Not my problem Edition >Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-15-2024-update.38925/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>498636132
shivniggers kill yourselves
tp scroll whenbuyback when
sex with paradox
Imagine intentionally playing a SHOOTER moba and saying "no it doesnt need to play anything like a shooter"
>>498692525>tp scroll whenunnecessary due to ziplines and teleporters>buyback whenwould drag games out massively
If we don't lock them down, we're as good as dead
Day 7 of waiting for Vindicta to get reverted
DISGUSTAN CREATURR
>>498692432i never had a problem with shivprobably because he's on my team going 1-12 by 18 mins
>>498692403>the dominant skill in every moba is always going to be macro, followed very closely by positioningmight as well remove manual aiming completely at that point
TOTAL HAZE LOVE. HAND HOLDING WITH HAZE. DANCING WITH HAZE. CUDDLING WITH HAZE. SNUGGLING WITH HAZE IN BED. KISSING HAZE. SWAPPING SALIVA WITH HAZE. MARRIAGE WITH HAZE. HAZE IN A BEAUTIFUL WEDDING DRESS. MATING WITH HAZE. IMPREGNATING HAZE. HAZE GIVING BIRTH TO OUR SMOKE CHILDREN. HAZE CRADLING OUR SMOKE CHILDREN IN HER ARMS WITH TEARS OF HAPPINESS IN HER EYES.
>>498692583we get it, you're bad at the game and instead of getting good at the game you would rather the game change to accommodate youread sirlin or get out
Hope you've all been abusing shiv in your ranked games before he gets nerfed. This game is such a broken joke its mindboggling they would make a ranked mode in this state
Should I start a ranked match or wait for inhouse?
>>498692583>making up someone to argue withMeds. Now.
>>498689885Rat i like more>>498692374Not him.bit you do realize that warden ult.goes through walls ....right>>498692528Too bigNeeds bigger ass.
Has a Dota patch/hero ever been unbalanced to the point of immediate day after nerfs like Deadlock?
>>498692758buy healing reductionbuy slow
>use up all my stamina because parkouring everywhere is fun>no stamina left for when it actually matters
>>498692891original invoker had 27 spells
>>498692756they already lowered the skill ceiling because you niggers cried so much about having to aim
>already pigeonholed into 2-3 charactersIt's over for me bros. I am destined to the same fate as Dota and LoL.
>>498692583so you mean just turn the game into overwatch? but why wouldnt people just play overwatch then?
>>498692918stamina should regen faster outside of combat, like how you sprint out of combat
>at first thought the guardian range and shit changes were good, since guardian isn't lost the second one of the laners die>but as it turns out, now taking lane guardian without outnumbering your opps with teammates from other lanes or literally wiping the floor with them killing them 3+ times is impossible when i used to be able to take guardian 0/0i am wrong on this take and retarded or you guys agree? it feels way too risky to get so close to the guardian that it's never worth it, you just eat shit and die if you try to do it, you are kinda forced into a farming stalemate until someone pushes a bit too far/gets ganked
>>498692969you can quit deadlock and switch to overwatch at any time bro
>>498692992Because paladins has always been significantly superior
>>498692891Not on the top of my head, but usually if Slark or Outworld Destroyer gets buffed to the point Reddit complains, emergency letter patches happen within the week to address it.But superman Sven was allowed to exist for 6 months and oppress the game completely.
>>498692528looks like she ate too many clocks
>>498692978same, im learning mo&krill and having a real bad timedont think im ever taking this guy to ranked, way too reliant on your team not being mouthbreathers and running away from a target in a 3s stun
>>498692891Release wc3 ember spirit Release wc3 dota rubick Meepo played by a good playerEntirety of horseshit that is and was arc warden
The entire pacing of the games went to shit after lanes weren't randomized anymore and the map got extremely wide
>>498692891we have immediate day after nerfs because it's an early alpha
>Start of the match>Duo lane with some pug>We kill the enemy duo 4 times each before 10 minute mark>Within 12 minutes they have 3,000 more souls than we do>They have 0 killsI have a long way to understanding MOBA's
>>498692978i dont have the time nor am i willing to invest my time in any more than 2 characters in this game. also the designs suck absolute dick which isnt helping.
>>498692891think Nyx Assassin was hit 2 weeks after release
>>498693287secures/denies of lane creeps are equally important
>>498692645At last, fem clockwerk persona
>>498692891Centaur Warrunner on release was funny. IIRC he had like 67% winrate and got swiftly giganerfed.
>>498692969Cry.
>DFN NA>bebop is picked>12 stacks at 13minfinally someone with the same experience as me
>>498693093Encouraging early ganks and team play is good I thinkI don't feel super pressured to take my tower on my own, I just need to cs and deny until I secured enough mobility to start playing with my team
>been in ranked queue for 12 minutesdeadtards?
>>498693287did you guys also miss every CS?with the changes to kill bounty in the early game 1 kill = 3 creeps at mostyou only kill your lane opponent because you want them to miss creeps and build your leadif you're actively missing creeps to shoot the other guy you are actively getting yourself behind on your opponent
if you play haze in my game you will be reported min 1 100%
>>498692891Yes, frequentlyASSFAGGOTS have a lot of moving parts
>>498693742>if you're actively missing creeps to shoot the other guy you are actively getting yourself behind on your opponentIsn't this common knowledge?
>>498693742>>498693415It was probably that, we denied some of theirs, theirs to ours. I just didn't think it was that many.I find denying souls to be hard at times, I'm not sure what it is but sometimes it's like the nanosecond they spawn, the enemy has them shot, but they only just appeared for me so I'm confused. It's like they're seeing them first.
>Instantly kills you
For me? It's Kali
>>498692891>earth spirit release>monkey king release>arc warden copying divine rapier on his clonethose were not day after i think but close
>>498693951Did you know snakes have two penises?
>>498693874you can check lane stats in your game tab, just click the game and use the drop down menuthere are last hits and denies, you can see how much you got vs your opponents
>>498692525>dude lets make the games even LONGER LMAOno.
I always have to die like 10 times before I remember how to play. Pray you do not get matched up with me
>>498692756They are literally changing the game to accommodate shitters like you who couldn't aimWho are you trying to fool?
>>498693664>man this clip is incredibly mid. but i guess it's just some new player being proud of winning in lane. good for them>"shallow god"lol
just saw neon prime gameplay. What the actual FUCK was that original aesthetic. >>498693486>>498693097seems like ur seething just as hard desu
Nooo bro you dont get it paradox is fucking insane in organised play!>The paradox in question:Meanwhile bebop on enemy team KEKW
>>498693664could you not have finished him off way earlier
>>498694089Would you show me?
>>498694279>just saw neon prime gameplay. What the actual FUCK was that original aesthetic.it was a better and more thought out aesthetic
>>498694224It's a prerequisite to this >>498693912
>>498694347ive gotten like 11 out of 12 of these players in matchmaking at my solo queue mmr and retards will still tell me nekoscore is fake and isnt at least an indication of where you're at
>>498694347he has 15 bomb stacks in 22mins, its ultbopi swear to god theres some absolute shitter dev playing in wood mmr that got stomped by bombop and decided to nerf it into the ground
>>4986942791. bro was shitting up the previous thread praying for the game to be CSGO and it's annoying 2. Neon Prime looked like complete ass BUT I mourn the loss of qt barefoot alien haze
>>498694472probably because it is fake. If the best player in the world played with friends that weren't as good his Negroscore would be low. There's ways to influence it and is not about winrate or performance
The fact that briefcasenigger hasn't been giganerfed for being a dominant pick in both soloq and pro play is insane.
>>498694767Ivy gets nerfed instead, so it's totally fine.
>>498694210but i can aim
>>498694657okay, what does it mean when it's high and you only play solo?
>>498694767Pocket is an honest mid tier. Learn2play noob
>>498694347paradox is the reason theyre still in the game lmao
>>498694210thats still not enough. guarantee these quad amputees playing this game screeching about how aiming in a shooter moba isnt important will turn this into yet another keyboard faceroll type of garbage eventually.
>>498694972No one says that
>>498694951>Briefcasenigger>HonestGo take a shower.
>2-4 on placements so fara seven on my team last game was 0 0 0 after 25 minutesjust gonna call this first week a wash, hopefully matches are better after being placed
The majority of the moves in this game should either be parryable, dodgeable, shootable, or meleeable. e.g. Melee Geist's cards with good timing to deflect them. Shoot Kelvin's grenade to detonate it early. Shoot Viscous's head in ball form to slow him down. Whatever. Properly countering an ability should build up the "deadlock meter" that gives you buffs (mostly resistances and heath regen), lowers the effects of nearby enemy items, and reduces your respawn timer.This would allow abilities to be powerful, meaning characters like Paradox can feel fun to play with their strong, spammable ults, because those ults have counters baked into the mechanics of the game. Similarly, it'd give players core mechanical ways to progressively reduce the power of the lead the opponent has over them, meaning that you can play mechanically well in the future to overcome snowballing - converting mechanical skill to numerical advantage in a way that realistically enables comebacks through incremental, progressive good play, rather than single swingy interactions.
>bebop is carrying a tournament game
1 more week1 more week and it'll all be fixedjust 1 more week
>>498695090
>>498695174i have observably high mmr and got a player with 40 hours in the game who must have barely had 50 matches played to be eligible for ranked going 1-15 in one of my games idk why even release ranked if the mm is still so fucked up
>>498694972i agreethey should just remove abilities because it reduces the required aim neededttk should also be no longer than 2 secs MAXalso remove items and creeps because resource management isnt a skill thats relevant in a shooter
uhhh dlg sisters? i thought bebop was a bottom tier?
>>498695225>Geist's cardsgood to know the shitters crying about positioning being important in a moba don't even play this game
uhh paradox is better than bebop btw :^) a single pick can WIN teamfights!! good thing bebop has no ability to win teamfights with one ult......
>play ranked for a game that's barely finished>be surprised it's a shit experience
>>498695387the variation they nerfed into the ground was bottom tier
>>498695387he's bottom barrel
>>498695174I had a dude fucking MALDING saying that the placements are the most important part of a ranked game and if you lose now, in an alpha, you can give up hope of every being a high rank, period.Frankly I think he's full of shit and should probably go for a walk and call his mom, but I think you just gotta do your best on your own and for your team, and not worry too much about the macro if your teammates suck. You place where you place and regardless you gotta improve yourself and your own gameplay in the long run
>>498694967Are we watching thr same game?Lmao
>>498695423It's not my fucking fault that they made two black woman champions with ghost-related names.
