>Terry Teaser, Gameplay and Guide trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQnF07Owwd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LUExu3qU-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDPhkX2oMmQ >Year 2 Character Reveal Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVPqv7ZyfWo >The official Capcom Pro Tour 2024 website is livehttps://sf.esports.capcom.com/cpt/>S2 Balance Patchhttps://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/battle_change/20240626>High level replayshttps://replaytheater.app/?game=sf6>Street Fighter 6 Frame Datahttps://ultimateframedata.com/sf6/https://fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/calculators>SuperCombo Wikihttps://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6>Fighting Game Glossaryhttps://glossary.infil.net/>Use Fightcade to play ST, A2, A3, 3S, CVS2, etchttps://www.fightcade.com/Previous: >>500009162
>>500090275Capshit game
>>500090275Daigo lost at everything that mattered in life.
>I regret... not slurping capcock enoughSaid the capcuck on their deathbed...
>>500090376>>500090459>>500090513>>500090565Great start!!!!!
>>500090513Based as fuck
>>500090513Why should I care what these japs think?
>>500090459>Rich>Well-liked>Does what he loves for a living>Admiration of his peers>Unblemished legacyHe won, thoughever?
>>500090637Hating this game more fun than playing it.
My wife and her lickable tummy.
>>500090847Lowkey crazy how everything you said is wrong.Maybe the "well liked" part is true, but then again he is just loved by smelly stinky nerds, and even then not his real self, but the player image of him they have in their head.
>>500085523 SF4 might just be the most "I didn't play the game" game that is talked about ever. People forget that this was a lot of people's first Street Fighter. And another thing people forget even more, is that it is common in competitive games for there to be certain things that are just too unreliable to be touched. I don't actually dicksuck Clayton (haven't watched him in like a year), but he's one of the few people I've seen talk about this. And I only bring him up so that retards can't say "omg skill issue! only unskilled people would criticize this". But 1 frame links were not "normal" they were not "common", they were not what EVERYBODY did. Neither were fucking 2 frame links. SF4 wasn't some uniquely difficult high skilled fighter, I'm pretty sure compared to anime fighters and every other fighter still, it was fucking braindead. Not to mention that I ALSO heard Daigo talk about this in a past video, but it's a completely unskilled game in the respect of actual gameplay, Daigo talked about people who would just sit in the practice room and were only good because they grinded combos. But who were garbage at neutral and that's why so many SF4 pros failed at 5. He also said that SF4 wasn't actually LIKE past street fighters despite its overwhelming association with it. I genuinely despise the SF4 dick riding so much. It's such a blatantly poorly made game with very little thought put into 90% of its mechanics in so many ways but people try to pretend it was some bastion of fighting game design, and it takes on the dark souls aura of pretending that because its "hard" (or rather perceived as such) that it's good.
>>500090847>he had a good life because he farmed some money and parasocial relationship tards!By this logic is still pretty lame considering you could be an artist, writer or politician to farm way more of those.
the future of all human discourse will be done through twitter while being careful to not offend men in skirts.
Personally, I think all Street Fighters are ass. Platform Fighters are the future.
wtf the other thread isn't even at 730 posts and this one already has 16 posts? shameful i expected better of you sisters
>>500090847>Didn't find a person to share experieces/life with>Didnt bust a nut inside a woman he loved to create life and mark her forever>Does not even has a podcast, apprentice, or something to actually pass his legacy in a videotoy
>>500091054I don't think there's much wrong with sf4 as a system fighter. The reason why the game suck balls is because 10-15 chars never play one sec of neutral, throw random safe shit until they get one KD and put you in a 8-way guess vortex. And they're all S or A tier.>Neither were fucking 2 frame links2F links are pretty common, and pretty reliable.
>>500091295>>500091498>Truthposting this HARD
>>500091295>More viewers ( without viewbots )>More player retention>More longevity and grassroots scenePlatform is so much better is unreal but SF4 was pretty good as well
Episode 11 (and Mai) waiting thread
2 frame links without an buffer would be considered insanely impossible by todays standards.
Punkie is gonna be MY friend :)
>>500090275Reina for SF6 tbqhwyalbeit
>>500091032Everything I said is objectively correct, sorry about your headcanon. He's extremely well-compensated, since he was one of the first professional fighting game players. Everyone likes Daigo, both in his own community and overseas. Everyone in the Japanese FGC and overseas looks up to Daigo. There are no dark marks or issues with his legacy, like Infiltration. He loves fighting games and made many lifetime friends from playing. Daigo lives a charmed life, to be quite honest.>>500091245He didn't want to be an artist, writer, or politician, so that is largely irrelevant.>>500091498He shares his life with his good friends. Not marrying or procreating is only a failure to insecure people who think having children is the only way to live or validate yourself.
>>500092025>Calls others insecure>Literally coping about anything in life mattering more than love/family
>>500091537>2F links are pretty common, and pretty reliable.Meant they weren't that crazy demanding nor overtook basic combos
>>500092193>thinking that not having kids means you can't have love/familyYes, you are insecure.
>>500091498>>Didn't find a person to share experieces/life withthe only time this matters is during your college years when you're both just dicking around having a bunch of carefree fun and exploring sexuality. after that it doesn't matter except to become a bickering couple tied together with asshole kids. daigo did have girlfriends during his prime and won. i missed the boat and think about killing myself every day.
terry's smile makes him look like an snk titan shit is UGLY
>>500092025Daigo wont fuck your bussy bro, give up.Also you don't know his life or what he actually wanted to be. Crazyy projection hours.>d-daigo is super rich!>"even tho SF is notoriously underpaid and even real athletes sometime go bankrupt"He slurps noodle on the daily because he is scared of going poor again, if he was balling he would treat himself the best food 24/7.
>>500092287same, my life was so shit that I barely made it through my 20s intact and I didn't even have time to think about things like love. Now that I have my shit together at 30 its like the hellish intro to life is finally over and I can start controlling my character. Normies that have friends and are social and are STILL virgins are fucking retarded, they legit flubbed several chances while people like me were never even close to entertaining the idea.
>>500092269Do you own a pet you project your feelings of having a child? Or are you one of those retards who think hyperfocusing in a career/hobby will make you happy and replace the feelings of having an actual family? But then you just get old and wither alone without people by your side?
>>500091054Why does SFIV have this mythical status? Was even watching that one video of the guy talking about Street Fighter animations and he says that SFIV's are ass.Honestly I see this type of mythologizing with a lot of old games. I already have a theory on why and how this happens. It's actually just a very single proof of the fact that human beings are literal retarded hivemind bots with no actual emergent thought. But I'll get triggered if I bring it up since, hiveminds are very effective for a reason so people will just overpower any reasoning I bring up with group think validation and rationalization instead of engaging with what I'll say
restore breasts in street fighter. bring it back to it's former glory
cope for when mai has a medium breast size in dix?
>>500092287Quite the opposite. A simple life with a nice wife and kids is the biggest blessing ever.Imagine thinking casual sex ever feels the void, much less when you get older and life becomes more and more about relationships instead of achieving success.>BUT MUH STRESS THOStill better than being alone. Is the good kind of stress.
>>500092725SF4 is from like 2 generations ago, before playing online was something everyone did, before micro transactions, before a lot of shit we take for granted today. It might as well be ancient history to most gamers today, if they were even alive when it came out.someone who played SF4 since release would have to be in their early to mid 30s by now. Someone who started during ultra would be hitting 30. There were also a lot of people who just saw SF from the outside and loosely followed what was happening in sf4 but could not understand the gameplay, these people either came in juring jive or sf6 and pretend to be oldfags.
https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleeps
>>500092943I love when hookup culture failed a generation miserably, but some retards on /sfg/ who unironically look at Daigo as their dad, think they know better and wasting your years dicking around to play catch up in your 30s to die alone is the better ending in life.
>he thinks mai will have medium breastsshe won't have any.Sf6's jiggle physics suck.If they're big they'll be like manon tranny bolt ons so obviously they'll make them small as shit
>>500092460There was a Japanese article during the SF4 era that talked about Daigo making around 400k per year from sponsorship deals and media appearances. Infiltration just showed documents where he was paid 125k/yr by PG. Daigo has been sponsored for over a decade, he is obviously paid well.>Also you don't know his life or what he actually wanted to be. Crazyy projection hours.All I'm doing is making logical assumptions based on facts and things Daigo himself as said. Assuming he is miserable and failure is much, much more of a projection.>>500092658No, does any of that apply to you? You seem to be very focused on fitting people that have a different outlook into easily understood and stereotypical boxes.
>>500092943>Quite the opposite. A simple life with a nice wife and kids is the biggest blessing ever.you know damn well nobody can have this anymore and its not fighting games fault.
>>500093140A wife will make you company and take care of you.Sluts will hop to another cock once you are no longer useful.
>>500090910>>500092658IneeduChun
this dude just likes being wrong
you'll die alone and in 100 years no one will remember you unless you're some patriarch of a clan or Michael Jackson/Beatles. Capcom is literally showing you this by telling Chun Li and Ryu tale
I havent heard from sonicsol so maybe he's doing better.
>ass:)>boobs>:(
>>500093225Still is the ideal. This logic of preaching people to do the worst, because the ideal seems unlikely, is very cancer.>>500093301Theres just something cozy about living together with someone for years, I know is hard once the initial fire of the passion seems to burn, but that is exactly why is so special and important. People who just chase after the next dopamine hit are beyond fucked in life.
>>500093436Last week I saw a old couple where the wife was helping the dude who was clearly ill as fuck and could barely walk, so you wrong.
>Daigocels have to swallow a ton of blackpill to cope that their idol aint a failureLOL
>>500093643Then you leaped 100 years forward? Damn
>>500091054>I'm pretty sure compared to anime fighters and every other fighter still, it was fucking braindead.Not really, the frame data emphasis compared to anime fighters already put it in a league above in terms of research. -sign- and by extension xrd had some really tight execution shit, but as a whole? sf4 was harder to get into and be decent right off the bat. Not to mention, the game was degenerate, but still a lot less degenerate than bb or gg. Also not to mention the competition always was harder in sf.
>>500093731drunk daigo could steal your girl ez bitch ass NIGGA
Daigo won't pay the alimony
>>500093000>before micro transactionsYeah. Even worse, releasing the same again with slightly more additions and balance changes and selling it as a full game.>There were also a lot of people who just saw SF from the outside and loosely followed what was happening in sf4 but could not understand the gameplay, these people either came in juring jive or sf6 and pretend to be oldfags.So basically more eyes, and more people playing the games led to higher (and sometimes unfair standards considering that SF4 had even worse input lag than SF5 but everybody tolerated it) standards.Id say this makes sense if not for the fact that SF5 and 4 sold about the same.
capcom will never add a big breasted heroine to sf6 that doesn't look like a dude. capcom will never make another big breasted heroine and add it to street fighter from now on.
>>500093570I was the retard who wasted my 20s doing dumbshit and now I have to grind like crazy in my early 30s.Much rather have settled down with a nice girl back then and focused on my craft, so by now I would be chilling.Biggest crab advice is telling people to waste some of their prime years doing essentially glorified masturbation just to be even more lost as young adults later on...
>muh wasted timelol lmao even, it's not a RPG
>>500093735Careful to not choke on your edgy Blackpill, little nihilist ;)
>>500093515true
>>500094147gay luigi
>>500094047>Time is not a finite resourceWe straight up ignoring facts and reality now?
>>500094075>saying people won't remember you = anything you do doesn't matter
>>500093895super sf4 was pretty substantial as an update.
>>500093762>Not really, the frame data emphasis compared to anime fighters already put it in a league above in terms of research.Fuck off frame data wasn't a thing in SFIV I hate this frame data meme, and inb4 you say "there was frame data you just couldn't see it!" YES exactly, that was the fucking point. Clayton talked about this too, the games weren't centered around frame data before 5. It's not the same, they weren't played that way. SF4 wasn't thought of that way, nor was it analyzed that way.Sagat wasn't broken on release because of frame data, but because he did stupid damage, stun, and his dragon punch was insane.Even Elana, had frame data that literally didn't work and made some of her combos awkward, but she was broken due to stupidly long buttons, disjoints etc.Nobody was calling characters broken for "having X plus frames" etc. The games were understood far more simply before then. You can even argue that SF4 was the most casual Street Fighter before 6 considering that it shouldn't have sold the most if it was REALLY that hard
>>500094270Nah he just so deep into his own shit he is coping.Like a slut who sucked 4000 cocks so shes so mindbroken she says sex does not matter and is just a physical thing with no emotional connection or literal brain synapses to bond with other people.
