This is the life, nothing better EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>498111923This general is for cooperative games, titles which need more than one player and requires them to work together to win. Examples include: Vermintide, Darktide, Deep Rock Galactic, Helldivers ect.>Latest News/Updates:Darktide: Hotfix #48 (1.5.1) Patch Noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4653997209644504997Vermintide 2:Lore Post: Skaven Chronicles part 1https://steamcommunity.com/games/552500/announcements/detail/4574056414664507550?snr=2___Helldivers 2:Patch 1.001.102https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___Wartracker:https://helldivers.io/Info:https://divers.ggDeep Rock Galactic:https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749Payday 3:https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/Remnant 2:The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___Earth Defense Force 6https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2Left 4 Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFOThe Forever Winter>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBABuild planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
So what are some good perks for vet? I'm running crit chance on melee and reload on ranged, plus something like damage to flak or elite.
I am once again requesting assistance on skipping/cancelling the slow-down effect of Scrier's Gaze on activation. I just want to go sprint, why does my character have to deal with an aneurysm first?
>>498236315Just use it while sliding.
>>498236181Damage vs flak / maniac / unyielding is what I use on most weapons.
>>498239473You don't get crit or reload at all? Or weakspot damage?
i wanna rape all smykers
>>498239545Weakspot damage is horrible. If your base damage is 100, and a headshot is 150, you probably think +10% weakspot damage is 15, right? Wrong, it's +10% of the additional 50 damage, which is 5.
>>498239545Building for breakpoints to reduce the number of shots needed on elite/specials is generally better than crit fishing for most weapons. Vet has enough reload, except maybe for bolter or plasma. 10% Weakspot damage perk isn't as good as it should be, it's only applied to the additional damage caused by a weakspot hit, rather than the overall damage (100 damage hit +20 for a weakspot; the 10% weakspot damage only gives 2 more damage, instead of 12)
fuck poxies
I am a shitter. How big is the difficulty jump from malice to heresy
Boltpistol, crack, hero sword, shout, tag is the most retardedly foolproof combo with zero downsides and there's no reason to use anything else
>>498241296not much, the real difficulty jump is your teammates become 100x more dogshit. just level up doing malice maelstroms.
>>498239545I only know of a single breakpoint weakspot damage gets you over and I've tested almost every weapon.
>>498240431>>498240306Fuck, that sucks.Time to change perks...
>>498241739Crit damage is the same way, the bonus is only applied to the "extra" damage
>>498241312shit build
Vet's 10% rending perk is surprisingly strong, it was like 15% extra damage on crushers
>>498240306>Weakspot damage is horrible. If your base damage is 100, and a headshot is 150, you probably think +10% weakspot damage is 15, right? Wrong, it's +10% of the additional 50 damage, which is 5.Thank you fatshark for making such easy to understand stats and game design
>>498240306I hate swedes so much...
Gunlugger ogryns are literally Kerillians of Darktide. The are retarded 95% of the time, they act as if all the ammo in the mission belongs the them, they take most damage and they think they're doing nothing wrong because they get green circles.
>>498241998Depending on your weapon it can be as much as 10x damageit depends on the percentage of armor pen it already has. Going from 1% to 11% on a fast shooty gun is obviously a way bigger damage increase than going from 70% to 80% on like, a bolter
>>498240306>>498240431Does crit damage work the same?
>>498240431>>498240306Does this apply to skills that boost weakspot damage as well, like Precision Strikes?
>>498244145Yes
>>498240306tranner once again proved to be a shitter then
>>498243871wait so the ol' colomnus V would rape anything even harder with this rending bonus
>>498244702Yeah try the brittleness stuff on the right bottom side too
>>498244986onslaught I presume
onslaught columnus is a meme, takes too much of your magazine to build the stacks
>>498245210>onslaught columnusOnslaught works with ranged attacks?
>>498245210interesting take but my marksmans focus exec stance onslaught build kills 4 crushers per mag with the columnus
>>498245281yup yup
>>498245401Now that's interesting.Precision Strikes might be bad because of what was posted earlier so I now get something better to spend it on while also working down towards weapon specialist.
>>498245513>Precision Strikes might be bad
>>498245513yeah but +50% for both melee and ranged in a more accessible place than onslaught
>>498245513precision strikes is good by pure virtue of being 30% of it, which is enough to make a difference
>>498243871Even on boltgun it is a massive damage increase.
>>498245631The rending skill is even less accessible than onslaught.
>>498245658That's still too little to compete against other, more valuable perks.
>>498245874Now this is a build I want to see.
>>498245874as long as you got iron will you have 90% of vets power enabled anyway
>>498245787meant precision strikes, tho rending is next to "bring it down"
>>498246034Eh... about that...
When did they fuckover the boons in chaos wastes? There used to be a lot of cool ones but now I swear that 70% of them are something like:>while hanging from a ledge on a tuesday during a waxing moon, your teammates recover stamina 20% faster.
i need a qrd on weapon masteryis it shared across all characters or do i have to grind bolter for a zealot as well?
>>498246647If it's a common pool weapon both classes have, all progress is shared.
>>498246691good. i'll have to grind my lucius lasgun next then
>Focus target on M1I wish this wasn't retarded, it works so well
>>498246901sure if you never want more than one stack
>>498246935It doesn't seem to be spent again if it's the same enemy, so yeah
>>498246901That's shitty reddit advice.
>>498246791don't forget about sacrifice, gives you a few levels
>>498246901I prefer M2
>>498246935Hey one stack is +4%, two is 8%, that's more than enough for breakpoints
I want a stormvermin to step on me
>>498248190
>>498246901realasianrobotbros we are vindicated
Why couldn't this be "kill N enemies while they are burning from immolation grenade"? I throw grenades at every horde and the progress is still almost non-existent. I get that I can farm this easily using many more try mod, but seriously — this is more annoying than it should've been.
>>498248235she could fix me
>>498249481i want to be hugged by her
So what classes would you actually like to see that would fit in the game's design?
>>498251468Space marinehehe
>>498251468combat servitor
>>498251468mechanicus tech adept/skitarii would be nice
whats with all the ogynigs being gunlugs?
>>498251468abject faggot retard loser that all the npcs constantly run downhallowette should, canonically, fuck the character's girlfriend
>>498251468Arbites
>>498251586it's not like there's a lot of ogryn variety, there's nothing else to pick it they want to pew pew
This general belongs to Slaanesh!
>>498251468Ratlings would fit a pretty unique role.+Marksman-Pitiful melee weapons-Can barely push enemies back+Grail Knight Kruber potion ability but spawns ammo and health+Stealthiest class perks
>>498252047no, it belongs to the emperor
>>498251869>one of the personalities can be a judge dredd by the book legal code spam
>>498252347>constantly questions which protocol the psyker keeps babbling about>at the end gets insulted in french
>One week without internet connectionI'ma bout to queue up an auric with my fucking 4G
>>498252498play some roguelite instead lke halls of torment
infernus or dumdum for the recon?
>>498252047SEEEEX
I love sister larpers
>>498251586ranged weapons kind suck, melees are all kinda wonky, so your only option is shield, but ugh, or shoot and suppress the million shooters
anyonegot a fun accatran build? I feel like mine isn't that good. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3c188b-f6ef-4100-8406-0562a5f3b6c5/test-42?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_buttonIs it worth going into the tree on the right at the end for more crit chance?
>>498252875slags of battle
>>498241998>>498244702>>498245281Brittleness/rending also boosts the damage of ongoing DoT (bleed, fire). That is to say, put the "infernus" blessing on your 1200 rpm recon lasgun and eat crushers even faster.
>>498252875For the first time after 800 hours I have oinked for the zealot armor...
Do they still have hard mode twins curio available? Haven't played since the event and never finished that specific mode
>>498253330infernus + dum dum for big damage, especially on bossesheadhunter + dum dum for better ammo economy
>>498253950so no headhunter?!
>>498253861the mission is a permanent thing yeah
>put thrust on my weapon>play worse because I'm chasing the 3rd stack when I shouldn't
sex with kerillian
>>498254157anon pls
I got this knife on my Zealot some time ago.Should I keep it or hunt for another one with 60% in mobility?
>>498253950>no onslaught
>>498254286As if that could happen consensually lumberfoot
>>498251586Because Ogryn has one fun gun (Twin Stubber) and lord knows I'm fucking using it over any other option.>Ripper Guns all feel horribly clunky and weirdly weak even though shit dies fast when you shoot it>Thumper is fun until the sound effects wear off and then you realize it's doing very little because the cunt you domed is now separate from the horde that was around him two seconds ago after he stopped, so the splash hits nobody but him>Blastoom is fucking dog shit. It sounds incredible on paper, then you use it, and the explosive punch, its selling point, doesn't do anything more over just shooting the thing, and its splash is abysmal when shooting>>>>>>>>>>Kickback
>>498254369it's only useful against crushers, not really worth the investment compared to what you'd give up
>>498254364Yes you should not use knife
>>498254364first target is the most important stat on the knife
>>498254724I'm stooooogering
>>498254438
>>498255538you can't fool me, knowing this artist that's probably not even kroober and the elf, and that elf is probably a boy
>>498253774post youre toon, sista!
>>498254364you can actually dump pen if you are using uncanny strike..
what the fuck do you run on the double barrel shotgun as vet?
>had my first loss all week>it was a smite psyker making sure to cc everything as spread out and difficult to kill as possibleim mad
>Blame smigger because you couldn't "reach" the enemyThat's a new one
YON BARREL
kerillian is for rats, only
>>498257409YON BARR-https://youtu.be/iva_RuMiiDo
>>498257606
>>498254547i don't understand your ripper and kickback complaints
>>498246901fuck that, I leave. Not gonna endure 25 minutes of DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING
>Starship Troopers crashes to desktop nearly every time I hit evacA shame, since there's a somewhat serviceable game under it's not lagging for everyone and throwing shitfits because they swapped to UE5
zealotnigs are the elf of darktide
when is hallonween event ?
>>498258807gungryn is OE and elf wrapped into one
>>498258807Only when holding a knife.
>>498258938doesn't matter
What's so special about the knife that gave it such a love-and-hate reputation?I haven't played much with, but it doesn't really look impressive to me.
>>498258938soon™
>>498252047Literally me
>>498255859who's the artist
>>498255859or a futa mutant thing tranny faggot shit.
>>498260101repressed coomer says what
>>498251586Ogryn lacks gun variety and the kickback/stubbers are noticeably better than the other options
>>498251586Being able to press F and delete a huge mixed horde of varying size in a single magdump is a lot more fun than the typical ogryn gameplay of just pressing H1 H1 H1 on shield and nothing else.Both are equally strong, but one puts me to sleep.
>>498260769stubbers and rippers are about equal in power ime
I can't remember a single interaction from Darktide, meanwhile pogger's bridge pops into my head every other day.
>>498261740heard that one before
>>498261740I CANNAE DO AUGHT ELSEDID YAE EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE?HAHA, I AWOKE WROTH THIS DAYYON BARRE-
>>498261740HE KNEW YOUD SAY THATAND HE LAUGHEDA BEEEEEGBELLYLAAAAFFFFFFF
>>498261942>redditbuddy
>carry the team through literal hell>no one says gg at the end
>>498261740yeah when you've played one game for 5 hours and the other for 1000 the latter tends to stick in your head more
>carry the team through literal hell>they all say gg at the end as if they did anything
>>498263482based>>498262998insecure
>>498262998based>>498263482>>498263764samefag
>>498263482>everyone goes down the instant after I save them for all the third time>I get dogged on hunting grounds, finally, while they're all dead, again>they say "nt"
Behold.
