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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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>Previous
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Miquella never did anything wrong.
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>WOWIE THIS IS GAME IS SO FUN HAHA IT LETS ME ROLEPLAY AS A MARVEL HERO!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO BEAT THIS NEXT BOSS
>NOW LET ME JUST SUMMON SOME BULLS TO CARRY ME THROUGH THE LEVEL....
>OH! HEY THERE RACIST_INCEL_ARYAN1488!! CAN YOU CARRY ME THROUGH THE BOSS?
>W-WAIT SOMETHINGS OFF... ARE YOU A HECKIN NAZI???
>N-NEVER MIND. M-MUST'VE JUST BEEN MY IMAGINATION
>ANYWAYS, LET ME SUMMON ANOTHER SISSY FAGGOT TO CARRY ME THROUGH THE LEVEL, I HOPE THIS ONE IS A FELLOW BERNIE SUPPORT-ACKK
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Are D and his bro a split person like Marika/Radagon, Miquella/Trina, Malenia/sisters, and winged serpent/base serpent?
All the others seem to embody different aspects from each other hence the split, but with D and his bro they seem to be on the exact same page.
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Mohg is redeemed
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Why can't I use a thrusting shield in one hand and a greatshield in the other and be able to use both
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>>486613219
>>486613650
And what do you think that means? I want to hear your (wrong) interpretation of this information.
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Why the fuck was the jedi sword a fucking katana?
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It never crossed my mind that Messmer is left-handed until someone pointed it out. I don't think it makes much of a difference anyway.
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Radahn is our Bejita.
He'll just do this before every fight then job instantly and also possibly get raped.
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>>486614162
Morgott is still the cooler brother?
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>>486614162
He is still a murder hobo who surrounds himself with poop flies regardless of if he is an incestious gay pedophile on top.
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>>486614189
Because Dark Souls II did it that is the worst game ever, according to /v/.
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>>486614237
because jedis are samurais
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Sorry bud, looks like I've simply outplayed you on this 5 dimensional battlefield we call a game
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Reminder that Miquella is a rapist (both bodily and mental)
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If your tarnished is not wearing white mask bullgoat you lower your tone in my presence
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>>486614556
canon (and hot)
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>>486614126
That's the implication, given the line about how the Golden Order is the only system that doesn't consider them cursed.
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>>486614556
Reminder that Miquella and Radahn love each other and are happily married.
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>>486614556
>no you see, the sissy just WANTED a train of faceless fat men to run a train on him
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>>486614764
explain to a non american?
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I have never had fun in elden ring doing int runs unless it's explicitly doing sword related spells, because all the flavors of glint stone pebble are redundant and retarded.
Fuck you ranni
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reminder that miquella fucks radahn in the pusy
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>>486614224
im not playing that game so no thank you fuck off. pretty obvious who you are troll.
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>>486614764
This but rge opposite
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>>486614126
radagon and marika seem like two souls in one body, while the Ds are one soul split into two bodies
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names Volke. I solve... problems...
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>>486613681
Do you guys think they ever...you know?
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>>486614941
you also have conservatives and liberals in your country
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>>486614664
My tarnished wears drake set, banished set, fire knight set, Black Knight set, bear set, Rock Heart, Lamenter Mask
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>ok I'll do a different ending this time
>Some 60 hours later
>".... Oops"
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>>486615094
Art of miquella /ss/ malenia whilst she rims st trina, stat!
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>Friend recently started the DLC the other day
>Ask him how it's going
>Says it's "not as hard as people say" and he's "really proud of his build"
>Figure he must be pretty decent then and ask to see it
>full solitude armor plus white mask with RoB+sword of night
>Also spams Rot Breath on bosses while mimic tear tanks
>He's RL329 and admits to farming runes as soon as he loses against any boss one time
>Follows all this up by saying it "might not be the best meta build but it works for him"
I want to die. I actually want to die. I've known this guy for almost 30 fucking years and he was secretly a shitter all along.
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Godfrey FORCES Marika to turn into Radagon during sex so he can show who’s the real STRONGEST elden lord by FUCKING him.
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>>486567603
No.
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>>486615354
I'm sorry anon but you have to put him down
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>>486615354
He is right. It isn't as hard as people say because you can do things like this and his build is good and it still isn't the most meta build out there because thorns and antspur cheese still exist
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>>486615225
Evangelioning the world into a blaze of piss fire is based but it's also a cringe pilled nihilist cuck ending
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>>486615380
This is how melina and messmer were conceived
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haven't played the dlc yet but my take is that miquella has done everything he could to try and find a cure for his sister and he was working himself into a corner trying to find some kind of solution. he thought that the only way he could do his was to use his powers as a means to an end and that means abandoning all that he was. his flesh, his very being. his kindness. to manipulate those around him and to find a loophole with the greater will and try to circumvent it but in so doing he had lost his compassion and the original intent of his journey and the burden that he carried
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>>486615380
damn look at that arched back
that's professional slut levels of arch
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>>486615354
Grim.
How do you plan to break the news to him?
Or are you going to shoulder the burden.
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>>486615634
Straight and factual.
Those births did a massive toll on radagon which is why he has a destroyed and exposed side. They had to c-section them out due to the radagon penis not being Marika pussy
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>>486615729
That's just him seeing a real man (the tarnished (me)) and Marika's instincts kicking in.
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If I see this upon being summoned for a boss I let them enter the fog gate then finger sever.
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>>486615780
I'm going to never speak with him about Elden Ring or Souls in general again. I can't. If I speak up he will get unbelievably pissed, just the kind of guy he is, can't take criticism.
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>>486615837
More like Radagon keeps Marika’s pussy and that’s how Godfrey impregnated him.
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is the only way to kill those bloodborn madness guys is to use the death knife on them? I thought I saw pics of people just killing them with great hammers and such
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>>486615997
why?
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>>486616204
you can parry them
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>>486616060
That seems like an overreaction.
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>Easily the coolest new weapon they've added
>Can't use any cool/fun ashes and is just a PvP metatranny running R1 stick
Why do they hate me?
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>>486616209
Because I'm a loser and I got bullied at school,so I need to annoy people.
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>>486616209
i'm insecure about my video game skills
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>>486616151
Do you think them runes inside him feel good to thrust through?
(Elden)Ringed for his pleasure.....
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>>486615354
he's a shitter but it's only because he went over 165
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>>486616209
NTA but are you new here? That mask is a shitter magnet. 99.9% chance if someone is using it they are going to fall into one of two groups:
>Literal NPC who learned about it from a YouTube video and went to get it because some eceleb told him it was "the bestest most OP headgear ever"
>Tryhard extra sweaty metafag
There's no in-between.
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>>486615354
Had a similar thing happen, friend who introduced me to soulsborneringkiro raged so hard at the dlc that he broke a controller, started summoning, mimic tear, overlevel and use RoB.
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>calls you bitchless
>Makes you seethe
>Haunts 80% of your PvP experience so you can keep seething
Most basedest NPC
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>>486616378
what retard made this? I want to laugh at them
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>>486616338
Yes and the Elden Beast feels the thrusting too.
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>summoned for Gaius
>use Raptor of the Mists to dodge charges/attacks
>host sends friend request after
>accept, curious
>he starts accusing me of hacking
Fuckin' seriously man
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>>486616490
Do not fuck the space lizard
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>>486616378
>YOU CANNOT PLAY FUN HYBRID BUILDS YOU HAVE TO STAY AT MY SWEATY DISCORD META LEVEL WHERE MY BUILD IS FINISHED BUT YOURS ISN'T
Go back.
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>>486616447
okay and? where's the logic? you're being summoned, it should already be apparent to you that you are there to make the fight easier for the host
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Thoughts? Prayers?
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Did they delete the +10% attack from the raptors black feather? I equipped it but I can see the line where it's mentionned nowhere in my game
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>>486616490
Imagine elden beast turning radagon into a flesh light and forcing it on godfrey to bring more children into the world to fulfill the greater wills rule
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keep it tactical
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>>486616639
Why would I want to help a host who's a shitter NPC that got his build from YouTube? He deserves to get filtered. I agree with the OP, I sever out if I see this shit. I stick around to help if the host is clearly using something they made themselves.
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>>486616639
I agree, you’re already a shitter if you summon so I don’t really see why it matters what the host is using if you’re going to carry them anyway.
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>>486616693
No.
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>>486616808
>Why would I want to help a host who's a shitter NPC
because you are being summoned, the host is a shitter by default
are you a little slow?
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>>486616209
This mask is the official headpiece of the turboshitter.
it represents someone who hates the game and wants to cheese their way through it with the youtube video HOT NEW OP BUILD YOU WONT BELIEVE IT GONE WILD GONE SEXUAL told them was the best in the game and they still need to summon.
You know the moment the boss switches aggro for a second they will eat massive amounts of shit because they never bothered to learn how to actually play the game.
Also it's fucking ugly.
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increase power of "storms?" or ice stomp+, and you dont have the right 2.0
not what I was expecting from that dungeon but I enjoyed the scenery
grandmas spell aint too bad either, something for my death build, and perhaps beast caster can be a hornsent instead of an ancestral follower type but ill dig into the lore more first (without you troll)
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>>486616264
>couldbe been the fist made for blocking
>no blocking animation with both blades
You have been robbed more than you realize
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Is there any way to avoid Radahn's huge second phase AOE other than running or using Raptor of the Mists? Does Miriam's Vanishing work?

How about Midra's second phase AOE with the lingering hitbox?
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>>486616752
Elden beast forces Radagon to get fucked by Godfrey to replace and have more Demigods kids facts and true.
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>>486616882
There's a difference between someone who's struggling with the game but attempting to genuinely play it and someone who literally copy-pasted their build from YouTube, anon. The former is deserving of pity, but the latter is deserving of a curb stomping.
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>>486616639
There's no logic, that loser just got bullied at school today and is looking for the most pathetic excuse to have the moral upper ground while acting like a piece of shit.
>bweh, he broke MY rules so I'm entitled to be a bitch and cry about it like the fatherless I am
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>>486614830
They're dead.
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>>486616919
>grandmas spell aint too bad either,
Mate, have you actually tried it?
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>>486616930
You can run away from Radahn's attack. Same as Midra's explosion.
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Hold not onto thou Faith, for the Golden Order is fickle, and malleable, as it's namesake.
Trust not in the Moon, for the celestial bodies are fluctuating, pulling back against a gesticulating world.
Roar not with the drakes of olde, for they are a dangerous, covetous sort, whose power cannot be fully imbibed.

Nay, cling tightly to the Flame. For the Flame rages against the Erd, and can ever hold it in fear, lest one day comes where the tree must burn and the world must be plunged into an Age of Dark.
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>>486616779
total tauntnigger death
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>>486617019
you care way too much what other people think about you
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>>486617048
We get it anon you wear the white mask and are VERY sensitive about being called an NPC for it. You don't need to meltdown this hard.
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>>486616808
This guy gets it.
I'll help a host who is clearly actually trying and putting some effort into winning and hasn't just opted out and found some "how do cheese elden ring ez" youtube video and has zero independent thought process.
My help is not unconditional.
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>>486617085
yes it casts a skull that casts lil rancors, and I assume I can stack that with other spells at the same time
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I love that the PvP is as fucked as it is.
This is EXACTLY what it's meant to be like.
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>>486616693
>claw talisman
>ate and killed turtle fren
You deserved it
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>>486616619
It's really weird how a lot of it is just a discord tranny group spamming here and other sites for their meta most ignore
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>>486617019
I honestly agree
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>>486617048
You struck a nerve, the kid is very, very angry.
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I've finally figured out open world invasions:

>immediately concealing veil
>find the host/gank, look at them from afar, gauge the situation
>if it's a 3v1 at the bonfire, just sever and block (or hide in the level, go afk, and block, if you hate them so much, both work)
>if it's a 2v1, wait for a 2nd invader to show up. if they refuse to have a 2v2 then leave and block
>if it's a 1v1, wait for them to summon another co-oper and then refer to the 2v1 instructions. i'm not here for shitty unfair duels

Basically just force 2v2's and don't engage until they do. I can actually do near/far now and it's so much less stressful, and I win way more often. It's a lot of fun, and honestly most hosts will abide by this, they'll do 2v2's. If you're fine with 1v1's but they have a rune arc and twice the flasks then that's on you, I'm not here for that shit. This only applies for the open world btw. I love legacy dungeons, I really just want to fight a gank squad alongside cool powerful mobs as they try to progress to the boss. That's the true invasion experience I crave. I can't always get that though so this is a good 2nd option that I'm okay with. Just stop running into the meat grinder, and don't even waste your time with ranged combat if it's just 2-3 guys standing in an open field.
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>>486617182
Where in this post did I imply I care what other people think of me? My man this is the DEFINITION of projection.
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>>486617048
You're projecting the fact that you get bullied a little too hard here anon.
Nobody is crying when they're stating that they finger sever on shitters. You're crying because we're stating we finger sever on shitters.
Probably because you're one of them and you're feeling a little attacked right now.
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>>486617242
>claw talisman
His chestpiece boosts jump attacks, same icon
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>>486617135
you know the tauntnigger is bad when even the blues kill themselves to avoid helping
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There's literally no reason to defend the white mask this hard unless you wear it yourself. Talk about embarrassing.
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>>486617072
The love each other and are happily married in the afterlife
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>>486617329
the entire post, if you don't get it that's too bad
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>>486617019
This.
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>>486615675
No Miquella was just really gay and obsessed with Radahn. None of that other shit matters and is irrelevant in his quest for Radahn's dick.
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>>486617301
Not that hard, the cold truth is enough to piss that kiddo off.
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>>486617224
I love that you're as fucked as you are
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>>486617505
There's no "love". It's entirely just Miyazaki's sissification fetish
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>>486616619
I'd say the absolute highest you should ever level without going max level is 175 because it is mutually exclusive to 125.
but because the player base likes 150, 165 is required to invade 150
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>>486617312
>if they refuse to have a 2v2
If they're just two people progressing through an area and not taunter's tongueing, you won't get a second invader, no?
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>>486617187
>I'll help a host who is clearly actually trying and putting some effort into winning
Having a garbage character that can hardly be called “a build” isn’t clearly trying nor putting in effort.
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Chase the Bro is so good at this game he constantly uploads videos and not one of them has a single loss what an absolute legend
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>>486617019
Could not have said it better myself anon. Everyone claiming otherwise clearly uses the mask and just cares way too much about what other people think.
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>>486616461
Based Varre making incels seethe years later
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>>486617329
>uhm only real gamers like ME come up with our own builds and spend 500 hours in game doing so
>only fucking gay losers just use something they saw and play the game casually
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>>486617224
based.
"waaa I want only dual lances poise blobs to be good waaaa"
they deserve it.
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>>486617587
Based
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>>486617647
and he's so polite too, unlike that chud jeenine
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>>486617647
And he somehow always seems to have limitless rare consumables, he must be farming like a machine in his off time
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>>486617589
>because the player base likes 150
The playerbase liked 150 in the basegame because that is the level most people finished it around. The new "150" is 200, as that's the level most people finish base game + DLC, anon.
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>>486617647
This but unironically.
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>>486617647
I love how nice he is to co-op'ers even though they're so mean to him, especially the way he says hi to them
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>>486616693
>jump attack so ingrained into muscle memory that he has to do it even though a single r1 would have done the job
absolutely deserved
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>>486617682
We get it you wear the white mask and are very upset that people are making fun of you so you're trying to project those feelings onto others to save face.
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If I summon the crazy guy for the BYYLLEE fight, does it increase his HP like any other summon? am I gonna die like a pig?
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150 is for the arena, not invasions, why don't people get this? normal players (who you are invading) don't just stop leveling
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Chase is cringe because he plays Type B slop
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anyone else's dumb retard faggot monkey brain will see an attack coming, but refuses to hit the dodge button?
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I lit the summoning pool for Rykard before I realized what a slog that fight is to be summoned to. Is there anyway to unfuck this?
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>>486617812
no point in playing with people who finished the game, you have to match up in the process of playing the game so under 200 is still good.
Only a retard keeps leveling with the runes instead of upgrading the weapon drops he just got.
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>Called as a blue
>Host nowhere in sight
>Already feeling spicy, thinking I might gather a deathball of Caelid Dogs and shit and run the host over with it
>Redman finds me and starts chasing me
>I decide to just lead HIM to the host
>Host and his PW phantom are disguised as barrels in the burnt church outside Caelid
>Dumbshit redman finally realizes what I was doing once I force him to attack a hidden player
>Start getting in his phantom's face and disrupting as generally being rude
>Host removes me with severer while his phantom damnation spams the redman
Ah well. I tried.
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hey friends
just arrived at the northern castle at the Mountaintops, cleared all regions apart from Lake of Rot and Mt. Gelmir.
level 100, 70 hours in.
so I reckon I have like 25% of the game left. just wanted to visit the general for the first time and share some observations

so far its a 9/10, and while I think there is some cool stuff coming, the game also started to drag itself a bit and I feel like it'll even itself out

