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>there's no cuck content
>but here's a mod to remove it
well which one is it?

Larger question related to the specific topic from last thread - why is cuckoldry common in crpgs?

>>502475072
Most crpg writers are massive losers

>lae'zel isn't trans
>but here's a mod to affirm her gender
well which one is it?

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good evening , /bgg/
Waifus, Husbandos
Love & Harmony

and namefag having more personalities than deities Ketheric has worshiped

Missionary with Astarion

>>502475041
uh well actually I used metaknowledge to avoid having the threesome in my playthrough, therefore I never heard shart admit she actively fantasizes about halsin while I'm romanced to her, therefore it didn't happen. also I kept halsin out of my party so all the times she flirts with him while we're romanced don't exist either. I am not deranged and coping.

>>502475072
It isn't. What has happened is that CRPG online discussion is dominated by a certain type of person which is very vulnerable to meme poisoning and other mind hijacks, and so as the "haha cuckoldry haha" brain worm has made its way through 4chins culture, those people discussing CRPGs online begin seeing it everywhere. It's not too dissimilar to how an HR generalist starts seeing systemic racism under every rock after years of being immersed in that sort of thinking. Low IQ people talk about and obsess over a meme all day, and eventually it rewires their mind and they can't stop.

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>>502475283

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The slopswine is a subhuman that for months suffered the negative influence of a BULLY general, which constantly abused it, and which WARPED its nature. When the swine distances itself from its sloppy routine, it demonstrates and understands that, while remaining faithful to its attention-seeking and time-wasting nature, it is also possible to be completely society's waste, maintaining its porcine aspect.

https://vocaroo.com/13P1txr2YiKa

>>502475072
crpgs are dominated by failed men. That said, it is much much more pronounced in bg3 than any other game I've ever seen.

>>502475483
uh well actually I asked my spouse to have group sex and she agreed, though she refuses if we haven't had sex with each other yet, and then she said she found someone attractive which everyone knows stops happening the moment you start "going steady" in real life relationships so I was an active participant in group sex I deliberately requested and that means I was....LE KEKOHLD!!!!!

x10,000, all the way into 2025 and beyond

I modded out Goodberry from my game

>>502474654
there were a lot of complaints shortly after release
>I wonder if they're going to change it,
doubt they'll change anything. months ago they actually changed it in the opposite direction. they added a "you're entitled to find pleasure wherever you choose" line to shart in act two and added more facial animations to shart and halsin in the brothel scene.

there's no way they're deleting anything since they've gone out of their way to enhance it instead

>>502475703
>your wife coming onto other men in your presence is normal and happens all the time in real life bro
halsin has buckbroken so many men

>>502475929
>deliberate misrepresentation of what happens in reply to a plain portrayal of what actually happens in order to keep the tired meme going
Epic

>>502475486
>Low IQ people talk about and obsess over a meme all day
You're adding fuel to the fire, so you're not exempt from that generalization. "It doesn't exist" is as thought-terminating as "It does." In other words, you're wasting everyone's time, since no one will budge from their entrenched opinion. At least, you can blame the namefag for being the evil mastermind who's responsible for every thread derailment. Hold on to that moral victory.

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*deals 10000 psychic damage on a bonus action*
How is she so powerful?

>>502476021
>if I ignore it then it doesn't exist
need a new acronym for shart defenders
CCs
copin' cucks

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Don't let the shitposting topic of the hour distract you from the fact Astarion was RAPED and that's freaking HILARIOUS. It's so funny I can't stop repeating that swine joke.

>>502476243
godey blasting the finger guns will never not be not funny
cope

slurping up the slimey mess Halsin shot deep into Shadowheart while they make out above me

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>>502475072
DA:O doesn't have cuckoldry, it had a surrogacy. Completely different thing.

ME:A had a character advocate for you to cheat on your partner, but you had the option to say no that's disgusting. It was optional, unlike the Shadowheart case.

Pathfinder:KM gives you the option to have a polyamorous relationship with Regongar and Octavia, but this one was also completely optional, since they want to break up and you can have either one of them, getting them back together so you're a threesome requires extra input. Thus, optional. Also, polyamory isn't cuckoldry. Let's mind our terminology.

SWTOR funnily enough actually does feature cuckoldry, and it's not the direct result of a player dialogue option or effort. If you're dating Kailiyo she actually does invite men over and you can ask her about it and it's implied. But I think this case is different because Kaliyo has about a dozen red flags and you already know she's a bad choice, so you signed up for bullshit, so I'm less sympathetic. With Shart, she lies to you earlier in the game saying she doesn't want to be a third wheel or share you, so Shart's content actually is a surprise.

There wasn't supposed to be any cuckoldry in Pillars of Eternity, Eder flirting with Xoti was supposed to be only if you're not pursuing either of them. So any perceived cuckoldry is legitimately a bug.

I don't recall any in Wrath of the Righteous, Rogue Trader, Greedfall, Dragon Age 2 or 3, Mass Effect 1/2/3, Tyranny, Planescape, or any others that come to mind.
Witcher 3 gives YOU the chance to cheat on them.

>>502474948
So shadow heart flirts with Halsin.
And Halsin is fine with polyamory.

Is there a cutscene where you and Halsin spit roast Shadow heart?

>>502476038
I'm not adding fuel to the fire, I'm whittling away time, same as you. "It doesn't exist" is correct, and "it does" is incorrect, it's as simple as that. You're attempting to draw a false equivalency between true and untrue, which is the domain of a jackass.

>>502476223
I'm not ignoring anything, I'm directly addressing and explaining the content to you that you weren't able to understand, and still aren't, either because of a mental deficiency or because you need to pretend in order to keep stale shit posts going.

>>502476329
If it's not funny now, I can always repeat it in 4 hours. The slopswine does have an exceptionally short-lived memory of its own shitposts.

>>502476350
That post is too long to care about but I see lots of game names at a cursory glance so I assume it is confirming how much it shows up.

>>502476350
>With Shart, she lies to you earlier in the game saying she doesn't want to be a third wheel or share you
How is this a lie?
She doesn't want to share you but has a valid desire to be shared

>>502476448
It's you, Shadowheart, Halsin, and Drow twins, but it just fades to black.

>>502476448
You see nothing but yes she cucks you.

>>502476454
>"It doesn't exist" is correct, and "it does" is incorrect, it's as simple as that.
"It does" is correct, and "it doesn't" is incorrect, it's as simple as that. Wow, that sure was easy. Now that I got the last word and your opinion was changed as a result, surely we'll be able to move on.

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>free 10000 damage every turn on a bonus action
>the mentally unwell take triple damage(99% of enemies in the game)

How is this allowed? Tactician btw

>>502476543
>She doesn't want to share you but has a valid desire to be shared
She wants to share you with Halsin

>>502476761
She's a pillow princess, she wants all the attention on her, she would not be ok sharing you with Halsin (unless you're cleaning up or stuck to his balls while he's pounding her)

>>502476350
>With Shart, she lies to you
She doesn't, this is something you imagined because you have severe and overpowering autism. Shadowheart does not wish to be in a polyamorous relationship, and at no point does she attempt to engage in one. If you ask her to have group sex when you haven't slept together at all, she flatly refuses. When you ask her afterwards, she will do so purely because it's what you want, and will then acknowledge being attracted to a participant as an ice breaker nicety, just as you must surely be attracted to one other participant to even suggest it. This then enters your swiss cheese brain, undergoes some bizarre transformation, and mysteriously exits as the memes you've been imbibing on 4chan all day.

>>502476729
>oh yeah you think 2+2=4 is correct well I say its incorrect what now!?!?!
Like the namefag, I'm sure you think you're making a cogent point, but you're too stupid for that. Right and wrong exists, and you're on the wrong side. If you're stupid and can't tell the difference, that's great, but this isn't a subjective matter.

Even if you never encounter "that moment" a savvy person will pick up on her and halsin always liking or disliking the same things or her disapproving if you say something to shut halsin's dialog down.
Who she is is there all game even if you never encounter the ultimate wtf moment.

>>502476895
>If you have a chance to climb Mount Halsin....

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>>502476454
dunning kruger effect in full force with shart lovers
putting aside that you simply refuse to recognize that she comes onto halsin right in front of you when they're both in the party, you appear to be some form of ESL (probably indian) that doesn't speak english and is using google translate
>Shadowheart: I won't pretend the thought hasn't crossed my mind once or twice... or more than that.
hasn't crossed my mind
has not
this is called the present perfect, Rajesh
the present perfect is when you talk about something in the present that has been happening periodically in the past
whether Shart says this, it means she has been fantasizing about cucking you with Halsin for some continuous period of time, days or weeks
thus, regardless of whether she is prompted to make this statement in the present, the continuous past state has still existed

>>502476490
You know, it saddens me that despite the great time we spent together here, you have now built a sort of "thread personality" in your head that doesn't correspond much to reality.
Not that I care about your perceptual dissonance (and not that I see it replicated in the namefag who has now internalized the conflict, without even taking into consideration my barbs since he is always here reading them with the name off), but I just find it curious.

