Laser Edition>Previous>>499464562>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/>NEWSSep 17: 60-Day Patch 1 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7147864422081646859Sep 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXisOct 15: 60-Day Patch 2 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7291982050853715743>CURRENT WARBONDSep 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXis
i think mortars are neat :)
wobby?
>united front taking Lesath>bugdivers are still relatively scattered between two planets despite only one needed defense, and have less playersHonestly if we got the 10k bugdivers over to Lesath we could probably do both parts of the MO before Liberty Day but we all know how impossible that is.
>>499543613fuck you
full disclosure if the Super Earth galaxy were real I'd become the bot
I want the future equivalent of white phosphorous weapons and stratagems, a mixture of fire and chemical. I want to MELT bugs and bots
>>499543613fpwp
LOBBYDOKO
I like senator because it basically says, "no you can take MG if you want, just use me to kill hulks." Or stalwart, grenade launcher, or arc thrower.It's not more efficient than support weapons, it just puts the option on the table so you're not a slave to the meta that support weapons HAVE to kill hulks.
I'll make a lobby... tomorrow...
>>499543613Haters gonna hate but they're great at killing bugs.
Oh fucking fine make a new thread while I'm posting. My John Helldiver loadout is really struggling on D9 bots. Hulks are a major issue now that the OPS has been gutted and you have to hit them with the actual projectile. And I swear it won't kill tanks dead-on anymore either, though that seems inconsistent.I'm very tempted to take EAT-17. I know it's level 3 but the AT is so goddamn useful and it's not that far off the starting block. So now I don't know what to do. I feel like OPS and MG-43 have to stay. Eagle Airstrike is my only goddamn truly useful stratagem... So that leaves me torn between the Supply Pack and EATs. And that is not a great decision to have to make because goddamn the supply pack is useful to slam stims all the time and always keep me topped off.Yet still... Would John be disappointed in me for taking EAT? Would my Helldiver ancestors look upon me with shame? This decision weighs heavily on me.
>>499544260Verdictfags mad that their space deagle only had a few weeks to shine. Disregard. Obviously revolvers are the best pistols you can have on you in space. That's just a fact and you don't need to be in a space faring civilization to know it.
>SoS beacon>sry u can't join, private serverWhy is this allowed?
>>499544190>Still, electric bugs sounds fucking awesome, and yes, I know I'm going to regret saying that.it'd give arc armors have an ACTUAL purpose
>>499544468I'd say EAT is the only acceptable John Helldiver AT support weapon
>>499544556because AH can't code / nu-devs didn't make this game and have no idea how to unfuck it
>>499544556my lobby is public yet if people leave the game will not repopulate my lobbies unless i restart the game.This is even if I drop a SoS beacon
>>499544260Could do that already thanks to EAT and thermite buffs. Senator is just dumb. I ran GL all the time after it was buffed.
The Senator is fun and satisfying and cool and that is all that really matters
>3 minutes without being reinforcedNot sure if brain damage or le time waste prank but TK time
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244582755877/76561198066250760wobby
I want to lick Eagle-1's sweaty feet.
acid rain weather effect weakens armoracid weapons when?
>>499544834It wasn't even the most impactful buff in the patch yet this general can't stop seething about it because it's the perceived reddit gun
>>499544468Supply pack is a crutch item because it incentivizes spamming. EAT is the ultimate scruffy skillshot AT weapon. The choice is obvious anon. With EAT you keep it skillful but become versatile enough to kill anything.
>>499544987>Eagle-1 having feetAnon, I...
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>>499545084She's getting licked.
>>499545046supply pack is only needed if you're using the scorcher and only on diff 9+
>>499544987prosthetics can't get sweaty
Why didn't you guys tell me the Guard Dog is insanely good against bugs?
>>499545187it's very needed for GL, that thing devours yellow boxes
>>499545305She got cheeks.
>>499545323it used to be rather suboptimal due to extreme ammo constraints that are thankfully gone
>>499545046>>499545187supply pack enables the most retarded plays in this game.12 stims allows you to live forever, and you can constantly empty your support weapon and primary.it is singlehandedly the most broken backpack in the game. nothing even comes close to how much it enables a player to just fucking SOLO mega nests and fortresses.it's broken beyond belief
>>499544468My john helldiver loadout is eagle strafe, OPS, machine gun, and mg sentry. Strafe is a good response to hulks and tanks, which the loadout would usually struggle against.
>>499545574you're sounding rather Irish right now
>>499545652i understand that he's living in your head rent free, sorry i reminded you that you are being fully influenced by this "irish" person's existence. i am unironically sorry, anon.
>>499544958If you're not hitting spacebar that's your fault.
>>499545574my favorite supply pack retard loadout is with eingineer perk, gas grenades, and grenade launcher. it's so retarded. I can drench a decent portion of the map in a gas carpet and explosions.
>>499545837I was
>>499545323why dont you try the new shit out when a massive patch drops?
>>499545923Carry on then
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244585292842/76561198070044660d10 lobby dec
I think guard dog easily competes with supply pack, on bugs at least
Hm I wonder if an ally on d10 bugs will drop a napalm barrage 10 feet from an objective we're all standing on today :)
coastin'on board the keeper of the starshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OicQWBphK4
>>499546467I had a retard yesterday drop a napy like 20m away on a fucking 4 warrior outpost. SE is loosing iq rapidly.
>>499546857Instead of McNamara's Moron's we have Brasch's Bitches
>friend got the reinforcement strategem button combo tattooed on his forearm
>>499547024
>>499545323It's been better than Rover for literal months now, you just never bothered to look at patch notes to realize it.
>>499547024Your friends sounds like a retard, and I'm about 90% sure that it's your own forearm
so what's the point of knives?
>>499547024when you think about it that's mainly your fault
crossbowcookoutnapalm barrage500kgthe holy trinity ("um that's not what trinity means sweety. read a book" <- sóyjak) of bugfaggotry
>>499547782They're for stealth players. All 3 of them.
someone asked for the stratagem tier listso here goesfeel free to call me a retard and tell me why X is better than Ytier list is made with D10 in mind1/2
>>499547782So your allies newer know what happened when they suddenly die. The killers name can be discarded oftenly due to retarded calcualtions.
>>4995480482/2
>>499546129full
>>499548048>jump pack>A tier>HMG>A tierretard
>>499548048>>499548313First good stratagem tierlist.
>>499548486whatever floats your boat, anon.this is not a ruleset, this is an opinion
>>499548048>gattling orbital, ac mech, mortar on c>mmg, gattling sentry and strafe on a>mg senty on b>for botshalf of this list is either made by a retard, a shitposter or a biased contrarian.
>>499545637Strafe dead on will kill a Hulk now? Since it struggles to kill devastators sometimes I assumed it wouldn't do much to them. Do you have to vent them?
I don't know if I like the liberator more than the adjudicator, but I do like that it matches my default armor so I guess I'll stick with it for now.
>>499549157It won't kill a hulk, but it'll damage it a lot. It's a lot more versatile than an airstrike and is great for fighting retreats.
>>499548732i am biased against the mortar, this i will admit. too many teamkills on bots and bugs both.gatling b never really shined on bots desu, too small area and they spread out way too wide.>mechs on botscannon tower :^)>mmg gattling sentry and strafe on ayes and?>mg senty on baside from the minor spelling mistake, i don't see it being A when it's much more important to dispatch medium targets fast rather than have a long-lasting low dps sentryplease elaborate more on why am i a retard, shitposter or a biased contrarian.
>>499549157It will if you get a picture perfect hit with one of the shots into the mailbox, or it's back. It ain't doing much otherwise and you will need a minimum of 2 for a hulk.>>499549356No it's not more versatile. You get to fight enemies spread out far more often than you fight a choo choo. Only the extra uses help, but that's cause an entire strafe is equivalent to 2-3 bombs from the whole load of an airstrike.
>>499548486The HMG mogs bugs and it allows you to have a backpack
>>499549558Not him but I get similiar kill counts on strafe run and airstrike. Also strafe run is a lot better for killing fabs, turrets both large and small. More consistent results.
arc thrower
>>499550025I thought it was a total meme weapon until I ran into an arcbro that knew what he was doing. We had some fun tearing up the map together, he zapped chaff out of existence and stunned everything else so I could easily snipe hulks and devs with my AMR
>>499550025>>499550331arc kills hulks in 2 hits
>>499549558>>499549356Seems situational then, when an Airstrike can outright kill it. What I'm wondering is why HE grenades seem so ineffective against them. They're supposed to be able to beat AP4. And I have had them kill a Hulk but it seems incredibly inconsistent. >>499544659>>499545046I suppose EAT is acceptable then. It also does free up my backpack slot so I look like I got straight out of training, which would be the point. It's settled then: OPS/MG-43/Eagle Airstrike/EAT-17.
>>499549558>>499549872here's an argument:airstrike can instantly kill factory striders 100-0 in a single call-in, you only need to hit 3 bombs on the FS, and airstrike drops 6+1can strafe do this?
>>499550613theoretically but unlikely.
>>499550818happened a bunch of times to me. you have to hit the fac strider in length and usually that guarantees the body getting hit thrice. it is somewhat inconsistent though, but 2 airstrike call-ins usually just kill it
Just got home from work. Where we fighting at Helldiverbros? Bugs or bots?
>>499544967>Power went out for a second again3/4, they're on Gacrux. Fuck this storm
>>499551274I am talking about strafe run. Never happened to me but I think it's *possible* looking at the numbers. 100 rounds of pen5 350 damage/200 durable. Still, extremely unlikely.
OPS buff when
>>499551781>100 rounds of? It's 6
>>499552064I hope we eventually get an Orbital Hellbomb Strike. Double the cooldown of OPS for it to compensate.
>>499518423drawfren, you are truly our greatest ally
>>499548048>EAS in Swrong, strafe outdoes it with twice as many charges, swap their places and you're correct>walking yapyapyapbarrages have been moot since they boosted heavy HPs, only good for destroying structures (500kg does this better) and popping chaff (napalm does this much, much better)>supply packoutshined by the dog, and by a lot>rocket sentryMG sentry is on par with this, it should be in S tier beside it>OPSdogshit ever since they boosted heavy HPs>mmglol, B tier>gatlingliteral garbage can sentryobjectively worse for bots than the MMG and the MMG is on a 70sec cd>napalm at Buse it on d10 bots on drops, clears everything smaller than a hulk>laserF tier>ORCF tier>brapA tier>120bronze metal for "least interesting red award">arc thrower A tier>LCB tier>shieldhard nerfed, C tier>AC sentryA tier>MG sentryS tier>C and belowyap yap yap who cares
>>499552134I am afraid there has been a breakdown in communication
>>499551307Gacrux is 9 hours behind schedule because there's a bunch of bugdivers on Phact Bay and Trandor who refuse to budge. Lesath is scheduled for liberation within the time limit though, so that's where your efforts will probably be actually rewarded.
>>499550414host so we can all larp together
>>499552389>barrages have been moot since they boosted heavy HPs, only good for destroying structures (500kg does this better) and popping chaff (napalm does this much, much better)only 4 lines and opinion already discarded for being retarded
>>499552389>counting eagle efficiency with charges when comparing EAS to strafeYeah, i'd expect as much from strafetards that pretend it's some godtier strat. It's not, it's mid.
>remove laser hulks because plebbit complained>ragdoll faggotry even more prevalent The Enshitification of Helldivers 2
I'll just leave the link to the drawings folder here before i go to bed.https://mega.nz/folder/RzFkBLiI#Gk7W86ndTtoLa4G-uTdGrA
>>499553364>enemy goes from having a strong and memorable audio cue and highly visible, dodgable attacks to...>a large rocket barrage that is completely silent, and hard to see unless it's coming directly at youi literally cannot comprehend the philosophy
>>499553094it's good on bugs but i can't see it being used for anything other than le epic fab kill on bots
i think the turrets are more annoying than anything whoever is complaining about hulks is dogshit at the game, i miss when flaming hulks would insta kill you in a certain distance so there was a relationship between the player and the enemy cat and mouse, reddit ruined this, now they have to balance a million billion enemies than just that encounter
>>499550414would machine gun sentry be ok?
