act4 waiting roomhttps://www.dota2.com/patches/7.37d>INFORMATION & GUIDESEsports: https://dota2.com/esportsNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2game/LoreLiquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/dota2For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Main_PageX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.gghttps://datdota.comPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/570>NEWS & STREAMShttps://tl.net/forum/dota-2-general/https://trackdota.comhttps://gosugamers.net/dota2old: >>499625216
marci easily claims the first post
Lina stepped on the thread
>>499889250um based?
Buff Hoodwink
templar assassin in bondage when?
got banned for 24 hours guess i will enjoy the weekendso long suckers
>>499889525giwtwm
>>499885268>it wasnt half, it was less than half but you must exaggerate >857khttps://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-10>469khttps://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-2024-dota2This is around 54% of TI 2021, meaning it's entirely acceptable to say 2024 lost half of the viewership as a simple shorthand. 4% don't matter much in the face of a whopping 46% drop. >can you list some of these technical issues and complaints with production you have?Here you go. >After missing 2020 due to Covid and 2021’s event being without a crowd, the Dota 2 community was set for TI to return to its glory days. But so far things have not been going well.>Broadcasts for both the qualifiers and Last Chance Qualifier have all been done remotely, and featured a variety of technical issues. Many games were also not made available to stream directly in-game, forcing people to the official stream. PGL has also been criticised for not having the main broadcast panel and hosts on site in Singapore, instead choosing a remote broadcast from Norway, and many fans have also been angered by the introduction of a betting sponsor.>As you might expect, Dota 2 fans have not been impressed by any of this, with many voicing their displeasure on community hubs such as the Dota 2 Subreddit, including some well known Dota personalities. But now PGL is fighting back, by adding a new stipulation to the co-streaming rules that says you can’t say anything negative about them or the tournament so far if you want to broadcast the event.https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikestubbs/2022/10/14/pgl-bans-streamers-being-negative-when-broadcasting-the-international-dota-2-tournament/
Lower bracket final between Tundra and BetBoom startinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXKafs-Z41g
>>499894127>This is around 54% of TI 2021, meaning it's entirely acceptable to say 2024 lost half of the viewership as a simple shorthand. 4% don't matter much in the face of a whopping 46% drop.yeah its less than halfand peak was lower than half too>forbes articleok that was one ti in 2022, what has happened since then in terms of production?
>>499894127And as for calling ME of all people a shill, here's some perspective:>one guy says that Dota can reach enormous heights and be played on literal football stadiums in front of 50k crowds. He says Dota was on the way to being able to do this any time anyway BEFORE BEING INTENTIONALLY AND OPENLY SABOTAGED BY VALVE, a company that directly said it can't handle shipping some skins (the core of the battle pass) and doing in game events/updates at the same time. https://sg.news.yahoo.com/dota-2-to-move-away-from-battle-pass-release-ti-themed-update-in-september-061848620.html>other posters say: "it's OK when Valve does "a" even if it hurts Dota. It's OK when Valve does "b" even if it hurts Dota... It's OK when Valve does "x" even if it hurts Dota. Those aren't delays you're seeing, they are EXTENSIONS"
>>499894828yeah you ignore the consumer experience in favor of making profit
zoooooooo
If it wasn't for the icon I'd have no idea who this is
cheeeeennnn
jej sad slavs in the crowdshot post gg
>>499894591>what has happened since then in terms of production?I already described everything in the previous thread.>no prize pool, no opening ceremony, few main stage games, the UNIVERSALLY hated "road to TI" rebranding attempt meant to cover up the destruction of the event, no true sightFor comparison, TI 2017 had seven main stage games, compared three in 2024. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTwaEmDazsAnd Gabe still appears and says: "Welcome to TI, the absolute pinnacle of esports", despite it now being merely one of dozens of two million dollar tournaments across a vast array of esports. What does it have left back from the time it was actually the pinnacle? Only the name and the aegis.
Why does nightfall look like he is dying?
wtf is this thing
>>499897243>I already described everything in the previous thread.no you didnt, you avoided the question beforeti10 had production issueshttps://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/ti10-delayed-start-here-is-why-the-games-did-not-start-on-time>Many speculated there was a problem with production, but in reality, it was a technical fault that held up the start of TI10’s group stage games. In a livestream update, SUNSfan mentioned the reason for the delay.all that money for production and they still fucked upthis makes your argument that valve intentionally hurt ti even worseyou continue to ignore my points about the lack of interest in the player base of dota2 during the lead up of ti10 despite all the spectacle of the massive prize pool>For comparison, TI 2017 had seven main stage games, compared three in 2024. viewership of ti2024 was higher than ti2017all that extra money spent on production didnt translate into viewers
confirming match fixed yet or not?
>>499897696>viewership of ti2024 was higher than ti2017Kek, ok. I'm not going to reply to you anymore.But for other readers: TI of 2024 can only be compared to TI of 2021, since the absolute core of the playerbase is in Europe and hence a TI hosted in Europe will naturally have far larger viewership. Regional player breakdown is here:https://stratz.com/matches/graphsBut despite being a European TI, TI of 2024 did catastrophically bad and the next TI (probably hosted outside Europe and with a yet another 2 million dollar prize pool, if nothing changes) will very likely do MUCH worse.
malr1ne just played 3 primal beast games
>>499898625>Kek, ok. I'm not going to reply to you anymore.oh did the truth too much to bear?you want to compare ti2017 to ti2024 but when i do it doesnt countthis is massive cope> TI of 2024 can only be compared to TI of 2021, since the absolute core of the playerbase is in Europe and hence a TI hosted in Europe will naturally have far larger viewership.ti10 didnt grow the playerbase to new heightsthe next TI (probably hosted outside Europe and with a yet another 2 million dollar prize pool, if nothing changes) will very likely do MUCH worse.the sky is falling the sky is fallingfuck off chicken little
>>499897295>no platypus hero
miero and kiyotaka (depressed kid) are being exposed as the biggest frauds in the scene
>>499899023>you want to compare ti2017 to ti2024 but when i do it doesnt count>>>>>https://stratz.com/matches/graphs
>>499899204what about that page? you can take a screenshot of the data you want to presentyou also claimed you werent gonna reply to me again (which was another bold lie)
>>499899096The funny thing for me is pure getting #3 with tundra and then eliminated by tundra next event
>>499899287I don't intend to discuss this anymore, since you apparently didn't even know where Dota's playerbase is. The previous reply was me once again reiterating the point I already made by posting the same link.
>>499899656>I don't intend to discuss this anymore, since you apparently didn't even know where Dota's playerbase is.its not my burden to fulfill your claim, this is another attempt to hold this discussion in bad faith>The previous reply was me once again reiterating the point I already made by posting the same link.you are still replying
>>499899656>you apparently didn't even know where Dota's playerbase isSpeaking of which:>>499883351
>>499900106indirectly replying to me is still replyingshill
What's with the increase in autistic arguments
>>499900106also>>499883704and>>499884015which is never addressed since the points made were too strong for you to refute
>>499900404its my fault for responding to him
>>499900106You are the outsider and it's painfully obvious
How'd they fuck up the model this bad for where the quills should go
>>499900985yeah his doomshitting is thinly veiled>ok its not dead yet but it will be!!!
>back to unranked to expand hero pool>play dawnbreakerHoly shit she is so much fun, why don't more people play her? She's like a LoL hero when it comes to fun abilities but also dota balance and she can flex support. Is she bad/nerfed or easily countered?
>>499901394I rarely see her. Whenever I see her on the enemy I kind of ignore her. I also once had to support an offlane dawnbreaker, and honestly, she didnt do anything at all
>>499901394she's pretty good now but people are metaslaves
>>499901394she has received decent qol changes since introductionher shard is much better now and aghs was buffedfarming with her kinda sucks since abilities cost so much mana
>>499901734nice going to def play her more. Primal and her are so much fun but primal can't be played sup without griefing so I'll def add her to my roster.
>>499901873>cost a lot of manaisn't that like every char in the game though? Who legit farms primarily with abilities anyway. QoP is my (statisticly) best hero and she guzzles mana more than cum. And invoker feels like he has absolutely no waveclear (spells) until hyper late in the game so you just play him as a rightclicker.
>>499902154not exactly, bb quills are cheap and farm fastright clicking creeps with db is slow farm
>>499901931pb is perfectly fine as a pos 5, you just need a pos 1 player who doesnt grief when insulted with such a lackadaisical pick
>>499902376I'm herald so that isn't possible, my only option is too grief my team the least and hope enemy team griefs harder.
>>499902154>Who legit farms primarily with abilities anyway.once you get mana boots and kaya on Leshrac, you can pretty much farm with nothing but your abilities you have to spam clarities though until you get one more item that gives mana like a Euls or Bloodstone
>>499901394She's top tier but shitters don't know
What's stopping me from stacking mmr doubledown tokens and intentionally losing to be sent into wood mmr?
>>499903104losing behavior score
>>499903104basic human decency
>play unranked>longer queues than ranked>no one playing the positions>no thought into team comp>you can win by just afk farming as any hero then running down the enemy because they farm bad/just brool.>Someone actually told me to learn the game thereonly way to learn dota in NA is trial by fire
What happened to act 4?
>>499904024Delayed by around half a year, almost surely due to Deadlock. However, with the way things are going its going to be empty in around 2 months.
>>499903987i love unranked since you can mess around and not care, but sucks about the frequent long queue times
>>499904024Imperia won, shen and Dragonus are dead. The flightless are being barbacued for their sins.
>>499904275what do they taste like
>>499904256yeah I exclusively play lifestealer there since it's funny to power farm the map all game then just right click and be unkillable. Completely degenerate gameplay and it always makes me laugh.
>>499904367What do you think
>>499900985I'm literally informing Dota players about the dangers of Deadlock's existence.By the way: it's quite one ironic that a guy called "Uncle Dane" who leaked Deadlock ahead of time and presented it in a negative way could end up being an indirect savior of Dota. He's from the TF2 community, which faced Valve's destructively mercurial nature a long time ago. Whether it was due to his actions or not (probably the former), Valve has actually taken major steps aimed at developing TF2.
