Build-a-fort-with-your-boogers edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-59Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-58Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>Halloween Jamhttps://itch.io/jam/agdg-halloween-jam->AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgEngine dev: >>>/g/gedgArchive: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/subject/agdg/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Recap: https://recap.agdg.app>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCamPrevious: >>499653335
How do I make a game that kids would enjoy?
every aggydaggy game is flooping except for coomslop.
I miss the collab brosises...Making a farming game is my dream but i'll never achieve it alone...........
How come not a single game on agdg has this level of animation?
>>499711534I'm planning a agdg collab. It will be no pedos allowed.
>>499711646what about gays and furries
>>499711378make an horror game, preferably with mascot and analog horror themes, bright colors. for the rest just use unity/unreal store assets
>>499711646I'm a hag enjoyer tough
>>499711418Every aggydaggy game on steam flops. Steam = flop. Porn game off of steam = success. Meme game on itch = success. Game on steam = flop.
>>499711534Can I keep exclusive commercial rights for the collab?
/v/3 is back! Check out the details here:https://youtu.be/Tav8EISUhYk?si=njEMcq0Z_o13hNG1
the odds that your game will make it are so slim
>>499711182Does anybody here ever get the urge to brutally kill the people that you see in thumbnails? The kid can probably be saved but I want to punch him in the face.
>>499711560Because I'm waiting for Animation 2025.
>>499711839Fuck wrong link. Let's try again: https://youtu.be/OZoiwWCNH_I?si=ty8ZsaQLyLNSO--V
https://youtu.be/j0yKLumIbaM?t=56It's fucking over, even anti-AI channels are trooning out.
>>499712021not watching this. not using ai to program. going to keep working my six figure programming job and hobbydevving, all without ai.
>>499711646>leaving out on /agdg/'s most valuable devs
>>499712021are you surprised? the vast majority of the anti-AI crowd were already troons
>>499712218>>499711839Good morning saars
I need help, aggy.I still can't decide if my game should be high fantasy or modern. Sigh. ChatGPT says I should go high fantasy with modern elements, but I can't even understand what that even looks like.
>>499712320
>>499712407gotta rewatch this show it was a great comedy
>>499712320>ChatGPT
>>499711879I will beat the odds.
>>499712320chatgpt isnt really good at creativity, it'll end up always giving you the same slopjust like ai images are ai images, they always have that ai lookat least for now
>>499711879I've been in and out of /agdg/ for at least half a decade now and I have never finished a gameat this point I just want to make something I can be proud of
>>499712757same but full decade
i actually give up....
Hello daggers I've been gone from my home for a month. I hope I will get back into the (very little) progress mood soon! Also while I was gone Tim fucked everything up. What a guy.
>>499712884Same but a dozen
me watching agdg threads go by
>>499711560because I have to do it with only one hand
>>499713223I need to learn this
>PlayerController is now 400 lines longups haha
>>499711534i still wanna do the one i was working on but focusing on 2 projects is hard maybe i should split up my days to work on dif projects and that will keep things fresh for my brain. i wish i could clone myself so i could make everything i wana
who is the J. D. Salinger of dev?tl;dr he wrote catcher in the rye, became a recluse, spent the rest of his life writing countless works with his characters and world but never published or showed anyone any of it.
>>499713540that's not so much
>>499712487i'll take one notMiku[2], please
>>499712757>>499712884Maybe you should collab?With so much experience you sure will make a great game in no time!
>>499713223white women simulator.
>>499712487
>>499712757>>499712884is it about a lack of vision or skill ?
does your game use stairs
>>499713952both and also lack of many other things
>>499713918ENE-CHAN!!!!
>>499714259i dont have a game right now, im having a depression arc
>>499714259chaotic good is the only right answer.
>>499700585Yeah, I read other parts of the Bible.
I load almost every single sprite and music in my game at start-up, but they're also about 20MB in total right now. Should I be worried?
>>499714964Don't worry about it.
>>499714964no
>>499714309
>>499714259true neutral with proper character controller
where's the anon sending good vibes to all lolidevs?
>>499714964Worry about it once it matters
>>499715373He is inside every one of us.
Do you think a basic top down stealth game could be made in 2024, or is it overdone?
>>499715621any time you think you cant make a game genre, slap something else people actually want on top of it, and suddenly it sells gangbusters
>>499714259explain what that red shit is
>>499715828invisible level geometry
>>499715828something that anyone who's done baby's first unity tutorial would understand. kys nodev
>>499715373Sorry, I'm working on my loli game. Next thread.
>>499715742>slap something else people actually want on top of itIncest and furry coom?
https://youtu.be/WMmlOzZgdCo?si=qfF5lq9zf4EU141_&t=272
>>499715916>>499715981I didn't want to believe it. What kind of a mentally challenged dipshit would create unnecessary additional geomerry for every single staircase instead of just coding a proper character controller
>>499715981Why aren't you making games for kids?
>>499715373The only thing lolidevs deserve is a hammer to their fingers.
>>499716121Exactly. You get it.
>>499714760>>499716464Your previous post got no responses you tranny.
>>499716526
Level design. I plan for the entire grass world to be ready in time for demo day, as well as some tweaks to the existing levels based on demo feedback.
>>499716280using simple collision shapes over detailed visual geometry has actually been an industry standard for many decades
the second his ban expires he goes right back to posting the same shit he got banned for
>>499717018if you have a lot of manpower and time to waste maybe. Coding the character controller properly takes about an hour as opposed to the days of labour required to place every single little gay collider on every single slight change of elevation
>>499717696My ban expired?
>>499711534very based, lets team up
>>499717743trolling or retarded?
>>49970783920 years of rpg maker>>499707853It does have a subtle flickering effect, I guess it wasn't noticeable in the webm.>>499709847Idk when I tried it, it kinda looked weird, that's why I switched it up to this nice clean light. When you are in pitch black dungeons it can make things look weird and annoying when everything is orangish.
>>499716464based, always love when hypocrisy gets called out
This thread is cursedMinnasan please kill it asap
>>499716464gamedev?
Why do you retards have to give attention to attention-seeking nodevs? Can't you just have a little self-control?
>>499717915what went wrong with the collab other than max stern being an autist
>>499717743nigga it takes 2 seconds to add an invisible piece of geometry to a staircase during map creation
thinking about switching to clay sculpting as my creative outlet hobby...
>>499715604I can feel him cumming inside me
>>4997184962 seconds x however many staircases and step-like geometry things you have + all the extra work every time you have to slightly change something
>>499718392>discord
getting a bit exhausted of working on the game from waking up to sleep
Currently stuck with writer's block on what to make a story campaign about.
>>499718772this is utterly based and anyone criticizing it is a turbo tranny pajeet AIslopper zoomernigger
>>499716784nice
Who's more retarded: the dunning-kruger nodev who's never tried writing a character controller, but is 100% confident he knows the best way to do it, or the retards still trying to convince him otherwise?
>>499718772>first line: images for reference>it gets deleted anywaywhat is wrong with ms
>>499718685making 150 staircases at 2 seconds per staircase is 120 times faster than spending an hour on a more complicated staircase per your numbers. Also, you can just make a couple different stair assets and copy and paste them instead, which would take approximately 2 seconds per staircase times however many staircases you would need for an entire game... 15 maybe? So yeah, 30 seconds or one hour (according to your numbers) or in other words, exactly 1/7,200 the time spent.
>>499718392it was just stern being an autist.
>7 am in mumbai
Max Stern is right about everything. Anyone who doesn't listen to him is misguided
>>499719278HE mentioned moneyHE overscoped for a steam realeaseHE made a discordHE killed every attempt at speeding up things
>>499719250
good morning sirs
>>499719541How is any of this bad? You could be twisting it to make it look bad out of context
>pedos and jeets
>>499719278The collab must be restored. If Max Stern returns I'm in.
>>499719278>hey stern here's some ideas i came up with>ummmm honey focus on this project??? if you want to come up with your own ideas make your own collab???>if you keep talking about this i'm gonna ban you>*deletes all the posts*witnessing this exchange made me cringe so fucking hard lmao
>>499719541just remove the discord shit and the collab is back
>>499719860How would you have handled it? Clearly it was the ideaguy that was sperging out, if he couldn't shut up to talk about it in a normal way
>>499720016Also why is it bad to have a discord? I don't understand how you would coordinate a collab on something as complex as a game without some way to communicate directly. What was the plan here? Send each other information encoded in good vibes through the ether?
>>499720245git and agdg is good enough to coordinate the collab
>>499719860>>499720052I'm that guy. I'm pretty sure he deleted my posts mainly because he wasn't happy about me picking apart his game (Mistwood) and thereby undermining his authority.
>>499718215>>>499716464thats incest
>>499711560forced animation, looks gay af
>>499720586Why would you walk into the collab and do that? Do you not realize how autistic that is? It's a total non-sequitur. Imagine getting into a new school and the first thing you do is you give a speech to the class about why one of your classmates is such and such. What the fuck?
>>499716464https://www.4chan.org/rules#globalrule 13
I want to ask Max Stern for forgiveness for ruining his collab
Best one?
>>499711182If I post my face in a devlog like all the cool devs do while having participated in multiple DDs here, what's the chance of attracting the ire of a resident schizo?
>>499721464>third one: shart walli kneel
>>499721516Brano did that and he is fine, not being ugly helps.
>>499721516certainly, you can't show your face until you make it..
>>499720863I only played his game because he kept telling me to play it and use it as a reference for how he wants the systems to be done, except after spending a few minutes with it, it was very clear that the systems were poorly structured and is likely the reason why he hadn't made further progress with the game for a year. For example, his entire game was just a series of Godot scenes. He had save/load buttons, but they didn't work. He probably tried something to serialize the entire scene tree and load/save that, but that's unstable and takes a bit of know-how with configuring owners to make work. He need to do a full refactor of how his scenes are constructed. Since both his game and the collab game depended on things like destructible terrain objects and player base-building, the right way to structure them would be for there to be a serializable data structure (e.g. Godot Resource or JSON) that held either data of where all terrain objects and/or what terrain objects have been destroyed, and instead of directly loading objects from a scene file, scene files need to contain loaders that read that serialized data to dynamically place terrain objects. Core design decisions like that need to be made early on, since they a have cascading implications for how the rest of the systems work.
>>499721516>>499721582Resident schizo here. Just don't be a fucking nigger like Osur or horbror or the rollerball tranny.Branno is a cool guy. Devs like Penguindev and Pogodev and Bokudev and Bundev have nothing to worry about because they aren't twofaced negroid faggy bitches. Just don't be a duplicitous magnanimous egomaniac and you're off the hook
shmoovin
speak of the devil
>>499721956can you elaborate? honestly at this point i just think that osur are the one posting these to get his name in the thread
seriously? wtf did i ever do dude. i'm always nice to everyone here, ur the one who started shit talking without reason lol. it's okay i'm not mad at you. it's all in good fun (i guess?). :)
>>499722237if we see the model so up close then you gotta add jiggle physics
>>499721464https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6R3YgmK0sI like the third onePlease just play with colors, you can copy this
>>499722237>tfw 1080 and walkawaymj ain't got shit on her.
>>499720863>why would you talk about farming game design in the farming game collab
post progress
>>499722237doc, I got a fever and the only cure is more KIIINNNOOOOOOO
>>499722894nyo
>>499721464the third one is trying to got for a theme, while the others are neither clean UI or themed, so i'd say the third... although i think it needs work.one thing you can do is keep the segments at a constant size as the player zooms in/out, and increase the number of segments
>>499722365>>499722371There are two crimes that get you on the hit list:1. Pretending to care about ALL the devs while actively ignoring some games and never ever talking about them or streaming them or etc. Obviously it's not possible to care about ALL the devs, so pretending to do that is two-faced slimy behaviour. I have been ignored for my entire participation here so I can speak from experience. Osur and horbror are both guilty of this.2. Inner Circle denialism. The other depraved gaslighting routine that some people here like to do is try to pretend that it's not true that there are a select number of games that have reached local microceleb status and benefit immensely from it within the /agdg/ microcosm. They also love to deny the fact that game quality does not correlate in any way with the level of popularity. Lying that good games are the games that get popular here is an evil lie that exists only to prop up an unelected elite. Osur and a long line of other devs are guilty of this.It's the willingness to lie so openly about all of this that is so disgusting about all of this. It's very womanlike behaviour, and knowing it comes from men it makes it even more horrible.
