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Miquella god feet edition
>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg
THREAD SLAIN: >>490036825
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michella general
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>>490102839
Finally a good OP.
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>>490102839
>>490103049
we are... we are all forsaken...
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>>490102795
>>490102962
>if they didn't cut the dlc ending the story of the twins would be of two people who loved eachother so much they risked their lives to try to find the other their ideal spouse
>malenia would've nearly died to get miquella a husband
>miquella would've given up his trusty steed and formed an elaborate scheme to get malenia a husband
WE WERE ROBBED WE ALL COULDVE BEEN A BIG HAPPY FAMILY WE WERE FUCKING ROBBEDDDDD
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Is it me or is the Queelign ash garbage? I thought he would be strong as a fire knight.
There is no reason to ever pick it, he's sword is actually good unlike the ash.
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>>490103310
*his sword
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It's funny how Promised Consort Radahn having omen horn never got brought up considering hornsent civilization's reverence of horn/crucible would make them creamed their pant for him being their new lord. They could make it being a factor of hornsent NPC siding with Miquella at endgame etc. rather than "MURRIKA BAD". Also the bloodflame ability could have more presence like setting his rock missile ablazed etc.
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>>490103489
I am not BL/Yaoifag but I really like this ship dynamic. Miq is very feminine anyway so I guess I just like the dynamic/symbolism and not because it's homo.
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>>490103310
It's bad.
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>Makes every carian sword sorcery feel boring as fuck by comparison
How did they do it?
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>>490103678
it's really hard to land all 4 hits
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>>490103287
>if they didn't cut the dlc ending the story of the twins would be of two people who loved eachother so much they risked their lives to try to find the other their ideal spouse
i know the solution :^)
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>>490103678
Furious Blade + Morgott's Cursed Sword is absolutely retarded for pvp
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Man, the guy who decided to let the player have Reduvia so early in the game has a special place in hell
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>>490103489
In phase 2 transition cutscene, when Radahn kneel he has red aura coming out but it changed into gold when Miq arrived.
What's with that? Was that his bloodflame erupting due to Mogh body? Was he getting overtaken by Omen blood/formless mother and Miq had to intervene to calm him down?
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>>490103489
It's depressing that Lorian and Lothric did the same gimmick but in an infinitely superior way, down to having a cool combined weapon in the Twin Princes' Greatsword that had both of their powers.
Meanwhile Radahn got two copypasted STR/INT weapons and Miquella got a FTH nuke that don't even fit on the same build together.
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>>490103984
You can use carian retaliation on the projectiles
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>>490103984
>ARC having good options in the early game is a bad thing
Why?
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>>490103740
No it's not. Not even close. I abuse the piss out of this thing in PvP and PvE.
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>>490104034
Miq was powering him up
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Samurai or Bandit for arc/faith/dex?
Probably end with RoB but I want to use lots of blood incantation too. Dragon is optional but I probably max arcane anyway.
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>>490103740
Heavily depends on latency. On seamless it's a true combo in 90% of cases.
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Sometimes fextra and reddit keep crying about things being bugged (armor passives, talisman interactions, spells etc), test everything yourself, they are often wrong
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>>490104292
Prophet for the least points wasted on INT.
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>>490103775
Yeah tarnished x malenia kino
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>>490104259
Yeah but I wonder about red aura thing. Or it was irrelevant?
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>>490103559
>Miq is very feminine anyway
Still tops.
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>>490104332
fun build
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>>490104332
Post buildo
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>>490104367
I want to get into the build asap and kinda save prophet for frenzy flame build.
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>>490103559
IT SHOULDN'T BE HIM
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>>490104476
It's my high level dude
You can make a build for Furious Blade at level ~50 though
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>>490104581
kek
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>>490104479
Then it doesn't matter.
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>>490098457
Yeah, hoping Seamless eventually gets an area blacklist, an invasion item that only invades the local area and/or an option to only invade dungeons.
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>>490104332
in that webm, only 3 out of 4 hits landed
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>>490077264
EAC hard at work.
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>>490102962
MAIDENLESS FUCK MY SISTER

You can even hear it off in the distance on Storm Hill penetrating the furious winds.
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>>490104653
Being able to invade only in a single major area(think Liurnia, Caelid or Scadu Altus) and being able to opt towards invading in dungeons only or open world only combined would improve the general experience a lot.
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>>490103678
It's not hard to be cooler than some faggot mage waving his faggot staff around like some faggot with a ribbon baton at Mardi Gras casting faggot pew pews of varying sizes and shapes, not unlike a faggot's dildo collection.
Faggot.
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>>490104653
I think a better idea would be a session list viewer like in Wo Long. You decide whom you want to invade.
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>"best" part of your DLC is just a copy of moby dick
>he's even called "dragon communion ahab"
bros...
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>>490105623
soul...
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>>490105623
At this point you don't even know what else to cry about. Go and do something productive with your miserable life, or something.
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>>490105772
mad
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>>490103984
there's plenty of equivalent weapons you can find early on. that's just the powerful one for daggers.
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>>490104673
Sometimes the third hit staggers, sometimes it doesn't. Probably related to their poise health being reset by one of the hits.
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Why is Ansbanch so chill isnt he supposed to be a crazy blood cultist
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>>490105623
ansbach, hornsent and leda are all better npcs with far more depth.

hornsent is basically igon done right.
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Seamless coop is down right now yeah? Steam related issues.
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>>490106439
No because the subversion of expectations is that Mohg's faction was benevolent all along.
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>>490106439
Probably implying that pre-Miqullested Mogh was chill and honorable to some degree, probably more interested in taking in the downthrodden like Albinuric and creating proper dynasty etc. Post-Miq Mogh is crazy like Varre, only want blood to fill the cocoon, probably because Miq need it.
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>>490103287
You are a stupid retard and Miquella was never going to be a positive character. The choice of the term "Shadow" is not casual.
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>>490106439
It's a Miyazaki's psyop to make you hate Miquella more. So instead of "Oh, I think they are all chill but have different mindsets" it's "Literal bros vs psychopaths who want me dead"
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>>490106903
I am pretty sure they are going for more of a yin-yang, life and death duality kind of thing and a lot less Carl Jung one of the go to sources for New Agers and unironic satanists.
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>>490106439
Because Mohg went fucking mad after being charmed by Miquella and has completely twisted his own faction
They were no saints, not by a long shot, but it clearly shows that they were closer to honorable edgelords.
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>>490106984
Yeah. Kinda annoying a bit how they pretty much force you by narrative to hate Miquella in the same way that force you to like Ranni.
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>>490107092
>They were no saints, not by a long shot, but it clearly shows that they were closer to honorable edgelords.
I'm inclined to think they may have been closer to saints, actually. Varre is a weirdo but he does speak of Mohg's boundless love which is supported by the admittance of Albinaurics into his faction. Mohg seems to accept all kinds so long as they renounce the fingers, whom he has no mercy for. It's not exactly a secret that Mohg was unloved by his mother Marika, and as such he may have founded his dynasty on the entire concept of loving those spurned by her and the fingers. We also know fuck all about the Formless Mother and it's not a stretch to read what info we do have on her as her being a savior for the downtrodden. Almost all of this is just theory of course, as most lore is, but it seems incredibly likely to me that Mohg and his ilk were a good-hearted bunch who just wanted to tear down the fingers and make a more loving world. It's certainly plausible, given how much respect a guy like Ansbach had for him.
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>>490105623
He is funny but in no way best or have great depth.
Thollier has better "fighting against your fear" writing. Igon is just crazy rambler and he fought Bayle in the first place just because he wanted more power (want to eat his heart)? Bayle's only crime was betraying Placidusax which I don't understand why we would give a fuck about some dragon lord we probably killed by ourselves before already except that the priestess asked us to.
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>>490107146
miquella's gang
>crazy bitch
>non-verbal autistic
>rot bug who speaks like someone with intellectual disability, throw hefty rot pots at you later on
>hornsent who fucking hates everyone (and you) and mentions that every time you talk to him, invades you later on
>freyja (does nothing other than "yeah i love fights and so do radahn btw")
vs
>thiollier (coward who fights god, helps you even after beating his ass)
>ansbach (praises you and others often, doesn't care about mohg's death, talks a fucking lot, tells you to become elden lord)
its like asking people which ending you like more between ranni or dung eater when one has clearly more effort put into than the other
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This nigga Yura or whatever talks to me once and the next time I find him he's been possessed
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>>490107675
>I don't understand why we would give a fuck about some dragon lord we probably killed by ourselves before already except that the priestess asked us to.
Because we haven't. It's the same deal with Maliketh. Killing Placidusax does not mean he's dead when we leave Farum Azula. FA exists in a bubble quite literally outside time itself. When you kill Maliketh, it has no effect on Gurranq and vice-versa because Maliketh's existence there is totally separated from his existence in TLB proper. Same goes for Placidusax, which is why Florissax can still communicate with him even though we've killed him. What we do there can be in the past, future, or honestly neither. It's worth noting that this is very lazy writing, time bubbles always are, but it is the lore and it does make sense (in a retarded nonsensical way).
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Time is convoluted.
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>>490107074
Nope, the use of the term Shadow isn't just casual and it's not just your bog standard Fire and Dark.
Miquella specifically goes on a joruney to embrace Shadow and divest himself of his Gold.
The concept of Shadow by Carl Jung represents the unconscious repressedparts of the personality that theindividual initially does not acknowledge oraccept. These can include fears, desiresand aspects of the self that areconsidered undesirable or incompatible with the character self image but that he is forced to confront during his journey
Heroes defeat these Shadow aspects
Anti-heroes embody them including qualities suchas selfishness, aggression and moralambiguity.
Anti-heroes frequentlyprioritize their desires and needs overthose of others, displaying a notabledegree of selfishness and ruthlessness, thatcan drive their actions and decisions heroes wouldn't do and generally through morally dubiouspaths, like enacting a tyranny.
This is a directexpression of their Shadow, manifestingin their interactions anddecision-makingprocesses.
The character dynamics are veiled by the narrative but actually very simple to draw with a simple analysis. Miquella, a kind manipulator, is an anti-hero who turns into a villain with the objective to end any war and conflict, but Radahn, an honorable warmonger, is an hero that wasn't willing to create a tyrannical mind-controlling Order in order to create eternal peace.
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>it's another case of explaining gameplay through dumb lore
its just to not miss the quest rewards
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>>490108237
Headcanon
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>>490108448
The quest has a bunch quests with missable rewards retard and several quests where you have to pick what rewards you get. In fact Florissax's quest is one of them and you can lock yourself out of her spirit ash entirely if you fail to get the date rape juice from Thiollier before progressing the story too far. They don't give a fuck about the player bricking quests.
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>>490104034
I feel like it was Radahn's rage overpowering the charm until Miquella re-applied it. You almost helped him break free.
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She won.
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>>490106439
we only get to see mogh's followers when they're under the influence of miquella. i doubt mohg was too much different than morgott; he just followed a different god.

some like okina were likely just out to fight as much as they can, whereas others saw something better than what existed. varre was obviously someone distraught from war.
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>>490108769
>The quest has a bunch quests
>The quest
Meant to say the game which you just lost.
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>>490106439
>>490107092
>>490107573
>>490106984
So did mohg kidnap miquella then get charmed or was he charmed into kidnapping miquella? Of the former is true then he's still bad for kidnapping a kid, if the latter is true who was he going to be elden lord to? Malenia is rotted out, ranni's location isn't known and she's not in her body anymore. So who would it be if not miquella? Was he planning on banging his mom?
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>>490102839
Dubs picks the name of the character im making. Its a cute dragon girl.
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>>490109106
Florisex
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>>490108237
>Heroes defeat these Shadow aspects
You have no fucking idea what the concept of shadow self is
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>>490108889
She played 50D chess and tricked everyone, she unironically deserves to win
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>>490109132
Not bad, but i raise you to deflorisex (get it)
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>>490108769
>he's comparing gurranq rewards with florissax's spirit ash
come on dude.
you can have your headcanons all you want, it's what miyazaki intended. but it's obviously that some things are just for gameplay.
>they don't give a fuck about the player bricking quests
except in elden ring they do? almost all questlines are impossible to brick, they just skip ahead.
there's a reason why ranni gives you the carian inverted statue even if you never spoke to rogier.
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>>490109183
Simply too high INT
..lacks in wisdom though.
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>>490109294
Imagine cumming inside ranni when she still had her body it would be so magical
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>>490109442
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>>490109221
>>he's comparing gurranq rewards with florissax's spirit ash
No I'm not? I'm comparing Florissax's questline being a choice like Millicent's or Seluvis. Even in the DLC there's multiple choice quests with the iris items where you need to pick between a summon or a weapon.
>almost all questlines are impossible to brick
Except several can still very easily be bricked. Seluvis's again as an example bricks if you go too deep into Ranni's which locks you out of both special puppets and the scorpion charm.
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>had another dream of miquella raping me
How do I stop this please help
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To be honest Gurranq was the odd one out. Don't know if he got special treatment just to highlight the "time is convoluted" shit in Faram Azula or something. It's not like beast incantation is super important.
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>>490109835
Be straight, not gay.
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>>490110076
inferior copycat of this masterpiece I see
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>>490109835
was he still the bottom or..?
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>>490109930
The time shit is badly done too, farum azula can't be in the future nor in the past, it makes zero sense
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>>490109168
Yes I do, I'm right
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>braided hair
>ranni
>radagon
>godfrey
>godrick
>godefroy
>marika
>radahn
>miquella