>>499905084Isnt Uncle Dane a self admitted gay pedophile?Or was that some other TF2 youtuber.
Saksa best support player of all time
>>499905490I don't literally anything about him aside from the fact that he leaked Deadlock as apparent revenge for Valve's treatment of TF2. I learned about it since I've been hanging around in Deadlock threads since May.
>>499905084that guy's servers are the only way to play tf2 nowadays
>>499905651>apparent revenge for Valve's treatment of TF2a game that still receives updates and working servers?
>>499905651>don't know >>499905706I thought Valve did a lot to make TF2 playable over the last several months. The TF2 subreddit has been celebrating the last time I checked around a month ago.
>>499905490Uncle dane isn't a pedophile. But he is a cuckold. He used to be in stupid mario bros, and he played ash ketchum. Anyway the guy playing mario stole his gf.
Why shouldn't I build scepter and refresher on kunkka?
popping hoodwink's beans
>>499906273because the new one is ass
>>499904275holy based
>>499906273But you should, its the only real build.Melee kunkka is extremely situational and only retards play it.real kunkka chads build scepter
>>499905829I never played TF2, but everyone in its community said the game's official servers were unplayable due to bots for many many years. Around July Valve has taken a host of actions aimed at removing them. Many speculate this was done to quell the anger and contempt of TF2 players who started cursing Deadlock immediate since it appeared in public view.
Fem orc hero when?
>>499907612>speculation
>>499907802>many years pass and nothing gets done>action taken very quickly after a new game is leaked by a TF2 personality and gets immediately attacked by TF2 players
>>499907938correlation does not equal causation
>>499906273could you dotorrent - ship - torrent - ship - ship chain stun with it?
>>499908027Ahh, seems like you're the "extended crownfall" poster.
>>499908079yep you could
The only thing I know for real is that Valve hardly cares about dota anymore and its full focused on Deadlock because they need a new cashcow.It wouldn't mind if the game was left in an actual playable state instead of the sad pathetic state it currently is. don't care about hats or events, just give me actual performance, working replays, a way to properly watch games from the client, and some half decent balance without stupid bloat gimmicks like facets.you know, stuff that actually fucking matters for anyone playing.An updated feature to bring new players would be okay too, because the game is fucking dead
>>499908213and you making sweeping commentary on a game you admitting dont even play
do we like them?
>>499908959They're so retarded looking it loops around to being somewhat endearing
>>499907938valve has released many games since tf2 came out
Oh what the fuck they reset the timer
>>499908770the game does need updates for existing features that are brokenthey have made a lot of revisions to the new player experience including a community made versionnone of these really attracted new players and its easy to say something different can be done without any solutions provided
>>499889250>>499889525Built for BBC btw
>>499905084>uncle daneno thanks, I remember that name.
>>499909216yeah what did valve do for tf2 players with artifact came out? surely they were mad then that valve paid attention to a game that wasnt theirs
>>499908770I just wished dota died before the facets and innates patch so ability draft would still be fun.
>>499910283Whether you are thankful or not, he and the TF2 community have already unwittingly done a lot to safeguard Dota.I can easily see Valve fully killing Dota if Deadlock succeeded. I didn't hold that view prior to TI 2024, picrelated, 2024 midas bugs and 2024 broken servers.
>>499910384Innates are okay, it even brought back some old dota abilities.but facets are a fucking meme and most of the time is just "Midly decent one" vs "the one that is a complete meme"
>>499911040>doomshitting
>>499911040Let me tell you, that midas bug killed a lot of people's drive.
what if Blizzard killed everyone at Valve headquarters and took back Dota and made it great again
>>499911229there have been exploitable bugs in the pastwe survived
League would benefit from having a hero with kunkka w.
>>499911229Yes. The fact that they happened so close to TI (people, including me, still thought it meant something for Valve back then) and taken so long to fix was very telling.
>>499911454how long did it take? 6 months?
>>499911450yone
>>499911128I am not a doomposter. I think Dota's future health is an approximate inverse of this graph>>499904189
>>499911592you are shitting all over deadlock
>>499911590No, I want to do that to the enemies.
>>499911662?I'm not doomposting about Dota. I'm saying it's in great danger, but also believe that danger is subsiding.
>>499911592>inverseso infinite growth after a dip?
>Replaysbugged most of the time, lack of controls and graphical glitches.>live watchinghas major delays, audio sounds like shit and doesn't work half the time, you are better off watching from a stream.>Dota plus dumb shit that doesn't even get updated anymore, you can barely level your hero anymore since most quest didn't get updated to fit hero reworks or straight up don't work.>PerformanceGame runs like ass even on good PCs despite offering Vulkan, which itself has random graphic glitches, sometimes major ones.>MatchmakingFeels worse than before even on normal matches, MMR is definitely inflated on ranked. This is definitely subjective tho. but it feels worse. I've heard nothing but complaints about immoral draft.Am I missing something else?
Lina should have this animation
>>499911821you are the only one making the distinction doomshitter
>>499911871>even textured pantiessoul. they didn't have to.
>>499911841there are quite a few bugs and graphical issues that have plague the game foreverlike mk ult and shit with spec/brood skins
>>499911683the players will piss and shit themselves from toxic champ design
>>499912094Exactly.
THE GAME WILL SURELY DIE THIS TIME
>>499912074Oh shit, I forgot the MK scepter being visible through the fog. Pretty sure that shit is not intended.
>>499912056>muh pantsucoomers do not have soul, just for the fact they change instantly for the new thing to fap to
>>499911839Yes, but I was only talking about the inverse of its current trajectory. I'm not expecting anything huge growth per se, just expect more resources to come Dota's way as Deadlock dissappears.
immortal players complained about matchmaking before the draft was introducedimpossible to keep a small group of players happy
>>499912381>any huge growth
Dota skins are kino because I don't notice them.
Nattea SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>499912360yes because original blizzard weren't coomers right?thats why night elves have leotards and the human girls/elf rangers/human peasant girls has massive titties with huge cleavage.Pic related is Ranger art for Diablo 1. which closely resembles Night elf girls.
>>499912661i don't get your point, Blizzard does not have soul besides their soundtracks
>>499912661>tfw no Villager (Female) heroI think she was a shopkeeper maybe
>>499871928>why does everyone like Shadow Fiend so much?the purpose of a carry is to slap jungle creeps until they can slap towersshadow fiend has a great lane, slaps jungle creeps really quickly until he hits level 15, then slaps towers harder than any other carry with his -7 armor aura that affects buildings and spikes up to -15 after he wins a teamfight
>>499913010You are a dummy if you think Early Blizzard wasn't peak. >Diablo 1>WC2/3>StarcraftAll masterpieces.
>>499913085You are talking about Sena The Accessorizer, and she was the High Elf peasant lady model. same one but blonde and slightly different clothing.
Turbo version of ranked when?
>>499913393early blizzard doesnt exist anymore
falcon v tundra is in the draft
>>499913896Who said It did.
Why pick beastmaster over so many other offlane heroes that have more impact? Beastmaster only has a single target ult late game
>>499914306bb and sk were banned
>>499913803>Ranked games that end after the laning stage, the most important stage of the game>You are given mmr based only on how good you are and not on how well your entire team performs>Ranked games that only last for about 10 minutesHoly shit. Valve do this.
>>499914306probably because it made them win the 2nd game vs bb so they overrate it
>>499915353the game is defense of the ancientsnot pick a lane dominator and outclick some fool
lol poor casters forced to shill the channel all the time, what's the point, I'm already watching it
>>499911871based panty texture artist
>>499916412watch harder noob
>>499916893Ok
>every final ridden with lagsjust give us an option to disable the fucking cosmetics already
why would certain hero cosmetics cause server lag?
>>499917616pclets think everyone has bad pcs
>>499916084PaLDaosf is kino thoughbeit
>>499917616coding issue
atf has the crit chance creep instead of anything to help secure that kill
now that deadflop is dead, will the devs come back to fix dota?
>>499917127also remember to make sock accounts to follow with
>>499918779he has it for the 30% dmg aura
New hero concept: The pimpQ, enslave: Point and click ability which is only usable on female heroes. Turns them into prostitutes who stun allied heroes and steal gold.W, pimp slap: Deals 300% extra damage against prostitutes.E, Drive: League dashR By: Pulls out an uzi and caps some fools.
>>499919104I don't have any pictures of Marci's socks, sorry
pros really oughta stop copying me
>best player in the world is an ex-dotard
Makes sense since we're all autistic
>pick hoodwink>loseJust like my pubs!
>shittalk when ahead>complete silence when behindi'd respect more if they kept shittalking all the time
Sex with nattea.
>gyroshit loses>earthshit loseswell, well... what did they expect?
turns out 33 was the real tea eye wiener
RAPIER THROW INC
RAPIRA
>>499920130
>>499920601>Morphling getting crushed in pro gamesFuck this, means he's getting another buff. Just remove this hero already
>>499920601>my boy clockwerk at the topit's where he deserves to be
what if the cosmetics changed when the hero equips certain items like Ember getting rapier
>>499920601>hoodwink going to overtake enchIt's not fair deerbros
>>499920703if you count bans and picks there's some heroes ahead
Dota doesnt need more heroes. If anything, dota should remove heroes with a bloated skill set
>>499920703he's one of my favorite heroeshis kit is so fun
>>499919371please please get her dressed again
>>499921548Spoilsport
my god slavs are such an ugly people
BBD is mega cringe but it's kinda funny becasue of it
>>499920601I'm ready for another round of nerfs
>>499920601waterbros....i don't.....i.....
>>499922059thats much better, poor girl needs love and respect
>>499924416That's what Mirana is for
>>499922612Are you looking at Malrine and Lorenof? All nations have people who aren't that attractive. You can check Dyrachyo, Kataomi, Cloud, Rue and Chira_junior for other examples.
>>499906060stupid mario bros?as in richalvarez?jfc i havent heard that name in so fucking long
wtf was that lol
coming back after 3 years hiatus who are the good guys in this match?
