Check your backups edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-60Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-59Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/subject/agdg/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Recap: https://recap.agdg.app>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>501496152
first for AIchads
>giving cris advice thinking he'll take it
Tried to make a timeline and lerp to shoulder the shotgun and accidentally made sick gun tricks
Is there a place to get people that can test screen a game for me?Like I can just list my game and people will test screen it?
>>501572418why would i play your game for free?
xth for casting black magic on lolitroons
>>501572548It's a free game and I just need people to give feedback
>>501572368I crabbed him about his low poly models a few days ago and he relented and took my advice. I think the problem all along was that nobody was kind enough to give him a good crabbing.
>>501572368their advice doesn't work because is more expensive than my own workflows.I will follow your advice if you can give me a cheaper workflow while delivering better results.
>>501572727newfag
>>501572368At this point I believe whaevert he is doing is 100% intentional. Like outsider art or some shit.
>>501572750you would waste less time doing things properly instead of coming up with retarded workflows than
>>501572782I'm a very oldfag. I even said "I know I shouldn't respond to cris" before I did. But look today, his models are looking much better.
>>501572750>their advice doesn't work because is more expensive than my own workflows.you'll be on your deathbed still hunting a workflow
What can we learn from this? I wish devs would make post mortems
what will make you buy my game?
>>501573543lolies
Do porn games with static images become profitable? Every game i see on f95 is an animated loop.
>>501573543black men shaking their asses
>>501572909>>501573046I'm not a billion dollar company.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Ee6PJvek4I can't make this using the traditional method of drawing every frame from scratch.
chocolate girl seems a little bitterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Ha4VJpPfA
How many visual arts focused solodev success stories have there been? I'm having trouble thinking of any. It's mostly gameplay focused devs and a few musicians.
>>501573949If you spent all the time you've spent searching for "workflows" you could absolutely have made that intro sequence. And if you had you would be very skilled at animation and have a completed product to show for yourself, whereas right now you have nothing.
>Game has lots of quality side content>Some of it enhances your main story experience greatly>For whatever reason there is a hidden point of no return with no warning which locks you out of it all>The game loves to rub it in that you didn't play it correctlyWhat is this called and why do so many developers do it? I never see a reason for it to exist.
>>501573949i want to get a girlfriend and the only thing i'm good at is drawing, (currently learning music and making porn games in unity)should i tell a girl that i draw or they feel digust about men who draw? i kinda feel is boring for them.
>>501574405If so, then why anime studios cost 2 million to make for 10 episodes while being animated like a slideshow.IF acording to you, a single animator can easily make 2 minutes of full 24 FPS animation traditionally in 1980 non digital workflow?>>501574598girls only care if you make good money and are tall and good looking.girls don't care about male hobbies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skhP1U6FNEITS HERE
>>501574565They're telling you to new game plus.
>>501573949>drawing every frame from scratch>traditional method
>>501574781how do you think traditional animation is made?
>>501574714>girls only care if you make good money and are tall and good looking.>>girls don't care about male hobbies.i'm also learning languages. i've already learned english and currently learnning japanese.is telling women that i'm learning japanese a red flag for them? you know.. because of lolis and netorare ?
>>501572401gamers...
>>50157471410 episodes at 20 minutes to the episode == 200 minutes. 2e6/2e2 = 1e4 per minute. That sequence is ~2 minutes, so call it $20,000. Completely within reach for a dedicated solo animator.
i fucking hate lowpoly
>>501575147yes, if he spends multiple months on it.
>>501575312he's been refining his "workflow" for fucking years man. he could take a two month break to do something worthwhile
>>501575003I kinda disagree. Women primarily care about perceived status. A millionaire who drives an old Honda is less attractive than a retard who's in debt (negative net worth) but drives a fancy car. Things like having money and being tall simply add to your perceived status. As for Japanese, it depends on the kind of women you're into. It's probably a plus for an asian fujoshi.
I fucking love this stupid bitch.
>>501575485No, because I can't use a method that can only make a single illustration every 4-5 months.
>>501574898Constructing frames from multiple component parts including, where desired, individually hand-drawn frames. This is the core process of traditional celluloid animation. If you think more than half the frames you see in a Disney movie were drawn, I'm sorry to dissuade you of that, as they were captured (one frame at a time) with a film camera, with the cells assembled and layered on a flat backlit glass platen. Yes, some things were drawn individually frame by frame, but just as common were deliberately creating reusable artwork separated onto individual cels that could be rearranged as needed, such as blank faces, eyes of various expression, mouths in different arrangements, etc. Even Steamboat Willie was not drawn frame by frame, it consisted of (numerous) hand-drawn component cels that were arranged and exchanged as needed while capturing each assembled frame with a film camera.
>>501575618she is so fucking based
>>501574119did my parents work on my game because I'm making it in their house?
>>501575767That's layered animation.Not traditional.Or could be layered traditional.
>>501575860if they financed your living expenses while you developed your game on their house, yes
>>501575618>obsessing over an eastern european little girlmaybe fygoon and I aren't so different...
>>501575698I've already proven that it takes a few months worth of man hours total to make that animation. If it would take you longer, then you simply need to practice.>>501575890The animation he posted very clearly used pans, stills, etc, indicative of layering.
>>501575770Hell yeah.
>>501575890Nigger celluloid animation is traditional animation, you disagreeing won't change that fact. Truly hand-drawn frame-by-frame commercial animation is extraordinarily rare, and always has been, and is NOT thought of as "traditional animation," as traditional animation is celluloid. You can suck my Disney-loving cock if you disagree, you'll still be wrong.
>>501576132A few months, and then I would have only gotten that animation.I need that animation + a game to be made in 8 weeks.>>501576268the point was that is impossible to do the same task it took an entire team of artist to make as a single guy unless you spend half a decade doing it.
>>501576158they look like they would innocently agree to do photo-shoots wearing very questionable clothes for cheap only to regret it later on their lives
>>501575965You "like" Alice because you want to fuck her.I like Alice because she is funny and stoic.We are not the same.
>>501576158she's FUARKING iconic
>>501572401>>501575062colonel we managed to avoid drowning
>>501576626I want to fuck alice because she's funny, stoic and sometimes bratty
>>501576532Word?
>>501576404>the point was that is impossible to do the same task it took an entire team of artist to make as a single guy unless you spend half a decade doing it.I can't argue with that, it took 3 artists a total of 3 months to do the ~11,000 frames of Steamboat Willie, with the assistance of what was then considered a "modernized" celluloid process.
Get a job niggaYou ain't making it
>>501577049my point is that I can't compete with their methods because they can hire dozens of people with more talent to work full time on a single task for months non stop.I can't realistically compete with that.It's a delusion to even attempt that.
/agdg/ - Alice Game Development General
It seems like your game hasn't received the attention you hoped for. How do you feel about the lack of interest, and do you think there might be something in your approach or expectations that's influencing how you perceive its reception?
>>501577639True, Alice is /agdg/ culture after all
this is it, i will never post progress on this place ever again
Last thread, I postulated that Fagroon is not actually a fag, but an XX woman, and received no noteworthy pushback. Henceforth, this theory shall be accepted as fact until proven otherwise.
>>501573689kys
1st dungeon is a little barebones right now but it's fully explorable and running around trying to survive is fun. Just need a few more towns so I can add in more quests
>>501577905stop shitting up the thread with stupid shit like this
>>501578257>stop shitting in the toilet
https://x.com/sysmainframe/status/1854561139234906220>stops posting here>blow up What can we learn from this?
>>501578703>pitywishlists twitter doesn't buy games
>>501578939Twitter success correlates with steam success, all the flops released in the last year are also flopping on social media.
>>501579093Twitter success does not signal sales, but twitter failure does signal no sales.
>>501579093>Twitter success correlates with steam successdon't make me post it
>>501578637you're supposed to shit in the bowl not smear it across the walls
>>501578703>>501578939>>501579093Negrofail was a flop
>>501579093Sigh, looks like I need to dust off my Twitter account...
>>501579093twitter is dead now that they can use everything you post in there to train their AI models
got the basic logic down, probably will need to redo how the maps are loaded so i can actually pass in the battlers though
How do you come up with a name for your game?
>>501580135just pick two random words related to your game
>>501573689I don't get it?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3060130/Cosmic_Call/Oof.
>>501579541Is this pencil sketch?
>>501579541
>>501580298welcome to this grim hobby nepobabies wonwe lost
>>501580298Ctesiphon and Damaskus will save us if either of them ever comes out
GET A JOB NIGGAYOU FINNA FLOP THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL
>>501580923erm, actually, the writing is on the board. because you posted it on an imageboard. :B
>>501580923Nobody hires me
>>501580298I was literally telling you about this 12 months ago you fucking nigger. Who the fuck was surprised about this shit?!!!?!? I literally told you to stop paying attention to that game because it has no substance and no future. Why don't you ever listen to me?
>>501580570It's digital
>this isn't a competition just make game and all games are valid>but if your game doesn't get downloads and feedback and streams it's clearly inferior to these other games that's why they deserve to be at the top>but don't you date call out the fact that they all flop on release we are all equal hereare you retards for real?
Every year I'm becoming even more like Cris. Gotta get a job.
>>501581797Crazy. I can't even tell. It looks like prisma colored pencils.
>>501582123it's traced from AI art, stop giving him (you)'s
>>501578703>posts literally 12 gifs>gets 3200 followerswhat the actual fuck, those have to be paid views
>>501581990Thank you
>>501582123He uses different colors for different layers AFAIK.
>>501581990People here keep forgetting the golden rules, so it's time for a reminder:There are no good AGDG games.There has never been a good AGDG game.There will never be a good AGDG game.
concept art progress
>>501582801>ESL RETARD
>>501582842erm, yeah?
i will make a piece of shit and expect you to buy it
>>501582535>There are no good AGDG games.Dead Sector, Mirrored Soul>There has never been a good AGDG game.VA-11 Hall-A, Risk of Rain, Project Wingman>There will never be a good AGDG game.Project Landsword
>>501578703people here hate to see mecha chads and passion devs winning. some treat videogame development with the same level of greed and hatred as an EA CEO
>>501583057all trashwhere is my game?
If I can get through a certain part in your game without taking any damage, I shouldn't have to repeat it if I die later on.
>>501580298All the reviews are positive, meaning the game only needs to wait for word-of-mouth to spread and it will take off. It's only been out for less than 3 weeks.
>>501583454amazing cope
>>501583057>Highlighting Landsword in particularWHERE is his advertising campaign? We're well over 10 people running in with no advertising and then unsurprisingly flop.
