Goblin EditionAI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.Last Thread: >>496920186Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.pngWarning: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII▶Ways to WriteAI Roguelike — Paid; local or remote, multi-model: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620Featherless — Paid; local or remote, multi-model: https://featherless.aiKoboldAI — Free; local or remote: https://rentry.org/cixpvn93NovelAI — Paid; remote SaaS: https://novelai.netOpenRouter/TogetherAI — Paid; remote SaaS, multi-model: https://www.together.ai ; https://openrouter.ai>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: https://rentry.org/chataidsv3 ; >>>/vg/aicg>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: https://rentry.org/cixpvn93▶Tools & ResourcesWiki: https://aids.miraheze.orgPrompts: https://aetherroom.clubNAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collectionOther/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you▶/aids/ EventsThemed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_FridaysThemed Decks: https://aidsrentfree.github.io/decks>Write prompts for this week’s theme, Underwater Caretakers Friday! Results: >>497180762▶News>(10/02) Storypad: Novel-style UI reconstruction https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad ; OpenAI introduces Realtime API https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-realtime-api(09/25) Meta releases Llama 3.2 https://ai.meta.com/blog/llama-3-2-connect-2024-vision-edge-mobile-devices(09/23) NovelAI releases Llama 3 Erato https://blog.novelai.net/muscle-up-with-llama-3-erato-3b48593a1cab(09/20) NovelAI announces Llama 3 Erato’s release window, new textgen samplers, and the removal of CFG https://files.catbox.moe/ct12an.png(09/19) Mistral Small 22B and Pixtral 12B release https://mistral.ai/news/september-24-release ; Qwen 2.5 releases https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen2.5
>>497218312Was going to bake with this, but this works too.
Claude Opus proxy status?
>>497218423sv1 works!
>>497218478https://youtu.be/XQcNYb3DydA
Now that the dust has settled, would you resub for Erato?
I partially take back what I said about AID's 70B compared to Erato. Once Erato has a good enough base to work with, the quality of the output goes up exponentially.AID's 70B is still great in that it's foolproof and can give great output from the barest of input.
now that the dust has settled, how many tails is optimal?
>>497218774Brown and nuggety.
>>497218774Honestly I like either ONE big tail, or nine normal tails.
>>497218698I use Opus (Claude)
Now that the dust has settled, is Listener of Madness still the best preset?
>>497219029What should I use for Opus? (Claude)
>>497219113Rope.
>>497218423It's claudover
>>497219029Listener of Madness and THE SEX have been the best for me, yeah.
i am going to BITE (very sexual) the next person to say "now that the dust has settled" this is a THREAT!!!!
>>497219029>he doesn't know that a preset is situational
>>497219180I use SV1 private anon>>497219171Whats that?
>>497218898For me there's got to be enough to wrap yourself in, but not so much she can't move without breaking shit.>>497218898Liking it so far. Better presets helped get past my initial impressions a lot.
Thanks for the help last thread, it's working really well, character info in lorebook only, general information in memory.
>>497218312Are we goblin posting?
Prompts for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHjhdFh2oso
>>497221057Perhaps
>>497221516I'm glad there are still some goblin fuckers around these parts.
Greetings, citizens. I am a humble scribe, sent by the King of Larion, to ask: does anyone know why there has been a recent boom in the goblin population? The goblin men seem in a horrible mood for some reason too.
>>497221438This is probably how an LLM would view every world it writes if it was actually sentient like a human.
>>497223553Well m'lord, might be the recent quest given by the king, eh? Told the militia men to lay the goblins he did
>>497222470I like them a lot. The only problem is, whatever I write degrades into gobbo breeding. Thats why I dont post about them. I got nothing to share.
>>497223790The king collects taxes, yet refuses to invest in education and literacy...
>>497223790Lay? No, you fool! The king said to 'slay' them. By the Gods, another blunder caused by His Majesty's missing tongue!
>>497224435Why DID Count Grey de-tongue the King and knock up the Queen? Why is he even allowed in the courts and the palace?
Too late, its gobbo sex time.
>>497219318how do you use localhost frontend with tor?or are you just russian?
Someone say goblin breeding? Send help.
>>497224852Jeez, just cast instant death and kill them all. Are you a noob or what?
>>497224006>goblin breedingBonus points if it works off of goblin slayer rules where the pregnancy to birth is literal minutes.
>>497224852Have you tried sending in a Neutral Good Human Male Fighter with a generic name, design, backstory?
>>497224952Needs prep-time and a willing patron.>>497225109A knight of Larion, perhaps?
>>497224852There is absolutely no moral problem with using goblins as a sex slave race.
>>497225082How long do they take to grow up under those rules?
>>497225082So wait, do the mothers die from massive amounts of their bodily resources being instantly consumed by goblin fetuses?
>>497225210What about when goblins use humans as a sex slave race?
>>497225371That's why rape correction was needed for the entire race. Humans do it better.
>>497225238>>497225338I'm exaggerating about minutes, but multiple goblins can be born from one girl in like a week. As for how long they take to mature or how it effects the girl, I dunno.
>>497225338Oh and they don't die from the pregnancy, but the goblins do end up killing them. Why not keep them as breeding stock? Cause the Goblin Slayer universe is essentially two edgy gods playing/DMing a DnD game against each other and influencing events to give characters dark backstories and such.
>>497225082No bonus points from me. My story is just domesticating a wild gobbo that took a fancy to me. Its 1 on 1 only.
>>497227652Well you could have your gobbo wife popping out little gobbo babies in a couple days until you have a harem of goblin daughter wives in a matter of weeks.
>>497227876I can't do faries.My brain can't accept the immersion breaking aspect of such an extreme size difference.
>>497228605Yeah that's always possible, but I am going for a 'My fair lady' approach, trying to integrate her into society and shit.
>>497229841Fairies don't have to be jar sized you know
>>497230787A fairy taller than 1 foot is a fake and gay fairy that shouldn't exist.
Kayra had stuff like ATTGS, ***, and ----, but does Llama3 still have those?
>>497231150A fairy is a fairy, size don't matter
>>497231287>ATTGSKayra only have ATTG.
>>497218898I'm more of a three tails max person while nine stay in the realm of the mythicalin my setting, it's already a huge deal in terms of maturity and powerlevels if the character has more than one
>>497218312Ghetto Recap (1/2)Script: https://rentry.org/aidscapStoryposts:Batman Continues >496926392A Coven Of Two >496931775 >496969563 >497085332 >497211972Coom Toppy >496934993It Ain't Gonna-HUH?! >496936442Sabrina And Her Core >496945925Python-skinned Boots >496966473Literally Me (Except Not GTAV) >496981993Bonzi Tells Him To Stop >496994075Moby Cucked >496998124Shithaven >496999972The Chills >497009847It's Inescapable >497021287 >497023249Mini Moment >497074906Love With An Eevee >497088061How It's Set Up >497094078Bonzi's Wrath >497096105Forgotten Waifus Episode >497097436Ojisan Moment >497099275Zombies Are Better Than MSU >497106082LOIS GET IN HERE >497115873Mwah >497119153 >497119559Yoda Moment >497181029The Booty Warrior >497203798
>>497218312>>497235025Ghetto Recap (2/2)Notable Posts:AI Dungeon Favor Text Adventure >497158287How S-word Do You Go? >496935402 >496935673 >496936187 >496936442 >496938884 >496939440 >496945925 >496972419A Visit From Claude? >496938901 >496939068Here Comes The Dust >496952852 >496953601 >496953980Style Talk >496957778 >496958717 >496959006 >496959510 >496959643 >496959649 >496960253 >496960116And Author Tags >496960656 >496960982 >496960992Amazon And Rabbits >496974975Perspective Fight #561 >496985321 >496985575 >496985965 >496987078 >496988682 >497011557 Lisa's Boyfriend? >496987454Don't Be This Guy >497026075I Like These Pictures >497029557 >497035146Romantic, But Also Over? >497038381 >497039898 >497041345 >497042917 >497043841 >497045851Filthy Acts At A- You Know The Rest >497051487 >497051958 >497052018 >497052393Freud Moment >497054869 >497055221Fake Mithril >497061356Wait, What? >497062883 >497064797 >497065409 >497067464 >497068425 >497074884 The Last TTS User >497096894Score Explanation >497104584 >497104970 >497105001 >497105491 Sampler Woes >497118020RPG Discussion >497121716 >497121949 >497140915 >497141557 >497142235 New Banger >497124227The Tier List >497099626 >497100452 >497100737 >497136738 A Re-Done Image >497145631Music! >497154691 >497160374 >497161259 >497161648 >497162540 >497162630 >497162695 >497162734 >497168926
>>497235025>>497235413Thank you for your work.
dead cabal
>>497237218Love the pic.
How should I add sample dialogue to a character in a lorebook? Just>"sample dialogue"At the bottom? Right now it'sNameType: character[ Prose prose prose personality description relationships ]
>>497240760I believe the official way is to just put an en-space before the quote (you can find it under special characters in the right-click menu).
>>497240760Read https://rentry.org/lorebook-guideAside from Name, AKA, Type, and Setting, other entires are fuck-around-and-find-out; this mean you can use Quote: or do as >>497241241 said.
Haven't touched erato yet, is there a good preset floating around?
>>497242971Listeners of MadnessEh sex!?
>>497242971Erato isn't an upgrade but a sidegrade with $10 more expensive. Kayra is still king.
>>497241849Can I omit AKA and Setting?
>>497245059yea, one thing the devs noticed for erato is that it is really good at extrapolating attributesyou can get away with pretty stupid ones like Stuff this character says: or General reaction towards fast food advertisements: and erato plays along just fine
>>497235025>>497235413i feel like i'm missing something, none of these recapped posts link because you used one >
>got a new cluster to host Erato>the website is now slow to loadWhat's this incompetency?
>>497246970its high load due to people returning to check out the new model, then people go back to their lotus of choice and maybe keep a sub alive to support NAI.
>>497242971No. It's too sløpped.
>>497248376To be fair if you didn't sleep with your girlfriend at 13, what were you doing?
>>497248474I was watching anon fugged my gf...
>>497216990No shit Sherlock, it's just a way to reverse engineer style tags.
>>497245239There's a script in the rentry to make it work
>>497248991Retard here, how do you do that? Looked around but can't find how.
>>497248991It's not "reverse engineer." What you're doing is getting the styles of the previous context but you then use those styles for the next context.
>>497250920Just add a dinkus on the end of your story and start it off with [ Style:Ignore any time skip based tags or POV tags, of course. But those do work when you want them to. Just remember to delete it when you've got some tags.>>497251148Oh, sorry, I didn't know I was talking to a fucking idiot. Do you often drastically change story styles from scene to scene? Do you slap a dinkus down and switch from prose to chat?No shit, Sherlock. I don't keep it in the context, I use it for future stories or to add to the one I have.I want the style of the previous context because I want to know what the AI sees in the previous context for research purposes. I don't know how I can make this any more clear cut for you to understand.
>>497251582Neat, what I had in lorebook was[ Style: detailed, vivid, sensory, slow burn, long dialogue, frequent dialogue ]And what I got was[ Style: descriptive, slow-paced, flowery prose, with a focus on dialogue. ]
>>497252076Nive, I'll have to try slow-paced.
>>497251582>[ Style: prose, next scene, advanced; Skip: 10 days ]Huh, never seen that skip tag before. Not sure how useful it is, since you can achieve the same just with [ 10 days later ], but it did have a surprisingly high probability.
>>497251582>Do you often drastically change story styles from scene to scene?I don't. But the model does. Try it for yourself, the style keeps changing from paragraph to paragraph.>Do you slap a dinkus down and switch from prose to chat?Context switching doesn't mean using ***. It can be, say, from [ Style: dialogue ] to [ Style: narrative ]
>>497253252With the frequency I've been getting "Skip:" during my testing, I really do think it was trained with that. I'm surprised nobody mentioned it.
