radahn is charmed or not. They are just as clueless as us
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>>484504995
I wish St. Trina (my wife) had her own ending so that the whole world would know the bliss of naps.
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>>484504968
>Nigga that one spell is all you need
It'll be nerfed like every good INT spell was.
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>>484504525
i think they got lazy with this dlc...
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>>484504063
I do this precisely to make casualshitters cry about it an get it removed from the game.
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Are there ties between the Omen and Hornsent? Just got to the part where it reveals Marika was whipped like the nasty hoe she was when she wa young.
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If I don't like square off and unsheathe, what's the best way to deal good posture damage to Radahn on a dex build?
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It's weird how small the map feels when you've done everything
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>I invade someone
>I spam l2 of greatsword of damnation
>Pic related
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man all the under 2 bucks stuff on psn is dogshit, the best one i've seen so far is dead island (which I already have on ps3) there rest are babies first game maker project tier
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Why'd they make him cute?
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>>484505360
Repeating Thrust or Blood Tax
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>>484501448
How long dragons live, or how large they grow, and how healthy they are, etc, isn’t without the magic that upholds them, to a literal point—they’re too heavy, too big, to realistically fly. They need too much food, etc. What truly sustains them? Magic.

Even a dragon’s scales and fire are dyed in vibrant colours, and some are known to breathe blue or even gold fire. Or a mix of such. Balerion breathed black-and-red flames, something Drogon carries over.

When magic goes away. They shrivel up, to account for how they cannot fly. They barely grow larger than a cat. They don’t breathe fire because that would kill them. Everything about dragons in asoiaf is an aberrant fact; including how they’re even assumed to have been made, or bred. All dragons are chimeras, technically, and as a consequence can only be described as part-reptilian, part-abomination.

The foul sorcery that produced them was horrific, or possibly of a parasitic nature, if we are to consider those *things* inside Aerea (pic related), cooking her from the inside out, actual firewyrms. Dragon eggs even stay dormant like worm eggs.

Dragons are a hybrid of wyvern (fire-less ‘dinosaurs’ from the southern continent) and wyrm (human hating serpents of the deep) genes, and aren’t natural at all.

Valyrians were fucking evil and twisted to the max. Targaryens descend from these people.

— ‘By any name, it was an evil place. The dragonlords sent their worst criminals to the Isle of Tears to live out their lives in hard labor. In the dungeons of Gogossos, torturers devised new torments. In the flesh pits, blood sorcery of the darkest sort was practiced, as beasts were mated to slave women to bring forth twisted half-human children.‘

Magic is like pseudo-radiation in asoiaf. It moves around. Alive. It’s also a sick fuck.
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>>484505393
post webms, greatsword of damnation is hilarious
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>>484505371
It feels big when you're doing stuff because there's lots of stuff to do, but it feels small when you've done all the stuff because you realize the map was made just big enough to hold all the stuff and not unbelievably vast for the fuck of it like some of the base game areas.
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Wake up babe newest hostcel killer just dropped
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nevermind salt and sanctuary is on here, now were getting to the maybes. thanks for the rebate sony
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>>484502713
Now that you say it, "Incubus" would be a great name for a RadahnxMiquella doujin
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>>484502436
Igon and Ansbach were great.
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>>484505393
My favourite is dunking on the host and the sweatlord phantom that spent the whole time trying desperately to peel with Swift Slash swaps to Damnation just a second too late and grabs me after his girlfriend is already seeing a loading screen
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>>484505532
>In the flesh pits, blood sorcery of the darkest sort was practiced, as beasts were mated to slave women to bring forth twisted half-human children
Haha…
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>>484505532
that's fucked up. please go on, it's interesting but also horrifying. i read the base books about a song and ice of fire and i never expected that of the valyrians.
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Need Miqqy hugs. Love the Miqqer.
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How do I progress Moore's quest? I can't find him.
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>>484505080
open ending on a characters actions, do you rike?
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>>484505827
Did you draw this anon? Cutee
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>>484505575
is ansbach bow viable without the ash of war?
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What are the best pve spells for a dragon communion build? Is there something I should aim for on the dlc?
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>>484505902
nolol
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>>484505827
I fucking hate miqqers
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You homos never answer my questions. I assume you fags know little to nothing about the Elden Ring story.
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>>484505906
rot and cold, everything else is trash
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>>484505827
Anon, I fear you got miquellested
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>>484505827
creepy face
>>484505850
save us vaatividya
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>hear jolan and anna are a good ash
>get them
>try them out against the troll in front of the Godrick boss door
>they get annihilated
I guess I'll keep using the mimic
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My attempt at getting from the haligtree prayer room bonfire to the next without my co-op phantom dying currently has a 100% failure rate after 7 different players. Only one death was due to an invader.
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>>484505247
Abuse early, abuse often
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>>484505827
I WILL hug him
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>>484505348
Omen are the product of the Hornsent curse upon Marika's order after they got fucked
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Did you get burnt out trying to clear everything?
I'm on my first playthrough and doing everything in the weeping peninsula is kinda tiring
Some of the stuff I've found like the flask and spell memory upgrades are obviously good but a lot of the actual dungeon rewards feel superfluous (and the rune amounts aren't great)
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>>484504736
>big tit ranni
stop it, get some help
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>>484505867
No. It's from @haligtreeOracle. Same as the "I'm delusional" pic.
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>>484505839
If he's already gone it means one of two things, you told him to put it behind him which means you won't see him until the end of the DLC or you told him to stay sad forever and he's already dead.
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>>484505827
I WILL suck his cock
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>>484504695
sword lance and a couple other weapons i think.
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>>484506149
Are those... Boobs?! And is he grown up?!? Get this abomination away from me
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>Friend (fujo) actualy made me soften in relation of these two being together.
I still think it's character assassination on both parts, but i don't despise it as much as when the leaks dropped.
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>>484506305
Miquella is a dumb fucking troon faggot who sucks the cock of a dead guy because "muh gentler world" and I shit in his mouth with rolling sparks, fuck miquella.
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>>484506245
No, I dont think I will.
Its just a consequence of her heritage.
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Can you cheat in Scoobydo fragments? I've done the DLC twice so far and each time I collected all of them. Now on my third character I really don't want to be forced to collect them.
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>>484506305
Man, who the fuck types shit like this? Fucking faggot. Why do you fucking freaks always leak out of your containment discords? What, did you see everyone's cocks there and get bored? Kill yourself.
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>>484503319
I've used rat ashes on both Replescent and Gaius because they're horse niggers (that's cheating)
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>>484506379
They probably just posted some art that looks good right? That can help you cope with anything, but it's still cope.
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>>484505906
There's really only like 5 dragon spells:
Claw (plus the new "claw but bigger)
Maw
Roar (plus the new "roar but bugged"
Magma
And then like 12 recoloured breath spells.