>>498259468Those lacking in faith are afraid of death in service to the God Emperor. They are prone to panic when a beacon of devotion such as myself isn't in their immediate vicinity.
>>498263959cope>>498263482king
>>498261740I like the one between seer psyker and bully ogryn:>Bully: My gun is bigger than yours>Seer: Yes sweet brute, I'm sure it's very impressive>Bully: My hurty-stick is bigger than yours>Seer: Not everything is a competition>Bully: Losers always say that
>>4982640493/10 apply yourself
>>498263009
>fem fanatic starts telling bully ogryn he is the perfect vessel of the emperor's wrath because he's not weak, and never tires, unlike her>as I'm picking him up from his second deathgotta humor the poor slabalmost as good as when I play breakfast ogryn and he keeps telling the vet how strong the enemy must be to have knocked him down for the 22nd time as I pick him up
>>498264203I started playing on thursday and still have no idea how to make builds, anon-kug.
I will not GG loner shroud zealots who abandon the team to die then "clutch" rescuing everyone.
>>498261740Uhhhh something something Cadia
>>498264523>Can't handle aggroNot auric ready.
>>498264583Indeed, the coward knife zealot is not ready for aurics
>>498264523I will not push into 5 gunners, a flamer, a bulwark, a crusher, two maulers, an incoming poxburster, and a bomber to rescue you*disappears*bye
Darktide needs more Blood Ravens
>>498264613>Thinking you have the right to bitch from the backseat spectator box.lmao.Have you tried not dying?
>>498264049I mean sure but I personally wouldn't leave the mourningstar without>demolition stockpile>precision strikes>fully loaded>superiority complex>desperado
>>498264049What is this? A columnus build? What's your reasoning for not picking 30% weak spot damage and 20% ogryn damage then?>going 2 points out of the way to pick up 5% crit chance
>>498264613>no uyou're as bad at banter as you are at the game
>>498264724Out of those, the only one I really wish I had points for and might sacrifice 5% crit chance for is Desperado.>>498264880Mk I shovel and Agripinaa.>30% weak spotBecause of what was said in the beginning of the thread.>20% ogrynMore damage and crits work on everything, not just ogryn.
sure is getting uppity in here, maybe you should make like a knife zealot and leave
>>498264648We can't expect the God Emperor to do all the work, kindred.
>>498265084Maybe you should go into the meat grinder and actually see how much more damage you do with +30% weakspot damage, takes less than a minute
>>498265084>Because of what was said in the beginning of the thread.Actually believing coopg misinformation is the epitome of low intellect.
>>498264049poo poo peeh peeh
>>498263482>>498262998>tfw you have to single-handedly carry the whole operation
>30% weakspot damage is actually bad because it's only an extra headshot worth of damage every three shots and my gun shoots 20 bullets every seconderrrm....
why do i have so much diamantine compared to plasteel
>>498261740SAH!SAH!I'M THINKING OF PUTTING IN FOR A PROMOTION.
>>498265264Why would anyone go in the internet and say lies?
God I hate Behind Enemy Lines so much. What fucking asshole designed this Penance.>be out of coherency >need to backstab enemies from behind>enemies will all turn around to face you the second stealth breaks>ranged human enemies can instant 180 to melee you if you don't kill them fast enough after a push>getting matched with vets using plasma gun/recon lasgun/bolter who just mow down every single ranged enemy before you can even blink
>>498265974Backstabs also apply to ranged weapons, pick up an infantry gun or whatever, and mow gunpacks down from behind. Its a LOT faster.
>>498264523Sounds like you should follow the more experienced zealot if your poor positioning is getting you killed while his good positioning is letting him survive and finish the mission.
>>498265740let's trade
>>498265974It's tedious but you can do as >>498266102 said and it's somewhat forgiving on the arc. If you push and sidestep you're usually within backstabbing range.
>>498264049at least do this so you don't take grenades from ogryns and zealots
>lethal proximity/puncture bolt pistol>flesh tearer/mercy killer knifeBlood for the Emperor
>>498266804Why not give up one node and get cqc?
>>498266584has he considered heavy attack
>>498265084>Because of what was said in the beginning of the thread.bro 30% is a loteven if it's just on a 50% damage boost that's still 15% more damage, it's all but guaranteed to get you past a few breakpoints in melee or with semi autos and more average dps than 5% crit chance with automatic weaponspeople in the beginning of the thread were talking about the perk, which is only 10% and is competing with real alternatives
Any way to make picrel less onboxious? It just can't kill shit. Well, it can kill poxwalkers, but that doesn't really help.
>>498267101can't you use empowered psyonics or scrier's gaze to buff assail damage?
>>498267072Alright, I gave up on the +5 crit and got that plus Desperado.
>>498267101something like this makes it quite strong. Especially since you can spam assail at 100% for 10seconds after F
>>498266954Valid but it doesn't make or break the grenademaxxing memebuild
It's time to admit Loner is the best female Psyker voice
>>498267905None of the female psykers are great ngl desu.
>>498266526Grenade regeneration has been the single most valuable point since the game launchedUnironically game-carrying on its own
>>498267219>>498267458Okay, I'll try scrier's gaze, though I expect I'll explode many times with that.
>>498268094yep, there's a reason they removed the team-wide grenade regen perk when they introduced ogryn nukes
>>498268150>explodethe outermost talent for scriers called warp unbound prevents you from exploding for 10 seconds.You can also move a point over to the "don't die when exploding" talent, and get +1 wounds from a curio. Still auric viable.
>80, 80, 80, 80, 61I'm assuming that 61 is going to correct itself to 60 if I try empowering this
>>498268405Pretty sure I have a weapon that's 80/62. It's something to do with decimals.
>>498268405Sometimes an 80 will correct itself to 79. All the joy of gambling.
>>498268405>>498268730Assuming the total amount of stats is the same at 500 and max stat is at 80.0, how come I have 80x4 & 59 on a weapon?
>>498268964Swedish math.
>nuFlamer really isn't all that amazing>bolter is somewhat viable now, but there's nothing special about it on zealot, whereas on vet it can be buffed to ridiculous heights>they took rending on fury away, so there's basically nothing else to pick but revolver or its lesser cousin, bolt pistolokay, so where the fuck's my melta then?
>It's another Zealot with the edge-lord voice that sounds like someone doing a poor impression of Scorpion from Mortal Kombat
>>498269758>nothing special about new bolter on zealotHERESY
>smite randomly targets either 100 enemies or refuses to target more than five poxwalkers while I'm trying to target a dozen gunners right in front of me
>>498269935zealot's not going to turn it into a crusher two tap, sorry
>>498269875That's the most popular voice. Redditors will violently assault you for saying a word against it.
>>498269758>bolter is somewhat viableit's minimum A tier you fucking bimboTry the bolt pistol if the big one is too slow for you
I'M STUCK IN THE FUCKING COOORNEEER. Teaaaammuh
>>498268061Savant's voice is great. Shame it's the most boring by-the-book personality.
>>498269875It's so fucking bad, it's trying too damn hard played by a man with voice two sizes too small for the body type he's trying to pull off. It's peak 14 year old trying to seem like a hardass.
>>498270235If I want to play bolter, I'll play vet. Bringing it on zealot is pure cope. It's one of "his better picks" means jack shit when it's played so much better by another class. Vet has two unique ranged options, psyker has his staves, ogryn's entire ranged arsenal is unique to him. Zealot has one unique ranged weapon, and it was VERY good at one point, then they kneecapped it, and now they're letting it be kind of sort of good again, but not really. I do not care for this treatment.Give me melta.
How rare are curios with +3 stamina? I can't for the life of me find one, it's all +2.
>>498270595she really can't sell the [pained/maniacal laughter] thing either when it would have been the perfect way to add some character. the calm and cool surface fighting against the crazy ass bitch inside her head
>>498270226For me? It's the Fanatic voice (the old Irishman)
>>498270781>Give me melta.It belong to the tech priest.
>>498270781>Give me melta.What's that? Another shovel? Maybe an autogun variant? Please enjoy Reject!
>>498271512they're not even capable of making cosmetics for two genders, you really think they're going to make cosmetics that work with a man with cybernetic appendages?
>>498270840I don't check shop as often these days but it feels like chances of getting 17 toughness / 21 hp / 3 stam curios is very very low, even melk doesn't sell them.
>sweep and clear penanceis this confirmed bugged? I got it in one mission despite it requiring 7.5k kills
>>498268405ive got 80/59 ;-;
>>498265562>>49826508430% weakspot damage works out to be like 8-12% actzal damage increase on most weps which isnt a ton but its significant enough to matter. If you could get 8-12% damage to all enemies for a skill point you would. Thats what this is. When people advised against weakspot damage it was on weps, where its 10%, so like 3% actual damage. 3% actual damage vs 25% damage to one enemy is suddenly no longer a good deal. Opportunity cost
>>498270781flamer is better now than it's ever been, don't know what you're going on aboutyou do know you're supposed to build it for crits because they do double stacks, right?
>>498270840i got two +3 stamina's from the grind to get 1 M thrones to buy the only cosmetic camo i have access to that ALSO camo's the armour plate.>here, gaurdsman, your camouflage fatigues so you can sneak and hide.>now have your completely black armour plate so you stand out like a ore thumb forever! we even made it glossy so light catches it too!>now go hide and ambush the chaos with it.
>>498272490lel i guess you missed it. That's okay.
>>498272490No you arent, it puts on max stacks fast as fuck. Brittleness and blaze away (or show stopper if you have density for it) are the actual good blessings
>>498271229I hate it.
>>498271229i love how the irishman is just anormal NORTH ireland...
>>498272645>Brittleness and blaze away (or show stopper if you have density for it) are the actual good blessingsit doesn't have any crit increasing blessings so I don't know what you think this has to do with my post
>>498270840I have dozens of extra +3 stamina curios, they're way more common than 17/21 ones.
>>498272764It has a crit related blwssing now. If you're just talking perks then taking crit over flak or carapace or unyielding is kinda dumb too
>>498261740ogryn sad they wont let him fly the valkyrie
>>498270840>>498272838So just after posting this the trader reset and I got a +3 one.>>498271846Do you use the health ones? I've always favoured the toughness cause it's so much easier to replenish than health.Still on the lookout for a +17 tou...
Femzealot is down again
on my knees for big ehis grace is so big
Bros I've been playing a lot of Vermintide 2 and at this point I definitely know why people liked it. The level design and overall "feeling" of the game is good, but I cannot get over how ugly the game's lighting is a lot of the time.There's some maps when it looks good like in the intro to Convocation of Decay: the sun shadows seeping into the temple look great. But when there's no dramatic shadows or huge light sources, the lighting is so flat and lifeless. You can set half a room on fire as Sienna and none of it will light the room up or create shadows. Webm related is Trail of Treachery on max settings and it looks like this interior is blatantly unfinished, can't believe this map released in 2022 because it looks like a 2006 game room.>inb4 "don't be a graphicswhore who cares about it"But look at Vermintide 1. The game's visuals were so much better and added to the atmosphere. What happened to the developers in the meantime to decide not to bother making the sequel look good? It's so jarring to play this game and look at a beautiful skybox in the distance and then look right in front of you to see a room that looks like this.