>>501583559>WHERE is his advertising campaign?His last 4 tweets went over 1k likes.https://x.com/sysmainframe/media
im gmi
hot goblin shortstack action coming to a game dev general near you
>>501583913X is dead after the election. And the conversion rate is terrible for telling these people to click on links.
>>501583559Landsword is the only agdg game in recent memory to have successful advertising campaigns and gone viral. It is quite possibly the only current agdg game that will make it.
>>501584429>X is dead after the electionthis sentiment is why democrats lost
If your game has a bunch of green grass, it will fail
>find a random developer who put his game on Steam>literally made 15 cents/hour How do I avoid this happening to me?
>>501583101Awoken deserves the hate
>>501581734I think Cosmic Call was pretty good for a first game the dev's just retarded about marketing like all anons here
>>501585512You can't market baby's first game, have you fucking looked at gamedev twitter? Far better games don't get attention, marketing is not the problem
>>501585017Market your game and gather wishlists. Don't release game if you don't have any wishlists. Don't beg people to wishlist just get your cool game out to people so they wishlist because they want to buy it.Wishlists act as your measurement of how interested people are in your game. If you can't get to 10k it tells there's something seriously wrong. It could be that the Steam page sucks, the trailer sucks, the demo sucks, your marketing sucks or the visual appeal of the game sucks. If you can't get attention on your game something is wrong but it is up to you to determine what that is. 10k is the bare minimum btw. It doesn't guarantee anything. If you can get to 100k you probably have a decent game on your hands.Dropping a game on Steam with a couple hundred wishlists is destined for failure.
>>501583057What is sukeban games up to now?
>>501585017Publishing on Steam isn't the end point, it's the starting line. There are plenty of hugely successful games that didn't make a profit in their first, second or even third year.Once you publish, you start pushing out updates and shilling your game to people who might be interested. It's only after you do that solidly for 2 or 3 years that you can accurately gauge your success.Indie games are fundamentally different from triple As with million dollar marketing budgets. A triple A's success is calculated in the first month, an indies success is calculated in years.
>>501585804It could've been a 100-200 reviews first year type of game had he gotten some momentum for it
>>501586149Can easily tell it's AI slop from the thumbnail
>>501586358It isn't. The patreon is right there.
>>501586149Very few games turn it around with updates. It might work for those that sell some with their EA and then continue to improve it until 1.0 and get proper traction then but that sort of model only works for some types of games.I think for a game to be worth updating you gotta see that there's at least a small audience that really likes it and wants to see more of it.>There are plenty of hugely successful devs that didn't make a profit in their first, second or even third game.This would be more accurate. But even still I think there are steps you can take to try and make your first game sell even just a bit. It makes no sense to release it in Steam with zero effort to market it like so many here have done.
Thoughts on synthwave?
>>501586564You are correct.For initial momentum, you need an audience. I think YouTube streamers are probably the most powerful marketing tool you can use for an indie game, but I don't think paying streamers to play it is a wise investment for an indie. You need to reach out to streamers, share your game and demo, and let it grow organically from there. A huge part of this is having a quality game with a strong hook.
>>501586943hotline miami was elevated by it
>>501586457lol hes a known tracer and now ai user, good for him tho fuck paypigs
>>501587009>You need to reach out to streamers, share your game and demo, and let it grow organically from there. It does seem like the meta now is to get your demo on Steam early to get people playing it and wishlisting.>A huge part of this is having a quality gameThis. Of course the demo also needs to be good. It can have rough edges but the core needs to be something that allows people to see the potential and leave them wanting for more.
>ngmi nigga thinks the problem is marketing and not making bad games by junior gamedesigners that have no vision in a saturated marketlol
>>501587464Your "vision" doesn't help if nobody knows about your geme existing.
>>501587534If you publish a free demo, people will know your game exists.
>>501587578I have three free demo games listed on my website for free right now, go play one.
Bath adventures with a final touch: https://webmshare.com/play/YwGP0Alt link: https://files.catbox.moe/f8t69s.webm
>>501587645No, because your demos are clearly bad if no one has recommended them to me.
>>501587787You should kill yourself NOW.
>>501587787How do you know you haven't played and enjoyed all the games I've worked on, anon? I wouldn't be surprised if you had.
There is no such thing as a discoverability problem. My completely shadow dropped itch demo got 5 browser plays. My completely shadow dropped Steam demo got 10 downloads. The fact that I didn't get anymore only means that I failed to make a good game and need to find a better idea.
>>501587534there is a difference between never publishing your game and doing "marketing", you don't need to play the social media game or youtuber game if you have a good gameyomih, vampire survivors, etc did 0 marketing and exploded based on demos, marketing is for games with publishers don't waste your time
Just make a good game, itch staff handpicks demos and steam has reviews for demos now you don't need to spend a single second doing "marketing" if you make a good game.
I can't even make a good music, art nor animation, let alone a good game.
>>501588794Everyone on agdg obsesses with marketing because none of them have the guts to just admit that their game sucks.
>>501588794but my game isn't that good... I need to find an audience that truly wants "shorter games with worse graphics" and marketing will help connect my game to them
>>501582240He only used tags in 3 posts too so where does the traffic come from?
>>501589856Word of mouth. He made a genuinely good game that people wanted to show off to others.
Anyone who attaches whores pictures to their posts is 100% a /v/ermin and their "advice" can simply be ignored.
>>501589856He paid Twitter, duh
My new strategy for self motivation to make progress: Tricking myself into delusion.>My game will sell millions be a big hit>My game will revolutionize the gaming industry.>My game will make me a billionaire.>My game will create a paradigm shift in the world.
>>501590389Good. make sure you wind down and haven't got stuck in that mindset when it fails and kills your spirit.
>>501588794But how would someone from itch curate thousands of games every minute?
Day 9 progress of my skitzo shmup platformerI took a quick 6 month break between day 8 and 9 to recover my energy.
https://x.com/clemmygames/status/1854903601774186752My game will be there one day
good fucking morning neets, time to dev
>>501588794itch staff never handpicked pogo3d
>>501591354That was a funny tweet.
>>501580017yaay!
I finally figured out how Auto Rig Pro works, I will play around with it tomorrow.
>>501589806when you lack the visuals you gotta make a game that's so good people are excited to tell other people about it
>>5015735431 dollar range price
>>501573142That agdg posting "soul" means nothing, and that may be a form of crabbing
>>501594917all it means is your graphics/textures are aliased.
is it a bad idea to make sex animations ONLY using IK and code? right now im having problems with saving all the changes i make during playmode in unity. whats nice about making an nsfw game is getting to write scenarios so its a nice break from coding.im doing the animations this way based on convenience right now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/arts/ai-painting-alan-turing-auction.htmli know it's the jew york times but still, grim
>>501595603Just motion capture it using one of those phone apps.
>>501595820>weld a plotter onto a mannequin >profitmoney laundering
>>501595603this is a nontrivial problem that even full studios cannot get right, you just gonna have to live with the jank
>>501578703I was under the impression that /agdg/ is sheltered and are releasing games to middling success because they lack visibility.Turns out plenty of games ARE on twitter already, including marmo, afterlife gladiator, bigguy, aether singularity, yark and others. Now I feel kinda silly.Bottom line - you need to have twitter personality and post about your game on socials to gather following. Clearly, the more juice your game has, the better your reach will be. Still, you can also be more visible to your niche and reach is pretty important to be successful.
>>501579452>400 reviews>still claims it was a flop
>>501596171>this is a nontrivial problem are you referring to the animations or making custom systems to allow me to edit and save play mode data?
Is it possible to make game now without any knowledge of programming but at least some knowledge of scripting?
>>501596956You can make an asset flip, a rpgmaker game or a porn game, anything other than that is not worth making with just scripting
https://x.com/akio_1963/status/1853754950838521871guy who made metal slug is cooking with aseprite
>>501597107I like that it cries every time.
>>501597107lewd
>>501588794Post one (1) good game that flopped due to "marketing"
>>501597431tranime reading comprehension
>>501597008I can do assets I did some shit in blender to add it to New Vegas mod. But what interest me is mario 64 style platformer so it wouldn't need that much works on assets anyway.
>>501596956They are the same thing.
>>501580298>Received positive feedback every DD>100% positive reviews>Floppa"Word of mouth alone will sell games"...
>>501580298DEMO DAY IS NOT REAL LIFE
im looking at my steam library and im suprised how many games i bought just because AND AT FULL PRICE. i have more money than i ever had but rarely do i buy a new game and ive gotten pickier too. is it just me or is everyone like that nowadays? money isnt even an issue its more about time..
If you're making a roguelite please design the upgrade system such that it can't brick your build. I've been playing way too much NIMRODS lately and it has this problem with the weapon parts being RNG and sometimes you just get shit options that kill whatever build you were going for. Your weapon has specific slots (mag, stock, barrel etc.) and picking one in a slot locks you out from the other options. It would be fine if the game had banishes and rerolls as normal but they use an annoying gimmick for it so you can't rely on it when you get shit options.The game's a lot of fun but man it annoys the fuck out of me when it just decides no fun allowed.
>>501598363people actually buy these games? what made you want to play it in the first place?
>>501597107amazing. I hope I still do pixel art at 60.
>>501597107> I’m now in my 60s, so my speed has dropped since my 30s, but I’m not slacking. Since starting Black Finger JET, I’ve been working 19 hours a day. oh no.. he's gonna drop dead like kim jung gi.
>zero sales on Fab since launchwhat the fuck is he thinking? Hopefully, there's going to be a massive black friday sale.
>>501572262>enable continuous collision detection>collision box still has a 0.5% chance to just phase through objectsnande
>>501598409Please understand I have ADHD. It's the perfect genre for me. Flashy lights, juicy effects, the sound of picking up xp pitching up as you get closer to a level, the level itself hitting, the build crafting and relatively brains-off gameplay. These sorts of games are like drugs for people with ADHD. I am also working on a roguelite of my own but it's not a bullet heaven.
>>501598679Sellers are saying no one has been invited to a black Friday sale
>>501598634>>501597107he needs to make it a roguelite or something because it will fall badly. the dude is living in the past.
>>501582801Sexo. Give her fur and make her sit on human men.
>>501598694i guess we have different kind of adgd then. I prefer constant action like deadlink but to each his own. the game you linked also could use more juice though.
>>501597964I think it's a good game compared to other aggy games. It's no Ultrakill but it's still fun. The issue with demoday and steam reception inconsistency, is that everyone on DD has a compelling reason to actually try out a game on demo day, whereas that's not the case with people on Steam. A random demo is only competing with 50 others demos on DemoDay whereas on Steam with thousands of other games AND it has a price. Your game can be "decent fun", but if it doesn't have a "holy shit check this out dude" element, it won't go viral by itself unless you luck out on the Streamer roulette. (i.e. unique setting, coombaiting, incest baiting in the coffin game, multiplayer hook and ERPing in webfishing, etc. )
>>501598634It's cool, he's used to it.
