Dog(?)fight Edition>Stuff1d6chan -https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War:_Warhammer/TacticsRoll Charts -https://imgur.com/a/81snQma>Total War: Warhammer IIISteam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142710/Hotfix 5.1.1 Notes:https://community.totalwar.com/wh3-hotfix-511What's Next:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fix3FvsmplA>Total War: Pharaoh DynastiesSteam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2951630Total War: PHARAOH - Dynasties Overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6erHiCuh1tQDynasty system and new royal traditions and gods: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-pharaoh/blogs/26Total War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Map Expansion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJHre9auMY0Total War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Mesopotamia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZIfaNNlCITotal War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Aegean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApDwFGUB4DcTotal War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Campaign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gOQytqYgsTotal War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Battles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDsYyr4SJYSoundtrack Available: https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/1816488603935244463>Older TitlesSteam:https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-Official/previous thread: >>487614134
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Kislev
Am I the only one that misses lord duels in Pharaoh?Is there a way to have them back
>>487835186Still haven't haven't finished a Kislev campaign, their LLs suck and three-quarters of their roster being OOPS ALL HYBRIDS makes them super bland to play
>>487835680Neither have I. I just like posting bears.
>>487835547Nah it was cringe. Main reason why 3K is cringe.
There will be no alliance with rats while I'm high xxxx!
>>487835615If you are so afraid of pharaoh posters will you kill yourself when 40k takes over and fantasois will be pushed to the trash bin of history where they belong?
>>487835186>>487835680I only play Kislev for Kat
Every pro skaven rat post in this thread delays Thanquol dlc by a month.You better not do it!
Asrai
>>487836139>pharaohjannyDeluded fantasoi sees histoids at every turn.
>>487836339Funny that. I only play Azazel for Kat and Miao
>>487837278built for my small, white, human cock
>>487837278Bladesingers are so pretty
Shades with greatsword or double swords?
SQVIRE stop posting your butterface girl and bring me the breastplate stretcher!
>>487835048I really hate Cathay
>>487839252y?
https://youtu.be/LNK5-uE5JFg?si=G7Qv6oL0i6Kw_Fwdhttps://youtu.be/n1AkcqsAQsY?si=Lj7VRipJscm8Xvkkhttps://youtu.be/hfORh9cFDU8?si=8K35vmz7RZcRZeh0heretical bonushttps://youtu.be/ypgltnMSTvw?si=ypJ2FowuVlRP9ddm
>>487839302Hate their aesthetic hate fighting them hate their starting location hate navigating that shit hole just hate them in general
>>487838950But my lord, there is no such thing as a "breastplate stretcher"!
>>487839332https://youtu.be/hg4hXhogGYM
>>487839332>>487840653total war?
>>487835680The fact that their roster was all hybrid was fun and set them apart from everyone else.It was a huge mistake for the DLC to give them a bunch of dedicated melee units and a dedicated archer.People really sleep on their sleds too. It's probably their most powerful units. It's a ranged chariot unit that can fuck up chaos warriors in extended melee
>>487839332He who calls it TCA with me shall be my brother.
The fact that the wood elves are presented as ostensibly neutral and have missions for fighting order races but ALWAYS end up in the order tide by mid game annoys me more than it has any right to.Also never seen them jave good relations with dark elves, even though they have dedicated tech for it, because it comes so late that they're guaranteed to have spent forever fighting Morathi.
>>487836009Total Skaven Death
>>487841619Lmao
>>487841814Its such a tiny thing but it annoys the fuck out of me.
SHOOT THE LIVING
THERE WERE NO GUNS IN THE BRONZE AGE.TWG IS A BRONZE AGE GENERAL.THEREFORE THERE ARE NO GUNS ITT.THEREFORE YOU CANNOT SHOOT THE LIVING.KILL YOURSELF HARKON.
>>487841619>wood elves are presented as ostensibly neutralThey actually aren't truly neutral. They're at best like those pseudo-fence shitters who pretend to go "both sides are bad!" until their actual preferred side (in this case Order) is attacked, at which point they help to defend it. Sure, they will kill random Bretonnians and Imperials for no reason, but Bretonnians, Dwarfs and Imperials also kill each other for no reason constantly. They are neutral in that they would mostly prefer to keep to their forest, but if the order factions near them fall they will be replaced by Chaos or undead, in which case they're also fucked so they have to help.
>>487841619I've just been playing a Heralds od Ariel campaign and pretty much eradicated the Dark Elves from Naggaroth. Morathi, Lokhir Fellheart and Malekith are gone.I don't think I would even have had the time to research the tech that would provide better relations with the Dark Elves -even if I had prioritised it- before ending up at war with Naggarond. and neighbouring DE factions. The Wood Elf tech/research chain weird too. Surprised they didn't make it look like a tree with different branches tbhwy.
