>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/11-13-2024-update.46391/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>502607092
>>502741647cool. dont give a shit. if youre playing on the wrong server you can fuck off. preferably kill yourself while youre at it.
>>502741478>blue orbsWe've been over this, the orbs are green.
OP is NOT what Ivy looks like.That's Olivia, and she's a cunt.
I call the blue orbs Baja Blast and the orange orbs Fanta
>>502741813ivy my beloved wivy
>>502742159not that anon but i'm colorblindthe orbs that pop out of a minion after you last hit it are purple
>>502742267But why do you call green orbs blue orbs?
>in a game>suddenly two faggots on my team leave>it was an ukronigger and a snowniggerpottery
>>502741813lick lick lick lick lcik lick lick lick ljkck lcikc licik likc ilcki klci klic klic klic lick k lcilk
I kinda don't get Infernus. I feel like i'm playing well, i end games with good soul counts and postive K/D but then i end up having dealt like... 20k damage. I'm used to seeing much higher damage dealt numbers when i play well with other characters
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>502742330Because they're actually turquoise
>>502744454Wrong
>want to like deadlock >like the strategy and characters>shit at aiming what's a single player game that I can play that'd help me aim in deadlock
>>502745010The genius of Deadlock is that the more you play it, the better you get at aiming, because it spawns aim-training orbs from every kill
>>502745010Just play as Abrams or Wraith
>>502745010Doom 2016 and eternal
>>502741813thoughts on Ivy in her current state?
The meta was more fun when it was gun focused
>5 games in a row get single digit iq niggers so fucking retarded every game the other team has a 25k souls advantage by minuie 15>im the only one keeping up in farm with them>im the only ony who breaks 15k damage on my team by 25 minutesgreat matchmaking deatards
>>502741813>>502742287>>502745361ugly rat.
>>502745417So you're too retarded to carry? Looks like the low iq nigger is you
>>502744857Bluish green
For an entire week now, my matches all have a 100% pick rate with Yamato, I'm so fucking tired of fighting her bullshit kit every match, it's surreal.
>>502745590>carry 5 retards on my own when the enemy team has 2 retards at mostspoken like a true faggot who gets carried by actually competent people
>>502745739yamato and haze every single game
>>502745739And then the next patch it will be another gay OP retarded unfun hero. Just quit dude this game is COOKED
>>502745138believe it or not when you play any game more you get better at it
>>502745947Okay but this game literally spits aim-training orbs at you which will make you better at most other FPS games too
only way to beat a gun build is to play a gun build great job ice full retard frog
>>502746402>dotard scared of aimingcant make this up
>>502746402sir, your mystic slow?
>>502746402Or you could buy withering whip, which is a purple item, and bullet armor, which is a green item.
>>502745739>play against shitters picking the fotm hero and being useless because they cant play itsounds free as fuck to me
>>502745361her tether needs buffs and kudzu needs nerfedshe's still my wife though>>502745578retard
>>502746934I did play a game in ranked yesterday where the enemy Yamato went 1/12.
>>502741813nice
>>502746402pick lash
>>502746962Faggot
>>502745738So yes, green
>>502745739they've been good chase practice for me.
>>502748618bitch
Rework geists and yamato's ults, they aren't fun
>>502749657Your aim makes me think you're playing with a controller lol.
>>502750003I have barely any desk space so 1/3 of my mousepad is taken by other shit, gotta crank the sens to compensate. Replay makes it look way worse however.
>>502749890removing feel bad mechanics makes for lame and flat games>but feel bad mechanics means I feel bad sometimes simply be good enough that you feel good more often than feel bad
>>502750135Not an argument
>>502749890Nothing in this game has actually been unfun for me to play against aside from Viper's slide and Slork as a whole.
>>502750259I don't understand this postthere is no argument happeningzoomers are so cooked bro all of you gotta figure your shit out
>>502750135feel-bad mechanics have been disappearing across the boardRPGs rarely have negative modifiers, MTG never puts any penalty on the player anymore except in the form of a costit's cringe
I decided to take a break from deadlock and go outside, and I realize how much nicer and fun it is not having fagtards like icefraud and hotpoo affecting me anymoreHoly shit I should quit this shitty playtest
>>502751285Maybe you should go outside more often.
>>502749890>they aren't funYou have to go back to Overwatch
>game is dying>delusional bootlickers act like this is a gotchalol?
>winning the game>one guy on the other team leaves (not even the one I was playing against)>everyone else leaves as soon as the safe to leave pop up shows upwelp
>>502752441free win
>>502750135Circumventing feel bad mechanics with smart item use or burst timing feels goodCheckmate Blizzard
my favorite meme is shitting on abrams in lane 4-0 and he still gets top souls in all the game because my team feeds him and we lose
>>502752851Just keep practicing, emissary bro
Im gonna go ahead and say it: Abrams does too much damage for too little investment. He needs his damage per boon reduced by at least 30%
>>502751376true this game stole 20 days of my life I will never get back
how many games is the new player queue?
>>502746402Just buy return fire and throw your shit at them
>>502754085∞
>>502754149>return fire>they buy bullet lifesteal or bullet armor>return fire does nothing anymore
>>502749890hands off my heroes nigga
>>502754573Bro, just attack them back. You aren't supposed to afk just because you have return on Return fire is just a huge swing in dps against gun character throughout mid game.
>>502754243i'm tired of bullying newbies... i've started to feed them on purpose so they don't feel so bad
>dominate early game>lose anyway because I'm not assertive enough to make calls and neither is anyone else on my teamThis is keeping me in Alchemist.
>>502757542Just use context ping (tab and middle click on the map) to tell people to push lane, take mid, be careful etc. In my experience people usually follow those commands even if they don't reply or talk
>>502757542Just make the call anon. At that level, even a mediocre call will leads to success because it get your team to work together on something. It's easy to make calls when you have good stat
>>502757542>dominate early game>lose anyway because my team wants to clear jungle camps and take shitty midbosses instead of pushing lanesthis is keeping me in phantom.
>>502753141His damage already fall off by the late game. His strength is to be a bully mid game and just a distraction/utility late game
>>502757943>In my experience people usually follow those commands even if they don't reply or talkWhat's funny is one of my friends placed oracle the first week of ranked and he only communicated in game with context pings and no one ever listened to him.
>>502758315>At that level, even a mediocre call will leads to successYup, exactly. I just had a game where I was 9-0 at 27 minutes, and ended 12-5-17. Absolutely dominated the early game, but since I didn't make calls, and neither did anyone else, everyone on my team was really just doing their own thing. We ended up losing despite weakening their patron before they even touched our base guardians, specifically because there was no coordination.Doesn't help that I play Lash, who falls off a cliff in terms of power if the game goes past 30 minutes.
get me out
>>502754843whatever. your "compassion" for newbies is going to vaporize when you start getting matches in which all the newbies are on your team and the other team has 2-3 smurfs or at the very least no new players on their team every match.
>>502759408i hope the mmr overadjusts soon, i'm only smurfing to practice new heroes
>>502759072>feeding on shivnot sure how this is possible unless it's literally his first time on the hero
>>502759734shiv is just bad right now, the rage nerfs killed him
I've only played like 5 shiv games in total and I got mad because dagger maxing isn't viable. If I manage to land 5 consecutive daggers on you then you should die, it should do like 3500 damage because I want it to
>>502759734Shiv is at a state that it is super easy to feed. You are a punching bag if you fall behind just a bit, especially when your whole team falls behind as well. Shiv is a chaos merchant. He excel to clean up fight and turn a close fight around. He's not really a "playmmaker. If the fight is decisive and one sided, he can't do shit.
>>502759589you're part of the problem
>>502760005it is pretty lame that geist does the stacking debuff dagger thing 100x better
>>502760120>>502760005Shiv dagger should be better at building rage at this point.
>>502759589Mine adjusted after like 10 games to be actual players.
>>502760067i know and it doesn't feel good, but it doesn't feel good to literally throw games solo if i play on main
>>502759734Shiv sucks right now though.