>the game is as difficult as you want it to be. up until now, with now being 75% of the game I reckon, I had few issues with any bosses. 10. tries tops. its a very accessible game.
>the game peaked right at Rennala fight. I was in shock during and until that fight, game felt actually magical. then things slowly started to click, perhaps a bit too much, but it never stopped being VERY enjoyable
>this is also represented in graphics, level design and "vibes". nothing beats Lake area. yet?
seriously though, travel to Raya Lucaria graces and then idk some in Caelid. the textures are way better in earlier areas.
>I played DS1 and BB. Questing in ER is horrible. it is literally the worst questing/NPC system I have experienced in my life.
>worldbuilding, storytelling etc is good though. its not as crypted as other games. I know whats going on and why I'm doing things, kind of.
>there are a lot of recurring mini-bosses, like Guardians and Deathroot fellers, which after some time turns into checklist simulators
>same is true for dungeon types. Hero's are now a nuisance, and others are OK ish. game should have had more forts and other similar open areas, they are always fun
>there was an issue with weapon economy. I got very few new weapons and armor sets I could use from Raya Lucaria to mid-Lyndell, but now I'm being drowned in armor sets and weapons.

open world is amazing, game is really fun, its paced really well, lore is interesting and cool as fuck, its the ultimate game and goes in my 3x3
but From NEEDS to drop this godawul questing system
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>>486617949
>save face on an anonymous imageboard
Also there's no "we", there's you being a gay boi.
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>>486617995
No, HP is set as you enter the boss fog anything you summon after that doesn't affect it.
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>>486617634
>Having a garbage character that can hardly be called “a build” isn’t clearly trying nor putting in effort.
You didn't actually formulate any kind of argument here.
Or are you trying to imply that there are no builds outside of something that uses the white mask?
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Which dragon communion spells are worth using? The chomp has good hyperarmor, the claw seems to be pretty good too, roar for the debuff and aoe, the upgraded breath ones are the only ones worth using I assume.
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when you look at the complete elden ring symbol together you see the destined death rune on top of them all, if you flip that run upside down it makes a complete circle that encompasses all the other great runes perfectly

think about it...
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I believe in Carian Supremacy
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>>486618081
don't go over 125 in the base game and don't go much over 150 in the dlc
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>>486618125
You cannot seriously only believe one anon has an issue with the white mask. It's been a joke since day one. Either you're a newfag or this is some next level denial.
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>>486618131
rot, no you don't need the upgrade versions of them
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>>486617592
>This only applies for the open world btw.

If they were actually just progressing through the area and fighting mobs there wouldn't be a problem, obviously. It's just that open world there are usually zero mobs around for miles and the host and friends are just gonna hang around the bonfire 9 times out of 10. That's when I'm saying to force 2v2's. I also honestly believe it's better to just not even shoot at them with a jar canon. Not only do you reveal your location so they can chase you down potentially, but you give them something to do. It's actually way more torturous it seems to deny them any interaction or stimulation. It's funny to see them jumping around or swinging their weapons in the air because they're bored. This also helps to encourage them to pop the TT for another invader.

I've been invading for hundreds of hours and I don't think I've seen even a single open world invasion where they actually went and fought an open world boss if they started at the bonfire. Not one. It's fucked up. I just refuse to fight 1v2's or 1v3's anymore, it's not worth it and not fun because they don't have FF and can abuse so many host advantages. I'm just very satisfied today, had a good day of invading this way. so I'm happy and wanted to share. RL150 btw.
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>>486617670
Why are all varre art drawn to make me gay
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Japanese PvP tubers are the only ones worth watching because they do not give a single fuck. They play true to the game, host and company included. No pretentious honor, no compromise, just a target to kill in any means necessary.
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>>486615675
He only mentions his sister in thanking her for bringing radahn to him. That's it.
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>>486618180
If elected, I'll give shoes to every Carian woman
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>white mask shitters having a melty after being called shitters
Some things never change.
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>>486618131
roar, claw maw, placidusax is better than all other breaths unless you want rot cheese
frost isn't bad
all the named ones can be cast while JUMPING do so
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>>486618081
Do Gelmir next, you’re already a bit over-leveled.
>Hasn’t done Haligtree, Farum Azula, or Leyndell Act II
You haven’t fought the bosses most people complain about yet.
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why can't we have a single game without gay themes?
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for me personally? its gotta be ACK schizo
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>>486618352
placidusex is not a dragon communion spell :)
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>>486618067
>Only a retard keeps leveling with the runes instead of upgrading the weapon drops he just got.
You just described 95% of the playerbase you stupid fuck. Regular people spend all their runes on leveling and just stick with their favorite weapons unless they stumble on something especially cool. Besides the DLC throws way more runes at you than you could ever spend on fucking weapon upgrades.
>>486618007
200 is fine for arenas. You're right though that normal players don't stop leveling.
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>>486618291
OVERTHROW THIS MAN IMMEDIATLY
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>i have an entirely arbitrary and subjective set of rules that you must follow
>if you don't follow my rules, i'm going to ruin your game out of spite, and then claim i'm in the right because i'm a true gamer
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how do i get down here?
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>>486618424
200 is way too close to 306 which is inferior to 713
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>>486618417
i meant to say that and I knew someone would point that out which is why I meant to say that
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>>486618352
Placidusax' Ruin is not a dragon communion incant. And no, it's not dragon cult either. It's "unique" in that it belongs to no school and thus no seal boosts it.
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>>486618395
yeap, I realised the latter part, but I'm feeling confident so far
I'm doing Gelmir's Hero's atm, will proceed to the main area, although I know what lies ahead as I did all the Manor quests before that. oh boy.

>>486618224
duly noted
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>>486618547
there's a hole in the ruins nearby where you meet dane
no, not that hole, another hole, hidden behind a building

it's fucking stupid
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>>486618130
My point is that being summoned by someone in full Radahn/Veteran/Solitude means that they probably have put in even less effort than Varre since they just took the armor with the highest numbers they could get without fatrolling without even doing any research at all.
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>>486618352
>>486618417
>>486618592
Is it still worth getting base faith to use it in a mainly arc dragon build?
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god damn someone get me the sliders for this character PRONTO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XlME0rYkY
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>>486617242
Normally an effect from gear is a normal square while temporary buffs have the square rotated 45 degrees. The new turtle talisman mistakenly uses the second one the same as if you munched on turtle neck, the one from the base game uses the correct icon.
OP ate crab as evidenced by the right-most icon which doesn't stack with turtle
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>>486618575
200s cannot match that high anon. Not even close.
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A white mask wearing BVLL goat armor fucked my wife (furled finger) in front of me and now I'm traumatized forever.
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>>486618547
Jump.
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>>486618407
Miquella is a woman.
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>>486618592
it doesnt need boosting its one of the the best spells in the game and >>486618582 (me)
>>486618698
yes faith tax is worth on dragon, in my opinion. equal them out even if you have the points spare you'll enjoy the damage. I personally split too far into dex arc and decided I don't like breaths that much but the dlc may change a few things.
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>>486618582
it's over

>>486618698
no, from greyoll's to placidusax is a whopping 8 level investment, not worth it in my opinion
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>>486616596
It should come as no surprise that people who need to summon to beat bosses are absolute shitters. The kind of shitter that picks something up and throws it in a pile without so much as looking at it, let alone trying it out.
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>>486618291
empires have crumbled for less
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>>486618647
oh thats hilarious. Thanks
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Why don't you all just go max level and get it over with?
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>>486618698
No not really. The only good part of it is the initial shockwave which knockbacks and does really solid damage, but then you're locked into the flame breath which has no HA and sprays around like a schizophrenic fire hose and misses almost everything you genuinely want to hit. If you use it, you're GOING to get hit during it since you can't cancel out of the breath. It also costs a TON of FP and 3 fucking memory slots. If you want an AOE shockwave, use Wrath of Gold. If you want a crazy dragon AOE incant for flavor, use Bayle's Tyranny.
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>click random Elden Ring video on YouTube, expecting nothing
>calls Reddit retarded
>calls FextraLife worthless
>criticizes the "when is it my turn to attack" mentality
>criticizes other bad arguments against Elden Ring's combat
>has another video dedicated to calling Joseph Anderson's critique of Elden Ring's combat retarded
This feels like taking a drink of cool water from an oasis after traveling through the desert for a week. I don't know how the discourse around Elden Ring got so thoroughly poisoned that it's so difficult to find people openly disagreeing with all these bad faith arguments that weren't as common with previous games (except DS3, where they were very common as well).

>>486617312
>Basically just force 2v2s and don't engage until they do
More or less. All invasions boil down to sticking to your win condition and accepting that the host and his summons aren't always going to give you your win condition foolishly. Some people will follow you out onto the frozen lake and fight Borealis, some people will retreat to the grace as soon as he spawns. Ranged combat only exists to mentally wear them down.
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>>486618291
he's trying to lose on purpose, bake him away toys
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>he hasn't plundered a whitemask from the filthy degenerate co-opers he invades and then had them grovel and try to offer a ransom for it's return
LOL
M
A
O
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>>486618081
Miyazaki WANTS the quest system to be bad. He wants you to miss shit because nobody tells you what to do or where to find anything. It's a feature, not a big.
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>>486617312
>>486618253
does Peeve still do those assassin build invasions? always thought it was fascinating how differently he could play the game then what i was used to. shit is fucking boring to play yourself though imho. you just can't really do enough damage with ranged to kill anyone, especially if they aren't afk and can simply dodge shit.
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>>486618837
See
>>486618979
Placidusax' Ruin is NOT even CLOSE to one of the best incants in the game. It's arguably one of the worst. The shockwave is decent but the flame breath is awful and it takes too many memory slots and costs too much FP to be worthwhile since it has ZERO HA and the breath sprays too wildly.
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>>486619030
Why is storm blade still so FUCKING strong? Can it be consistently reaction parried? That's the only thing I can think of that would hard counter it, considering how fast, cheap, and oppressive it is.
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>>486618131
All of them are good but Dragonmaw is in it's own tier of braindead unga bunga. You can just hit trade your way through every boss with very few exceptions.
"Upgraded" breaths deal a bit more damage but are fucking impossible to properly aim without locking on and they cost a fuckload of FP to use.
The regular rot and ice breaths have the same status buildup as their named versions and are superior because of their lower cost and ability to be cast while on horseback.
Bayle's incants suck dick and there's no reason to use them in PvE.
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>>486618052
She looks like she gives her womb over to pest larvae
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>>486619030
holy based poopoo man
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>>486619030
Hahahaha my fucking sides
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>>486619180
DLC introduced better projectiles, and it can only go on swords
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>>486619190
agheel's is based because breathing fire while hovering midair is cool
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>>486619030
Based. Keep doing the (blood) lord's work, anon.

>>486619180
New talisman from the dancing lion makes all storm shit stronger. Also no it can't.
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>>486618253
>I don't think I've seen even a single open world invasion where they actually went and fought an open world boss
Well fucking obviously not, because you're there and you're going to make fighting a boss fucking miserable.
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>>486619030
Part 2 where they start trying to offer me ransom payments.

>>486619030
Bro I have no idea. I got rolled by a Stormblade Great Katana last week
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>seamless
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>>486619030
Sorry man, you wear a mask that goes against my rules, I'm going sever you now. No hard feelings, just don't be a shitter next time ;)
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>>486619161
it shreds radagon despite being pure holy I don't know what you want me to say
ancient dragon lightning is better, so is death lightning if it hits, otherwise i'd say placy, and ice lightning? are the next in line. rings of rad if you can cast it but its a bit slow compared to spamming three rings, after beating the game with holy.
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>>486619115
I'm pretty sure Peeve has been hardstuck on Radahn for at least a week.
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I swear no matter what I do I never get faces right.
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>>486619030
incredibly based
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>>486619392
>it shreds radagon despite being pure holy
No it isn't you fucking moron. The shockwave does lightning damage and the breath does fire damage. You're advocating for an incant and you don't even know how it functions.
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>>486619470
dear lord
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>>486619339
And in this final part we see what the dung eater thinks of your attempts to buy him off.