Slaanesh being made to wait last to get their DLC seems daft seeing how fucking badly they need it more than KhorneEven in the lategame all they can throw at you is stacks of light infantry, light cav, and armored buys with no biteBut I can't think of any units they could actually get that would let their stacks actually be scary. If anything I just wish they'd drop the stupid arbitrary limits on which god's chaos warriors/chosen can have halberds or great weapons
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3278112051&searchtext=This seems pretty promising I wonder how crash heavy it is though.
we pulled up at mortis deltawe will pull up in your dumbass middle east shithole
>>487842651I want the Slaanesh DLC, but I think they have to use cult of pleasure army list to fill enough unit slots, so they will get (renamed?) Shades. I just think those will obsolete all daemons.
>Imperial Dwarfs>Dwarfs that live in the EmpireAre there Bretonnian Dwarfs?
>>487843041aiding manlets goes against the chivalrous code
>>487843041No, because Dorfs don't have an ancient pact of battle-forged allyship with Brets
>>487835547single entities are the worst thing to happen to total war and im glad they are gonethank fuck agents on the map are gone aswell
>>487843274Pharaoh doesn't have agents? Yikes
a real shame Penthesilea got cutI really love me some tomboys, Amazons will be missed
>>487843041>>487843263There is.There's also Kislevian dorfs
>>487843381its the first thing i mod to any total war game i play so its a welcome changeyou can pay shekels to spy on enemy territory but no bullshit moving around on the campaign map
>>487843381neither does 3K and I hope we never have to see the agents on the map system on historical games ever again
>>487836339Based
>game without luthor harkon
>>487842651Khorne sucks hard as fuck. It is the least functional of the demon races. Their dual axe infantry trade poorly with basically any equivalent tier infantry, and get dunked on by dedicated infantry fighters like greatswords.Bloodletters trade poorly with units on LOWER tiers. With their one saving grace being their armor piercing attack, which is only a saving grace because Khorne is fucking gagging for armor piercing.They also have no magic, "made up" for with being able to summon a unit of bloodletters.... sometimes. Khornes main benefit is skarbrand being a fucking beast who can beat entire stacks on his own, and their heroes being pretty strong.
Kholek or N´kari
>>487843041Reminder that an average dwarf considers an imperial dwarf to be a disgusting outsider
>>487842673Never seen it cause by crashs although it could spazz out with you not getting any more RoRs after the first one. That might be fixed now and with the mod configuration tool integration you can adjust things now too.
>>487844846The biggest dwarven hold is A̶n̶k̶h̶m̶o̶r̶p̶o̶k̶h̶ altdorf
Turn 255and I'm still having fun~RN I yam helping my frens~
I heard the Habiru are actually ancient Hebrewsnow question is, why are the Jews such top-tier shock infantry?
>>487845384White man here. Would definitely impregnate both of those jewesses.
>>487842557I don't even think the tech makes uo for their dark elf aversion.I don't know, I feel like they should at least be neutral to the dark elves. They're big mad at the high elves, their main beef with the dark elves is that they're not wood elves and that Morathi is a cunt. But the average dark elf agrees om that second point.>>487842313It makes sense they prefer order to chaos. But Durthu usually ends up allied to dwarves and humans and fighting greenskin and ogres and like... why would he give a shit?
What the actual fuck? How do they come up with this shit?
Let me build armies without generals in the next game please CA
>>487845459Jew women are the best argument against anti-Semitism, so it's understandable
Saw a cloud that looked exactly like a noble sea turtle today. What does this mean from a Bronze Age perspective?
>>487845384but they told me israelis are whitethey look pretty fucking dark to me
>>487846367They vary ALOT
>>487819150They can't bro. Chariots are basically just very fast cannons/trebuchets/catapults. Exact same base implementation. They have to redesign them from the ground up to work properly, and they McFreakin' won't.
Where should I invest skill points when it comes to lords? blue skill line? spells? or boost units? I guess boosting lord stats like attack, defense etc is the worst choice?
>>487846367you thinking of askhenazi jews
>>487846475I usually start by taking just the first blue talent then if my lord is a mage I start going through that. For Melee lords I focus on red line first.
>>487846547>>487846414when they portray the muh israel vs palestine conflict they put isralies as the white sideso the majority of israel is white?
>>487845662>dare you enter my magical realm
>>487846724like 2.5 million out of israels 10 million population is ashkenazi (european descent)
>>487846367Israelis like to pretend they're a separate race but that's bullshit, they all mixed with natives wherever they migrated toIsraelis that came from the USSR or ram away from uncle Adolf are basically White, those who came from the Middle East after the muslims gained independence are indistinguishable from Arabs and the ones who came over from Ethiopia are pretty much just circumcised East Africans
/twg/ - Israeli Demographics
>>487846962>you can't discuss lore because... you just le can't!