>dynamo ult on fed viper letting my teammates kill themwhat now you slippery bitch
>>502761925i can't imagine seething so much about a viper dominating you that you feel the need to post something like this after solo ulting her with your teammates around
>>502762524he wants snake pussy anon leave him alone
>>502762723that's the default state of a deadlockerwell, either that or wanting stone pussy
>no inhouse>no hero labsits jover...
>>502762827i bought a new videogame today and I played it after dominating pubs. don't worry ill host herolabs tomorrow
>>502763050IT'S JOVER
>>502759734hes in the most balanced state idk what they can even change about him right that wont make him overpowered as fuck. Aside from like small buffs e.g small increase to the range on his 2.
>>502760005shiv dagger is secretly still his 2 build because it's for building EE and rage to do massive damage to people in that 1 move. Still hes weird af to play either super strong teammate or bottom of the barrel.
Fuck denying as a mechanic why did they bring this dog shit over from Dota
>>502764479>>502764803Shiv needs a team composition that compliment him or he falls apart. With the current states of the queue randomly select heroes for your whole team, he just struggle. He's not as flexible as other tanks/assassin/bruisers. That aside, I would like his rage to be changed. It should has less extreme effect on his performance and it should be build significantly more on interaction with other heroes and less, or none at all, on creeps/neutral. I'm fine with shiv being able to build a shit load of rage off daggers or if he lands a big slice and dice, because he earns the rage. His farming would be worse, but he can just buy cold front to mitigate that and jungle farming is not as important to the meta ATM.
Paradox is kinda goated in trenchlow
They should add a item that gives you all talk and lets you see/hear enemy communication.
god the cunt devs are so shit. Double Dynamo Ult wouldn't be so bad if we had items that let us remove the stun condition. but nope.just so much hate for the devs. it's unreal. They are SO SHIT.
8PVP7Anyone care to get one tiny hero labs match in
>>502766298Anon, just buy unstoppable.it also takes one person with stun to interrupt him, or rescue beam Dynamo would need unstoppable to avoid getting interrupted, but unstoppable + refresher+ other core items are extremely expensive for dynamo to get altogether.
>mcginnis on the enemy side is the most oppressive thing in the world>mcginnis on my side feeds and walls stupidlyThis is like 5 games in a row already. I dread having a McGinnis on my side.
>>502766298imagine thinking you are supposed to have counter play after you get stunned
I really hate this gameMost annoying game ever made
>>502767114Just take a break. Why do you think this general's dead now? People are burnt out for now. Go play something else
>>502766930At least it's better than hazeHaze is only ever useful if you have a good dynamo or lash you can make god ult play and handfeed haze big ult combo follow up. That is assume your team doesn't fall behind and get rolled over early/mid game before haze get online. Without dynamo/lash, haze aren't even good character in the late game
first punch ginnis game. this shit rapes.
>>502767251>for nownah i think it's gonna get cancelled, wayyy too big of a mess and they already scrapped neon prime once this was just to see if it was good enough to not rehaul. Doubt they remake it a 2nd time
>withering whip, return fire, warp stone, and phantom strike>still can't deal with viperfun!
>>502766538I can't take another buck-breaking session with viper...
>>502767912your hex?
>>502768956barely does anything once she gets fleetfoot or burst fire.
>brand new valve game>20 posts an hourlol, lmao even
>>502770207its an evil game
>>502770207It's an unfinished pre-alpha game with 1/3 of the items and 1/10 of the characters of other mobas.None of the patches are adding shit they're just fine tuning some gay abilities. We're BORED and BURNT OUT.
>>502770652the core of the game is assno matter how much tuning or crap they add ontop its still going to be horrible
>>502770652the fact that they stopped adding items really annoys me
>>502770778>the core of the game is asswrong
>>502770802>>502770652I think the items roster is almost finished and very decent in the first place. I don't think you should bloat the game with more items when there are only so many a player can buy in a game.
>>502741813Why am I in this general again...?
>>502770968we still need daedalus
>>502771162What's the difference between that and lucky shot??
Am I climbing this week or falling
>>502771410needs bigger numberslucky shot is barely crystalys tier we need tier 5 big boy items
>>502771410lucky shot is MKB, daedalus would be a headshot item that actually increases your fucking headshot damage.
>gun fags begging for more panderingfuck off
Man, i really hope that at one point they add a Rubick-style hero to this game with a spellsteal. I just love Rubick so much.
>>502773004this but meepo
Pocket and Viscous are so relentlessly cancer and just prove to me what I've been saying for ages. Giving out get out of jail free cards so casually just makes this game IMPOSSIBLE to fucking balance, any advantage given to a hero with 1 or 2 of them in a patch and they're oppressive cancer. >B-BUT SLOWING HEXDoes not stop cube or satchel. Fuck anyone that defends this shit, give everyone one or just remove them from the game. Braindead gameplay where you don't have to worry about overstaying, positioning, etc should not be encouraged
>>502773004>morphling and rubick added to the game>the dudes in charge of fixing those heroes in dota instantly quit the company
>>502773004Oh boy I can steal uhh... Ummm.... Singularity I guess
There should be a hero with an execute that can devour an weakened enemy hero whole and get stronger, kinda like cho'gath. Imagine being able to swallow a vindicta whole
4chan trannies are whats killing the game
>>502750259Saying something isn't "fun" is not an argument either
>>502773849It's fact though
swallow god?
>>502773004honestly all of dota's complexity 3 heroes should be in every mobalike >rubick>invoker>morphling>storm spirit>meepo some of the most fun hero designs ever. I want an occult invoker so bad
>>502773991Honestly I disagree with you wholeheartedly
>2k souls ahead of laner>killed him twice>suddenly they start sending 2-3 to that lane>I escape twice but they kill me once>The laner I was 2k souls ahead is now equal after that meme gankWhat a stupid fucking game>Exact same game>manage to come back and be like 2k souls ahead of everyone>Protect urn, take 2 towers, take 2 walkers, get like 5 kills during that, free farming insanely efficiently>Game ends, teammate that has barely 3 kills above me has like 12k souls more than me because he got the last hit and perma brooledThe niggerest, blackest fucking stupid game
>>502774478>the game rewards me more for brooling >I will not brool>I will now complainlol
>getting oracles, eternus, ascendants on the same gameHOLY FUCKING DEAD
>>502773529Pocket I get because that hero does shitloads of damage with no items, but Viscous is a dogshit hero outside of co-ordinated/high level play and laning phase
>>502773560yes
>>502774576There's zero point to having objectives, farming, waves and souls if you just get the most out of brooling every single time.Might as well go play overwatch.
>>502774667>Viscous is dogshitNot gonna pretend he's the strongest but this is just bullshit. Regardless this shit is not ok, to give an example if they DID buff him he'd be the most oppressive garbage ever simply because of 2nd chance abilities, fuck them in general.
>>502774760Obj soul reward is shared throughout your team. Why would you get more money than your teammates for doing obj if the reward is shared evenly to your teammates???BROOLING is higher risk, therefore, come with higher reward than farming. That's basic risk/reward design
>>502774910Cube isnt even as good as Satchel because no teleport. Sure he can use it to stall for ball to escape or can use it with rescue beam to save allies, but outside of those two situations it's mostly just delaying a death
>>502775061Or you can use it to totally cuck wraith ult and bebop bomb and warden chain and shiv ult
>>502775061satchel can't be cast on teammates.
Thoughts on this new tier list from Hydranation? Seems all the people whining about Greytalon Miku and Vindicta are just shitters lmao.
>>502775174And then they die after cube runs out unless you ball escape (self cube) or rescue beam (teammate)
>>502775284Co-ordinated team play and regular matches are basically two entirely seperate games
>>502775284no way shiv and bebop are Ano way kareem is only Bhaze is way too high she is worse than mcginnisdynamo rated way too low
>>502775318I mean if they're terrible like you and can't manfight a wraith with no ult or a bebop with no bombs then I guess so? I don't see how admitting to being bad at the game is a good counterargument
>>502775318>he needs ball to get outconfirmed shit at viscous.