>>499718220These threads have been bad lately.I've been really demotivated recently. I haven't made significant progress for 2 weeks. I sit down every day to do something, but I'm not ticking off tasks. I'm in the process of rewriting this shield controller to improve optimisation. Base shields in my game only absorb beam weapons, so I had to write a whole collision layer system to match up shield doctrines, shield penetration on weapons and shield collisions. I have two kinds of shields, omnishields, that surround the ship and absorb energy weapons and deflectors, which only cover a small sector, but can deflect physical objects as well (you could probably also use it for ramming). The system points for the ship is fundamentally different from the armaments, as multiple armaments can be added, whereas systems all need to be unique (can't have two shields, or two armour). I made this design decision partly due to technical limitations of adding layering shields and so on, but now thinking about it, this system makes more sense from a game balance perspective as well. I have added mods to shields to change their behaviour or functionality, but this is the current implementation of the system. I've got 18 systems planned for the demo ranging from shields, deflectors, cloak, armour, batteries, sensors and so on. This should give players some range as to what to fit to their ship. The frigate (in the video) has 4 system slots, so their is a range of choices for defence. I'm still working out the action system for shields, because its difficult to come up with different actions aside from 'activate'. Might try some sort of synergy system where shield actions can affect other modules.
in godot animator, node is it better to use quaternion or basis ?
>>499721865lol based
>>499721865Makes sense
>>499723010i don't "actively ignore" any game. i support whatever i find interesting or is good. what can i say. post your game now and i will tell you what i think of it, and i won't troll.
>>499718220some of them are entertaining desu
>>499723069nice
>>499723010Take your meds schizo, the ones you set aside as as suicide method.
>>499720586>>499719860>>499720052absolutely insane that the 4 person anonymous basket-weaving collab banned their #4 because his basket-weaving was wrongthinkI would hesitate to ban someone spamming literal virus links
>>499723069you are >>499723010 aren't you
>>499722894i could post progress but there is a local schizo that will always call my progress "AI" without proof
>>499723862who cares just post.
>>499723362The underlying data is stored as a basis, but the quaternion accessor is more convenient if you don't need scale.
>>499723576KILL YOURSELF. I mean that. I didn't come here to appeal to you fucking faggot. I remember a time before you were ever here. Things were good back then. Things were peaceful, and some of the most talented devs this good earth had ever seen were just chilling here. Then you came along and everything fell apart into complete anarchy. All the good people left. EVERYONE FUCKING LEFT. You ruined this beautiful perfect refuge where the last sane people on earth were spending their time and I will NEVER forgive you for that. You took this away from me. Your game is ASS. And you are a scummy faggot who deserves nothing. Good day.
>>499723815oh fuuuuck I was thinking it might be that feroriom guy or whatever that game is, but this is a good guess too
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>>499724031your game lacks the goth bitches it requires for me to care
i wish i had a schizo...
>>499723957
>>499724031that is why i don't post progress anymore fucking schizos
>>499723576You're lying.
>>499724031i'm not even one of the people you were replying to, i'm just offered to give you attention and perhaps come to a conclusion as to why you don't get the attention you think you deserve.
i need a gamedev partner
>>499724370aislop
>>499723713They had their chance to have me in charge of the collab.
>>499723815No, I made a personal rule a few years ago when posting on /agdg/ to only post progress or reply to feedback. Addendum to >>499723069With the new collision layer system, I figured out how to ignore things like stations, so player ships no longer explode when activating shields in a dock.
>>499724659meds
>>499724848so post it from a different angle (you cant)
>>499722237Rolling Ball KINO
>He isn't already working on one of the ongoing /agdg/ collabsOh no no no!
>>499724892now post your game (you don't have one)
>>499724993you literally just mirrored the image faggot
>>499725047proof?
>>499724539me. what kind of game do you want to make partner
>>499725073unprove this *unzips dick*
>>499724539Same, except gamedev partner (female) (biological) (cute) (girlfriend)
>>499725047>no game
>>499724725very nice work
>>499724725I wish you'd show us some maximum-potential footage of your game: Fully kitted out ship with 20+ enemies on the screen in a big fire fight, or whatever your vision of maximum fun would be.
>>499724958Let me in faggot.
>>499725110i'm not sure, i was hoping me and my gamedev partner(s) could brainstorm and come up with something together
>>499723069> I sit down every day to do something, but I'm not ticking off tasks.Take a break. Like, take an actual break. Don't sit in front of your editor/IDE, don't even open it. Don't think about your game. Take a week or two doing something else completely. Then come back to it and have at it. Sometimes you need a bit of mental relaxation, and just "I'm going to go at it at a slower pace" isn't relaxation.Your game looks neat but something that jumps out immediately is that it's way too dark, in my opinion. I think either the ships need to be brighter / more illuminated, or the backgrounds need to be brighter, or both. It's good that they have those circle effects around it but when all you can see is the circles, not so great.
>>499725275>aislop>game
>>499725669she looks like she fucks fat balding AI generated men
>>499711560If I could 3D like this I'd make it.>>499711879What are the odds if I went back to 2014?
>>499722917Your levels suck!
one whole usable button
>>499722979Cleaner?
>>499724701You're welcome to start your own.
>>499719278>>499719541>>499719860>>499720586>>499721865>that one demo day Stern shitted on FaggyGreen's gameI could never hate him for that reason alone, but it is funny because Stern's own games have trouble running. Just one tard insulting another.
mini progresschanged some interaction stuff and now the machine accepts one or two cups, having three slots for them, no longer popping them on the side when finishedthere's a big lack of visual stuff to know where you can click and stuff I gotta figure out later
>>499726695i hope those are placeholder assets
>>499726808why?
>>499726476>shittedLmao at the ESL thinking his opinion matters.
>>499725334It's not that kind of game. Maximum amount of enemies is probably around 5 or 6. It's closer to FTL: Faster than Light than anything else. I recently read an article with a quantitative definition of fun, linking it closely to flow state. Flow state is when a person is at the optimal point of their skill vs the challenge of the task they are engaged in. Fun is the average level of flow across all tasks in a session. In an FPS or an action game, fun is generated from action or firefights, where the player is actively engaged in combat. This is why FPS focus on tight, linear game design, to keep players close to the action. In strategic or tactical games, the fun comes from thinking ahead and planning.At its core, my game is less about the combat and more about the decisions that lead up to combat. The fun comes from build optimisation and planning for survival weighing the possible risks versus rewards. 'Fun' features:- PoE style passive skill tree, but with pseudorandom choice- Noita style weapon creation using building blocks to find interesting and optimised combinations- Hades style pseudorandom choice for crew, weapons, modules, passives etc.- FTL style ship building, choosing weapons, modules and crew- FTL style crew management, moving crew around, putting out fires, controlling oxygen / life support- Slay the Spire style risk vs reward node map, hunt elites or go for events?- Asteroids style control using Newtonian physics; use objects to block missiles, push asteroids into enemies, avoid impacts- Homeworld / The expanse style aesthetic and soundFor me at least, it combines all the best features of my favourite games PoE, Noita, Hades, FTL, StS, Homeworld etc.Until all these parts are linked, it's difficult to demonstrate, but demo will be out soon(tm).
>>499726808yeah eventually ill just download a bunch of slop models
>>499721865I'm barely into my project and already realizing how important this is. From the basics of keeping scriptables and game object's concern separated, everything spirals out. It seems very easy to outrun your headlights with game dev.
>>499658138>I've briefly looked at your page in the past and noticed that it says you're doing it to learn gamedev or somethingI started ~ 3.5 years ago so it's been a while.I'm just trying to learn everything. There's a lot I'd like to improve once I finally get to make a second game but I need to make at least 4 more enemies and their content / a lot of environment details / story bullshit before I'm done. For example, the game isn't very moddable and the art design can have issues with antialiasing / it's awkward to animate / takes way too long to make.
>>499726286niceI guessI'd like to see a hook in your game>>499726695nicesee this has a hook. A barista simulator. Could be fun, interested to know more
things are boutta get CRAZY
>>499726903> it combines all the best features of my favourite games PoE, Noita, Hades, FTL, StS, Homeworld etc.
>>499715621>you are a hot girl sunbathing naked>some kids steal your clothes and towel>you need to get back to your house from the beach without being seen by npcs who will snap photos of you, police get called etc
>>499727196KILL YOURSELF. I mean that. I didn't come here to appeal to you fucking faggot. I remember a time before you were ever here. Things were good back then. Things were peaceful, and some of the most talented devs this good earth had ever seen were just chilling here. Then you came along and everything fell apart into complete anarchy. All the good people left. EVERYONE FUCKING LEFT. You ruined this beautiful perfect refuge where the last sane people on earth were spending their time and I will NEVER forgive you for that. You took this away from me. Your game is ASS. And you are a scummy faggot who deserves nothing. Good day.
>>499712757My game is still not done after all these years.
>>499728206headcanon
>>499727681>be in rape capital of the world>look, Ed, a hot naked girl!>let's call the police
>>499727191I'm still just getting my fundamentals down, then I'll refine a hook.
>>499728298who said that the game was set in stockholm?
>None of the plugins I had bookmarked hoping for a sale carried over to fabTIM YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTERD I FUCK YOU
>>499728454hey man make option be an enum instead of a string, its gonna avoid you tons of problemsbut keep in mind prefabs save them as numbers so dont modify their order in the enum definition ot thats gonna go bonkers
>>499718215Currently in my bocchi/bocchi cat girl arc>>499723069>I've been really demotivated recently.>I haven't made significant progress>I sit down every day to do something,Yeah for a few months, progress feels slow. It doesn't help that my game is probably ngmi either.
look at him just having fun in Java.https://youtu.be/BES9EKK4Aw4?si=QYVDcIFp3Viy4yCw
>>499728454>>499728774i recommend assigning numbers to your enums straight away to avoid future conflicts in serialization and so on too
>>499714259neutral evil lol. i didn't want to deal with slopes or the effort of making the tinier steps with 100% working walking up/down such terrain like terrariachaotic good could work but id have to make the slopes very wide to accommodate it plus adjust the code so characters and other stuff doesn't start sliding down on such terrain which happened in the past when i tested it, in a separate project iirc to avoid messing stuff up in the actual project
does anyone want to make a card game together (in godot)
>>499729506only if you post a complete game design document
Are you expecting to receive fan art during the next demo day?
Does anybody know what the fuck "IDX" means in shader code? I see it used a lot but it's never explained. What does it stand for? It can't be like using "i" as a loop index, it's an acronym.
>>499729569it's texas holdem, but with sex
>>499729506I might be down. What kind of card game? Any hooks?
>>499729631she looks like her game will flop (marmo's curse)
>>499729631nyo
>>499729506what kind of card game, how long will the project last, and what do you need? im very rusty regarding godot tho. i can only badly draw and write some code.i wanted to abondon my current project anyways to work on an old card game of mine, so i wouldnt mind working on yours if it sounds more interesting
>>499728774>>499729259Thanks for the advice, I'll take it
>>499729783the game already succeeded (it was crowdfunded)
contra shattered soldier was a good game
>>499730019kicksharter doesn't even provide 1% the revenue of a steam release
>>499729661idx isn't a shader language keyword, look at where it was declared. But it usually means index.