>>498273719this map looks like a mod, lol
>>498273719small family company
Rolling steel is such a crapshoot. Sometimes your team goes down 9 times and you win, sometimes everyone can handle themselves yet they refuse to move faster than a geriatric shuffle.
>>498273719I dont remember my against the grain looking like this at all. Did you fuck something up?
>>498273993wait nvm I didnt see the part that said its some other map. I never played that one, that seems fucked and bad
>>498273719yeah i was bemused to see people praising the game's graphics back when it released, half the time it looks super washed out like there's no illumination system at all
>>498253950Just tried this and it was very, very fun. Diving into a group of Gunners + Reaprs, hitting F and obliterating everything and coming out unscathed was fun.But I can't keep my team alive without Shout so Its going to be shelved.
>>498273719The lighting from 1 to 2 is such a nosedive, it's insulting.
Not doing my psyker weeklies this week. I have plenty of time to finish them today, I just hate playing psyker. All my niggas hate psykers.
>Swaps to my Psyker to do the one weekly I have left
>>498273964Rolling Steel is a mission wherein I'm forced to ask "what did he even go down to? how could he possibly have gone down?" at a rate that is alarming
decided to test the flamethrower in the psykhanium because people were talking about it and I don't trust anyone's opinions except my own and damage versus actually does affect the tick damageyou people lied to me and said it didn't
>>498274540No I didn't
>get to last part of moebian steel auric>dozens of snipers outta nowhere>entire team dies because they don't know how to dodge>loseVeteran fucking shits. Every single one of you.
>>498274540I thought that was obvious. Who said it didn't?
>>498274535the answer is usually 1-3 shooters up on a ledge. People just fully ignore the above path
>>498273468>which curios to equipExcluding woundmaxxing martyrdom zealot;You should max health because chip damage is inevitable and every class has tons of ways to regen toughness anyway.Actually you should max toughness because all the toughness-related calculations in the game work with percentages, except enemy damage (and coherency but who cares).Actually you should max stamina because it's the only resource that can't be substituted for skill.
Thoughts on running one +3 stamina curios on a Martydom build? I don't feel I need the max Martydom damage output, but I really want the stamina.
>>498274540It's really cool when people just spout untested misinfo. The crazy part is that those people will also defend it every time
>>498275512and then the entire general get the blame for it
>>498275486One +3 stamina curio feels like it's almost always worth it to me, I do run one with my Martyrdom build
>>498275486Go for it, more stam is always neat and means less downtime where you need to chill
>>498275486I started doing that recently.
>>498275512the guy who insisted that shredder grenades kill crushers comes to mind
>>498273719
>>498272607I've been playing since the beta. No I don't care if CRUSHERS could be HERE, losing the ability to kill them with it using F is more than made up with with all the new shit. You kill mixed hordes with ragers and maulers in it much faster now with blazing piety massively decreasing the time it takes to get to max stacks (since the damage is exponential you do very little until that point) and penetrating flame. Plus since there were no aurics back then its best use case wasn't as relevant.
Are autpistols good at anything besides supressing\staggering enemies before you bumrush with melee? I can see abilities and guns for "elite" focusing but crowd control guns (scoutlas, autopistol, braced autoguns) feel underwhelming for some reason. It feels like I want the second gun slot in Darktide. inb4: your Doomrot brain demands shotgunst. psyker and vet player
simply cannot wrap my head around demon fusion in furclick but watching my horseguy facetank lu wu and take exactly 0 damage while I unload into his ass for 50 seconds is exciting
>>498275965It annihilated everything including crushers, monstrosities, and bosses in SECONDS. It broke the game. I think that's a lot more powerful than what we have today, auric or not.
>>498236057I've had Darktide in my library for a couple of months, but I played for the first time this weekend and holy shit I've been missing out.The game is a lot of fun, I was already a big fan of DRG and Vermintide, currently leveling a psyker and a zealot, testing weapons/skills to find out what I like the most.Thanks for reading my blog.
>>498276183autopistols are good for one thing: killing maniacs. Mostly mutants.
>>498246901I was in a game with a Vet who did this a day or two ago. I got why he did it—I neglect to make full use of that keystone as well—but holy fuck was it annoying.
>>498276275>taking 50 seconds to kill Lu Wuyour build is already bricked at this point if that's the case
>>498276581Thanks, switching to a lasptiol with infernus (what does burning even do? it just looks cool) then for more enjoyable pew-pewing.
>>498275965>losing the ability to kill them with it using F is more than made up with with all the new shitLol, lmao. Yeah it's for sure still as good as it was AND no longer requires utilizing something not everyone knows about and yet for some reason I very rarely see anyone use flamer.
>>498276882Good choice. Burning is damage over time. And the DoT can increase if you apply more and more burn.
>>498276897i wish i could bring flamer and a pistolthrowing knives are gay
>>498275441Hum.......................
>>498275708grim
>>498277224>flamertard>dislikes the most fun zealot blitzaimlet
so putting mercy killer on zealot doesn't give anything right since it only applies to already bleeding enemies? am i understanding that right?
>>498276490Happy to have you, anon. I hope you have a lot of fun.
>>498277696if I'm understanding your post correctly then yeah. but if I'm not then no.
I've started running Demolition Team over Demo Stockpile, but I'm not sure I care for it. Might drop Field Improv and take both on my shout builds
>>498277671i don't use flamer and my aim is better than yours so yeah ur gay
Why do Zealots call Veterans "Templar" instead of "Guardian". Since you know...Guardsman?
>>498274238do you actually need Melkbucks though?
>>498277843Field Improv is a meme anyway
>>498277696hit him twice
>>498277696bro...your flesh tearer and crit talents?
>>498274540No, every timve I've seen it, I've explicitly said that damage-oriented perks worked on the flame ticks according to my own testing
>>498275708miss my weapons being in good condition if a bit scratched.VT2 they are all rusty and shit. Never been polished/oiled once
>>498277403I usually use one of each.
>>498278084Yeah you really don't get much value out of it. If I always ran with friends, I think I'd get more use out of it, but at this point, I'd rather just have too many limes to hold
>>498263482>>498262998Did you though? Did you reeeaaaaaallly?Or did you zoomzoomfaggot stealth through everything running deeper into the mission aggroing and spawning everything and aggroing it ontonyour team as the had to do 4 peoples jobs with only 3, x the extra waves and spawns you triggered being a cunt.Methinks YOU were the carried faggot. Who kept getting everyone ELSE killed with your bullshit. You fucking khornate scum.
>>498278574if things were aggro'd onto my team I'd think they wouldn't have half as much damage done as me actually
Fem fanatic sob cosplayer with evis and chorusName a more iconic woman loadout
Can I get a chat gpt summary of the tanner video on why uncanny strike is bad
>>498273993>I dont remember my against the grain looking like this at allAgainst the Grain can look great or shit fully dependent on the weather. Some maps have randomized weather/timeofday and the flaws of the lighting system become obvious when there's no sun or large looming buildings to create dramatic contrasts.I'm pretty sure if I loaded into Against the Grain when there's no sun it would graphically look way worse than this.
we know, manling
>>498278885Crushers could be here
>>498278885He's retarded and thinks he's smarter than he is.
>>498278574all carrying means is they could've won without you but you couldn't have won without themand this stops being up to debate if you die even once and need to be rescuedall this other stuff you're trying to save your ego with is irrelevant
Can you red pill me on Martyrdom boys?I want a fast choppy Rashad Mk3 axe.Is Martyrdom good or should I just go down the blazing piety route?
>>498278885He thinks needing to spam it on poxers to build stacks makes it impractical, even though in 99.9% of scenarios you'll have it maxed out just from killing stuff normally.
>>498281324martyrdom is good if you're doing its penances
>>498281324Martyrdom isn't bad but you have to play a hair's breathe away from death to get the most out of it and invest a lot of talent points and curio slots to it to get the most out of it. Just stack wounds and try it yourself, it actually does a crazy amount of damage but I never really feel like I'm doing anything I couldn't do just as easily with a Blazing Piety build.
>>498278885he doesnt understand how rending works and tested it on weapons that already have armor pen
>>498276690eh, just need a weapon I can sink upgrades intoI'm trying stuff out with the ink guy and wasn't able to unload into his head, his back was turnedbetter stuff will comeOnce I get a sword or smg I can gemini I'll be set, I reckon
you only remember poggers bridge because it plays 5 times every mission
>>498281324unless you are trying to make evisc 2 or thammer work, it's really just not worth itthey need to>buff the toughness DR node again>take it off a wound system, make it just health % based>make max stacks at 25% HP, dead on with holy revenant>make the ability CDR node not retardedand that makes it worth considering heavily against blazing pietyand the last step would be making its affects apply to ranged weapons, but vettrannies will rage at me if I say this out loud again
Ahem...DEATH to the heretic DEATH to the blasphemer DEATH to the vermin and DEATH to the UNWORTHY DEATH by the holy light of SIGMAR HOOOLY LUSTRATION I CLEANSE THY DEPRAVED EXISTENCE
What are the best personalities?
>>498281324rashad is a crit weapon
>>498282957my mom says I have a charming personality
>zealot with bolter>picks up ammo, magdumps everything into first mobs he sees, proceeds to be at 0 ammo
>>498282957if i tell people about the best ones, they'll gradually become overused everywhere and the oversaturation will make them annoying
THE CRIME IS YOUR FOUL EXISTENCETHE SENTENCE IS DEATH
>>498283716This is why I main Psyker, I'm perfectly self sufficient. I regularly complete Aurics without taking any damage.
>>498283716I need my contract, varlet
>>498283716the zealot ammo hogging will continue until we receive the meltaI am no longer askingthe zealot ammo hogging will continue after we receive the melta, as it will naturally be an extremely ammo intensive weapon
>>498282737Making it % based would already help a lot. Having to run wound curios is such a fucking piece of shit when this is the build that needs toughness more than anyone else in the game.
>>498281019zealotfags get teams killed. its what they do. you can keep pretending you're so great, saving people from the problems YOU inflicted upon them. that just makes you a deep state swampian. you may as well be a card carrying DNC or RINO shitcunt.
>>498284582Reddit is that way.>noooooo the 3 of us went down to a horde and the zealot is soloing the same horde with no effort? what the fuck!!! stop causing problems!!
>>498281324It was the contrarian option even before unlocked and loaded, with the invocation of death buff it gets blown out of the water so hard by blazing piety there's no reason to take it unless you legitimately go down enough to need all those wounds.
>>498282957>CutthroatGreat intensity but constant Cadia references can be a little annoying.>Loose CannonAlright but overused.>ProfessionalCouldn't tell you anything about it. Bland. You can't really go wrong with vets.>JudgeExtremely overused, male is terribly overacted. My least favorite of all.>AgitatorKind of a whinier pretentious Saltzpyre which is fun in its own way.>FanaticGood but dominated by the accent. I think fanatic and agitator are tied and some of the better voices in the game.>SavantOverused, easy on the ears but boring lines.>LonerVoice can be a bit grating but some fun lines and delivery.>SeerLines can be a bit grating but fun sometimes. Psykers really are a pick your poison option.>BullyThe most classic ogryn.>BodyguardThis one might annoy me as much as Judge if ogryn were more popular. Trying a bit too hard to be heavy weapons guy.>BrawlerOverly wholesome but whatever. Not much to choose from since all ogryns are caricatures.
>>498285113>the zealot is soloing the same horde with no effortYou would have a point if playing zealot with all the crutches was difficult.