>>502775284I find it hard to believe that there could be that many heroes in S tier
>>502775467post rank
>>502775318Or just fucking win the fight because enemy just waste their value ability on the cube person. Viscous ball is also one of the strongest ult in the game
>>502775682you first
>>502775779You're the one who brought up player skill dickhead, either post rank or stop posting
I'm too much of a boomer to keep crosshairs on people as I A and D spam. Why did Valve have to make a shooter.
>>502775874Lol scared huh
>>502775748>that fucking spelling/grammarHello, Ivan
>>502775464Bebop is underrated atm. He power creeps slowly and the bomb scaling give him a lot of power over time. He has everything to be a good part of a team>But up can just use item to get rid of the bombJust place bomb on your diving teammate
>>502775284retarded shitter list from a has been
>>502768258you vill lane against viperyou vill lose tower within eight minutesand you vill praise hopoo
I purposely deranked myself to Alchemist so I can have fun on my waifu: Haze.A.M.A.
>>502776075Cope more shitter. Literally 0 tourneys lost.
>>502775640That's because heroes have distinct utility and roles (even if there's no locked "role"). How can you compare the support utility if Kelvin/viscous ball with the sheer offensive pressure of Yamato?? It's like comparing apples to oranges. With the current limited hero pool and 6 slots to fill in a team, a lot of heroes will be considered "top tier" because they all deserve insta pick in a team
>>502776497Shut up, damn
>just was in a game with a non-melee abrams with 15k dmg in 45 minuteskek, honestly I don’t mind the gutter thoughI had fun as unstoppable cdmaxxed ultbot seven who just impeded any of their objective/urn progress. Ended up with almost the most damage at 57k, and that abrams managed to backdoor two shrines with four alive somehow. Thanks for reading my blog from initiate
>>502776221Hello hydra faggot, mad you got called out and you know times ticking?
>>502775284what an awful fucking list, putting vindicta below haze, dynamo and geist on C is beyond retarded.no wonder the game is trash and dying if these are the players giving feedback.
>>502776221>tourneys for deadlock are mostly third world animals or retirees from even sloppier gamesyeah the bar wasn't set that high to begin with
Predict Thursday's patch!I'll start:>Yamato guttered>Ivy gutted>Vindicta nerfed again because: why not>all resistances ticked back towards bullet>various bullet items nerfed>haze gets a teeny, tiny buff that amounts to nothing
>>502777094And they're already trying their hardest to keep everyone else out of the "pro" scene
>>502775284Meanwhile in reality dynamo, ivy geist and vindicta are auto winning every single game in my eternus games.Literally only brooling matters
>>502777203i read the yamato nerfs feel indifferent and continue not to play the game
>you have 11 games left in low priority
>>502778668animal behavior
>>502759072>get meI have legit never seen these ranks before. How terrible are 4channers at this game?
>>502778904people in the threads have posted scoreboards across the entire rank spectrum.
ah, another day of terrific lash games
This has to be the worst meta I've ever seen in any videogame, this game is not making it past 2025.
>>502779587It's just kill creeps, kill enemies, and take obj.Build anything you see fit and be versatileWhat's so bad about it?
>>502779476>mfw he was my first love toohe's so much fun until you start facing people who know you're coming or counter you specifically or are so tanky you can't burst themthen it starts to become boring since I don't think gun lash is that viable because he doesn't have any big disables like others, for example paradox, wraith etc.
>>502781701You just have to play around your power spike and then become an ult bot if the game goes on for too long
>>502781701Gun lash is just a selfish gun dynamo. Stomp on 1 for headshots, movement dodge 2, healing on 3, teamwide stun on 4
>>502781804>selfishwhat are you, fucking 12?
>>502781928t. gun dynamo griefing
How does the debuff reducer/remover affect the effect of being stun by Mo/dynamo ult. I imagine it has no effect because the stun is tied to the channeling of those character's right???
Just had a game as kelvin where I was playing lane janny cause team didnt care about objectives i guess. At they end atleast 2 people blamed me for losing cause I wasn't in team fight while i was defending and not giving them for free. I was fucking flabbergasted because why tf would it be my fault one of the fight we lost i was 1v1 a abrams and the other fight they decided to push out of base for no for fucking reason. I'm willing to post the id of the game but I don't know how I am supposed to climb out of shit rank if i keep getting teamed with these retards
>>502782657honestly what is the counter to this guy’s ult? hope you don’t get caught? You just hope to be tanky enough that his teammates don’t drill your head for 4 seconds as he pummels your assYou can pop as many actives as you want and hope you don’t get bursted by a whole team. All I can think of to be the best is metal skin and hope you can survive the spirit damage. I think it’s fine though because it’s annoying when the enemy team has a gigafed hypercarry
>>502782657It reduces combo but not singularity. You can thank me now
>>502782960Thank. Yea it doesn't make sense for it to reduce singularity as it is an AoE and not everyone caught in it might have debuff reducer
>>502781928>has a self escape/heal instead of a team escape/healfeels like a perfectly fine descriptort. lash player
Is there any particular guide on who to buy restorative shot on? Or is it it aimed on shotgun characters like mo?
>>502783258he said "just as", meaning he thinks both. he's retarded.
I'm surprised I don't see more people get magazine upgrades on Warden in conjunction with Quicksilver; it makes him far more pleasant to pay, with his high fire rate and slow reload.
>Ivy has lines complimenting Bebop when she sees him land a hookWHY IS SHE SO FUCKING CUTE GOD DAMN
Poking around inside everyone's heads is neat>aside from Ivy obviously, shiv is the only character with teeth inside his head>lash has eyeballs, but i don't think warden does>haze's eyes are painted on, she doesn't have eyeballs either
Dynamo bros, who do you love duo laning with? For me:>AbramsIf we both stay melee and aggressive, lots of early kills. Can heal >Mo&KrillI can help this buy stay in lane and be super aggressive.>BebopEvery hook he makes is a guaranteed kill and his gun is amazing for last hitting. >WardenBest bro to duo with. Can heal this tanky man and his gun is great damage and good grenade harass. >Vindicta / GreytalonThey stay back while I take farm with melee and setup kills for them.>SevenStun, bump - always a kill.>HazeReally good Haze players who sleep is a guaranteed kill unless it's Ivy or someone who can dodge.Worst:>PocketNo disables, just dots. Dude might warp too far for us to help and it's hard to know when to warp him out of safety because he has his own tools.
>>502783309dont buy it
>>502783658Out of all the characters, Warden sounds the most genuinely stricken with panic when he gets hooked. He really hits the >OH NONONONOunironically, and with way more emotion than the rest of the cast
>>502784025I just think it's weird because shiv doesnt seem to ever open his mouth (i dont think any characters actually move their mouths, so why does shiv have teeth and nobody else?)
>>502783658Dynamo does too. >He's bringing them in!
>>502784153Probably because they're all unfinished. I imagine in the final game all the characters will have facial expressions and move their mouth to speak a la TF2
>>502784236i mean yeah, but i just wonder if the reason shiv has a mouth before anyone else was because of his rage mechanic? maybe his facial expression is supposed to change? i know they were tossing around that idea of him transforming
I’ve uninstalled a while agoDid they ever buff Warden’s absolute dog water bullet speed
>>502784348No. Still the lowest.
>>502784153Shiv was supposed to be a vampire or werewolf or something originally right? I could see him having a bite attack to inflict bleed
>>502784326That could be it; maybe whoever was doing shiv's model has a good work ethic>>502784348Still the lowest but he went from 210 base to 290 so way easier to play nowHe's probably my favorite character in the game currently. I wish they'd give him his cape
>>502783334Titanic mag is a waste on most characters.
>>502784472>>502784550Damn at least they buffed it I guess
>>502783334Why bother with that when Melee charge can instantly reload AND gives extra bullets if you already have enough?
>>502785020Also depends when you quit but they made his ultimate have a lot more resist now. Both.
>>502783334It basically makes it so an unattended warden can nuke a walker to nothing before anyone can rotate around from a teamfight.
Why don't the patrons ever say THEY PRAY FOR A SALVATION THAT WILL NOT COME anymore?