>>486619339
Meant to reply to>>486619180
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>>486619569
You're sad.
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>>486619194
she is mostly sentient mushroom now with the soul of a samurai from the land of wano I mean reeds
shadows die twice : )
wish you could properly take over the demigod powers

>>486619503
>placidusax laser beam which is holy, is fire
ok retard.
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>>486619360
Think you missed the point of that webm seething white mask user.
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>>486619470
You've got it perfect if you were trying to give the impression of a Type B who regularly teleports back to Limgrave to let Godrick soldiers gangbang her in every hole
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>>486616779
Stealth in ER invasions is underrated as fuck. Especially if you're a stealth mage because nobody can survive a surprise Comet buttseks
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>>486619161
it looks cool tho
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>>486619470
Even caelid dogs would be terrified
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>>486619569
You're based + Aryan
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I don't know why, but one of the things that piss me off is how you have this entire castle being protected by one side only when you can just take another route and reach the fucking throne room with godrick right over there
I understand that they added the side path just to not make elden ring linear but holy shit, surely they could've done it better? extend stormveil castle a little bit? put godrick's room in the middle of the castle?
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>>486619319
>Well fucking obviously not, because you're there and you're going to make fighting a boss fucking miserable.
...and? That's the point. You summoned help and I'm here to balance that advantage. You have 3 people, me and the boss (which can also probably hit me accidentally so I have to be careful around it) should be asymmetrically equal to that. You can't get mad about that, that's literally the game mechanic. Also you just proved my point: you aren't going to fight mobs so you better bring in another red or I'm going to leave you with a dead game until you do. I'm not honorably 1v3'ing you you pieces of shit.
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>>486619631
Anon he's right. The beam Placidusax fires and the one in the incant deal fire damage.
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Golden vow (skill) for 11.5%attck and 7.5 def ofr 45 seconds
or the spell for 15% attck and 10 def, but 30 seconds only
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>>486619643
You sound upset. Remember to change your tampon.
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im guessing you're going by the wiki but its holy, I learned this from pvp videos a year and a half ago and they boosted it WITH HOLY talismans.
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>>486619660
I was going for respectful Carian knight.
>>486619685
>>486619568
What could be improved here?
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>>486619569
Incedibly based and jovial
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>>486619115
>you just can't really do enough damage with ranged to kill anyone, especially if they aren't afk and can simply dodge shit.
Use a STR build with igon greatbow. Fish for headshots while blending with environments through host trick mirror. You will be surprised how much damage you do with igon's WA on headshots with a headshot booster. It's oneshot territory.
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>>486619790
Latter with old lord talisman
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man all these pvp webms always look like the most retarded shit imaginable
peak adult mentally stuck as a teenager material
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>>486618256
He's just neat
and so hot why am I like this I'm a married man
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>>486619631
>ok retard
Good lord you're so fucking dumb. It doesn't deal holy damage from him as a boss or in the incantation, it's fucking fire damage.
>>486619673
It does look very cool, yes, but pretending it's "one of the best incants" is ridiculous. It's C tier tops.
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>>486618698
lol no. Flaccidpenissex's incant is fucking terrible and only good for assaulting everyone's eyes in an FC and getting you sniped by a spell in return while you hover in the air missing everything
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>>486619401
>But who is the sorrier? The horse who knows only to kick, or the fool who approaches the old beast without thought?

I just love that you use Kick, good show anon.
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>>486619569
did they ever get the mask back?
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>>486619793
>no u
You would think your white mask would obscure your seethe yet it does not do a good job of it.
Your "no u" is ineffectual, remain seething white mask shitter.
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>>486619889
More respectable than being a Miquellapedo I guess
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>>486619825
I dont even know, face sliders are black magic. Took me longer than radahn to get a decent looking character and even then she still looks a bit strange. I guess you could try reducing the cheeks and jaw a bit.
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Post the webm in the metyr area
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>>486619881
welcome to the degradation of the general to the norm
a lot of the non austistic anons have beaten the DLC and moved on leaving the dregs
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>>486619983
You think a kid bullied at school would ever act nice? Lol no.

>>486619793
You struck a nerve, the woman is furious.
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>>486619983
No, after that they were so offended that they got bloodlusted and rushed me and desu I got completely btfo very fast.
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>contradicted and wrong yet again on something I studied before opening my mouth cause its just fucking changed apparently inb4 its always been fire
goodbye.
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what's the best sword to put this bad boy on? I prefer straight swords. Will using a greatsword increase the L2 damage from the aow?
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>>486619790
the spell lasts 80 seconds though
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>>486620107
iron greatsword
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>>486620062
Why are you so mad?
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>>486620062
I'm an invader. They were the ones stupid enough to do an item transfer without using a red sign so that I couldn't invade and rape them.

They gave me the chance for an ultimate level victory so I went for it.
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>>486620107
The one you think looks the coolest
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>at the end of catacomb, just before yellow fog
>backtrack to check invisible walls to get to an item I can’t figure out how to reach
>clip through and fall to my death
Nice goty you got there
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>>486619825
>>486620032
One other thing lighting is super important. You can buy the cookbook for glowstones from Kale, they should help for screenshots. Turning on raytracing will also make your character look better.
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I was bullied in school
I'm not a dickhead
Then again, I developed beyond high school emotionally so that shit is just a distant memory at this point
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My dad beat me as a kid
I was bullied in school
Im a worthless unemployed neet that it too retarded for training courses
I invaded in elden ring for 8 hours today
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Mine wife'st
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>>486619850
Show build and I'll give it a shot. Or at least, what's the setup with damage buffs and talismans and the like? And how much damage are you getting? Are you actually able to oneshot? What greatarrows are you using? I need details. I don't even have that weapon yet, I have to go look it up. I'd assume it's after bayle.
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>>486620107
Greatsword for hyper armor, iron greatsword for damage most likely
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>>486620279
redman bad
you got bullied
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>>486620107
There isn't a "best" option because no sword has inherent INT scaling. Just put it on whatever you like.
>>486619569
Based as fuck kek.
>>486619360
You're not even TRYING to hide the fact that you wear the white mask and how bad all this hurts your feelings. How embarrassing.
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>>486620062
Based & angered the wannabe school shooter so much, it tried to argue it had the superior moral ground.
So damn based.
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>>486620441
ER raytracing only does shadows I'm pretty sure
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>>486619720
>he thinks someone whose character is utterly singlemindedly focused on murdering other players and boring else is "balanced" when the host is summoning some random schlub with random stats and loadout for a boss
None of the people you "fight" are they're for the pvp. You're just bullying kindergarteners at this point.
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DeepL:

MESSMER: Why did you come to this land? Does she (your mother) knows?
MIQUELLA: My mother is dead and her world has failed, so I will abandon everything and become a new god with my king. I'm busy, goodbye.
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>was aiming at a completely different cooper but pve body blocked me
>it still raped another because nobody knows how to dodge this thing outside taunterfags
>can be used to get away too
I'm actually arguing whether to sacrifice some weight and have this thing on a softswap, it's too useful and versatile
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People dont understand anything about what Miyazaki is saying. Its driving me mad.
Messmer's birth was shadowed by a chthonic force, manifesting as the Abyssal Serpent within him. This dark entity embodies the alchemical Putrefactio, the stage of decay and dissolution that precedes transformation. The serpent's presence suggests an alignment with the Abyssos, an astrological domain of deep, transformative darkness that influences those touched by its power.To contain this volatile force, Queen Marika enacted a ritual reflecting the principle of Solve et Coagula. By removing one of Messmer's eyes, she dissolved his physical sight (Solve), replacing it with a seal that functioned as a Lapis Philosophorum, the Philosopher’s Stone, aiming to coagulate his chaotic energies into stability.The Mercurial Serpents and the Aetherial Realm signify the influence of Mercurius Volatilis, the volatile spirit in alchemy representing transformation and duality. These serpents, emissaries from the Aether, the astrological realm of ethereal and transformative forces, guide Messmer, whispering esoteric secrets that aid in his relentless purge. The intrusion of the Tarnished into the Shadow Keep coincides with a pivotal Transmutatio, the process of profound change. This moment, akin to a rare astrological conjunction in the Cielus Obscurus, marks Messmer’s decision to unleash the full power of the Abyssal Serpent by removing Marika's seal. This act represents a plunge into Rubedo, the alchemical red phase of final transformation and self-actualization through intense struggle. In his dying breath, Messmer's curse upon Marika evokes the concept of Maledictio, an astrological period of reckoning and karmic consequence. His curse resonates through the arcane and celestial spheres, a testament to the failed alchemical journey and the tragic realization of his forsaken destiny.
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>>486620530
Yeah I got him bad, all thanks to my huge dragon dildo up my ass right now. Gives me clarity of thought.
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>>486620539
Yeah it makes face shadows better or something. I think it only makes a difference in the overworld.
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>>486620631
It was his DLC....
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>>486620585
Exactly. But you're wasting your breath trying to reason that retard. At this point, invaders operate on scammer logic.
>it's their fault I fight them
>they're dumb so it's okay if I ruin their day
>they just didn't have to [insert totally arbitrary rule]
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I don't understand how anyone in these threads unironically uses the white mask if they can't handle all the jokes around it. It's been an absolute clown mask for over two years now, the people who use it either stop when they can't handle the stigma or just leave the general entirely. Are you just newfags or what? I advise you to get thicker skin if people laughing at you for wearing meta headgear upsets you this badly.
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>>486614107
There is no level to carry through here and Metyr is a shit boss, based host did nothing wrong and you make reds look like faggots.
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>>486619013
Elden Ring is literally just DS3 on meth. Every argument you could apply to DS3 being lazy rollslop nonsense applies 3x harder to ER because the lesson they took away from DS3 was "oh yeah let's do that but MORE." And if you don't want to rollslop they gave you cheese tactics like antspur shielding or goomba stomping with the poise tear, which are equally lazy and equally braindead. Slop slop slop slop slop.
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>>486620476
https://www.reddit.com/r/badredman/comments/1dvcwu7/looks_like_sniping_is_on_the_menu_people/
Here's a sniper dude and he's doing outrageous damage with this setup.
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Post more autism webms
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>>486620828
>unironically
Fuck off back r/homestuck
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>>486620585
>those autocorrects
Apologies to anyone reading that mess, I'm phoneposting while making dinner
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>>486620828
you got bullied
redman bad
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>white mask
>meta
lole
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>>486620732
uh huh
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>The hat of Count Ymir, High Priest. The circular design at the top represents the Greater Will and its lightless abyss, imparting increased intelligence and arcane to the wearer. Though Count Ymir instructed Rellana in the sorcerous arts, he abandoned his allegiance to the moon. "It was merely the closest of the celestial bodies. Nothing more."
dollsimps blown the fuck out
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>>486620445
Make an image like this for radahn
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>>486620585
You're so naive anon. It's cute. You clearly don't invade tho.
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>>486620828
I havent seen a single person in this thread claim to use it. I have seen many people pointing out how this cult of anti-white mask people are incredible faggots
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>>486620953
Holy shit bro take your meds.
>>486621013
What are you even talking about? If you ask me the red who stole that mask was based.
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>devs give fkgs the true combo back
>balances it by nerfing its AR and locking its affinity to fire
Would this be a fair trade or would people still shit their britches?
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>>486620757
Sorry. Miquella had to be added in because Miyazaki doesn't want to make another DLC.
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>>486620539
Elden Ring's ray tracing implementation is truly terrible, I think they only did it begrudgingly at the behest of Bandai Namco. It's basically just ambient occlusion and the most minuscule global illumination. It also makes trees and bushes look different, but not necessarily better.

You're better off using fake ray / path tracing plugins (picrel) through ReShade, that's how bad it is.
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>>486621072
He's dead. My doll wife is still alive. Who's the loser now?
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>>486620032
I'm messed with the cheeks and jaw so much it's insane.
I can't get it right.
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>>486621160
sorry that happened to you
or glad that happened to you
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>>486615225
Based + same.
I'm not gonna reach the three fingers in my playthrough the NOT let them finger me. I earned it.
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>>486620530
Invaders are weird. They all act like they have the objective, superior moral ground and that thus, they're entitled to make others miserable for not knowing the 4535 rules they just made up in their heads.
Yet tell them the mildest, least offensive non-fully supportive thing, and they immediately break down in tears.
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>>486621072
You do know that's good for dollsimps right? It makes the moon not some weird outer god just a satellite. You're desperate for a win against rannifags when the best way to win against those subhumans is to ignore them
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>>486618180
They have this weird knight of firmament vibe to em
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>>486621148
There's zero reason to defend the white mask this aggressively unless you yourself wear it. It's been a meme that people who wear it are NPCs for -YEARS-.
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>>486621254
there's a difference between the regular moon and the "dark moon" that ranni glimpsed. retard
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>the tarnished is an illegitimate child of marika

meaning we are half siblings to radigon, miquella, malenia, melena etc
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real bait hours

>>486621172
People will complain no matter what
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>>486621148
okay white mask shitter
whatever you say, white mask shitter
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>>486620927
Sweet, thanks anon. Definitely a useful tool I'd love to have in my backpocket, should the need arise.
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>>486620471
Oh now. Now I like her and Patches together.
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fc?
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marikas village didnt deserve to be stuffed in pots for what reason exactly
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>>486621172
>>486621343
I'm happy with it the way it is though??? I don't want it changed at all, fuck off.
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>>486614107
total redgod victory
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>>486614941
Liberals are sissies. In 4chan terms, /pol/ and /fit/ are conservative and reddit is liberal.

Or, as my grandfather used to say, "a liberal is a conservative that has never been mugged."
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FUCK THE GOLDER ORDER
FUCK ALIENS AND THEIR CULTS
TOTAL FINGER DEATH
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>>486621241
Yeah I hate those nasty ass invaders. I just want to give a sloppy blowjob to my buddy dave that I summoned while steve watches and the redman keeps barging in to ruin my fun. You sound like a cool dude, you'd fit right into our gay orgies. You should come along some time.
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>>486616779
Nice and those two Type Bs need a strong tankbvll to carry them through the level
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>>486621474
>Shoves you in a jar
You didn't deserve to be stuffed in a jar for what reason exactly
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>>486621561
Thanks for proving my point about how thin-skinned invaders are.
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>>486621179
I wouldn't say post-processed ray tracing is more playable than the game's own implementation. It has its own share of issues, especially with consistency. Personally I play without either and toy around with both for screenshots to see what looks good.
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>>486621241
>They all act like they have the objective, superior moral ground