>>499553568There's no philosophy. Not a single dev/tester plays high difficulty, let alone high difficulty bots
>>499552389>twice as many charges 3 vs 5? and no, since bots tend to form a concave instead of a straight line, airstrike is usually better against infantry than strafe.it's also better against factory striders as discussed above. the only thing that the strafe has over the EAS is the instant deploy.>walkingi implore you to play with it because you clearly haven't tried it. ever since they fixed the orbital shells ricocheting from heavies, it kills heavies very consistently, kills FS as well if youre lucky. not only that but it's one of the safest ways of destroying secondary objectives and large bases, it also makes taking the fortress a cakewalk.>dog vs supplythe dog has its issues on bots. it tends to fire into shield devs shields, it tries to shoot hulks. it's fantastic vs berserkers, but just "good" vs everything else.>MG vs gatling sentryi personally didnt find it very useful. considering a volley of rocket dev rockets uproots it, i always found the gatling better, because it blows its load faster and has a higher chance of surviving.>OPSnot dogshit anymore since they fixed ricochet orbitals. it actually kills tanks now if you land it on top of them, but that's not the use case for the OPS. the use case for the OPS is patrols and detector towers. gas does this as well but it fails to kill hulks when OPS does.>mmglol is not an argument, it kills every medium enemy that bots can throw at you. it works and it does its job well. removes chickens and devs.>napalm at Bwhere it belongs, airstrike, 500kg, strafe does this much better.>bunch of shit that you refused to elaborate on your opinion is yours and doesn't influence mine :^)arc thrower can become A tier when it can fire through corpses
>turrets are ba-
>>499552834I would if I was not serving my time in the labor camps.
>>499553616strafe is actually a very powerful opener strat vs unaggrod bot patrolsthe sad reality is that unaggrod bot patrols are few and far between on D10
>>499554004with the 30 sec cd adjustment, sentries have an extremely solid place in the game right nowthe only thing i want is the ability to adjust turret programmingi would fucking KILL for the ability to have a menu that just lets you adjust sentry targeting priorities for your callins. never gonna happen but i wish
>>499553693Yep it's a level 1 stratagem. I could see it being useful on bugs but on bots it's a meme pick considering your MG is already doing that job.
>>499552389>napalm good on botsWhat a total asshat take.It's great at denying your entire team a good position. 120mm does the same but it actually lets you move up when its done.
>>499552389>LC>B tier>it is in B tier on the imageokay, i thought you were serious, but clearly you are just making a big funny le trole post here.everything in this post is considered bullshit
>drink a monster>suddenly playing much better than usual>higher avg accuracy and higher killcountsEh??
>mass replied post is hidden>open it>it's because i filtered the word 'yap'>it is a low quality postfeels good
>>499555471>a stimulant stimulates youShocker, truly.
>>499554484Just have all sentries prioritize enemy pings you assign, instead of just mortar sentries. If there's gunships attacking us and I have a rocket sentry down I want it to shoot them first and not the devastator squad it was aiming at before.
>>499555471retard animeposter
>fat man 200 DEF armor>Personal Shield>still get instant killed by a rocket devastator flattening me against a wall with a missile volleyfuck
>the blob is actually chosing bots over bugsAm I dreaming? Did I shift realities again? Is there hope for a brighter future? Have I died and gone to Super Heaven?
>>499555858What's the point of armor or health if they're just going to one shot us anyways
>>499555471same for me with gaming socks
>>499555858some things never change.>standing in wide open not expecting to get absolutely mauled just because you have 2 diapers on youcover is not a suggestion, anon. no amount of protection will prevent you from dying to being retarded
>>499555858i've personally found back cover to be almost or just as important as your front-facing coverif you're too close to a wall then chickens that miss you will just slam your skull into your front cover, and chickens that hit your front cover will slam you into the wallif you're behind a hill you'll roll down the hill for 10 full seconds and just dieyou gotta take it all into account these days
>>499555982bugs is too easy
>>499555858I M P A C TD A M A G E
>>499555982>25k on lesath>24k on other planets (b*ggers literally so disorganized that they can't agree on a planet)im surprised
== Bots D10 Lesath ==Spooky LobbyGet in here.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244594025675/76561197986229160
>>499544260You could already do that with medium AP weapons while hitting their weakpoints.
my cat is okay, any lobbies up right now?
>>499557843yes >>4995574683/4, be fast
>>4995574683/4 one slot open for the BBQ
>>499546129gg, hot drops are kino
>Health for all tanks and cannon turrets: 2100>EAT and Quasar damage: 2000Fuck you AH get your goddamn breakpoints straightened out. Thank god we can still hit the vents from the side or I would actually be mad. I'm also still mad about the OPS nerf. We had a good thing going you dissident swedes.
>>499557468full
>>499552064Legit what is the need for a buff? It's a 1 shot kill every 90sec.
>>499558143*AM rifles*
>>499553961Bots are constantly moving in conga lines, Anon.
>>499555471Now imagine it with Adderall, and you now know why PC niggers are cancer.
Blast from the past
>>499546129
>50,000 reqs>nothing to spend them onEven if they add more stratagems soon, I'll probably be back in the same situation soon. Kind of wish they'd add more uses for reqs so they don't just feel pointless once you've gotten every stratagem worth using. Maybe some additional customization options that cost reqs instead of warbonds/medals to unlock. First thing that comes to mind is color/pattern customization for armor
>>499558704>being actually competent at video games is being cancer
>>499559101>Needing to take drugs to play video gamesLol
>>499559232Do you really think the majority of PC gaymers take adderall to be better at video games lmao ?
>>499559076The easiest solution is if/when they introduce vehicles, allow players to spend some combination of Reqs/Samples to deploy them without using a strategem slot.
>>499558704>PC niggersConsolenig projecting. Post hands
>>499559401No, I think the majority of them are hooked on the shit regardless, but will absolutely take the shit before play vidya. I don't think you realize how fucking hook on that shit people are today.
>>499555858Most of my deaths from impact damage have been so comical it doesn't bother me. >in an autocannon mech fighting bots>mech goes down, get blasted out of it with so much force I slam against a wall and fucking die
>>499546129bot jesus is real
>>499559630They don't even sell that shit in my country.
>>499558704i take no stimulants and i always killmog in hd2 lobbies desu
>>499560113Thanks for carrying my ass when I'm drunk.
>>499558028I think this was specifically to give RR and Spear an edge
super bowl
>>499557978I swear one of the Helldivers' greatest strengths is being able to parkour over everything.
>>499560197Imagine if we had a proper jump button>inb4 jetpack
>>499546129the jumpchad extraction technique sweden doesn't want you to know
>>499561025kek based
>throwing Napalm Orbital on the extraction
les do it, fluteyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWTnPcNBOw
>Bugfags losing their MO objective.I thought they were more autistic than this.
>>499561923they might make a rally through pure autistic brute force. The 9-5 working dads haven't returned from waging yet.
Are the servo outfits from the Steel Veterans warbond any good?
>>499546129jumpchads have it hard sometimes
>>499562374Depends on if you like to spam low cooldown stratagems or not.
>>499562435>people unironically want to nerf the ragdollingIt's literally amongst the most kino things about the game.
>>499562435Bro, I saw this and started lmaoing. I packed the hulk and then I saw you flying over and I was like, "yeah, he'll be alright"Flew into that rock at mach speed
>>499552134anon is talking about BRRRRRRRT Eaglenot BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM Eagle
The Knight smg is godly for the bugs. It's really good looking too.
>>499546129my dog now
>>499563438shreds bots too if you can reliably put cursor somewhere near the face on devs
>>499560184And in doing so invalidates the EAT and Quasar. What's the point of an AT weapon if it can't anti-tank? Would be a different story if we could say, disable the tank turret but it could still shoot the little minigun, or severely slow the Cannon Turret's fire rate. But that's a step too far for B team swedish game designers.
>yfw literally nothing happens on liberty day other than a little dispatch message in-game with a couple lines of text
>>499558267Nope. The projectile is, but if you only catch something in the explosion it's a pitiful 1k damage max. Makes killing Hulks specifically almost impossible in 1 hit.
>>499564267>yfw the next day illuminate drop out of nowhere in a pump-fake
D10 CLANKERS.smooth brains only no creases allowedsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244599932915/76561198076592284
>>499545084Let a man dream.
>>499564152I think it works fine for EAT. You get 2 shots anyway. They also 1taps Hulks to body.It's situational but tanks can also get 1tapped if you hit the vent or rear hull. For cannon turrets it's only the vent.
kino
>>499565531lmao
>>499564769full?
>>499565531This is how powerful a Helldiver can become when he survives 2 missions
>>499566018this must be how Jackal 6 survived on Nublaria according to the armor description
>>499561947nicely done, I need to take the brapnades to bots more. they're stupidly effective. also double barrel gun should be more available, style points to the extreme. I'd give it to everyone that drops in without a support weapon. or make it a mission stratagem.
>>499566914Really should just be a loadout weapon. Make it a primary, give it the option to load slugs or buckshot, and retain the 40 shell limit it has.
>>499544786Nigga that's my entire point. You don't have to take EATs or other support weapons to kill hulks. It's also awkward as hell to call down an eat, pick it up, and then shoot.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244601661874/76561198024623656Attempting to host a lobby, the last try didn't go so great but I have verified and restarted steam so if this doesn't work then I don't know what to do. Bots, D10, Lesath to start but I could be convinced to drop elsewhere.
>>499544468use ops against tanks(you can nade/eat if it does not kill), use eat against hulks and factory striders (shoot one at undercarriage after defanging with mg) nade heavy devs and fabs (heavy devs cuck your mg)
The commando should have its cooldown reduced down now that it isn't a straight upgrade over eats.
>pick MG for shits and giggles>actually pretty good, shreds rocket chickens in seconds>somehow end up with the highest accuracy despite having AMRdudes and DCSguys on the teamnani the fuck
>>499567509damn im too slow for these
>>499567976Sometimes i wonder if you fags actually play the game when i see posts like this
>>499567509full
>>499567318EAT was enough to "free" you from meta slavery as it's a 1 minute cooldown throwaway gun that can be run together with any other support. Senator overbuff didn't suddenly lift MG and GL out of the gutter.
>>499567976>somehow end up with the highest accuracy despite having AMRdudes and DCSguys on the teamAs someone who took AMR and DCS for a while, I couldn't tell you how many time I would aim center mass and i WATCH THE FUCKING BULLET TRAIL GO OFF AT A 15 DEGREE ANGLE FROM THE FUCKING BARREL AND I END UP HAVING TO TAKE THREE SHOTS AT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN ONE
>>499567976The Machine Gun Paradox. Somehow these guns (both HMG and MG) often make you end up with highest accuracy. idk why
Joel is trying to distract us from Lesath I see.
The default grenade has ap 4. Why can't we just pull off a sick mid explosion that blows up a tank?
>>499571131600 damage AP4 on a turret that has like 700 hp or something
>>499571347its has 800 damage now frend
>>499571131You can blow up vents with 1 I think. Though impacts are better for that ofc.Making it so that you can destroy a tank by throwing a grenade under it would be fun.
>tfw anything
>>499571957I still think these should have their TTK increased. At least.