Rot breath is the best breath against anything you can rot. Ghostflame Breath powercrept Ice Breath as the best breath for raw damage. Magma and Roar are worthless. Claw is good for certain big enemies it can stagger and stunlock. Maw does the most damage and can stagger Tree Sentinels but is super slow.
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Goodnight /erg/, I will return to post more about St. Trina (my wife) tomorrow.
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Deflect makes enemies a complete joke when paired with a shield or even a large sword due to how it's just an iverpowered extra on top of safe blocking. If they actually want to incorporate deflecting, it should be something exclusive to weapons lighter than greatswords when guarding, that activates automatically but is mistimed fucks you up. It's just not a good iteration otherwise.
I get that it's probably testing ground for guture games like all DLCs are, but I hope that it's not indication that we are getting another parryslop centric game. Deflection should be a secondary mechanic, possibly the gimmick of some weapons designed around it. My hope os for something that mixes and expands the great elements of Elden Ring Ashes of War, jumps and builds, with limb targeting system and expanded movesets of Bloodborne, possibly a refined iteration of both.
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>>484506379
>character assassination
MAYBE for Radahn, but we know very little about him beyond being incredibly ambitious so marrying a god makes sense. We also know that Miquella is incest pilled, and was exposed to literal divine incest from a young age. Plus sexuality as we see it doesn’t seem to matter to the pantheon in ER.
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>invade
>spawn next to moonthiryll
>a good day
>host and 2 buttbuddies notice this and now refuse to engage
>they start pelting arrows
>feign like I'm leaving so they'll try to kill her
>hear them engage her
>she aggro'd up the ladder and started 1v3
>before I even get there I get HOST SLAIN
>she won the 1v3 alone

what a fucking chad
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>>484506512
don't care, didn't ask, cope. seethe, stay mad
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There's no homoshit in this game. If you think there is then what that's called is projecting and you're the one who is actually gay. Which is bad. Because being gay means you're instantly a failure at life.
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>>484506379
I love them now
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Why do people defend Ranni doing literally everything wrong?
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>>484506565
Why are shota-obsessed subs so dangerous?
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>>484506305
so many based posters in a single general...
where the fuck is the cock
>>484506597
miquella should be incest pilled with his sister, not radahn
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Total Rellana Death
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>>484506234
nah after doing a ton of all 165 boss runs i find optimizing my route in dungeons and between dungeons fun now
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>>484506551
r8 my incantation loadout
>Knights Lightning Spear for ranged
>Dragonclaw for groups of enemies
>Wrath of Gold for a "Get off me" button
>Flame Grant me Strength for a general buff
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>>484506635
>There's no homoshit in this game.
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The story makes more sense with Radagon and Marika now with the information that gods/demigods can physically split aspects of themselves off into different beings.
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>>484506305
Not before I do.

>>484506512
Straight, high testosterone males type shit like that.
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>>484506629
Literally kill yourself. I can't wait for your discord faggots to turn their drama on you, it always happens, you porn-obsessed, touch-starved, gooning FAGGOT.
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>>484506743
Actually true, I prefer them together, divine twincest is peak. I’m biased though because I want to fuck my actual older sister and self insert as Miquella. I wish they’d gone that route in the DLC.
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>>484506912
Are you the AI schizo too? You type like him
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>activate grace
>your character is nowhere near it
literally unplayable garbage refunded
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>>484506712
no one knows
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>>484506743
Miquella and malenia would have been the far better twin princes ripoff
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sleep sex with st trina
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>>484506880
I hear there's high concentrations of Testosterone released in lead as well as when you pull a trigger. I have an idea, get a shotgun, put your mouth around the barrel (It's easy, just pretend it's a cock!) and pull the trigger. You'll get a MASSIVE rush of test.
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Why does "You didn't beat the game" trigger such a kneejerk reaction, I said that to one of my friends as a joke and he was like "OMG IM USING THE GAME'S MECHANICS" why do people take it so personally? This game is a fucking meme
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>>484506052
Did you level up jolan before transforming it into +anna? People are saying there's a bug that makes it super weak.
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>>484506778
wrath of gold is too expensive and too low range

Golden Vow, Howl of Shabriri, Knight's Lightning Spear, ADLS, Unendurable Frenzy, Frenzied Burst, optional x4 which is usually some combo of Black Flame, normal Lightning Spear, Rotten Breath, Scarlet Aeonia, Giantsflame Take Thee, Erdtree Heal, Multilayered Ring of Light, Light of Miquella, Pest Threads (NG only)
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Me having sex with Ranni and Miquella
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>>484507054
>Light of Miquella x Waterfowl Dance collab
yea im busting out the spirit ashes for that one
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>>484506991
uhhhhhh that's too much info
>>484507054
agreed
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>>484505784
— ‘Ser Lucamore said that the princess's fever was so hot that he could feel it through his armor. She had blood in her eyes and her body had "something inside her, something moving", the knight said, until the king forbade him from speaking of the princess. Benifer left no account of Aerea's death, but according to an account in Barth's private papers, Aerea's fever was one unlike anything he had seen before.’

— ‘The girl was burning. Her skin was flushed and red and when I laid my hand upon her brow to learn how hot she was, it was as if I had thrust it into a pot of boiling oil. There was scarce an ounce of flesh upon her bones, so gaunt and starved did she appear, but we could observe certain…swellings inside her, as her skin bulged out and then sunk down again, as if…no, not as if, for this was the truth of it…there were things inside her, living things, moving and twisting, mayhaps searching for a way out, and giving her such pain that even the milk of the poppy gave her no surcease.’

— ‘Barth reported that "swellings" moved underneath the princess's skin, possibly searching for a way to escape and causing a great pain. He wrote "I pray that I shall soon forget some of the things she whispered", and that she often begged for death. It seemed to Barth as if Aerea was cooking from within. Her flesh grew darker until it resembled pork cracklings; smoke came from her mouth, nose, and her nether regions. Aerea's eyes cooked within her skull until they burst. When the princess was lowered into the tub of ice, "slimy, unspeakable things" making horrible sounds emerged from under her skin—one as long as his arm—but the "creatures of heat and fire" died from the cold of the ice.’

— ‘The things…Mother have mercy, I do not know how to speak of them…they were…worms with faces…snakes with hands…twisting, slimy, unspeakable things that seemed to writhe and pulse and squirm as they came bursting from her flesh.’
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>>484506912
Stand proud little chuddie
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Radagon, Messmer and Melina are Marika's children by the Fell God.
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>>484506991
You need to seriously kill yourself
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>>484507213
I see now why Miyazaki clicked with the Fat Man
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>meet her
>exhaust her dialogue
>she tells me to fuck off
>rest at grace
>try to talk to her
>still told to fuck off
What a bitch. Why do people simp for her?
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The egg is Miquella's actual physical form, he was actually more cursed than his sister but blessed with mind control.
He wanted to cast off his body like Ranni the entire time.
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>>484507213
I see my man GRRM is a Heaven's Feel enjoyer
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>>484507192
>>484507315
You wouldn’t get it
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>Verification not required
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why the fuck does Gaius charge deal too much health?
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>>484507192
kek
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>>484507361
I love how catlike she is
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>>484507361
Shouldn't the MC of this game be considered the most important person to ever live and garner crazy respect and a lot of cock sucking? We accomplish more than anyone ever has in this reality.
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>>484507192
>Malenia, cured of rot
>First phase is pretty similar to the in-game one, probably less fancy because she's not blind now and doesn't do that water style fighting
>second phase
>>484507186
>this happens
Would have been cancer, yes, but kino
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>>484507131
cause the limits you set for yourself are good enough, and its pretty condescending when you actually try and still get "you didn't beat the game" like when I beat malenia at level 60 with not very upgraded weapons I didn't even get a well done. its always just insults and that has become the norm so essentially insulting them more won't have any effect beyond just pissing them off.
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>>484507213
Why is magic so fucked in GoT? Wasn’t there a guy who chopped off a boy’s junk to speak to some blue flame demon? The eunuch guy I mean.
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>>484507512
What is Dragoncrest Talisman
What is Boiled Prawn
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>>484507562
At that point we haven’t accomplished shit
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>>484506234
You can probably collect all missables (including the NPC questlines) and get to the end of the game in well under 12 hours. The only problem is grinding the duelist weapons and outfit. Everything else can be collected at any point.
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>>484507512
literally just block it
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>>484507146
nope, only leveld it after combining them
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>>484507512
i mean im pretty sure you'd end up straight to izalith if an armored boar with titanium tusks rammed you at full speed
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>>484507512
Normally an attack is a single hitbox that can only hit the same target once and then deactivates.
Gaius' charge is actually several different overlapping hitboxes that persist for a second and then are replaced with new ones constantly, so it can hit you multiple times in each instance of damage, and hit you repeatedly for as long as you're touching him.