>>499925016space created
>>499925034tundra
>>499924650aaa she looks wonderful in black
>Current meta only has 3 viable pos 1sGrim
>>499925526>SF>Luna>Dusa>Alch>Morph >Ursa
clockbros...
>>499925672Alch is shit late game, Morph is too complex for the average dotard and Ursa is an auto loss
>>499925672bbgyromknp
MAKE INVOKER GREAT AGAIN
this faggot malrone only talks shit when his team is winning
>>499925863BB is a flex and few play him as pos1, gyro has low wr, mk is a mid hero and NP is a meme that Micke chose and he loss to Chink doto
>>499926053gyro has 73% wr at bbdthe hero is totally viable
>>499925973Doesnt he talk shit with the enemy team muted?
>>499913393>sure>warhammer fantasy>warhammer 40k
>>499926178Okay I will be the bigger man and concede on gyro, it's a 4 pos1 meta
>>499924808Yep, and yep.
>>499926342tyfyc
>>499926251i believe skitter does
>Finally reached 6k MMR>No number as of yetShould I keep going and start playing Immortal que or just forsake this game? I have heard terrible things of how people conduct themselves here but I kinda want to get my numbered MMR. Also whats the MMR needed for numbers in US server?
>>499925672tadrowwr
Feels like it's been years since AM was meta
>>499926591wow thats pathetic as fuck
>>499927059Drow is only chosen when all the others are banned, only SA and Asia picks TA and no one is picking WR
3 2 2
prepare for falcons delaying until they got 5 agha blessings
Crowd has an obvious favourite
>>499928119everyone hates falcucks and ammar
>>499928119it's easy to root against falclowns
>>499927080support cabal will never allow it
classic shitter
can you not attack people standing inside mars wall?
already better series than TI GF
>>499929205ranged niggas cant
The day has not been good for him
>giving an Israeli a gunUmm, that's a bit problematic
>>499929347drows dumb multishot penetrates the walls
>>499930804it's only right clicks
Every fucking game, she's not even that good
>>499932125maybe if she was a good deer
>>49993212550% winratealmost banned every game
>>499932275She is a good deer, hell maybe even the best
feels like storm will own this game
>le always lose dragongo next
>pugna pickpack it up, falcon's already won
is alchemist balanced?
>>499933524uhhh
Why didn't Valve add the gambler?
>>499935356Ogre already the luck based hero
33 put explosives in ammar's mouse
>>499935585There needs to be 9 more gambling heroes.
>straight nullifierthis sounds really badmatchfixing
>>499932845APOLOGIZE
>>499932845>>499933524>>499935846DOGEZA NOW GAYBOIS
>>499937173>>499937398viper still sucks
dead gamedishonest patch
i'd kill myself if i looked like thisnot even joking
This is why Gyro is shit he can only win if he wins lane he's shit at farming because he needs aghs whereas Luna can farm without items and so can SF and Medusa
>>499937568Now league? Alive AND honest.
>>499937812hello, my face is a silicone mask thats falling off, please be respectful of my disability
guys...
>>499938153Quinn got to fuck that...Imagine getting a girlfriend who's virginity Quinn took...
>>499938791i guarantee she fucked at least 10 guys before quinn
>>499938791She didn't fuck Quinn he's just the beta guy friend she's dating Cr1t
>>499937812Me too?
lorenof has stepped up so much from his plays in aurora. wtf did tundra juice him up with?
How do you go from this...
Brood against Doom? I don't know about that
>>499938791life is literally unfairmoney really is everything
...to this?
>>499939450why do males wall so hard
>>499939187>>499939450that's literally the same facehe's just washed his hair and shaved in the first pic
>>499939710Male Slavs are well known to be ugly and their women are known to age into grandmas in their 40s
>>499939710I started balding pretty young, but I'm tall, thin and well trained. I've got even more buff after shaving my head (done that pretty quickly) and let my beard grow out even more. Got more attention from women afterwards than before.
lol
dragon knight what the fuck
>>499940207>I started balding pretty young, but I'm tall, thin and well trained. I've got even more buff after shaving my head (done that pretty quickly) and let my beard grow out even more. Got more attention from women afterwards than before.
>>499940383I shaved everything off pretty quickly, didn't you read the post?
>>499940351He was meta before TI and his passive giving him a lot of armour will be good against SF
>>499940214blessed spectator
>>499940474>I shaved everything off pretty quickly, didn't you read the post?
>>49993945021 years old btw
>>499940623This doesn't work on a guy who regularly gets romantic signs from attractive women and has a gf.
>>499940873>regularly gets romantic signs from attractive womenlol wake up buddy you're day dreaming
Hey all demon lords are meta right now
Who do you think you are fooling? You are in a video game thread on a basket weaving forum boasting about getting women?
>>499941242rip blunderlords
>>499941396I'm a backpacker and a "Dota-only" gamer.
This set is retarded, looks like his head has been squished
>>499941813how many men have "packed your back"?
>>4999420140. I'm a heterosexual.
techies?
>demoralizers in my /d2g/Cant you retards just stick to a higher traffic thread or board? You barely get yous or people seeing that here, there's no point
>SFs will buy MoM but won't skill Feast of SoulsIs there a worse ability in the game
>>499942098on a field somewhere in kherson
>Brood against DoomI thought Ashkenazi Jews were high IQ
Why are they all sitting like children on the chairs? Just put your feet on the ground
>>499943515comfy
how does this work on universal?
who's the derpy voice saying "got it" all the time in game, couriers?
>>499944217
>>499944217>+7 to allokay not that good
alttuskarr
>>499944235https://liquipedia.net/commons/images/2/26/Vo_tusk_tusk_move_17.mp3That's just Tusk picking up bounty runes I assume
>game 5finally, a good finals
the jew sucks
>Press ult>Entire enemy team is silenced and takes damage over time>If an enemy wasn't somehow silenced a teammate going within range of him will silence and dot himWhat a skillful hero
kino gank on doom
>>499944812Doom is a counter to Brood not only does Doom's ult fuck Brood's Q but Doom's W kills the spiderlings and will heal Doom if he has shard then you have DK's Q which also kills the spiderlings
how the fuck is Magnetize balanced?
>>499945261Nobody knows how it works
>>499945261dunno. seems like earth spirit has top hero dmg every game.
>>499945261It also pierces immunity with the level 25 talent Tundra should've banned it
just put roshan in mid again holy shit
See the range on magnetise then, Tusk and Brood were far apart and still it got both of them
>>499945261I've played since 2012 and I still dont know how it works
>>499945551It's kinda funny that Radiant/Dire winrate was most balanced 12 years ago when Rosh was next to Dire T1
anyone else watching grubby's hairline evaporate in real time?
Pretty kino final game desu
>>499945781post pic
>p4 gets picked off>take t2 tower anyway>take aegis>lose t3 tower anywaydotards explain
Told you DKs innate was good against SF he has too much armour
sf doesnt attack anything. he just chases people.
>>499946145ok ok you were right
>>499946365Tundra can't lock Falcon's down especially when ES just rolls in then ults which forces them to bkb or retreat
>>499946549he can swap targets
holy fuck four silence masks
7 heroes???
>>499946634Doom has over 30 armour as does DK and that's without a solar crest on them then you have Hoodwink with scurry evasion which is why CM was the only one dying
>>499946549Ofc they cant lock shit down with a fucking muerta, sf and brood. The only lockdown they have is a fragile storm and a tusk snowball lmaoooo
Come on tundra, next game you gotta be able to kill some heroes and win the series. also nerf earth spirit, magnetize is OP
>>499946764It was a complete outdraft 33 going Brood into Doom was retarded and then Skiter picking DK which kills the spiderlings and counters SFs passive and Malrine on ES just dictated the fight
>>499947357Yes I've fallen for a squirrel now show beans
if armor is so prevalent in the game, why hasn't valve buff natural order from ET?
>>499947514He is not a beanliever apparently
>team with the jew in it takes the lead>middle eastern team fights back>comes up to a final standholy shit guys let's see the comms this last game
>>499947357what artist
>>499947952Based on-model chad
>>499947952I know he's here I DEMAND beans
>>499948332The rather unfortunately named Hoodwink Huffer, he let the mask slip and revealed he posts here though I had my suspicions, not that I care for squirrels of course
>Banning CM over ESMalrine mid diff wins them the game
>le always lose dragon fuck off
>>499950141he won his game earlier
Ursa gg 3-2 Falcons
Noob here, is offlane Engima common? I've only seen it ages ago as support
I believe in Ench
>the spirit of the first bear burns immortal in meWhat do?
>>499950720This is Enigma's main role.https://dota2protracker.com/hero/enigmaThis website can answer a very wide array of questions you may have.
someone open supernatural s4e2 at 19:23 (it's on prime for me)is this sound from dota 2?
so heroic best team in the world?
>>499947357>>499947952>>499949262More
>>499951290New Secret line up will be
This game is over
>Nyx>UrsaGame was over from the draft
uhh over bros?
>>499951841>>499951685>>499951684for who?
>wow he already got diffusal?>oh he has literally nothing else
is that a dotard at the venue?
another final, another loss for falcons? not looking too hot right now
>ursa viper engima winningSoul
>alch STILL not even 1k ahead at 17 minutes
>>499952352I'm not feeling enigma into pango
is usra just good AM?
>two people dead to tormentorjust like my herald games
>>499953032magina isn't even a hero
>dying to tormentor
>>499953032am is only good as a counterpick vs medusa and maybe storm. but even then he's not that good.
Level 20 at 23 minutes
another choke ammar?
>ursathinkgen of mason
falcons loses everyone winskinda shame a fucking jew is gonna become a goat like puppey
>>499953881that's /ourkjew/
falcons will winursa sucks
tundra gotta win some teamfights, i'm not sure if you win a game if all you do is run around ganking supports
okay it's over good night
its ursover
lollmao
BLUNDRA
crit is a fraudhe literally plays one hero
33 is so bad
How does enigma keep disappearing in one second?
why is thecoon throwing?