>>501598689Do a boxcast
>>501598754He doesn't need to do shit it's a commissioned game for a Muslim prince who grew up playing snk games
>>501598963I literally sleep under my desk, it's comfy
JUSTADDCOOP
>>501598754cuphead did ok
>>501598834I do like FPS and TPS but the high speed ones are exhausting to play a bunch. Bullet heavens are the sort of thing I can keep going at for hours and I don't even notice it. I'm big into orblikes and bullet heavens hit a lot of the same notes but the experience is more condensed. Orblikes tend to lose their ADHD magic a bit once levels slow down and you're stuck looking for extremely rare loot while in roguelites that next upgrade is always around the corner.
>>501598689godot 5 will fix that
>>501598965How can I do this? I cant find info on it
ore dekehenwa
https://x.com/JUNpng_spdr/status/1855139005308060007Your competition tranime sister
>>501598963kim jung gi was used to it too...
>>501598850>art is almost repulsive>gameplay has nothing to stand it out from a crowd >doom clones is an inflated genre, doom clones roguelike has better games in the form of free wads>its main character is nothing>no story pull, or setup >no marketing
>>501599363shindoi
How are these usually fixed? All the information online seems to be outdated.
>>501599363>>501599935ywnbj
You're insane if you think that games like marmoreal can be saved by marketing
>>501572418>>501572696Wait for the next demo day?
>>501599582that doesn't look as good as you think it doest.ranime sister
>>501600029umare mo sodachi mo kanto
>>501600047nobody said that
>>501600047It's a cope. devs that thought marmo, and other games like it were going to have any kind of success don't see reality for what it is. You can cheer for a game, but if you are not able to have a feel for the market, maybe you should shut up on the matter.Cheering a game with "of course you can get 200 reviews!" can be very harmful
>>501600559チヌご チョヌご
i get horny from reading my own porn game dialogue
>>501601006チンチン電車
https://youtu.be/cvA8nU9nDXE?si=BNG-H-JusUHnlsjy>/agdg/ can't make a game better than this
>>501600889I thought it would get 50 reviews... there's still a chance...
>>501601597you have to be 18+ to post here
can someone kindly point me to the proper general for my h-game? i need to know what people prefer for their mc.
How do I learn how to make pixel art bros?
>>501602071practice
>>501602071all you need is a mouse an a 32x32 canvas bro
why do retards always claim than doing speedrun for making assets is wrong or weird?
>>501602071Learn real art first.
>>501602232pixel art is easier
>>501602038either faceless male using his mid management position to harass women (imperial gatekeeper, hhs+) (inb4 I don't care neither of those have mid management positions)or girl
>>501602312good pixel artists can draw its a limitation not a crutch
>>501602312Not if anon wants to make it look good.
>>501602349good ones sure
>>501602335my mc is a futa with a mysterious background. xhe doesnt even know that xhe is a futa!
>>501597964I didn't like the arenas in it, I felt that Cult of Damaskus levels were much more fun, but Cosmic was focusing on roguelite elements like in BoI (which I also despise). He didn't listen to me when I was hinting that maybe level design could be better but then again I wasn't his target audience too.
Just woke up.Just realized that my workflow doesnt need a complex model.If I'm projecting a texture into a low poly mesh that happens to be unshaded, then a cubic ball should easily represent the same as a more complex mesh if in the end I'm gonna do paintover.
>>501602837>If I'm projecting a texture into a low poly mesh that happens to be unshadedI really hope you're not cris because doing texture painting on an emissive (i.e. unshaded) shader IS LITERALLY THE DEFAULT WORKFLOW for **every** mobile game
>>501601597Russians are terrible at hiding their propaganda, anyone with a brain can spot it immediately.Key giveaways that something is made by a Russian shill:>Broken English>Obsession with Ukraine and NATO (nobody else outside Russia cares about either of these) and use of the term "Ukrop" (literally a Russian word)>Simultaneously claiming that Ukrainians are Nazis and globohomo - even though the literal protagonist of the game is meant to be a Nazi, classic Soviet doublethink>Most obviously, many nations in Europe and Asia being caricatured, but Russia being mysteriously absent for the whole game
>>501602071copy sprites you like pixel by pixel. it gives you some foundations, you pick up on common solutions to problems etc. afterwards try to make your own remembering some of those solutions.
>>501602987>mobile gameit's literally every game with hand-painted textures
>>501602202good things take time. non-retard here btw.
>>501600047Let's have a discussion - which games CAN be saved by marketing? Which games can't make it even with marketing?Which games gonna make it with little to no marketing?
>>501597107So japanese use aseprite
>>501603178weebs will use anything as long as a highly skill jap also uses it
>>501602987>>501603121yeah, but the thing is to overpaint the render by hand to fix issues and make it look 2D.
>>501602202I'm gonna be real with you Christopher, probably for the first time since I came to this general.The absolute best way to get a good workflow, is to first finish something the rough, slow and hard way. You don't know what you actually need, and how long it takes to make it and polish it until you actually "finish" it to a degree you find acceptable to put a price tag on and show it to the world.You want to find a shortcut to a place whose location you don't actually know. First get there by foot the slow way and then you can look for shortcuts.
>>501603161yeah, but diferent methods can have diferent baking times.Some methods are much faster than others.>>501603386I spent 5 days doing that.I did my experiment the slow and hard way.And I realized I'm doing some weird photoshop where I'm riggind my 2D painting into a mesh.Like a more complex version of a cutout rig.
>>501603340that's just Mega-Man Legends workflow
>>501603174>which games CAN be saved by marketing?Any good game if it has a pre established audience that will buy indie in that genre. >Which games can't make it even with marketing?Games with programmer art, too experimental, and bad games with bugs/no polish, overpriced games>Which games gonna make it with little to no marketing?Fetish porn like furry, inflation, ntr and porn overall
>>501603535that's a 3D game.I mean 2D HD assets.
>>501603174>which games CAN be saved by marketing?games with "a crumb" of appeal>Which games can't make it even with marketing?ascii art game that isn't dwarf fortress>Which games gonna make it with little to no marketing?trans and furry games
Are there any games with hand drawn art that were put into a pixel art converter? I can do hand drawn but pixel arts hard for me, especially for backgrounds
>>501603791post an example>>501603949every arcade game
>>501603949why are you guys so obsessed with pixelartit just looks bad
>>501603449>yeah, but diferent methods can have diferent baking times.>Some methods are much faster than others.sure, learning to do something well takes time. practicing one method makes you faster at that method too. stick to one process long enough and you become a speed demon.
>>501603949you can low poly with pixel art textures.>>501603979here.>>501604068kind of right.The thing is to do experiments and compare times to see if a method is faster.It's like doing science but for art.
do not make a jrpg
>>501603979>every arcade gamethey drew the art on grid paper and then entered the pixel coordinates with a keyboard. insane.
>>501604154>The thing is to do experiments and compare times to see if a method is faster.>It's like doing science but for art.following a common industry workflow is fine, they already 'did the science'.
even pixelshart SHMUPs have high quality concept art how can you even compete?
>>501603949pc-98 games i think
>>501604312>posts promotional artwhoops
>>501604274some paths are not explored by the industry, like the optimal pixel art with 3D path.
>>501604589why would an arcade game need a promotional art booklet?
>>501603728>>501603903Right, now classify games from DD that would fit into categories you've established
>>501603949I do the lines on paper but scan them to pc to adjust colors and add dithering. By the way, I use actual PC-98 software and I have to convert my file to mag file format for PC-98 software to read it. I will show progress soon, with CG.
whats a safe place to upload my raunchy h-game dialogue? i dont want it on github with the cod for my game. its worth more than gold!
>>501604628that's from the art book. that art was made after the game was done.
>>501604687pretty much every DD game is going to have appeal since that's literally all /agdg/ cares about. indies are notorious for style over substance, they make empty games.
I mean, nigrotachis.If I'm gonna do paintover.Why I can't save the texturing step by using a toon shader then simply output the base render frame using simple toon shaders.That way I save the texturing step.
>>501605327that's the best part, you canwill you? now that's the real question.
>>501605327>>501605464No, is not the best approach.I will be basically be remaking the texturing step when the paintover happens.
>>501605567post your workflow
>>501572328Wtf is an Alchad
>>501605727Ai Uehara enjoyers
>>501572401Now let's see the lerp over PI
>>501605727>Al-ChadA Chad who converted to Islam I presume.
>>501605842keked
>feel forced to quit bad habit>feeling of doom and loss>feel like in a void of nothingness>2 days later>start to notice how i feel better>start to realize that the bad feeling was about losing the habit, not actually life getting worse>start to realize that it took some pain first to heal
>>501605727Chad is a third world country in Africa. Most AI enthusiasts are third worlders
Need to use AI.I can't get the speed I want with traditional hand made methods.They're simply too ineficient.
>>501606116Glad you got over your bochi posting addiction
>>501606179Asset stores already exist. AI isn't solving a real problem
>>501606364ok rasheed.
>>501606364>just consoom, buy stuff, spend moneyI'm not even into ai but you are retarded
>>501606179kill urself cris
>>501606482>AI user trying to calling someone else indianThis is like when a leftoid tries to call someone else a snowflake. Your insults are as hollow as your AI generated assets
>>501606554there is enough free on fab to make a whole AAAA game
>>501606625there's a diference between a basic prompt like brown rajeets do, and something that is closer to how a traditional artist do, which involves art fundamentals and concept art skills.
>>501606554There are free assets, timmy gives you free assets every 2 weeks now. If AI ever gets good you'll have to pay for that too because these startups are billions of dollars in the hole to investors and you are their prospective customers and source of income. They give it to you for free because it's mostly useless and they want you to become dependent on it so you will pay in the future
give a man a fish and he'll thank you for a day.give a tranny artist an artificial intelligence that'll catch fish for him and he'll bitch and complain about it for a lifetime.
>>501606770>but what if made up scenario
My game on steam have 97% positive reviews, but a 12% return rate. How is that even possible? Anyone experienced something similar?
>>50160703812% is pretty normal
cris won.
day 3 of raw food diet, tension in my body is starting to drop, stomach pain is fading away. liver pain is reducing. finally feel more chill.last time i did this many years ago it made me so healthy that i built my own online business. until i got too lazy again and ate like shit and it all broke apart.maybe i can recover my life. just trying to find ways to make it last forever this time. i'll probably add some cooked eggs, some cooked chicken drumsticks, fish etc. - last time i went completely raw vegan. this time i'll try raw + "pure" cooked food.the withdrawal is insane, but i'm tired of living in existential fear anymore, it's not worth to sacrifice peace of mind for some tastebud orgasms anymore.