If you're 20+ years old you've lived long enough to see parents having a midlife crisis and trying to cope not following their dream or fucking around, you've probably also seen former sluts collecting boyfriends and never managing to settle down.No one have it figured out, no one ever had it figured out.
Look at Guile, having a family doesn't mean you're can't be a cuck and a failure
>>500094487guilebros......flash kick this post.....
>>500094270>now/sfg/ retards been ignoring reality forever
NA hours are so fucking gay you niggas are unfunny as fuck
>>500094540Exactly lmaoSome dumbfucks here still deny Capcom viewbots
>>500094563you don't like the trad husband /fgg/ larp?
>>500094367>Retards defending rereleasing the same game full price because of some charactersNow I understand how micro transactions and DLC culture became so fundamental to the gaming industry, retarded boomers with no standards just ate up whatever their favourite companies threw at them because they lack judgement
>>500094563>NA hoursthis happens at all times of the day on 4chan
>my mom still thinks I'm going to surprise her any day now with a wife and kid
let's all thank the mikafag for generously blessing the previous thread
>Having trad values/goals in life makes you a larperAmazing how just by not succumbing you make the crabbas at life so mad...
>>500094702It wasn't full price, you just outed yourself.
>>500094431>Fuck off frame data wasn't a thing in SFIV I hate this frame data memeIt is true that there is less emphasis on frame data in 4 than say V, but by the time we got to ultra you had to know a decent amount. You had to know your blockstrings, punishable normals, etc. Incomparable to anime slop where gatling systems and whiff cancels make this knowledge useless. This is not debatable sorry.
doggushitto gemu
>most terminally online sounding person in the thread preaching about trad valuesI always laugh my ass off at this
one thing people forget is SF4 wasn't made to be a tryhard competitive game. It was made to be enjoyed by all sorts of people. When you get people looking back and making fun of how deejay was designed, remember that the game was not created for the intent of making capcom money through esports. The great esportsification happened closer to the end of the game's life, and before that all tournaments were done by the people for the people.
Ono didn't want people to enjoy anything except Tekken
>>500094431>Fuck off frame data wasn't a thing in SFIVlol
>>500095019We literallly have a /leftypol/ faggot who lives here that just seethes and calls alt-right anything that goes against his full-on-degen philosophy.
>>500095019>Saying people should aim to be the better version of themselves and have relationships BAD>Worshipping a pregnant drunkard because he was ok at the game 10 years ago GOOD/sfg/ just cant stop having shitty takes for 10min
>It was made to be enjoyed by all sorts of peopleOh yeah, they went "Here's your stance char with mandatory piano cancels timmy" with 4. How could I forget
so now dixies hate gen?
>>500095538Theres lots of mentally ill niggas ITT who just stay here 24/7 like landmines waiting for explode like the faggot who had a melty for over a hour when people told him to get a job.
>>500095669Nice reading comprehension retard
tomorrow you guys will enjoy my next GPT persona
>>500095657off modelcammy has mosquito bites.
>>500095684Even that nigger is less worthless than the poly-dicksucking /leftypol/ trash lurking here all day.
>>500095684
>>500095684LMAO I remember that...
>>500095720I dont know what a piano cancel is, your post is barely coherent and I did my best.
You just say tranny and he's gonna go on a 50 post melty
>>500095864You do realize the spam increased ten fold so he could make a Tekken OP lol. On a Sunday this is what he does, insane
you don't have to reply to yourself you know
>>500095887Nigga started talking about /v/, politics, Smash, restreamers and some other stuff I don't even remember right now just to cope with the fact he was a poor NEET shit was insane he was speedrunning through every boogeyman possible to change subject.
Oh of all my generals I’m stuck with a non-player who won’t even touch city of wolves either but spams and samefags. I miss forhonor General and soulcalibur
I gave Li Fen two rental tickets for an hour of sex and she told me to meet her in battlehub Asia 0014. I got there and I just see a bunch of fat motherfuckers looking around nervously and the exit doesn't work.
>>500095684>He just (you)'d your post with some unrelated stuffoh no no no...
Now that /tekgen/ won, what your next master plan?
>>500096262You got laughed out of tekgen too little nigger.
uh oh someone set him off again
how's tekken doing? that shit looks more cooked than sf6
>>500096262merge the generals
>>500096262>NowTekken be winning for a solid yearThrowloops for grand finals LMAOO
>>500096387that already happened (on /v/ and /vg/)
>>500096165Another successful Interpol operation.
>>500095085$40 instead of $60 for a couple characters is insane and how much many full games cost at the time
>>500095918God what a retard
O tekken lords, grace us with that hot milf Reina in sf6...
>>500095684>>500095785>>500095887>>500096087It's so obvious that it's cringe. This fag keeps talking to himself, always the same, just stop
>>500095521why do retards just think that reacting "lol" is sufficient, when it's something that can clearly either be proven wrong or not? one can only assume it's because you have no counterargument there was a variety of reasons given you just don't want to accept the implication because you're biased.
>>500094563
>>500094431Dumbest thing I've read today
Tekken finals will be on Harada's house corner and in like 2 days max, Bamco gave 0 budget to them this time
>>500096580>Still seethingYou are so terminally online you take these 4chan posts as a personal attack. You remember how pathetic you looked when people called you out for being a bum, and now you feel attacked again and need to shit up the thread to cope.Take your meds bro. Go back to your psychiatrist. Being this paranoid must suck so hard.
I hope they patch out matchmaking turning off your start button and conflicting with mods in training mode.
>>500096750bathroom game. but the best part is harada tweeting like shit isn't fucked up though
>>500095167>Incomparable to anime slop where gatling systems and whiff cancels make this knowledge useless. This is not debatable sorry.>There are no block strings or punishable normals in anime fighters>Street Fighter 4 was totally this honest complex footsies gameI see now why the SF name has been losing value over the years, SF fans are unironic delusional elitists, no wonder it took so long for the perception of SF6 to turn, the insane way they rationalize shit game/design with no actual argument or point and twist information and context to suit them is crazy.I can't even imagine how much of a circlejerk Internet places must have been when SF4 was out.
Nigga go get a job lmao stop seething
>>500095167>Incomparable to anime slop where gatling systems and whiff cancels make this knowledge uselessAmazing that you managed to be more wrong than the other retard.
I've waited 900 seconds to say this:dogshit game
>>500096625it hurts more when a retard dismisses your post because they don't understand it. I'd rather just be proven wrong by someone that knows more than me, when a retard just ignores the truth it feels like a huge waste of time.
Ryu doesn't have a job, why should we?
>>500096905He needs a job to afford his meds. He is here 24/7 to defend his "honour" against people he doesnt even know...
>>500096772oh my god shut up you cringe retard
can't believe people defend 1f links
>>500096910Not really.
>>500097194AAAIIIIIIEEEE DELAYED WAKEUP SSAAAVVVE ME*get back thrown once by cammy in usf4 and loses*
This place is so disgustingly toxic. Like nobody here has grown beyond fucking highschool and engages like their prefrontal lobe hasn't developed. Can't understand context, can't engage with differing opinions from their own. Constantly dresses up criticism in the most disparaging way like some retard bully throwing out the word "nerd" not because it actually indicates anything meaningful about the person that should be dismissed, but only because they know it's a "loser thing" to be considered a nerd and therefore they can subsequently delegitimize the opinion by association with the label.I don't know why I come here and sometimes unironically think I can have interesting discussions. Everywhere on the Internet is the same. Underdeveloped shallow retards circlejerking and straw manning whatever they don't like
>>500096983you being a waste of time is exactly why you're only getting a lol so often.
>>500097325>Like nobody here has grown beyond fucking highschooli haven't had friends since high school and developed an incredible porn and game addiction instead of dealing with life so yes i haven't grown beyond high school
>>500096983you're either genuinely mentally retarded, like actually possess the condition of mental retardation (slow, stagnated thought that can't pick up on context or nuance) or... you're delusional.I made the argument. You made none.
^button mashing niggas leave the game as soon as i mash better them then.
>>50009719499 second sweep from Tokido............SF6 is truly the spiritual successor to SF4
>>500096625>when it's something that can clearly either be proven wrong or not?It can't, without a time machine. There's no real way to prove the prevalence of a certain type of knowledge within community over a decade ago.
>>500097513I'm not the guy you were arguing about, just a random anon replying .....
Didn't 1f links open up a bunch of new shit? Kinda like doom's flashpoint in marvel 3? What new tech can be discovered from sf6? It's solved bros...it's over
>>500097765you're already doing 1f links in 6.
crouch jab fighter 4
1f are impossible for like 99.7% of players
>>500097194WOWWWWZAAAA LOOK AT THOSE DEEP COMPLEX COMBOS AND THAT DEEP COMPLEX FRAME DATA ANALSYSIS COMING INTO PLAYSWEEP INTO KNOCKDOWN INTO JUMP THROW INTO JUMP KICK INTO JUMP KICK INTO COMBO TATSU INTO STUN WOWWWWWWWIIIEEEEESTREET FIGHTER 4 WAS SOOOOO MUCH MORE COMPLEX AND DEEP THAN EVERY SINGLE OTHER FIGHTER AT THE TIME, NOT RANDOM OR BABYMODE LIKE SF5 WITH ITS BABY INPUT BUFFER, WAIT...HIT CONFIRMING? WHATS THAT? YOU MEAN NOT 1 FRAME LINKS THAT EVERYBODY ALWAYS DID AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL? HAHAHAHAHA WHO DOES THIS GUY THINK HE IS? HAHAHAHAHA GET FADC'D LOSER
nobody can even say one reason SF6 is better than jive or 4. They always just deflect and point out flaws in other games that, while real, are blemishes on a good game. Say something good about SF6's system and gameplay, you can't.
Every fighting game is trivial to make or find retarded webms of stupid shit happening in.
>>500097325What Reddit post did you copy this from
>30 people talking about 4/turd strike/ST>2 people (tops) played it for 2 hours in training mode only
>everybody knew about 1frame links>nobody knew about framedataits the kind of retarded shit you can only read here.
>>500098037with sf6 you can just post literally any random tournament footage. The crazy thing is people have posted webms of heated sagat fireball wars as if they were something to make fun of.
>>500097684there is. frame data was published for arcade games like sf2 and alpha and so on japanese bbs and chat groups, usually by high level arcade players. i think it was also sometimes published in gaming magazines like gamest and arcadia. when the games came to console, japanese players made websites like this - https://games.t-akiba.net/sf2/flame.html and discussed frame data on forums. this was also done in the western fgc, but less often. the data was often copied from japanese sources and not well-desiminated since the old fgc was much more regional and less connected. the knowledge was very assymetric. a famous example of this is when tokido came over to the us to play 3s, the american players couldn't even understand what urien was doing because they didn't have the same resources and knowledge. frame data and other technical details have been important for a long time, but it was historically less important in the american fgc.
>>500098081Welcome to modern fighting game fans>oh man I love Makoto>doesn’t even have 4 installed or the superior fightcade that doesn’t feel like ass online to play like SF4>Will admit “oh I’ll wait for her in six or beyond tho!”It’s like man if you hate six or want a character right now, you’re on Pc, you have the means
that video diaphone had where he was "challenged" by jmcrofts soured me on youtubers forever. Diaphone is a fucking saint for putting up with his nonsense and the general FGC's nonsense and not getting caught up in anything.
>>500097684Yes you can? You can just refer to how the game was talked about? How many times can you count casters talking about frame advantage in an SF5 tourney vs SF4? How did people talk about string characters verses weak ones? Did they emphasize certain buttons? Or rather damage? Or mechanics?When I watch SF4 videos and look back at how people talk about the way Elena is broken, they talk about her Super giving free Healing, or her slide going underneath fireballs, they dont even remotely talk about frame data or advantage, and even then, I've literally seen somebody mention that her fucking normals don't even function properly, and some combos straight up don't work on her.You don't fucking need a time machine for any of this shit, you can just make references to collective perception, and then if somebody has a counter example or counter reference they bring it up.I'm tired of this bullshit where I can bring up a dozen reasonings to some retard haughtily telling themselves they're right and I'm wrong when they can't even bother to pretend they have an actual counter argument.