33 is a matchfixing kike
doesn't feel like enigma has any impact, especially compared to other heroes that 33 likes to play
The guy who's entire gimmick is making clones himself, he's just a pub stomper right?
>>499956006Depends on the patch and mmr
>>499956161but all you have to do is buy mjolnir
sex with futa hoodwink
let's pretend this is the TI finals
lvl 25 np is an instawin
lvl 25 treants are funny as fuck
>>499956694post ti finals are nearly always better than ti finals
theorycraft game changer t5s for this game
tundra pleease
>enigma
we're gonna have big fight into buyback into gg in 3 minutes right
pirate hat ench there we go
>pick zero utility>lose
Where is Chen's t5 neutral?
Man imagine picking three immobile cores in 2024
pango is such a dumb campo santo hero
33 lostwhat are the comms
quick post your setups
damn. those black holes didn't do anything, no follow up damagenext time tundra, i wanna believe
>>499958715Israhell is finished!
muslims 1 - 0 jews
33 was literally a net negativehe needs to be killed
>>499958823>Criticize 33 for always black hole'ing the pango>The one time he black holes others, pango cancels it with a bash and then goes on to 1v1 the viper into the ground
>>499959092It's like one hero has one spell with a two minutes cd and the other has a bloated crime against balanceGet brooled on relic
rtz??
I think I may be sexually attracted to Sneyking
5 extremely uncharasmatic players that don't have any team bonding
i think every ultimate with a cd under 90s should have its cd doubled
>>499921176why wasnt abaddon picked once even though hes one of the best supps even on high mmr
>>499960760Has one spell Melee Zero statsSo you just walk around him and kill his team for free
>>499960760Pub hero like omnikight and oracle
it's over
See you in 19 hours for the dreamleague rematch between falcon and tundra
>>499963357its been 7 years and he still has the same 4 black songs playing
>>499963357everyonegive mason your energy
mason got ganked, died, bought back, sold all his items, and quit the stream
everyonegive mason your energy
>>499965550classic
>>499965550this has been debunked
i'm depressed
>>499966232SIEG HEIL!SIEG HEIL!SIEG HEIL!MEIN FÜHRER
Came back and now i literally can NEVER play pudge? why is this allowed to have a character permanently banned because it's popular
>>499889250I have a friend who insist that marci is a latin name and should be pronounced markie (marky?)it really pisses me off
>>499981551is he retarded by chance
>>499981551Marci does use latin characters, though.
>>499984503MapcиBehold the slavic Marci
who should i pick that can't be countered mid and isn't razor?t. never gets last pick
>>499990142reject your dignity and pick arc
>>499990142Viper, puck
>>499948979
oh look we have a smartass here
>>499993004Don't think so high of yourself man.
bros, is there any reason not to activate this? Can coins be spent on anything else?
>>499993656request was very simple and straightforward, deliver the fucking beans or i will kill your family
Act 4.......
>>499950141just lost a game with viper feeding
>>499889337why is Lina so much hotter than the other heroes?
>>499996210paizuri
>>499994086you can use them as a discount for the 15 dollar expansion to Act 1, 2, or 3, or even wait until Act 4 and use it as a discount for whatever they release with Act 4, or you can use it to buy the candyshop rerolls and mmr double down tokenschances are, if you do all of Act 4 when it comes out, you'll get 10 more of those coins for another discount
>>499981551that's correct though
they're going to release a halloween update after halloween is over arent they
What does oracles q purge? Disarms, even my w disarm? Burn? Venos poison? Venoms poison? Ogera w burn? Nullifier? Husakes burns? Clinks burn? Bristlwback goo? Diffusal slow? Stuns? All of the above?
>>500000000
>>500005719it's a basic dispel, iircas opposed to Abadon's W which is a strong dispelso like if someone is stunned from Beastmaster's Primal Roar, then Oracle's Q isn't going to dispel the stun, but Abadon's W would dispel it, since it's a strong dispelthere are some things that can only be dispelled with basic dispels, some things that can only be dispelled with strong dispels, and iirc some things can't be dispelled at allbest advice i can give is just look at the wiki and mess around in demo mode and read all the descriptions, they say on abilities whether things can be dispelled or not by basic or strong dispels
>>500005719Dispel is one of the most complicated mechanics in the game due to exceptions. However what is easy to learn is that Oracle's dispel is a standard one (not strong) and hence can't remove stuns. There are only a handful of strong dispels in the game.For the complicated part, here's an example: nothing in the game can remove heaven's halberd disarm, but all dispels can remove orchid silence (even though they are both item based debuffs).Check out dispel notes below the ability here:https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Heaven%27s_Halberdhttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Orchid_MalevolenceOne says only "dispelled by death" and the other "dispelled by any".
>>500006423>if someone is stunned from Beastmaster's Primal Roar, then Oracle's Q isn't going to dispel the stun, but Abadon's W would dispel it, since it's a strong dispelSince it's Oracle we're talking about here, it's also worth mentioning that his ult also dispels and is actually a strong one. So Oracle can save someone from a roar as well.
>>499901394She scales like ass and barely does anything past 30 minutes
When are they removing innates, facets, shards, aghanims scepter upgrades for all heroes, lvl 25 talents and neutral items?It's all unnecessary stat and spell bloat
>>500010910get good
>>500010442yeah that's true
>>500010910No one is forcing you to play it. By the way, Dota's average skill level is growing every year and those who left have 0 viable arguments about Dota becoming "casualized" (the way many people who left their respective games say) and they usually get crushed on their several years old mmr level nowadays.This has already been visible in 2019.
>>500010910>It's all unnecessary stat and spell bloatpowercreep keeps the game fun, it is entirely necessary
remember time zonelmao
I'm trying to learn hero match ups, counters and synergies better. My position 1 hero pool is currently>Spectre>Anti-Mage>Naga siren.What heroes do I not gave an answer for with my hero pool? What supports synergies well with my heroes? Is there any team role my hero pool is lacking? And if I were to pick up another main, what should I look for?
>>500011739Void in general has a low winrate nowadays.
>>499979183It's not banned because it's popular. It's banned because no one wants someone dojng nothing but sitting in the bushes missing hooks on their team.
>>500011531I think you'd enjoy diablo 3 a lot
>>500011850>What heroes do I not gave an answer for with my hero pool?All of your carries are illusion users. This makes them pretty flexible, but a Lion who knows what he's doing can quickly clear them out with shard mana drain.>Is there any team role my hero pool is lackingAll of your picks are greedy hard carries. You could look into having at least one early semi-carry, like Monkey King, Razor or Dragon Knight.
>>500012136>strawman argument
>>500011850You've got Anti-mage, which is like a late game split pusher heroyou've got Naga Siren which is an illusion split push heroyou've got Spectre which is a late game ganking sort of heroi don't think you really have anything that is a strong laner or mid game hero. like Spectre is kind of a weak laner and she doesn't exactly dominate the mid game, she kind of just ults in and steals kills then goes back to farming. Antimage just kinda focuses on getting a couple items and then dominating the late gamesome strong laner carries that dominate the mid game would be like Shadow Fiend, Chaos Knight, Razor, Clinkzlike what this guy said: >>500012157basically heroes that win lane, farm 1 item and fight with the team, like with Clinkz for example, you win lane, farm the Desolator, then run around invis with your team and kill enemies and melt towersespecially now is important to have something like that to be good with because i think the meta right now is winning lane, then brooling with the team, but desu i think that doesn't matter if youre below Immortal rank or around there
>>500012157>All of your picks are greedy hard carriesThat's what I had been thinking, but I've had trouble identifying which carries aren't as greedy, and then find one I actually like.
>>500012661Also, How would I know I need to pick a carry that can win lane and fight early? Like what kind of line up (enemy heroes or team mate heroes) should I identify and think "ok this isn't an Am/spectre/Naga game"?
>>500012898This is extremely reliant on game sense. But it general, if you see that your team went for a "wacky" pick (no durable hero on the offlane, questionable mid, non support focused supports, etc) it may be better to pick an earlier carry, since you simply might not make it to late game with an unorthodox team.
>>500013127To add: if you look at the pick and that "all is lost" you may want to have a backup super tempo carry to try and salvage the pick. Look into Brood 1 as an example.https://dota2protracker.com/hero/broodmother
>>500012898if you got last pick and you think your teammates can make space enough for you against the enemy draft, then pick AM. if you got last pick and you think your teammates will be really active in the mid game and ganking a lot, i'd say it probably is a good Spectre game, basically any game where it looks like you'd be able to just ult in and finish off some killsI'm not sure about Naga desu, idk that hero too well, i just know she can leave lane early if she wants and she can split push pretty wellimo, if you can't get last pick, then you should pick an early/mid game hero that wins lane. i think in general, it's never a bad choice to pick an early/mid game lane dominator
>>500013598>think that
it is never a good time to draft am in 7.37d dota
So about that "Crownfall" "Act IV" thing....? Is that... coming soon?
>>500013908nov1 according to the leak
>>500013642>>500013598>>500013127Ok thanks for the feed back, I'll start looking at early/mid game carries to pick up. Also, should I pick up a ranged carry? I've tried a bit of Luna.
>>500014205check out this BSJ coaching video, i always thought he explains hero pools and drafting pretty well in this videohttps://youtu.be/1sIKfpaVZGM?si=B9ONQl8G2Mf5-W3Q&t=527
>>500014205Of course. Dota doesn't have a superiority of either melee or ranged carries, it all depends on the meta.Since AM, Spectre and Naga are all melee, you can try to balance them out with pure range too, such as Drow, Sniper and Weaver. The first two are positioning based turrets, while the latter is an unusually agile position 1.
>>500014343Thanks I'll watch that video. BSJ has some great info in his coaching sessions, but there's no way to know which sessions have info on which aspects of the game.>>500014375Yeah for a ranged hero I was thinking drow or even a right clicking invoker (since he can also brawl during the early/mid game). Lunas great but she really don't feel "ranged".
>>500015325One of the keys to playing Drow is NEVER forgetting to escape with hurricane pike; either via a dual push of both you and the enemy or simple force staff-like repositioning.