You seem much more attached to this symbiotic, no-parasitism relationship, compared to me who honestly could do without it.
Stop hitting on me, silly "mysterious anon"

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>I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE
>And anyway, it was just a JOKE.
Slop & Hypocrisy.

Sigh, the intellectual silence that rises during the namefag hours truly is
deafening

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Psychic vulnerability is crazy fr

>>502476665
How is it cucking if you're a participant in the sex?
That's just an n-some/orgy.

>>502476597
>fades to black.
There's literally premade sex animation frameworks to use.
Modders need to fucking get on extending the spicy scenes past the fades to black already. Games been playable for four damn years, what's the hold up?

>>502477060
>you simply refuse to recognize that she comes onto halsin right in front of you
Because it doesn't happen. Depending on which event you're referring to, you're either willfully misinterpreting a conversation you began and pushed her into, or you have an unironic virgin incel's view of relationships and think your significant other should wear a duck blind or something.

>she said it crossed her mind, that proves it!
No, lol. It proves she said something approving in an awkward moment to indicate attraction to a participant in the group sex you yourself just suggested she partake in, as a means of signaling her approval. Then you get wiki autists in this thread who take everything in the most literal terms possible either as legitimate mental shortcoming, or as a means of furthering their shitposting, and here we are.

>>502476108
goodberries

>>502477374
I’m convinced it’s some mouthbreather spamming his fetish

>>502477504
>what's the hold up
The framework was originally made for patreon, then the guy behind it dipped out when it wasn't pulling the money he wanted. It seems to be getting some more active development now, but we'll see. Paid mods fucked up the whole modding culture.

>>502476898
In act 2 she plainly says she doesn't want to share you, and she has a heartfelt line about how she just got her life under her control and she doesn't want to get crazy.

Then in act 3 she affirms to you that she's actually been dreaming of having sex with Halsin for an extended period of time.

You're also mistaken as to the order of events. You actually don't have to say you want to have sex with the twins, you only have to ask them about what they mean. It happens as part of the dialogue before you actually say yes. Shart volunteers that she's been dreaming of this as encouragement for you to say yes. Then she dissapproves if you exclude Halsin. There's no way around this anon. The author contradicted Shart's previous lines in act 2 because he wanted to surprise the player with Shart actually dreaming of another man. The way the line is worded, she's already been doing it before you ask, since at the time of asking she's already been doing it, and it also means that she's been doing it even if you never asked, because you asking was not the start of it, she's already doing it. I'm sorry that you learned this way and I'm sorry you're in denial, but the way the lines are written are plain as day. And you're mistaken as to the order of events required to see them.

You have three options. The first is to do what you're currently doing. Denying and lying and spreading misinformation regarding the details of the scene. The second is to say "okay, that's weird, bu ultimately she's still with me so I don't really care". The third is to say "huh, that's weird, and not something I choose to abide in my partner. I have discovered something new about her that I wasn't aware of, and it's kind of a dealbreaker. I will find someone else".

Oak Father preserve us all.

What were the chances both Shadowheart and Halsin love animals, love nature, are sex positive, and have orgy, polyamory, bestiality kinks? Golly, they even share the exact same lines in act 3 sometimes! What a strange coincidence

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>I travel with Halsin

Who does this

>>502477610
That seems to be a problem in all bg3 threads on all boards that get them. The same loser squatting and posting garbage.

OPEN THE BLOODY GATES

>>502477806
J is an obese hack

Another slow saturday talking about how your first love is a whore
something makes me thing some event in the game hit way too close to home, namefag
yuck yuck yuck

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>>502477515
>s-shart doesn't have flirt banter with halsin, it's not true, it can't be true!
don't open this webm......
>s-she was peer pressured into saying she fantasizes about halsin!! it was just a lie!
cool headcanon bro. just admit you're a cuck and we can move on

>>502476898
>I'm sure you think you're making a cogent point,
Unlike you, I don't equate personal opinions with the objectivity of math. You're not outside of that group of shitposters, as you claim to be. This is made evident by your idea of scapegoating the namefag, when it takes two to tango.

>>502477682
>In act 2 she plainly says she doesn't want to share you
And left to her own devices, she never does. The only sharing takes place when you push her into it, and even then it is group sex where you are an active participant and the initiating party, where it's very explicitly being done FOR you, which is pretty far from your fetish.

>It happens as part of the dialogue before you actually say yes
It happens as part of the dialogue where you are clearly signaling your interest in a sexual encounter to everyone in the room. Again, this is heavy autism. Almost every story based argument in this thread has historically come down to one of you being furiously autistic to the point that you can't correctly interpret dialogue and actions that are plain to normal people. "Oh, he just asked about the group sex encounter, why is she talking about the group sex encounter, I don't get it!" it's fucking crazy in here.

literally the only people who would ever be satisfied with the way polyamory is depicted in bg3 are bisexual people who are also into swinging

>anons making fun of the cuckolding - single line of text laughing
>anons supporting the cuckolding - walls of text
Very strange

>>502476051
Astarion love

>>502477884
"Halsin you have a big hand"
Oh man I'm so CUUUUUUUCKED OH NO SHE SAID HE HAS HANDS WTF HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME SHADOWHEART I GAVE YOU NIGHT ORCHIDS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Retarded

I perfer Shar Shadowheart and then doing the redemption in act 3 when she finds her parents. Feels better than to do it in act 2. Also dark hair shart just looks better.

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>>502478179
>his last, desperate counterargument is to pretend to be autistic and not understand suggestive dialogue
this shartcuck is so closeted it's astounding
he's going to have a mental breakdown one day and swerve into oncoming traffic. the last image in his conscious mind will be shart getting a goodberry pie from halsin

There's no way in fuck the namefag isn't samefagging right?

Now talk about how her history of being sexually abused makes her a whore

>>502477953
You're equating the objectivity of math with personal opinion. It isn't personal opinion that Shadowheart doesn't cuckold anyone, it's an objective statement of fact based on an understanding of what the word means, and what happens in-game. I appreciate that you want to defend the namefag despite his subpar intelligence and his dogged insistence on getting his mistakes over with the crowd here, but I'm not going to pretend you have a point just because you keep repeating yourself over and over. I was objectively correct the last two times you tried, I'll be objectively correct the next time you try.

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>>502477984
Another falsehood. You don't have to push her into it, she disaapproves if you deny Halsin's request. Learn the details of the event before you try to discuss it. This also happens to dismantle your entire argument that you're the one making her do it. If she was being "pressured" into it as you claim, then she wouldn't dissapprove of you backing out. You're simply and plainly ignorant of the details of the event.

>>502478331
It's the most milquetoast dialogue possible, but kissless virgins think even a wayward glance is sexual intimacy, so we end up traveling from "haha u big elf" to "I WAS LITERALLY CHEATED ON SHE LOOKED AT HIS HANDS HELP ME SELUNE"

Even as a dishonest repetitive shitpost, it's just stupid. You're filling the air with stupidity.

Guys stop. You're gonna bully him into suicide

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Imagine you are vulnerable to psychic damage and she gives you this look

>bro don't worry, your wife isn't cheating on you. it's totally normal for her to compliment another man's hand size in front of you in a sultry and sexually suggestive tone of voice

So a bard is just a jack of all trades sort of thing, huh?

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The pain and intensity and jealousy still hit me like the first time I found out about her hidden passions for him.

Over time my anger and frustration have ... turned to something else
I... I want him to do it
the betrayal that stabbed like a dagger now pulses in my chest, catching my breath and making my heart beat like a drum as I admit it
Yes... Halsin...
Take Shadowheart as yours. Caress her body with your hands and mouth.
Enter her and bring her the pleasure I cannot.
... Please ...

>>502478551
>You don't have to push her into it
You do, because it doesn't happen without your prompting.

>she disaapproves if you deny Halsin's request
Because you've suggested group sex in spite of her earlier wishes, she has agreed to do this for you, and you're then rude to a mutual friend that she finds attractive the same way you find the Drow girl attractive. Again, you have heavy autism and it prevents you from making obvious, direct conclusions about human behaviors and dialogues.

A cuckold event would be Shadowheart having sex with Halsin with or without your consent while you sit in a chair, what happens in game is Shadowheart never having sex with Halsin unless you direct her to do so, while you yourself are an active participant in the encounter. Even in your measly -1 disapproval, which is on par with the disapproval you get for not giving someone the last apple at camp, she engages in group sex with you and without Halsin based purely on your direction.

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>>502478380
Nah, you're just a weasel trying to play fast with your own words. One moment, it's because Mintharafag and the others are too autistic or virginal to interpret (keyword) a line correctly; the next it's just self-evident truth that needs no arguing, any more than one needs to argue 2+2 = 4. You're also the kind of dishonest shitposter that says it's normal for people in a couple to fantasize about actors/actresses, as if that's comparable to the situation we have at hand, which is a false equivalency.
>I appreciate that you want to defend the namefag
Oh no, I would never. You misinterpreted my intent. Could it be it's because you're autistic?

