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>Previous
https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/486613681#top
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MIYAZAKI
MAKE ANOTHER ELDEN RING DLC
AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>2.5k on a curved sword talisman, deflecting hardtear, spear talisman guard counter
I'm not even sure I hit for counter damage. I need to test this more.
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Crying myself to sleep because the DLC didn't align with my precious headcanon (day 27 out of ???)
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This game's bosses truly fall apart once you strain the system even a bit.
Just give me fucking BB.
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did they fix Knight Assassin and Dread name censors?
I know in console they did.
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YOOOOO INVASIONS ARE FIRE ONG
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I just became aware that some people use a curved sword and a shield instead of dual wielding curved swords. What's the appeal?
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>>486635996
Oh this is with Carian Thrusting Shield btw.
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Never forget what they took from you
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>>486636032
That's me.
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>>486636241
Never forget that you don't even know the lore of the game you apparently care so much about
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Extremely important Nepheli post coming through.
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RANNI CUTE
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>no map so have to memorize where I've been and how to get where in this fort
>already do even with a map
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Miquella tummy status?
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>>486636487
Miquella is such a freak holy shit
Imagine if that's how he used to heal Malenia before he made unalloyed gold hahaha
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This game and now expansion has severe and pervading quality control problems that ostensibly seem to come from too much quantity attempts
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>reading fics for some godawful reason
>ranni shows up
>author makes zero attempt at having her talk like she does in game
>close tab
>complain about it in /erg/
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>>486636665
And yet it's still better than any other Souls title.
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>>486636503
>Seluvis mistakes the Dung Eater for Nepheli when you feed him the potion.

How do you even do that!
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>>486636667
Nothing wrong with that. My standards have grown since reading sloppa back in middle school nearly two decades ago
>Poor grammar
Nope
>Bizarre/dogshit formatting
Nope
>Doesn't even make an effort for characters to speak in-character
Nope

This automatically filters out something like 90%-95% of all fanfics but afterwards I can start sifting through the tolerable ones to find the genuinely good stuff
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>>486636798
WRONG!!
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>>486636970
giga based
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>>486636665
And yet what >>486636798 said
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>>486636970
Slop
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>>486636585
unraspberried
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someone PLEASE tell me how to rollcatch with sorceries

I set up multiple charged magic glintblades, put up carian phalanx, charge a shard spiral, then fire stars of ruin and run in with carian slicer and they STILL just rollspam and avoid every single projectile
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>Quality builds exist
>Quantity builds don't
?
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im scared to fight midra
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>>486637230
That's when you put 20 in every stat
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>>486637227
I like to combo Ancient Death Rancor with Vortex of Prutrescence.
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The Godskin Duo's zippy drinking punish is so fucking shameless, the microsecond you press that item button, one of those two fuckers is immediately throwing a fireball
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>>486637419
It's easy as fuck to dodge, who cares? That's the least of the problems with that fucking fight.
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>>486637227
You're supposed to use your sorceries as distraction to then rollcatch with Troonveil.
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>>486637227
>dudes who just let themselves get hit by Cannon of Haima from around a corner
Are they just not looking at you or something? I swear some players have the situational awareness of a goldfish.
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>>486637227
>>486637362
I also find Spectral Rings -> Ancient Death Rancor -> Repeat is a solid hard to dodge combo.

Sorry bud. The answers are INT/FAI chad shit.
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>Find cute Miquella and Malenia fanart
>Check artist's profile
>Doesn't like the DLC lore
It's over...
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I'm bored. I don't want to PvP and while I normally love making new builds, there's no other new weapons I enjoy than the builds I've already made. Fuck.
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>>486637630
>offhand gugs
wow that nigger was a real faggot
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>>486637715
Cute art, mind linking the source please
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>>486637743
make a boss-specific cooper
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Someone tell me a valid reason for why doing a fucking roll into the ground would be enough to dodge a massive area of effect light explosion
Because I want to fucking know
I need to fucking know
AOEs should not be dodged with fucking iframes fuck I hate this game's shit.
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>invades pvpers just having fun
ugh this is so cancer
>hard swaps to his 7th copy of a weapon for a different ash
these guys are such scrubs man
>pops cheated consumable
this game is so trash man
>runs away for 20 minutes just to roll catch a first time pvper to death
im going to make my own souls pvp game
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>>486637810
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/13211589
https://x.com/Chene95277187
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>>486637201
no, this can't be...
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Can two very different metal tones in the same fit ever work?
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What does his stat spread look like?
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>>486637630
>off-hand UGS
>that fucking damage on 1H beast claws
what the heck
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>>486637630
Have you tried using Call of Tibia?
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>>486637869
I chainsaw for to farm salt from troons like you
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>>486637781
I dunno, his name was soulful and his playstyle felt like a Farron Watchdog breakdance so I thought it was soulful overall
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I feel the urge to dual wield the Meteoric Sword and the Putrescent Cleaver.
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>>486637362
>>486637630
I'm roleplaying as Sellen and can't use anything that isn't glintstone, carian, or primeval

I kinda have to crutch on miriam + gavel a lot

>>486637617
people that can reliably roll cannon are the worst, it's so annoying to hit them in the face with it but they still roll it

also is it just me or does stars of ruin do absolutely no damage? i have a +6 staff and 43 int and it does 200 damage at best
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>>486637869
jeenine asmr
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>>486637996
Yeah it's realy nito to drop one in a doorway to deny it for a sec. It's also decent as an answer to people casting big dick incants and shit because rather than running UP to the guy doing Ekzyke breath, you just toss a skull and let the skelly knock him out of it.

As soon as I get a fun clip with one I'll share it.

>>486638170
That's rough. Try Miriam into Piercer? That's probably hard to handle no matter what.
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>>486637869
Why does hardswapping make people seethe so hard? You're 3v1ing him. Just kill him lol.
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>>486638018
>for to farm
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>>486637992
>1 handed UGS with a wacky slide all over the place moveset
He's farronpilled.
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>>486638239
i'll try piercer but the non aoe nature of it makes me hesitate against multiple people
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>>486637869
>im going to make my own souls pvp game
decided to give jee a second (third? fourth?) chance and tuned in to this. immediately closed the stream out of secondhand embarrassment. good luck to him.
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>>486637869
could you ask for permission next time you copy and paste my shitty post? thanks ASSHOLE
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>>486637990
>shitting up both generals
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>>486637961
Its fine when you're a phantom but yeah, unfortunately thats gonna look weird 95% of the time. I did find a good combo recently though.

>Malenias Helm
>Drake Knight Torso
>Malenias Gauntlets
>Leyndell Knight Greaves

looks great together. dont have a screenshot but dude trust me
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>>486638419
>shitting up
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>>486638347
First off the hitbox isn't THAT bad and secondly Adula/Carian GS aren't bad either if you're high cast speed.

You've set yourself a tough challenge bud. Maybe academy pots rope pots could be good for discouraging chasers?
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>>486638321
I unironically love the Abyss Watchers fight, I just wish their phase 2 wasn't as annoying with ultra weapons cuz you gotta play pretty passively due to their nonstop swinging, they're too early in the game (at least on NG) to unga bunga poisetank
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>>486638075
That's retarded. They aren't the same weapon class and are both slow sweeping/slashing weapons. It's going to suck balls.
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>>486637990
>END/VIG
>lvl 90
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>>486638390
I really like this post. May I save it?
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>>486638657
I'm also a huge Abyss Watcher fight. Aesthetically, their lore, are some of my favorite in DS3 and I even love the Farron Greatsword. Was really hoping something like it would appear in this DLC. But I don't find them hard, never did. They have no poise and they barely have any HP. The fight always ends so fast for me. I fucking wish they were harder.
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>>486638018
we know, steelovsky
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>>486638896
They're not hard, they just don't give you a lot of openings to attack with slower weapons, even weapons like hammers or maces, when they enter phase 2, and they can stunlock you for whole combos if you attack them while they're hyper armoring.
This conversation also reminded me of how generous DS3 was in that no poise meant you got 2 free hits instead of ER's one (1) hit lol
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Farming for gear in this game fucking sucks. Why does Fromsoft continue this bullshit of low drop rates.
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>>486637313
He's mid
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>>486639181
gooning
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I really want to do an INT/FTH build but we only have *checks notes* uh, TWO INT/FTH weapons and both are boring. This sucks.
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>>486639304
just use something at base reqs as utility. You don't have to have a special nuke L2 when you have all those spells.
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>>486639181
Also another thing. It's retarded to have limited +10 & +25 stones per playthrough. Fromsoft can be really forward thinking but at other times they're take steps backwards.
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>Turns on tongue in Lennes Rise
>goes afk
Easy redcel seethe farming lol
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>>486639356
But I want an L2 nuke AND all those spells. My INT/DEX build and my DEX/FTH/ARC build have both, INT/FTH should too.
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>>486637961
kek chicken head
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>>486639121
I have never been stunlocked by the abyss watchers ever. Usually if I die its the fire afterimage hitting me just barely or something. Yeah DS3 and ER are balanced so differently, especially because of the old two hit guarantee thing
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>>486636241
That was never going to happen
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>>486639304
the colossal weapon you get from metry is int/fth too
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>>486639461
Then use an AoW stick like Poker and move on?
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Second expansion waiting room
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>>486639518
No it isn't, the ash on that scales purely with FTH.
>>486639528
Nah.
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>>486637990
>Lv 171 "buiild"
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>>486638885
of course friend :)
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>>486639610
What and Renalla's shit and SoNaF is bad too? I agree the selection is poor but you also get EVERY SPELL AND INCANT IN THE GAME except for some ARC ones.
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>>486636241
damn how long are people going to seethe about godwyn
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>>486638321
I was so disappointed to learn that there is no AoW like the Farron Greatsword in elden ring. Funnest weapon in the entire series by far.
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Is SL200 the place to be at the end of the DLC for max multiplayer?
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>>486639419
that spot has been solved, there are so many better spots. you're gonna come back to a bloodstain with 12 runes on it
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>>486639716
No, Rellana's is shit but the SoNaF is just boring. Mostly because I used it for my first run back at launch, I have no interest in ever touching it again. Not because of the nerf mind you, I know it's still a solid weapon, solely because I'm burnt out on it.
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>>486636241
Kino... god dammit Mike...
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>>486639776
Same here. I would have preferred a new paired weapon too, with unique L1s like Farron GS. I just cope by using lions claw, and savage lions claw.
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>>486639419
>>486639841
Just taunt and then activate the dragon communion altar.
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>>486640056
What does activating the dragon communion altar do?
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>>486639486
I remember that if you got hit by their spinny tornado swings, you were going to get hit by at least one other. But it's been years since I last fought them. You just had to be passive with them cuz they had no poise until they did because a lot of their swings had hyper armor. I should replay DS3 again, ER bosses always leave a sour taste in my mouth. I'll probably think DS3 will be super honest and easy in comparison kek.
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>>486640134
While you're in the menu nothing can hurt you. Invaders will walk up to you, attack, discover you can't be touched, and seethe like never before.
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>>486638032
what are the doing to him?
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>>486640056
>>486640230
nobody tell him
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>launch game
>don't play game
>"farm seethe"
is this some kind of new mental illness?
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>>486639832
if you're playing seamless definitely
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This guy is probably the best around when it comes to pure number crunching, comparing, and hit box analyzing without any added bullshit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDL7cMAFSfs&ab_channel=Chrightt
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>>486640345
Tell me what? Did they patch it? I don't use these exploits, I have no need for runes. I'm just aware of it and passed it on.
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How are twinblades in general as a weapon class? I like weapons that are fast but also have good poise damage with charged heavies, thinking twinblades may be the ideal weapon for me but I haven't messed with them much.
Them or SS with square off I'm thinking.
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Is bestial sling worth keeping slotted for pvp or has it been nerfed into the ground so much that beast claw is just better?
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>>486640134
>>486640056
The one in caelid or the dlc?
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>>486640708
The Caelid one.
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>>486640617
still good
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>>486640617
>>486640764
Thanks looks like the shotgun never dies
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>>486640208
Honestly I feel like its the opposite, playing aggressive against the watchers actually works compared to something like dancer or ocerios. I love DS3 and honestly Im happy to shelve the game, ER is great and in fact much better than I thought it would be.
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>>486640728
Thanks for the tip
Time to farm redcel tears
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>>486640801
*sip*
just don't make em like this anymore
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>star lined sword AOW is good but takes too long to land the full combo
>rellana's twin swords are garbage
>moonveil is still a one trick pony and not even that good these days
DEX/INT bros? How are we coping?
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>>486640230
thats hilarious
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>>486640997
Godskin stitcher with carian sovereignty
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>>486639841
>solved
Explain
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I have a theory. Empyreans can be born male or female. Empyreans birth have to be special in some way. Ranni is an empyrean yet neither of her siblings are. There's 4 reasons why I can think her birth was special
1. Ranni is the eldest kid, rykard is the middle, radahn is the youngest. Rannis kid represented the combining of the moon and gold, night and flame, the mages and clerics, the ice and fire. Thus she's an empyrean
2. She's the middle child radahn is the eldest, rykard is the youngest, she was conceived right after radagon fused with/fused back into marika meaning she's the daughter of marika, radagon, and rennala having three parents making her birth special being the first known character with 3 parents
3. She's the second born and daughter of marika and rennala somehow, meaning she has two mothers and thus her birth is special
4. The greater will(miyazaki) wanted its favorite little guy, the tarnished, to have two options for wives not just one, so ranni was born an empyrean through its will or the fingers specifically knowing what she'd do just so the player tarnished could choose between a golden milf and blue doll for wives because the greater will likes us. It also reverts time to a point after we die, it's why boss phase transitions replay, even ones where they maim themselves, we're the greater wills favorite character it has no interest in talking with anyone it just has its cosmic popcorn watching things unfold.
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>>486640553
i love creatures like you that don't read patch notes and just spread misinfo. when people try to do some cheese shit that doesn't work and then they go into panic mode, that shit makes my dick ROCK HARD
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frog farming is equally retarded to afk farming
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>>486641127
This is pretty fun actually
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>>486638321
That setup with a rakshasa katana in the offhand instead of a Greatsword might actually be pretty good.
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>>486637617
>people in the begining area don't recognize a spell they've never seen before by the cue of the sorcerer's staff turning blue
fucking idiots am I rite guys I would've crushed that invader
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>>486640447
>launch game
>go AFK
>post on erg
Peak performance
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>Invaded by some dude
>Immediately spams glintstones from far away (nothing hits)
>Dies from 2 R1s from a phantom
?
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>>486636112
arab footman roleplay I guess
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>Wanted to make a Quality build using this with Quality infusion on the great katana
>Entire idea was to cast bloodflame blade on it for 95 total bleed, really solid AR, and inherent fire damage for frostbite resets on the ghostflame triggers
>Plus a bloodflame weapon generating ghostflame looks like pure sex
>The ash is garbage though
>Like complete garbage
>Like cast it 5 times on a stationary target to trigger frostbite once garbage
>Also does 1/10 the damage of Ghostflame Ignition
>Using cold infusion instead doesn't boost any of this a noticeable amount either
WHY DO THEY HATE FUN. WHY EVEN MAKE THIS ASH? IT'S WORTHLESS.
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>>486641532
that was me fuck you fucking ganking piece of shit
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>>486641210
>The greater will(miyazaki) wanted its favorite little guy, the tarnished, to have two options for wives not just one, so ranni was born an empyrean through its will or the fingers specifically knowing what she'd do just so the player tarnished could choose between a golden milf and blue doll for wives because the greater will likes us. It also reverts time to a point after we die, it's why boss phase transitions replay, even ones where they maim themselves, we're the greater wills favorite character it has no interest in talking with anyone it just has its cosmic popcorn watching things unfold.