>>501606905The made up scenario is where AI actually becomes useful. Your made up scenario is US tech companies are going to take in billions of dollars in investment and then make a product they'll just give to you for free forever. What a grand intoxicating innocence. How can you be so naive?
>>501607071Some light googling gave me the impression the percentage usually is much lower.I'm afraid big daddy gabe will punish me if I have to many returns.
>>501607269tl;drnot your blog faggot
>>501607038is it short?
i will make sure to not reply to gamers, not to have a social media account, not to ever reveal my identity. ofc this will hurt marketing and sales. i know. but i just hate how much meta there is about games. and i want mine to be different. i also wont post changelogs.why? IT BREAKS IMMERSION.like, imagine you going through real life and seeing some fat nerd with glasses in the air talking to you why he implemented features into your life. like, wtf?
>>501607038it's ok path of achra dev, not all games are for all gamers
>>501607269Day 5 of no poop July
I've switched to unity and I already see that godot has>better documentation than unity>faster editor than unity>better UI than unity>better loicence than unity
why is making a porn game so fun? i get to be horny all the time and make scenarios that i always had in my head!
GOAThttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1788560/Dream_Of_The_Hikikomori/
>>501607771my core issue with godot is that its not built around c#, everything else doesn't matter to me.and i'm not gonna use work in progress features in 2024. you cant get people with work in progress stuff anymore in 2024.
>>501581990there's a guy who streamed pretty much all aggy gamespost game or fuck off
>game goes viral>20 members in the discordgrim
>>501608113nta but why? I'd get enginedevving in cpp but why do you fanboy c#
>>501608305because c# is the most complete scripting language there is, so why would i use anything inferior?
>>501608268Which Game?
>>501607771>better documentation than unitylying faggot
>>501608113gdscript is easier to write and less verbose than C#
>>501603047>>>/pol/
>>501608441not mine but https://store.steampowered.com/app/2470790/Inferius/>can I get this game for free? ~Guyhttps://www.reddit.com/r/comedyheaven/comments/1gmkws9/do_not_test/ 28k updootsshame the game name was cropped from the screenshot.
>easier to writeFuck this shit, I'm moving to the /g/ general
>>501608553>must carefully indent your codekek
>>501608553whatever floats your boat i guess, but don't bother me with your bad opinions, keep them to yourself
>>501608763>>501608794no counterargument.lol.
>>501608113>my core issue with godot is that its not built around c#, everything else doesn't matter to me.Ok then go use Monogame and see how you feel, enjoy writing your own camera and having monogame-specific vector and matrix types that aren't interoperable with anything else in the C# ecosystem because it was developed before C# had system.numerics>and i'm not gonna use work in progress features in 2024Not going to use Unity either then? Everything in that engine is either deprecated or a half-baked feature that is objectively worse than the thing it's supposed to be replacing. And it's still on C# 9
>>501608683never come back faggot
>>501608553>>501608763I'm now convinced you are both falseflagging for the other engine
>>501607771godot 5 will fix that
>>501607771>better documentation than unityhow people like you exist always baffles me
>>501608671poor dev
holy shit anti-unity shills are like liberals trying to convince me not to vote trump.at least they can't stop me lol.
>>501608842>deboonked>n-n-o..I'm gonna cum
wtf I just want to make video games
>>501608671the question is whether or not this was actually the devs way of marketing their game. thats some next level shit.
>>501608268>discordwho cares
>>501608268It's even funnier when you have a discord full of people and no one buys and reviews your gameThe butthurt will be legendary when that game releases and gets less than 100 reviews in a month
>>501609460Book name?
Is the size of a game’s discord a good indication of sales?
Reminder that no gamedev of note got a girlfriend AFTER his game made it. If you couldn't get one before, you won't get one after.A successful game won't fix whatever's fundamentally wrong with you that you reached adulthood still a virgin.
>>501603949Why would you do that? Why not just use the hand-drawn art?
>You shouldn't try to cheapen your art production without making it pajeet asset slop or AI jeet wareIsn't funny how all the guys making the "I'm putting effort into my art" are always making le 32x32 sprites or le retro low poly with free textures.com ?
>>501609654gaming and videogame development are the perfect strategies to keep beta males completely quarantined from the breeding population, if you think about it. in the past they would have been culled in wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rj_MF6_hDMif your in it for the money do shorts instead
>>501609584
>>501609848and porn and porn games (which im making)
>>501609513idk I was looking for a metric of followers/interest etc. his twitter has 90 followers
>>501609941m8, are you writing an operating system to run your game on?
Good morning devfriends!!Let's all be productive today!
>>501609684Im good at making pixel art sprites but good looking backgrounds are too hard. Ideally I want the dkc look but I cant be fucked to learn 3d modelling
Reminder to laugh at the suicidal fagtroon when he pokes his nose here again>>/adv/32275573
Progress:Making breakfastCoffee eggs and toast
>>501610697Fuck, messed up the reply>>>/adv/32275573
>>501610357Today I WILL finish my battle system. Or at least the base of it.
>>501603047>Russians are terrible at hiding their propaganda, anyone with a brain can spot it immediately.>Key giveaways that something is made by a Russian shill:>Broken English>Obsession with Ukraine and NATO (nobody else outside Russia cares about either of these) and use of the term "Ukrop" (literally a Russian word)>Simultaneously claiming that Ukrainians are Nazis and globohomo - even though the literal protagonist of the game is meant to be a Nazi, classic Soviet doublethink>Most obviously, many nations in Europe and Asia being caricatured, but Russia being mysteriously absent for the whole game
Remember to be your authentic self and never settle for compromises.
>>501609941There's *maybe* 100 pages in there that apply to usermode development on consumer CPUs.
An argument to make against the use of AI is that anyone who took their work seriously has preferences that may never be met with a machine doing random calculations.At least with a human artist, you can communicate and get across a certain point.It depends on how invested or idealistic you are with your own work.A sense of "auteurship".But a lot of people don't have specific interests or preferences anymore.Maybe the amount of people that use AI correlates and even complements the amout of people against AI.
>>501611673Please just make a game and stop worrying about what third worlders think
>>501608671TOP DOWNRETROROGUELIKESOULSLIKEBULLET HEAVENDECKBUILDER
he's getting smarter
>>501611673It's probably easier to get what you want from AI then working with an artist. Unless you're rich and work with the artist on the same location and can REALLY get across what you want. Otherwise it's a long back and forth and compromise. With AI you keep chipping away.Anyway, AI is a tool. There's no argument for or against that matters. You're a fucking faggot for putting chains on yourself for no reason. Pleb mindset.
>>501611797>enemies can t-bag you
>>501611747This comment was 100% left on a video by one of those youtubers who panders to the 14 year old /v/ poster crowd
My stamina is completely destroyed after 5-6 days of doing an HD 2D animation.I can't do that method.It emotionally destroys me.
>>501611747I love deckbuilders, I'm not good enough at programming to make one though. I've heard it's really hard.
any suggestions on where i should backup my h-game dialogue? github is not an option.
deckbuilders are unironically one of the very few ways to make engaging turn based combat
>>501612160I haven't played one. But it's probably not that hard to program. Thinking about the game is probably harder. All the rules. What separates it from others. What makes it fun. What's hard about holding a deck of cards and randomizing order? But I haven't played it. I'm assuming chatgpt could write it though.
>>501580923how do i get jerb?30 yo btw
>deckbuilderhttps://youtu.be/j-5BaEoSU8Y
Zhun is 47 years oldCris is 35Let that sink in
>>501612160Same. It's just a genre.>sees FPS number 118151>fine>sees a roguelike or deckbuilder>REEEEEEEEEE I HATE ROGUELIKES THAT DEV SHOULD KILL THEMSELVES
TOTALINCEL CIRCLEDEATH
>>501612103just like make game, my pear.just like make game
>>501612595I need to take the day off.I'm totally burned out.
>>501612449getting it up and running requires minimal programming skill, getting 100+ cards with interesting effects and enemy variety, tweaks/bug fixing due to all the unanticipated interactions etc takes a lot of work(if you are not copying other games directly)
>>5015722621) Added weapon blocking if you have a melee weapon in your main hand (except knuckles) and nothing in the other hand or a trinket.2) Added a new perk “Battle Master”, it increases a bit of defense and increases efficiency for characters with two weapons or one weapon without a shield.-=/wsg/ links=-webm 1: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1731160524231377.webmwebm 2 (shitty quality, not full): https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1731160591737655.webm-=alt links=-webm 1 alt link (9MB): https://webmshare.com/ZJXwqwebm 2 alt link (14MB):https://webmshare.com/DWmNj
>>501613037This could be good if the art wasn't complete shit.
>>501613037Here is a new perk details.
>>501612995Right. Creating a complex system of rules is hard. But that's separate from programming. That applies to physical card games like Magic. It's like not having a destination before setting out, and then being like, man, sailing is hard!
>mc for game is a futashould I have allow my mc to talk or do you prefer having a 3rd person describing how they feel? I have a scene with a snake and snake pussy feels so good that i need for the mc to describe the immense pleasure. im not memeing im serious.
>>501612303this. all the hate comes from npc contrarians who hate any popular thing.
>>501613250deckbuilders are definitely played out and exhausted though. were currently in the trend of dicebuilders or things involving gambling i call them gamblikes
>>501613037>>501613196INCEL CIRCLE SLOP
>>501613404You have any data to back this up.
>>501613695balatro dice and dungeons and much more, dicebuilders arent a huge hit but there were a few so far that ranged 800-2k reviews
>>501613037this nigga literally saw indie games from 2012 and was like "yeah we cookin"
>>501613404I think the STS format of 2d puppet rigged dude on the left and enemies on the right that wiggle the sprite to attack etc is played out. the game that started this convo (inferius) doesn't look at all like that tho.
>>501613037surprised you didnt have blocking in before
>>501613786No, that deckbuilders don't sell.
reminder it's actually over this time.
i have project hopitis... its terminal... *cough cough* sayonara minna...
im actually serious about making this porn game which general would be a good place to talk about scenarios and stuff?
>>501613037Is the update out officially yet? I didn't get anything on Steam.
>>501613225Gameplay?
>>501614048mata ai mashou...doko ka de
>>501614159a primitive turn based battle system but theres gameplay in some scenes involving player input
today I start my World of Horror clone. I will be the first aggylike developer.
>>501614048oвapи дa...
>>501614330I just remembered auradev's "my special place is itching" screenshot, so I guess first person works just fine?