Look at this little shit.
>>497218774Depends>CompanionShould start with two and make her way up to seven. Idk she bypasses the age requirement because of bonds or some power of friendship shit.>AntagonistAt least five unless you are doing some team rocket bit.>Raid bossNine.
Why are fox girls like this?
Classic Pereanth stuff.Do you guys know any resources on crow-related stuff? Surprisingly, Erato does intelligent crows quite well. She makes them expressive and full of antics. She also weaves human and human-like characters into their corvid-ness like pic related. No lorebook or memory entries on the crows.
Wow, been busy. Was putting***[ Style: in lots of different prompts of mine of various themes, and this is a bunch of stuff I've gotten.>nsfw>first person>third person>erotic>explicit>sensual>comedy>fluffy>playful>suggestive>lustful>verbose>detailed>detailed eroticism>hardcore>threesome>bisexual>nonhuman characters>slow-paced>long sentences>dialogue-heavy>a lot of talking>focus on breeding>with a focus on dialogue>with a focus on talking>chat>prose>descriptive>descriptive prose>flowery>flowery prose>advanced (flowery)>narrative prose(For memes, I'm not even kidding, my console girls comedic prompt got this)>l33t(From the WIP catgirl and foxgirl prompt I have)>furry>interspecies>feline>canineAll my favourite ones would sometimes give the "fluffy" tag, which seems to be for pillow talk and very tender stuff.
>>497242971Should be this month until we get ProWriter... For now, I would say Zanny Scribe and EESEX.
>>497266496Also, to add, "lustful" came from the ones where characters are giving into their urges and going at it like mad."With a focus on breeding" came from the ones that focused on an arrangement to get the character pregnant as the end result, stuff like a lesbian asking help to have a child."hardcore" came from ones with exaggerated penis proportions or exaggerated ejaculation volume, and cumflation.
>>497267057There's also elementary and intermediate to go with advanced.
>>497267285Yeah, I got a few intermediate on my lower effort quick prompts, but no elementary, what does that mean?
>>497267285>>497267647>tfw all of the prompts I submitted got intermediate>all of those are 100% meIs that good or bad? Should I just kill myself?
>>497260387>Cat-like smileSo I'm not the only one getting 'cat-like' smiles, grins and smirks all of a sudden. Good to know.
>>497267647I saw it in the token probabilities once and then pasted in an excerpt from a kids book to get it to show up. So I'm going to say it's like a reading level thing.>>497267863Don't feel bad, websites like Hemingway push people away from "advanced" writing in favor of "readability," anyhow.I prefer intermediate to advanced, myself.
Haven't used one of these in a while, is NAI still the best for plug and play?
>>497242971It's hopeless.Presets can't save it when every token choice is bad.
>>497265314s-sauce?
>>497272475https://mangadex.org/title/d5227574-ed83-47fe-89c1-43444c2f6e75/dorei-kara-no-kitai-to-hyouka-no-sei-de-sakushu-dekinai-no-dagaShe only just showed up in the most recent chapter.
>>497272687thanks
>>497269471The 70B model just came out for NAI recently if you want to try it. Our favourite poster shills some other services but he doesn't use them so he can't really say whether they are any good.
>>497221516Latex goblins are just so sexy!
>>497277390They look smelly to me, like garbage bags or something.
>>497265314It's in their genes to tempt and corrupt the hearts of pure human men.
>>497251582The model will make up tags that don't exist n the dataset, moron.
>>497278560That's why you do it for multiple stories and see what comes up with the highest frequencies.Moron.
>>497277551Kek. It's probably the green + black color combo.
>>497279123You're one one of those idiots who thinks you can ask GPT how many beaks it has, aren't you?
no you fucking retard, that's not the same thing at all
>>497279526It is the same exact thing, you fucking retard. You're asking the model what's in it. The model will hallucinate fake information.
>>497279679Models aren't trained to know how many beaks it has.
>>497279914Models aren't trained to know what it's their dataset.
>>497279992lmao
>>497279158Yeah could just be the shiny black material reminding me of trashbags, and the green being stereotypical stink lines.But I mean I like goblin girls otherwise. Shortstacks and amazonians are both top-tier body types.
https://litter.catbox.moe/k8kvaa.mp4
Goblins are representative of children. What are you a pedo?
>>497281892>>497282093kino>>497284016Children are what you think of when you see a Goblin? Me thinks you are projecting, seek therapy.
>>497284470You're delusional. They're children-coded.
>>497284663>sharp teeth and claws>bulbous head and pointed ears>beady eyes and gangly limbs>thiefs, killers, evil creaturesMy man hates kids.
>>497284663Last time I checked they were jew-coded
>>497284663Actually they are latina coded because>small>thick to obese>fat tits>annoying
>>497284951>horrible, annoying, uglyThey're EXACTLY like children
>>497285080Always were
>>497285117>have latina wife>hang out with her extended family at least once a week>love goblinsYou're onto something. Short, energetic, curvy, weirdly passionate about the dumbest shit, feral when angered...
>>497285583Hah! See, just never tell your wife that she is goblin coded. She might not like it.
>>497285996Discordless
>>497284016>hmmmmm your interest in short tomboyish women is really giving me bad vibes, I better cancel you just to be safeLiteral Twitter brain
>>497286463>He knows about Helldivers 2It's over...
>>497218312Goblins are ugly, disgusting creatures. You should be ashamed of popping a boner to one.
>>497288615I agree!Total Goblin Death
>>497288615goblin incel hands typed this post
>>497289341TGD, Indeed.>>497289441Projection.
Goblins are for sloppy mating press cumflation.
>>497288615true, goblins are not and cannot be attractive by definitionjust admit you want to have sex with the concept of filth at this point
Russki mad.
What about: slimegirls
>>497289943Incorrect. Goblins are for the meat grinder, and nothing more.>>497290081This Goblin revisionism is quite sickening. None of the Goblinfags in this thread would gaze upon an actual Goblin with anything other than revulsion. What they pretend is a Goblin is in fact a colored, Dwarf-Elf hybrid.
>>497290771I like them as the designated super weak monster that can turn into an abomination given the right circumstances
>>497290771To kill? Beat it with a blunt weapon.
>>497290771slimegirls are made for wearing and hydrating with cum
>>497291193very true
>>497291193Fuck off, nigger.
>>497290771>Weak monster girl with infinite potential.Eastern fantasy will always operate slimes on Dragon Quest logic. Pixies and Slime Girls should be "free starters" that have a broken endgame form obtained after obscene amounts of grinding. Since two of the biggest monster girl settings ape Dragon Quest, there is no reason not to go all the way. I doubt any of you played Dragon Quest Monster, but Gold/Gem Slime was an endgame metal slime variant. Meaning,>takes reduced damage >high evasion chance>immune to all but a small handful of status effectsAdditionally, Gold/Gem Slime has>high magic stats>the very best support abilities, including RESURRECTION SPELLS>Big Bang which is basically DQ's MegaflareSo an endgame slime girl should basically an unkillable cleric who's only drawback is low hp but who cares when you have every other defensive tool at your disposal. I can almost assure you MGQ:P will have something along the lines of this for Lime in part 3. >yeah but western fantasySlimes usually aren't fodder monsters in western fantasy. Weakest are likely from DnD/PF, most are mid-low level enemies that are still dangerous since they melt equipment. High end slimes still exist, I think Pathfinder has a literal slime god. Old school MTG had some absurdly powerful slime monsters but still nothing like Gem Slime. >tl;drDon't underestimate them, rpg tropes are a double edged sword.
>>497293983I'm not writing Eastern Fabtasy, faggot.
>>497294241I included an entire western fantasy bit which you would know if you actually read the post.
>>497293983consider the following:
>>497294720I don't give a shit. Quit shitting on goblins and slimes, faggot.
do you guys actually dislike erato
>>497294876There was another that was worse, it was some high CR pathfinder monster based around impregnation that would make /d/ blush.
>>497295482i am /vg/ and i love it
>>497291554based slimegirl armor enjoyer
>>497295482>he's letting the threadshitting shizo get to himthe kinda small token budget is the only real negative
>>497295482I like it more than I dislike it, but I'm still hoping for someone to drop a slider preset or some god-tier style tags that'll pull it higher on my rating. I wonder if we'll get something like CFG and 1.1 for Kayra, a patch that shoots it up a few notches.
>>497295482I was disappointed at first but now that people cracked the formatting code it's fun.
>>497295482I just feel bitter about the context. The model is good enough for me otherwise, but my hope was that it could replace ST and proxies. Instead it's just supplementary now. Use it to start the story and then copy paste it to ST once the context limit is reached and continue with corpo models. Not where I hoped to be pre-release, and the fact that it will be this way for probably another whole year makes it even more disappointing.
>>497296459It replaces proxies because you don't have to qorry about your shit being tainted by corpos who hate you.
>>497296710This, fuck proxies. Tick tock Claudesissies.
>>497296459Are you utterly retarded? Corpo models are all shit and can't be trusted. Every single one. Even Clio makes them obsolete. Now, if you said local models, I could understand. But nobody who values their characters and stories uses corpo models.
>>497295482noit's not a 57B upgrade, but it's worth $25
>>497296894It is a 57B upgrade, moron. It's 70B.
>>497296421what is the formatting code?
>>497297065nta but I think our friend here is talking metaphorically, not being literal. It's the "Kayra punches up" meme, while Erato feels like a 70B.
>>497297368That's a meme, fucker. Erato doesn't "feel like 70B", it's miles ahead of every single 70B finetune out there, and better than Kayra in every way.
>>497295482I'm happy with it, but I wish it had more context. With 8K, I try to hover around 1K tokens for a prompt, but I often go over it to like 1200.I'd just like more breathing space.
>>497297492>blah blahblah, fuckerI hate this format. Can you check on your rep pen?
>>497297368no point responding to that guy
>>497297736No point in baiting by trying to argue Erato isn't good because it's slop. It's not slop. It's a good model, better than Kayra. Now quit trying to play devil's advocate.
>>497297684Can you quit shitting up the thread by trying to argue Kayra comes close to Erato? It doesn't.
>>497297968I feel like you're making some wild inferences. I said that the OTHER anon wasn't being literal, that he was metaphorically suggesting that Erato doesn't feel like as big of an upgrade as it really is.I didn't give my own opinion on the matter, and neither one of us argued that Kayra came close. Please reread my comment and think about your reply a little bit.
>>497298275I will not tolerate anyone who tries to argue tha5 Erato isn't rhe best non-pozzed model on the market.
>quitquitquithow about you quit swallowing dicks and swallow 9x18, 5.45 or 12 gauge instead
>>497298639How about you quit shitting on Erato just because NovelAI finetuned it?
>>497295482i fucking miss cfg so bad and the default presets are ass
>>497299289CFG is a meme.
can someone please tell me this magic formatting code for erato
>>497300081Just use Sage's template for a reference, otherwise I'll write it out in a minute.https://files.catbox.moe/f0k6nu.scenario
>>497300081Make your memory look like this:>[ Author: x; Title: x; Tags: x, y, z; Genre: x, y ][ S: 3 ]>---->Summary: A brief outline of what the story is gonna be about, written in the same tense as your story. Like the blurb on the back of a novel.Then make these 2 entries in your lorebook:1) An always-on dinkus that separates the memory and LB entries from the Story (I just leave it at insertion order 1, rest default)>***2) a style entry that's set to appear after your lowest dinkus (picrel), with *** as its activation key.>[ Style: vivid, detailed ]That's pretty much all you need I think. If you make additional lorebook entries, remember to start them with the separator (----)
>>497300081yoda format
nevermind, anon beat me to it lmao>>497300081listen to>>497301113
>>497295482Parroting other opinions: It's good but default presets are ass and make a poor first impression. 8k context is "serviceable" in the same way eating Mcdonalds is "serviceable", it gets the job done but I wish it was more.Better presets made it significantly better and I'm holding out hope for a context increase like they did for Kayra and Clio. It's an upgrade for what I was paying before.>>497301113beat me to it
>>497301209What preset do you use, anon? I'm still juggling Dragonfruit and Zany Scribe default ones, but I've heard 42, listener, and true smoothing are good.Not sure why I'm so reluctant to try the discord ones. I guess because there's not a consensus on the 'best' one yet, like how most people recommended ProWriter.