This is now my headcanon, the greater will is just a passive observer watching all of the world's its created, it chooses to empower a few retards in specific ways to see what happens. It chose us for no reason beyond "I like the cut of your jib" which is the same reason torrent chose us.
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>>486641195
nobody tell him
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>>486559505
>Can't buff any of them
Standard clayman's with scholar's armament is the poorman's raw dragonslayer axe with lightning blade.
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>>486640553
keep spreading the good word my friend
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>>486641638
Frostbite resets are overrated in the extreme. Like massively. Like SO overrated. Frostbite's dmg negation reduction >>> your stupid proc resets.
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>Malenia's rune is now DLC only
>I'm halfway through the DLC and I haven't used it yet because I forgot, even though it would synergise really well with my build
they need to make runes carry over into ng+
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>>486641717
NOT my fault Michael Zaki made it so only hosts with spirits get invaded, you're supposed to be ready for the gank blender.
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>>486641930
>Malenia's rune is now DLC only
what do you mean?
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>>486641532
>>486641717
>>486641974
What if I summoned you both as reds and you spitroasted my type b
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>>486641891
I don't care, did you even read the fucking post? Do you think I believe this would be good or meta? No you dumb autistic bitch. I was just trying to have fun. You know, that thing you've never done?
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>>486636112
I was thinking about making a build that uses the Wing of Astel with a Carian Thrusting Shield in the offhand.
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>>486642072
What I mean is you can only use the rune to fight the DLC rather than, uh... just radagon I guess if you for some reason did malenia first.
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>>486642218
It's not that fun. It's overrated and generally bad especially because of the hoops you're jumping through for it.

I too wish that AoW was better. But frost reset builds aint it.
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>>486641638
I think it's another case of the intern forgetting to add scaling. They'll fix it, surely.
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>>486642345
>It's not that fun.
Fun is subjective you nigger.
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>>486642298
I do malenia before fire giant as it makes little sense for the tarnished to be telephoned to faram azula and go "hmm let's just leave I wonder what this dial does" after fire giant it seems like a narrative straight shot to the end. So I do the haligtree then dlc then fire giant and the rest
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>>486642298
But that’s impossible, I do Malenia as the first boss of every run.
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>>486641638
>>486642218
I sympathize, but there are plenty of fun things in the game that are bad
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>>486642392
Sorry no. Frostbite resets are like...The definition of midwit shit.

Just go full bleed or full frost. Or just Frost infuse a katana and use RoB with it and feel really mediocre with less hoops to earn the feeling.
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Shit that should be part of your default character at all times:
>Deflecting Hard Tear
>Blue Dew Talisman
>Stance Ashes of War
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>>486640908
Dancer is super easy to be aggressive with, you slap her ass and mash B whenever she twitches. Oceiros is gatekept behind a 100% physical block shield, if you have one you are allowed to have fun and if you don't got one just equip it it's not worth it.
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>>486642483
This is correct. Gideon gives you a spell if you beat Malenia and talk to him before killing Maliketh.
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>>486642365
What's with Fromsoft mismanaging projects and haphazardly making things up or breaking things or changing things days before releasing it's flagrant now by Elden Ring
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Motherfuckers mad that there is another butcher knife as if it took a slot of something else… how retarded do you have to be to think this way? Instead of just thinking that they had a “funny” idea of making another copy cuz it fits the “““lore””” why do you torture yourself with shit thinking?
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>>486642551
Death's Poker with fire damage procs frostbite resets so fast it out DPS's bleed. If this ash did the same, frostbite resets would be a real build. I'm NTA, but you're being a twat.
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Is the general theory that Mohg and Morgott sealed the three fingers away together during their time in the sewers? There’s a spirit of Mohg guarding it, and then Morgott’s own seal beyond that so it makes sense to me.
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>>486636112
Reminds me of myrmidons from fe echoes and of the carthus swordsmen from ds3. I like the aesthetic of these nimble fast swordsmen with a curved sword and a shield.
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>>486640528
True. I sort of hate the state of the information / content creation scene for Elden Ring, but people like Chrightt and the people who deliberately host resources off of Fextra's gay fucking site make it much better.
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Hello /erg/, I need your help. I am trying to powerstance beastman's curved swords and need a good outfit to match. Please help me devise something nice with the following specifics
>The headpiece must be either Royal Remains or Death Knight helm
>It must have at least 51 poise without Bull Goat Talisman
Thank you greatly. I really like the second pic but the gauntlets don't match and I have no better way to reach 51 poise.
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>>486642654
>Oceiros is gatekept behind a 100% physical block shield
what are you talking about
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>>486642551
>Sorry no.
You are genuinely autistic and still conflating "good" and "fun". Fun is literally subjective, just because you don't enjoy something or something isn't good doesn't mean someone else won't enjoy it. I'm not going to reply to you anymore, seek help.
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>>486642682
No. None of that is true. Right down to Ghostflame ignition doing fire damage lmao
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>>486639350
I cant take it anymore
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>>486640563
The charged heavies are quite slow, they're blenders that proc multi-hit and apply statuses quickly.
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>>486642674
The final boss weapons being just copypasted swords from the basegame is insane though.
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>>486642845
Can't take what
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>>486642523
It ain't even bad, bad would imply it could be used. This ash is literally unusable.
>>486642365
Here's hoping. It definitely feels like someone fucked up coding it. There's no way it's working properly. I wonder if it's something unique to the Poker's version they fucked up when carrying the ash over to this.
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>>486642832
Frostbite resets are fake and gay and whining about failing to execute a fake and gay build is contemptible. Cope.
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>>486641398
Nigger there is ample opportunity to see the sorcerer is charging something big and prepare yourself to roll out the way of whatever is about to come out.
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>>486642845
You need it don’t you? The feeling of Messmer’s snakes rubbing against your prostate, making you cum against your will over and over.
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>>486642736
>i have no creativity please make me a pretty meta build (I already looked up my stats)
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>>486642826
Oceiros' charge attack is ridiculously hard to dodge but it's pure physical damage and he can't follow it up with something else, if you block it with any 100% physical block shield the attack is negated and the worst that happens is you get guard broken, but since the charge has no follow up that doesn't matter. There's nothing special about the fight except that one move which is bullshit. Hold up a shield and keep it held up unless you are attacking and he crumples like paper.
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>>486642669
small indie company
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games infested with too many skyrim wow players who just want to ride around on the horse
for 30 hours collecting sword of night and flames and estus before engaging with a single enemy
they have the nerve to complain about balance like lol lamo
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>>486642845
we're all gonna die alone, anon
either get over it or start grinding so you can donate to AI research in the hopes of a robot girlfriend when you're 60
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>>486643007
Yes. Thank you.
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>>486642839
I never claimed it did fire damage. Learn to read you ESL. I'm saying if you ADD fire damage to the mix, it procs frostbite enough to out-DPS bleed. Cast something like Rykard's Rancor before using Ghostflame Ignition or spam Catch Flame afterwards and you'll see what I mean. It's still not good because in the end you're just abusing the status and none of this mixes well on a proper build though. If this ash had the frost build-up of Ignition though? It'd make for a real build, especially considering you could then add bleed to the mix too.
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>Make Fire Knight Shortsword/Greatsword cold infused
>The innate fire damage doesn't reset the frostbite
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I read up on a jp theory that radahn has a vagina. It's based on some item descriptions and lines from freyja/miquella in jp hinting that he either has a vagina or is a ftm transgender
How do you all feel about this? This dlc feels like a humiliation ritual for radahn fans.
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>redcel tears still coming
>nobody has killed me yet
KEK
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>>486637715
Malenia was discarded in the dlc
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>Summoned by a dude with obviously cheated DLC items in stormveil
I'm tired boss
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took me around 3 hours to beat ds3 and around 4:30 hours to kill all bosses
how quick it is in elden ring? last time i tried it i got 12 hours with everything before mountaintops done
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>>486643160
>I never claimed it did fire damage
Then you don't fucking know what a frostbite reset is and are even lower on the totempole than mr. ghostflame AoW.
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The Messmer fight is a huge "fuck you" to mages...
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>>486642982
wow he's right you do have autism
>>486643228
been that way since launch lil bro, weapons that have both fire and magic damage don't reset frostbite
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>>486643301
1 hour 1 minute for an all remembrances run apparently
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>>486641638
I'd use the shit out of it on my death knight (cold spooky ghosts death knight, not zappy zap lightning death knight) build if it were any good, just so I could use it on a weapon better than the poker. I'd like to give it a go with the zweihander.
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>>486643282
>invading at level 40 while leveling a new character
>already dealing with the host's overleveled password phantom in DLC gear
>blue summoned
>wearing Leda's armor
>spams discus hurl and Leda's light greatsword L2
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>>486643302
Holy shit I called you an ESL as a joke but you're actually an ESL aren't you? You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. Using Rykard's Rancor or Catch Flame in tandem with Ghostflame Ignition 100% resets frostbite.
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>>486643282
i used to do this to fight reds and most yellows were awful
also too many people who want to straight up delete godrick for you with some instableed helicopter type shit
id just close out the game every time
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I want to inseminate a Messmeryume
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I was surprised at all the apparent complaints about the difficulty, I’ve never played a souls game and am borderline retarded and the only boss I couldn’t beat in under 50 tries was Radahn. Maybe smart people are used to getting things right in the first few tries?
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Looking back, DS2 and DS3 had the best balance of shields vs rolling. Rolling was obviously powerful but they had learned to add attacks that were very hard to roll and should be blocked, but at the same time shields weren't good enough at blocking to be a "dude turn your brain off" button. You should always have a shield out to block the cheeky cunt stray hits enemies would constantly throw at you, so you'd be clear to dodge whatever came next. As opposed to in ER where they just turned all the bosses into x3 speedup DS3 mods because they wanted you to stack blocking buffs/equipment to facetank everything and/or summon the mimic to draw aggro if you were rollslopping it. Just seems like a way sloppier balance philosophy overall.
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>>486643657
Anon most normies start to complain after like ~5 deaths.
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>summon a random
>turn on tongue to deliberately provide 2v2s
>swift slash red points down on me while my summon is getting their ass beat by the other guy
you're welcome
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>>486643657
too many skyrim wow dad gamers who are allergic to the earlier games
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>>486643657
50 tries is a fuckton of tries you mouthbreather

actually this is just bait, isn't it
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>>486643338
>The Messmer fight is a huge "fuck you" to shitters...
ftfy
t. mage with hitless Mesmer, working on hitless Radahn
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>>486643278
>I abandon here my 2.5m tall cowtit sister
What did he mean by that
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>>486643802
>cowtit
>Malenia
anon....
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>>486643489
I'm drunk

But yes apparently you do grasp frostbite resets.
>IF YOU CAN RESET IGNITION IT'S GOOD
You can get equal superior results without setting up a bunch of nonsense. Frostbite resets are dogshit.
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I can't deal with all these redditors citing the nonexistent Hornsent children as a reason I should feel bad about them losing to Messmer.