Anyone tried starship troopers since it hit 1.0? How is it now? Is the playerbase still really bad at base building?
>>498285501Why he is able to carry you is irrelevant in determining whether or not you got carried (you did)
>>498285501>playing veteran>the easiest and strongest class>somehow the zealot is the one who uses crutcheslmao
>>498270781christ you're retarded go back to queer trader
>>498273719A lot of things were lost and forgotten going from VT1 to VT2, but VT2 is still the more played game because of the gameplay, go figure. VT1 even had a cool codex book with lots of reading material including the backstories of the characters. No such thing in VT2, but does anyone care or remembers?
>>498285618didn't they increase the price
>>498285618I saw a round on a stream the day release dropped and yes, base wasn't built like at all.
>>498282957>>498285332Fem Seer is based, not just because it sounds like Sienna (which it isn't), but because she's borderline schizophrenic. Also friendly toward Ogryns.Ultimately choice doesn't matter anymore since you can fully recreate your character at the barber now.
I like Darktide as a "l4d in a cool setting". I think VT2 is a more complete game at the moment but I don't like fantasy setting (sell the game on me pls).
>>498286323No, play it or don't faggot
>>498285689>>498285794I'm not that guy. I'm just saying that if you're a knife/duelingtard with invis then you're not carrying anything, you're making the game harder for everyone for no valid reason other than to brag about how sometimes you can "clutch" the game after almost causing a wipe because staying alive is the only thing you're good for. Invis is significantly less useful than other abilities, it doesn't give you nearly as much dps as dash and doesn't prevent people from going down in the first place like chorus. Main benefit of invis is being able to use gadgets but let's be real, invistards never do it.>veteran>the easiestZealot is by far the easiest class.
Is All or Nothing still bugged on the sapper shovel?
>>498286868>Zealot is by far the easiest class.The downside is that if you play too much zealot you become retarded and forget how to play the game with the other classes. It's like having training wheels on. I just play all 4 and experiment, the only way to not get bored.
>>498286868Shitty bait. Reddit is that way. Try again when you 3 stop going down to the horde that the zealot is soloing.
>>498286323>sell the game on me plsOk, assume the doggy style position. I'll use you as a shop stall.
>>498286868>you're making the game harder for everyone for no valid reason other than to brag about how sometimes you can "clutch" the game after almost causing a wipe because staying alive is the only thing you're good forThat was part of the *lf stereotype in Vermintide. You could almost bet on handmaidens or shades running ahead from any fight that turned remotely ugly and then getting praise heaped on them when they rezzed the team. I'd rather wipe and move onto the next game than play with a group so dysfunctional.
>>498287336I'd bet that zealot will soon become even stronger than it is already because people are catching up to how poorly some talent tree branches are structured and devs will change it. Then we'll see 2+ zealots every game for half a year, and then zealot will finally get some deserved nerfs to survivability. Maybe. Not sure what they were thinking when they gave zealot invisibility. It's like giving ogryn invisibility. It might be okay in terms of lore but it just breeds retards thinking they're hot shit when they're the last to go down after they take ability that's all about dumping aggro on team and running away from enemies.>>498288218Your concession is accepted.>>498288463Yeah it's exactly that thing. They don't realize that they're the last alive not because they're good, but because of their class/ability.
>>498285853>rogue trader>boltgun>sm2Every serious 40k game has melta except yours.
>>498288676Why are veteran players so out of touch with reality? Is it because they have the easiest class to play and they feel insecure about it?>zealot is too tanky!Says the guy that has shout (do I need to elaborate?)>zealot stealth is too strong!Says the guy with infiltrate that lasts 4 times longer than shroud
>>498288676Invis doesn't make sense to me as well, but I don't think FS gave much thought to it anyway. Just recycled whatever they had in VT and reused it, kitchen sink and all. Just wait until people realize that the bolter is just a recycled repeater handgun with meatier sound effects.
>>498289013sm2 melta is a shotgun lmao
>>498289172>Why are veteran playersStopped caring and didn't read after this>>498289201>bolter is just a recycled repeater handgun with meatier sound effectsHol up.
>>498285332Savant is the only one I can't even remember.
>>498288676>some deserved nerfs to survivabilityBut enough about veteran.>They don't realize that they're the last alive not because they're good, but because of their class/ability.But enough about veteran.I see not a single complaint about zealot? You're just complaining about veteran being overtuned.
>>498289306>anti armor cone puff that can stagger/kill bulwarkspretty great idea for a zealot weapon, too bad swedes are too lazy
>>498282957For Psyker I was just trying to pick the least annoying one, but Seer has grown on meAll the Ogryn ones are fun, Loose Cannon is the only charismatic Veteran
>>498290290if plasma can't go through bulwarks neither can melta
>you see actually it's the fault of the person who is alive killing shit and diverting aggro that us 3 sticking together diedoldest cope in the book and always the funniest. I especially love when I bail out of a position because I hear 4 bombers and 2 trappers spawn and the team just stands there like sitting ducks and inevitably gets raped, cue "WHY DIDN'T YOU STAY WITH US?" whinging as I solo clutch because they could not possibly fathom clutching either
>looked at the zealot treeBruh, I was bumrushing with no brain on the wrong classes all along. Ok, it's sororitamaxing time.
>>498290385Melta is better anti armor than plasma
>>498290468>get picked up and now have to fight off the entire horde the zealot dragged alongI like how this all began with someone saying they wouldn't thank you for it. That's it. That's all it took to bruise your ego.
>>498290385literally the opposite, though. but you have a darktide secondary view of what plasma gun is supposed to be, soooo....
>>498290724what's funny is that I'm neither him nor do I play zealot. That's how obsessed with the reddit feindbild you are
>>498290468Imagine if you spent time doing something productive instead of writing fanfics to win an argument on anonymous imageboard?
>>498290468Story as old as time. The moment you stop literally babysitting them they all go down and blame you for not babysitting them anymore.
>play train>actually going good>electricity dies for sec secondthere musy be some cosmic rule that all train runs must be dogshit
>>498268391except its bugged and randomly doesnt give you the buff leading to instant death
I hate playing Ogryn so much.I have three penances left (taunt elites, 5k heavy hitter, 2.5k feel no pain. All about half done) and I can't get through one mission without feeling fucking exhausted with this dogshit class.No I'm not bad with Ogryn nor do I go down all the time, I just don't find any part of the class fun and don't understand why anyone prefers them.Forget the Penances, what do I need to do to have to do to have fun with with Ogryn?As much as I'd love to finish the challenges then never touch the piece of garbage again, there must be something I'm missing since so many seem to enjoy Ogryn.I have every penance with the other classes, I have the blueberry armor, and I have hundreds of hours between every class and weapon, and any time as Ogryn is wishing I was playing one of the other three.Where is the fun with Ogryn? And what does it do better than any other class?
>>498292262So stop playing it dumb fuck, no one is forcing you to.
>>498290332>Loose Cannon is the only charismatic VeteranThere's no way the others are worse. Now I gotta check them out on jewtube...
>>498292464No shit sherlock, aren't you just giving the hottest takes in the shopclick general?Please refer to the last line, and I hope you don't get overwhelmed with all those big words before you get there:>Where is the fun with Ogryn? And what does it do better than any other class?What do you, or preferably someone without a brain deficiency, do to have fun with Ogryn? What do others find fun with the class I may be overlooking?
>>498292667Are you mistaking it for something else?
>>498292667Cadian is a butthurt angsty rageboy and the Professional is the most boring blank you could possibly come up with
Do curios rating improve as you increase their colour? I know it doesn't matter but you know, it's cool..
Ogryn noob eating his way to get propa big here. Is shieldgryn good late game? I enjoy it so much but I don't wanna gimp myself by getting used to a useless playstyle. Seems lotsa people don't like shields?
>>498293373It's fine as long as you keep heavy attack spamming. TOOONKING is useless though unless you are getting attacks by a host.
What's up with people holding heavy attacks while running with the knife? Does it make you run faster or something?
>>498293650yeah
>>498293650it does, it also makes you giga cringe, there's no benefit to getting to the enemies faster
>>498293373It's a pretty good weapon and absolutely holds its own in the highest difficulties with the right blessings/build, Brutal Momentum+Skullcrusher allows you to beat the shit out of and stagger entire mixed hordes with ease all on your own. I personally don't enjoy it due to how much it limits Ogryn's already very limited mobility, but there's nothing wrong with using it as long as you aren't one of those retards who uses the shield plant special and thinks they're actually doing anything useful.
>>498292262The fun is being an immortal retard carrying your team.
>>498293801It nullifies gunner suppression, or at least the slowdown effect of gunner fire.
>>498292667Cutthroat actually has great delivery and great lines but it's a bit grating. It's like listening to an angry construction worker shouting at you.
>>498294220I mean people who do it at the start of a mission
>>498294379I don't know, the speed boost from the knife is noticeable unlike V2 weapon movement. Only the Handmaiden spear+shield had anything close to the Darktide knife, but even then its pretty slow.People like going fast regardless of the game, and (comparatively) zooming around is fun.
>>498293491>>498294089Thanks! Is there any better weapon you would recommend for a taunt/support build? Surely the increased damage debuff from the taunt skill tree is somewhat useful?
>Complete 50 Maelstrom missions +5>Defeat <map name> on Damnation +10make it make sense
>>498292262>Where is the fun with Ogryn? Getting stuck in. Shoving everything around. And not dying. A big advantage for the ogryn is the ability to casually interrupt ragers and maulers with pushes, or attacks on most weapons.I like to use a shield (or power maul) melee ogryn, bully everything while killing it. Or a gunlugger ogryn with shovel or pickaxe; good in melee and has flaming bullets to burn down elite swarms/monsters
>>498294834>supportThe best thing you or any class can do to "support" the team is kill elites, specials, hordes, and monsters faster.The best team is a team where every player can handle/has the tool for each situation/enemy, thereby supporting each other in every situation. The retards that say one class has a specific role is just projecting since they didnt bring something to handle the Crusher that pushed them into a corner.
>>498294823Yes but there is no benefit to getting to the enemies faster at the very beginning of a mission while the rest of your team lags behind, you just risk getting caught by something stupid and I've seen many zealots lose a large portion of their health at the very start that way
>>498294834Shield is fine for taunt build and yeah, debuffing all the enemies that you have taunted is a good talent. However you should be focused on killing everything yourself instead of "supporting" your team, the best support you can give them is by beating the shit out of the entire horde in front of you. Personally I just use the pickaxe for every Ogryn build because it crunches everything real good.
>>498293029After seeing some videos on the voicelines, this is true.I am sad. And disappointed.
>>498295341who cares man? why would you do everything for a "benefit"? how can you be so tryhard? it's fun
>>498295341The problem there is bad players, not necessarily going fast. A zealot being stupid is no different from a psyker or ogryn being stupid, its just in the way they go down.I've seen a veteran intentionally shoot the barrel next to them on that moebian steel mission on the catwalk at the beginning to stagger a crusher (and sending himself into the abyss), that doesn't mean vets or blowing up barrels is dumb.I'd say its more >"bad player does bad thing"That being said, I miss when the knife movement was less known since it at one point (quite a while ago) it was a sign of a good player.
Has anyone tested if experience curios boost weapon mastery gain?