>>498695607okay, this is really advanced baitnice job
>>498695607Lady Geist is black????????
>>498695365see? these are the disingenuous cripples who absolutely hate the idea anyone could outaim them and win instead of just farming like a tard and winning through ingame economy only.
>>498695275just NA things lmao
>>498694347I keep telling nigga's Paradox is weak as fuck when Bebop can also swap places without risking himself and can also call in an orbital ion strike
>kelvin's when you have antihealHow do you deal with Mo and Krill as Geist?
Strongest paradox game impact S tier hero
>>498695681>>498695701This is not white skin.
>Bebop carry
>>498695821if you think this was lost because of paradox idk what to say
>>498695786Those mfs compare a swap on 60s base to a HOOK that you can spam on 9s cd or whatever it is with talentThey are literally braindead, and thats just one of the things bebop offersThe range upgrade change fucking killed paradox, and even mikaels isnt playing it in his games i have seen
>>498695901It wasn't lost because of Paradox, but it certainly wasn't won because of Paradox. And arguably, it WAS won because of Bebop.
>>498695835
>>498695901Yeah it was all those pesky op heroes on enemy team :(
>>498695987swap actually was better before the nerfsit's definitely worse now
>>498695987And of course Hyper Beam is up for every single fight regardless, so swap's relatively low cooldown doesn't even matter.
>>498696017>but it certainly wasn't won because of Paradoxno shit, she's not a carry hero
>>498695987>and even mikaels isnt playing it in his games i have seenyeah cause enemies ban it lmaohe's literally taking up the enemies' ban slot
>>498696243She's not anything. She's trash. Is Bebop a carry? Because if he's also a carry, on top of being tankier, having a similar lane presence, and having a longer-ranged pull on a 10s cooldown, then he's obviously way better than her, which is something people have been denying in this thread for weeks.
inhouse doko???
Return fire on Warden? I'm already building cooldown and duration, so the uptime will be good and I'm often on the front soaking damage
>>498695509I mean, at the minimum, I want teammates who participate and don't end 0/10+/0I'm fully prepared for the self-improvement grind, tho
>>498696154The last patch moved the range upgrade from t1 to t3, so you are stuck with 25(29) range swap.whcih is fucking PITIFULAnd it delays your wall silence which is what makes the SWAP deadly in first placeI have 120 games on paradox 55% winrateIm telling you that hero is fucking SHIT right now,
>>498696480alright bro, take your one NA shitter match as "proof"fucking wood mmr player takes again, christ
>>498696480you realize that Bebop was recently buffed and Paradox was recently nerfed, yes?
>>498696571you max wall first still, and the gun buff made her feel a lot better otherwisejust gotta go up closer, she's still very goodt. 59% wr in 200 games
>>498696374He plays infernus and seven in pubs on NA todayLmao>>498696514Yeye, making coffee
>>498692992because overwatch has dogshit movement unlike this game so it would be cool if I could use it instead of the entire screen being autoaim ults and projectiles statchecking me
>>498696736>He plays infernus and seven in pubs on NA todayyes because he's smurfing you retard (plus practicing other heroes is probably a good idea when enemies ban paradox every time)he's not even playing on NA yet
>>498695509>I had a dude fucking MALDING saying that the placements are the most important part of a ranked game and if you lose now, in an alpha, you can give up hope of every being a high rank, period.this is because he's a total fucking shitter but doesn't realize itshitters get placed in iron or herald or wherever because they're shitters, but they tell themselves it's because they got unlucky on their placementsthen every time they lose it's because they're stuck in the trench or they got put in loser's queue or it's forced 50/50 etc.the result is that they NEVER analyze their own gameplay, they NEVER make a deliberate effort to improve, and so they NEVER climb beyond where their placements put them
Sex with Abrams
>>498696864Ok go suck mikaels dick harder, while people who have more than 2 braincells are going to collect free mmr on heroes like shiv and infernus
>>498696596Bebop got nerfed so fucking hard in the same patch as Paradox that they had to give him an emergency buff the very next day because they'd cratered him so hard.>>498696580Please show me your pro-level EU gameplay analysis of several hundred matches that definitively concludes that Paradox is better than Bebop. I invite it.
>>498695174>>498695509there are no "placement" matches you retardsevery game you play is a placement match
>>498696980>while people who have more than 2 braincells are going to collect free mmr on heroes like shiv and infernusLike his teammates who are given free picks when enemies are literally forced to ban paradox? lmaowe saw it today, they just shitstomped everyone
>>498697008>Bebop got nerfed so fucking hardno he didn't lmao they improved his power during his power spike windowthe reason reddit whined is because in doing so they gutted the bombbop build, which sucks ass but is very popular among shitters
Why do people even think EU players are better than NA?
>>498697163grug tribe goodgronk tribe bad
>>498696547Yeah that's uh that's roughI was that guy yesterday, in the last non ranked game I played. I dunno what happened. I got fucking annihilated in lane by a wraith, and then was the only one lane jannying while my team farmed jungle and I got ganked over and over. At least they didn't flame me, because they were completely nonverbal and never used text chat or pings.
>>498697008barely anyone even plays bebop in high mmr EU games because he's actual garbageshould be proof enough that he's not in 90% of my matches
>>498697230Maybe EU players are just retarded and bad at the game?
>>498697163EU is better in most gamesboth league and dota iirc, and CS too i thinkNA is better at fighting games (but JP stomps both regions without breaking a sweat)
>>498697163Because we see it every time in competitive team games that NA teams are always inferior>>498697284Lmao even
>>498696871What was weird is that we also won while he was going on this tirade so I think he's just perpetually angry and also bad
>2 out of my 3 losses have been because of leavers within the first 5 minutes
This same game but paradox and bebop switches teams, and we see paradox majestic leaping into the sky, swapping and instantly dying while bebop beam.goes BRRRRR
>>498697290>NA is better at fighting games (but JP stomps both regions without breaking a sweat)My boy Monarch destroys JP players in Blazblue.
inhouse PD3DJ
>>498697290JP got washed last evo tho
bebop is better than paradox. doesn't mean that paradox is shit/needs buffs or anything.
>>498697458That's just sad anon im sorry>Ban BEBOPKEK FUCKING W
>>498697514tempestNYC won EVO Japan this year in strive, before he got permabanned for being a socially retarded tranny chaser (this really happened, the strive community is wild)koreans and pakistanis also own tekkenbut historically it's been JP's genre and it's only recently they're getting real competition from NAthis is at least in part because JP has had good online play for 20 years whereas NA and EU only got it with the widespread adoption of rollback in 2020
>Lash acts passive aggressively.>"Wow, I actually listen to comms for once and am let down">Because I didn't dive his 4-man ult>While I was at 300 health>With pocket affliction>We proceed to stomp the enemy team.>This has happened at least three timesWhy is it that a team that fights so much better?
>hydra nation banned bebopPTSD from a match they didn't even play
>>498697875It's a respect/meme ban. Hydra Nation will shitstomp the other team anyway since they're miles ahead the other team skillwise, so they can fuck around like thisGuaranteed 2-0, no matter the picks.
>>498697286too bad his kit looks fucking garbage from what i've used. Hope he really gets everything redone I am not liking what i've seen. Ult is literally talon owl but tp's to the explosion.
All that paradox needs is bkb piercing interrupt on her swap just like vengeful does in dota.
PD3DJ
>>498698049trueit's too bad we can't see hydra nation vs buff enjoyers without one side having a huge ping advantage
I want to play holliday
>it's another "enemy team has a god-like Lash/Shiv" episode
>>498697726Was Tempest the guy who got banned because trannies claimed he had an alt named YWNABW without any evidence?I sure enjoy every anime fighter community being infested with trannies thanks to Strive now.
What's the point of ranked if you can't ban heroes?
PD3DJ8/12
>>498698393>Was Tempest the guy who got banned because trannies claimed he had an alt named YWNABW without any evidence?no, that was sneedchungus, the world's best Sin playertempestNYC was banned because he kept getting drunk and then telling random trannies he just met that he loved them
I wish these lobbies had text and voice chat
>>498698393>I sure enjoy every anime fighter community being infested with trannies thanks to Strive now.Now?Where have you been for the past 20 years?
Friendly reminder for inhouse bros to bind "voice chat: party"This allows you to talk with enemy team in inhouse(Usefull for exchanging racial slurs)
When the comeback mentally breaks the enemy team
>>498698470>i shouldn't have to learn bad matchups because im entitledname one reason why bans should be a thing in ranked.
>>498698393also yeah the anime community has been full of trannies for ages, it's not a strive thingthere was huge drama in the melty/darkstalkers community years ago because the playerbases were so small they were basically entirely controlled by one power hungry tranny
>>498698532>hate trannies>get banned>love trannies>get banned
PD3DJ9/12
>shiv abuser wins
PD3DJ11/12
they removed the option for multiple of the same hero. pls fix and return a full mcginnus lobby must become real thing.
>>498698775technically the official reason sneedchungus was banned was that he liked some lolicon art on twitter (yes, really)but he's always claimed it was because of the rumor that he was YWNBAW, and the people who want him to stay banned all seem to believe that rumor is truetempestNYC was really just banned for being an autistic drunk who's really, really bad at hitting on peoplehere's a video exploring the tempest drama if you're really interested: https://youtu.be/3tB6T2TMV5A
>>498698959
>>498699037It never worked in first placeWe tried multiple times
You're building Paradox wrong.
my love for paradox is actively detrimental to my ranked experiencewho do I play now?
>>498699192I know, the most it ever worked for me was that we could atleast select the same hero which only worked as a funny screenshot.
>>498698289sorry but Yoshi shan't be sharing his waifu with others
>>498699307as an honest player i will not abuse melee cancels
>>498699321Bebop or Geist
Need 1 more, shitters welcomePD3DJ
>>498699307Thats the meleedox thing, it does work, but endgame you dont have much chance competing against heroes that scale better and outcarry You better be coordinated with team to grab pickoffs only
my whole steam fucking crashed trying to use all speak
>>498699771its bugged, yoshi hasn't said anything yet but there's a few people noting it in the dev discord
>>498699105Oh, was sneedchungus the guy who used to enter NLBC for Granblue under the name CUNNY while playing Charlotta? That would all fit together quite well.But thanks, I'll watch that video.