Pro Tip: If your argument hinges of assumptions and fanfiction, it's not very good.
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>>486643657
We didn't gatekeep hard enough.
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>>486643763
so what
these are the same retards who will smash their head on margit level 9 for 9 hours. they can handle it
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>>486643282
How about fuck you kid, there's reason a weapon as generic and low-req as a Great Katana should be gatekept behind an SL150 area. I'm using Glorious Merchant to buy it in Limgrave, around where you get the Zwei.
Similarly, you should get equipment like the Carian Thrusting Shield in Raya Lucaria. Bullshit that you have to wait for the game to be 99% over before you can access these weapons. Fuck you.
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>>486643768
How can you cast anything when he can travel damn near the whole arena in an instant?
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>>486637961
Man, imagine if we had a system that subtly averages out metal tones on armor you wear, would solve so many problems...
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So you know how dual wielding lowers your status like bleed or poison build up? If a weapon is paired will they also get cucked or is the status buld up it higher than dual wielding?
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>>486643847
what
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>>486643282
>>486643979
>there are people who defend weapons like Burial Blade or Kos Parasite being basically NG+ only
>in anno domini MMXXIV
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>>486643860
All I'm saying is Ghostflame Ignition procs frostbite so fast that pairing it with fire outdamages bleed, no more no less. It's just too clunky to do with what we have now. If this ash worked like Ghostflame Ignition so you could put it on a weapon with fire damage like that anon was trying, it would be a real viable build, especially with bleed added in too. I didn't say it'd be broken or top tier, just a fine build. I get you're drunk but please try to be less retarded.
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>fire gets an infusable colossal, heavy thrusting sword and a dagger
>holy gets am infusable greathammer and a twinblade
>lightning gets jack shit
not fair bros... I want my points in fth to matter
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>>486643763
>50 tries is a fuckton of tries
Yes??? I said I was retarded. The hippo and pre-patch Gaius were the hardest because I don’t know when to dodge them.
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>>486643657
>under 50 tries
Dude...thats not praise worthy
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>>486644097
Her tits are pretty small proportionately speaking. What she does have is an absolutely juicy A5 wagyu steak of a rump that's literally designed to be motorboated
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>>486644030
i imagine it's a mage with night comet
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>>486644138
>so fast that pairing it with fire outdamages bleed
That's a nonsense setup that relies on theorycraft punching bags or RNG AI.

Really I'm just mad at people who reset my frostbites when I'm about to start dropping my big dmg.
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Are there any better weapons for a poison build than the occult venomous fang with poison blooms twice AoW + poisoned hand in the off-hand?
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>>486644176
Lightning gets to be the most powerful element in the game you whiny cunt.
>I want my points in fth to matter
Then cast electrify armament on a weapon with FTH scaling like the treespear or those fire swords you mentioned.
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>>486644176
Lightning gets
>one of the best spells in the DLC
>an armor set that gives 8% damage to most lightning-related stuff
>blinkbolt twinaxes
>blinkbolt greataxe (sex)
>blinkbolt ash of war
>the funny hammer
Stop fucking whining
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>>486644368
what funny hammer?
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>>486643802
Not joking, there's cut content people found in the dlc. One is Radahn's introducing himself essentially going "hey its me goku!" And miquella telling you he wanted you to side with him and marry his sister. The empyrean twins were just trying to find eachother their perfect spouses, he wanted you to bang his sister after he cured her and they fucking cut it alongside the ending where you actually side with him and radahn getting spoken dialog for once. I hate memehacki so fucking much
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>>486644119
Those are at least the weapons you get as a reward for killing the final fucking boss. Generic weapons like the thrusting shields? No such excuse. Fromsoft learned this lesson in BB and DS3, both of which let you into the DLC zones extremely early so you could pick up the loot before your playthrough was over. They just unlearned that in ER. Ok so Mohg has to be dead for Miquella's master plan to work. Literally just gold fog gate the last area and add a shadow realm entrance through a painter's painting or some shit.
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>>486643679
Every game has a "shitter" strategy that allows normies access to the hardest content. in Elden Ring it happens to be shields, but people who have been rollslopping since the game released haven't had any issues going through the DLC. People overestimate the amount of effort required to learn a boss's moveset and medium roll through it.

>>486644030
You need to change the way you think about being a Mage. Don't think of it as a playstyle that spams projectiles at range and then plays defensively when the enemy closes the distance, that just means you'll be on the defensive the entire fight when they can always be right next to you. Play mage the exact same way you play any other playstyle; stay close, dodge attacks, cast during openings. If no hitters can find windows for fully charged R2s, you can find windows for a fully charged comet, you just need to be right next to them rather than far away, so stop being a fucking coward and put Carian Slicer and Swift Shard on your spell bar. Comet is not your primary damage source, it's a punish for damage windows. Slicer and Swift Shard are what you use inbetween attacks and during tighter windows.
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>>486644307
>Then cast electrify armament on a weapon with FTH scaling like the treespear or those fire swords you mentioned.
damn this sounds like a great fuckin idea, you got my gears turning anon
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>>486644471
>miquella telling you he wanted you to side with him and marry his sister. The empyrean twins were just trying to find eachother their perfect spouses, he wanted you to bang his sister after he cured her and they fucking cut it alongside the ending where you actually side with him
You're lying. I don't believe you. Post proofs.
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>go grab something to eat
>redsissy hate mail keeps coming
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>>486644030
NTA, but I also beat Messmer as a mage in under 10 tries (not hitless though). Just get some dex/radagon icon and use faster spells. Shift your gear around a bit, don't just stick to one cookie cutter setup and think it'll work for every situation. You have plenty of tools at your disposal without resortong to shit like summons.
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>>486643763
>>486644198
Maybe I said it the wrong way, but what I meant is that if I did in in 20 tries I would be very happy I did so well, but I saw people who did better and were unhappy.
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>>486644480
>Those are at least the weapons you get as a reward for killing the final fucking boss
Final boss weapon rewards are mega cringe when you only have like 20 weapons. People defending that design at all are offensive to me. You should have access to 99% of relevant weapon classes by the 30-40% completion mark in a game like this.
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>>486644257
>that relies on theorycraft punching bags or RNG AI.
Yes, it does, because right now that's the ONLY WAY it CAN work. If this ash had the Poker's frost build-up though, you wouldn't need to theorycraft or use punching bags. Every fucking L2+R1 would remove frostbite and then instantly reapply it, and if you happen to smack them again and they are still in the fire? It fucking happens again. And again. And fucking again. Lather rinse repeat, and if the weapon also has bleed? Congrats even more procs. It'd be effortless and require no setup, unlike right now where it needs a lot of setup to work so it isn't viable.
>Really I'm just mad at people who reset my frostbites when I'm about to start dropping my big dmg.
Different animal, but I can definitely see why that would be annoying.
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>>486644471
Imagine she farts right at that moment and the Scarlet Rot gas fucking melts his face off. He inhales from being startled and drowns inside his own melting lungs
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>>486644668
>people
who? not everybody's opinion should be valued
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>>486644743
>It'd be effortless and require no setup
So you just proved why they didn't allow it and made it shit?
>Different animal, but I can definitely see why that would be annoying.
Yes it is but I also don't respect frostbite reset builds so it's kinda twofold.
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>>486644471
I like this artist
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YDNBDOH
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for a 200 str/arc build should I go all the way to 80str and then maybe 60arc? or the other way around?
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>fight Jori, elder inquisitor at range as spellcaster
>very few openings, spams spells at you, summons rush you, constant aggression, get overwhelmed
>decide to rush him in melee instead
>easily win
>fight midra
>spams madness spells, jumps across the room to punish you, super frustrating to try to get off range spells, designed to counter ranged just like Jori, just like a bunch of bosses in this DLC
>decide to rush him in melee instead
>easily win
these bosses are literally easier in melee than they are at range, I was right.
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>>486644030
stop trying to create distance so you can spam comets like an ape, that will never work against fast bosses. just play normally and cast when there's openings. you've built up a bad habit against the basegame bosses who just let you spam seven comets in a row, slow down and learn their fucking moveset
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>>486644481
Ive been rollslopping for over 12 years now and rollslopping bosses like phase 2 Radahn and Rellana is just painful because of how transparently red-light-green-light Simon Says the mechanics are. You roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll R1 roll roll roll roll roll roll roll get excited to do it again. Meanwhile, you respec into 80 STR 40 END + poisebreak tear and Super Mario the boss to death. Or greatshield turtle poke the boss to death with scholar's shield. Or take turns pulling aggro with your mimic. Honestly, they went so far out of their way to punish rollslopping that they made the gameplay as a whole super unengaging, to the point where summoning Your Son and tag teaming the boss ends up being the most fun way to approach it that lets you freely use the most equipment/spells the most consistently. That's stupid.
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>>486644892
>So you just proved why they didn't allow it and made it shit?
Not exactly. I do agree that it shouldn't match the Poker's ash perfectly. The Poker pays for its absurd ash by being a shit weapon. That said, there's something very wrong with this ash. It should be expected to be maybe half as good as the Poker ash, not 1/20 as good. The other guy wasn't exaggerating, it's quite literally unusable in it's current state. It's either broken and not scaling as some other anon mentioned or they were worried it'd be too strong and made it grossly underpowered. It needs buffs. Not buffs to Poker tier mind you, but still. I doubt they'd make a brand new ash copying the Poker with the intent it be so bad nobody would ever use it ever.
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>>486645135
Just fish for backstabs and enjoy the iframes
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>Rennalla but with the rock hard body of Nephelli from ceaseless combat training
Miyazaki is a fucking genius
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>>486645060
54 STR, 80 ARC, min dex, which should be 14 if you plan to use Mogh's stick which is an outlier or 12 for the rest then 2 hand, you stupid nigger.
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>>486645046
A shinobi would understand the difference between honor and victory.
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I should replay sekiro
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>missed all of the Yura/Bloody Fingers quest
>a sanguine noble spawns in the Altus Church instead of the NPC invader
No Mohg tear I guess...
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you dont understand i have to cast comet at 2km away or ill die
my roll button is unbound btw
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>>486645407
based
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>>486645507
>Miss Yura's quest
>Don't have Mist Raven
Bros it's over for me, I won't be able to beat Radahn...
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>>486644471
>Tarnished oc is brown
I'd bet money on this artist being Indian.
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Zullie the Witch
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>>486645706
Is a tranny yes yes we all know.
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bot answer
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>>486645638
sir we are aryans
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>>486645706
My wife
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she's just a bit silly guys
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>>486645190
the whole point of those other strategies you just described is to ignore damage windows and just throw out attacks at your own pace, which is fine, but then you describe rollslop as roll roll roll roll R1 roll roll roll roll. If that's the way you play rollslop, you have fucked up, your build is shit and you should probably just give up and equip a greatshield. if you're rollslopping, you have one of two avenues. you either dedicate yourself to large windows, or you dedicate yourself to all windows. if you have a fast weapon, it's
>roll R1 roll R1 roll R1 roll R1 roll R1
if you have a slow weapon, it's
>roll roll roll AoW or Charged R2, roll roll roll AoW or Charged R2
and these are both fun, but the key ingredient is that neither of these strategies should be lagging very far behind the greatshield poker or the goomba stomper in terms of damage. If you are, you fucked up your build.
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>>486644481
>Play mage the exact same way you play any other playstyle

>4.5 DIFFRENT ATTACKING STATS
>THEY ALL PLAY THE SAME
AHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAH FROM DRONES REALLY ARE SLOP EATERS
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>>486645565
Then get a shield and glue one of your eyeballs to the sexy green bar below the gay blue one.
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Were these fags trying to cheat and just couldn't figure out how to actually use them properly?
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>>486645802
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>486645802
Best girl
Did nothing wrong
Would probably kill the rest of the simp squad and Mickey (for his own good because he had to keep his innocence safe from the evils of this world or something) if she was given enough time.
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>>486636109
Based, fuck hosts
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I started reading ao3 and it's YOUR fault, erg.
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>>486645821
you're allowed to stand back and interact with the boss using one button if you want, anon, but you need to use the ding ding ding bell or summon some yellows to carry your shitter ass. I don't think it's bad design for the game to present an obviously accessible strategy, i.e. rollslopping, and gating other kinds of playstyles behind research and game knowledge. If you lack the imagination to be a Blinkbolt Miriam Vanishing Skelemancer who blinks around the boss arena sending skeletons to do your bidding, that's your problem. I'd say good riddance, but we both know you already left after they nerfed perfume cheese.
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>break into the DLC at RL20
>jew the Red Bear man to death with Giant Hunt
>jew the giant red bear to death with rot
>go back into the main game with my bear pelt and bear claws