>>499571957termites are so shockingly well balanced that I doubt AH actually is the one behind the rebalance
the changes to just dump all spawns and patrols around extraction when it's extraction time was a bad change, especially when the reason was to pander to the people who waste time sample huntingextraction becomes straight up impossible sometimes>inb4 "hurr durr that's a good thing"
i'm bringing anti-tank mines today and NO ONE CAN STOP ME
D10 bugs if anyone wants insteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244605013476/76561198061988256
>>499573002closing due to not a single join in ~5 min
>>499573502D10 bugs are too hard, we prefer bots here
>>499571957add a recoilless CHAD peaking in from just out of frame who is about to steal his kill
>he doesnt shoot his gun
>>499571957>>499572374yeadamage and armor pen are well balanced by short range ttk and general unreliability>>499572114precission strike yourself irl
>>499573830those should be replaced with stuff like strategem scrambler that has 25% chance of sending random strategem (either random from the ones you equiped, completly random or using random one from your teammates - this would also trigger cooldown tor used strategem)also bombardment accuracy modifier
How the fuck do people find the termanids fun? This is the most repulsively unfun shit in the game since launch.
>>499573830I hardly even notice them anymore. This guy is a shitter
>>499573002host again... i'll join
>>499564769ggi hate rocket stridersi hate rocket stridersi hate rocket striders
>>499574826this but automatons >here, enjoy being perperually ragdoll juggled for 15seconds before dying
>>499574826i dunno, i am a botfag but I like seeing the numbers go up when I throw a napalm barrage onto a bug breach.
>>499575925Because somehow trying to raise a flag while 6 chargers spawn, two of which are spore chargers so you can't see shit. Two impalers, two Titans, and about 20 alpha commanders is better than"literally just hide behind a rock"
>>499573830He's right. Everyone goes for shit like gunship patrols, and poor Intel. >Oh cool I get to use my reds less...Call in time is pretty gay too, as it fucks over a majority of reds that are already pretty weak for players support right now. It's pretty gay we cant just have more stuff to shoot without these artificial difficulty mods. Might as well just have a mod lower the damage we deal by 25% too while we're at it.
>>499574937It's really noticable if you use eagles for call in time, or orbitals/sentries/eats with cool down. They both make precision strike worthless.
== Bots D10 Lesath ==I hate clankersI hate clankersI hate clankersSpooky lobby get in heresteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244607831404/76561197986229160
>>499577058>Manufacturing defect"Ammunition factories in this area had malfunctions so weapon damage is randomized +/-25%"
>>499577335full
>>499577026>literally just hide behind a rock>also here's 10 chainsaw bullet sponges and 3 gunships right on your assyou can just retreat from bugh if you get overwhelmedyou cant retreat from bots when you het overwhelmed because they are dangerous also at range
>>499578359Boy oh boy let me introduce you to your new best friend, the stun grenade—also the purifier. Congrats, the bots are now entirely trivial. Pack the RR for everything else, don't even need reds, you are the red.
Uh oh, bugfags, clean up on aisle Pandion. Hurry up!
tired of hosting you faggots host
>>499578359>He has problems with chainsaws>3 gun shipsYeah man, I get it's like annoying, but this is pretty trivial. Bots are just a DPS check. If you've got a support weapon it should be able to take that out in ten seconds. Gunships are a pain in the ass but there is no reason you don't have the gear to blow them up. >Revolver>Any medium pen primary>Support weaponsIf you don't pack one of those that's on you, meanwhile the berzerkers are just a grenade or red plus a few taps. Like bugs are in your face instantly, 90% of the game is running away from them and trying to micro manage threats within a half second of reaction time. Bots you go prone. You look at your map. You sing a song. Then you shoot them, and go back to dicking around. If they start rounding the corner you kill them with whatever is in your back pocket.Like just go prone and kill rocket based enemies. You are practically untouchable unless you're out in the open.
>>499574724I wouldn't mind stratagem scrambler as much if it only randomized with the same color stratagem
I don't think I really mind any modifier. Even seemingly "lame" things like cooldown increase will change the flow of the game slightly, helping each dive feel distinct.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244608723055/76561198024341162 MO D10
>>4995806143/4
>>499580190nah it would be more funny with complete randomness>dropping supply during encounter>turns into napalm barrageor>throw red into a horde of bugs>turns into EAT podpod impact still kills the bile tita that was chasing you
>>499581032>not let_it_rip.webmone job
>>499581425This is probably the guy that came up with firebomb hellpods.
>>499573830I agree these are AIDs, but the shit I'd put in the game as modifiers would absolutely crater the whinedivers out of the game.
>>499573830christ it's fucking endless. literally anything that makes it even slightly inconvenient has to be excised for these faggots. >you know what sucks and is inconvenient? the enemy being able to hurt us. they should make everything do no damage to us because dying and waiting to get reinforced is just time I'm not having fun or using my stratagems >:(
I think modifiers that disable certain stratagems or weapons would be cool. Force people to change up their loadouts without limiting them.
GRENADE LAUNCHER AMMO TYPES WHEN?I NEEEEEEEEEED IT
>>499584178Id like to see this, but at the same time I'd just avoid the area probably. That and when I come home from work fellating myself to the idea of using HMG again, I'd be pretty pissed if they took the option out of the pool.
>>499584178I think AH should balance their game and have heavies go back to being actual threats by nerfing AT damage, but keeping the other strategems ability to harm them.
>>499584383>EMS grenades>Incendiary grenades>Thermite grenades>Costs a whole mag to swap. It'd be pretty cool.
>they should make hard difficulties harder by adding different gameplay considerations, not just making enemies tougher>okay on higher difficulties you might have to deal with increased cooldown and call-in times>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT IEEEEEE I'M LOOSING MY MIIIIIND >:((((((
If I was a video game developer I would want to add an item or feature to my live service game every week :)
>>499584852Enemies should be tough. I sincerely do not understand why people acknowledge Helldivers are supposed to be average Johns, but can't comprehend that means the enemies should be fucking nightmare fuel.
>>499584781No matter what you do, if something becomes a threat, people will min max trying to kill it. Nerfing AT just means people need to try even harder to min max killing it, and if it's not efficient then heavies just become obnoxious.I will say though factory striders feel pretty close to perfect. If they made the AT weak point the belly, it'd be a lot more exciting fighting them trying to get a clear angle/coordinate with allies to defend it.But then I think we might actually see spear+rail cannon to counter them.
>>499585126There is nothing wrong with heavies being obnoxious.
>>499584852It promotes a gay meta where I just take support pack, support weapon, eagle, and some utility strat. It absolutely cucks red focussed builds, and makes it just gunplay focussed.Difficulty is fine.If you want a challenge, you can self impose one.
>>499585072>Helldivers are supposed to be average Johnsretard
>>499585293Ok.I take smoke and I just aggro enemies away from the rest of the players. Then they despawn.Now no one has to play your shitty redesign.
>>499584178Few (?) threads ppl came up with "surplus mode", where stratagem cooldows would be dependent on pick rate. So strats people use all the time would get their cooldowns increased while off-meta picks get it decreased. I think this would fit very well with game's MMO-ish parts.
Should LAS-98 be buffed? if so, what buff it should get. For me, they should expand magazine size/shoot time by 50%
>>499585730>Get a 2 week crash course training before being turned into a popsicleThey literally are, Anon.
Nothing about Helldivers as a fighting force makes sense and you should give up on trying to make it.
>>499586237>orbitally dropped scouts that gather samples and throw beacons for stratagems onto mission-critical targetswhat doesnt make sense
>>499585932Fuck that shit. I don't want my reload being balanced by whatever the other cunts playing are doing. Literally sounds like the worst shit that tarkov would have..
Grenade pistol or senator for bots? I can't decide bros....
>>499584383>>499584829ummmm im thinking more like mini nuke rounds desu
Dead gameDead general
D10 BOTSsuperearth took my wife's legs.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244613884468/76561198076592284
>>499577335GG
>>499586934Depends of your fucking loadout
>>499587010>failed
>>499587010>Failed to join
>>499587010nevermind game hardcrashed.
>>499587010>failed to joinnigger
>>499587162FIX IT YOURE INTERUPTING MY HELLDIVERS IMMERSION
>>499587036I use>railgun>supply pack>ops>eagle air strike
>at SEAF artillery>3 mini nuke shells
>>499586445>also we throw only 4 at a time and they are like average Joes who were only trained for 2 weeks but they are actually specialists who can use any kind of weapons to perfection while throwing themselves around on the ground John Woo style. Also new helldivers inherit the ranks of previous ones on the ship because they just do, ok?Not to mention destroyers not being able to target stuff from orbit by themselves requires lots of suspension of disbelief. All this tech and that's what they struggle with? Satellite imagery?
>>499587452and your weapons you fucktard ? Basically if you have something like crossbow or eruptor you don't need the nade launcher. Also depends what kind of nades you're using in the first place. Think nigger think
>>499577335GGs anons, thanks for lobby
>>499586139crazy how people say and believe this like they haven't actually played the game
>>499587585so rude :( anywayscorcher(I dunno for this)stuns
>>499586934Stim pistol.-But yeah depends on your loadout. Grenade pistol fell off hard, as fabs are easy to take down now. Revolver is good if you don't have a hulk killing support weapon, and don't wanna wait for thermites. It lets you mulch tanks from the back, and just act as a nuisance.
>>499587687you're right, it's actually just the 5 minutes the tutorial takes
>>499587529Reminder that before you upgrade them, they literally reload the ship's weapons like fucking muskets. Its all bullshit, nothing is supposed to make sense.>>499587694Then you need the grenade pistol you mongoloid, how will you destroy fabs otherwise
>>499587703the revolver IS the new hulk killing weapon, freind
>>499587589>last framesI shot down that dropship for ya from 200m away, ur welcome :)
>>499587790with the railgun? thats how I destory fabs
>>499587849Literally nobody asked, protagonist syndrome nigger.
Reminder the anon saying the armor classes had different armor values was right all along. Light armor inherently takes more damage due to having a debuff along with the lowered armor values. Light Gunner having medium armor values at 100 still is worst than normal medium armor by 10% due to being in the "light armor" class.
>>499587983>using the railgun to destroy fabsBarbaric
>>499586559Would definitely help with forcing people "to change up their loadouts" like that anon wanted.I think it'd be fun. I want more dynamic things like this. Lets say the changes occur every sunday. Battlefield would look completely different each week.
>>499588013
>>499588096>swede math
>>499588096This has been a known thing for months.Are you anons really this retaded?
>>499588119as long as it works
>>499567509ggs anon
>>499588096WRONGWRONGWRONGPOST THE FUCKING WEBMSTOP SAYING THIS STUPID SHIT, RETARD
>>499588127People who want to change their loadouts just do it, like me and most of the dudes i play with. If people just wanna play whatever they want, let them ? Like what the fuck is this idea, leave my shit alone.
lobby?
>>499587589>MFW shooting at the dropship. Locking onto chickens. Killing one chicken and missing the second. And getting the dropship kill stolen by the RR chad.
>>499588265>>499588196So which is it faggots?
>>499588232So, shitposting aside, you don't need the nade launcher, or even the revolver because you have a hulk killing weapon. Either stim pistol or redeemer.
>>499580614>>499580614>>4995806143/4
>>499588196>retaded
>>499588414WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS LIKE 5 TIMESYOU CAN TEST THIS IN 5 MINUTES, AND THERE IS A WEBM THAT TESTS ITSHOOT YOUR FEET WITH PLASMA PUNISHER USING LIGHT GUNNERSHOOT YOUR FEET WITH PLASMA PUNISHER USING ANY NON-FORTIFIED/PADDED MEDIUMSAME RESULT, SAME HPTHIS GUY IS JUST RETARDED, HE KEEPS TRYING TO SPREAD AN INCORRECT NARRATIVE
>>499588275I like randomness. I get bored of playing with same people. But randoms need to be nudged a bit to experiment. I want chaos
>>499588547shut up, faggot
>>499587529It's one of those things where A. That's half the camp, like why send a hell bomb you need to arm yourselfB. Future wars would be like 90% space combat so the entire planet being camouflaged from attacks would be a real possibilty. Beacons might be one of the few things that can pierce this camouflage.Surprisingly they actually handle the whole "destroyer" support thing pretty seriously, and don't just poke fun at it. It even makes sense when you look at a typical barrage. Very rarely do the shells kill anything on their own, and you need to give them a tight cone of reference.