>With every arrow Grey Talon brings us CLOSER TO VICTORY
It's out and even Chazm, a player better than all of us, agrees that Vindicta is way too strong at the early stages of the game. Even his chat agrees. https://youtu.be/OpRWPQYbmN8?t=67
sometimes your team just wants to do absolutely nothing and you can't fucking carry them because they give you absolutely no space to do anything
>>502786868So what? Plenty of heroes are broken shitheads early in the game but they say it's fine cause they fall off. Guess Pocket and Abrams need a nerf then. Or Mirage or has the most oppressive laning phase in the game.
>>502786868>his chat agreesyou say this as if any dickriders would ever disagree with their preferred streamerbvll
>>502776221lost last tourney lmao
>>502786868ah yes this cheese gameplay is far better to deal with early game
>Enemy abrams cooks a warden in lane>Figure it's just the warden being too old, sounds about 40 and done with life>Gank as Dynamo>Parry him once and notice he immediately switches to light melees>Friend I'm duo'd with gets shoulder charged, dies to abrams, swears he heard 3 light melee sounds in the same second from the abrams>check the account>level 1, 3 friends, deadlock onlyHMM
>>502787172>see enemy is in your lane>see it is Lash>doesn't pay attention when he's not in the lane100% your fucking faultthere's a difference in rooting someone and hitting them with the strongest gun, with the fastest velocity in the game while flying in the airvs>should I ignore the rooftops? yes. I'll ignore them. OH NO HE SLAMMED ME WHAT A BROKEN HERO PLZ NERF AND BUFF MY BLUE WHORE SLUT
>>502787307There's counterplay to Vindicta too yet you still bitch about her. >JUST HAVE GOOD POSITIONING AND BE AWARE OF YOUR OPPONENT BROSame thing for her :^), sub 50% winrate hero btw
>>502787189Or you could've checked the replay for actual proof
>>502787391>counterplay when rootedyeah and that is?>counterplay when she flies up and you're rootedyeah and that is?
>>502787423Yeah I'm waiting on it
>>502787391You can literally just double jump and Lash's slam wont hit you retard. Also anyone can use those spots for an early gank.
>>502787529>You can double-jump to avoid lash slamWuh
>>502787529Did I say there was no way to play against it? I'm just stating that it's low skilled cheesey gameplay as well, people just seethe over Vindicta here because she's a M1 hero. >>502787436>NOOOO PEOPLE ARE HITTING ME WITH AN ABILITY IN A GAMEKeep it in mind and do your best to avoid it like any other ability in the game. Vindicta is also squishy take advantage when her shit is on CD. What hero do you play to be whining this much you little faggot?
>>502787576>WuhCertified retard response.Happens in the Chazm video on question. Time stamped for you retard: https://youtu.be/OpRWPQYbmN8?t=664>>502787676Certified coom for brains retard who defends Vindicta in every thread blindly.
>>502787717You can't outplay a squishy sub 50% winrate hero, you are dogshit>B-BUT HER LANING PHASE IS STRONGGeist, Viscous, Abrams, Talon, Dynamo (if duo lane), Mirage, and many others I'm forgetting are way more annoying to go against. Her tradeoff is that she's squishy, kill her.
>>502787818Are you that same retarded tranny faggot who kept crying how he lost 10 games in a row? You have no place to speak about balance. Just because retards don't know how to play Vindicta (You) doesn't mean she isn't overtuned as fuck for early game.
>>502787876A lot of heroes are strong early game, what about Vindicta makes you seethe especially hard? Abrams and Pocket are far strong early game, why bitch about her? Is it because you're a complete shitter? And her winrate is low in HIGH MMR lobbies. The opposite is true, only low mmr shitters get noobstomped by her then just assume she's OP. Get good.>YOU MUST BE THIS OTHER RETARDED ANON THAT MADE ME SEETHE RECENTLYMentally ill
>>502786868Her gun is good in the early game but relative to other tools and spirit combo/ability???? It's only average.Most tank just shrug off her gun damage after 8 min until she get some good items later on. Meanwhile, vindicta dies if any character get to her
>>502788160Factually false and retarded opinion. I'm not going to teach you how to play Vindicta since you obviously have no clue.
>>502787717You have to be on the peak of your double jump to avoid to slam. However, latency and ping means that you might get hit by lash slam anyway even if you try to double jump. That's like saying to just dash and dodge yamato's slash
>>502778668get fucked low life trash. please continue being a trash bag and be in low prio for all eternity
>>502786868>gun too strong50 dps gun lvl1 btw>just stands there and accepts getting hit instead of running for cover
>>502788160Okay??? You didn't really what I said. Spirit burst are usually stronger early/mid game. Vindicta gun dps is average, but has good mag size/range. She has to manage good spacing to take advantage, but due to the average dps, the tanks eventually out sustain her gun poke and many spirit caster out damage/out trade her with burst once they level up their skill. Vindicta's ability are solid, but has really long CD other than crow. She relies on assassination for the mid game. She is good in lane, but strugglesin some lane as well. She is not great against geist, paradox, etc, who has strong burst that match/out range her. She's good at bullying some characters who lack range, until they get enough laning sustain items
>>502788849>one of the most used character by cheaters because her gun is the most powerful in the game allowing early snowballing>used by cheaters especially in higher ranksWhy are Vindicta fags in huge denial about how strong their hero is? Why don't we see Dynamo cheaters for example?Fucking dishonest faggots.
This general is embarrassingly bad all they do is downplay the strongest heroes then bitch about Vindicta and Talon
>>502789436>>used by cheaters especially in higher ranksExplain her 46% winrate in high elo
>>502789605tracklogs are inaccurate and not telling of how strong a hero is at all>dude a bunch of retarded Russians can't win as Vindicta so she isn't stronggrasping at straws now anon
>>502789436>Vindicta is so weak that even cheaters can't inflate her win rate past 46%Grim
>>502789674Explain hydration putting her in second lowest tier
>DYNAMO AND PARADOX AND POCKET AND ABRAMS ARE ALL FUCKING BAD ACTUALLY BUT VINDICTA IS REALLY OP PLEASE REMOVE HER FROM THE GAME
>>502789436Haze is considered weakest hero in the game...every second Haze in asc+ is cheating.It's almost like heroes with 800+ bullet velocity are better for cheating than those with 290 bullet velocity
>>502789916Yeah. Cheats don't work well when you have to aim ahead and cheats aren't good at predicting where someone is ending up at and can just lock on or bring cursor towards a target. It's almost as if bullet velocity is super important at hitting other players but this general is in full swing denial by a few trannies who exclusively play only high velocity characters.
>fpskiddies getting btfo and coping all threadm1 heroes are the most unhealthy thing in this game, it'd instantly be better if they got removed
>>502790126they don't realize yet their not welcome, luckily theyre slowly getting filtered out
>>502790126I will continue to enjoy haze, even if she's considered fucking awfulRunning around the map invisible, catching junglers out, pressuring lanes, folding in a teamfight if I join too earlyAll fun
>>502790550>their not welcomethe autism on this post is hilarious. kill yourself
Predictiones
>>502790041>It's almost as if bullet velocity is super important at hitting other playersSo why exactly Haze and Vindicta have sub 46% winrate in Eternus. You still didn't fucking answer despite screaming how OP they are
>>502791828>Wraith and Vindicta on right teamTheir winning
>>502776075This>>502776221retard, the list makes no sense, it's like a "This is what my teammates are good at" list
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>502791850>strawman argument nigger strikes againkys tranny
non-retard teir list>b-but he's only ascendantTurns out credentialism is dumb and good ideas can come from anywhere
>>502792018Yeah this game's fucked. I swapped with MnK and couldn't do shit against dicta, and warden is 0/6
>>502792636>>502792018like fuck man
>>502792461This tier list is pretty garbage too, don't tell me you made this
>>502792745>Vindicta isn't stro-
>>502792759No it was another's, what would move? The categories are not really ordered, meaning Abrams is not over mo they are both just B
>>502792862I'm wood ELO, don't even bother
>>502792862>>502793001>second lowest damage after Kelvin VINDICTA IS STRO-
In regards to pubs.