>>501614117Nah, it will be deployed with the next monthly update somewhen near the end of this month.
>>501614048I am not an abandoner of projects. I am a liberator of them!The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that project hopping, for lack of a better word, is good. Project hopping is right, project hopping works. Project hopping clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary creative spirit. Project hopping in all of its forms. Project hopping from RPGs to RTSs, from 2D to 3D, from Godot to Unity, has marked the upward surge of dev activity, and project hopping – you mark my words – will not only save my game, but that other malfunctioning project called A.G.D.G.Thank you very much.
my game has deckbuilding/card combat... but it's not a deckbuilder in spirit, it's an adventure...
So far I've been programming on weekends my RPG. Progress is going good. I hope within like, 7 months to have a preview and a steam page. During the week I work. I typically don't work on the rpg after work because I get burnt out. I was thinking after work I might try to make a business simulation just for fun. No stress. Code is easy. You play a small business owner and through investment you take over an industry. I could probably make the game in like, 3 months. I might do it. Otherwise I have to wait like 3 years to release a game. Might do it just for practice. Getting a steam page up. Showing it off at next fest. Polishing a game. Launching a game. It'll be 100 more simple than the RPG. Might teach me some lessons. It'll all be spread sheets basically. Maybe a small world to walk around in for story purposes. I currently just rewrote my save system to handle complex data storage. Polymorphism. I'm procrastinating by posting here. I'm scared to hit save. I'm going to be debugging all day.If I make this game I could actually join a Demo Day.
>>501614693imagine a game... that isn't a deckbuilding card game, but you can collect cards and build a deck and play with it in the games world...
>>501614627You must be young. As a 30+ project hopper with zero releases, I just gotta finish this one, no more hopping, only prototype hopping after this.
Gamedev is too hard and tedious. Maybe I should get into tabletop dev.
>>501614808FF9 did this. I enjoyed it overall, even though I never understood it. Like, why one card beat another card. But I collected them all.
does AGDG sound good ?
>>501614846>I just gotta finish this oneBut what if "this one" was already too overscoped from its conception? Maybe you should abandon it so you can work on this better, smaller scope idea that came up to you some days ago that you can actually finish in time...
im just gonna copy a game from my childhood almost line for line of code and feature (but cut a lot of content)
>>501607771But does the game run better than unity?The answer is no, because godots architecture is inherently retarded. It's easy to work with until you try making anything complicated and then you're left trying to work around the node system.
>>501614856opinions on Terra Nova?
>>501615068>But what if "this one" was already too overscoped from its conception?It was not overscoped initially, but I didn't take into account how autistic I would get about all the details.
>>501615295what is this node system I hear about, why does it draw ire? (long time unity user)
>>501615438Too complicated. Tabletop games should be all about simplicity and pure fun through mechanics.
it takes a village (100 players revamp of it takes two)
i miss her so much, bros...
>open agdg>300 new replies>scroll down with page down>0 noticeable progress>took barely 15 secbest way to browse this threadsee you in another half a dayhopefully there will be some progress this time
it's hard to let go, but we gotta keep moving
No one is buying your deck builder oil bro, making interesting card synergies is extremely hard
>>501615870I'm glad that smelly trannoid is gone
>>501615902Where's your progress BITCH
>>501615619Half baked component system that can't decide how it's supposed to be structured. Everything in default Godot is a hierarchy of components, like a 3D object is a component within a scene, the 3D object has children components like physics collision or skeletal mesh and those then have their own components like collision shapes etc. The overheard for all the redundant shit in each component adds up since they all inherit from like 10 different classes in a hierarchy starting with the base 3D node class.
>>501598965please someone tell me how to do this im gmi if I learn
>>501615509That means it's overscoped.
>>501615902I thought zoomers were supposed to be good at scrolling?>>501572401>>501578257>>501584369>>501611797>>501613037
>>501616224Nodes have no runtime overhead.
I just learned that you can bake your render setting into a texture you can use later as normal map or difusse.And then you can bake, then edit in Krita and save that way, days of work.I do feel I've discovered like an entire new branch of 3D art autismo.wtf
>>501615870ugly ass owl. Good riddance.
why not java?
>>501616224retard
>>501607771>better documentation than unity
my masters thesis takes priority over gamedev
>>501616576donde consigo novia nerd que le gusten los jueguitos? eventos putakus?
>>501610697>>501610961Rent free.
>>501617112>Me and some tranny I have never met outside of the internetPlease leave the internet and don't return until you crush some puss.
>>501609196>>501616969In general, I find that more experienced software engineers think Godot's docs are betters, and more beginner gamedevs think Unity's docs are better.
>>501617251yes nigga.
>>501610961>fagroon posts in /adv/confirmed woman
Good morning.
>>501617605kill yourself tranime
Difficulty slider, now let redo the tutorial for the new ui.
For me that fear to try, started as I got older, but not because of what others might think, but because of time. Let's take gamedev for example. I started getting into it when I had a fulltime job, then shortly after a wife and kids. So I have very little time. Which means when I want to make something, I want it to be good. Not knowing how to make something means either trying or learning, two things that take additional time. Now there is a chance that it takes too much of that, or I don't understand it immediately or it's not good enough the first try, which gives me some sort of anxiety which is absolutely not necessary, but it is there because I think "How can I handle all that, I will never be able to finish the project" So sometimes I just do other stuff or procrastinate which is the peak of stupidity. Also the fact that most of what I do, I really like it first try and if not, it feels like a failure AND "wasted time". I remember when I was a teen and played around with RPG Maker. Just opening projects and trying, playing around with it and learning at the same time. I got so good at it...Nowadays this feels like a luxury. I need a proper tutorial first, I need to know exactly how it should be, I need to know 100% how it could be done before I even try.I just started to get comfortable with that fact, when I just sat down and really put together how much time was actually wasted by doing exactly the things above (especially procrastination by searching for the right tutorials or "inspiration"). Would I have just enjoyed the process and played around, would have been curious like I was as a teen or child, it would have been much more productive. So the dream is to be able to make it full time, but on the other hand it's a luxury to have a very good and stable job and a family to spend time with and do this on the side. Enjoy the way and don't only think about the finish line.
>>501616275Could mean that, but in my case I redid stuff 100 times that would have been fine from version 2 of that thing. when it's finished people will say x years for this?
>>501617256you really upset the pedos kek
>>501617670Nyo
Juan hates C# yet promised to make it Godot's main language, curious..
>>501618083>Juan hates C#Yes, every Godot dev does.>promised to make it Godot's main language[citation required]
>weekend /agdg/
>>501617828the older i get, the more i think that growing up is about learning how to be a child again
>>501618264Half of those dudes in the comic should be women. I hate how women always insert themselves into male-dominant hobbies, contribute nothing of value, and only exist to stir up shit.
>it ban evaded again
>>501618645>implying there are biological women here
there are so many tools now that i have no excuse
>>501618707Bro, I know, right? Cris is a menace and must be banned.
>>501618748Yes. There are several. The secret as to why /agdg/ has gone down the gutter over the years is that more and more bio women are participating in the hobby.
>>501618264
>>501618645are these women in the room with us right now
>>501618962>There are several.doubtful. name them
>>501618998my gf is lying behind me on the couch wearing nothing but my hoodie right now, so yeah
>>501618987>amateur game developers stroking their cocks
>>501617927I don't think I've ever seen a single lolidev interact with him
can i have some motivation..,
>>501618962are they single?
holy fuck guise, /adv is so funny
>>501619245What kind of game are you making?
>>501619426nothing right now, i walljumped off a project and now im driftig in empty space...
>>501619019Fagroon, 40 to 60 schizo, and femcris are the more annoying ones. There's a few other mostly harmless ones.
>>501619426https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUJE10XEjrU
>>501619530Same
>>501619530I see. maybe you need some time to charge up your creativity. Go to the library, a museum, go for a walk in the woods etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioQC2nULXdki know you hate on this guy but i feel bad for him. he sold his hecking house while married with a kid. that woman he has beside him is a trooper for such a dumb decision, she deserves better.
>>501620410oh it's the sasquatch guy. yeah. don't do this unless you are super talented in one area.
>>501619245Yes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s
>>501615870most soulful era of aggydaggywe were blessed
>>501578703this is proof that "sovl" and ""fun"" ultimately mean nothing and that AI hentai game chads will inherit this fakedev earththis alone has more reviews than every inner circle flop released in the past 3 months
>>501619541>femcriskek, who is that ?
What mouse are you lot using? my middle click has given up the ghost.
>>501621146.t someone who wasn't here in 2015
>>501621146i liked cause she kept the shitposters in check with her janny powers. including me
>>501621242https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Impact-Buttons-Precision-Programmable/dp/B07HC4NBQ8
>>501621146>>501621269>>501621301seriously tho can anyone explain why that era (2020-2022) was so orderly immediately following the end of the crumble troubles and immediately preceding the arrival of osur. It was a magical time that we took for granted and that I can't explain. How was /agdg/ so productive? Was it because trainwiz was here?
>>501621507nigger did you seriously just equate crumble to osur?
>>501621175me.
are you really too lazy to dev, or are you just not excited enough and fully indulging yourself in making your dream game?e.g. i could play competitive games all day cause they easily motivate me. so i can't be lazy (lazy as in not enough energy to do something).actually it's hard to find a big motivator to make a game.that's why i kinda hate all the doomers here, because they work effectively against you. sometimes i wonder if they are ubisoft/ea shills or so who try to stop indies from entering the market.
>>501621507Trainwiz leaving has definitely had a negative impact on on topic progress posting.
>>501621507>/agdg/ so productiveName one produced during this time that made it. (YOMIH doesn't count because he made it precisely because he left the thread during its development.)
>>501621640They are basically the same. A cancer by another name is still a cancer
>>501621640it's the inner circle schizo. he has a hateboner for osur for some reason. on par with cumball's hateboner for trainwiz. it's just simple jealousy more than anything
>>501619245Here, take this
>>501621735Pogo3DThe Greatest Penguin Heist of All TimeWorld of HorrorDeadeye Deepfake SimulacrumDevil SpireAutomon (a bit)Peripeteia (pending)Underspacedon't sit there and pretend it wasn't a more productive time
>>501621851Cumballs hate boner is legit gay feelings though?
>>501621735umurangi generation?
sending bad vibes to all devs in this thread
>>501621851osur killed /agdg/ and that is an already proven fact. Anyone who denies this is a mole who doesn't actually care about /agdg/ and is fine with seeing it die
that's a boy
>>501622242Tomo leaving is what killed agdg, you disingenuous clown.