Similar to the bug that let bleed dogs deal millions of damage a second, except here it was done intentionally.
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>>484507626
It is a cruel, bloodthirsty, pedophilic force of “nature”
It is no coincidence, the *children* of the forest …
It can be compared to tossing to a beast a piece of meat
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>>484507708
i summoned them for the ganksquad and they stunlocked and bled freyja to death by themselves
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>>484507638
I already have the dragoncrest talisman.
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>>484501601
So how much of mohgs insanity was due to micks mind control? Was he always so quick to murder everyone while living in a blood filled shithole or was that the homolust?
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last tangentially related question I swear, is salt and sanctuary a good "dark souls" game?
I am a nerd for ds1 so, I should enjoy it yeah?
gotta spend that rebate on something and thats all that stands out to me. (also dreamfall cause I never played it back when, but its the sequel not the first one so pass)
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So Miquella x Malenia bros all want to fuck their sisters...
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>>484507709
if i were to get crushed into a wall by a raging 7 feet high boar with as you mentioned plated tusks and 1 ton of armour then eh i had it coming if i get oneshot.
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>>484507213
lol’d at the relevant image
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>>484507936
Isn't this whole game incest?
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>>484507835
Dragoncrest talisman + ritual shield talisman + blue-feathered branchsword + opaline hardtear + crimson bubbletear + black flame's protection + sacred ground + endure + fingerprint + barricade + shield talisman
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>>484507920
i heard that the first one was good but the sequel is complete fucking ass
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>>484507434
I want to know anon
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>>484507968
>>484506991
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>>484507936
did people just pretend to watch game of thrones or what? incest is wincest. Jamie Lannister won. the one that dies in the desert lands was so undeserved that I actually laughed when cersei did the same to her eventually and I am not a sadistic person usually
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>>484507892
His worship of the Formless Mother was all him.
The plan to make manlove to his boywife until they got asspregnant was all Miq.

It's also likely that the Miquella was behind the Bloody Fingers as well, turning to Tarnished to acquire sacrifices after Ansbach became suspicious, and thus he couldn't rely on the Pureblood Knights anymore.
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>>484507936
People who are against incest just have ugly siblings
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There will be an Elden Ring 2 and you will deal with that fact.
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>>484507721
well that explain the damage.
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>>484508074
No I get it, that anon is mentally ill, it's just this whole game in regards to relationships is incest. Everyone in ER is either fucking their brother or sister.
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I still don't know how some people are still taking Elden Ring's lore seriously.
I mean, I guess Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Sekiro make sense (but also no need to fellate them). But Elden Ring is a clusterfuck because G.R.R.M. is a hack.
Why can't anyone see that?
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>>484508041
thats a shame, I just learned there even was a sequel. I guess I have no reason not to grab it
>>484508167
I look forward to it and the tv show
and hbo bloodborne, which has about as much proof of existence as the dark souls shows at this point but I refuse to let hbo forget they announced it was in production like the dark souls shows (they tried twice to my knowledge)
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>>484508158
If anything, maybe fucking his boywife kept him too busy to be extra murdery
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Ranni handjob
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>>484507709
you wasted time summoning your mimic instead of dodging/strafing. Absolute state of summoncucks
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>>484508276
The only part of this game GRRM wrote was the stupid royalty dynamics, who is fucking who, who wants to kill who for the throne, etc. Miyazaki is literally everything else.
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>>484508276
George wrote like 2 pages about the basic backstory of Elden Ring, this is squarely on Miyazaki.
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Does getting the Black Wolf Mask screw anything up? I havent played in years but remember Blaidd not being a fan of it.
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>>484508365
>4 arms
go on...
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>>484508276
Why are you being stupid? This isn’t his fault. He wrote something for Miyazaki to INTERPRET. They met with him ONCE.

Do you REALLY think Rellana would be some oc donut steel type character in his eyes? Really? Miyazaki even said that he would be shocked.

It’s not George, it’s the production team.

For all you know George never even had the idea to make Malenia so badass.
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I saw someone with a gigantic boar helmet, how do you get it?
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>Elden Ring is just an elaborate endorsement of big dick anal
That's wild yo.
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>>484508420
>>484508439
>>484508461
Oh, my fault then. Guess Miyazaki let his fame go over his head or became senile then?
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>>484508276
The story makes more sense now, just people are trying to reinforce the headcanon that the community already came to.
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>>484508451
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>>484507152
I'm trying to keep it at like 3-4 incantations. Mostly melee with some spells for niche situations.
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So when will we get a mod that adds a boss rush mode? I want to refight some of these bosses.
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>>484508418
solo'd that guy personally. someone just shared that webm yesterday
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>got hit by jump attack several times with big hammer
>still no stagger
how many poise does Gaius have?
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This is the most powerful character in the lore. You cannot kill him. He is above and beyond the player. He needs no HP bar.

Not even Radahn+Miquella would prevail, and you know it’s true for a fact.
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>>484508575
brainrot
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>>484508232
rykard and ranni both married well outside the family
i suppose there's that theory about ranni being betrothed to godwyn, but she already made sure that wasn't happening
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>>484508541
>The story makes more sense now
Miquella is now more confusing of a character than before.
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>>484508650
all the dlc bosses have 120 posture except romina who has 80. use some throwing knives or something to keep his posture from regenerating
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>>484506515
And arguments too, she sent me a fanfic she wrote for an anon here
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>>484507709
>Mage fag
>Wastes time summoning his meat shield mimic
>Forgets he can use torrent
The absolute state of shitters.
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I know the jar cannon is objectively a stronger weapon, but I like the way the hand ballista looks, you know?
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Could you use greases as lube? If you apply shield grease on your dick can you stop worrying about DST? Would magic grease make I fuck like a M A G I C I A N? What about holy grease, the divine cock?
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>>484508650
I managed to stagger him a lot with DMGS but I used the poise breaking Tear and it had to be fully charged R2s
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>>484508662
Could a meteor Radahn smash it? Hmm.
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>>484508062
Personality wise we’re perfect for each other, idk I’ve been obsessed with her for ages honestly, basically since I discovered I liked girls. The happiest I’ve ever been was when we were living together for a little bit. We also just fit the mold of Miquella/Malenia pretty well.
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>>484508650
All the bosses have the same posture but their "turn" is so long that it triggers their regen, which gives a lot of them effectively infinite posture unless you cheese them.
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>>484508905
>since I discovered I liked girls
Are you also a woman?
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i keep trying to make a new character but i just can't, this game is way too big it would take me at least a 100 hours to finish it again
and if i use my already existing character for newgame+ then i can't do colloseums anymore
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Why is Senessax beefier than Bayle
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>>484508667
what did he mean by this???
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>>484508836
I imagine it would feel like what happens when you put icy hot accidentally on your genitals.
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>invading the same 3 man gank squad of 2 bone bows and a ansbachs bow over and over
I don’t have an image to describe this bullshit. I think I’ll be in the right to chainsaw them if I invade them again.
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Grabbing Miquella's tiny waist and blowing raspberries on his tummy.
PFFFTHBTHBTHBTHBTHBTHBFFFFFFFFFFFFTHBTHBBBBBBBFFFFfff!
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>>484508662
>you cannot kill him
>>>>above and beyond the player
I can glitch his ass though
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>>484508836
apply some dragonwound grease
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The lusty ancient dragon, Sexxex.