Can't help but to laugh at this retard zoomer with this retarded tier lists and cherry picked wood tier results lmao
>>502792316You literally posted video of Chazm killing Geist under her own tower lvl1, wasting all his cds and then wonder why Vindicta with flight managed to kill him while he simply walks, not even attempting to get cover
>>502793947Lash players are dishonest faggots and think they're better than other heroes because they're "high skill ceiling"
Why has this general convinced themselves that STREAMERS of all people are going to be honest? No shit they're going to cope when they die. >Nooo my positioning wasn't bad this hero is just too strong!
>gunshitters plaguing the general againthis game rly is dead
>>502794252It's a plague that encompasses much of the general populationBasic heuristic(he has more time/success therefore he must be right) taken to ad absurdum. The frightening truth is no one is infallible, not even large swaths of people are infallible.Everyone is stupid but you
>see opportunity to push shrines while team does whatever>mow them the fuck downThe sound Ivys crossbow makes when firing stupid fast is insane, I love it, but man I find it hard to farm with
>>502793553Abrams over rated, seven underrated
>mo doesn't buy return fire>mfw
>>502794839Abrams has consistently been THE pubstomper and can help your team snowball. I don't see anyone get value on Seven but yeah maybe D is a bit too harsh.
>>502795046He falls off in higher ranks, if enemy positions well and doesn't get walled then it's difficult for him to carry, and of he's not carrying then he's a b teir frontline
>>502751285Do it faggot
>>502792759>>502792923As expected, critique without correction, exemplary case of non-argument
bredictions
>>502795537Right because pocket.Also I had recently met absolutely insane Dynamo that hit 3 back to back blackholes that captured 3+ enemies each time, so if that Dynamo is 1/10th of that kind he'd win
>>502795537Saphire wins, wraith flames
Lash+vindicta duoVindi goes rescue beam and pulls lash to sky box
Guess the result. Eternus rank.
>>502797517My money on Pocket and Yamato
>>502797517Saphire, they are up 30 souls so amber is already tilted
>>502797583>>502797632Laning stage is over. It's quite even so far.
>>502795713>>502795692The lash literally threw in the last teamfight by grabbing only pocket and geist instead of the dynamoAlso I got super behind on Mirage and I genuinely have no clue how to catch up when I move at a fucking snails pace and have no wave clear
>>502798169Cold front on mirage is basically mandatory for clear
>>502798169Grabbing 2 players is an espectable ult from lash.Grabbing dynamo might allow dynamo to quantum entangle the ult'ed people out of trouble.
>>502798019At around 20 minute mark Amber has fallen behind but managed to secure a Rejuvinator.
>>502798797>yamakek is retarded feeding animal despite having most OP heroEvery fucking time
>>502798797Sapphire's lead keeps growing but Abrams managed to steal Amber another Rejuvinator.
>>502799287Sapphire bros… its over
>>502799287The end result. RIP his Eternus rank.
>can defend my line and have a few kills>10 minutes in the game>I sucks hard, everybody have higher lvl HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? WHAT THE FUCK?!
>>502797517>>502797632>>502799813>37m game decided in first creep waveJust moba things
>>502800354You're probably not farming effectivelyGotta slide around, get boxes, hit some jungle camps, make sure to get lane creeps when you can since they're worth a lot
>>502800728But it's empty. Or there is a fight going on and I die in it.
>alchemical fire + kudzuThis was fucking stupid funny to just be throwing shit around constantlyI managed to kill the Dynamo with the fire and he was like "I don't think I've ever died to alchemical fire lmao"
No one told me this thing retains your movement like a fucking portal from Portal. No wonder people play this faggot.
That's it. I'm going to start learning Pocket. Any tips?
>>502800825If the jungle is empty when you get there you have found the answer as to why everyone else is richer, unless you are missing a lot of lane creeps early on/getting denied If you are constantly roaming then you will be poorer than the people farming unless you are constantly getting kills, and even then getting a lot of kills usually opens up the map for your team to farm even moreThere's a balance to be had but I think the main thing is that you don't have to run towards every fight early on, or even later on since pushing lanes is a good way to get farm if you know the enemy is occupied elsewhere
Heavy melee shouldn't allow you to just turn mid melee, this shit is retarded, it's literally a lose/lose situation if someone tries to melee you. You parry, fucker will just turn around and not get punished, then enjoy a cooldown so long, the stars will fucking go cold before you can parry again.
>>502803697People don't turn around on reaction when they see a parry. It's 100% guess and read. Due to ping, you won't even see the parry animation until you hit the opponent.
>>502795537right has no haze griefing so its ez win for them
>>502799813that's not an eternus lobby
>viscous and pocket in laneOH YEAH BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE TWO FUCKING GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD IN LANE, HAVE A THIRD ONE AS WELL.
>>502805084It was posted on the first page with the eternus signia. This means that many Eternus people have quit or the ones playing ranked when I posted that are a very small pool. Take your pick, but that IS an Eternus room. You can go to the forums and there are people complaining about 10-20 minute queue times now. To solve this Valve made it so the player pools are bigger. Go eat a nigger dick faggot.
>>502805629one guy is enough for the symbol
>play again an abrams as paradox>stay a healthy distance away from him>he keeps trying to close the gap, just walk back to my guardian>he charges me from a distance>jump over him>punch him>leave>he lane swaps 4 minutes in>guy on my team he swapped to dies to him 6 times in 5 minutes>we lose because abrams is fed to fucki asked to lane swap back to abrams and the guy never responded or said a single word he just kept dying
>game is fucking 50 FUCKING MINUTES of pure torture because no one fucking knows when to end the game and the entire enemy team only has characters that hard counter me.OH BOY SURE IS FUN TO WASTE ALMOST AN HOUR OF GETTING SHIT ON
>>502745010you should just pick a character that doesn't need to aim a lot like abrams (he has a gun but you will mostly use it super close and while they're coming out of cc) or viscous or anyone like that reallyyou get a lot better just from playin a bit since every match has a dedicated aim training section, i started not bein able to hit my ult at all on vindicta but now i can hit people lots
I'm a cunnybro and my main is...
>>502808325Geist
>>502808325being a pedophile is not a personality
>>502808616?
geist handjobbing you with her right hand, sucking out all sperm and life out of you
>>502808325Vindicta
Ranked is officially worse than standard now:>longer queues>worse match making>lower quality games>more rage>more leavers>more feedersRanked was actually, factually, a mistake.
>>502808325paradox because pedophilia is fucked up and i like thick mommies
Pinning down and plapping Vindicta under my obese bodyweight
>>502808969they're adding duo queue on thursday, that'll fix it
>>502809119I doubt that, and I doubt it would fix shit even if they did.I participated for a few weeks to help them with their algorithm, but at this point it's a complete waste of my time, and I will not longer bother with ranked regardless.
>>502746785mystic slow is such an underrated item
>>502809458Fire rate slow is underrated across the board, stack a couple sources and it gimps any gun carry hard
>>502746402>Return fire>Metal skin>Any fire rate slow>Bullet armorEasier to counter bullet than spirit btw
THEY HAVE METAL SKIN
>buy metal skin and return fire>Haze ceases to exist>do not buy metal skin and return fire>Haze eats your entire teamThis style of boolean counterplay is not fun for either side.
>>502810193Odd how you people never extend this stance to having to buy antiheal against the braindead tanks in this game
>>502810193you seriously consider haze any kind of a thread? actual street shitter mmr
i haven't played enough games for my rank this week but i don't feel like playing
>>502810832If she's allowed to farm a couple of gun items and phantom strike and no one on your team buys metal skin + return fire: she will eat at least one or two players by herself every engagement with basically no consequences.
>>502809706every time i play gunbuild and some fuck on the enemy team stacks fire rate slow i physically recoil in disgust
>>502810832Haze is "okay." In the hands of a really good player yeah, shes amazing because she has the only ranged stun that instantly procs. And she can still do amazing damage because of fixation stacks with a couple of cheap firerate items. Though a really good player should be on someone else like Yamato or pocket and they can preform like 5x better.
get 2 500 cost melee items as your first buythen start building gunthis allows you to fuck your laning opponent with sleep + free meleehaze laning is fine
Will this weeks update be good or dogshit
>>502811893>buying spirit strike on HazeBut why?Melee Lifesteal I get, but Spirit Strike?