>>502478901
>bro she's totally cheating on you she said this made up line in a made up tone about how halsin is big like every other character notices and that means shes cheating bro post this cartoon frog bro

>>502479084
they're just shit frankly. I made one my first run so I could be a good party face and buff my party. you do no damage.
2nd run I was a pure fighter was the strongest member of my party.
you can also get your int, wis and cha to 13/14 and just wear dex gloves/ogre strength pot so be a good party face / pass skill checks and still slaughter everything
>>502479320
>made up line, made up tone
oh that's cute
so it didn't happen in your playthrough, ergo its not canon? do you know how insane you sound? mindbroken

>namefag namefag namefag namefag namefag namefag namefag namefag namefag namefag
There, I made your useless shitpost for you, now you can fuck off back to posting your slop and rambling about Astarion's more "gentle" nature. Or him being raped, that's always a crowd pleaser.

The elusive and silent- oh.

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(If the player is romancing Halsin in act 3)

Shadowheart: Halsin, if I were a druid, what animal do you think I'd be?
Halsin: Given your memory issues, perhaps a goldfish?
Shadowheart: I'd hoped for something a bit more exotic... but would you carry around my fish bowl, feed me flakes of food?
Halsin: Only the finest, of course.
(If the player is romancing Shadowheart, and Shadowheart chose Selûne)

Halsin: I heard you learnt how to swim, Shadowheart - well done.
Halsin: You know, if you and your love ever wish to enjoy the waters with me, I could attempt a kelpie... or even a porpoise.
Shadowheart: Depends, are you buoyant? I may need a life preserver if I get in over my head.
(If the player is romancing Shadowheart, and Shadowheart chose Shar)

Halsin: I heard what took place at Selûne's shrine, Shadowheart. Was such defilement truly necessary?
Shadowheart: Lady Shar demanded an offering, and I provided. Are you truly that scandalised, Halsin?
Halsin: More disappointed, I would say.
Shadowheart: Sounds like jealousy, to me. I couldn't risk your wild side getting too excited at the scent of blood...
>https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shadowheart/Banter

>>502479258
>One moment, it's because Mintharafag and the others are too autistic or virginal to interpret (keyword) a line correctly; the next it's just self-evident truth that needs no arguing
These two ideas don't disagree. It is a self evident truth, and namefag and the bored shitposters pretending to agree with him are too autistic or virginal to understand that self-evident truth, in the same way that 2+2=4 is self evident, and yet someone of sufficiently low IQ can't get it. I'm sure you've experienced that often, unaware and to the pained groans of everyone around you.

>as if that's comparable to the situation we have at hand
Because it is. The problem is that you lie about the situation at hand in service of memes and shit posting.

>You misinterpreted my intent
No, I correctly interpreted your actions, which you now intend to lie about because me calling you autistic has apparently upset you, and now you want to do the rubber-and-glue thing. You are autistic, you are wrong, you are carrying water for the namefag. Simple as.

Hmmm. I considered the Shartfag's position and looked at the banter file. The dev note actually does say Shart is supposed to be playful/knowing, not flirtatious there. Even says she's supposed to be enjoying that the shadowcurse is sapping the strength of her companions while she remains strong. Makes sense, most of the weird flirtatious shit come in by Act 3, not Act 2. She's mocking that Halsin is weak inside of the curse and would be unlikely to beat her down

>>502479537
teehee

>>502479541
NO STOP THIS ISNT CANON

>>502479668
She wants daddy halsin to spank her silly and go beast mode on her shadowpussy

>>502479438
>so it didn't happen in your playthrough, ergo its not canon?
Try to respond to things people say, and not what you imagine them saying. I know you're shit posting and pretending, and I'm helping you carry your gimmick forward, but you at least need to play along enough to not start arguing with your imagination.

You're misinterpreting the intent, and lying about the tone, because it helps your stale meme.

>>502479845
That's unironically not what fatso John wrote in the dev notes. She's supposed to be mocking him. From what I see, his self insert shit doesn't come in until act 3

>>502479541
>haha if you were a goldfish I would get the good food for you
>this means they're having an affair
The cuckoldry meme shitters aren't sending their best.

>>502479901
word salad cope
>>502480027
giga cope

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Camp banter and flirty comments oh my

Sigh.

>>502480082
>unable to reply usefully
>ctrl-v 4chinisms
Seems like you're getting tired.

>>502479169
As has already been explained to you, the wording John chose to use for the line means that she has been doing it before you asked, and before the scene happens, and would happen if the scene never happened. You keep repeating that it doesn't happen if you don't see the scene but the author of the scene chose specific language to make that not the case. You're literally in denial. Your argument boils down to "she was lying for your benefit because she wants to be supportive" but this is defeated by the fact that she actually has a dissaproval tag for not having sex with Halsin, meaning she was not lying about wanting to have sex with Halsin. She actually does want to. It's simple.

>she just didn't want to be rude
Anon, you are going into the stratosphere with the cope fueled rockets. You're actually now backpedaling to "she dissaproves of not having sex with Halsin because she didn't want to be rude". We both know you're grasping at straws with this one, come on.

I think you're been shown some interesting data you weren't aware of before this conversation, you didn't know that Shart actually dissapproves if you back out, and now you do. You can do whatever you want with this information. You can deny it further by shifting your argument to just being that she didn't want to be rude, which is absurd but hey, it's your life. Or you can incorporate something you didn't know into your knowledge of her character and the scene and adjust your view. Either way, it's no skin off my back. I've given you the facts you weren't aware of despite your insistence that it's just people making stuff up and "mind worms", I've shown that you were the one not aware of the details, I've done everything I can for you to broaden your understanding of the game. It's up to you what you do with this information. I'm sad you're choosing to continue coping and denying and making excuses, but that's your right. I hope you enjoy a long and fruitful relationship with Shart.

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The very first blast of Halsin's seed into Shadowheart while you are asleep or leave them at camp, permanently changes her "scent."
This is a druid thing, he essentially completely marks her as his. Even though he allows you to be with her, the scent transformation is always there to remind both of you about his ownership of her.

>>502480247
It's been over a year when will you move on? Aren't you and Minthara happily married? Why are you still obsessed with shadowheart?

>>502480247
not him but what do you make of astarion also disapproving if you tell halsin no

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bros why does Shadowheart disapprove if she can't get a Goodberry pie? I can't figure it out

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If the player is romancing Halsin in Act 3?

>>502480247
>she has been doing it before you asked
The "it" in question being finding an attractive person attractive, something that happens in every relationship on the planet, but is triggering for kissless virgins who think life is a disney cartoon and all sexual function is disabled except for that one person. No married man ever found an actress attractive, that's cheating!

>you weren't aware of
No, I'm aware of it, we've had this running conversation for over a year now, you've been wrong in the exact same way for a really long time, there isn't anything new to introduce to the conversation. You take lines out of context, misrepresent them to get a meme across, and interpret everything through a lens of autism and romantic inexperience. It isn't that I'm just unaware of your devastating arguments, it's that your unintelligent, inarticulate, and wrong.

Thread theme
>https://youtu.be/b0tN7JCqZhw?si=p-3rTp-p0lYD54Ww

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IF the PLAYER is romancing HALSIN in Act 3.

>>502479649
>It is a self evident truth
Then it's no longer a matter of interpretation, and we can all go home with the useful knowledge that 2+2 = 4. On the other hand, if a large group of people are somehow too autistic or stupid to get it, then it's no longer self-evident, and becomes a matter of personal interpretation. It can't be both 0 and 1.
>Because it is.
It isn't. There is a degree of separation between the fantasy of an actor/actress and someone with whom you can actually have an orgy. In one case, something can happen; in the other, it's just fantasy. The difference should be self-evident and not a matter of interpretation.
>No, I correctly interpreted your actions
You think you do, because you're autistic and lack 4chan experience. Is that the trendy insult?

>>502480452
>companion, we are going to engage in sex with these people I find attractive
>no, you can't have one
It's obvious to anyone normal, which is why they can't get it.

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Where did this shadowheart go?

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If
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>>502480746
that wasn't what i was asking him. but uh its fucked up to pressure someone into fucking a person they're not attracted to. like if tav isn't into halsin, thats that. shart or astarion getting mad about that is creepy. maybe its a bug

>>502480786
Died in Act 2

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if
THE PLAYER
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>>502480704
>if a large group of people are somehow too autistic or stupid to get it, then it's no longer self-evident
No. Gathering a critical mass of retards into one place or thread doesn't change reality. Correct is still correct, incorrect is still incorrect. The Earth doesn't flatten because you hold a convention for flat Earthers.

>There is a degree of separation between the fantasy of an actor/actress and someone with whom you can actually have an orgy.
No. It is normal to be in a relationship and still find other people attractive. And if your significant other then asks you to have group sex with that person, totally unprompted, that doesn't magically disappear. This is obvious, but you're really upset about not being able to understand self-evident things, or even the difference between fact and opinion, and so you're just using it as a hamfisted attempt to rubber-and-glue again. Unfortunately, you're not smart enough to pull it off, and fucked up the attempt. Maybe next time?

>>502480786
shadowheart may have meant to be monogamous back in EA but by the time the game came around, she was written to want to fuck halsin no matter what.