>>499730120steam takes a higher cut from sales than kickstarter thougheverbeit
>>499729661why would you not just post the code here or into an llm instead of a question like this
>>499730230REVENUE RETARDREVENUECONSUMERS DO NOT USE FUCKING KICKSTARTER
>>499730295relax
Progress
>>499730121I knew it was for indexes. But I'm just now realizing that's literally "index", like "InDeX". That's fucking gay. Why not just call it "index"? What the fuck is the removal of two letters going to do? Fucking homos
>>499730374no. shut your shitposting mouth.
>>499730094this game has good odds of making you are now on the secondary list for potential to /make it/, i await you to get seethe from redditors like tricky madness dev did
>>499730554the pot calling the kettle black
your game will never be fun to play
>>499730378Is this game played with a mouse or something?
>>499730437Because it takes less space and less to type and because everyone who isn't a giant cocksucking nodev faggot with an IQ of 80 has no problem with idx standing for index.
>>499730649Yes, you are. Kickstarter funding is not "success". Stop posting.
>>499730676i know, thats why i stopped making games
>>499730781>Kickstarter funding is not "success".
>>499730730OK, retard, just remove all the plurals from your variable names. That'll make it awesome to read. You saved a whole TWO keystrokes. You've got a fucking limit of 10 per day after all, and you need all the code to fit under 30 characters because it's the 5th window in your tranny tiling window manager stacked to the side by all the gay porn, fucking gay nigger faggot.
>>499730978Correct. WOW look how successful Hollow Knight was! It made 40,000 dollars!
>>499730710No, controller or keyboard. Those are WIP homing projectiles.
AIsir hours>schizo hours>avatarfag hours>progress hours
>>499730676Then how do I have fun playing it?
>>499730781ks funding is the first step in the road to success
>>499730378KILL YOURSELF. I mean that. I didn't come here to watch a man on a horse fighting a ufo you fucking faggot. I remember a time before you were ever here. Things were good back then. Things were peaceful, and some of the most talented devs this good earth had ever seen were just chilling here. Then you came along and everything fell apart into complete anarchy. All the good people left. EVERYONE FUCKING LEFT. You ruined this beautiful perfect refuge where the last sane people on earth were spending their time and I will NEVER forgive you for that. You took this away from me. Your game is ASS. And you are a scummy faggot who deserves nothing. Good day.
>>499730980Do you seriously write index instead of i for your for loops?
>>499731092Would it have been successful if it wasn't funded thougheverbeit?
>>499730980I can't help it if you're too stupid to read.
>>499731279Please do not make this a pasta
>>499731143true
my hook was stolen from me.
I'm finishing up my current project and therefore much more free to do a collaboration. Does anyone have any actual serious ideas or pitches?
>>499731213>>499731370
>ghosted my programmer again
>>499731961Just unghost me so I have a reason to keep programming instead of worrying whether you'll show back up or not.
>>499731961How hard it is to just say "my life has been shit and I haven't done anything in months, sorry" instead of just ghosting?
>>499732267>How hard it is to just say "my life has been shit and I haven't done anything in months, sorry" instead of just ghosting?very if you are autistic
>tfw the based youtube low poly guy uses ai images for face textureshave i been defeated?...
>>499732469Who?
Keep grinding anons, someday this could be you!
>>499733049>reddit screencap>""my wife's boyfriend""what a shithole
why do you let this retard make threads >>499711182
>>499731702My pitches depend on an artist. Like a dating sim with a funny gameplay twist is still fundamentally a dating sim and isn't going to be successful without good character designs.
>demos start becoming a trend for indies on steam >indie games start selling worseyou satisfied the gamers curiosity, why should they buy it?
>>499675342>high price>retarded regional pricing>dev has a history of weird shovelware>artstyle does not appeal to metroidvania enjoyers whatsoever>tranny tag>furfaggotry>>>why didn't it sellyou gotta ask?
>>499687157steam algorithm benefits you if you make a good game and get people to play itit aggressively hides away the shit nobody wants to play so you simply gotta prove your game and you're fine
>>499733183Obviously a parody. I refuse to believe otherwise.
>>499731961post your tits
>>499724370>he posted it againkys furfag AIslopper
>>499734751>no proof>no game
>>499734856where's your proof that it's not AIslopoh right you can't prove it because it's AIslopwhere's your gameoh right you don't have one because you're an AIslopper
>>499734942meds
I think I'm too drunk to dev
yea it's the latter seasons. we had our little early days of amateur hour fun but now we'll have successful games and even gfs. Like the latter season of the Big Bang Theory.Just don't forget where you came from. We'll all have that in common.On wards to the next chapter.
>Like the latter season of the Big Bang Theory.
>>499734942it's such a weird larp pretending some aislop gen is a 3d model
>>499735104at this point "retard" or "relax" is the bazinga of this place.
>>499735040>successful games>gfsStop anon, I can only take so much. I'll never have that beautiful doting shortstack of a wife, I'll never have a game that makes me rich, why must you say this ;_________;
>>499735381Pray and Believe.Mark 11:23-24
>>499735012I accept your concession
>>499735440oh God are you really the one making all these retarded Eric posts?
Which will it be gamedev man, break the rune on the left inscribed /GAMEDEV/ or the rune on the right inscribed /GF/>Gamedev pill will result in your skills improving dramatically with a successful game within 10 years. Nothing less than 5 million concurrent players playing at all times of the day.>GF pill will result in you getting your dream woman whomst will marry you.
>>499735160it just shows how desperate some people in here are to pretend they have a game
>>499735914If you wouldn't pick /gamedev/ in a heartbeat then you are ngmi
>EroDungeons literally releases today>madodev doesn't even grace us with his presence anymorewhat did he mean by this
>>4997060895hr Progress Report - main menu is done, autosave/load working, overly complicated player physics working, an array of free assets downloaded, name chosen by ChatGPT, jungle theme chosen by ChatGPT, player animations done, horror working, scoring system is working, dinner accomplished, liquor accomplished. I need to design the course/level now. It's a platformer, it's timed, you're scored based on the time it takes to finish and the par time between checkpoints. It's pointless to only play it once, the more runs you do the better, so I need to incentivize people to try at least a few times. No death, you pop at the last checkpoint, timer never stops. Maybe I'll add unlockable cosmetics for beating some preset times or some shit like that, whatever it takes, just gotta get people to do multiple runs. This is going to be a fun Halloween game.
>>499735748sometimes I post Eric pictures. But there are definitely others. Come to think of it, I don't post Eric pictures too often.
>excited to dev for next two days>get food poisoning or some shit
>>499735914GF since I already am a successful hobby dev with a game i like working on I haven't released
>>499735914I'd rather create.I love creating worlds. If I wanted a gf bad enough to abandon Game Dev, I'd just wage with my Comp Sci degree.I have a vision for pure ludokino. It is so.
>>499736156I only posted one eric one time. it's a rite of passage.
thinking of making a simplified version of Limbus Company's battle system for my game because holy shit it's the epitome of RPG game design
>>499735914The /GAMEDEV/ rune. I must succeed, it's not just for my sake, I must make it for them too! My magnum opus's of multiple dream games will be pulled from the void and into reality!
>>499736145Hooooooooooly Sooooouuuuuuuliiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
mass effectlike
>>499736145Fuck I hate level design. Maybe I'll just steal something.
Hey fellas hope your games are going well. I added a cell shader as well as some basic targets to shoot at. For DD purposes Im going to add a few more basic systems but I really need some feedback before I start to add to the game. I may am out of town during demo day but I want to try and stream for you guys next week. I have some really cool plans for this demo day but it may be a technical issue to make it happen.
so technically, if you make a really really really expensive microtransaction, somebody HAS to buy it right, because thats how human brains workthere is one person on this planet with a billion dollars that wouldn't blink twice at buying the limited 500 dollar golden gemmed monocle #1 in your game
>>499735546obsessed
>>499738187Did you make the UI emissive? might steal this for my mecha game..
>>499738370Yes I did. If you are using unity I can help you.
how my cliffs looking /agdg/?
>>499738726woah... are you making an xcomlike?
>>499738436Using Unreal for this project but I think I can figure it out. Just never thought of that somehowlooks rad
>>499738883Not sure how unreal works but I projected the UI in the world view and added a custom emission shader. Hope that helps.
>>499738882no. 2D mmorpg for browser.
what are some largely successful games that have come from /agd/? I know risk of rain 1 was one with Hoppo.
>>499738187noice. put a zeplin with agdg branding on the side to shoot down for DD
>>499739226world of horror, vallhalla
>>499739072>mmorpgAnon, I sincerely hope this is just for fun...
>>499739309Im on it
>>499739323oh I've been at it for a year. Its almost ready for alpha testing. But I need to spice up the environments and record some more footage of big battles.
if I'm a programmer how do I find an artist that wants to do a project with me while avoiding ghosters
>>499739469that's a cool game for 20 years ago
>>499738274>says the dude who keeps posting AIslop trying to pass it off as his own shit
>>499739469you're doing this for fun right?...
>>499739730Seconded.
>>499739848hater. its free 2 play, browser based, no signup, and no grinding. the ai npc commander will throw hordes at your group and try to kill you. theres friendly ai humans you have to help. no grinding bullshit. no killing 5 cows. >>499739942the problem is you guys all conflate MMO with MMORPG's. Nah I aint making an MMORPG and trying to compete with the established games on a content level. Its MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE (MMO).
>>499738726>>499739469>bro made a browser mmo but couldn't figure out how isometric tilesets workwhat how
>>499739730>>499740123you pay up or you dont
>>499740418By that logic they should be paying me instead.
>>499740332didn't you call it an mmorpg just now >>499739072
>>499740519i should've been more clear. its an MMOrpg not an mmoRPG. you feel me?
>>499740662NTA, but I feel you, bruh.
>>499739730For an anime style? Unironically impossible.
>>499740662both the terms MMO and MMORPG have been infected at this pointpeople call plenty of games MMOs that aren't and modern "MMORPGs" are a joke with basically nothing to do with the origins of the genrewhen you're using them people will assume stupid shit and won't know what you're talking about
>>499740861"I never played EQ but I heard contrarians saying stuff so I'm repeating it."
>>499740332>the problem is you guys all conflate MMO with MMORPG's. Nah I aint making an MMORPG>>499739226>no. 2D mmorpg for browser.I hope someone is just pretending to be you anon
In my game, the player is an amnesiac lesser god who can choose to be an adversary ( Devil-like figure ) or Good or something in between.The player starts in his own star sanctum ( the 3D Main Menu ), with a guide who knew the player before the amnesia.The player is being watched closely. https://youtu.be/7exl9UYd_p8?si=maAcwLR8pMh0DeuE
>>499740971I think you quoted the wrong post on that 2nd reply
>>499740971Cut him some slack, he is high off of solving a problem. He's happy and chilling.
the player can choose to ignore the limits of his power or accept the realization of what he is.For example, if the Player makes it to the Mountain of God at the center of the world, he will notice that his powers are not effective there. If he tries to assail certain holy men, he notices that they can ward against him while pagans cannot.
>>499739730I'm an artist primarily but I've started work on a game already so unless you don't mind
>>499740861thats why its a RETURVN to MMOrpg. We are reclaiming the term. I bait you in with mmorpg and say "uh yeah its like runescape" or whatever. then you play the game and go "uhh this isn't runescape". and then we proceed to debate the term MMO, MOG, MMORPG, mmorpg, mmoRPG, MMOrpg for eternity. Then I tell you, actually no the game is a MOBA. And we repeat the above.
>>499741390what kind of artist? pixel art, animations, 3d, etcartist is quite a wide term but yeah maybe itd be cool dunno idk
>>499741443Traditional and 3D and been trying to figure out animation
>>499713540>his player controller is in one place in his codeheh
>>499714259true neutralI guess I'm also in line with >>499715360
>>499740461good luck telling that to artists
>>499741801Why would I tell them that? It's your logic.