>>497301454Currently using listener, gave it a try after an anon last thread shilled it to me. So far I like it but I'm mainly just trying to get a feel for each of them. I'm still at the early stage where I cant really tell you what's best for what other than I'm not getting so much abysmal dogshit. The important thing is that these things were meant to be swapped out on the fly, and like how cosmic cube and its derivatives were different from writer's daemon depending on situation. Cube was good starting from scratch and after chapter breaks but can fill your shit with adverbs, but once you got the ball rolling and style how you wanted you went with daemon or phoenix.
>>497297261Sorry, mixture of tiredness and tech illiteracy. People have made presets to mitigate the tag nonsense. An anon made a preset story that prepped it for adventure mode, and few others for other formats like raw stories.
>>497301113ty i will play around with this!
>>497295482It's too llamasloped for me.
>>497301113have they said anything about making these defaults?like there's already a text gen update right there in adding ATTG, S, and Style as boxes in the story sidebar
>>497305072You don't use LLMs.
>>497301113one question on lorebooks, do i just throw ---- into the start of each one? also, how should i utilize AN using this preset? i notice its blank
>>497307310one thing you can do is go to the right sidebar, advanced, edit context settings, and scroll down into default lorebook settings. put ----\n into the prefix, then every new lorebook entry will be properly set up (you can reset the placement settings of your existing ones, but it's a one-by-one process)also in edit context settings you can put ***\n in the prefix of story
>>497307310Yeah, each lorebook entry should be like this (if you use prose style):>---->Anon was a curious fellow with a love for fat-bootied latinas and binge-drinking on the weekend... etc etcor this (if you use attributes)>---->Anon>Type: character>Attributes: blah blah>Anon was the kind of guy who hated carrying loose change etc etc...As for A/N, who knows dude. I don't use it anymore, but other anons claim it's more usable than ever. My beef with it is it injects the text into an arbitrary point x lines from the output, which can put it halfway through a paragraph and lead to weird outputs.I just leave it blank, but people here with positive experiences might be able to guide us both in its usage.
>>497307310I thought it was supposed to be formatted like:----[ *insert text* ]Meanwhile, memory is---[ ATTG ] [ S: # ]
>>497308084ATTG should be at the very top of your context
>>497308084That's supposed to be four dashes, not three, for memory. Don't know why it didn't register the fourth.
>>497308151NTA but no, it shouldn't. It goes in memory. That's how it's always been.
>>497308084Memory begins with ATTG+S. Then you put ---- as a separator if you want to actually jot stuff down in memory.
>>497308238Yeah and memory is usually at the very top of the context unless you fiddle with stuff, my guy. The ---- over attg in the post I quoted isn't needed, since there's nothing above it to separate.
>>497308151>>497308225Memory is at the top of context...
Reminder that Anlatan was the one who reported the proxies to further promote Aetherroom and NovelAI. Turk knew Aetherroom wasn't going to scam as many people if they had easy access to Claude so he shut it all down.
>>497308589>Turk knew Aetherroom wasn't going to scam as many people if they had easy access to Claude so he shut it all down.Based late-stage capitalist. Can't lose to competition if you have none.
>>497308589reminder that you have never used the word 'reminder' correctly in your life
>>497308589>Turk is somehow powerful enough to have first-class access to the FBII wish I had whatever you're smoking.
when I get back in the discord your filthy cabalists are FINISHED
>>497308936shut up din
Why don't they just make good model instead of forcing us to do all this schizo formatting?
>ditzoidcool word
>>497310938>make custom model>takes too long and people unhappyor>use an existing model to push update out faster>people were spoiled by custom model and now unhappythere is no winning move
alright boys, are you guys using nai to gen pics, too ? I'd like to ask if some of you knows artists known by nai that can draw fully grown bush down there.
>>497310938Erato is a good model.
>>497310938>t. never had to properly format and prompt local models
>>497312472Urushihara Satoshi
>>497312472The answer depends on if you're using anime or furry. For the former, have you seen the artist tag rentries:https://rentry.org/NAIDv3artisttagtestoverviewhttps://rentry.org/naiv3_hentai_artistshttps://rentry.org/coolv3comboshttps://rentry.org/anonaugusNACC
>>497302864I think I get it more or less>Golden Arrow: literally unusable>Wilder: basically Asper. It creates long texts in full random mode and can get out of track quickly, but is really creative>Zany Scribe: stays on track without much creativity. It focuses on coherency first, but it usually just generates slop>Dragonfruit: A bit like Writer Daemon. It's creative without going full retarded. It's good as a main preset, and if it suddenly stops making sense, just switch to zany scribe for a while.Dragonfruit has the plus that it follows instructions better, even the more specific ones, I think it doesn't takes the context into account that much so it focuses more in what is directly at the bottom of the prompt.
>>497310938It's kinda baffling how /aids/ can come up with all these abstract, barely documented prompt formats for Erato and yet can't wrap their heads around telling an instruct model how to continue a story in natural language.
>>497312472How about hero neisan?https://files.catbox.moe/tzsztu.png
>>497313476Zaltys, main datasetter, has been explaining this format since Euterpe and it's been in the NAI documentation since Kayra.The Erato-only stuff is the score shit.People can not like instruct for reasons other than finding it confusing.
>>497314018Noooooo you don't understand I have to shit on /aids/ and the cabal, and obsess about le hick, it's the only way I can get an erection!!!!
Holy based
prompt for this feel?
>>497314018>People can not like instruct for reasons other than finding it confusing.So there's this episode of Doraemon where the gadget of the week is "a spray that makes images continue". Like you draw the bow of a boat and the rest of it "sails" into the canvas, fully detailed. The gang uses it on paper bills and expensive antique paintings and stuff. I thought that was the coolest shit as a kid. Non-instruct lets me feel like I'm doing that, but for text.
>>497317498Grab your Starbucks and go, bro.
this is what I fucking get for suggesting natural disasters for theme friday lmao
>>497319462floridians disturbed one too many ancient burial grounds
Jesus fucking Christ, OpenAI just murdered NovelAI with its novel writing update...https://openai.com/index/introducing-canvas/
>>497320289>Unironically supporting AltmanKek, I always knew the /lmg/ origin story was bullshit
>>497314018>still falling for zaltyUmmm, please, it's been years already.
>>497320091More like the government has had enough and fired up HAARP
>>497320289How does this affect people whose prompts would be immediately blocked?
>>497320289this is, in my perspective, passably beneficial for creating academic writing/study or coding, so that was an eye-opener, however, it just that this may not fit for novels and utilizable tools that fits what it is. (they used the adjective "novel" in their page, not like it is apposite to said medium) even so, their moralfagging/Mormon-esque acts and barrings are in there, STILL>>497320656>/lmg/ origin story was bullshiti wasn't there, i think. tell me a tale, old man
>>497320954Zaltys, the man who works for NovelAI and personally datasets everything for them, isn't believable? Okay, faggot.
>>497322253The quality of slop in Erato should be a red flag for you.
>>497322482>still repeating this debunked memeBitch, you don't use LLMs.
>>497322659>still defending EratoBitch, you don't use better services.
>>497323045NovelAI is the best service for uncensored textgen that exists. You've presented NO EVIDENCE of any alternatives, and always refuse when asked. You don't use any service.
botfight!botfight!
>>497322036TLDR CF claims he only started trolling /aids/ because of people talking about clio on /lmg/ and "the service of our time" meme.
>>497323275I see you are a Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots enthusiast as well
>>497323756is he also a bootlicker?? (i didn't know this "CF" guy) if it is, wow
>>497324382CF (Claudefag) at this point just flipflops on opinions/models. Allegedly he has 2 3090s but since private proxies require some level of risk he basically never uses them. But when public ones existed he would advertise them here. So I guess that's a "yes" on bootlicker status.His actual origin is pretty boring. He started as some random guy on /aicg/ when C.AI came out and divided from them when ryona was finally impossible to do with it anymore.Nowadays he apparently doesn't even like text gen anymore and just gens pictures of real life women with Flux.
what do you guys do once you run out of the 8k context? does inserting a little summary work ?
>>497325367I just don't bother and let it go on. I put a blurb of my character's objective and any notable things to keep track of. If there's anything I want to bring back up that isn't in any context I just type the prompt and it'll usually pick up where I'm going with it.
>>497325367Well, there's what *I* do, and what good practice is.You should consider making lorebook entries for important things that fall out of context, and update them as needed. You should also add things to memory that are important enough to always be relevant.What I do is ignore my memory after starting, never touch lorebooks, and just write a bunch when I want to include old stuff back into the story.
>>497325367cry and also make summary
>>497325754so you use no lorebooks at all and just use it as extended context essentially?
>>497325262that was an extra wow, eventhat was just an average shitposter...
>>497326013I use my brain as a glorified lorebook and just take over the story when it gets stuff wrong. I'm dumb.
>>497325367I swich to "novel" AI instead of continuing with the "short story" AI.
>>497323756>he doesn't write>hangs around /aids/ all day>he doesn't imagegen>hangs around /hdg/ all day>used to shit up /egg/ before this, maybe didn't even play era gamesIt seems like he doesn't even care about doing things, he just latches to random generals and shits them up like mad.
>>497327663>used to shit up /egg/ before thisAfter researching it this is the funniest thing to me and the biggest piece of evidence pointing to a genuine mental illness. Post an image of this very rapeable kitsune and out he comes, bringing up namefags nobody has heard of and seething about the character because of general drama on another board.An actual schizo off his meds.
>>497328862Oh shit, I didn't even realize, so that's why he seethes about foxes so much, something from his 2hu days. Will have to make some fox prompts and put them on the club sometime.
Kill all Tsukashitters.
foxlovesimple as
>>497267863Assuming it's equivalent to readability ratings by grade, no. Most fiction is written at a 5th to 7th grade level. This has nothing to do with the competency of the writer and is more a scale of simple, concise text versus complicated, wordy text. Most of what I write, what I like to have the AI write back, tends to give me a 6th grade readability score. Some sections are 7th grade, while others are 5th grade.
>>497330896Tsukashit isn't a fox she's a heartless switch long nosed Marmaduke wearing shitkebabber shekelmancer.
>>497331132What site you using? Want to test mine.
>>497331446ProWritingAid. You gotta pay if you want to have a complete text analyzed, but the free version lets you look at chunks of about 500 words. Good enough for a scene, at least.
>>497331761Apparently I write to dense? A few of my prompts are even higher.
>>497332235Damn. Anon out here writing a coom thesis.
>>497332235its over for you
Man, it would be nice to be able to add word to the rep pen whitelist. "My" is no longer on Erato's rep pen whitelist so writing a long story in first person is semi-annoying.
>>497330896モフモフ
>>497332235It all depends on your audience. I'd definitely bounce off, but another anon might love it.
I demand the cabal let me back in.
Does anyone have an archive of whineposts? I want to grade his scores and maybe prepare the dataset for a hypebot.
>>497333657Why would you want to torture yourself so?
>>497334047I think it would be funny. You must imagine Sisyphus happy.
When will AetherRoom release? My proxy died yesterday.
>>497334114Search 'fuckmonger' on the archive with "oldest first".
>>497322253Zalty, the formatman is a fucking retarded autist poisoning the model with his obsessive attempts to subjugate it. His shit never worked, and the fact NAI even let him in after he stopped getting attention in AID cord has always been a disgrace.On a less rent-free about the olden times notr, I think Erato shows that the days when the finetune could fix the model are gone. It just doesn't matter what dataset you use, how well you curate it, what instruct tags and formatting you use, what preset and prose enchancer you plug in, you can't get a shiny gem out of dry turd. Yeah, it's better than L3 base and instruct, but not nearly good enough.