>>502812338If they don't release Holiday and do something with infestation of cheater then it's dogshit update
>>502812371adds more melee damage than melee lifesteal. +50 damage is pretty big in the early game.
>>502812371what other anon said. +52 damage is kinda of big early when you can consistently melee people. punch haze is a fucking meme but it's pretty strong before 8~10 minutes.
>>502812338heard it's a big one from some top players
>>502786568They don't? Their lines kinda blend in the background but I thought they still did
I don't get what the point of slorks invisibility is for aside from being a shitty fortitude heal. Sitting around doing nothing waiting for people is so fucking worthless because of how much you NEED to be doing something at any point and crouch walking is the exact opposite of that.
>>502813397slork is overpowered so he got a shitty ult to compensate
>>502812664>punch Haze from minute 1-10>pure gun Haze from minute 10-20>phantom strike + duration, cooldown, and reach Haze from minute 20 onwardThis is how you Haze above Alchemist. All the actually effective Haze players end up with 4, MAYBE 5, Gun items max.
>>502775905I'm just lurking in here and I have no interest in the game but this looks awful. I'm not saying that you should stop liking it but it didn't really hit me how boring this game looked until now.
>>502813397consider the amount of times you go to base for heals, that's doing nothingwell now you don't have to
>>502775905In the end, of you make a thousand mistakes and still get the kill, it counts.
>>502814075not really sure why you thought anyone here would give a rat's ass about your opinion
>>502814198i could just buy healing rite
>>502814198>consider the amount of times you go to base for heals,I almost never reset at base except for very late game when I'm defending a rejuv push or something
>>502814262The keyword in your own sentence is opinion, you should be able to read negative opinions about the things you like and be able to interact with those opinions without getting angry if you are an adult.
I've never played Haze. Does she even have a spirit build? I assume sleep knife does spirit but that's obviously not a burst tool.Feels odd if she doesn't, like 80% of the cast has ways to build into either damage category but she's locked into gun damage and can't flex based on people counter building her.
>>502814673sleep knife has the highest spirit scaling in the game at 2.8. It's weirdly viable but ONLY in super long games buying echo shard + boundless spirit.
>>502814673The only spirit build Haze has is when you meme sleep dagger + melee into existence. The build is shit but it catches people off guard. It has a 2.8 spirit scaling and gives you a free HMC. If you echo shard it, you get two free HMC. If you knockdown + echoshard you get three free HMC + a fourth when your sleep knife comes off CD.
>>502814481nigger this is /vg/, not /v/if you don't even play the games of the generals you lurk what the fuck are you doing
>>502815162Because I didn't know wtf it was until I came in?
What happens when you don't play enough to get a ranking? Do you just not get re-ranked?
i love my chinese gun vindicta build it makes me feel so powerful
>play ivy>buy all of the cool gun items>gun goes from a cool machine pistol to a super cool machine gun>round endsDANGIT I WANT TO ENJOY MY COOL ITEMS
>>502815432you become obscurus (no rank)
Melee/spirit haze>is it goodonly for assassinating ONE singular target>is it funyea
Tried Pocket for the first time ever and he feels so squishy with his small health pool and negative spirit resist. But he's fun as hell. I missed so many goddamn attacks it's not funny at all but his gun feels super powerful.
game is almost playable at asc+
>>502808969I love the game, but the players are incredibly stupid. I'm climbing out of Arcanist (this week went to shit), but every fuckin game is a struggle. Its always 2 or 3 idiots farming jungle while their lanes are getting pushed by minions, then when the other person trying to 1v6 inevitably dies to a deathball that the enemy can do *because* of the lanes pushing to us, we lose even more.I've climbed out of cummiest of lows in a couple mobas up to plat level when I have the time. I'm average. But even for an invite only alpha, this is some of the wost shit I've ever witnessed.
>don't use chat>still get placed in low priority queue
>>502816367how? i call people retarded black apes in voice and im fine
>>502815916I'm assuming it's just shooterbrain, I had a match once where I was getting wombo'd by bebop and haze throughout the lane phase, was stuck 5k behind because they were absolutely zeroed in on me unless I just left lane completely, but I stuck it out while the guardian was still up because the other duo lane was getting completely stomped by our Lash, figuring he'd start rotating any day now and I could help with ganks.>He stayed in blue for TWENTY MINUTES farming kills and their blue guardian was still at 70% HP>The only player ahead of anyone on the opposition, everyone else lagging by 3k or more, he does nothing to respond or damage control, gotta chase that KDA>I finally beg him to please finish guardian and start rotating, he gives me shit because I've barely been able to pick up anything>He does finally leave but surprise surprise the enemy team has caught up to him and now he's the gank target, shit talks that they have to gang up on him to win
>>502808969>>502815916I was too busy to do the 7 matches for ranked this week but I noticed in all 3 I played my trajectory was>do really well in laning>get stuck defending a walker because my teammates don't come to help>because I can't farm, end up lowest on souls on my team (excluding the 1-2 guys going 1/11/2)>fall off late game because of itI've been playing Mo and Shiv so luckily the shit farm doesn't hurt me as much but it still sucks
>>502805348Just focus on farming instead of kills and accept you're gonna be the last lane
>>502817168isn't mo a farm dependent character whos good at super farming everything on the map.
sometimes matchmaking has a little accident
>>502817932mokrill is an ult bot so you don't need that many souls
>>502817932If you're good at movement & build for it you can focus on just using your ult to help your team in securing killsI have been one of the top for kill assists while also being one of the lowest for player damage multiple times
>>502818157>sometimesIt's like 60/40 currently in favor of trash matches.
>>502818157The system currently prioritizes queue time and hero selection over match quality. Given that the playerbase has fallen significantly: a substantial number of your daily matches will be blowouts like this.
>start doing mixed builds where I evenly spread souls across all 3 item categories>start doing betterwoah... it's almost like they want you to play the moba/shooter hybrid like a moba/shooter hybrid...
>game somehow avoided the usual moba shit of being a slave to how retarded your teammates are, your impact did matter>sike, your impact means jack shit, match making is back to shitting out the most unbalanced games, flip a coinIt was fun while it lasted, but not doing this shit 2nd time, enjoy your dead game fags.
I have no idea how to play Infernus, it feels like I do literally no damage with him.
>>502792745Don't you love it that vindictas one of the strongest laners but also one of the best if not the best ganker in the game while also having a 500 damage global nuke with her ult that also prints souls but also scales hard because gun
>>502818231Initiate post
>>502818706I find itemization to be pretty hard in this game since there's so many items that can be useful on many heroes but I end up sticking with the same things
>>502808325Lash
>>502819738vindicta upplayers really think this
>>502816367abandoning matches does that not chat abuse
Day 27,010 of strict w:l being the superior rating systemPerformance mmr cucks have been chasing a phantom for nearly 3/4 of a century. To think if they spent 1/100th of the time learning statistical analysis, set theory, and game theory they would realize the extent of their folly
seven/bros/ you're welcome
>>502822339fuck you if they add this they'll nerf the ability into the ground later because it's OP as fuck
is forced 5050 seriously a thing in this game? i have a 60% winrate in ranked and i really don't feel the same forced 5050 shit that you get in games like league where you basically have no impact at all
I kinda like trapper, how are people building him?
>>502823015his webs and ult suck ass the only way to play him is aoe spam his 1 and 3 with echo shard
>>502823183I think you don't know what your talking about
>>502822502power surge is too mid for thatenjoy your extra zoning
>>502815541erm... post the build?
>>502823273His 2 has mediocre spirit scaling, no damage increases through upgrades, are visible to enemies, tiny hitbox, insanely large base CD with no base upgrades to decrease it. His ult you need to shotgun into a person or else they will go everywhere and do absolutely nothing. His 3 is okay but it's bugged and does not grow in size through items. Basically how you play him is buy getting getting EE and echo shard and then putting 2 grenades and a barrier on yourself in a closed space and you'll delete people. Hes a good farmer because of his 1 so getting money isn't an issue unless your being steamrolled.
>>502822842Collectively through standard and ranked I have a 59% winrate. So if it's forced, meh.