I've been thinking about why I like shopclick so much and I came to the conclusion that it's because they're mostly rote memory and intuition based games that become really relaxing to play once you got the hang of it, with occasional oh shit moments. Plus there is some amount of build theory. This also made me realize that I like those shitty little vampire survivor games for the same reason. Basically what I'm saying is they need to add a survivor mode or roguelike mode to the game, would fit it perfectly
>>498282702>two nuln regiments vanished without a trace at pogger's bridge! Elf?! Elf!
>>498296652bro your chaos wastes?
>>498282957fem seerfem agitatormale fanaticmale loose cannonbrawler
A teammate shot a gunner with his bolt pistol and missed and hit the wall behind the gunner, making him stagger away which caused my bolt pistol shot to miss as well and stagger the gunner again with the explosion which made my teammates 2nd shot miss.
>>498296935they lost two pots of nuln oil?that's horrible
What's the consensus on tac axe? Does it hold out against current fotm like dueling sword? What's the best mark?
>>498297417They're pretty shit honestly. They are not even in the same universe as the dueling sword which is one of the best weapons in the game.
>>498297813Not him but what's so good about the dueling sword? It is too slow to kill hordes of trash which is my main use for melee.
>>498289634>we fight for the innocent!>for the lex atoma!>buzzing... buzzing...>no hope... no safety... only... peuargh...
>>498297972Insane mobility, insane armor pen, and it kills hordes just fine. You just have to play like a crackhead to get the most out of it, similar to the knife.
>>498298235Is the sword easier to get the hang of than the knife? I want to try it on vet. What ranged does it pair well with?
>>498297417They're good on Zealot. Not amazing, but good. Bad against monsters and mediocre against carapace, but otherwise good to great. The Mk II is the best mark, I think. Heavies for clear, light spam for single target. I think Crushers are the main thing you still want to use heavies against, but it's been a while. Do your own testing for that.>Does it hold out against current fotm like dueling sword? lolno. The Tac Axe has trade-offs that the dueling sword doesn't. Dueling Sword is good to amazing against everything.
Current S tier weapons:>Dueling Sword>Bolter>Plasma>Knife>RevolverI leave anything out? >people bitching about Dueling Sword balance when Bolter Vet breaks the game just as much, if not even harderlmao
>>498298780What's the bolter vet set up?
>>498298482>Heavies for clearDoes it need brutal momentum for that? Because heavies are marked as single target in stats.
>>498298421The sword and the knife are pretty much interchangeable weapons in my eyes, they do similar things and require similar amounts of effort to get the most out of them. Knife requires slightly more M1 spam and push attack/special attack+followup combos, dueling sword requires slightly more precise aim because you have to be poking heads to really kill stuff. Ranged weapon pairings are really just preference because the knife/dueling sword are like a safety net that can handle most situations themselves. I use the braced and infantry autoguns the most when I dueling sword Vet because they are similarly good all-rounders.
i miss when i sucked more. starting a mission, looking at my team, and picking the one other player that wasn't a total loser to stick to like glue and letting the rest of the team eat shit the moment they became inconvenient had such a nice element of storytelling to it.
>>498298780Bolt Pistol up there too. Pickaxe. Voidblast staff.
>>498298956Yeah, of course. Why would you ever run an axe without BM?>that one webm that used to get constantly posted for that one guy defending 1h axe in VT2
>carefully craft a build to make the Helbore lasgun viable and reach breakpoints by making sacrifices in skill points/nodes basically a mental gymnastic>a fucking zealot nigger one shot everthing with his revolver without giving a single fuck and a build probably copied form TelopotsI'm giving up on the Helbore pleae save me
>>498298887with surgical + pinning fire
>>498300716it's funny because telo is a darktide hipster
>>498299713I assumed it's specifically combat axes' shtick. Also is slaughter spree good? Or should I stick with shred / headtaker / decimator?
>>498300716If you're incapable of enjoying things if stronger and simpler alternatives exist, you better not check out the ogryn's damage output.
>>498300794>boltgun
>>498301194Is there a problem?
>>498300854Care to explain? I don't watch ecelebs
>>498300794>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>498298887This is mine. You could also run it with Exec and laugh maniacally while you turn things into red paste. WS isn't a bad keystone option to buff your melee if you wanna give some stuff up. It's kinda hard to fuck up a Bolter Vet build, honestly.With the talents I take, my Bolter looks like thisBlessings:>Puncture to help reach a couple breakpoints>Pinning firePerks:>Maniac (gets you 1-hit trapper body breakpoint, 1-hit head to both flamer and 2-body to ragers without having to wait long for bleed ticks ==> all with puncture and pinning fire)>Flak (3 hit mauler chest, 2 hit rager body, 1 hit shotgunner body with a stack or two of pinning fire)
>>498301372faggotpots doesn't make OP builds usually, he makes off-brand hipster builds and specifically avoids talents or blessings he thinks are OP
>>498300716Helbore is the best gun on VeteranThe only downside is it will actively give your carpal tunnel syndrome
>>498301703Why would you do that? why don't you want to be efficient?
>>498301503it's okay if you don't know
>>498300937I think Slaughter Spree is new, at least to tac axe. I haven't tried it. I just ran Headtaker/Shred+BM on mine. Whether HT or Shred is better, it's hard to say without autistically testing stuff. If I had to comment though, I think I'd probably prefer Shred to SS because of elites. Hordeclear maxing isn't that big of a deal compared to better elite damage.
>>498301841He and his fans have no-lifed the game for 1000s of hours into utter triviality and thus he constantly complains about all the power-creep in the game and tries to avoid what he considers OP in order to increase challenge. He's a nerftranny who wants everything fun in the game to be removed because after his 10,000th run it isn't challenging anymore, shockingly.
>>498294337oh no. herty werds. in my grim dark future! where is my safe space!?I wish they had someone do a Plummer voice JUST to honour the dude AND fuck with all you soft cunts. just gratuitous, over the top marines shittalking. constant chewing outs.
>>498297379don't make fun. I still am horrified of the day a pot of nuln oil defied the laws of physics to 'fall' UP into the air, do a fucking barrel roll / corkscrew / fucking stall turn...to go UNDER the table AROUND the whole fucking table.. to THEN turn upside down on my pantleg and dump its entire fucking contents. all because something ELSE somewhere ELSE on the table moved along the surface. nothing fucking touched it or the table to give it that momentum. it fucking comitted suicide on me.
What melee weapon do you use on vet when you invested 0 points in the right side of the tree?
>>498303171but how?tac reload and shit is on the right side.
>>498303171default shovel and catachan mk4 are my go-to
>>498303171Power SwordShovelCombat Axe
>>498303242volley adept on the left side
>>498298235>>498299452Is mobility also a dump stat on those, if one of their advantages is mobility? The knife is pretty short, is first target that useful on it?
>>498302367I'd rather the devs cater to 1000 hour players like me than to little faggots who havent learned how to play yet
>>498303491yes, and? you want both.
>>498254364I did end up finding the perfect knife in the shop.Now to let it sit in my inventory until I have Zealot leveled properly and have figured out how to play Stealth Zealot in the first place.
>>498304114You dump damage.
>>498303328>>498303439what about the knoife? doesn't need the melee attack speed boost
>>498304440knoife is probably the worst weapon to pick without melee talents
>>498304196What fuckin weapon do you use that you need so many reload speed shit
All weapons are usable on any difficulty.Yeah there are some loadouts that can't solo twelve crushers so easily, but if your team all chose shit weapons too and you wipe that's as much on them as it is on you.
>>498304440I dunno. I have like 700 hours in the game and still haven't run the knife in an actual game. For the longest time, my mouse macros didn't work for some reason (I will save my fingers, even if it earns me the "cheater" title), and now that they do work, I haven't gotten around to running it. It seems like something you'd really want all that crit and attack speed for.
>>498300794>sharing mediocre toughness with your teammates when you could be suppressing everything>taking +1 stam instead of +5% movement speed
>>498305421>sharing mediocre toughness with your teammates when you could be suppressing everythingHave you actually tried removing KTHD? It doesn't change anything. You still suppress shit just fine
>>498305421with how much toughness you recover from 10+ stacks of confirmed kill, it is not at all mediocre, besides boltgun already suppresses everything in a wide areastamina helps in melee which is where the build doesn't shine so you don't get your shit pushed in as hard, only time I'd pick 5% movement speed was to stack it with close and kill
>>498305770I would greatly appreciate that you keep out of my aurics, thanks.
>>498305946Okay, retard. Enjoy your wasted talent point
>>498305770I'm already not taking shout because I don't want to give my teammates anything, and if I could get out of taking Survivor I'd do that too. Fuck my teammates.>>498305916>only time I'd pick 5% movement speed was to stack it with close and kill>stack it with close and kill>close and kill:|
>>498305946>KTHD>for the boltgunholy shit you are truly retarded man
>>498305975>>498306201samefagging won't prove you right :)
>>498306116yes yes we get it you run survivalist/shout/specialist like every cookie cutter default build veteran out there and can't fathom a world outside your small little box, now let the adults talk
>>498306330I literally don't do that, faggot.
>it's another episode of some dumbass crying "samefag" when he gets called on saying something incredibly stupidThe perpetual summer is fun at times
>>498301841see>>498306330
>hmmm, should I take the node that renders all shooters stunlocked...>or should I share toughness regen with my team...>*swallows a heap of gungryn cum* oh yes daddy I am supporting you soooo hard *switches back to shout* I'll keep you safe big man
it's always some retard with a stupid retard opinion who gets told he's retarded then has a complete meltdown
>maybe if i post my lurid homosexual fantasies, they'll just call me gay instead of retardedgay retard
>>498306697made me actually laugh
Let me tell you about why smokes are the best veteran grenade
This would have NEVER happened with Vermintide...
>>498305421Bullshit.
>>498306812>he doesn't remember the constant transmaiden elftard meltdowns
>>498306812This. 40k kiddies are just low IQ uneducated school dropouts
>>498303328>default shovelMah nigga.
>>498306812>host picks bounty hunterit's owari da....
>>498306697kek
>>498304284I've seen that argument.Do you do that with all weapons or only with those with little base damage like the knoife?
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
which doomp stat for helbore?
>>498307467everythinguse something elseplease
>>498306812in vermintide that rat would have been atomized by 140 grains of lead with full spiritual and moral correctness
>>498307467Stability, duh
What weapons is Keep Their Heads Down even good on? I remember trying it out with the regular lasguns ages ago and noticing no fucking difference. Lots of other stuff doesn't need it.
>>498307515But I can shout... isn't that enough to win every match?
>>498307551Thanks now every time I miss a shot I will blame you...
>>498307467Charge
>>498307571the ones that shoot
>>498307571The slowest firing braced autogun is hilarious to use with that perk. Just fire 2-3 rounds into the general direction of the enemy and watch them shit themselves.
>>498307467i ended up with 10/10 for charge rate and stability and that feels fine
What's your favorite weapon atm? what weapon makes you release dopamine? tell me your waifu NOW and be JUDGED won't judge you because you're having FUN
>>498307315>little damage>knifeYou dump damage because you don't need more damage on the knife. It already does insane damage at 60%
>>498306697>reddit space
>>498308165Two-handed axe on Ironbreaker
>>498308165It's a very underrated gem, imo, a weapon not a lot of people know about.Yes, that's right, it's the dueling sword.
>>498281324take cheat death, restoring faith, shield of contempt. sit at one wound the whole game. you are safe cause you have cheat death. restoring faith will heal chip damage. shield of contempt will save you from ambushes from say, multiple gunners hiding in a corner.
