Human Ressources EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>498361241This general is for cooperative games, titles which need more than one player and requires them to work together to win. Examples include: Vermintide, Darktide, Deep Rock Galactic, Helldivers ect.>Latest News/Updates:Darktide: Hotfix #48 (1.5.1) Patch Noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4653997209644504997Vermintide 2:Lore Post: Skaven Chronicles part 1https://steamcommunity.com/games/552500/announcements/detail/4574056414664507550?snr=2___Helldivers 2:Patch 1.001.102https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___Wartracker:https://helldivers.io/Info:https://divers.ggDeep Rock Galactic:https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749Payday 3:https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/Remnant 2:The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___Earth Defense Force 6https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2Left 4 Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFOThe Forever Winter>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBABuild planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
new class soon friendsany day now
>>498514408
>>498514408every three months!
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
https://youtu.be/ifaoKZfQpdA
>>498514127Eviscerator seems better on paper but being able to throw an entire group of ragers around like they're poxwalkers makes the crusher way more fun.
I'm free
good morning i hate swedes
>>498515834to be fair that was a shit usage of frag bomb regardless of Swedish fuckery
holy shit the difference in how much plasteel you get in damnation vs heresy is crazy
>>498515834>Wanting to throw nuke on 2 shootersDeserved
why do HISTGs even show up in the regular damnation board anymore? If I want to play one I'll queue auric and get penance progress + a team who's actually ready for it instead of being haplessly dropped there through quickplay
>>498515902>>498516049throwing fragnukes when you find spare nade ammo is obligatory according to protocol
>>498515902there was a grenade box and no reasons not to just spam them before dropping especially considering i had 2/3, see >>498516181>>498516049it was a room full of shooters/gunners coming up that you can't see because of gas
>>498515834there's a stupid ass tree branch at the end of hab dreyko that hangs at head level and blocks shots
>>498515243Just play Ogryn with the mk3 clubToo fucking bad they nerved the slap, bullying bosses with it was too fun
Geheimnisnacht when???
>>498516267>there was a grenade box and no reasons not to just spam them before dropping especially considering i had 2/3,Translation: I fucked around but didn't want to find out.
>>498516621i have no idea what you're on about
>>498516462>missing out on all the fun ranged weaponsNo thanks. I'll keep using my bolt pistol.
>voidblast staff>fuck you heretic losers i'm immortal hahahaaa>stairs>nooooooo help meee save meeeeee aaah
>>498514780he's done this like 5 threads in a rowI genuinely don't know what his problem is and why he has decided that it is his role to lurk in this general 24/7 to make the next thread when he doesn't even know the bump limit
>>498516834call it the trauma staff or else
>>498517010who cares? We don't have to wait until the last second. Also it's good to make a new one before the furfaggots arrive
>>498517180>the last secondthere's like 2 hours between when it hits bump limit and when it hits page 10, and some generals wait until the latterlurk more newfag
>>498517285I'm just saying this shit ain't worth being autistic about. There's no need for anger.
>>498517423then it's not worth arguing with me about either, now is ittrying to pull the le apathetic card after admitting you're doing it 24/7 because you're scared furfags (???) will get to it first, shut the fuck up
>>498517591It is worth it to stop this shit in the future
>>498517591>after admitting you're doing it 24/7 because you're scared furfags (???) will get to it firstas someone just watching this conversation, reading this retarded shit made me realize that it's enough 4chan for today
>>498517591you're just mad you didn't get to create a gay furry op and now you're throwing a tantrum, lol :-)
>>498516834What's a voidblast staff?
>>498517180>before the furfaggots arriveWhat makes you think we're not here already?
Remember that one patch where gunners and ragers were actually a threat and the game was fun as fuck?
>unexplained crash>memory leak crash>server disconnection>another server disconnection sweden..
>>498516119auric teams wipe the map in secondsit's impossible to do any penances therenow a regular damnation histg with multiple level 28s? yep it's penance time
>Me waiting for auric Rolling Steel Damnation
>>498516659Lemme fix that for ya
>>498520554What exactly is the reason that we cannot >Select Mission>Select Difficulty>Select ModifiersDiluted player base?I was waiting for Rolling Steel myself for about three hours a couple of days ago
>>498515243Yes
>>498515243It still interrupts ragers with the horde clear combo. Granted, the crusher being a dedicated bonk stick does it better.
>>498521287they wanted to ape DRG but forgot to add the procedurally generated maps that makes that model make sense
>>498522730>interruptsTry throwing them halfway across the room. The shove attack on the crusher will send a rager flying even mid-combo
>>498474851>>498511898consider both hit and run AND stripped down. load up stamina + 2 and stamina efficiency +20% on it. become the stormtrooper who runs through bullets from cover to cover to BRRRT all the things.or stripped down, the two stamina buffs, and dum dum, then you run up on things and blast them in their stupid faces while they swap from gun to melee.
>RATS could be here
>trapper spamdo the swedes know how to do anything else
>>498508689>the laspistol has a 20% (22.5% on psyker) crit chance out of the boxBest way to take advantage of this?
>>498523810Shock Trooper obviously. You get amazing ammo economy with it, and with Deadshot as well you hardly need ammo pickups at all. And put Infernus on the pistol for a decent damage boost - with a crit chance that high you'll set everything on fire.
>>498520672who plays VT1 ?
>>498520672you ruined it
>>498520554Been waiting for ANY Rolling Steel for over two hours now.If seen a dozen variations of Manufactorum HL-17-36 though
>>498523810Dumdum+Infernus 5% crit unyielding stack crit chance in your talents
>auric excise vault mission>going kinda ok, nothing too special>2 guys evaporate right at the start of final event>me and other zealot now must mow down infinite hordes of poxxers while throwing capsules one throw at the time>finally after 10 minutes do it>run to the exit>other zealot gets netted because he stopped to pick up a bot or something>fuck it I can finish it myself>outrun a horde spawning on the other side of elevator>can't press the button>forgot that everyone must be actually dead to use elevator and zealot was still in the process of dying>now spend next 5 minutes cleaving through hordes inside elevator in a brap cloud until I get to start the elevatorfucking hell
>>498526736tl dr never happened don't care
>>498523174>stripped down and dumdumI'm using those. Plus two stamina +3 curios. For perks the gun has reload speed and flak damage.For the shovel I'm using Mk VII with Skullcrusher and Decimator. Crit chance perk and flak damage.
>cleared an auric dam with 4 psykersrannick fears the sibling squad
>exercise vault>there's no barbells anywhere
>>498529885>Bulgarian squats>wallet still there
So I've only played vet so far and want to try something else. Psyker seems lame so I'm left with either Zealot or Ogrym, which one is more fun?Also do the choices you make in character creation affect anything at all, other than the voice?
>>498530423Zealot is more fun, Ogryn only has 1 fun build and it's literally only smashing heavy attacks
>>498529885>Carnival>No rides>Junkies everywhereWorst trip ever
>>498530761there's a shooting gallery of sorts in one part of it
>Bounce between gamepad and MKB depending on the game>Space Marine 2's gamepad controls are perfectly functional, comfortable even, perfect couch game>Try gamepad on Darktide because fuck it>Actively feels like I'm fighting the controllerHow hard would it be to implement a fucking selection wheel holy shit. No wonder Xbox players stay in Malice. There isn't a single good preset that has less than half of your vital mechanics slapped on the d-pad or face buttons.>One single button>Double tap to mark targets>Hold to access your blitz, healing packs/ammo packs/grimoires and auspexI have consolidated three button presses into one. It's that simple.
Show me your drip NOW
>>498531291>No wonder Xbox players stay in MaliceI wish
>>498531291Oh and stims could go in there too, so four button presses now easily accessible on one button.
If you're a smigger I want YOU in my aurics
>>498520746>just waste a bunch of ammo shooting basic chaff, regardless of how boring and wasteful that is>you're a thirdworlder if you don'tlmao, no.
How do you guys name your characters?
>>498533101after me and my family members
>>498533101whatever I think is funny at the moment
Thoughts?
>>498533101I'm conflicted between picking a meme name or a serious rp name
>>498533304I try picking a serious rp name but I lack the creativity.
>>498533303It'll work.
>>498533303Why bother with Mercy Killer when Precognition exists?
>>498533303in my opinion you don't really need the nodes around chorus, it's just a 10 sec boost and you'll gain one skill pointnot a fan of the immolation grenade neither, you have a flame thrower you'll be more comfortable with the throwing knives to deal with specials at range, and you would gain 2 more skill points
>>498533101I see what the character reminds me of and then make that. My first ogryn was heavy from TF2
>>498533101Vermintide proxy, variation named after the voice, or I have a specific character concept.
>>498533303mercy killer is only good on vet who gets guaranteed bleed on every hit
Is there a way to remove the effect when you're on your last wound? The one that makes everything way too bright.
>>498533998wow thats really creative and unique
>>498533853>not a fan of the immolation grenade neither, you have a flame thrower you'll be more comfortable with the throwing knives to deal with specials at range, and you would gain 2 more skill pointsWhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>498534635wtf I was sure you picked the immolation grenade I'm tireddo I smell pennies?
>>498534343There's a mod that lets you disable screen effects. I think it's called "Disable Screen Effects".
>>498534635It seems pretty clear to me. He's saying if you wanna burn stuff you would get more mileage out of a flamer + throwing knife combo since that'll also save points on routingI dont necessarily agree with him tho the immo nades have some good synergy with chorus
Oh no...
>>498534932You coudl have saved her.
imagine being a gurofag
>>498534932>>498535136based, kill nazis
>>498535256>gore?>in MY 40K?
>>498535579retard
>>498534932They're just havin a laff
>>498535136Billions of Orks must die.
>>498534932>>498535136DIE!
pls stop posting gore drawings warhammer 40k is a family IP nothing bad happen
>>498533303>Flamer for horde>knife for regular combat, with double Unyielding buff for boss killing >Chorus for support>Until Death+Revenant Good. All around generalist Zealot. If you swapped Chorus to Faithful you'd have the standard damage knife build. I would maybe swap Mercy killer to Untranny Strike or Resposte (Very good blessing for crit knife builds. I'm not a fan of Precog, window too small, and you have Duelist already). I would also put 1 Sniper Res on your curios (Replace 1 5% toughness). It reduces a sniper shot down below a wound, which will save you many times. You're also very close to Thy Wraith be Swift, which is incredibly powerful. Consider picking it up.
CAN PABLO LOAD INTO THE FUCKING MOURNINGSTAR ALREADY HOLY FUCK
>>498536918sah you need to see my cosmetics
>>498535256I dont have to imagine
>>498531318cowards, all of you
>get outcast engineer on team in chaos wastes>he throws so many bombs and nukes everything from range that the other 3 of us barely get to play the gamealright then
>>498537935give me some time
what's the dump stat on knife?
>>498536609>You're also very close to Thy Wraith be Swift, which is incredibly powerful. Consider picking it up.I realized this shortly after posting when a poxer stunned me out of my flamer fire right as I was about to light up a horde. I swapped the 20% damage boost from chorus and +1 stamina for TWBS>I would also put 1 Sniper Res on your curios (Replace 1 5% toughness). It reduces a sniper shot down below a wound, which will save you many times.Checks out. Thanks.
>>498538513Damage
>>498536085>530,000 grims picked upgrim
>>498538513The base damage is so low that the difference between 60% and 80% damage is something like 9 damage(?) it's basically fuck all. Getting an extra 14.83 centimeters on your dodge is better.
I hope they'll make events for Halloween and christmas in Darktide, I like when devs do that it's comfy
>>498538953>14.83 centimeters
>>498539178It's not small. Shut up.