>>500014205yeah you want at least 1 ranged carryi think draft is really important though if you pick a squishy ranged hero like Drow or Sniper or something, like you need your other cores to be like tanky strength melee heroes a lot of the timeMedusa, Drow, and Sniper are like strong laners, but Medusa wants like a Manta, Butterfly, and one more item before she just wins the game, whereas Drow mainly just wants like a Dragon Lance and a Yasha or something before joining fights. they all have different timings i think but usually they're strong at laning and can scale pretty decently
>TEN fucking percent spell amp>at level 10>on a hero with magic damage on EVERY spellwhat the FUCK were they thinking
>>500015478Remembering hurricane pike and playing around it will be something I'll have to get used to.>>500015502>like you need your other cores to be like tanky strength melee heroes a lot of the timeYeah, making sure my hero synergies well with the pos 2 and 3 is the one part of drafting I've got down so far.
>>500015903that the hero was unpickable with only 8
>>500015903What hero
>>500017151earth spirit
>>499919371>I don't have any pictures of Marci's socks, sorrythat's very weird of you, here i fixed that for ya
>>499888664
>>500018673
>>500019020???????
>>500018673This is a result of Valve's officially announced sabotage of TI. It's an extremely unpopular measure in the community and it has already created many fervid Valve haters.
>>5000201682 copes in a row damn son
>>500020202This is a pure fact with 0 subjective opinion. Look up the battle pass of 2022.
>>500020168>It's an extremely unpopular measure in the communityyet there are more playing
>>500020825If a neighborhood animal torturer kills your beloved cat, you don't automatically move out of the country.
>>500020961dota isnt a cat its a video game
>>500021051Dota is a country in this case; TI is the cat and Valve is the animal torturer.
>>500021148if a neighbor killed my cat, im living in the wrong neighborhood and would movelike if you didnt care for how valve was treating dota, you could move on to another video game
>>500020168The pros are not the community
>Trying to shallow grave your teammates against invisible burst heroes >Trying to shallow grave your teammates against a team of stunners/silencers >Saving yourself with shallow grave and watching your teammates die
>>500021275>TI is not necessaryRidiculous. Absolutely no one ever entertained thoughts like this before Valve started destroying it.
ti was a marketing tactic to get dota2 out to the massesits done its job while remaining the most prestigious tournament at the pro level and when it doesnt have the largest prize pool of the year
Peaked at 5.8k in 2016, quit in 2017 and started playing again last month and calibrated at 3k. What happened to this game? I am getting solo killed by supports late game as pos 1. Does my husbando still play?
>>500021631>>500021524>>500021224
umm TI was never good
>>500021679this post doesnt address my point that ti is necessary and hasnt gone anywhere
>>500021275there is no community beyond esl ragers
>>500021679Correction:>>500021631>>500021524>>500020961Didn't mean to quote the guy who said "if you don't like the murder of TI - leave"
>>500021832your dumb analogy doesnt work since neither ti or dota is deadand you must force this dumb strawman argument instead addressing my points directlymore arguments in bad faith
>>500021764>eslNeither North Americans nor the Brits ever played Dota in any significant capacity. Not even in 2016.
What killed dota?
>>500022024autism
>>500021524I don't give a shit about the pricepool, why would I? Why would anyone that's not a pro?
>>500022038worse yet, why should it be expected of the community to line the pockets of the pros
>>500022192This was always the sentiment, the shill pretends that people loved giving money to the pros showing that he's clearly not part of the community.
>>500021896You're making up excuses for Valve and saying what they're doing isn't as destructive as it looks. Probably the same guy as yesterday.>>500022038>TI is not necessary #2 (we don't need true sight, we don't need stage games instead of hotel room games, we don't need advertisement for TI, we don't need production and shows)>Recently, The International 2024, the Dota 2 world championship organized by Valve, kicked off in Copenhagen. This year, the event has garnered even less attention than before due to minimal promotional activities. The schedule and team matchups were revealed just a few days before the tournament started, leading to complaints from both players and broadcasting staff. Consequently, The International 2024 is experiencing record lows in prize pool growth, and early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interest.https://escharts.com/news/international-2024-worst-starts
>>500021953false but ok cool
>>500022353there were complaints for ti10that shit always happens
>valve taking away my battlepass was like them killing my beloved cat!who really thinks this way?
>>500022345>This was always the sentimentNever has the community wanted the battle pass to dissappear. It only complained about its price and/or content. Never has the community wanted TI to disappear either.>>500022358Look up regional matches played and see how tiny NA's share is. Separating the Brits is trickier, but their extremely low participation is indirectly demonstrated by there being almost no British pros.
>>500022727>Never has the community wanted the battle pass to dissappear.anyone who cares about their consumer experience didthe battle pass was a predatory business model
>>500022797>You're making up excuses for Valve and saying what they're doing isn't as destructive as it looks. Probably the same guy as yesterday.
>>500022024icefrog
>>500022853>the truth is an excusepathetic
>>500022727>people want battlepass skins = people care about giving money to prosHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAWhat was the prizepool in the last two TIs when the battlepass had no skins?
>>500023058careful now, claiming that hats are the reason people cared about the battle pass is an excuse!
>someone actually makes excuses for this: Recently, The International 2024, the Dota 2 world championship organized by Valve, kicked off in Copenhagen. This year, the event has garnered even less attention than before due to minimal promotional activities. The schedule and team matchups were revealed just a few days before the tournament started, leading to complaints from both players and broadcasting staff. Consequently, The International 2024 is experiencing record lows in prize pool growth, and early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interest.Ok, there probably are genuine Valve employees itt.>>500022932There's a dozen alternatives to the battle pass model which don't involve "killing the cat". Valve hasn't used any of them and this will not go unnoticed by the community.>>500022727>>500022727>>500022727Are non-esl's going to comment on this or not? You NEVER played Dota in any significant capacity and were ALWAYS a very tiny minority.
>>500023335>There's a dozen alternatives to the battle pass model which don't involve "killing the cat". Valve hasn't used any of them and this will not go unnoticed by the community.that is completely false though, we had the compendium to fund the prizepool of ti2024 and the community didnt give a fuck
>>500023401>comparing 2023 and 2024 compendiums to the contents of the battle pass>Ok, there probably are genuine Valve employees itt.
>please daddy gaben let me spend $500 on hats againwho really thinks this way?
>>500023461>contents of the battle passyou mean the hats, yes the only thing the community cared aboutyou again are forced to discredit my character in an attempt to ignore my argumentsanother bad faith tactic
>>500023572>you mean the hats, yes the only thing the community cared about>Recently, The International 2024, the Dota 2 world championship organized by Valve, kicked off in Copenhagen. This year, the event has garnered even less attention than before due to minimal promotional activities. The schedule and team matchups were revealed just a few days before the tournament started, leading to complaints from both players and broadcasting staff. Consequently, The International 2024 is experiencing record lows in prize pool growth, and early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interest.>>500022727>>500022727>>500022727Ok, no comments provided.
>>500023671>>Recently, The International 2024, the Dota 2 world championship organized by Valve, kicked off in Copenhagen. This year, the event has garnered even less attention than before due to minimal promotional activities. The schedule and team matchups were revealed just a few days before the tournament started, leading to complaints from both players and broadcasting staff. Consequently, The International 2024 is experiencing record lows in prize pool growth, and early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interest.what does this have to do with the contents of the battlepass?
>>500023710>You're making up excuses for Valve and saying what they're doing isn't as destructive as it looks. Probably the same guy as yesterday.
>>500023814no argument?thank you for your concession
>>500023871I'm going to keep in mind that there do seem to be actual Valve employees in those threads. I've fully read both this and the previous one and there's a mountain of data about TI's failure that's already been presented. Valve and Valve alone is responsible for this and this will not go unnoticed.
>>500022024Power creep
>>500022727>>500022727>>500022727Last chance guys and girls. I don't have all day.
>>500024308still no argument? only a conspiracy theoryyour concession remains
>i think valve is a murderer and i live in the same house as them>no reason to leave better just complain about the conditions instead
>>500024737I'm not interested in any games other than Dota, but it's attached to Valve (who already inherited a finished and immensely popular game, not created it).
>>500024871you're insane then for living with a murderer
>>500024871>who already inherited a finished and immensely popular game, not created itthis is a falsehoodvalve created dota2many other developers tried to capture dota's gameplay during the same timeframe
>>500024932The analogy didn't involve a guy who lost his cat living in the same house as his cat's killer. He only lives in the same country. Dota is a big place.
>>500025115>The analogy didn't involve a guy who lost his cat living in the same house as his cat's killer.its the same difference thoughif dota is a country then valve is a tyrant who can do whatever he choose to you
>>500025278An animal torturer doesn't necessarily want to destroy the entire country, as gruesome as this sounds. But it does make living in a country ruled by him rather unsettling for many people.
>>500025403valve is more than a simple member of the neighborhood to dota2which again is why the analogy is poor
>im ruled by a tyrant who kills animals>dont need to move though i surely wont be the next victim of their violencewho really thinks this way?
>WAAAHHH WAAAHHH THINK ABOUT THE POOR PROS WAAAHHHHFuck off, they get what they deserve. The community only cares about skins and progression, which the battlepass provided. Now that it's separated everyone is happier except pros.
what the community wants is for valve to fix the issues plaguing this gameand maybe act4
Why doesn't dota have a zhonya's hourglass?
wtf is act 4
>>500027034 Heavy update but for dota
>>500026202>THINK ABOUT THE POOR PROS >The community only cares about skins and progression>Recently, The International 2024, the Dota 2 world championship organized by Valve, kicked off in Copenhagen. This year, the event has garnered even less attention than before due to minimal promotional activities. The schedule and team matchups were revealed just a few days before the tournament started, leading to complaints from both players and broadcasting staff. Consequently, The International 2024 is experiencing record lows in prize pool growth, and early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interest.>>>>>>>>>TI is not necessary #2 (we don't need true sight, we don't need stage games instead of hotel room games, we don't need advertisement for TI, we don't need production and shows)
I got Burnice AND Rappa
one day valve started a country and it was greatlots of people moved there despite the stipulation that you had to have a petthen valve decided that every year one pet at random would be killed unless the community paid them enough money to spare its life for their contribution the citizens received household goodsyear after year this went on, with valve receiving enough money to spare the poor pet's life and the community enjoying their household goodsthen suddenly valve decided that they had enough with the farce and changed the year eventinstead of paying to receive both the household goods and spare the pet's life valve would allow the community to contribute to two separate fundscontributions to one fund gave the household goods in exchangethe other fund spared the random pet's lifethe community happily gave their money in exchange for the household goods but not enough money to spare the pet's lifevalve then killed the petthis is where we are now in dota2you must chose whether you are alright living under valve's tyranny knowing your pet could be the next to be sacrificed or to move out of the country and start a new life else where
>>500023461>TI is NOT necessary >>500027781<<
>>500027993how does it feel knowing your pet could be next?