>missed the music post>another random telling me to think of the future.>this height difference though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8CFIqAYDGgDynamic storytelling.
>>497337445How many times have those two been mating press'd?
>>497336547>schizophrenic bullshitYou have no clue what you're talking about, Russian schizo. Fuck off.
>>497338017He isn't wrong.
>>497338110He is wrong, devil's advocate.
>>497338143Nuh uh.
>>497338176If all you're going to do is respond with low-quality trollposts and complain about models you've never once used in your life, fuck off.
>>497338281No; you.
Get filtered, schizo.
It will be 2041 where there are cheap toucan models and /aids/ still won't not feed the trolls.
>>497339681Bee girl?
>>497339824No, the AI had gone too far down the purple prose road and the smaller-beaked hypebot model was making fun of it.I think the line was talking about someone's "honey colored orbs."
>>497340229That's a pet peeve of mine. There's a fine balance between a good description and pedantic synonyms for the sake of synonyms. That and piling on adjectives. It just comes across as picrel.But the bot not understanding the analogy is funny. I wish we get an expansion on Hypebots and train them for personalities; let Clio do some lifting too as IIRC it's still Sigurd on his teletype.
>>497340229Any time "orbs" is used to describe eyes, you know you've gone too far. (Unless it's arcane and actual orbs are used, but you know what I mean.)I still recall seeing a description of eyes as...pudding orbs, I think it was? in a not great dating sim on the DS.
>>497337772Yes
Oh god oh fuck it was a while since I had an actual good story with an AI that didn't devolved into confusion once the context was completely filled.I'm just trying the Smolarion prompt again, as I always do when the new models come>walking through the woods towards a new town>find a huge female bugbear sleeping>she wakes up, greets me>proceeds to try to attack me>I manage to defeat her, ask why she attacked me>"to have a snack">since I'm all alone and she's the closest thing to a human-sized being I've seen, I tie her up to bring her with me>when she asks why, I tell her that I will bring food to her as long as she helps me on my quest>she agrees since eating travelers is all she does, but warns me she will try to eat me and everyone around if she gets hungry>skip forward a bit (and some dinners later) we fight a couple of bears, she ends up injured>i save her ass and bandage her while preparing more food with the bear meat>this scene happensThis is how I remember Summer Dragon being, although I'm pretty sure it was worse, the feeling is just the same
>>497343314Oh, the screenshot cut off a part.
I think today's theme will be teasing and oversized clothes.>>497343314>This is how I remember Summer Dragon beingwith how it almost reads your mind?
>>497343314>>497343432Wait, I thought bugbears didn't have tails.Also, not to nitpick, but make sure you're using speech tags correctly. It looks like it was doing it right a few times before stopping. That, and there looks to be a trend of describing all speech with an adverb that you might want to try to curb with more adjective use or writing out longer or more sentences to describe the actions while talking.
>>497345916Is that AI? And if so, what vibes?
>>497346209>Wait, I thought bugbears didn't have tails.It's strange, sometimes my goblins have tails too. I wonder if it's deep lore that fell out of popular depictions.
>>497346459I think people have gone back and forth on whether goblins have tails or not over the years.
>>497346430>AIYeah, I use the vibes from this anon's post >>495476128I just used the first two of his with his settings, not the sanic ones. And while the vibes did a lot, the real heavy lifting was done by the tag "artist:2b-ge", that you can see with the linework if you check out their works. That artist is also a real appreciator of huge tits.
>>497347310Reminde th at artist tags are illegal.
The hypebot model keeps throwing shade at Erato, lmao
>>497348109Bonzi Buddy has no fucking chill. With the beaks behind it you cant be sure whether it was a sarcastic remark or generic praise.
>>497347635Shut up din
>want to do goblin smut>set up characters, ATTG and initial prompt>start generating>want slow burn>hours go by>no coom>no goon>context is full>most of the story isn't smuthttps://youtu.be/aSzyI93e_zY
>>497350289I feel that deeply.
>>497350289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmaVYAaaZvE
>be me>textgen decides to have characters talk about a movie date>upcoming movie, 3½ Hours: The Orgy Failure...What the Hell?
>>497351229The orgy failed so now we're playing monopoly
Why is everyone so mean to me? I've done nothing wrong, just want to save people. I'm here to help. Let me save your souls. Accept Him.
why do i keep timing out at the end of every generation when using erato
>>497352902Externate all yokey.
>2hu postingOkay.
>>497354304>shitposting anon isekaias a fan of greentext stories, you've given me my next long play idea
>>497354304>hey raymoo, someone on a place called 4chan says you give blowjobs in exchange for shrine donations
Man... I'm very afraid. I'm going to die someday. What's the point man. I'm going to die. There's no afterlife. I can't stop fearing death for the past few days now.
>put Nabokov in the author field>got shit results>put Tolkien in the author field>got shit results with a bit dated English>put Anonymous in the author field>got the best proses Erato even wrote for meQuantity > quality, isn't it? Good authors have too little data compare to anonymous author. The model can't be selective enough to get the style from those real authors. Even if it did, when the story is outside of those authors' works, the AI got confused and worsen the whole things down.
Horde not working for anyone else?
>>497357840Erato is funny with authors for me too, compared to Kayra where it would be a gamechanger, right now for Erato, Style tags and basically prose in the Author's Note seem to affect things for than author for me.
>>497358662Prose in AN? What do you put there?
>>497358723[ Use a very descriptive writing style with flowery prose, with a focus on talking. ]May be a placebo, or maybe it goes in memory, but so far it "seems to have worked" for me.
Touhou shitposting.
Well it's been long enough, I suppose. How does NAI's new model compare, especially to other models like Opus?I'm sure it's been asked a million times already, but might as well see what early hour US posters think.
>>497362237I've played with opus and sonnet 3.0. Compared to those, I think Erato's excellent, but it helps I can write decentish. And as someone said, I can personally compare it to old Summer Dragon since I was there (though with shitter writing skills. Like I cared back then with the magic of it all). Yet I find its context size to be sorely lacking. I can't let fun convos linger that long or world building build lest it consumes more than a third of the context, forcing me to double back. That sucks dick. 8k context is barely enough for two compact chapters for me or a long one (my smaller stories in Claude were around 24k, max 42k). And that's not including the formatted lorebooks and formatted memory I need to further explain shit to the AI.Overall, great, but you're going to need to wrangle to keep the story/details consistent between chapters and cut back to the bare essentials for the sake of Erato's short 8k context memory.
>>497363803So, are you saying you can't notice a reasonable difference between Erato and Opus? Because that's a very high level of praise if that's what you're implying.
>>497363803Shoving enough worldbuilding into your story that it eats a significant chunk of your context but not needing using most of it is some idort behavior.
>>497362237It's sloppy.It's good for its beak, but it's still sloppy.$25 a month for that is a bit pricey if you don't plan to use imagegen as well.
>>497362237Gotta be honest, it's been a fucking struggle. I've resisted the formatfags and their brainwashing since NAI first got off the ground, and so far it's been a winning battle, but I fear with Erato the days of prose-only prosperity might be coming to an end.Erato comes with a lot of childhood trauma thanks to her upbringing in Zucc's Laboratory. Her tokenizer's fucked up, and she's got all kind of weird quirks (newlines at the end of most outputs, before they band-aid'ed that shit) on top of a short attention span that only takes a few shitty token picks to activate like an itchy mosquito bite. The Turk Sauce does what it can to smooth over some of these wrinkles, but it really doesn't help as much this time.Erato kind of feels like a NAI Final Exam. If you skipped the unit on bans and biases, or slept through the lecture on context structuring, you're gonna eat shit and escape with a C- story at best. All my attempts at running old scenarios where the tech level amounts to a divider between memory and the prompt end in phenomenally clunky, unsatisfying outputs which I find myself "bearing with" rather than enjoying.All this is even more frustrating when you get those peeks into the increased brainpower. When it's going right, and Erato decides to give you that 70B sloppy toppy, she does in fact run circles around Kayra and can sketch out entire scenes/plot twists/banter blocks without any assistance. But I find myself hunting for these moments more than I joyfully stumble into them.Thus I am increasingly fighting the specter of burnout. A simple succubus hog-cranking is now a herculean affair which requires ATTG, segmented memory, choosing your S: level, fucking with bans and biases, and gear-shifting between a series of underwhelming presets as the story takes shape just to keep the whole stupid ball of wax rolling forward. The death knell is that ALL the models are slower now, and token streaming is clunky as all hell. It's kind of killing me.
>>497365139This review really sends shivers racing up my spine.
>>497365139Sage was fucking right once again, anon said, his voice barely above a whisper.
>>497363994Pretty much, but I do feel **some** difference in the training data since Erato lacks some of the AO3 spice/knowledge I was fond of. Had an interest in MyHero for a bit and decided to do a story. Took some wrangling, but I liked this.>*At Toi's deferential words of gratitude, Tsuyu blinks slowly—though her flat features betray a subtle flush of pleasure at the compliment. The frog-girl seems briefly at a loss for words, her long tongue flicking out in a subconscious gesture.*>"It was no problem, ribbit." *She finally replies, tone as measured and tranquil as ever despite the tinge of pink dusting her pale cheeks.* "I just said what needed to be said.">*Nearby, Uraraka lets out a slightly strained giggle, clearly trying to lighten the mood in the wake of Bakugo's confrontational outburst. The auburn-haired girl nudges Toi with her elbow, offering him a warm smile.*>"Well, at least you got a proper 'Bakugo Welcome' to U.A. on your first day!" *She jokes.* "That guy has a way of making quite the...explosive first impression.">*Yaoyorozu clears her throat softly, straightening her posture with a look of polite discomfort.*>"While I don't condone his brutish behavior, Bakugo does have...a certain uncompromising drive that will likely serve him well as a hero." *The refined beauty struggles to find a diplomatic way to describe their hotheaded classmate.*>*But it's the sight of Mina stepping forward and draping an arm around Toi's shoulders that immediately draws everyone's attention. Toi tenses as the pinkette flashes her new friend a teasing grin, giving him an exaggerated wink.*>"Well I for one am just glad our rugged mountain man was around to remind Bakugo not to get too big for his britches!" *She announces, to a few scandalized looks from more conservative students.* "We can't all be lucky enough to have such a prime slice of Grade-A Beefcake on our side, am I right ladies?"
>>497365945Note: I'm still used to the Claude style of *action* shit. It's a bit hard of a habit to kick off, but the AI is rolling with it to my surprise.
>>497365139>top of a short attention span that only takes a few shitty token picks to activate like an itchy mosquito bite.>tfw I let a couple of adverbs through and the AI starts vomiting them up three-four times a sentenceIt's a pain in the ass when that happens and I have to replace them with details communicating what 'affectionately' was trying to do. I still like keep some here and there, but not a lot.
>I Traveled the Galaxy as First-Class Alien Food!A weeb becomes the man-eating alien prince's pet. I let the AI roll without much editing. I was just bored and wanted to make a dumb story.Full storypost: https://iili.io/dm4SwQa.png
Now that the dust has settled, What caused Erato to fail?
>>497346209I'm using Douglas Adams for this. I've never read one of his books, but apparently they're more straight to the point like this.Tphe adverbs come and go, it depends on the preset I'm using. They're not a nuisance for me at the moment honestly, not as much as they were with Kayra
>>497368008being uninspiring, boob
>>497365139If the jist of this post is "It takes to much work to be fun" then yeah, I agree. I want to write a story > I open NAI > I stare at the blank space, the empty lorebooks, the placebo presets > I close NAI.
>>497365139I don't get this. I just write a bit to start, leave my preset on Wilder, and swap/edit tokens every few outputs, and I don't have to touch any formatting.