>>487846475depends :)
>>487846932>>487846914WAIT BUT IF BOTH SIDES ARE NOT WHITE THEN WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I CARE
>another /twg/ thread derailed by Israel and PalestineWeird that this keeps happening even after the jannies started purging discussion of it itt.Why not talk about Total War? What is a Total War game that you constantly think about playing but never do? For me, it's Empire, I keep thinking about playing it but I never bother because it doesn't have borderless windowed
>>487848113Red line first, then the LL specific line, then yellow.
>>487848615you care?I care about the Ukraine war because it's right over the border and the consequences of that do matter to my country and the Union in general, but honestly the Israel thing is about as important as the Burmese civil war or the Sudanese conflict I mean yeah sucks to be you but it really isn't our problemTotal War: Dynasties.
>>487849074Must have been quite the hassle to make that armor back in the day.
>>487846660>>487848741so blue line is considered bad? I always did it first for casaulty replenishment and upkeep reduction. >>487848113vampire count lords for example
you always go full combat on legendary lords, fuck buffing units or some boring bullshit
>>487849413the problem isn't casting the armour itself, the hard part was importing copper from Cyprus and tin from Afghanistan Bronze is apparently quite easy to work with
>>487849441It depends really. I don't think it's necessary to get early on. Later on getting some of the things in there are good.
>>487849540Unit buffing made sense in Warhammer 1 but with ward saves and resistances it makes more sense to turn every LL into a beatstick.
>>487849441Blue line is really amazing for wood elves, ambush chance and razing gold.
>Playing Malakai>Decided to wait for the first grudge event before declaring war on anyone>Event wants me to go to war with fucking Roppsmen Clan>I have NAP and trade with them>Ignore it, declare war on Throt>Next turn Throgg declares warI hate the retards at CA so fucking much holy shit. How hard is it to code an event to check relations/treaties/borders?
I want to get Pharaoh as my historical title but I hate how there is not cav in the game. What the fuck? Were people back then too retarded to ride a horse? I was riding horses when I was 12
>>487849441vampire counts you might want a few points in basic spells early because they really rely on invocation and a bit on danse macabre as well as the casting bonusdepending on what heroes you start with or have available to recruit early you can have a necromancer do that for you instead then you can go with your unit buffs firstblue can be strong or weak depending on the faction but its generally less important than army buffs, spells, or buffing your fighting stats on a punchy lordcorruption for vampires can be helpful early on but after the numbers got axed the replenishment and upkeep aren't as worth three skill points and the points to get to the second rung as they used to be
>>487846962my interest in this is entirely driven by which factions i should exterminate first in pharaoh
>>487850191Assyria have Cavalry and modders may add the Amazons from Troy
bros what are some good duelist legendary lords
>>487849441first point of blue for movement bonusif your lord/hero can cast spells you go spellsif your lord cant cast spells you go for unique line or red depending on if the unique line is shit or not unlocked right awayas skaven or anal anar(?) you go a bit further into blue line because you get ambush chance bonus which works with stalking stance
>>487850191take your medsand chariots are better anyway
>>487850343MalusTyrion
Total War game and faction to play as if I love Ukraine?
>>487845662Yeah lets keep the stunty tech-creep reasonable
>>487850191People were taller than horses and stronger than horses back then. Diomedes was 2 and a half metres tall, weighted 200kg, and wore 100kg of armour.
>>487850636Empire, Prussia
>>487850215Tausret is the only confirmed antisemite in the game tho
>>487850191the entire goddamn point of this update was to add factions with cavalryboth assyria and babbylon have native unit cav and assyria also has their faction cavevery faction can get native mesopotamian cavalry if you go take some land there
>>487850636AttilaWREhold back the eastern hordes
>>487844609the based Champion of Chaos~not the cringe Order Lizardbrain~
>>487850713i played her on release and now im playing assyria for cavalry kino so i need the optimal semite removal route (after babylon gets whats coming for them)
>>487850735>goddamnBronze Age Citizen: Which God?
>>487850568>>487850735ok so greeks and egyptians were too stupid to ride a horse?
>>487850713Dear Bay is our greatest ally.
>>487851272horses were too small to be ridden, domestication takes time you retard
>>487851198the mockery of one true god ninurta shall be kept to an appropriate minimumactually marduk unlocked it yet
>>487851450average male height was like 160cm back then
>>487845662>>487850660Malaki what the fuck
>>487851039you start pretty close to them, just push west and show them Canaanites who's boss
>>487851540i dont know what the fuck happened to my spoiler
>OOOOH I'M SETTLING SO MANY GRUDGES
>>487851786Bicameral mind moment
>>487851543average height in Ancient Egypt was 170cm, and were more manlets than cavemen
>>487852037The pharaohs were super tall chads and chadettes though??
dwarfs or chorfs
>>487852189probably, they were nobility so it's not like they starved during childhood then again they were incest babies so maybe not
>>487850636Ogre Kingdoms
>>487852189because black people are taller on average
>>487851984craftsman needs only one shot raki
>>487852648Aye, one BIG shot
>>487852283The royal ladies were 6'+ delicious brown fitness models walking around naked in those mesh dresses.>inb4 sourceIt came to me in a dream.