>unsubdivide mesh and smooth vertices>looks literally exactly the same but goes from 13000 tris to 2000whwaa i'm just worthless as a human
>>499740971why you hating on me dog. I elaborate more on my definition of mmorpg which is actually MMOrpg. I'm not even like the other mmo-devs who tell you they have started work on the game and then never finish because they are actually just trying to clone runescape or wow "with building" and then expect to compete with them in terms of content. i already worked on the networking for a year and not in gay ass C++ even though I used to do C++ networking. This game runs on fucking erlang. You are just operating off some script you know to repeat whenever some retard on the internet tells you they are working on a 100% science based MMORPG.
how dense is your gameplay density
>>499742024>MMOrpg
>>499742105it's so dense, every single frame has so many things going on
>>499742024Anon, I think you're trying to make a MMO sandbox, not MMORPG like others think. Still good though. I pray for your success.
>>4997421051.096 +/- 0.007 g/cc
>>499740970you'd be wrong thereUO and Asheron's Call were the games I didn't get to play but I played plenty of others including EQ, FFXI and Runescape (back when it launched in 2001 not the modern versions)genre went to shit with WoW
>>499742105Very dense.Go to the top of a mountain and find a village of Blue people with cream colored hair who make you a cup of hot cobbee.Go into the belly of a Sea Monster and find a society of deformed exiles living in its flesh like parasites.
>>499742218What changed that turned the genre to shit?
>>499713540mine is 3000
>game is 1 TB>requires 10,000 slop-cores to run>Ray Tracing Enabled>Looks like PSX.
>>499742484>>>/v/
>>499738882tacticsbros..
I just realized my dreams kind of look AI generated and also the story doesnt make any sense it sounds AI generated when i think about it.Am i a robot?I think im human but im not sure anymore.
Anyone want to do a Wars-like for a collaboration? Obviously not a pure Wars clone because the hardcore fans will just replay Advance Wars By Web and Advance Wars 2 mods, but I think a neat gimmick to make the game into its own thing would be to add terrain transformation features, like building or demolishing roads, bridges, fortifications.
>>499711418Every Steam game flopsEvery Patreon game succeedsStop paying steam 100$ to release your game on their dead platform
this is what I did today
>>499743118release on itch and offer $100 to the first person to beat my game 100% on stream.
>>499743040>ai is based on human brains>wow ai looks like what my brain imagines>am i ai?no
>>499742393WoW brought forward a shift towards soloing adding too much accessibility and slowly killing incentives for player interaction
>>499743193wow its just like minecraft
>>499739469Looks kinda cool, I like it. I'm not really into MMOs but interesting world is a must. Sure hope you're not aiming to make another Vampire Survivors like
>>499736070I'm just not posting progress anymore. Of course I'll drop some Itch keys here.
>>499743193Is this ray marched?Good work.
>>499742393Not that anon BUTWoW's success caused every single other MMO for the next 10 (20?) years to be infected with the same design philosophies, because everyone wanted to rake in money to be the next WoW. The problem being those design philosophies were fine..for a single game, but absolutely boring as the standard for the industry. PvP was greatly casualized, being changed from FFA PvP to Faction vs Faction. A much bigger emphasis was put on the story and quests as the go-to method for leveling up (it was very linear), whereas before level up was more free-form of exploring areas, finding the right one for you and killing shit there while avoiding getting killed by other players. WoW also put a much stronger emphasis on "every player is the main character/hero of his story!" and made it so every class has damage and solo leveling capabilities. Before WoW it was standard for there to be exclusively support classes that just couldn't level up alone. (Some exceptions being Priests/Clerics being able to farm Undead with their holy spells.) This was fine because MMOs were a social thing, partying up was to be expected. Not so much in WoW. WoW also made the "rush to final level and end-game content" more prominent, though it was started in Everquest.Worst of all is that innovation was completely stifled, no game tried to do something different because investors wanted the money guarantee of a game like WoW. Imagine if every single game (EVERY single one) after Minecraft was a voxel crafting game, for some good 10 years at least. You'd get sick of it.UO, Asheron's Call, Shadowbane, Lineage 2, Ragnarok, Dark Age of Camelot, City of Heroes, Silkroad, all of these MMOs were so fucking different from each other, yet after WoW came up all of them became the same flavor of off-brand WoW. Anyway I'm hitting the post limit and this is just morning so I'm still feeling woozy, I could go on but I need to work on my game. Resident MMO autist is signing off now.
>>499743193pretty impressive! now how do you gonna turn it into a game? Also I think the blue pillars shouldn't happen as water should stay on the sea level, right?
what are the best free AI tools to make video game assets at the moment?i won't get anywhere if i keep on hoping to find artists
>>499743438i'm making a minecraft style game
>>499743505you know in those isekai animes about MMORPG's? I always wonder what games they are based off of, because no fucken mmorpg is like that. I wish. And I remember, the Japanese didn't even play or make much MMORPG's. So seriously what game? In the 2000's i remember koreans made MMO's. They still do. And these koreans are small teams who don't know what the fuck they are doing or know much about networking so it was easy to hack the games. But did that matter? NO they still cranked out a shit ton of MMORPG's.
>>499742024>why you hating on me dogAnon, there are 2 layers you need to get through to be successful at gamedev. The 1st layer is getting enough technical expertise to make the game that you want to make. The 2nd layer is spending enough time on the content to make the game fun.I'm sure you will be able to get through the 1st layer just fine with enough effort. But what is the scope for for your gameplay? What is the unique selling point? It's the creative front i worry about. If you have a plan that is manageable then cool. I still don't understand what the core gameplay loop is.
>>499743497no>>499743656we'll see, i have a few ideas cooking
>>499744143manga is usually the ideaguy medium. I don't think they are based off of anything except the author's dream game idea.
>>499744268Hm, it looks ray marched. That's all triangles then?
>>499743301Seems to me like the change is from "big world where you kill monsters n shiet" to "authored leveling experience with story (single-player RPG with online elements)"
>>499743505You're retarded. People still make and play other kinds of MMO. MMO as a social genre is dead because Discord is the most popular MMO. Not as many people bother to hang out at the Free Market or bankstand at Varrock, or jump around the top of Orgrimmar bank when there are easier access chat rooms.>>499744143They're mostly based off Dragon Quest.
>>499744143>isekai animes about MMORPGIt drives me crazy that they keep making these but all the license games about them are total slop instead of MAKING THE FUCKING MMORPG FEATURED IN THE ANIME. I don't care if it's not a VRMMO let me play some of these fucking games.
>>499744302yep
>>499744358I am thoroughly surprised. This looks ray marched.
So basically with all this modern PBR material crap, everything is just rendered with the same shader? Excluding special effects and post processing shaders and stuff, of course
>>499744143>So seriously what game?tabletop RPGs more than likely
>>499744347There's a couple that's clearly going off Ragnarok and/or Mabinogi.
I used to be pretty anti-marketing, but I think I'm making a complete 180 reversal of opinion on the subject. Marketing is awesome and incredibly fun once you realize how you're actually supposed to market your game.
>>499744143Koreans moved on to make mobile gacha and mobile "MMORPGs" which often have no MMO or even RPG aspects to them but they're just some sort of autoplay garbage
>>499744404i've never done ray marching, i've just always rendered my voxels the old fashion way
>>499744443for maximum performance the pbr material shaders get "compiled" into multiple variants with unused features stripped out or constants baked in, at least in game engines
when you're making variants of an existing asset how many do you make? Like say i have a shrub, how many shrubs do i need to make so that it doesn't feel copy and pasted?
>>499744307yes and that is a big problem because the authored leveling experience is awfulI don't get into massively multiplayer online games to run through hours of solo story content before I'm allowed to play the gamelike anon pointed out here >>499743505 it was fine when it was just WoW because it was something new and different and originally WoW's wasn't even that authored it had some exploration and player choice in where to go but after seeing it in dozens of games I never want to see it again
>>499733049I would not work with a woman nor her cuck redditor husband.
>>499744535Any isekai story with a hero (yuusha) and a demon-lord (maou) traces its lineage to the old Dragon Quests. It's what spawned all the "Adventurer's Guild", underestimated broken "Skills", "I got kicked out of my party", etc. All those memes come from DQ. Even games like Pokemon build off the same memes (Elite Four = Shitennou = Four Heavenly Kings).
>>499745034You're talking about isekai in general and you're not wrong. There's a couple where the worlds or fictional games are clearly based off Ragnarok or Mabi.
>>499735914Sounds like black magic. I'm already successful, I don't need powers beyond my own to achieve further success. I doubt I'll ever reach 5 million concurrent players but I don't want that many, just tens of thousands is enough.
>>499745139Gaming is saved
>>499745139>posting watermarked alpha footagenice nda violation, chud
>>499744252I am building up the atmosphere in the game world then I will show off the gameplay loop. The game world is divided into territories. There is this aspect of capturing territory from goblins and gaining loot for doing so. The idea is to force players together to take on these goblin clans who are numerous in number. As you stay alive longer in the game and get more powerful you attract the attention of the goblin commander, who is always tracking reports/statistics it receives from squads in the field to measure territory ownership. The commander is trying to wipe you out and achieve a steady state w.r.t world territory ownership. It has a frontline it wants to maintain. This is the most basic gameplay loop. It will expand from there. I can add a human npc faction that will spawn alongside player waves. Now suddenly the game has become a MOBA. Is it an MMORPG MOBA? Is it a new genre? I think of it like medium frequency MOBA or long-term MOBA. Its like the baseball of MOBA's. Or maybe cricket is a better comparison. A slow moving match. But then I'm also taking cues from the director system from Left4Dead. Now all these gameplay systems are implemented in CODE but I have to record a footage of an actual match in session and not freeplay. I will do that soon. NOW EVEN ALL THAT withstanding. What is the unique selling point? Well you can just go to the website and fucking play the game if there is a server in your region. Thats it. No sign up. You can check it out for 30 seconds and then disconnect before you even spawn but HEY atleast I got your attention. And when is the last time you saw a browser game with SCALE? Many networked players and enemies? I want this spectacle. And even if you get bored, you can check back in a few weeks or months.
>>499745034Yamada-kun is explicitly Tree of Savior.
another day of a little progress.feeling way more calm since i'm sticking to only one project and since i'm more consistent.i don't have to build rome in a day anymore starting with new ideas. i just stick to one and built upon my progress over and over. it removes the time pressure, since it's a marathon now and not a sprint anymore.i have the most pressure when i start with something new since i see a mountain of work ahead of me.right now i only focus on the next small step.only time you really should start a new project is when you finished the current one.
>>499745962I wouldn't call a real-world anime about kids who play an MMO an "isekai".
>>499744347>People still make and play other kinds of MMOClearly fucking not. Look at the amount of MMOs released in 2004, 2005, 2006, and then look at 2018, 2019, 2020, and so on.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_games"Other kinds", I was there for the wave of WoW clones, Aion, Runes of Magic, Allods, I was there when they gutted Guild Wars into Guild Wars 2. If you're a zoomer who doesn't know anything more than WoW and FF then don't bother replying to me. Go and play 3 random MMOs from 2024 and 3 random MMOs from 2004 and see the difference between them before you talk. The only noticeable different formula in recent times is Albion Online but I'm really not fond of their weapon skill systems.
>>499745034>It's what spawned all the "Adventurer's Guild", All those memes come from DQThere's no such thing in DQ dude, adventurer's guild came from Monster Hunter first. (Also Final Fantasy at some point.)
>>499746206you can check out m&m, it kind of looks and plays like unityslop though
>>499746206Yeahhhh, mmorpgs are pretty much dead. I used to be super into them back in the day, spend all day every day playing them. The main thing mmos had for them back in the day was that they were one of the only places to communicate with other people from around the world. Now that that's easy, it's just not as appealing. Everything is min maxed to the teeth nowadays and you're an asshole if you don't know how to do everything perfectly because you're wasting other people's time. I hope someday there is a new good old school mmo, but I highly doubt it. It will take something completely new I think to bring the genre back to its glory days.