>enemies with braids
>fire giants
>divine bird
>divine beast
>hornsent grandam
>rellana (rennala's hair)
>ancient hero of zamor

>flowing hair
>malenia

>unknown
>rykard
>godwyn
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>>490110192
>farum azula can't be in the future nor in the past
Because it isn't. It's not in either. It's outside time altogether.
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>>490110310
messmer, melina and morgott also don't have braids, i forgot about them.
mohg is bald.
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>>490110116
I'm not gay I have a gf
>>490110191
No he was raping me with his penis I'm always conscious but can't control my body i have to sit there and take it every time my yells and cries being ignored of him kissing me to try to shut me up i hate it
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>>490110678
Kill yourself whore
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>>490110678
Faggot
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>>490110491
wow what a cool monster
*dies in 3 hits*
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>>490110858
That's why there's 2 of them, so they die in collectively 6 hits
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>>490108237
that's not what went through Miyazaki's chink mind when he made the dlc.

you are extremely anglocentric
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Seamless is down because of a steam networking app thing, but the issue that steam has apparently is pretty much only affecting Seamless Co op which is worrying since like that makes me worried that pike steam won't notice or bother to fix it if it apparently only messes with one singular thing
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>>490111238
*300km long area for 6 hits*
you know i never noticed those things before the dlc
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need me a bich like dis to ruin my life fr fr
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>>490111386
I've just been invading vanilla for now
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>>490111673
h-hey
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>poison antspur greatshield fucker chowing down on boluses to prevent me from poisoning him
>kick his shield
>perform Open Heart Surgery™(WITHOUT ANESTHETIC)[GRAPHIC]
>get 52k runes
man these fuckers are just walking jackpots for my RL1, I'm going to be able to buy everything in the game

tyvm to the darkwraith that recommended an empty hand for kick btw
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>>490108889
that's right
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>>490111883
lol he has the funny ayylmao mask! haha hes so funny!
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What other incant makes dragon incants safer to cast except flame of the fell god?
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>>490106439
The implication is that the formless mother is the least malevolent outer god its up to the user what to do with her wounds
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Is Frenzy flame/blood/dragon priest faith/arcane build viable?
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If Radagon is a discarded part of Marika does that mean she wanted to have sex with tall freaky women at some point
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>>490112824
frenzy incantations are very mediocre
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>>490107074
>satanists
Carl Jung theory actually justifies the whole thing of people being good and if they are bad they are actually being influenced or possessed by demons.
That bible passage where Jesus shouts at someone but it's actually talking to the demons influencing that person instead of blaming them.
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>>490112969
awww I though it looks cool especially it has special snowflake ending tied to it.
To be honest I want to do arcane shits but I would rather do frenzy ending than dung eater's because I already did Fia's.
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>>490112824
That doesnt sound like a build that sounds like a result of indesiciveness
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Would any of you guys on PC drop me an arcane talisman so that I can finish my RL1 White Mask cosplay and cast Swarm of Flies? I'll have to double up on Scarseals to cast it though lol
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>>490110180
>>490110076
Is the Radagon = Marika explained yet?
I believe they were different entities that actually tried to fuse since they were so compatible (in contrast with those failed jar experiments).
Just don't know when that actually happened.
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>>490113103
flame of frenzy and frenzied burst are still decent though, but madness having no effect on pve and the rest of the incantations being dog doesn't help that much
alternatively you can just larp as vyke and do the frenzied flame ending anyway as a normal guy who lost himself
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Anyone have a list of retcons in the DLC?
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>>490113269
its impossible to form any coherent thought when you realize everything gets scrapped so much, at some point radagon wouldn't even despise his red hair before they changed it
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>>490113215
which talisman? the outer god heirloom?
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https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hihEhsdwiIk
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>>490113269
I think Miq/Trina situation is the best explanation.
Some people cited "shaman's flesh meld harmoniously with other" as Radagon being different person before but there was no evidence of him having life before Marika otherwise.
My personal timeline is:
Marika split into Radagon (may still be within her body)->fucked herself to give birth to Messmer/Melina->marry Godfrey->spit Radagon out to fuck Rennala->Godfrey gone->Call Radagon back to be elden lord and marry her->shattering->Elden beast forced fuse them to control her body? ("I have yet to become you, you have yet to become me, let us shattered together").
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Why does Igon's armor have so many gloves
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>>490109106
Welp, no one got dubs so i made it up myself. Her name is Lythrana, i thought that sounded cool and dragon like with a feminine feel to it, i dunno, i like it
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>>490113713
>I got back up and pwned him
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>>490113892
In order to achieve godhood Miquella had to shed his flesh (St.Trina) I imagine Radagon is a discarded part of Marika that at some point they decided to meld back together kinda like you said
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>>490112824
Why wouldnt it be
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>>490113702
yeah
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>>490114491
signs down at church of elleh ps: erg
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>>490113713
wat
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>>490114609
cool, omw, I'm dressing like varre
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>>490113007
He is just taking ancient and older ideas and framing it in such a way that you can feel good about yourself being apathetic to the evil around you or even encourage it like this "shadow" shit he goes on about. The demons are not "your shadow" and you can get rid of them and resist their attempts at intrusion by excercising your impulse control and excising all intrusive thoughts. Voila, done no more "shadow" and now it is just you and your problems you have to deal with without the excuses.

I will refrain posting anymore then this since I don't want to derail the thread.
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>>490114609
aw dude I wanted to fight
tysm btw
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>>490107146
it makes you hate ranni if you have any ability to spot manipulation and determine good versus evil.

the only people that like ranni want to have sex with the doll.
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>>490111332
Yes it is, and the finale even explictly says so.
Radahn is a kind and good character and Miquella turned into a desperate villain bevause the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Originally, Radahn conquered Fate to then become Lord and be the awaited liege of Carians and Nox in the coming Age of Stars.
Ranni and Rykard were both ok with that, having Carians and Nox Fate linked to the Elden Ring, but when Miquella's plan of creating a mind controlled dictatorship became clear to Radahn, Radahn rejected it and broke the vow.
This is why before the Shattering the same Nox assassinated every possible candidate demigod after the alliance between Caria and Haligtree had ended.
Miyazaki lives for this subversion stuff where the warmonger is actually compassionate and righteous and "Kind Miquella" is a piece of shit, but most importantly this is the kind of conflict over control and changing the very nature of the world where noone is really in the right or wrong that you can see in many Miyazaki games like even AC6 and DS3.
The exact reason the Nox turn on Ranni afterwards is her deciding to create an Age of Stars without having the Fate of starlight bridled by an Order.
This is why the DLC is the logical conclusion to the base game abd takes over fron where it was built up, but the obscure and piecemeal lore bits you are supposed to connect go over the heads of many
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What Marika took in the trailer was the Rune of Death from the Gloam-Eyed Queen.
She sealed it in the Shadow Lands, then the Erdtree (Rune of Life, Gold) "arose". And so too, was shadow born (the Scadutree, Rune of Death)
Messmer's war was something she didn't even saw. She was away already in the Lands Between.
The reason why there's no mention of GEQ, betrayal, or anything along those lines other than headcanons people come up with, is because the lore changed.
We now know that Messmer was still around when fucking young Radahn was already studying in Sellia (thanks, Gaius). So probably the Haligtree twins were also alive. So we are talking about way ahead the timeline, when Radagon and Marika were together.
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>>490108237
miquella already was the shadow of his other persona, st. trina.

he was already a brainwashing and manipulative evil piece of shit.
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>>490113898
PLEASE ANSWER, THIS IS BOTHERING ME GREATLY
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>>490116217
he's a hobo that scavenges battlefields... do u not read his armor description
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>>490115413
>Miyazaki lives for this subversion stuff where the warmonger is actually compassionate and righteous and "Kind Miquella" is a piece of shit

imo, it's less about subversion and more about contrast.
Miyazaki loves ruin. So the big bold general is brought low by rot and driven to madness, becoming a mindless beast wearing the decaying flesh of the great hero. Likewise, the innocent golden child is actually not so innocent and has weaponized their harmlessness to drive others to do violence on their behalf in an attempt to force powerlessness onto everyone else.
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>>490116308
Why would he have only gloves then and not boots, daggers, more rope, more everything?
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>>490116384
idk man
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Pvp balance idea :
Invaders damage is multiplied by 1.5 and damage negation multiplied by 3 for every co op phantom summoned. If no co op phantoms are summoned the invaders damage and damage negation is normal, blue phantoms count as co op and trigger it. Co op phantoms have can no longer do poise damage or hitstun to invaders, only hosts.
Co op phantoms recieve no reward for doing co op.
Invaders get ancient smithing stones for each host killed. (Bloody finger normal, recusant finger somber)
Blue phantoms can damage hosts and get the rewarded with, i dunno whatever blues like, a spiritual dildo?
If a host uses the taunter tounge while a co op phantom is summoned they immediately have all their stats reduced by 50 permanently while keeping rune level the same and have permanant scarlet rot on thier character, these effects can never be removed.

Thoughts? So many ganks right now i think this would make invasions balanced and fair for everyone.
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This is the level of Elden Ring "lore" discussion, btw.
Questioning why the fuck would there be a huge area, with a very big building and chalice that has no purpose and getting the most basic lore answer as a reply and people think it's a huge revelation makes me mad.
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>>490113898
>>490116217
Keep his hands from blistering while he climbs mountains and shoots arrows at dragons. They wear out fast, so he needs extra pairs.
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good morning erg!!
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>>490117126
>"all the crystal tears being dried sap is huge!"
...what? Is this how redditors think? What did he think it was before? The tears come from tree creatures, TREES! What else would it be then fucking sap?
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>>490117573
You tell me bro. I doubt your average person reads more than a single line of text.
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>>490117126
it's actually the skibidi toilet used to collect the skibidi fragments. the hornsent engage in ritual defecation there
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>>490117554
good morning ryaposter
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>>490117089
Way too much
Just un nerf invader flasks, cap starlight shards/lulling branches to 1, and allow invaders to go infinitely up like in the old games
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>>490117126
>>490117712
>hey guys, all those big objects all over the area right before the fire giant, dude, guess what, THOSE ARE DEAD GIANTS, you need to look at them closely but once you see it you cant unsee it bro... i wonder how they died though, they seem to all have thorns growing out of them, hmm im gonna need to hear vattis take on this revelation.
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>>490106595
Hornsent is my favourite part of the miquella gang, though I still love Igon. It does feel a lot like "flirting vs sexual harassment" when they try to make a statement of the way revenge drags you into the depths while having a totally pro-revenge sidequest though
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>>490115413
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>the best DLC addition is some nigga with a cannon for a head
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>>490118104
Not that anon but if you wanna talk fact then Miquella IS kind, that is undisputed. All the "it was all his keikaku" fags are the headcanon ones"
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>>490110728
>>490110771
NTA, rape dreams are real and they fucking suck
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>>490115413
>Miyazaki lives for this subversion stuff where the warmonger is actually compassionate
gap moe shit
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>>490118636
he is still a pretty tragic character that had good intentions but tears himself apart in an effort to be rid of his lineage and absolve himself of his mother, he loved his followers and his sister, if he didnt then abandoning his love wouldnt be treated as such a big deal.
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>>490119035
>sister, explode so i can have gay sex
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>>490102839
nice feet
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>>490119152
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>>490119618
>tits
ruined
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>>490115320
Ranni is a good character and the opposite of Miquella.
Radahn had chained Fate, defeating the Stars (and the vessel his Mohg with his Omen Blood), so that Miquella's Order could then include the Fate of all inhabitants of the Lands Between, all under control of his own Order. This is why the Remembrance speaks of the Tarnished as the character who refused to be embraced.
Ranni brings the Elden Ring to the Stars, so that all Numen and Nox and Carians,... draw their Fate from the Stars as it was before the creation of Order, even for Marika's descendants.
In both endings the souls, bodies and spirits of the Lands Between are all united, but under Miquella it is a world of absolute control and tyrannical peace, and under Ranni of absolute freedom and cold
If you think Ranni is evil or Miquella hate from the game is "forced" you completely misunderstood the base game and you don't even know why Radahn conquered the Stars in the first place. Radahn was so horrified of what Miquella wanted to achieve and him becoming a possible enslaver rather than unifying lord that he broke his long term alliance and fought until he was sane.
Ranni honored Radahn by giving true freedom to the Lands Between, rejecting Order altogether.
I wasn't a Rannifag until I actually played and understood the DLC. Now it makes sense for the Age of Stars to be the canon ending.
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>>490115413
>when Miquella's plan of creating a mind controlled dictatorship became clear to Radahn, Radahn rejected it and broke the vow.
it makes too much sense to be true
miyazaki does not like coherent plots that make any sense
your theory makes sense, therefore it's wrong
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>>490119618
You have no fucking idea how much I want to be loved by her.
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hey guys it's freyja (real)
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>>490120152
>*sweetbabyinc's your design*
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>>490120152
Nice try Radahn
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>>490118663
That's not why he's a whore
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>>490119152
Mikebros...
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Jump in a whip that you've never seen (yeah)
It got bulletproof glass and a ceiling screen (err)
"Let me guess, it cost you like a hundred thousand?"
No, little bitch, it cost seven beans (vyoom, I'm-)
I'm doin' what you do in your dreams
I fucked your bitch pussy, Vaseline (yeah)
These bitches always wan' caption me
Hatin' ass nigga turn me to meme (yeah)
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>>490119152
So based....
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>>490119931
Based
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>>490120701
That ain't a tarnished
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>>490117554
Good morning sir!
You are not him
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PvP balance idea: when you invade the host dies immediately, their character gets deleted and when you return to your world you automatically beat the game and get 500 dragon smithing stones and 999 starlight shards
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>>490117554
Is it ugly on purpose?
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>>490120912
Seems kinda unbalanced
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Oathseeker armor is the coolest looking in the game and gives jack shit poise what a waste
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>>490119618
sex
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>>490119152
he thought Malenia could solo Radahn and the rest of the continent in phase 1
he was 99.9% right tbf
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>>490119983
No it's clearly the narrative Miyazaki built.
I think Elden Ring obscures details to a fault, mainly for DLC + base game stuff being both central to the game story, but the actual story is all there.