>>500098329what?
>>500098010The Drive system is genuinely engaging even if the mechanics that use it are or have very retarded aspects to them.The characters all have very fleshed out and complete movesets that feel a lot better to play.The mandatory stupid comeback mechanic is less of a comeback mechanic and doesn't impact the neutral nearly as much.Doesn't feel like weird janky ass on a fundamental level like SF4/5.Game is shit though and they were better games.
>>500098010Just because I think SF4 is an overrated garbage mythologized game who's flaws are often overlooked or downplayed with rose tinted glasses. Doesn't mean I think Slime Fighter 6 is good.I wish there was a word for this, where because somebody can't stand receiving criticism for something they love, they end up deflecting to something else by assuming the person who is criticizing, likes something else that is also widely criticized or lamented.It's the most pathetic bitch made manner of avoiding confrontation and accountability for your shit opinions.
>>500098470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eIeAFxTkVQjmcrofts plays like its his first time. I didnt know permabegs were real
>>500097684>There's no real way to prove the prevalence of a certain type of knowledge within community over a decade ago.What the fuck are you talking about dude. You realize some people actually livd it right?You could also browse the SRK forums archive or watch older tournaments.Even commentators used to talk about "this normal is punishable" "you could get a better starter for your punish" and stuff like that from time to time.Enough of the larpers on /sfg/ for today
he'll double down, watch it
>>500098592it's a variant of whataboutism basically
>>500098598what does permabeg mean
no one cares boomer lol
SF6 is.... engagingthe movesets are.... completeIt doesn't feel.................................... weird/janky
>>500098396almost as if the thing that made elena broken was her broken hitboxes and healing, not her framedata.you think people never brought up frametraps in SF4? you know, the concept that literally only works if you acknowledge the concept of frames?its really noteworthy how stupid and deranged most retards talking about SF4 times are. thats been a consistent thing ever since the 09er term was coined.
>>500098236I can't play fightcade on steam deck, and other can't on PS4, stop creating a Boogeyman to validate your biases retard-kun.Stop stroking yourself to the idea of having played old games you fucking loser, you don't own a generation or the context surrounding it.
>>500098226Yeah, you can show that the data existed, but you can't really prove the prevalence of the information. Even you, just there, basically just stated what you believe the situation to have been. On a fundamental level you aren't doing anything more than saying "No, it was somewhat common" which again isn't fundamentally different to just saying lol and dismissing it.Not that you're wrong, mind you. I'm just saying that information like that lives in people's heads rather than being something easily referenced.>>500098396>You can track down specific conversations from a 15 year old gameThat is well past the point of easy and far beyond what anyone should care to do for responding to a 4chan post saying stupid incorrect shit.
I only like SF6, everything else sucks and doesn't hold up
>>500098592I dont know what you're babbling about, I am not assuming anything about you and I don't know who you are or what game you like. My opinions are nuanced and factual, and I can't say what yours are because I don't know you. All I know is that Street Fighter 6 is shit
>>500091054Why would it be a big deal to dick suck Clayton anyway. The guy is far and away the smartest person ever in the scene. He's honestly almost to smart for his own good, it actually makes other people look bad when you realize he exists.
>>500098396>they never talked about frame data!-they did sometimes-Neither did V commentators talk about it all the time-because of the core system of 4 (focus attacks and inv backdashes...hello?) frame data wasn't as vital. This doesn't mean it literally didn't exist, its not black and white you nigger buffoon monkey brain.
>>500098806https://youtu.be/DJhB_-tfPAY?feature=sharedYou’re shitposting and I won’t fall for it lol. Again kill yourself
>>500098937So true sister!
Clayton? More like Gayton
>>500098796>you know, the concept that literally only works if you acknowledge the concept of frames? kek. I accept your concession.>its really noteworthy how stupid and deranged most retards talking about SF4 times are.lol the ole "I have no counter argument and literally every single thing you said was right and true, but I will still call you stupid and other variations of irrelevant mean names to shift the focus of me being wrong, to how bad or unrespectable of a person I think you are, to fellate myself as better and smarter despite the objective fact that I was proven retarded".Have a good one. I'm done with this shit combo. SF4 fans are unironically worse than SF6 fans, at least SF6 fans don't have this elitist attitude that pretends they're better than every single fighting game ever.
No one will kill anything and tomorrow and next thread you'll see the exact same posts! And the day after that and the day after that until Capcom releases the Mai trailer and people take more screenshots than the guy that made it!
what caused the meltdown this time
Man who set the samfag off today. I’m away and see the last thread wasn’t even bump limit
Only the successful merging of tekgen and sfg will fighting game threads be saved.
>>500099185see this is why people give you the "lol".
>>500099357Trolls like you really need to be assraped by 16 George Floyd’s hopped on fentanyl
>>500099357lol
>>500098963>frame data wasn't as vital. This doesn't mean it literally didn't exist>>500094431>and inb4 you say "there was frame data you just couldn't see it!" YES exactly, that was the fucking point.What do you call this phenomenon of retardation, where you can predict the exact way somebody will be retarded, but because they are SO desperate to not lose an argument...they literally succumb to that very retardation, as if it's fate? As if they're not an autonomous human being with emergent thoughts who has the capacity to truly understand and interpret the word due to a unique level of self awareness not possessed by every single other life form?Because I just don't understand how it can be so clear and blatant that I win an argument...and yet my opponent act as if they were right the entire time?
>>500098881i get what you are saying - you can't prove a sentiment. but the word "common" is a synonym for prevalent. and i posted one of the most popular sf2 data sites, by the console era, i think it is fair to say it was well-known, at least in the japanese community.
SF6 still has very hard combos IMO.
I am not washed! I know he mashed while blocking!. I knew it was -5. One more than my light punch. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t punish it. He cancelled his medium, he got that idiot at capcom to add slime for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This mickery? He’s done worse. That V-trigger! Are you telling me that a man just happens activate and suddenly be godlike? No! They orchestrated it! Capcom! They DEFECATED all over ryu! And I defended them! Ohh I shouldn’t have. I made SF my whole identity! What was I thinking? It'll never change. They’ll never change! Ever since 5, always the same! Couldn’t keep his neutral the way it was! But not our Street Fighter Couldn’t be honest Street Fighter! Scamming us blind! And UMA gets to be a champ? What a sick joke! Punk should’ve stopped him when he had the chance! …But you, you have to stop him! You-
>>500099661it's ok bdj
causing much mayhem dropping drama
>>500099832Gill WILL return in SF6.
>>500099873elenas about to be so annoying. All her specials will juggle in long obnoxious combos and her normals will be trash because they all lose to DI.
>>500099472 Sfg is destined to become one with tekgen. Sooner you accept it the better
>>500099873ineeduelena
>>500099873
>>500099293Just a Tekkuck mad that people like Daigo while the tekken community is dead as shit
>>500099873those are some big jambos
>>500099873https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzs1227mwFgclears her 2i and 3s themes easily
>>500098881>Yeah, you can show that the data existed, but you can't really prove the prevalence of the information. Even you, just there, basically just stated what you believe the situation to have been.Woaaaah? Youre moderately intelligent and understand basic logic. Fine. Even though I disagree with you, atleast you're not so retarded and biased that you would take the retard bait, that that anon gave you of taking "factual" reference at face value. You're exactly right, that information doesn't actually mean anything at all. It's random information, it's not sorted into a timeline, it's not given contextual relevance, it doesn't actually point to or indicate anything broadly about the competitive or even casual state of FGCs at the time, also the argument of "It was Japanese Players that were ahead of the time!" is dumb considering that by SF4 the tournaments were shared, so there should be even more evidence of frame data prevalence for that era other than just talking about SF2 and SF3 (lol).
>>500099972Kill yourself reinacuck
just found a 2009 shoryuken post talking about framedata
>>500097194Seriously cannot believe how insanely people defend this game lmao.Have we lost so much meaning in the technological age that we just pretend to be retarded because it's fun?
>>500100443nostalgia culture
>>500099945bronze problems.
>>500100443Still better than jive
>>500100205>is dumb considering that by SF4 the tournaments were sharedThe gameplay being shared isn't proof of the discourse that drove Japanese players' decision making. It's not really something you could derive from it at all really.Hell if you could then Japanese players probably wouldn't have been so massively ahead.
good thread so far
how come nobody here ever talks about exciting matches in sf6
st.MP into cr.MP into flash kick is extremely hard I can't even do it once in training mode it wouldn't surprise me if it's 3 frames or something.
>>500100657>The gameplay being shared isn't proof of the discourse that drove Japanese players' decision making.I wasn't suggesting it was. Just suggesting that it should be a lot harder to hide the concept of frame data when the communities can't be as segregated.
>>500100205>frame data was commonly shared among the japanese FGC prior to SF4 and japanese understood the games at deeper level compared to the american fgc, here is an ancient website that was popular among the community>this means nothing and has no contextual relevance because you didn't construct a timeline, put it in a wiki for me, and do interviews with japanese playersit doesn't mean frame data was talked about in the same way as today or rigorously measure the level of frame data knowledge in the old fgc, but it does make the argument that "frame data wasn't important before sf4/5" quite shaky
Is this the first time in a long time that SFG has had 200 posts in an hour. Kek the general has been dead like the entire week I swear, what happened.
>>500101297smash timmy got upset again and then someone decided to ape one of claytons more retarded opinions, so the posts are flying
>>500100298no one cares because shes black despite otherwise being coomer bait
uh ohh I just found a video from 2012 that brings up framedata and hitboxes.
>>500101297You can tell the exact hour the posts literallt became dogshit repeat non-posts to boost it to 730 and then this OP with Tekken pops up
>>500101297weekend being alone does wonders to the mind
saddest thing was when kimberly was first revealed in 3d and every black guy on twitter had to pretend she looked amazing to keep up the capcom dicksucking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptqwbno86Uvesper talking about frame data with a browser tap pointing towards framedata 13 years ago.how is this possible
>>5001012973 schizos got asshurt because they got called out for being losers/bums and now are spamming the thread. They will prob talk about smash, tekken or whatever other boogeyman to justify whatever the fuck they doing.
>>500101858You were already spotted Smashfag
>>500101762Damn Clayton won’t like this Any btw you I was dying in tournamets?!
>>500101282>but it does make the argument that "frame data wasn't important before sf4/5" quite shakyNo, it makes the opposite more shaky, since there's no widespread evidence, or even reference that it was. It honestly doesn't matter unless it was something that either most players were aware of and factored into their gameplay, or most pro/top players were aware of.How do you explain the fact that Clayton literally says that Frame Data wasn't that big of a thing in 2D fighters until 5? Isn't this the guy that unironically plays Super Turbo in his free time? Isn't this the combo God guy? Isn't this the guy that has insane random lore in the underground parts of the FGC? He, most of all should have been aware of how supposedly prevalent frame data is.Also are you seriously trying to tell me that the Japanese just had a secret Gene that allowed them to document and record frame data but western players didn't? And even if you say "some western players DID no" shouldn't it have spread faster then? The internet is largely centralized around western countries, especially in the earlier days of the internet, why wouldn't it spread?See how many questions I can ask about this? How many questions make it sound so silly that SF4 was this super complicated frame data analysis game?I wish I remembered what video I watched where Daigo was talking about SF4 vs SF5, because that would be the real nail in the coffin.Since I remember him talking about how SF4 was just a weird game all around, where you were rewarded more for being good in the training room, rather than being good in the heat of a match aka neutral was less important in 4.
How do you guys always have the EXACT number of anything? 3 schizos, every black man on twitter, no frame data before 2009, blue deejay and so on
>>500101762>28k views>468 likesdid this guy invent crazy combos too, and is widely respected in the community like Clayton too?
>>500094906What I would give to see Guile's innocent young daughter get defiled by Balrog's large beast cock. I want to see her ride it.