These are pretty fun. They're definitely not good enough for the DLC but they're perfectly fine for main game. The damage spike from doing the full AoW combo is fucking nuts. The regular beast claws you get are better in pretty much every way imaginable so I am not sure why they made these but it's a nice larp.
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>>486646629
cut content just like most of the stuff
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>>486646629
how'd you beat mohg at rl20?
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>>486646756
I guarantee you he either cheesed him or had a phantom do it.
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It's close, but i think radahn finally dethroned isshin as From's best boss
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>>486646897
Nobody is going to take this bait.
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>>486644052
I'd rather just straight-up have an armor painter.
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>>486646848
no shit
we got ongbal in the chat over here
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This OST goes fucking hard I love it. All bangers
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>>486647012
You just did you stupid nigger
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>>486647012
i unironically believe it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>486646547
My bad, my bad. What are you reading?
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can somebody tell me how to use a fucking mule
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So many particle effects on BAYLE fuck
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>>486647152
"The Most Fearsome Empyrean"
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>>486643437
>Laggy Leda sword twink who removes your flask at fucking rl 80
Jesus fuck PvP is cooked
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>>486646756
>>486646848
There is a very easy stunlock combo you can do on Mohg with a Bloodhound Fang to wipe him out. It's a little bit of practice but doable.
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>>486647091
You can actually parry that
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>>486635748
>reach abyssal woods
>the stuttering
I just can't fucking enjoy the game like this for fuck's sake
fucking faggot gooks fix your trash
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>>486647559
Works on PS5 lmao
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>>486647559
works on my 1650
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some of you might not know this yet but /erg/ and Elden Ring in general is actually an elaborat honeypot to snare 4chan users into reading fanfics and browsing fanarts
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>>486644481
You ignore how Str builds can just use great shields to deal with his insame combos, how dex can apply effects with their quick r1s and that mages have a limited resource every fight(FP). Glad that you and some anons managed but this fight is hell to me. Rellana was way more fair since she actually had to walk to get to you instead of the shit Messmer pulls
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>>486647559
works on my raspberry pi
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>>486642175
>having sex with a female
fuck off, elden ring is a man's game
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>>486647715
reminds me of those posts were people started to get aroused by getting grabbed by wormfaces and blamed it on erg
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>>486641398
There’s audio and visual queues. Common sense should say if you angle your camera and see someone who’s expressly there to do you harm suddenly stop well out of what you consider effective range and cock back their arm with the sound of something powering up you should fuck off from the spot you’re in. Stop trying to defend idiocy to be a contrarian.
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>>486647727
>limited resource
You have an FP regen talisman now. Just get better at dodging lmao
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>>486647727
On the topic of mages and FP management, the craftable that regens fp but builds up sleep is actually really good. At 10 int with shit tier focus armor, it fills roughly 1.5 status bars over its duration. With good int/focus or hell just using a bolus at the right time, it's basically free starlight shards.
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>>486646547
I won’t apologize for the bloodhound knight breeding story.
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>>486647894
>queues
cues, a queue is when you line up for something
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>>486648042
>Just spend 50 years farming or use cheat engine bro
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>>486642983
>>486647894
>dude how do you not know that sorcery that just looks like every other blue magic in the game has an aoe effect?
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>>486648115
Potato tomato. Point is there’s a warning.
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>>486647591
at 50fps tho
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>>486648272
I'd much rather play at 50 FPS than deal with all the chugging on PC.
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>>486646547
If you think that's bad, /erg/ started me writing fanfiction :v
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>>486648135
Haven't farmed at all or used cheat engine (yet, getting more tempting every day) and I still have like 30 of the suckers.
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What would you guys say is the best level for PvE coop?
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>>486648445
80
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>>486640728
>>486640936
You were right
This afk spot is way better lmao
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>>486647727
>invest in mind because you're a caster
>drink blue juice instead of taking a punish every once in a while
It's not hard. I'm leveling my pure INT/FAI caster now and it's fine. The blue dew talisman also helps for general purpose gameplay.
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This fucking thing is so god damn underrated holy shit.
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>>486648145
Nigger did you not read the rest of what I said? Even if you don’t know it’s an aoe the fact that the guy trying to kill you stopped out of reach of you and started preparing something should tell you to get the fuck away. If you get in a fight with someone and they start reaching into their coat or a bag outside of fisting range do you really need them to tell you that they have a weapon that they intend to use on you?
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>>486648445
No way to know yet. The playerbase is still once in a life time level bloated and active.

When it settles, maybe 100? Should be
>Ok for DLC if a bit weak
>Capable of being called to more than half of the main game too
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>>486648489
Kek cheers anon, enjoy the hatemail.
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>>486648346
I mean thats on framerate mode, in quality mode it runs at sub 40fps.
dunno about that
I guess I'll cap my fps to 60 and try again
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>>486648519
What does it do? t. newfag still playing through base game
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>>486648642
Anon be honest, you about to go invade caelid specifically to fuck with this guy now aren’t you?
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>>486648746
leave this general and go play the fucking game
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>>486648520
>racism

didn't read any further, fix the hate in your heart
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>>486648746
It’s a regular flame itemized version of scouring black flame that doesn’t need the stat requirements of the godskin incant. Breddy gud to have on hand.
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>>486648536
>100
>>Ok for DLC if a bit weak
You are not getting summoned for the DLC at RL100. People do that shit at ~RL150 and that's not going to change.
>>486648746
It's an infinite use tool that scales with DEX and sprays a wide range of flame in front of you for 13 FP. The damage is incredible with good DEX, it's essentially a second AoW or "free" spell. I wish STR got something this great.
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>>486648805
holy shit based
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>>486647559
literally works on my machine
time to upgrade that 970 pedro
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>>486648805
I’m black. Now answer the question. Are you able to read the situation and act accordingly or do you have the self preservation capacity of a lemming?
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>>486648769
Nope I don't invade or do any multiplayer for that matter. Still got no idea what you're on about. He says it still works so I can only assume they haven't patched it out.
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>>486648937
but I'm on an OCd12600k OCd 3070 32gb ram machine
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>>486648805
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>>486649067
heres the icon bro
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>>486649052
>OCd12600k OCd 3070
Anon you can't just roll your face on the keyboard and pretend it's a real PC.
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>>486648805
M... m-my knees, they're...!
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>>486649045
prove it
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>>486649203
>nooo not possible my perfect devs coded the perfect game you liar you poorfag that's why it runs bad on your poorfag pc
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>>486648805
>t.
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>>486649374
Imagine getting this upset because I made a joke. Damn dude go jerk off or something, maybe get a snack. You need to cool off.
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Reworked my mage into more of a battle mage, kinda. Trying to make a druid is difficult.
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>>486649361
You’ll have to excuse my shit handwriting, suffered some nerve damage in my dominant hand. Feel free to do what I wrote though.
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>>486649626
how the duck do you make a druid when there is no nature magic in ER
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>>486649626
cool tarnished
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>>486649686
>SEAmonkey trying to pass as a soul brotha so he can use slurs
Sorry junglechink, no n-word pass for you
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>>486649475
sure, but stop shilling for these gooks
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>>486649626
>Trying to make a druid is difficult.
Just go for Diablo 2 style druid, we got the bear pelt and beast claws. Plenty of elemental nature magic too.
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>>486649743
>comparing me to a chink of any flavor
You know anon there’s insulting me and then there’s that. Too far man. Too far.
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>>486649686
that is an indian hand, you don't fool me
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>>486649686
HELLO SAAR
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>>486649726
Well those root incants can be like trees or something
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>>486649686
Puerto Rican or Poo no other options
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>>486648805
One day I'm going to find a racist white guy on 4chan make him fall in love with me and we'll have a bunch of mulatto kids i have a corruption fetish and a "i can fix him" fetish. This would be both.
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>>486649686
>"Yeah I'm totally black bro, a real nigga h-hahah here's my hand to prove it"
>Indochinese/Indian subcontinent phenotype
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>>486649842
That’s actually worse than calling me a chink. At least call me a Dominican or something. That’s what most people say I look like anyway when I haven’t cut my hair.
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>>486649965
Allow me to introduce myself, she-nigger.
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>>486648109
The fucking what
>>486648357
I don't think that's too bad, I envy you
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>>486649968
>every black person has to be super dark!
You do realize we aren’t all just fade into the shadows dark right?
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>>486649965
Why Are Chicas Like This
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>>486649965
I'm not white but I'm totally down for this. Where you live, babe?
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>>486650183
She ain't interested in you, Pajeet. She belongs to whitey.
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>>486649965
>this is the person making messmerfujo shitposts
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>ask an anon on 4chan to prove it
>he actually proves it
what the fuck do I do now, my years of shitposting haven't prepared me for this
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>>486649686
Good Morning sirs.
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>>486650335
Do what they’re currently doing and double down for more (you)s.
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>>486650335
Simple, call him a nigger
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>>486648901
>You are not getting summoned for the DLC at RL100.
There will be some.
>People do that shit at ~RL150 and that's not going to change.
I doubt it. Once people realize you don't need to statbloat to get through the DLC and that the list of easily obtained blessings that aren't gated by bosses is huge, they'll overlevel a little less in many cases.

Noobs lose runes and pros spend 'em. This cockamamy shit about RL 150 being "natural" is dumb. Your AR and survivability aren't going up signifacntly between 100 and 150 but if you're 100 you could be summoned to almost all of the main legacy dungeons AND low level DLC.
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>>486650294
One day I'm going to find a racist demigod in shadow keep make him fall in love with me and we'll have a bunch of half-Carian kids i have a redhead fetish and a "i can fix him" fetish. This would be both.
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>>486650064
>The fucking what
You read what I said. I won’t apologize for it either.
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>>486645586
This isn't even a shitpost really. Emma is so unbelievably bland that Kuro feels like the actual love interest. Which is awful
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>>486650613
True, valid, understandable and sympathetic
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>>486650462
I bet you cry about 125 being bloat too
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>>486645586
Im tired of ironic faggots
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>>486650750
fujo-kun, please control yourself
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>>486650462
>This cockamamy shit about RL 150 being "natural" is dumb.
This is cope. You're coping.
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Wtf is going on in this thread
Is it ovulation season?
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>>486650183
What colour are you?
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>>486650838
No I'm not crying I'm obectively trying to balance getting called to Leyndell/Halig/Volcano/Sewers/Deeproot/Azula with still getting some fun Belurat/Shadowkeep action.
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>>486643238
which descriptions?
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>>486650849
you gonna cry about it?
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>>486650874
'I'm not coping. I spend hundreds of thousands on consumables and ores every build. This is the same as bad players who lose lots of currency. There's also the matter of optional content.

Only robotic guide follower types who play "correctly" are reliably getting to such levels.
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>>486650949
It's okay bro let it out we won't judge you.
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>>486650904
I figure either an anon or two got BTFO in the previous thread and are trying to shit up this one in retribution or are just really desperate for attention. They’ll get tired eventually I’m sure.
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>>486649965
Hot
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What are some lore revelations only (You) know about?
>Radahn is actually a lying fraud as he did not stop the stars on his own, he required Miquella's help
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>>486650852
Control myself in what way?
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>>486648671
>cap fps to 60 down from 90
>when capped at 90 it would stutter even into low 70s
>capped at 60 it now stutters even into low 50s
fucking gooks simply can't code
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>>486651094
You make up literally 1% of all players. The vast majority of people spend their runes on levels, quit being a fucking idiot.
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Does killing Radhan brick any quests?
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>>486650912
Almost white

>>486651203
nope
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>>486650874
150tards are toxic and chudlike they'll die out.
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Everything is a mimic tear
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>>486651203
If you haven’t done the st.Trina stuff with Thiollier then you won’t be able to do it once he’s dead, beyond that the point of no return for other shit was burning the thorns.
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>>486651153
id top him
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>>486651094
Here's what's gonna happen. You will continue to write paragraphs to them they'll keep calling you mad, you'll continue to write paragraphs, they'll keep saying you're coping, you'll continue to write paragraphs, they'll mockingly make a short argument reply like "no one else does that lmao" or something similar. They're not here to have a discussion just laugh at you. Stop feeding the trolls.
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>>486651143
Bayle is fanfic, Placidusax is the storm king Godfrey wounded.
Proof: Crucible knights at Farum Azula
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>>486651120
We're talking about different things I think
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>Of course your my favorite child Messmer you delivered justice to all those dirty hornsets.
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>>486651512
>Proof: Crucible knights at Farum Azula
how does this prove anything
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>>486651186
The runes they keep. And they probably miss out on tons and lose even more. People die LOTS.

Pretty much if you "naturally" got to 150 there's a good chance you're a guide following, ash using, co-op summoning easy mode enjoyer. More people player on normal mode than you'd think.

>>486651430
I know how it works anon.
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>>486649965
IT'S HER
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>>486651607
>your
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>Summoned for the glintstone drake in Liurna
>Invaded while fighting the dragon
>Invader beelines towards me
>Insta one shot by the dragon's glinstone breath
lol
>Host also gets one shot by the same attack
...
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>>486651246
Anon that's 125s
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This is getting ridiculous bosses keeps disengaging and increasing distance way too often
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>>486651708
I'm not racist when I'm horny
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>>486651321
I meant Starscourge Radhan
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>>486651679
>Pretty much if you "naturally" got to 150 there's a good chance you're a guide following, ash using, co-op summoning easy mode enjoyer.
Yes anon and they make up the MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERBASE. You are proving my fucking point. Most people use ashes, most people look shit up, you are an outlier. Your experience is not the norm. You are not going to get DLC summons at fucking RL100 in the god damn shadow keep.
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>>486651882
>Yes anon and they make up the MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERBASE
No they don't. Tons of people just play offline.
> Most people use ashes, most people look shit up
And are still hopeless normies who die a thousand times because they're offenisvely bad.
> You are not going to get DLC summons at fucking RL100 in the god damn shadow keep.
Of course I am if I want to help with bosses. There's zero obstacles between Mohg and the Shadowkeep. People will be wanting help.

Damn bro you're making me wanna make a FTH build for that range and purpose.
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>tfw I'll never be with a black woman again
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>>486652074
>>486651882
And yes I realize I self undermined by saying people play offline but what I meant is shittons of people are just "solo" players who play while oonline.
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>>486651679
Then why feed him
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>>486652085
I've always wanted to fuck a she monkey, what's it like? I've only ever fucked white girls.
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>/erg/ niggers and faggots
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>>486652208
I like doing it and the more truth I spread in the world, the better. I'm their favorite and worst thing at once. Smarter than them, usually right but also beholden to self-imposed autistic principled nonsense. They can get the (You)s but I doubt they usually fully enjoy the actual exchange.
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Need to sexo a hot black chick
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I just don't understand why resummoning torrent is defaulted on cancel
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>>486651143
What? Miquella needed him to die because he stopped the stars. Why would he have helped him do it?
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Based bleachers
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Getting to level 200 takes forever, how do people do this?
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>>486652491
because dying for being bad a simple input is better than using your last flask to heal your stupid horse instead of you.
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>>486652349
No one cares about truth if you sound mad or someone claims you do
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>>486651708
Cute with great lips
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>>486652574
cheat engine
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>>486651708
>nail goes past the fingertips
women are so disgusting its unbelievable
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>>486652673
Oh right you guys are frauds, I forgot.
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>Cute Black girls could be lurking this thread RIGHT NOW
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>>486649626
Very very nice
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>take my Dryleaf Arts back to main game
>can finally throw hands against Hoarah Loux

Fight me you barbarian fuck
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>>486652574
I didn't grind at all but after killing everything main game and then the DLC, I finished with RL182ish and a huge pile of lord runes/etc in my inventory. I doubt it would take me 10 minutes to hit 200 if I wanted.
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>>486652574
I grinded some frogmen while doing co-op signs. But simply clearing the game gives lots too.