There's two huge hints.
1) The Black Knives specifically slaughtered every possible candidate other than Radahn because Radahn later refused to support Miquella. They wanted Miquella to get his soul.
2) The """"useless"""" cutscene shows Miquella begging Radahn to accept his tyrannical rule because he will make the world kind. That's not Young Miquella and Young Radahn, when the latter became Promised Consort that's shortly before the Shattering, and he's already talking of mind controlling people.
Radahn and Miquella chained Fate and conquered the Stars because Miquella wants to embrace ALL, Numen, Nox, Carians, Hornsent,...
The narrative piece many miss is that the Erdtree's grace affects the fate of Marika descendants (including Carian Demigods, but not actual Carians like Rellana, Rennala,...) and whoever was excluded by the Golden Order.
Radahn was great friend with Albinaurics like Gaius and legitinstelly cared for their condition and the rejections they faced under the Golden Order, but he was an honorable envoy of the Golden Order himself, faithful to his father and Godfrey.

From all these elements it's easy to understand Radahn's motivations. Miquella's Order represents Light chained by the Order, Miquella and Radahn were supposed tl be God and Lord of an Age where grace and light are united in an Order controlled by Radahn, the vessel of it.
And this technically would be a great, peaceful new Era, except Miquella is insane and wants to create a world of lobotomized "peaceful" drones where he is the cold ruler of it, and one of the central themes of Elden Ring is the dangers and fickleness of overly powerful entities acting under the guise of divine status and mandate, which is also central to Goldmask and Ranni base game questlines.
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>>490108085
You can make Moore neutral and he's happy you're around after dlc events
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Radahn didn't consent.
Miguel is worse than Griffith
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>>490119618
how many runes would it cost to let her crush my balls with her heels
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>>490122386
imagine missing the point so fucking hard
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>>490115413
This is all headcanon, Radahn is a bloodthirsty war-hungry retard and his keeping the vow was conditional on him getting a big war. Miquella calling him "kind" is, in Japanese, explicitly credited to his own naivete.
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>>490122774
I'm not japanese
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you guys know youre talking to ai generated text right
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reminder that "Miquella would brainwash everyone in his age" is literal headcanon yet loreslopslurpers have adopted it as canin because the game itself doesn't have a story or any details.
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>>490122774
>Radahn is a bloodthirsty war-hungry retard
Wrong
>and his keeping the vow was conditional on him getting a big war.
The DLC only further humanizes Radahn. Radahn who cares so much about Albinaurics and has his emblem on Ordina statues where Albinaurics venerate Miquella, is spevifically called kind and string in contrast to Miquella (who is neither kind nor strong)
>Miquella calling him "kind" is, in Japanese, explicitly credited to his own naivete
Headcanon
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>>490122965
no but you are incredibly autistic.
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>>490123578
I'm not autistic
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>>490123396
lol pedo
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>>490119618
god i need those feet in my mouth
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>The DLC only further humanizes Radahn.
0 dialogues btw
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St. Trina made me sleep through my alarm again
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>>490124025
>>490123846
dum bitch
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>>490122774
Radahn is a retarded fight fag but he is a kind retarded fight fag. He is friend with the NotHomoculus, most of his soldiers show fierce loyal for him, his horse...etc

Only retarded lorelet think Radahn is a simple warmonger
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>>490124165
>He is friend with the NotHomoculus
Hm?
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Is the beloved stardust talisman even worth it in any situation? Even on my pure caster I can't decide between it and 15 dex + 30 virtual dex with radagon's icon. The difference between 45 and 70 dex is only like 8-9% cast speed and stardust has a ridiculous -30% damage reduction cost.
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>>490124472
The ayyylmao, anon
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>>490124472
Anon is probably talking about Gaius (sloppiest character added), even though the carians themselves don't mind albinaurics and "soldiers are loyal for him" doesn't really tell anything
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>>490123482
>Wrong
Right.

>ackshully Freyja, Radahn's handpicked personal guard and his most trusted knight, knows nothing about Radahn and her narrative role in the DLC is not to be Radahn's representative but instead a random retard who represents no one and nothing

>is spevifically called kind and string in contrast to Miquella (who is neither kind nor strong)
The Japanese version of the Remembrance explicitly only says they're contrasted by strength, not kindness.

>Headcanon
kill yourself.

幼き日、ミケラはラダーンに王を見た
脆弱な自分たちにはない、強さを
そして優しさを
だからミケラは純真に願った
私の王に、なってください

At a tender age, Miquella saw a King in Radahn.
In his strength, that they lacked since they were frail, and he saw kindness too.
That’s why Miquella innocently/naively pleaded:
“Please, become my king”.
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>>490124613
>>490124636
I thought Messmer and Gaius were friends not Gaius and Radahn
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>>490124671
The game was released in english
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>>490124778
>Gaius and Radahn were good rivals in their youth, and this sorcery is a product of their friendly competition.
some shonen type of shit going on
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>>490124853
I accept your concession.
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>>490124778
He uses literal gravity magic and you think he was not Radahn friend?
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>Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike (Release)
>Wrath of the Ancient Drakes (1.00)
ahhh what does it mean ahhhh
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>>490123975
And that's completely irrelevant to the fact that Radahn is DESCRIBED BY THE GAME as kind and good person legitimately concerned for the conditions of those rejected by the Golden Order like Nox, Albinaurics and Misbegotten (both races usually serving under Radahn and the Haligtree) which is what why Miquella and Radahn were allied and devised Miquella's Order as a reformed and inclusive new Order in the first place.
You would have a point if the final cutscene didn't show Miquella trying to con Radahn into his bullshit but claiming that mind control is actually good.
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>>490124949
Rafahn was friends with Ensha?
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>>490119618
Would
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>>490125112
>Radahn is DESCRIBED BY THE GAME as kind and good person
It's described that one kid thought he was a kind person. This kid is also explicitly stated in the same entry to be naive.
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>>490117126
Why are people in this thread mocking this when we can't go a single day without someone posting a picture of the vessel behind Shadow Keep and bitching that "it doesn't do anything" and "nothing's there but Gaius and his Albinauric waifu"?
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>>>/v/
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>>490124671
People who try to prove points with translations are such a joke considering the translator works with miyazaki to get everything right.
So in other words, nobody cares about how japs dont have words in their dictionary
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I want to power stance light great swords( milady, lena sword).DEX/FTH felt kinda lackluster with keen. STR/FTH with flaming strike/fire infusion seems the way now. Does anyone have experience with such build? I don’t want to waste another Larval Tear for nothing.
>muhhh you should two hand it it’s much better hurrrr
That’s now what I’m asking.
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>none of the other shit in the DLC lore matters anymore
>just whether or not Radahn was forced or brainwashed into all this
>not because it's interesting just "I don't want him to be gay"

I don't think it's Miyazaki that's at fault either, just the insecure retards that can't let this shit go.
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>>490125229
>we can't go a single day without someone posting a picture of the vessel behind Shadow Keep and bitching that "it doesn't do anything" and "nothing's there but Gaius and his Albinauric waifu"?
Anon, when you have a DLC that already gets complaints of it being empty and you have an entire area with even more nothing people will complain.
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>>490125391
cope coomer
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>>490125391
If it makes you feel better, Elden Consort means copilot rather than copulate

You aren't really forced to fuck whoever you ascend with. I mean most people do, but it is not like there is a contract or anything.
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>>490125339
>That’s now what I’m asking.
Okay. Don't forget to use the 2h talisman, it's very good.
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>>490124671
I am pretty sure it is naive as in "don't fuck your brother" naive, not "your brother is literally Gravity Hitler" naive
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>>490117712
I thought this was a reference to the Mausoleums, implying that the sarcophagi you use to duplicate remembrances house the cadavers of Marika's unwanted demigod offspring and that's why they have the power to duplicate a remembrance?
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>>490125512
>coomer
This shit is BORING and POINTLESS. Who the fuck cares if it's brainwashing or not? How does that change the story? What does it add to the fight? Absolutely nothing changes either way, the lore is still the same.
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>>490124671
>Freyja
She quite literally doesn't care and just says that she wants to resurrect Radahn. It has nothing to do with Radahn's will
>Japanese version
That's irrelevant.
The "naivety" the game refers to is Miquella believing he can simply use mind control to change human nature, when the whole narrative is in contrast to that idea, beginning from the whole point of having a party of followers slaughter each other.
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Why are demi-humans INT-aligned?
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>>490125391
He wasn't forced, people just don't want to acknowledge the text. Miquella talking about how Radahn accepting his role in the ritual being conditional on "if we honor our part of the vow", and then praising Malenia for fulfilling the vow, makes it abundantly obvious that Radahn agreed but first asked for a big war and a warrior's death at the hands of his mightiest possible opponent. So does Malenia being a valkyire and his most trusted knight being named Freyja. So does Freyja, who exists to embody his ideals in the DLC, talking about how he desires endless war and how you and her need to have a big epic team battle to usher in the new lord, then thanking you when you kill her. So does his parralel with Godfrey. So does his title being Promised Consort. So do the mechanics of the godhood ritual which requires he help Miquella ascend and pull him back from the gate before he gets god powers. So does him fighting you before Miquella even comes back from the gate, followed by Miquella addressing the revived Radahn as if they're just meeting for the first time. So does him having the exact same chuuni gestures and body language as he did when he first fought Malenia. So does his fucking music.

it's literally just "I don't want him to be a gay pedo" nixed with "I don't want him to be a bloodhungry psychopathic retard", even though arguing this requires saying that both the characters and the game's text interface are lying.
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>>490125936
Thing is that Miquella is cursed to now ever be successful in the end.
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>Character is known for charming/mindcontrolling others
>UMM SWEETY THAT DOESN'T COUNT
yikes
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>>490125936
>She quite literally doesn't care and just says that she wants to resurrect Radahn
She says endless war is what Radahn wants.

>The "naivety" the game refers to is Miquella believing he can simply use mind control to change human nature,
Calling him "naive" immediately follows the sentence "he thought Radahn was kind." There is no reference to mind control in the Remembrance and thus no reason to assume it's talking about something completely unrelated rather than the sentence it just said
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Miquella power is truly the kindest in Elden Ring. Most people refers to it as "mind control" but what Miquella does is that he bestows "Love" upon you

You are essentially still you, but with love. Miquella has no control over your actions or your mind. What you do, you do in the name of love

His power is kind in the sense that he doesn't have the ball to hurt , kill, or make people bled. By bestowing "love" upon them, he essentially gives all the broken fightfags and the retarded murder hobos a second chance to live their lives right. And i think it is beautiful, it explains why some people decided to stick with him even after their charms got broken. Because he brought out the good in them
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Mike was a catastrophe for all lore in ER.
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>lore is dogshit
>lets discuss it
>wtf it doesn't make sense??
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>I'm crashing this setting WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>490126216
one way you know it's bullshit is that the game never even floats the idea itself. Freyja says it's what Radahn wants. Ansbach addresses the final boss as if he's Radahn. The music and opening cutscene exist only to tell you "this is 100% radahn doing what he wants" in direct contrast to last time you met him when he was actually mindfucked. No text even hints at him being mind controlled and all the in-universe characters explicitly reject the idea that he's mind controlled. It's solely a fan invention in every way.
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>>490126690
Ansbach studied the the rites of the gate extensively and already knows how Mike's powers work so if anyone would be willing to consider the idea of mind control here then it would be him. But he doesn't. He addresses the final boss as Radahn and then criticizes him for stealing Mohg's body.
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>>490125597
People have taken it way Consort so far out of it's original intended meaning within the game that some people actually consider it a serious argument whether or not these power hungry characters are actually spending all their time having sex when the only actually proven case of people fucking are KING Consort Radagon and KING Consort Godfrey.

The fact that there's actual arguments on whether or not Radahn is gay and a pedo or that the Tarnished get's to fuck a wooden doll pussy is laughable.
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>>490126958
>The fact that there's actual arguments on whether or not Radahn is gay and a pedo or that the Tarnished get's to fuck a wooden doll pussy is laughable.
The Tarnished's relationship with Ranni is explicitly romantic so that's 3/3 on the consort title meaning "husband."
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>>490126385
>She says endless war is what Radahn wants.
Yes, she says that Radahn doesn't want a forced Age of "Compassion" where Miquella forces everyone to be peaceful. That'a the whole point of it. How can you miss the point this hard dude? This doesn't mean that Radahn is a hithead that wants to just do war, it means he doesn't want Miquella's mind controlling everyone into being passive drones.
>Calling him "naive" immediately follows the sentence "he thought Radahn was kind
Nope, what is naive is his idea of "peace".
Way to miss the fucking point holy shit. If only the game didn't plaster it all over the game quests by having a forced alliance of people that should hate each others guts go south, as well as Leda slaughtering every single Needle Knight...
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Radahn didn't consent.
This is canon. Sorry I'm friends with Goro Miyazaki. I know.
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>>490111883
>>490112120
Why is every single player who use that mask so fucking insufferable
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>>490127040
>is explicitly romantic
For sure dude.
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>>490127173
most of the time it's because they watch steelovsky
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Dogshit loretalk.
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>>490127069
>Yes, she says that Radahn doesn't want a forced Age of "Compassion" where Miquella forces everyone to be peaceful
No, she specifically and literally says "endless war." And she says this in the context of him and her supporting Miquella. You're letting your headcanon leak again.