>>487851984>fanfic Dawi crank gunnerscringe>canon ratling guns that fire concentrated Magicbased
after reading through a couple pages and posts, turns out I might just be too retarded to install Fallout London...Bronze Age faction for this feel?
>>487852828judging by the post, you came to that dream alright
>>487853179kek
so what are you guy's favorite factions in pharaoh?I'm finding ramsseses a bit dull
>>487852937Fanfic? This is GW approved, anon
There's too many systems in Pharaoh, did we really need so many when the UI is so annoying? Medieval 2 didn't have even a third of this, it's just too much.
why the fuck is Troy so expensive. They should have lower price like with Pharaoh. Game got like 1/4 of Pharaoh content
>>487853570Å uppiluliuma II I like the defender of civilization theme and I fucking love heavy chariots and heavy infantry
>>487850568Chariots don't work on this engine. They either ride though units unimpeded or they get stuck on a single infantry unit with no middle ground, and always totally break down when interacting with anything that isn't infantryThe fact that there is literally no interaction when one large unit attacks another worked back in empire, but it's become increasingly ridiculous as time has gone on. The fact that megadinos treat scout cavalry like an insurmountable obstacle should get this franchise laughed at.
Most lords have non-round numbers for health. Healthpools such as 8008 or 4288.Epidemius is good with number so his health pool is exactly 8000. I believe that is a first for Total War.
do ogres really eat people
>>487853719for me it's the early game that's absolutely atrociousevery backwater desert canaanite tribe has 2+ doomstacks right at the start
>>487854567no only chinese
Total War: Super Mario Brothers
A Total War map with a globe that you can travel around.
>>487852208Until you get to thunderbarges chorfs are still objectively more powerful in every category. Dwarves are more fun though, and their grudge mechanic is pretty fun (Although I would recommend the grudge cap mod. Since otherwise it becomes literally impossible to get the higher tier rewards by the middle of a campaign).
>>487853570chaos dwarfs (mesopotamia)
>>487854949>globelole, then the game would be fantasy, we already have Warhammer we don't need another fantasy game.
>>487855180Reminder that chorfs canoncially get Grimgored and Hashut himself jobs to Gork and Mork
>>487854542the reason for this is that CA does not train their interns at all so nobody told them every unit has a base health of 8 so its always a nice round number +8
>>487855404sauce?
>>487854567People, animals, monsters, each other. The maneaters are named so after Golgfag maneater, who takes offense to that name because while he does eat men he doesn't have a particular preference for them (He prefers halflings)
>>487855404>End Times sucks dickyeah we know
>>487854797>Shy Guy (red) DLC>Koopa (green) DLCFund it
>>487855404end times shitposting does not count
>>487855694that's fucked up, I thought ogres were almost good guys
Why are Total War: Pharaoh and Total War: Pharaoh Dynasties different games on steam?
I thought I would fall for another meme seeing as I really didn't like Troy and that everyone here was just shilling Pharaoh but I am actually having fun with it. I like all the new campaign mechanics and the battles somehow feel decent. Not perfect by all means but for 20€ it's quite an alright Total War title.
>>487855981To bypass user reviews of Pharaoh.
>>487855981Why are Warhammer 1/2/3 different games on steam?
>>487855981Probably because Dynasties is 40GB bigger than Pharaoh, that is bigger than the size of Shadow of the Erdtree.Also it allows CA to get accurate feedback on whether Dynasty is a success because all the good won't be weighed down by the bad of the original game, this will tell them what sort of size and scope a historical game needs for it to be successful.
>>487855404gork and mork are strongest gods thoughever
>>487855907You thought the big fat cannibalistic worshippers of a god called "The maw" were good guys?The ones led by people who voluntarily take the title "Tyrants"? The guys whose intro to the total war series is a song including the lyrics "They scream and they run, but that's part of the fun. Cus the ogres are coming to get ya"
>6700 ingamepretty good
>>487856980I mean compared to undead and evil elves and what not.
>pick faction in pharaoh >play 5 turns>pick another faction in pharaohWhy do I do this to myself
What is (your) tax policy?
>>487857371stupid fat nonce
>>487835186FOR DA GREAT ORTHODOXY!
>>487857371...were there orc babies? Aren't orca in tolkiens universe vat grown or corrupted elves or some shit?
>>487857371finish your books you fat bastard
>>487856416>3 different full gamesvs>a full game and a free update
>>487857608Tolki3n never really could decide, changes in his writing wether they were designed, vat-grown, corrupted elves or something else.
>>487855180>chaos dwarfs (mesopotamia)but chorfs have both elite infantry and cheap ass slaves, so either work
>>487854567Yes, Ogres are actually only "neutral" because they can fight on anyone's side if they're bribed. The shit they pull off because of their hunger is generally evil, they are worse and more cruel than Orcs (but less bad than Goblins).