>>500101762youtubers are always looking for new and interesting things to talk about so you would watch their videos. It does not reflect reality because he is trying to take your attention.
>>500102260LOL
>>500101941Take your meds or the Smashfag will keep following you in your head.
>>500102302You're the one who needs the meds Smashfag
>>500102126i have sucked exactly 5 different cocks
>>500102298I'm not the gut you're arguing with, I'm just the arbiter judging both sides. perma shitters like vesper cared a lot about frame data and sold it to people as a magic cure. You need to post proof of a pro player caring about frame data.
Why do the Brazilian commentators sound like they are doing sports radio commentary?
>>500102370>Still seething about a guy who only exists in your headLiteral schizo lol
>>500102447meds
Frame Data ruins fighting games anyway and makes them a less dynamic genre. I don't know why anybody would want to feel better about a game they like because it has frames.Smash Melee has been more mechanically intensive than 90% of fighters for decades, all on a fucking alien controller, without an emphasis on frame data, nor any care for it. In smash melee you train by fighting other players, not sitting in a training room grinding your 1 frame combo script like a bot.Stop fucking masturbating yourselves to frame data.
why are we trying to argue that frame data not being important is good anyways? its not particularly important in dix either lol.
kamala is about to free up trump and you're here arguing about frame date in street fighter
the shitty prima guide for vanilla SF4 way back in 2009 had framedata in it.https://ia601205.us.archive.org/9/items/Street_Fighter_IV_Prima_Official_Game_Guide/Street_Fighter_IV_Prima_Official_Game_Guide.pdf
>>500103127*snap* *snap* *SNAP*Wow ok.. did you know I was DYING a in hospital when this game out dude. Wow…just wow…I’ve done so much for fighting games you didn’t even know dood, ok.. wow *random image of him in a beanie* wow. Just dude, you probably just a hater man.
>>500102723I feel like buzzwords are such a thought terminating concept. I see this shit on Twitter and reddit too with phrase like "you need therapy", "take you meds", "schizo", etc.There are so many ways for literal retards to unjustifiably wiggle their way out of criticism or accountability by these broadly validated words and labels, by people who are equally thoughtless and incapable of ever engaging with anything they disagree with.Back in the day, when I was younger and the internet was less prevalent. Logical Fallacies obviously existed, but they weren't borderline insurmountable. There was this implication in real life (especially in a classroom setting) that if somebody made an argument, the other person would actually have to think up a counterargument instead of just saying "meds", "schizo", "loser" etc.Because if somebody made a point and somebody else called them a loser, they'd look like a fucking goof trying to escape an argument.This wasn't a law, so it wasn't always the case. You can kind of escape this by making it so they can't make an argument in the first place (Just make everything a joke and call them a nerd, or skits before they can even make a point, we said skits in the past instead of schizo)I'm NTA, I'm the original guy. I just feel like retardation has been donned like a badge that lets you escape being held accountable for your retardation, like a cop badge that lets you question somebody that normally wouldn't answer your question, except the latter has a fucking point and can technically held accountable by the law and government.
>>500090275>/sfg/ has Tekken OPs>/tekgen/ gets Tifa OPs>/fgg/ gets random anime chicksWhy does this happen?
>>500102675I left this thread about 1 hour and 10min and that dude is STILL seething and dilating about the "smashfag" thats some GENERATIONAL mindbreak, /fgg/'er style like when they bring up their favorite namefags to insult you outta nowhere.
>>500103597Tifa OPs happen because some fag wants to jack off to her in Tekken 8(he’s not even a player btw) Tekken OPs happen because a troll here thinks it’s funny
>>500100443>>500097194At least this took skill unlike throw loops
Smashfag doing a lot of damage control tonight
>>500103547Back in the day, the internet was mostly first world countries.
Whenever i face a Blanka, Bison, Chun, AKI i can't help but wonder if these guys think they're actually good at the game.
I think I owe Kami an apology, I've been shit talking him for disappearing since jive ended but he seems to have made a bit of a comeback
>>500103767I think some people see sf6 as revenge. They suffered through old kusoge for years so now they deserve to throw loop and summon the great reddit storm and feel nice about it. I mean I would have fun doing dumb shit sometimes but I would never pretend that its skillful
>>500103976For me it’s just Ken and aki tonight, like holy shit every aki nigga smirks when they do their stupid 70% combo
>>500096479Now, instead of $40 for 10 characters and some other features, we get to pay $30 for 4 characters.
>>500103547maybe your retarded thoughts should be terminated
>>500103976Chun and AKI yes, no for the others
>>500104127watch out, they will defend that too while insulting you. They'll say a dlc character in 6 is deeper than someone like T Hawk.
>>500104175They should be engaged with and corrected if they're wrong...unless people don't actually care about wrong thoughts, and just want to shut down any criticism or contention so they can continue circlejerking in delusional bliss.Cuz that would ACTUALLY explain why people are arbitrarily dismissive without basis. People have no principles, or values. They don't actually care about right or wrong, true or false. But whether the opinion feels good in and of itself.
>>500104048kami is based because he shits on this dogshit game all the time.>>500096479SF4 was $60 at retail. it also wasnt a couple characters it was ten characters.Super was straight up a good deal. >>500104127SF4 costumes were also much cheaper too.
no really, stop replying to yourself
Is that some good ass Saint GAWDla commentary I hear
>>500104048He was smart enough to take the SnakeEyez pill, you can have fun grinding ranked but you should never travel to play Mickey.
>>500104358Why the fuck do you retards think that just because I think SF4 was the proto retardation of DLC that that means I like SF6?You guys are driving me crazy, it's like you can only think in black and white. With or Against, For or Not.I literally bought SF6 on a fucking keysite retard, and I've barely touched the game in a year cuz it's so shit.
https://youtu.be/N5zsJ_ZBP0cClayton knows more about fighting games than anyone else on the planet.
Holy fuck getting in in this game can be so fucking annoying. When Ed or JP or Guile or Ryu play at midrange or longer it feels fucking unwinnable. I just want to SPD people man but I don't think I can deal with this many bad matchups
>>500104604We know you don't play SF6 Smashfag
Fags defending version upgrades is crazy, when everyone hated it during sf4/mvc3. You do know you couldn’t play with people who bought the new one, right zoomers?
>>500104713Nobody gives a fuck about people who don't play>See: rooflemonger/maxmilian
you used to be able to pick different characters and get by with just fundies. Now you can't anymore because you need to know which normals are di safe, which normals you need to drive rush with, how to use a characters kookily mechanics, and you also need to know their best combos because simple short combos no longer are effective in sf6 against a timmy playing on his main.
Guile being able to anti air for 50% standing is an abomination.
Clayton has been replying to himself for the last 3 hours
>>500101565Also they ruined her design. Literally nothing to be excited for.
>>500104943how does he do it?
Crabba bros... can /ourguy/ Kami make it to CC?
Why are you writingExactly like this?Can you tell us?
DSP OWNS Gayton Brapman
>Du switches to Cammy>WinsReally gets the noggin joggin
>Du losing on Guile>pick Cammy>win It's just that easy huh
>>500104713Is this supposed to be an ironic post?
>>500103976I am hardworking and honest yes. No shenanigans if you play agaisnt me, just pure honest neutral.
>>500105139Du already qualified didn’t he? What is this match worth
what are we watching
>>500104809UMVC3 came too fast and was too expensive for what it added.SSF4 was a good deal.Not being able to play with vanilla people isnt a problem because only shitters will not move to the new version.simple as.just to put it into perspective, DLC of a modern fighter will add up to $80 to get ten characters. i'll take the $40 forced version rerelease with ten characters any time of the day over that.
>>500105184what the FUCK is a paragraph
>>500105237just ignore the Cammy cabal, lifetime advice
I see her honesty is causing controversy, again.
Kami, Idom, Punk and Snake are eternally on the "I don't care about this game bro, unless I win then I'll cry"
>>500105412>DLC of a modern fighter will add up to $80 to get ten characters.? What is this boomer lie? DLC is DLC. but that's not equivalent to the same game released under a new name...of which in the modern day, people who bought the original game get for free as a big patch.Are boomers actually just delusional? Wtf lmao only delusion could justify the shit standards tolerated during 09 days.
>>500105832who the fuck cried out of these 4 other than punk? I don't think punk hates the game, he's obviously reaping the most from the game, and is also the most positive about it out of all of them, he's also the most top tier whore out of all of them other than arguably Kami, but Kami still plays luke for some reason. Yes punk criticizes the game but I don't even think he's comparable to the other 3.
>>500105374https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puahZZI_3Iw
>>500106103ah yea, the rerun. forgot they play these.
>>500106074>i dont think punk hates the gamemaybe, but he definitely hates perfect parry and throw loops
>>500105835>
>>500106168wait, this is a rerun? i've been tricked
It's over, Kami does not have the clutch gene.
see? Eternally
>>500092003Filter face>>500100162This is the quality level the SF6 soundtrack should aim for. Why can't we just have more of this? I probably wouldn't get so mad playing dix if this is what it sounded like.
>>500106349It is known, Kami was in SFL as a joke last game
>>500106328yes, none of that is live. us east WW took place on the 25th.
>>500106412The SF6 soundtrack is amazing, Smashfag
>>500104713He should make some then. Or edit videos better to make his points. He's all talk
>>500106074i asked kami the other day in chat what motivates him to play luke and he said luke is a character he can understand why he loses and why he wins. other characters you can random people out but luke has to earn his neutral.
>Is back in the Capgod circle of trust>Is getting married soon>/sfg/ is still seething about him to this dayHe won.
ZAMN, Ed players look like THAT?
>>500106578It's alright but it doesn't give 'street'. it's gym music and fashion show music
>>500106646Facts, the most honest character in the game.
>>500106746just stop glazing throw loops ok!?
>muh throwloops and bad ostSmashfag still going
>>500104826>>500105307>>500106608https://youtu.be/jHWppDHnlmMPeople only hate him because he's better than them and doesn't look like a incel. Guy is a real life super hero.
>>500106304thanks for agreeing :'(
>>500106746>He wonat the price of touching his hair every 5 seconds
clayton i don't fucking care how many of your videos you link i'm not clicking on any of them
>>500107034Imagine Clayton living so rent free in your head, you refuse to watch him even after its long been proven he's the goat.
Clayton which character do you play in SF6/SFV? How much MR do you have?
>>500107034same the only reason i know of him is because fellas here keep talking about him
why is he scared?
>>500106328The matches are. The recap stream itself is new content but also pre-recorded.
Not wanting to watch Clayton because he didn't have sex with you is pretty cringe. And very gay.
>>500106887I don't hate him, I just think he's long-winded. Like someone that would talk your ear off at a bar or social event, preventing you from talking to anyone else. He shouldn't be so unpopular, many other mediocre white men are able to garner large followings on social media, but his content production quality is at a much lower bar than it should be if he wants to be taken seriously.
>>500106887I don't hate him, I just don't think about him at all until he obnoxiously spams the thread, and then I think negatively of him
>>500107017thug shit like this isn't allowed in the FGC anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLRHUyMUCHU
>Not ClaytonNot clicking
>>500107549Anon, Clayton is mentally ill.Look at his vids, he's not trying to be Sajam or BrianF, he's closer to those schizo youtube channel you find in internet horror stories channel.
>Not ClaytonClicking
>>500108268more subs than Clayton
Clayton has had more sex with women (and men) than your favorite content creator ever has
>>500108969So? I probably wouldn't subscribe to Genghis Kahn if he were alive?
STOP DOING THIS SHIT IDOM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>500108969But my favorite content creator is Clayton, how can Clayton have more sex than Clayton?
>>500109426i don't get it
post lilykekken lily is fine too
>>500109426ugly ahh taskbar tbqh desu
>>500109426I have the same thing. It’s not a big deal>>500109482Pc autist things. I made my Pc back in august and my friends get mad when ever I screenshare too
>>500096835this might help but still cant get into the other menus
Why is Bison supposedly countered by Manon. What does she have that other characters don't offensively and what does she have defensively that other characters don't that let her deal with Bisons plus frames galore?
>>500109803Her medal system. Bison has plus frames but manon and him have perfect parry.