>>498699307another gimmick build that only works because people aren't used to playing against it
Gonna stream le epic inhouse on ttv cl_ogar0
Ok, so why does the game lie to me when it says my Vindicta ult is in range to one shot a player? I've had too many hits where the game shows them glowing to indicate them ready to be sniped, but when I hit they're still left with a sliver of HPYes, I fully charged it, I'm not a moron who tries to fucking quick scope like it's TF2
>>498699904there's actually another strive player named Cunny who played anji, no clue what happened to him and i don't think he entered any tournamentshe and sneedchungus both frequented /ggg/, and sneed still goes thereno clue if sneed played any games besides strive
>>498700103i wish he still had the black helmet and was pure goop instead of the weird skeleton
new lobby :75XZDFuck majong
PD3DJSame party code, refill the lobby
>>498700114somewhat related but this happened at a point in timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcaxtWICsG8
Mahjong players banned
>>498700230i knows its kelvin's skeleton but its always jarring when i see how buff he is from behind
What's wrong with mahjong?
>>498700412The AIDS-ridden mahjong playing faggot DC'd and we all waited for him then gave up and remadeALSO READY UP STARVING YOU DOUBLE NIGGER
Press ready up to choose your character friend
Watching somebody flub a parry is infinitely more rewarding than parrying. You can see the visible frustration in their eyes as their one recourse for your high-IQ play of tapping melee over and over has failed and they are now FUCKED. I haven't had this much brainless fun since Shugoki filtering people with charged heavies or demon's embrace. It's even better once you get Unstoppable and become a tard ball.
Ready up starving marvin, we gotta game to play.
oh no no no
>>498700563The best part is on their screen they may not have even flubbed it, but you can just get rekt by ping so they seethe even harder
>>498700303God damn it I'm late
>>498700085The red glow just tells they're under 50% health for the bonus damage not that it will oneshot, they can still live because of spirit res/shield
who should I que third along with shiv/vindicta?
I'm really tired of both lady geist and haze ruining my gamesTheir existence offends me and its basically a guaranteed win for the enemy when I'm against them
>>498699307I don't think you want a full melee build (lifestrike) but Melee Lifesteal, Melee Charge, Spirit Strike, and Colossus are all really efficient items that help Paradox out a lot.
seven WILL carry this game
>>498700563What's even funnier is that I played melee Shiv before all the tournament players popularized it, and no one ever parried me as I punched them to death. But now that people are expecting it I switched to playing gun/spirit Shiv, and I just gun them down when they attempt to parry me in desperation.
>>498701171lol are you serious about haze every single haze i played with only feeds she is trash right now
>>498701007Pick someone with better CC to round out your roster. Seven and Infernus have fun CC abilities imo, love stuns that hit all around me.
I think they should increase the cooldown on Miku's ult by at least 20 seconds.
Why do people like sprint boots over extra stamina? Is it the health regen? I feel like if I'm in a situation that requires either I'd rather have the extra oh shit roll bar to try and get away
>>498698167real, this lefaa kid needs an ego check at least
>>498701528you really overestimate the amount of people who look shit up
>>498702654I don't because I see stupid shit like magic carpet Seven in my games all the time and when I wonder why people are doing that it always ends up being that they got the idea from some youtuber or twitch streamer.
>>498702554It just feels like shit running around the map with no sprint speed after you get used to it.
>>498702554Because Kevin and mystic reverb makes my ass hurt and I like that enduring speed reduces the penalty from movement reduction.
>>498702554sprint speed is good and the upgrade for boots is cheaper
Why am I getting worse the more I play. Every game feels like I'm playing for the first time
>>498702816>magic carpet sevenlook all 4 of his abilities benefit from duration increase + it's really fucking funny to ult and then magic carpet outta there when its getting too heated
what orange/green items does seven want. spirit stuff seems pretty obvious
>>498702554i only get boots when they a prevalent slow
>>498703080look at that dunning krueger chart and then ask yourself where you fall on it
>this matchgood outlook for the NA scene here
>play ranked>win>very little player damage, low kill participation, reasonable but unimpressive obj damageI had a bad lane so I spent most of the match farming to make sure I wouldn't fall behind. My team was so strong that if I tried to go to a fight to contribute they would usually have won by the time I got there. I still helped a lot with the final pushes, but it feels weird.
>>498703080Because you're retarded. I know because I'm the same way.
Is this the Deadlock: Shrine Wars general?
Well lads that wasn't fun, I will not be playing any more inhouses since you guys are just as silent/uncommunicative as pubs.There's really no point it's just shittier ping and less balanced if you don't talk
Which of the toons utilize Torment Pulse the most effectively? Least effectively?
>>498703620Everyone got carried at least once in their lifetime
>>498703769Who cares? It's a garbage item after the nerf
>>498701005No, where the character to glowing white. Though still sucks if that's true
>>498703784All my ranked matches feel like this, though. I'm the worst player on my team in all of them, despite winning 3 of 4.Feels super weird.
>>498703769Close range spirit builders- good!Anyone else- bad!>>498703807It got rebuffed oomfie
>>498703769Its pretty much staple on moooooo and kriiiilllLeast, probably talon and vindicta
>>498703769>toons
>>498700534sorry my game crashed and i was waiting to see if a friend could play anyways so i just fucked off
BETS?
>>498703239Magazine for more 3 uptimeSpirit lifesteal and enduring speedFleetfootSome choices.
>>498704041amber
>>498703930what else would you call the toons?
>>498703239Tesla Bullets and armors are good on him. On support/stun Seven I also get my other actives besides Echo Shard from orange and green items. There's good stuff in there like Divine Barrier, Healing Nova, Rescue Beam, and Alchemical Fire.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHAMMAD AND KAREEEEEEEEEEEM
>>498656287you're right actually because I've come upon the revelation that waiting to 4 items in any category is both too expensive and too long. I need to build my shit down.
Paradox downplayers?
i built dynamo pure support and felt like a total dweeb doing nothing outside my ult, maybe i needed more dmg
>>498695798Geist deals with every hero the same way. You take damage and then you swap health. Like terrorblade. Its not rocket science.
>>498704278i fucking hate it. i like paradox, every game i play i somehow land on the character that has the mots downplaying faggots and so i end up in the middle between the downplaying faggots, and the counter to those downplaying faggots who exaggerate the strengths of the character just out of pure spite for said downplayersi hate them both
>>498704278literally none of these games can be taken as serious representations of any kind, see >>498698049if you want actually competent gameplay watch the EU matches
I'll never play like this again.
>>498704407But Lefaa is the best player on Hydra Nation and flick's Paradox made his Infernus look like a bitch.
>>498702554movement speed is the best stat in the game
>>498704528yes, like I said it has actually 0 bearing what heroes are picked because the skill gap is so wide between the teams, so there's no point in analyzing these games any further
>>498702554I typically run urn and grab sprint+fortitudeI run faster than Ivy could fly me
>>498704278>16 minute gameLiterally no information can be gained from these stats aside from the fact that Hydra is a way better team.
>>498704528>best playerHe went 0-5 on his placements THO
>>498704528he seems like the type of player who explodes when things go south and absolutely destroys the team from the inside
>went 2-5 in my placementsmy career as an deadlock athlete is already over.
>>498704335>mo stuns you in place so you can't lifeswapNow what?
>Went 6-1 in placementsNow I play the waiting game.
>>498705298lmao those placement matches are just a meme you will be placed where ever your "regular" aka ranked mmr is
i can hear people talking in the inhouse lobby
>>498705434let these 1100 neko faggots cope that they just got "unlucky" as if the game will magically place them at max rank if they just won one more game lmao
>>498705363You sunder at last second, pop meta and fuck him in the ass. Shriek when you see me.
>>498705298why do retards think there are 7 "placement games"?all games you play during the period are counted into the period's result. it's just 7 minimum with no maximum
>>498705298Just keep playing bro every single ranked match you play counts towards your placement.
>>498705628this, there are no placements
>>498705434>>498705628the placements are the most important part of a ranked game and if you lose now, in an alpha, you can give up hope of every being a high rank or breaking into the esports scene, period.
>>498705718i literally just said there are no "placement games" in fact the real placement games have already been played since the unranked hidden MMR works as a baseline for the ranked matches
>>498705628'Cause 7 is all I'm playing, SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY.
>>498705718wait a minute, this post looks familiar...
WHO QUEUEING IN 30 MINS FOR RANKED?
>>498705718I agree. After all we will start kicking NO RANKS and WOOD RANKS from inhouses. Mandatory e-penis inspection day come Tuesday.
>>498705586>Twisted knife, but heavy
Don't think I've ever seen anyone ever use withering whip
>>498692626let him cook, vindictaCHADS gonna be eating good next patch
>got curbstomped all 7 ranked matches
>>498705586sunder?
>>498705718>breaking into the esports scene, period.If I wanted to grind hard 12 hours a day I'd become a doctor and make real money whilst being respected and valuednot 60k a year on a t2 pro videogame team lol
>>498705586The wise flee my footfalls...
>>498706347Despite adding ranked there's still no matchmaking, just a score
>>498706398t. Asian father
>>498706398you don't have the intellect to go through med school, wood elo coper.
>>498705718Proofs?
>>498706398This is the most sensible post I've ever read on /vg/
>>498706347Make a new account or commit ritual suicide (seppuku).
>>498706686>med school>IQmy 110 IQ midwit goober sister got through Med school and is a practicing Neurologist. With strong dedication even an average person can get in. I bet an outright idiot could get into a DO program if he tried hard.
>>498706347holy based
>>498706686lol what?med school is famously doable by retards it's just miserable because you have to memorize five billion things
played two ranked games, am I gonna make it bros
>>498706260Withering Whip doesn't really do enough for its price. It's only useful against a small pool of heroes and it won't usually make the difference between getting a kill or not.. The most useful debuff it gives is also much more consistent if you buy Bullet Resist Shredder instead. For the same price, Slowing Hex or Decay is a better counter for most heroes and will help you ensure a kill more than a 14% bullet resist debuff. The sprint speed is okay I guess.
>>498707080>med school is famously doable by retards it's just miserable because you have to memorize five billion thingsWow just like mobas.
>>498707104Hello? Yoshi?Send in the farm maxxer
>>498707104what was it like, playing with those insufferable high elo faggots?
Holy fr*ck Lash is fun!!!!1
>>498707080Imagine this being your son lmao
>>498707104Lol yes you are a monster
>>4987071804 seconds of the debuff tooWhereas decay straight up dots the target down and almost disbles healing
>>498707253My dad's still disappointed because I'm doing my PhD in plasma physics instead of some sort of engineering so sometimes you just can't win
>>498707253he's right though, medical school is just a work ethic problem not intelligence
The average negroscore of each player in my lobbies is going DOWN after each win. Winning is not the only metric. It's over for me bebop bros.