>>498539178it's actually more than enough
>>498539178SHUT UP IT'S NOT SMALL
>>498538989>expectation: halloween plasteel grind event on lights out missions>reality: fuck all
>>498538989>I hopebro why u do thisyou're only setting yourself up for disappointment
>>498539410we already had lights out event, now it's time for pox gas missions
>>498539410grim
>Level 564 zealot dies to 1 rager
could the ennemies have psyker specialists? I know fuck all about 40kIf yes, how would you like them to play?
>>498539976specials summoning tornados
>>498540078wait a minute....
>>498539976yeah they got chaos sorcerers, dregs could have them>how would you like them to play?dreg smite psyker
>>498539836oh i can't make ONE MISTAKE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AGAIN because i've half-drunkenly casually played this shit game for 2 years? shut the FUCK up.
>>498540362dude beer lmao
omfg i'm so drunk... but i'm the cool adult type of drunk i drink alone at home to play video games
>>498539976>how would you like them to play?Just like snipers but they don't have to aim. If you're in their line of sight they just deal damage after a while. You either kill them before they're finished casting or you break line of sight with cover.
>>498540845if was meant as figure of speech i didn't expect it to trigger a reaction
*hits a fat rip off the kush penjamin over the mic*weed powers activated, time to queue up and force other people to babysit me online
>>498540845based
>>498539976>psyker specials>grenadier type; charges up a lightning ball that will stagger and stamina drain every player that it hits>sniper type; locks on to your head and slowly begins charging up, if you don't stop them you get get immobilized and start taking health damage. >just annoying type; creates shield that blocks ranged attacks, likes to hang out with gunners and sniper
>>498540845this but unironically
>>498540362No you can't, and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>498539178
>>498524741A few dedicated autists that play exclusively cata and nightmare.And a lot of Italians and Russians for some reason.
>>498540845>drink with friends on vent/ts/shitcord while playing vidya togetherYes, this is the best way to drink. It's fact.
>>498538574>Thy Wraith be SwiftYeah good choice, it's just powerful. The damage from Gunners is not that bad, but their stun is the most annoying fucking thing ever and you will get cucked occasionally from it, costing you games. And also, unlike Gunners, Reapers will melt you in a second, so another great reason to take TWBS. >Sniper ResYep, yw. I run 1 Sniper Res on all my Zealot builds for that nice breakpoint (No more than that, not worth it). Even besides the breakpoint, I feel like that reduced damage always seems to really matter when I get sniped.
>>498538513Mobility, unless you're speedrunning. >>498538953Take that difference in damage and multiply it by the number of attacks you are doing in a game (which is a lot, because the attack speed is so high). That is how much damage you're losing, it's significant. Mobility is the dump stat.
>>498540362Zealot-san... if you get downed that's really embarrassing for you. Your only job is to not die.
>>498540845>tell everyone I'm drunk at the start of each mission>I'm actually sober and badBut now they think I'm a cool wildcard when I blow up a poxburster point blank.
>>498524741a few peoplemost play with friends because of cheaters
>>498543310Erm, actually, overkilling poxwalkers is super important!Unless you can point so some important breakpoint that people will care about no one is gonna start dumping mobility on the knife.
Aside from the possibility of a new class do we have any info about future content for Darktide?
>>498543914good old plasmaguns?
>>498543457that's not true
>>498543914Next to none. Only vague hints about another hive that we'll maybe go to as future content. I hope they introduce the second hive as a Chaos Wastes style mode
>>498543914more skins in the commodore to fund vermintide 2
Disclaimer: I am drunk, hooked up on several types of drug, most of them not prescribed, my cat is about to take a stroll over my keyboard and my internet connection is especially laggy.Also there are people that could call me on my phone or ring my doorbell at any momentNow stop judging me
>>498543914We are getting a big update for the darktide anniversary with:>PS5 port>new weapons>one new mission>some good cosmetics to tax the paypigs coming back for the update and ps5 newfags
>>498544830This might be the only frog since the original I actually find amusing.
>>498543914yeah, next update hallowette has a new mechanic where if you've bought over $100 worth of cosmetics she'll lean over the counter and spit in your mouth for only $20 a pop (it's actually like 20003 aquilas so you have to buy $30 worth but that's okay because you'll use the extra at some point anyway)
>>4985438269 damage isn't going to overkill a poxwalker so that doesn't make sense.
>>498543914There's a PS5 port coming and there's some assets for a new boss buried in the game's files. Other than that I think there's nothing, apparently most of Fatshark is busy porting it to PS5.
whats the dump stat on voidstrike? charge rate?
>>498545484same as every staff, quell speed
>>498543724>russian federation>but no french republic, federal republic of germany or kingdom of belgiumwhy
>>498545484peril resist
How do I make thunderhammer fun, outside of the 5 seconds where a boss spawns?
>chainsword doesn't stagger crushers during its specialwhy fartshart
>>498546263Have you tried turning it on?
>>498546263crucis, slaughterer and headtakernow your thunderhammer actually kills everything but ogryns with uncharged heavies
>>498546263>she doesnt have fun oneshotting crushers and mutants running at you with a big explosion to the face
>>498546982you turned it into a chain axe
>>498546263You don't already find it fun? I don't know what to tell you. I love smashing Maulers and Crushers to death with a swing and electric explosion. Making Muties take a tumble and batting away the unwashed masses before sliding up the local ruffians and bonking them into submission is peak Darktide. Maybe you should go back to the gay space wizard class.
>>498531318
>>498546321sword to small
>>498547298is that the best braced
I'm not a metawhore, it's not my fault that the Dueling Sword is the most fun melee weapon in the game. I like zoom-zoomin and clicking heads, sue me.
>>498545942Blame Steam.
>>498547561YesSlow fire braced, fast fire infantry congratulations you just mastered autoguns
>>498547765>dbspic has shit tasteimagine my shock
>>498548239>bragging about his taste in tranimeLet me guess: you play psyker
>>498548849it's because most DBZ fans are south americans, french and arabs
>>498545484>charge rateFuck NO, you need it to charge as fast as possible. It's quell speed, since active quelling is the last thing you'll be doing and it's already fast enough anyway.
>>498549756>active quelling is the last thing you'll be doing
halberdin Darktide
>>498548849Outing yourself as a newfag has never been so easy
>enemy that shoots a massively wide attack that goes through objects and enemies (From any angle, even below or above) and if it grazes you, you are dead >and this enemy will be spawned immediately next to you or directly in hordes, which will bodyblock it so you can't kill it who the FUCK.. thought the Trapper was a good idea? I can't decide if the packrat or the Trapper is worse in terms of game design. Muties can be annoying, but fair. Dogs can be easily countered, fair. Trappers? Game just spams them at you during any sort of horde and just prays it traps you by the bs. And whenever they do trap you, the game immediately spawns a fucking bomber right there who immediately chucks fire at you. The game's sound also lies to you about where they are. FUCK the swedes.
>>498549813True>charging>attacking>quelling You don't quell first then attack.
>>498549941Yes or poleaxe. Please, Fatshark
>>498550253Trappers are singlehandedly the reason revolver will never not be top tier.
what's the point of the smg?
private matches whenwhat the FUCK are they waiting for
WAHHHH WHY ARE ENEMIES SPAWNING THAT CAN ACTUALLY HARM ME WAHHHHH IT MUST BE BUGGED
>>498550683>spawns and one shots youSo fair!
>>498549941simple, just go loot one off a custodes
>>498550818WAHHHH IT'S NOT THAT IT WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION, IT SPAWNED NEXT TO ME THIS HAPPENS EVERY TIME!
>play without shout crutch>realize I am terrible at Vet
>>498550586no point, it's probably the worst weapon in the game bar none
>>498550586My zealot friend tells me he likes it for hordeclear. He's stuck in heresy.
>>498550884You know, after watching the episode I think the hate over the female custodian was a bit exaggerated.I think she's cool despite being written poorly.https://youtu.be/PZ9WCI7Ynqc?feature=shared&t=183
What's the best keystone for Chorus Zealot, in your opinion? I run Martyrdom on all my Zealot builds since the damage boost feels a lot more tangible when I'm missing a wound or two (Auric 5) but in Zealot discussions I hear people prefer Blazing Piety, and the friend I play with prefers Momentum.
>>498551439I think it's gay and pointless>write man, down to the muscular body and stature>call it a femalelike, ok? who does this appeal to other than fetish fags?
>>498546263I couldn't figure it out so I sidestepped the problem by using the crusher and pretending it's a thammer.
>>498551439I like her mute guard idk who she is I know nothign about 40k
>>498551693Keystone choice depends entirely on the weapon I'm bringing.
>>498551712>men biologically engineered to look like hulking muscled monstrosities>everything is fine>female doing the same>WTF THEY LOOK LIKE MENLike I don't want to defend blatant faggot propaganda, but this argument is really retarded.
>>498552048I mainly use the Eviscerator, sometimes swap in the Power Hammer for flavour.
>>498552087Let's not pretend that the ultramuscular bodybuilder look isn't a traditionally male thing
>>498552226That doesn't change the fact that the genetic modifications spess murhens go through are not mutually exclusive to male.They never were.
>>498552368Who cares what the lore says nigger? it's still a man with a female head implanted on top. It's like you think lore shit excuses bad design
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BRACED AUTOGUN VARIANTS? I LIKE THE STUBBY ONE WITH 100 rounds
>>498552152Martyr is what I greatly prefer to use with the Eviscerator and TH too. Although with the Eviscerator, I do like to keep Shred on it and take only the cooldown node form BP's section. But I also run it with the charge, so keeping that attack speed bonus active more often is quite huge. I'm sure the CDR is still good with relic, but spamming it just means you aren't doing damage.
>>498552508>the same argument with a different syntaxWell I think you're retarded then.Have fun masturbating to buff men with massive shoulderpads.
>>498552593I was thinking that as I looked over the talent spread, BP's section is much more suited to frequent bursts of CTW than Relic. I think I'll have a play with a full left side build, I just spent a lot of time with Relic since it has such useful reset power if your position is being overrun.
>>498552508>it's still a man with a female head implanted on top.NTA but thats literally the pointare you actually retarded or just an ESL?
>>498552613>Have fun masturbating to buff men with massive shoulderpads.that's funny because the only people who like shit like what you posted in your webm are those exact people>>498552847>that's literally the pointrefer to my original question retard: >who does this appeal to other than fetish fags?
>>498551693Evis + crit so I can mindlessly swing and cut the cooldown in half.
>>498552847No it's not the point you actual idiot. They are women as explained by the lore. See >>498552087
>>498552834I'm not terribly fond of the relic, but I haven't used it much. The charge just does so much for you, it's hard to let go of. Relic's always seemed like more of an "I hope my team notices me doing this and actually capitalizes on it" thing. I'd much rather have something that more directly benefits me. Usually, grenades are enough to help stabilize shitstorms, and the charge helps you prevent them altogether by outputting more damage.
>>498553012>muh fetishder coomer
>>498551154>Play without shout>Do fine>But team keeps going down and leaving
>>498553330yeah let's pretend that anyone actually likes the concept other than >UHHH DOMMY MOMMY>I NEED A MOMMY WHO CAN JUST KILL ME!!!! coomer worms
Mommy, are the 40k retards fighting eachothers again?
It's actually a good design because the people who designed it also wrote the lore that says it's possible :/
>>498551693Depends on the weapon. Inexorable Judgement is underwhelming though, so barely anything uses it. >KnifeAlways Blazing Piety. >Dueling SwordMartyrdom, but BP is also decent. >AxeEither.>THEither.
Why does nobody use crusher? I play nothing but auric and never see it. It's really good, especially now that you can put slaughter on it.
>40kiggers once more reveal to everyone the retarded chuds they actually are
>>498552368It's really telling that the entire argument for the retarded ass female custodes shit is >umm actually the lore never said it's not possibleIt's like playing chess with some faggot and he flips over the chess board and he goes>HEH THE RULES NEVER SAID I CAN'T DO THATit's technically correct, but you're still a faggot for even looking for loopholes in the first place. A loophole implies that you want to circumvent accepted standards.