>>500109773I haven't watched this vid but I watched the original interview upload by thetalesofdale earlier today...Dale is unironically such a dogshit, vile, deplorable person. Like, when you think he can't sink lower he just surprises you in the worst way possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAezcBPDBiA1 frame link bros?
I love /sfg/ so much if /sfg/ was a hot girl with big tits I'd be so happy
>>500109773Common troll community W over Daley manu
>>500110040I want Brian to have my babies
>>500110269Everyone on /sfg/ including myself is secretly Shuckle
1f links would make SF6 better because... uh... IT JUST WOULD... OK?!
>>500109803>look in manon channel in bison discord>the channel is just "this matchup sucks"i hate discord
>>500109887>Her medal system. Bison has plus frames but manon and him have perfect parry.Wtf does that have to do with anything? Based on this logic Manon counters every single character in the game.
>>500111061She counters him because he lacks decent wake ups that aren’t his fucking SA and EX head stomp.
fighting games are better when they have arbitrary execution requirements. they're even better when characters have different weights or hurtboxes that require you to memorize 4-5 different versions of your bnbs or else your combos will randomly drop for no reason.
I went back to Alpha 3 and it's garbage compared to SF6
SFV didn't have perfects like Luke's knuckles or Guile's combos
>>500110040This entire video he's just glazing himself for knowing convos that others don't. Who cares? Wtf does that have to do with skill? What tournaments has he won with this super secret sauce knowledge? The reality is that combos are scripts. They're for robots not humans. Neutral is where skill is expressed, having to actually respond to and engage with somebody else, rather than just making sure you've memorized your combo script like some input output logic gate.
ISSH-ACK
just play sfv, vappas. the play button is right there
>>500111150>She counters him because he lacks decent wake ups that aren’t his fucking SA and EX head stomp.Does Bison get countered by Gief?.
>>500111671Vappas hate Jive albeithoughever, you're thinking of crabbas.
Why does Fuudo look like such an emo bitch in his pfp?
>>500111726gief is the only matchup that is statistically worse than manon
>>500112003because his child has a developmental disorder and his wife is a town bicycle that posts her ass cheeks on instagram
>>500112003to seal his power level
Motherfucker this tournament I've been watching for a half hour is a restream from 3 weeks ago, why the fuck is this allowed.
>>500112504why is she so chesty
>>500112636what's the problem? you missed it 3 weeks ago, so it's good you have a chance to watch it.
>>500112636fried
>mai>elenawho gives a fuck about these characters. wasted slots
>>500112923me :)
>>500112923>shitty dlc characters>no new costumesi was told sf6 was gonna get more dev time this season
>>500112923 The guy who made street fighter also made fatal fury. Capcom views Mai as if they own her.
What's exactly top-tier about Rashid besides SA2? Nothing stands out.
>>500113287canon capbunny
>>500113309u fkin srs m8
>>500113309good damage, oddp, best overhead in the game, ambiguous animations on oki, good button overall
eskay is about to hit diamond 5 on stream
>>500111726Gief is stubby so no lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWcKZUB-7i4
>>500112808Western SF fans, zoomers are fucked man
>>500114709Can Ol' James react to DI now?
>>500108425I think it's pretty clear he has at least some desire for success on youtube, or at least did at some point when his video making pattern formed.He's just a retard who can't keep a video on topic to save his fucking life, and any time someone tells him this he plays it off as them being mad / stupid / hater / whatever.
technicals boutta redeem Infiltration back
>>500115616....who?
>>500113309Everyone does the same shit but he has a busted SA2.Since SF6 is so strictly prescribed, all it takes to make a character top tier is one random thing working better than intended.
>>500114703Why is it so common to be this retarded.
>>500112808where did people get her age being 14 from?
ken is low tierdrive rush is deep and enhances the gametrans rights
>>500109803Bison winds up in a lot of psuedo-safe situations based on distance (scissors on block in particular). Those situations are death in this game against grapplers due to the insane, fraudulent range that command grabs have.
>>500115994This sounds like propaganda lmao. I don't know why, something about this just sounds wrong and fake.
>>500113991>ambiguous animations on okiFuck this shit>throw whiff animation is the same as standing medium kick but the frames are different just to make his meaty options even more ambiguous
>>500114234who?
manon doesnt counter anybody. Bison can keep her out just like any other character can. Problem X doesnt have the skill to recognize character weaknesses so he just did bison shit and put himself into mixups.
>>500117506He lost to fucking MARINE man…what the fuck happened to him
>>500117578mahreen is gawdlike, vappa
>manon downplayers outright disregarding statistics again
>>500113309extremely adaptable swiss army knife character who rewards matchup knowledgealso has the best corner carry in the game and good mixup options once youre there
>>500117506>my character is bad so she can't have a SINGLE good matchupretard
Marine mating press
>>500117506Yeah I just realized I don't understand this logic.The anon said that "Bison only has his EX headstomp for wakeup" and I have no idea why I just ate up his answer...how is that bad? Aren't most characters' reversals their EX moves? That's not a flaw? And besides, none of this actually matters since Manon has the worst defense and drive management in the game, and he can just maintain pressure against her? Which is why I was confused by this: >>500115994What the fuck is this retard talking about? Manons cmndgrab can't fucking punish scissors what? If it could she would be so much better against a ton of other characters wtf?It's like I'm actively seeing somebody make up shit to craft a narrative about a character.Am I tripping her? I feel like the game would legit be over, like people would be up in arms if Manons cmnd grab was so good that it could punish scissors. It also doesn't explain why I've never ever seen it. Or why Idom almost never does cmnd grabs, especially not unless it's right after a light or something.
>>500118868you're not tripping, people just are not good in this thread.
>>500118847>her titties wobbling and belly jiggling during mating pressholy....
>>500118868I didn't say it can punish Scissors.EX Grab has longer range than any of her (and afaik any character's) 5 framers though. There's a lot of ranges where scissors is safe but a command grab from manon will land on bison's 3rd actionable frame, making it a proper 50/50 command grab mixup.A grappler at +5 within command grab range is strong, that shouldn't be something hard to understand.
>>500118784How ass are you.
>>500119789If you literally only classify characters as good or bad without respect for matchups you have no room to call anyone else ass you retarded shitter.
>>500119720that's big...
>>500119789bout this much
>>500119730>There's a lot of ranges where scissors is safe but a command grab from manon will land on bison's 3rd actionable frame, making it a proper 50/50 command grab mixup. Maybe I'm simply just not knowledgeable enough about the game and can't possibly understand this, and therefore don't understand how it's possible for Idom (A former Capcom cup champion) to ever possibly lose to a single Bison as Manon (Let alone any other character since Bison can't possibly be the only character she's ever +5 against) considering this apparently convenient "mixup". But...I don't understand this. What does this even mean?So it can't punish Scissors...but it can threaten Bison anyway? Maybe it's because I stopped playing the game before Bison was released. I just don't understand what is being said here.Also from what I'm aware of, a mixup is something where basically, if you block one option, you will get hit by the other option no? So what will Bison get hit by if he dodges anticipating a command grab? I'm genuinely asking, I clearly don't understand this game enough.
>>500119893Manon barely has much shit to actually leverage her supposed grappa traits. She can't poke well, can't leverage DR that well, her buttons are so ass she can't threaten you like Gief or other close range pressure guys so she has to resort to winning multiple neutral exchanges with her weak damage output to get you into the corner and then she may be able to use her command grabs or throws. She basically plays like a shittier SF5 Zeku but with a command grab.
>>500119730So what if Bison dodges the command grab? She just fucking dies?
How did broski become such a successful fgc content creator?
>>500121353By paying his dues and stopping being a chud
Itazans borscht not landing at the end there was some bullshit have to admit lol
>>500120772I don't understand what level of irony this post is.>don't understand how it's possible for Idom to ever possibly lose to a single Bison as ManonI'm not aware of him losing to Bison in tournament but I also am not aware of him facing a similarly top level bison in tournament so far.It's a strong situation she winds up in more often against Bison than against other characters. It's doesn't make a matchup free alone.>So what will Bison get hit by if he dodges anticipating a command grab?A button? 5MP presumably. You either jump to avoid a command grab or block to avoid being hit. That's how command grabs work, anon.>>500121049Uh, yeah? Welcome to grapplers, you're flipping a coin.
>>500119720JESUS EL HIJO DE DIOSTENGO QUE MORDER THOSE NALGASAY YAY YAY
>>500113309good buttons. good DI baits. has projectile. has DP. has cr.mk DR. multiple ways to skip neutral.
>>500120503thats very ass
>>500121703>similarly top level bison in tournament so far.this whole argument is about how problem X ISN'T a top level bison, which is why he lost to mahreen
>>500121703>A button? 5MP presumably. You either jump to avoid a command grab or block to avoid being hit. That's how command grabs work, anon. Jumping beats that. And if I'm somehow mistaken and it doesn't, it doesn't matter because she doesn't get a combo off of it.None of what you mentioned suffices as a counter to bison. Let alone any character. Nobody is afraid of Manons command grab in +5 territory and you never countered how it's not the case that Manon is broken since Bison isn't the only character that would leave Manon +5. You also never substantiated the mixup point. It's not a mixup. The other option doesn't beat the wrong option. Manon always either loses more for guessing wrong (the mixer should never be guessing, a mix is supposed to be advantageous) or gains very little.I've still yet to understand how Manon counters Bison.
if manon will not spread her legs for me then I will spread them for her
>>500121353who's a good sf streamer?...there arent many. punk is funny and good, other than him, we have........ vesper or the "lmao dude im so highi 420" niggas
timmy gonna spread his legs for manons futacock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVwUTQ_--d4https://youtu.be/TOXYnFKfF4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iY-eDNAs8Older games were the concoctions of wizards.
I've seen so many pre 911 images like this, this one I didn't see till today. HMMMMMM.
>>500125318>kills your franchise
>>500124439>Jumping beats that.7 frame move at +5. Prejump is 4 frames in SF6.>Because she doesn't get a combo off itIt's a special cancelable move, anon, and this is slime fighter.>Nobody is afraid of Manons command grab in +5 territoryObviously the threat is not as strong as it probably should be which is part of why she's weak overall but come on anon. It's still a noticeable threat, especially with medal stocks.>and you never countered how it's not the case that Manon is brokenWhat's with this retarded hyperbole? Being stronger than normal in a certain situation enough to shift a matchup slightly in her favor doesn't make a character broken.>since Bison isn't the only character that would leave Manon +5Bison winds up at -5 but outside of 5-framer range more than any other character I'm pretty sure. The safety of scissors is a core part of what makes him so strong.>You also never substantiated the mixup point. It's not a mixup. The other option doesn't beat the wrong option. Manon always either loses more for guessing wrong (the mixer should never be guessing, a mix is supposed to be advantageous) or gains very little.This is retarded babble that fundamentally does not understand what a mixup is. A true mixup is always a guess on both the attacker and defender's part.Either manon grabs and the opponent either jumps (bad for manon) or blocks (good for manon), otherwise manon strikes and the opponent either jumps (good for manon) or blocks (neutral for manon). That is a decision tree which is in her favor.Why are you trying to talk about fighting games at all if don't understand why a grappler grabbing you is a threat?
i hate this game and i hate my life
>>500125318I'm not even exaggerating, everything about some of these older games are so masterfully concocted that there had to be something great to them at the very least, they must have been downright religious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGv1cVjMcIQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFKZsDzyyoI mean ho-lee.Some of this stuff from old games are so good you could blast yourself. FUCK. Something non-human aided in the creation of these things.