>>500027781Why would Valve kill my cats? This makes no sense. I don't think Steam is held up by animal sacrifice.
for me? i dont give a fuck, its just a petliving in valveland is awesome for the most partthere are problems surewhat place doesnt have them?
>>500028120My analogy pet is already dead and has been tortured to death over the span of 3 days (an analogy for 2022, 2023 and 2024). That's the point.
>>500028243>lots of people moved there despite the stipulation that you had to have a petAnon... you get exiled if you lose your pet...
>>500028364ti isnt dead thoughwhich is my point
>>500028403valve gives you a new pet or something as a reward
>>500028671But the original post didn't say that. This would mean that every year valve is taxing you for your housing and the privilege to live in Valveland.
>>500028496The warmth (pre 2022 style TI) still didn't leave the dead cat completely, but it will as time goes by (we have more and more 2 million dollar, no production, no advertisement, hotel room TI's).
>>500027357Literally the only thing about TI that was worth caring about is the battlepass, look what happened to the pricepool when the battlepass was disconnected
>>500028856sure but it would make sense for valve to let it end net neutral its not like they wants to lose members of their country or else they would be preventing you from leaving
>>500028946>(we have more and more 2 million dollar, no production, no advertisement, hotel room TI's).ti2024 was still popular with viewersmaybe not as popular as before but the competition was different and russians didnt have as a vested interest in watching like they did for ti10
>>500028962>TI is NOT necessary
>>500029406ti still exists it is necessary my hats dont need to be tied to it for ti to exist
>>500029406Yes, the battlepass is the only thing that matters.
>>500029309>ti2024 was still popular with viewersWait for the cat to cool down and start decomposing. It still looks like a cat and is even warm.
>>500029539when does the cat fully die? like 5 years 10 years?time is money
>>500029650Difficult to say. Here are some clues:Early TI 2024 was already unpopular>early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interestThe overall loss of viewership was 46%>857khttps://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-10>469khttps://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-2024-dota2
>>500029836>early broadcast metrics show a decline in viewer interestit did bounce back though for a respectable average viewers, better than ti2017>The overall loss of viewership was 46%compared to ti10, but there were two tis in betweenhow much loss in viewership can we expect for ti2025i know ill be watching it, along with most of the posters itt while enjoying my hats from next year's event
>>500029486>my hats dont need to be tied to it for ti to exist>TI is N O T necessary>an artificially colored product with TI flavor is available in its stead
>>500030324>an artificially colored product with TI flavor is available in its steadwhich is still popular with the community
>>500030051>better than ti2017You've already been clearly proven wrong with proofs here >>499898625
PSG here Don't forget me.
>>500030458>it doesnt count!that isnt proof of anything
>>500030406>Wait for the cat to cool down and start decomposing. It still looks like a cat and is even warm.>The warmth (pre 2022 style TI) still didn't leave the dead cat completely, but it will as time goes by (we have more and more 2 million dollar, no production, no advertisement, hotel room TI's).
>>500030614people like watching the cat diewe are a sadist community
>>500029309>russians didnt have as a vested interest in watching like they did for ti10What kind of argument is that? Did you not see the catastrophic collapse of the English stream too?
>>500031221russians are the largest portion of dota2's community if they had a team in the final there will be a bigger draw for their viewership>Did you not see the catastrophic collapse of the English stream too?post the numbers for us to review no i will not be your messenger boy and get them for you>Did you not see the catastrophic collapse of the English stream too
>>500031459ti10 also have a chinese team in the finals
Saving post numbers of both threads as an example of probable Valve employees defending the unthinkable and getting detailed proofs on TI's collapse.
>>500031587please keep every one of my posts in your collectionwhen your deranged theories dont come true you can remind yourself of how you lost
>>500031459>russians are the largest portion of dota2's community if they had a team in the final there will be a bigger draw for their viewershipThey don't explain the TOTAL collapse of the English stream. By the way, both finals and two semifinals of 2021 were full of Russians and Chinese and Europeans (the core of the Dota playerbase https://stratz.com/matches/graphs) still watched them far more than the European/NA teams of 2024. https://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams
>>500031708You've been proven wrong so many times in the past two threads and defended such unthinkable decisions of Valve that I simply decided you're a probable Valve employee. I only reply to raise public awareness.
>>500032558>You've been proven wrong so many times in the past two threadswhich posts are these?>defended such unthinkable decisions of Valveyou arent getting it no one cares about prizepoolyou are so dumb that you would rather believe that im a shill than realize that every here thinks the battle pass format sucked and doesnt give a shit about pros getting rich
>valve employees, who make an average of 400k usd, come to 4chan to argue with peopleYou are stupid.
>>500032983>you arent getting it no one cares about prizepool>>500032286>both finals and two semifinals of 2021 were full of Russians and Chinese and Europeans (the core of the Dota playerbase https://stratz.com/matches/graphs) still watched them far more than the European/NA teams of 2024.
>>500032286>They don't explain the TOTAL collapse of the English streampost the numbers>By the way, both finals and two semifinals of 2021 were full of Russians and Chinese and Europeans (the core of the Dota playerbase https://stratz.com/matches/graphs) still watched them far more than the European/NA teams of 2024. yes, people care more when their teams of their region do wellthat would inflate ti2021's viewership compared to ti2024if ti gets another chinese/russian final viewership could return to ti2021's height
>>500033204>yes, people care more when their teams of their region do well>that would inflate ti2021's viewership compared to ti2024>if ti gets another chinese/russian final viewership could return to ti2021's heightComplete non sequitur. I just showed you that Europeans/North Americans watched Russians/Chinese on the English stream far more than they watched their own teams in 2024 (due to a ruined TI).I'm not going to handpick the links from the one I already provided, which easily shows both 2021 and 2024. Especially so considering you're probably the poster consistently getting disproven but asking for ever more detailed posts anyway.
>>500033840you didnt post any english stream numbersna didnt have a team in the finalsquinn is one playerit was two eu teams facing off and russians may have watch but the chinese didnt careit is relevant to the discussion>Especially so considering you're probably the poster consistently getting disproven but asking for ever more detailed posts anywayall our exchanges end with you suggesting ti will die eventually and that i am a shill cause you must ignore my arguments to stay delusional
>>500034371gg also had a russian member which would appeal to russians
>>500034371>russians may have watch but the chinese didnt care Another complete non sequitur. Russians watched on their own streams, I'm exclusively talking about the English stream of TI in my last post. And it turned out that English language viewers watched Russians and Chinese far more readily than they watched their own teams in 2024. Semi-last day 2024: chock full of EU teams. >134khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/42864742248Semi-last day 2021: chock full of Russians and Chinese. >200khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/44091347389English stream only, Russians and Chinese have their own platforms. This TI was so ruined that English speaking people didn't even have a breakeven in viewership even though they were watching their own teams. Instead viewership collapsed.
>>500036664>Another complete non sequitur.not when you consider the overall average viewers>I'm exclusively talking about the English stream of TI in my last postyes you've reduced to claim that ti is only dead with english viewers>Instead viewership collapsed.the drop was less than average viewers from ti2021 to ti2024ti is alive
>>500036664>40 gorillian dollar prize pool and not even 500k english viewerssad really
>>500037020>yes you've reduced to claim that ti is only dead with english viewersThird non sequitur. If Russians aren't watching due to being out of the competition, Europeans should be watching more due to being IN IT. But they didn't, they watched Russians and Chinese far more readily in 2021, since it was a real TI and not a remnant of an event destroyed by Valve. Semi-last day 2024: chock full of EU teams.>134khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/42864742248Semi-last day 2021: chock full of Russians and Chinese.>200khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/44091347389
>Team ganks Huskar >Stun him >Silver edge to break berserker's blood >Pound on him >Somehow he is still healing through our damage (he does not have a heart) ???? >Stun wears off and he kills us I am confused enough to write this post, but not quite curious enough to watch the replay
>>500037503>Third non sequitur.its not though since russians still had a stake in the grand finals of ti2024and no one claimed that ti2024 should have more viewers than ti2021, only that the larger number can be explain in part due to the russian/chinese final
>>500037406The finals had more than that.>536khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/44104180861
>>500037717>peak viewerswe were discussing averagepeak should have been over 1 mil
>>500037660The Chinese don't show up at all in the overall viewership stats of the event. You don't know what you're talking about.
>wake up>check /d2g/>the 2 autists are still arguing
Are we still talking about how the last TI performed?
>>500038010that is fine, we can ignore the chinese audience for the purpose of this discussion
>>500038012I'm putting down the post numbers of the last two threads for the purpose of bringing them up from the archives, so the discussion is especially proof heavy at the moment. Next time, I'll be able to just refer people to old threads with post numbers and discussion chains.>>500038106You yourself mentioned it as a source of viewership. This is one of the many serious errors Valve defenders made over the last two threads, which heavily hint that they are outsiders.
how do you convince weekend players that bkb is a good item
>>500038791>You yourself mentioned it as a source of viewership.yeah due to the russian viewership>This is one of the many serious errors Valve defenders made over the last two threads, which heavily hint that they are outsiders.time to discredit my character again since you are helpless in this argumentthe english viewers didnt even drop by half with a 37 million dollar prize pool difference
meanwhile the valve hater doesnt know dyrachyo is russianwhat a grievous error made by someone unfamiliar with the game
>>500038947Why did Europeans watch Russians and Chinese more than their own teams on the English stream?Could it be that something wrong with "TI" of 2024?