His idol Godfrey wasn't about "freedom" either. He was also a bloodthirsty monster who just wanted war. That's who Radahn wants to be and that's who he becomes, which is why he's even dressed like Godfrey at the end.

>he doesn't want Miquella's mind controlling everyone into being passive drones.
"age of compassion = everyone is mind controlled" is still nowhere in the game btw and is an impossibility with how Miquella's powers as portrayed actually work unless you assume he's going to personally hug every single newborn on the continent.

>Nope, what is naive is his idea of "peace".
Still not in the actual text, more headcanon. Concession accepted.
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>>490127351
>puts on a wedding ring and calls you "dearest"
uh huh, totally platonic
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>>490127494
Let's kick it up a notch.

>Loki is a shapeshifter, known to swap his gender
>Radagon is a shapeshifter, known to swap his gender

>Loki's notable children include Jormungr, the World Serpent; the great wolf Fenris; and Hel, Goddess of the Underworld.
>Radagon's notable children include Rykard, the Serpent of Blasphemy; the great lion Radahn; and Ranni, who sends the player on quests to various underground areas in the Lands Between so she can become a goddess.

>Loki once borrowed a net from a being named Rán, who was the personification of the deep and dangerous parts of the sea associated with death. For this, Loki is occasionally represented in art with a net behind him.
>Radagon has a daughter named Ranni associated with the deadly chill of a winter's night. She eventually steals a fragment of Destined Death and uses it to slay demigods. Radagon is commonly depicted in art with a lattice behind him.
>Water is frequently associated with death in Elden Ring, with Godwyn's living corpse taking on aquatic attributes over time and the Tibia Mariners paddled around on boats as they shepherd the dead.

tl;dr Radagon should be imagined to have the Joker's voice and he probably cracked jokes and pranked people a lot.
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>>490125859
Seriously. Mind-control just makes every plot it's involved in even worse, it's the corny question mark at the end of a movie's "The End...?" card. It doesn't help that neither side of the debate can make a good argument for the battle at Caelid either.
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>>490124883
>>490124949
I did not know that! Thank you for sharing
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>>490127745
if Miquella was going to brainwash everyone why would he need another Godfrey in addition to his already present Malekith/Messmer equivalent, abd why would he still be recruiting soldiers? headcanonfags can never answer this.
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All of you are spouting headcanon.
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Reminder that Miyazaki isn't an omnipotent god that directs, designs and develops everything in these games by himself.
He isn't even responsible for designing Gwynevere way back in DS1.
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Do the fingers have agency of their own like the jew snakes or just act as antennas for YHVH?
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>>490128716
>He isn't even responsible for designing Gwynevere way back in DS1.
He's responsible regardless of it being done by his hand or with his knowledge or not
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>>490124949
What if he learned gravity magic from the fallen star beast to the northeast of his arena?
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>the DLC added a literal headcannon as a summon
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About to hop into the DLC.. How hard are we talking? People talked up Malenia for months, but I beat her in about 10 tries. People talked up Mogh for months, but I beat the fucker first try.
I struggled more with Sekiro's end game bosses than either of those. I don't really get it.
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>>490111332
Not him but you are kidding yourself if you think Miyazaki isn't aware of the likes of Nietzsche, Jung, and Freud and their ideas. Berserk has Nietzsche and Jung themes/ideas and if Berserk has it then of course Zaki's body of work is going to.

Here are some examples the Jungian shadow-self and the Nietzsian 'staring into the abyss' and the 'beyond good and evil' ideas.
-Manus (you literally stare into an abyss before the boss fight and he grabs you then the first thing you see are eyes staring back)
-Humanity as a whole concept in DS1 and AoA DLC
-Healing Church
-School of Mensis
-Blood-addled Hunters like Gascoigne
-Old Hunters with red eyes are more ferocious than the cowering beasts at the start of the DLC
-Djura and Old Yharnam Beasts
-Scourge of Beasts
-Dragon Communion
-Maliketh and Blaidd are literally called shadows and are both Zerk references

That's all I can be bothered to list of the top of the dome. There's plenty more of course.

>anglocentric
You are clueless, none of those three are Anglos they are Germans except Freud who is a Jew. Europhile is the world you are looking for, which the Japanese and Miyazaki specifically very much are.
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>>490129214
just play it already, pussy
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>>490129214
It's going to seem really hard at the beginning because you have no Scooby fragments. Everything is going to hit hard as fuck and tank a lot of damage. Once you get Scooby fragments you'll start rolling over everything.
There's only three hard bosses IMO. One is at the very beginning and optional, also partly difficult due to lack of fragments. One is mandatory and in a small castle. The last one is Radahn who is just an overturned shitshow of a boss.
Everything else is whatever.
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>>490129214
Also for the millionth fucking time HIS NAME IS MOHG CAN NONE OF YOU STUPID FUCKS READ
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>>490104034
it was radahn going sicko mode. thats who radahn is. miquella is his serosh and miquella tempered radahns rage so he could fight like a lord.
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>>490129630
Bohg!
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>>490129379
he's a chink, they have their own naruto philosophy of praising coolest guys.

I am 100% sure Miyazaki has no idea what you came up with.
All of souls is just his view of what medieval fantasy is like, and he's made it mostly european aesthetically, but it's still chinese
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>>490127745
>No, she specifically and literally says "endless war."
Again, this is just the opposite concept of "Age of Compassion". She quite literally says that Radahn didn't agree with Miquella's brainwashing, that's bot up to interpretation bevause the very concept of "endless war" radically opposes Miquella's plot, the rest is headcanon
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>>490127861
ANSWER ME, FOR I MUST PREPARE TO DEFEAT BAYLE
VILE BAYLE
AAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGHHHHH
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>>490129994
big pierce weapon just pick one
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Mongh
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my first build is dogshit i will never recover from this. battlemages are not cool
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>>490129994
Dragonslayer Katana
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>>490125279
>the translator works with the devs bro
classic
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>>490129214
>People talked up Mogh for months
Literally who ever talked up Mohg??
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Does the Dung Eater really eat dung, or is he just trying to be edgy?
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>>490130128
thats not a base game weapon dipshit
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>>490129787
NTA, but you are incredibly ignorant. It must be challenging to live in a world where you think everyone is as ignorant as you. Just because you never read any literature other than the Hardy Boys doesn't mean that's the case for Miyazaki. I can promise you he knows who Jung, Nietzsche, and Freud -- among many others.
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I see people doing fucktons of damage to Rhadan but every time I fight him I'm taking irrelevant chunks of his HP per hit. How do I get good at this game?
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>>490130423
80 in damage stat
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>>490130423
Try two handing.
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>>490130325
He sucks souls through the anus
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>>490129630
calm down, varre
their death will be extremely prolonged
and graced by excruciating pain
the mother of truth craves wounds
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>>490130639
But he's not going out of his way to eat dung, yeah? It just so happens to be there? I guess loathsome anus eater doesn't roll off the tongue as well.
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>>490116347
reminds me of this
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>>490130692
i don't even like him i just hate people misspelling 4 letter names
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>>490129787
>He's a chink
He's Japanese, not Chinese
>their own naruto philosophy of praising coolest guys
That has nothing to do with shadowself and the other ideas I brought up. You also have to be more specific.
>I am 100% sure Miyazaki has no idea what you came up with.
I am 100% sure that is your subjective opinion. He has read English books in his youth so he was introduced to European stuff early on pre-Berserk and if I am not mistaken he can read and write English just not speak it.
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>>490129994
REDDIT RAAAAAH SOILATTE
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>>490130736
The name is just to show how reprehensible he was to society and it’s fitting
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>>490128324
Miquella needs Radahn because Radahn robbed the Stars of the control of Carians and Nox Fate to become the liege of Eternal Cities, Albinaurics and others.
Miquella's Order is an Order of Light and Unalloyed Gold, the Light Radahn.
He needs Radahn to embrace all beyond the casuality of the Golden Order, which affects only those whose Fate is drawn from grace.
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>>490130785
>mobile phone screencap
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>>490130982
>NOOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWD TO HAVE FUN!!!!!!!
Youre the problem with this website.
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>>490131221
You can go back anytime.
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>>490131161
>mobile phone
????
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Dead game, dead thread. The DLC really mindbroke you guys, huh?
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>>490131447
>he thinks this is actually clever
Pathetic little faggot you are.
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>>490130812
I have to admit I want to murder someone viciously when they call Malenia Melania.
Fuck you, Melaniafags!
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>>490131697
yeah unfortunately
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>>490131702
How mad are you right now redditor? Very.
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>>490124949
Do you have to nitpick every little thing I say? Every time I say something you come out of the woodwork I know it's you, I could say the sky is blue and you'd say "mimimimi but sometimes the sky is black at night or orange at sunset!!! mimimimi" I know what you're doing, fuck you fuck you fuck you
Can you not just take what I say at it's actual face value?
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>>490130785
Tolkien is an ang*oid who made vintage capeshit.
Miyazaki makes kino of the highest order drawing inspiration from wester, eastern and middle eastern philosphers.
>>490128324
To affect everyone's Fate, Miquella's emblem is a Ring of Light, he quite literally stole the Fate of the Stars when Radahn's soul resurrected
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>>490131931
Lmao yeah im FUMING bro. Keep going, i beg you, I love when third worlders expose themselves.
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>>490132107
He uses literal gravity magic and you think he was not Radahn friend?
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>>490124778
nigga
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it's insane how much Torrent trivializes the fight with the Elden Beast but it's such a dogshit boss that I don't feel guilty using him lol
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>>490129994
Basically dragonslayer katana and hoping that the RNG doesn't favor his bullshit DS1 hitboxes.
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whos the schizo of the day
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>gyoubu ripoff gaius has a remembrance
>doesn't even have his own unique ost
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>>490132472
>>490129994

Oh, and play aggressive. Slap his shit.
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>>490132548
We decided earlier, it's you.
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>>490124778
Gaius and Radahn have the same emblems and motives that appear in Ordina.
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>>490132557
>sword lance is upgraded with smithing stones
>can change it's ash of war
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>>490130192
>In the book titled “You Died”, Miyazaki told the author in an interview that he has been working closely with Ryan Morris from Frognation on the localization of Souls games since Demon’s Souls.
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>>490132129
>reddit racism
>kino is when le everything is incomplete and heccin subversive

You really convinced me anon
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>>490118268
6ft soiface vs 5'11
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>>490117712
Miss Chalice by beloved
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Why couldn’t miquella simply bring some real knights rather than bunch of joggers with mental issues into the shadow land?
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>>490133615
uhh ehhhhhhhhhh
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Is it time to admit Igon is reddit as fuck?
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any ideas for spellcaster fashion?
t. boring tard who defaults to a banished knight's set
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>>490133615
Stop asking logical questions
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>could heal freyja's rot (somehow)
>had spare miquella's needles (leda's sword ash of war)
>cleanrot knights are all fucked up (for some reason)
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>>490133760
vagabond -> knight -> tree sentinel
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>>490132898
>t. anglo
>>490133615
Tarnished are immortal and he can charm them with the Great Rune until it breaks
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>>490134162
we are the only "immortal" tarnished left
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>>490117089
Just make co-invasions easier, it's that simple.