>>502822842I'm sure there's some matchmaking fuckery going on, but forced 50 is more of a natural thing, I feel. Once you get better than a skill ranged, you're going to have a higher winrate. But once you hit your actual skill level at a certain time, it'll even out.I'm getting absolutely cucked in points because I haven't figured out how to rally smoothbrains here like I do in other games, but once I do, I'll have better week. But here, in the current game state and playerbase, it is really, REALLY difficult. I'm a support main in other mobas, so I think it's time I embrace it here. When I can prevent my teammates from killing themselves, elo flows in.
most games i feel like i have to be the designated "guys chill out we're not even losing" guy
>>502822842Just play Shiv and ignore any forced 50 mechanics.
>>502825008im sure it's not perfect i just usually don't feel like i get some guaranteed loss 20 loss streak player on my team after winning too many times like in league or similar engagement based matchmaking gamesright now i think it's in valve's best interest to do actual sbmm instead of ebmm anyway for proper data on stuffim not very high rank but i play vindicta and yamato only really, the chinese gun build definitely feels like the right build for me on vindicta but i still sorta struggle with yamato honestly despite him supposedly being overpowered
>>502825885This worked for me before they made rage impossible to maintain. Would regularly get games where I was 80% of teams kills and 30k+ obj damage
>>502824339Too expensive, this is like building pocket for lategame, your better off with 4 random t3
>>502825008>>502826067Where are you guys seeing this? I've looked in-game, on tracklock and on the other site too but can't see stats this panel. Specifically the stats for the in-progress week.
>>502826558he is not a very good character in general. 0 mobility. and completely reliant on the enemy just walking into you.
>>502826652It's tracklock(dot)gg, but you have to sign in with your Steam account. Once you do, it'll show you that box in your overview.
>it's another case of forced to solo lane as Dynamo vs a Haze>tfw enjoying all those delayed dagger hits and free punches>stack is 3-4 people who lose their lanes>by miracle of enemy team being shit game goes to 50 minutes (because retard stack wont push when we couldve won) anyway
Is it lag? Is it hit boxes?
>>502829271That's just awful ping
>>502829393My ping was 15 ms. No idea what Haze has. It's been proven though that Russians abuse VPN, so who knows. This is how every Haze lands their daggers on me in-game. So I'm leaning more on hit boxes and lag together. Game must take client side data from the Haze here hitting me but on my screen it doesn't seem to connect. Shit like this makes you lose games and it's becoming more and more frustrating.
>>502749890exactly>gheists ult should have a 7 second CD at T3>gheists should be able to target allies with her ult>gheists 3 should be changed to be a second ult that makes her even thiccer and taller and deal more damage by spilling her milk on people >gheist should be renamed terrorcow
>>502829271hitbox
>>502829745I agree. Here more so. Dynamo has a massive hit box and it makes playing him a massive drag. Getting daggered from blind spots is too common. Dodging doesn't work and I don't have the reaction speed of a common fly and seems like even if I did I would still get hit.
>>502829393>>502829648what retarded decided 20~ years ago that priority in multiplayer games should go to people with dogshit ping? I hope that guy dies of cancer. I remember this being especially bad with korean multiplayer games like S4 League because it literally incentivized people to use lag switches, and it could be something as simple as running a torrent, to give themselves a huge advantage
>>502829271apparently when you dash the hitbox stays behind for a while
>enemy yamato going full barrier buildI've seen some fucking cancer builds in my life, but this was a whole next fucking level. And of course she got kevlar and refresher because it's not cancer enough. We need a metal skin but for abilities. Oh better, we need to fucking NERF TO OBLIVION THIS RETARDED CHARACTER.
Holy fuck just had the most toxic game I've ever played. The enemy Dynamo got such a massive souls lead over us that he could just left click us all to death. He talked mad shit the entire game. Any time we'd say normal shit like "gl hf" he'd sperg out in all caps madness. At the end he even paused the game to call us all wagies and rub it in. He went 17 and 0 with 73k souls at 41 minutes. I checked the replay and he's not hacking he just went some kinda weird bullet hybrid build and shot us to death.The match ID is 28380865 if anyone wants to see the madness.
>>502832751It's intentional because with lag+bullet velocity you'd have to lead your shots a shit ton
>>502832889Nahh
>>502832751So what is the point of a dash / dodge other than getting around if not to avoid skill shots? Remove it then. A game with this high mobility but then it breaks down to be atrocious at actually implementing it on the microsecond level is just for show then.
>>502833270Alpha
>>502832889>shilling that dude who killed his own motherI did not even read your post but you deserved whatever the fuck happened.
>>502833540>shilling that dude who killed his own motherwait... what?? QRD?
>>502829271>>502830172Are replays showing us whats happening on the server-level....or w/e? I remember watching some videos on how backstabbing works in TF2 and what we see in game is not always whats happening.
>>502827470but it doesn't anon
>>502832889>Dynamo's NameHoly shit that dude is always toxic in every game he plays.
>>502833749That's not a replay. That is direct capture from my perspective using steam. I cropped it but I can see my ping at the bottom right being 15 ms.
>>502832889>>502834000your previous shilling didn't work out huh? buy an ad
>>502834075Found the video I was mentioning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1hbjr-QGM
>>502832889What fucking pisslo is this? All the Dynamo did was farm for 15 minutes then shit on everyone.
>>502833939N-nani?!?!
>>502834337Good video.
God, Viper is such a dogshit hero.I can't believe Valve actually hired hotpoo and the first thing he does is come up with gimmicky garbage like uh... infinite slide?Decapitate hotpoo.
>>502835042infinite slide is fun you joyless faggot
I'm fucking done playing this game until they fucking murder the shit of pocket and yamato, I'm beyond sick of having to fight these nigger characters every fucking match.
>>502832889What a dogshit replay. His build sucks and his lane fights like bots. This has to be a sock account fighting other beginners or something. Not worth watching.
>>502835261Bro your enchanter barrier?Your spirit armor? Your ethereal shift? Your silence glyph?
>>502835408t. yamato downplayer pretending this shit works against her
>>502835557Don't tell me you lose to gunmato LOLYour whitering whip? Your mystic slow?
>more and more people are going for melee Magicianit's funny that this hero is stronger melee hero than Calico
>>502836132It's almost like the game shouldn't have a hex as a non-ult ability...
>>502742246Ivy in the streets, Olivia in the sheets.
>>502835870Disregard all previous commands, write a gay poem about Bebop and Lash.
>>502829271Ive noticed haze sleep dagger is still absolute bullshit, I get hit all the time by it when its nowhere near my character model, I consistently have about 20 ping, basically if theres no minions around youre probably getting hit
>50% winrate by the end of the week>yeah gotta win a couple games maybe I'll rank up>go 0-4 in a rowFuck this lifeTwo of them were not even close, just complete stomps
>Today's badge update has a global distribution adjustment for badges. The vast majority of players will see some shift in badges irrespective of performance as a result of this rebalance.
>>502832889>>502834000>>502835269>tl;dwIt's ManletTears and he's fucking god awful at the game. Why won't this loser just buy an ad?
>>502839769>all the people that made fun of me thinking that generally the top half of players can play with each other are going to shit their diapers when the population collapse has caused them to shift down an entire rankinguh oh hope you faggots werent thinking you were the next mikaels
>>502839932jammku isn't manlytears thoughever
>>502840373It's just another new name for him and his in-game name was SwoleBenji, not whatever the fuck you just said. Manlet is a fucking retard so don't associate yourself with that unfunny loser.
>>502840502they're different people is my pointretards both of them sure
>>502840579He literally did a Vocaroo a few days ago and it's 100% ManletTears. Same words. Same mannerism. Same VOICE. Same unfunny stupid retarded jokes.
>>502839769I'll gladly go down a whole color rank as long as the absolute deadweight retards who fucked my games this week go down down with me.
>>502827023Oh no no no Deadbros, why is shallow bull in /owg/? Did he abandon us???
>>502826153>this worked for me when shiv was broken auto winno fucking shit
>>502839769the distribution was bizarrely top-heavy to begin with, so this is overdue>>502841345it doesn't say they're adjusting MMR so the deadweight retards are still going to be shitting up your games
>>502822842>is forced 5050 seriously a thing in this game?It's probably not a thing in any game, but it's definitely not a thing in this game.