>>499588671Get some friends instead of wanting to shit up my game
>>499588547Oudated webm retard.
>>499588414Light armor takes bonus damage.Anyone that says the opposite is a trolling nigger.
>>499587826It's pretty inaccurate and low ammo count for handling hulks. Most supports handle the job better.
>>499588861>my evidence????>NONE, of course :)kill yourself chink
>>499588671>everyone ends up picking the shit on low cooldown now>everyone is using the same shit at the same timePlease hang yourself
>>499588842Sure. Post an updated webm that shows you're right.
How do I avoid using the resupply pack with a support weapon. Primaries just don't do nearly enough, and reds don't keep up with this either.
>>499588464Alright, I'll think about taking the stim pistol, but I really like the grenade pistol. I can fire a couple into a dropship, wipe out most of the bots, and then finish off the maimed with the scorcher. Plus, I can take out fabs pretty efficiently too. Although I'm a bit against stim pistol because the average pubbie is a dummie and will probably mistake me for trying to kill them or something.
>>499588896I'm not sure why people always push it as a hulk killing weapon when it takes half of your loaded cartridges to do so while also being rather fiddly in aim. It's much better as a "Fuck Rocket Striders" weapon if you're not using something like the AMR or DCS.
>join d9 bot rando>mineral survey mission with bad intel>mission timer is already half over and retards haven't found any ore spots and one one side objective>one retard is off on the other side of the map>I find the first ore spot and practically solo it since the other dude with me is doing fuck all to help>guy on the other side of the map is spamming "bunker" "bunker here" "Still a bunker">decide fuck it and quitWhy do shitters go to higher difficulties? Why am I forced to carry nearly every time I queue randos?
>>499588829No? I'll continue "wanting to shit up your game" (actually improve it). I'll will it into being.
>>499588096Wait medium 100 reduces damage?>So does heavy That explains a lot.
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>>499589196I don't know beg your teammates to share their blues?
>>499589010As I said, this stuff would change every week. For now people use the same shit for 2 months between patches. The changes could be gradual. A self balancing system.
I like the eruptor more than the crossbow against bugs. I feel like the number of bugs justifies the shrapnel
>>499589329Devs are barely able to have a working game as it is, if you believe they could manage that you're even more retarded than i was thinking
>>499589196Visit points of interest and hoover up ammo packs.
>>499589782No
>>499589854Yeah but even then, I don't get stims and nades -Like it's not even that I need it. I'm just trying to set the justification to not take it. Best I could see is like guard dog cause that thing shits out damage. But 8 stims and 8 nades is silly. I don't even need them all, but it makes heavy armor practically untouchable.
>>499589165>devs literally said they modified armor class with different values in the recent patch>nuh uhSo this is what autism is like
>>499589810Weighing the usage of strats against each other and slightly increasing/decreasing cooldows could be done by a simple algorithm. They wouldn't have much to manage.>>499589979Okay you don't like it, I get it. You won't knock the idea out of my head, though.
>>499590407
>>499590272I don't even think hes saying that.He's saying that padded gives you the same armor as medium armor.Which until today I thought the same. Medium being so close to heavy is kinda shocking, and it makes me wonder how shit old heavy used to be.
>>499590407>Weighing the usage of strats against each other and slightly increasing/decreasing cooldows could be done by a simple algorithm. They wouldn't have much to manage.This is the retarded way to do it. >Introduce X which requires Y and only Y>Everyone uses Y>Well better nerf Y until it's unusable>Wait why does our playerbase hate us?
>>499590545They could also make it so that the amount of magazines you get for your gun is regulated by this.Holy kino
>>499587849>>499588162anon who posted the webm here, I asked, thank you RRfren
>brainlets getting filtered by swedish armor system, againkekaroo
>>499548565samefag
>>499590891too far bro' its not even funny this time
>>499589196Predict supply drops and prime the beacon beforehand, so when the others call one down you can call down your own separately and restock. Especially helpful if you wanna shell an outpost from 200m away.
>>499591314Whats the actual timing on that ? I've seen people talk about it but never really managed it.
>>499590764They wouldn't have to nerf much because people would gravitate towards other strats due to the cooldowns increasing and decreasing automatically.>>499591275I would genuinely enjoy this. You don't want 16 magazines for your lib carbine?
>>499591537No i want 20 for my Knight tho
>>499591450When the lid on the hellpod flies off after landing throw down the second beacon.
>>499591639Easy, no one runs this shit
>>499591450Just wait until it says "Cooldown" and then throw it down. You can't be host for this to work though.
>>499589296white man's burden
>>499590580They changed that a few patches ago.They've made it so medium and heavy armor take less damage based on the class of armor you are wearing, with heavy taking inherently less damage than medium just by virtue of being heavy, and same applies to medium relative to light armor.So 150 medium armor =/= 150 heavy armor, but by a margin so insignificant that it doesn't matter.100 is the base armor value, anything below that effectively reduces your health pool, which means you are taking bonus damage.You also have to consider that the damage helldivers take is multilayered and different from how the armor system works for enemies, with different types of damage reduction shenanigans.
I swear to god the number of times you press R and your nigger just simply does not fucking reload like you told them to.Game has been like this since day 1, why the fuck hasn't it been fixed?
>>499592954nah it was differentyour nigger used to pretend to reloadnow it doesn't even try
.io still not updated
>>499592954>>499593216Works on my machine.Stop pressing R so much your computer thinks you're holding it.Or change your keyboards.
>>499587010DEBUNKED and DISPROVEN
Would making the eruptor heavy pen even matter? It's probably the only primary that deserves it.
>>499593695it would make devastators tank only 3 eruptor hits instead of 4
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244618617372/76561198391046460D10BotsStarts when I'm done pissing
>>499593695Considering they turned it back into the weird "shrapnel" thing I don't think it makes that much sense now. I'd rather they leaned harder into giga-aoe bullshit it has now
Ever since they've reverted the Eruptor, I still didn't oneshot a charger with it.In truth, it was never properly reverted.
>>499594206They didn't revert it. They changed the frags. It used to have less but heavier fragments. Now it got smaller but more fragments.
Helldivers are probably very similar to the SS; Young, hardy, extremely loyal shock troopers recruited from the more Well-to-Do sectors of Super Earth society. SEAF training and the general militarism of Super Earth culture ensures they're familiar with weapons and in passible physical condition. SEAF Infantry fodder is mass recruited from the lower classes, I don't think a farmers son has a chance in the Divers. Not to say NO poors ever make it in, I imagine SEAF recruits who score well are offered spots, just not over some Bureaucrat, offering up his own kid to score a few extra social credit points.It's not even a guaranteed death sentence, Helldivers also acted as Peacekeepers before the war, it's just when a war does come along, all hands on deck, get in the fuckin pod, Shinji.Honestly, would join up. Imagine the pussy you could pull as a Helldiver.
>>4995940512/4 Starting now
>>499589239It's also good if you get cornered by devastators in close range. Long range I will just use railgun but up close, pull out the revolver and pop their heads.But yeah the damage is good but you can't seriously rely on it as your specific anti-X gun and tailor your loadout around that. Not at higher difficulties at least. It really is still only a panic "oh shit" thing when you get caught reloading, or a backup tool you want to save ammo for your primaries. Which is fine, that's how it should be.Would be fun to see somebody do a revolver only meme run though
>>499594337>Helldivers get expedited CO-1 FORM approvalI kneel.
>Over 90% of botdivers focused on Lesath enough to liberate it before the end of the MO>bugdivers split 50/30/10% across Gacrux Pandion and Phact Bay failing all of themTruly hilarious.
>>499594532you're the only person who cares about the MOs btw
>>499594797I also caree! :)
>>499594532I wish retards like you could catch up with the fact that neither bugdivers or botdivers are real.It has already been proven that 95+% of the playerbase are MO divers.In the recent bot MOs, there were barely 1-2k bugs players on the bugs front.
>>499594532I'm sure someone could make a very interesting study about the difference in intellect between bug divers and bot divers.>>499594993>there were barely 1-2k bugs players on the bugs front.Taking your dreams for reality i see
>>499594993just let the schizo have his boogeyman
>>499594993Anon, I...
>>499594482When your life expectancy is in the single digits and you're the genetic cream of the crop, might as well.
>bugdivers when they have to fight a faction that is almost exclusively melee despite being made of paper and having a slower movement speed than anyone holding shift
>>499595093I just think it's ironic how he's his very own enemy.When illuminates drop and he stays a botdiver because he can't leave his comfort zone everyone will make fun of botdivers (+bugdivers) for being low IQ, then he will realize how much of a fucking retard he actually is.
D10 MO BotsMaybe we do normal loadouts... maybe we fuck aroundsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244619029158/76561197999417031
>I'm pickle creeeek !!!!-botniggers
>>4995940513/4 you have about 15 secs before a pub joins
How do we explain that situation few MOs ago when botfront won their defense through a gambit, while bugfront was bashing it's head against the wall (they pulled through thanks to retard strength, but still, could've claimed both planets in a shorter time frame than it took to defend a single one)Most people will play both depending on the MO, but the personal preference can be telling IMO
>spend nearly a whole day playing bot>"alright time for some bug vacation">bot jeets: "nooooooooooooooooooo, do not redeem the boogs, ma'mm do not redeemmm"why botnigs and MOshitskins are so insufferable?
>>4995958192/4
>>4995958193/4
>>499595819-99/4started!
>>499596402retard
>>499596019I'm still laughing my ass off when botcucks breaking their backs to get us bugchads the orbital napalm barrage and recently the DSS, they may act as if they are better than us but deep down they know what they are, a bunch of slaves that work to death for our benefit. Watch them chimp out when we hoard the DSS all for ourselves next.
>stinger guard>gains a long tail that starts shooting explosive ragdolling projectiles when it hides behind its shields>entirely replaces hive guards on d9/10please look forward to it
>>499595819STILL 3/4 GET THE FUCK IN HERE
>>>499596019>I'm still laughing my ass off when botcucks breaking their backs to get us bugchads the orbital napalm barrage and recently the DSS, they may act as if they are better than us but deep down they know what they are, a bunch of slaves that work to death for our benefit. Watch them chimp out when we hoard the DSS all for ourselves next.
>Recoilless rifle>the screen still shake like a motherfucker when shooting it
>>499595819starting with 3/4
>>499597168>Democracy Protects>democracy does not protect against the impact damage you take after surviving the explosion
>>499597335it does (sometimes)
what is the most FUN support weapon for botswhat is the most FUN support weapon for bugs
>>499597335it based on chance, pure RNG, you may survive a direct shot from the cannon turret but the impact maybe also kill you unless you're lucky the machine god granted you another chance.
>>499597550HMGMGRunner up: GL on both
>>499597550>botAC, AMR, any machine guns>bugAC, Airburst launcher, grenade launcher, stalwart
>>499597550RR (if less than 3 people are using it)Flamethrower
How many autocannon rounds to the bile titans head to kill it? I've tried killing them with the AMR, took 3 full mags to the head which is 21 rounds.
>>499597914I like throwing gas grenades at hordes approaching flamethrower friends so they can get a lil crazy :)
>>499597550>BugsArc thrower with the buffed number of arcs and additional arc upgrade. Stunlocking an entire wave of shitters, commanders, spewers, and chargers while watching bolts chain through the whole crowd and explode all the chaff never gets old.