>>487857371This guy is steadily becoming the fantasy book version of neil degrasse tyson
>>487857973Neil's a total sex pest too, really makes you think
>>48785737115% flat tax rate
How does combat in Troy feel compared to 3K and Pharaoh on base lethality settings?
>>487857610Too busy jerking off to scat
>>487857890the slaves arent chorfs though they are conquered from other races (atleast for the most part)
>>487857060For morality you should think of Ogres as essentially greenskin but they're having more fun.
>>487842651Don't care. Khorne is cooler. I want more Khorne.
nationwide public order for Alarielle or making her better with trees and just better in combat?
>>487835186>>487857517>Been reading Golden Kamuy lately>This makes me shit my pants
>>487858514the campaign bonus tree is better than the battle one.Same with Tyrion.
>>487857371Peasants own nothing. Including their own bodies. Their lord may take all if needed.
>>487857371taxes as low as I can afford to set them. high public works expenditurestrong social safety netlarge investments in productive capitallarge military that I send all over the globe
>>487858389Khorne is gay
It's interesting how for the next DLC with Khorne, Greenskins and Ogres, it's the Greenskins who are the least evil. I wonder how well it will do, aren't good/order races generally the better sellers?
>>487858631is this canon?
>>487858631Slaanesh is gay dumbass
>>487858589B-But there's ward save there...
>>487858682>it's the Greenskins who are the least evilAre they, though? Ogres might eat babies but is that really any worse than killing babies for fun?
>>487858682I don't really know if you can call the greenskin less evil than the ogres. The ogres will tear down a city because they got paid to or they thought it would be funny, greenstick do it out of spite.
>>487855868>DK DLC>Banjo DLC>Conker DLC>Rabbids DLc
>>487857608>>487857756no, Tolkien was pretty clear on that they breed by fucking. Only first generation of orcs were corrupted elves
>>487858794A turn saved on recruiting sisters of avelorn is the only thing that matters. It is literally the best elf unit. Not just high elf unit either.
>>487858682>I wonder how well it will do, aren't good/order races generally the better sellers?They're the most played. But this has nothing to do with DLC sales. People tend to just buy the DLCs as long as there is hype around them. Doesn't really matter what factions are in them.
>>487858875Greenskins do it for fun, they just love killing and destroying thingsThe ones that burn a city out of spite are the beastmen, their entire existence is seething about civilization
>>487857517Black bears punch emBrown bears spray em
>>487858694Yes.
>>487858354I meant chorfs are slave drivers like the Babylonians and employ elite low number infantry and cavalry like the Assyrians
>>487859071The goblins are definitely in this for spite man.
>>487859046>Best elf unitShades with 215 range doesnt say hello because you are already dead before you see them.
>>487859179Oh no no no Khorne bros? What is this?!
>This guy is 18 years oldMan, Canaanites age fast
>>487859179alright, whats a god for the straight man?
>>487859179>Hating Slaanesh so much you'll destroy his gift forever Based
>>487859312Shades are good. Shades lose to sisters every time.
>more people play first WH than Pharaoh after the big updateits so over
>>487858682Greenskins are entirely malicious and also employ torture commonly.
>>487859341Sigmar
>>487858827Ogres will eat them or boil them alive which is far worse. Orcs might do the same randomly, but will likely just kill immediately, so their aggression makes them create less suffering. I guess it depends on what Orc and what Ogre you encounter. Goblins are definitely far worse than either of the two though.
>>487859446>Shades lose to sistersWhat a bold faced lie. Shades always shoots first. They have looser formation and 2 shots per volley.
>>487859179I can understand Tzeentch being interested by the new chaos god but Nurgle has nothing in common with Slaanesh.
The Araby faction mod is so fucking well made. Even the voice acting is good. In terms of "build quality" this really is as good as it gets for a mod and with some more polish could rival a CA made faction , and in terms of how well the gameplay works it's better than some official factions (Ogres).And it's for a faction nobody gives a shit about.
>>487843041pretty sure there's a dwarf that managed to become a bretonnian lorddon't fucking know how that worksdoes he ride a horse? does he have peasants carry him around on a horse-shaped object? does he just walk?
>>487859748rides your mum lmao
>>487859642Sisters do explosive damage, have higher DPS and get a bunch of upgrades in campaign. You are simply wrong.
>>487859457You're getting desperate, Legendfag.
>Not even 7k on a newly released game Lmao
In the first year of Tudhaliya V's reign, he ambushed a great Assuwan army that sought to lay siege to the city of Gordium. Striking down the foes with the might of Tarhunna, the enemy was vanquished entirely.
YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME BUY DYNASTIES YOU FUCKING SHILLS AAAAAAAAH
>>487859881I think Sisters are better because daemons are everywhere but they do not have explosive damage.