>>486652584
Sounds like normie cattle behavior. Don't care.
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>>486649726
>>486649913
Crucible spells, skibidi thorn spells, ancestor head and horn winged axe, beast spells
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jesus christ there's a new grace every 2 feet

this really is super normgroid souls
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>>486650462
I went from 139 to 150 and I see a lot more activity during invasions. I think duelists should stay at around 125-139, but if you want co-op and pvp, I recommended leveling up.
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>>486652941
people whined about having to play the level sadly
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Using Mohg's shackle to automatically unlock spirit springs and turn flame pillars on and off has been a fucking godsend.
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>>486652920
Also bear roar spell
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>Noooo you can't level about the established pvp level cap!!!!
Don't care
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>>486653059
bitch please, don't pretend people didn't just run through the level ignoring every enemy after the first time they fought everything
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>>486652908
You should care if you're wasting time on normie cattle which you are by talking to these people
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>>486652574
By playing the fucking game? Killing most bosses will get you OVER 200 by the end of the base game and DLC. If you're speedrunning and skipping half the content then of course you'll fall short dummy.
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>>486653260
You are full of shit, I'm 190 at Radahn.
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>>486652762
Ty anon
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>>486653159
125 139 and 150ers are all sissies
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>normie

IT'S NORMALFAG YOU ZOOM ZOOM NIGGERS
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>>486653360
okay boomer
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>>486653360
Freddy fazzbear lookin mf
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>>486653294
*kisses you* what now liberal?
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>>486653236
Not if I'm having fun
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>>486653454
*grabs your ass and holds you tight* you fool, I'm a bichad.
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>>486653125
I keep forgetting this is a thing. Thanks, I'll forget it again for my next playthrough
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>>486653438
Kind of lewd if you imagine it's a crossdressing fat ugly bastard and the player character as a cute Type B with a vulnerable and easy-to-bully g-spot
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>>486653438
is that a fucking deep great mace

wait is that vordt's mace
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>>486636097
Of course they didn't.
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>>486653458
Wanna have more fun? Let's make out homo
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>>486653591
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Am I fucking overleveled at 60 +5 somber for Radhan? No fucking signs show up and I don't get summoned for him either
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Did I cook bros?
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>>486653591
>Type B with a vulnerable and easy-to-bully g-spot
this info is extra, ALL type b have exploitable trained hypersensitive pussies
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>>486653826
it's spelled radahn, and you're a little overleveled
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>>486653294
Uh-huh and how much content did you skip retard? I guarantee you haven't hit anywhere near every boss in the base game and DLC combined.
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>>486637715
What lore?
Miquella finding the lost palace of Rauhl, the king of Albinauric, to use the sacred egg to enter the shadow word, instead of consuming its flesh like Ranni and Godwyn did?
Using the finger ancient world to be rebirth as the scadu tree like his mother did with the Erdtree?

His removed his flesh IN the scaduworld to get this, to build a new dynasty.
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>>486654173
you are nuts if you think you naturally hit over level 200 in the base game, get off my dick with your shit.
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>>486652524
>What? Miquella needed him to die because he stopped the stars. Why would he have helped him do it?
He needed him to die so he could molest his soul and force him to be his lord. The implication of the weapons you get from PC is pretty clear
>Greatswords of black steel wielded by Radahn in his youth. A pair of weapons decorated with a lion mane motif. These were in his possession immediately before his triumph over the stars—the swords of a lord who does not rely on physical strength and gravity alone.
>does not rely on physical strength and gravity alone
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>>486654503
>Killing most bosses will get you OVER 200 by the end of the base game and DLC
>base game and DLC
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I hope I can find some Zeus-type armor. I want my Faith Build to look like they've joined the pantheon
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>>486654551
And youre still full of shit because I'm 190 at Radahn. You didnt hit 200 without grinding.
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>>486654503
>200 in the base game
You are literally fucking illiterate. I said base game AND DLC. By the end of the base game alone you hit around ~150.
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>>486654461
Schizo
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>>486653965
Apparently I'm 56 and +4, not +5. No activity whatsoever
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>>486654623
I'm not that guy, I just thought it'd be funny to point out your error and watch you move the goal posts.
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>>486654623
Again how much content did you skip retard? How much runes have you spent on shit besides levels? You refuse to answer the first question so I can only assume you skipped a fair amount. Most people don't speedrun the fucking game, they explore. If they find a dungeon they do it. Your ass probably runs away the second you see imps.
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>>486653826
I get summoned for him a lot at 60 +4, maybe its a bad night.
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>>486654507
>does not rely on physical strength and gravity alone
What the hell does that have to do with Miquella? It's implying that he possesses those things but also skill and a sound mind. Stopping the stars halts Empyrean fate so it makes zero sense for Miquella, and Empyrean, to do it. Radahn did it in defiance of him.
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I hope this is the last open world they do, I'm sick of fighting two bosses that has no synergy with each other
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>>486654730
>>486654749
Cute couple of grinders (or maybe you use CE like most of the losers here). No way you hit 200 without grinding, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>486654865
>entered DLC at 156
>ended up spending millions of runes on crafting materials, smithing stones, and upgrading like 20 different weapons because I didn't want to level over 200
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>>486654865
>Still refusing to answer a simple question
Confirmed to have skipped a shit load. Thanks for playing, or rather that's what I would say but we both know you barely played at all.
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>>486654863
No shit. I liked Souls because of the dungeon crawling aspect.
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>>486654994
Retard I'm level 191 at this point. I'm overleveled, this feels so dumb. You must just be a massive casual.
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>>486654865
I literally had to stop leveling after Messmer because I didn't want to go over RL200 for online, didn't grind at all btw. It's worth noting I did Messmer late though, only bosses after him I had left were Romina, the second lion, Leda gank, and Radahn.
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>>486654637
People who use ~ are sissies
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>>486654698
He became a flower like trina, that’s obvious. Hence why she’s hidden so deep underground and protected by an Albinauric zombie
That’s why he needs a consort, not because he’s a fag.
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>defeat Rellana
>"Uugggghhhh ooooouuugghhh........ Messmer... forgive me...."
>"You are forgiven, Rellana."
>Messmer enters as the phase 2
Would you have shouted "HOLY FUCKING KINO I KNEEL MIYAZAKI" and rated the DLC a 10/10 regardless of the final boss who is Radahn, the Promised Consort?
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>>486655062
>Still dodging the question
Man you're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
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>>486655175
Hmm, nah. All Carians must be purged
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>>486655215
What question dude you have to be more specific, you've been whining at me for like 10 minutes.
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>>486655154
Hence why there’re shamans praying trees and albinauric mixing with beasts near the Haligtree gateway, the ice plain of Ordina.
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>>486654865
If youre thorough it should be quite easy to hit RL200. I ended base game at RL160 on my first playthrough and I started the DLC with a RL125 character and got to RL185 at the end. That being said I dont think I ever lost any significant number of runes to dying in the DLC but also the only farming I did was to get the black knight set.
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>>486655275
How much content did you skip?
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Anyone else already over the dlc and gone back to the main game? There's really nothing to do or see in yugioh land after you beat the core bosses and most of them aren't even fun to fight again as a phantom
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I'm sorry guys, I didn't play the DLC blind. I looked up character quests and how to enter the Abyssal Woods. Elden Ring General, forgive me...
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>>486655348
185 is millions of runes from 200. You'll still have to grind to hit that.

>>486655381
The second lion and I have to fight Bayle still. Maybe a catacomb or a forge since I'm not following a guide.
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>>486654865
Base game gets you to around RL170 if you do EVERYTHING, I'm talking 100% full clear, most people finish it around 150. It's very easy to go over 200 in the DLC and never grind once.
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>>486655460
Not your fault, the map is complete trash, 2D with no relief, borderline useless
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>>486655475
Yeah but I also entered the DLC before entering farum azula or doing most of the side dungeons. If you went in at RL150 it would be different.
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>>486655475
There is simply no way those are the only two bosses in the entire game (base AND DLC) you haven't fought. You also say you're not using a guide, so I can only assume you're shit at exploring.
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>>486655614
>you must be lying!
lol I knew you'd pull this shit
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Forgive me, dearest Nanaya Shiki...
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>kill consort radahn at level 80 after elden beast dies at 76
>still wandering how people get to 100
>people here talking about reaching 200
I assume anyone above 90 grinded
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>>486655675
Post your base game and DLC maps then and prove it bro. Let's see them graces. If you refuse, it's clear we both know you missed a lot of content.
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>>486655681
Shut up Nasu
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>>486655706
wow bro you're so cool with your obvious lies
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>>486655706
Errm you skipped the buttfuck catacombs obviously.

>>486655747
First post proof you've ever had sex.
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It really does feel like boss down times are getting shorter and shorter
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>>486655706
I killed the Elden Beast at Soul Level 150, and I killed Radahn PC at Soul Level 150. What does that tell of me?
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>>486655810
>Refuses to post proof and deflects with a grade school insult
I accept your concession. We both know you missed a lot of content.
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>>486652574
scarab tear
golden pickled fowl foot
sacred relic sword at palace approach ledge site of grace
rinse, repeat
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>>486655858
>Soul Level
huh?
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>I accept your concession
Mark of a shitposter desu.
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>>486655908
I converted the Demon's Soul into power, obviously.
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Man I fkn love the smithscript weapons, too bad that practically all of them are mediocre in comparison to great hammer (in pve). the fall off on these weapons feels so egregious, only one with any sort of real range is the GH (not including the shield, thing is cracked). What do you guys think about them?
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I don't remember the base game being filled with these heal begging messages
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>play elden ring pvp all day for 4 days straight
>characters at 125, 138, 150, and 200
>see a bunch of fun unique builds, cosplays, memes, and only a few tryhards
>when I invade most people are taunters tounging and going through areas to mimic ds1 and ds2, for 2v2s, only a couple of actual gankers waiting
I'm on ps maybe it's different here but the pvp I'm seeing here is actually fun, it's not just spell or l2 spam I see complained about in this thread.
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>LOL LMAO HAVE SEX LOL HAHAHAHAHA
Mark of a virgin desu.
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>Have sex! Have sex! Have sex, virgin! Have sex! Have sex, with me!
Mark of a desperate type B who has gone too long without instant loss rape.
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>>486656043
Fellow PS5 CHAD here, I can confirm this post. I play at RL200 and it's a blast. No sweats and no cheaters, ganks are very rare.
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I want to have sex...
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>>486656169
Try piercing
but hole
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>>486656047
>>486656143
The hit dogs are hollerin
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i beat putrescant knight today
was an extremely fair, classic fromsoft style fight but it was
>way too short, his move set is really small
>a bit annoying as he outspaces you with his horse really quickly

man ive been kinda disappointed with the dlc so far. everything looks so cool but is so empty. i spent really long exploring the finger ruins near the cerulean coast and the incredibly massive area is just empty except for some really annoying and uncreative enemies. you get to the center expecting something amazing to happen and you just get a talisman lol like what the fuck is this game even on

i spent an hour exploring the coast line in that area, the area surrounding the ruins and all there was
>ash duplicating coffin
>cookbook
>flask talisman

what about the lore? what about environmental story telling? what is going on with these ruins? what the fuck man. even that giant hole that led to the putrescent knight
>why are there bloodfiends down there
>why was miquella all over the fucking place down there, apparently bleeding everywhere, what was he even doing? whyd he abandon st.trina there instead of somewhere else?