>>499597550Depends on how you define fun.If by fun you mean winning? Recoilless and Autocannon are up there for both. Grenade Launcher is absurdly good on bugs, and Railgun and AMR are strong on bots.If by fun you mean enjoyment of using the weapon itself while not being an anchor, MG-43 and HMG are enjoyable to use after the ammo buffs. Against bugs you can also bring EAT and try to use the calldown as a weapon alongside stuns.If you just want to meme, Airburst against bugs is hilarious, and the dopamine hit from a 20+ kill from a single rocket is like nothing else. I also enjoy bringing Stalwart with Peak Physique (bringing an explosive AP3 primary to compensate), because running and gunning is really fun.>>499598463Nine shots, assuming every shot lands.1500 HP, 95% durability, 4 armor260 damage reduced to 65% by armor is 169 damage per shot1500 / 169 = 8.876 shots, round up to 9
>>499591537>They wouldn't have to nerf much because people would gravitate towards other strats due to the cooldowns increasing and decreasing automatically.Let's say there was no way to safely kill X.Like literally no way right?Let's say you make all these other options more efficient. People still use the buffed stuff, but this doesn't fix X fundamentally. You can't just tweak numbers in things to fix things. You just turn the game into a DPS race. You need more theory with shit, and just make things fun.
>>499599105>You can't just tweak numbers in things to fix things.they literally just did this successfully though
>>499597550My friend giggles like a retard when the airburst kills two hulks.
>>499593695A new non-explosive heavy pen bolt-action rifle would be nice.
>>499599105>Let's say there was no way to safely kill X.I don't know what exactly "safely" means here but I think game's sandbox is rich enough for that to be unlikely. Theres always a way.There could also just be a cap on how much a cooldown can increase. >fix thingsMy main intent is to make the meta more volatile. Constant change.
>>499599253They overhauled enemy HP, armor and damage tiers numb nutts. That stuff went pretty well, because they fixed the underlying problems with a lot of weapons and enemies. It's not "minor tweaks" that fixed anything.The small number tweaks they did before didn't really fix anything, in fact most of the time they just over buff shit. But that's also the problem we have now.Like if we see shit like the liberator gets buffed. Every gun in the game should be getting buffed, but you don't see that. Because they're kinda just eyeballing shit.But part of me thinks they just do these lotto buffs because it gets people to play the game when X weapon feels good. Because suddenly it's like having a new weapon in the loadout. They can "make new content" by tweaking numbers up and down. But it's a pretty shitty practice when they take turns with balance.
>>499599737I would agree the games sandbox nature is in a pretty solid state. Just fundamentally I disagree with "tweaking numbers". There are a lot of strategies and items that don't work because of what they do, or things that are OP because how they do it. Very. Veeeeeeery rarely. Will something be grossly imbalanced by pure math. If that's ever the case, your game is a DPS check and nothing but.
>>499597550jetpack + EATthrow EATs onto enemies
>>499601029Y'know what's cursed, if you're good with eat sticks. Eats are basically a Chinese knock off rail cannon..
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244623101442/>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244623101442/d10 bots, diving lesath because bugs are lame edition
>>499601165That's what makes it fun
Are >we botting or bugging?
>>499601506Get in here and kill some bots2/4
>>4996015062/4JOIN JOIN JOIN
>>499601506Full and started
>>499597550ARL
Why hasn't super earth given us a Liberator Pen. with an underbarrel grenade launcher loaded with thermite rounds? This would literally solve everything.
>fullfuck, missed lobbylobby doko
>>499597743this
hmg is so comically bad vs factory striders
>>499603892>every AP4 weapon is so comically bad vs factory stridersFixed.
My headcanon is that any Helldiver who manages to complete a full operation without dying is promoted and returned to cryostasis.
>>499604212can confirm
>>499597550Commando ,stalwart or GL.A rapid fire guided rocket launcher, a low recoil high firerate mg and a full auto grenade launcher.You can also bring a jumppack with all of those aswell.
>>499603892tanks theirs cannons off exceptionally fast.
>>499597550Bugs: max fire rate Stalwart with ammo packBots: Sniper+jetpack overwatch on allies but im a camper fag
>>499603892fine if you're shooting the eye
This game is unironically peak kino. The way it all ties together for some missions to be cinema is pure SOVL.
>>499605113Except bots
>>499605113Except bugs
>>499605064>sniper + jetpack overwatchI sleepstalwart + jetpack overwatchreal shit
>>499605109>100% durable >finelol>>499604952cannon is 5 armor, retardmachineguns die from primaries
I've been really enjoying Commando/EAT/Sentry/Barrage for jumping into the middle of missions. If someone can't get to their support, they can always grab an EAT or Commando, Sentries are really good, and dropping a barrage on the inevitable multi-drop bug break that got them into the pickle helps stop the death spiral.
>>499596494btfo by bugniggers once again
>>499596494>he thinks swedes will not rig voting when they rig MOs all the time
two person bot extracts are straight up nigh impossible now since the stupid change they did to patrols and spawns once it's extract time.
>>499606392skill issue
>>499606640
I really need to stop playing this game while high. It turns me into an absolute, lazy shitter.
>>499596494>meanwhile buglets aren't even smart enough to focus on one defense and are splitting between the two (and losing both as a result)
>>499606973boo
>>499605346Snooze, cant do shit vs bots with stalwart. MMG is mid to ok.
>>499607112skill issue
lobby doko
>>499607112>cant do shit vs bots with stalwartGiga skill issue, it 2 taps dev heads with 1200 something rpm and low recoil, also suppression.
>>499607182Yes you do need to get good. Glad we agree.
>>499607321steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244628440312/76561197996887115LOBBY KOKOD10, DEMOCRACY DECIDES THE ENEMY OF LIBERTY
>>499607336>n-no u!aimlet detected, quit being bad desu
>>499607473>failed to join
>>499607479>aimletIf this guy can't hit shit with the stalwart he might be legally blind or paralyzed from the neck down.
>>499607603Try again? There shouldn't be any issue. It's Public and empty 1/4.
>>499607806I also got failed to join, your lobby's fucked
>>499607473pub aids :)
>>499607603>>499607868>>499607897Fuck. I'll restart.
>pub aids makes it so people can't join you>healthy game makes it so people can't join you
>>499607897>>499607868>>499607603>2 Files failed to validate an will be readquiredEVERY TIMETry again this time:steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244629185783/76561197996887115
>>499608474>chinese cheats give you pub aids making it so people can't join you>getting shadowbanned for using chinese cheats makes it so people can't join you
>>4996085824/4 ALRIGHT, WE DIVE
>>499608680>literally never used cheats or mods of any kind>still ending up in shadow queues
>>499607328>>499607182>0 anti armor potential Worthless, post names so we can blacklist you
>>499608840that's just another thread schizo who thinks any reskin mod makes the game freak out, ignore him
>>499608959Giga shitter, you unironicly bring ORC?Only tanks a fab striders need AP3 and the bratty turrets need AP4 everything else can be killed by stalwart.
>>499609427it's the worst time of day again
>>499609541>SAAR, DO NOT REDEEM STALWART!!!
>>499587010I'm gonna need some sauce on those pics
Freeze gun when?
>>499611120neverbots and bugs function fine when naked in freezing water and blizzardsthe energy needed to go as cold as you'd need to go would be better spent in a weapon that just outputs that energy directly onto an enemy's head
>wear heavy padded armor>barrager tank hits me with the AoE of a missile>no damage>get launched into a wall literally 2 metres away from me>instantly die on the impactI'd rather die on the AoE, the impact dealing such absurdly high damage is simply a waste of time and doesn't even make sense.
>>499611809Hoping for an impact resistant armour soon.
>>499611947>game has a problem>instead of fixing it, give players a crutch to avoid itthis is so retarded swedes might do it
>>499612073The game is nothing but crutches. Having limited slots is the only challenge.
>ORC is.... le bad!Good for bugs, though.
>>499611809I M P A C TD A M A G E
>>499612725You can 1 hit biletitans with a single EAT. I guess EATs are just god tier, being 2 ORCs every minute (3 if you use the pod aswell).
>>499613281blues > redssimple as
>>499612725it literally isone of the worst redsit should either have cd comparable to precission strike (maybe 25% longer) or kill ANY enemy or objective in one hit with PS aoe on top
>>499613802Yay more power creep!
Lightning shotgun any good? Is higher armor rating better for survivability than 50% limb health?
Fuck off. I'll get you for that Scout Salute next time.
Don't worry, the ORC will receive a buff once the Swede release the Diff 11+, when there will be 5 bile titans, 4 impalers and 10 behemoth chargers on every bug breaches.
>he fell for itGGs anon, thanks for lobby
>>499613802I wish it looked more visually stunning.That limpdick spit shot looks terrible.
>>499613802>>499613281Which is why BTs need to be buffed.
>>499614367>Lightning shotgun any good?it's alright, nothing home to write about and no real complaints other than how the lighting targets sometimes>Is higher armor rating better for survivability than 50% limb health?imo it's not worth it to trade speed for heavier armor
>>499611947Bouncy armor perk: reduces impact damage by 90% but doubles your ragdoll physics.
>>499614367limb health feels like a meme youll always stim a broken piece basically. i always run heavy armor because fuck getting 2 shot by light enemies
>>499614561>>499614864I pretty much run the basic starting armor 24/7 for the extra padding and was hoping limb health boosts would let me branch out. oh well
>>499614984only armors that really change up loadouts is recoil armors for a few weapons, peak physique for snappy handling or making shit like the JAR usable and Servo assisted makes some strategems and grenade throws fantastic.
>fall for the MMG meme against bots>shoot heavy dev in the face>it flinches and the shield protects his faceShould've just brought an LC or AMR
PURE WHITE CAPE WHEN
>>499615257>uses LC>gets aimpunched 4 times
>>499615257>MMG memebring stalwart for spam or HMG if you want armor pen. MMG on bots is the worst of both guns
>>499615328Take shield gen or relay
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244634167223/76561198066017633
>>499615257I hate that I have to run stun grenade on bots for those fucking shield cucks. Wish it was just a super durable health pool that machine guns cut through.
>>499614375Maybe they'll buff factory striders against recoiless, I've seen ORC get dropped in them and it chunks their HP hard. If it targettee detector towers too I'd take it every mission.
Hmm feel like I am the only one who use flamethrower these day.
>>499615754Feels mediocre.Kills stuff fast, but you rarely get a chance to fight that stuff without your allies blowing you up.
>2 days until Liberty Day
>>499616059based daily reminder poster, can't wait to try out the constitution no matter how shit it is
>>499615754>Torcher but worse and occupies a support weapon slotCall me when they actually revert it to the total charger death dispenser it was before End of Fun
>>499616059>Friday>Can't get a patch because swedes don't do patches before the weekend
I think we have been pissing off Joel by going ahead of schedule lately.
>starting armor and helmet>basic liberator>peacemaker>HE grenadewho here /defaultdiver/?
D10 BOTSprotect wife editionsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244634837501/76561198076592284
>He isn't honestmaxxing>Default armor>Liberator>Stock pistol>Stock grenades>EAT>Machine Gun>Eagle Airstrike>Orbital Precision Strike
>>499616508Ha I just now notice Lesath increase decay rate.
>>499616202>revert itMaybe if they also double its damage and range on top of that it will stop being the worst support weapon. Being a mediocre charger killer isn't that important anymore now that AT and thermite 1 hit them.
>>499615257Literally just aim better, shitter. MMG is one of the best weapons for.killing devastators
>>499616508>3%Oof
>>499614375>Swede release the Diff 11+, when there will be 5 bile titans, 4 impalers and 10 behemoth chargers on every bug breaches.if you listen to the bitching in this general that number of those enemies are already present on the difficulties we have
>>499616594>4/4
>>499616202>>499616654>actually thinking the flamethrower is bad.Its not bad, its just outclassed by broken, op support weapons.
>>499614375Redditors and /hdg/ will complain about the number of heavies and it will get nerfed.
>CM-10 Clinician Leandiver
>>499616723Main bitching i hear is that there aren't enough heavies being spawned.
>>499616924just ask if the quasar cannon or orbital railcannon are any good
>>499613960you are fucking retarded niggerprobably contrarian troll as wellcooldown/uses should be proportionall to power/utility and consistent across strategems and weaponsRS has retarded cooldown and does fuckall
>>499616202They could make it kill chargers twice as fast as it did in its prime and it still wouldn't be a top 3 charger counter. Just another victim of the buffs arms race.