SEEEEEEEX
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>>484508929
I posture broke divine beast and the hippo multiple times. You just gotta eat shit and keep attacking even if they're beating you to death.
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>>484508738
alright thank
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>>484507936
That's just one person...
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>>484509019
I'd rather blow something else
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>summoned into a Radahn
>host has 13 skibidi
>even still all he has to do is let me handle it and we'll win
>rush in, in phase 2, can't dodge anything, and dies
What the fuck are these people doing
What are they doing?
What the fuck are they doing?
What the fuck.
What can I possibly do in this situation? He even dodged my heal from afar.
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Hoes mad
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>>484508685
>get married to your goth girl sorceress half sister
>she fucking kills your soul and kicks off eternal war
>marries some random tarnished instead
Fucking brutal
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If Messmer breaks his eye to unleash his snake curse, does a curse release when Miquella abandons his eye?
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>>484508716
Radagon and Markia make more sense with the knowledge that gods can split themselves into different physical beings.
Also seems to make them more obsessed without the conflicting ideas and emotions.
What is left of Miquella seems to mostly just care about making everyone love and worship him after casting off Trina and his cursed physical body.
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>>484508276
im not, I have literally referred to the dlc lore as "similar to fallout 4s which isn't good" people are still so dumbfounded by radahn2 that even loretubers are assuming everything we learned in the base game was because characters were just straight up lying to us or something (this was one theory I had about melina at one point anyway but even then, wheres the truth then?)

i've heard so many "actually that was retconned" including frenzied flame that i'm not sure I care anymore, a bit like fallout 4...
the only reason I do is because I haven't personally confirmed it myself in game. for now.
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>>484509053
Nope, he is above you, just like Azur and Lusat.
Even “unkillable” npcs like Miriel are killable.
The big mighty jar man and the two crystal wizards are beyond you.
That’s just how it is.
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>>484507131
Anyone would be annoyed if you stomped on their accomplishment. At some point community went from "git gud" to "you need to restrict yourself" and it's never recovered since. You can climb a wall just fine but some people need the rope, just how it is.
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>>484508662
Total Jar Death
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>>484501778
>some day
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Are there any STR/INT weapons this expansion? Why is From so allergic to this stat combo?
>But what about the Moonrithyll's Knight Sword
Literal copy/paste of the Troll Knight Sword with worse weapon art.
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>>484509232
you know what I can do that the jar, azur and lusat can't?
I can fucking move
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>>484509175
stop asking questions bro
morgott could seal his curse in a fucking sword
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>>484509423
based
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>>484508965
No, I could’ve worded that better. I mean like when I first started getting romantic/sexual feelings. I did get mistaken for a girl 9/10 times when I was a kid though, but that doesn’t happen anymore. I’m still pretty feminine though desu. Or I guess androgynous. I kind of want to do a Miquella cosplay.
>>484509112
Don’t be rude I love your art.
>>484509128
Most people fucking suck ass at this game
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Perfumes on the offhand seem pretty nice, at last for PVE. Wonder how well they do in PVP.
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>>484508716
Hes about a hundred times more straightforward now, cope
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caelid is still my favorite area
>the sense of danger, even if you're a veteran
>the mystery and exploration
>both high and low level areas confined to the same region
>unique setting and theme; it reminds me of a condensed Morrowind
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>>484509423
The jar can move, he just has no reason to.
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>>484509512
>straightforward
>straight
I dunno about that....
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>>484509280
this should be mandatory viewing at this point
https://youtu.be/blSXTZ3Nihs
PLEASE watch the whole thing and please understand, its important. it will help you in life.
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>>484509423
>implying the great jar can’t sit up and do a continent wrecking spin
>implying azur and lusat aren’t projecting themselves into the astral
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>>484509175
do we ever see miquella's eyes? i remember the st.trina depiction on the torch or whatever has them covered.

he might have fucked up eyes that give him away unless you're charmed or a seal.
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>>484506601
This is why I never invade without a ranged option. Shitters will never engage into anything even remotely disadvantageous unless you piss them off really badly. Golem Arrow Greatbows excelled at this.
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>decide to try Mimic out
>it dies easier than some summons
I don't get it.
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I still can't believe Morgott is such a chad, why did he get done so dirty gameplay wise
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>>484509802
You need to upgrade it.
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Is Fire Scorpion Charm worth it? Or is it just as bad as Soreseal?
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>>484509848
already at 10+
The greatshield skeletons seem more reliable than this
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>>484509802
Needs to be fully upgraded. Need good items on your bar, and even then you also need to have a good loadout of either weapon or spells.
Once your build is finished, regardless of what it is, it's far and away the best summon and it's not even close.
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So this was his actual form all along and he was using his mind control powers and made a plan to cast off his body?
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Is commander gaius supposed to be dogshit on purpose because this fight is dogshit
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>>484506840
Miquella mindraping you into loving him doesn't make you a homosexual. Sure, he is a faggot but it's limited to him.
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>>484509568
Caelid is cool, but too forgiving. Dragonbarrow is meh because it doesn't really have anything in it and I don't like the constant raining.
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doing a fist only run and some enemies i cant even fucking reach with fist weapons. Like godrick for some fucking reason wont get hit by some swings even when i am right up in his grafted cock punching away at it. Even the smallest short sword or dagger can reach enemies but fists man are so fucking short reaching. this shit kind of blows but im going to persevere through this .
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>>484509280
The mentality comes from the fact that the essence of these games is experiencing the interplay with a boss through its moveset and mechanics, and fromsoft's easymode tools to help reviewers give their games good ratings are all built on the idea of NOT engaging with that interplay to allow someone who is disinterested, distracted, disenfranchised and lazy to blow through the game in 2 weeks and write about how it's a masterpiece.

In previous games this was well understood. You can play sorcery in Dark Souls 1 if you want but you're skipping the essence of the game and only depriving yourself of the experience--and so magic wasn't popular except for people who've already experienced every other facet and are making a game of breaking the game. And in Dark Souls 2 it was well understood that you literally could not lose while holding a greatshield--and players intuitively understood they could bust out the greatshield to trivialize a boss they weren't having fun fighting but that they should probably try most things without it first.