>>498308165Crusher because bonking is satisfying. knife because it's the only weapon that actually forces me to use push attacks in melee
>>498307046this is a 10/10 in skavenblight
>take krak grenade because my weapons are not so good for dealign with crushers>everytime I throw one the crusher gets deleted by the rest of the team anyway
>>498308843at least you can clear hordes of 21st with kraksoh wait
>>498308843Everytime I hear a vet throwing a krak grenade I focus his target to emphasize how truly useless this guy is.
does disrupt destiny not fucking work in the testing arena? I have no idea what enemies are marked and I don't see to be getting any stacks.
>>498298780Knife is high A tier. So is Revolver.
>>498308843kraks are redundant most of the time. just too slow and everyone has ways to deal with armor in auric.
>>498281324It's pretty good and nets you the highest damage on Zealot, but you have to be very comfortable with melee combat. Any small mistake and you're useless. Abuse Until Death
>>498307467Ammo. Assuming you're taking shock trooper you shouldn't really have any problems with ammo at all.
What melee weapons has the most funny ragdolls? I want retard fun no matter if it's not meta
>>498308843then dont throw it and let people eat shit
>>498309936phew I almost sacrificed my 60 ammo helbore
>>498309098Serious, why did they remove that modifier from the game? Fatshart should've just make it random like the rest instead being always available like it was during the event.
Of course the krak grenade is shit if you constantlyuse it on lone crushers that will get skullfucked by the team. Save it for bosses and packs of crushers, retards.
>>498310253their armor looks gay
>>498310313>pack of crushers>throw it at a crusher in the back>team focuses that crusher because they think that kraks are a damage buff and you marked it for death or something
>>498308219>>little damage>>knifeIt's like 55 on the light attack. It does crazy damage because of all the bonuses on top of that base damage, but the base damage is low.
>>498308843Kraks are insurance. If you don't need them then great it's going smoothly, they'll always be very good for pacifying bosses. But if you run into a game where you're shit at fighting armor/bosses you'll be glad you packed them. In Auric Maelstrom though there is so much shit to fight that you'll always have viable targets for kraks.
>>498310692Saar, finesse weapon. Saar, you have to hit the heads!
>>498311232That's what I said.
>>498304612any and all of them. time reloading is time NOT spent shooting or hacking. and that is heresy.my guy does some operator tier operating operationally tactical reloadings lightning fast.
the truelevel and scoreboard mod should be banned
>>498304612also>do you even john wick?
>veteran is the best melee dps>gunpsyker is the best ranged dps>zealot suckscool
>>498310692>but the base damage is lowWhich means a 20% damage increase is like 11 more damage. Basically fuck all. That's why you dump damage.
What the hell is this challenge, this sucks!
>>498308843sometimes a krak is the best way to deal with well placed reaper in the distance shredding everyone
>>498311609>t. every shitter
>>498308165The eviscerator with the fun moveset.
>>498312496oh the MkII, the best eviscerator?
If you use the Peril on Reload, everything that gives you advantages at high peril, warp siphon, you can max out your peril only by reloading, and vent extremely quickly (dont do this)
how the fuck do I kill maulers and ogryns from range as a psyker? brain burst takes fucking forever to charge and requires 2 hits to kill, just go full crit on voidstrike and hope it crits?
>>498313201what the fuck nigga unlocked dragon's breath rounds i want to try this
>>498313280I run up to them and spam Heavy on my Deimos or Duel SwordOtherwise yeah, Voidstrike with Surge, Surge Staff to keep them paralyzed or dance around with while spamming M1 with Purgatus staff with Blaze away + Penetrating Flame
>>498313280>he doesn't run empowered psionics
>>498311917>pick the gimp class>dress as a gimp>be mad that you are just a gimphow come?
>>498311609why lmao
>>498294337He has great lines other than the muh cadia shit but for whatever reason they're really rare and you get to hear him crying and pissing about never trusting anyone and MY WORLD for the 3 thousandth time.
>>498311609no, i want people to see how hard i forced them to carry meif they're good people, they'll smile and be proud of themselves and they deserve itif they're bad people they'll seethe and shit and cry, and they deserve it
>>498273719vermintide's visuals are a total RNGfest - you can load into a level in the chaos wastes and it'll look glorious with the purple hue of Slaneesh bathing evrything in color, and then you step into a ruined fort that's so ugly it'll look like a rookie modder gave up halfway
>>498313358he just told you not to, because it is not going to work
>>498259636He probably thinks its Incase who used to make a lot of really great stuff but started to lean into futa later on and became known for that instead. Incase has never done any warhammer stuff, to my knowledge.This is actually just by someone who's copying Incase's style.
disrupt destiny voidstrike, my be-loved!
doing the smoke bomb and infiltrate vet penances make me feel like I'm actively working against my team
>>498273719>dwarf faggotnot reading this post
>>498315000ok but what's the sauceit's not on r34
Where is everybody?
>>498316117Smoke does indeed suck ass.
>>498316117>>498316354skill issue
>>498316203it's a self admitted incase copycat who also draws futanaris pounding femboysbut the image is in fact of vanilla impregnation by kruber of kerillian, and that's all you're getting from me
>>498316476You know what's better than enemies kinda sorta not being able to see you? Enemies being dead.
>>498316203There's a perpetual warhammer 34 thread over in /aco/ too, most art like this ends up there as it comes out.
>>498316939is it actual art or AI spam like most of the porn boards these days
>>498316531dont be stingy with the sauce, help a brother out
>>498317175I almost wish there were a good AI model for churning out Warhammer art, I'd probably generate so much Sefoni fanart with Stable Diffusion if so.Anyway no, I don't think I've ever seen AI art there.
>the fan now has collision and kills youwhy did they do it
>>498316324I hate it when the matchmaker does that, specially when I'm asking for quickplay.
Why can't the helbore be good?
>>498317851Cuz it's funny and makes sense. A couple months ago I was playing that mission at that part, HISTG Damnation, team was struggling as they often do there. Nearly completed all the objectives, just had to hit the two buttons to turn off the fan, but then me and another guy both got grabbed by mutants in front of the fan, and they BOTH threw us directly into the blades and mulched us. We lost after that but I couldn't help but laugh.
>>498317851The giant fan on the sandy map? That always killed you on contact.
When are they gonna make new maps?
>>498318597>new maps
>play a regular damnation mission to test a build>not auric, not hi-int or shockfelt empty and lifeless
>>498318597For Vermintide 2? Give it a couple months.
>>498318837For darktide...
>>498318902best I can do is an "event" with plasteel/diamantine rewards
>>498318830Yeah, once you're used to it playing a non Hi-Int mission just feels like autopilot. I can't believe there are people out there who intentionally choose to play Low-Int missions as well.
>favorite vt2 map>favorite dt mapgo
>>498317852it forces ranged enemies to run into melee, it's fine
>>498319164Why can't we at least have mapmaking tools so the community does all the work (for free) and the devs steal it?
>>498319347Convocation of DecayHab Dreyko
>ironbreaker with a shield weaponAhhhhhhhhhhhhjhhjj
>>498319347Into The NestArchivum Sycorax
>>498319804This is why they removed scoreboards btw
>>498319416making map tools would be immeasurably complex
>>498273719The metal, fur and lighting in VT1 looks better than VT2. The game is also more demanding but who knows how much that could be optimized if the game got some updates.
>>498320112Then make more maps themselves. Someone's gotta do it.
my schizo theory is that they have the admech skitarii class ready to drop, but can't reconcile it with the lore because the players are imperial prisoners but the admech are kind of separate and would handle their issues internally rather than give them to imperial prison ships, so they refuse to release the class.
>>498321107well that's retarded, thanks for sharing retard
>>498321107You need meds.
>>498318597best you'll get is 1/10th of a mission and it will be a timed train mission.
>>498321107the real schizo part is you believing fatshark did work
>>498321107
>>498321107my schizo theory is that they're a small development studio with a lazy work ethic and have convinced themselves internally that playercounts won't change even if the game gets more content at a rapid pace, so they call it good enough and work at a relaxing pace
>>498321286>Spinning Iron>it's the same train map but you land at the front, set a bomb, and run to a timed extraction at the back
>>498320241Did VT1 release on console?
>>498317851So they could add a penance that requires you to blend 10 trashmobs with it
>>498319804needs drakegun for optimal build
>>498318597The latest derptide news post implies there's a new map coming up with a heretic counteroffensive, we will certainly get more news in 2 more weeks.
>>498322028>>498321107both wrong, the reality is that they were doing the xbox port since launch, and have been doing the PS5 port since that. These things are dev intensiveCall it cope if you want but it's the exact same pattern VT2 showed: absolute dead development during the port, and then updates actually came out at a decent pace + were substantial (such as chaos wastes) You could spin that as a positive about fartshart development, at least you can look forward to content in 2-3 years time since it's likely they'll handle it like VT2
>>498321107It takes a genuine kind of retard to think that an admech servitor is somehow less lore friendly than a fucking unsanctioned psyker running around lmaoBut I do genuinely see this repeated all the time so pic related applies.
Are inventories shared between characters?
a youslop video told me that the spearhead boltgun is now better than the revolver. What perks and blessings do I put on this thing?
>>498325795not in darktide, charms etc are shared in vt2
>>498326056Probably brittleness and bleed. I'm not sure if Pinning Fire is still any good.If you're on a vet drop the brittleness, if you're on a zealot you can drop the bleed, but it depends what your melee option is, really.
>>498326056aiming it is cringe. pinning fire and puncture will 2 shot anything below an ogryn
>Only play vet because it's a fun class>Branch out and no other class gets bullshit like free grenades, free ammo or easy gold toughness spamWhat the fuck, vets are privileged.
>>498327871ogryn and zealot mostly get infinite toughness and sometimes health but its not as cool because vet gets le toughness shouthopefully they nerf voice of command's toughness or remove it entirely
>>498327871And then vetbabies have the fucking audacity to complain about other classes.
>>498328157Don't forget that psyker also gets infinite toughness from soulstealer and peril quelling. It's really OP how psykers can just regenerate toughness quickly. Veteran should be the only one who has access to toughness regen
>make it a point to max at least 1 weapon every day a week after the patch came out>had to make a new build to "make a weapon work">have to use a different class if a weapon feels like assthis was a good patch because its given me incentive to try new stuff>>498326056both the bolt pistol and bolter are better than the revolver>on vetthe 25% swap speed + the new animation changes from a couple of patches ago make it less of a dedicated shoot n stab guni also feel like the character gives no fucks when getting shot at, as the gun is on target where the lasgun wouldnt be when getting shot1st shot is always great accuracyand the bolt pistol first shot has damn near perfect accuracyBolter with mark target can 1hko a ragerliterally the only reason you would need a blessing like brittleness or bleed is for killing bosses, which is fine because Im not sure what the bolter even struggles with nowalso>exploding shoton pistol is pretty fucking godly, its like a baby shout whenever you whip out the pistol and knock everything on its ass
>>498328446nah everyone needs toughness for something>psykerbecause you need to have that staff or blitz out all the time>vetbecause youre standing in the opening shooting shooters so you need to duel them on the regular>zealotbecause youre taking risks so you need to stay topped off, its more a low toughness bar so you can keep taking that first hit but still regening it to stay at 0% damage taken>ogrynto make up for atrocious evades
>>498328457>the 25% swap speed + the new animation changes from a couple of patches ago make it less of a dedicated shoot guntypo
>>498327871Even vet is all that fun...