>>487859334>warty old crocodile>18 years oldnani???
>Putting the plants vs zombies soundtrack on for the early drycha campaign
>>487859881I hope you were baiting. Read it and weep ASSur fag.
>Putting The Dark Knight ost on for the entire Eltharion campaign
>>487859341Slaanesh of course.>>487860140Are the shills in the room with us right now?
These Hunnic onagers are cancer. I just got my ass kicked trying to use a balanced army against hunns and everything got torn apart by the time I closed in.It's like CA understood the normal solution to horse spam is holding a position somewhere and countering with foot archers and spears, so they just gave every hunn army laser guided onagers to prevent that. So what are you supposed to do? Just spam more horses at them? infantry feels useless.
>>487854949weird that civ 4 did this but 5 and 6 just went back to a flat(cylindrical?) map
>>487860248Huh. I was pretty sure they did. That's entirely my bad then
>>487860590nah bro it's historically accurate the Huns were known for their highly advance siege corps
>>487860590Just do counter battery fire.
>>487859341Sotek
>>487860462Weird way to spell Alith Anar.Although the fact that people keep getting out of Eltharion's prison is sort of Arkham esque.
Is Daemon Prince ascension a meme? By that point the guy has his chaos dragon, which seems to make him far more formidable than what 'ascending' offers, on top of it halving his level and costing a shitload of souls
>>487861397Have you never watched Eltharion's dlc trailer?
>How do we differentiate Morathi from other dark elves.>I know, we'll give her easy access to a bunch of lightly armored fast moving flanking infantry. That will set her apart from the other dark elves.
Who the FUCK designed Nakai's "legendary" skill tree.
>>487861649Hilarious part is, you get Witch Elves from the same building chain.I say this again, someone at CA hates Dark Elves.
>>487861649Just give her a witch's hat instead.
>>487861619If you want to try them out, the Daemon Prince of Nurgle is literally Hitler.
>>487860432>+50 range>magicalVs>+8 missile dmg>-6 ap missile>+1 projectile>+10 accuracy>-2 penetration>worse calibrationThe range makes them more reliable whats the max range cause I know you can buff these to 215 or something. Either way both kneel to waywatchers
>>487862446You ascend Khorne and Nurgle princes out of lords who can't get flying mounts so they're both upgrades, especially Nurgle prince with the mortis engine aura. Undivided prince is about swapping armor and damage to MA/MD, physical resistance and spellcasting, he's also a smaller target than a dragon.
>>487862995Barely
>People are comparing ranged units in duel scenarios again instead of how they fulfil their intended role
i will tickle your inside with me cutlass
>>487861649daemonettes are really fucking good though unlike witch elves
Crazy to imagine life as a citizen of a Bronze Age city. Just the amount of gods you have to keep track of, and all their lore. They were basically the original lore spergs.
>>487860590Use SEM retard or just fight urban battle.
>>487861649Morathi should get all Daemonnet units including the chariots and seekers. Change my mind.
>>487863136Griffin is so small that it counts as monstrous cav rather than a monster
WTF I love ogres now
>>487863137They have the same niche. They're elite archers with armor piercing.
>>487863206This is literally the reason why society moved towards Monotheism. It's way easier.
>>487862995If you're playing Festus ascending nurgle lords is stupids because you want the buffs on your human infantry and you don't give a shit about flying.
Oh yeah and the Daemon Prince doesn't have this puppy
>>487863425That's not my point. My point is that you can't compare them in a duel. You should compare how well they kill different types of targets.Also they're not the same. Sisters are line archers. Shades are skirmishers.
>>487862816Low range on Shades actually dont matter unless you reveal them with a flying unit. You wont see the Shades before they start shooting.>-6 ap missileThey shoot 2 projectiles per volley, meaning they deal 6 base + 24 AP missile dmg.Waywatchers are bullshit OP i agree but i still think Shades wins because of stalk. Both shades and waywatchers will see and shoot eachother at the same time. Waywatchers cant shoot at their max range because they cant see Shades.
how is this a close victory?does shooting arrows count as casualties in this game as well?
there aren't really that many dark fortress locations for WoC to build in huhkind of makes me wish they had some pseudo herdstone shard gathering mechanic that let you put up fortresses at more locations or just let you build a fortress in province capitals like chorf towers
>>487863741nobody skirmishes with shades nigga they use shadowdart name of power and have an invisible line of archers with the highest range in the game
>>487863593You can get locus of virulence + paragon of decay + mortis engine from them and now that you have the mortis engine you can skill sorcerers of nurgle for pestilent aura which you can't get elsewhere.
>>487863934What are you talking about? All of Chaos wastes + Norsca + Racial capitals crawling with Dark Fortresses. And WoC doesnt even need more than 4 or 5 to steamroll everything.