everyone says shadowkeep is the bees knees, i really hope it salvages the game for me
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>>486656323
>everyone says shadowkeep is the bees knees, i really hope it salvages the game for me
Most people praising shadowkeep are invaders. In terms of PvE content there's like a 25% chance you'll love it and a 75% chance you'll hate it. No in-between.
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>>486656323
He didnt want Trina to be found. He abandoned his love there which is a facade he hopes to keep going (he still plays as a compassionate god).
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Wait people hate Shadowkeep? That place was awesome. Great use of space. Must be people with bad taste.
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>>486656047
>>486656169
Now kiss
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>>486656572
A lot of people give it shit for the fact that the back section is inaccessible from the normal keep and requires you to haul ass halfway across the map to get into. Also it's filled with Fire Knights and they filter shitter builds who can't bully them.
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>>486654849
Because the sword shoots fucking light beams and is what he uses in the boss fight, are you dense?
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do you consider posture bar mod to be cheating
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is there a sword like DMGS but its holy damage instead? the GOGS sucks ass
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>>486656812
No, they should've just copied sekiros posture ui
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>>486656812
It is, because knowing exactly when you can stagger an enemy allows you to make risky moves with strong attacks. You also know when you need to use a throwing knife to deal at least a little bit of damage to stop posture regen.
That said, don't let that stop you from having fun if it's not your first playthrough.
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>>486656868
No not really. Nothing is going to compare to that thing on a FTH build as far as greatswords go aside from the Blasphemous Blade and that does fire, not holy.
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Holy shit, the interior level design in the DLC is absolutely 0/10 bottom tier. It's nothing but hallway after hallway. Ensis Castle is the biggest joke in this entire series. The "Legacy Dungeons" in SotET make Aldia's Manor look like the RE1 mansion by comparison. Utterly worthless.
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>>486655706
Do you pay a 70% tax on your runes or something? Do your Lands Between fall under Belgian jurisdiction?
With just the runes you get by killing the base game remembrance bosses you should get enough to level up to RL110, you need to be a shitter of an unprecedented caliber to be able to throw over 2 million runes down the drain over a regular playthrough
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>>486656438
That is pretty weird. Especially when you consider he's singing about radahn in the second phase if you listen closely, and when defeated he gently caresses radahn. I've seen a few explanations the main ones are
1. He got rid of his love but not his obsession
2. His love is st trina they're reunited once he dies
3. He didn't actually get rid of his love at all its a ploy to hide him getting rid of trina
4. He was filled with replacement emotions and body parts after becoming a god considering he still has legs and has eyes as while they're closed in the boss there's still the groove there like he has them
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>>486656937
You guys are too hyperbolic to take seriously.
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>>486656812
Absolutely. It allows you to know when you can safely overextend. It's definitely cheating.
>>486656950
He's either lying or he's a retarded zoomer who speedran the only bosses he had to in order to finish the game. Ignore him.
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>>486656950
I've died many times yeah but unlike most of you I beat radahn without being overleved with only 5 scadu levels without using magic or shields or poking or bleed or rot
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>>486656953
5. none of the miquella shit makes sense, miyazaki is a hack
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>>486657083
clap clap
do u want a cookie or smth?
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>>486657083
You expect us to believe you beat Radahn at RL80 and +5 skibidi with no summons and no cheese? Nah you're lying. Prove it or fuck off lol.
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>>486657083
I see Miquella wasn't the only one who got his bumhole ripped up by Radahn on that day
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>>486657134
Right but throw on Morgott's rags, I think it might work.
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>>486656043
>>486656149
Also a ps player. I've invaded a lot, there's a lot of shitty phantoms but there's nowhere near the amount of when I play on pc. On ps out of like 20 invasions half of them will he a blender while the other half normal meanwhile on pc out of 20 invasions 19 will be blenders. I've also noticed on ps there's a lot more people wholl just sit back and let their phantom 1v1 you even the overlevled phantoms will 1v1 you and not team up on you.
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>>486656714
>Franchise then.
Wow, I beat the game with just bow!
Cool bro, I've just did a fat rolling build!
Awesome guys, for me it was the Rapier in left hand build!

>Franchise now.
LMFAO these off-meta shitter builds are getting filtered by the 10 times copy-pasted NPC that attacks 7 times in-between every 1 second window to counter attack. I mean imagine not doing some OP gimmick build hahahaha!
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I wish I had a PS5...mods and cheats ruined the online experience on PC. Bloodborne had kino online.
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>>486656034
Password system for messages is broken, so we are forced to read RedditMAXXed garbage instead of the wholesome /dsg/ and /erg/ messages.
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>>486657340
We get it you got filtered by fire knights and hate the shadowkeep, you don't need to get this upset.
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>>486657285
Can't, my pyro goblin has those robes on. I try not to use the same armor for my characters.
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>>486657149
Yeah I'll take one
>>486657215
I'll give you this it took me a long time to beat them. I reached them on the 25th of june and beat them on the 16th of this month playing 4-8 hours a day. But I did it. I actually got good unlike many of you people
>>486657249
My main man radahn isn't gay
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>>486657340
>filtered by fire knights
Literally how? Man some of you are ass at this game.

>>486657513
Completely fair.
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>>486656795
Only after Miquella joins him. It's "Remembrance of a God and a Lord", meaning their combined power from that fight. Again, it makes absolutely no sense for Miquella to freeze his own fate.
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>>486657585
>No proof
Yeah sure bud and I beat them at RL1 +0 skibidi bare fist no armor, didn't even sip any flasks and my dick was getting sucked the entire time but I held my nut in like a MAN until the kill. Shit was so cash.
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The final dungeon is harder than Shadow Keep by a long shot.
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>>486657710
Maybe, but its super linear and short.
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>>486657710
Neither one is really that bad. Catacombs are worse, fuck imps.
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>>486656572
I dislike it because it's just another fortress, which does not satisfy my boner for ancient civilizations.
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>>486656909
>That said, don't let that stop you from having fun if it's not your first playthrough.
i'm playing an int guy right now and I literally can't conceptualize how much posture damage I'm doing like I could with colossal weapons. Like I get a feel for a break with colossal weapons where it's like after 2 jump attacks, a light and a poke I'll probably get a break with a heavy or another jump+poke. With int its like oh this great glintstone broke him for some reason??? It took that many great glintblades to break them?? Why the hell did my rapier break him that time??? I want to actually know, visually, how much posture my spells and thrusting sword attacks are doing because I want to start using carian sovereignty more. Getting the break with sovereignty is massive to the point where timing the break with sovereignty could be a playstyle in itself. I mean I guess a reliable alternative to chipping posture with spells before sov break could just be deflect 3 deflect guard counters with a greatsword followed by sov but i'm bored with deflect guard counters now.
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>>486655852
It's no longer satisfying to play these games when I have to fucking dodge 7 attacks between every opportunity to do an R1 or heal. I really miss the old design. I want a long level, then a puzzle boss OR a basic skill check boss. The difficulty is the run-back. So you play a long level and you have to use common sense and logical thinking and knowledge of game mechanics to beat the boss. If you die, you have to optimize your runback. There is always a chance to beat the boss on your first try if you're good enough. Mental stamina is the challenge. Can you find your way to the boss in Boletaria 2 and then still be focused enough to figure out killing the crossbowmen and running behind the Tower Knight's ankles?

Now, it's just the same fucking marathon boss over and over where you have to die 10 times just to learn how the fuck to thread the needle of a dodge roll through the wild attacks of the boss. I'm doing the same god damn thing every time and almost nothing that I learn is applicable from one boss to another.

I really miss DeS / DS1 / DS2. I'm afraid we'll never get slow and methodical games from Miyazaki ever again. This reflexmaxx'd purgatory design from Bloodborn feels permanently entrenched.
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>>486657890
What you've discovered is that big weapons are overpowered. This is why STR builds are easy mode.
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>>486657890
If you're playing how Miyazaki intended, that's how it's supposed to be. You're not supposed to know.
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>coop with a friend in Castle Morne
>both in level/area appropriate gear/stats
>get invaded
>invader stands on top of a wall and throws cheated-in(because you know an invader will not have bothered doing a low-RL run through the DLC) hefty rot pots and hefty red lightning pots at us
>we die, unable to do anything
>invader crouchspams
I know you lot like to say you're the balance for the mechanic of being able to summon help. How is being killed by shit we have no way of accessing or preventing "balance"? How is this not just essentially bullying?
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>>486657696
Dude spent 120 hours on radahn lmao, anyone could do it at that point.
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>>486658121
>If you're playing how Miyazaki intended
You mean with spirit ashes?
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>>486657605
>Literally how? Man some of you are ass at this game.

>Use 80% of weapons in the game.
no stagger.

>Use greatswords or some other huge thing.
stagger from my attacks

Am I seriously expected to dodge 7 times, then deal 5% of the enemy's health as damage, and then repeat the 7 dodges? When big STR weapons can hit for thrice my damage and stagger them into follow-up hits?

Do you not understand that if not everything is viable then the design is shit? I used to fat-roll Tower Shield DeS and DS1. Now I can't even do basic straight sword anymore.
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>putrescent cleaver
>ancient meteoric sword
>bloodfiend arm

is str/arc eating good?
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>>486658324
Use the ol zweihander man, its got low stat requirements for a reason.
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>>486658324
>Now I can't even do basic straight sword anymore.
Use square off retard, holy shit.
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>>486658324
Straight swords have R2s, charged R2s, jump attacks, and ashes of war.
>I have to adapt to enemies instead of spamming R1s
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>>486657481
Uh oh, that message wasn't the first time I posted in this thread, therefore my argument is nil.
Elden Ring fanbase IQ is pretty low, I see.
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>>486658405
>>putrescent cleaver
This one is shit.
>>ancient meteoric sword
Yeah this one is kino.
>>bloodfiend arm
This one is for fags even post-nerf. Nobody genuinely likes it, they just use it because it's OP. People call it a chicken wing for a reason, it looks retarded.
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>>486645346
>A shinobi would understand the difference between honor and victory.
Incredibly fucking based.
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>>486658479
Again we understand fire knights bent you over and buttfucked you. You don't need to try this hard.
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>>486655852
It really does insentivies jump attacks since it closes the gab before they continue with their wombo combo and swings fast
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>>486658405
yes
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>>486658531
>Nobody genuinely likes it

I do. A body part for a bleed weapon is metal as fuck thematically. Wish we got an entire body like the pthumerian psychos in chalice dungeons
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WHAT THE FUCK is up with Ancient Dragon Sennesax? None of the base game dragons were 1/10th as frustrating. Is it because he doesn't really give opportunities to strike his head? I'm right about to summon Aurelia I swear to fuck.
>>486645346
I never really understood this. Genichiro was telling Wolf to go fuck himself before he cut off his arm, right?
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>>486658826
Because miyazaki decided to put it in water for some fucking reason.
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So I think Knight's Lightning Spear is broken. No not overpowered, I mean actually broken. NPCs don't seem to try and dodge it? We all know NPCs in this game input read, that's not exactly news, but they don't seem to register when I cast KLS. You'd think I just shot Night Comet at them, it's very strange. I don't know if it's ALL enemies at this time but all the ones I've thrown it at don't even try to dodge it.
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>>486658930
I had noticed and I also noticed that even when you lead him to the rocky area, his lightning still spreads as if it were on water. Fucker.
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>>486658826
Kite with torrent, that dragon has too much aoe to fight regularly
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>>486658942
Same thing happens with regular lightning spear.
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>>486658082
>This is why STR builds are easy mode
int has been easier 90% of the time. carian slicer is just better than every melee option for damage & safety. I don't need staggers like I do on str unless I'm trying to do sovereignty gimmicks. I basically don't have to engage with tricky enemy placement because spells solve every mob encounter
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>>486658826
>I'm right about to summon Aurelia I swear to fuck
Lol go ahead, she won't help. That fucker is bullshit. Both times I've killed him it was with shameless cheese. I'm not fighting an ancient dragon in a pool of water, that's horse shit.
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How could 1 tarnished stome leyndell and kill morgott, but radahn and the redmane army couldn't?
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>>486639365
What the hell are you even talking about?
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>>486659021
Does it? Very interesting. Never used the OG much, the damage was too low to bother. I wonder why they act this way.
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>>486659063
>>486659019
Aaaaaaaaaa I didn't want to cheese but this is really some horseshit.
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>>486659014
Oh yeah, I decided to just throw Miracles at him. Fuck fighting bosses like that fair
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>>486659137
you have godwyn's soul + finger parasites
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Dragons truly are the worst
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>>486659301
>you have godwyn's soul
Next level schizo headcanon
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The Meta Story is:
Miquella represents Liberal ideology.
Liberal ideology is heavily built upon mindless, reckless compassions as an excuse to do all sorts of damaging things.

We are thwarting him from becoming a god, as we are clever enough to understand that a world built upon compassion is not a good idea - the epitome of "road to hell built with good intentions".

Radahn is shoe-horned in because the Meta Story is symbolizing Right Wingers being bought out by Liberal agents. Right Wing in the USA, UK, France, Germany, etc. is a dead and gutted party. Like Radahn, they are shadows of their formal selves. A walking corpse.

There is always a meta story in these games, and it is often why the in-universe story feels fucking strange and shoe-horned in many places.

DeS' meta-story is the first time experience of depression.
DS1's meta-story is a prolonged sensation of depression, with a (now tired and overlooked) side story of decay being the destiny of all things.
DS2's meta-story is the overcoming of depression.
Bloodborne's meta-story is the study of Pre-Christian philosophies and ancient academia, leading to the founding of Christianity, some people invariably becoming "beasts" when given knowledge, etc. with the School of Mensis being a depiction of globalism (The One Reborn is the ideal of Multi-culturalism, which is of course an abhorrent, ugly thing). It also comments on great ideas (not necessarily good ones, just powerful ideas, so even e.g. Marxism) being seen as alien and unacceptable (like a rancid slug) to the average person.

Elden Ring's meta-story is kind of a repeat of Bloodborne, though much more loose. Lot of Christianity criticism as usual, though for all you seething Christcucks, Elden Ring does admit that it's at least partly on the right track, as the Perfect Order ending is objectively the best ending.
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>>486659328
See those guys were fun to fight. Neat little twist on those repetitious dragons in the base game.
>>486659234
A more based man than I.
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Aspect of the Crucible: Knot
Aspect of the Crucible: Force Ovulation
With these two incantations, I will finally defeat Malenia!
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>>486659328
Dragons are fine, ANCIENT dragons however are the fucking worst.
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>>486659176
I think its cause the projectile is lightning and lightning is supposed to be super fast in the lore or something.
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>>486659487
Idk I guess my perception was skewed because one time I threw Gransax at Radagon and HE SMACKED IT OUT OF THE FUCKING SKY AND THEN CHOKE SLAMMED ME. Wonder how he reacts to KLS, gonna have to test that.
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>>486659328
This is the "remember THAT part" of the DLC when I remember what I have to go through to fight bayle (even if its optional im assuming you need it for based igon)
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My sincere wish for this series is that for the next game, they reduce the co-op to 2 players only.

These games are really, really bad when you have 3 players going up against the PvE. Everything just fucking dies without putting up a challenge. Being able to switchtargets mid combo and mid animation doesn't help any of the non-hardcore bosses at all. As soon as 3 players exist in the game, the enemies just fucking melt away effortlessly.