>>498328157>but its not as cool because vet gets le toughness shoutIf every class could access shout then there wouldn't be any reason to use anything other than shout. Every zealot, psyker and ogryn would be running shout over their own abilities. Shout is the de facto strongest ability in the game.Give vet the abilities of other classes and everyone would still be running shout.
>>498328932team sucking is the strongest handicap in the gamei genuinely "need" stealth if i have a bad feeling about>repair>raid>manning the minigames
>>498312131I'm told it was changed at some point but I can't corroborate since I wasn't playing when it was added, seems like it only tracks burning DoT kills now. Been at it for a while and only around 1500.
>>498328932>zealot with 200% cdr shoutJesus fucking Christ.
>>498328932It's a shame because none of the shout voice lines are as cool asBY TAAL FIGHT KILL DEATH
>>498316324my beloved said i had to take a long messy shit
>>498328457>killing bossesThat's pretty much where a lot of weapon blessings are shining now for the meta weapons.I'm too lazy to test without the loadout config mod after the last patch but I found that the breakpoints were pretty hard to squeeze more efficiency out of how it just works out of the box.Its a good thing I guess since it means blessings can just go to personal preference instead of whatever is hyper efficient.
>>498329632It's surely broken, it barely goes up.
>>498308165The bolter>>498312496I wish the Eviscerators we got were long and actually had fucking hilts. What is it with Fatshit and not understanding how to make stuff look cool?>ugly characters>ugly skins>lame weaponsHow
>>498331167It's honestly gotten pretty ridiculous. A lot of builds on various classes can solo a boss in no time at all, and when more than one person is using them bosses are deleted almost instantly. It takes the pressure out of intense situations in an un-fun way when a Chaos Spawn or Plogryn gets melted in the first 30 seconds its on screen IMO.
>>498236057Does anyone have the old gif/webm of the elf doing 1 point of friendly fire to the Saltz player (who is recording the video) who then turns around and blows her away with his ult
>>498331770I don't disagree, I'd rather the game's pacing go back to release balance where everything was a challenge above heresy and even meme builds had to stop and work together.
>>498331531Not just the hilts, where are the eviscerator skins? Not just "here's the same evis but in red" I want eviscerators that look like claymores, or look like flaming construction equipment or like holy artifacts, like in a lot of the art and minis.
The game is too easy with even mildly decent teammates.
why did approximately 100 assassins spawn at once in my vt2 horn of magnus game?
>>498308165thammer. I like gorilla smashing everything with it and the sweep is good enough for clearing trash
>>498333217Someone touched the gutter runner stash. It's attached to a map challenge for surviving it. Also useful for completing any challenge that requires specials
>>498308165Mk I sapper shovel
>>498318382no it didn't, you could run through it while it was spinning before the penance rework
>all of my operatives rolled the "complete 8 missions" melk contractI guess I'm playing darktide all week
>>498335563Not like milkbux are that important these days
>>498308165>>498333626Although I can appreciate the utility in the Crucis having an overhead powered heavy now, I've come to sorely miss the sheer look, feel and impact of the sideways powered heavies.I'd even become pretty good at twisting my camera before the swing in dense situations so that it hit what was previously in front of me.Still my favorite, though. Even with a bit of its sovl ripped out.
>>498336651That looks like shit, why are you complaining that they fixed it you stupid ratfucker
>>498336797You wouldn't get it.
uh oh butthurt ratnigger falseflag melty
>>498319804these scoreboards are just guys latejoining
>>498336985no, no one got it except the morons who convinced themselves they should be useful 5% of the time (which is to say, when bosses appear or they felt the need to show everyone how they could gib a host, to no one's surprise)the weapon not sucking is a blessing
>>498335825The numbers MUST go up.
crucis is just a combat axe without brutal momentum
>>498337329im really digging finesse plus poweri might not swing fast, but once things get going its just fast enough, and the occasional rager that runs up while im full tilt just gets fucking bodied in 1-2 hits
WHAT do i put on my 80/80/61/80/80 Voidstrike Staff to go with headshot quelling?>reduced charge-up time on chainedor>crit chance plus 5%, crits shoot twice
>>498337716reduced charge time is less peril since you spend less time building peril charging
>>498300716the revolver and knife need to be removed from the game
>>498337981what if they renamed knife to power knife
>>498337121It used to be finnicky, but it didn't suck ever since they first buffed the headshot modifiers and armor pierce values.By just normally weaving in dodges, the uptime on duellist talent + headtaker + varying amounts of thrust was enough to clear hordes.Stagger talents were and still are enough to lock down ragers in a mixed horde.Powered heavies were hard to use, but perfectly usable against the taller ogryn foes even in a dense horde.If you thought anything else, you were bad with the weapon.It's definitely miles better now, but at a cost to style.
>>498336985Where do you work out?
>>498312131Swedish ingenuity strikes again.>Burn enemies using Immolation GrenadeEveryone would be forgiven for assuming it just meant light them on fire since they visually catch on fire after a second or two of standing in the grenade. The actual penances is enemies need to DIE from Immolation Grenade. So you basically have to beg your team mates to not to kill hordes. Zealot has the absolute most tedious and retarded penances of the classes and it's not even close.
if i posted my recon lasgun build would you guys critique or perhaps make fun of meits for vet
>>498338728yes
Do you basically need to finish all of the penances for the blue gear at 4.5k?
>>498339130No. Not even close.
>>498339197Okay. That would make sense considering how bad some of the bluegear fellas I've seen are.
>>498337716I use warp flurry for reduced charge time + venting shriek if I fuck up t. heresylet
>>498338779https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3d5bb8-175a-4e7d-b989-5816064d50b0/test-44
>>4983377165% CRT chance Carapace or Unyielding damageSurge Warp Nexus, Transfer Peril or Warp Flurry
I have tried Rolling Steel nearly a dozen times and have lost every single time
>>498339454replace Headhunter with dum dum on your recon lasgun it actually boost the dot dmgI liek bloodletter on my chaisword but it's up to you>skipping comfirmed killstop that>opening salvouseless o na recon lasgun>rending strikeuseless>focus targetuseless o nyour build, I'd go for a no keystone build and reach for at least Reciprocity
I want a playable Ruststalker, I don't care if it doesn't fit in.
>>498339653you could always try posting a lobby, when the mission came out the first time I completed it was with anons from here
>>498339958I just spam quickplay for the bonuses, everytime that one comes up we fail no matter what difficulty
>>498339798after playing with this a bunch my main gripe is that it sucks against crusher packs and bossesthe reason i use rending is because it makes the recon lasgun go through crusher armor without having to track head, i took volley instead of confirmed because it's like a permanent 30% reload but i guess you never need the reload on the brrrt is longshot necessary?i use focus target because the lasgun shreds anything smaller than an ogryn so fast that you're permanently at 8 stacks of redirect fire
>>498339931You’d just be zealot but beep boop flavored
>>498338484>If you thought anything else, you were bad with the weapon.or more like"coming from +cleave in vermintide, this thing feels like dogshit"which is factual even before you factor in the attack speed on crit shit
>>498339454This is the build I use with the recon lasgun and I absolutly wreck shit with it it's just easy modeDon't sleep on the MkXIV (the slow firing one) because it has cleave and you often end up killing specials far away by mistake just because you were unloading into a hordefor dealing with crusher I use the Duelling sword to 2 shot them 3shot becasue I use the MkV becasue it has a cool moveset
>>498340308I mean, ideally we would get a Skitarii class but unlike ratclick, shopclick doesn't have unique character models for subclasses.>Skitarii Ranger for gunplay focus, probably specifically on long range, high damage but low fire rate rifles>Ruststalkers for melee focus>Inflirtrator for a weird mix of both including a new mechanic for having both melee and gun out at once provided they're both one handed, can't block or aim but you can shoot mid swing>Alternatively Vanguard for generic tanky build
True chads want a ratling class (female locked)
>>498341643Just give me something that isn't just fartshart getting the game out of a de facto early access state.
>>498340639My recon lasgun is like this but i get a bunch of stuff at the middle and top.
I am beyond thy reckoning, Slab.
Do you guys even use the regular lasgun? I mean come on it's the poster weapon of the IG
>>498342062it looks and feels like shiteven when it was le meta I never touched it more than once
>>498342062I genuinely forgot it existed for a while.
>>498328157Nerftranny gets the rope.
>>498342062Dakka has thoroughly asserted its dominance (honorary mention to recon las).
>>498342062Isn't that gyu supposed to look way more fucked up? because he's probably only eating shitty corpse starch with no nutrition, he's supposed to look like a crackhead like in Darktide. How come he doesn't?
>3 beasts of nurgle on a malice mission with no modifiersI'm not too familiar with the AI director but I was under the impression they only really spawn 1 monstrosity per level
>>498342062I kind of like it.Really I like the helbore but that's almost inviable, the infantry lasgun is the stand in.
>>498342841ACK!
Can I edit keybinds on darktide with either console config editing? I want to have multiple buttons for the same thing or have stuff happen on hold instead of on click.Also specific keybinds of the more common emotes would be nice too. I remember doing that way back in Killing Floor 1.
>>498313358I've tried a bunch of builds with peril reload and shriek. I dont think you need creeping flames, the fire doesnt actually do much damage, even with the other 2 fire talents. Warp Splitting is 100% cleave scaling with peril and that felt betteralso loading special ammo with the combat shotguns doesnt generate peril
>>498342062I ran a game with it earlier. It was okay. Green version with Marksman's Focus is how I run it. I wanted to run the blue one, but there's too much recoil to really capitalize on its fire rate.
>>498343547>What's up boys? RealAsianRobot here
>>498343547he's the chosen one
>>498343547>I'm John Fatshark, and I approve this talent build
he's tanking and I'm healingthe dps need to step it up
>>498331859dead general
>>498342447>nooo my crutch y-you're a trannysorry kid victories must be deserved
>>498343547legitimately a good Vet build
I didn't post it as a joke. That's the vet build I've been using for like 40+ hours. I took most of the things that help my team mates because I like buffing the team.My favorite weapons so far are the infantry lasgun to shoot far away snipers or gunners, and the standard issue shovel because I'm just a guardsman and wouldn't have a power sword or expensive fancy weapon like that.
is this worth diggin to get it? someone told me that base dmg is actually doodoo but I don't see why
>>498345670Attack elites with your preferred weapon with and without that in the meat grinder, if it saves you a hit, it might be worth it
>>498345670It's worth it if it pushes you over a breakpoint that you care about. It isn't if it doesn't.
crucisflamerfury of the faithfulyeah, it's time to praise the emperor
>>498308165>favorite weaponDo the skeletons count? I enjoy watching the calcium crew curb stomp elites.
>>498346324*yawn*
>>498298780If you want to count ogryn weapons, then shield as well, I find it even more busted than the pickaxe.>infinite amounts of cleave, and the highest stagger in the game>also decent damage>makes mixed hordes of literally any size a total joke
I've been fasting from ratclick in preparation for GeheimnisnachtWHERE IS IT
>>498343547The funny part is that this is unironically a very viable build with 99% of what makes vet strong
Thoughts on Trench Fighter Drill vs Skirmisher for the purposes of getting to Weapon Specialist?
sprinting and sliding was a mistake
>>498347240I enjoy the slip n slide layer
I'M KNOOOOOIFINNNNNNNG
>>498312131>He thinks this penance takes forever/sucksHahahayou have no idea, man.