>>498550884Reject for scale.
>>498554532>fallacy of contaminationClassic.
>>498554532>a setting with hundreds of books and games and endless spinoffs that's been going on for decades can never ever do anything that wasn't originally in the lore because ummm has chess ever changed? thought not sweaty
>>498554676>repeating the argument that it's technically soemthing the writers can do so it can't be wronghey faggot: the writers can do whatever they want with their setting, they can even straight up retcon shit. Just because they can do that doesn't mean it's good writing or design.you are a bootlicker. Your literal sole argument is that they can do that, you never stop to consider the inherent value in doing it
>>498554857>fallacy of intrinsic value
>>498554667That's not even close to what that is you pseud. Hot damn imagine throwing around terms like this and being absolutely wrong and clueless on what they mean
>>498554997>ad hominem
>>498554960I guess it's at least kind of funny you cite an economics concept but it's still weird that you even do this pretend falseflag shit
>>498554997>>498555110shut the fuck up already
The Thunder Hammer seems fun.Is it fun?
are there breeding programs for imperial guard vets? seems like an easy win, they're right there and surely a guy who's survived a dozen campaigns has something worth keeping and spreading.
>>498555525that's what hive cities are for, bodies are just another resource
>>498555472Fun is good and all but what really matters is the meta. Use a rapier.
>>498555525GW is beyond prudish so there's never any explanation for how these massive hive cities full of exploited workers keep their head count up. I think the closest you get is the krieg clone stuff
>>498555656But the sword isn't fun and neither is the knife.
>>498555686>deliberately not explaining sex in any form or shape to keep the franchise pg13>THEY'RE SO PRUDISH40K fans really are massive retards
I think the Sororitas are hot and if women went into the militarum they would be raped.
>>498555686poor desperate people fuck a lot, don't think it needs any particular explainer
>>498556156>let's keep our ultra violent war game franchise where demons flay eachother PG13uhh I think that's reta->let's introduce a demon prince of lust that employs succubi but then make it all PG13ummmmm
>>498555686>there's never any explanation for how these massive hive cities full of exploited workers keep their head count upThe same way that shitty impoverished third world shit holes keep their headcount up: by fucking.
>>498555472Yes, very fun. It's also quite strong, at least with Martyrdom.
Empowered psionics and assail penance are all I have left is this easier on heresy/malice
>>498551439Hot take: I've quite liked The Tithes so far and think that it is actually making a fine case for female Custodes. The fact that she is female is irrelevant 99% of the time.
>>498556621Slaanesh is not the Chaos god of lust, anon.You'd know this if you weren't a filthy secondary.
>>498555801the sword is extremely funonce you find out how to one tap crushers to the face with it
is martyrdom THAT fun? I never really used it because I rarely get it and doing it on purpose seems a bit weird to me
>>498556707Thats a childs way of looking at it, the real overarching reason is because of foreign aid and imported/exported labor. It's an overarching intentional economic thing. Now you could say that the imperium financially encourages poor hive worlds to have lots of offspring and that's exactly the kind of structural exposition that would be interesting to read
>>498555686It doesn't need explanation. Sex is fun. When you're poor, you have more limited options to pass your free time with. There also seems to be a correlation between intelligence/class and proper use of birth control. What does warrant explanation is how the worlds are first populated, but I'm not a lorefag, so I have no idea whether that's addressed anywhere.
>>498556818>bro he's like...the god of sensation and ambition and shiiiiet>please ignore that penis rubbing against stuff is a powerful sensation and also his symbol is a male and female symbol corrupted and also all of his daemons have stapled on tits and also-ACK
>>498556818>you see this demon who is all about pleasure is NOT about lust it's about the pleasure of uh, doing other stuff too like maybe someone enjoys being turned into a dog? (we have to keep it pg13) so cooli'm proud of being a secondary because of how actually genuinely stupid this shit is
>>498556935Martyrdom is strong. It gives you bigger bonuses than IJ and is more consistent once it's activated.
>>498557198ah well I may give it a try, how many +1 woudn curios do you need?
>>498556935You kinda sorta almost are as tanky as a crit build, except the toughness dr is on 24/7 so there's no weird gaps where you'd squishy while standing out in front of shooters (they need to make it higher tho)(also zealot has no problem gap closing and sustaining crit shield at all times so this is hardly a benefit)From there it's mostly about making weapons that kind of don't work suddenly work VERY well, like the second eviscerator and crucis. The attack speed and damage push them into just the right places to suddenly do crazy things like never having to block because everything in front of you is staggered 24/7, or one tapping crushers with a non-crit activated overhead.It does need to be buffed, though.
>>498557421Up to you. I used to run 3, but I swapped one for a +3 stam curio instead and so far haven't looked back. I haven't played around too much with wound breakpoints in the Meat Grinder.
>>498557073>>498557145Slaanesh is the god of obsession and excess.Lust and sexual pleasure are merely a drop in a tiny ocean of pleasure.A warrior that trains every day striving to be perfect actually falls under Slaanesh, not Khorne.For that is obsession, not martial prowess.A monk praying every day attempting to reach newer levels of mindfulness falls under Slaanesh, and not Tzeentch.For that is obsession, not knowledge.A person washing their bodies and their hands multiple times a day falls under Slaanesh, not Nurgle.For that is obsession, not fear of death.In short, Slaanesh is a massive cunt that has been siphoning power from his brother gods for millennia.It's easy to dismiss him as merely the god of cocks and tits, but he has significantly more nuance than most people give credit.The Eldar gave birth to Slaanesh not because they created a mega-orgy, but because their wickedness and obsessions reached such heights the only response from the Empyrean was to birth this malefic entity.I feel like Warhammer 40.000 media has failed to explain this multiple times, whereas in Warhammer Fantasy it's showcased very efficiently.
>>498557523>>498557726 thanks senpai I'll need some curios first
What's the dump stat on helbore?>inb4 the whole gun
>>498558243Charge
>>498550253Hookrats are scarier than trappers. Ratclick specials in general are bigger threats. Nothing in the Shopclick arsenal even comes close to the blightstormer.
>>498558358STOOOOOOOOOORMY WEATHER*inhales*
>>498558393>STOOOOOOOOOORMY WEATHERisn't she the porn actress that peed on Trump?
>>498556285No.
>>498558016probably because it's hard to portray in an interesting waysame problem as tzeentch except twice as much
>>498556978They don't need incentive to fuck. The aid just improves the survival rate of the offspring
>>498558016Incorrect, he's the god of sex drugs and rock and roll. I imagine you zoomers haven't even heard that phrase before. Slaanesh is from the 80s
>>498556935Incredibly fun. You get the highest damage you can possibly get as Zealot, just so long as you're willing to play on the edge. You fuck up once and you're dead weight to your team. Abuse Until Death, that's the way. Extremely high skillcap Zealot build, but very rewarding.
>>498558661Eh no, WHFB did a really good job so far.>>498558914Fantasy predates 40k by 5 years, secondary.Noise Marines were a playful joke.
>>498558243Ammo
>>498558016All this tells me is that the excuse is VERY elaborate
>deaf in one ear>have functionally 0 directional hearing>can only tell if an enemy spawned directly on my rightSufferingImmense suffering when its the pack of hounds mod
>>498559460aqshy is that you
>>498558358This is not because of the special themselves, it's because the U5 has weaker (on average) ranged special-deletion tools than the rejects.
>>498558481They should copy-paste the blightstormer into Shopclick. Imagine it sniping a storm onto the battlefield from an obscure monster closet before teleporting to that 2nd hive that we don't talk about while the storm chases the party while adjusting the dimensions of the storm to fully fill the hallways.
I like martyrdom because with it I actually use the stimms rather than hoarding a health booster forever.
>>498559575The hookrats pull people around corners instead of leaving them on the floor next to the safety of the party. The rat enjoys monster armor. The hook can kill things on its own without needing the help of a horde. Copy paste the rat into Shopclick and it would still do trapper's job better than trapper.
>>498559172
>>498559575>U5 has weaker (on average) ranged special-deletion tools than the rejects.>griffonfoot, trollhammer, literal handheld miniguns, bows with infinite ammo, shotguns with 20meters of effective range, infinite stagger staff
>>498559728I think a blightstormer would be vastly more dangerous in shopclick because the levels are generally built with far more deadly falls than ratclick, on average. What would be pretty interesting might be a black hole chaos sorcerer variant that sucks people in so they get fucked by other stuff if they get caught in it
>>498559987It really is such a shame the rumbler is as dogshit as it is and isn't just a trollhammer clone
>>498559575Lol.Lmao.Rofl even.
>>498556935It's fun for the meme status but it really doesn't do much except for specific weapons like the Thunder Hammer. It's not a bad keystone, there just really isn't a reason to use it over the other two. It should give ranged damage and be based on % health and then it would be a competitive option IMO.
>>498557421Depends on preference, what weapons you're using, and how good you are. If you're very good and confident, AND will utilize them properly, and can survive with base stamina, go 3 wounds (This will reward you even more because you get to use Desperation). But, commonly I'll see max wound noob Zealots and they will sit at 3-4 wounds of HP, which is a complete waste. If you only want to use Martyrdom safely like that, then you can go ahead and just go 1-2 wounds on your curios and pick up a +3 stamina curios for more mobility/utility. It's really a preference. But I never see max wound Zealots NOT going downed and dying. It's a really hard way to play that not many can pull off.
>>498559987>trollhammerhas like 5 ammo>handheld minigunscomes on the shittiest class in the game >bows with infinite ammo nerfed >shotguns with 20 meters of effective rangeall fartshart games do this, however packmasters are borderline immune to shotgun damage so it's a bad example>infinite stagger staffsienna is gay >griffonfootwhen I last played people got kicked from missions for bringing it
>>498560212>plasma gun with 4 shotssee, worse
>>498560192pre nerfs
>>498559987the revolver is easily stronger than all of these for killing specials
>>498560342You didn't play ratclick, didn't you.The javelin has infinite ammo, you just reload and shit out new spears from nothing.Javelin with scrounger has infinite active ammo, anon. >>498560436
>>498560212nerfed and the plasma gun is still better cause darktide has no friendly fire so you can do this from the backlines, whereas if you do that in vermintide the kruber whose HP bar you're ruining will turn around and mating press you
>>498560436Im so fucking glad theres no elf in this game
>>498560295When was the last time you played ratclick, anon?The trollhammer on an engineer has 11 shots, and regens passively.OE is also completely broken and the best class in the game rn.Kruber's repeater deleted everything.Saltzpyre's is a bit worse.>nerfedThe moonfire bow is still pretty strong considering it has infinite cleave.>packmasters immune to shotgun damageStop playing dwons.>sienna is gayLegend shitter i presume?>people got kicked from missions for bringing itAnd other hilarious tales from Champion and below.
>>498559987Why would you bring up shotguns? Darktide has more of them, they are available to all classes and they function the same or better.
>>498560603That webm is post nerfs, anon.They didn't nerf shit.
>>498560816>Champion and belowYeah come to think of it in a tide game I've never been kicked on account of loadoutPossibly since "team of misfits" is the name of the game
>>498556978> the real overarching reason is because of foreign aidempty retard gibberish
>>498560881NTA but probably because bluntsman effective range is 80+ meters and can snipe blightstormers with a shotgun even on cata
>>498560436Iirc the melee attack is pretty beastly as well, especially on handmaiden
>>498560816 >>498560295Forget engineer. Troll hammer on IB can shoot for days between resourceful sharpshooter refunding the shot on headshot and that trinket passive refunding "bombs" a percentage of the time on usage. You can even come out ahead with a net positive of ammo if both proc. I also don't think that any of the rejects have guns that can delete a monster faster than RV with MWP
>one (1) anon says ratclick better in something with proof>pigclick shitters seethe, cope and dilatemany such caseswheres the playercount fag, we need the last straw
>>498561247Yeah it has the highest weakspot multiplier of any melee weapon, sitting at 300%.Shade with javelin stabs oneshots monsters on cata. Assuming she hits the face or whatever the weakspot is, which is difficult sometimes.