>>502480552
This has also already been explained to you. Thinking someone is attractive is not the same thing as repeatedly over time fantasizing about having sex with them. This is a false equivalency, and this has already been explained to you.

It's also a false equivalency to try to use a celebrity as an example when in this situation it's your mutual friend standing right there. Fantasizing about a celebrity that you will never meet is not the same thing as fantasizing about Craig from accounting that you and your boyfriend play scrabble with every weekend. It's completely different. One is never going to happen, while the second is right there temptation. If your spouse is repeatedly fantasizing about your buddy, it's different. This has also already been explained to you.

And yes, you obviously were not aware of it, which is why you tried to use the premise that she's only lying for your benefit. You didn't know that she actually has a dissapproval tag if you back out, otherwise you would not have tried to say she's only lying. You don't have a real dissapproval if you're lying. It defeats your premise and you walked into it because you didn't know about the dissapproval tag.

The fact that you're just saying "you'e dumb you're dishonest you're lying" over and over now as some childish personal attack also says a lot about you. I have plainly cited the game for you and given you information only, while you're acting like a 12 year old now. I joked about you coping because it's literally what you're doing, you changed your argument to "well she's just lying" when people showed you what she says in the game, then when people showed you evidence that she's not lying and actually dissapproves you changed again to "well she just didn't want to be rude". It's cope anon. You're coping hard. It's proven by how you keep needing to shift your premise. I'm saying it's your right to do that, but you're not being logical. You accuse others of "mind worms" from the start.

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Never 4get

>>502480994
>but uh its fucked up to pressure someone into fucking a person they're not attracted to
They're not really pressuring you. Disapproval isn't always voiced, and in that particular instance it isn't. It's an extremely minor -1 which is used to represent the most minor disappointment or disagreement possible. Astarion isn't coming back to the topic after you reject it to try and push you into anything.

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>If the player is romancing Halsin in Act 3

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Which one of you is this

>>502481268
>Thinking someone is attractive is not the same thing as repeatedly over time fantasizing about having sex with them
It generally is, finding someone attractive is shorthand for "I find them fuckable", and you're also greatly overstating the case and pretending like Shadowheart is just breathlessly fantasizing about it every night based on an autistic, overly literal interpretation of a line. This has already been explained to you, yet evades your grasp like fine mist.

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>Shart laying back, exhausted from Halsin's pounding
>Daddy Halsin sitting back with his pipe, supervising your clean-up
>"mmmnfurfnfmmm nurmomnurghh good mmm arrmgfrnmm mmm goodberry good"

>"Slow down, Tav! You'll make yourself sick!
>"There will be plenty more Goodberry Pie for you later :)"

>>502481431
>filename

Oh that’s so embarrassing for you

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>>502481431

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Feels good being a Frogchad

>>502481306
there shouldn't be a disapproval at all. why doesn't astarion not respect your sexual boundaries all of a sudden

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Shart... how could you do this to me...

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“If the player,” “in Act 3” “is romancing Halsin,”

How embarrassing

>>502481653
He does. If he didn't, he'd fuck Halsin despite you saying no, or attempt to pressure you into it. Instead, he just silently says "aw man" to himself like a child that was told he couldn't get ice cream, and goes on with your request for him to fuck people he just met and may or may not be attracted to.

How much you guys wanna bet they'll take out the disapprovals after Reddit's crying

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>If the player
>is romancing Halsin
>in Act 3

>>502481902
they won't do shit

This guy posted about romancing Halsin and then proceeded to spam his gay reaction image folder for the rest of the day to hype his own post up, nobody cares you fucking queer

porn has warped your brain if you think it's ok for your partner to dream about sex with other men

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>>502481639

trad larper memes have warped your brain if you think being in a relationship prevents you from finding other people attractive

your eyesight is warped

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>huh... why are talsin and shart's bedrolls both empty again? it's probably nothing

your eyesight is warped if you think lazy is attractive

>>502482145
she had wet dreams about him...

your esl is showing when someone said
>sex dreams
and you see
>attractiion

>>502481104
Personal opinions are not objective math, or an observable law of physics. Repeatedly claiming something is self-evident doesn't magically make it the truth, to say nothing of the fact that it directly contradicts your previous claim that it's open to interpretation, a test only autistic and virginal people would fail. You're not as smart as you'd like to be, or maybe you're too dishonest to remember your own words, pick your poison.

>Correct is still correct, incorrect is still incorrect.
>No. It is normal to be in a relationship and still find other people attractive
"Other people." A random celebrity and someone you interact with on a daily basis are not the same. There is a degree of separation you've failed to address, once again, like the weasel you are.

And you've decided this the "correct" way for everyone in a couple to think? You cracked the code of all relationships, and maybe even the human condition too? What about autistic people who somehow manage the miracle of getting in a relationship? Would their divergent way of thinking be "incorrect" then?

THE ONLY CANON THAT MATTERS IS THE REAL CANON, THE OBJECTIVE, MATHEMATICALLY PROVEN CANON, THAT WAS LEFT INTENTIONALLY UNDEFINED. AND THAT CANON STATES, NOT ARGUES, STATES THAT SHADOWHEART IS A WHORE.

>>502482412
>still find other people attractive
sex dreams

>>502482501
she's objectively a whore

>>502481902
The game is SUPPOSED to humiliate the people into cuckening. Not to shame them but to edge them. Those types get off on the humiliation that is what that fetish is about.
It won't get changed.

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Would Tav stand up and do the right thing and raise Shart and Halsin's kid?

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>>502482501
The real canon, the objective, mathematically proven canon, that was left intentionally undefined: If the player is romancing Halsin in Act 3

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he's real

>>502481902
won't matter because everyone already knows she's a whore

>>502482703
You into cuck shit?

>>502482871
Of course, that's why I love the Shadowheart romance

>>502482412
>Personal opinions are not objective math
Agreed. This isn't a personal opinion, this is an objective statement of fact about the dialogue and order of events. I know you don't understand it, either because you're incapable or because you're stuck trying to one-up the person that made you look stupid and you need to 'win', but again this is just how it is. You can keep pretending that imagining lines that don't exist and events that never happen is just an opinion, but that's all you'll be doing, pretending. Meanwhile, two and two is still four.

>"Other people." A random celebrity and someone you interact with on a daily basis are not the same.
No married man has ever found his wife's friend attractive in history, that would be cuckoldry! Right? No.

>well what if some other autist managed to date somebody and was still wrong what then!?!
Well, then they'd still be wrong. You're wrong because of being a virginal autist, that doesn't preclude somebody else from being wrong for different reasons, but it also remains a fact that you'd both be demonstrably incorrect about objective reality. I don't know how to make this any more clear for you. It's possible that without finding some advance in neuroscience that allows me to treat autism via text that you'll never understand, that the idea is beyond you, like a bird trying to understand rockets.

>>502482501
Lmao

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>>502482848
guess who's also real

>>502482949
>unironic cuck
might as well be a brony lol

>>502482848
hot

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The real canon.
The objective, mathematically proven canon.
The canon that keeps you up at night.

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isn't it crazy the last bastion they have is
>welllll sex dreams is the same as finding people attractive

I see we've gone full circle and back to Shart cuckposting

>>502483239
It's crazy that you continue to pretend the sex dreams are even real, a year later. You've had over a year of repetitive shitposting to perfect your arguments, and still you can't help but look like a gaggle of retards.

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>>502481440
No, it's not. I think Cate as Hela is incredibly attractive, especially when her hair is down, but I do not fantasize about having sex with her. Thinking a celebrity is hot is not the same thing as sexual fantasies. Shart affirms that she's had repeated, over time "more than a few times" explicitly sexual fantasies about Halsin, not just that he's hot. You are downplaying what she actually said and making false equivalencies. You also didn't even attempt to address the fact that fantasizing about someone you will never meet is different than fantasizing about your mutual friend Craig who is sitting right there in front of her. Not addressing what people said is dishonest and a form of concession.

But you know what? The fact that you're not even properly addressing arguments, the fact that you came into this with the presupposed conviction that everyone who disagrees with you is just "brain worms" then you were the one proven to have the facts wrong, the fact that you keep making dishonest false equivalencies, the fact that you've had to backpedal twice because you didn't know the line is before you ask the twins for sex and you didn't know that Shart actually dissapproves of NOT having sex, the fact that almost everything you've said can be reframed as just accusing people of shitposting despite the fact that I have stuck strictly to facts, and the fact that your current third premise you've shifted to is that Shart engages in this sexual encounter because....she didn't want to be rude, I think we're done here. You've bumbled several times just not knowing pertinent facts and walking into saying something already contradicted by the game. Any fair observers sees that you're in the wrong here. You're free to do whatever you want in your own game, you're free to repeat that she was just lying or that she was just trying not to be rude, you're free to say it's normal. It's funny, but it's your right. Enjoy your waifu, and I mean that. I'm happy for you.

>>502483037
we were robbed

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>pretend
that's the neat thing, you don't have to, here it is in her own words

>>502483239
He doesn't really have a last bastion to fall back on.

>>502483309
>SeranaLevelsUpOneHandedSkill
holy cringe

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>threads full of back and forth arguing about cucking
What the fuck happend? What triggered this?