>>501622242how so? (I'm a 2024 new entrant)
>>501622162Good luck getting your bad vibes through the power of Christ.
yup I'm thinking osur = crumble
>crumble needs a new targetsad
godot 4.3 didn't fix a damn thing! i still don't have a freaking game!!!!!
>>501622346>>501622348much like crumble and ronny redpill before him, ToKdev was trying to make this general less about games and more about celebrity status. He only associates with "popular devs" and never talks about or plays the games of "unpopular devs". Also because Tomo was working for him for free for a while everyone just decided that ToKdev is the new law of /agdg/ and started a cult around him. Now, the mainstream narrative dictates that the top games of DD are segregated from the middle and bottom games (this never used to be the case prior to the DD 30-40 period)Basically the current generation of developers created an environment of division and a made up caste system that never existed in any solid form prior to this
>>501622789Are you a woman?
>>501622348i'm not 100% sure, but from circumstancial evidence i'd say:1) crumble had a big fight years ago with many devs, including underspace dev2) he has been seething about it ever since3) underspace dev abandoned the thread after releasing his game4) now that he can't target him anymore, crumble switched to schizoing daily about tokdev ever since.either that, or it's all bokusimp schizoing about a new random dev every day
>>501622930It's amazing the extent to which you will craft elaborate headcanons just to ignore the elephant in the room (osur destroyed agdg culture)
>>501622298proof?
>>501622903i'm a different anon, but i'm also a woman, the woman of agdg in fact haha, and i just had a game ideaimagine a military game, but if it was actually a yaoi, it feels like nobody has done this
>>501623119osur likes my tweets and gives good feedback, and that's good enough in my bookhe also posts progress in the thread, which you don't
>>501617796>tutorial>uiAKA the final boss for azurdev
>the regime benefits me therefore it's not oppresive
>>501623119i can save agdg culture, if i posted progress i am moving out of artist block, slowly
>>501623139hetalia-like? could work
>>501623395so true comrade
>>501623395If you represent "agdg culture" then I'm glad osur killed it. Unfortunately you're just a schizo nodev retard
>>501617796Also make public relation indicator more noticable, write a sign next to it
>>501623523idk what hetalia is, i guess i mean a final fantasy call of duty like with a femboy protagonist
>>501622001>games in development for 5-7 years in the list >uhm ackthually it was the 2020-2022 period that was productive.You're just a covid tourist, fuck off dude.
>>501623287>>501623503the thing you fail to realize is that you cannot save a place from a cancer without first cutting out the cancer. You don't destroy radicalism by being moderate and balanced. You destroy radicalism by being radical in the opposite direction. Osur and his microcosm of lackeys uphold a celeb-worship culture within /agdg/ that places itch.io rankings above effort - without destroying that you cannot fix /agdg/.Do you remember that thing where men in america decided to stop working and leave society because they get no money or pussy anyway? It's the same thing here. All the yesdevs left because it was no longer about making games and making progress and marveling at the wonder of creation. People saw that and thought "why bother". It's pavlovian reinforcement.>You WILL post progress> *posts progress*>crickets>Marmo comes in and has a spergout sesh>"Marmo how are you!">repeatwhich self-respecting yesdev would fucking tolerate that?This is the entire reason why Tower of Kalemonvo is evil, and Project Landsword is evil, and Cosmic Call is evil. This is the culture they cultivated
>>501623287>he also posts progress in the threadWhen was the last time he did that? Hm?
>>501623994this is so fucking real>nodevs destroy agdg by shitposting>no one tells them to fuck off or replies to progress>wtf why is agdg so shit now?
>>501623994>>All the yesdevs left because it was no longer about making games and making progress>check dev discord>all the yesdevs are there and posting progress>even devs that left years ago are there postingYour response?
>>501624294Tomo isn't there, so i do not care.
>>501624294I'm seeing a lot more spergy bitchfit sessions and a lot less progress. Even holy osur mostly posts inane snarks instead of progress
>>501622789It must be so fun to be a schizoid. Everything is so epic in your head.
how do i join the adgd discord
>>501624578post progress
>>501623994you are still not posting your game THOUGH
>>501624284Telling them to fuck off doesn't work anymore. You can't shame the shameless and if you ignore them they samefag.
trying to pretend like this lineup has any kind of superior qualities or potential is the biggest cope I could ever imagine
>>501624578it's in the description of an old demo day page>>501624714the dd ranking is based on the itch popularity algorhithm, not in the game's quality
>>501624660>explain why it's not worth posting progress anymore>but post progress thoI have put an embargo on my progress until osur is lynched publically for his crimes. Until you join my side there will be a whole lot less progress and a whole lot more activism
>>501624714>don't make the game you want, make the game I want!
>>501624814>the dd ranking is based on the itch popularity algorhithm, not in the game's qualitythank you for missing the point retard lmaowe were just discussing how there are actual real people among us here who think that this magical ranking is the final say on the quality of games.We are surrounded by cultist who jerk off to the itch.io algorithm every night
>>501604390I think they drew over the scans by hand with mouse or something back then and there were no auto converters
>>501623994What a lack of (You)s will do to a nigga>his microcosm of lackeys uphold a celeb-worship culture within /agdg/ that places itch.io rankings above effort I'm sorry but nobody anywhere ever cares about effort. You can put all the effort you want into making a shit game but you still made a shit game and nobody will play it. I don't know if you're a millennial or a zoomer but you seem to be more concerned about having a participation trophy rather than actually making something good. And rather than consider the possibility that you make a shit game that nobody wanted to play you retreat into this schizo delusion about osur and the inner circle. If you publish your game on steam and nobody buys it will that also be osur's fault?
>>501624998nobody ever said that, aside from the itch public itself
>>501625045no faggotrankings =/= quality(You)s =/= qualitysales =/= qualityas long as you keep worshipping some magical number to tell you which games are good and which ones aren't you are not a human being and you clearly aren't forming your own reasoned observations on things, you're just following the flock. Until you learn to think for yourself we have nothing to talk about
>agdg is bad>ok here is how we can save it>nnooooooooooooOOOoooooooOOOOooo how dare you speak against cult daddy osur
Coom devs just keep winning.
Can someone add me to the official discord? I'm making a mazerunner game, my disc is bash2567
>>501625458i am trans btw
>>501625271nobody cares about the ranking, you are the only one mentioning itevery single post mentioning it in this thread is yours
>>501625458lurkmoar
>>501573689wy wre white woys wo weminate?
>>501625570can you post the link then?>>501625550good for you
>>501625271>there is no objective metric that correlates to qualityThis is so convenient for you as all other mediocre devs. It means you are completely unaccountable and no matter what happens to your game you can always retreat into your delusions and cope that your game was actually good but didn't succeed because of some grand conspiracy against you.
>>501625553>n-n-n-nobody is mentioning that t-take your medsyeah except for the 1 gorillion people every single demo day that only keep downloading and clicking and streaming the top 14 games and nothing else and keep shitting on you if you dare call them out and keep telling you to "just make a better game lmao" even though most of the better games are in the middle and low rowsnice gaslighting faggot
>>501625726I will not follow a pedo scalie
>>501625703And false too, there has never been a good game that was bad
>>501625726ok whodev
>>501625725if they don't download in random submission order they only have themselves to blame
i suck cock, what is the best game engine for people like me?
>>501622354>>501622758>>501623395godot 5 will fix that
>>501625873godot
>>501625703there are objective metrics, but they are absolutely definitely NOT some algotoddler number generator designed to bait and hook users for clicks. Games aren't slot machines nor are they tiktoks nor are they SEO-bait scam websites. Good games are good. Marnixcore trash is not good.Fuck Card Artisan and FUCK Solitaire Battle and FUCK Archtower
>>501625458demo day 10 submissions itch, overview
ill post progress if it'll get me an invite to the secret club...
>>501625873
>>501624714The plan is simple, for 1 week everyone in this pic sends emails to ask all the influencers to play Solitaire Battle. And then the next week spams emails for Academia and so on.Now everyone can shill their game without Google's anti-spam in the way.
>>501625831>there has never been a good game that was badYou're incapable of basic logic. Your continued failure is deserved and is entirely your fault
>>501624345she was the real deal, i know, i could feel
>>501625792I go against everything you say.
>>501625970go complain to the owner of the itch website then?
>>501626070post one good game that was bad then retard
>>501626070lmao this
the cocksucker is a woman
>>501625970name a good game
>>501626016why would you want to join the secret club of eternal flops?
>>501626131as if Marmo would listen to me
>>501625726>No marketingLiterally the same as all of Marmoreal, Nolgorb, OAB, Cosmic Call, and Afterlife Gladiator. You haven't done anything to break the cycle.
>work really hard on game for months>finish it finally>feel sense of accomplishment>that feeling fades after a few weeks>don't really care if anyone plays it>in fact i hope they don't, since it's not that great>don't want to bother shilling it or releasing it on steam, i doubt anyone would really buy it anyway>it will probably end up just another forgotten demo on itch with less than 50 downloads >the emptiness inside is too profound to expressThere is an idea of a Yesdev. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can reply to my post and get a (You) from me, and maybe you can even sense our mindsets are probably comparable, I simply am not there.
>>501626131>bro just fix a human community issue by complaining to the soulless meatgrinder faggot-owned mass corpo conglomerate that has to clickbait and scam people to surviveare you even hearing yourself? Appealing to /agdg/ itself is the only sane line of action
>>501626343I can't even imagine being such a fucking loser. Holy fuck. What the fuck happened to you man. You bring immense shame to your family and ancestors.
>>501626168Darkwood
believing that the best games would logically be found at the top of the rankings is the same as believing that you will find the highest-quality youtube videos on the homepageare you 12?
>>501626513bbc
why is it so hard to take the neediness and desperation out of gamedev? i mean it can really be fun and fullfilling to make a game. but the whole "i need to make money, i want to be successful" meta really turns it into misery.
>>501626370>Appealing to /agdg/ itself is the only sane line of actionI already added loliswhat else can I do?
i can't dev before i have pooped
OK here is an idea: Demo Day rankings for the top 2 rows are recorded for each DD. If a game has been in the top 2 rows for more than 2 demo days in a row then it is banned from all streamsgive me a single reason why this not a perfect idea that would solve everything
>>501626965add NTR
>>501626859Anyone who has worked hard enough on their game has felt it, and if you haven't felt it, it just means you haven't worked hard enough yet, and that is why you don't have a game that anyone wants to play.
>>501622242So after he releases, fails and unhero everything will be back to normal?
:: Project Nortubel ::progress :: Cutscene work.
>>501626993just stop posting
>>501627229hopefully yeah, because then his cultists would no longer have any ground to stand on, therefore they wouldn't be able to justify his popularity within /agdg/. I expect that after he flops things will dissipate back to the anarchist meritocracy they used to be
>>501626993Why are you wasting so much enegry arguing about this when nobody carea?