Place of my work caught fire yesterday evening. I think I'll have more time for devving now
>>499745034>hero (yuusha) and a demon-lord (maou) traces its lineage to the old Dragon QuestsDQ didn't form in a vacuum. A lot of its tropes came straight out of fantasy manga.>Adventurer's Guildlol no, that shit came from Monster Hunter.>underestimated broken "Skills"Dark Souls. >"I got kicked out of my party"MMO slop from people still mad the class they liked was shit.>Elite Four = Shitennou = Four Heavenly KingsManga trope.
>>499746172Most isekai don't involve MMOs at all.
>>499746728>Dark Souls.i don't think you're old enough to reply to that post.
you know what my game needs? a tabletop board game version
>>499746206I bet I've clocked more hours into MMOs than you have. MMOs converged on the WoW "theme park" formula because players enjoyed that the most. MMOs that try to do something different end up flopping and dying. Look at FFXIV. They tried to do something different at launch and everyone hated it, so they redid the entire game and converted it into a WoW clone. There are a ton of MMOs that you haven't heard of or played, because they suck, and many suck because they try to do something original.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EteKvR5PnXQ&list=PLEpisdBgNpvgyQcUgTbqrgQzx_u19Rkkz
>>499746728>>499745034You're both dumb. "Kicked out of my party" trope does not come from any video game whatsoever, it comes from resentment of authors being fired from their jobs or excluded from friend groups in school. t. isekai pro
>>499746932>many suck because they try to do something original.nah they get crabbed by wowfags for not being wow. wowfags bully every mmo gamer that isn't playing wow until they play wow.
>>499746983I kneel
>>499725607I get what you are saying, it could be burnout, but you can push through burnout.Thanks for the feedback. The reason it's so dark is that it's on the outer edge of the system (furthest from the sun). Player starts on the outer edge of the system and as they move closer to the centre, the lighting increases.I'm doing all the testing in the starter locus, so everything will look too dark. Vid related is the final locus brightness.>>499728867We are all going to make it.
>>499746983Isekai authors never had jobs, their biggest grievance in life was the time they got kicked out of their dungeon finder group because they were shit at the game.
>>499746932Very few MMO's tried to actually do something original. They took the existing base of WoW and then tried to add some gimick on top of it. But the core world design, combat design, etc is the same.They didn't do anything radically different. so the koreans just kept churning this shit out which makes a bulk of the MMO releases. And all the korean stuff is designed around making money off kids playing in PC cafes. The gameplay is all inherently built off that concept. Now stop arguing about who is the "best most legit" mmo player in the thread.
>>499747059How can that be the case? Not even WoWags enjoy WoW. They're all searching for the next "big MMO".
>>499746932The theme park meme exists because it's easier to develop content as standalone experiences. Infinite horizontal progression is a pipedream, new content has to supersede old content, they can't coexist.
Should I use the same story as my comic?
>>499746932>bet I've clocked more hours into MMOs than you haveNo I really don't think so. Name the MMOs you played the most and at what age you started. I'm not proud of wasting my youth on video games but I'm fairly sure I have you beaten at that.>MMOs converged on the WoW "theme park" formula because players enjoyed that the most. The mainstream, casual audience prefers the theme park formula? Yeah agreed. Of course the majority of people will congregate to the blander, easier game. That holds true for every genre, it's not an issue and never was. >MMOs that try to do something different end up flopping and dying.Wrong. The problem was that for a long time, investors held expectations of their new MMOs reaching WoW numbers. A lot of MMOs wanted to take a slice of WoW's pie, compete with it and take their players, when they should have carved their own niche. It also doesn't help that some retarded subset of the WoW fanbase desperately wanted a "WoW killer" and wanted every MMO to be a better WoW (because of some personal issues they had with it), only to then complain about the game not being that before returning to WoW. There are 1195 ACTIVE Lineage 2 private servers right now. The top 20 servers have a minimum of 50k players each. This is a game from fucking 2004 and this is just L2 because that's what I still play lately, god knows how many MU Online or other servers there are. Obviously there's still a lot of people who want to play something other than the theme park formula, it's just that developers always use WoW's 6 million subscriptions as the target to make a profit, instead of making some cheaper lower poly MMO for 50k players, which could eventually be nurtured into having their million players.
My favorite MMO is Minecraft anarchy servers
>>499747207>Isekai authors never had jobsI dunno man, who do you think makes all those "salaryman died from too much overtime at a black company" isekais?
>>499739029Nice I was guessing you'd have to do that. Thank ye friend
>1 week to DD
so is any game with stealth automatically a stealth game?
I will never post my gameIWNPMG
>>499748252I will never finish my gameIWNFMG
>spam AI>finally ask how to use it to make a game>>499743950>no replyvery interesting
Which one should we be doing for Demo Day?>Post your game to show any progress at allor>Post your game only if you have a feature you need feedback on?
>>499748878If you're working on your game and have fixed things since last DD or added more stuff, you submit it to DD.If you have not done a single thing to your game (which I KNOW some of you are guilty of), you do NOT submit to DD.
>>499745417i'll give it a try during demo day when you get it ready. Could be fun as a 1-2 hours session game.
using ai = absolute creative freedom
>>499749484It really can't code worth a shit.
>>499749095What if I add one NPC with couple of dialog lines?
>>499748202no but it would obviously be described as featuring stealth if it's a big part of it. a stealth game has stealth as one of its main mechanics; if you can optionally stealth for short stints but are never truly required to, then it isn't a stealth game.
>>499747512That's not necessarily true. I actually ideaguyed about this with some guildmates long ago, and IMO WoW-clones could easily be refactored for horizontal progression.>>499747770For MMOs that I've put at least 1k+ hours into, Neopets as a kid if you want to count that. MapleStory and Runescape circa 2003 to 2007. WoW BC/WotLK 2007 to 2010. I hopped around a few dozen MMOs 2010 to 2017, but I don't think I broke 1k hours in any of those. Maybe 1k+ in Blade and Soul or Skyforge, but barely. I mainly played PoE during this time, if you want to count that as an MMO. OSRS in 2017-2018, FFXIV in 2018, WoW Classic throughout Covid, back to OSRS in 2021-2022.You NEED the mainstream casual audience in your MMO. MMOs are fun to more hardcore players because they are filled with filthy casuals that they pick on.What investors think doesn't really matter as much as what the players think, since MMOs are generally designed to only be fun when it has a large enough player base. If your game requires investors to sustain it after release, it's not a good game. At the end of the day, content is king and a fresh MMO just simply can't compete in terms of content with older MMOs.
So what UV unwrapping/mapping software do you use? Just what comes with blender or what? I'm considering swapping to something else just because it feels really clunky to use blender's system...
>>499749805>You NEED the mainstream casual audiencelol
>>499749785YepSkyrim has stealth, lockpicking, critical hits from being hidden et al. but it's not a stealth game.
>>499749669That's fine too, you've at least done something.
>AIHumiliation ritual
>>499748202it is, when I'm playing.
Hi have progress. Been reworking the test over world and I added a system for increasing your bag space. It now starts at 3 and you gotta find more bags. Pretty simple for now.
>>499749975glad i'm not you
>>499750781Cause you hate antisemitism?
>>499750948>hates new technologydefinitely a libtard or boomer
>>499751110>is fine with soulless resultsdefinitely a techbro or roblox kid
evil past me copypasted some code and now i have to fix it twicebut I wont remove the copypaste so future me will have to handle that again nyeeeeeeehehehehe
>>499751110Just can't make games. Simple as. I tried. It can't do shit creatively speaking
>>499751147>>499751206lol, as i said tech illterate boomer then. or low iq woman.
>ai fagsasked a questionyou didn't replyi know what kind of people you are now
>>499751110>*invents a brand new technology that rapes you in the ass and shreds your intestines*>heh, you just hate it because it's new technology. I love being raped in the ass and having my intestines shredded, because I'm not a dumb boomer
>>499751261>
>>499751331>ai*hides post*
>>499751356how does it rape me if it gives me free good looking art for $0?
>>499751423>ai>good looking artlmfao
>>499751481Done him
>>499751481glad i'm not you, stay hardstuck :)
>>499750757my boy moku, I was afraid you'd never show up again
>>499751423>how is it rape if I like it in the ass?
>>499751481seeeethiiiiing
>grim rapist pedo tries to show everyone how wrong he is about everything episode number 999900009
>>499751641Is that gif of details appearing and disappearing and the hair and clothing changing every frame meant to disprove me?
>>499722365no i don't really post here anymore
>>499751641I just can't get over that one hand that is constantly in half-resting position, like it's been damaged. It's here, it's on dozens of animations created or generated by Cris and I don't believe it's a fighting stance as it just looks so vulnerable.
>>499749805>MapleStory , Runescape, WoW, Blade and Soul>You NEED the mainstream casual audienceYeah I can see why you'd think that. We called people like you carebears back in the day. If you've never played UO, Shadowbane, Asheron's Call or L2 of course you'll never understand how non-theme park MMOs could succeed. I might as well explain snow to someone living in the jungle. This is a downside of anonymous arguing I guess.>At the end of the day, content is kingSpoken like a classic wowbab wanting to be taken on the content rollercoaster every expansion. Player interaction is king. People lose their lives to fucking mobas with the exact same map and exact same characters every time just because the player interactions are different. (Speaking of, mobas also did a blow to the MMO industry but that's for another thread.)We can quite literally never see eye to eye, you just grew up with an entirely different set of MMO experiences, it's like someone who only plays Minecraft for creative building mode and someone who only plays it for survival mode, we like the same game but for entirely different reasons.
>>499752042You can stop acting elitist over being an old fuck who can't separate nostalgia for an experience unique to its time over genuine quality.There's a reason those games are either dead or mostly dead, and that they don't make games like them anymore.And yes, I'm an old fart who was around for those as well.
>>499752042MOBAs have 100+ different characters and items each, and new ones get added all the time. That's content. Most people would rather play a game and be done with it after some time instead of playing the same thing over and over again. Games don't need to last forever.Either way, you'll never make an MMO, and I won't be either any time soon.
>>499746932sorry but you're too retarded to speak on this topic
>>499749882Blender I put all the seams in places the camera will never see and texture paint it like I'm painting a figurine
>>499752683>You can stop acting elitist over being an old fuck who can't separate nostalgia for an experience unique to its time over genuine quality.People still play those old games right now my dude. I never played Ragnarok or Mabinogi as a kid for example and had a blast playing it with /v/ on private servers.>There's a reason those games are either dead or mostly deadThere's multiple reasons. I covered some of them. What am I even being elitist about? Do you even know what I'm arguing about? Did you keep up with the reply chain? Or do you actually disagree with the notion that a MMO could "succeed" even if it doesn't follow the WoW formula?>>499752871I played Dota 2 during its hayday, the rate at which new items or heroes were added in 2013-2015 was glacial. For all intents and purposes you played mostly the same heroes over and over ,and it didn't stop me from putting 5k hours on multiple accounts.
>popular thing is... LE BAD!
>>499749805>You NEED the mainstream casual audience in your MMO.false>since MMOs are generally designed to only be fun when it has a large enough player basethey don't have to be designed like thatbefore WoW it was a niche genre with most games running a couple servers at most with a couple thousand active players each
>>499751617Life moves fast.
>>499752042>Player interaction is king.this so muchcontent is consumableplayer interaction is eternalif player interaction has enough depth it will keep the game alive just because players enjoy interacting with each other within the bounds of the game
you guys are making a game you want to play... right?