-3v2 reds ideally if ps4/Xone can't handle 3v3 (6 players in the field).
-Solo host invasions when they are rune-arced
-bosses give you rune arc status by default
-maybe cap over-leveled phantom attack rating to the hosts but keep all other stat-scaling the same as is

Now all that is reasonable and should be the default but I like your reward ideas on top of the current rune arc and runes we get. It would be nice to have a least ONE area with auto-invasions/summons like a covenant area like the Woods or Gank city which would then create a hotspot for activity but I don't see that happening.
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>>490134162
t. buckbroken subhuman
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Remember how that one anti-Godwyn autist was losing his mind the other day about the wandering mausoleums
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how dumb love stricken is ranni and the carian women as a whole
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>>490133760
What kind of spells?
For Sorcery the most classical thing is to go full Wizard. Use one of the many big hats in the game; Rannis, Rogiers, Seluvis, that blood knight one. There's a few.
For incants it depends on what incants youre using
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>>490134459
mutt's law
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>>490134740
Soulless Demigods don't die, that's their point you stupid retard, they are stuck woth their soul taken away because they can't die
Stupid nigger
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>>490134234
wrong
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>>490135086
Pringles can
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MESSMER LORE??? (REAL) ??
weeping peninsula secrets
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>>490135028
>their point
Can you shit up the thread with your headcanon about how Godwyn still has his soul again? I'm thinking we need even more retards spewing garbage right now.
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>>490135482
Nothing in the lore says that Godwyn is dead, just that he DID die. Past tense, implying he's alive.
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>>490135272
It's a grave of Demi-humans, so yeah, probably
>>490135482
>Godwyn still has his soul again?
Who told you that? Stupid retard
>Their
It's the point of Soulless Demigods, illiterate not just retarded. The Mausoleums are prisons for Sacrificial Demigods
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holy fucking shit guys i just saw godwyn walk past my house
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OH MY GOD GUYS A RANNI DOLL JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE WTF IS GOING ON?
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>>490135747
>calling others illiterate
Lmfao.
Oh and remind us why Godwyn couldn't work because he's alive according to you, even though Miq took Mohgs soul?
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>>490136127
>Oh and remind us why Godwyn couldn't work because he's alive according to you
Godwyn's body is alive
>even though Miq took Mohgs soul?
LOLLLOL
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>>490136247
Oh what, now you wont spend 3 hours explaining completely contradictory information you made up?
What happened? ):
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>>490135994
A second ranni doll has hit the fingers
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>>490136421
>Mohg's soul
lol
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>YOU SEE A LONG TIME AGO THERE WAS A BIG [HEADCANNON] THAT CAUSED [HEADCANNON] TO SPREAD ACROSS SPACE AND EVENTUALLY LIFE AROSE BECAUSE [HEADCANNON]
Why is it always scizo babble?
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>>490136503
I guess it is difficult to try to reexplain things you just made up on the spot. I dont blame you. Maybe next time!
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>>490124853
The voice acting is in English and most of the complaints against the translation are dumb, but at times it just straight up strips out the few small shreds of characterization we have for the demigods for no reason, turning them stoic and perfectly composed in all circumstances. I surprised Ranni's moe moments managed to survive, I guess they were too explicit to cut out.
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I've always imagined Ranni as a booky femcel who's overwhelmed by the pure sexual energy of my character. This is how I cope with my sexual frustration irl.
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>>490136761
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>>490136949
>Mohg's soul
LOLLOLOL
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>>490137008
thats cute
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>dlc lore
stfu it sucks and we know for a fact they rewrote/scrapped at least 70% of it
it doesn't matter
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>>490134925
i'll mainly be using the sword sorceries
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>>490137172
>ELDEN RING Shadow of the Erdtree reaches 5 million units sold worldwide.
nah
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>>490136985
On the same note of characters being needlessly stoic, after hearing this line on another playthrough, I'm convinced whomever directed Melina's voice actor was just straight up incompetent. Giving an understated performance is fine, but you can overdo it, and this is one of the few lines where she should have come alive. As it stands, the only time she sounds human is when she's begging you to stay away from the Frenzied Flame.
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>>490134976
You are brown
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>>490135086
The bottom shoulder would give her a third pit above it.
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>>490137669
what
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>>490136642
It's not headcanon at all. The DLC is surprisingly clear and explains a lot.
Humans, including all the Ancient Dynasties that came from the Stone Coffins, were created by the Greater Will when it fractured the One Great into Life.
This confirms that thr Ancient Dynasties are space people that terraformed and inhabited the Lands Between before their downfall, when the Nox caused the ire of the Greater Will and Metyr and the Fingers lost contact.
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>been using fire knight seal
>find out dragon communion shits all over it
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>>490137847
>when it fractured the One Great into Life.
And this happened because...?
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>>490137847
That is Ymir'a korean headcanon
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>>490137315
>1/5th of original sales for half the development time
lul

>>490137282
So the Carian sorceries? There's a ton of Carian themed stuff.
Carian Knight set in Raya Lucaria. Both Glintstone sets from Sellens quest, all the Glintstone masks. Battlemage Set. Royal Knight armor. Again Rogiers Set, Seluvis set, and Ranni set
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>>490137950
>Why did God create Life
good question
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>>490137847
where?
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Is there an advantage to not locking onto enemies? I notice that most of the really good no-hit challenge runners never do it and keep their cameras free the whole time.
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>>490137974
All Ymir says is confirmed by Hyetta
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>>490138103
This picture confuses me. Why is Malenia Chris
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why do people take everything here at face value, is it autism
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>>490137981
>5 million copies in 3 days
>Boosted the originak game sales of several millions
>Brought the biggest quartely profits number ever to Bandai Namco
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>>490137890
You're supposed to cast with a strong seal while holding the meme seal in the other hand to benefit from the passive bonuses.
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I wanted more Eclipse stuff, to be honest.
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>>490138103
You can walk sideways faster.
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>>490133760
just burself (for me it's generic rugged adventurer until I get later into the game and have enough INT to look nicer)
I'll farm the liurnia blue armorset later and see if I like it
there's also so many robes in the game, mix and match shit
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>>490138324
>lust provoking image
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>>490138420
how much they're paying you bro
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>>490138103
The lock on feature is the biggest trap that exists in any Elden Ring. A lot of noobs or people who've developed bad habits from Dark Souls are misled by the lock on feature in Elden ring. They have no conception of when NOT to use it and so it traps them into tunnel visioned gameplay. (Often leading to many confusing and unnecessary deaths).

If people just knew that locking on is almost never more beneficial than not locking on, these games would be so much easier for them. I’m not saying it doesn’t have its uses. It’s fantastic for quick enemies that circle you such as imps or kindred of rot. It’s just that in fromsoft games as a whole, this mechanic is an absolute trap for new players.

So if you’re getting tilted by the camera, pay attention to how you use this feature. It gets more people killed than it keeps them alive. A lot of this relates to melee only. Obviously, locking on with ranged attacks is smart. Nobody is debating this though as it’s incredibly obvious and not the point of this post.
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>>490137847
headcanon
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How about you lock on to this fucking dick
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>>490138485
THIS is the Eclipse
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>>490138103
Why are you posting the exact same question as the one you posted yesterday word for word
Odd
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>>490138145
Hyetta's a corpse who wants to melt the world I'm not trusting her either
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>>490138181
because she's based
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DAMN HE'S DOING TRICKS ON THE SHIT
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>>490138103
Yes. You should use camera lock sparingly. It's a tool, and abusing it just makes it impossible to tell what's happening.
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>>490138702
I guess Griffith being carried by Zodd was a fitting final piece of fanservice.
Maybe they can find some other story to pick over for their next game.
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>>490138324
She wouldn't even understand what was going on, until I feed her my shabriri grapes and give her the three fingers.

Give me that frenzied-flamussy.
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>>490138590
Skill issue, if lock on causes you problems you simply suck.
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So every Empyrean was just a container that some God-force had been sealed away in?
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>>490139223
we don't know
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>>490117712
this is from one of the most popular elden ring 'lore channels' btw
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>>490139223
Idk
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>>490139260
After Mesmer all the eye shit as well as the Soreseals seem a lot more suspect.
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>>490139079
Learning when to lock on and when to play unlocked is a skill.
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>>490139454
No its a crutch. You didnt beat the game.
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>>490139310
grim
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>>490138485
I think they recognized the Godwyn/Deathblight stuff was one of the more interesting things in the game to explore but just completely blew it due to time constraint.
I mean the fact that the Frenzy guys in Abyssal Forest are first referred to as "Winter Lanterns" and then have a completely different name later screams to me that they not only missed/forgot shit but also just had to piecemeal a lot of the final parts together
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>>490139520
I played the game as the devs intended.
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>>490139689
>braggart's roar
sorry bro you didn't
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>>490139689
Oh so you also used spirit ashes? Yikes, double didn't beat the game.
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i unlock for waterfowl dance btw
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pvchads, did new stuff like deflect tear, more feints, new weapon types or talismans change your playstyle/tactics significantly?
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>>490138324
I just want to know how would the women react to being to proposed by the Tarnished
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>>490139904
you didn't beat her
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>>490125229
Because the question is why? It collects sap so fucking what, we don't even know what the Scadutree is besides being "the Shadow of the Erdtree" which is zanzibart level slop.

>>490117126
The lore subreddit is so dogshit, it's half "the most obvious shit of all time" lore reveals being treated as genius and half failed Engish majors D-grade creative writing assignment.
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Why would an INT mage design something like this?
Why would an INT mage need a weapon like this when they can shoot blue rocks already?
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>>490138962
>fanservice
No "fan" liked it, even though the whole story about the Fate of the Carians was central to it and Radahn was ambiguously fencesitting between being a protector of Sellia, Nox, Misbegotten and Lions, andbring a Golden Order fanboy
It's not fanservice, it's the conclusion to Miquella's plot which actually explains Radahn's allegiance and motives.
There has been a constant crying about Miyazaki not doing fanservice except maybe The Old Hunters, since when people complained Manus wasn't the Furtive Pygmy, missing the point the latter being just the first man and not a boss.
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>>490139674
>That one catacomb with the unique traps and the 3 elevators that make it feel like you're going deeper than any of the others did
>It's just another death knight boss and copypasted le godwyn face
Alright then.
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Which ER girl has the fattest bush, now that the DLC is out?
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>>490139689
Using a colossal weapon on Malenia for even a moment is a sin that playing 800 hours as a wretch with a whip will not redeem you from.
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>>490139079
You'll understand once you face Bayle. This fight will teach the majority of players not to abuse the lock-on mechanic. What I ended up doing lock on when not attacking to it just to keep an eye on what it was doing. When i was on the offense, I simply did it without the camera unlocked. People used to not think too much about the camera, even in hard soulsgames like Sekiro and LoP, but ER forces it to be on your mind. Miyazaki decided that the camera should no longer be free or an afterthought and be a skill based mechanic itself.
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>>490140109
>Jar Cannon
>Experimental firearm brought to the assault on Volcano Manor, where it was discovered that no one knew how to use it.
>Fast Forward to the DLC
>
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>>490140223
Had no issues staying locked on the whole time with Bayle. Simply get better.
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>Shabriri cherry

>A yellowing, oozing prostate of the infirm. The surface is shriveled, and the inside is squishy, not unlike a large, overly-ripe cherry.

>Give to the blind maiden to guide her to the distant light.
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>>490140171
None of them shave it all but Freyja is the only one gross enough to neglect trimming. Next stupid question.
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>>490140003
i got the remembrance tho
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>>490140150
Headcanon
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>>490140150
Radahn felt like a weird kowtow to all the retarded powerwank fans who have spent years talking about how cool it would be to fight Artorias in his prime.
So the checked-out devs were like, alright have Radahn in his prime.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb48M_j1T30&t=2090s

KIIIIIINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>Igon staggering Bayle with a final arrow to the face, allowing me to get the killing visceral
Cinema
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>>490140297
you lock on proponents are delusional. gitting gud at just pressing a button? ridiculous. manual control is much more skillful and that's why you're rewarded when you git gud at it with a camera that doesn't spaz out. as for Bayle, he's constantly trying walk over you and your only lock on point is his head. this will cause the camera to go berserk. it was probably intentional from Miyazaki to get people to stop drinking the lock on coolaid.
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>>490140150
>It's not fanservice, it's the conclusion to Miquella's plot which actually explains Radahn's allegiance and motives.
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>>490140352
What are their favourite food?
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>>490140750
Locking off is a crutch and lets you cheese the boss's tracking.
>your only lock on point is his head. this will cause the camera to go berserk
Not if you position correctly. Lock off abuse is cheese.
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I read that the Shadows of the Erdtree map is supposed to fit right into the base game map
does anyone have an image of that? I'd like to see
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>>490141003

IIRC the DLC map is, in real in-game scale, slightly too big, but the implication is still there, with the Suppressing Pillar stating that it's at the center of the Lands Between.
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>the DUNG can riposte
That's pretty neat I guess.
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>>490140770
Freyja's favorite food was hard tack, boiled fatty pork and wine but miquella introduced her to desserts and sweets and now it's elephant ears and vanilla custard with boba
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>>490140601
yeah bayle is extremely strong, he should be dragonlord
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>>490137806
She has six pits in total
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>>490141163
I see
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>>490140484
>alright have Radahn in his prime
It's actually not. It's him in his younger years before he mastered gravity magic and conquered the stars. Very in-character for Mike to choose a worse (but hotter) version of his brother. Maybe you could argue Mohg's power made up for any shortcomings though.
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>>490141003
https://www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingLoreTalk/comments/1dsmai3/overlaid_maps_after_normalizing_size_interesting/
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>>490141003
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>>490138485
the lands between had two suns. one was eclipsed
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>>490140750
The DLC also has bosses that are specifically designed to fuck with your camera or obscure your view with particle effects and AOEs. Miyazaki is really going hard on the fact that you shouldn't rely on your camera playing the game for you. The dancing lion is meant to be your earliest lesson about not using lock on too much.

>>490140993
>attack Bayle
>Bayle lifts head and walks over you
>have to get out from under him as the camera spins wildly
That's why you shouldn't use lock on. No matter what you do, Bayle will try to walk on you. It's probably on purpose to screw with lock on.
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>>490140484
>Radahn felt like a weird kowtow to all the retarded powerwank fans
No it wasn't, it was the intended boss.
The only reason you feel this way is that you wanted fanservice and don't actually care about the story.
If Miquella wants to create an Order that embraces ALL in the Lands Between, he needs as vessel the Lord who controls the Fate of those who draw it from the Stars rather than Erdtree's grace. This is also the rationale behind the various endings and embedding different rules through mending runes in the Elden Ring, which changes your personal Order, like putting the Cursemark of Death to create Life in Death.
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what's a spell machinist?
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>>490141337
>>490141402
which one is it?
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This guy comes across as a low level From employee who was something like a 3D designer who made the Frenzy rats. Who can barely speak english but will defend the lore to death no matter how much bullshit he has to make up.
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>>490141461
>Bayle lifts head and walks over you
>have to get out from under him as the camera spins wildly
You failed at positioning. Not sure what else to say but git gud.
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I want to replay the DLC with a new char and do a poleblade of the bud run, since I was pretty bummed at getting it so late in the DLC?
What's the fastest route to take to get to Romina while killing the least amount of boss?
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>>490141301
Hehehehe that's actually the image I wanted to post with it but like I couldn't find it
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>>490139821
>spirit ashes?
>Yikes, double didn't beat the game.