They do, though. Unironically. Go summon some more RL700's that get replaced by blues when they die so you can run back and resummon them, faggot.
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I was watching Jeenine (for the second time only, I was only made aware of his cry baby attitude yesterday), he got beaten by another streamer on stream then proceeded to shit talk the fuck out of HuggingTentacles and then got some people in his chat banned for applauding HuggingTentacles. I went to Hug's channel to look at the VOD. Here's what Hug really thinks of Jeez9 before they confirmed it was really Jeeznine.
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Chaos
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Any cool headgear for a Raya Lucarian wizard? Something that matches either Juvenile Scholar Robe, Lazuli Robe, Queen's Robe, Preceptor's Long Gown, or Raya Lucarian Robe? I want to play as a wizard but the glintstone crowns look dumb as fuck, and Rennala's hat even dumber. Considering the scholar hat I would have really preferred something more wizardy.
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>>486621619
I do deserve that
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>>486621471
Burger hours just means it will be invaded by a dsg clique
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>>486621632
I think you replied to wrong guy my friend. I said I hate those nasty ass invaders and invited my fellow wholesome anti-invader to my LBGT group.
Be careful you're responding to right guy my dude.
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>>486621327
>go into place
>see many people acting like giant faggots against (Thing)
>youre a faggot
>FUCKING (Thing) DEFENDER
I think you just have cognitive dissonance desu
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>>486617312
This but if it's a 1v1 rush the host they are usually trash hence why they are relying on unfair advantages.
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>>486621690
The Three fingers HATE him
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>>486621680
chat is this real?
the jeenine situation is CRAZY
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I really feel like we could have talked things out with Malekith instead of killing him.
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>>486615589
Thorns and antspur cheese?
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>>486621773
Yep, you're mad. Keep going, you're only proving my point further. Go on, keep embarrassing yourself.
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>>486621330
There's no indication of that considering rennala showed her that moon as a kid and it's the same moon rellana and rennala saw as kids. If ones nothing the other is likely nothing too. Again, rannisimps are retarded.
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>>486621775
>go into place
>see people laughing at thing they've been laughing at for years
>suddenly have intense need to defend it
I think you wear the white mask desu
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>>486621690
He looks like uses the black blade
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>>486621475
As am I, however with people screaming about how the combo vaporized their health I wondered what would’ve been a good trade for letting it keep the two hit combo. Curb your autism.
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>>486621830
Who knows.
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>>486621871
You responded to the wrong guy again my dude.
Are you new here?
Check the FAQ first.
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jeenine genuinely seems quite mediocre at pvp
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>>486621830
If we couldn't talk things out with fucking Blaidd I don't think we'd fair better with blaidd but edgielord
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>>486620171
Yeah I'm retarded, I watched a 240p jewtube video and I thought it was 30s. Yeah 80s is more than enough for a boss fight (I guess), I guess I could grab the old lords talisman like teh anon mentionned if it's not long enough
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>>486621958
I accept your surrender.
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>>486621340
If you want an actual more accurate translation of the Japanese text about the mosoleums they don't actually imply they're her kids but her descendants, meaning the dead demigods in them are all godwyns kids. The "dregs of the golden lineage". If that means anything it means godwyn is your father and marika is your grandma.
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>Thread is full of autistic mini game fags
Is this a time of day kinda thing or have we transitioned back to being /dsg/ but for Elden Ring?
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>>486621830
He was never giving that rune willingly
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>genius idea
>use greatsword of damnation after sleep shotgun
>it's like 3 frames too slow to true combo
W A K E M E U P
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>>486621942
Locking it to fire infusion would have been SO much worse than killing the combo. It was never meant to have that combo, it took its R1 from the GSGS and the GSGS never had it. It was a bug.
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>>486619013
How are they bad faith? Most critiques with the combat are emperically observable even if you like the combat.
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>>486621632
>Thanks for proving my point about how thin-skinned invaders are.
you sound like you're on your period. i can just imagine a crazy cat lady karen saying this. you're just missing the "ya'll" and it'd be perfect.

>>486621680
classic. wish he'd just learn to chill instead of taking the game so seriously. he's like one of those guys who wins all the time so he's not used to failure, so when he fails he just has a complete nervous breakdown over it, like there's no way he could possible lose at anything, ever. saintriot and peeve are still the best role models for invaders imho, great attitudes. jeenine is undoubtedly great technically at the game, but he has the emotional stability of a 2 year old, and it's honestly very entertaining to watch ngl.
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>>486620732
explain in simple terms
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>>486622040
I'll never surrender to the nasty ass reds. You're going to die to dave and steve eventually.
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>>486621632
Based, you caused a meltdown among the shitters.
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>>486620732
Holy based schizo
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>>486622081
>NOOOOOOOOO I DESERVE TO UNAVOIDABLY 100-0 PEOPLE WITH MY CHEATED IN SLEEP BOLTS
Dude fuck off lol
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>>486622081
It's impressive you managed to type these words without choking on the cock you're gargling on
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>>486621680
>DUUUDE ECELEBS
You must be 18+ to post here
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>redgang still can’t have runes active when invading
why?
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>>486621471
join
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>>486622010
NTA, but I would've appreciated being able to send him off knowing why I was doing what I was doing instead of just the hurt and confusion he showed.
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>>486621797
>If you're fine with 1v1's but they have a rune arc and twice the flasks then that's on you, I'm not here for that shit.

i just get bored after like the 4th or 5th sippy, so i stopped bothering with it. it's just a slog even if you win.
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>>486622247
Hell yeah sister, I use the white mask and I've had enough of these mean bullies calling me a shitter when I use it. We're going to stick it to these bullies and fly our flags with pride.
Semper fi.
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>>486621641
It has flaws, but it's still preferable to
>does nothing
>rapes your performance
I think the most annoying thing is that it applies over the UI, but that's only really an issue on the map screen. It's also customizable, thank god. I still typically play with it off, and just limit myself to using manual color correction to tone down the green post-process filter that FromSoft loves so much and push the dynamic range on SDR.
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>>486619470
looks like an oblivion character
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>>486622064
I dont know why reds are this autistic, or what compels them to be like this
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>>486620732
perfect! wait till i tell vaati about this :)
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>>486622297
reds are such pussies lmao
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>>486619401
>eeeerm I've been playing these games for 15 years ok sweetie? I don't need your advice mmkay?
>Stuck on the boss for over a week

Embarrassing. What is pattern recognition?
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>>486622283
It's a 3v1 un ironically yes
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>>486621680
zased
>>486622293
jee is dsg culture
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>>486622453
Of course they are. Otherwise they'd do duels instead of ganging up on people trying to play the game.
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>>486622079
He would if he thought it was what Marika wanted.
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>>486622530
I more have an issue with the cheated sleep bolts than anything else honestly. We both know you didn't slaughter jellyfish for countless hours to get those.
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>>486622323
(Y) Button.

Plays on Xbox. Or PC, with an Xbox controller.

Huehuehuehue
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white masks are for virgins
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>>486622397
There might be a plugin for ER that allows reshade to ignore the UI layer entirely, I'm not sure how that works but I've seen other games have it
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>Invaders are at their absolute weakest
>Hostcels STILL bitch about them daily
PFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>486621730
Greathood
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>>486622545
We're not dsg thoughbeit
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>>486622106
I’m aware that it was a bug my guy, I’m just wondering what would make for a fair trade if they decided to let it ride as a feature unique to the weapon.
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>>486622387
Fair enough. It depends on how sweaty they are usually they don't get to sip that much for me. Could always just annoy them from a distance and try and draw them into PvE at that point.
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>>486615589
What cheese?
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>>486622620
Oh absolutely not. Insane waste of time. At least let me buy the mats so I can just craft them instead of having them be super rare for no reason.
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>>486621254
You're thinking short term. The moon is still an outer god, it's just one of the weaker ones. Wont take long before the something else comes flying in on a meteor and fucks Ranni's order up.
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if you shoot me with a sleep bolt, golem arrow or use a starlight shard you are getting chainsawed its just that simple
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>>486621254
I'm actually convinced most anti ranni shitposts are done by rannifags who want to make their opposition look retarded. Either that or people obsessed with ranni, either loving her or hating her, are both two sides of the same retard coin. Indifference is the key. I prefer sellen
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>>486622656
Don't worry, won't be a problem in the next game since From are going to axe invasions.
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>>486622769
>for no reason
Anon, think about what you just said.
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>>486622476
Let the man color is coloring book in peace

>>486622636
I wish. I think there's a plugin that relies on toggling effects based on detecting specific pixels, which would technically work with Elden Ring because there's that clock in the bottom right of the map screen that never changes. But I think any plugin that does apply effects before the UI pass would probably require the full version of ReShade and trip EAC as a result.
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>>486622769
>for no reason
Bruh.
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>The storyteller folds her slender hands - both pairs - and speaks.
>"It happened an age ago. But when I recall, I see it true."
>So begins the tale of the Shattering, a devastating war between the children of Marika, Demigods of the Lands Between.
>One grim night in the depths of winter, a flock of unknown assassins stole across the Lands Between.
>In a coetaneous attack, this foul covenant snuffed out the lives of many of the God-Queen's kin throughout the empire, too numerous and too scattered for her godly protection to save.
>The assassins' targets were multifold, but none was as devastating a loss to the Eternal Queen as that of Godwyn the Golden. After his death, the Elden Ring was somehow shattered, and the order of the world broke with it.
>Out of this chaos came war. Open, bitter war, pitting blood against blood and kin against kin.
>The conflict broke a vast and prosperous empire into brittle fragments.
>No single side could find enough purchase to maintain a decisive victory, even when fueled by the power of a Great Rune.
>The battle of General Radahn against Malenia the Severed illustrated that neither strength nor skill alone would be enough to take control of the entirety of the lands Marika had united.
>And so, the Lands Between are no longer gripped by open war, but caught in an uneasy stalemate that seems impossible to resolve.
>"Unless of course," the storyteller says, a coy smile on both her lips, "thou shouldst take the crown?"

Did Martin have different plans for Ranni? Seems like she was originally the narrator/lore dumper. She also seem to not have participated in Godwyn's death.
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>>486622772
>>486621876
There's no indication for this besides your own headcanon rannifag. Keep defending your dollwife by acting like a strawman.
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>>486622476
His copes are actually kinda embarrassing, how the fuck do you not learn how to dodge shit 80 hours in, literally keeps trying to roll everything, an anon was spot on about him the other day, he was a big fish in a small pond all along
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>shitter mask gets called out
>suddenly the entire thread is filled with people seething about da bad red man
really makes one think
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>>486622790
you got bullied
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>>486622927
lips...
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>play online with my rot build
>invader just pops up 9999 boluses that he cheated in
>completely negates my build
>then he mocks me in his circlejerk for not playing optimally
>change my build
>invader runs in place, then abuses jumping attacks
>then mocks me in his circlejerk for using a meta built "stolen from youtube"
You just can't win with these DSP fanboys: if you somehow beat them, you were cheating and deserves to be trolled. If they beat you, you're a scrub because [insert whatever reason they can think of]
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Surely they bring back covenants next game... right?
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>>486622707
There is no fair trade. Even if they gutted the AR people would just bleed infuse it instead and locking it to specific infusions is fucking dumb, no weapon in the game is locked to specific infusions.
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>>486622927
>coetaneous
>multifold
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>>486615354
All you can do is patiently shepherd them toward learning how to play the game

>>486622952
>big fish in a small pond
Describes all Souls content creators, really
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What in the goddamn was his problem?
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>fog wall
>fog wall
>fog wall
>fog wall
>gank on desert low level area
>fog wall
>fog wall
I was thinking about leaving one character on 137 but I think there's no point.
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>>486622297
?
What do you mean?
You can.
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>>486622984
Bottom right looks very Bleach-esque, not bad anon.
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>>486623106
hungry
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>>486622927
Martin did basic world building
Miyazaki clearly loves Ranni and has huge favoritism towards her so he shoved her everywhere.
He apparently made the right call and waifufags slurped it up
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>>486622975
let me have this one thing in life ok
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>>486622323
2/4
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>>486622927
Ranni? Dishonest? Never.
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>>486622984
Next game won't even have invasions or the invasions will be opt-in by people playing coop.
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PVP just feels like.. an arms race I guess? To try and use the most broken shit because it's so comically un balanced. I don't remember it being THIS bad.
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Can I make the death knight axes work on a pure faith build?
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>>486623106
Shaman genetics
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>>486623125
good
fuck reds
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>>486622965
There's one faggot with absolutely unmistakable vocabulary always seething about invaders
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>>486622927
He didn't have different plans for her at all. Her being shown there is because she's a favorite of both miyazaki and Martin. No im not fucking joking. We know miyazaki is a carian simp, he's said three of his favorite bosses were rykard, radahn, and rennala, he's said one of his favorite npcs is ranni. Martin likes writing his favorite characters in as scheming overpowered special snowflake shutins/cripples who go against the current order in some way, asoiaf was originally just brans story and the king bran thing at the end of game of thrones was Martin's idea for the end d&d said so themselves. Then there's stories like tuff voyaging and others with op shutins. It's one of his tropes.

The carians are the authors' pet faction and it's really fucking obvious which is why we hate them.
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>>486623228
No. FTH does fucking basically nothing for their AR and ash damage. Both DK axes are STR weapons with FTH tax.
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>>486622323
3/4 JOIN NOW
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>>486623051
yeah, the attacks happened around the same time on multiple targets.
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>>486623307
you got bullied
now you try to hold some control
sad
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>>486623218
I dunno, even if you beat up others, they'll just bitch on reddit or /erg/ about how it doesn't count because you used a youtube build or you had a white mask or whatever else miserable cope they can come up with.
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>>486622984
Covenants were always shit
>Hey help out/invade/whatever 50+ times and you get a useless spell :)
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>>486623402
Here she is. Afraid to be called out this much, eh?
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>He actually wears the white mask
You look like a clown and everyone laughs at you when they see you.
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you didnt beat me in pvp
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>>486622948
You can't even know who's on what side of this fuck off
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>>486623248
Just look at this shit.
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>>486622984
Sellen marriage and extremely lovey-dovey kissing while holding hands
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I'm not sure I understand the timeline correctly; Marika's ascension to godhood required some sort of sacrifice.
Was it her people? I thought the Hornsent were using her people as pot filler
Was it the hornsent genocide? I thought that came AFTER because she was pissed about the above.
Was it some unspecified people?
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>>486623508
didnt read
look forward to your next beating
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>>486623446
>ifunny
You need to be 18 at least to post here, kiddo.
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>>486622965
The discord contingent ITT is hardcore.
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>>486622984
Nope. You have to understand Covenants are mainly a multiplayer thing and Fromsoft is moving away from it.
For example: They had a lot of trouble in DS3 with people getting others banned and having to close servers because of their sloppy code.
In Elden Ring, to help this, they added EAC. Which involves money and negatively impacts the game performance (one of Elden Ring's main criticism). Even if it's Fromsoft's fault to begin with.
Then, in DS3, Covenants were also related to npc questlines and interacting with them breaks other quests (one of the game's main criticism) Which is why they removed it in Elden Ring and you can be a bloody finger, interact with dragon communion, join the volcano manor, ranni and have the frenzied flame all at the same time with zero impact. They got lazy, basically.
Next game will probably have PvP only in arena lobbies or in specific areas if they feel like it (doubt). With full on co-op, going by the success of Seamless Coop.
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So I invaded someone on the over-map the other day, and I don't think they had ever seen someone use the Concealing Veil talisman before.

I stalked the host and their one phantom, using the invisibility talisman, pop out and use swift slash from behind them exactly once. They just panic rolling non-stop. And in their panic, I dart out, and then just crouch back down. And repeat. Just vanishing into the DLC wheat fields.

At some point the host and the phantom just started keeping their backs to every surface they could find, trees, etc. And would try to move sideways.

They were probably younger or whatever, but that was really fun.

It wasn't about getting kills at that point. It was just about shattering their minds and leaving them with an inescapable sense of terror.