>>500039331>Why did Europeans watch Russians and Chinese more than their own teams on the English stream?ti2021 had a lot of hype around it, but not so much hype that lowering the stakes meant not watching entirely
>>500039331>was wrong
>>500039441there was also team secret in the lower bracket final, giving europeans a reason to watchfull russian teams did poorly at ti2024 placing 6-8th
>>500039942an eu team in the semi last day?>Semi-last day 2021: chock full of Russians and Chinese. hmmm someone wasnt being honest when making this statement
i'm pretty sure this is the worst d2g thread ive seen
its uptwitch.tv/barnyyy
>>500040205>chock full definition >"filled to overflowing" >"my case is chock-full of notes"Not "my case is full of notes and nothing else".
>>500041021but not exclusively russian/chinese teamsenglish viewers tuned in to watch team secret then stayed for the grand finals
>>499889949Fuck hoodwink. Make Pango not useless anymore. You can dominate creeps in the game that will do more than him nowdays
>>499907619I think they'll put in that Oglodi bitch that shows up in all the comics. That's the closest you will get.
>>499921176More heroes is the only thing that drives players back in. You seem to think Valve cares about the paypigs they already have. They don't. If they did their matchmaking would be actually skill based
>>499944217press alt you idiot
>>500041407Pango is OP and should be nerfed.
>>499944407>>499944437It's a worse vambrace. One more proof whoever balances the items is retarded
>>499994086I used them to refresh the candy store until I got some good items. For example got a free month of dota plus and a lot of Immortal treasures
Wait a secDidnt oracles w used to disarm even allies? When did they remove that?Also im using ogre in demo for oracle and holy shit the reach of ogres multicast, ogre without midas really IS a grief you want dagon scythe and aghs to pwn these noobs wait you can multicast bloodthorne No one hero should have all this power..... It's between these two for basedest support now oracle, ogre is coming for your throne
>>500043393oracle w now has his old aghsits pretty busted but not broken since nullifier exists
>>500042942Didn't Vambrace get moved to tier 3 recently?
They better do something about all the fucking wasted tokens in Act III. Look at this shit. And I don't even play that much
Am i a smoothbrain and have I been buying nullifier first item on veno to boost his septic shock and my own damage and griefing myself since nullifier dispells my own veno poison The description says more damage with more status effects, so halberd for disarm, orchid for silence, sycthe for hex, oh my fucking god Ive been griefing myself would nullifer literally just dispell all of that, except for sycthe, it says strong dispells onlyWell at least I have the damage to bully ppl with
>>500038886Tell them bkb stands for big kock bar
does esl's marketing work? who buys that shit
>>500043884You are smooth...dispels are per team...
>>500044048no one, it has to be produced at a loss
based fogged with the mid dreamleague patch memories
>>500044131Frick.........
>group stage 1>group stage 2does ANYONE watch this shit?
>>500048161>good teams playingya
Valve should add pets in Dota, and make it so you have to pay monthly or you have a very small chance of having them killed.
everyone in here are dumb as fuck, I'm the only smart one here
>>500049374So true leaguebro.
>>500048918do you receive hats as part of the subscription?
>>500049512For the first few years you get hats, but afterwards they'll split it into the pet and hat subscription and you can only choose one.
>>500049654hats please
Here's your gaslighting offlane who insists that everything was actually your fault and not that he lost offlane and went jungle straight from the lane. Say something nice about him.
>>500049871you're just as good as him
>>500049512>>500049654>playing down the already proven destruction of TI, which literally no one in the community wanted or could even fathom happening before 2022
>TI ends>Two major tournaments in less than a month afterwardsThey need to change the date of TI so it's the last tournament because currently it's no different to any other tier 1 tournament
>>500051018you mean the destruction of the battle passti is still very much alive as already proven
matchmaking must think im solo carry god if it's giving me carry str morph and 50 mirana """supports""
>>500051018Players wanted it because they didn't want getting money being tied to a single tournament the old TI model was what the original dota 2 pros like S4 wanted as opposed to the CS model of multiple majors and stickers with revenue sharing split evenly amongst the participating teams
>>500051282See >>500051146TI isn't anything special now though if they made it the last major tournament of the year then that would help give it more prestige
>Coffee brewed>Basshunter ON>Dota launched>RU EN dictionary open in browserAh yeah it's time to unintentionally grief my teammates ranked games.
>>500049871Is necro bad now? He feels bad
>>500051638it was never the last major tournament of the calendar yearti is more special than these other lans since more people watch ti regardless of the prizepool difference compared to arab lanthe aegis is what the pros cherish, no one cares that quinn won 5 mil prizepoolthey care that he lost in the gf of ti
>>500049871>t. pos4 bloodseeker
>>500051361>carry str morphUhhh gigabased?
>>500049871I swear to god players with really high masteries that aren't immortals who've been playing since 2012 are always garbage.
>>500051282>already provenKek.Semi-last day 2024: chock full of EU teams.>134khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/42864742248Semi-last day 2021: chock full of Russians and Chinese.>200khttps://twitchtracker.com/dota2ti/streams/44091347389>857khttps://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-10>469khttps://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-2024-dota2-46%>aliveThe cat is still warm, but it's not alive.
>>500051710дaвaй дpyг, дaвaй пoбeдим!
>>500048918newfag
>>500052202Where r the pets?
>>500052029here we go again>Semi-last day 2021: chock full of Russians and Chinese.a eu team played its no surprise english streamers watched>The cat is still warm, but it's not alive.the cat can rot and stink, people will still watch ti
>>500052268
>>500052029>-46%no russian team in the top 6
>>500051146time is a circleif ti was in December their would be tourneys in January
>>500052291People watch Betboom Dacha Belgrade too, but there's a certain important detail to it; namely their number.
these niggas so homo
>>500051901>it was never the last major tournament of the calendar yearNever said it was you dumb nigger I said they should make it the last to give it prestige because now the prize pool isn't the largest its prestige is gone>ti is more special than these other lansThis TI is even being shit on by casters because of how shit it was, most games were 2-0 and a 3-0 final
>First match was in 2017, this would mean I was 12 when I first played dota>Dropped Dota after it >Played league insteadBros... is League really a game for children?
>>500052515Have it in November then have a Christmas break for the entirety of December
>>500052553>Never said it was you dumb nigger I said they should make it the last to give it prestige because now the prize pool isn't the largest its prestige is gonepeople dont give a shit about prizepoolthe prestige comes from the aegis
>>500052803lol
>>500052536what are the bbd viewership numbers compared to ti2024 then?
>>500052803The viewers don't give a fuck about the aegis
>>500052803>people dont give a shit about prizepool^ this is why I'm talking about the possibility of Valve employees being present in this thread. Note how many times I've shown the opposite, but they still keep posting this debunked ridiculous nonsense.
Nigma for fuck's sake
>>500052976these numbers tell a different story
>>500053124>Note how many times I've shown the oppositeall you show is that the viewership droppedbut its not relative to the difference in prizepool
>>500053230It's because the association that casuals still have that TI is the premier tournament which will fade overtime when the reality sets in, no one is reminiscing about Insania lifting the aegis at TI13 but rather the games of Tundra vs Falcons and Pure's performance
>>500053124You are the obvious outsider, you're constantly spamming irrelevant nonsense and pretending people give a shit about the prizepool. The fomo hars is the only thing that matters, as made evident by how tiny the prizepool became when they disconnected the battlepass from TILiterally no one except pros and outsiders give a shit about prizepool
>>500053495>It's because the association that casuals still have that TI is the premier tournament which will fade overtime when the reality sets inExactly.
>>500053495the ol' >it will die eventually i swear itpeople will reminisce that quinn lost ti2024 and mock him further if he never hoists the aegis
>>500053636>its gonna die eventually i swear itwake me when it finally does please
>>500053676Now that TI is outsourced and the promotion around it gone(Truesight, prize pool) yes it will be seen as no different to other major tournaments over time
>>500053854the ultimate prestige of the aegis will always hold power over other lanes regardless of the prizepoolcasuals will remain drawn in since ti is ti, nothing can replace that in the dota2 world unless valve is involved
>>500053676There's next no question whether next TI will have lower viewership within the current parameters. The question is whether it will be a large drop or a huge collapse.
>>500054058>There's next no question whether next TI will have lower viewership within the current parameters.why is that? you compared against ti10 exclusively not the year over year trend>The question is whether it will be a large drop or a huge collapseyou considered less than half to be a huge collapse, as usual your argument rests on semantics since you know that ti is still alive
>>500054195either you're delusional or you have some different definition of "alive"
>>500054343i dont consider a lan with 1.5 million viewers to be dead
>>500054195>not the year over year trend>>499898625>you considered less than half to be a huge collapse>Valve did not kill TI >Crownfall is extended >-46% is not a huge collapse 99.99% of economists, marketologists, politicians and really everyone who deals with exact numbers and high importance events will tell you this is a catastrophe.
NIGMA BALLS
>miracle
>>500054604By the way, another such collapse will bring the pseudo TI very close to Riyadh Masters.
>>500054604>Valve did not kill TIti is alive >Crownfall is extended semantics, extended or delayed we have no crownfall>-46% is not a huge collapsei was refering to these numbers>>500036664"Instead viewership collapsed."
Why is everyone watching Nigma, a completely washed up team that reached dreamleague by beating teams without working internet connections?
>>500055154People want to see Nigma throw the other choice is watching GG lose but that's just watching them get destroyed from the start so it's not as fun
>>500049871>on your team: Pathetically weak walking around on the back of teamfights and does no damage>on the enemy team: Literally unkillable tank and no one counters him with nullifyer
>>500054832so the riyadh masters has no hope of reaching ti's viewership without ti dying despite having a prizepool nearly twice as large
>>500055975TI is still seen as the premier tournament amongst casual viewers, the people who haven't played the game in 5 years and constantly type in chat why the mechanic of the spell is different from 5 years ago
>>500055975?Of course it does. 1 year is merely one day of the cat decomposing.