EASY AS ____!
>>498560816>When was the last time you played ratclick, anon?something like a year ago admittedly. I didn't know OE got buffed, back then the joke was he's utter dogshit and not worth buying >>sienna is gay>Legend shitter i presume?just telling it how it is. Only tryhard fags play sienna with the meta loadouts. I'm basically admitting she's more OP than anything in darktide>>people got kicked from missions for bringing it>And other hilarious tales from Champion and below.This one is you being gay though. They absolutely did kick griffonfoot players from cata games and if they don't do it anymore I would be heavily surprised.
>>498558661It's easyJust comes off as cringe and cartoonistBut inherently that would only appeal to non-newcomers
>>498561451Right at which point>Backdashing>Fast stabs>Long range stabsFeels op as shitSame reason agile feels op in DT
darktide 2 will have again 5 fixed playable characters>Morrow>Hadon>Mazosi>Swagger>Zola after psychic awakening
>>498561618they kick OE from cata nowadays, if you're lucky they check if you do the bomb meme first
>>498561309I like VT2 better but I cannot fathom ever thinking the U5 have better anti-special tools. Every Darktide class has an absurd amount of anti-specialist tools due to the more mobile and more ranged nature of the game. Darktide's revolver is basically Kruber's handgun except 5 bullets instead of 1 slowly reloaded shell in the chamber and you can just sprint away from a specialist if you don't want to deal with them. This is not even a judgement of which game is better, being able to kill shit faster or slower isn't actually a net positive or negative, but it's much easier to kill shit quickly in Darktide. Which ironically makes good game knowledge and decisionmaking more important in VT2 because the players having less OP bullshit makes enemies more threatening.
>>498561990>no ogrynNot buyin
>>498561990Lameway better setup: >Masozi>Dukane>Hadron>Hallowette>Brahms
>>498562136Only if dukane is the only character with friendly fire
>>498562043>if you're lucky they check if you do the bomb meme firstWhat's the bomb meme? I like OE but I think that I use him differently than most. I like using 2H hammer with the giga-stagger talent. Kill specials with the crank gun, kill hordes attacking from the rear with the crank gun while letting the team melee forward hordes, or keep hordes mopped up while the team is fighting a monster.
>>498562097How many targets did the handgun penetrate? The revolver is like 8 stormvermin equivalents in one shot
>>498560212>>498560436>a class exclusive weapon in a class locked game>>498559987That's nice. I, however, have 2 plasma vets, a gunpsyker, an ogryn kickback and a revolver.
>>498562290>friendly fireLol, fuck off rat tranny
>>498563035Literally nothing a plasma vet can do that 2 can'tI would prefer 1 plasma 1 bolter over 2 plasma
>>498562097Kruber just has mid ranged weapons. The elf, troll hammer, and MWP put the rejects to shame. Sienna is at the very least on equal footing with the psykers, but I'm a bit inclined to hand the advantage to bright wizard and necromancer. There's also no direct parallel for unchained.
>>498563064>Vermintide invented friendly fire>Commissar with no friendly fireAre you stupid or just trying to start an argument over how you arent a discord plant trying to start an argument
>>498563145Fair enough. I'm just illustrating what >>498562097 said.
>>498563301don't take the sperg's bait
>>498561496jackin my big fat retard dick on the dropship and pretending nobody can see or hear it
>>498563301It's just that nobody actually thinks friendly fire is fun. Trannies just use it as a way to grief
reminder that Victor has never been wrong about anything, ever, in his life
>>498563663I still liked the shitty "saltz will get a vampire class" meme.
>>498563663sienna is in her late 20sit's actually annoying how much older she is depicted in fan art
>>498563801I was on team werewolf
>>498563653>Nobody thinks friendly fire is funOne good chance they added in DT is the pierce on friendly fire because ogryn players are retardedAt least in VT you were punished for being a retard, you could immediately tell an intelligent team based on their spacing and movementNuance is fun because it's skillAnd I'm not asking for retarded helldiver's bullshit either, but friendly fire is generally more a good thing than a bad thing, at least in terms of player skill demandsThough I wouldn't trust a console gamer with friendly fire
>>498564915this discussion can always be ended with "add it as a modifier"
>>498563663>elf goes down>Saltz says "oh look she's down again">elf "can i help if they single me out because i'm such a challenge?">Saltz mutters to himself "Sigmar save me you ARE a challenge indeed, every second of every minute"
>>498563663>I feel the dark gods reach out for me
>>498563653>nobody actually thinks friendly fire is funget good
>>498565039Nah as a gameplay mechanic I can definitely see it working alongside the return of temp health
>>498565403Darktide has lines like this too but they never trigger since they either messed up the trigger or thought it was toxic
>>498565582Iirc the real problem is>Dialogue is tied to progression>Dialogue was not implemented on launch>If you maxed out before it was implemented you'll never hear this shitThat said craZy German psyker guy genuinely is a shooting offense for half the shit he says
>>498565582There are rare lines I've heard that seem to be mocking players for going down multiple times.
>>498565927>male loner is basically a hereticHe's under Melk's protection
>DUELING SWORD DUELING SWORD DUELING SWORD >mfw still slaying with my Devil's ClawYeah, I adopted it before the parry was OP btw, thanks for asking.
>>498559460Just play in mono
>>498566408???????????? are you retarded
>>498566019I really enjoy the >Mocking the codex astartes>Making fun of cadian guy>Cadian guy having very sour grapes over cadiaKarking guy can stuff it
>>498566371I mean it's >literally just a fucking sword and it gets the job done.
>>498566518>Hear it generally>Not hearing it at allNo retard, if he's going to fucking not hear it coming it's infinitely worse than at least knowing it's on the field
>>498566019There was like different stages in vermintidebasically>stage 1, elf goes down>"the elf went down!">stage 2, elf goes down again>"the elf is horizontal again!" >stage 3, elf goes down even more>elaborate dialogue plays making fun of the elf btfoing herstage 3 is msising in darktide but the voice files are in the game, or at least I never heard them in organic play.
>>498566769holy fucking retard lmao
>>498565582DT has those, you'll probably hear them more if you play with heresy shitters.
>>498559460You are the reason why the spidey sense mod exists.
>>498565927>Dialogue is tied to progressionWat
>>498567051Yup. Tons of voice lines are only available below level 30.
>>498567173>>498567051Yeah supposedly your trust levels are supposed to correspond inversely to your unrulinessSo by 30 you hear less>>498566812Ok thank you I hope your day is going half as well as mineEven if your attitude is unprovoked and unnecessarily acting like a discord raider
>>498567530NOOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE BEING NICE I AM DEFEATED NOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>498566518>>498566812check it out this zoomer doesn't know what mono does
>>498567967im not being nice, im politing suggesting your fucking behavior is either schizo as fuckeither because maybe your tranny ass friends are sacrificing themselves to their retardation so your day must be bador because youre a fucking literal schizo who probably acts like this on the internet because no fucking other reasonable person would be able to get away with it among normal people
>>498566079I still haven't heard the Melk under-the-desk favor dialogue line from female loner.Though its also been a while since I heard the line at all from the male voice.
>>498568268ok im good thenkill yourself
My veteran after my team was doing poorly once said "I'm glad nobody's keeping score..." Little did he know...
>>498569350on that note they really should implement statisticsThere are people who genuinely have stated "this build is cracked" while being better at literally nothing over anyone on the teamWith the new theory crafting freedom the gave gives at least 20% of the fun is constantly finding ways to make shit work
>>498569537To be fair you don't know how badly he usually does. Maybe that build is cracked for his standards and purposes. Everyone should be fine with a scoreboard if it was just opt-in, but then again, that's how the mod works. I just wish I didn't have to install a shitty bloated mod that crashes me occasionally for it.
i've been playing vt2 for 200h and barely know any grim locationsi know maybe 40% tome locations but grims? maybe 10% lol
>>498570029>To be fair you don't know how badly he usually doeswell, i dont know how>running in, giving me 9 rescues and the team 3 revives>waking the DH>doing the least damage>killing the least of anything>running in and taking more damage than the entire team combined x2is on any level, "cracked"a real embarassment
>>498570276some people have very low standards for themselves, and most of those have very high standards for the people around them
>>498570632right, well even without the numbers, i think we can all agree ~80 hours in most people kinda can "feel" when someone is playing badly or really welllike, with spacing concerns you can tell in VT when youre in a good teamA guy I know who mostly plays vermintide 2, picked up darktide and commented"I like how the game is telling me theres someone attacking me from behind but i just ignore it because youre killing them all and have my back covered"and then theres people who are so proud of their build they feel the need to TELL their team theyve struck gold
>>498570276It's "cracked" because they didn't manage to fuck up hard enough to trigger a total wipe.
>>498571642wow id dismiss a statement like that completely if smite players didnt exist
>>498560592not from nothing. they are stored in kerillians cavernous cunt. after all, kruber's been remodelling her shithole and cunt on the regular for months if not years at this point. the real reason the elves don't like their women going anywhere near menfolk. Big Human Cock
The Shield has somehow once again become the worst weapon to see in auric missions.A month ago it was a sure sign as a TOOOONKER, but now that its arguably the best Ogryn weapon you will make the mistake a player knows how to use it.Now its a coin toss, and there is still no good way to gauge if an ogryn player is good (there never are)I'll take a smigger over an ogryn any day
>>498573241>cavernousdoes someone with her attitude get much action?
>>498573285>have a manlet vet>frequently in 3 ogryn teams>frequently see the "protecc lil uns" comment>frequently the only person picking people up, doing damage, or generally trying to beat the missionI mean, on one hand they might be roleplaying, or on the other hand theyve found their true calling as fucking morons, but at least they arent blocking my shots anymore
Anyone here played Forever Winter? How is it perfomance wise atm? I know they're trying to optimize the game and so on.>>498569350"I'm glad nobody's keeping score...">Zealot with the scoreboard mod
>Zealot-san gets trapped>starts cursing the game in chatLove to see it.
>>498573285>nowshield was hands-down the best ogryn melee weapon since the class overhaul and only recently got competition from the pickaxesa month ago you were just stupid
I'm bad at psyker and finishing the assail penance is this okNever much liked the new stuff still a fan of BB/Venting
Why is Zealot skill tree full of ranged stuff mixed in with melee stuff? I want to bonk shit, not shoot shit. If I wanted to shoot shit I would stay a vet.
>>498575404Get Take Aim. Assails can hit weakspots, and are also a ranged attack that can use the charge and launch a crit Assail which will crit every person it hits
>>498568947I still don't get it. What does he mean by this?
>>498570029>a shitty bloated modYou don't have to install animation events, the source of much of the memory issues, for the scoreboard to function.
>>498576178>You don't have to install animation events, the source of much of the memory issues, for the scoreboard to function.wait what? Why does it list it as a dependency then? Does it still function the exact same way?
so does the scrier gaze lingering phase ONLY include the 1-30% stacking damage bonus? I'm fucking around with the "show crit chance mod" and it shows me losing the 20% crit chance the second I hit 100% peril
>>498575703A good Zealot can be determined by how effective he uses his secondary. Yes, you are the melee crackhead class. That does not mean you don't have a ranged weapon. You have one, use it, it compliments your melee well and helps your weaknesses. It's kind of like Spy from Tf2. His main weapon is his knife, but his revolver is also strong and he needs to know how to use it along with his knife to be the most effective. The worst Zealots I've played with are the retards who just insist on knifing everything for some reason, even a line of Reapers down a narrow corridor, or a Trapper they don't have vision on, or a line of 30 dug-in high-ground shooters. Then they go downed/get trapped and leave. They put themselves in unnecessary risk and lower their efficiency and DPS by being that stubborn with the knife. Point is, that's what those nodes are for. Some of them are decent. The ranged backstab ones actually gives you some good damage increases if you shoot enemies from behind.