>>498707203people were surprisingly co-operative compared to an usual pubwasn't a bad time, but we did win both. probably going to be bad when you're taking a beating, had to calm down a duo lane when they were already seething at each other three minutes in
>>498695174>first few ranked matches were close, fun, and hard earned wins for either side>last few were no better than normal qshouldn't it be the opposite
>>498707180yoshi should give it back it's disarm
There should be more items like decay so even shitters like me who can't aim can get these crackheads off of me so I can farm for a sec
>>498707645Actually normal queue match for the most part is better
I wish people would stop running into the enemy base when the enemy has rejuv.
withering whip is actually so ass compared to slowing hex
>>498707631im not a stranger either. i cant stand some of the streamers and some notable niggers up there too
>getting annoyed 1v1 vs haze because her fixation stacks last a gorillion years>teammate rotates and we kill her giving me a chance to breathe>haze comes back frustrated, tries really hard to kill me and dies>she comes back and I kill her again >she comes back and is really upset, dives my guardian without her creeps to try and finish it off>death slam her into it for another free kill>she ends the game 0-11-1fuck haze players
Woke up and lost another game12 in a rowMatch making fucking me hard
>>498707394>disappointed because I'm doing my PhD in plasma physicsyour dad is a dick but at least you were born with the iq for interesting stuffi failed community college calculus 3 times, my dreams of being a lowly engineer died quite early lol. playing deadlock at my factory job.
>>498707809streamers are usually pretty bad with their ego
Lost my last ranked game rip the 7-0 dream. Still happy about 6-1
Free me
>>498707618nekoscore doesn't matter anymorestop thinking about it
>>498708454neko does matter we are just going to have medals behind them now
>>498707987i have a CS degree and have never gotten so much as a job interview despite applying to many entry level positions
>>498708454>Mmr does not...Le matter>Neko score does not...Le matter>Rank does not... Le matterYeah okay. RETARD. It is as important as your IQ and your salary. It says who you are as a man and how much you should be taken seriously. If this were a just world your rank would show next to your ugly fucking posts.
i can tell the discourse around this game is going to be absolutely insufferable from tuesday onward
>>498709030if you're not at least [my rank] do NOT talk about game balance
>>498708931NegroScore isnt rank retardIt shows who you party with. Good players who get new friends into the game have a lower negroscore the average player and there are countless shitters carried by one friend
>>498709151lol you already know that will happen
>>498707394>wanted to do physics>dad begs me to get into electrical engineering instead>now I have a shitty job that will probably be replaced by AI in the next 20 years Don't worry bro you did the right thing
>>498709185yes and they will play solo ranked games in your queues till they drop
>>498708931In a worldWhere everyone has a number above their headAnd it's the total of their CS and denies in DeadlockOne manWill riseToThe Top
>>498709289this but it's amount of times they chose to BROOL over take an objective
>>498708931nekoscore doesn't matter BECAUSE rank exists
I don't care what your rank is because you didn't play the right character so your rank is irrelevant unlike mine
>>498709185ok what if i only solo queue and im 2400
My dad can beat up all your dads combined
My rank? Yea, my rank is the "I'm having fun" rank.
How do people sub like 1800 negroscore even exist? I'm nearly 2k and I'm fully aware I'm dogshit
>>498709931>dogshit>better than, quite literally, 80% of the playerbasedunning-krueger
>>498709706Yeah prolly mine's an alcoholic hoarder
>>498709931you havent seen how bad people can getsome tards play like slightly less brain dead bots
>>498710253Why did he spec into that talent tree
>>498710098>dunning-kruegerreddit
>>498709575Neko score is accurate now lol now what we are going to know what title you will get to back up the numbers but you always play ranked so no point in worrying about it remember what valve said if you miss a week of placement you lose your title goes away for that week till you do it again
>>498710405no u
>>498701528Dishonest.
>>498710098I accept my MMR is midwit>>498710325There's like a barrier of entry to these types of games though, I think I'd be much lower if every single player did the tutorial and watched a vid or two for example
are inhouses going rn
>>498710742match just ended spaces are up75XZD
Yep75xzd
Every time I start playing a new character, after like 3-4 matches I start stomping as them and get like 20 kills and virtually no deaths for maybe 3 or 4 matches. Then I get shat on hard by everyone around me and I go back to being a completely average player.Is this like a matchmaking punishment?
>>498710882>do well>game pits you against better players>level outworking as intended.
I did it!I broken my 12 game losing streak!I hate this game!
>>498710882character based elo is what your experiencing. It's whats ruining matchmaking the most right now.
>>498710882YepThey want you tonget hooked on the new char and then crush your dreamsRinse repeat
>>498710882nu game / matchmaking design hates when you see any green and tries to make your game harder artificially
we need to start banning items from the inhouse. icefraud has already proven that he doesn't know jack shit with how overtuned return fire is allowed to be since launch.
OCE is so dead I run into the same groups all day and nightFuck sake
>>498710985Aint no way its real
>>498711061>return fire>overpowered
>>498711061don't be mad haze!
>>498711061>haze player when afk farming, not hitting towers, then pressing 4 doesnt instantly win the game
>>498711061t. spent 2k on green items the whole game.
>>498709931I'm at like 1200 Nekoscore and I've been playing every day since August, I have good map awareness and 'gamesense' but I'm shit at fights because half of my keyboard hand is paralysed so I have to use funky bindings to play.I just love the game, I know I'll never be as good as a sweaty Haze player in a fight :)
>>498710846>>498710864Post results I want to see them
The quality difference between normal and ranked games is unreal. Not only is everyone finally using their mics, but they will also clean the lanes and collapse on an overextended enemy almost immediately. Compared to normals where your retarded team has such low awareness that you wonder if they somehow removed the minimap from their game.
>keep topscoring or near topscoring team>keep losingI hate this
>>498711061It literally gor "nerfed" damage return wiseIts only better defensively Before it would return full damage before damage reductionsTldr gitgud
>>498711061NOOOO BROS IT'S NOT FAIR I'M SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PRESS 4 AND KILL THEIR WHOLE TEAM WITH NO DANGER TO MYSELF!!!
>>498711176I would but I have to leave the lobby in order to fetch the screen page.
>>498711176Unfortunately no one gets to see end scores and matches dont save into your history Or only host gets to see thoseBut we just had fun super brooool game with like 30kills in 10min or some dumb shit>>498711238Real, people also push way harder early game on guardians on duolanes
>>498711435We can see the endpage by putting the matchidI can't post the endpage because in lobby but heres the id from last game: 23083957
>>498711061of all the bullshit actives in the game you chose to complain about return fire of all things?
>>498711547*match id into that popular matches or whatever in main menu
one more for inhouse
>>498711258>almost always near the bottom of souls and kills>almost always winJust luck max lmao
>>498711563Yeah ita crazyId say knockdown is way worse than return fireNot to mention decay that should be like half of its duration
>>498711747I notice that the team balance tends to be worse at night, so I'll probably stick to playing before 8 pm from now on
ONE MORE GAMER NEEDED75XZD
I would sit bros but im frying my burgers
Thoughts on Yamato's potential redesigns?
It's there any way to tell that your private feedback is being read
What server are these inhouses at? NA?
>>498711124confirmed by yoshi to be real and also to be not working correctly
>>498711982NA E
>>498711167you don't play haze, and it shows>play haze full damage>everyone continues to dive on you because you're haze and have the durability of a chemo patient.>buy sup stamina and greens>deal a bit less damage, but you can now dodge the lash looking to mating press you into the concrete.>>498711887enjoy your freedom sandwiches
>>498711924Love em but I also live this picture for giving me hope that Warden will get his cape
How much Deadlock have you played since you got in?, I got in on August.
>>498709931i have a 2200 niggerscore :)
>>498712125230ish hours
>>498711924If we don't get this one valve is fucking washed.
>>498712125400 since mid aug
>>498711924They're all great, I hope they implement them.Then just add a 'forehead Yamato' skin later.
>>498712070Like half the Haze and Wraith players I see do that though.
>>498712347>They're all greatwe both know thats not true
>>498712125August, 170 hours.
man watching deadlock comp is boring as shit high mmr pubs games are more entertaining to watch and study maybe thats just because im just seen na comp games
>>498711924Schoolgirl one is too cliche and would look out of placeYokai one is a bit too subdued on the oriental aspect to me, without the sash and katana she'd just look like a businesswoman8A looks the best but has a bit of a color crisis with 8B9A looks like a 70's Yakuza member
>>498712420bro wraith is fucking gigaaids cancer broken. actual dishonest nigger ape hero that can get away with low investment in greens because she's turbo broken. try that with haze, and you'll just lose.
>>498712657the top comp teams (hydra nation, buff enjoyers, probably a couple of russian teams but i don't really follow the EU scene) are so much better than everyone else that their matches are just boring stompsthe games are literally decided BEFORE draft because the skill gap is just that big
>>498712125i've been playing since late may.
>>498712657NA prefers to BROOL in all games at a high level, which makes them better for spectators but typically worse competitively. Even in games dramatically different like RTS NA is by far the most entertaining region despite being shit compared to Korea.
>>498712690>without the sash and katana she'd just look like a businesswomanthat's what the yakuza look like to be fairimo it would be improved with a torn sleeve to show off her tattoos but otherwise it's a good fit for a yakuza boss
>>498713107in LoL it's ironically the oppositeNA is by far the most scared, slow and inactive region in LoL and has been for well on a decade now, it's weird because in any other game I would agree with you
>>498713324Huh, I don't know that game. But yeah in all the games I've seen NA is a constant clownfiesta which is fucking great as a spectator but obviously they get memed on pretty often
>played 2 deadlock matches >lost both>played 3 cs2 matches>lost all of them toowew lad time to cry myself to sleep
>>498713324haven't cared about league in a very long time but i remember imaqtpie saying that the NA meta is "not giving a fuck"
>>498712125early september 300 hours
>>498713324NA league is literally just a retirement home for washed up pros from other regions.