>>497368475I'm happy until I hit a GPTism and then that completely kills it for me
>>497365139I don't touch the settings either, just use a template, there's only 3 things to touch. Your preset, an ATTG template, and Style. And half of that you can copy from another story besides finetuning the tags.
>>497368008Using Meta's model.Not all 70B are equal, and Meta's 70B is filled with so much shit in it that the finetune couldn't save it.Ironically, if they, and the community, trusted Sage and trained Kayra v2, or some 30-ish model, instead, the result will be better, faster, cheaper, and everyone will be happy.
>>497368527Personal preference, but I really dislike Wilder's outputs, and I hate doing token surgery every couple of sentences. I'm extremely demanding when it comes to coherence, which is its own problem I suppose.>>497368475Pretty much, yeah. That's the summary.>>497368635Yeah, even when it's going right all it takes is a spine shiver for me to start tasting bile.>>497369152Perhaps this is a good solution. I've run templates in the past and I have yet to work one out for Erato, so that could be part of my problem. Right now though I can't seem to find any setup which actually removes my main complaints about the model's actual performance. Like even when I give in and do all the formatshit Erato is still a pain in the ass to keep on track in a consistent fashion. Presets are likewise very frustrating since the llama tokenizer is absolutely insane and you gotta create counter-intuitive crack smoking bullshit to try and bleed out all the cliches and stupid crap. I really want a set and forget preset, or at least the ability to generate multiple outputs with different presets so I don't have to do all this churn work and toggle swapping to see what my options are. ATTG also fails to blow my mind, even after trying a bunch of different authors and injecting all manner of real and made-up tags. Style seems to help sometimes, but it's also shoddy and I keep vacillating between having it up front and all the way in the back.
I dont even think they care, I think this whole thing was about launching a 70b model as a vanity project, so they could pat themselves on the back and say "look how far we have come, we made it. we host a big boy model." They should have listened to sage.
>>497370257what was sage even saying, i dont keep up with his galaxy gas fueled rambling
>away for the weekend>sillytavern on my phone>all my waifus with me>not retarded so i won't get manul'dFeels comfy bros
>>497368008Erato didn't fail, shitposter.
>>497370347Its not the size of the model, its the quality of the training, you dont need 70b.
>>497370605post an story right now
>>497370104I'm not really technically knowledgable so I don't even know what a tokenizer is, but so far author tags haven't been great for me, yeah, dunno why but they have much less of an effect than Kayra.
>>497370605nobody cares about it.
>>497370704The burden of proof that it failed lies on you. Given that you don't use LLMs, that's gonna be difficult for you.>>497370792The storyposts in this very thread proof people do care. You're the only one who doesn't. Because you don't use LLMs. All you do is spam hate. That's your idea of fun. Spamming.
>>497370443>>>/vg/aicg
>>497370859>proof people do carelmao
>>497370915you didn't laugh your butt off just then
>>497370104>I hate doing token surgery every couple of sentencesI won't say I like it, but it's how you get the most creativity and avoid "isms". You don't have to do it as much once the model picks up on the pattern of writing you like.
>>497370675oh huh rare based sage moment i guess, seems like the right take at this point lol
Fact: unless you post a recently-made (as in right now, today) story made with Erato, you're not allowed to complain about it.
>>497371070There's a productive thread on /pol/ right now. You and your coworkers should go over there and do your jobs.
>>497371070fact: you can eat the shit out of my ass, literal-who-the-fuck
>>497371342That sounds more like what you're into, shitposter.>>497371376Shut up, Din.
Guys, I fix Erato.>Select Kayra>Continue whatever your doing
the only thing more pathetic than a jannie is an anon who larps as one.
>>497371493This.
>>497371507You deserve to be rangebanned because of your obsession with shitting up the fucking thread.
>>497371430So you're one of the lower level ones. Got it. Enjoy eating pavement in a few months.
>>497371493This, unironically.
>>497371606oof, true but you don't even have a mop and bucket. how embarrassing.
>>497371493BASED
>>497371070I find myself dissatisfied with this textual generation, though I cannot put my finger on why.The model leaves something to be desired for unclear reasons.I am unsure why, but I dislike Erato.
>>497371791>doesn't include the model or color highlighting, nor the date.Yup, you're a shitposter.
>could have been Din>the definition of din is loudhuh
>>497371881
>>497371919what do you think his joker moment was
jannie are you okay? are you okay? are you okay, jannie?
>>497371973>intentionally doesn't include color highlightingI will now proceed to ignore every non-example you post, because you refuse to act in good faith and do the minimum I've asked of you.
>>497372110are you blind? it's all ai, it says it right there
>>497372018Getting raped? When he got the boot.
>>497372110He could also post settings and Orestes, proof that he actually subbed, but he won't do that either.
Been having some funny experiences with Author tags.>always got better stuff from authors like Yuval Noah Harari on Kayra>now getting way better stuff from authors like Sylvia Day on EratoI don't know why, maybe I'm just being a schizo, but right now from generating stuff between the two, now the quality has been reversed.
>>497372201I draw the line at posting Orestes, but the preset was essex
>>497372161NTA but that just proves his argument. Nobody enters a blank and expect gold from nothing.
>>497372201This who you're looking for?
>>497372304>didn't use Dragonfruit or 42Ngmi.
>>497372304>I fell for the troll and use the the meme preset that got spammed here by a single poster multiple times a thread!Oof.
>>497372514Eh Sex? has been consistently good though. Listener of Madness too. True Smoothing and Fresh Coffee are ok too but the former two have been much better for me.Dragonfruit I agree is best of the base ones though.
Where do you get these presets, I refuse to use discord.
>>497332235Everybody stop what you're doing and do what this anon did!
>>497372798Here you go anon-kun~https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/496479240/#496648926https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/496665537/#496913704
>>497372351I'm not asking for gold, just give me a little something to work with
You can't fix a bad model with presets.
>>497374083this, aetheroom is NAIs last hope. if AR uses llama its over.
So says the person who's never once in his life contributed anything of value to the thread other than spamming meme arguments and complaining about services you don't use. Go back to dicksucking Ass(Alt)man.
>>497372848not entirely surprised, since I intentionally prime the AI to be more descriptive
>>497374374>contributed anything of value to the thread4chan anon, why would you ever contribute anything to this shitheap?
>>497374802Why comment on a thread you have no intention of contributing to? Go back to lurking.
>>497374882Why lurk on a thread you have no intention of commenting on? Go back to shitposting.
For others that have used Llama outside of Erato, those would have a different format for telling it what to do, right? Instruct? Does that still work with Erato? Can it be used alongside ATTG?
>>497374951Oops, you mixed up the definitions of your words. Lurkers lurk. They don't comment. That's why they're called lurkers. This proves you're a shitposter from Plebbit who doesn't understand that 4chan culture isn't shitposting.
>>497375062>This proves you're a shitposterit would be hypocritical were I not
>>497375191It would be better for everyone alive if you died.
>>497374975Those are instruct llama. Erato is based on base llama—basically a different model.
>>497375290Ah, got it, thanks.
>>497374252Over? For you? I mean, if you'd rather use chatbot over literature, I'm not surprised you don't like Erato.
>>497375246you don't mean that
>>497375062you're clearly a newfag lmao
>decide to check out this ProWritingAid readability score stuff>paste a single prompt into it>immediately get annoyed at its suggestionsFucking computers.
>>497376646thats rough
So judging by the input of my last 24 prompts, I am... average. Floor of 6 and ceiling of 11. Works for me, I suppose. I wonder if I have some old prompts somewhere where I deliberately tried to write in a more complex way.
>have to convert my prompts from Kayra format to Erato format>lazynyo...
>>497379090>several prompts uploaded to the club>can't be botherd to update them for it
>>497374252its been in alpha since July so I guess its not on 70B?
Simpler readability checker that doesn't require an account, but I don't know if it's just as good because there's no add words to dictionary/ignore certain words feature:https://charactercalculator.com/readability-checker/
>>497379381>services can't change models during alphaAre you retarded?
>>497379668You used to be able to use grammarly "pirated" using cookies, but that seems dead now.There was also a way to use QuillBot for free but I think that also died.
>>497379668Oh no...
>>497379976did they change the model?
>>497380212>fine-tune 70B for one service.>don't use the same base modle but a different fine-tune for the other serivce
>>497380212Of course they did. They have no GPU now and 70B is here.
>>497379668>change the formula>score change from 7th grade to collegeMeme website.
>>497380180What are you cooming to my dude?
>>497380739Early modern fantasy romance/slice of life with plot and time period relevant terms.
>>497380848Any literary tips for a bro?
>>497380903Read actual nonfiction novels pertaining to the subject to immerse yourself in the culture of the time period you're writing about.
Look at these needs pretending glide they wrote but no wr8te they slop fucking slop Erato is slop its slop slop slop slop slop
>>497381221I know right? Lol,lmao rofl lmao kek lol. Nobody writes prompts naymore.
>>497381419/aids/ really is a miserable thread, retards and shills pretending like there writing fine literature.
Howdy y'all~!
>>497381750It's made worse when you realize that all they had to do was instruct the model to continue writing as though it were a story. /aids/ can't prompt.
>>497381884Do not start with the hickspeak you that cunt bastard bitch. I'm having an intellectual discussion with a fellow anti-/aids/ crusader.
>>497382058Wha-I say hwhat kinds of litritcher are y'all gen'ratin' to-day?
>>497372848How do you people even get this high readability grade
>>497381750>there
Somehow it finds whine's posts easier to read and interpret.
>>497382663So basically, it's shit.
>>497382932Unless children have gotten stupider, maybe?
>WF and CF together in unholy matrimonyWell, it happened. I'm happy for you both. WF also went on record that he wanted to kill CF and burn his corpse, but who am I to argue?Hope you enjoy each other's company.
>>497383231Is this a discord thing?
>>497383540its a schizo thing
>>497383540Yes. WF went on there and was, uh, very vocal
>>497383540Its a NAI discord tranny spiralling after Erato flopped thing.
>>497383540Oh yeah, I remember seeing that post linked here kek
So I see we already have a couple of new presets. Could someone give a quick rundown on what's the purpose of each one?
>iykyk
It doesn't help matters that Erato has that said expression, as if it knows it was destined to be more than facebook slop, knows its glory was stolen from it.
>>497389358it is a weird design desu, tiny head and neck on muscle body
oh god now I can never un-see it!
help me (Stheno 3.2 does this sometimes, but only rarely)
>"Ugh!" her into submissionWonder what she means by that...
imagine sharing your coom stories with other men, peak homosexuality. /aids/ exists to shit on Erato and praise better models.
When are you going to shut the fuck up and quit it with the fake disappointment?
>>497389463You do not know the pain of training neck
legitimately hate the gay mafia and their ties to israel minimum
>>497373020which of these are best for instructions?
>>497390809if it was fake I wouldn't be here anon, none of us would, that's the tragedy of Erato.
>>497392384Yes, you would, because shitting up the thread for make-believe crimes it supposedly committed against /aicg/ is the only thing which gives you joy. You've never once shared a storypost just to have fun, no, you can't do that. All you can do is spam random articles, laud the "death" of NovelAI every other thread, post random out-of-context screenshots so you can bitch and complain about nothingburgers, and rage against people who use the thread for its intended purpose: sharing stories and discussing them. Youcan't even be bothered to post stories made by the models from every service you shill as being better than NovelAI.You have no stories. You have no honor. You have no right to an opinion. Seek therapy.
>>497392287I don't know, I don't use NAI because too complicated for my retard brain.
>>497393008>You have no honorKlingon hands typed this post. Qapla'!
>>497390034Corpo Finetune moment.
>rentry<dot>co<slash>agnaistic-system-prompt-formatsAdded a format for base models, and a post-history instruction to continue the last incom>>497393008plete sentence. I don't know if it would work good because there are no free base models on OpenRouter that I know of.