>>498576249Yup. It won't track stagger score but that's pretty worthless anyway. I recommend ovenproof's plugin for more useful information.
>>498576364Yep, you got it. The immediately crit chance increase is only active until you reach 100% peril. At 100% peril, you lose it, but keep the bonus stacks you accrued during it, for 10 seconds. It's pretty meme-y with the staff. I still feel that it's a gun psyker talent, even if it's technically useable with staff now.
>>498576656What are some weapons for zealot? I'm using the revolver because I don't have the bolter yet, but I'm planning on using that.
>>498576958There's no wrong answer except for vigilant autoguns.
>>498575703You still want to shoot stuff as Zealot, particularly specials. Sometimes elites too if your weapon struggles at certain things (like Heavy Sword vs Crushers or things that have a rough go at handling rager packs).
>>498576771dam thanks I'll get rid of it. I tried ovenproofs before but the layout is just actual fucking ass for readability even if you make one yourself
>>498576958Dance of death turns every autogun into lasers including braced
>>498577224The 3 round burst one's fine.
>>498576958Revolver is an amazing secondary for Zealot, so you're already doing good. It does everything you need a Zealot secondary to do, which is kill threats that can shut you down (TRAPPERS, fuck trappers), from a safe distance and quickly. Also, gives you a ranged tool to thin down lines before you go in, or to kill things you physically can't get to. >Revolver has amazing damage, so it can kill targets quickly. >It has good cleave, so you can kill targets through annoying hordes. >It has really fast wield speed, so you can swap to it in a second, which is really important to you since everything is attacking you all the time. Only thing I hate about the Revolver is it only has 5 shots. Reloading it as Zealot is always the worst. Some people are saying Bolter is now better than it, I haven't tested it that much yet. It definitely does crazy damage and has much more shots, but it's slower to wield. I think Revolver is still an A/S tier Zealot secondary after the patch.
>>498576958>revolverstylish and 1hko's snipers through enemies>bracedfor plowing through ragers>laspistol (mobility max)swap to run away and evade away from problems so you can repositionalso plays into kiting enemies that you need to kite, like ragers and bossesfantastic boss DPS tooIve carried the fuck out of the karnak twins because i swap to laspistol to run to teammates or outrun everything as well>bolteras you might suspect, a great weapon, very strong single shots>bolt pistol1st shot hipfire has perfect accuracy, and the pointblank explosion is very strong if your mainhand weapon lacks stagger/crowd control>double barrel shotgunfull spec ranged backstab is hilarious, especially paired with manstopper/cleave>flaming shotgunvery good for staggering gunners and snipers, and DPSing bosses>slug shotgunload a round to break a bulwark block on demand, the -spread on evade makes the normal shotgun shots have an ultra tight spreadi havent tried anything else
>>498573285It's fucking great, especially with middle tree taunt stuff. Anyone bad with it is probably a brainlet who can't animation cancel H1 spam and isn't using BM/Skullcrusher.
>>498578052fire shotgun is really good for stealth zealot. Let's you kill ragers from safety, kills trappers through horde, kills bulwarks with 2-3 fire shells, and you can even snipe thing with it. >Stagger snipersYep and it kills them in 2 hits too. 1 hit if you stealth before you shoot.
>>498575939Isn't it obvious? Male loner gives Melk sexual favors under his terminal, and then warns the other rejects not to accept Melk's treats.FemLoner doesn't have that line, implying Fatshark either wanted to just make MaleLoner gay or were afraid of making it seem like FemLoner was victimized by Melk.
>>498579347on principle i dont mind "bad weapon choices"I do loathe holding up the shield and staring at enemies though
>>498566371i still just go ape shit with evis and chainswordimagine playing a 40k game and using a gay dueling sword desu fr
>>498580641its the closest thing we have to a power sabre
>>498573340she is a giant tsundere bitch. in public she acts like she hates everyone and everything. but in private at the keep she crawls into kruber's bed and begs him to keep her warm.
>>498580565Well duh, that's absolute retard behavior. A shield ogryn should be on the frontlines crunching heretics, getting near infinite toughness, shoving blobs of enemies to taunt, and using regular block instead of special block to aggro shooters.
I am pretty sure now that bots deiberately trigger daemonhosts to force you to fight them.not only have fatshit adjusted their spawn spots so they are always in chokepoints and damn near impossible to avoid. but they made the bots go full retard on them.
>>498581268Never been a problem for me.
This shit is bugged, it doesn't actually track every kill. Even if you let an entire horde die purely to the dot it goes up by like 2.
>>498581991>888blood for the... emperor...
>>498581635Wow your bots must inherit some of your skill
only 6 melee weapons for ogryn, how can you peopel live like this?
Psyker has had the same 4 staves since launch
>>498583163It is what it is.
>>498583163only 1 two-hander too, sad
>>498583306one staff and then three half-staffs, really
why do people hate the Branx pickaxe?
On a voidstrike crit build is scrier's gaze even really needed? you're sitting at like 27-47% crit rate without it, depending on peril, and true aim guarantees every 5th blast is a crit anyway. surge turns every crit into 2 so a charged crit headshot pretty much kills everything but bosses in 1 hit already before scrier's damage bonus is added. I haven't played auric though so I don't know if it changes breakpoints
Isn't it the most retarded thing in this game? just a small chance to not spend ONE bullet, a node that reduce your ability cooldown, on an ability you DON'T want to spawn because your weapons eat ammo like a mf
>>498586684forgor pic I'm tired
>>498584698I too hate killing crushers in one hit.
>>498587267you can do that with the karsolas too
>>498586684ogrynomicon says its good so
>>498584701behold... my meme build. You can explode on purpose for a burst of damage and to set your peril back to 0%.
wtf are crit chains?
>>498589652Forgot to update it, but I swapped Perfectionism to Lingering Influence, since 4 seconds is way too short to keep a stack of DD.
not much what's crit chains with you
I'm too retarded to make my own builds, I really like the power sword though
>>498591546just say you like the power sword, it's shorter.
>>498586684>just a small chance to not spend ONE bulletA node turns it into a guaranteed crit and heavy stubbers crit 6 times in a row so it's not that bad.
So zealot is actually quite fun. Might be more fun than vet even.Anyway, what's the dump stat on Thunder Hammers?
>>498593481Defences
>stray a little far from the team to collect mats/ammo>character complains about being alone>WOOF WOOF WOOF WEGRGRGRGEvery single time
I for one welcome all the Executioner's stance vets in my aurics. Shout just makes it boring.
I swear this game is balanced around Vet's Survivalist aura. Without it, some idiot's bad ammo management will come to ruin you.
>>498593550Isn't that the one that governs mobility? Isn't that real important for a melee crass?
>>498593938nah mate you don't need that aura there's plenty of ammo around
In my experience shout is enough to pick up an ally, and you don't really need the talent that makes the shout itself pick them for you, at the expense of smaller aoe and longer cooldown. So far I like the larger and more frequent shouts, and I'm almost always able to shout to shove everyone away for the couple seconds it takes to pick them up. Is this other people's experience as well? Also I love the mark ability.
>>498593958As long as you get max dodges it doesn't matter. Your mobility is already tanked using the TH such that dumping other stats for defences won't make you any more mobile.
Could a psyker that mainly uses the sawed-off work? I want to meme
>>498593731im 99% sure this is supposed to be a zealot nerf, some time ago, redditors were complaining so much about zealot running ahead that fatshark put it as a "punishment" for staying out of coherency
>>498593731The game will spawn and send disablers after you if you're alone. Having the loner aura may or may not prevent it.
>>498593731For me it's Fatshark's idea that one singular dog/trapper every two minutes is a debilitating punishment.
Do coherency bonuses always apply to my character even if I'm not in coherency with anyone?
>>498596493yes
>>498594150>Is this other people's experience as well?Pretty much, yeah. Once in a blue moon you could have saved a run by shouting up two (or more, god forbid) downed retards next to one another but it's not really worth it.
>>498596057yeah get the talent that makes reload fast for peril andj ust shit out shots at high peril
>>498566079>my sissyboy zealot is taking hot loads from sire melkoh god this lore makes my penis feel good
>>498566786kruber and horizontal elfname a more iconic duo
>>498594150>>498596517taking that perk is peak dunning-kruber effect because that used to be a good thing to run in vermintide
>create a scoreboard mod that exclusively counts who got the kill>suddenly shitty 0.00001 damage weapons that hit thousands of times per second like the autogun and knife are "meta" because they steal the most kills from people actually doing the workWe might have the most retarded playerbase of all time.
>>498593731Yes, the director sends disablers on loners. Dogs are very easy for you to deal with though. Shove them when they are jumping, the hitbox is massive, they will then stumble and you can kill them. Your shove will shove them from every angle, so don't be afraid. You can even spam it at them before they pounce to ensure you get them. The unspotted Trapper is your biggest threat as a loner, as they can shoot through objects and corners, and potentially may spot and shoot at you before you spot them, giving you little time to react.
>>498598857bro the damage stat?
>>498599130Specialist kills and kills are tracked seperately and count FAR more than your damage stat. Infact the scoreboard mod penalizes you for having high damage by subtracting points if you do too much. "Overkill damage" my ass.
>>498597683>name a more iconic duothe poxburster jumping at you from around a corner
>>498599225Count how? And how does it "penalize" you? This is all in your mind... get a GRIP, anon!
>>498584176what staffs are good, looking for a good pysker build in general since im new to the class and bored of veteran
>>498599225>pointsGenerate scores: off
>>498599736I literally explained how. "Overkill damage" aka what naturally happens when you use a high damage weapon to horde clear is counted as a grey marker. Grey markers subtract offense points the higher they are. Like the times you've been downed, or damage taken.Specialist and Unique kills are yellow markers. Yellow markers mean you get more points the higher they are.These are the basics of how the scoreboard mod works. Are you retarded? The knife and shitty autogun are "meta" because they let you get the most killsteals and inflate your score.
>>498600064I don't use the scoreboard mod so of course I don't know how it works. There's no scoreboard in the base game. The only thing that matters is how well you play, not how high your numbers are.
>>498599225>pointswho cares loli only look at damage done, damage taken, and elites/specials killed
>>498598857in what world are the autoguns bad
>>498599225>Specialist kills and kills are tracked seperately and count FAR more than your damage stat.Yeah but I shot all the specials and elites in the face.
>running exec stance>guy accuses me of being mad at him for stealing ammo because I keep shooting through himWhen will they learn about wallhax?
>see new combat trial feature in the creature spawner mod>select melee pressure: easy>eat shit and die>eat shit and die again>and again
>>498598978>Shove them when they are jumping, the hitbox is massive, they will then stumble and you can kill themUnless they don't because Fatshark. The number of dogs I've shoved only to have them fucking ignore it is definitely in the mid double digits. Usually it happens when they're trying to run past me and go for someone else, but it infuriates me regardless.
>>498598857If you actually looked at the damage stat, you would notice that those weapons also do good damage. Moron
>>498603471Pushing dogs is pretty consistent nowadays and the push range is generous. It's no where near how it was at launch, it was probably a 5-tick window of opportunity to push the fuckers.
>>498604080It's definitely easier, but I disagree about the consistency when the dodges aren't leaping at you. If you push them while they're simply traveling, I find it more hit or miss.
>>498604149>dodges aren't leapingdogs*Fuck me
>>498598857that isn't how shit works how about you use a weapon that actually does damage nigga
>>498604149you probably just don't enough stamina when that happens tbqhwy, can't relate to this at all with my 1300 hours
>>498594150yeah same experience. being able to use the shout more freely gives it much more utility. keystone is decent with redirect fire but I'm seriously considering just ditching it, don't really need veteran keystones and I feel like I can boost my damage output much more without it.