>>498712657I don't watch sports but I've heard the same thing about College Football vs Pro Football.College is supposedly more entertaining to watch because you have future superstars on the same field as blue collar farm boys that are just there to get invited to the afterparties, and it results in absurd plays and more crazy shit.Compared to sterile, calculated pro ball where you can't do anything interesting because the Rothschilds paid $500M for your new stadium and if you fuck up they'll Clinton you.
is this dogshit or not?havent played any games with the new negroscore so i have no personal rating just these ranked lobby ratings
>>498713158>>498712690>>498711924We already have this fucking outfit in so many characters.This is literally just infernus outfit with a sash.And wraith outfit without the coat.And abrams outfit without the coat.And reminiscent of haze outfit.We have too many fucking characters with this getup we don't need another, why shouldn't the fucking massive japanese only woman wear some fucking japanese clothing?It looks so fucking generic and the bottom one suffers from the same problem.The school girl one should be a skin at best or something.8A and 8B are by far the best but 8A suffers from similar issues, 8B blows the rest away and fits best with her new voice and lore.
Ranked keeps giving me multiple teammates who have never played the game before while all the enemies are always serious gamers
>>49871212528th of may
>>498713830Read, nigga, read
>>498713665That's a pretty intense way to say it, I think it's just that they've figured out the meta so why do anything different when you're getting paid giant money to win
>>498709575playing solo is how you artificially boost your negroscore.
>>498711924Bottom one is my favorite but I also like top mainly because of the hair being sentient.
>>498713830do you consider 1% matches dogshit lol
>>498713830you are legit playing top 2000 ish players
>>498713830you'll never go pro but you could start a youtube channel RIGHT NOW and make money by spouting poorly-researched opinions about patch notes and game balance
>>498714250lmao aka he can be someone like BSJ or purge from dota 2 community shit maybe even be a caster
>>498714023>playing soloyou mean playing in stacks?
>>498714509yeah and this is way better than being a pro to be clearpros have to play the game 12 hours a day like it's a job and they make way less money than streamers
>>498711924Oh boy I can't wait until they add these so all the weeb trannies flock to her and be dogshit
>ping spikes>lose lane>snowballs from therevery cool
>winning game with a lot of ganks >team up by 10k>get ran down by seven >he has 30k souls at 20 minutes while we're at 16kthis is not ok, not playing ranked any more. shitty ass valve. I killed him once too, he just farms way too fucking fast with no effort he doesnt even have to stay at the camp they just die to an orb as he runs away
>>498714509>maybe even be a casternot with a finnish accent im afraid
>>498714719God damn bro quit bitching about things that haven't even happened yet
vindicta hits me once with crow + decay with 4 purple items and i lose 81% of my health in 8 secondsvery cool
>>498711924I feel like the bottom one is the best out of these. Don't care a ton for the face paint on the others
>>498714917bro your debuff remover?it is pretty dumb
previous match
Good show celi, but you see you picked a hero that requires you to press 4 buttons, whereas i only need to press 2
Anyone got last stats for inhouse?
>>498714873you could still do it as long as people can clearly understand youalso it's not that hard to learn how to pronounce words correctly in another language t. complimented on my japanese pronunciation by native speakers
>>498713846I am the opposite, as the 5 ranked games I've played were stomps like this. But tomorrow I will cry as the 50% hits in.
Most nutritious meal for a weary gamerIdk if we can get bodies for next inhouse tho
>>498711176
>>498714619Negroscore is a horrible metric no matter what you do, playing in stack will usually lower your niggerscore unless you are all gods
>>498715083just a rough one wasnt sure what i can do
>>498715074>viscous into kevin, vindicta, lashover before it began even without the game stunning me for 15 seconds
>>498710098>dunning-kruegerThis is my favourite example of dunning-kruger.
>>498715074please stop ganking my bussy
inhouses over or match started?
This game doesnt have enough brooolingThe map should he so the respawn is at lane stores on middle lanes, and its just broooling by midboss
>>498711130I will say that it's weirdly easy to counter Gun compared to how hard it is to counter Spirit. Lots of items counter Gun insanely hard compared to Spirit.
>>498715542it's over...
>>498714509https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzJY7m_Cbm4
>>498715417it gets me every time and i don't even know why
>>498715561inhouse is all broool unless specific split pushers names are playing
>>498715581And yet gun has dominated every patch bar 1.
>>498715542I think most people left already
>>498715291Throw out the results of the last one
>>498715581because 3 spirit resist items got converted to bullet res
>>498715784>>498715074
>>498715784t. rackball gamer
>>498711924>leaving out
>>498715867cool thanks
>>498715710Throw some names.
>>498716007that's anisha, not yamato
>>498716007New voice pretty much confirms this ain't happening.
>>498715561sounds like you want battleritewell TOO BAD, IT'S DEAD, HAHA
>>498716070that eternal radiance guy who always plays seven
>before floodgates opened>All my feedback got several views, several got replies and likes>Literally like 20+ posts of feedback with 7+ views and like 8 with replies and likes>post floodgates>Not a single view in any of my feedback postsHmm I wonder why the game gets shittier every patch.
>>498716302most of my feedback posts get views but I've never gotten a reply or likei haven't made many though
Geist enjoyers: reverb on knives for slow, or bomb for damage?
>>498715710Miku did nothing wrong
>>498713935Because brool is life, and you make more money from you sponsors and streaming contracts anyways, and a good show gets you more of thatShroud is one of the highest earning CS players of all time even though I don't think he was ever even in a major final
>>498716270You mean the guy that was looking people up to post shit on their steam profile lmao
>>498716302Looks like your feedback got worse.
What the hell do you do in a solo against Wraith/Haze as Abrams? Just survive?
>>498716363honestly i buy so much gun and green stuff before even heavily investing in spirit on geist that by the time lategame comes I usually never get reverb.
>>498716530Yes, the very same.
>>498716547Nah, too many cooks with retarded horrible feedback and they can't see all of them, let alone see how good they are.It should've never been opened up like this.
>>498716687I agree, they have now abandoned the high iq feedback process entirely. they should have not let the newcomers post on the forum
>>498716629level your passive first and just focus on securing farm with the health nerf you are very killable so just dont make a mistake they will mess up and you can kill them haze easily wraith she got a tp so going to be a bit harderand with wraith always respect her 3k ulti timing
>>498715561I already fixed the map but valve won't take my calls
>>498716817we are banning you from the inhouses for this
Why does every hero only have two legs?
>>498716907All the male characters have 3
>>498716817You are onto something
>51% overall win rate>5-4 in ranked
>>498715991miku
>>498717019Even paradox?
>>498717187anon...
>>498717106Rounding up, expected results.Matchmaking working as intended
>>498716363knives always
Does anyone have proof matchmaking is real? Because I certainly have a lot of proof it's not, and players are randomly assigned.
>>498717387works on my machine
>rank mode>Still no draft pick in rankWhat's the point
>infernus ragequits after a single death>during one of my seven ranked matches
>>498717857i mean i wouldnt bother with ranked until they have at least a semi solid matchmaking system
>>498711563return fire is the most broken green active at the moment.
>>498717976ranked matches have genuinely been a more laid back and fun experience than normal queue>filters out all the dude weed/boozers by existing>people use mics and communicate, but few-to-no raging spergsonly problem is shiv players
>>498715729gun hasn't be viable since mirage patch. we in a green tanky nigger meta now.
>>498718320if by broken you mean doesnt work at all then yeahfunniest shit ever was when haze had 50% evasion and people got baited into buying it just to take 100% and always die lol
>>498716363knives for sure. reverb has a 6 sec cooldown so you can proc it more often with knivesplus if you play far out it will hit more people, so more splash damage
healbane should combine into return fire as a 6k item
>>498718523>reverb has a 6 sec cooldown so you can proc it more often with knivesthe bomb dot will re-proc reverb to continue slowing people. Makes it great for holding chokes like the walkups to T3's.
>>498718320return fire needs to be buffed until it's as funny as blademail
>>498718390i've had a few guys on my team who seem unusually high-strung, like they're really under a lot of stress and can barely handle it, but no ragersthe only person flaming me is my own self-doubt
>>498718476haze should have 50 evasion back. i hate having to buy greens. born to withering whip and lucky shot niggers, forced to eat my leafy greens if i don't want lash to do what my uncle did to me back in the Christmas eve of 2009.
>>498718724It was like that before this change it was dealing damage before bullet resistsYou could delete ulting haze with it some timesNow you cantThe spirit damage return should be buffed to 70% now that would be kino
>>498718609Wrong it healbane needs to combine with decay into a 6000 item that reduces all healing in 30m radius by 50% and deals tiny amount of steady spirit damage like 10 per second
>>498718960Haze needs to have her ult duration changed to like 3 seconds and buff damage slightly so theres actual counterplay with metal skin unlike now her ult lasting 15 seconds
bets this was a 6 stack or just unlucky
>>498719014abrams popping return fire (keep in mind shotgunniggers are supposed to be less effective with return fire since it fires back only a pellet) can stand right next to a toxic bullets fully built lategame haze ulting and straight up kill her.>>498719283her ult never lasts past 10 unless she's building spirit (in which case she'll do zero damage) or has a spirit rune.
>>498719283You're supposed to pop metal skin and then either run out of the AOE or use a stun, not stand and fight her.
Is Pockets shotgun bullet damage per pellet?
>>498719486Maybe
>>498719486I don't know.
>>498719486I guess?
>>498719486perhaps
>>498719486ask again later
So what DOESN'T debuff reducer reduce? Does it reduce mo ult? What about wraith ult? Warden cage?
>play only abrams>finally reach mmr where people Decay me on sightI am not having a good time anymore
>>498719459i only play solo and there is one magical instance where everyone on the team was competent and played objectivesno one was even talking on mic, team just communicated exclusively through pings
Lash and Seven top fragged and obliterated us in this gameI wonder how that could be
>>498720489those smurfs are going crazy
>Kelvin>We're fighting a brawl, whole team vs whole team>Oppertunity presents itself, use Ultimate and cage in 4 of us and 2 of them>We can surely beat the shit out of them now>"KELVIN PUT THE FUCKING WALL DOWN">They're pushing into the wall to try get to the enemy outside of the bubble>"KELVIIIIIIIIIN FUCK YOUR DOGSHIT BRO">Another match as Kelvin>Got ganked by 3>Infernus was with me>I'm half health, we're trying to run, it seems pointless>Put the Bubble up trapping the 3 gankers, box them>Giving the Infernus the oppertunity to run>He just sits at the edge of the bubble>I die>Bubble goes down>They 3v1 him>he diesI don't get it how the fuck are you supposed to use Kelvin's ultimate if it's not for the purposes of putting the fight in your favor? We get buffed inside, they get slowed. I Bubble with an ally with me usually so force a 2v1 or a fight where it's in our favor number wise and they can't run but people LOATHE this
>>498720147yes lol if it reduces abrams shoulder charge it reduces all of those others ones
>>498719459Six stacks only face other six stacks; the matchmaking system just doesn't exist it's a myth because Yoshi is legally retarded
I didn't realize Boundless Spirit gave 15 regen. That's kind of a weirdly huge amount to be slapped on to the item.