It was a hoot! I miss being able to do invasions like that.
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Still waiting on that great sword rebalance
Absurd how you can dab on low levels with a fire katana but you won’t hit shit with a greatsword
How did we go from GOD3’s black knight sword to this?
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>>486623567
Hey, stop repeating things your papa told you last night
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>>486623554
Imagine settling down with sellen after becoming a lord. Just living happily ever after having lots of kids with my cute teacher.
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>>486623650
Greatswords are for fags. Real men use colossal swords. Hit the gym pussy.
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>>486623650
Greatswords are good right now.
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these dorks trying to push their rules onto other peoples games
like this nerd >>486623670
reds are dumb
you arent welcome
you will be ganked
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>invcels say dumb crap
>they get mock for it
>"w-w-w-why is everyone angry at us????"
>"D-Discord cabal!!!!!!"
Holy shit, the cope!
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>>486623106
Lunacy in the blood.
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>3/4
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>>486621680
>Jeenine was actually getting a bunch of new viewers with the DLC release
>In less than a month he's back to his regular numbers because he bitched so much and insulted so many new people in his chat that they all left
What a fucking retard
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>>486623617
Stealth is the single most underrated invasion tool in ER. If you're okay with extending your invasion you can do absolutely mad shit and make people paranoid.
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>>486622767
Scholar shield + fingerprint shield + antspur or bleed poke = free kill on any boss that is either bleedable or rotatable
Thorns do one trillion damage + bleed from essentially infinite distance
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>>486623348
Whats wrong with the creators liking a faction?
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hey guys can you stop talking about the online which is the only thing that gives the game we’re all playing longevity and start talking about the retarded lore nobody gives a fuck about instead?
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>>486623363
That's wrong.
The Twinaxes gain a ton of AR from DEX, because it raises both the physical and lightning AR at the same time, unlike FTH and STR that only raise the physical AR, the Greataxe barely gains anything though.
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>>486623782
The troon doth protest too much. We can all tell who the tourists are especially when they act like soft little children about invasions.
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>>486623218
That's because it is. The game forces you into it as an invader, which forces co-op'ers into it as a result. It's not a chicken or egg question between invaders and co-op'ers, it's really just the balance of the game inherently favoring co-op'ers in terms of both the multiplayer system (guaranteed 2v1s and 3v1s, no 1v1s like in previous games, no covenant PVP areas) and mechanics (predominance of sorcery, incantation, and ash of war spam, ranged spam is absurdly powerful relative to prior games, emphasis on multiplicative damage modifiers), while only benefiting invaders when it comes to one-shotting hosts from a distance.

All you can do is find an aspect of the multiplayer you personally like and enjoy the ride.
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>white mask lolcows laughed at
>they get defensive and cry about it
lol
cow
joke from day one
still big joke
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>>486623879
go back to /dsg/ stupid fuck
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>>486622626
>talking shit but can’t greentext
>reddit spacing
Ironic.
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>>486623836
100% agree.

A lot of invaders don't have the patience for it.
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please someone post the webm with the invader pretending to be an elevator door
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3/4
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>>486623961
>Doesn't know what green text means.
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>>486623782
Nice white mask bro, you totally don't look like an NPC! Nope not even a little!
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>>486623650
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-109
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>>486624029
Man I was gonna post bait but here you go
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>>486623782
You struck true, they are FUMING
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CAN I BEAT ELDEN RING WITH MY COCK RESTING IN BOILING OIL?
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MY FELLOW PATRIOTS, it has been 27 days since Shadow of The Erdtree released and we still have not received any news about Fromsoft's next game. I am FUCKING APPALLED.

PPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLEASE
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEASE.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>486623831
>still sticks to 125/150
>the insufferable people watching him stick to the same range too, turning it to a living hell on earth with nothing but ganks and taunties
The damage he did to the invasion scene is fucking monumental, i remember early DS3 and it was nothing like that. He basically gave spotlight to the worst elements of the community.
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>>486624192
it's perfect
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>>486623879
hey man why not try making a pvp/online only thread? it worked out really well last time, right?
oh wait...
kill yourself worm
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>>486624262
chill

>>486624242
yes
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>>486624192
That one is actually funny, even if it's totally staged and fake.
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>>486624192
I love you.
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>>486624192
Similar idea but different
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>DLC is out
>people discuss lore (even if it's retarded), new items, characters, boss fights, areas etc
>as people finish the DLC interest starts to fade
>thread devolves back to pvptard shitflinging INVCELS BTFO LOLOLOOOOL vs HOSTCELS BTFO LOLOLOOOOL
sad but inevitable
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I love sluts
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>>486623534
Keep seething at people dismissing your retarded interpretations
>>486623871
It's cringe the carians are all special snowflake niggers
HUUUR DUUR LOOK THE CARIANS HAVE LE STRONGEST KNIGHTS EVAAAR
HUUUR DUUR LOOK AT HOW COOL AND STRONG RENNALA WAS SHE FOUGHT RADAGON TO A STAND STILL
HUUUR DUUR LOOK AT RANNI THIS RETARDED LOLBERT WHO CAUSED ALL OF THE WORLDS PROBLEMS IS GREAT ISNT SHE LOOK WE HID THE SPECIAL FROMSOFT BRANDED SWORD BEHIND MARRYING HER
RADAHN STOPPED THE STARS FOR HIS HORSE ISNT HE SO HECKIN CHUNGUS WHOLESOME MIQUELLA AND BY ASSOCIATION MALENIA WERE OBSESSED WITH HIM BECAUSE OF HOW COOL HE WAS GODWYN? WHO? NO HIS MAIN GUY WAS ALWAYS RADAHN BECAUCE HES SO STRONG HERE YOU GUYS WANTED PRIME RADAHN RIGHT HERE YOU GO
OOOOH LOOKEY HERE ITS RELLANA OUR SECRET NEW SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE OC SHE DOESNT JUST HAVE ONE MOON BUT TWO MOONS ISNT SHE SO COOL AND EDGY WITH HER SHITTY DUAL SWORDS
LOOK ITS RYA RYKARDS TECHNICAL DAUGHTER ISNT SHE SO CUTE AND AWKWARD DONT YOU WANNA PROTECT HER ANON COME ON ANON LIKE THE HUNCHBACK SNAKE BITCH
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I'm a simple man. I invade. I cast vortex when someone is running at me. I charge up the ash and whatever happens happens afterwards.
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>>486623218
It was worse on launch what do you mean? They nerfed AR across the board by like 10% in PvP and separate balances by pvp/pve and have nerfed and or adjusted multiple AoWs and powerstance and jump attack damage because of how busted it was.
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All hosts and phantoms are evil, not a single one has a good soul, they must all suffer
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I'm so confused by the lore after playing the DLC, Rellana is Renalla's twin sister, but who's Rennala? And that guy who wants to be a mother was his teacher
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>>486624447
Nothing slutty about Marika
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>>486624373
>can't even hit a dude barely moving
How embarrassing! Invcels really are not good at the game.
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>>486624305
I genuinely think it would be ethically permissible to kill Jeenine outside of Minecraft, from the perspective of the universe
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>>486624447
Made for misshapen cock
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>>486624447
Made for cuddles
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>>486623884
So they are a quality weapon with FTH tax?
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>>486624368
Nah it's too innocent and pure for that
>Guy drinking blue estus and using a 30 second fire bufff while wielding an ice damage weapon
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>>486624449
goldtard irrevocably btfo by best family, die mad
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>>486624213
That white mask looks beautiful on you sister!!!!!
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>>486624432
it's just like two guys baiting because they're bored, calm down
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Thiollier is cute.
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>>486624213
So did you, you pissed the kid off. It's malding!
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>>486624481
>I'm so confused by the lore
everyone is don't worry
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>>486621680
Watching jee have his little fits is always hilarious and the lengths his simps go to defend him is wild. I remember an anon posted a link to a colosseum stream he did a wild back and commenting on how blocking a guy who stalemated him was bitch made and months later I’m still getting people swearing he did it because the guy was laggy despite the only lag/latency issue that happened occurring only once near the start of the fight. Truly jee is the ringleader to the world’s silliest clown show.
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>>486624720
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>>486624447
>>486624524
Marika never had sex. All of her kids as per melina's dialog, melina likely being one of the oldest demigods thanks to the dlc, weren't born through sexual reproduction like bocc but from trees like we see in the murals. Marika is only called a slut by a ((hornsent)). She's a virgin with a tight pussy waiting for your tarnished to finally steal her v card. It's what she's wanted all along it's why she's so on your side, she's actually a femcel and no one wanted to sleep with her due to intimidation and she knows you're the only one actually willing to.
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>>486623363
The faith scaling doesn't improve as you smith the weapon, and the weapon art scales purely with faith.
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>>486624695
No, it's a discord that operates here and on /v/ full of redditor moralfaggots who come here to try and troll the invader community here. They mass report, they try to dominate discussion and steer the culture and if you upset them, they samefag a lot.
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>>486624720
>tfw couldn't save st. trina for him
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>>486624481
>who's rennala
did you even play the game
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>>486622181
>saintriot and peeve are still the best role models for invaders imho
Not sure about Saint, he's too much of a hipster for his own good, but peeve has been consistently great for well over decade while completely rejecting metas and tiers
What we truly need is for jblackmel/martyrsbrigade to come back. Dude sounded like he's a boomer with a good life experience, the way he approached invasions was very chill and down to earth.
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>>486624865
schizo
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>>486624865
the amount of delusion here is crazy. what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>486624827
The cope to end all copes
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>>486624845
Use the weapon art with base FTH and 80 FTH and see how much damage it changes by. It's like a whopping 200.
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>>486624827
She fucked the ever living shit out of Rennala though
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L1 (hold) -> O -> L2 (hold) -> Start -> X,X,X -> Start -> L2 (hold)
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>>486624865
>the invader community here
What, the same two faggots who rant about what pieces of equipements are gay or not?
Not much of a community, lol.
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>>486624827
there's no way godfrey didn't rail her in every hole
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>>486624891
>for him
lol, lmao
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These guys now exist in Elden Ring.
Tell me about their lore.
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>>486624827
Reminder that Godfrey's 3 kids are the eldest. Messmer is not her oldest child and he and Melina are likely Radagon's kids due to being fucked up curse babies like the twins.
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>>486624865
>redditor moralfaggots
Reminder that reddit has a FANTASTIC invasion communities that have a lot of 4channers and even some old /dsg/ posters sharing their content there regularly
No, what you're dealing with is just discord trannies
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>>486624926
I see you fuckers, buzzwords mean nothing

>>486624934
Anon, they have even tried to use their fake "dragonirian" boogeyman here. They quickly gave up of course but the same.pattern happens on both boards. Bad faith coordinated samefaggotry/raids where they whine like pissbabies about invaders and try to make fun of them and shit.
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Anyone have a decent screenshot of the M'lady?
Google's giving me tiny shit.
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>>486624865
>who come here to try and troll
Oh so suddenly getting invaded is a BAD THING
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>>486625062
NTA but choosing the attention seeking retards we only kind of tolerate and taking that to be the pool of reds here is kind of goofy.
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>>486623831
>Expecting that low-test mutt to not be a shitter for once in his life

>>486624305
>nothing but ganks and taunties
Good shit attracts shit. They deserve each other. Just watch chill RPG Invaders instead.
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>>486624935
>>486624980
Rennala and her never had sex. Radagon was gay with godfrey, radagon has his own consciousness and is his own guy yet connected to marika. Godfrey was homosexual and always made radagon come out and replace marika's spot in reality whenever he was horny as he refused to touch a vagina. Nepheli was born after godfrey raped a bunch of brown men which is why she's so dark.
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happy hob just beat the DLC hitless just wanted to let my sisters know!
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>>486625172
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>>486624865
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about? It's literally a couple of tourists unironically seething and the failed invader baiting as always
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>>486624909
I watched some of his forest invasions and it turned around my perspective on Elden Ring in like 15 minutes. He's so positive, everyone takes the game too seriously now. Saint's still good, but his brain has melted thanks to a steady diet of whiskey and Twitch streaming, so he's simply not as coherent as he used to be in the DS3 days when he was really crusading to get people to reconsider the game's multiplayer experience. He just talks much less about the game, but he's also one of the only people doing post-commentary on invasions instead of dog shit, worthless live commentary like Chase and his spawn.
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>>486625163
Reddit is 4chan but with more rules and less anonymity. I'm sure you can find good shit. Most redditors are normies who think invaders are Trump voters and shit.

>>486625062
4chan is OG for Redman. Shut the fuck up.
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>>486625062
We get it you're very sensitive about the fact that you use the white mask.
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>>486624642
I'm not 100% sure but that seems to be the case.
Though in the case of the Twinaxes FTH also gives a decent amount of scaling, so it might fit well on a DEX/FTH build.
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>>486624262
A patch would be nice
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>>486625154
Couldn't tell you much about them. The spiral stuff is pretty weird. Its apparently some kind of shadowland isolate Erdtree-worshipping faith, which started up after the beginning of the crusade. But they're interesting inclusion though. And evidently, they would appear to control the tower of divinity.
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>>486625254
Well I don't see you telling them to fuck off, so I must naturally conclude you actually enjoy their presence.
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I want to carry out a campaign of womb torture/ovary bullying against Melina
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>>486625161
the biggest fly in the ointment is that messmer acted like an older brother to radahn. without that line it would be very clear cut that he was born after radagon left rennala and then had messmer, melina, miquella, malenia. but now we have to do mental gymnastics to determine whether he was still younger than radahn, but just acted like an older brother, or was born before radahn and marika just cucked godfrey or something
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>activity is through the roof
>people still reposting old webms
i don't get it
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>>486625161
They were born during godfreys rule, messmer was an adult while godfrey was still elden lord. Either messmer is one of her oldest or godfrey is a cuckold. Yes radagon is a guy with his own consciousness so marika birthing his kids while married to godfrey makes godfrey a cuck.
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>>486625305
It's more than two. Sometimes/v/ will have 3-4 bait discord raider anti Redman threads up at once. They have a whole pattern and everything.
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>>486625172
Read the OP, that's all the spoonfeeding you're going to get

>>486625440
'Bems are shelf-stable
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>>486625164
yep, there's definitely a shadowy discord where they scheme and plot about how to discredit pvpniggers on 4chan. I believe you absolutely, nothing crazy about this
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>>486625380
FTH does fuck all for both the ash and the AR. You just pay the tax and move on.
>>486625449
Nope sorry your gooner porn fanfiction has no basis in fact. Godrick's Rune states that Godfrey's kids are the oldest demigods, that makes them older than Messmer.
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>Failed to get Milkweed rune for Bloodborne

Fuck you miyazaki with these shit quests
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>>486625145
Yeah, he can have her.
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>>486625396
We’ve tried. Getting them to fuck off is harder than exterminating bedbugs so most of us just let them have their little jerk off sessions since it usually keeps them too preoccupied to shit up threads in other ways. Kinda like giving a kid an iPad so they stop touching shit in the car.
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>>486625440
I'm tired of invading already, when near only invasions take like 3 minutes to find something and near/far gets you to Liurnia and Lipmgrave you know shit's fucked
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To use a bow, arrows must be equipped
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>>486625505
I don't think it's Discord, but you can clearly tell the difference between a bait thread / a thread full of bait and a thread full of people who actually play the video game. I'm not just talking about the incredibly obvious Steam forum screenshot bait thread that was reposted probably 50 times by someone who literally admitted it's bait (but it always got to 500 posts, lol).