I'd love to just spend all weekend doing co-op with randos, but everyone insists on summoning two players. I can be the host myself and only summon one person but then I am forced to play one character at a time constantly.

It seriously tanks the replay value for me by days, if not weeks.
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>>486659371
No just annoying as fuck because the best way to fight is wait out them fighting each other before jumping in or just start the fight right away and now have 2 giant insta kill flame hitboxes covering the arena instead of just one. you're stupid as fuck
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>>486659601
Oh radagoy will probably still parry it, though I havent tested. Pretty sure his parry works different from the usual enemy input read dodges.
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girls are so annoying
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>>486659693
I don't say this lightly, but you might have to git gud anon. I entered the fray and beat them on the first try, constantly positioning myself so their flames hurt each other and getting my hits on the jagged dragon whenever I could.
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>>486659869
Fighting two dragons at once is the type of autism this series never should have devolved into pleasing.
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>>486659946
Maybe, maybe not.
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>>486658324
See
>>486657605
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FUCKER WITH A BAJILLION HEALTH GET WREEEECKED
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>>486659869
nigga Ive played through the fight 3 times dont try to deflect any discussion with your "git gud" bullshit
its not an interesting twist, they just copy pasted another drake onto the field. mixed set shitter.
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>>486659946
You're not supposed to fight both, you're supposed to let one kill the other and then bug out the AI by hiding behind rocks
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Anyone try a no horse run before? Was it fun?
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>>486660094
oh boy more walking
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>>486660031
>weathered straight sword and fucking sun realm shield
i… I KNEEL…
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>>486659869
Autism
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>>486660059
I know, but the autist I'm replying to insinuated that you can and should.
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>>486660094
You cant enter Leyndell without Melina sadly.
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The way Radahn seems to extend his arms like Mr Fantastic everytime he takes a swing is easily the worst part of the fight
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>>486659606
That one's not even necessary for Igon, it's the two that are fighting when you get to them that are. And you can let the actual fieldboss kill the mob, thereby weakening it a little, before engaging.
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>>486660158
No horse not no maiden.
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>>486660046
>its not an interesting twist
It's interesting enough considering they can damage each other, making positioning mattering more in the fight than the usual Elden Ring/Souls sort of fight. It's not Shakespeare, but I enjoyed the encounter.
>>486660153
If you think being better than you at something is autism I can't imagine your day to day life.
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>>486660094
I've done a no-fast travel, no-horse run before the DLC hit. It was alright. Do NOT recommend if you've played Elden Ring in the past 10 months. You need to drop the game for a while for the walking-sim to be anything near enjoyable.
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Is it just me or is anyone crashing sometimes when bayle takes flight
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Why did they bring back Radahn? Why did they ruin him like this? It's like some fan fiction shit. Wouldn't it be epic to fight Gwyn in his prime garbage.
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>>486660031
>square off
Didn't beat him
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>>486660212
Its a package deal
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>>486660187
>it's the two that are fighting when you get to them that are
thats what we're talking about
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>>486660273
Bayle has so many particle effects and explosions going on that he's almost guaranteed to crash your shit if you look at him too long. He genuinely feels like a modded in boss.
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>>486660329
it doesnt even do that much and i bet you need like 3 full heavy square offs just for a poise break and if he does his gay ass meteor jump to stall and reset his poise then you're getting fucked
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>>486660342
That's a picture of the one by the entrance to the dragon area though, there's no water in the arena with the two fighting ones.
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>>486660301
No
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>>486660301
okay, what does it look like when charged?
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I can't believe Aris is using parry.
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>>486660301
Yes but not that soulless copy
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>>486660332
Just cause she gives me the horse doesnt mean I have to use it.
>>486660265
I ask cause ive never really fought any of the overworld setpieces, like the stormveil gate for example. No fast travel seems like a bit much for me though.
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>most iconic pose in the game is Marika crucified, seen of countless statues
>can’t get a gesture of it
That’s fucking dumb
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>>486660329
What ash would you have used instead
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>>486660462
who?
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>>486660407
that one doesnt have a boss health bar. go look at it
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Marika had Maliketh
Ranni had Blaidd
Miquella had Torrent.

What about Malenia?
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>>486660423
This
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>>486660475
>hold on let me just crucify myself
this ain't fortnite man.
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>>486660475
Honestly, the no-horse playstyle is something you should have done on the first playthrough. It's hard to recommend on subsequent plays, since you may be actively aware of the fact that there's nothing but a fucking mushroom or flower in a 3 mile radius of wherever you are. If you ever try it, I recommend strolling around in Liurnia Lake at night and not in the daytime. Very nice colors.
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>>486660558
Miquella because he abandoned her like a savage heartless beast.
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>>486660519
Oh! You're right. My bad, I was mistaken.
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>>486660453
Like this.

>>486660473
The moveset of the DMGS is very lacking.
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>>486660558
Miquella's shadow wasn't torrent it was the putrecent knight before it became corrupted. Malenias shadow was the wandering swordsman who trained her, he died fighting the rot god
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I discover a new move by Radahn everytime I get close to killing him. Genuinely, I am amazed at the detail put in.
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>>486660558
The one who taught her how to fight.
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>>486660840
I just got pissed honestly when he did his new triple meteor barrage and it just killed me.
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>>486660778
I did the entirety of Limgrave and Liurnia no warp and no Torrent my first playthrough. I got pretty sick of it, but for a while the game was really something special.
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y'know, after grinding some levels so I could stop wasting Larval Tears to try new builds, I feel like the skill requirements are high enough that they detract from the game. It's fucking awesome swinging a big sword in one hand while casting holy spells and buffs from the left hand.
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>>486659367
Good for copy pasta. Bad for bait.
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How do you do MOTG without torrent I thought you needed to use a spiritspring.
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>>486660301
>>486660423
>>486660473
>INT/ARC trash
Not even close
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>>486660916
i really hate from putting all these one shot moves that the boss almost never does or is flat out scripted to happen at low health. such a cancerous unfun way to just shit on players because miyazaki is so obsessed with making the games le epic gamer challenge now
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>>486661021
Sorry but I genuinely believe this and will not be copy pasting it (personally, feel free tho)
Would you perhaps like to counter argue?
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>>486660916
Just seems weird for a guy who kills you in 3 hits anyway to have so many moves.
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>>486661186
Demons' Souls.... home....
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>>486660992
>It's fucking awesome swinging a big sword in one hand while casting holy spells and buffs from the left hand.
Yes, yes it is. You feel like a GOD when you pair big weapon plus spells/incants.
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>>486661186
but arc was cool in bloodborne
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>>486661253
genuinely why can't we get more games like it?
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>>486660802
>The moveset of the DMGS is very lacking.
Because is a sidearm meant to be paired with carian sword sorceries for maximum effectiveness.
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Does this ash combo in pvp? I never thought about using it.
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>>486637202
>Blocks you
I don't get it.
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>>486660301
>>486660423
>>486660473
>>486661186
Move over for the REAL best moonlight, kids.
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>>486661202
>>486661247
Rellana's moon move too, that fight is really good but holy shit that's such a troll move
>two moons appear
>"ok they'll probably shoot at me like rennala's and ran-"
>they fucking go down
>combo'd
>next attempt you jump them and get a free opening which will probably win the fight for you
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>>486661258
>>486660992
What levels anons? I'm ready to have fun now.
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BB > ER > DS3 > DS1 > DeS > DS2
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>>486661258
mixed set shitter
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>>486661498
I'm >>486661258 and my guy is RL200, you can definitely do it at much lower RLs though if that's your thing. Grab the FKGS for FTH builds or the RKGS (or any magic infused colossal sword really) for INT builds and have a party.
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>>486658010
It wouldn't be so bad if ER didn't rely so hard on misdirection and fakeouts. IME, it doesn't really make the game harder by the end. It just makes the learning phase of each fight more tedious navigating all the annoying gochas. When you finally do have it all memorized, you're just dancing around them like normal. I really hope they dial it back in the next one.

It is genuinely shocking that Saint of the Bud has that lens flare telegraph on that one attack. Sometimes it got me anyway simply because I expect her to draw it out even more in the heat of the moment.
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My only regret getting summoned for Bayle is that co-opers don't get to hear Igon screaming his hatred at the dragon.
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Finally killed Radahn with a mutual kill. Thank God From lets you take so long to die
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>>486661551
i have no idea which is whichi
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>>486661592
>Physical defenses are all at ~35% unbuffed without skibidi
>Shoots up to ~80% with all that shit
>51 poise
What's the problem anon? Are you upset because you're not very good at fashion and getting decent stats? I'd be glad to help.
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>>486657649
It LITERALLY says that that specific sword was received before he stopped the stars. The "Radahn stopped Miquella's fate" was just a theory to explain why Malenia fought Radahn and doesn't matter anymore now that we have the real, much stupider reason
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>>486661353
I still want to know if you're that midlander
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>>486661730
your toon looks ugly and the fact that you dont wear a helmet because you just need to show off your 500 hours in character creation ass face is embarrassing. stop mixing armor sets is a good first step to recovery.
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>>486658010
Elden Ring is unique in this regard. Even Bloodborne had it so the level was actually part of the game instead of something you move through to get to the boss. DS3 too, even fucking Sekiro.
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>>486661328
The alignment system in that game was good.
So was having a hub world where you jump to different dungeons from it.
All great systems that From abandoned. Well I guess the Nexus kind of made a come back in Bloodborne, but it still wasn't the same.
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>>486661894
>The alignment system in that game was good.
no it wasnt. next bait
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>>486661645
i turned off the stake for bayle because i kept on getting summoned by retards with <5 scadu lvls
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>>486661820
I use that crown for stats mainly, it just fits the outfit nicely. You do realize the Circlet of Light is actually really good, right? 5 poise for only 1 unit of weight, solid defenses for said weight (roughly 3.0 across the board), +1 INT/FTH/ARC and increases damage of Miquella incants 10%. It's not just a fashion statement.
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Velvet Veil or Spellbound? Which future from game are you most excited about?
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>>486661592
>>486661820
>noooooooooooo stop having fun.
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>>486661926
>your actions directly having consequences on the world itself as a game mechanic
I wish more games did that honestly.
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>>486661973
what's velvet veil?
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which armor is this
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>>486661973
chong wong king kong or whatever its called looks cool. after lies of p surprised me im willing to have a bit more faith now
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I don't like the new lore because it hits too close to home. A few years ago my brother killed himself because he became obsessed with an older taller guy, drugged him and recorded himself raping him and when someone discovered the vid the guy tried getting him arrested and he killed himself. I'm sorry for trauma dumping but I really don't think I can play elden ring anymore it reminds me of my brother
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>>486662016
That's a mod, a really ugly one.
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You guys never told me Thop's Barrier was good
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>>486662080
Hi Morgott
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>>486661592
What's wrong with set mixing? You specifically treat it as bad as race mixing
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>>486661993
Bloodborne Spiritual successor for PS5
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>>486662203
looks ugly. every time.
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>>486662080
Jesus. Go play the main game then
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>>486662169
It's been good day 1 and everyone's known about it.
>>486662203
he's a DS faggot who has ptsd from Havel Dads
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>milady
>trina repeated death bullshit
>logan beast claw

And so much more.

Does anyone else feel like Miyazaki is just spitting on fans?
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>>486661820
>>486661957
Holy rekt
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>>486662080
uhhhhh
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>>486662080
I could imagine malenia saying some shit like this in elden ring 2.
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What is the ARC equivalent of Blasphemous Blade / Darkmoon Greatsword?
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>>486662314
There's literally nothing wrong with any of this. You're telling me you can't laugh at the sword named "milady"? I feel like if you're genuinely offended that a sword MIGHT be named after a neckbeard fedora meme, it's because you feel personally attacked because you fit the bill of said meme.
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>>486662316
Who won? Top or bottom guy
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If you are not wearing the finger robe, regardless of build, you are not worth my time.
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>>486662463
Bottom guy, miquella crown is low key one of the strongest hats in the entire game, other guy thought it didn't do anything and was just for looks.
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>>486662436
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>>486662436
No not at all. More wondering if Miyazaki is just tired of the fantasy dweebs and wanted to fuck with us cause he’s tired.
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>>486662606
I really don't think Mike Wazowski is privy to western meme culture bro.
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I got a bunch of upvotes for a message saying "why is it always friend?" in front of the Milady chest.
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If you are not wearing the full set, regardless of build, you are not worth my time.
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>>486662606
He did an interview recently where he said his ideal video game RPG hasn't been made yet so I don't think he's tired of anything except maybe dealing with his wife and child.
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>>486662686
Based full set chad
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>>486662682
most of my upvotes are from a finger but hole message right before the first golem in ruined forge lava intake
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>>486662686
We get it you're incredibly autistic. You do realize not every piece of equipment is part of a full set, right? In fact most aren't. Do these just not exist to you?
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>>486662652
You'd be surprised. Older people, and non-English people, can be surprisingly clued in.
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Deflective Hardtear and Guard Counters are MVP
Was fun actually getting good at quick countering all his fast melee combos for gorillon damage
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>>486662652
>>486662703
He also said he based miquella and radahns relationship on his and his wife's I really don't know what he meant by that
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>>486662703
Describe your ideal video game rpg in one paragraph anon.
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>>486662760
We get it you took a million screenshots of your toon to show off to your internet friends only to realize how ugly they are. Stop mixing pieces already, it'll help
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>>486661551
DS2 > BB > DeS > Sekiro > ER > DS1 >>>>>> watching paint dry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eating shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS3
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>>486643282
Stay mad, I muled items to myself to play trough ng with.
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>Mixes in fast and slow paced attacks to fuck with my sense of timing