>>487863785>Shades wins because of stalkanon waywatchers can move while shooting in any direction which will rape any unit in the game
>>487864293I am talking about a strict archer duel. What you dont get is, Waywacthers cant shoot a target they cant see. Stalking shades will always shoot at the same time as Waywatchers.
>>487859918kys kike shill, you can't even F12 properly you sad fuck
So, is Ramesses in Pharaoh the designated archer faction or are archers in Pharaoh just meant to be exceptionally strong? I ask because I've been playing for about 8 hours or so and all the battles have been very fast due to archers killing things quickly, but I'm not sure if it's because nobody wears armour in egypt or the medjay archers are that good
>>487863934Seriously? This isn't enough for you?
>>487864486stalking shades have to stand still while shooting at a moving target both of which see eachother at the same time
>>487864021Still not my point. Spawn a bastilladon, a great unclean one, chosen shields, chosen slaanesh shields (these have physical resist) and see whether or not Shades or Sisters or whatever kill these units faster. Try to make it fair by letting the long range unit actually utilise their range.Also seems a waste of unit flexibility to never use their skirmisher trait.
uh oh legendschizo's having a melty
>>487864632>half of the map has no dark fortressesHuh
>>487864703Both units get revealed at the same range tho thats what you are not understanding. I know WWs can shoot and move. But the second they move out of "reveal" range they cant shoot anymore. So its strictly a missle damage/accuracy/morale matchup. And idk if WWs or Shades win that im not sure. If Murderous Prowess kicks in WWs are fucked tho.
Elf dlc for Pharoah
>>487864632>can only build the shitty altars for half the mapgrim
Epidemius is a truly great lord.A slow but very strong combatant on the battlefield.Provides lots of physical resistance, ammunition and weapon strength to certain Daemons in his army.Improves growth and plagues on the campaign map.I can think of much worse legendary lords.
>>487864564archers are just very strong in general, Priam and Amenmesse are the archerfag factions
why is legend so unpopular among transfolk?
>>487865190>much worse legendary lords.name 1.
>>487864564You can equip any weapon you have available, I think they start Ramesses with a bow because he is young and they figure you will play it safe. Medjay archers were always good, but the new lethality is super overtuned for ranged. Nubia in far south Egypt is the dedicated archer faction, I'd hate to see what kind of sniping they are capable of.
he isn't, they love him, or atleast the schizo does, which is obviously evidence enough that Legend attracts trannies.
>>487864632>No reason to go south as valkia>No reason to attack the empire as festus>Azazel has little reason to attack all of kislev>No reason to fight elves ever>No diplomacy is worth it with other chaos until you're sure you have all their fortress buildings>For villitch its just wei yin, shang yang and nan gau everything else is worthlessAdmittedly it's a little weird for coc its more like micro campaigns
>>487865326Eltharion doesn't even get a dragon
Why are voloundites so bitter?And why do they hate Troy and whine about Greek factions being introduced to Pharaoh?
>n-n-nouh okay
>>487864632>fortress in nuln but not altdorfREIKLANDERS BTFO
>>487864798Yes anon, you build your strength in the north and then descend upon the southerners to wreak ruin and destruction
what's up with some of these AI armycomps?
Total War: Pharaoh: Dynasties.
>>487864632>No reason to attack
>>487865710I want to build an empire instead of being some dumbed down faction.
Do I mainly use militia units as meat shields as Assyria? Should I do the buddy system with them by having the units with good defense and high lethality go in with the militia?
>>487865778the AI has never been able to recruit sensible armies they just take whatever they have the turns and money for in the area
>>487865951Meant for >>487865473
>>487865473>No reason to *play as Valkia>No choice but to attack the empire as festus>Azazel have +60 rel with humans so he can grab fortresses in Norsca first>True. CA should add a Vortex landmark that gives infinite daemon units.>Only true for Archeon and Belakor>Just send another army west.CoC plays best on RoC map. Good campaign with teleports and a cool end battle.
Any LL that gives off the kill 7 billion people vibe?
>>487864495You lost.
>>487858993Not a super big tolkienfag but from what I remember his first design was melkor spawning orcs from stone. Following that they were corrupted elves, mellors own creations mimicking elves, corrupted humans etc. With humans having the issue that orcs met elves before humans were a thing.Big part with it was also wether or not orcs have souls and thus could be redeemed or just evil creatures.
>>487865970WoC's limited recruitment and path system honestly needs a bit more care than everyone else who can just train however of any unit they want on demand
>>487864748How can they skirmish if they don't have fire while moving
>>487864632dorf/skaven crisis must be the worst with all that open land
>>487865981I honestly just ditch bronze-tier units as soon as I can afford them and go for a mainly silver with three or four gold-tier units
>>487865006>both of which see eachother at the same time>Both units get revealed at the same range tho thats what you are not understanding
>>487865970WoC building Dark Fortresses and shrine settlements, allowing Norscan monkes unironically settle and flourish is already a stretch.You are trying to end all civilizations to basically kill the world. Play Chaos Dwarfs, Slaanesh, Nurgle if you want a chaos empire.