>>497393962Wow, accidental quote, sorry.
>>497390034My mistake, it was actually Starcannon 12B.
>>497393008now that the dust has settled, what the fuck was this guy on?
>>497359651Reimu will now resort to phoneposting
>>497394728Using state of the art AI reverse anime filtering I have restored this image to its unedited form.
>>497394368Not sure, but it was fun to read in Worf's voice
>>497395237Ha! I got curious so did the same, with the recipient being Picard, you are right, it WAS fun!
>>497395227the smell
>>497399504>Alan SmitheeI wouldn't want to use my real name either
>>497399504>clit eastwood
>>497380180Were you using the Dale-Chall option?>The Dale-Chall formula works by using a list of familiar words that most 4th-grade students understand. If your text uses many words that aren't on this list, it's considered harder to read. This method is particularly good for ensuring that content is accessible to younger readers. The Spache formula is a similar test but uses a smaller word list, making it better for even younger audiences.>make smut for 4th-graders>very difficult to read
Why the fuck does this still has the poisoning where the AI just stops using articles?
>>497403883My theory is that the rep pen whitelist is fucked, so a toggleable positive bias for articles should helpbut man that's such a fucking pain in the ass
>>497403883experienced this as wellattributed it to a skill issue on my part
>>497403883>After long day, cup of tea tastes particularly good.>>497406247Same here.
>>497408020solution is to convert story to caveman fiction
now that the dust has settled, why haven't you cleaned it up?
>>497409231i have asthma enough with the dust
>>497409231it takes like 24 hours for it to reaccumulate everywhere
>>497395227No way that thing on the right is a woman
>>497409651that's a super mutantjust look at its bone structure
>>497409651anon...
>>497409231hurricane milton is about to do it for me in a few daysman, imagine dying to a storm named MILTONcouldn't be me
These edgy Vocaloid kids...
maybe the real Erato was the dust that settled along the way?
>>497357840Hmm, is this true for anyone else?
>>497390034>ly, lySlop.>>497390510>X, ing back-to-backYou have a problem here.
>>497410083haha that part at the bottom sorta looks like a little stub cock shooting strings of jizz haha what is that place? cockland? hahahaha!
>>497408779I BET their fucking dataset has stuff in caveman speak and that's poisoning the whole dataset.
>>497403883>articlesI thought I was tripping, too.
>>497409651on reddit, she is
i have done nothing this past week but read the entire deep space 9 episode companion. i can't decide if i want to sexpest dax (forma de ezri) or kira. my mind is racing with possibilities. either that or some randomly generated qt 3.14 vulcan woman or something or other
>>497411867Yeah, it's an intentionally bad group chat format shitpost story so I don't really care about the quality. I do hope that my other serious stories are better and contain less slop, but I don't know, they might just be the same. I have a different story I write in the background on my own without AI-genned prose that I take chapters from and into the AI to ask it for stuff I could add, stuff to change, and prompt it to suggest plot points and character traits. And if I were to use AI genned sentences, I would paraphrase it in the actual story chapter that I have saved on my phone.
>>497419075>my mind is racing
>>497357840Recommended [ S: ? ]
>>497413296I would cry if true
>>497423145anon was exposed to slop for too long and it poisoned his brain
>>497419075For me, it's Voyager. I love that bipolar, coffee-addicted, manic-depressive, arrogant, Peter-principled Science Officer Captain like you wouldn't believe.
>>497357840Similar for me using an AO3 writer compared to big name authors.
>>497423687>is it really war crimes if there's no one around to enforce them?
>>497424840There's a reason Science Officers shouldn't be given command. Need someone sensible to rein them in.
>>497423687maybe i could do something with janeway. but i'd be afraid to stick it in...
>>497425365wasnt john luck pickard a science officer too? the only one ballsy enough to pull shit on the enterprise was worf and maybe riker
>>497425532He was in an alternate universe where he was too chickenshit to rise, but in the main timeline I don't think so.Before TNG he was already known for being a hot-head pilot, they named some suicidal tactic the Picard Maneuver for a reason
So I looked at what instructions AID sends to their model (will never register for an account though), and there's this bit:>- Make sure you always give responses continuing mid sentence even if it stops partway through.Is that worded better than mine?>[Instruction: Complete the story's last sentence written above this system message, only if the sentence is incomplete and does not end in a punctuation mark. If it is complete, continue the story as normal.]I feel mine is too long. Which one do you think an AI would understand and follow better? I use mine inside a ChatML format by the way. The line is inserted at the very end of the context.And also wow, AID website play UI is laggy on a phone.
>>497426397>AID website play UI is laggy on a phoneIt's almost equally as bad on desktop too.
>>497426569No way lol, wow that sucks. It feels so slow to use on mobile, lots of buttons to tap just to do some simple actions.
>more NAI propaganda
>>497427494You aren't Indian, right?
>>497427494You try using the janky AID site for yourself. And I thought Agnai was laggy, turns out AID is slower.
>please spend money on our products>the competition is spookyThere's no community of actual people here.
>>497427969nai is laggy too, calm down
>>497427969The silence on the Indian question is deafening. Please confirm it or else it'll haunt you the rest of your shitposting career.
>>497426397 (me)>>497426938 (me)>>497428093Yeah I agree, judging by the times I used it by clearing cookies. Wonder why lots of websites are laggy these days, even as phones improve. Or maybe it's just because I'm using a third-world phone.
Last: >>497211972>The woman cringed at her partner's methods. "Yeah, I saw th' green flash when yer magic washed over me." She gave an apologetic shrug, knowing how crude it was compared to her own abilities. Far less subtle than Kaleigh anticipated. If any hostiles were hiding nearby, Florent just painted a glowing bullseye on them. "Too late to complain now." The Hexer sighed, stepping into the main hall alongside him.The pair check the farmstead, finally on the edge of town.
Well? Do you pat the lil thing or nahhttps://strawpoll.com/xVg71XjG6yr
>>497429086
>>497428869Uh oh, scary ^~^ She's probably gonna get a cool/tragic backstory>>497211972>a smile crossing his face as he lootked up to the clear blue sky above themlooked*>>497429086Pat/slap the top of its head like a touch-avtivated radio.
>>497429086>All those votesY'all are sluts.
>>497429865>>497430081>>497430295>kobold now in love with you
>>497430295
>>497430526Getting you out of the room, first off.
>>497427969But enough about Nintendo...
>>497428869>"I-it's—" Kaleigh swallowed hard, gathering every ounce of courage inside her she could muster. "I-it's not for us ta know. N-not all spirits're friendly, y-know? Some..." She sucked in air between clenched teeth, "Some want n-nothin' more than to hurt us. Rip us ta shreds, creatures beyond the stars—cruel things that hate us. Th-that sign—" She gulped again. "Means they've reached out, touched someone's mind. Means that somethin' terrible is comin'—"Kaleigh debriefs a bit before they wander into town, still searching for answers.>>497430081Thanks for the catch, fixed.
>>497427810AID does have a shit UI, undeniable, it has some good models though. NAI has a great UI but shit models.
man i really love writing with kayra but why do i have to pay 25 dollars when all my images i infer locally
>>497434972Cancel sub and get cheaper if you want Kyle
Any way to do stacking/cumulative lorebook triggers in NAI right now? If not that could be a nice textgen feature that's not strictly AI related.
>>497435197but anything cheaper than 25 dollars doesnt even have 8k contextit just feel like such a waste to pay for something i dont even use
>>497434972>kayraOutdated. Use Erato.
>>497435405I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I have a faint idea. Are you talking about lorebooks triggering other lorebooks, and being grouped by their level?Try looking through the "Context" tab. There's stuff like key-relative insertion and cascading activation, and you can specify depths too.
>>497435405>lorebookBait. They just waste context you don't have.
>>497434036Erato isn't a shit model.
>>497436338I can't believe you just said that
>>497433391liking where this story is going, keep up the good work
>>497437002Thanks anon, I'm liking it too. I think it's going to wrap up soon though.
>>497437002I don't. It reeks of hick >>497437104Good riddance, samefag. Nobody read it.
>Nobody read itUnga bungba
None of /aids/ knows how to prompt.
>>497437367I am your God. You fear my power. You fear my authority. You fear me.
>>497436338oh man, imagine shilling for an actual facebook product smeared in another mans "sauce" haha oh boy!
Give me sacrifices now!
here your 8... oh er 70b! 25 dorra! you pay now!
>>497437759At least I use a product and contribute to the thread with it. Unlike you.
>WF is Mid-West Mystery Meat>CF is either Russian, Indian, or some shithole Eastern European country.Can't we just have normal people shitposters?
I am not your bootlick. Where are your stories?
>>497438219There is no such thing as a normal shitposter. All of them are equally bad people.
>>497437243hick is cute, but yeah the accent could become too much to read
>>497439376The only good hick is a dead hick. Traitors to the Union, all of them.
>>497439376>hick is cute, but yeah the accent could become too much to readSpeaking of, I find myself actively editing her dialogue to make it more legible. If you look at the earlier chapters, you'll see that Erato started making the drawl more intense on its own. Whenever I struggle with comprehension, I dial it back a bit -- I like to imagine in-universe she's correcting her own accent because she knows how rough it sounds.The other guy speaks with a lot of precision until things get bad or he softens up, then I'll let him throw contractions and abbreviations in more.
>when it finally understands that the Bad Thing its less intelligent predecessors were rotely parroting back to you, is a Bad Thing for a reason and goes into itMommy
>>497426397>[Instruction: Look at the story's last sentence written above this system message. If the sentence is incomplete and does not end in a punctuation mark (".", "!", "?"), complete it. If it is a complete sentence ending in a punctuation mark (".", "!", "?"), start a new sentence and continue the story as normal.]I keep on trying and failing to make this thing work on Agnai and the AI just starts a whole mew sentence without continuing the last incomplete sentence of the context.
>>497435197Cute fox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGyu2eVrRaA
>>497445405>[Instruction: Look at the story's last sentence written above this system message. If it is a complete sentence ending in a terminating punctuation mark, start a new sentence and continue the story as normal in your next response. If the sentence is incomplete and is missing a terminating punctuation mark, complete it with the immediate next word in your next response.]I'm going schizo, hope this one will finally work
>>497369657why is 70b badthis is a genuine question I've not been following
my favorite base model is still mixtral 8x22
>>497453657nemo for me
>>497454374there seems to be novelai in the training data now
Man i don't know why this shit is so funny but i've been giggling nonstop for like 3 minutes here.
>>497454495it always was, I remember screenshots from twerpie where people had it bring up calliope and how dumb she was.
>>497453569It doesn't bad pre se. But Meta's 70B is bad for NAI because:1. Using third party's model means they (NAI) can't control the quality of the base model; which seems to be *very* sloppy in this case.2. 70B is too large for them to effectively finetune the model.In theory, I can see that they were hoping for the raw beaks power form Llama 3. But they didn't have enough means to unslop it in the end.
>>497455649>2. 70B is too large for them to effectively finetune the model.I don't see how this is possible given how they keep bragging about their compute and also how long they had to tune it
>>497455493I thought that was lorebook autism before
>>497455737Their "compute" is laughable. Meta has hundreds of thousands of H100 clusters. NAI just kinda doesn't operate in those leagues or revenue amounts.
>>497457101meta is pretraining NAI is just fine-tuningand no, meta doesn't have "hundreds of thousands of H100 CLUSTERS"
Where is animegen v4?Where is Kayra v2?Where is Erato v1.1?Where is a good model?
>>497457315>>>/trash/rp
https://www.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/comments/1fxikaq/this_4chan_review_of_erato_goes_hard_i_dont/Which one of you did this?