>>498720885no they dont
Ok i take my words this nigga WRECKING shit on melee dox in high mmr lobby
Can you not see match MMR prior to being placed?
>>498720295this was a solo unranked match and before that another there where two people partied together and dc'd like 5 minutes into the round
Kelvin players 100% enjoy getting pegged
>>498721004goober is a beast + even if you dont use the melee with the melee items on paradox the speed you get for roaming with hmc is brokeni got him on my team a couple days ago and we somehow convinced the entire team to buy magic carpets
mcginnis overtuned or what jesus christ her ult does so much fucking damage>just get close to hernot with her team there I'm not
>>498721029the match i described was also an unranked match and was a complete 20 minute stompsometimes you just get lucky and get actual humans instead of half sentient troglodytes in your team
Predicting i'm going to be placed in Seeker rank
>>498721412did you just play in that 41m game?
>>498713324>NA is by far the most scared, slow and inactive region in LoLna, ive seen challenger Korean games and dudes will just stand next to each other in lane and wont even harass and just farm like the other person isnt there. the most boring shit ive ever watched. games just end in like a 25 minute/8-15 kill time period
what are some decent youtubers/CCs to watch in order to learn the game a bit further while I'm not actively playing? I have like 100 hrs in but I'm still a fucking donkey when it comes to this game
>>498722361Make sure you're staring at your mini map at all times
damn valve is really doing holiday dirty that character will not have the same kit at allthey also added with calico you can tp yourself to the cat turret anywhere from the map so in theory you can leave that shit in another lane to stop a push or to keep the lane push and call it back or tp to it at any time
>>498722325Osaka sure is nice this time of year.
>>498722729I hope if we meme this hard enough they'll give us something canon related to it like a vacation photo in the background of a comic with kelvin in japan
>>498722361push waves and try to control more of the map than the enemybuild items based on what enables your team the most whether that's you bursting someone or reducing their healing or living long enough and wasting the enemys spellsmaster those 2 concepts and you will be good
>>498722361just watch high mmr replays
Is there a setting that mutes all communication?
>>498723093I hope not, bitches need to uninstall it they can't handle the bantz
>>498723157all bantz will do is get you muted if you talk to much shit
>>498720848you go full reachmaxxing for a giant bubble that hard counters most ults in the game and with the 3rd perk and enough spirit gives 500 regen
>>498722361don't watch anyone, everyone who is good right now did it on their own volition.read all the item descriptions and abilities so you understand what shit does.look at the map, make good decisions on where you should be instead of just bumbling around.maximize your game presence whether it be soaking up farm, lane janitoring, or being in key teamfights/objective contests.focus on improving in some manner every game even when you're losing.watching people CAN help but there are a lot of clowns in "high elo" that you shouldn't copy that are there by sheer volume of games they're playing.
>>498723157i can handle bantz but i dont want to hear someone whine into their mic for the entire game despite not contributing anything of note to the team
>>498711924>forgetting the one where they make her indian
>>498724254Is it crazy I like this design way more?
>>498724254love this one desu, weeb bait is getting boring but this would be cool
>>498722502im not sure why valve doesnt allow us to just play these heroes isnt this an alpha test and these are clearly more ready then mirage if the characters sucks or we dont like them just disable them or some shit or just change the kits like you been doing the whole time
>>498721670No
LIST OF BROKEN GUN ITEMS: warpstone, shadow weaveLIST OF BROKEN VITALITY ITEMS: return fire, improved bullet armor, majestic leap, metal skin, soul rebirth, unstoppableLIST OF BROKEN SPIRIT ITEMS: decay, slowing hex, ethereal shift, knockdown, escalating exposure, curse, echo shard, magic carpetwow would you look at that. spirit definitely got giganerfed and we're not in a stacking greens meta guys. idc if it requires you to aim, gun is still le OP!
>>498724879Gun is inherently stronger than spirit because it's significantly better for pushing down objectivesA team a spirit fags would have to win multiple teamfights late game to finish off the patron whereas a gun team would probably only need to win one
>>498724879this poster is an anally anihilated haze main
>>498724879warpstone on geist is so funnnnn
actual wintraders in my (((high mmr))) games0/13 retard thinks he can walk up to naked mcginnis level 0 literally 0 souls minute 0 and he won't get walled and gangbanged
spirit is stronger in the early and mid gamegun scales much better into the late game and is better against objectivesthis is balanced
>>498724879forgot silencer
>>498725132lmao thats crazy to think about but its big in dota 2 so i wouldnt be surprised and since the pool of players is pretty small you can easily catch them
>6-1 for rankedFeels good.
>>498722361>omega tryhard but awful personality tierDeathy, chazm, MikaelS, smeefu>seems like mid to high MMR and tolerable personality tierMast, WehSing, Venenu, Poshypop, Schizug>mediocre clickbait tierAverageJonas, Your Deadlock, ottr, fineokay, Gameleap, Eskie>blatantly steals other people's content tierSoulSyntax, Deadlock Proview>shit talking low mmr troll tierTrikslyr>actual less than 50 games noob tierMFPallytime
>Pocketwhat other characters should we get? I want shoelace
>>498725393Deathy's not that bad, especially compared to MikaelS. MikaelS is totally unwatchable because he hardly talks and whenever he opens his mouth he's just muttering. All he does is upload unedited footage of his games.
>>498725167>this weapon item that a single hero builds once in a blue moon is as comparable to the single greatest point and click CC item in the entire game for shutting down a fed carry.>>498725393I won against schizug once.
>>498723157What bantz? People are just straight up useless and talking for some reason.
What's the grenade Kelvin build?
>Geist is low>chase heram I actually retarded?
>>498725753>geist isnt even low and i still need to run away because she wont stop doing a quarter of my max hp each shotlove this character
>>498725393Lol aka if one of you Negros are actually entertaining and are high mmr you might able to become the next Gorgc because deadlock doesn't have one and i actually mean one entertaining content creator
>>498725978>Gorgc>entertaining
>ping that i have warp stone and combo up on my way to purple lane to back up haze vs talon + kelvin>haze lands a knife and hits talon to half hp right before i get there>come in and start chasing>he backs off to do camps and leaves me with my dick in my hand 2v1i would ban the retarded jungle farmer heroes every single game if i could
>>498725753just chase at a reasonable distance and account for warpstoneor just get some form of silence
>>498725359I'm 9-4It's been a much nicer experience than standard so far
>>498726013He might not be entertaining to me or you but clearly he found his wave
>4 months without ranked>fun>they add ranked >the only change is that i now get tilted every time bebop hooks meExplain this
what is it with this spirit not scaling meme? people unironically think that because yamato falls off a cliff, while forgetting that p*cket, mohammad & kareem, and infernigger continue being useful even in the "late game" (in infernus case, being optimal late game). gun literally has no place in a game that hands bullet resist out like candy.>>498726047your mic, bro?
>>498726251You been playing ranked this whole time lol it's just solo queue
>>498725978who the fuck is gorgc
>>498725681rapid recharge heal booster burst and reach
>>498726297>gun literally has no place in a game that hands bullet resist out like candyit doesnt matter, Headhunter still chunks people for 10% of their health
>>498726297i literally said i was coming purple for talon retard why do you think haze went in 1v2 right before i got there
>>498726047If you don't use your mic you're the one griefing
any late night inhousers or should I queue up?
>>498726378https://youtu.be/1s6KgQZEUF0?si=0bQd_faSpv-pXLIR
>>498726297infernus is a special casepocket and lash both fall off late game and mo is picked for his sustain, not his damage
>>498725393>poshypopposhypop sold out when he stopped playing ivyfake ivy bro..
>play ranked to try to get better matches>the matches get worsehow
>>498726665Mo is picked for his fukcing disarm that shit is turbocancer
God DAMN can new players ruin a game.
>>498726802Shitter mmr
>>498726802works on my machine
>>498721337Sovl
>>498725393you forgot vegas
>>498713846Like what the fuck is this? These matches are worse than unranked. Im being actively punished with unbalanced teammates until I finally break
>>498726802>>498726839forgot pix
>>498725393poshypop's mmr is extremely high retard
>>498713846>Ranked keeps giving me multiple teammates who have never played the game beforeyou need 50 games played to enter rankedthey're just REALLY bad
>>498692918https://project8-data.community.forum/video/4/4476-b6dfe062a94702275e1e87a4a872b33f.mp4>you will never play infinite staminakino again
>>498721337>He pushed?>Carpeet.
>>498726942forgot pic
>>498726949They were feeding on purpose you mouthbreathing retard
If anyone on my team says gg ez I call them out for swarthy behaviour.You should too.
>>498727109What do you think is wrong with this picture? There's literally nobody who's clearly out of their depth. Seems like it was a fair game; it went on much longer than the average and everyone was fully participating.
I'm glad they got a Japanese person to voice Yamato but why didn't they also get the Japanese person to look through her lines
Seven only gets good when you have 50k souls
>>498727141I always say ez to cause spergouts
>>498726521it's bad ever since it stopped being built out of high velocity and giving 50% velocity.
>>498725393Vegas is pretty funny and really good, even if its just on gooboy
>>498727141I only say gg ez if i played the worst on my team or got stomped in lane
>go 2/16/4 >say ez lashbro BTW
>>498725393jesus christ have you really watched all of those to have an opinion on their personalityzoomers are insane
>>498726605third worlder's tyler1, sad
>>498727252>I'm glad they got a Japanese person to voice Yamatoim not, the first ones had sovl
>>498725393>WehsingYou mean SingShit :)Jkjk singsing is okay washed up dotardCan i become the le.funnyman of deadlocking if im not that good at the gameT. Bug shakerBut yeah you are right, its prime time for some content creators to pop up on youtubeAlgorithm keeps throwing me people on yt
>tfw get nervous even in standard games
>>498727882cute
>>498727141I always say "let's not be sore winners".
>>498727746Do you speak Japanese
>>498728170yeaharigayto
>>498725393chazm is chill, i'd watch him more if he didn't one trick lash
ranked games have suprisingly tight matchmaking , I was "this" close to uninstalling with how shit regular matchmaking was
>>498727024hi poshypop
>another rank loss because haze one trick teammate unable to build rightHow do you get to 40+ min game without unstoppable. Literally buy every useless shit but unstoppable. It's so tiring.