>>502482984
>No married man has ever found his wife's friend attractive in history
Believe it or not, this could count as emotional cheating for some (keyword) people, and may warrant a serious discussion. Maybe fantasizing about [attractive actress] isn't the same as fantasizing about the wife's friend you have a brunch with every Sunday.

It's all about degrees of separation, nuances, in other words, a spectrum (not the autism one). And it's about how each individual views these things. You reducing this to a 1-or-0, yes-or-no, true-or-false matter ironically paints you as more autistic than the icky autistic individuals you love to insult.

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“The real canon” she sighed. “The objective, mathematically proven canon.” *smirk* “The canon that was left intentionally undefined.” *leans forward into your ear* “If the player is romancing Halsin in Act 3”

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I'm tired of everyone here kinkshaming me for being a cuck. Been in the lifestyle for over a decade ever since my wife suggested that including Jamal in the bedroom would spice up our love life. Never looked back. And now finally Larian risks controversy by representing the cuck community. Shadowheart is the romance I DESERVE. You don't just get to shit all over it.

>>502483605
sharties refusal to accept reality to the point where they're making mods to cope and then everyone laughing at them like the retards that they are and then the sharties would throw thread long tantrums

>>502483605
Probably the obsessfag brony going nuts

>>502483605
Evens: It's all Mintharafag's fault!
Odds: It's all Mintharafag's fault!

Add some whiny passive-aggressive comment from the totally-not-obsessed worthless pig fuck.

>>502483309
Namefag, let me be clear: you're an incredible dishonest, unintelligent, and weird person. I don't believe you for a second that you don't masturbate your tiny wee wee to Cate, but even if you did, using your behavior as the yardstick by which normal people are measured is absurd.

>Shart affirms that she's had repeated, over time "more than a few times" explicitly sexual fantasies about Halsin
No, she says she's thought about him after her partner suggests she engage in group sex as a way of signaling her agreement and breaking the ice. You then add all sorts of attachments to it that aren't there because it furthers a meme, either deliberately to engage in shitposting, or accidentally because you're not smart enough to know any better. Regardless, all this stuff about frequency or intensity is made up, something you've projected onto canon from the hamster wheel in your head.

>then you were the one proven to have the facts wrong
Not even once. You do the same things you've always done - you post things out of context, or lie, misrepresent, and then repeat yourself tirelessly until I eventually close the tab, and then you take the other party's reluctance to continue entertaining your retardation as a sign that you've won something. Your biggest advantage in an argument isn't the facts, because they disagree with you, it's that you're a special mixture of boring, stupid, insipid, and lifeless which allows you to maintain these arguments for years at a time until everyone just leaves you to it and you delude yourself into believing you were right all along before making the journey to inflict yourself upon another general. It's happening again.

>>502483697
Kek the only good poster in this entire shit thread

>>502483605
cute frog

>>502482984
>No married man has ever found his wife's friend attractive in history, that would be cuckoldry! Right? No.
There's a huge difference between finding someone attractive and acting on that attraction. For example I think my friend's gf is hot, but I'm not going to pull her aside and start making moves on her.

>>502483884
>90 seconds delta
sad to behold

>>502483606
>for some
And those people are insane, and not worth taking seriously. If your definition of cuckoldry is so expansive that it includes scenarios where your girlfriend refuses to have group sex until you've slept together separately, then engages in group sex only at your prompting and only with those partners you approve of and only with your active participant, then words don't really mean anything to you and conversation is no longer possible.

>You reducing this to a 1-or-0, yes-or-no, true-or-false matter
I'm not reducing it, that's what it is. Words mean things.

>>502483975
Nah, people are all the same. There is no nuance, only correct and incorrect. Correct is my interpretation, and incorrect is yours. That's because you never had sex like me.

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>>502483884
seth rogen doobie

>>502483605
m*ntharafag

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>>502483876
i know esls like you have a hard time with english but here she's using past tense, which means she already thought about sex with halsin BEFORE the event

>>502483975
>but I'm not going to pull her aside and start making moves on her
Nobody suggested otherwise. You people take simple statements and start stretching them coast to coast beyond the context of the conversation. The context is that Shadowheart found someone attractive, just like you think your friend's girlfriend is attractive, and that was the end of it until someone prompted her to engage in group sex and invited that person in, prompting an awkward statement of agreeableness from her. When your girlfriend demands you to fuck her and your friend's girlfriend, you'll have a comparison.

>>502484346
Why the long face?

>>502483605
Frog would be pretty as fuck if it wasn't for that nose.

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>>502484365
>The context is that Shadowheart found someone attractive
no the context is she's dreamt about sex with someone else while in a relationship with you. you're already being dishonest by framing it as otherwise

>>502484346
>Regardless, all this stuff about frequency or intensity is made up, something you've projected onto canon from the hamster wheel in your head.
Focus. Read. I know you usually lose arguments when other people notice you're ESL, but it isn't an I-win button, you can't cargo cult yourself into a win by repeating their words in a context where it no longer makes sense. Apply yourself.

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The real canon. The objective, mathematically proven canon.

The canon that was left intentionally undefined.

From this, we can intuit a more… Genteel Nature.

Do you understand?

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>>502484486
lae'zel is beautiful inside and out

>>502484486
Its a shame all the women are ugly in one way or another. I would have prioritized beauty if so much of my game revolved around sex.

>>502484540
hey what does past tense mean

>>502484661
There is a paladin of Selune romancing a modded Shadowheart as we speak

>>502484534
>she's dreamt
Oh wow, I didn't realize it was so serious. One time I dreamt my wife murdered me so I had her arrested for murder. Dreams are serious business.

No just kidding, you people are retarded. A dream means nothing, and further you're taking a line so literally and devoid of context or normal human behaviors it's like you're editing wookiepedia.

>>502484720
It means it happened before, for example when your Mom states she USED TO enjoy her life, she's talking about the before time, before you were born and she was saddled with a lifetime of tard wrangling. You're arguing an irrelevant point that nobody ever denied because you're unintelligent, bad at reading, inarticulate, and just kind of dopey.

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>>502484636

>>502484873
ohhhhh so she's already dreamt of sex with halsin, thank you for your admission!

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Do you understand now?
>Do you understand now?
Do you understand now?
>Do you understand now?

If the player is romancing Halsin in Act 3, we can intuit from these dialogues a more…gentle nature.

>>502484951
Yes, she found him attractive, something we've covered for 100+ posts. Congratulations on almost catching up. Maybe in a few more years of effort you'll figure out why it doesn't matter.

let this be the last thread

>>502485094
>she found him attractive
sex dream

>>502483876
This is one long personal attack with no substance, so I'll reiterate the things you had wrong, so I can stick to the facts while you whine and immaturely attack. I will be the better person.

You claimed that Shart lies to you in order to support you in your quest for an orgy, but this is proven incorrect by the fact that she has an actual dissapproval tag if you back out, meaning she was not hiding her feelings or lying, she actually is dissapointed if you back out.

You then tried to shift to saying well she just didn't want to be rude to Halsin, but this is an absurd unknowable assumption that contradicts convention, since you don't engage in orgies if you don't want to engage in orgies because you...don't want to appear rude. It's absurd. If you're opposed to orgies, you don't do it. Thus Shart is not opposed.

You then claimed that sexual fantasies are normal, and tried to use the fact that everyone thinks some celebrities are hot as proof, but this is a false equivalency because appreciating someone's beauty is not the same thing as sexual fantasies. You have failed to justify sexual fantasies on the grounds that some celebrities are admired.

You then also tried to use the fact that many people fantasize about celebrities as proof that Shart's comments towards Halsin are normal, but this is a false equivalency because fantasizing about someone you will never meet is not the same thing as Craig sitting right there. One can never happen, while the other is sitting right there It's a false equivalency.

You even tried to lie about what she even said. The conversation is about sex with Halsin, and she says she's fantasized about this more than a few times. You later tried to say she was just being supportive. She claimed to have repeated explicit sex fantasies about him.

Everything you've said is downplaying, excuses, or just straight up wrong because you lacked details as we've demonstrated multiple times. You're free to cope and stay with her.

>>502485094
Wild how she tries to cuck the player after 60 hours of playtime.

>>502485082
omg

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>>502485189
holy fuck minthara stop he's already cucked

Why don't you just kill halsin? In fact I'm sure majority of people don't suffer his act 3 antics because he's usually their kidnap victim.

>>502485206
Does the one fan of this game really deserve better?
>>502485390
You might be a sociopath.

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Enter

>>502485169
If you take an autistic and overly literal interpretation of a line, sure. Doesn't mean anything, and maybe with a bit more reading and some tutoring you'll crack the code as to why.

>>502485189
It is a personal attack, because you're a worm of a person, but it does have substance. You're not smart enough to understand the substance, no matter how plainly laid out, hence why my uncontrollable desire to personally attack you because you're so pathetic and beneath me, but it's there.

>You claimed that Shart lies to you in order to support you in your quest for an orgy
Never happened. This is you having poor reading comprehension, which is the root cause of most of your problems.