>>501626993And you're gonna enforce it how exactly?
>>501627325>>501627435>>501627531you did not disprove the efficacy of my proposed solution or even attempted to argue against it, therefore you admit that it would work perfectly in solving the problem
>>501627280Cute vamps!
fygoon is what would happen if crumble and cris had a baby
>>501627575"other games are more popular than mine" is not a real problem
>>501627531bullying
>>501626859it's just a hobby bro
>>501627531if the inner circle decides to adopt it they could enforce it easily
the only way to save agdg is by making themed demo days, that way anons can focus on making small games fast, instead of getting stuck for half a decade on their ugly unfun games like most of devs here
>>501626859It's amazing to me how cancerous everyone is here. "Oh no I might fail, I need to hide in shame and cry." Like what the fuck is wrong with you people. Like the other yesdev above too scared to publish on steam. Just live your fucking lives. Jesus.
>>501627737"some demo day games are hogging all the attention and downloads for over 7 demo days straight" is a real problem
>>501628001>Jesus
>>501626168no i am but i look like that and say that, but how do i motivate myself to make a game if i like to partake in such an activity?
>>501628058Skill issue
>>501628058was there a better game that didn't get the attention you think it deserved?
you have 100 health, 200 max health, you get damaged by 110 health, you heal by 20 health in the same frame. should you be dead or alive?what determines the order?i went with dying.
>>501628058You should be excited to edge your way in. Like playing starcraft and scratching your way from bronze to gold to platinum and higher.
>>501626343I know the feeling, I try to be proud of my effort but if the final product is mediocre then it can be depressing.But starting something new makes up for it most of the time
>>501626993>>501627575I'm not hearing any rebuttals. Until someone gives a better solution to the problem I will continue forward with the assumption that everyone agrees this is the best solution we have
>>501628167just like make game ( ´･･)ﾉ(._.`)
>>501627916next year agdg should do a jam every month
>>501628058That's how the industry works. Are you also going to complain that other released games "hog all attention" after you release your game?Oh, what am I saying, of course you will.
You will NOT demotivate me.
>>501628341Here's a better solution - we capture f*ggy and f*gtroon, pump them full of cocaine and then slowly skin them alive for our amusement
>>501628235how did players feel? a very brief window where you can heal from a kill shot is kinda cool too.>*you're dead!* n-no! not today!
>>501628404don't let cris see this
>>501628180>>501628197>>501628248>just push yourself through the meatgrinder to a position that literally has no benefits in the long runyou retards are never gonna get it. Fucking clueless chumps. This isn't about the fact that there is a challenge, it's about the fact that the race is rigged and retarded and completely erodes the sense of community. This isn't a competition but the fart huffers at the top treat it that way. Even when I get to the top there will still be dozens of devs who are stuck in the low row while deserving better. This isn't about me, it's about the entire community hurting
>>501628451BASED
>>501628491thats a nice idea
>>501628410/agdg/ isn't the industry and all the brainrot zoomers who think it is end up doing a surprise pikachu face when every top row game flops. Just disconnect DD from the industry because you are missing the whole point you Patric Bateman wannabe sigma grindset dipshit. /adgd/ and DD are about the people not about your marnix pseudoguru business strategies. It's about friendship, not the soulless AAA marketplace that just plays CoD and seethes about wokeshit 24/7
>>501624958>>501625379>>501627916wнat if you go back to /gd/
/agdg/ is just a limping husk full of zoomer lurkers. No fucking backbone and no fucking testosteronethis is why you will all fail and die in your own piss
>>501628235it should all be calculated in one line, so alive
>>501625271>>501625970>>501625831Ok so let me get this straight.Popularity/rankings/attention has nothing to do with the quality of a game, and your personal definition of a "good" game is unknown and perhaps completely subjective, but needless to say you consider your own game to be "good". Yet your whole grievence hinges on the fact that your "good" game didn't get enough attention, which you blame on osur's inner circle cabal that has conspired against you somehow to only funnel attention (through some unknown means) away from your game where it should rightfully be, to their own (not good) games.So you seem to simultaneously believe that the amount of attention a game gets has nothing to do with its quality, but you also think that good games (yours) deserve more attention than they get because they are good.And your solution to this is to deliberately shit up the thread and ruin it for everyone else because you believe you're engaging in some kind of battle for the soul of agdg, rather than accepting that your game isn't very good or interesting and making it better, you decided to do this instead.
>>501573689Your parents are fucking ugly, Nortubel.
anons give me some tips/resources on how to make a logo like in pic related(no AI) i have a feeling im going about it in the wrong way
You. I want you to stop everything you're doing and go and have sex right now. Only after come back and post here again.
>>501628734A randomizer for the order in jams would be good. petition itch about it
>>501628734How is it rigged. I'm curious
>>501629197he doesn't have a game
>>501629310*she
>new reviewfeels good
Do you really have to talk to the nodev shitposter
>>501628410>Amateur Game Development General>Amateur Game Development >Amateur Game >Amateur
>>501627280If you're gonna ignore marketing, then you should really cut content so you can release early, watch this one join other anon games in the dump, and make the next game.This loop hasn't done anything different and shouldn't be continued.
>>501629254*I mean as the only order. no sorting options.
>>501628001>scared
NecroBattler progress:The game is still very basic but I added health on the tokens, damage numbers and some sound effects so it's easier to follow what's happening.There's a little bit more content too.Also the game window is scaled instead of stretched now.
>>501629220You mean the chrome affect? It's surprisingly easy, it's all just gradients. I'm only familiar with Adobe Illustrator but I'm sure other free graphics programs can do this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se5EaMtWP54
>>501629220use AI
>>501629197no I believe that all competently made games deserve equal treatment and that is not what we're observing in /agdg/ in the last 4 years. I don't want my game to be given priority, I just don't want thread or discord celeb games to get preferential treatment because they are friends with the senator or some shit
Project FACTime invested: 76h 17mStatus: stuck in physics, around 50 hours behind expectations.Time until cheat meal: it's on Monday so two days I guess?
>>501629473>Negrobattler
So if all of the popular AGDG games (top 20-30 on DD) are evil and bad, then can anyone here name some good ones that are genuinely underappreciated and deserve/need more attention?Who are the people being "suppressed" by the inner circle?
>>501624578>>501625458AGDG Discord server invite link (real).https://discord.gg/DSzZa9KUse the archive's search function.https://arch.b4k.co/vg/search/text/agdg%20discord%20invite%20linkOr look here.https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-10
>>501629473yaay
>>501629254I would hate that. I'd want the best games to be near the top. Otherwise we'll get some game at the top where it's just a picture of a furry spreading it's ass.
>>501629676See I knew it, so tired of people saying there is no official discord.
>>501629659we have already gone over this 50 000 times
>>501629485the chrome is part of it but like are the letters a font or is it calligraphy i think i can handle the dragon behind the letters
>>501629676>Albuquerque Game Developers Guild
>>501629396Based
>>501629659>>501628404
>>501629251does it have to be with another person ?
>>501629801Nah, click it, it's the real one.
>>501629501NO
>>501629396I just watched a guy death growl while playing it.
>>501629759Right, there are none.
>>501629197Haven't we already discussed that this issue never was about one single game but rather about a whole lineup of games who get ignored and snubbed just because they fall short of the top 2 rows?
>>501629736They're shy and don't want to share.
>>501629929>668 online*gags*
>>501629730ok, random for a week and then the rankings options unlock
>>501630075I would write again but I recently developed a cyst in my armpit that collects sweat till it bursts so I don't really have time for that.
>>501629412There's only a few things left to do.I won't add any other character or prefab.
>>501629046We already have enough schizos, please DO NOT
progress
>>501630149But why. Why should we ruin Demo Day. I really don't get it.
>>501618264Imagine if trannies just stopped being snowflakes
>>501629774>are the letters a font or is it calligraphyIt's probably an edited font. What you're probably looking for is a blackletter typeface, not a calligraphy one. Calligraphy is more like cursive.Find a blackletter font, type out your game's name, then stretch and edit it until it looks the way you want it to. Don't just type the name and leave it as is, that will look like shit. Play with the letter spacing (kerning) at the very least.>tfw agdg is the only place where my graphic design degree has been useful
>>501628058If you can't even get attention during demo day you're not gonna get any on release. It's a good test.
>>501630127only like 20 of them post with any real frequency
>>501630214I am slavic myself and I don't like other slavics being hereYou also should vacate
>>501630127it feels like there are about 10 itt. how many are there really!? lurkers! (you) me.
>>501630275ruin it how? Why do you care if the games with the highest algo position sit at the top?Unless of course you are one of the niggers who benefits from this? Are you mad that your gay little victory wouldn't be public anymore?
>>501629473nice, it's a lot more clear already. i can almost hear this soundless webm
>>501630362Right. If you can't even beat a couple games to make it to the top, what makes you think anyone gives a fuck about your game? I mean make it for fun or whatever, but your game just isn't fun. I don't understand the obsession with wasting everyones time fucking up the order.
>>501625970what makes the top ranked games not good?
If a chicken is bleeding a little, and the other chickens see it, they may peck it to death. Some people are like that.
>>501630275would that ruin it? giving less popular more of a shot at getting feedback?
>>501629659The outer circle.>Fygoon>Cris>Nortubel>Automondev>BlueSandDev>Dirkdev
>>501630320the best games come from trans folks so fuck off
>>501629590Games are never treated equally. You can make some a vehicle game comptetently and agdg probably won't give a shit, but you make an anime girl walk around in an unreal engine greybox level and you'll get 30 (You)s. agdg has specific tastes and people are interested in whatever they're interested in.Also how do inner circle games get more attention? If it's demoday streams then my mid-table ranking game got streamed a few times and I'm not in any inner circles. In fact streams probably damage visibility and ranking because there's no point in you trying the game yourself if you watched someone else stream it.
>>501630214>Chinaman cartoon
>>501630423It would ruin it by randomizing the games, meaning finding good games takes longer. What is the fucking point of that. If anything it hurts good games and promotes terrible games, which just pushes people away from reviewing AGDG games overall. "Oh look, it's just a big pile of shit."
>>501630568The bottom 3 are in the IC though, they get their games streamed.
>>501630534I had a chicken/cock pair as a kid, once the cock took the virginity of the chicken and he bit her head to stay in place, I got scared because I was young and she bled a bit.