>play bebop>dynamos teleport counters my entire kit
>>498722361hydration is good and never does anything retarded
>>498728515That sounds promising...I want to play ranked but I can't imagine taking a game in alpha seriously. I just want to try out builds.
I'm just gonna spam Kelvin.
>>498728515Idk man i got pretty fucking dumb haze player and a zero impact abrams who kept talking all gameIf not for me and a god miku we would lose horribly
>>498728515Regular matchmaking and ranked matchmaking are the same for me.
>>498728705ranked has better matchmaking but the players are also a lot sweatier and you probably shouldn't bring experimental builds in
>>498727141I say it as Lash, win or loseI also go out of my way to flog infernus and wraith especially
Isn't every gun build also a melee build? You just choose not to punch as often. Orange items also increase punch damage.
>>498729253Doesn't it say weapon damage instead of bullet damage
>>498728515mine is the exact opposite experience. They are somehow worse and unbalanced than normals
>>498729150>not bebopcertified fake lash player
Why am I so ass at shiv?
I lost 5 games in a row all ranked and then 1 unranked game. I feel like I should delete this game it makes me feel like shit
>>498729594you're an honest player
>>498729706we go again
>>498729594you need to stay active to keep your rage up so you aren't having to build a full meter mid teamfight is what i'd guess blindly
>>498728712bro samelane jannies win games
>>498728515I got teams that communicate way more.This is good and bad because every shotcall is>ONE PERSON DIED? LETS DO MIDbut it also helps a lot during laning so idk Skill feels about the same...maybe a little better because people aren't trying out new characters.Yet!
why is his name seven
>>498730552Because six was taken
>>498730552because seven ate nine
>>498729594theres a learning curve to him, movement is very important
>>498730552he got seven death sentences I bet
>play a "support">let the "carry" farm camps and lane>he doesn't use the farm>we loseShould I just stop doing it?
>>498730807>play a "support"are you a girl?
>>498730892No but I don't like playing carries
>>498730552cuz the six arch mages were afraid of 7
>>498728170no
>>498730972>Not female>plays supportHow is your transition going?
>>498730552if i take that hat off, will he die?
>>498729253Most true gun carries don't have the durability to support a melee centric build.
>>498731039Show us on the doll where dynamo touched you
>>498730807if youre below like 2400 or playing solo dont ever play "support"
>>498731097I don't have the gif of him Warp Stone ulting me out of the air in the one inhouse I was actually carrying that led directly to us losing
How do i build seven?
>>498731223I generally start with the top line left to right and draw diagonal line down.Looks nice and clean.
>>498731223Balls
>>498731331lol
>>498731039>namefaggot>calls other tranniesKEK
>>498731223LIGHTNING
Just tried melee wardenThey gotta do something about melee man this shit is easymodeYou don't have to be anywhere near someone to chunk them for a billion damage
>>498727057
What do you think makes Seven good edgy as opposed to bad edgy?
I'M DOING IT
>>498728623>put a bomb on dynamo>he teleports>get a free hook -> uppercut
>>498731567He's based about it
>>498731567His design embraces it in an earnest way. Compare him to Reaper from Overwatch, who is absolutely playing into the "dude so edgy" shtick.
>>498731223First ballThen 3 Then stunThen ultFarm lots and spiritmaxMake EE your first T4 Don't neglect scaliyyour gun's ammo and fire rate for better value on 3Throw balls at teamfights and run people down with stuns while shooting them with 3Ult when a teamfight is closing and try to do it from the skybox so you don't die instantly If your team is smart they will push under your ult immediately, otherwise everyone will shoot you and you will die
>>498728623>play bebop>get to lane against viscous/ivy/geistthanks valve, didnt want to win this lane anyway
>>498708165lets start a club
>>498731739for me it's laning against kelvin as paradox. every time i decide to play her i just have to lane against kelvin and i can't leverage my wall in lane at all
>>498728623>lash against dynamo>grapple to bait out the entanglement>"good, he used it">stomp anywayi can't help it
>>498731567Because he doesn't talk much or say weird shit (relatively) and watching him zoom around the map is goofy
>>498731567Cool outfitRecognizable silhouette Cool voiceLines that are vaguely distinguished and proper, more old timey villain vibes than >>498731683 dude so edgy vibes>Ivy, you are saccharine, but useful.>Tsk. No-no. (when you parry or stun someone)>You DARE lay your hands on me!?>Like I said Maurice, Krill is only dragging you down!>THE HEAVENS BOW... TO ME!!!He's just so great.
>>498731567the trick to "good" edgy is that there needs to be elements of earnestness and dorkiness. the earniestness is that he isn't a card carrying supervillian that loves being capital E evil, he's a megalomaniac mass murderer lightning man but he'll still thank his teamates for doing a good job in a way that feels legit and he isn't either constantly making corny jokes or playing it hyper straight. the dorkiness is in the weird quirks to the character like his cartoon skeleton during his ult, his weird hatred of kelvin for no reason again you need some elements of levity without being corny about it which is a pretty specific line to tread for another good example of a beloved edgy character that hits these two niches, vergil in dmc. he's a power obsessed katana twirling asshole but he has his moments of vulnrability with his family issues and his quirks like his nasaly voice or him being a fucking weaboo that thinks guns are for cowards and katanas are #1
>>498731567He looks boss while doing it.
>Get shit kicked in that we are down 2 walkers by minute 25>Patron is weakened before 30>manage to get the dream Lash ult where I throw 4 of them into fountain and kill them>chase the 2 stragglers down>get mid>Actually push back and clear a shrine>team overcommits and gets wiped>back and forth for another 10 minutes>eventually lose >McGinnis "gg ez"Why are McGinnis players universally niggers?
>>498731687so you're saying you max ball fully, then max 3 fully? I've always been getting cooldowns for 2/3 first before getting ball maxed
>full spirit CDR mcginnis>15s ult CD>that damageholy FUCK this shit is stupid
>>498732178WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO
>>498732228LEEDLE LEEDLE LEEDLE LEE
>>498732251LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDLE LEEEDLE LEEDLE LEEE
>>498732171You max ball first because that extra meter and DPS 1. Let's you shove waves instantly 2. Let's you suck up farm instantly 3. Gives you immediate impact in early ganks by just throwing a ball at someone fighting someone else to slow and melt themBut the first two are more important; level 3 ball is vital to your economy. More often than not I will get that first level in Stun for cooldown if it's a tough lane, but if I'm rolling I just save it all for ball for that sweet ez early level 3 camp clear. Farming fast and shoving quick will get you your other levels faster than if you waited to level ball to 3
>playing ranked>game start, going down zip, no one has spoken>some guy makes monkey noises over the mic>every single mic on my team lights up making chimp screams and shitWe crushed that game too it was bliss
>>498732171you max ball first because it lets you farm faster and 3 is useless before you get your major items (EE and mystic slow)
3 wins and 13 losses recently.This game feels like fucking ass lately. Shit just snowballs out of control so quickly and all I've been getting is lanes as Ivy and Kelvin against McGinnis and Bebop. This shit is making me want to quit the fucking game because I'm having zero fun in any of my games.
>>498732580what is your ivy build
Also with seven ball and ult to almost the same DPS so if you really, really want to melt someone, hit them with that good good double stun, put a ball on them, then ult. It's mostly to be insulting but sometimes getting one person from 100-0 instantly is desirable
>>498732580If you don't want to lose lane just play Paradox.
>>498732580yeah they def changed something, im getting stomped as well and sometimes do the stomping but my seven/haze/infernus needs his 16th item and wont leave the jungle so i still loseweird thing is i even get new players with ~20h on my team when i have ~100h and am probably expected to carry their asses with that hero im currently learning, feels bad
>>498732796>>498732580this means yall got carried
>>498732694>tells him to pick a hero that can make him lose lane harderwhat did he mean by this
>>498732408my experience in these games has almost universally been that the teams that goof around in voice chat end up being really good
bros where the fuck do you get that mod that swaps mo & krill like this lmao
>tfw immortal dotard>constantly having to lane against Adderall zoomers that last hit every orb within 30ms whereas I'm lucky if I can get them within 300ms so I'm constantly getting fucked in lane>only winning because I feel like I have a better game sense after laning phase and know how and when to pick fights/push/do objectivesIt's fucking hell, laning phase hurts
I think I'm in wood MMR, but I get a lot of compliments / telling me to kill myself from people during the laning phase. Maybe people at this level expect you to just peacefully confirm / deny instead of harassing them.
>>498733347mod? just pick krill and mo on the select screen, retard.
>>498732997>tbag taunt to bait out heavy meleegenius
>>498733347>he doesn't know how to put in the secret icefrog code to play as Ko and Mrill
>>498732850>tripfag being stupid again
>>498725006Except you only really need 1 or 2 gun heavy heroes to push objectives, rest can be spirit heavy which is far stronger and more forgiving in teamfights.
>>498731997>Like I said Maurice, Krill is only dragging you down!I mean, is he wrong? mo does all 4 of their abilities, is their health pool and does all the runing around. all krill does is hold a gun and give him a second headshot hitbox
>>498725006just buy mystic shot, bam problem solveditem is gonna get nerfed
>>498725006>tesla rounds+soul shredderoops took your walker!
>trying to spam out my actives>accidentally open the shop five timesACK
why dont more people buy alchemical fire on m&k
>>498734030why don't more people buy alch fire in general.
>Friendly Yamato is low>Tries to go back to base heal>Enemy Grey Talon sends out the ISBM owl>I block it since I have plenty of healthGuided Owl is just annoying when you aren't low on health.
>>498734030why don't you eat my penis you ko and mrill enjoyer
>>498733371Take the meleepill and your laning woes will be far away
>>498734030Do you buy it instead of torment pulse, or in addition? Honestly need to just start trying it out, been trying out veilwalker and enchanter's barrier and was really enjoying that over armor build (though it falls off dramatically late game) so I need to just stop buying torment and buy fire.
>>498734030i already have four other active items
Thoughts on withering whip?
>>498727057I started playing only a couple weeks ago and damn the game looks way better now. If this was a game by Riot it would still look like that or even worst in order to run on the most poor people computers possible like Valoshit and League of dogass.
>>498733993>>498733949>>498733869>spirit is better because you can just buy weapon itemskek, retards
>>498734241Never bought it since I don't really play gun characters but Deathy said it might be one of the best items in the game since the fire rate debuff is better than 6k cost items.