>>500126462I know it might sound crazy, but maybe it was satan. Lord of the air. Fell from heaven, rejected God, damned forever, but generations of genius, perhaps expressed through the concoctions of man.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaCjeQGAXWk
i always knew fighting games were satanic
>>500125318>>500125498>>500126462>>500126728Ultimately, however, only to aid in the downfall of God's most beautiful creation. Pardon my schizophrenia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ica6Zcj0yCk
>>500125805>7 frame move at +5. Prejump is 4 frames in SF6. You're not getting combo off a hit like that. I'm pretty sure that's a hit mid air.>It's a special cancelable move, anon, and this is slime fighterThat means nothing. Any and every single character in the game can special cancel a move, that's not the same as an advantage or mixup.>Obviously the threat is not as strong as it probably should be which is part of why she's weak overall but come on anon. It's still a noticeable threat, especially with medal stocks. No that's not why the threat isn't strong, it's not strong because it's not a fucking mixup, and Manon has zero combo threat. Her command grab is one dimensional, this isn't Gief with a dozen command grabs and an armour heavy punch. It's not just that she's "weak" that's vague and meaningless. It's that she doesn't have any tools to threaten Bison at all. Lily is "weak" and shes probably a scarier threat to Bison, because she can actually mix.>Being stronger than normal in a certain situation enough to shift a matchup slightly in her favor doesn't make a character broken. If a character has a reliable move that always ambiguously converts into meaningful damage, in a situation that she can be in against ANY character. Then that character is fucking broken. Fine, call it hyperbole whatever. My point is that if Manon TRULY had the options you're implying she does, then it would be impossible for her to be a weak character, maybe not the strongest cuz no reversal. But she shouldn't be losing to Gief in grand finals in the hands of a Capcom cup champion, (also didn't he get second in an Evo or am I tripping) verses somebody who has never even gotten close to that tournament glory>That is a decision tree which is in her favor. You're retarded and simply not on the same plane of consciousness idk what to tell you.I thought I was the unknowledgeable one here, but you don't know what a mixup is. (Let me just guess whether I high low mixup????)
>>500126798Wait till you hear my theory about GTA6. I've been sitting on it for maybe a year because blew my fucking mind so hard I don't even want to speak of it, in fact I wonder if it would unintentionally be me doing what capcom and everyone else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsPf6BOGhCQ did before 9/11, maybe I would be inadvertently doing some occult initiation thing.Honestly just ignore me. The way of God I think is not concerned with occult nonsense, not in this way at least. For all I know things are put forth with the intent of people seeing them, and they would "wake up" so to speak, but them "waking up" is ultimately becoming in a paradigm of the magician's creation and that's the real trick.Regard me as if I am nothing more than a crack smoker hot off the pipe, ready to channels schizophrenia into a novel. God have mercy on us all.
I truly am a wealth of schizophrenia when I'm in the right state.
>>500128016Or perhaps, wrong state. There may actually be some truth and points in what I am saying though, just don't take me seriously, no joke, not ironic, seriously just don't.
>>500127676>But she shouldn't be losing to Gief in grand finals in the hands of a Capcom cup champion, (also didn't he get second in an Evo or am I tripping) verses somebody who has never even gotten close to that tournament gloryOkay thank you, I was genuinely convinced you were just clueless about how the game works and was going to keep replying but this was enough to give the bait away.You really had me there, anon.
is juri bad if you're new? once i started trying to do combos and do the green rush thing all the time like i saw a black streamer do i've been stuck at 1k
This game is pretty fun high.
>try new leverless>reacting to DI is much easier just because of buttton placementjesus christ
post wheels and rank/mr>t. 1560
>>500128141>is objectively wrong about mixups>gets away with it anyway
maximilian duud and his nigga friend are playing kekken 8 instead of kami 6
>>500127676What exactly do you think a mixup is?
>>500129608If you block low, you get hit high.If you block right you get hit left.Somebody who tries to hit somebody on their right side and gets blocked isn't making a guess. The defender just guessed right.Manon in a y situation command grabbing, whether they blocked or jumped. Is a fundamental guess. Not to mention that getting hit mid jump barely converts into anything, even ignoring damage, it's barely Oki either.
>>500128134I probably shouldn't use the word "schizophrenia", because it isn't really nonsense.
>>500130221Can you try again but make sense this time?
>>500126870>>500125318>>500125498>>500126238>>500126462>>500126728>>500126798>>500126870>>500127710Yeah just in case if you people are demons
>>500131373I'm not. I'm just a retard. Forgive me.
>>500128687yep, welcome
>>500131498I don't think I am discerning enough to actually speak on these things, I just sometimes think of things and get carries away with perhaps retarded thoughts, I can spin interesting narratives sometimes but they probably aren't good because I think they really serve only to take people on a trip, and I don't think it's sober minded.
>>500129606>i hate duud>but i want him to play sf6
https://x.com/Lkyouh/status/1850704188952437114?t=v6XlBdym5h5OWA0J4AYASg&s=19bison players telling it like it is
Please pray for me.
You guys should try playing a good fighting game for once
>do people in here really not understand what a mixup is/sfg/bros...
>>500132538https://youtu.be/lfrZjt4zWWoluckily lordknight recently made a video on this exact topic
>>500132786So who in this thread was more correct about mixups, the Manon downplayer or the Bison downplayer?
>>500132538It's the Smashfag coming in and pretending he plays Street Fighter, he's been doing this for months
You can't be schizo and good at fgs, clayton isnt mentally illt. schizo haver and pill taker (forcibly)
>>500133878>good at fgsGood thing Clayton isn't.
>>500133878Sure thing, Clayton. Whatever you say.
>>500133878that depends on what you consider good. bronze? definitely. master? i think it's possible. world champion? maybe not. but then what's the point in taking it seriously if you're not trying to be world champ?
I would defend sf6 for the next 5 years if juri farted on my face
>>500135139this but with cammy
So did we ever settle whether Manon counters Bison or not
>>500135428no, we need the 'jam to figure this one out
>>500121703>Welcome to grapplers, you're flipping a coin.Gief has actual real pay offs to his command grab and ways to control people. throwing out a command grab at that moment is extremely high risk low reward because if the Bison jumps and you go for the cmd grab he's going to rip you apart. Especially when Manon is low on medals the pay off isn't even that good
Drive reversal should be -8
>>500136403it should be different for each character but that would be too soulful and people would bitch and whine about their character having an unsafe drive reversal. everything has to be equal and fair nowadays.
man, capcom could've definitely picked better heroes for sf6. most of the cast is so fucking boring to play.i also regret buying the s1 season pass when it went on sale because akuma is the only character i enjoyed from the list.
>>500136538It's better when things are consistent, everyone have plenty of homework to do already
>>500136174I feel like we forget to mention the fact that if he jumps she can't do anything no? Unless I'm wrong. When you hit somebody right after they jump, it cancels their jump, but doesn't it fuck up your combo? If prejump is 4 frames and mp is 7. Shouldn't it hit sometime right after they jumped? Which means the combo will start mid air, but more importantly, they'll be able to block right after? I'm too lazy to go test this myself and I hate the game so somebody please just confirm this for me. My argument doesn't hinge on this anyway since like this anon says, Manon is gambling and so the "advantage" of the supposed "mixup" is effectively meaningless.Here are the most charitable scenarios.4 actions2 from each character 4 possible outcomes (technically 8 if we consider different medals but I'm too lazy)A measurement of outcome #1: B- Blocks M- Grabs Bison takes significant damage. Manon has no oki. Reset to Neutral#2: B- Jumps M- Grabs Bison punishes for 80% health#3: B- Blocks M- MP Bison takes no damage. Manon maybe drive rush cancels pointlessly, or maybe random drive rush command grab, Bison probably jumps.#4: B- Jumps M- MP Bison gets hit mid air. Manon cannot combo off of this. Bison recovers and blocks.This is simplified. But regardless. In all of these scenarios Manon has effectively no advantage, and in 2 of them, she can be punished (1 if you don't accept the punish for #3)
>>500136798.... *eye twitch* its too late to wound up again so I'm just gonna let you have this.
>>500136538>people would bitch and whine about their character having an unsafe drive reversal.It was ass in Jive when guys like Vega and Menat had dogshit ones that actively were detrimental to use in many cases.
imagine if you could press MP and MK while in hitstun to do a Drive Cross and it changes the frame data of the move so you recover quicker, making the opponent unsafe ON HIT and making combos drop. So if Ken hit you with standing HP, you Drive Cross and when ken cancels it into drive rush for his stuff, you can block it or even just press a button before his cancelled move comes out.That's rivals of aether 2
this SHIT game is dseigned to be played on padpianoing and double tapping will just fuck you over
>>500137440>you Drive Crosswtf is a drive cross?>you can block it or even just press a button before his cancelled move comes out. having actual outplay potential for getting out of combos or super broken retarded drive rush cancel mixups indeed sounds based.>That's rivals of aether 2id buy the game if not for the fact that I've heard the ranked is pretty shit right now for some reason
>>500136403Agree i want my marisa punishes.
>>500137729I don't get how anyone plays fighting games on pad
>>500141414*does this to the stick using capbunny*
If Alpha 3 gets shit for V-Ism, then Alpha 2 should get extra shit for having even more broken custom combos.>BUT ALPHA 2 IS MORE BALANC-Why the fuck does that matter when the gameplan for the entire game boils down to popping a stupid universal "I win" mechanic for everyone anyways? Wait a minute this almost sounds like Street Fighter 6, I guess time really is a flat circle
>>500141917You have aut-ism
>>500141917Anyone claiming Alpha 2 is this dark horse game that's actually secretly fantastic but overshadowed by other entries in the series is a retard. Alpha 2 is just as broken as 3, but in a way that's even less fun to deal with.
Support Hershuar
CHESTO!
>>500141414sfv and 6 both play really well on pad. all the motion inputs are pretty lenient since sfiv to make motions on pad easy.
>>500137729Too bad playing fighting games like SF6 makes the pad last half as long
>>500132469>Meterless Drive Rush and even more simplified combo system>good fighting gameLMAO
they have to do something about the 30 sec of cinematics every matchjust speed it up and speed up the drive gain accordingly
>>500145027More like handle it the same way SA1/2 moves get handled, if it'll kill from the initial hit just display the KO screen and not the super cinematic
>>500132469This animation style is so annoying. I can't be the only one tired of it. KEY POSES KEY POSES KEY POSES IT'S JUST LIKE 2D ANIMATION BECAUSE THEY EMPHASIZE KEY POSES It looks like a fucking slideshow. There's more than just key poses. Using the shaders to replicate 2d anime shading is great. But why also recreate the limitations of 2d anime when you don't have to? I would love to see an ASW game with the meme shaders but they animate things normally instead of this stupid "bro it's 2d" low framerate aesthetic that makes all their modern games look the same.
>>500145027cinematic supers are the worsti get it. i watch 5-10 second cutscene and then i do 50% damage. why the FUCK do fighting games keep doing this
sometimes i'll sit in training mode as chun li costume 2 and do her ex lightning legs over and over again.the extension where you see her ass is magnificent. the way the thong bites into the crack of her ass is just sublime..
>>500145360terrible pseud opinion
>>500145912This but I just get RE framework and take long pauses hiding the GUI and free camming itDid you know, in order to get the more advanced free cam you need join a fucking discord. God I hate the modern internet
>>500145270They could do this in 2009 but the tech was lost
>pick up guile>find out that capcom stapled ewgf onto guile's booms>quit guile
>>500145027They'll never get rid of them. It's something casuals have based their standards on fighting games. If a game doesn't have them, they'll cry it'll be lacking.The damage Yoshinori Ono did to the genre is unfixable.
>>500136902Hitting someone in prejump leaves them grounded.This is far too many words for someone who doesn't understand something as basic as this.
>>500147429This.Look at how, to this day, casuals primary complaint about Strive is the lack of IK cinematics.Say what you will about the game but the way it handles its supers is extremely satisfying. A short cinematic in startup then letting the actual effect play out from the regular view with maybe a slight camera angle shift is so much snappier and more fun than a cinematic. But it isn't enough for the casuals so they bitch and moan endlessly.
>>500146258Perfect booms are incredibly intuitive, what are you smoking
>>500146258They're not that hard.
>>500149463his routes are all fucking hard and anti airing is harder in this game than any sf i played. guile is hard as fuck.
Guys I am in dire need of hearing that AI generated slimeshit song
Jesus. Why do the charts say Ed loses against Chun again?
>>500146258It's not nearly as tight as EWGF and it's bufferable unlike EWGF.Also they made the charge timing looser in general. Perfect boom is similar to the boom timing of older games. It's more that they gave him a shittier version as a compensation on a near miss.
>>500150674Ed might be THE worst matchup for Chun, he can easily stomp on her whole gameplan.
after watching the infiltration video it makes me wonder how much more evo titles he would have won or what he would have been had any of the allegations never happened. its kinda sad how none of the fgc stood up for him besides chris t.