It's only with elden ring that the game reached this audience of disaffected binge-gamers that are only interested in blowing through a game using the path of least resistance, experiencing as little of it as possible, learning as little about it as possible and getting to the end like seeing the credit roll is in and of itself the accomplishment. "You didn't beat the game" doesn't mean "you failed to accomplish the goal" but that you literally, L I T E R A L L Y failed fundamentally to experience a fucking videogame, because you were in too much of a hurry to get to the next one on your list and didn't take your time to engage with its gameplay. Petulant children making tier lists where anything but the pickaxe isn't 'beating the game' are the ones blew through it, and lash out at the perceived slight from people telling them all the fucking videogame they missed that they shit the bed in screeching irony.
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Anyone else find the yellow-green lighting in Scadu Altus extremely ugly?
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How the fuck are people like, level 150 by endgame?
I'm at after Godfrey, beat Haligtree (except Malenia) and beat Mohg and I'm like level 75.
I'm generally not dying much, so it's not like my runes are wasted.
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>>484509969
Promised vow means it was mutual at some point before all the shedding of identity and Radahn getting hit with the rot. Radahn just wanted to fight and die in battle before getting married and Miquella sent out Malenia to be his champion to get it done.
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>>484509418
The final boss weapons.
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>>484506693
Why do foids choose to intentionally draw the ugliest things ever? You never see ugly shit drawn by men. Unless they are trannies. What makes women and trannies so unappreciative of beauty?
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>>484510105
nailed it
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Ranni is a game and I’m a player
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>>484510218
maybe if you do many dungeons and generally kill everything instead of riding past

i dont know
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>>484510162
I hate yellow in general and think the majority of Elden Ring has intentionally ugly lighting because they pushed the GRACE OF GAULD thing way too far. Limgrave and Altus are absolute eyesores.
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>>484510218
If you go around trying to find everything on the map and full clear it you can end up over 150 by the end of the base game pretty easily.
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I haven't played since December of last year so i'm picking up where I left off
based off what I vaguely remember, I was doing volcano manor stuff

just a quick question, can I fight Rykard now after finishing Rya's quest or should I still do the 3rd assassination in the hilltop snowy area? (i havent figured out a way to get there yet)

I'm at altus Plateu but im not sure if i can just go up the big stairs or i'm missing something

i'm a Faith/Strength player if that means anything
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>>484510279
>What makes women and trannies so unappreciative of beauty?
bitterness that theyll never look like that
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Most streamers I watch going through the dlc are beating the remembrance bosses in just a few attempts and they aren't even summoning. They always took me like an hour each, at least. Multiple hours for Rellana.
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>>484510229
>according to the mindrapist
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>>484510218
I think the LOWEST i've been by morgott is 90 no wait 70 when I literally skipped everything else on my dragon guy that got respec'd cause I don't like dragon breaths just draining the fuck out of your fp bar taking 5 minute to cast and no hyperarmor, except claw and maw they're all shit, and greyolls, but my main uses that already anyway.
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>>484510319
god i wish ranni was real and told me to go fuck myself
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>>484510441
There has to be a point where we take what's said at face value otherwise there is no lore and everyone is an unreliable narrator.
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>>484510218
You have to either be dying more than you think, spending them on other stuff, or bypassing a lot of dungeons.
I made a character recently and just leveled up at the end of dungeons/after bosses and ended up at 129 right after the Fire Giant. Still have Farum Azula and the Ashen Capital to go.
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>>484510218
I'm not sure where the fuck your runes went buddy I was 120 before I set foot in Leyndell.
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>>484509661
>There is no secret weapon or piece of armor that's going to magically make all of this easy
Always funny to hear this, specially after L2 Ring
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>>484510528
>no you don't get it you HAVE TO believe the mindrapist becuase...YOU JUST HAVE TO
>It doesn't matter that we've already been fed false narratives in the game
>What the mindrapist says is 100% the honest truth even though his musclepuppet doesn't even say a single word
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>>484510528
Most of the DLC was about Miquella being a liar that used his powers to try to get everyone to love him and kill anyone that resisted.
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>>484510393
assassinations then after juno (AND patches one for magma whip and bhernals one which is a 2v2) talk to tanith AFTER Ryas dialogue has moved as far as it can and Don't you dare!
then equip the spear and jump tali and spam jump r2 (optional: with mimic out) for the free win, gold scarab + gold foot for 200k+ runes

build is irrelevant its a gimmick boss unless you DONT use the spear then its the hardest boss in the entire game.
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Showing off my Rurouni Tarnished-kun because I'm proud of the mods I done did for him.
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>>484510105
This all just boils down to the childish notion that if someone's not playing the game the way YOU want them to, they're not playing it right.
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>>484510746
welcome to the rice fields motherfucker
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>>484510678
dark bead existed back then, the point is valid enough. if you use super overpowered shit you are only cheating yourself.
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>>484510415
I hate beating bosses too quickly, because often it means you barely got much gameplay out of the best parts of the game. I died a bunch of times to Metyr's giant laser move in the last phase and then on my successful attempt I killed her before she could use it. I never mastered that move, never overcame it and I don't feel good about that. It's like beating Malenia because her AI bugged and never used waterfowl.
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>>484505463
he needs some facial hair or some stubble, then he would look even more like..
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>>484510678
Yeah dude ER is so much less balanced than ds1! You’re so right!
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>>484510679
The game calls him Promised Consort Radahn, not Miquella
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>>484510680
So he's even lying when he talks to himself? Even item descriptions lie? There has to be truth somewhere in what he says. You can't just dismiss all of it.
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>>484510869
Yeah, everything he tries to project into the minds of others is a lie, he even lied about the true form of his physical body.
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>>484510746
pls tell armor used, i love your style
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>>484510843
anyone got that clip of at least 4 people front backstabbing each other for no damage? fun times.
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>>484510692
just for the sake of saving time, how do i get to the mountaintop of giants area for the Juno bit?
do i need to reach Leyndell or is it before that?
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>Alright beloved sister and loyal blade of mine
>I need you to fight our half-brother Radahn because I want him to be my Lord
>Don't worry, he wants that he just doesn't know it yet
>Meanwhile I will wait here until our other half-brother Mohg comes to kidnap me
>Then I will mind fuck him and get him to water my cocoon with cursed blood so that I can go to shadow realm
>Radahn has to become my lord in the shadow realm because...because he just does okay?
>You probably aren't strong enough to kill Radahn so you just need to weaken him or something
>But don't worry, one day a tarnished will show up to finish the job and send his soul to the shadow realm for me
>That tarnished will also kill Mohg for me, you don't have to worry about that part
>IF you survive all that and make it back to the haligtree hopefully the tarnished will come put you out of your rotten misery too
>If all goes according to keikaku I'll be in the shadow realm getting my bussy pounded by our bro Radahn who I resurrected with the corpse of our other bro Mohg
>k thx byeeeeeeeeeee!
Not what I was expecting.
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>>484510969
>character uses mind manipulation
>this is my excuse to ignore everything he says
>why?
>because it's gay
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>>484509001
she's not
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>>484510848
No, it doesn't. It just calls him "Consort of Miquella." Miquella is the only one who says "promised consort."
Here are the facts we know:
1) Miquella is a lying, manipulative mindrapist.
2) Radahn behaves like a machine. Like a puppet, if you will.