>>498734202>go for the melee secure>lose 50% hp by peeking out of cover for 1s
>>498734242I don't know anything about either of those games really, but I'm pretty sure the reason Valorant looks like ass is because they wanted it to be as readable as possible for competitive playLike how every CS pro plays on below minimum settings on purpose with color filters on their game so it's easier to pick out enemies
>>498734261mystic shot scales with spirit and is incredibly cheap you idiot
This tripfag spends his entire fucking life here Jesus christ
>>498734478but it consumes my Mystic Burst CD and I have to wait now
the current patch sucks so much I can't stand this right now. each game is predictable and boring
>>498734405If their goal was readability and clarity they wouldn't have guns that are dragons doing crazy animations on the screen or this gameplay:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjalFNn7OsU
>>498734241good item to support gun builds that don't want many spirit items
>>498725393what's awful about mikaels's personality? he seems pretty chill
>>498692912It won't save you, I'm all-in on dropping your ass before you can drop mine.(Buy silence, knockdown and spirit resist)
>>498734485i blocked him and turned off recursive blocking, lets me see what people are talking about without his obnoxiously bad opinions. tripfags have been cancer since forever. been here since 2008 and the only good tripfags i've ever run across are ones doing legitimate giveaways or advice / talking about their own programs and shit on /g/.
>>498734241mogged by slowing hex
>>498734749>knockdown for melee characternah im buying curse since noone plays vindicta or talon anyway
Honest to god, if you're trying to solo large camps as fucking m&k, abrams or some other shit sustained damage character you're throwing the game and i will report you for griefing. I've seen so many retarded abrams just standing there shooting their 20 second reload shotgun at the large camp for literally like over a minute while a walker gets killed 20 meters away from them
>>498734854taking out ancients as abrams is fine if you have reload on punch and the aoe zap. i never remember item names.
>>498734241It honestly should just disarm
>>498734654All that flashy stuff is the shit you're trying to read tho, the map is just a canvasIf casual players would allow it, every competitive video game would take place here
>>498732997is paradox with melee items actually any goodi cant tell if its good or if im just blinded by the fun
>>498734980it seems good because of the surprise factor of people not being used to playing against it
>>498734980absolutely notnow hazehaze with melee + spirit items is fun. sleep dart, heavy punch, echo shard, sleep dart, heavy punch. it's not great. but it's fun and usable until endgame which you become useless.
>>498734030>warpstone>return fire>metal skin>cursesorry chief im full
whats the best character to rat with? i wanna end their base when they 6man to kill my walkerstried MK with some success with monster rounds + qsr and then you can burrow + fleetfoot + divine barrier fuck off but i need moremcginnis kinda dies if touched once by any high mobility character
magic carpet is actually good and not just on Seven, Miku Bebop and Yamato also get a decent boost out of buying it
>>498735102I saw a clip of someone building her full CD and duration, so you could sleep someone and by the time the sleep was over it would be off CD and you could sleep them again until they diedidk of that's on current patch
>>498735182yeah but its 6k you could spend on significantly more damage
>>498735159mcginniswraithpocket is okay if you're good with his cooldowns
>>498734960Competitive clarity isn't an excuse for the game looking like shit. R6 Siege is a game that has great graphics which has zero readability problems. They made multiple updates over the years removing things that make the game more suitable for a competitive scenario and it still looks great. Valorant looks like ass because it's a poor people game. Same for league of shartness.
>>498716363On sunder for the big nuke :^)
>>498735159probably Wraith, you're basically made to force them to divert a minimum of two people to trying to get you to fuck off
>>498735159use the same items on kelvin with ice path, burrow in the z axis
>>498735079well im gonna keep playing it because its working out for meive been only playing abrams and melee paradox latelyim addicted to doing funny shit with heavy melee cancels
>>498734980only because he's abusing kinetic carbine & fleetfoot to cancel the melee charge for movement/parry baits.
>>498735254it gives you more raw base spirit power than any other 6k spirit item except boundless
I'm more of a low APM kinda gamer, the more I can do with less key presses the better
>>498735118>no unstoppablelol
>>498735391>Competitive clarity isn't an excuse for the game looking like shit.Actually it is. The more the focus is on pure competition, the more visuals get in the way.If your point is just that the focus in Valorant isn't that much towards comp, sure whatever.This is the single highest skill cap/competitive focused game ever made, and it looks like this these days because of it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK3JPsQCN2w
>>498735686yeah but the other items simply have more impact
>>498735864I feel like I never actually feel the Mystic Reverb
>>498735864eh, it's an alternative majestic leap if you want the extra green slot for some reason. you could spend that money on curse or EE or diviners anyway because spirit has some of the best actives in the game for telling people to fuck off but carpet is still a strong option, just not a first pick
>>498735827I don't disagree with you, if it was the autists choice all competitive games would look like that I agree. What I'm saying is that Valorant doesn't look like shit because it's trying to be competitive and the fact it is full of animations and garbage is a clear(heh) testament that they don't actually give a fuck about it. In fact, as someone that played both CS and Valorant for a while I can tell you that in CS it's a lot easier to see what's going on given how simple the gameplay is. Clarity doesn't just mean visuals. Clarity of gameplay is very important, our brain is very good at simply tuning out things that don't need to be seen. You can see your nose now. The fact I know what a smoke looks like and everything I can expect to see coming out of it is much more important than it all looking like shit and there being 20 different smokes of different colors. sizes and weird characters flying and jumping with rockets coming out of those smokes.
>>498736241>carpet is still a strong option, just not a first picki think its the last pick out of all the options you either need or want for more damage or utility
>>498735159yamatobuy all the attack speed items and ult+magic carpet away whenever there's too much heat to deal with.
>>498734343>melee lifesteal>extra regen >spirit strike >enduring spirit Become ungovernable If someone gets within ten feet of you punch them in the mouth
>>498735159viscous, As soon as trouble shows up just ult away, no items necessary.
>Go anywhere else>Everyone agrees spirit is the strongest>See the post match results of my games >Every time most of the lobby is filled out on purple>Watch any high MMR streamer>Their post match results>Same thing>Come to this general>Get gaslit that gun is OP and spirit is dogshitHuh?
>>498736254I've literally written research papers about readability in games (college game dev).Not having a row of plants or ambient occlusion shadows behind a player model /will/ allow you to process and begin reacting to it a few ms faster, even if it's already very easy to see.Riot could absolutely make Val look good if they wanted without any performance impact, so it has to be a conscious choice for some reason, and this is the only one that makes sense.
>>498734261spirit is better because half the weapon items are also secretly spirit items meaning spirit has double the slots
>>498736323what games are you playing where a get out of jail free card or free engage is a last pick
>>498736631I don't give a fuck about your appeal to authority nigger, I'm right, you're wrong, plus you're a double gay nigger.
>>498736798Spirit also requires less mechanical skill and is much more consistent
>>498736870what games are you playing where someone buys magic carpet over literally anything else as 6k spirit item?
>>498736596>high MMRthere's your problemyou have people swearing up and down on gun in here and downplaying ridiculous shit like magic carpet or ethereal shift because "muh stats" like they aren't already gamewarping when fighting people that actually know what they're doing
>>498736915>Spirit also requires less mechanical skill nah, all the things in this game that actually take aiming are spirit nukes. gun builds either have unlimited ammo to spray with, bullets the size of grapes, shotguns that keep a tight cone past 5f or CC to line up shots
>>498736798But half the spirit items are also secretly weapon itemsIt's almost like building a mixture is really the best
>haze is about to be knocking on our yellow walker>"yo seven help our walker">he just does the hard camp while our walker diesof course. why the fuck did i think anything else would happen.
Spirit is better because I can't aim
>play lash/dynamo/mirage>lift people with 1you don't actually need to aim to use gun
>>498736995>Having to hit a single bodyshot or a mile wide AoE effect is le...hardYou don't play gun
I just buy the best items from every category instead of swearing my undying allegiance to a color.
>>498737334Yes, we're well aware you're low MMR
>>498734030You should buy alch fire on every hero in pubs to push objectives because god knows my teammates won't do it
>>498734714Russian seething at finnchad 100%
Headhunter needs a nerf.
>>498737762why lol
You're in a lane and your opponents are:>MichaelS (Paradox)and>Chazm (Lash)What do you do? Probably this: https://youtu.be/ng0YlEER6QI
>>498737873Chazm I do not care please stop uploading games from 10 patches ago
>>498737873Wraith 100% gets soaked just looking at the majesty that is The Lash
>>498737971I agree with you anon, but still it's a good video. Nothing really changed for Lash anyway.
>>498737105Im noticing people have a big inclination to never shove waves, if I'm not pushing to the tower or walker it simply never happens
>>498738525>clear one wave>farms the entire jungle>repeatLiterally my team for this past week.
>>498737873>What do you do?Win.
>>498737836Too good, everyone gets it now.
>>498738525Every time I step past the halfway point of the map alone for more than 15 seconds I get ganked unless I'm up by at least 3k
>>498739292Sounds like a skill issue.
>>498737289mile wide aoes can't run after you like gun builds do
>>498739342I think it's a character choice issue
Laning against Infernus is pure AIDS.
>>49873929290% of splitpushers quit before they get within the range where they can damage the objective
>>498739292never reply to me again, tripnigger
>>498739717okay
>>498725393I like Deathy, Chazm, Poshypop and Schizug :)
>>498724540>>498724705hello sars
beloved fuckugly mongrel entity
>>498742039>fuckuglyBetter than 80% of the mutts I see on dating apps these days
may be the most awful forced 50 game i've ever seen
>>498742039I wish gargoyles were real
this game is basically dead and I honestly blame the rock paper scissors mechanics. Item countering is lame af and some lane setups are just shit to play against. Laned against a Grey Talon and a Vindicta and shit is just tedious.
Literally every time I play now the game is uncontrollably laggy for me. So laggy and bad that I even disconnect some times. I do not have this problem in other games (I tested them by playing full matches with little to no problems of any kind), then as soon as I play one game of Deadlock it's like I have 9001ms ping, etc. What am I supposed to do about that? Especially since it wasn't happening at all before. I've tried all the basics like reseting my router, restarting PC, etc. But those have done nothing to help.
miggy>>498743891
>>498722325Kelvin making a fucking tesseract
>>498731039Actually obsessed and rent-free and this is coming from the biggest tranny hater in the world (me)
>>498734126To me it's a great item but doesn't really fit most characters
i love playing mo/infernus/abrams/shiv and the enemy never buys any healbane what so ever