>>500150913its crazy that charge times are made easier in sf6 compared to older sf's but they're still like 10x harsher than charge moves in any non-sf game
Why won't they give me back my dearest wife?I want to bully people in the corner again :(
>>500145734i like lukes ca cause its so short
>>500150674Ed is a Under Night character in SF, anyone without a extremely fast projectile gets mauled by him, it reminds me of launch Victor in Kekken 8
>>500151272Maybe they didn't stand by him because they knew him well enough to believe the allegations?
>>500151753>>500150975Ah guess you just have to out footsie him then*whiffs a million kick buttons**flickers*Gawdamn his neutch is too clean it's not possible!
>>500151665>I want to bully people in the corner again :(have you considered playing 90% of the cast?
>>500151791weak bait but its much more likely that they didn't want to get cancelled themselves and also considering how good he was fighting games it wouldn't have given them any advantage in tournaments.
>>500151752Bro... They're literally all the same length...
Complaining about lvl 3/CA animation length is some zoomer shit. Like yeah it's long (not 30 seconds lmao) and thats not great but its such a minor thing to get worked up about
Terrydoomer hereI have accepted the character's flaws and vowed to overcome themNo plus frames? No problemI'll start using spacing traps and safe jumps along with good ass counterhit MK confirms into SA1I must forgo the way of the zoomer and learn from the ancients...
>>500151992Well sure, but none of them are as fun.There was something special about Mika's momentum grappling that is completely missing from dix.
>>500152371Terry downplaying is still a thing?
>>500152550it will be until someone wins a tournament with him
>>500152550It's not downplay, just realismHe factually doesn't have any plus frame buttons, or a traditional shoto fierce button, and many of his enders are interruptable/don't give a good reward on counterhit (e.g. Jinrai kick)On top of that he lacks the ability to shimmy the way most characters can with his throw loopHe's not a terrible character, but he's unconventional and learning him has been an exercise in forgetting SF6-isms which has been quite tricky
ken doesn't have plus frame buttonsterry has a plus on block headbutt
>muh +1 on block buttonsnigga you can be -13 and not be punished in this retard game. who gives a fuck about being minus, framedata is unironically a mindset in dogslimer6
>>500152796Buddy being different is not a flaw, sounds like you're playing him like Ken and surprised he's not Ken
>>500153436>nigga you can be -13 and not be punishedNo you can't
>>500152550You don't understand. He's a shoto but he's merely a high tier instead of a top tier. That's basically unplayable. Utter trash. We should be comparing him to Jamie and Manon.
>>500153508I don't even play Ken, I played Jamie a ton...>>500153948Funny you mention that because I don't think he's as bad as Jamie, but he's probably below Luke and Ryu hovering around mid tier
bros i legit cannot do combos. been playing this shit for like 8 months now and i still drop everything basic. everything advanced is never happening.
I found my stick from back in the early jive days sitting upstairs under a bed, should I go back?Been playing on keyboard for a couple of years and fatfingering parry or throw annoys me too much
>>500154616what do you want us to do about it?
>>500154725i don't know man but it sucks sf6 might be my last fighting game except for smash
>>500154616They literally just aren't that hard. I don't mean that in a "skill issue" way, I mean that you're clearly doing something wrong or approaching the way you input things wrong or something. The answer isn't generalized but the bnbs of this game are really something that nobody is genuinely incapable of doing. Find what your problem is.
>>500154962i think i just have a skill issue. 5f links are crazy
>>500120503I nutted to this
>>500156273SNK sniffs completely mog dix uggos...not fair...
>>500155217stop mashing and learn the timings. once you do figure out the timings muscle memory will do the rest. i would focus on leanring one combo and once you learn that one move on to the next one.
>>500121353By leaving this place
>>500121353pact with the Devil
WHY is Jamie so FUCKING BAD oh my GOD.It insane how terrible this character is the moment you start facing anyone who realises how many drinks are fake and at least let them DR back in on you for free.
OH MY SCIENCE JAMIE IS SO BAD
>>500157359That's not the bad partThe bad part is when anyone with a fireball realises that they literally win for freeGod forbid they can FB+DR
thats what you get for playing a homosexual
Apologize
Fighting games are so done.
>>500157706Yeah but you realize that part early on. It's like the entree fee. It's the other shit you realize you have no meaningful counterplay to the more you play him which truly drives me insane.Realizing that your theoretically good damage is a myth and in practice you do fuck all. Or that you have very few options to respond to distant neutral jumps with that aren't risky as fuck when every other character in the game has a special specifically for calling that out.
>>500157706>God forbid they can FB+DRIt's about time you learn how to perfect parry this,
>>500158494Hello Ken Masters
>>500157706>God forbid they can FB+DRTo be fair that's retarded on every character and it's like the only situation where sometimes Bakkai can do its job and actually work anti-fireball.>>500158494That is literally one of the only things in the game that is actively resistant to perfect parry.
>>500158748?
Laura DLC when?
>>500159126She's never coming back, thank god
please..no more...i already nutted
Thanks DJ Bust a Nut, thanks Mario Pooping on Rickstah
playing against people with atrocious playing styles really puts me off the game. niggas just doing random shit just to win. why do i have play this game like its a jump scare horror movie?
Cammy using my tongue as toiler paper. Simple as.
>>500156671i don't get how you "don't mash". even if i'm deliberate about pushing the buttons i still see 3-4 inputs usually.
>5MP>2MP>5LP>5MK>2MK>5HKReminder that all of these Terry buttons are best in class and they will STILL complain and call his normals bad.
>>500159126give the sauce
>>500159606By pushing the button once?If you're looking at the input reader in training mode or whatever, the attack icon represents every frame that the icon was held down. If you push LP then wiggle the stick you'll get a bunch of lines with LP on it despite only pressing it once and the game treating it as one input.
>>500159623His crMK is not best in class, and you forgot stHP, the most important button for any character in the game lol, especially a shoto
If you weren't so retarded and meaningless to society maybe fighting games wouldn't be this way nowadays.SF6 won.
>>500159924His crMK has more range than the other shotos and thus is better.stHP is important to the other shotos in this game specifically. It is not important to the shoto archetype as a whole somehow.
>>500159126Ester Muniz Megan Fox Angel Fox
>>500159764thats hard as fuck sorry but im gonna stick to shooting people in the head over playing stepmania songs every time i get a hit on someone. i'm too white for this game
>run into someone i know that frequents my local in ranked but we never met>he beats me one game>i beat him second game>he leaves and immediately queues his next match on streampart of me wants to jokingly shame him for the laughs, but that would be the bitch path to go down i guess
where the FUCK are the new costumes?
>>500160903soon...
Guys I dunno if I can do it, the drive system sucks the fun out of this game so fucking hard, I just want to play street fighter why do I need to deal with this retarded gimmick system?I hate these devs so much
Why is each season 4 characters instead of 6? And why so many months of distance between each character?
>>500161163IMO the actual dev team is smaller than you'd think
>>500161163because fuck you, also buying the 4 of them costs as much as a new version of the game used to cost. And also the old version of the game you bought stops existing with every update and you're forced to play the new one but without any of the new shit unless you pay for itPrease understand.
>>500161123It's almost like letting a Guilty Gear player not only balance but also do game design for Street Fighter isn't that good of an idea.I don't get why they rehired Nakayama and Woshige after SFV, the disastrous launch would've let one think they'd hire a different director and battle planner for 6 but that ain't what happened
>>500161217i bet there is like 6-10(including managment) people and an outsourced subcontractor for battlepass slop
>>500161163because of wt
>>500161595I don't get it, why didn't they just hire a fucking street fighter player
not even trying to start shit but europeans fucking SUCK at this game.
>>500090275
>>500161217>prease understand we must maximum profits for our shareholdersthis kind of shit ruins gaming
>>500161637What people never understand about software development is that adding more people doesn't make it go faster, and can often slow it down
>>500161716has nothing to do with it. it just takes for fucking ever to make a new character and they're not willing to increase costs to make it go faster if it doesn't increase profit.
>>500161163small company prease understandu...
>>500161759>>500161805Lol proven right seconds before I postedShut up NEEToid and get a job
>>500161881Honestly there's only so many ways a punch can happen
>>500161918Funnily enough jive found more ways. Crazy.
>>500161163The characters actually have effort put into them unlike SF4/5, and a general realization that character bloat only makes a fighting game worse.Stupid retarded cope about how you don't like the game so actually it's low effort somehow like >>500161881 doesn't change this.
>>500161805sure, especially in a creative field, but there is still work to be done, mistakes to be explored and bugs to be fixed. we are slowly automating more and more but we still far from - designer promt -> a product
>>500161989And Jive was a complete visual mess.
>>500162002>The characters actually have effort put into them unlike SF4/5This is what dixxies actually believe
>>500161046Punk Cammy with her hair let go.... Yes please
>>500162146sf4 was such a mistake. Didn't boomers have anything better to play?
>>500162002>a general realization that character bloat only makes a fighting game worse.The roster is dogshit, even people who like the game admits it. How could there be bloat when nearly everyone plays the system instead of their character already?This is the literal definition of cope.
>>500162002>The characters actually have effort put into them unlike SF4/5
>>500162146You not liking the visuals of a game does not change the amount of work that the game takes.Spamming retarded cope images like this is also pointless when everyone who's even looked at SF6 knows it looks massively better than 4 or 5 even if they hate how it plays. Everyone is just going to disregard you as a mindbroken autist out of hand.>>500162318Adding more characters who play the same is not the solution to too many characters who play the same.
>The characters actually have effort put into them
I mean they are going to some unnecessary extremes with the details on these characters, they shouldn't take like 6-12 months to get done. The general audience definitely thinks it's taking too long.
>>500162153>punkIt's literally military dress uniform anon.
>>500161859How exactly does it take longer than it did in SF5?In SF5 we got a new character, a powerpoint, trials, music, and a stage.vs SF6 New character, WT, npcs, stage, trial, arcade, and music.To rectify, i don't think WT is soley the issue, rather it could be due to avatar slop being more cost effective/profitable
>>500141637sauce?
>>500159606If that's difficult for you, you don't have to learn to not mash btw. You can learn to mash at the right timings. The only thing that matters is consistency.
>>500162632Me and ur mum ;^)
>>500162504>Adding more characters who play the same is not the solution to too many characters who play the same.This is especially a dix problem. Nobody looks at older sfs and go "damn I wish I had less choices and unique MUs :("
>>500162584this sort of bot-like cope posting doesnt work when every normal person on planet earth thinks sf6 is a better looking game than 4 or 5.>>500162620its impossible to talk about this without setting of crabbas but the dlc characters in 6 are of much higher quality than the ones in 5, especially early on. look at alex. falke's janky as fuck animations. original sakura.
>>500162619Is it? I saw it as a black jacket, but it's probably dark green. As long as her ass is not covered like in the first costume I'll be good
>"The game was never this polished!">post the ugliest Chun li in the history of street fighter>"c-cope"Are you a literal 50iq mongrel?
>>500162584If it was NRS you'd get 30 minutes essay on YT by failed animators saying how bad these moves look, but because it's Street Fighter no one bats an eye. It's incredible.
>>500162715SF4 and 5 were regularly mocked for their bloated rosters full of clones and gimmick characters.
huh, ranked really starts getting dry past 1550. i'm getting an increased amount of matches against people 200 MR higher than me. doesn't bother me too much though since i can KINDA put up enough of a fight to the point i can learni don't think this is something capcom can fix though because it's on the community to git gud enough to get to these brackets for a healthier population
>>500162693My mommy is Manon...
>>500162920Yeah exactly
>>500162869Because on youtube they'd have to show the full animation and it'd be clear that the animation looks fine.There's a reason that it is ONLY here where people can get away with spamming these retarded bait images.
>>500162894this is a problem with sf6 that's rarely talked about but very apparent, especially in regions like europe. i asked sajam about this and he ignored and muted me :^)
*streches*
Why does Chun-Li not care about Li-Fen having a father figure?