What do I do if my zombies are Brettonian nationalists?
Wh2 woc horde gameplay was better than wh3 Really felt like you were burning down civilization
>>487866748Treat them like any other of your peasants? Not like there is any difference between them.>ugly>dumb>slow>smelly
>>487866342basic units like marauders, warhounds, etc shouldn't need the rng spawning at your fortresses at least, bad luck can really cripple your early game if the game just doesn't give you more units to recruitpath upgrades rerolling your character trait is fucking cancer
is it possible to become BFF with Empire as Vlad?
>>487867007coast zombies are smarter and more advanced than bretonnian peasants, they can operate firearms unlike bretonians for example
>>487867123Frogs cant even operate guns if they wanted to unless they're in the water because of their cuck religion
>>487867020>path upgrades rerolling your character trait is fucking cancerWould be nice if you'd get a dilemma to keep the old traitor take the new one.>>487867123Fair enough I suppose. Make them your burghers/peasant leaders then.
Queen of /twg/
>>487867429Great pic. Cute bangs
>>487865326Ghorst is worst LL in the game
>>487867429Agreed
>>487866546??If you think im bullshitting just try it on a custom battle.
>>487867595>Weakest combatant in the game >Among the strongest factionwide lineHmmm
Neferata's head when?
>>487867429I agreemade for PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>487865326Markus Wulfhart.
>>487865326Khalida
>>487867101I think so. Counts are meant to be able to play masquerade
>>487867628>try it on a custom battle.Nta but saying that doesn't mean much and can easily be wrong. Like when a few threads ago an anon said yari wall beats katana samurai. They don't.
>>487867863Just give her lore of something or fix her passives or both already... Are ca unaware of the absolute state of khalida? They probably update her only with neferata
>>487867732Neferata giving head when?
>>487867705everything he does is shit
>>487867628i said they see eachother at the same timeyou say i dont understand they see eachother at the same timethe shades will stand still to shoot while the waywatchers will move and shoot WHILE SEEING EACHOTHER meaning the shades will miss a lot while getting hit by every projectile from the waywatchersi will now stop replying because you are either retarded or baiting
>>487868096>Buff all the shit>Your shitstack economy is so good it drowns the world
>>487867595Ghorst turns zombies into actual threat.>>487867775He actually gives doubles the projectile per volley of archers/huntsmen/crossbowmen. He is a joke but that buff isnt.>>487867863Armywide poison is pretty powerfull but yeah her 35m ranged unit buff is a fucking joke. You win.
>>487859748>does he ride a horse? does he have peasants carry him around on a horse-shaped object? does he just walk?Like a Dawi grail reliquae lol
>>487867737imagine very 40k lord animated like this..
Waywatchers beat all ranged units 1v1. Maneater pistols are the only ones that make you have to maneuver properly or get fucked. Ogres aren't bad in battle map and the dlc will probably make them formidable
>>487868316>Ghorst turns zombies into actual threat.how? they still dont have attack or dmg. They just last longer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghx_RO4jYCw
>>487868431so dawn of war 1?I still don't think they're making a 40k TW game, that setting sounds like it fits in with Alien and Halo than with Warhammer Fantasy
>>487868148Fucking dumbass small projectiles doesnt miss when target starts to move with their 40 fucking ms. And WWs aim like Shadowwalkers when they move and shoot meaning they will aim for 1 model and overkill it.You dont know shit about the game.
>>487858682Yeah, dlc will bomb hard without good guys
Siege maps look great but I wish they'd add more race specific assets for the flags and construction. .
>>487869192>without good guysAnon you're orks?
>>487868701>+12 ma, +50% WS and some other passive i cant remember from unique line>+13 ma from line>Some more from tech>rank buffs>poison>ward saveAll that and you can easily overcast a danse macabre on zombie blob. Its honestly pretty disgusting what that corpse fucker can do.
>>487869192From my point of view Khorne is the good guys.
>>487869636Most of what he does you can get on confed but the fucker is so far away if youre playing mannlet or isabella. I've still never done a proper count campaign past turn 15 or so I find no ranged factions kind of jarring I should probably ally oreon for waywatchers or someone else for arty on them
Bladesinger, say the line!
>>487870190cold blooded killers
>>487869568Memnon BTFO
>>487865981you start the game with a tier 2 minor settlement building which gives shielded levies and levy archers and those are good enough for a long timethe tier 3 upgrade of that building also gives cavalry and armored + shielded spears
>>487868948what's this called?this kind of idle movement that all video game characters seem to do when they're standing still?
>>487870537idle animation?
>>487870190
>>487870767no, the constant shifting, up and down, in and out, that video game characters do. people don't constantly do that, but it's in almost every video game.
Another one bites the dust.