>You then claimed that sexual fantasies are normal, and tried to use the fact that everyone thinks some celebrities are hot as proof, but this is a false equivalency because appreciating someone's beauty is not the same thing as sexual fantasies
No, when people find someone attractive, they mean in a sexual context. You're lying when you say you don't because you think it'll help you win an argument you lost a year ago, but it doesn't. Sexual fantasies are normal, people find other people attractive, Shadowheart rejects group sex outright until you've had your moment together, and only pursues it at your direction and only with those partners you approve of, those are the facts. You'll continue being wrong because you're a buffoon, or a buffoon pretending to be a namefag buffoon, but you're wrong.

>>502485440
Why is her face so long?

words have meanings

a sex dream is a sex dream

>>502485390
shadowheart is still into orgies she knows what she did

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>>502485634
God made her that way uwu

>>502485659
>oh yeah well what if I say the same thing gotcha!
Pathetic, you can't even do it in a contextually appropriate way.

>>502485659
>she even tries to cuck you in her dreams
insidious game. My heart goes out to anyone that got caught up in that whore's games.

>>502483037
someone pls remove the beard

that's the beauty about facts, it doesn't need context nor can it ever be a gotcha

If __ _____ is _______ _____ in __ 3

>>502485440
Did you know I dream of degen sex with Halsin nightly?

>>502485872
It isn't a fact, it's just a group of retards giggling to themselves that they can say up is down and then when someone corrects them they pretend it's the same. "Well you say up is up and I say up is down it's just a matter of opinion man!"

And then when you try to explain the difference between fact and opinion, "haha oh yeah well something something math gotcha!" its just fucking dull. Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be stupid? Do you ever wonder if spending hours like this is actually making you even dumber than you were before?

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>>502483037
hot

>projecting his own up is down onto others

>>502485872
This doesn't sit well with the cuckolds.

The confrontational and talkative frogposter

>>502486102
Exactly what I mean. I'm right, you're wrong, no amount of shitposting and repetitive "no you!" will fix that.

>>502486046
Just accept the L bro. John creams himself at night to the thought of Halsin deepthroating Shart

>>502484069
>And those people are insane, and not worth taking seriously.
How convenient. If you're the only sane person in this asylum, one might be inclined to start listening to the crazies.

>Words mean things.
Yes. Sometimes they mean different things to people. People who are different and have different opinions. Consider the term "autistic," which you've been misusing as an insult this whole time. Maybe some autistic individuals would take it as a compliment, while others get offended. Words do have meaning, but that meaning is, by definition, open to interpretation. Enough of these words put together and you've got a Mintharafag post. Words are not some recipe, or some code you feed to a compiler, which eventually returns a bunch of errors or not. But this isn't about semantics.

What is it about the concept of boundaries being deeply personal that is so foreign to you? What is okay for you might not be okay for someone else. There is no "correct" opinion to have on intimate boundaries. And since you equate some distant celebrity/actress with a wife's friend (they're all technically "other people"), it doesn't paint a credible picture of your understanding of social relationships.

>>502486197
better a short life based on truth than immortality woven of lies

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He is perfect

>>502486320
John doesn't even sound like a russian name.

and ever time you throw a reality denial tantrum everyone can see what you are and turn more against shart

>>502486386
I now remember the drow poster that pretended to like Gale for godhood

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>>502486396
Astarion, but as a well-educated and intellectually promising younger man with a quick, easy smile

We love Halsin, polyamory and sex workers. Don't like it? The door is that way ------>

>>502486664
>he's now begging people to stop humiliating him

The shadowheart hater must get off on psychological abuse or something

>>502486320
I'll accept the W. You had a horde of shitposting meme tards swarming the thread, and between all of you and a year of prep time you couldn't conjure up a single cogent point even once. It's a dozen short bus anons stumbling over themselves to see who can be worse at reading comprehension.

>>502486376
>how convenient
Not really, it makes conversation here a drag.

>Sometimes they mean different things to people
Yes, sometimes. Not this time. This time the facts are pretty clear, and you either agree with them and me, or you're wrong. This is a black and white matter of correct and incorrect, not an opinion. You keep trying to make it one, and it never will be.

>>502486459
More of your up is down nonsense. You are denying reality, plain and simple. If that turns the inbred hills have eyes illiterate discorders left in bgg against shart, oh well. Wrong you are, wrong you'll be.

>>502486830
Their name is Mintharafag and you will give them their due respect

>>502486830
That is very common with people from russia.

>>502486830
He loves it

>>502485602
>and only pursues it at your direction and only with those partners you approve of, those are the facts.
Ah, you walked into another mistake because you lack knowledge on the topic. This is the third time. This is actually false. When you approach her in camp when Halsin asks to interject into your relationship, she actually approves and encourages you to do it, and one of her lines is "I'll have my own fun", meaning while you're off with him, she's going to do the same thing. She's loose and polyamorous, so not only is it not a big deal for her when you want to have sex with him, she just casually says she's going to do the same thing. She doesn't say with whom, she doesn't do it at your request, and she doesn't say who she's doing it with. I find it funny that you walked into this one so perfectly, again because you don't actually know what you're talking about. You said something just plainly false.

You're also lying about what you said, which is weird because this is public forum with text to simply cite >>502476898. It's not a "nicety" and it's not her saying "yeah sure he's attractive", it's her saying she's had multiple explicitly sexual dreams about him over time. You've been dishonest about the line itself from the start.

While we're on topic of blatantly lying, I also find it funny that your original premise was that "it doesn't exist", and you were so adamant that you even called everyone who disagrees with you shitposters and had brain worms. We see you saying that several times, above and below and including this post >>502476454, yet here we are discussing it 100 posts later and you backpedaling several times and you're downplaying even when proven wrong, needing to make false equivalencies to downplay it, needing to adjust your claims several times, being proven wrong about claims you've made three times now, and all these things. It's pretty interesting for something that doesn't exist. Really activates the almonds.

>>502486901
What is it about the concept of boundaries being deeply personal that is so foreign to you? Why can't you accept that a husband fantasizing about the wife's friend might be okay for some wives but not others? Is it different for lesbian couples?

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>>502487124
holy shit mintharafag stop curbstomping his corpse

>>502487219
>shadowheart says lesbians don't exist and any woman that doesn't want halsin has a cobwebbed pussy
how did john get away with this

>>502487124
>This is actually false
It isn't, because we were discussing the group sex scene, and you've expanded the scope of the statement beyond intent so you can force a bad point. But that's okay, because you're incompetent you fucked that up to.

>When you approach her in camp when Halsin asks to interject into your relationship, she actually approves and encourages you to do it, and one of her lines is "I'll have my own fun", meaning while you're off with him, she's going to do the same thing.
In other words she requests that you not have an open relationship, you then approach her about an open relationship anyways, and so she - again, at your prompting, your direction - goes along with whatever will apparently make Tav happy, despite her own feelings that she clearly expressed earlier.

And what happens if Tav doesn't approach her with this offer, or rejects it from Halsin? Nothing. She doesn't pressure him to go back, she doesn't bring it up, because she has no interest in it.

>You're also lying about what you said
Not even once, which is why you can't point out the actual discrepancy, you can only link to the post and hope to waft a vague sense of discrepancy towards it. You are projecting details onto her statement that don't exist in support of a shitposter meme, which requires an autistic literal interpretation of words mixed with assuming "thought about it" translates to whatever raunchy fantasy you imagined.

>you backpedaling
Again, not even once. You have poor reading comprehension and often misinterpret both in-game dialogue and the plain English here explaining why you're stupid, and that causes you to come to all sorts of incorrect conclusions.

>>502487682
Any mods to fix this ugliness?

>>502487387
>What is it about the concept of boundaries being deeply personal that is so foreign to you
Nothing, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Trying to converse with you monkeys is just one non sequitur after another. I say something simple and true, one of you can't read, one of you replies with a tangent, one of your misinterprets, one of you goes off in another direction, and before you know it you've dragged the conversation miles off course and you're basically talking to yourself.

Your personal boundaries being so weird and fucked up that you think dreams are real has nothing to do with what actually happens in-game. I'm sorry, I know it would be great for your argument if that weren't the case, but it is.

>>502487909
God made her that way unfortunately

>>502488114
The game isn't popular enough to get mods? Even starfield has mods.

>>502488180
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/13743

>>502487963
>non-sequiturs
>tangents
Speaking of words and their meaning. The example about a husband fantasizing about his wife's friend was the one YOU gave:
>No married man has ever found his wife's friend attractive in history, that would be cuckoldry! Right? No.
And now it's just a tangent that no longer needs addressing? Dishonest, but you've established that since the start. There is only correct and incorrect, honesty and dishonesty. A shame you chose the latter.

Are we done yet? Can we finally talk about the way larian treated wyll?

>>502488395
Wyll is fine he doesn't end up ruining the game like the various female companions.