>>499753534Before WoW, the bros and I were hanging out at the public library playing Runescape. Before WoW, I was flirting with the girls from my high school at the MapleStory Free Market. MMOs were not that niche.>>499753658Like I said earlier, Discord is the most popular MMO now. That's where everyone goes to get their "player interaction". You don't need some obtuse "video game" to interact through anymore.>>499753393I played HoN during that time. IMO, it was the best of the 3 MOBAs, but it was the one to die because it was also the least accessible. Accessibly is really important for any online game.
i keep finding bugs aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>499754072>>>499753534>Before WoW, the bros and I were hanging out at the public library playing Runescape. Before WoW, I was flirting with the girls from my high school at the MapleStory Free Market. MMOs were not that niche.>>>>499753658>Like I said earlier, Discord is the most popular MMO now. That's where everyone goes to get their "player interaction". You don't need some obtuse "video game" to interact through anymore.>>>>499753393>I played HoN during that time. IMO, it was the best of the 3 MOBAs, but it was the one to die because it was also the least accessible. Accessibly is really important for any online game.
>>499754090>Entomology boasting in a video game development threadokay dude
>>499753960Melee cucks are gonna freak the fuck out
All the games I enjoyed as a kid are still relevant and enjoyed by many hundreds of thousands on the daily. All the games you enjoyed are irrelevant and kept on life support by a few autists. Maybe, I just have better tastes than you.
Who am I talking to? You'll never know because I didn't use the reply functionality.
>>499754405My favorite game was destroyed by some Cali douche at the first tournyNo one actually plays the game
>>499754072>You don't need some obtuse "video game" to interact through anymore.Meanwhile this shit sells just fine.Discord didn't kill MMOs. Lazy and greedy developers killed MMOs. Not to mention all the instances of them permanently banning players and stealing their money just because they said a bad word. Meanwhile old MMOs just had chat filters and ignore functions and called it a day.
I feel like I would not be able to make as much progress as I am now if it were not for chatgpt streamlining the process.>Hey how can I make movement take rotation into account? >Oh just apply a transformation etc etc>Hey, tell me how I can check if I hit a peak.>Oh just use a tolerance valueIts bad...
>>499753960Sort of. I'm trying to make games that are more in the "games I can make" category but still something I'd enjoy. I got a couple projects like that lined up with the hope that I can finish them, ship them and then move on to more complex projects.
>YOOOOOO>HAHClearly,Yoshi smokes weed
>>499755039yeah for that kind of stuff is kinda nice
>>499754072>Discord is the most popular MMO now. That's where everyone goes to get their "player interaction".that is not the same thing
I'm gonna make an MMORPG
I'm making a fun game based off of numbers and physicsYou aren't making tranny shit are you anon?Your parents are worried..
>>499753960No. I make games I think need to exist, but I won't know if they're fun until I finish them.
Amateur Game Stealer General
>>499754915>Lazy and greedy developers killed MMOs.And publishers. They stopped funding anything that wasn't trying to go for WoW tier profits which meant dumbed down WoW style MMO and widest possible audience meaning many of the games didn't appeal to anyone. They also utterly failed to be better than WoW so WoW players just went back to WoW after trying them.
>>499753960Yes... Too bad no one else wants to play it...
>>499755039This is the right way to use generative AI, like a tutor or colleague. Whenever I hit a brick wall, I just ask chatGPT for suggestions and sometimes it comes up with good stuff, and other times not so good stuff. It's the humans job at the end of the pipeline to realise what is good and what is not.
>Healed To DeathAdding more assets
>>499755165It's obviously not exactly the same, but before Discord, guild leaders needed to pay for a vent/TS, and you generally didn't talk to your internet friends except through the in-game chat, a forum, or IRC. Now, the entire social paradigm has shifted with Discord as the default for everyone. Everyone carries a smartphone with the discord app and takes their internet friends with them wherever they go. Guildies now hang out much more and chat outside of game-specific activities. "Guilds" are also more commonly multi-game nowadays.
>>499755739it's insane that you are making this in godot, it's almost unblievable
>don't stay on page actively after clicking get captcha>timer reset>have to wait 900 seconds before posting*sigh*You going to make it do demo day anon? Skipping? Missing it again?
any complete 2d art pack to make a game?
>>499756362rpgmaker
Madodev here. I haven't posted progress in a while, but Ero Dungeons has finally released!Here's some Itch keys since the game was too much for Steam.
>>499756093I'm skipping again. Maybe DD60.
>>499756470Got the first one, thanks Madodev!
>>499756470Did you get rejected from Steam?
I don't condone coomdev and I wish Mado and the other coomdevs didn't coomdev. With that said, I've got this feeling Mado will end up becoming #1 on the coomdev section of patreon within a few years. Anyone else think this too? Ugh I don't like saying this as it might encourage him and I'd rather he not continue down his current route, I'd rather he be eternally saved.I'm surprised how fast he finished that game, Mado, if you don't mind how much programming and art experience did you have prior to Ero-Witches?
tried retexturing a King's Field III enemy for practice. used a triplanar mapping into bake approach but it looks worse than the original, less detailed. the cut and underside especially looks quite baddoesn't seem like overlapping UVs affect performance either, so lesson learned. for whatever reason I thought overlapping UVs were some kind of sin
>>499756818>i hate you, but please give me advice
>>499756776Yep, got their generic rejection message. They can be very strict with anime porn games.>>499756818I'm not a programmer by trade, but I've been using Godot as a hobbyist for about 6-8 years now.The fact that I even wanted to make a coomgame meant I was already beyond saving, so don't worry about it.
>>499756362kenneyitch has some free stuff as wellopengameartthere was a roguelike that opensourced its entire art forgot the name but they're also on opengameart
>>499756916Did you try any other stores? DLSite/DMM?
nigga you are NOT making me go back
>>499756864I don't hate him, though. I'm curious how much time he's spent practicing/learning drawing and programming.>>499756916>hobbyist for about 6-8 years now.I see. Have you posted any games prior to Ero-Witches?>The fact that I even wanted to make a coomgame meant I was already beyond saving, so don't worry about it.Don't say that Mado, ;_; you can be saved. It's not impossible. It is possible to change your ways, to abadon the path of degeneracy you've taken.
>>499756857I like the caps on the left but the texel density is all over the place because of the approach you took
>>499757012I got contacted by JAST, and the game will release there as well.DLSite seems more for Japanese games, and I didn't get any good localization done.>>499757108>I see. Have you posted any games prior to Ero-Witches?No, I never got past the early "make mechanics" into the "now make content" stage. Ero Witches was the first game where I made a design document and stuck with it.
>>499757116>texel densityNobody gives a shit about it
>>499756818>I don't condone coomdevWhy?
>>499717743>Coding the character controller properly takes about an hourA decent character controller in the best case scenario would take you about 8 hours. That's with tutorials and no time wasted experimenting and finding things out..
>>499757337He's a jew worshiping good goy
>>499756818>With that said, I've got this feeling Mado will end up becoming #1 on the coomdev section of patreon within a few yearsNah his fetishes are too weird and mixed bag for mainstream appeal, also the art is just barely serviceable. Plus he'd be competing with pic related.
>>499757116texel density is fucked on the right? weird, I used a UV checker grid to try and get it reasonably consistent, and gave a bit more space to the bigger sections I thought the left's (original asset) approach to texturing would fuck up the texel density more if anything also why the fuck doesn't the grid checker make it so each square is a pixel, I set it to 128x128 and got fuck all squares, and setting it to 1280x1280 still only gives me 40 squares across
>>499757540>The art is barely serviceableNot for long
>>499757576Anon.... He said the opposite
>>499757678oh. 'because of the approach you took' threw me off because the left is from the game, the right was my attempt
For those of you with Unity experience, how woudl you do grass and terrain for 3rd person game? Using standard untiy terrain and grass? Because people keeptelling me unity grass sucks.
>>499756470>patreon grifting>actually releasing games
>>499753960You have to remember, there are times you as the developer know everything but it won't be fun for other players. Yes, even if you were reincarnated without knowledge of your game, you might think it sucks because it lacks a tutorial or it doesn't properly show you the mechanics or you should've cut out mechanics.You need to negotiate between the new player experience and what you want.
>>499757813Ignore texel density autists, nobody gives a shit as long as it's not completely egregious, especially for assets that are moving and not made to be stared at stationarilyProof: the retard who shat on the asset from the game
>>499758113beyond ignoring texel density, you're SUPPOSED to have an inconsistent texel density to prioritize pixels where they matter
>>499758113>>499758185This is bad advice
>>499756470>WFEhkZaf4zqKclaimedit's always the last one people don't take, huh?since I'm here I'll post a bit of progress: these two enemy variants have a + and x shaped attack respectively, so I gave them matching ribbons for their horns so the player doesn't get them mixed up.
>>499758248shut up retard
I keep reliving my memories of my first game making it and thinking I finally figured it out and I'm going to be a game dev for the rest of my career. how naive of me to think I can simply continue to be an outlier. to think that my success wad because of my skill and hard work. in fact those were just the price of the lottery ticket. now I'm living in my cousin's garage (actually an ancillary room which is nice and has a cot and A/C and a toilet) trying to repeat my success. instead I keep failing even harder.
What the heck is a texel
>>499758403https://www.google.com/search?q=What+the+heck+is+a+texel
>Ohhh I tried to enjoy that one game but>Ohhh the texel density I can't stand the texel density
>>499758403kinda the same as a riggyjixel
>>499758296No. I will not sit idly while you mislead developers with misinformation.
>>499758450>Texel is a municipality and an island with a population of 13,643 in North HollandI see...
texel density literally stops mattering if you start using texture filtering like every single PC game did, instead of trying to copy console graphics which looked horrendousconsole cultists need a reality check. This isn't 2003 anymore. We live in a time when we now know for a fact that consoles were astroturfed garbageware and have no merits
>>499758113I guess. ~95% of people probably don't care and even if they did they likely wouldn't be able to tell you what the issue is anywayit does bug me sometimes, enough to make me think the N64 style with texture filtering is better since it hides it>>499758403pic related. notice how the pixels of the textures are different sizesthe bed has big chunky pixels, the sink some nice small ones, the walls and floor somewhere in-between, and the characters somewhat smallish too>>499758689yeah. only drawback is that you lose the easy PS1 nostalgia points
>texel density
>>499758615>mislead developers with misinformation.that's what you're doing with your one-size-fits-all advice.
>>499758403See >>499758615It will explain to you what a texel is, what texel density is, why it's important and ways to deal with it.Actually, just go to the source link:https://www.beyondextent.com/deep-dives/deepdive-texeldensity
>>499758753but you gain the PC nostalgia points instead, and that is much more powerful
>>499758615>picture brings up the issue of blurryness because of linear filtering and vastly different pixel density>the model from king's field (commercially released and critically acclaimed video game) uses nearest filtering with acceptable level of different densityYou didn't even read the garbage you postedYou're a retard who parrots rules without understanding them at all and seethes with a frothing mouth at the most minute deviation because of your autistic obsession over following them perfectlyYou're objectively mentally handicapped and any advice you give should be instantly disregarded as a resultLeave this general and never come back you stupid nigger
>non-artist can't texture, focuses on arbitrary metrics like "texel density" to pretend to be an artistmany such cases
>>499758837You're the one with one size fits all advice that texel density should be ignored. See:>>499758113>Ignore texel density autists>>499758185>you're SUPPOSED to have an inconsistent texelVery dishonest of you.If you had actually read the image I posted you'd know it doesn't do that.
>>499759041post your work, you literal cris
so this "texel density" thing is just "mixels" but for 3d, right?
>>499757836dudes just get some grass asset
>>499758908If you didn't read what I posted why should I read what you posted?Stop giving bad advice.
>>499759209Kill yourself
>>499759159ye
>>499758376>first game making it>now I'm living in my cousin's garageThst doesn't make sense. You do understand what making it means, right? How much did your first game produce? A years wage? 3 maybe 5 years wages? Second green text sounds semi comfy though
>>499759113Ok, now post yours.