>>499616778If you're solo you'll die with it outside of hyper niche builds.If you're in a team, shit dies before you fight itI've used it for nearly three months straight, it's garbage.
>>499617048You're right and they should also make ap3 standard for all primaries and side arms. Give a lot of the primaries ap4 as well.
clean it upgood dog
>>499617024Quasar is comparable to other non RR AT in power but just sucks to use.ORC has way to much CD for what it does.
I guess it doesn't matter as long as we take Lesath after the MO end.
>>499617178>instantly goes to strawmanctrl>>^ yourself irl nigger
>*input the code to call down Orbital Railcannon Strike*>"HELLDIVER, ARE YOU SURE?!">"Yes, Democracy Officer!">*glorious Super Earth's Secret Weapon Orchestra starts playing*>"ORBITAL RAILCANNON STRIKE - OPERATION APPROVED">Ship Master: "Roger! Orbital Railcannon Strike: Safety Device - RELEASE!" *bing bong*>*BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP*>ORBITAL RAILCANNON STRIKE - CONNECTION . . .>*forced to input the code a second time to confirm connection to hotspot*>SYSTEM CHANGE!>*need to send code verification to the other 3 helldivers to get it confirmed*>ORBITAL RAILCANNON - CONNECTED>arm pad starts flashing red >CAUTION - CAUTION - CAUTION>C-01 permit AD in the top corner, click X>*need to input the code a third time to confirm charging up the shot*>yellow/orange/red light starts flashing in the sky>*need to input the code a fourth time to confirm coordinates*>watch as the scavenger in front of me gets completely obliterated >"ORBITAL RAILCANNON STRIKE - OPERATION SUCCESSFUL, DEMOCRACY PREVAILS ONCE MORE!"
>>499613802Id make it 100 seconds, and precision strike should be 70 seconds.Precision strike has fallen off hard. Lite Orbitals should have a niche as a pocket grenade you get every 50 seconds. It'd help augment your abilities more. Much like eagles.ORC should be a higher tier, just because it's a lot more reliable but it performs the same job if not less than a precision strike. (Which means players that feel ballsy can risk running OPS instead for efficiency.)
>>499616778I used the Flamer EXTENSIVELY before EoF and calling its current pitiful state just "bad" is a gross simplification
>>499617362I propose a 10 second cooldown for the orc. Its not much but at least it will be somewhat usable now.
>>499617513A recoiless reloads faster than that, maybe 6 seconds.
>>499617513zug zug
>>499617513It's like we can read your tears.Maybe stop being so emotinal?
>Shoot my GigaOP Recoilless Rifle® Devastator™ HEAT round at a tank>It phases through
>>499617850You missed it or it ricocheted.
>>499617513if you also gave it something like 5 uses per mission it would be unironically fine
>>499617771Still not good enough for you? What about no cooldown at all?
>>499597550grenade launcher
>>499548048>>499548313great tierlist
>>499617406Like with every other stratagem, if you whiff railcannon, blame yourself and improve your throws.
>>499617926Please keep playing the game so you experience as much as I do
>>499615237the biggest problem with servo assisted is that reds suckthe worst stratagem classeven greens are better after all the buffs they received
>>499618362You remind me all of those redditors screaming about how bots are shooting through the walls 24/7. But in all my playtime i never saw it, just like how i've never had an rr rocket go through a tank.
>>499615474>not taking rover for a second beamare you a homosexual
>>499618685bots beaming through walls was pretty common if you tried to kite a factory strider around a hill since they liked to stick their heads in walls.
>>499616183>constitution >frags>2 mortars>2 barragrsit's liberation time
>>499618685Pick the Guard Dog, hug the side of a mountain Remember to keep playing the game as I said before
>>499619114>i d-didn't miss! It just disappeared! Its the game's fault! LOL
>>499619558Keep playing the game
>>499617591K E K
>>499618685if you werent a tourist redditor you would see webms of it here, even if you don't play the game
>>499620827Works of on my machine. But on a more serious note, its a minor issue that is blown way out of proportion.
>Expect a higher resistance on the bug front.Joel really be out here saying to the bugfags "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING NORMIES."
>more filler MO with zero new content
>>499620982>Expect a higher resistance on the bug front.>Botfront become more hectic while bugfront look the same>>499620983A force lost MO too.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MISSILE SILO STRATAGEM?I WANT TO FUCKING SNIPE FAGGOT ASS BOT OBJECTIVES LIKE GUNSHIP FACTORIES AND JANNY TOWERS FROM 200+ METERS AWAY.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2JyrsiADKM
Going fashion diver. How's my character look?
>>499621240It's a Space Station stratagem alongside the nuke and carpet bomb, so whenever the space stations are released.
There's the Eagle dogfight stratagem too but I guess they're holding that off for when they introduce more flying enemies
>>499621264You look like Doomguy
>>499616594>2 jammers protecting 2 scanners right next to one anothercouldn't protect wife
>>499617406funny post, I laughed
>>499617406paging chairvoice this
>record data from pubs AND lobbies>bugdivers on average have a higher death count than bot divers >EXCEPT >lv130+ botdivers that average the highest death, accidental rate, but also kill counts that rival bugdiversthis leads me to believe that the gauss curve is actually real and rooted in complete truth.the 'bottom end' player plays recklessly which causes them to lose missions or not extract.the 'average' player plays overly safe and slow, netting high success and extract ratethe 'top end' of the curve plays completely recklessly, and yet having the same mission success and extract rate as the average player
>>499622549That's meCharge in, masterfully kite all the bots, dance between terrain features, kill everything around me, get obliterated by Rocket Chicken/Cannon Tower
>>499622549>Low IQ players play like retards and lose.>Midwit players tryhard to win.>High IQ players play like retards and still win because they know how easy it is to win.Woah.
>>499622549>higher level players understand that the best way to play the game is to kill everyone and everything around themno surprise
>>499622549That checks out, especially with data from lobbies considering most of the thread intentionally brings dumb shit and dies a lot for it, meta runs are boring at the top end
>>499622549or...>lvl130+ players are on higher diffs which results in more deaths
WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIMETO THE GOOD OLD DAYS
>>499623084i miss these little fuckers like you wouldnt believe
>>499623025data was collected from d8-d10>select d10 quickplay>get put into d8 lobbyso yeah there could be a small bias.
>>499622549"good" bugdivers can hit 1000+ killsmy bugdiver PB is 958 i thinkmy botdiver PB is 628bug has higher kill potential for skilled players that don't get killstolen, bot just has higher skilled players that aren't phoning it in whenever they playwhen i play bugs i barely give a shit and i still hit like 600 kills on the reg (non-spewer seeds obviously)it takes concerted effort for me to even get past 400 kills on bots, a good game for me is 500+, 600+ is usually an incredible game for me
>>499623084>>499623156Reinforced Scout Striders should have a tiny hole on their back that expose the pilot inside so you don't have to aim for their fucked up rocket hitboxes and make possible for medium pen primary to not be mandatory.
>>499623480by good, you mean people who force breaches, input their napalm barrage code and rr/eat any titans that pop up
>>499623870literally just make the tiny red radiator on the back of their hips a weakspotthat's it
>>499623870medium pen primary is not mandatory right now
>>499623870Base Liberator is a top tier primary on bots.
>>499623906that's why i put good in quotesbugs have an extremely low skill ceiling, qualified only by "can you throw napalm and thermite/shoot heavies in the head"
>>499623084Rocket Striders without the rockets and just called Armore Striders would be so much better than what we currently have.Hell, even just Rocket Striders without the reinforced cockpit.Hell, even just the current Rocket Striders, but with a lock-on system visual/auditory clue on when they'll fire their rockets.They are so poorly designed as enemies it's incredible.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244640279500/>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244640279500/Bots d10, RR need not applyNight shift ameriburgers and early morning euros edition
>i cannot deal with X enemy therefore X enemy is poorly designedfunny cope
>>499624005it is until they make the missile mounts not destructible by light pen weapons
>>4996248263/4, come kill clankers
>>499624935Isn't it lvl3 armor already?I don't think i ever break them with AP2 guns.
>>499624826full, we dive
>>499624935>senator>verdict>HE>impact>gas>AMR>AC>GL>HMG>MMG>RG>Arc>LC>ABRL>rocket sentry>ac sentry>gatling sentry>mg sentry>mortar sentry>HMGe>Eagle strafe>EAS>Eagle cluster>gatling orbital>airburst orbital>OPS>ONapalm>OLaser>OGasno, i don't think a medium pen primary is mandatory right now.
AC feels weaker than ever against bots just because the 2 gorillion rocket chickens you fight in every mission are oddly resistant to it, they take like 3-4 crotch shots to die
>>499626108it's in a dogshit state, needs an ergonomics and APHET projectile damage buff to bring it up to the level of the AMR
>>499626108>they take like 3-4 crotch shots to diebut the crotch only has 300 health with 3 armour and the AC does 260 pen4 damage
>>499626230you can hit the leg or the top plate a lot.AC is notorious for being the most inaccurate garbage ever
>>499626290>AC is notorious for being the most inaccurate garbage evernever heard this complaint about the AC until this second
>>499626461you dont notice it on bugs because they have massive hitboxesbut on bots it gets painfully obvious after a few games of running the AC.missing a shot because of the slow ass (re)turn speed or fuckhuge recoil is annoyingand at that point you could just run the MMG/HMG and be better off at unloading bodyshots. kills a lot of enemies much faster than the AC.however the flak rounds are a welcome addition as it makes the AC act as a grenade launcher but with range
>>499625326i've constantly broke them with the Tenderizer and even the Scythe
the chicken rockets are Armor2high damage light pen weapons can break them easily.
>>499626108that's what I call a skill issue
>>499623084don't they appear at lower difficulties
>>4996280897 and below yea
>Lesath at 2.9% because we were actually playing smart for once and Joel couldn't have thatJoel you goddamn goatfucker SET THE NUMBER AND LET US PLAY AGAINST IT YOU METAGAMING SWINE
>>499626108Imagine thinking that 3 ac shots is a lot or too troublesome to spare.
>>499623084Things things are lame as fuck and I'm happy i don't have to see them anymore. You could saunter way around them and pop them in the back with your sidearm with zero urgency. The rocket strider is actually cool and actually threatening. It will be a sad day when they give in and nerf the rocket strider.
>>499629318why would you want to do 3 AC shots when 1 AMR shot does the same
>>499629496Because i chose to use the ac for that mission?
>>499629663ok
>>499624826down to 3/4, get in here and kill some bots
I am taking a 3 day break from gaming, good luck heckdivers.
>>499630973see you tomorrow
>Do mission>Play like shit>Die because a hulk ran at me and my helldiver climbed instead of ran away>Host reinforces me as he jumps in the pelican>Extraction complete as my hellpod lands and I get beat up by devastators (my camera is on me instead of the pelican so I get to see it)>Can't control my helldiver to at least fight back>Feel compelled to play another and get a better performance>Close the game because it's 4:30 AM and the pull of the addiction is strong and I have to fight it
>Back to running Heavy FortifiedI fucking hate these retard devs so fucking much
Only chinks play at these hours ffs
In terms of story i think the bug front should win and the DSS become exposedThen we defend the DSS with it's weapons system only partially online aiding us as we wait for the super fuel to warp the fucker away
>>499631641back to running light paddedi fucking love these retard devs so fucking much
Can't wait for actual games to release, so I can stop playing this garbage game desu.
>>499633408there's no actual game in the pipe for months.you get to pick between woke garbage and swedish garbage
>>499633408when anon refers to "actual games", he actually means "Titles like 'League of Legends', 'Fortnite' and 'Counter Strike 2'"
So any of you niggas lobbying or...?
>>499633490>swedish garbageyeah about thathttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3051280/
>>499633634>xitteror>games that have already released and have no competition and will never haveembarassing post
>>499633869>not being able to read 1 (one) sentence coherently>being an ESL and not knowing englishpick one, one is more embarrassing than the other
>xitter pajeet bot hours
>>499631929Nvm I think I got Xi Jinping's personal guard, fucking elite
>>499633869>talks about xitter>immediate hypocrisyclassic, well played ranjeet
What if the bugs and the bots invaded the same planet?