The trolls are incredibly obvious and desperate, but people choose to feed them anyway for whatever reason.
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>>486622656
it's really quite mentally ill if you think about it. truly annoying. imagine losing a 1v3 and crying you're actually the one at the disadvantage LOLOLOL!!!!!
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>>486625538
Nice try retard. Nobody is talking about discrediting. They're just trying to troll and or astroturf/gaslight so they can try to colonize the community.
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Is it wrong to wear mixed sets?
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>>486624935
He's actually right about the birth thing. Melina says sexual reproduction is incredibly uncommon and not how she was born. It's probably why a part of the rune of death is piercing marikas womb it's likely due to being fused with radagon she can just poop out new demigods at will. It's also likely how malenia was able to have the rot siblings, she likely asexually reproduced just like her mom did and probably does have a male half we don't see just like her mom and brother do.
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>>486625587
No. I'm greedy. They are all mine.
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>>486625708
No just make sure you hit 51 poise
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>>486625725
>Melina says sexual reproduction is incredibly uncommon and not how she was born
When the fuck did she say that or is that cut dialogue
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>>486625648
>russians getting BTFO
good
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what the fuck would you even talk about here without redGODS gracing your presence? the same retarded UHHH I GOT SUMMON AND HOST HAVE NO SCADU FRAGMENTS WTF!!! post over and over again?
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>>486625545
Then the latter part is true and godfrey is a cuck. We know he was still elden lord while messmer was an adult thanks to item descriptions.
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>>486625708
Only if you pretend that shit that obviously doesn't match matches.

There's a special place in my hate gland for people who use the Carian knight chest with Hoslow's gauntlets. You're using a set with probably the best gauntlets in the game, just fucking use them, no one is going to think you're cute or creative for slapping on something worse.
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>>486625145
>delusion
it really happened tho?
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>>486625705
colonize the community with who? people that actually play the game instead of the godawful pvp? you are mentally ill
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>>486625879
>We know he was still elden lord while messmer was an adult thanks to item descriptions.
Source or fuck off
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>>486625672
It's a discord. I'm certain. It's the o ly thing that explained the mass reporting that has happened in the past. Only a discord or a skilled better with a lot of VPNs can mass report like we were having.

>>486625808
She is curious and ignorant as to how people with mothers feel and says there still SOME birth happening in TLB when she tries to talk you out of Frenzy.
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>>486623617
>>486623836
>>486623994
people don't seem to realize that you can do whatever the fuck you want (within the rules of the game) in invasions. you could literally just never engage and just stalk an open world gank and watch them like a creep if you wanted. or you could blinkbomber your way in to kill them. lots of methods to choose from, yet so few seem to take advantage of the freeform nature of invasions like that. the simple answer is that you shouldn't engage in a disadvantageous situation ever. there's really no reason to rush into a 1v3 meatgrinder. make them play your game, don't play theirs.
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>>486622656
I always kill all 3 gankers and shit on their corpses
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>>486625959
play the game
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if the playerbase was less white would there be a better level cap than 200 that we have right now because of the dlc?
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>>486625154
they just look like albinaurics, so I guess that
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>>486625879
>thanks to item descriptions.
If we were talking about any other game series, this would be a fucking joke
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>>486625936
See? You just admitted your goal to to try to colonize /erg/ with whatever the fuck you want that isn't PvP.
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>>486626074
white people play at 125
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>>486626058
Pic related, it's you. Name ONE item to corroborate your pornsick fanfiction, you can't.
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>>486626164
POST YOUR PROOF
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>>486625161
The base game item's descriptions are not the gospel.

I argue that the DLC has served to help "illuminate" specific things, which were misunderstood in base game.

Things being the scorpion stinger and the god of rot. As well the weird family relation between Messmer and Melina (And both of them being able to burn the Erdtree, in addition to being born outside of wedlock).

Not so much as a retcon, as it is a deliberate form of clarification. This lore can be a little awful at times, so I'm trying my best here /erg/ not to straight up bash the inconsistencies as being unnecessary levels of obfuscation. I'm tryin'!

Random question: Do we know what the deal is with Melina's 2nd anime-eyeball unlocked mode thing? Like, from the Flame of Frenzy ending. I'm asking because of all the weird eyeball shit in the DLC, with Messmer as well as the dark/light eyeball rune fragment substitutes we can find.
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>>486626112
>blaidd's ***
do I even want to know

>>486626139
you've exposed me, I am actually the ringleader of this discord conspiracy. we will soon remove you filth from this general and you cannot stop us
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>>486623218
that's just the game, anon. it's a lot more fun when you accept it and stop fighting it. DS3 brain affects many of us, myself included, so i know the pain. but you can get over it, if you try. like, "yeah, they're going to use broken shit, so im also gonna use broken shit. let's see who out brokens who". that's fun. also i can't stress this enough: never run into a meatgrinder. they don't have FF. always be looking for a way to even the odds. that's your job as the invader. there are plenty of ways, get creative. the most obvious is just get them to fight you + a banished knight or equivalent.
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I just got the DLC. Is it even fun on NG+1 or is everything going to be bloated to shit and just rape me? I only had my save from when I finished the game a few months ago and I'd rather not have to play it from scratch.
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>>486625974
Yeah, well, even if you have sufficient reason to think that it's a Discord, claiming that it is doesn't do anything but make you look like a deluded schizo.

I say this as someone who can always ID that one DS2 fanboy who has been shitting up /v/ for years, the one with the WebMs with filenames like "dynamic, emergent, evolving combat". Man loves his nothing adjectives. But even though it's obvious that he exists to anyone who has actually tried to talk to him and watched him turn into a babbling ESL, you look crazy for bringing it up.
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>>486626074
White people play at 200, shitskins play at 125.
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Guy's I miss hexes :(
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>>486626112
>the host name is "Blaidd's Hoe"
>the other yellow is a barafag
yep
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>>486626112
>uppity red put in her place
Based.
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>>486626250
non-whites almost exclusively play dex while white men play strength, dex is complete unviable dogshit at 125 so naturally this filters the non-whites out
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>>486625725
>>486625808
>>486625974
I'd like to disprove what anon says
"Your seamster, Boc...
I see him crying, from time to time.
I think he misses his mother.
He wants someone to tell him he's beautiful.
Does being born of a mother...
Mean one behaves in such a manner?"
She expressed confusion at the behavior of someone being born of a mother. She never directly says how she was born but its unlikely she was born through natural means like bocc seemed to be. But again, like the rest of the lore, it's up for your interpretation and you can headcanon this away because you don't want to accept people being born from trees as it is admittedly retarded. Here's her jap dialog btw
"貴方のお針子、ボックさん
時々、泣いているの
お母様が恋しいみたい
美しいと、言って欲しいって
…母とは、母から産まれるとは
皆、そういうものなのだろうか…"
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>Duped pots
>Tryhard hardswapping
>Clown fashion
>Protecting homos
Failed invader humiliation ritual
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>>486624192
HOLLEEEEEEE~!!!!!!!!!!
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>>486626379
you got so much ghostflame and tibia and the hexer build was meant for 200 anyway.
Didn't work below 200 even in ds2
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>>486626285
Nope sorry. An item description is more evidence than your headcanon. Godfrey's 3 children are the oldest demigods.
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Is there anything more slutty than the sideboob of a Type B doing the Two Fingers in Goldmasks’s rags?
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>>486626398
BLOODBORNE PC PORT CONFIRMED
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>>486626398
OOOOOH ELDEN CRUCIBLE
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>>486625725
Melina is confused by normal births because she likely wasn't birthed normally. If you do the Frenzied Flame path she begs you not to and tells you normal births are still happening in the world and to not burn it all down.
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>>486624447
she doesn't look like that in the game.
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ggs guys i'm done for today
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>>486626482
>>Clown fashion
Just like the white mask
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>>486619568
>>486619660
>>486619685
>>486622437
Worse or better
Fuck me.
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Who is the father of messmer?
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Man, Thrusting Shields are fun as fuck.
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hideous minmaxed pvp armor sets are kino
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ggz bros igtg
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>>486626547
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>>486626398
Eclipse is godwyn symbolism so why wasn't it godwyn?
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>>486626653
ggs
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>>486626653
Good work at the bait factory

>>486626678
>>486619470
Worse, but in an entirely different way, somehow
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>>486626701
radagon, presumably
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>>486626112
>webm shows a red invcel getting HUMILIATED
>immediate cope from the Red Defense Force in the thread
lmao
You just love to see their bruised egos.
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ggs was fun
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>>486626817
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I don't know what to do!
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>>486626340
It's fine on ng+1 level 150, just get your skibidi blessing up to like 3 before you attempt any boss.
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>>486626701
radagon. curse + butterfly
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>>486626447
That's untrue I can smell your brown skin
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>>486626678
She looks like she gets captured and turned into a demihuman baby factory
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>>486626821
how come he isn't mentioned in the base game if everyone knows him because he was born after them?
if he was the oldest like the dlc implies then he should have done the genocide of the hornsents and then gotten banished to the shadow of the tree as his mother left to have more kids later
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>>486620732
Is it schizo? Yes. Is it based? Yes. Is it kino? Yes. Time for meds? Never.
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>>486626112
>Fucking 568 health
Congrats you killed a viglet? Why are you proud of this? If a red posted a webm of doing the same to a viglet host he'd get laughed at too.
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>>486626678
Too pouty. Increase distance of the mouth from the nose, pushing the mouth down. Change the brow.
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>>486627016
small indie company pls understand
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>>486626624
Never said it didn't just that she and likely her siblings weren't born normally
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>>486626403
>anti invader discord troon using subversive pronouns
Just. Fucking. Admit. I'm. Right.

>>486626342
You must be retarded. /vg/ and /v/ are rife with discord raider trannies. This whole "sis" and "she" thing? That's them.
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>>486626865
what do you mean
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>>486627054
You sound upset. This you in the webm?
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>>486626701
Radagon. All of Marika's incest babies have names starting with M, red hair, unique curses, and a butterfly associated with them.

>>486626112
>568 HP, meaning he has ~17 VIG
>bloodflame blade bloodhound's fang
>his walk animation tells you he's overencumbered / heavy load
I think this dude was just doing Varre's quest
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>>486626621
Crucibles can be made in a Kiln.
Elden Ring is Dark Souls
Melina is Velka.
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>>486627016
supposedly he was created from the very beginning (so i guess grrm's lore/worldbuilding) but fromsoft are so retarded and cut so much out from the games. so despite being an important character, he wasn't mentioned a single time and got shoved into the dlc just to have him
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>>486627096
its the pvper 125 trannies from dsg who do all the raiding
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>we will never know anything more about the rot god
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>>486627016
I don't fucking know, I'm not gonna make excuses for fromsoft's shitty story
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>>486627116
Why would I call myself a viglet? This is a very strange cope.
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>>486623363
>>486624936
Ok so with this I mind. What about a str+faith build that uses the claw seal for incantations?
I really wish the blink bolt ash of war was a touch better.
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>>486627101
OH SHE'S DANCIN'
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>>486627093
>"Melina says sexual reproduction is incredibly uncommon"
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>>486627182
Coordinating via discord.
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>>486627096
Its very easy ez to tell whats a retarded internet troll because they repeat the same words or phrases and my filter automatically picks em
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>I can never play elden ring for the first time
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>>486627249
Doesn't the pickled turtle neck say this
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>>486627016
he's not the oldest. the golden lineage kids are still the oldest. it's just unclear when he was born
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>>486627101
Excellent showcase of the AI here.

Does this also happen with light rolling enemy spirit ashes in the arena?
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I want to see the Radahn pantsless model and the animation of him bending over.
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>>486626701
>>486626921
>>486627016
It's not radagon its radahn. The butterfly is there because radahn is radagons son. Radahn got molested by marika and rellana
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>>486627186
He made my wife blind and ruined her life so I fucking hate him.
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I know this might come as a surprise but you can browse both generals
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>>486627220
Not as strange as getting so offended over a webm of a retarded invcel getting absolutely destroyed and humiliated like the bitch she is.
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>>486627363
imagine both marika and rennala coming into your room at night
zoo wee mama
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>>486627327
>Turtle neck meat, pickled in a bitter medicinal solution.
>Craftable item.
>Temporarily boosts stamina recovery.
>The nutrients churn through the body,
>practically boiling out endless power.
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>>486627335
so she randomly gave birth to messmer in the shadow realm and made him have revenge on the hornsents and then went back to the capital?
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>>486627249
That's not what I said. Try to claim that's what I said again and I'll kiss you on the lips. Fag
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>>486627223
It's shit. The clawmark has low spellbuff even with the 54 STR/45 FTH cap and that won't do shit for your axes since FTH does nothing for the ash. Again, just pay the FTH tax and move on. They aren't built to be used with FTH builds.
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yellowchuds and redcels have to accept this is a hostGOD game
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>>486627535
>invcel's anus statut : FLUSTERED
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>>486627493
I thought there was some line about turtle neck being considered good for sexual vitality, but this not being as popular now for whatever reason. Maybe I'm thinking of another item. Or maybe i was gaslit.
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>>486627472
I never once implied I was offended. I pointed out that invader is a retard and if a red posted a video of killing a retard host as a badge of honor like this they'd get laughed at. That dude has fucking 17 VIG man. He's an idiot. This is like beating up a kid from the special ed class and then acting like you're hot shit.
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Would messmer have become Leto 2 if he wasn't so emo?
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>>486627524
nta but learn to follow reply threads if you're going to use this site >>486625725
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>>486626701
Unclear. If Messmer also fought in the war of the giants, he too could have been cursed into having red hair.