>>500056223>it will die eventually i swear it!ok when?
>>500056149>TI is still seen as the premier tournament amongst casual viewersit always will be the aegis is what brings the hype not prizepool unless valve comes up with something new to supersede the aegiscasuals knew that ti2024 had a shitty prizepool and watched all the same
>>500056359It already died, possible Valve employee. There's no prize pool, no production, no ceremonies, hotel games instead of main stage games and no true sight. This isn't TI, it's an artificially colored and TI flavored tournament with collapsing viewership.And again, Valve and Valve alone is responsible for this.
>>500056537You seem to think that other tournaments will replace TI for viewers you're mistaken TI numbers will just fall so they're roughly the same as other large tournaments
why's this guy posting day in & out over a game he doesn't play
>>500056723>no prize poolno one cares>no productionti10 had technical issues that caused delays, extra money for production did nothing help eliminate all issueshttps://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/ti10-delayed-start-here-is-why-the-games-did-not-start-on-time>no ceremonieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-1_s4hMrE>hotel games instead of main stage gamesthis was exclusive to ti2022 with was played in south east asian >no true sighta true loss, ripti remains alive as the viewers tell us
>kick dyracho>lose vs weaker version of liquidLMAO
>>500056789>You seem to think that other tournaments will replace TI for viewers you're mistaken TI numbers will just fall so they're roughly the same as other large tournamentsthey got a long way to go to reach that IF it does happen
>>500057224>this was exclusive to ti2022 with was played in south east asian Yet another thing that a Valve defender doesn't know. TI 2024 had merely 3 stage play days, compared to seven in 2017.
>>500057295Quinn and Ace were the ones who led the calls for him to be kicked and now Quinn and Ace are the worst performing in the team so what happens when they keep losing
>>500057656>and ace Sauce me up on that.
>>500057605>Yet another thing that a Valve defender doesn't know. what?>TI 2024 had merely 3 stage play days, compared to seven in 2017.ok, you told me you didnt want to compare viewership of ti2024 to ti2017
Chi Long Qua is back on Dota, he's spamming turbo it looks like
>>500057846Dyracho's gf on telegram before it was even made public I am not sure if the posts are still available on leddit
>>500057854Another non sequitur. I'm comparing production value, which is a crucial aspect of a real TI.
>they're still going
>>500058060>Another non sequitur.false>I'm comparing production value, which is a crucial aspect of a real TI.ah, viewership doesnt matter when it doesnt fit your narrative>I'm comparing production value, which is a crucial aspect of a real TI.by bringing up literally any meaningless thing?
>>500058273The murder of pets is a very serious discussion.
>nouns vs extreme>83 minutes already
PAY PRO PLAYERS WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING WORTH
What the fuck happened to gg holy shit
>early game powerhouseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuR5GCqcgo
>>500058928They get a salary and to keep a portion of their prize winnings while other professions like a realtor or car salesman only gets the commission from sales meanwhile e-sports is an unprofitable venture that is only propped up because of the Saudis
>>500059109Dyracho gave Ace and Quinn space when he made moves that sometimes led to him dying while Watson is the 10-year-old outdated RTZ style farm in jungle for 40 minutes while your team 4v5s and hope you can win the game after you lose a lane of rax or two or three
>>500059234Dota's pro scene can effortlessly fund itself through in-game purchases. For example, you gather 40 million from skin sales and events, put away 20 for TI, put away 5+5+5 for majors and put away 5 more for lesser events.
>>500059109carry diff
>>500059604Why would Valve do that when they can keep 100% of the money
act IV?
>>500059790EARLY 2025
>>500059753Because it already happened prior to the events discussed itt. I'm just saying how easy it is.
>>500059976It's entirely contingent on Valve willingly giving them money though which they no longer want to do so why would you pitch that a sustainable model
when I played Dota for the first time in 2012 I was taken aback at the killing spree announcer. It felt out of place compared to the everything else fantasy of Dota, though I didn't hate it, I thought it was cool. I don't use any other killing spree announcer pack now, the default one is perfect.
>>500060581same
although if they could get the flamboyant HON announcer I'd swap to that
yoooo its lacoste I love that nigga
>>500060217Your argument made it seem like esports is entirely at the mercy of outside forces, which is not true. The system I described requires an absolutely bare minimum of effort from Valve (skins from the workshop, some rare commissions and acting like a middleman between the artists and the community), but they don't do even that.
>>500061047valve isnt a charity
>>500061141*shrug*Then they will continue getting cursed by the Dota community for what they did to an established and popular event. It will get worse every year from now on.
how long until gg disbands?
X-post from /sqt/:I just built a new higher end desktop and everything runs fine except whenever I try to play dota 2. While playing or viewing a match in-game my packets lost will spike from 0% to anywhere from 3 to ~30. The entire game stutters and after about a second everything goes back to normal. This occurs fairly regularly, usually once or twice every thirty seconds. I've updated all drivers, no other video games display this kind of behavior. I'm playing on a wlan but before the new rig my laptop never had anything like this happen. I tried upgrading from Windows 10 ltsc to 11 ltsc to no avail. How would I even start to troubleshoot this? Wireshark? Is there some way to log my network activity in dota during the match to analyze later? Any ideas? Pic unrelated.
>>500061651>Then they will continue getting cursed by the Dota community for what they did to an established and popular evenmaybe but people will still watch in large numbers, ti2024 was by far the most viewed lan of 2024>It will get worse every year from now on.doomshitting
>>500061767plug in an ethernet cable to rule out any isp issues
>>500061047>Your argument made it seem like esports is entirely at the mercy of outside forces, which is not trueE-sports is an entirely unprofitable venture that is propped up by the Saudis, advertisers have left e-sports because they realised they weren't getting anything in return and they could spend a fraction of what they were on popular personalities with a large following to actually get people to buy their product, e-sports orgs when their financial situation is made public shows this(EG, Faze,etc) orgs(C9, TSM,etc) having much fewer teams than previously because they can't fund them now that advertiser money has dried up, unlike traditional sports which makes most of their money from licensing broadcasting rights is broadcast free there's no profitable economic model behind e-sports and the few remaining e-sports exist either because the publisher uses it to promote the game(League,Valorant) or because Saudi Arabia funds the prize pools like in dota(Outside TI) and CS
mercedes-benz advertising to dota2 gamers was pricelesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Z4doe1x2g
MIIIIIIIIIIIIRACLEEEEEEEE
>>500062035Also League and Valorant have their player salaries capped by Riot and their main event has a relativity small prize pool because it's also capped by Riot
>>500062035>>500062431pretty sad that esports only survives thanks to arab sportwashing
tsunami has a rat on his face
>>500062592Outside of Riot events and Valve events it's largely owned and funded by Savvy Games Group and then there's PGL which is Russian oligarchs
Ive had enough. No more russians
these niggas are slowJUST TP OUT has been a thing foreveror is it specifically the bkb & tp
>>500063427ok dont let the door hit you on the way out
>>500049871>Say something nice about him.Grats on your 20 min brown boots and sacred relic build.
>>500064282no doors, russians stole it, too
Russians give SOVL to the game because if they are the majority of the playerbase you can't get banned for being mean :)
>>500064563stop spreading propaganda, your door is still there
>>500064572Try to suggest giving em a bottle to sit. You WILL get banned :)>>500064678Heres your bottle, wanna sit?
>>500064740Why are you randomly bringing up serbian homosexuals?
>>500064841Its russian, serbs just love to slurp up after them. Dont let them know about cum river
>>500059450Why did they even pick up watson?
>>500064740no thanks, ill take a drink though
is 4chan shitting itself? images are loading super slow in threads but not direct linked
>>500065065You sound not-russian, geezAlso, its fucking shame, I rather like the game itself.puccians, tho
Happy panda band vibing hard
>>500065207Play league then or deadlock.
>>500065207does it matter if im russian or not?just play deadlock or league then
>>500065297League SUCKS. Its a very bad game. Deadlock just doesnt scratch the right itch. Theres no Void Chrono with Lich ult into it. While Void on your side, but Lich on the enemies.
>>500064992Only choice available, what other pos 1 was there? Quinn even said they wanted to get Satanic but he's in a long term contract with TS with an insane buyout
>>500065673It's just odd. They hit finals with dyrachio twice while watson is nigma tier.
Attention attenion!The best carry is playing right now
>>500066232me?
this new bird hero is going to be a homosexual
>>500066132Well if you're Quinn would you blame losing on yourself and the team as a whole and work to get better or put all the blame on the pos1
>>500066395oh good, then the schizos can blame his development on sweet baby
>>500065673Where did you see who they wanted?
>>500067260Quinn made post about how young players shouldn't get into long contracts before it was announced that Watson was the new pos1 alluding to Satanic which Gorgc confirmed on his stream
Wow this game is dead today in NA
whats with the schedules this season jesus
>>500067806He better hope that spirit keep shitting themselves then.
>>500068309they are packed as hell
>>500068309the game is dead ok
>>500068309Valve exited e-sports in 2023 and returned it to the tournaments organisers to do what they want>By existing as the only official league, the DPC has a stranglehold on the event calendar for the year and what it's filled with. Event organizers are innovating less, because that's effectively what we've been asking them to do: Instead of competing for viewers and players by producing compelling and inventive tournaments, organizers now compete for compliance with Valve’s long list of rigid requirements (team count, broadcast languages, event format, and more). >Before we introduced these constraints, the world of competitive Dota was healthier, more robust and more varied than the one we have now. Events used to be less rote and more creative, and there was more room in the calendar for them. Everything was open for exploration: event length and themed venues and team participation and even the basic assumptions of tournament design. There was a beautiful unregulated insanity to it all
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>>500069292valve still puts up 1.6 million for ti
>>500069372But they now outsource TI with no Valve oversight, TI13 was the first TI without any Valve involvement that's why there's no more truesight