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>>502488326
Yes, that was an example I gave to try and get you to understand the absurdity of your position that sexual attraction to sexually attractive people terminates the moment someone checks the Y box on your will-you-be-my-boyfriend note. You then took that into a wild direction and pretended like the issue at hand was a lack of understanding of boundaries, because you're subpar in the brains category. I'm sure even after this recap you'll fail to understand the original course of the conversation and how you skewed off into retardsville.

whens patch 8 coming out

Playing a paladin (vengeance) is pretty fun. Normally I really hate and am uncomfortable doing aggressive/rude dialogue options, but I feel like I actually have a bit of an excuse to use them as paladin. Both the [Paladin] options and just in general. It's kinda nice. Still stuck on figuring out what exactly I want my characters personality to be though. Being a vengeance pally makes the whole lawful good thing weird

>>502488581
Larian isn't allowed to work on this IP anymore it will have to come as a mod like how The Raven does mods for Thief games now.

How do I avoid screwing up playing through the main story?

>>502485771
Post the Shar statue kiss

>>502488581
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/3347878489035336762

>>502488573
omg you retard they're talking about flicking your bean and fantasizing about someone, not just thinking they're hot. do you think its fine to fantasize about your best friends wife?

>>502488573
The insults become harsher as a form of deflection, so I guess we're done here. Take comfort in knowing you've made Mintharafag look like the saner person, again. Good job.

>>502487759
Again, it's weird that you would lie about something in plain text to cite. In this post >>502485602 your exact words are "only pursues it at your direction and only with those partners you approve of", which is proven incorrect by the scene where she says she's going to go do it on her own and with people she doesn't disclose to you. This is a direct quote from the game, and it's directly related to your claim that she only does it when and with whom you say. You are factually incorrect regarding Shart's polyamory related behavior, which is the actual larger topic of this discussion. You have been proven wrong about a third claim you have made because you didn't know what the character actually says, and you're dishonestly trying to say "well that was a different conversation" as if that suddenly makes what she said not something she said. Your claim was factually incorrect and proof has been supplied, a direct quote from the game. It doesn't matter if it happened later that night at camp instead of in the brothel.

I just linked where you lied. Your exact words in this post >>502476898 were "When you ask her afterwards, she will do so purely because it's what you want, and will then acknowledge being attracted to a participant as an ice breaker nicety". This is proven to be a falsehood, because 1) a disapproval tag proves that she's not masking her feelings and 2) the claim that someone would engage in an orgy she's opposed to rather than be rude is absurd. it contradicts convention. This has already been explained to you and rather than try to address it, you just blatantly lie and say you don't know what I'm talking about. I quoted the post in my previous post. Stop dodging.

I have demonstrated all three times you've backpedaled and explained all three in detail. Simple contradiction "no I haven't" is not an argument. All of them are presented clearly in these two posts >>502487124 >>502485189 and so far you have failed to address them.

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everyone calm down and take a choccy milk

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>>502488710
The power of logic

I'm stuck in Act 1. I can't get past the door leading away from the Nautiloid crash site.

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Don't let this back-and-forth exercise of autism distract you from the fact that Astarion was BONED by Godey and that's freaking HILARIOUS.

Having your own modded headcanon for Shart, and just calling John a pervert that inserted his nasty fetishes into the game is a more reasonable position than whatever this Shartfag is doing right now

>>502488771
>they're talking about flicking your bean and fantasizing about someone
Yes, which is also normal. Every married man in America watching Game of Thrones masturbated to Daenerys at least once. People masturbate all the time. Do you think married couples only ever masturbate to each other? You people are children.

>>502488834
I'm not even really insulting you, you're demonstrably bad at reading and consistently can't follow a thread of conversation, which happens all the time here. Poor reading comprehension is a really bad thing to have when you're trying to engage in text-based discussion.

>>502488728
i will later i pwomise

>>502489469
Good

>>502489384
Johnonovich getting his fetish lambasted is normal. Some fetishes are simply unjustifiable.

>>502489396
ok but it's VERY different when it's a celebrity vs someone you both know personally

>>502489396
>Do you think married couples only ever masturbate to each other?
Well, they either do, or they don't. There is only correct, and incorrect. Fantasies about an actress? Acceptable. Fantasies about the wife's friend? Also acceptable. Fantasies about the wife's sister? Unclear, but the answer exists and it's either yes or no. People are all the same. There is no need for nuance when examining the kaleidoscope of possible human relationships, fellow human being. Beep boop. And Mintharafag is supposed to be the autistic one?

>>502488859
Your retarded in so many ways it makes it hard to correct you in the character limit.

>"only pursues it at your direction and only with those partners you approve of", which is proven incorrect by the scene where she says she's going to go do it on her own
It isn't proven incorrect, you just have poor reading comprehension again. What is actually happening is that Shadowheart has told you that she does not want an open relationship, you force the issue, she concedes but then tells you that if it's open for you it is open for her. It isn't like she approaches you out of the blue and says she's going to fuck Minsc. You are misrepresenting dialogue, events, and the nature of both because you're a neanderthal. It's a clear "oh...oh yeah, well uh...I'll do it too!" moment, but you have autism so you interpret it in a way that is comically incorrect and makes you an obsessive meme fag for a year.

>You have been proven wrong about a third claim you have made because you didn't know what the character actually says
Never happened. Like basically everything else you claim, it was a mixture of you not being able to read and maintain context. There have been zero cases of you introducing previously unknown dialogue to the conversation. What happens is that I recount the dialogue and the correct context and meaning, and because this conflicts with your zoo animal howlings about how your head canon is real I must be unfamiliar, don't know, etc. No, I know the game perfectly well, you're just wrong.

>Your exact words were...
It is never proven to be a falsehood. Everything I said was exactly correct and remains so. She does not pursue it until you do, she does so only at your direction, and only to the extent you allow. This is true in every example. You suggest she have sex with several partners you introduce and are implicitly attracted to, she joins in the same spirit, if you reject Halsin she gives the games most minor disapproval and proceeds as you direct.

>>502489838
He’s too logically challenged to be a real autistic. Mintharafag is what happens when a young male in crisis never leaves his bedroom

>>502489882
You forgot to put your name on bud.

>>502490004
Ouch

once I started bg3 I stopped masturbating to my bf completely lmao

>>502489396
You're still failing to address the false equivalency you're making. You've been doing this for a dozen posts now and I have pointed out the error multiple times, but you're dishonestly avoiding it in order to still try to use this as a premise. Fantasizing about a celebrity is not the same thing as fantasizing about your mutual friend Craig who is sitting right there at the dinner table. One is a fantasy that will never happen and can never happen, while the second is your partner considering something that could easily happen and if they're ever actually tempted they could make happen. It's different. This has been explained to you multiple times and you've failed to address it.

You're also still wrong about the nature of the fantasy. Shart admits to repeated, explicitly sexual fantasies with Halsin. When he asks if you want him as part of your sexual encounter, her response is to say she's actually already been thinking about this more than a few times. The topic is sex, not romance or flirting or teasing or foreplay. It's having sex. She says she's already been dreaming of it more than a few times. It's pretty plain. All of your arguments based on the premise that she's just being nice, or she's lying to be supportive, or it's totally normal for people to do that fall flat when you actually examine the line itself. It's explicitly about sex not anything more innocent, she dissapproves if you say no which means she wasn't just lying to be nice, and she's already been doing it over time so it's not her jut liking the idea when you bring it up. This is laid out plain. John had a clear intention with this word choice. What you're doing is essentially plugging your ears and saying you don't agree. Even on matters of fact, like when the line takes place or what exactly it's in response to.

But as I've said, it's your right to make excuses and downplay what she said. But don't spread that misinformation to others, who might want to align with facts.

>>502489882
>What is actually happening is that Shadowheart has told you that she does not want an open relationship, you force the issue, she concedes but then tells you
literally the opposite happens in the halsin convo. she says she's glad the player picked on her being open to poly and says in an annoyed tone that other lovers in the past didn't pick up on it. her flirting with halsin is intentional. the player is supposed to pick up that shart would like an open relationship

>>502489790
Not really, no. Every wife has a hot friend, ever husband has masturbated to her.

>>502489838
You would have a point if the question were about a specific instance and not a broad concept. Unfortunately it is about a broad concept, so you've made a clown of yourself again in your need to "no, you!" about getting called autistic earlier. You are severely autistic. Nametranny is too, make no mistake, but you're closing in on him.

>>502490004
Everything I have said is logically correct, which is why the replies have been so piss poor.

>>502490238
>You're still failing to address the false equivalency you're making.
Because I'm not making one. You're seeing one because you're unable to read, and you're unable to let go of your head canon misinterpretations and cuckold fantasies. 2,000 characters isn't enough to correct you thoroughly because you lie in every sentence, it's a Gish Gallop with a retarded horse.

>>502490386
>Every wife has a hot friend, ever husband has masturbated to her
Sounds like a douchebag husband

>>502490386
>Every wife has a hot friend, ever husband has masturbated to her.
yeah it's normal but you usually don't tell your partner that

For me? It’s innocently holding hands and sharing a heartfelt kiss beneath a full moon followed by eye-gazing and gentle missionary

>>502487682
the boys reading books.