Both Messmer and Melina seem to be quite sure about who their mother is though.
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>>486627673
>I'm not offended, I swear!!!!!!!
>b-b-b-but you shouldn't bully invaderchads, c-clearly you wear the white mask...
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>>486627497
no. messmer was around normally because radahn had interactions with him. it's just that she sent him on the crusade and then exiled him later on. the shadow realm was always a part of the lands between before it was hidden by marika, which is when messmer got stuck there

like i said, it's unclear when he was born, because it's hard to image a timeline that makes sense
godwyn > mohg and morgott > godfrey leaves > messmer > melina > radagon goes to rennala > ranni > rykard > radahn > radagon goes (back) to marika > miquella and malenia

this makes the most "sense" but it's still an ungodly amount of stupid
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>>486627535
I still remember running into some chinks who spammed this on every enemy in the level.
>watching the coinvader rush in and get raped to death by Stormveil birds
Harrowing.
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>>486627363
>radahn got molested by marika
>radahn got molested by sellen
>radahn got molested by onyx lords
>radahn got molested by selivus
>radahn got molested by pidia
>radahn got molested by rellana
>radahn got molested by radagon
>radahn got molested by miquella
I understand why he worshipped godfrey. He was the only adult in his life that didn't molest him.
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whats more likely, you’re a retard, or there is a secret underground organization raiding a niche internet forum to piss you off?
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>>486627706
I'm almost done with god-emperor and holy fuck the first half of this book was so boring, just like messiah and children

so far, this series seems like it peaked with the first book
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>>486627223
something + something is always shit
the clawmark seal is pretty bad but its the best thing when a 15 faith build wants to cast something because all the beast spells only require 15 or less faith.
The clawmark seal is for people who went 54 strength and 15 faith on their 125 build
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>>486627790
>random white mask mention
Holy mental illness. Your insecurity is staggering.
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>>486625725
You got a citation on Melina's dialogue there?
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>>486615125
not like yours, man.
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>>486627952
>secret underground
A group of retarded trannies ain't that and your continued protestation only serves to prove me right.
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>>486627790
You struck a nerve, she's malding.
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>>486627717
Yeah I never said it was rare or uncommon. You replied to me both times. Again, final warning, you will be kissed if you try to assert that again
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>>486627952
schizos will be schizos
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>>486627818
the reason he's not mentioned in the base game is because of two reasons
>he's the oldest
>he was used to take revenge and clean up marikas shameful weaknesses in the past and hidden after his work was done

Rellanas kids are also pretty old.
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>>486627962
>on their 125 build
Way to demolish all your credibility in one post and guarantee nobody will ever listen to you. Lol
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>>486627706
Nah that was Rykard's thing.
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>>486627962
There was also a time when Bestial Sling fucking rocked in PVP. Those times have long since passed however.
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>>486628027
>m-muh discord trannies
you are so pathetic it almost pains me to insult you
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>only 24 minutes left until my current procrastination limit is reached
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just have fun bros its the easy
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You know what, I'm gonna say it. Radahn is NOT Morgott.
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>>486627958
There's a reason the films will be done with the third one and not really touching that shit.
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>>486628179
do you look like this?
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>>486627985
He's full of shit she says >>486626467 all we know is her birth isn't natural and she wasn't born of a mother but she still considers marika her mom.
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>>486628179
Cute anchovy
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Wow this fag is really upset that people made fun of the white mask. We should do it more often, this is hilarious.
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I'm GAY
What should be my new run build?
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>>486628131
he's not the oldest. we have a great rune description that specifically states godfrey and the golden lineage were the first demigods. he's not part of the golden lineage
he wasn't mentioned because fromsoft just cut out 60% of anything they make because they're retarded
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>>486628159
Nah, I'm right and you've been seen. That's all that's happening. I remember how fast the anti-trans posts got mass reported in the past. You stupid fucks can't control yourselves.

>Mass report anyting you don't like
>Samefag autistically forever when called out on being discord troons
>talk shit when the mass reports cause deletions and vacations

You stupid niggers were literally smugly spamming the thread with all sorts of autistic flexes whenever one of your mass reports worked. You only stopped doing it when the antivaxx spammer started checking you.
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>>486628207
FUCKING INVCEL STOP CHAINSAWING PEOPLE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE A COSPLAY BUILD AND LIMIT YOUR OPTIONS AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT FAIR
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>>486628348
Miquella, Radahn and Mohg items.
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>>486628348
Pump all into STR
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>>486628259
do we even know what the plot of the third one is going to be? there's no way they're just adapting messiah as it is
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>>486628348
im gay and exclusively play grizzly men full strength with the heaviest armor I can find, make sure to two hand that shit as well none of this shield bullshit
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>we
Take your meds, schizo.

>>486628348
Chainsaw.
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>>486628354
I don't think marika wanted people to know what the horned warriors and curseblade masks did to her
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>>486628207
>gank with mage spam in small space
yep thats a chainsaw and block
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>>486628397
>There is a secret Discord cabal of trannies who organize to manipulate a vidya forum of random nobodies
>Some sperg ban evading to spam offtopic vaccine shit will ward them off though
Every once in a while I forget this site is mostly used by maladjusted spergs with persecution complexes and posters like you come along to remind me kek
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>>486628418
cute
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>>486628207
I want to learn that glitch. But man do I hate frame perfect menu glitches in souls games. No visual cues, no frame counting. Its hard to figure out what you're doing wrong, unless you're a single frame early.

How long did it take you to learn it?
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>>486628397
this is truly some schizo shit, you have invented some ridiculous boogeyman in your head

well, I can't convince you otherwise, so keep spewing your nonsense anon. whatever makes you happy
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>>486628207
How do I chainsaw on ps5
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>>486628207
>>486628646
how does that even work? like what's the game mechanic here that triggers damage on enemies no matter how far away they are?
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>>486628397
>You only stopped doing it when the antivaxx spammer started checking you.
lol, lmao. thankfully the one poster with 60 deleted off-topic posts in a single thread was here improving the thread's quality!
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White mask? Yep, that's a chainsaw.
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>>486628417
Regain your composure, woman. You are only embarrassing yourself.

>>486628706
Pretty much. That loser convinced himself there's a cabal out after him.
Typical paranoid bullshit.
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>>486628778
It involves the big hitbox that the Serpent-Hunter gets on the Rykard bossfight
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>>486628859
ohhh I see, that's kinda cool
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>>486628660
>to manipulate a vidya forum of random nobodies
Mostly to troll but they seem to want to "pwn the chuds" and have been trying to colonize the threads idealogically.
>Some sperg ban evading to spam offtopic vaccine shit will ward them off though
I haven't seen a single completely retarded ban/deletion for "off-topic" or "troll" since that guy was around. Before? Tons of people were whining about it and many many posts were getting nuked by mass reports.

>>486628706
That's the right attitude. Allow me to ruin my own credibility. Simply protesting the accusation itself will only strengthen my claim since people who had been noticed properly would do their best to try to deny it.

>>486628792
He made it pretty clear he was doing it because of the mass reports.
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I’ve been ruminating on an idea. Chaos and disorder seem to be interchangeable with fire and by serpents. The serpent seems to gnaw at the flame, feeding off of it. Disorder and chaos feeding off each other. The serpent also bites at the heel of Marika’s offspring. Disorder bites at the heel of her children, cursing them with disorder. Marika’s offspring have to bear the burden of their disorders. Now Marika isn’t necessarily the embodiment of order. She is the crossroads of chaos and order. Her burden seems to be in her myriad of offspring, all failures born of disorder and chaos. She looks to her lords to be the embodiment of order, to impose their will on the world and turn chaos and disorder into order. She also looks to them to create order in the form of her offspring, but they all fail. The Elden Lord seems to be the embodiment of order. The Elden Lord’s burden is to labor endlessly, crushing chaos and disorder until order has been imposed perfectly. They must push the proverbial boulder up the hill day after day, night after night, lest disorder and chaos overtake their progress. From chaos and disorder they all arose, and to chaos and disorder will they return.
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>>486628698
I dont know the exact amount of time but I just grinded it out while waiting for the invasion queue to pop over a few days, its not that bad when you get used to it when im warmed up I get it about 20-33% of the time. You can just macro it if you’re on PC but when you do it natty it feels so good
>>486628646
based
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>>486628418
I look and act exactly like this irl. I play a str build to compensate
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>>486628584
ANYBODY???
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>>486629051
Holy mogged by ranni
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>>486629051
we had one already...
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>no Leonard
>no bow
>no cragblade
We have yet to fight T R V E Radahn do I will keep bothering Miyazaki until we get it in the next dlc.
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>>486628584
2/4 join PLEASE i'm bored
>>486629112
I wasn't here
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>>486628941
The BBC spam that happened before the vaccine shit was also offtopic though. I get /pol/tards think the entire site belongs to them but when posts saying "wow Marika is literally made for being BLACK BRED" with uncropped porn of her gets deleted or some sperg spams the thread with antivaxx copypastas on repeat and gets deleted that's not a Discord cabal, it's everyone else being tired of that shit
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>>486629153
>elden ring 2
>radahn is the tutorial boss
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>>486629120
>me when someone dares to kill any of the turtles in the game
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>come up with a build idea
>speedrun the game, kill radagon/beast
>get the sacred relic sword
>TOTAL ALBINAURIC DEATH
>level up, fully upgrade
>"Finally, I can start playing the game"
>look back at what's left
what was it all for, bros

>>486628936
this but divine beast head
>OMG YOU CAN BE EFFECTIVELY RL 80 AS A RL1 WRETCH
>you need to basically beat the game in order to do that
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>>486629224
/pol/tards are retarded, plz understand
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>>486629224
I'm not talking about deleting NSFW. I'm talking about 3 day vacations for filename jokes attached to images of food and shit. One guy got mass reported for posting people with that cuteaneous horn syndrome within the context of Morgott and omens and shit.

There's either a botter or a discord who was mass reporting shit.
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>>486629273
this but unironically
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>>486629371
they are never wrong tho
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>>486629391
meds
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>>486629363
I have mogh cheesed off the map on all my characters but they fixed that glitch so now you basically have to beat the game as SL1 before you have enough equipment to beat mogh½
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Give me ONE good reason why I shouldn't just level every stat but health equally until I decide what build I wanna do
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>next dlc we'll fight radahn's secret twin (who marika gave birth to first and is also the super secret most powerful demigod), ranahd
>still no godwyn
peak kino.
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>>486629153
>no Leonard
>>486628941
You are delusional if you think /erg/ had "many posts getting nuked by mass reports" when off-topic and avatarfagging happened every single thread.
Whoever this retarded poster was got surprised that posting off-topic and writing "elden ring" in his post still gets it deleted. It's not doing it for "justice", it's just him being retarded and throwing a tantrum.
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>>486629391
Or maybe, maybe... it WAS offtopic shit and you deserved to be banned for posting offtopic crap.
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>>486628584
still 2/4....
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disappointed we never got a character with a french accent in elden ring. huge missed opportunity
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>summoned for Belurat Gaol
>fellow phantom gets oneshot by that shotgun move one of the jar innard dudes has
>I immediately jump on it
>it turns
>oneshots me with that shotgun move
>mfw
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>>486629391
get better jokes
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>>486629560
There's not going to be another DLC and I don't know why you idiots pretend otherwise. We literally have confirmation of this.
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>spell requirements
72/72/53

who designed this shit
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>>486613681
How are you meant to dodge Bayle's second flame breath when he flies in his second phase? He always flies at you with it.
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>>486628660
>maladjusted spergs with persecution complexes
thats literally me but i dont have this
is it autism then?
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>>486628706
Yeah dude, you can't help anon.

Clearly, their life is some kind of fucking trainwreck, that puts both of ours to shame. Their behavior here is evidently the only thing they can do to distract themselves from the nightmare zoo they live in.

Probably sounds cold, but just be grateful that whatever happened to anon hasn't happened to you. A little perspective here can help with reducing how aggravating anon can be.
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>>486629363
just use ce
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>>486629681
Impossible it's too powerful.
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>>486629681
miquella made me a porn addict
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>>486629753
a better question is why arent you going to 80 for all 3 of those stats? only acceptable answer is if you're hybridizing, in which case you SHOULDN'T be able to use every spell
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>>486629586
>when off-topic and avatarfagging happened every single thread.
Yeah. The offtopic and avatar shit THEY wanted. Chud shit? Ugly shit? Mass reported

>>486629607
Nah sorry, that's not how it works. A toilet full of chocolate pudding being served at a gay gastro restaurant iwith a dung eater filename isn't offtop and yet I've been handed a vacation for posting it before. Why? I was being rude and telling somebody to kill themselves and eat shit and they probably mass reported me for being a chud.
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>>486629805
>just play PC
lol,
lmao
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>>486628584
3/4 one more
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>>486629681
Have you seen some of the Miquellaposts around here? I think it has the opposite effect.
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>>486629867
The meta is RL200 tho?
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>>486629558
Because it’s a waste of levels and you’re not going to get to see what each build exceeds at.
Respecting is better if you want to experiment.
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>>486629758
Just get the dodge timing down. You want to dodge through it. Then dodge away from the aftershock.
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>>486629925
nobody said anything about rune level anywhere
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>>486629558
The game's stat system is SHIT ASS and all offensive stats are late levels leaning so its better to have one stat at 80 than two at 40
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Bonny Gaol
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>>486629786
>just be grateful that whatever happened to anon hasn't happened to you
my life is pretty shit, but you're right, I should be grateful I'm not as crazy as that guy
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>>486629391
What's more likely? A group or groups of people are coordinating online to mass report offtopic posts on /vg/ to serve some sort of tranny agenda? Or the retarded ESL spic jannies who Do It For Free[TM] are incompetent clowns?
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>>486629758
the fire seems close but you have to roll a lot later than you think
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>>486629867
>a better question is why arent you going to 80 for all 3 of those stats?
because you don't NEED to outside of damage, the points are better spent on mind for mana and endurance for havel casting
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>>486629391
They will reply in the negative, they will say you’re crazy, but we all know this is the truth. Keep spreading the good word.
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>>486629887
>post offtopic crap
>surprised pikachu face when he get banned for spamming offtopic crap
But keep blaming your boogeyman, that way you don't have to admit it's your fault.
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>>486630003
anon the term you're looking for is "back-loaded"
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>>486630001
You did inadvertently. Hybrid builds at RL200 can hit those numbers.
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>>486628584
still up?
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>>486630009
rolling ahead
so to speak praise the bug!
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>>486629887
>A toilet full of chocolate pudding being served at a gay gastro restaurant iwith a dung eater filename isn't offtop and yet I've been handed a vacation for posting it before. Why? I was being rude and telling somebody to kill themselves and eat shit and they probably mass reported me for being a chud.
you're fucking annoying and posting random unrelated shit and giving it elden ring filenames is offtopic. You're not trying to start a conversation about the dung eater, you want to talk about how you think people are stupid for eating at expensive meme restaurants.
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>>486629887
>yet I've been handed a vacation for posting it before.
lol
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>>486629753
>one of the best FTH spells in the entire game is locked behind 13 INT requirement and another boss melter is behind 23 INT requirement
>One of the best sorceries in the DLC requires 24 FTH and scales off INT entirely
From's balancing is so shit ass.
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>>486630029
It's both anon. It's both.

>>486630046
I know, their whole goal is to just invite themselves into the room and then turn to oldfags and say
>"WHO THE FUCK LET YOU IN HERE?!"
And kick us out.

>>486630074
Offtopic happens all the time. Post the wrong offtopic? Post slightly offensively but ontopic? Butthurt children mass report you to the retard tranny jannies.
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>>486630209
>Offtopic happens all the time
So do suicides. Consider it.
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>>486629475
2 weeks
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>>486630171
Yeah one sec I'm about to leave spot ppen
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>>486630024
Heh, I know right?

As long as you're sane enough, there's always a way out, as well as a means for improving your situation. Even if it sucks.