Sometimes the real elden ring is the friends you made along the way
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>>490141598
CE
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>>490141472
Radahn was always going to be the final boss of the DLC and his vow with Miquella was always a plot point, but that doesn't make it any less retarded for 90% of players when they hear about it. It's an underdeveloped and unearned plot point.
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>>490140171
>>490140352
Leda:
Grows and shaves at irregular intervals, she's too high-strung to trim it into shape.

Freyja:
Like that anon said, doesn't give a fuck, only shaves the body parts that are exposed with her armor.

Rellana:
Thick, black and wiry, neatly kept into a large triangle that nearly reaches her navel like I saw on some 80/90s porn actress once.

Romina:
She can peel back her invertebrate part to reveal yet another weird chitinous growth in place of pubic hair, which is not unappealing however.

Trina:
Just like the face peeking out from the flower, there's a vagina hidden just below, draped by fragrant purple petals.
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>>490140751
You have no argument and your understanding of the game is lower than surface level.
You are a Redditor throwing a tantrum over a story you didn't get. Miquella's Order only mechanically makes sense with Radahn. There's a clear cut logic over him needing the Starscourge to create an Order of Unalloyed Gold and Light.
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>>490141563
kek
>>490141734
makes me wonder if the shadow lands wasn't even planned
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>>490141847
nice image, 4channer
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>>490141567
Sure, yeah, Bayle can charge across the arena and has attacks with tons of forward momentum that will place him on top of you even if you dodge backwards. Next you'll be defending the lock on in the dancing beast fight as great and just a matter of positioning.
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>>490141402
>Leyndell was built atop a crater lake
Neat.
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base game is better than the dlc in every way.
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>>490141847
>makes sense
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>>490141960
>Sure, yeah, Bayle can charge across the arena and has attacks with tons of forward momentum that will place him on top of you even if you dodge backwards.
Look I get playing without the lock off crutch is hard, not my problem. Literally git gud.
>Next you'll be defending the lock on in the dancing beast fight as great and just a matter of positioning.
It's actually fine apart from when you get backed into a wall, the arena is kinda shit but again, it's a matter of positioning.
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>>490142072
i agree
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>>490141960
Dancing lion camera is perfectly fine. Don't position yourself on its ass or let it corner you. You just need to git gud.
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>>490141690
>Sometimes the real elden ring is the friends you made along the way

What he didn't know was that the altus plateau was their very own... teenage wasteland.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JGHxIKa31Jk
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>>490141734
looks like china, Thailand, Korea and Japan
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>>490142072
dlc soundtrack is better but only dorks care about souls soundtracks
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>mountaintops of the giants
>is another plateau
what else are we being lied to about?
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>>490140484
correct
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>>490141758
Normalfaggots not understanding Miyazaki stories until several years of loretubers catching enough glipses of actual lore analysis is as old as Souls games themselves.
Very few if any actually understood Dark Souls 3 and spread the metanarrative theory of "I don't want to do this game" which is complete bullshit and you have to go to actual obscure places to find lorefags that put effort.
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>shitty easy boss in a cave
>every bloodstain is someone mashing r1 and trading with the boss or rollspamming to death
How are these people real
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>>490142148
>>490142113
As usual, people who complain about game systems are just bereft of skill. There is not a single boss in ER with a "bad camera." It always comes down to noobs not knowing how to play the game right.
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For me, it's Chaos.
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>>490141473
Rabbath had such high INT that he realized he should just build guns instead of waving a staff around.
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>>490141472
>No it wasn't, it was the intended boss.
>The only reason you feel this way is that you wanted fanservice and don't actually care about the story.
>If Miquella wants to create an Order that embraces ALL in the Lands Between, he needs as vessel the Lord who controls the Fate of those who draw it from the Stars rather than Erdtree's grace.
What the actual fuck are you talking about
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>>490142072
I feel like SOTE was a lot more condescend so it was nicer to move from place to place. Base game was needlessly far apart sometimes.
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>>490142443
So much this. ER's camera is perfect as it weeds out the shitters from the pros.
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>>490142443
>noobs not knowing how to play the game right.
Noobs not being asian or autistic enough isn't an excuse for shitty camera. Other games do it better.
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>>490142606
>>490142443
>samefagging
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>>490140770
>Ranni
She seems like she really fucks with cheese. Probably fondue.
>Malenia
She still copies her "big brother" giving her a rather unrefined palette and taste for sweets.
>Marika
Carnivore. Anything roasted on a spit.
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>>490142651
The camera isn't shitty. Git gud. Learn how to position yourself.
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>>490141923
Allegedly it was the starting point of the lore.
Most of the general background lore seems to just be GRMM rehashing game of thrones but every major house had a godly force like the Great Other/R'hollor behind them.
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>>490142809
It's more like Martin was asked to make a more high fantasy setting and so he just decided to ape Tolkien a bit and add his own personal touch to it. Honestly it's a much better concept than ASoIAF and he probably should have just dropped everything and wrote another trilogy with it.
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>>490141598
>What's the fastest route to take to get to Romina while killing the least amount of boss?
Ignoring player level and equipment:
>collect two dectus halves (limgrave and dragonbarrow)
>go to altus to trigger Radahn festival
>kill Radahn
>do Varre's quest, tp to Mohg and kill him
>start dlc
>run to fort of reprimand, then moorth ruins and bonny village
>enter shadow keep from the church district
>get to ruins of rauh
>kill Romina

I don't remember if Varre moves his ass until you kill Godrick or not so you might have to kill him too.
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>So much this
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>>490141847
>You are a Redditor
Immediate loss of an argument
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>>490142072
I liked Abyssal Woods and Shadow Fort. Rauh Ruins could have been good if it weren't so visually monotone and filled with dull enemies.
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>>490142563
See, you don't even know how the Elden Ring works, what Casuality is and what "Fate" actually means, how can you possibly even think you know if the DLC story is a retcon or intended?
I mean, 90% of players still confuse the fettering of the Stars by the Golden Order when Marika created it with grace to affect her people's Fate instead with Radahn becoming Starscourge, thinking they are the same thing.
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>>490141473
you'll see in the next game
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>>490142787
Nioh 2 is better.
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>>490141163
>>490142763
Thanks
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>this is considered a "bad" camera
All of the scrubs who shit and moan about the camera just need to git gud. The hippo is completely readable here and the guy is getting fucked because he's spamming. You can tell when a large boss is going to attack because they basically move their whole body.
>so I need to read their gut movements
YES.
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Time to repost kino cringecore comic
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>>490136528
Stay strong, brother. It gets better.
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>>490142407
>He tries to laud over other people
>Doesn't remember his first souls-like
We were all retards mashing R1 and getting hit by stupid shit at one point
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>>490143892
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>>490141560
Both and neither. Miyazaki didn't really care to autistically match the map sizes. The gif one just slaps the map jpgs on top of each other disregarding in-game scale. The plebbit one tried to match it based on the distance traveled on foot.
Ideally shadow lands would fit in the space without overlapping but you can't do that without "lying" a bit.
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>>490144020
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>>490143892
>>490144020
>>490144158
I don't like that
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>>490143860
You trying to make git gud posts over the camera is really pathetic. They're not funny, even in a stupid way. They're not anger inducing because they're retarded. And they're not insightful, because they're retarded. Yet you put all this effort into it.

>BUT YOU REPLIED TO ME!!!!
Ok. Now do something else man.
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>>490138485
Now that I've had a closer look at these eyes, I can safely tell (You) all to look at the golden hippo eyes because I'm 90% sure they've got Godwyn's death colours.
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>>490144158

>>490144235
How come? It's kinda tint bit cringe (this page esspecially) but like once you get over that hump I think it's neat and like I really like that third page
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>>490143109
Thanks. Seems like the easiest one. Don't really care about Godrick so we'll see.
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>>490141847
stars guiding fate is literally never mentioned in the DLC
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>>490144132
The Shattering canonically altered both maps with a ripple effect, creating Peaks and making entire areas crumble
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>>490144396
yeah because it's cringe
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>>490142763
delete this Malenia is VERY refined
I think she'd have a taste for wine given her classy demeanor and the name of her knights.
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>>490144396
Finit

>>490144629
But I said it was kino cringecore that means it's cringe but good, right?
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>>490144362
Well yeah, Hippos are also aquatic.
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>>490144362
sup bro
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>>490144362
https://x.com/zlofsky/status/1813393964898324490
https://x.com/Zlofsky2nd/status/1819133135705223518
"No"
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>>490144560
Yes it is. Miquella's Great Rune explains how Miquella's intention is
Miquella's Order embraces all because Miquella buries the original sin, Marika's sin or usurping grace to create an Order of Gold that excludes those who aren't her people.
Miquella's Order is based on light and Radahn's conquest of the Stars (Radahn's weapons)
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>>490144619
I've always had the impression that certain areas were also artificially raised or sunk using very powerful gravitational magic.
Raya Lucaria, for example, has clearly been lifted upwards to avoid sinking with the rest of the surrounding area.
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>>490140770
>waterfowl (waterfowl dance)
>wine (noblerot knights)
>wheat symbol on her cauldron
>associated with mushrooms

Malenia's favorite dish is roasted duck in sweet red wine sauce, garnished with mushrooms and served with fresh-baked baguette-style bread. She sometimes has it with a glass of wine but usually just drinks lots of water.
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>>490145370
This is actually true!
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>>490144918
These guys were probably intended for the base game, another creature that had been chowing down on death and become infected like the crabs
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>>490137003
>causes the worst death imaginable for her brother
>has a dog she likes a little too much
>hangs out with rejects like Iji and incels like Seluvis
yep
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>>490145183
>Miquella: We're going to accept EVERYONE equally, even the ROTFAGS
>Haligtree rots and dies
Commies never learn.
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>>490145370
Would she eat those things though, it's related to her, sure, but it would remind her of rot.
>>490145489
I do wonder why he's all fucked up.
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My headcanon, there is no Greater Will. Elden Beast and Metyr are aliens, people in the lands between mistaken them as arbiters and representatives of the GW.
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>>490145370
>cauldron
*pauldron
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You guys were right, Dragon Communion fucks. It looks so goofy from the outside but when you smack bosses for 1800 damage at level 40 it's kinda fucking crazy.

The only thing I dislike is that the only good breath for DPS is fucking nasty ass rot breath
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>>490145662
Real Light Order has never been tried
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>>490145754
I also believe that too, that the GW isn't even real
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>>490145705
>I do wonder why he's all fucked up.
Immortality+Blindly reproducing = Cancer
I wish the Duskborn ending just explicitly said you're making Godwyn's body mortal so he can just fucking die instead of giving skeletons voting rights or whatever the fuck Fia is on about.
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I like Thiollier more than Ansbach
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>>490145705
Maybe not mushrooms but it fits the theme (and they taste good). Miquella's Haligtree has a wine cellar and wheat in barrels everywhere so bread and wine is well established in Canon even independent of its associations with Malenia. Duck is just good meat and would be plentiful in streams she probably would like to train at. Birds in general were also good sources of meat in premodern days and she'd need a protein-heavy diet to stay fit. Though for bulk she'd probably just hunt a giant lobster or runebear, but this is her preferred meal, not her dirty bulk cycle.
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>>490145183
The original sin is letting fuckers have free will, this was the GW's biggest mistake.
Goldmask knows.
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>>490133615
Leda would kill them all
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>>490145972

He is literally me for real.
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As silly as the whole Mohg redemption meme is, I guess it could help explain why he was blocking the path to the three fingers in the sewers. Not sure that's worth all the other complications though.
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What boss do you just not bother fighting fairly? for me its the briar guy and his bell hunters I always parry him to death
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>>490133615
Malenia is still fully combat capable, could've soloed the DLC with little to no Scooby Snacks, and also had an entire army including many boss tier characters like Loretta under her command and this is literally never mentioned by anyone, not even Leda.
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>>490146745
>parrying is not a fair tactic against a parryable boss
??? Next you're gonna say using the Serpent Hunter against Rykard isn't a fair tactic.
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>>490147012
It isnt
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>made it to what I presume to be the final DLC boss
>still using Moonveil
I just wanted a cool DLC weapon...
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>>490146690
I like to think that pre-Miquella Mohg was based in the sewers, guarding the 3 fingers, and his followers were like Ansbach and the sanguine nobles, more about refinement and developing bloodflame-based combat techniques. After his enchantment he moved to those Siofra ruins and turned his followers into bloodthirsty killers in order to fertilize the cocoon. The white masks, pozzed albinaurics and Mohgwyn Palace being a generally gore-filled hellhole all happened in this second stage.
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>>490147184
... so do it?
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>>490147184
The dlc only added like 4 weapons
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>>490147184
use it
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>>490147435
this isn't even a cool dlc weapon bro
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>>490147378
damn, really? i was going to buy it but that's fucking gay. fromsoft has lost the plot. even the ds1 dlc has more.
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>>490147435

based Carian
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>>490147557
No I'm lying there's like 100 I think
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>>490147685
why would you lie to me like that
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>>490147780
Idk I'm sorry I'm bored and have nothing much to do
Sorry
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>furnace golems
>they do their gay fucking chaos eater move
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>>490141847
If you will, I shall make the answer simple:

Miyazaki: Miquella x Tarnished ending too happy. Need edge. With some fanfare thrown in for good measure... what if we resurrect Radahn? And make it so the innocent child was the bad guy all along by manipulating the blood priest to be the vessel for him to justify it? Hehe... that satiates my masochistic urges... scrap it all last minute boys!