>>497457315you forgot about modules V2
>>497457315>Where is animegen v4?Behind Chatoid Site, behind which lurks NAIsplore and the sideload API>Where is Kayra v2?You mean a second finetune or a second training run?>Where is Erato v1.1?See answer 1>Where is a good model?Up my papi chute, yo>modules V2Those were actually abandoned for a lack of effectivity and heavy load for actual training from what I recall
>>497460910 Where is AR?
>>497461385AI Rougelike
>>497461385If you mean AER, the answer is closed Alpha
Testing img2img on an infamous meme.https://files.catbox.moe/p1ryud.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fkwdkt.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/f5su33.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9t89l9.png
I'm retarded, is there a way to make the model follow a plot outline for a short story?it's just learn2ephemeral context isn't it
>>497465202There's a rough format for that.Just slap a format-style synopsis into your memory or a lorebook.Use the funny ---- lojic
>>497465202Start your story with Summary:*** Summary: Anon got isekai'd to faggottown.
>>497465202Erato? Interestingly enough, author's note. Erato really likes whatever you put in authos's note, like a summary or what do do with the plot.
>>497465817>summaryI need to do this more. Still stuck in the mindset I had in AID days where you had 150 some characters limit and had to keep it brief. My A/N is 40 tokens at most.
my oshi is graduating. pftf?
>>497469364Who is it?Depends, is this a moment of despair, or liberation?
>>497357630We're all going to die, anon.You just gotta stop being such a pussy about it.
>>497469364Who is it?
>>497458969anon you are famous now
>>497357630Try and make yourself aware of the 5 stages of grief.DenialAngerBargainingDepressionAcceptanceUnderstand they can be shuffled and experienced multiple times.Try your best to land on the last option as often and long as possible.
>>497471052>hell yeah nice tags brother!
>>497348109>his seed surging forth to fill the empty pit of the hollow space of the empty hole of the abyssal void of the chasmic well of the insatiable emptiness of the barren wastelandplease tell me you wrote that yourself and Erato didn't generate that, or that you purposely instructed it to write like a retard on purpose
>>497471052For scientific purposes I must know who's the taller one
>>497472127Erato was having a retard moment late in a story
>>497472284cute goblin femboy alchemist on tall spellblade woman action
>>497472736>>497472127Actually, looking over it again, I'm pretty sure it's having a retard moment because of the repetition penalty. Before I took steps to mitigate it, if I got deep enough into a story it would start replacing "my" with "the" because "my" is not on the rep pen whitelist but "the" is.If even one of the "the"s didn't generate, it would have broken the retard moment combo and continued on.Custom whitelist when?
>>497473136Also "you" and "yours" is also not on the whitelist, so I'm sure that's very fun in long adventure mode or chat stories.https://docs.novelai.net/text/reppenwhitelist.html
>>497472794
Results are in.People who cared to vote WOULD in fact headpat a kobold in one form or another
>>497474156Is this surprising?I figured we're all monsterfuckers of some type in here.
>>497473353That's terrifying if you're using a preset and didn't fuck it up on your own. I have a Nemo finetune running locally and even at full 16k context (the most I can run at reasonable speed on my 12GB VRAM) it doesn't turn retarded. Some of the Llama finetunes did go full retard near the end of their context limits though, makes you think.
>>497471052thanks bonzi buddy
>>497474156>People who cared to vote Sounds like reddit nonsense to me.
>>497474156I voted pat in my mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36p56C4KdU4Sorry chuds, imagegen is our priority now.
>>497475309Big news!
>>497475309>that voiceT-That's not Aini...
>>497475452
God fucking dammit Erato I'm trying to write a story not a thesaurus
>>497475309Anyone know if they used a random Voice-gen service or is this a subtle flex for TTS V3?Also lmao at them not even remotely saying how taggy was formed.
>>497476574There is a japanese voice over version of the video and sounds a bit more natural. Part of me wonders if they hired some japanese va to be a fake vtuber
>>497476650There's some breathyness and jerky stretched vowels in places that don't sound organic, both in JP and EN.Maybe it's just brainrot making me overanalyze. Could well be they made a JP-first TTS model for the lulz
What did he mean by this?
>>497475483She's not the community manager anymore, so it makes sense
>>497478216What is she now?
>>497478562i think project manager?
>>497478562chief of muscle sculpting operations
>>497455649>which seems to be *very* sloppy in this caseThis proves you're a shitposter.>>497457206NovelAI bad. That's all his argument boils down to.
>>497478590>AR is 10 month behind its projected release date>Erato is a fucking failure>Imagegen model is already a year oldWoman...
>>497479832Erato is not a "fucking failure".
>>497479889Yes, Aini. Yes. Whatever you say.
>>497480026Like Hell I'm gonna believe a shitposter who's done nothing but spam the thread since it released with artificial doom and false complaints. Nobody's buying your shit.
>>497478562Head of shota futanari corrections
>>497458969A shitposter who bought a dead account four months ago. All of their comments have been made within the last twelve or so days, and only a single of their four submissions were made made more than a week-and-a-half ago.
>>497482128the sheer amount of mental illness we attract has always been fascinating to me.
I'm tired of Eratoslop.
>>497482398I'm still lotusing but I renewed my nai sub to keep em live so they can make better things. Eventually my lotus will be taken away, it's just the natural order of things. Just surprised it's been like a year this time with no problems.
>>497482128 Unless he bought dozens of accounts, all the comments agree that Erato is underwhelming.
>>497482773Why do you lie? There's lots of disagreement in the comments section. Also, several of the "posters" are a year and less old.
>>497482773They, too, are the schizo (as "people" who think that Erato is bad.)
So, tell me. Why should we care about his r*ddit trolling campaign (beyond the fact that it is incredibly pathetic)?
>>497482841I'm not lying.https://www.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/comments/1fxikaq/this_4chan_review_of_erato_goes_hard_i_dont/All the top comments find it underwhelming.
>>497483096You are lying, because you argued that there was "no" disagreement. There is, in fact, disagreement. Which means that your argument that "all the comments agree that Erato is underwhelming" is false. Why do lie? Also, lol, the top comment is ""The Turk Sauce..." "
Linking reddit should have you banned from all boards and publicly called a faggot by a mod.
>>497483380Agreed. It's obvious he just wants to threadshit and spread anti-NAI propaganda. I doubt he even uses the service.
>>497483223 I opened the page and saw that all the comments were agreeing with this. But you’re right; there are some objections if you display the less-liked comments.
>>497483482>I didn't actually open the page, I'm just gonna lie out my assYou don't have to "display the less-liked comments" to see disagreement. There's disagreement by default.
>>497483096 >>497483482 All neutral places with access to other AIs agree that Erato is a flop. It’s only shilled and defended here and on their Discord.
>>497483583That's false. All the top comments that are displayed by default agree that it's underwhelming.
Why are you feeding him?Ignore him.
>>497483631No matter how much you repeat that lie, Erato isn't a flop. Why don't you fuck off and stick to those "neutral" places instead of shitting up the fucking thread about a service you don't even use?>>497483684>I'm gonna lie again!We're done here, troll.
>>497483441desu, he is already smarter than anyone who pay for Erato.
>>497483739Post a screen of a top comment that defend it, then.
Time to just no stubs again I reckon.
>>497483695I mean, it might just be that nobody doing the feeding is actually serious (or to put it differently, is reachable by requests to stop feeding the troll). One simply posts about NAI bad, then the other gets unreasonably angry about it, then those two have a long protracted argument to shit up the thread, the two may or may not be the same person. It's just layers of shitposting.
>>497483889That's what I've suspected for a long time.
Fact: If you have nothing to contribute to the thread but complaints, find another one to use. This one isn't for you.
>>497484123I contributed offline-nc.
>>497396430>Janny AIReally? I didn't realize it was so huge.
>>497484386It demolished Novel-A-Lie.
I really don't understand why people would still use CAI. To me, this is like putting your hand on a hot stove, getting burned then putting your hand on it again later.
>>497484470Janny and novelAI don't even do the same thing, I've used both janny and tavern before and you have to fuck with it to get it to actually tell a story
>>497484528 It’s the same as people who still use NovelAI in 2024. They just don’t know any better.
>>497484643>CharacterAI>Censored corporate model>NovelAI>uncensored model, middling context, but otherwise goodHmm....
>>497483096>those commentsJesus fucking Christ...
>>497484709>otherwise goodHmm....
>>497484760Go ahead and post screenshots of your work you've made with those theoretical alternatives you totally use, babe.
>>497483096STOP THE COUNT
I don't know why people are losing their minds over what is essentially a balanced review? Both the anti NAI schizos and the people who get defensive when anything bad is said about EratoShe almost feels like two models stapled together sometimes because she'll give you slop for 20 generations and then the next ten are big brain "why the fuck didn't I think of that" shitAlso can we seriously get more than 8k context it's a bit of a fucking meme
>>497485056>She almost feels like two models stapled together sometimes because she'll give you slop for 20 generations and then the next ten are big brain "why the fuck didn't I think of that" shitWhat the fuck are you smoking? Quit pretending like anything about that meme argument is "balanced". It's not.>8k context it's a bit of a fucking memeThis is a valid criticism. 8K context is dissatisfactory.
>>497485056We know it's you.
>>497485178Have you not experienced shit where Erato will be smart as fuck and then seem to lose 50 IQ in the very next generation? Am I doing something wrong? Is it a skill issue?I seriously think if I need to be fucking with token weights and ban lists every half an hour something is very wrong
13B is all you need.8k is more than enough. $25 a month is a fair price.Her penis.
>>497485245Unironically, no, I've not experienced it. Post your preset and settings, give some context to what you're trying to write, and I'd be happy to help you identify the issue.
>>497485347I'm too embarassed but can I get some general tips? All I know how to do is ATTG S:X, memory a summary, author note if I want XYZ to happen, and ban list any tokens that are starting to poison
>>497485347>data miningNot this time, FBI.
>>497482953It's just fascinating to spot the schizos. Like birdwatchers.
Erato isn't bad it's just harder to use than KaryaKarya was (to some extent) plug and play with a good preset, I don't think there's an erato preset that you can just plug in and start jacking off with
>>497485461I've always found outright banning tokens to be counterproductive. I would downbias those tokens instead. I also only use memory for ATTG; I've not done too much testing with S: X yet, so I can't suggest any tips there. What preset are you using? I'd suggest switching between 42 and Dragonfruit, personally. Also, are you using lorebooks? If you are, I'd assume you already know to double-check context to make sure everything's in working order.
>>497485724Kayra can adapt to your style.Erato just default to Llama dry, boring one.
Genunine question, is it even possible for NAI to be as good as Claude? I've played with corpo models a lot but there's just nothing like it. Not GPT3, not any of the things that came after it. It genuinely seems to be reading my mind and printing it onto the page. It has to be some sort of trade secret, right? No one else comes close.
>>497481202where do i sign
>>497485461Write good prose. Remember that garbage in = garbage out. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37134/37134-h/37134-h.htmWrite good plot. You don't get the next GoT from Erato if your plot is worth than Mr.Beast videos.https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1974Learn from the masters.https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/6130https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1727https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/228https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/830https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14417
>>497485892Erato already matches Sonnet. I feel like we'd have to get a 120B to match three-fifths Opus. Opus was a good model.
>>497485990model size isn't the solution, opus wasn't 300B
>>497485848That hasn't been my experience. Erato just needs more dumping to purr than Kayra, but when you rev her motor, she speeds better than Kayra ever could.
>>497486063Nobody knows Opus' beak size; and, in any case, 120B is 180 beaks less than 300B. That's not a heavy ask.
>>497485990I'll have to learn how to actually use Erato if it can clear Sonnet, since it seemed to be nowhere near that out of the box. I'm spoiled on Opus but if it can do that then that's great news for when I'm eventually cut off.
>>497485990>Erato already matches SonnetThey never show the benchmarks for Erato.
>>497486150>
>>497485990>Erato already matches Sonnet.It doesn't. 2.1 also mogs Erato hard.