What's the reasonable conclusion here? That they were madly in love? Fuck off.
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>>484509717
they look normal
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>>484511074
You see his actual deformed physical body he casted off.
He lies about everything.
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>invade
>slow walk around Stormveil like an NPC, spamming Lamentation
>if host ignores me and doesn't actively mess with my routine, i leave him be
>if he attacks, i go full Winter Lantern on his ass
This is so much fun
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>>484506379
Nigger they're half brothers; I don't think it's supposed to be perceived positively by well-adjusted people.
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>>484511073
Go to bed Miyazaki.
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>>484509802
it uses what you have equipped when you summon it, you may need to change your loadout a bit for maximum effectiveness
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>>484511062
oh man you got some progress to do, see I usually visit volcano when reaching altus first time cause Rya is a sweetheart and I never ignore her, get millicent to carry on her merry way (do this if you haven't, erd hill, detour to shaded for something important, but do not go to the boss, patches has an event here later too. and then windmill village) and after getting up to the red letter (Juno) you sort of forget volcano exists for a bit except the miniboss godskin noble and go back after the Juno invasion

you need to clear leyndell before you are able to reach mountains.
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>>484511179
People assumed he was a child physically, it turns out he is just obsessed with making everyone love him and do what he says like a spoiled child.
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>>484510218
you can only be level 75 if you do LITERALLY nothing besides fight main story bosses
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why do so many people in souls games care how others play, its just a singleplayer

please help me understand
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>>484511113
Phase 1 is called Promised Consort Radahn. Phase 2 is Radahn, Consort of Miquella.
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>>484511260
I'm allowed to think their duo boss design looks pretty great though. Especially their remembrance. I'm sad they aren't actually really fighting as one because if they were this would be even better.
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>>484509661
If the bosses aren't annoying, sure. Like for god sake, stop creating bosses that mess with the camera pov while they are flying around in the sky.
Doing an honest run is such a slog in this DLC for some bosses unlike the base game bosses.
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>>484511435
Even from the main story bosses you hit like 100
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>>484510974
Dryleaf Robe (with a few texture and model modifications), Dryleaf armwraps, Land of Reeds greaves (with texture modifications), and Iron Kasa (replaced with Straw Hat model I found on Nexus).
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>>484511450
a lot of people who summon will reply to posts saying "wow malenia was really hard" with "huh?? i beat her second try with mimic lmao"
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>DS1 DLC was great
>Old Hunters was some of the best video game content I ever played
>Every DS2 DLC was amazing (Sunken King was the weakest FROM DLC I played though)
>Then THIS comes out
Maybe I just had high expectations because FROM DLC tends to be their best stuff... Like, I didn't play anything from DS3.
So maybe it's a trend
IDK.

But I've never been more fucking disappointed with a FROM DLC than this. It's just fucked... Despite having a few really good fights, the main questline just feels like shit.
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>>484511397
alright, yeah i thought i could get volcano manor out of the way before hitting the capital

man that sucks, i really wanted the greatsword from rykard tho
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>>484511450
>LOOOL BRO I BEAT THIS SUPER HARD GAME IT'S CALLED ELDEN RING LOL
>It seems like you just cheesed it and the PvE didn't even move
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT YOU'RE INSULTING MY ACCOMPLISHMENT
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LEGENDARY LOOT! I sure hope it's not another Glovewort or something haha ;^))
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>>484511260
nta yeah im sure the people freaking out about this on twitter are well adjusted people
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>>484510218
I just finished rushing a second character for the DLC, I've only done a couple side dungeons for some deathroot and cookbooks and ignored every early-midgame boss that drops less than 50k runes. I haven't killed Maliketh or Malenia or Mohg and I'm at RL145, my character file is only 15 hours.
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>>484511712
ge golly i wonder what the loot on top of a tomb ship could be
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>>484510771
No, that's how you WANT to interpret it because you're incapable of self-reflection.
I'll feed you a food analogy since that will be easier for a child's mind to digest:
A renowned, acclaimed chef just cooked you foie gras, and since he knows there are children at the table he also made up a simple plate of fries as a side. You brushed the foie gras aside, at the fries and now you're telling the adults at the table that dinner was "mid" and you think the chef is overhyped.
Nobody is going to sit down and walk you through why your opinion is silly and nobody is taking it seriously. We'll just tell you "you didn't eat the foie gras."

Now imagine this fry-loving child is instead a grown ass man with a platform and followers, and uses his platform to proudly declare his stupid opinion and influence his followers, many of whom have not tried the food themselves and would base their decisions on what they see spoken about it, and cry and put and stamp his feet when asked "did you even eat the foie gras?"

It's not wrong to enjoy the side of fries, or be the kind of person who just doesn't like foie gras and only showed up to the meal because there were other options--it's wrong to pretend that you're a fucking food critic when all you eat are fries. So many (mostly young) people come into this game thinking fries are the main dish because their only source of information are the manchildren with a platform that turned up their nose at a real meal but still desperately want internet clout.
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>>484511635
Ashes of Ariandel was dogshit and the Ringed City was decent, the trend that "From releases their best stuff as DLC" died with Bloodborne
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>>484511642
you can but you'll miss takers cameo iirc. which you don't want to miss really in the grand scheme of things.
use a flame art flam until you can use the actual str faith sword with heal fire and passive vamperic on kill healing
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>>484502907
>>484502974
>>484503141
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>food analogy
Stopped reading.
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>>484511631
They're right. Imagine any other game where a major mechanic like that is introduced to you right at the beginning of the game and a whole faction of the community loudly declares they won't use it for whatever reason. Don't complain about difficulty if you're purposefully gimping yourself.
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>>484511782
Chief made better foods with his old dishes.
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Got a question about NG+
Is it significantly harder than the base game (if it is harder to begin with)?
I finished the game at lvl 140-ish and was wondering if I was supposed to farm and level up again to finish it a second or third time on the same save?
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>Got Malenia on 3rd try after DLC (only killed her once before)
I think I've been hardened
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Here is my definitive list of "You didn't beat the game" mechanics:

>Greatshield
>Barricade AoW
>Coop
>Spirits
>That one tear that gives you infinite FP for a bit

That's it imo
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>>484511474
Fair enough it does. Regardless, that alone still doesn't override the few facts we DO actually know. And let's not pretend like the English text hasn't made significant fuck ups before when Ranni's ending sounds way different in English than in the original Japanese text.
I'd rather focus on the things we know rather than what terms the English uses.
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>>484511073
It's somehow even more nonsense than that because Miquella was at Caelid making the timeframe from when he got Mohgnapped incomprehensible
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>>484511635
>main questline
Its the same its always been, you murderhobo you way from zone to zone while NPCs clue you in on what's happened before they inevitably bite it.
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>>484510105
What is the intended interplay though? When you have to restrict the vast majority of playstyles in the game I think that maybe things have gone too far.
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>>484511782
Wow what a retarded analogy. No big surprise that something so delusional came from the mind of someone so obsessed with other people playing a game the "wrong" way.
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>>484511712
You WILL get excited for the sneedworts. You WILL level up the new spirit ashes.
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>golden arcs
>giant golden arc
is one preferable over the other or is it situational?
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am I supposed to do something here?
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What did he mean by this?
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>>484512050
You forgot
>Bleed
>Frost
>Rot
>Nu-Powerstancing
>Using any L2 sticks
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>>484511939
it's an optional easy mode for newbies
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>>484511961
first ng+ is very easy, its like a victory lap