Radahn and Miquella was never supposed to happen. Don't attempt to rationalize it. It's disingenuous slop, and will never make sense.
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>>490148019
>Hehe... that satiates my masochistic urges... scrap it all last minute boys!
you rike it?
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>>490147545
nah it's cool. would be cooler if it was a straight sword though.
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>>490147435
his walking animation looks so goofy
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Dangit. I beat Morgott, but now I can't get into the Erdtree. Do I need to solve a cryptic puzzle to get in?
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>>490147120
this but unironically
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>>490148878
It's a sliding tile mini game puzzle yeah
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what's the point of these when you have glintstone pebbles?
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>>490148019
die pedo
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>>490148583
Kind of difficult to walk right after getting slammed by Miquella's God dong.
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>the Thrones... stained by my curse! Such a shame I cannot bear... thy part in this, shall NOT be forgiven!

Wait... was the "curse" Morgott "released" when we wounded him half way LITERALLY pus and abscess?!
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>>490149595
At least Mohg's wasn't that bad. Then again people are mostly riled and excited to see blood being spilled so yeah, the color red and stuff.
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>>490149595
No, I think he's just saying the fact that the last person standing guard at the tree against you is himself, who he doesn't think is like worthy of it
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>>490149487
My face should be that throne instead
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>>490149487
>tfw you will never be a trap with thicc thighs banging hot tomboys and milfs

It's a curse I tell ya.
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>>490149595
He spilt his omen blood on the thrones, "staining" them with his affliction. He didn't want to sully them with his accursed blood.
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>>490149487
Is there anymore pics of this Miquella?
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Wait, like
If Godwyn was just the first to die but like pretty immediately after Marika shattered the Elden Ring, then why isn't his throne in Morgott's Arena? Did Morgott like bother to remove the throne of a Demigod who died but not of like the 6 people he said were traitors?
If that'd the case, and if (and I say if because I personally don't think that anyone else died in the night of black knives, but most people seem to think that's true) like other demigods did die, were their Thrones removed too then and like the setup was a really weird setup with a bunch of chairs in a crowd facing Godfrey rather than the ring setup we see?
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I just realized Miquella and Malenia are a follow up to Lothric and Lorian
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>>490105623
He's not the best part he's just the more memeable one
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>>490150207
Radahn and Malenia hands wrote this post.
>>490150370
Imagine if every ethnicity, every race, everything, was just hot women and thicc thigh traps
>>490150715
Not that I know of.
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>>490151390
The same reason why Mohg, Mesmer and Melina didn't have thrones either: retcon
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>>490146690
Mohg, Morgott and Godfrey are the only beings we see able to create projections of themselves. And Godfrey's might just be some palace safeguard shit.

Why is this? Omen?
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>>490152375
Bro? Loretta?
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>>490152352
I mean Mohg not having a throne made sense, he's like banished to the sewers so like would never have been expected to have a throne. Messmer obviously didn't exist in the previous writings but like with that likenyou could image he was never meant to kinda be there, he was meant to do eternal crusade in the ahadowlands and Melina... who knows
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>>490151390
Why the fuck would they leave an empty throne, reminder of Godwyn's absence, you stupid retard??
That throne? Oh yeah is for the spreading abomination under our asses
Faggot
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>>490151421
you now realize that he was meant to ride on Malenia's back and give her orbital strikes, AOEs, and teleportation instead of Radahn

My dear twin, accept this gift.
A gift of abundance, my last drop of dew.
Let all things flourish,
whether graceful, or malign.
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>>490151390
>If Godwyn was just the first to die but like pretty immediately after Marika shattered the Elden Ring
Roger says there was a big gap between these two events. In that time Godrick likely inherited his throne and his title of the Golden.
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"The DLC story isn't shit you lorelet, here's why it's genius"
>schizophrenic headcanon

Literally every time
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>>490152672
Please don't be rude to me I was just trying to spur discussion I'm sorry
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>>490152802
it's never consistent schizo headcanon either. Every DLCfag has a completely different idea of what actually happened in it.
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>>490152532
Loretta and Godfrey appear to be Sorcery/Faith nonsense while Mohg and Morgott are literal copies of themselves, albeit weaker
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>>490152375
>Godfrey are the only beings we see able to create projections
I'm pretty sure that's just Morgott making that projection as both a safeguard and a "damn, I miss dad." Type thing.
Not sure why there's a fucking MISBEGOTTEN CRUSADER WITH MORGOTT'S HOLO-FAITH-LIGHT DESIGN IN TRINA'S DUNGEON, BUT OH WELL.
Trina is just a copy, no doubt made by her using Glinstone fuckery as she can do that since her greatbow is basically making a glinstone replica, and we know Carians know how to make puppets, so it checks out.
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>>490147279
i dunno i feel like it makes more sense if that was always their base of operations considering it says the beheld the formless mother 'deep underground', rather than delving down, meeting her, then coming back up until mickey makes him go back down and set up shop again.
it probably was less of a fucked up blood swamp though before
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In serious need of a Miquella/Leda shota mommy doujinshi rn
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Any Big D Communion chads in here who actually used all the spells and can gave me some Insight(TM)?

I was under the impression that;
Maw > Claw
Named Breath > Normal Breaths
Use Ezykys breath for basically everything

But now I'm finding out that
Claw does more overall damage, but is less Stance break and less Hyper armor
Most Normal breaths are actually better, due to being more efficient via FP usage
Smarag's glintstone actually does the most damage
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>>490142372
Miyazaki literally said that was the point of the narrative.
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>>490150441
>on the thrones
the whole arena bro
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>>490145970
All endings make his body mortal as the rune of death is freed
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>>490148019
Headcanon
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are there seriously no guides for dodging radahn's clones
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>>490153283
That misbegotten is meant to be miquella's shadowbeast its why he drops the spell
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>>490153804
Named spells have tracking and allow you to hover which can be handy, but yeah the standard ones are more FP-efficient and probably better overall for PVE. Claw is great if you can land it but where it falls behind maw is the hyperarmor — it’s super easy to get knocked out of it. I’ve also found the magic breath to the most damage on average, especially if you can land a frost breath (or pot) beforehand for the debuff. I’ve not used the magma or Bayle’s very much yet so can’t offer any thoughts on that.
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Leader of /erg/ here who has direct communication with miyazaki himself and one of martin's biggest fans that I gave some ideas to him he used in dunk and egg here:

Lore interpretations I like=based,redpilled,kino,not headcanon
Lore interpretations I dislike=cringe,bluepilled,slop,headcanon

These are facts. You should all behave as I do. So I decree. Pic related is cringe headcanon btw
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>>490154032
Well yeah I guess
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>>490154553
What about Ezykys vs the regular rot breath?
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>>490148019
>Radahn and Miquella was never supposed to happen. Don't attempt to rationalize it. It's disingenuous slop, and will never make sense.
Correct.
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>>490154902
Let's see
*click click click click click clickity clack click click clack clack
KA-CHUNK. KA-CHUNK.
DING zzzzzzzzzt*
Alright
Hmmm....
This is actually true! Congratulations, you're correct, anon
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>>490152327
Or perhaps I'm just a lonely Tarnished
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one two blue scadu
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>So you're telling me Tarnished that Miquella the kind went to war not to restore order but to make Radahn his bride?
>That the blooming happened because Malenia is a "Fujoshi" and she got so excited about Radahn becoming Miquella's bride she bloomed all over him?
>You're telling me this was all planned and he left his sister to die to rescue random redmane?
>He seduced Mohg and became a boytoy in a cocoon but at the same time seduced even more people?
>Then you went into his hand into a shadowland and defeated ancient warriors, collected a bunch of tree seeds that made you stronger and finally defeated Miquella as a god (and his boytoy/wife Radahn)?
>...
>Tarnished have you gone daft?
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Radahn and miquella loved eachother btw. Radahn was never brainwashed. The battle of aeonia was just malenia and radaun being gamers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAl3e6S2RCI
What are the lore implications of Godfrey having a Hank Hill ass? Is Marika so ass-obsessed that she merged with Radagon to steal his?
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>>490155183
NTA but Ekzyke's is strictly worse than Rotten Breath solely because their rot build-up is identical with a full cast and Ekzyke's costs WAY more FP.
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The Greater Will is an Outer God
>but the game never say-
Don't care, of course a religion would say that their God I'd annintrinsic part of the world and not categorized as the rest
>B- but hyetta says about the One Grea-
Don't care, the Frenzied Glame philosophy is based on melting stuff into 1 thing without distinctions, of course they'd have that view
>B- bu- but Ymir says that The Greater Will is everyth-
Don't care, e's a crazy tranny and see point one and two
>B- -bu- bu- b-b-b-
Don't care. Works on my machine/in my head.
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>>490155819
Based and Canon
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>>490154539
>That misbegotten is meant to be miquella's shadowbeast its why he drops the spell
You're being retarded on purpose, right
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ST. TRINA WAS MIQUELLA'S SHADOW
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>>490156018
Headcanon doesn't matter
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>>490154553
>>490155863
Thank you my friends. With this information I will out into the world and slay many disgusting fucking dragons
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>>490156175
Nope. It's true. Miyazaki told me in a dream he also told me we're never getting a bloodborne two but his next game will take inspiration from it with a different theme.
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>>490156389
It's not headcanon.
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What boils my blood into a frothing rage is when reddit normalfags go "ermmm it's the shadow of the erdtree TM" when asked "what is the scadutree"
Nowhere in the game does it say this
I hate this DLC
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>>490156018
Okay and in my head you're my bf. What now? Huh???
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Anyone got an image of all the eye alterations side by side?
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So true xisters...
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>>490156561
Yes it is.
>works in my head
Headcanon
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>>490156662
It
It does though
It also does pretty much in the dlc like immediately say it too and it's like parroted because like it's a non-answer that doesn't actually clarify anything butbrhe game pretends like itbdoes
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>>490156786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXOQk69lGq4
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>>490156760
That's a headcanon, mine isn't.
>>490156939
Nope, there's a difference between like interpretation and korean headcanon/headcanon
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>>490155814
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>>490157002
maybe I'm just FUCKING MAD because that is ACTUAL WORDBABBLE then
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>>490157114
There's no difference between interpretation and headcanon.
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>>490157214
Correct! That is why people say it, because it means nothing and is wordbabble. There's no answer as to what the Scadutree is. It's the shadow of the erdtree :)
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>>490156786
elden ring twitter is dogshit
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>>490157301
Is.
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>>490157114
>that's a headcanon
No it's an interpretation. There's lore that backs up the interpretation that you're my bf.
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>>490151390
Godwyn didn't die after Marika shattered the Elden Ring.

His half death and "assassination" was the breaking point and Marika Broke the Elden Ring.
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What is canon in this game anyway
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>>490157481
Show it then, and that doesn't even make any sense
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>>490157531
nothing because miyazaki is retarded
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>>490157531
Nothing, really. Every info may or may not be biased as hell.
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>>490157531
Elden Ring?
More like
Elden Stinks
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>>490157438
Cope. Try to argue ill ntr anon and plap you
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>>490157991
Its not cope, I just don't need more words to tell you you're wrong. You just are. That doesn't even like make any sense besides, I'm not dating that anon
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>>490156786
Despite having a gay character thanks to Jewish influence on the story, this game looks homophobic when weighed against BGIII or any other modern Western title.
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>>490157569
Let's see here description for >>490156018
"Post made by alex's bf, upon replying acquire one (you)"
My name is Alex
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>>490157950
mixed feelings
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>>490158256
That's not a thing
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>>490158171
>im not dating that anon
He seems convinced. Sounds like you're hiding it
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What's a cool spear ash, lil buddies
I want to use the clayman's harpoon a little
I'm too addicted to wild strikes doing a fuckton of damage and stance damage and I can't think of something similar for spears
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>>490158429
We're not dating idk who that is
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>>490158492
ice spear
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>>490158385
It is. I just read part of the item description to you.
>>490158429
He's being coy, we're dating.
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>>490158492
Something that shoots a projectile, so like you can imagine it like as either like a like spear gun or treat it like an extension of the spear/stabbing further
>>490158635
That doesn't make any sense, that's not a thing
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>>490158635
I believe you anon.
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>>490158601
>>490158759
I'm an INT build nigga I already shoot blue rock
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>>490158759
Makes perfect sense if you read the item descriptions or pay attention to any npc dialog.
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Dark souls intro, lore, and plot be like
>Here's how the world got created, here's a preview of the bosses and also the furtive pygmy (so easily forgotten)
>You're undead and will lose your mind! You need to ring the bells. Then you can enter the city of the gods, get the lordvessel so you can succeed lord gwyn, who you know from the intro!
>Get some souls from bosses you saw in the intro and these four kings! But also if you go off the beaten path you can receive a simple exposition dump that completely recontextualizes the entire plot, and you understand immediately!
>Go and fight gwyn (who you know from the intro!) And make your choice what you'll do... While you may only have headcanon for the future and what it all means, at least you have a clear picture of what it means to link the fire!
Elden ring intro, lore, and plot be like
>Ouuughhhh gods are around... one of them died... you're a tarnished... Here's a bunch of other tarnished, most of these guys are barely in the game... And we won't explain what a tarnished is!
>Uhhh you're wandering around, you don't have a maiden! No we won't explain what a maiden is. Thankfully there's this lady who will give you a horse... Oh here's roundtable hold! No one will explain what a tarnished is. This place is lead by the two fingers...
>Okay it turns out you need to get runes or something. The two fingers are actual fingers! Then you can go to the capital and visit that big cool tree! There's some kind of god in charge
>Get runes, visit tree, turns out it can't be accessed!!!! You have to burn it with a fire and your maiden needs to be the kindling for some reason! But also you need to get the Rune of Death aka Destined Death in order to kill marika, or something
>Enter a floating city for some reason. Wtf there's a big dog? He has the death. Take it
>Kill lion man. Fight Radahn? Radagon? Why is the husband the final boss? And then you fight a space thing and sit on a throne. Go watch vaati, retard!
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>>490158876
ICE.
SPEAR.
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>>490159173
Ok but don't forget that everyone is also a zombie with no canon explanation
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what if messmer was a girl
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>>490159441
I can't think of how it would be better than Malenia.
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>>490158759
I recognize this poster how have you been sleeping
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>>490159526
snakejobs
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>>490159641
I'm not convinced...
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>>490159173
>be like
Have you considered that adding ebonics to your post doesn't make it automatically entertaining?
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I'm trying to beat malenia for the first time. I keep getting hit by her small flurry attack. Not her big jumping slashes but her fast normal flurry of swipes. My reaction speed is kind of slow so I tend not to be able to roll the first few slashes in time.
Is there a trick to when she uses it?
At first I thought it was a roll catch vs rolling away but sometimes it seems like she does it at random.
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>>490159173
you're right and made bitches seethe
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What's the equivalent to this?
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>>490159735
Actual feet not metal
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>>490160017
Theres an audio cue and sparks come out of her hand
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>>490159441
she would still have mommy issues, but I'd make her a mom too
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>>490160017
If you can dodge the asylum demon you can dodge malenia
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>>490159173
Dark souls was just as vauge and you only think it wasn't because it's overall simpler and 13 years old so you know it well
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>>490160147
dang is that the only cue to work with? I haven't been able to react fast enough to roll it from that.
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>>490160017
Block it.
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>>490160273
It happens before she jumps forward, you should have plenty of time.
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>>490159173
>>490160087
Samefag as fuck.
Also it's more like this.
Dark Souls: A....B....C....E
DLC/Sidequest: C....D