Cunt
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>>486662832
Why are you avoiding my question?
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>>486661631
Saint of the Bud was a breath of fresh air, I wish all the bosses played like that.
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great runes should all be 50% less effective, but each new rune you get should give its effects to Godrick's so it feels like you're actually building up your collection and growing stronger.
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>>486662832
You're the only one sperging about set mixing. Or miscesetation
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>>486644119
>Burial Blade or Kos Parasite being basically NG+ only
Bro? Your chalice dungeons?
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Do the generic communion incants have a better fp/damage ratio?
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>>486662951
that's not a bad idea
the great rune system was really bad
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>>486662951
That's cool lorewise but boring for gameplay, no thanks. Also you're forgetting that Godrick isn't even a mandatory boss and is very easily skipped.
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>>486663039
Insane hyperslut type B, show us the front please
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What are your wishes for Elden Ring 2?
I want Torrent replaced with a little Wind Waker style ship and the setting be a chain of tropical islands.
And more importantly I want a Suikoden style base building where you can find a ton of NPC's to recruit for your castle and each NPC moving in to your place unlocks a new feature for your HUB.
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>>486663054
great runes and crafting, I have over 3k hours in this shitty game and 99% of it is spent ignoring these systems completely.
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>>486662994
*rapes you*
Silence Blackie, no one likes chalice dungeons except for the leveling one.
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>>486662994
Any finger robes dual wielding ringed finger chads pocket casting cherishing fingers with maternal staff here?
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>>486663116
I don't want more Elden Ring. I want the fucking Dark Soul narrative style to fucking die off. I want they to part with the retarded pvp. I want a true single player game experience
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>>486663039
yes, the named ones cost 25-50% more for 18% more damage
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>futilely combing over sheets to see if anything can really beat the iron greatsword for mag or cold infusion
>literally the only thing worth considering is Queelign's Greatsword because the natural fire lets you chain frostbite
i will simply have to accept that iron greatsword is the king of stat sticks if I need a stat stick for an AOW that can only be used with swords
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>>486663104
make him mandatory, he has the based rune. also runes are already boring.
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>>486662840
>Sekiro
>Moonlight Greatsword
Uhhhhhhh the Divine Dragon doesn't count
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>>486663153
crafting is fine, the problem is just that most of the items are useless
crafting pots and arrrows is good though
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>"You are in fact me... And I am the dung eater"
What did he mean by this? Am I the dung eater?
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>>486663039
Figure it out yourself
>Dragonfire and Glintstone Breath will consume 96 FP
>Dragonice and Rotten Breath will consume 104 FP
>Agheel and Smarag will consume 144 FP
>Borealis and Ekzyke will consume 156 FP
The named ones cost about ~50% more. Use them both and see if the named ones hit about 50% harder.
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>>486663271
He's just ranking the games in general.
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>>486663223
>the natural fire lets you chain frostbite
it doesn't
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He means I eat ass.
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>>486662314
>Milady
If this weapon wanted to reach meme status it should of actually been good.
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resetting frost is such a meme. do you guys seriously do that?
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>>486663173
I like them. Not for the content of course, but for allowing me to get late game and NG+ items very early. Without them BB is basically unplayable. Also I'm white.
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>>486663325
I'd rather just buy a stack of 999 of them with all my pointless runes.
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So know that the Elden Ring DLC is out. What is the easter egg for the next game?
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>>486663413
I don't care that it's bad it's flowy and elegant as fuck.
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>>486663449
>I'm white
Show butt or you're lying
>>486663457
Wizard shit. Wizard game
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>>486663438
There's no good way to do it right now, so yes it's a meme currently. If they fix the new ghostflame ash though you'll be able to do it and have it be viable.
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>>486663457
shaman village
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>>486663495
>Elden Ring is a faith game
>Next game (Spellbound) is a magic game
I believe it
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Do you guys think that the area you fight The Mother of Fingers is underneath where you fight The Elden Beast?

The fingers and greater will are connected, but more importantly you see water as the roof of The Mother of Fingers arena as well as large root things sticking down.

Then in the Elden Beast arena, the floor is water and there's large trees sticking up out of the water floor.

It seems too coincidental.
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>>486663457
The final boss being fags, next game will be an orlando nightclub simulator.
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>>486663438
yes i have cheetoh pebbles on my bar
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>>486663553
the fire pebbles are really cool at first but the start up is fucking insane
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Elden Ring is a prequel to Dark Souls. Those that live in death are the precursor to Hollows. Source? My asshole.
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People need to stop with this Spellbound meme. The "leak" had literally ZERO evidence or reason to believe it. It's not real. Compare it to the AC6 leaks where we got actual fucking pictures of the game to corroborate it. Every time one of you mentions Spellbound you're just showing how much of a retarded lemming you are for falling for that shit.
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>Chester teased BB
>Yamamura teased Sekiro
>Millwood warriors teased ER
Who is the teaser for the next game?
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>>486663629
I believe it, comes from a reputable source.
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>>486663567
Maybe we could size them up and see if they overlap each other
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>>486663495
>>486663563
>Game where int builds have a bias
So I'll end up going faith then like the insufferable hipster I am.
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>>486663109
It's Sellen but brown, you can figure out the rest
>>486663219
>>486663341
Thanks
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>>486663678
This, that shit is fake as fuck and you're all sheep
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>>486663678
Elden Ring was leaked years ago under the name of "Great Rune" though
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>>486663792
And? Tomorrow I could post a new leak stating their new game is called Brickhouse and your dumb ass would believe it without evidence? The Spellbound "leak" had NOTHING to support it.
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>>486662824
Elden Ring but the level design matters as discussed here:
>>486661826
>>486658010
With interesting NPCs and story choices. I've maintained since ER's release that it's a great skeleton of a greater video game. The fact that we can't actually side with the Volcano Manor is ridiculous in what is an "RPG". Melina barely having any relevance is annoying, etc. we all know these things.
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>>486663891
People said the same thing about Great Rune years ago too
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>>486663912
Go play BG3 or something you faggot
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>>486664236
I don't want to play BG3. I want Elden Ring, but with Dark Souls level design, and actually interesting NPCs and story choices. Or do you think uninteresting NPCs and lack of story choices are things to praise? Do you have an iq at all? Christ.
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>>486661820
>STOP MIXING SETS!!!!
No.
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>>486660094
Turn your brain on before posting. Why on earth would having to slog through all the open world areas on foot be fun?
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>>486664306
Nobody plays these games for the npcs or story choices but action rpg combat and exploration
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>>486664448
>"Nobody plays these games for the npcs or story choices but action rpg combat and exploration"
>When NPCs and story choices are one of the biggest criticisms FromSoft gets, even from normies
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>>486663891
She's a BRICK... HOUSE
She's mighty mighty letting it all hang out
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>>486663678
Fuck you. I want to believe.
I want to plow through mobs of corrupted yokels in eldritch Hogsmeade and clap Gryffindors in magickal death duels.
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This is literally the best spell in the game in every scenario. PVE it completely obliterates anything and in PVP it also just obliterates anything while also having insane tracking and filling up your screen so you cant see anything.
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>>486664448
I'm not asking for the moon anon. Every game before Elden Ring had more compelling NPCs and choices to make. That you'd rather not have these things or are uninterested in them is a genuine shock.
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This argument is such a weird cope to deflect criticism of modern Fromsoft storytelling
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>>486664568
Yeah and it's gonna get nerfed into the floor so enjoy that cheese while you can.
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>>486664568
does the communion seal scale its bleed?
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>I'm not asking for the moon anon. Every game before Elden Ring had more compelling NPCs and choices to make. That you'd rather not have these things or are uninterested in them is a genuine shock.
You never played the older games
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New game leaked, codename so far is "CHUCK'S" in From's internal communications
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>>486664769
You can't cast it with seals retard, it's a sorcery. But yes the ARC scaling staves do scale it's bleed.
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>>486664630
>>486664780
>I'm not replying to you! Hmph!
Everytime people do this I imagine they're tsundere anime girls with their arms crossed in front of their petite chests as they pout and furrow their brows.
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>>486664780
Older than Demon's Souls? I haven't. But the others? I have. Nobody in Elden Ring is half as interesting as Sieglinde/Siegmeyer, Dusk of Oolacile, Laurentius, Lautrec, Ingward, etc. Nobody in Elden Ring is half as interesting as Maughlin, Lucatiel/Aslatiel, Vengarl, the Majula blacksmith, fucking Vendrick and Aldia, etc. I don't think I need to bring in DS3, let alone Bloodborne, let alone Sekiro.
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>>486663912
>siding with volcano manor
That would mean bending the knee to Rykard. The whole plot is that you become Elden Lord.
>no i mean i want to get rid of grace and the erdtree
Try any non-golden order ending, or any golden order ending but headcannoning the values of next order to reflect those of You Comma the Player. It's kept intentionally vague for this reason.
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>>486665052
Baka! Humbug!
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>>486665052
>tfw no flat tsundere to argue about the decline of fromsoftware game design with
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Mix sets, it shows creativity and when done right looks better than full sets.
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>Dude i want The Witcher 3 but with Elden Ring Combat!!!
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>>486665189
Based.
>>486665172
>The whole plot is that you become Elden Lord.
Frenzied Flame Ending anon. But that isn't the core of what I'm driving at. There is an unexplored substory of Volcano Manor vs the Roundtable, and that's a shame.
>but headcannoning the values of next order to reflect those of You Comma the Player. It's kept intentionally vague for this reason.
Oh believe me I understood this, and I even kind of like it. But as I said, their previous games had more interesting NPCs and choices. I want those things put back. Their previous games had more interesting level design. I want those things put back.
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>>486664306
I agree, Elden Ring has a ton of glaring repurposed content with it's characters and story. It makes it nauseating to try and engage with the lore. Something needs to happen with FROM / Miyazaki to make them stop fucking second guessing themselves and commit to their first drafts because I'm tired of the DS2/DS3 frankenstein's monster shit they keep pulling.
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Spellbound is real
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Elden Ring is real
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Project Beast is real
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>>486664780
Name 1 single NPC from Elden Ring (or DS3 for that matter) more interesting than him
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>>486665398
source?
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>>486665271
No, I'm going to wear the Samurai starter set until I beat Radahn, then put his hat and armor on for the rest of the playthrough, just like 2 million other players, because I am a mouth breathing normie.

You're just mad that I eat the bugs like a good little shill.
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>>486665371
>The eclipse stuff with Lothric in DS3 was put back in the toolchest - DS3 has an eclipse, but it's not this large event it could have been
>More eclipse stuff is hinted at in the snow fortress in Elden Ring's base game
>Ends up being put in the toolchest AGAIN
What did they meeeeeean by this?
>>486665489
He won't be able to.
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>>486665489
My wife Ranni
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>>486663686
Verdigris Set teasing a Roman Era aesthetics game.
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>>486665642
>His wife
Ohoho
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Their children, and their children's children.
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Kos or Kosm?
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Sellen's big stone head and giant clown feet.
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>>486665848
Yes please.
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>>486664849
Is this a joke I'm not getting?
If not give me a source on the deets.
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>>486663553
what's the issue with ghostflame breath?
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>>486666007
Might be connected to a leaked internal memo that mentioned a "SNEED'S"
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Spellbound actually makes sense just because any assets, ideas, and new magic related mechanics they make for that game can just be recycled. It would serve as a building block for all their future Souls games like BB and Sekiro.
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I've used CE but not the big CE table. Does it have a button that just gives you every weapon/armor piece that is dropped by an enemy? I don't wanna go through them all individually.
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>>486666749
>Raya Lucaria but the whole game is like that
Kino
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>>486666821
the main ER CE table has itemgib for individual items and mass itemgib to give you every item of one category
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why is white mask almost exclusively used by people who are terrible at the game?
its fallen knight set all over again
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>>486663678
B-but I really wanted to see From make a 18th century Europe-inspired arcane punk game with cool parade uniforms and wacky magical contraptions used as weapons =(
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>>486666956
it's the meme build that was strong when the game came out so people will always think it's broken, and it's iconic and recognizable
white mask bullgoat rivers of blood is the giantdad of elden ring
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>>486667393
giantdad is not a good build, you're thinking of havelmom
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>>486666956
youtube niggers
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>>486667486
Except it was, because the average person didn't know about toggle escape
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>>486667486
white mask bullgoat isn't really a good build anymore either, that's the point
it's just a noob stomper
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Bullgoatse is the proper term
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>>486667549
so is rob
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>>486667645
rob isnt good anymore period
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>>486648805
>Get called out for being retarded
>Muh racism
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>>486667687
lol
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>>486667486
giantdad was an autowin against anyone who didn't know toggle escape
which was the majority of people
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>>486666956
but fallen knight set looks cool
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>>486667645
RoB really isn't good anymore, no
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>>486667772
i wasnt talking about looks
but true white mask is both ugly and a bad player flag
so very ugly
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>>486667864
I'll destroy you right now with White Mask on, chinaman.
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>>486667862
lmao
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>>486666043
It's not ghostflame breath, it's ghostflame call, an ash of war. Learn to read man.
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>>486667864
That's the way it should be. All metafags should be marked as such.
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>>486668092
>>486668092
>>486668092
>>486668092
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>>486637715
frankly it has been very heartbreaking seeing so many good Miq and Mal artists being sad at the end of the dlc, some of them straight up not drawing the characters anymore.
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>>486668196
>fujos and incestpedos got fucked over
>this is somehow a bad thing
?
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>>486668261
They have talent, you don't. That's what matters.



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