>>499634282devs said never gonna happen, they wouldn't attack eachother
>>499634126could be taiwanesealso japs really loved the first game and they use same runes often
this general is so fucking low IQ it's unreal
I'll be hosting I guesssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244651198876/76561198391046460D10, first come first served
>>499634436nice projection, rameet
>>499634282very bad shit would happen
>Lesath decay rate set precisely to match MO durationoooooo it's going to be another close one bros ooooooo
>>4996344733/4
>>499634282idk but I think they said recently that this might be on the table after all.
I'd like to Helldive into Eagle One's pussy if you know what I mean
>>499634659>precision setting for a linear value>fluctuating player numberspick one
>>499634612>You now remember the buggy, the bugs and Nova ProspektKino... guess It's that time of the year again
>>499634473Still 3/4
I'd love to play with other helldivers voices set to their native language (except chinese), I think that'd be really fun
>>499634473Full
>>499634839>lesath at 2% for the first 24 hours while 50-55% playerbase decided to attack it>this morning lesath gets set to 2.9% (which is an oddly specific value for a regen rate to be set) >this causes the expected liberation time to rise to 33 hours at the point when there is only 33 hours left in the MOIt's very transparent. It's basically Joel deciding that if we actually want this we need more than 50% of the playerbase there for the next 33 hours. He didn't like that we were scraping by even with the community effort being perfectly divided between lesath and everything else.
>>499635352yeah but what if the player count drops or increases, the expected liberation time is out the window.you're thinking too much into it
>>499635352I hate him so much it's unreal. He's the most neckbearded, metagamey, unfun, fudge the rolls GM you could possibly imagine and retards defend his blatant bullshit.
>no pride event >no LGBTQ+ representation Chud game.
>>499636167Maybe they only have two outcomes planned and ready where one of the two fronts has to fall for liberty day, so he's just forcing his handDoes this kind of thing happen often?
>>499635352>>this morning lesath gets set to 2.9%3%, then 2 hours later they decreased it to 2.9%
>>499636101There's a modifier that accommodates for that. It doesn't matter if there is 25K or 50K people playing. The proportion of the playerbase that is on a planet completing missions is what counts.So by setting a regen rate of 2.9% on Lesath, we now need more than 55% of the playerbase on Lesath regardless of how many people are playing. The playerbase was told to make a choice in the MO and the GM is enforcing that requirement. But as usual people on the bug front are being retarded and can't even coordinate amongst eachother let alone with the rest of playerbase.You claim is doesn't matter but they had lined up a different storyline if the helldivers failed to destroy meridia back when that happened, but we didn't fail that.
>NOOOOOO BOTS CAN'T JUST THROW MORE FORCES AT A PLANET THEY ARE FAILING TO DEFEND BECAUSE...... BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T, OK?there is literally nothing wrong with this
>>499636230and that's a good thingthey know half of the playerbase would leave over fag garbage
>>499631929Asian player hours are the best, what the fuck are you on? Chinks will either cheat or tryhard, and Japs are notorious tryhards. And since SEA is banned you don't have to deal with them. Literally late night, NA offline hours is when the majority of objective play actually gets accomplished thanks in part to that.
>>499624005Medium pen is mandatory. Medium pen primary is effectively mandatory.
>>499634319I feel like there would be an interesting story to be told if all the factions interacted with each other in some way, though. I feel like the bots are even moving eastward in an attempt to reach terminid space and maybe see how the bugs work out as a fuel source for their own war machine.
>>499637275Do Swedes even promote that fag shit?
N E W S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m053YyNixug
>>499623084>Tanks used to die to impacts>Whole squad of these things would die to impacts/grenade launcher/mortar>Gas and flame weapons just mulched through themIt was so much better. Bot meta becomes so stale when everything is just medium armored chaff.
We need light pen durable damage buff to happen already. Then add swarms of dogs and tier 2 berserkers, both with fuck strong durability so that light pen becomes more desirable.This would also further buff machine guns on bots hehe
>>499637657holy sexy smgwonder how shit it'll be
>>499637657I can't wait for all these weapons to be dramatically underpowered.Armor looks cool though.
>>499637657Nice
>>499637657Pretty sure the leaked chud armor is going to be in the shop
>>499637657Forgot to attach the overview
I was waiting for an all-red helmet. neato
>>499637990>free of thoughtfinally a title for all our hdg friends
>>499637990>dead sprintAny ideas?
>>499637657>>499637990It's shit
>>499638181>Don’t worry–we didn’t forget about the booster, either. Have you ever wanted just a little bit more stamina on the battlefield? Have you ever thought, while being chased by a Terminid horde, I’d die to have just a bit more gas to go the distance. If that sounds like you, Helldiver, then I have some good news: the new Dead Sprint booster may drain your health once your stamina is at zero, but it will enable you to keep outrunning the enemy.
This shit was a mistake, now every new warbond will have skins like this instead of useful content
>>499637657>Chudd warbond.Based.
>>499637990>Dead sprint>Lose HP instead of stamina while sprintingWelp. Another useless booster
>>499637657Notice blue "confetti" at around 0:27.EMS shotty?
>>499638267Thats fucking shit, at that point id just stim to refill my stamina
>>499637917Why would they be underpowered? The 60 day buffidvers patches have gone through, surely they'd design new weapons with that in mind.
>But let’s say you want something a little more hefty and protective, in which case I recommend the UF-50 Bloodhound medium armor and the “Pride of the Whistleblower” cape, picking up on those deep, official-looking reds. And because we want our Helldivers to stand strong against all who oppose the truth, both of these armors have the Unflinching passive, which reduces staggering when hit.>stagger reducing armoryou just know it'll increase the stagger on release
>>499637990>InspectorI can't wait to ask all my squad mates if they hide dirty bugs under their floor
>>499638353probably a stun secondary modethus the namehalt
>>499638353Looks like it'll be a pummeler shotgun. Iirc from the datamine it's ap3 with some decent damage. Probably gonna be something like lib conc breaker.
>>499638353https://blog.playstation.com/2024/10/24/helldivers-2-truth-enforcers-warbond-launches-oct-31/>SG-20 Halt: a pump-action shotgun, similar to the Punisher, that can alternate between stun rounds and armor-penetrating flechette rounds
>>499638353It can switch between AP flechette rounds and EMS rounds.
>>499638373Are you being sarcastic, I genuinely can't tell. These warbonds have been shit on release, they still haven't fixed the brap pack.
>>499637657>>499637990What's the gimmick of the SMG? it looks like it has about the same fire rate as the Defender
>>499638374Feels like it needs to either be no flinch or worthless. I cant imagine like 33% shorter flinch time doing anything meaningful. Doesn't even sound like fun armor if that's the case. But heavy unflinching armor that you can just spam stims through would be pretty baller.
>>499638637They say it's "heavy" smg
Chuddiver armor incoming with new warbondGet ready
>>499638868this is honestly plausibleit's gonna be a 650 supercredit set or something compareable
>>499638562>armor-penetrating flechette roundsAre we back breaker bros?
>>499638181my hope is it allows us to fire while sprinting
>>499638267>>499638350Wonder how it interfaces with EMS draining all your stamina and slowing you.>>499638790The smart thing to do would be to deescalate staggers down to flinch and flinch to nothing but yeah it'll probably be some worthless as fuck recovery speed which doesn't solve the problem of you know, being flinched while shooting and missing your shots so you just fucking die.
>inspector is a light, red ant cosplay is a mediumnyooo,,,,,,
>>499639006>Wonder how it interfaces with EMS draining all your stamina and slowing you.Well you see anon, the moment you get EMSed or stunned with that perk, you immediately lose health trying to sprint. With zero sprint actually happening.
>>499639142If you have toggle sprint bound and you jump pack with low stamina you'll continue to sprint while jumping and bottom out your stamina, I wonder if that'll deal damage to you.
>>499639045Ah yes. My light and medium bot armor that lets me aim better while being hit repeatedly. The good looking armor will be in the super store again I'm sure
>>499638267>>499638350>>499638368>stamina booster, high base stamina>dead sprint until you have low hp>use a booster to refresh both stamina and hpNEVER STOP RUNNING
>>499635352it was at 3%, then he lowered it to 2.9%
PLASMA PISTOLPLASMA PISTOLPLASMA PISTOLAWWWWW YEAH
>>499638868>chud armor is a superstore (SS) itemkyeheheheh
>>499639301Probably. Swedes think that shits hilarious.
>>499638338Took you a minute to catch onEver since the viper commando shit dropped they've cut the amount of non-cosmetic content per warbond by over a third but they still cost the sameAnd they were trying to sell us this shit as a positive change in their approach
I hope this shotgun is the punisher i can finally enjoy
New warbond, October 31sthttps://youtu.be/m053YyNixug
>>499639584
>>499639665I'm sorry officer-kun
>>499639584I just hope the armors are something unique that we don't already have 50 different copies of.
>>499639584Shit warbond shit game dead game
>>>499638562>flechette roundsFinally...
>Stun shotgun with an alt-fire and AP flechette>'Heavy' SMG (whatever that means)>Purifier as a sidearmBotbros... I'm thinking they cooked
>>499639372I hope it's stupid OP, like 1 round needs to reload. But does like 600 damage, and melts stuff
>>499637657>>499639584I cant believe they put a cameo of doomsissies in at 55 seconds
>>499637530this warbond goes very hardlove from polandI hate communists so much it's unreal
>>499638562>both of these armors have the Unflinching passive, which reduces staggering when hit.DoA Warbond ngl
>>499639871Nope.It's a pistol variant of the Purifier.
>>499639871it's literally secondary purifier
>>499638637>>499638796My beloved is coming back to me...But in other news, now that the plasma pistol is here I am really still itching for melee weapons.
>>499639919what
>>499640040o to to to to
>>499639372
Not even a victory poseI bet next warbond will only have a single armor and no secondary
>>499637530bro are you joking
>>499637530They do. Holy shit Sweden was doing it first.Sweden was having little boys playing with dolls and acting like fags on TV back in 2011. You weren't around for the "Sweden YES!" and "Blanda UPP!!!" memes.The Swedish government put out a race-mixing propaganda commercial back in like 2010 with a white woman having sex with a black dude.Sweden was pozzed long before it started showing up everywhere else in the mainstream.
>>499640178>>499640198I wonder how they'll make it shit. Even like 4 shots it'd be better than the grenade pistol. All you need is like two shots to make purifier worth it against groups. Honestly be grossly good if that's the case
>can't dive due to work>Lesath teetering on the brink of failureTHE BOT FRONT NEEDS ME AND I CAN'T BE THERE. Botdivers... I'm sorry...
>>499640125>reduce staggering>on light and medium armors that can't tank 2 hitslmao
>>499640318I wonder if this bond will also continue the trend from brapbond of requiring much more medals for unlocks
>>499639808The passive is new and "reduces stagger" which I assume is the same as ragdolling. Something that leddit has been asking for for a while.
>>499640483the heavy will be in the super store the day it drops, enjoy
>>499640298All I want. One meaty powerful shot. Give it a low RPM, maybe shit handling. But just BOOM delete shit.
>>499640224Supposedly melee weapons are being teased for the Liberty Day content drop.They're capping off the 6(3) day patch with a bomb, man.A new Warbond, plus free content on the 26th.
>>499640407even smaller ammo count and lower damagethe usualpurifier already suffers from low ammo count and without it's current damage it would be worthlessso it's gonna be worthless
>>499640519Naw it's when you get flinched and your aim goes off, or when you can't do anything like stim or throw a grenade.
>>499640513i think its random, viper commando had fuck all for cost basically.
>>499640513Less content, but costs more.Then again you got people now that just hoard medals for warbond drops, so they gotta kneecap that somehow.