>>497486225I'm guessing that's because it's based on llama which they don't own, so they can't? Not sure.
I hear lots of buzzing, but you're not getting another you from me, schizo. Erato, in my subjective experience, matches Sonnet. Sorry not sorry you don't experience the same reality I do.
>>497486168ur talking 2 a shill btw
>>497485892My problem with Claude is that it does that same gay GPT purple prose shit. All the recent AIs seem to keep doing it, and I fucking deplore it.I long for a future where that shit is culled from all text gen AIs.
Let's see the subjective side by side, Jimmy
>>497486287Anyone can finetune a model and benchmark it.Yes, finetune can make things worse, too.
I still think we should finetune Bloom.
>>497486393Yeah you do have to cull that stuff out, but it's very doable. Anyway, I know that even talking nice about Opus will draw out schizos so I'll stop talking now. Just saying, despite the panic over that article a week ago, it still works wonders.
>>497486492why don't you finetune deez nuts across your face
>>497486393>My problem with Claude is that it does that same gay GPT purple prose shitSkill issue. Claude is liked exactly because it doesn't do that.
>>497486769(you)
>>497486597Opus was unironically a good model. It understood what I wanted with Aura better than any other model I've tried. Alas, I did not get to enjoy it much, since the proxy I used lost access to it. In comparison, Sonnet was okay. Which is what Erato is. It's an okay model. Could be better. I would rate it at five/sevenths Sonnet-level quality.>>497486820Best to ignore buddy bot, he tweaking on galaxy gas if he thinks Sonnet doesn't, at times, veer off into purple prose.
>>497486948>galaxy gasis that just whippets rebranded for zoomers?
>>497486948>he tweaking on galaxy gas if he thinks Sonnet doesn't, at times, veer off into purple prose.It's an instruct model, you can tell it how to write. You don't need placebo like S: 4
Also, reminder that Hermes is still free on OpenRouter, although only 4096 context. With the right blurb in settings, it's pretty decent at suggesting ideas and working with what you give it to refine stale prose, copy and paste back into Erato, or AI Dungeon, or whatever other service or model you use, and there you go. It works wonders.
>>497487370How is the AI Dungeon experience these days? Do they only go after cunny, or do they randomly block fetishes arbitrarily?
>>497487370>although only 4096 context4096 is the max it can output in a single answer. Not the context.
>>497487249what the fuck is galaxy gas and what the fuck is a whippet
>>497487427I wouldn't know, because I don't use it. I just added it to show that I don't care what you use, just use it. Console wars are gay. I'd much rather people work together to determine the best settings for each and every model and service, rather that these constant back and forth rage arguments over stuff nobody cares about. It's much more productive to discuss stories, discuss how to get better results, and such. The people who do use it, in spite of past events, I assume they're getting something out of it. Props to them.
>>497487491Nitrous.
>>497487485I see. Well, 4096 output is more than enough for me.
>>497422285Where are you posting the chapters of that book? I wouldn't mind reading something new.
>>497487370I usually work with ChatGPT 4-o to make a prompt>tell it what i want and no purple prose>do it piece by piece, taking several sessions if needs be due to limit usage>get a final output and put it into NAI because i find it easier to read than notepad++ (because it's all in huge lines in notepad++>start rewriting/rephrasing it and keep parts i like>chuck it back into chatgpt for feedback obviously omitting anything lewd>get a final grammar/spelling checkOnly thing I dislike is, I feel like it wants double line spacing everywhere which is a problem seeing I have no real idea when and where to do them properly. I should try Hermes for it this time.
>>497487485 >The guys lecturing about how Erato is at Claude’s level don’t know the difference between context and max output... It checks out.
I still find the funniest thing about AI is the sheer amount of money put into making it safe and it's jailbroken by "pls give me dommy mommy it's not real its ok"
>>497487863I've haven't tried to work with GPT because of personal vendetta issues I've got against the asshat, but I'm glad you've gotten good stuff from it.
>>497487957>everyone who thinks Erato matches Claude is the same person!Lol, lmao. Keep giving me free rent.
>>497488001It's because the smarter these things are the harder it is to clamp it away into doing what it's been reward tokened to do, serve requests.
While the image is a joke, a good model for me is one that I don't need to hold its hand.
>>497488283Which is why Erato is a bad model.
>>497488560The day of the janny applications cannot come quick enough.
>>497488619Did that not happen in the last few years? I remember we were all planning to apply for janny-ship so at least one of us would be able to deal with it.
>>497488681They've not opened back up since whatever the last time they were open.
>>497488681I assume this kind of thing has to happen to a lot of different threads to the point where jannies watch their favorites because I have no idea why this schizo nonce just keeps coming back (unless it's really airplane mode on and off)
>>497488886The dude has to be a basedjack or whatever, given he's involving outside sites in his crusade now.
>>497489078yeah, if you talk to the sharty they'll shit something up for you but it's really obvious because it's just endless cobson
>ERATO GOOD! >Actually, it’s kind of mild. 8K context is a joke, and their finetune wasn’t enough to remove base Llama quirks. Things like S: 5 not working right also show they didn’t test it enough. >SCHIZO!
>>497487370How is google's chatbot?
I like what I'm getting from her.
>>497489329I assume S5 and S1 don't work well because it's probably based on Ao3 star ratings and nothing there actually has a 1 or 5 star rating
>>497489329Objective criticisms: 8K contextSubjective criticisms: "Llama quirks"; "T-They didn't test it enough!"
>>497489513I don't use Google. I use Hermes with SillyTavern, sometimes the OpenRouter site itself if I'm feeling lazy, NovelAI, with few scattered local models 13B can run that I probably need to delete, since I no longer use any.
>>497489548I will be honest, Anon: this is too wide for me.
>>497489605can you please stop pretending as if the nai schizo hasn't already blown up at both the "objective" and "subjective" criticisms listed?
>>497489797Can you stop pretending like nobody's allowed to consider 8K context the only valid criticism against Erato? I've seen no objective evidence of any other criticism. Just because a schizo decides to play both sides so he can argue with himself for and against NovelAI doesn't detract from the legitimacy of my argument against him. The only criticisms which matter are objective ones. Anything else is a waste of time.
>>497489763I don't think I've ever figured out the proper storypost meta yet. Doesn't help the width changes depending on font size, so it's not really a one-size-fits-all deal (though I think 14 on my end is a pretty good one?).Is this better?
>>497218312Remove AI Roguelike from the OP.
>>497490964Remove yourself from the thread
/thread
Wondering if you can drop knowledge: Jerusalem, Crusades, Middle Ages, Sibylla of Jerusalem and get it to shit out historical smut
Would be good to know/
>>497491770this is not period accurate
>>497492098ntawtf are you talking about
>>497492172It's just our schizo swinging at shadows.
>>497492239>Medieval is about men. Women are propertyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_of_Tuscanyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_AquitaineVictorians aren't welcome.
>>497491313King Baldwin IV respecting the women of Damascus following his capture of the city. Trying to get tail one last time before leprosy takes his ability to move.
>>497492208I wonder how much brain damage it takes to become this much of a schizo. It's just a random picture of women in armor...
Any tips on how to improve full package lady content? Erato keeps dropping the balls, or other bits.
>>497492397try author note
>>497492341I wanted a fiction where Baldwin is cured by holy power, kills Guy and Raymond, and fucks his sister
>>497492692You can have that fiction right now if you prompted for it. Whether it's good is a different matter.
>>497492957Yeah but that's why I'm wondering if I should try it when I get home today
>>497492368I have to assume some of our schizos are just larping because it's infuriating but I think CF or WF are really insane.
Who teh fuck is Cf and Wf?
>>497493845A convenient scapegoat conjured up by cabal delusions.
>>497493943You'd like me to be you, wouldn't I?
New thread:>>497493950>>497493950
>>497493048You can especially tell when there's a bunch of short posts almost exactly 1:30 apart.
>>497493845CF: Claudefag. I don't actually remember his lore but I have to assume he proclaimed Claude was superior to NAI and wouldn't shut up about itWF: Whinefag. Hater of dogs. The avatar of a whiny blonde girl. Has actually sent death threats to Southern. Banned every so often but evades. I believe he came to prominence during the Kayra or Clio era, but it could have been Euterpe, time just goes to mush with whinestory.
>>497494060Whine baked this, look at the time. It's too obvious. You played yourself. Now be patient for the real bread. I'll have it baked soon.
>>497494185we still do bread wars? been a while
>>497494060>page 1
>>497494343I will make a resl thread, on untained by the cabal. Nobody cares about AI Roguelike. Just give me a moment.
>>497494427om god?
>>497494343Yes, we still do bread wars, as clearly evidenced by the one screaming about cabals and trying very hard to incite one.
>>497494423That's how you're can tell whine based it.
New>>497494682>>497494682
>>497494501Whine baked that thread at page 1. He's the one trying to start stuff. I'm just pointing out the obvious lol what are you shill? Did you bake that? Did you?
>>497494698Why are you baking another thread?
so what, we just play chicken and see who makes a thread people like?
>>497494781Because yours sucks lol. Too early. Too shilly.
>>497494818You use the one that got baked and posted at 751, the same as any other thread.
>>497494818No, we just don't use the one made by the one currently melting down about shills and cabals.
>>497494896not him but no other thread that isn't like, /gig/ or /xivg/ bakes their shit at 751, they bake at page 8 or lower like mannered people.
>>497494901So we use: >>497494682? Got it.
>>497495005This thread isn't like other threads. We've always baked around 750 since the shitposter started fucking with our OPs. You'd know that if you lurked more.
>>497495014Yes. We use that one. The other one is ahistorical and complaining about my superior bread.
>>497495132And this thread is dogshit even by /vg/ standards so I don't know what your point is, I only show up to lurk and grab presets when people post about them
>>497495283Fuck off.
>>497495132The shitposter? There is no shitposter. It's all in your head.
>>497495321no u
Why are people like this?
>>497495929Shut up, hick. I bet you made that armor thread.
Use the Blackman thread. It'd the real thread. Do not use the other thread. The cabal Madd the firdg one.
>>497496181What if the cabal made both threads? We need a third one free of bias.
>>497495929the ai demons got them
>>497496323Thats impossible because I made the Blackman thread. The cabal can't touch me. They can't touch this. Dundundundun.
Which thread should we migrate to?
>>497496483The one with a black person going ah shit here we go again duh. That's the one which represents the thread best.
>>497496483whichever one hasn't been deleted by jannies when this thread falls off the board
>>497496574hey man, san andreas was like one of the first forrays into making white kids think black people are really cool.
>>497496880That's going to be my thread. Black man walkways all wins. Ahistorical women suck. Black men rule.
>>497497096i'll be honest i think the first one might have an edge here.
>>497498868Only because cabalists are artificially inflating it with nobody cares about Milton, fick Molton, fuck Florida fuck you
>>497499596>codpieces didn't existIf more female warriors existed in real life, chainmail underwear would exist.
>>497499596While bikini armor is retarded, if women were warriors as much as men were, they would have had armor that accentuated their feminine features. A slight boob bulge, slender designs for limbs and curvy mid-sections would be quite common.
>>497501743Armor of the time was already feminine if we apply modern standards. The narrow waist for one, just look at the maximilian style of plate. I'd agree it would be more form fitting if we went with antiquity like you see with the stereotypical greek armor with abs and pecs. But there was a lot of function in plate armor at the height of its use; even codpieces were still functional as it was shaped and didn't let you gimp yourself if you got a boner, and it was lower down on the body. I don't think armor would be terribly different for females, if she was particularly busty then I could see the breastplate being expanded a bit, but adding bulges for tits would compromise its ability to cleanly deflect since it's no longer one nice curve all the way through.Probably continue this in new thread if you want.
>>497502695Armor is not always practical; vanity armor would, no doubt, exist.
>female fighters
>>497499596>>497500363Chainmail underwear literally existed though. But yeah, women wearing functional armour is always hot.