>>501630569Baznificent please
>>501630362I've already told you that I get more traction outside of /agdg/ and demo days. This IS NOT about the market how many times do we have to discuss the same topicSTOP THINKING ABOUT STEAMSTOP THINKING ABOUT MONEYSTOP THINKING ABOUT MARNIXTHISIS THEAMATEURGAMEDEVELOPERGENERALTHE HOBBY GENERAL FOR BUDDIES MAKING GAMESWHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN. JUST GET IT INTO YOUR THICK SKULL.
>>501629592>stuck in physics,PIDs are your friend, move by velocity vector, increase velocity by acceleration vectorincrease moment of inertia to make things feel heavyer
I need to spend the entire afternoon watching shader tutorials.
>>501630667you dont have a game
>>501630351thank you anon i think this is what i needed
>>501630363DeadwireDev is superactive there. Yet is a talentless mulatto. If you can't dev, just spend your time in Discord. Or in /agdg/.
>>501630385relax
>>501630650>meaning finding good games takes longerthat works on the assumption that the lower ranked games are bad, when in reality Landsword and Kalemonvo are two of the most boring games in the entire roster. How fucking brain damaged from algorhitms do you have to be to blindly believe that the higher-ranked games are the better ones. Nortubel has one of the highest player counts, it's just unlisted, otherwise you would have to "objectively" deal with it at the top rows toopull your head out of your ass
I just came here to laugh at you.
>>501630746whatever helps you cope. You are a sickness and you are killing /agdg/. No one who cares about this place has no reason to listen to your drivel. I will destroy all evil and save this place AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME
>>501630214somehow that makes me think of Nadia.
>>501630626Thats clearly slavic
>>501631064I came here to make people laugh.
>>501630652azurdev doesn't even have a discord account
>>501630931kill yourself for you take delight in your ancestryno place in the internet is safe from you
>>501630127its pogodev posting code salad that nobody cares about, adn arguing that popular == good, tca posting his hobby projects and the mechadevs posting their progress
>>501630953Make a better game you fucking baby.
https://files.catbox.moe/a7igk3.jpgSome of you liked my previous rooms, so here's the finished living room. (Still IP range banned...)
>>501631194the inner circle isn't the discord stupid sheeple
>>501631160that's shinji
>>501631312thats a tiny ass table
>>501631340yes, and?
>>501631320having a discord is a mandatory step in joining the inner circle>t. knower
>>501630953>Nortubel has one of the highest player counts, it's just unlisted, otherwise you would have to "objectively" deal with it at the top rows toojust how disconnected from reality are you
>>501631284>gets btfo>immediately resorts to his faggy quip takedownsyou're making my whole case for me. Do you think that anyone would look at an evasive weasel like you and think that you have the good of demo day or the general in mind? Stupid jewish snake
>>501630726I don't know what PIDs are but the problem is making the controls feel satisfying. I'm making a simple flight model but I want it to have lift, thrust, drag and gravity. Either lift is too strong or not strong enough or doesn't change quickly enough or it's too bouncy. But I'll figure it out, it's just the matter of experimenting with values.
>>501631136youre not doing anything but filling the thread with more noise. maybe you should get a job?
>>501631412https://files.catbox.moe/th4iw8.jpgWell, it's supposed to be a coffee table / side table, maybe it's the FOV fault.
>>501631539You didn't make a case.If someone wants to argue the algo is broken, do it. I haven't seen it. I'm fine with alternative filters, But the default filter should order the best games at the top. The games you attacked are fairly well polished with the best chance of success. They aren't guaranteed to sell, but they are clearly superior products IN comparison to lower ranked games. Fucking Faggot baby
your gaslighting isn't workingyour gaslighting isn't workingyour gaslighting isn't workingreally weak game today
>>501629396I'm going to be brutally honest. The good part: The gameplay is fun. Maybe that's just my doom nostalgia speaking but it scratches the right itch for me, so well done on that.The bad part: Some of the levels are too low contrast making it hard on the eyes. Especially the dark blue and dark purple one make it difficult to see shit, even if you increase contrast on your own screen. The light blue level looks much better by comparison. Some of the sound effects seem either too quiet, or don't fit with the visuals, like the minigun sounds like a completely different weapon to me. Lastly, the trailer starts with you being dead on the floor for like the first 10 seconds, by that point most people have already clicked away. To gain peoples attention the trailer should start with the action right away.
guys just make a game and post progress holy fucking shit
>>501631312soulless archvis
>>501630780Happy to help
>>501631440and that's the way i like it
>>501631774once you disavow osur and kick him out of here all will return to normal, until then the activism will continue
>>501629659>make dogshit gameWAAAAH IM SUPRESSED!!!!
I'm getting back to my old game project, and I've found some questionable code, I'll be giving the code a touch up and remaking parts as i try and familiarize myself with the codebase once again
>>501631785Sure buddy, whatever you say
This general really doesn't talk enough about how hard Transwiz got mogged by https://store.steampowered.com/app/2380050
Which game genre would fit best with my artstyle?
good news - everyone who was featured on a stream is confirmed to not be this schizo. i just need to collect data from a couple more meltdowns and I'll be able to deduce what sorry game this bum has
>>501632061do you think so? seems like a completely different genre. It would take a good freelancer-like to mog him
Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that if you had just replied to my progress and talked about my game in the thread none of this would have happened in the first place. I destroyed /adgd/ single-handedly because you refused to accept me as one of your own. Yes, if someone like me can come in here and completely level everything because of mistretment then the system is broken. You chose this.
>>501632061see that game has immediate appeal.I understand what that game is selling, it looks fun, it's thematically consistent.It's presented well.
>>501631974what an odd response
>>501632554>space>features weirdly shaped ship>features train shaped shipyep its fair game to compare
>>501632596whodev(nodev) moment
>>501632550probably an AI slop game
>>501631970wow that code does look pretty shittyI usually tell anons not to refactor but... do what you gotta do
>>501632448bro I jerk off once to a gay green textyou're aight
lil bro thought he was baby crumble
>>501632448text adventure
>>501632762I consneed
"work smart not hard"this quote is so fucking stupid. yeah you can work smarter, but there's limits. this term is used like "working smart" means you should know some magic spells to magically summon work into existence.you still need to hit a hard attack, "working smart" is just a small buff on top of the attack.
>>501632863you know in your heart that I'm not a nodev because at times I'm making too much sense. How would I understand this pain so profoundly had I not lived through it? There is only one reasonable explanation and you're afraid of confronting it because you realize what horrible implications it will open your mind up to.It's also because you're a failed normie.
>>501632061It's way more generic and way more polished. So it's way lesser of a niche, and has a clear appeal. Hey, it's Euro Truck Simulator in Space!!! You don't even need to know what Freelancer is to be interest in it.
>>501627769Gamedev is the most fun with this in mind, but sometimes it's nice to hope I can quit my day job one day, or at least payoff my home and make my life so much less stressfulBut then I realize I'm lucky to own a home (even with a mortgage)
>>501633062work smart and hard to beat the guys just working smart.
>>501632702https://files.catbox.moe/xkxw02.jpgResponse matching the comment, as I had no idea what the fuck is archvis, and my game is in Godot.
>>501628235Don't check for death until all the calculations are finished.
>>501632596ellen page is looking rough
>>501633062damn that's crazy
I'm Crumble's granddaddy, destroyer of worlds.
>>501616301>>501572401glitchy retarded post>>501584369inhuman cris level disembodied head>>501611797unity navmesh wow>>501613037pixelshitwow great progressarino
>>501633328what is it with slavs and little girls?
I'm guessing the schizo is Journey Zero dev again. (A woman btw.) She submits to every DD and mostly gets ignored.https://backdoornight.itch.io/18-28-38-48
>>501632886Yes, teh bottom bit i can understand why it's there, but hte top bit i'm not quite sue why i used error throwing as a conditional, perhaps just to prove that it was a thing i could do for future reference or something
>>501631625>I want it to have lift, thrust, drag and gravity.the more real you make it, the harder it is to control; that's when PIDs will be usefull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional%E2%80%93integral%E2%80%93derivative_controllerdon't let the scary symbols and math spook you, they are conceptually simple, i can post my implementation if you would likefor lift you can start with dot product from planeSpeed with planeForward, then sample a lift curve that peaks very early. make the curve dip again if you want stalling. the lift should be proportional to the velocity squared for realism, but of course, you can always go linear and see how it behaves.... my advice is that you read about this stuff instead of banging your head against the wall like I did. should have read all the stuff that TCA wrote, and all the stuff that is on github already
>>501633394Hey bro! You might be new here. if you want to see more progress in your threads it's as easy as 1-2-3! Just disavow the Kalemnigger and come along with meOnce we destroy the regime paradise will be restoredThe old order of snakes and sycophants left utterly destroyed
>>501633640>>501633640>>501633640
>>501633490You can thank Russia for inspiring lots of great loli artists.
>>501616507>Nodes have no runtime overheadLMAO, why do I even bother posting here with retards like this.
>>501633517I don't think so. >i hate to crab, but i genuinely struggle to see the appeal of this game.>Don't worry, fren. I still have a lifetime in front of me to add appeal to the game if there isn't any. It's my passion project
>>501633517its a schizo, not a dev
>>501634353>>501634519>devs can't be mentally unhingedThis wouldn't be the first time she's freaked out.
>>501634891whats wrong with you
>>501633529Thanks but that's all too high IQ for me.For lift I have:>float liftForce = baseLiftCoefficientMagicNumber * (float)Math.Cos(angleOfAttack) * speed * speed;but the lift is too strong and the plane keeps lifting even when its nose is pitched below horizon. I think if I can make it so that vertical speed can't be positive when the nose is below the horizon then it will be good enough. I want an arcade flight model but I want somewhat realistic landings (so that the player will need to reduce speed and pitch the nose up to land).I also just learned about trim and I guess I'll need to implement that to make the plane stop lifting when it's flying level except during takeoff.
>>501635454is this for the balloon shooting game ?
>>501634829well you're not wrong
>>501635454don't do cos(AOE), sample a curve instead. cos(AOE) returns 1 for 0 angle so you get massive lift when flying straight.sample a curve using the AOE instead, this way you can very manualy and visually control the behavior with the curve
>>501636773If it returns 1 that means normal lift. I wanted the lift to be choked off when the AoA is too highI don't know what sampling a curve is. I barely know what a curve is but my game is all straight lines.
>>501637320https://www.desmos.com/calculator/l6106x7ovbyou want your lift to be like the purple curve.
>>501631312>https://files.catbox.moe/a7igk3.jpg>wow, someone is posting a picture of their room that they will model later>wait...>notice some textures and solid shape of a pillow>it is a model>look at the pillows further away>no, it's not modelled, these pillows look too good>notice pixels on the lamp>wtf, it IS modelled>mfw
>>501608305Anon, Python fucking sucks. GDScript is retardized Python.