That guy doesn't have that.
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>>486630003
>>486630085
what the fuck do people mean when they say this? does it mean something like (for example) going from 50 to 51 str increases damage more than going from 20 to 21 str?
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>>486627668
There was in older versions of the game.
>Turtle meat is said to boost virility, but none in the Lands Between seem to have much appetite for it these days.
>In Lands Between [sic], the urge to reproduce has waned long ago.
People took this removed piece of lore to suggest the Erdtree handled reproduction but that's an overreach.
We explore a world of mad demigods, decrepit husks and recently arrived and soon to die Tarnished.
People don't fuck for pretty obvious reason.
And it still suggests they fucked before hand, i.e. before the Shattering.
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>>486630085
thanks bwo yes that is the term
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>>486630184
>you want to talk about how you think people are stupid for eating at expensive meme restaurants.
No, it was just a sfw webm of eating """"shit"""" with a dungeater joke that I posted because I told anon to eat shit.

>>486630260
You first.
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> Lately, I feel I'm on the precipice...
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>>486630198
>>one of the best FTH spells in the entire game is locked behind 13 INT requirement and another boss melter is behind 23 INT requirement
Neither of these are inherently FTH, the GO seal scales with INT and FTH evenly. You could just as easily argue they are INT with fucking FTH tax. They're neither.
>>One of the best sorceries in the DLC requires 24 FTH and scales off INT entirely
You're actually dumb as fuck. Spells scale with nothing, they go off of what your catalyst scales with. That one in particular working best with the ARC scaling staves, not the INT heavy ones.
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>AAAAIIIIIEEEEEE MY OFFTOPIC POST GOT DELETED WHEN SOME OTHER OFFTOPIC POST DIDNT THE CABAL IS OUT TO TARGET ME PERSONALLY AAAAAAAAA HELP ME JANNYNIGGER IM GOING INSANE
I wish you faggots had been around before the dlc if you wanted to see how shit this place can get when offtopic DOESNT get deleted
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>>486630260
Triggered the offtopic shitposter.
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>>486627082
I attempted it and it just got worse with time
Maybe I should give up and look up a preset I like.
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>>486630198
>>486630446
What are the name of these spells
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>>486630209
All it takes is one look at /v/ to know you’re right. No straight male would post those things or leave the board in that state.
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Young Tarnished do you wish to shed this thread?
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>>486630451
its probably the same dsg niggers trying to psyop again honestly
last few times they raided pre-dlc the "if you report posts you're a tranny" shilling happened too even as the thread got flooded with dsg injokes and namedrops
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>>486630451
I mean, that stuff is pretty much ponyposting. I remember when bronies used to pick everything, ANYTHING with horses and try to spin it to be about ponies. Even got some blokes claiming that Dead Space's devs were bronies because of an ingame location called Trixie's.
That faggot is the same obnoxious loser.
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Quality Weapon Scaling graph
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>>486630198
any requirements under 20 aren't real requirements. they're just minimums you don't have any real reason to be under if you're over SL100 (assuming it's relevant to your build)
>>486630305
vigor is an example of a stat that is extremely mid-loaded. Most of the levels from 25 to 50 grant over 20 HP per level. For an offensive comparison, that would be the equivalent of a weapon with a scaling co-efficient of 480, or equivalent to nearly 2.25x the threshold is for a weapon to have a "S" scaling.
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>>486630721
please save us uncle aldia
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Gonna share my lore theory. I think the putrecent knight is a corrupted version of whatever miquella's shadow protector was. I think the blind swordsman was malenia's shadow protector but died against the rot goddess in an attempt to cure malenia.
What are your thoughts?
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>>486631013
Anons are props on the threads of 4chan.
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>>486630840
its front loaded though
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>>486630840
why the fuck isn't it all the same until you hit the softcaps? who came up with this shit?

>>486630880
I know how you get more HP per point of vigor until the softcaps, but I didn't realize the effects of str/dex on weapon damage was similar
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can someone post cropped miquella porn so i can use as the OP
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RL 147 in DLC with my Grave Scythe buffed with BFB and Spinning Weapon skill
I'm erasing every boss, but i know it won't work for Radahn
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>>486631274
There isn't a single scaling in any FSW game that hasn't worked similarly.
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Crafting

>you can craft several consumables, status heals, throwing weapons, arrows, bombs, perfumes and spell tools to use
>it uses key items to cap the maximum bombs and perfumes, making the use of said bombs a tedious chore that you have to remember to use
>said system has dozens recipes to discover by exploration progress only, some permanently missable
>some ingredients appear in only one zone and can't be bought or acquired via conversion
>some ingredients have a finite number per playthrough and need long farming methods
>there's only a handful of ingredients that can be bought by unlocking vendor key items, some of them locked behind DLC
>the whole system can be largely ignored by the entire playthrough and is completely optional

I mean I like the idea of creating items on the fly to use depending on the situation
but they should have really made components easier to acquire by the endgame
how would you fix it?
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>>486631542
>girl miquella
gigabased
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>>486631737
He's lying.
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>>486631542
>no dick
trash
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>>486631274
Yep. Very much so.
Here's Heavy, Keen, and Occult by comparison.

Important side note here: By two handing, you still get a 1.5x bonus to your strength stat, even if your strength is at max level 99.
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>>486631723
crafting feels like something they included in ER because it's open world, and not because it's actually fun or interesting
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>>486631851
wow nice scaling
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>>486631774
HUWHAT?!?
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>>486631851
Heh, forgot image.
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Cutellier
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>>486628979
Marika was seduced by the serpent of disorder, and inadvertently betrayed the natural order of her world. Godfrey stoically takes on the duty and responsibility of stamping out disorder. Messmer was bitten by disorder, and was doomed to embody the serpent from his birth. Marika is the bridge between order and disorder, with her Elden Lords serving her in the name of order, toiling and fighting in endless wars in the name of order. Her children curse and disavow her for their doomed lives of disorder, and embody the very qualities their fathers must crush in the name of order. Long and hard, didst the Elden Lords fight to create children of order, but in the end, there was never any hope.
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CUTE
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>>486631570
>>486631851
>>486632086
my world is crumbling around me
also I didn't realize 20 was also a softcap
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>>486631723
I like crafting because we get a shit ton more item descriptions. Never actually used any items except on the furnace golems.
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>>486632110
>says he’s as weak as a kitten
Dude’s practically begging to be held down and raped in front of St.Trina.
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>>486631542
source?
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>>486632268
as I recall I believe that spellcasting catalysts are also custom-tuned in certain cases. For example, the recently-buffed Carian Sorcery Sword is quite bizarre.
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>>486632324
https://twitter.com/LiquidNekoSFW
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>>486631723
>bell bearings for common ingredients that are comically tedious to farm (I'm looking at you, mushrooms and herba)
Yes, I'm aware of the DLC
>make any crafting material that was associated with infinitely purchasable consumables in previous games infinitely purchasable
>more efficient farming spots for both common and uncommon ingredients
>increase the amount of crafting materials received from hand-placed items (wow, TWO root resin!)
>give co-op'ers increased item discovery in multiplayer, a nice passive incentive for playing multiplayer
>reward both co-op'ers and invaders with crafting materials for completing multiplayer sessions, depending on the area
>fix the fucking drop rate formula, it's honestly just awful if you look into it at all and will blackpill you into using CE
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>>486631723
Make sure I can buy all reagents. I'm looking at you string. Thank fuck they included a bell bearing for it in the DLC.

I'm not a fan of needing someone else to help me dupe stuff. I don't have friends that consistently play the game, that would help me with duplicating hard to farm reagents, or ones that are limited per playthrough.
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>>486632114
>Marika was seduced by the serpent of disorder
I really want to believe this theory
What serpent she did fuck tho?
No I'm not being a coomer and being 100% genuine, what serpent she did fuck to give birth to Messmer.
Can't be Rykard's, there's a body of a serpent somewhere in the shadow realm but thats about it.
Or it's another of a methaporical and esoterical fucking making Marika give birth to his son being completely alone?
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>Scadu avatar does the light explosion in my face
>forget that rolling is the answer to all of life's problems and just accept death
I hate that I only remember all attacks like this can just be iframed through after the fight because in the moment instinct takes over and you assume that rolling through something like that would be retarded
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>>486632568
>no dick
its over...
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Learned about the philosophy behind dark souls and now I can't play it without getting anxious. Gonna reinstall Elden Ring and get my fromsoft fix there.
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Thollier would've been better as a biohole instead of a cryptotranny
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>>486632704
Read both of my posts. The serpent is just a metaphor for disorder, like the gremlin in your car’s engine, but at world scale.
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>>486632887
I don't think Thiollier has any cryptocurrency
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check out this damage
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>>486633008
Trinacoin
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>>486632887
what are you even talking about you mentally ill buzzword yapper
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>IRL, normie marriages are similar to elite marriages but more toned down
>e.g. instead of a royal gala in a great wedding reception hall and a massive cake made by the palace kitchens, you rent a ballroom and order the cake from a bakery
>Carian marriages have the woman gift her man a magic sword
>At the end of her quest, Sellen gifts us a magic dagger (and offers to let us live with her)
Uhh
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FIRST W since the dlc
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he's perfect the way he is
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>>486633008
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>>486632596
"give co-op'ers increased item discovery in multiplayer, a nice passive incentive for playing multiplayer."

That's not the worst idea. Most of the things that you need to farm however are plant mats, which aren't influenced by item discovery. Or only spawn in each location once, and are limited per playthrough.

Rinse repeat coop summoning and resummoning isn't ideal, as it forces you to wait at loading screens.

But yeah, giving a small item discovery bonus is fine. Make coop worth your time maybe, even if you don't get to kill a boss. The great rune system kind of sucks right? Rune fragments are whatever.
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>>486633520
>miquella fanboy
based
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>Have to invade 3 times to get to Mohg
>Hear about the gank spank nightmare that invaders go through
>All 3 of my invasions host immediately dies offscreen as I spawn in
Is this the normal invasion experience?
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>>486633520
>Nagakiba
Man what a shitty weapon choice for a death knight cosplay.
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2/4
is it joever?
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>>486633739
In a way
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>>486633771
it's not a cosplay
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>>486633807
3/4 here
requeue
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>>486628584
>>486630171
3/4
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>>486633934
>Full death knight set with 2x gravel stone seals and all the dragon cult incants
>Not a cosplay
Sure bud.
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Joining
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Str/fai or str/arc for the DLC?
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Jeening
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>>486634242
str/arc
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>>486633807
looks like it ggs
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>>486634058
the penis flesh...
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theres a match going
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>>486632114
To summarize the rumination: The Elden Lord is cursed to toil and fight endlessly for Marika’s order. They can never cease to wage war for this perfect order, lest chaos and disorder creep back into the world, forcing Marika to banish and replace them. Marika is cursed with bearing a myriad offspring who embody disorder and chaos, and longs for a child who embodies order. Marika’s children are cursed with disorders, and must live lives of shadow, in the sewers, in far away places, and most importantly, in the long shadow of the Elden Lord.
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>>486634297
We're in a 4-man right now
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>>486633934
Is this a spellbound leak?
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>no +1 version of silver or gold scarabs
>no armor set that increases discovery or rune gain
>new discovery shell consumable item is barely 20% than the silver chicken foot, which is barely 10% better on a non multiplicative formula that caps on 10.000 points of discovery
>they do not stack

I hate it so fucking much, and this happens on the same game with some items with 0.5% drop chance.
you just forced my hand Miyazaki, I just HAVE to mule hacked items, this shit is unbearable
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>>486634287
Any benefits of going arc over faith? Only thing I can think of is status effects.
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>>486634410
whats stopping an elden lord from just killing that retarded bitch and becoming queen elden lord
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>>486634578
>I just HAVE to mule hacked items, this shit is unbearable
Why the fuck are you muling hacked items if you have no qualms about hacking them in?
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retard to retard communication
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Crazy that some loreheads still think Messmer and Melina are the oldest
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>>486634718
savefile mule is better than risking it with cheat engine
I already got banned once
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>>486634578
Looking into the item discovery formula at all will instantly convince anyone to use CE.

There really needed to be a gold / silver physick tear, as well.
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>>486634870
i hate this completely unsubstantiated meme that melina is anything other than a damn spirit conjured by marika
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>>486634745
Fuck is that hammer
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I think we're 5/4?
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>>486635017
taylew's ruined forge
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>>486635069
yes
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>>486634986
>Messmer, much like his younger sister, bore a vision of fire.
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>>486634602
It just takes a lord who is willing. The player character can do exactly that in 3/6 endings. You can argue that all of the endings are technically that concept. The bigger mystery is why Godfrey and Radagon were unwilling to do what had to be done. Were they simps? Were they huffing copium? I meed to ruminate on it a little more.
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Who the fuck is Taylew?
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>>486634581
Ancient Meteoric Greatsword. Sexy piece of otherwordly rock.

You don't need that much ARC and it's scaling is shit, anyway.
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>>486634986
Anon she is absolutely Messmer's sister.

Messmer's Kindling:
>Messmer, much like his younger sister, bore a vision of fire.
Enia's dialogue when asking how to burn the tree:
>For the flame to burn the Erdtree, a sacrifice is needed. Of one who envisions the flame.
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If Melina is a demigod why is she normal human sized?
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that's it for me today, ggs
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ZANZIBERUTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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that's it for me fellas
GGs all around
>>486634986
fucking RETARD play the game
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>>486635491
Because great runes cause you to grow and mutate and she doesn't have one.
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>>486635229
>>486635389
she's the Gloam Eyed Queen, how can she be Messmer's sister?
Fucking retards
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obviously milicent is messmer's sister
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>>486635630
We have actual evidence she's Messmer's sister. Your only evidence she's the GEQ is retarded headcanon because her eye is a funny color. You lost.
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3/4...
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>>486635569
speaking of unsubstantiated memes
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>>486635748
>>486635748

BLESSSSS YOUUUUUUUU
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>>486628769
just look up chainsaw tutorial on youtube, make sure to close the menu and hold L2 on reaction to the chainsaw coming out instead of doing it every attempt, the dumb dumbs on youtube wont tell you that
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>>486634578
None of the DLC items have awful drop rates. If you hadn’t farmed the ones in the base game before now you weren’t going to do it anyway.
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>>486635821
Radahn is larger in the base game than the DLC. That alone is proof that great runes make you grow.
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>>486635290
Play the game, you literally get his ashes.
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>>486635842
was this datamined?
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>>486634581
Putrescent Cleaver, Meteoric Sword, Flowerstone Gavel, Marais Executioner Sword.
STR/ARC has some of the best STR-related sombers.
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>>486636356
>Flowerstone Gavel
>Putrescent Clever
>good
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>486636643
>Putrescent Clever
>bad
are you on crack
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>>486635897
correlation is not causation
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>>486623869
That's cool about thorns, I was just about to make a thorn sorcery build, too.
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>>486624481
There is no Renalla. Just Rellana and Rennala
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Is bestial sling still worth slotting in pvp or has it been nerfed so much I should just take it off?



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