>>502490360
Nope. She says she doesn't want to share, and she remains true to that until the end of the game unless the player approaches Halsin, talks to Halsin about romance, and agrees with Halsin to engage in an open relationship contrary to Shadowheart's earlier wishes. Shadowheart agrees. The fundamental problem, besides your low IQ, is that people here seem to think conversations that don't occur in game still occur in game, i.e. if you never pursue an open relationship with Shadowheart that Shadowheart is somehow still thinking about it or something. That isn't so. In every scenario you give, the entire thing happens directly because of Tav's own prompting and demonstrated interest in it.

>>502490456
Nope, just real life. If it's any consolation, I doubt any of you will ever need to deal with it. Your anime pillow can't masturbate.

>>502490386
>ever husband has masturbated to her.
?????????????

Interesting, that one human female face looks almost exactly like Shart's voice actress.
Did they model it off her?

>>502490669
unbelievable levels of cope. go watch that halsin poly scene on youtube

>>502490596
>you usually don't tell your partner that
I agree, you usually don't.

But if your partner takes you to a brothel with that person, then openly suggests an orgy, that's a very abnormal and awkward situation to be put in. If your partner says "okay Shadowheart, I want you to fuck these two drow I'm attracted to and I'll fuck them too", that might open some conversational doors that aren't typical.

>>502490630
Astarion...

>>502490941
AIDS

>obese incel defending a videogame character's honor for hours calls everyone an incel

>>502489882
That's not what she says nor how she says it anon. She's not caught off guard or coming up with something on the fly. She agrees he's hot and encourages you, and then says s
he's going to do it too. She's even surprised and asks if you're sure if you say nevermind. This is the fourth time you've said something just blatantly false. The difference between when I say you're saying something wrong and when you say I'm saying something wrong is that I post proof, exact quotes, and explain the scene, while you just claim I'm wrong over and over. Your version of the scene does not match what's in the game and I have explained EXACTLY why using quotes. You need to do the same. You're misrepresenting the game while accusing others of doing that.

This isn't even an argument. You have been linked exactly what she says, exactly what you said, and the post in which you said it. Claiming something never happened when you were just linked the post in which it happened is absurd. You keep calling other people dumb like a 12 year yet you repeatedly try simple contradiction in place of argumentation. All you're saying here is "nu uh, you're dumb". It's literally not an argument. Until you address what was linked and quoted from both you and the game, this is just simple contradiction which is not an argument. Same as above, you need to quote the game and present EXACTLY why you're making the claims you're making, or else a claim without argumentation can be dismissed.

Her giving dissapproval at all proves she's not lying. It being -1 or -2 doesn't matter. This is another example of the dishonest downplaying. She dissapproves. Period. "but it was only one point!" doesn't make a difference, and this is an example to point to of what we mean by excuses and downplaying. You're not actually addressing the point of dissapproval, you're just saying it was small dissapproval. It's admitting she disapproves.

>>502490630
This with Roah Moonglow

>>502490630
Based and sane

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>>502491091
worth it 100%

>everybody beats off while thinking about their acquaintances you stupid virgin chud go back to watching your chinese anime

>>502491350
mintharafag is right but you cheerleading him every five minutes makes you a faggot, whiner

Allocating the (You) to the correct post, it worked for it.

>>502490386
>Every wife has a hot friend, ever husband has masturbated to her.
Refuge in crass stupidity. Everyone is the same, and there is only one "correct" way to set boundaries in a couple. Is the jury still out about the wife's sister?

>Everything I have said is logically correct,
You've deflected, backpedaled, or outright memory holed words you had said mere minutes prior, enough times to induce dizziness. And when that didn't work, when Mintharafag pointed out all the times you were objectively wrong, you resorted to personal attacks. If you posted slop, you'd be the worthless pig fuck, with this level of dishonesty. What a disappointment you turn out to be.

>>502491571
>What a disappointment you turn out to be
Oh no a typo

>>502490386
every time he presents an argument and you don't respond he wins. he is completely more convincing than you are.you keep calling people stupid and then proving you're stupid with your actions. you are coping

Odds on a french shartfag calling her writer a slur during his interview?

>>502491127
>obese incel obsessing over cuckhold memes for a year calls anyone an incel

>>502491128
>Your version of the scene does not match what's in the game and I have explained EXACTLY why using quotes
You haven't. What you'll do is take dialogue, misrepresent the tone and context, and then use it to drive a wild conclusion that doesn't actually follow from the dialogue. It's what the nametranny has always done, and the shitposters emulating him for kicks do it too. When you lie like this, it just makes the conversation go in circles because all I can do is tell you that you're lying and correct you again and again, only for you to lie once more in the same boring way. You either understand the game, or you don't, and you don't. This makes you rage for hours at me because I won't fold over for your shitposter meme, but you're wrong either way.

I'll correct you again: Shadowheart directly says she does not want to share. If her partner then deliberately pursues a relationship with another person, and approaches Shadowheart about it, Shadowheart will agree for the sake of Tav, and then inform them that of course it goes both ways, which is perfectly reasonable. This pattern applies to the scene in which Tav forces the issue of polyamory, and it applies to the scene in which Tav forces the issue of group sex.

>you need to quote the game
No, I don't. What I'm saying is alignment with the game, and while I'm willing to call you a retard this morning, I'm not going to go gather up screenshots and videos and so on because this is a year long argument you're losing and we've already done all that before. It doesn't do any good, because you've demonstrated a consistent pattern of ignoring, misinterpreting, and lying about in-game evidence regardless. One more screenshot isn't going to make you literate and honest.

>>502491149
Roah is reserving her virginity for the inevitable rape of Nine-Fingers

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There is only correct, and incorrect. 2+2 = 4, not 5. If Mintharafag is correct, then it becomes correct to stand with them and agree with them. There is only funny, and unfunny. If Astarion being raped is funny, I will repeat the joke. This is because making people laugh is good, and correct. Do you think Godey BONED Astarion? This is funny, because it's a pun. He's a skeleton, get it?

>>502491861
won't happen but would be hilarious

>>502490669
This is once again false. The count has now reached 5. What actually happens is that Halsin gets an exclamation point over his head and when you click he starts in on asking you about polyamory. There's no pursuing him, there's no mention of polyamory prior to this, and you do not need to have mentioned it or flirted with him or anything prior. When you go to Shart to ask her what she thinks, you have the option to just ask her contrary to what you just said (does that count as wrong thing number 6?), she expresses approval. If you express dissapproval, she actually asks you if you're sure and says you can if you want. This is to a character who has never once indicated they're interested in polyamory. This is Halsin getting an exclamation point and you simply asking her thoughts, and she makes you second affirm if you say no which is another implication.

You keep doing this. You keep making claims about how things work in the game and you're just wrong. Your efforts to downplay what Shart does and says have caused you to walk face first into being wrong 5 times now. It's such a clear case of denial.

Slopfag once mocked me for playing with one mod, completely out of nowhere, because he thought I was le whiner.
Fuck that guy.

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>>502491571
>Everyone is the same
We're speaking in general terms about general concepts. When I say that humans have two eyes, you finding a one eyed man doesn't disprove the statement. You can't understand this because you're furiously autistic and dimwitted.

>You've deflected, backpedaled, or outright memory holed words you had said mere minutes prior
Never happened. What does happen is I say up is up, then one of you says "oh yeah well you said up is down", I deny that because it's false, and then you claim I backpedaled. My positions and statements are very consistent, always have been, just as /bgg/'s inability to read above a 6th grade level has also been consistent. You can't keep track of context, you can't keep track of conversations, and you can't read very well. And so when one of you flying monkeys makes an incorrect statement about what I said but never did, and I correct it, it leaves you confused and angry and screeching. That's what you're dealing with right now.

>>502491764
I have directly addressed the spirit of every inarticulate, autistic, incompetent argument he has stumbled his way through posting. There is a 2,000 character limit though, so when he lies 15 times in one post and each one needs 3-4 sentences to explain why he's a retard, it just becomes excessive. The core of the argument is cuckoldry and name tranny's inability to understand what the word even means.

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>>502492008
correction: by Nine-Fingers

>>502490824
You're being dishonest again. As has already been explained to you, the main quest and Lazy's companion quest takes you to the brothel. You're not just randomly there, and it is in fact not safe to assume that only people who are interested in having sex are there. Secondly, Shart's line is said when you're still conversing with the twins about their work, it happens before you exchange money or say what you want. If you ask the question about their services they offer, the woman says your partner is cute and if you want a package deal, and you can as what she means, at which point Shart volunteers. This is very, very different from your claim that she only reacts to you saying "alright gang we're having sex with these prostitutes". I've already told you you're mistaken as to order of events and explained it to you, but you're still saying this.

>>502492346
What actually happens is you talk to Halsin, he mentions the topic, you say no, and that's the end of it. Any interaction with Shadowheart regarding a relationship with Halsin or sex with Halsin only ever occurs at your prompting, and proceeds the way your direct. You can lie and pretend this is not true, but it is. Like 2 + 2, another simple idea that seems to have the flying monkeys in a rage.

In addition to this not actually being cuckoldry, but Tav just being degenerate, it is a clear refutation of your meme. You've had a year of constant shitposting about this, and you can't do better than this? Sad.