>>498604149Oh that's true. It's not limited to pushing them either, sometimes they just ignore some sources of stagger. Sometimes if they hit Psyker's shield wall they will keep charging through.
>>498604149dogs are immune to stagger while doing parkour animations, it may not be obvious/sensical but it is 100% consistent
>push poxburster>there is a dog behind it>the dog leaps at you>it pushes the poxburster towards you
I take more damage from poxbursters, flamers, and barrels exploding in my face than all other sources
>>498605043>push poxburster>instead falling back he does a weird turn and falls diagonally forward>blows up the whole teamThankfully it happens rarely, but what an absolute fucking bullshit
>>498605043>there are two poxbursters coming at you>the first one glitches out and decides he's starting his detonation 2 seconds before he dives, but you push him just barely in time>the second one decides he's just not diving, so he walks towards you and gets just right in range to be damaged by the first one, detonating him, but also be too far to push away in time
>>498599225>subtracting pointsScore is 100% retarded, just disable that shit and look and stats directly. In fact disable all pointless stats like "enemies staggered" or "materials looted" or "healing used". All you need is:>damage taken>damage dealt>kills breakdown
What's the point of the chainaxe variant where you just bash it into the target, it doesn't even saw into the enemy, and it does no damage?
>>498605874The mkIV? It's reversed, you use lights for heavy targets and heavies for hordes.
>>498605874>does no damagethats where you're wrong it kills mixed hordes extremely well with the lights. I love it on wep specialist vet to make it go fast
two-handed chainaxe wa doko desu ka
>>498606156No, the mark XII. It doesn't seem to be good for anything.
>>498606218It's theoretically better at one-shotting elites with a Thrust heavy but yes its generally worse as prioritizing survival and low commitment is more desirable. You could say that it is good for bashing away horde stragglers quickly, where the mark 4 requires either a wind up or being a little stuck-in with the light attacks.
Hello, so I'm fairly new to darktide and became a Psyker. I love my bubble build with a bit of using a inferno staff or even voidstrike with pure crit build. What I'm wondering is, how do I even be able to get the Trauma staff? I've seen a cool build of it that I wanna use, but I tried finding it in the shop and I can not find it. Did they take it out or is there a certain mission I gotta do several times. I'm max level on my Psyker in 2-3 days. Any advice would help.
>>498604149wait until they ready their pounce, then shove. Very simple and it never fails me.
>>498606753They changed the name this patch, no one understands why. It's now the voidblast staff which you might mix up with voidstrike. Purgatus became inferno and surge became electro if you want to look up old builds for them too. Not much has changed in how you build any of them.
>>498606636>mark 4 requires either a wind upJust start combo with a pushattack. And mix in pushattacks anytime you feel pressured by the horde. Works like a charm.
>>498606884>It's now the voidblast staff which you might mix up with voidstrike.And the fact that their models are almost identical also doesn't help.
>playing chaos wastes>teammates all vote for cRiT pOwEr instead of +pilgrims coins and +40% monster power.it was a mess. I hope that they're just newfags instead of simply retards. I don't know how anyone couldn't have gotten the memo that crit power is mathematically worthless.
>hear poxburster approaching>catch a brief glimpse of it through the horde>use this and the sound cues to time a shove despite not being able to see it>a smigger lightnings for exactly 0.5 seconds causing me to shove before its in range>get blown off a ledge
>>498607680doesn't the animation reset after the lightning? it's not like it continues from where it left off before getting stunned
>>498607680But smiggers lightnings pushes them back on their own.
>>498607849No, smiggering it knocks it down and then it explodes shortly thereafter.
Swear to God there is a new giant influx of fucking shithead smiggers who only exist because they think "Well I'm one of the good ones." I played almost 20 rounds today and there was a smigger in more than half of them, sometimes two. I literally played with a guy named "OnlySmiting." I hate them but I hate Fatshark more for creating the ability, holy fuck I hate Swedes.
can't wait to log on and smite a bit today
Is there any reason at all to take the ogryns taunt whem the push/block to taunt exists? Seems pointless. They should tack on ironbreaker-tier damage reduction if they want it useable
>>498608763You're reminding me why I'm playing ratclick instead of shopclick. It was impossible to avoid the smiggers. They're litterally not contributing with the smigging unless there are 20 crushers on the screen. I honestly think they should make non-elites immune to smigging just as a FUCK YOU to the smiggers.
>>498608923>They should tack on ironbreaker-tier damage reduction if they want it useableNah, it should force all shooter that has you in their LoS into melee.
>>498608923People who gravitate towards support roles often do it to make up for their perceived dogshitness at video games. Instead of striving to improve they accept they'll always be bad but can help their teammates do good. So they often go thoroughly overboard grabbing every skill or ability highlighted for supports without crunching the numbers. Charge is flat out better at crowd control than the AoE taunt, allowing you to rush to teammates aid or overextend safely on top of knocking entire hordes down. But the AoE taunt is tailor made for support builds and they'll think no further.t. knew too many support mains in my life.
>>498608763>>498608904I've been doing my smite penance yesterday and it was fucking painful. Smite feels so useless. I've tried using it with empowered psyonics + gaze, but it still does no damage. I've tried using as "oh shit"-button, but it's too slow and clumsy and you can't really smite your way out when you're already swarmed. I suppose it can be useful for locking down big group of crushers from safe position, but that's pretty specific outside of scab-only mission — and if I'd need a tool to lock down crusher groups I'd rather go with trauma.In the end I just cheesed it solo with many more try.
>>498514127How come vraks autogun is so fucking good without having a single decent blessing? I want to enjoy it but having to run dumdum and firefrenzy which barely even matters pisses me the fuck off. Other blessings literally do NOTHING for the gun
>>498609349>People who gravitate towards support roles often do it to make up for their perceived dogshitness at video gamesI've also known many support mains, my experiences correlate with your's, they do it because they can't perform in an actual role.It is possible to be a good support role though, and being a proper force multiplier for the rest of the team, but that takes the same kind of effort to improve that could be put to a main role.
>>498609349I want to disagree because I always want supports in MMOs or co-op RPGs that give you a multitude of choices, forcing you to choose between which thing (CC, healing, buffing, debuffing, damaging) is best for any given moment. I think that would be peek support gameplay and require a good bit of knowledge and experience to capitalize on. But that's not reality, and sadly, I can't disagree with you. It seems to almost always end up being the most braindead thing instead.
>>498609349That tracks honestly. I love playing support roles personally but games like this make it pretty clear what's actually usefulI started playing like from the last sale and im already wondering what the fuck fartshart is thinking with the rumbler and the taunt's existence
>>498609717>>498609897the matter of the fact is that if your first thought playing any game is to gravitate towards a support role, you'll never ever be good or decent at it. most players that play a dps/frontline lane and move onto supp when they understand the game fundamentally do infinitely better and actually know what their teams require of them. what most 'supports' do is sit in the back, spam a cc/heal and think theyre helping without understanding the whys of what theyre doing
>>498608763Apologize.
>>498609717which is a shamebecause the best support in the game right now is>be vet>have a big mean gun>mark targets your team are attacking>shoot them in their stupid face>watch as you battle the enemy's attempts to deplete toughness with your efforts to keep that shit topped off>all because you can be bothered to stop what youre doing and shoot shit in the face for your teamI once had someone deign to tell me i was retargeting things too often, when al i was doing was remarking targets most accessible to all of my team, or just shooting things dead too fast for it to seem like i had killed them and reaped the extra toughness/staminavet is just too based
>>498608923the more damage boost is nice. Combine with other damage boosts like Ogryn's Soften Them Up and/or a Vet's focus target, to team murder scab captains or monsters that much faster.
>>498610007Okay, anon. Enjoy your headcanon. It's not like I explicitly said that I was disappointed supports in games weren't more challenging and didn't require more game knowledge to play well.
>>498608923>run up to group of shooters that are moderately spread out>press taunt>now they're locked in melee and will run up to you to be hit
>>498607680thats why you immediately tag anything that can end a run
>>498608763bruh i just wanna be a sith lord but smite is so boring purely because it doesn't actually "smite" them
>>498610717bruh fr fr bruh bruh fr no cap
>>498610642nta but sometimes i dont mark specifically because i dont want some retard fucking me over
>>498610309>what support players think they should play: smite psyker, shield ogryn, chorus zealot>what's actually the ideal support: fucking everything vet has to offerShout is obviously busted at keeping the team alive, moving, and killing. Marksman is solid too at keeping gunners off, though it lacks a panic button escape tool. Even stealth is perfect at picking downies up. And all of this is complemented by an offensively offensive catalog of talents that let any build shit damage and top scoreboards.
>>498515834if only friendly fire was real
>finally try smite after being a brain burst fag for months>charging takes like 1 second, can be held down infinitely, and can't blow yourself up with it when you hit max perilwhat the fuck. this is just ridiculous, when will fatshark make BB not total dogshit compared to smite and assail? and no, I will not take empowered psionics.
I will stand for just about any sort of faggotry from kniggers to toonkgryn.But when I see someone who still clearly hasn't bound dodge and jump to different keys and thus fucking jumps after every single dodge, I seethe.
>>498610378the premise is a fallacy as when you play any game as a role thats not a support role, the support role will always be made extremely easy/unchallenging by default. the role isnt braindead, its usually just braindead in comparison. also, there will always be an optimal way to do things, your multiple choice wishlist exists in games its just that one playstyle usually eclipses the rest
>>498609717Depends on the game, but in my experience normally it's DPS that are dime a dozen and that good tanks and healers are worth their weight in gold. The good ones are fluent in the mechanics of the fight, know when to pre-emptively buff teammates with shields or damage reduction buffs to negate damage spikes, track the positions and health states of multiple teammates and can triage to know when it's worth blowing a cooldown to save someone from a mistake and when it's better to cut them off and let them die to preserve the integrity of the party as a whole.Then there are "healers" which are just some guy's girlfriend who spams heals at one person.
>>498610856I am that guy. I keep trying to master myself but every now and then I jump like a retard. what do you have it bound to.
>>498611310Space is dodge, left alt is jump.
>>498611310>>498610856for me i like to switch weapons oftenso its only really an issue if i switch from something like a las pistol or a knife, to a fucking heavy weapo nor something
shut the FUCK UP DUKANE YOUR ACCENT FUCKING SUCKS HOLY SHITFatshark must have just gotten lucky with their VA choices in VT2
>>498609349I've noticed console players in games with crossplay tend to be the underlying issue where they're completely braindead and an active detriment. Starship Troopers is a great example, since they're seemingly unable to do anything but prioritize the chaff close enough to dribble piss on their shoes but the half the team is constantly dropping dead because Gunners/Infernos/Grenadiers in the distance are being completely ignored, and you end up losing the mission because they can't seem to understand the spawn pool is limited and everyone uses it
>>498610007I've known some pure support players that are godlike at their jobs and never tanked or played DPS. But they also seriously did their research about the game to learn everything that you said, just secondhand rather than firsthand. I've even known a couple that did the inverse where they were good healers but then swapped to tanking or DPS because they wanted an easier job.
>>498611615consoleniggers are a blight. They are the worst possible mix of inattentiveness, subpar controls, and hot mics.
>>498611858>retard sony makes games default to hot mic>installs the world's most powerful vibrator near the micsony really dropped off after the PS3
>>498610856i am playing as fatshark indented.
>>498611858To be fair, when it comes to bad controls in co-op games, that feels more like a Darktide-exclusive thing than anything else. I've got PC friends who use gamepads that I play Helldivers and Space Marine 2 with and they're perfectly good teammates. Honestly unless they told me, I'd have never known. But Darktide's gamepad support from what I've been told is utter dog shit. It slathers multiple vital inputs across the d-pad, you can't customize the controls beyond presets, and the aim assist is antithetical to how horde shooters work to the point people willing to use gamepads disable it completely.