>/copeg/ thinks knife is badHUAH HUAH HOAH HOUAH HUAH HUAH HUAH HAUH HOH HOUAH HAUOH HAH
>>498339130>>498339287they just added like 500 points worth of penances with the crafting update so the blueberry armor means nothing now
i like how every weapon you can pick at this point makes you busted overpowered
>>498347940>posts a webm of maul-tier crowd control
>>498348773Helbore lasgun.
>>498347940is this a joke? took you 30 seconds to fumble a small horde... and you barely killed any of them.
>>498349094Gonna have to ask you to stop doing a racism towards knife players, okay? Okay.
>>498347940I really don't understand the point of this loadout, even for speedrunning at least take a flamer in the secondary for the hordes
>>498347940>spic is still posting this 2 years laterfuckin kek, welcome back tourist
>>498349748knifeoid meltdown
>decide to finally level a 2nd class, make it vetso uhh, do I just get zero fun ranged weapons until 11 when I unlock recon las? also why the fuck did they change the smelter complex finale, the valve part felt completely unnecessary.
>>498350456The infantry autogun is unlocked by default.
>>498350456They don't like when players find an easy answer to their big event arena, like with the end of the Carnival mission where you used to be able to turtle in the entrance hallway.
>>498347940Don't listen to those retards. They don't know KILLING POWER when they see it.
I'm ready for hallonween
Should I make a fifth character just to get more Melk Milk
>>4983504563/4 of those weapons are fun and the Vraks (formerly Columnus) IAG makes the recon lasgun look like a joke
>>498340639When you get tired of the meme rapier to deal with CRUSHERS, grab onslaught and let your gun do everything by itself.
>>498342062just maxed it out>2 shot gunners>2 shot snipers>5 shot ragers, both flavors>4 shot reapers in the facethe high ROF one has way too much climb at max RoF but the mid range one has just enough fire rate/power to have pretty clean performanceits got great hipfire for retreating situations toothe mid range one and high RoF one also have pretty good fire rate/damage balance for doing solid damage to bosses tooall around feels nicewould NOT do something tedious like>brittleness stacks>headshot maxingthough, liked it more than i thought i wouldbefore this patch i was all>knifer riflebut now certain guns feel greatwell, all guns feel pretty great except stub hipfire revolver
>>498344781for some reason ogryn players pick ogryn just to panic and hide behind a shieldwhen its the one class that kinda starts dying the second you arent near enemies
>>498343492>creeping flamesI suspect it's there just to take advantage of souldrinker.
>>498352217>except stub hipfire revolverFemale energy post
>>498346487>skeleton gangim more a fan of boner brigade>>498347230unironically try skirmisher in the meatgrinderi feel like its SUPER tedious to use as most of the time in pitched combat ill be spamming side dodge (the ol vermintide figure 8)also the 10% combines with the weap spec 15% for some nice attack speed
>>498351398nta but i think the killing power is goodits just that>you need to minmax crit/weakpoint on vetOR>commit to minmaxing backstabs, and actually using backstab to fuck up snipers, maulers, reapers, bulwarks, crushers, etc>>498352472i should say I do like whipping out the OG one and the singular bullet loads are>better for vet shenanigans>completely circumvented by 2x vet reload shenanigans>proc vet and zealot stuff more consistently>can 1hko ragers with the mark target thingI just dont like the hammer fan one, feels oof
I hate star wars-esque pew pew lasguns that are functionally identical to real guns while sounding gayer and having no weightThe only times lasers are satisfying weapons in video games are when they either have you charge up for a large boom or a constant beam that you use to bisect enemies.
>>498352783KILLING POWER was an old ratclick meme. I can't find it right now though. It was Saltz taking an eternity to clear a simple horde with the 1H Axe.
>>498353051
>>498353163>keeping singular slaves at bay with shoveso what, can i assume OG anon here was actually posting this to show mastery of the game?Its frighteningly similar to some fresh 30's in my games
>>498345503>general purpose, ammo efficient lasgun>stagger-heavy shovel compensates for the lack of melee talents>self-replicating kraks for the hard targets>voice of commandVeteran just works.
I can’t believe how badly my team flopped! It was an absolute DISASTER, and I’m just so fed up with everyone. First off, the weapon choices were completely off the mark. Who thought it was a good idea to bring a bunch of short-range weapons when we were clearly facing hordes of enemies? It felt like we were just begging to get overwhelmed! Instead of working together and picking gear that actually made sense, we ended up with a chaotic mix that made everything ten times harder. I’m SO done with this game. I can never get a good team!And don’t even get me started on the Ogryn! He was supposed to be babysitting the Psyker, but instead, he was off doing his own thing, leaving our poor spellcaster to fend for himself. It’s like nobody on the team was paying attention to their roles! The Psyker was struggling to stay alive while the Ogryn was nowhere to be found, trying to get kills instead of protecting the team. If everyone had just done their part and followed the plan, we might have actually stood a chance. Seriously, I can’t take this anymore!
>>498347940>getting pushed back by a homogeneous groaner hordegrim
>>498347940>posting 2 year old balance as if it means anything for the current state of the gamelolas a sidenote it's crazy. This seems to be malice and it's still way more dense than high int damnation today. Consoles cucked this game
>>498353473What if you used the group finder to filter the ogryns, psykers and xbots?
>>498289172Infiltrate is definitely worse than Zealot Stealth. If you take the backstab + crit ability regen nodes you can have zealot stealth up basically all the time.
>>498355932I like infiltrate for doing objectives and playing rambo. You can always have one in the reserve so you can use it aggressively without worrying about a get out of jail free cardObviously it doesn't compare to yell but then again nothing does
>>498355582>This seems to be malicetheres people reporting higher spawns on diff 2 of 4 in space marine 2considering youre saying that for diff 3 of 5 in this gameI can only assume the common denominator>people REALLY suck at the game and youre dealing with what happens when theres 3 incompetent people on the team who cant thin shit
>>498356001yeah levelling infiltrate is fun as fuck with braced auto gunI just brap ragers dead with my gun, and backstab chunky boys before i turn and feed a knife to a sniper
>>498356316i had a dyslexia moment, but yeah infiltrate totally compensates for long ass reloads
>>498356201not him but no, they purposefully reduced the amount of poxwalkers with the console release which that webm predates
>>498356201>theres people reporting higher spawns on diff 2 of 4 in space marine 2That's a load of bullshit. If there's any inkling of truth to that it is because SM2's power scaling is skewed towards giving you 80% of your firepower right at the very end, so they don't notice the spawns on D4 because they're all being vaporized nearly as fast as they can spawn by players with gold weapons and high level perks.
>>498357813>so they don't notice the spawns on D4 because they're all being vaporized nearly as fast as they can spawn by players with gold weapons and high level perks.Im just saying alot of people like to spam roll instead of fightwell that and they nerfed the fuck out of enemy spawns
>>498356201I guarantee you if you queue malice today you couldn't mass up that amount of poxies if you tried. Probably not in damnation either
>>498358052well the moebian 51st comes with such tenacity I feel like im playing vermintidebut ill give it a shot
>>498357907FWIW, I haven't played since the balance patch a week or so ago. The game doesn't even sound fun anymore. It's like they listened too hard to the carebear divers and nerfed the enemies into pathetic jokes. How the fuck do you even die if minoris parries regen armor? So I guess there's a chance that they did fuckup the enemy spawns, but people were claiming that D2 would spawn more shit even before that patch and they were all wrong then. The only real difference is that in D2, the average player there doesn't have shit like tactical marines having infinite grenade launcher grenades or bulwarks exploding damage in an AOE like a grenade with every single parry.
>>498358193>The game doesn't even sound fun anymore. It's like they listened too hard to the carebear divers and nerfed the enemies into pathetic jokesright, they did so many nerfs to damage taken all at the same time>armor regain techniques>enemy spanws>enemy attacksits just too much
We'll never get a new class
>>498358495>>498358193fags who constantly screech to make the game easier ruin each and every one of them. The worst part is, when devs add a higher difficulty to then appease the original gamers who want hard content they'll just swap to it and then whinge that THIS is too hard
>>498358743ill settle for new branchesmaybe an unholy way to grind for +points to intensify our current nodes
Ratlings
>>498359091No, the current build limitations are actually interesting and well thought out. more points would ruin the entire systemNew branches would also kinda suck. I just want more classes. I would've preferred VT2 careers even
>>498358743We'll probably get one or two. But I assume that we won't get more than two for the whole lifecycle of the game. Too work for lazy swedes.
>>498358743>>498359091>>498359856fartshart can't even make new weapons and you hope for a new class?
>>498360385one at best, this is nu fatsharkthen Vermintide III: the Age of Sigmar with 5 new heroes (2 of them are black)
>>498358052>Probably not in damnation eitherNot even on hi-int / auric. Those modes only seem like the have denser crowds because the game swarms you with special and elites, so nobody has time to deal with basic mooks and thus it feels like they are more numerous.
>>498360414they defacto made two new classes for each character it's just implemented differently. I'm sure we'll get more
mutants are the lowest skill nigger mechanic in auric. theres no dodging the fuckers, they phase through enemy hordes and they lock onto you and fuck up your position. its not even hard if you dont have a team of niggers that are allergic to dealing damage, it's just a way to ensure that you cannot carry a dogshit team.
>>498360792whens the last time you had fun playing this game anon
>>498360792>there's no dodging the fuckersyou can dodge them fine, helps to slide
>>498360792...what?
>>498358750I hate the ones that act like it's a fucking warcrime to nerf grossly over-performing weapons. No you can't just fucking buff everything to it's level. That would make balance even fucking worse. It's like balancing 101. The more shit that you change at once the more likely that you're going to break something else.
>>498359856>No, the current build limitations are actually interesting and well thought out.yeah but a sufficiently higher difficulty could call for an escalation to the violence>>498358052I think its down to a couple of things>people are not being bogged down again, so theyre doing that thing where they run really far ahead and keep spawning more shit accidentally>ogryns being useless in every way, right down to using their charge for no reason to make everything harder for everybodyAnd this is a hypothesis but>whereas arrowhead balanced their game around diff 4-5FS did alot of tuning to the "oh you killed x fast let me spawn 10 more of itlike we're down on the fucking bloodbowl linebacker mutant supreme in 4-5-auric+, but the trickles feel off in malicenot surebut I do think it's easier if you have a solid "do all the objectives without assistance" build
>>498361241>>498361241>>498361241>>498361241>>498361241MIGRATE
>>498360508>with 5 new heroesThere is no way they wouldn't transfer U5 into AoS. Going for AoS is already enough bad press but getting rid of U5 would be an end of Vermintide.
>>498360792>complaining about mutants>a special that will LET YOU GO if he catches youbruh.
>>498360792mutant is designed to be disruptive if you don't kill him, sounds like the special design is doing its job properly
>>498360964you cant dodge 5 at once
>>498361743you unironically can with a long slide
>>498360792>this is the average /coopg/ersuch a retarded post it's spicbate
>>498336651yea. being able to swing through a horde and hit the elite in the middle of it was nice.and then they would ragdoll fly sideways into the wall
reminder that the scoreboard mod makes people play better
>>498342062great during beta... I kinda miss it.
>>498361325*tosses you into a mixed horde/fire/gas
>>498351209Wait. What did they decide to do about entrance turtling? That map finale was cancerous if you left the entrance
>>498370367made a dropdown from the entrancepeople turtle in one of the other alcoves now
>>498343547I hate that this unironically works incredibly well.