i think the difficulty only goes up after like ng+4
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I’m going to FUCK FLORISSAX
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>>484511635
I thought the ds2 dlc was lame with the "this is the poison soldier uh okay different dlc this is the Ash soldier uhhh Ice Man next???" crap but that combined package puts this garbage to absolute shame
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>>484512228
where is that
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>>484512050
you forgot bleed and rot/poison
also Endure
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>>484502893
Losing what? Elden ring is about massive levels and using everything you want, mandatory sl brackets are for dasbabby subhumans
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>>484510105
This is a community that worships a guy for LITERALLY playing the game for them
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>>484512283
rabbi's rise
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>>484511961
every ng+ scales hp and damage a little bit, the first adds quite a bit of flat defenses. starting at ng+3 enemies get more poise up to 40% at ng+7 which is where scaling stops
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>>484512251
Ok thanks
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>>484512283
Drop down from the back of Marika's village to get at the top of the wizard's tower.
>>484512228
If you have Ymir's simp's ashes you can upgrade them if you interact with her.
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>>484512050
infinite fp tear got another nerf
and why do you hate blocking
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>>484511782
i think you have some points but at the same time i dont think its good to be so invested in this when it really doesnt matter
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>>484512237
if you're not pressing L2 you're not even playing elden ring and are pretending it's ds3
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>>484512105
When did Miquella go to Caelid? I must have missed something. I guess that explains why his needle was there at least.
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>>484512236
People who fuck deathbed maidens are desperate for companionship of any kind.
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>>484512237
You forgot
>jumping attacks
>poise damage physick
>charged heavy attacks
>fighting on torrent
>playing on mouse and keyboard
>using an Xbox controller
>not using the donkey kong bongo controllers
>having both eyes open
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are there super stronk weapon arts for greatsword other than giant hunt and the guts somersault one?
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>>484512567
You can mix it up, like seriously, imagine playing like the average moonveiler through the entire game, literally fucking braindead
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>>484512498
it's ok to admit you were wrong this is an anonymous board
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>>484512581
No, the needle was there because of Malenia
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>>484511823
If you mean after then yeah. I generally didn't like DS3.
TOH and Bloodborne in general was FROM at their best in terms of the Souls formula
>>484512135
I guess.. The setting and twists kinda matter to me.
Like, I really don't like Radahn being the final boss. I felt he got a pretty good final battle with the Festival. I also hated him gameplay and presentation but that's a seperate matter.
>>484512282
Ivory and Iron King DLC was cool as hell, but I'm a "dude in armor" design enjoyer.
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>>484512473
Blocking the last hit of a combo for guard counters is fine, guarding the entire combo is too easy.
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I'm starting to be able to dodge the bullshit anime attacks.
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>every NPC except for Florissax if you drug her dies
I mean come the fuck on base ER at least had Ranni, Rya, and Nepheli/Kenneth who are alive at the end.
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>>484512581
he was on the battlefield of aeonia and "healed" freyja there, i say "healed" because she still has the scar but doesn't seem to mind it anymore
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>>484512184
A good rule of thumb is that if you see every attack a boss does and successfully defend against them all at least once by reacting to the telegraph and responding accordingly before beating a boss you probably experienced everything it has to offer.
I think this is a good rule of thumb because it allows for virtually any playstyle as long as you're not just stunlocking/dunking the boss instantly, but still makes it clear why, for example, parrying a boss to death or hiding behind a fingerprint shield will frequently rob you of the experience while using some actual tools to help make the fight easier doesn't necessarily ruin it.
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>>484512661
but this was my first reply to the chain why am i wrong

but sure im wrong
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>>484512050
Coop is fun. I like having fun.
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>>484512725
???????????
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>>484512732
holy buttsex time
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>>484512236
You beat up Godrick and Nephali, Fia, and D seem to like you. Duh.
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>>484512653
you mix it up by equipping a different skill or using a different unique weapon
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>>484512636
Flame Spear/Skewer on the Fire Knight GS.
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>>484512812
>*stunlocks the boss permanently to the point it barely gets to move*
>YOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIREEE FRFR
>goo goo gaa gaa
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Remember when shit like this was widely mocked? Now you're lucky if they bother to change the colour
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>>484512282
DS2 DLC dungeons are amazing, would've been better with more creative enemy rosters but we haven't seen anything on that level since.
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just making sure, but does thoillier just moan pitifully and not die after trina tells you to kill miquella and you beat his invasion?
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>>484512909
>*stunlocks the boss permanently to the point it barely gets to move*
>YOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIREEE FRFR
>goo goo gaa gaa
you just described the gameplay of every strength build, coop or solo
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>>484512909
>immediately triggered into babbling like a child
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>>484512940
Yes, you mindbroke him from the NTR and now he become your obedient attack dog/cameraman.
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>>484512740
MAY CHAOS
TAKE
THE WORLD
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If Miquellas is journeying through the Land of Shadows alongside the Tarnished, the one who was riding Torrent on that promotional image was Marika and not Miquella?
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>>484511174
screenshot?
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>>484513103
i dont know
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>no shield
>no bloodhound step
>no light roll
>no spirit ash or summon
>no ranged attacks
>no status
https://youtu.be/uuViqwZEoTk?si=VLtZIFceiLld6nRL
Behold, foie gras
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Miquella and Malenia sitting in the haligtree KISSING.
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>>484513140
go look up the radahn phase 2 cutscene
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>>484513061
just double checking after i killed myself another two times and nothing changed, thanks
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I've decided. I'm going to save my love Melina from her ridiculous path of self-destruction.

I will use the Frenzied Flame to set fire to the Erdtree. I will free myself from its control using Miquella's Needle. It doesn't matter if she hates me for doing so.

That's love. Reciprocation is optional.
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>>484512384
>>484512471
damn wtf didn't even know this cliffside existed
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>>484510368
Not just the color itself but literally everything about that particular lighting state, something about the way the shadows are graded and it's like the light isn't even being projected correctly. I thought maybe I just had calibrated my monitor or the ingame brightness incorrectly but it looks the same in other people's footage too.
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Concealing Veil is sooo fucking good for invading with all these new weapons
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>>484513159
i should use endure more in pve
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what the fuck is up with senessax
why is the camera fucking me up more than the boss
incredibly tilting fight
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>>484512498
I'm not really invested it in. I think it's funny when I see balding manchildren and their underaged worshippers in the wider ecosystem cope furiously about being afraid to really engage with a hobby they invest so much time and money into. But it's mind blowing to see the same shit parroted here where folks ought to actually know better. It screams of insecurity, which is why the picky eater analogy works so well, I think.
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>>484512740
>he doesn't hang out with the Hornsent Grandam
>he doesn't dance and cavort
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>>484513218
Good goy
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>>484512909
if you have never enjoyed a good excitedly jumping around alongside your fellow tarnished after beating up a mean enemy you have no heart at all
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>>484511073
>Radahn has to become my lord in the shadow realm because he's the only demigod strong enough to resist the stars
>Once you kill him, go kill Mohg too
>Then I'll become a god and fix your rot
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>>484512636
Troll's roar? Maybe braggart's roar charge R2. How much poise damage does the buttslam do?
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is there anything else in the massive finger arena?
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anyone else just blank out when fighting bosses and forget all their buffs, flask of physicks, and weapon arts?
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Anyone already made a timeline of events with Shadow of the Erdtree stuff? Was Messmer and Melina born before Marika made the Erdtree? because, knowing that Radagon is his father? during Carian alliance Godfrey was still her consort
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>>484513561
no