>>499640603>lower damage>the usualWhy, the crisper doesn't have lower damage.>>499640587We still have zero confirmation of anything happening on Liberty Day. Like obviously they should- but I don't think they do patches on weekends.
>>499640587All I've heard is about bayonets. What I mean are dedicated ones like a sword in the secondary slot. I do expect a new free warbond for Liberty Day at least.
>>499639584>chuddiver armor on the brapbond>Not Secret Police warbond nextUh...it's all satire, right?
>>499640871Jin ruh roh armor in the super store too I bet.
>>499640812There's leaks all over the place, and the devs themselves have been involved in teasing some of the info out.HD1 Armor and Constitution are a given. Strategem launcher for the Exosuits is a strong probability. Bayonets and/or "[redacted]" was teased by Pilestedt himself.Stop being a doomsissy.Things are happening. They want the playerbase back. Sony's on their asses after the Concord nuclear waste incident.
>>499637657>>499637990>The armorOnly one is unique. The red one is shaped like a super store armor but it's red now.>The gunsUnless they can damage through armor, only the pistol will be used. Assuming it counts as explosive.>Dead SprintIt's either faster movement while out of stamina or something that won't touch the four utilities everybody uses.This warbond isn't all too thrilling. I bet the super store armor that comes with it will look sick as fuck tho.
Man, the jetpack buff made farming SC even faster.
>>499640706>>499640787It's less a hoarding issue and more the fact that there's no outlet for them, so once you have all the bond content unlocked there's literally nothing you can do about being permanently at medal cap.Being able to trade 100 medals for 10 SC or something would really help this.
I hope they give flechette to the breaker.
>>499641151People would instantly find way to abuse it somehow. Only run shit that earns medals fastest. Thus there will never be a non-random way to earn SC in-game.
>>499641151They're releasing another in-game store. A captured and "reeducated" Automaton merchant you can buy stuff with using samples and medals. It's going to be the cosmetic store. A system I will despise because soon we'll be flooded with zoomers running around in faggot neon colors.
>>499640995>the new Dead Sprint booster may drain your health once your stamina is at zero, but it will enable you to keep outrunning the enemyDoA, worse stamina booster
>>499640706>>499641151Whoops, meant to say: vipers actually had a very normal medal cost, freedom's flame was the one that was way below median but it was also very light on contentBrapbond is extremely light on content but still costs as shitload to unlock, and while that's partly down to the strategems costing a lot of medals, you can see that they also raised the costs of items within their own categories and page tiers relative to previous warbonds to pad the overall cost and make it slower to unlock everything, probably to try to hide the lack of content
>>499641385>pair it with someone who has experimental infusionGOTTA GO FAST... forever
Sweet Liberty
>>499637990>PistolMay be a new must-pick, depends on if it has splash>ShotgunProbably strong as shit just through stun, guessing flechettes will essentially be AP2 Slugger>SMGProbably a one-handed Tenderizer>BoosterSounds like ass>Armour Betting it doesn't have a new perk
>>499641419i also meant freedoms flame instead of Viper, i just fucked up names because i was reading warbonds while posting
>>499641385>>499638267>>499637990>Helldiver John Helldiver joining squadron >Everybody suddenly runs to death
>>499641694it litteraly doesn't matter because stims by themselves fill up up your stamina
>>499641281It's already trivially easy to grind up to 1000 SCs in about an hour though if you really want to, and loads of players have like 30k SC in the bank from past exploits, so honestly I don't see a big worry as long as the medal cost is highBottom line is there desperately needs to be something you can do with medals outside of new warbond releases, sitting at cap for weeks on end is dishearteningSimilar issue affects high-level players with full ship upgrades sitting at sample caps, you already see it affecting in-game dynamics where many players will ignore samples and even get mad at lower levels for trying to get them
>>499640439I complete two operation and we are still one hour behind. No bug vacation for the next two day I guess
>>499641745How much money do you have on that bet?
>>499637990>dead sprintheavy armor bros...it's our time
So instead of jogging when I'm out of stamina I'll lose half my health before I can switch to a jog when I'm out of stamina. Cool
>>499641703Fuckin noiceWhat's the source and what's it called?
>>499642104https://wall.alphacoders.com/big.php?i=1380418
>>499642104Lionel Schramm,check out his Artstation or twitter, he does insane Louvre-worthy Helldivers 2 fanarts
>>499637657>>499637990>At Ease emote
>>499641797It means you can go longer in between each stim, dumbass.
>>499640812>Why, the crisper doesn't have lower damage.I think it's because swedes don't know how to code different firerate for flamersif they made crisper do 2 damage per tick it would be too low, and all flame sources deal the same dot so they can't adjust it either
>>4996417981st and running like a madman right? I need more now this is the first bond I don't have enough for it + the slopstore armor before announcement all because of those damn mega bases.
>>499642162>>499642197Cheers boss
>>499642379What about the fire damage booster for fire strategems, then?
>>499640812Crisper instead has like 1/3rd the tank capacity of the Torcher, so it does the same damage... for 2 seconds
>>499640812>I don't think they do patches on weekends.they deploy patches beforehandconstitution is already in the game, we don't know final stats tho because helldivers.io did not update since last patchand modders attached bayonet to random weapons as well, though it will probably only be on constitution
I want a lobby with exclusive usage of Dead Sprint and Firebomb Hellpods
>>499637990hate the armor recolorsbut those patterns.......
>Joel ramps up the bot rate on Lesath right before the warbond teaser drops>Everyone immediately fucks off from Lesath to go farm SC Masterful gambit Joel-sama
>>499637657>>499637990>October 31my ADHD brain can't handle this, what game should I play while waiting for the warbond, bros?
>>499642775Lesath is fine for farming SC. Got 70 in a single run at d3.
>>499642846is D3 the strat? I usually do D1 since the map is very small.
>If that’s not enough raw sincerity to take them out, you’ve also got the SMG-32 Reprimand, which is a heavy SMG. It also has a cool slap reload, just like in the accurate, true-to-life movies you love.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVFuX0m_TR4
>>499642379To be fair. I think you're right, that's why they fucked up the flamethrower and it only does 400 DPS instead of 800.
What Warbond is the Chud helmet in?
>>499641836I complete zero operations because all hdg hosts are quitters
>>499642825Factorio
>>499643086D2 is better than D1D3 is good too but it's a bit big for one person, good for groups
>>499643248Isn't D2 still 50 SC?
This just proves there won't be a free warbond on SaturdayThey wouldn't release them so close together
>>4996425161/3 the capacity of the purifier would be fine. You're still 2 shotting crew on drop ships.
>>499643183SC store
>>499642513idk, what makes you think it works?not a single upgrade was working when they released them
>>499643183noneit's super store content
>>499643297why would you think there'd be oneyou'll just get a rifle and an armor setthey can just grant you those on login, remember the creek cape?
>>499643286What do you meanIt's all random what the PoI contents are and varies from map to map, but I think you get a bit more PoIs on D2 than D1
>>499643183Store gas armor
>>499643201I purposely end the lobby at the last mission so fags who never host like you complain about it
>>499643380>>499643331So how long until it rotates back in. Billions btw
>>499643456I think it cycled back after initial drop already and will be some time for the next Keep checking the companion every couple of days, it'll eventually make its way over
>>499642513>Flame damage boosterJust make it part of fire armor
>>499643447then why are you begging for people to join youI didn't even want to play
>>499640979Concord shouldn't have even failed, the gameplay was good.
>flechette rounds will be ap3>Will be doing more damage than the slugger making it useless, or less damage making it uselessI just hope it pierced enemies.
>>499643384Because we deserve more than that for sticking around and keeping this dumpster fire alive all this timeA small show of appreciation for the people allowing the staff to keep their jobs
>>499643624Reddit as FUCK
>>499643813lollmao even
Why don't helmets have armor/passives? If they added that and the ability to recolor armor to match, there would be way butter customization
>>499643183Super store. You'll probably be waiting for another 2 weeks before you can get it again.
>>499643813anon please get realwe live in an age of apathy and the wrong people in charge of what's considered right nobody will do you any favors unless forced to
>>499643984Well you know, bacon flavoured apples and all that.
>>499643984Way too much to balance at that point
>>499643984They're working on both.Zoomers will finally get to run around in hot pink and turquoise armor like we all know you little queers want so badly.
I think the booster is better than people seem to think it is. You can sprint until your stamina runs out, sprint through your health bar, then stim and do it all over again. Bigger bonus is someone has Super Stims on the team.
>>499637990Inspector might match a couple of the other white helmets in the game.
>>499644224>see this set>OH lots of reserve ammo belts it must be engineering kit>its Servo-AssistedBACON FLAVORED APPLES
>>499644247I actually want all of my sets to be black and yellow. The base color scheme of a Diver is already perfection.
>>499644292Agreed, the super stim synergy is pretty big actually. Of course it depends a lot how fast it drains health.
>>499643984They originally had plans for helmet perks like heat vision for example but ended up scrapping the idea.
>>499644426Yes, yes. You're the special and unique slowflake.
Illuminates soon
>>499644292>Health booster, mandatory>Sprint booster which just lets you run twice as long>Meth stims which makes you run further>Forcing death sprint, when people could take a better booster like ammo, radar, muscle, or fire bomb hellpods.
>>499644843I want to believe but there's no way.They're not doing an illuminate drop until they hint at it for like one month straight.
>>499643813lmao
>>499644849>firebomb hellpods
>>499644849>Forcing death sprint, when people could take a better booster like ammo, radar, muscle, or fire bomb hellpods.Oh I know exactly what I'm going to do with that booster.
>>499644997This.They're going to hype the FUCK out of the illuminate before dropping them. We're going to start seeing MOs in relation to it, first. Like stuff suddenly going wrong. Or the bots, or bugs randomly getted yeeted out of the galaxy seemingly for no reason at all.
>>499644292cool, I can save 1 stim when I need to run for 3 stamina bars straight instead of having>bonus health>doubled stamina>full supplies on death>faster movement through obstacles>meth stims
>>499645081>bot drop detected>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5zdmjVeQzE&pp=ygUSaXQncyBlYXNpZXIgdG8gcnVu
>>499644997>>499645204Maybe not, they used to just add enemies to the game without telling anyone, I hope they do it again
>>499643624thanks reddit
Have they mentioned a sale for this weekend through devstreams or anywhere else?
>>499644843So is the gold
Bots 10I need like 150 sc for muh nazi warbond next weeksteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244667828127/76561198008364447
>>4996456802/4
>>499645390If they add a unique sound when it's active, I'm going to have so much fun replacing it.
>>499645457Illuminates are going to be a massive content drop. They're not going to -not- advertise it. Are you fucking stupid?
>>499637990>dead sprintjfc I will unironically be kicking people from the lobby for picking this it's so bad
>>499646000Brain rot.
>>499645936This is actually a smart marketing move. You don't say shit, and then everyone, including youtubers and all that shit will lose their minds and go "BROOOOOOO DIDN'T YOU SEE ??? THEY SHADOW DROPPED THE LOOMS IN THE GAME !!! OMGGGGGG"
>>499643889>>499645594But reddit hates fun
>>499645936this>>499646172If they officially announce the Illuminates, youtubers will make videos like "How will Arrowhead mess the Illuminates this time?" while if you drop it out of nowhere the hype will build itself. Sort of like Youtube tried to sneakily forbid adblockers and the backlash made more people use them.
bread, we must have BREAD
>>499637990>UFwhat's that
>>499647094UnFlinching
>>499647040baking, standby
>>499646000ESL here. What "dead sprint" means?
Fresh bread>>499647484>>499647484>>499647484
Countdown initiated, preparing for take off.
>>499647495Doesn't mean shit, but if you go on the playstation article it explains that it uses life when you don't have stamina anymore
>>499647495Basically to sprint at something like your life depends at it. Like when someone is coming for YOU with murder in their eyes.
>>499647495"dead run" apparently just means running as fast as you can, but I've never heard any english speaker say it