>>498611310Mouse button 4 for dodge.>inb4 he doesn't have a couple thumb mouse buttons in 2000+24Do you still have a ball mouse too, gramps?
>>498612143i have the thumb buttons for sp weapon attacksim not putitng a freaking dodge next to itso ill just have to git gudder
>>498611310I have dodge on space and jump on C
How would you change/rework smite so that it would be useful and not annoying to play with?
>>498612241Mouse 5 is indeed my weapon special. Works fine
>>498611310For me it's shift for dodge, alt for slide, space for jump.
>>498612257remove the stun and increase its damage
>>498584698Branx is unironically too slow for me, the horde clear rotation is fucking awkward>Heavy attack>Follow with light>Input doesn't register because your heavy animation is still going or something?>have to restart comboReal shame, deleting a Crusher is always a good time
>>498612128How I'd solve Darktide's gamepad control issues>First, you've now got an option where everything is custom bindable>Combine multiple inputs into single buttons via contextual presses>Combine Blitz and your Special Ability into one button>Single press is your Blitz>Double rapid tap is your Special>Other button when held gives you a radial menu where you access stims, health kits/ammo kits/grimoires and auspex scan. While the radial window is open, each of these items is assigned to a face button>Single tapping the button auto-equips the last item you selected in the radial window>Double tapping that same button marks enemiesThis is a collective 5 inputs now consolidated down into 2 buttons. It's that simple, and I know for a fact it'd make Darktide feel less like shit when I play it on my Xbox in my camper via Starlink.
who made darktide's cosmetics?
>>498612257Remove the bit where it takes time for the effect to charge up. Make it instantly stun and knock back the enemies. Those enemies are now visibly shocked and slowed with a debuff. Enemies shocked this way are immune to further stuns/knock backs from smite, but each smite resets the timer in the slow debuff. Also, purely out of spite for smiggers smigging groaners, they should completely remove the damage component. Or maybe just leave token damage on it.
After playing with both the flamer and purg staff a bunch I have concluded that you are a shitter retard if you bring these weapons into my aurics. You're useless 80% of the time when there are real threats on the screen.
>>498613037NXA Studios, a chinese companyhttps://www.nxastudios.com/
>>498612257Several things:> instant zaps instead of "channeling"> left click = stuns one enemy> charged click = chain between 2-5 enemies depending on chargeThis would "free" psykers from being locked into smiting animation.> enemies zapped by smited remain stunned for several secondsThis would allow psykers to do something to those enemies instead of relying solely on teammates.> make it ammo-based like assail> ~3 charges by default, regenerate over timeThis would prevent spamming it all the time regardless of situation.
>>498613313I consider ragers a real threat and their stunlocking then rapid removal to be useful personally
>>498611275Would you prefer a bad dps or a good support if you only could take one?
that's a strange poster to be at bus station
Bros, I have VT2 now but I don't know how well the OCE community in it is doing, are we still flourishing?
>>498615080Hate is encouraged in the Imperium instead of acceptance, being accepting is allowing Chaos into your heart.
>>498613313Let's be completely fucking transparent here. You don't play aurics. You've never seen what a high intensity mission looks like. It's no wonder then that you don't understand how powerful the flamer is.
>>498615857Slav coded post
>>498615917How did you know?
>>498615956typical snownigger shit banter
>>498615080what's strange is you not hating heretics
>>498615438to whit, the literal 'armour of contempt' its not flowery language. utter inimical detestation of heresy and chaos is one of the things that can assist in resisting it.that and of course, a devout and fervent belief in the Emporer and His Works.
>>498616046TAKE IM TO ZE INTERREGATORS!
>>498613313lol retard
>>498615857lol. It always makes me laugh when flamertards are upset when being told they're factually useless. I'm so much better than you it's unreal.
>>498616987If you spent as many hours playing as you spent afk in the lobby you'd know the flamer is the strongest ranged weapon in the game.
>I have 1000+ hours in this game>I'm a good player
Will Pablo load into the mourningstar today?
>>498616987All the sweatiest speedrunning discord trannies swear by the flamer but i am sure you, the retard with 1k hours in quickplay knows better
>>498616987Fatshart has learnt nothing from ratclick. People have been bitching about flamers being either useless or detrimental (because of "muh grey hp") for ages. And yes, "but it's good in legend" and then "but it's good in cata" and then "but it's good in dwons" — all the same cope was there as well.
>>498616987Imagine trying to flex your afk hours.
>IT'S STRONG! IT'S STRONG! I'M NOT A SHITTER I'M NOT!flamershitter melty uh oh
>>498613313imagine being so bad you struggle with the easiest weapons in the game
>>498618402whole thread agreed on the fact you're a shitter. it's ok you're anonymous you don't have to commit to your shit take.
>>498618156it's a different game with different balance lolsome other weapons that are dogshit in vermintide but good in darktide include the notConflagaration staff and the axe
A shield! Don't argue, it is!
>learned that combat ability regen on curios makes cooldown reduction talents less efficientboo
>>498613313How come I always finish with more damage and more enemies killed than you then?>nooooo it doesn't count because you use the flamer!lmao
>>498618716>it's a different game with different balance lolYeah, but flamers are pretty much the same. With the same niche and almost the same arguments for and against it.
>>498621776>With the same nichenot at all, in vermintide they can't kill anything in a reasonable amount of time except slaves. In darktide they kill everything except crushers and bosses. Plus in vermintide they overheat and you have to worry about missing out on temp hp.
do people take books in darktide at all?
>>498622636people will pick them up if they see them but no one usually goes out of their way looking for them, at least not in aurics, since all they do is give a nominal amount of dockets at the end
>>498622770what a pathetic and dogshit game darktide is
>>498622878whoa settle down buddy
>>498622636during "events" yes
Do psykers exist only to drag the team down?
>>498623030When you're playing one yeah.
>>498622636No, I have both penances
>>498622878as others have pointed out, same as VT2>pc release>xbox release>ps release>finally obesefish start producing actual content
>>498623124books actually had a purpose in vt2 plus they were more fun to get
>>498623196yeah but you're talking a studio that released the wrong version as an update and was clueless about it for like two months and wondering why players compained about stuff that was "fixed"Sweden
>>498623379the true sin of fatshark is releasing darktide in such a terrible state after 7 years of vermintide franchise updatesunbelievable nonsensekeep buying commodore skins, they must be rewarded for their complete ineptitude
>>498623196And you don't need to search for them, just learn the location and remember it.
>>498615286anyone?
>>498625254exactly, that was perfect, some being behind simple jumping puzzles was fun because the movement feels gooddarktide has puzzles for the skulls, I was really hoping there would be a reason to collect them every round but you can only collect them once
>>498625335Sorry bud, I don't think you'll have much luck in OCE. Most of the players are in NA and EU.
The chainaxe just feels so right in the zealot's hands. Things fall over and get stunned and die so quite right.
>>498626624You should try using the crusher.
>>498627041It doesn't kill stuff as fast as the chainax
>>498626475god please no
>>498627243You will play with ruskies and you will like it.
>>498627220Shove attack into light. Try it and compare the single target damage, stagger, speed and availability.
Is Darktide NA East more active than NA West? It's only like 30 more ping for me and NA West seems to actually die completely in the off hours, but every time I've swapped it to East I still didn't queue very quickly
>>498627821FUCKING NOOOO
we could've had sisters, but fatshark chose ugliness
>>498628921Could?
>>498629214>that one face>that one haircut>that one face tattoo>LOOK I MADE A SISTERNo. You made a disappointment.
>>498629340retard
>>498629340absolute mongol
Chain axe is so fucking cool and satysfying. How to make it not fucking suck on auric tho? Vet btw
>>498629340Anon, I get that irony on the internet can be hard to grasp...
>>498629340Go to bed anon
Every time I see a SoB cosplayer I know for sure they're a gamer and we're gonna have fun.
>>498629465>>498629509>>498629649>>498629669I don't get what you're all complaining about, it's not like you can do much better by actually making it female, it's still the same body type
>>498629608you don't use the chainaxe on vet nor psyker, they're only good on zealots.
>>498629608It's pretty sick with slaughter and headtaker blessingsDefinitely good enough for auric on vet
Instead of the shitty custom characters, who would your Tertium 5 (or 4) be?
Every time I see a SoB cosplayer they go down 5 times and every time it makes me horny
i got darktide 3 days ago after 1k hours of ratclick and im loving duelling sword zealot, scoreboard mod tells me i'm carrying every other gamewhat weapon do i use instead if i want to be able to kill everything in melee without using the obivously OP gigarapier
>>498629756That's bait.
>inserted into a Rolling Steel mission in progress>it's a guaranteed lossFAT SHARK
>>498629782Which mark and what attack combos?
>>498613313noob.
>>498629837Assuming you still want to keep the ability to stack multiple classes while making them 4 preset personalities that people pick between L4D style, 4 guardsmen.Assuming you want to do it exactly like Vermintide 2 did it, two guardsmen, a psyker, and a sister of battle.
>>498629871Crusher, the big mace
>>498629837a commissar, an imperial guardsman, a sister of battle, a catachan and an ogryn
The simple truth of the matter about these>x is bad! never bring x to my games!posts is that the posters are shitters who need to get carried. Nobody else even pays attention what others are using
>>498629872the "one pretty female face" looks like a young man, and the female body in this game is just a male body distorted somewhat to barely give it a chest and hips
>>498630028trvkepeople with weird builds are to be giggled at to yourself when you see them in game. if you can't carry a deadweight, you're in no position to complain about shitters
>>498629949I prefer Mk IV, the one that bites on light attacks.Light attacks or rev attacks for single target. Heavy attacks when fighting blobs of enemies. Those 2 blessings help a lot.
>>498630020>and an ogrynno
>>498630028Just played a game where the sole dead player started whinging about everyone elses loadouts so I'm inclined to believe this. Won effortlessly btw
>>498630020replace ogryn with an ork
>>498630028This is the correct take.
How do people run the Bolt Pistol. I'm on vet, been trying to run it with Puncture and lethal proximity, it's okay but not really sure I get the appeal.
>>498630170you can inspect peopel loadouts when you're dead? I'm genuenly asking I rarely die
>>498630156the ogryn is the only interesting character in darktide>>498630193no.
oh my fucking god i died again. its because my team couldnt peel for me. now lets spectate and see whose fault it is that i got killed by 4 bruisers...
>>498630230weapon specialist with the +25% dmg boost when you swtch weapon after a kill, I mostly use it in melee to swap refrsh the buff, it's kino gameplay
>>498630239ah yes, let's have a look at the ogryn personalities>I'M DA STRONGEST AND DA MEANEST AND UH, I FORGOT WHAT WE WUZ DOIN HEREtwo of those and uhhhh>BREAKFASTwow, you've got ogrynbrain irl I think
>>498630375yeah dude i love the other 3 humans with the exact same animations and weapons
>>498630349Noted, I'll have to give that a try, thanks!
>>498630231Probably just looked at their weapons and abilities. My favorite episode was a 7 wound knife zealot who died, and then started talking shit about people who only had 2 wounds but were still alive.
>>498630375>ogres are so boring I wish we had an elf insteadkill yourself theyre meant to be mundane and simple minded and its what makes them good. If you cant appreciate ogres youre a spiritual eunuch
>>498630326>peel
>>498629837Guardsman for the default shooty everymanSister of Battle for rip and tearEldar with warp abilitiesMechanicus guy full of gimmicksOgryn for heavy weapons and comic reliefThe narrative would obviously have to change from a suicide squad to a proper kill team but gameplay wouldn't have to change much, the rejects already do stupid insane shit
>>498630230For me the appeal is the fast swap speed into one big damage shot. Like the other anon said, try weapon specialist. You only need 3 melee kills for a guaranteed critical hit on your next ranged attack.