>>499759348thanks for proving my point, numbskull.
>>499758753The pic you posted is the perfect example why this shit doesn't matter. This is not a still frame the players look at for a long time, it's part of a dynamic scene where things are happening. You know where people will be looking at? At the characters in the middle. Most people would not look at the bed and the sink and see how pixely it is because that's not the focus of the scene and it'll be in their peripheral vision.
>>499759382>no work postedThanks for proving my point.You're not a game developer, you're here to crab and give bad advice and you lash out when some points you're acting in bad faith.
>>499759463Mr. Untextured Cubes is here to tell you that MIXELS ARE BAD!!!!!!
>>499759493You don't even have balls to post your work.
>>499759398no, nta but it does jump out of the screen. MGS is a heavyweight champion with different texture sizes too, its hard to find more egregious example.
>>499759582you even make the same "arguments" as cris
When I look in the mirror I feel like I'm looking at a stranger. I feel so ugly and worthless and unloveable but the person I'm puppeting looks normal. It doesn't feel like me
>>499759172But which one? There's plenty of them at the store, a some have hefty price tags.
How are non-bitmap fonts usually handled in games? I can't imagine that rasterizing vectors is particularly fast, even if you cache the results it seems like it could cause a noticeable hitch if a bunch of text appears on one frame...
>>499759348Wasn't this posted a year ago?
>>499759675>I feel so ugly and worthless and unloveable but the person I'm puppeting looks normal.Couldn't be me. I'm ugly on the inside AND outside.
cris is yesdev (based)
>>499759723Dunno if it was a year ago but I've posted it before.
cris is schizo (cute)
GM anons
>>499757336maybe if you have shit taste>>499757576>>499757813oh I thought the left was yours because it looked worseright looks way better as a whole
>>499759647You're the one that first asked me to post my work
>>499759714no clue, I'd say render out the entire character set to a texture but that might not be practical for something like chineseI'm pretty sure a lot of games leverage OS functionality for text rendering somehow, you can see stuff like cleartype going on
>>499759310after taxes 5 years all expenses. I think it's reasonable to say a game made it if lets you live comfortably for 5 years.
oh my god, the texels!
>>499758908early kings field games were fucking ugly bro you don't need to dicksuck them just because they were released by fromsoft>>499758753n64 style is better even if the games for n64 were hamstrung by the cartridge limitations causing a lot of the games be kinda ugly but n64 in tech itself was capable of much nicer graphics compared to ps1today you should absolutely emulate the n64 style rather than ps1 style
>>499760187i always hated those stupid flower things at the sleeves
>early kings field games were fucking ugly bro you don't need to dicksuck them just because they were released by fromsoft
>>499760360this but unironically
>>499759159yeah except you can't get it perfect in 3d but being sort of close helps a lothaving massively different texel sizes in a scene with relatively low res textures looks shit but texture filtering can help a bit
>>499760187>posting model with texture specifically made to analyze the texel densityThanks for proving my point.
>>499760391this but ironically
>>499760187doesn't matter when the textures are so high res that you can't see the difference unless you use point filtering and zoom closekey word high res
>>499760480You had me concerned the license tier would change over time as your revenues went up, but this is not the case. If you are currently earning revenues under $100k USD and purchase under the Personal tier, you won't be required to upgrade to the Pro tier if your game later earns more than that.
>>499760442Do I really need to draw a big red circle and an arrow for you to understand that this model is an example of massively inconsistent texel density being a good thing?
>>499760360bro look at these lit graphics I can't believe this isn't real life
>>499760649>noooo everything has to be photorealistic!!!!
>>499760649HOLY SHIT
me? I love the crust
>>499760509Bot reply?
>>499760591Do it. Keep proving my point that texel density is important. Really hammer it down so no one forgets.
>/agdg/ is infested with retards and now literally shill botsit's never been more over
>>499760713this but unironically
>>499760709Mind = boggled
>>499758185>me: "you're supposed to have an inconsistent texel density to prioritize pixels where they matter">you: "This is bad advice">...>you: "my point that texel density is important"You conceded. Argument over.
>>499760884There's no way we have bots since we have a super 15 minute email verified bot-deterrent in place.
>>499760709holy shit spolier that shit anon you nearly gave me a heart attack
>elden ring releases>suddenly everyone pretends they always knew about and loved my niche kino childhood game
>>499761173soulsniggers ruin everything
I had no idea aggy daggy was so passionate about texel density
Guys the brushstroke density in this painting is just all over the place, sometimes it's just one brush stroke but then other times like in the face there's just loads... Clearly the artist didn't know what he was doing
>>499761075Real boomers had already been playing X-Wing on their DOS machines for years by the time that released.
>>499761231I'm passionate speaking out against autistic retards
>>499756470Itch update. Why aren't you making a coomgame agdg?
>>499761058you:>Ignore texel density autists>beyond ignoring texel density...you now after your argument was destroyed:>my point isn't that you should ignore texel density
>>499756470i'll just grab it from fag95 :^)
>>499761350you're not even comprehensible anymore lmao
>>499761279I don't like coomgames
>>499761397Of course it's incomprehensible I quoted your nonsensical "advice"
>>499761279>someone bought 30 copies of ero dungeons
>>499761350>me: ignore texel density autists, it's fine as long as the difference is not egregious>you: NOOOOO THE TEXEL DENSITY HAS TO BE PERFECT OR IT'S RUINEDShut the fuck up retard
>>499761075Sad that zoomers have never once experienced innovation in their entire lives, just a yearly COD modern warfare rehash
being scared of failure and poverty is the biggest nodev fuel. cause you always play cost benefit games in your head which is an absolute death sentence for just doing something.
>>499761485>NOOOOO THE TEXEL DENSITY HAS TO BE PERFECT OR IT'S RUINEDNo one said that, retard.
>>499756995i meanno offense but-
>>499761458What can I say, the people want coomgames
>>499761595see>>499757116
>>499761456It's incomprehensible because you're quoting a different person from before I ever posted.
>>499761657Not even me like >>499761485 implied and also he doesn't say it had to be perfect just that it was "all over the place"
>>499761631this actively hurts my eyes
>>499761557>tfw if I release a game and it doesn't do well I will just fuck myself over with welfare very likely ending up with less money per monthIt do be a bit like that. It's a shit situation to be in. If I can't get enough momentum for my game there's no point in releasing it as a paid game.
>>499761557IF YOU’RE GOING TO TRY, GO ALL THE WAY. OTHERWISE, DON’T EVEN START. THIS COULD MEAN LOSING GIRLFRIENDS, WIVES, RELATIVES AND MAYBE EVEN YOUR MIND. IT COULD MEAN NOT EATING FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS. IT COULD MEAN FREEZING ON A PARK BENCH. IT COULD MEAN JAIL. IT COULD MEAN DERISION. IT COULD MEAN MOCKERY — ISOLATION. ISOLATION IS THE GIFT. ALL THE OTHERS ARE A TEST OF YOUR ENDURANCE, OF HOW MUCH YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IT. AND, YOU’LL DO IT, DESPITE REJECTION AND THE WORST ODDS. AND IT WILL BE BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN IMAGINE. IF YOU’RE GOING TO TRY, GO ALL THE WAY. THERE IS NO OTHER FEELING LIKE THAT. YOU WILL BE ALONE WITH THE GODS, AND THE NIGHTS WILL FLAME WITH FIRE. YOU WILL RIDE LIFE STRAIGHT TO PERFECT LAUGHTER. IT’S THE ONLY GOOD FIGHT THERE IS.
>>4997359145 million concurrently is like 2x fortnite's numbers, ill take that
>>499761557It makes you work but it doesn't necessarily make you do a better game. Exploring interesting game ideas and mechanics can only happen when you're comfortable and relaxed, not desperate to sell something.
>>499761702That's the point I'm arguing against, if you can't understand it I will take it as evidence I'm right
>>499761657as the poster of >>499757116 I assumed the better UVd one would be the one from the game but I never claimed they have to be perfect in fact they cannot be perfect because of how 3d worksmodelers should try to keep them somewhat consistent so that you get a uniform look for your game
>>499761997Finally, a sensible post.
fbx? gltf? obj?
>>499761948>me: you're supposed to have an inconsistent texel density to prioritize pixels where they matter>you: this is bad advicemeans that exact sentence is what you're arguing against. were you not trying to?
>>499762045Yes
>>499761279>Already sold more than Marmoreal, One Armed Bandit and Cosmic Call>Will soon sell more than all three combinedI don't like this game, I think it looks ugly and retarded and the content is not appealing. I think the gameplay looks dull and only delivers the next poorly drawn wank art that I could never wank to because it's so crudely drawn.But damn, you can't argue with the RESULTS. Congrats on making a game that people want to play.
>>499761631you didn't say they had to be good
>>499761720what i hate about shit like this is that they take one thing from a living world and stick it in a vacuum and build an entire strawman out of it. the left mushroom looks better for the hardware/software limitations and game and art direction.
>>499759675Could mentally ill anons stop working on games and work on themselves instead please? Its like you're trapped under the burning wreckage of a car and instead of escaping you decide to whip out a laptop and start writing short stories. Not the time.
>>499762045binary glTF
>>499762126
>>499762045.fbx is proprietary but popularthere's been somewhat of a push towards .gltf
>>499762178No but you see when they make the game and become successful all their problems will magically gets solved!>this is what they ironically think
>>499762081I feel the same about it. I don't get why people would pay for trash like that. Unfappable. Not that I would pay for porn either way lmao what kind of loser does that.
>>499762178Kek everyone is always telling these guys>Kill yourself, just die, just leaveNo no, stay. I want them to stay. Keep spinning their tires, keep failing when they try to focus and follow UNITY PONG TUTORIAL - NEW DEVELOPERS NEED TO KNOW THESE TRICKS! (32:10). I want them to stick around and keep trying to connect with anyone who will listen, only to find they only get engagement from people further down the hole then they are, dragging them even lower.I want them to be miserable for ever. I want them to know that's what they deserve for intruding on a hobby they don't even enjoy or participate in.
>>499762059I'm arguing mainly against the notion that texel density should be ignored, presented in both the following posts:>>499758113>>499758185but>you're supposed to have inconsistent texel densityIs also just as bad. See the picture in >>499758615 for more information
>>499762505Based totally mentally sound anon.
>>499762081Reviews ≠sales, anon.
>>499762602You keep posting that picture but it's clear that you yourself didn't even read it if you think it's relevant to the conversation
i wish there was a middle ground between reddit and 4chan.like, usernames like reddit, but moderation like 4chan. so i could just mute doomers, crybabies and nodevs.
>>499762689I've read it.A picture that advocates the importance of texel density is relevant as an argument against ignoring texel density.
>>499731334I use "i", I wouldn't almost next use "index", but I would absolutely never use "idx".
>>499762045I'm an fbx boy.
>>499762739>so i could just mute doomers, crybabies and nodevs.The reason those sites are shit are EXACTLY because you can mute people.Muting and blocking doesn't actually shit. The retards keep going on with their retardation, inviting even more retards until they infest and fester the site and every conversation more and more. The only difference it makes is that you can't see them, but the underlying sickness is still there, festering and slowly killing off the site, driving away people worth interacting with until all that's left is a site by retards for retards.
>>499762739Once you add usernames those people pretty much disappear.
>>499762792>"ignore texel density autists" is the same as "ignore texel density"Jump off a bridge already
>>499762602>>you're supposed to have inconsistent texel densityto prioritize pixels where they matter">Is also just as bad.Nope. It's not. I already proved it with a real 3d model. >>499760187That you couldn't even bother looking at because you thought it "le proved your point".
>>499762045obj
>>499761279Illegal in my country
>>499763241my condolences, korea-kun
>>499763023In that context it is.Stop giving bad advice and being disingenuous about it.