>>500162886SF4 was mocked for the poor choices in newest additions, not for adding new chars. Stop larping zoomie, you didn't live sf4 and unfortunately I did.>5Aside from Luke wrecking the meta everybody praised Rose's unique gameplay, and everybody loved how they did Oro and Dan. What are you talking about? Retard.
>youtube recommending me mugen videos of Cyber Mai, and a Chun-Li with an intro showing off her ass with her panties pulled down and stuff leaking out of her cooterlol
>>500162894High level ranked is always a meme.Go find people to play long sets with.
>>500163085why should she?
>>500163185does she want Li-Fen to grow up as a whore or a lesbian?
>>500162584Broken limbs are pretty common in animation, it sure looks dumb on stills or if you look for that, but it's usually made for better timings and feel of movement because it's more important
>>500162894literally a problem with every single multiplayer game, including team based ones
>>500163014>the animation looks fine.If you pick Chun, go in training mode, and press st.mk and think "damn this looks good." You are : >retarded>started fgs last year>retarded>blind>retarded
>>500163087>SF4 was mocked for the poor choices in newest additionsYes, when you endlessly shit out as many characters as you can you wind up with low effort slop.>not for adding new charsPeople did this too. You might have never left an SF circlejerk but the roster size was shat on. Fighting games should never have a roster that big. It literally makes the game worse.>5Wow the last season was well recieved!Guess we can ignore the rest of the game then. Nothing wrong with the thirteen white women with crMK confirms or worthless wastes or grapplers they made busted then dumpstered or introducing Guile 2: Motion Input Boogaloo who nobody played or wastes of space like Necalli or...
The "they're taking long because the models are made with effort, actually" argument is mere cope by blinded Capcucks. And it's not like they're any more special than previous 3D character models, it's an argument that could make a bit more of sense for something like ASW models with all the cel-shaded tech but not for basic SF6 models.I think it's simply because of WT.
>>500163328Which is why everyone mocks it outside of this thread's dedicated spamming schizos, right?
MY FUARKIN' HEROES
>>500163451This is omega-level of cope for having 4 chars per year. lmao
>>500163606There is no cope.It's just better. Rosterbloat is garbage and kills games.
>>500163574Who's "everyone"? Timmy who started fgs last year? Or streamers/competitors/animators?
>>500163489Ryu bros... why don't our buffs do anything...?
>>500163134>>500163298>high level multiplayer>1500didn't you all screamed that this is where the game starts and all the people naturally are?
>Roasterbloat is garbage>In a game that just got fucking Terry
>>500163786Why do you assume that everyone on this board is the same person?What is wrong with your retarded schizos?
>>500162869Because Capcom owns the FGC by the hand and they know it. And Street Fighter is for many *the* Fighting Game, so unless there is something overtly bad about it like with SFV no one's going to care.
>>500163786getting to 1500s and consistently staying in 1500s are deceptively two different levels of skill.once you get to master, the average player will get smacked to sometimes as low as 1200. they will be stuck there for a small while. 1200-1499 is basically like starting the entirety of diamond rank all over again.
>>500163692>There is no cope. It's just betterNigga you waited for a FANG clone that does fb slime, and then you waited for Bison who does slime all day. And then you waited for a cr.mk slime bot with Terry. You're getting 4 chars a year and they all play the same.
>>500164034>youWhy are you in the SF6 thread if you did not also wait for it?
>>500163269It's the second time I hear this argument and it doesn't make sense in this context given that the animation is as straightforward as it gets. If it was let's say a nitpick of one specific frame of a very complex animation I could see this argument but there's nothing layered about Chun's stmp animation, seeing it in motion doesn't really save it.
moe moe ~kyuun
>>500164034>b-b-b-but let me deflect back to unrelated criticismRoster bloat is bad, in and of itself. You would know this if you actually played fighting games.
>>500164375Who's Moe?
>>500164484Oh...I mindbroke you...sorry.
Juri and AKI are the only good characters Capcom made since third strike.Questions? Comments? Concerns?
>>500163328I love watching her beautiful thighs when she does MK
>>500138587how can we make sf6 more fun for people that used to love the series?
>>500164667why are you a coomer?
>>500164667Both mogged by Jamie.
>>500164831I'm not actually jerking off. And if I was I wouldn't be on here. And if I did it wouldn't be over street fighter characters/cosplay. I'm more of a Yuria Yoshine kind of guy.
>>500164923gayschizo where the hell were you last thread
>>500164667
>>500165441that's q he good
>>500164825I can't believe shuckle was a vappa all along
>Hate SF6>also hated SFVI feel like a rare breed.
>>500165931smug...
dix dies on Oct. 31
>>500165931No, that's pretty common view, there's just a couple of dedicated schizos here who are so desperate to shit on SF6 they pretend SFV was good. We've been here for a year now and we all know how pointless trying to call the retards out is at this point.
>>500166093Smug loved V post ae
why do people automatically default to mashing buttons as fast as possible for combos instead of pressing once or twice. trying to teach my cousin
>>500165931SF has always been dogshit and 4 is the exception
>>500166953Truthposting is about 3 hours from now
*replying to yourself hours
>>500167340you're not me
*seething about the man in my head hours
>manIt's woman with Chun-li voice in my head
>>500167419Im me
Im me? More like Im mo
>>500166850Because he expects a button press to do something, so he mash it until it does Try to show it to him with the "show cancel window" option in training
>>500167541>bannedImmo lost
>>500167689>Made over 100k restreaming without showing his face>20k in 1 month one timeDamn I wanna lose like that as well...
>>500166850>Wanting to introduce another person in this dying ass franchise to fight against smurfers bums who play since thurd strike at leastCruel shit
>>500167880he asked me
>>500168041Hank hill ass compared to Manon
>>500168041Disgusting
>>500168041Gross! Why does it bend like that?
>>500168041
>>500166850Because SF6's input window is lenient enough that mashing is significantly more consistent for new players.
>>500168162>>500168167>>500168240u r gae
>>500165259I don't know who that is but I'm always down to post gay
>>500168041>That elbow>Tha butt foldYou could hire some modders from Jive who never worked with animation before and they would deliver something better
>tokido already using the new hitbox shitof course lmao
>>500166112shuckle would destroy you in both games
>>500168335Is just one of his 13 different boogeyman/voice inside his head...
>>500168368What is this?
>>500168368If you play on this you do not get to complain about modern
>>500168494https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9WQvYCpN_Rw
Have you guys watched Dale playing black ops? How does he suck so bad at games made for teenage boys and drunkard boomers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5UxPJrHG-w
>>500168360>That elbowI don't know how your morphology is but if you're a normal person, there's nothing extraordinary about that elbow strike. >That butt foldit's called art
>>500168645That nigga ass at every game he playsHe ragequit silent hill
>>500168645He is always shit and needs cheats to win
>>500168632I see. What else would this be good for? Looks like tokido has it on lp and lk as well
>>500148598>Hitting someone in prejump leaves them grounded. I can't tell if everybody is just trying to take a jab at me to stroke their ego or what.But if we're talking about a 5 frame advantage. And Manon used a 7 frame move, and prejump is 4 frames. Then unless I am STUPID WHICH I HAVE ASKED MANY TIMES FOR SOMEBODY TO GENUINELY CORRECT ME BUT PEOPLE ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN SUBHUMAN PLACE CALLED THE INTERNET ARE FAR MORE CONCERNED WITH SIMPLY PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN, TO LIFT THEMSELVES UP Manon should hit Bison basically right as he starts to be in the air.How am I wrong?
>>500168645He got filtered by Mario Kart
>Nigger playing ManonPlay a real character
>>500168368>>500168632I don't get the point of this shit. Doesn't CPT (and most other tournaments) have rules about only having one of a given button? And if you aren't doubling up, how's it different to just having a second button there with a custom layout?
>Have you guys watched Dale playing black ops?Genuinely how do you not get tired of watching him rageare you stuck in a timeloop
>>500169352>>500169352>>500169352
>>50016938930 posts early retard
>>500169298>Said the faggot in a general full of mindbroken cucks playing the same character/game doing the same combos for over 20 yearsDale's rage is quite exquisite and never the exact same, but you need to be an expert to tell the difference...
>>500169582This"People" are even proud of playing the same character and never maining DLC so they don't have to actually think and learn the gameThey rather seethe about X. Y. Z character instead of playing them for 10 hours at least to understand how to act when you fight them.
>>5001691067-5=2.A 7 frame move with 5 frames of advantage will hit on the 2nd actionable frame. If Bison jumps as soon as he can, he'll be on the second frame of his prejump when 5MP connects, which is a grounded hit; he is not airborne yet and is still in the process of jumping. That results in a grounded combo for manon.>I HAVE ASKED MANY TIMES FOR SOMEBODY TO GENUINELY CORRECT ME BUT PEOPLE ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN SUBHUMAN PLACE CALLED THE INTERNET ARE FAR MORE CONCERNED WITH SIMPLY PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN, TO LIFT THEMSELVES UPYour posts all came across as sarcastic in that regard I'm pretty sure.
>>500169389Why do we have another off topic OP image
>>500169582you win the autism competition ig
>>500168645>>500169129He legit could barely drive in Mario Kart without falling off tracks constantly. He might have some kind of motor function decay.
>>500170526He even admitted once while playing it>I wish I could cheat and just get bullet bill everytimeNigga doesn't believe in learning the game/hardworkHe always wants the easiest option possible
>>500169098Maybe run cancels for Ken? I don't know desu, but no doubt he's found some really cheap with it.
>>500170686More proof zoning is the retard mode for fighters
>>500170686Same reason why he thought he would just magically be scouted by movie producers one day instead of actually trying to pursue acting with auditions and stuff.
>>500171042The funniest thing is that now he actually went to some auditions and got a minor role as a sick background patient being paid in a meal during the set, but they scrapped his footage last minute from going into the final product due to his online footprint being too toxic LMAONigga cant even get a role as a background NPC shits so over
v rival is so much better than ranked holy shit
>>500171380https://youtu.be/DcIfEADhyJQ?si=g2ohosh7UlEnqW0yWatching this video really showed me that the level of delusion he's under is legit dangerous. Would not be surprised in the least if he mentally snaps one day and hurts himself or someone else.
>>500171380>All that height>Didnt make into sports or entertainment>Didnt fix his insecurity so he still bitchless and got some ugly 4/10 hispanic chick pregnantHis life peaked around 10 years ago by being in the spotlight in the FGC and Alaina. Downhill nosedive ever since.
>>500171637While snapping out is possible, he is too much of a self-counscious nervous bitch, he never raises his voice or does anything violent in public. Even in voice-calls in his own room with people 20 years younger than him he already acts timid.
>>500171664Dale is proof good looks can only carry you so far, but having shitty mental genetics is worse.Kinda like Elliot Rodgers was built as a healthy white mixed american male driving BMWs and wearing the most expensive shit by the age of 17, but nothing could fix his dogshit mentality.Good looks/money without a healthy mind is meaningless.
when did this become /ltg/ get a room faggots
>Some casual chat about Dale in a thread about to die anyways >"waaahhh dont talk trash about El Tee Gee!!"
>Not talking about Dale when this year has been troll greatest hits and his birthday is next monthIs like you HATE fun...
>>500172204>tfw the black bitch will prob dodge his birthday stream Is inevitable since theres always the next one but he such a bitch for doing so.
Outside Dale whats even there to talk about right now? Manonschizo refusing to play a real character or coomers posting porn?
>knowing this niggas actual birthdaycan you get any gayer?
>>500172419I wonder what the trolls are cooking this year been insane
>>500134376>>500134548For a guy that isn't good at games, he sure has a lot of proof of him being awesome at them.
>>500172028timmies are obsessed wth the man
>muh timmies when your average nigcel worships him because of meme bbc trash talk
Why does everyone have such a gigantic fucking ego in this game? Jesus christ
>>500173202real niggas know hes a coon and do not worship this man nice try
>>500173236Most people playing are losers with nothing going on in life so they overcompesate
>>500173320Which is why you got niglets still vomiting his lingo and talk about Jr. here and there? Specially in /fgg/ ?/fgg/ nigcels literally exist to defend that guy. He is the ultimate grandfather of nigcels.
>>500173460>/fgg/ why would you ever step foot in that place
>>500173320>Real niggasyea a minority most black losers love him still