>>498578013Bolt pistol is a side grade to the revolver, really.Its a tiny bit more unwieldy in that it cannot pierce, and feels like it's a bit worse at armor/not as much instant damage and the sights mcfuckingblow, however it dumps a fuckton of suppression and reloads significantly faster, both are fairly invaluable and worth the trade off. Its very nice to pop a few shots in the direction of gunners and just give yourself space.
which heavy stubber is the good one
>>498629340Excellent bait, sir.
>>498630617Fuck I wish we had that, I mean we could be a Rogue Trader squad instead of rejects
>>498630230use run n gun instead of proximity, the 30% spread reduction from firing from the hip is great and yeah like anon said run it with weapons specialist and focus on melee
>>498630743Kantreal
does the plasma gun even have any weaknesses? it feels ridiculously good
>>498629214Accurate to the modern GW depiction of Sororitas.
>>498631007most breakpoints rely on headshots and it receives little to no benefit from survivalist aura, other than that no, it's insanely strong
>>498631023why is she black?
>>498631007it gets a lower percentage of ammo for each pick up than other guns sometimes other characters will complain about you taking ammo when you're not even full because of this since other guns would've gotten enough to waste some
>>498631023>Enough is ENOUGH! I've had it with these motherfucking heretics on this motherfucking planet!
>>498631007It is ridiculously good.
>>498631023that's Mike Tyson in a wig
>>498631147Imperium does not see raceunless your skin color is absent from the palette of officially sanctioned tones, then you are a mutant and must die
It's been kinda fun going back to the bolter after using the plasma gun for so long, that said I wish the bolter was just a little bit more viable, would probably be fine if they could fix the ADS bullshit really. Even after the small nerf the plasma gun is still nuts though.
>>498631023
>>498631348boltgun is extremely viable, arguably veteran's second best weapon
>>498631403Might be a skill issue on my end then. Find it just a bit too unwieldy at times.
>>498631023>heh let's make something thats obviously extremely unfitting just because we technically can lore wise>heh it never said anywhere that sororitas can't be ugly black baboon niggers (even though they're obviously meant to look a certain way design wise and it's not that) modern GW and actually most modern designers in a nutshell. It feels like malicious compliance almost. Just take the loosest interpretation of the thing and then make something that fits it by the words but obviously not in spirit
>>498631086>>498631170ok but survivalist is the only aura worth taking anyway at least for your team, no? other ones force you to take krak grenade or smoke wich are useless
>>498630737>Its a tiny bit more unwieldy in that it cannot pierceIt does pierce a little bit, just not as much as revolver
>>498631746fuck the team
>>498630743Achlys. The one that shoots the fastest. Fast equip time and best synergy with talents. And when you tap or burst fire it it's quite accurate.
>>498631834ok but doesn't change my point
>>498631746yes, zealots and ogryns appreciate it a lot
>>498630743Achlys is fast and lightweight and lends itself well to fire luggerI enjoy the heavy ass gorgonum too though for different reasons. It's a bit more ammo efficient and punches through armor a bit but it doesn't make good use of the fire debuff so it loses out overall but I have fun with it
>>498631023Our Martyred Lady's signature bleached hair is caused by a mutation.It's perfectly plausible to have a nigger as a sob with perfect white hair.
>>498631746you can go sideways in the talent tree so you're not locked into a specific grenade+aura combination
>>498570276Instead of fun, soulful lines like these we get little niggers bitching you out because you picked up some ammo while they were 2 bullets into yellow.
>>498632314Do you really think when people see unfitting ugly shit like this their issue with it is that it's implausible? To begin with why is your gut reaction to defend this?
>>498630617>>498630812We could've had this but instead we go this lame as fuck suicide squad rejects. Rogue trader kill team would've had so much more possible variety (that fatshark wouldn't do shit with because they're lazy)>ogryn appearance/voice can be changed to ork while keeping the weapons/talents>eldar weapons
>>498570029>Everyone should be fine with a scoreboard if it was just opt-inNah, it would be shit. If by "opt-in" you mean that you simply have the ability to disable scoreboard for you (but the other players would still see your performance), then people will start bitching about "muh toxicity". If it's "opt-in" in a sense that you'd have to check "allow players to access my combat stats" box, then we would pointless scoreboards where you could only see yourself.
>>498632875>>ogryn appearance/voice can be changed to ork while keeping the weapons/talentsI dont disagree that the reject angle is shit but you discredit your own argument saying shit like this. Ive liked ogryns since dow and theyre nothing like orks. Its just that people who would rather have orks pretend that theyre orks, just like how everyone pretends our veteran can become a commissar
>>498632976>Nah, it would be shit. If by "opt-in" you mean that you simply have the ability to disable scoreboard for you (but the other players would still see your performance), then people will start bitching about "muh toxicity"That is literally how it works right now and nobody bitches
>Armageddon Steel Legion cosplayer yelling "For Cadia!"Immersion ruined
>>498630617What the fuck. Now I'm sad that we don't have this.
I don't mind the reject angle desu.But I think a rogue trader kill team is a superior idea, as it offers even more creative freedom. Darktide already has a fair bit of freedom by GW 40k standards, considering all the guns and abilities we get. But being stuck in one hive city on one world is a bit limiting.
>>498630617can you imagine copeg in that timeline? "wtf Eldar faggot taking all the ammo post Sister feet plz"
I kind of dont want rogue trader players, theyre too unique which takes away from it for me. I enjoyed how kruber was just a merc etc. I think that an actual enforcer team couldve maintained their "low fantasy" angle while still being more interesting than rejects
>>498633040>ork bad because I prefer to roleplay my ogryn as an orkWhat the fuck did he mean by this?
>>498532351I feel like a genius using these blessings
>>498633489Doesn't have to be rogue trader squad, it's enough to just drop the "reject" part and let people be a proper Inquisition squad — it wouldn't really be too weird for any mishmash of characters to be a part of Inquisition squad. Except maybe Eldar.
>>498633519Eldar feet > sister feet
>>498633884lorelet here, can the Inquisition recruit eldars? I thought there were all "xenos bad" ?
>>498633884i'd be happy either way. Hated Eldar since dow1 so i don't mind them being excluded.
>>498633984Delete this.
Auric is definitely fun, I'm doing more.
I NEED A PLAYABLE ORK NOW!
>>498634026they can, but 99.99999% would never
>>498633872are you under the influence or just actually this bad at reading simple sentences?
>>498634090>>498634214TOO LATE RETARDHA HA HA!
How many matches do you guys play a day?
>>4986346843
>>498634626>australian>anime avatar>dbd player
>>498633562I think they just meant that the players work for rogue traders..
>>498634626>>498634774AAIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>498634902i bet you posted your killeroid 4k postgame screens in /assg/
>>498634753That's my max too. More than that feels exhausting..
>>498635000Only when I had someone cry about me slugging them.Also I haven't played DBD since July after losing interest in it, it's pretty much dead on OCE.
>>498635127>it's pretty much dead on OCEcomplete and utter horseshit, 80% of all dbd streamers are from that godforsaken island.
>>498632976>If it's "opt-in" in a sense that you'd have to check "allow players to access my combat stats" box, then we would pointless scoreboards where you could only see yourself.I want it. The people who opt to hide their stats will instantly become a bullied group and it would be hilarious.
>>498635184It's fucking dead to me.
>>498635327>The people who opt to hide their stats will instantly become a bullied group and it would be hilarious.this is what yellow number retards actually believe
>>498635397by daylight...?
>>498635437bruh
Why you didn't take the ammo aura, vet-cunt? you know I AM the specialist sniper in the team...
>>498635401If you're good at the game, what have you got to hide?
>>498635401Shitter identified.
>>498635654fuck off, you knife-eared cunt
>>498635654Aqshylly my scoreboard mod begs to differ.
>>498635401I'm fine with a scoreboard, if I'm doing shit, I'll know and can learn from my mistakes.
Pox Gas missions are cancer
>>498635962Yeah. They're too easy with all the extra health stimms. Free victories shouldn't be handed out like that.
>just pick random darktide streamer on twitch>kill counters>damage numbers>enemy health bars>special spawn indicator why are they like this?
>>498635765>mechanicunt believes he carry the team with his rad riflemany such cases
>>498631746Krak is a fire and forget way to take out crusher packs, saves me 2 nodes, and stun locks monsters. Of the BoN or Chaos Spawn pick someone up, instant freedom witht the nade. Smoke is useless and I chop through hordes like grass so all the other nades arent worth 2 points. Sure plasma can kill crushers but it costs ammo and a krak is free. Plus damage aura is better for my melee since I go shout weapon spec plasma
I miss the infected 21st modifier.
>>498636279https://www.youtube.com/@demonie__You don't need other streamers.
>>498636351There were only so many in the 21st and we killed millions of them. I was hitting around 400 a round theres no way there are any left
>>498636337What breakpoints does the damage aura let you reach?
>>498636548ALL OF THEM!ALL!
>>498636548>>498636337I should add that no the damage aura is not better than free resources if you cannot answer that question.
Post your plasma gun build if you're so clever.
>>498636247I think they still nerfed amount of stims
>>498635682>>498635697>>498635782retarded niggers that have never played ratclick
>>498636432based
>>498636548Rashad crusher 3 hits, I can change the build to get 2 hits for 10 seconds after shouts, without it Im 18 off 1 shotting ragers on crits, and 2 body shotting I think it was for the maniac ones, It lets me kill maulers in 2 sshots as well. Its been a while since I ran the numbers but I was 36 12 and 17 off three breakpoints without it not that Ive run rashad for months. It lets me ignore the ogryn node on the tac axe revolver build Im running right now, but only on 2.5 seconds after a kill.
>>498636432I don't speak korean
>>498636337>Krak is a fire and forget way to take out crusher packsAt most you're taking out 3, but that's if there's already so many more enemies they're overlapping. Usually you're taking out 1, and that's assuming your team didn't kill it before they even heard the grenade prime. If you're alone you're not taking out an entire crusher pack just with kraks. Occasionally they'll save your ass, and they can be great for taking out reapers or helping with a crusher chasing a teammate on the other end of a room, but their practical use case is so limited.>but it costs ammo and a krak is free.A krak costs you not having shredders which are a fire and forget way to stun and cripple an entire horde.
>>498637251Not a problem as you only have to listen korean
As far as the Ogryn goes, are there any standout melee weapons for clearing hordes?
>>498637336
>>498636337Veteran damage aura also stacks with psyker elite aura for 12.5% damage against elites, not bad.
>>498636820>muh green circle>muh yellow numbers
>>498636432queen...
>>498633213>That is literally how it works right now and nobody bitchesbecause, believe it or not, the proportion of the playerbase that uses mods is still very small
>>498637395ShieldPickaxeFolding shovel
>>498637276I dont need more horde clear thats literally the easiest thing in the game and meleeing hordes is fun. The only time there is ever an ammo shortage is if there is a gunlugger scavenger is no longer an issue. The only time I personally have ammo issues on plasma is if Im the only one with elite killing ranged weapons in a really bad melee elite centered game.
>>498637456retard lets see how long it takes to get it
>>498637276I can cripple an entire horde by shooting it if I have to.
>>498619921Wha
actual content doko?
>>498638282>>498638282>>498638282>>498638282>>498638282MIGRATE
>>498638091Anniversary in 2 months, surely the new class will be ready by then.
>>498613313You realize you're talking about your own performance with the flamer here?
sneed
>>498633223Do people really cosplay as the Steel Legion? Aren't they just discount Kriegsmen?
>>498524741I have some steam friend who plays VT1 regularly, but hates VT2.
what makes the dueling sword so good?
What melee weapon do you use with your boltgun vet build? I use a chainsword to stay iconic.
>>498661914my balls