>>499763372The density difference in the original King's Field mushroom is completely fine, especially for a dynamic assetIf you thino therwise you're one of those retarded texel density autists
no no no no this isn't right this isn't the game I was making
>>499763041>I already proved it with a real 3d model.yeah you did, so did he to be fair. >>499758615the first sentence>texel density is a measurement unit used to make asset textures cohesive COMPARED TO each other throughout your entire world.
>Mods when they see Alice: D:<>Mods when they see Alice, JAPAN: :DWhat chepuha.
Tell me everything you think wrong on an esthetic level.
>success breeds jealousykek
>>499763041Yes, that is not correct because you're not "supposed to have inconsistent texel density". If you see a model with consistent texel density it isn't necessarily "wrong" because you're "supposed" to be inconsistent. It's a tradeoff you can do to prioritize texture space and detail at the cost of consistency.
>>499763878the background doesnt scroll
>>499763878the segmented orbit lines look way too noisy, the golden color used for them is ugly too
>>499763878No hot babes
>>499763931Stop quoting half my sentence out of context. This isn't a CNN job application.
>>499764028Sorry, best I can do is some hot harpy boys.
>>499764336blessed
>random town npc that spoils the game if you talk to him
>>499763498kinda crazy since alice's story is lowkey a videogame story, structurally and thematically i mean
>>499764774>NPC spoils the entire game in a way that you don't even realize she did until the endUnironically kino
>>499764336Meds. Now.
>>499763450The post you're alluding to didn't even say it was bad just pointed out it was "all over the place".If you label someone that merely points out a texel density inconsistency as "autist" and advocate for them to be ignored I will consider your statement equivalent to saying texel density as a concept should be ignored, and that is simply bad advice even if you are to decide to use varying texel densities.
>>499764015Define noisy.
>>499764774I swore off talking to NPCs in videogames once I realized the endpoint of such behavior is backtracking every time an event occurs and talking to every NPC you still have access to all over again in case their dialogue changed. Multiple times. During both day and night. As each character you can swap to.
>>499743467grats on your release!!
>>499711182why are zoomers obsessed with that particular hairstyle?
don't listen to anyone here. maybe 2% of posters here have earned even $1 from gamedev.
>>499765214not clean. overloads your eyes with STUFF. you could try having the lines for the planets (which I assume are not as important) be dashed lines instead for example.
>>499763041>to prioritize pixels where they matter"that made sense when they were working with limited memory and had to make the best of what they could with the hardware they were deving the game fordoesn't much make sense now when you can just have a decently uniform texel density across all your assets that suits the style you're going for and the game will be rendered at high res so differences in texel density when using low res textures is very easily visible like in that one MGS pic that was postedit wasn't as big of an issue on ps1 because the games were rendered at such low resolutions and the ps1 had its rendering flawsyour "proof" is also retarded because it's a model from a modern high def game using high res textures and texture filtering so the level of texel differences it has won't be visible in game
>>499765520Have you?
>>499765313I like it when games do something like a speech bubble on top of their head when they have new shit to say. Prevents that annoying shit.
>>499765313if I made a rpg I'd have some visual indicator that a npc has dialogue you haven't read yetit might be "game-y" for an rpg but who gives a fuck
>>499765520>earnedsir this is /agdg/
>>499765520Feels good to be the 2% (I have earned 15 bucks)
>>499736145It's been about 12 hours since I started on the design document. The level is done, the secrets are done, achievements are done, all the story work is done, I need to find and add some sounds to help round things out and the level could use a thick layer of aesthetic polish, but that's it, the game is feature-complete and playable and might actually be fun for masochists and try-hards.
>>499765827
>>499765793Okay it needs a lot of polish, but functionally the bitch is done.
>>499764047Fine, maybe that particular sentence can be interpreted as a choice, rather than a goal. It just seemed wrong due to the preceding one.
>>499765981
>>499766084>halloween game>scares people who hate mixelsvery spooky
I deserve far more success than I have.
have you moved on to linux yet like a proper yesdev?
>>499765827>>499765981wrong board and thread AIslopper
>>499766409did something happen with godot again?
>>499766204
i tired everything in my life, except trying to consistently work on one thing. this is my last strat before i give up. i give myself 365 days. i'm on day 20 right now and already did a lot of work. if my game still sucks at day 365 i will just retire into absolute neetdom.
>>499766409I'm moving once w10 support ends.
uh oh, who triggered the barone schizo?
>>499766639>except trying to consistently work on one thingThat's THE THING that everyone needs to succeed in any one thing they do.
>>499761631If you’re willing to pay 10-20 bucks, there are many deals on itch that give you a ton of coherent assets.
>>499765581Untextured Cubes Man >>499759348 tells Platinum Games >>499760187 how to texture their characters."just have a decently uniform texel density"surely you had no reason whatsoever for your non-uniform texel density. i couldn't possibly be wrong.
>>499766960That's not even me. You're also a coward for not posting your own work (if you even have any)
>>499766639You can work for 3650 days on your game and it might still suck. You need to get regular feedback and see if people are interested in your game, and learn when to pivot or make something else if you don't get any interestHard work is important, but hard work on the wrong thing will not produce value.
>>499767115Oh it's not?>>499765581Post your work.
>>499767175pivoting might be an option, but there's no way i'll start another project from scratch if this one fails.
>>499766960neither of those are my posts
>>499766639i feel you, i still have 214 days, if i dont find happiness until then, ill just end it. good luck on your journey
>>499766960>tells Platinum Games how to texture their characters.Did you even read the post you're replying to? That's a 3d model from a game designed for 1080p. All the other discussion has been related to pretty much games from the PS1/N64 era where texel size matters in the presentation.
>>499766639>365 days>>499767503>214 days>>499765793>It's been about 12 hours>the game is feature-completeagdg is wild
What's the secret sauce to making appealing npc's that will get lots of fan art?
The worst type of crabbing I see is the "hugboxing", people encouraging games like marmoreal to keep being worked on despite 0 interest from steam users. It's hard to give advice in situations like these but telling him to keep working on it after 10 years with these results is insane.
madodev, I will surpass you!
Aah cut a video to spam some subreddit but they only take gifs there
Madodev got angry and is now crabbing everyone.You love to see it.
>>499767851Surely plenty of people were giving negative feedback, too. In the end it’s Marmo’s choice to keep going.
>>499763878I don't like your gold and purple color scheme and why are the astronauts goat men?
>>499767851Your mentality is based on the wrong assumption that everyone in an amateur community has the ultimate goal of getting Steam users to play a game.
>>499767651Resolution doesn't change anything about what you do in this subject.
ugggh can't they get rid of all the ugly braces in c++? what if instead of { } we just put all that code in a nice cute circle?
>>499767729Attractive characters based on strong relatable stereotypes without being too stereotypical. They also have to be done tastefully so that the attractive part doesn't turn into coomerpandering. Like original Overwatch lineup. Sure there's some nice butts in there but dick hard must coom isn't the first thing that pops up when you see those designs. Those original OW designs walked that fine line which led to their popularity among the fanartists, cosplayers and SFM crowd.
>>499768235It absolutely does.
>>499765581>doesn't much make sense nowThere is always a cutting edge to technology and if you're riding it then it will always make sense. Now you have to decide between where to use 4k textures, 2k textures, 1k textures etc. Characters will always get priority over the environment.
>>499768183People like that exist (pomao, cris?) but they're a minority here and even if you do you can just release on itch.
>>499768453Nope. You're simply too stupid to get it. Like a blind man teaching how to paint.
>>499767729Make them sexually attractive, but less valuable as humans, add a fetish twist, this is the formula.Pick a game, look at the fanart. Deadlock, what's everyone drawing? Purple feet, and that nasty gargoyle creature with the sexy voice. Hottest TF2 character? The one hiding in the rubber suit who you can imagine is female. In all of Dragonball/DBZ/etc, what female character is consistently rated the fan favorite? Is it a human woman? Videl? Chi-Chi? Bulma? Nope, surveys say it's Android 18, the blonde robot who will totally love you for the iPhone charger in your pants. Hottest visual novel of all time? Katawa Shoujo, fight me.Make them sexually attractive, but less valuable as humans, add a hint of fetish. Make 'em robots, zombies, foreign, crippled, retarded, emotionally broken, #victim, barefoot, cries constantly, they can even just be kind of obnoxious so long as it's the kind of obnoxious that makes you want to stick your dick in it.
>>499768492Itch doesn't offer the same features as Steam. I'm particularly interested in Steam networking/matchmaking features and the ability to turn couch co-op games into online multiplayer seamlessly.
>>499767853post game?
>"you need good pixel art to sell your game">meanwhile one of the most popular indie games of all time
>>499768610It's real simple. >low resolution textures = big pixels>big texel size variety = big variety in visible texture pixels = ugly>high resolution textures = small pixels>+ texture filtering = you can't even see the difference
>>499766817none of the paid assets are coherent enough if you're going to spend money that's the problemeven worse, half of the packs are in early access>help it reach its goal!>i'll update when it happens>you can get previews on my patreon!!i have no fucking idea why any developer would unironically support thisyou're literally at a stop and the final assets can take years to comeand we're talking about 2d shit
>>499766639>i tired everything in my life
>>499769276Again it's like arguing with a blind man how to paint. Wordswordswords in direct conflict with objective reality. You can't tell the difference! THAT's why there's 5x as many pixels in one part of the model compared to the rest.
>>499769232on a technical level its not great but the character design is top notch
>>499769635I don't know what reality you live in.
>>499769731The one that's not a fabrication inside your head.
>>499769110not enough content yet please give me a few more months
Indie gamedev is my job. I just need to figure out how to start getting people to pay for my games
>>499769768How do you know?
>>499769873>How do you know?
>>499769841First you have to actually make a game, then you release it in such a way that people can purchase it with money.
>>499769276>low resolution textures = big pixelsyes>big texel size variety = big variety in visible texture pixels = uglyno. you made that up. all the best looking models and games have large varieties in texel size.>high resolution textures = small pixelsyes>+ texture filtering = you can't even see the differenceno. you made that up. all the best looking models and games have large varieties in texel size.
>>499758278>>499756565I fucked up, the earlier keys don't actually give access to the game. Use these instead.Fuck Itch, why would I want to create keys without any access.
I got a headache from how stupid you people are
>>499770001>then you release it in such a way that people can purchase it with money.That's a good idea. I will see if I can learn how to do that then I worry about the game part.
>>499769780ngmi vibes
a dialogue system that doesn't lock options behind requirements, outing you based on player knowledge and not your character's innate traits>hold up thumb/index/middle>hold up index/middle/ring
>>499711560that fucking sucks holy shit
>>499770052>all the best looking models and games have large varieties in texel size.What a retarded statement.
>>499770114I got the "fuck you" KEY. Thanks, again Madodev!
>>499770482not an argument
>>499770114Thanks. I grabbed the 2nd one.
>>499770326systems are ready and working I'm just working on the gorillion assets I need I swear!
>>499770670surely you have placeholder assetssounds like excuses to me
>>499770732>>499770732>>499770732
>>499770486Notice: This was a joke about the key starting with "fuKEY", I'm not intending to be rude.
>>499770482when i was in school this shit was week 1 year 1.i think the problem is someone half listens to a beginner tutorial or the takeaway summary of a talk and then they think they know what they are talking about.
guitar + (distorted) piano synth + drums and cymbals you like?
>>499770114some nerd took the last one after I said that nobody takes the last oneso I took the 2nd last one
>>499770879It was me, but I tried to activate third last key but missed a single letter
>>499770809>someone half listens to a beginner tutorial or the takeaway summary of a talk and then they think they know what they are talking about.that's literally you talking about your schooling
>>499771125ok
>>499770809>when i was in school this shit was week 1 year 1.to be clear which approach did they teach you?
>>499743193voxel space rendering?
>>499735914rolling, evens for gamedev
>>499750757aggy elder
>>499762045.stl