>>484513572
no
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The game is so insanely active during chink hours on max level bracket wtf
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>>484513159
>endures through an attack
>swings
>boss is already in frame 0 iframes from lightspeed attack startup
THIS FOOD IS RAW
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>>484513561
one of them has a hidden cave with a fingercreeper spirit ash

also one has a gesture in it
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>>484513561
yes

atmosphere, you can look at stuff in different angles, leave messages, meditation practice
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Radahn was one of the few people that could resist Miquella and see him for what he was due to his powers allowing him to control the stars and cycles/fate.
That's why Miquella became so obsessed with him and his refusal to the point of making plans that involved killing his own siblings and casting off any love he had into Trina.
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>>484513443
hornsent grandam is sleeping forever wdym
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>>484513218
Obviously you expect sex and cummies for it though.
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>>484513654
>Hunter DongCheng70 summoned
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>>484512740
There's more people alive in the base game than that. Tanith and Patches stay alive if you don't kill them for their outfits. Jar-Bairn goes on a quest or something. Gostoc's hanging out with the Stormveil people. Jerren is presumably alive if you sided with him to kill Sellen.
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>>484513746
Radahn was a lazy addition that takes away from the story they were trying to write for Miquella through the base game and most of the DLC
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this game very good
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>>484513887
tanith is meant to be killed for the crucible knight fight imo. rya can survive at least.
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>>484513850
>mfw when i pull out Swift Slash
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>>484513618
He was "LIKE an older brother" to Radahn, so we know he was older than him AND Radagon wasn't his father so he was probably Godfrey's son.
Or maybe Marika shoved a snek up her cunt and he was the result because it would be noted if he was of the Golden Lineage™.
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>>484513949
sure is
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>>484503361
Kute kot
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>>484513561
A remembrance dupe altar.
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>>484513979
He has red hair
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>>484506601
>redtroon has to be carried by a npc
real dsg hours
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>>484513464
>>484513760
You have no true love in your hearts. A real man does whatever it takes to make sure the ones they cherish are safe and sound. That is the reward in itself, no more no less.
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https://youtu.be/R3fsO3XABCU?si=fzQWLAymdWn2tGlw
Do Melinafags really? Kek
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>>484513659
>people really tried to say everyone who had problems with the iframes is a shitter
Lmao
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sorry bad picture
computer cant capture greaatness of game
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Gravity Missile is so versatile and mechanically fun no fucking way they designed it like this, it's antithetical to the dogshit ass backwards spell design of this series. They are probably going to remove the explosion when you hit the walls or ground.
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Someone suggested a bow build so I transferred over the ansbach bow, can't use it yet since I'm level 15 at the moment, but how is this for a dex build? I've never done a dex build, usually I go strength because it's braindead and I can settle for 55-66 strength.
I might lower my strength if I end up not wanting to use something like the Zweihander 1 handed.
The 15 faith is for Fire Grant me Strength, should I bother with this or move these into something else?

Any tips would be really appreciated, never done dex before.
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>>484503479
KOT
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>>484514184
heal first so your bars are off the screen bwo
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>>484513572
I rarely buff before bosses
I don't like glowing like a christmas tree
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How are there still people with 1300 HP at RL150?
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>>484513618
They were born during the Age of the Erdtree. Messmer's army includes Erdtree nobles and Melina straight up says she was born at the foot of the Erdtree.
We don't know the father for sure. Could be Godfrey still, they have M names like the Omen twins. Could have just popped them out by herself like Malenia pops out buds. We know Rennala had to have been mentally together to gift Rellana with her helmet before she went off with Messmer so Radagon had to have been with her.
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>>484514189
>PvE support
It doesn't count
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i cna only see radahn's feet. what the fuck is this lmao
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>>484514201
>10 mnd for a skill spam build
i know it only costs 12fp but you arent gonna have a good time chugging that often
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>>484501601
>Tranny was arguing that Freyja's dialogue proves that Radahn wasn't mind controlled and was behind all the war between Malenia and him
>People translated Freyja's Japanese text and it said Miquella promised TO Radahn not WITH Radahn, as in it's a one sided promise
>The silence of the trannies
Lul
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>>484513572
I only consume the crab
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>>484514347
Fuck. I've completely forgotten about my mind.
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>>484514189
based webm what a great spell
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>>484513979
>Messmer is a redhaid
>Melina, most likely his sister, has auburn hair
>Both parents were blonde
You hate to see it.
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>>484514354
>>People translated Freyja's Japanese text and it said Miquella promised TO Radahn not WITH Radahn, as in it's a one sided promise
I fucking knew it, he literally stopped the stars so he wouldn't be gay
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>>484514308
did you rike it?
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>>484513572
I made a STR FTH build for the specific purpose of buffing the shit out of myself.
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>>484513752
Put the lion head on and get some soup.
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WHY ARE THE NEW SORCERIES SO FUCKING LAAAAAME OH MY GOOOD
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>>484514523
radahn tried his best
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>>484514612
You got the teleport though
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Sellen needs to learn a sorcery to give everybody everywhere footjobs at the same time
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>>484514612
glintstone nails are good on NG, grav missile and microcosm are good for aoeing in different scenarios, i missed triple glintblade so no idea if it's any good
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>>484514527
cant even tell his moves all that much without fucking up my camera somehow lol
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>>484513945
I hate that we don't see miquella with wings, it would be so cute
also fits the cleanrot knights and malenia having wings
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>>484513572
I physick before crossing the fog.
For the first dozen attempts or so I play really greedy and try all sorts of stuff, then once I feel like I've got an action on mind to respond to each boss opening I just zone out and enjoy the fight.
I think the only boss I didn't do this with was Radah. He wasn't worth the time.

You come to some really satisfying solutions this way. Against Putrescent Knight I was able to stunlock him 100 to 0 on my successful run after about an hour of learning him inside and out. Against Dancing Lion I got the fight scripted so perfectly that I was counting the hits to each stagger and using it to interrupt attacks I struggled with.
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>>484502543
The arrows are acquired the same way hostcels like you that didn't beat the game got their stuff
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now I see how BS gaius is
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>>484514612
What, you dont like your glintblade trio?

Some are pretty good though. Both gravity spells are good, microcosm is great, vortex of putrescence is great for aoe mob killing, and impenetrable thorns is the second most broken thing in the game atm behind lighting perfume
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>>484514756
which is the #1 complaint for this boss, enjoy being flashbanged while you're trying to learn the boss
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>>484513746
>Radahn was one of the few people that could resist Miquella
You just made this shit up
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>what a cool zone, I hope it's full of cool things
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>>484514575
I did that. But her questline ends with her saying she's sleepy and giving mega soup.
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WHERES MY FUCKING PATCH MIYAHACKY
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>Fire
>Giant's flame
>Flame of frenzy
>Ghostflame
>Bloodflame

vs

>Cold

Can coldcucks be any more pathetic?
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>The knight, once the personal guard of Godwyn, was also the protector of the Prince of Death's cadaver surrogate.
So, they tried the bodyswap with Godwyn.
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>>484512940
the rest of his quest is after the burning the sealed tree and is just talking with him and summoning him for leda gank and optionally for radahn
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>>484515003
Bro you're gonna love fighting that ghostflame dragon from the starting area again.
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>It's a dragon again, but this time he's weak to holy
>And he has fire breath disfunction
>And he explodes like Death Rite Birds
>And his slams also have ghostflame
>And he summons a shit ton of skeletons, for some reason
Is it just a mix of Death Rite Bird + Dragon + Tibia Mariner? Are they out of ideas?
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>>484515003
it is full of absolutely stunning views
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>>484514903
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
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>>484502889
>Just look at the early DLC threads where people unironically tried to discourage people from upgrading the Scadu fragments
Actual history revisionism
No one said that, it was quite the contrary
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>>484515212
Bro what if, hey what if titanite shards and flowers? Hell yeah
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>>484515259
i think they're cool
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>>484513618
The timeline is really hard to piece together
>shadow runes imply the land was sealed long before the crusade, and they knew it was a one-way trip
>molted snakeskin and O, Mother gesture in Bonny Village implies Messmer was born in the land of shadow
>explicit text states Marika sent Messmer TO the land of Shadow to lead the crusade, meaning he lived outside of it in the Lands Between until then
>the total lack of traces of Hornsent culture or connections to shadowlands stuff in general in the base game implies that the sealing happened very early in the Golden Order
>but Messmer's red hair implies he's related either to Radagon, the Fire Giants, or both
>but Godfrey is the first elden lord and Radagon only married Marika (relatively) recently--within Rennala's lifetime



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