Elden Ring: A....B....D....R....S....Z....C....M
DLC/Sidequest: 15...16...32
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>>490160285
I guess I could try greatshield again. I've been trying to roll everything because she could heal so much.
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>>490160980
what does that even mean
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>>490160980
you're wrong
but you're right and made bitches seethe
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>>490160106
As in a strong pve option that can be acquired early like in DS1? Golden halberd.
As in halberd with unique R2s? Nightrider glaive.
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>>490160271
>Dark souls was just as vauge
No it isn't. It is simpler, that makes it less vague. It has very clear answers within the game for basically everything, and rarely ever gives you any stupid out of left field stuff in terms of the narrative. Certainly nothing as stupid as throwing around the phrase 'Empyrean'
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>>490160271
more vague*
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>>490161271
Stealing your line for myself
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>invasions were harshly nerfed in ER
>people are still complaining that le evil red man runs towards enemies to get help
Hahaha fromsoft is never fixing invasions at this point, the way people are reacting to it shows them that thats how they want it to be so we'll be lucky if they decide to keep invasions as it is currently in the next game
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>>490158876
Idk
>>490158987
There's nothing about us in the game
>>490159574
Not well
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>>490160271
>Dark souls was just as vauge and you only think it wasn't because it's overall simpler and 13 years old so you know it we
Bloodborne (recent) is much less vague than elden sneed
Instead of being told about the sneed poopenfarten of the lands between you got yharnam lore
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>>490162241
There's plenty about us ingame.
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>>490162140
The next game won't have invasions at all because it's Sekiro 2.
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>>490162241
Time your sleep to match mine
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>>490160017
You mean the three quick slashes followed by a delayed slash? You have to roll past her rather than away to avoid getting rollcaught.
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>>490162289
Bloodborne is old 2. Only 3 modern soulsgames exist
Ds3
Sekiro
Elden ring
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why couldn't marika or someone else just grab the fingerslayer blade and kill the fingers, it's not like they are important aynway
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>>490161712
I think you're pretty dumb, dont think too hard about stuff like this.
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Reminder that Carian women are passionate lovers.
Reminder that Ranni is already showing signs with her ending dialogue change.
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>>490162437
Screenshot an item then in game
>>490163248
No
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>SEEK THREE WISE BEASTS
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>>490160271
Gwyn is the lynchpin of Dark Souls' storytelling. The opening cinematic establishes who Gwyn is and why he's relevant, and then later other characters who knew (or claim to have known) Gwyn provide more in-depth thoughts on his motivations. And then you fight Gwyn to cap it off.

Roughly the same deal in DS2. You first learn about Vendrick from the herald at Majula and why he's relevant to what YOU want, many different characters detail the events surrounding or involving Vendrick and his works, you eventually track down Vendrick and later even get to directly converse with him. The final bosses are Vendrick's ex-wife and his brother, with appropriate causes.

DS3 was set out to be like this with Pontiff Sully based on what we know, but alas. DS3 as we know it lacks a clear central character. For Elden Ring there's obviously Marika, but we never get to confront Marika and all the secondhand information is very cryptic and vague. We never learn anything and no one else in the game seems to understand her either, there's just endless confusion and mystery surrounding her. SoTE gives her a bit more background but doesn't touch on her in the present.
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>>490165120
>For Elden Ring there's obviously Marika, but we never get to confront Marika and all the secondhand information is very cryptic and vague.

I dont think this true at all? The opening cinematic shows what shes all about, the game is covered with her iconography, and the melina dialoug at the churches explains basically everything about her that matters. She's no less difficult to understand than gwyn.
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I beat the game
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Godwyns soul is dead but his body is alive and constantly growing. All the deathroots, that face you see in the catacombs and at the bottom of stormveil, thats godwyns body. The source is the deeproot depths where fia is hanging out.
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>>490165723
Sure but it cost you your dignity.
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>>490165384
Leda loves, and i mean LOVES pegging and rimming men
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>>490166108
that's okay I didn't have much from the start.
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>>490165916
Just got through the game for the first time?
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Why were Godwyn, Godrick, and questionably Rykard the only ones spreading their seed around? You'd think having an army of demigodling children would be useful. I feel like Radahn should have definitely been shagging women left and right. Maybe Miquella as well as part of a fallback scheme.
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>>490165916
Literally everyone knows this.
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>>490166240
I believe godwyns body is a metaphor for jews growing throughout the world like a cancer making everything worse wherever they go.
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>>490166270
>Godrick
>spreading their seed
Source: your ass
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>>490166270
I thought the fire knights in the dlc were renalla and messmer's sons until I read an item description contradicting that
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>>490165562
>The opening cinematic shows what shes all about
What? No it doesn't. It goes "AUUUUGHHHHRISE NOWWWW YE TARNISHED" and spends time talking about a bunch of secondary characters. You're right that Melina explains a lot, except
>These encounters are totally missable, possibly permanently if you reach the giant's kiln
>There's very few of them
>We have no idea what Marika's place in the ending actually entails
>Unless you're a lorebeard, it's completely unclear why Radagon and then Elden Beast is the final boss
Like you don't need to understand much about Dark Souls to understand who Gwyn is and why he's the final boss. Everyone is telling you about him. Nashandra is less foreshadowed but knowing she's the king's wife is unmissable. Soul of Cinder is also a bad final boss tbqh. But elden beast is like, why is this big annoying space dragon fighting me? It doesn't even make sense with the lore anyway unless you do the Ranni or Frenzied Flame ending. It should *want* you to repair the elden rang.
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>>490164601
My sleep schedule is good. You should use mine I recently fixed my insomnia. Weirdly I keep seeing st trina in my dreams but it's whatever
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>>490166156
>Leda fell onto my chest with a look of contented joy such as I had never seen before, and I certainly hadn't expected to see from her. I'm not sure if she even noticed me playing with her hair, she wasn't conscious for very long at all. I thought back to the times I had the good fortune of making love to Nepheli, and how I thought she was the sweetest bedfellow I had ever known. Now I wondered if I would ever enjoy any woman like I enjoyed Leda the Needle Knight. In another world, another life, maybe we could have been bound together unto death, but it would never work here, she was devoted to a master I was unsure of, and there was something dormant in this woman that made me uneasy. I knew Ansbach felt it too, and I had taken to him more quickly than anyone else in our group. His sense of honor and fealty was erected on foundations much more stable than Leda's.

>I knew that we were almost certain to cross blades. I tried to expel the thought and let Leda's sweet breathing lull me into the most blissful slumber of my life.
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>>490165723
I also beat the game.
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>>490166551
The first boss in the game is one of godrick's sons or at least close relatives
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Seamless should be back up, it was an issue of steams end and got fixed in the maintenance
Seamless is trying to see if they can like make a like fallback for if it happens again to keep it running

>>490166609
I get enough sleep when I use cqffeine
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>>490166551
Item descriptions mention the scions as the dregs of the golden lineage. Godrick is the last one of the golden lineage that isn't hiding around underground or in the capital and he's described with the same moniker. They have child faces, are grafted similarly to godrick, and are named his kids in the files.
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>>490166551
The grafted scions are his kids.

>>490166736
Reenacting the night of the black knives on Malenia, I see.
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Really loving the Belurat ambience theme, bros. Straight out of Legacy of Kain...
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>>490166736
The night of white knives
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>>490166750
>>490166887
Do you think he grafted them out of love?
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>>490166940
lol no. listen to their sound files. they sound like they're in constant pain.
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>10 hour female tarnished death screams ASMR
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>>490167042
So? Just because they're in pain doesn't mean he can't still love them
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>>490167089
https://youtu.be/ZUrmhMPN3wQ
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>>490155814
funny thing is you wouldn't even be able to prove you did any of that (besides showing items I guess) because there is literally no effect on the base game world from doing the DLC. It may as well have been a dream.
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>>490165384
I feel like Leda should have been a Carian Knight to bring things full circle with the network test and also make a better allusion to Sabeh.
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>Whats the Shadow Tree?
>It's the Shadow of the Erdtree.
kill yourself
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>>490167372
That's all there is to it desu, doesn't need to be more complete
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>>490166736
why did they molests her
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>>490167346
>Carian Knight to bring things full circle with the network test
What's this mean? I don't know network test lore
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>>490166156
Yet she's weak to it. Funny how the one with the moniker of Needle Knight for her penchant for penetrating others can't deal with being the penetratee.
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>Maliketh's Sword
Would it be fine with 50/50 STR/FTH or should it be something else? I plan on using the incantation version with it.
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>>490166736
Imagine being Godwyn chilling out in the palace during the Golden Era and your dumbfuck atheist cousin sends at least five of these faggots into your quarters spamming Deathblade attacks
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>>490167247
huh?
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Stupid question: why weren't the scadutree fragments exclusive to Messmer? Hell, ditch the fragments entirely and make it like Eleum Loyce where you go around collecting NPCs by completing their questlines and then have a big gank party vs Messmer. You get buildup for the big prominent mandatory boss, you're more invested in the NPCs, fucking up their questlines has actual gameplay relevant consequences, all the other bosses are scaled normally so you don't have to do any mandatory collecting to fight them properly. I mean, shit, some of the NPC quests could involve fighting the optional remembrance bosses. Literally anything but what we actually got.
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>>490102839
heh imagine how humilliating it would be if you were a heavily armored knight in the lands between
and some barefooted woman in pajamas jumping like a monkey folded you like a piece of paper and beat your ass
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>>490168203
yooo this gameplay is FIREEEE
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What the fuck is with that duo crucible knights they have no synergy at all
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>>490168447
you rike?
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>>490167545
Leda was the enchanted knight back in the network test.
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>>490168203
jumping attacks were a mistake
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>>490168447
i for one enjoyed running laps around the boss room
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>>490167949
Elden Ring asmr
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Numen women are made for ____
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>>490168447
When I drink the fuckers throws a spear and the other stabs me
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>>490168447
They nerfed them early on because people cried and shit their pants so much about it, like many other nerfs in the game.
They used to both be aggro as fuck and just run at you and beat you to death
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jars
yes that is the easy answer
no it's not very original of laughter inducing
it's jars
ywnbaw
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What are hornsent women like?
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all old like the granny in bluerat
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>>490168768
Smothering Tarnished with their tits
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>>490166836
You're my friend. I want what's best for you
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For the sake of a fic I'm trying to imagine a layout for the palace in Leyndell that makes sense without being too unfamiliar and it's hurting my brain. Wistfully recalling Anor Londor which actually had normal bedrooms and stuff.
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>DLC playthrough genuinely stopped because I don't want to kill the remaining bosses
>Messmer, beloved step mommy's last son
>Rellana, Messmer's wife who's trying to help him
>Radahn and Miquella, horrible fight that's about as much fun as putting toothpicks under your nails and punching/kicking walls
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I get that the hornsent deserve it, but Messmer seems cringe. There's not a single horned corpse in the furnace golems and they kill their own soldiers all the time
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Mohg is a female. Female omen just have really big bodies like men so everyone assumed she was a woman. She was too busy focusing on growing her blood cult to correct anyone, then she was brainwashed and /ss/'d by miquella
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>>490170006
>>490170006
>>490170006
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>>490169646
>Man, I miss Anor Londo...
All I could think while exploring Leyndell. Needed much more love.
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>>490170157
>>490170157
>>490170157
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>>490170058
You are black.
>>490170208
You are white.
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>>490166853
>>490166887
I clapped.



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