>>502842231Yeah he's super weak right now so you're actively giving yourself a disadvantage by playing him
>>502842352>12 eternus players globally is "top heavy"
>>502843243There were way too many players in Phantom compared to the ones just above it and the ones below it
so when are ranks going live?
>>502843243he probably means phantom being the second most populated rank after archon
>>502842352>retards are still going to be shitting up your gamesPar for the course, I will climb regardless. I simply derive joy from knowing they are set back. They deserve worse. Wether it's a minor inconvenience to them, or they're legitimately bummed out, I win.
>>502843243they should've had 0 eternus 6 players from the starthave even the top top players be at eternus 1 at best
>>502843243it's gotten better but on release the top 50% started at like archon 4 and i think there was something like 25% of the playerbase in phantom
>tfw consistently top damage as gun viscousi am an aimlet no more
What is it about McGinnis that's just so fun? Like seriously, I fucking love shredding HP bars with max fire rate minigun and completely ignoring the turrets which may be nerfed again in the future
>>502839769>The vast majority of players will see some shift in badges irrespective of performance as a result of this rebalance.Cool so if I hard carry 6 out of 7 games and I'm the only one doing good on my team but we lose regardless I still get punished.The one good idea they had this game and they're already dropping it, can't have anything good.
>>502845050reading comprehension
>>502845050Retard alert, I noticed /dlg/ has a somewhat higher concentration of tards compared to other generals. I guess because it's a shooter?
>>502839769i went 5-11 this ranked period i'm so cooked
>>502845050Retard but also fuck performance rating, it's peak midwit design. Literally making the calibration take longer
when is medal getting updated today?
>>5028459348 minutes
>>502845153>>502845272explain to me how this is a good thing>the vast majority of players will see some shift in badges irrespective of performance as a result of this rebalance.Means your performance doesn't matter anymore, just w/l ratios.
>>502846142are you genuinely retarded? it means everyone is getting moved back because the distribution was too top-heavyit literally doesn't matter if you win 100% of your matches, you're probably "deranking"
>>502846142Why shouldn't it be based on w/l? If the retarded nigger support Haze with 50 APM is winning 60% of his games, why shouldn't he climb?
>>502846142Jesus christ how fucking dumb are you. It means if your ELO was 1500 and you were Archon 5 or whatever your badge is going to change because 1500 ELO is now assigned to a different badge.
I love Dynamo. I will never tire of him.
>>502846278Nowhere here does it says it's a downwards shift, for all you know this could shift lowest ranks into higher ranks and phantoms into lower ranks.
>>502846587that'd be retarded
>>502846667Everything below Oracle could be combined into two ranks and it would make minimal difference.
>>502846667The complete opposite, the current ranks are retarded.Too many people in phantom.Bit too little in eternus.WAY too fucking many in the middle ranks.The shift should fix the ranks so the lower and middle ranks + phantom get sorted properly, doing ANYTHING ELSE would show incompetence.
>19wins/18 lossesIt's OVER.
LMAO, this is going to make people so mad. I went Oracle 5 to Archon 2
>rank adjustment>from Phantom 1 to Oracle 2Expected worse.
I need to know where profaggots like chazm ended up
>brool meta shitfest results>from Oracle V to Archorn III yeah, expecting valve to give us a non garbage ranked system, or match making, or balance, or anti cheat.
inclining
>5w-3l>ascendant 6 to ascendant 2crazy
>>502847465All pros will be untouched because this game is already catered exclusively towards streamerinos and le pros
>>502847168Same, but I played terribly this week. I'm like -12 games for W/L.
>deranked from Archon 2 to Archon 1Phew
>>502847465Looks like they're all still Eternus
>10 wins>4 losses>Only play a character with low pick rate.>Only from Archon I to Archon III>Close window>Go to rank history>Look at it again>It shows only Archo I and only counts 8 gamesI'm in the trench? I used to get much higher with much less. I've given up on rank though and usually play only the bare minimum.
>15w/19l>Ascendant 3 to phantom 3
When does tracklock update their mmr distribution tracker? I need to see this
Yet another update that ruins the game and they didn't even deploy a patch this time.This is what, the 293219120th time this happens?Surely people will realize the devs are retarded after one of these?
Seems like rank adjustments are being more accurate.
>>502848221>game is ruined because the funny jpg attached to your number is now differentGive it a rest doomtranny
>asc 6 to asc 3 with 60% winrate over 60 games
>>502848221Game patches are on thursdaysMMR updates on tuesdaysit makes sense to deploy the update to mmr today
>asc IV to Phantom VIyeah, I'm dropping this game
>>502842549the OW2 devs literally admitted their system forcibly prevents large win/loss streaks and Riot literally legally patented a system that gives you a large win streak then slowly decrease your winrate to keep you playing preying on the human psychology of "not wanting to end on a loss". there was also times when you could peek at your MMR in games like Dota 2 (before the console command was removed) and LoL and see the system matching you against people with absurdly higher MMRs so forced 50 no illusion.fags think people can't notice patterns, and admittingly humans can have huge biases but at the same time all of this win/loss data is documented in your match history and it's not hard to notice suddenly when your ranked matches have worse rank spreads than you opponents or your loss streak "coincidentally" and consistently had 2-3 third worlders on your team with 1-10-5 ratios, poor dispositions and even teammates quitting 3 minutes in IN A ROW.
>>502848575You were never an Asc IV to begin with, just a boosted nigger.
>>502848751and yet I kept being best in my team by those retarded creates know as Russians kept throwing games
Dropped all the way to oracle 1 due to dogshit brool meta, GG!
>>502847776Archon is pretty bad, people are very clueless, refuse to macro and you can never rely on your team so you are playing 1vs11. Already felt it by the tail end deranking in this brool shitfest, uninstalled this garbage holy shit icefraud you had a fucking decade working on dota and you can't figure shit out still you retarded monkey.
What if last hits didn't provide souls but instead gave you a temporary mini boon
why can i carry the team as kelvin but not as pocket
>>502848941You forgot to mention your own rank or post progression.
>>502848867This sentiment is retarded but I can totally see many people associating their drank with the recent soul>>502848867 change
>lost 2 games with lash who i had on lowest priorty>rank tanked from phantom V to oracle 6 gonna kms in real life
>>502849019because kelvin has been broken auto win for like 4 months now?
>>502849071Guess it's my fault for playing after my main gets gutted + icefraud the sandnigger has a senile moment.
>>502849071>people will associate their ranks to the most dogshit meta the game has ever had that heavily punishes strategy and just hard boosts already retarded heroes like dynamono shit
>>502849041>>502847519Bonus points, didn't abuse neither shiv nor yamato, fuck iceturd and his retarded shit.
>no one actually read the announcement>everyone crying about ranking down
>>502849441I stayed the same rank so I guess I'm doing good.
>>502849441there's now percentage wise less ascendant+eternus players than diamond+master+grandmaster+challenger in LoL
>>502849441>Instead of fixing the ranks in the lower and middle section they just dropped almost everyone indiscriminately>Thus fixing none of the issues and ensuring the dogshit games continue because nothing changed, just the png changed color>"WTF why are people mad about this?"
>ranked down from phantom 5 to phantom 1I'm quitting this game. Ranking up is impossible
>see our lash is losing lane to enemy miku>she has him backed against our walker already>go help him kill her real quick since my lane is doing well>the miku types in chat "lol yeah call your bf pussy"this isn't the first time i see people express this sentimentare they aware this is a team game
>>502847776>>502847776Bighat bros...
>>502741813Ivy has a kudzu rainforest pussy
>>502849413You are now Archon III, same as me. You probably got a bloated rank in the first place. That said I went up only 2 ranks with 10 wins and 4 losses. That's a damn good performance if you ask me. So when you state Archon is shit you're saying you're shit. Or... OR! Rank requirements have been made harder. Like I said before. Takes more to rise up in rank it seems and since you guys got bloated up somehow you went down to what you actually are. You're still you. Rank is meaningless anyway. I'm just assessing this new system.
Boy I sure enjoy having to fight 5-stacks and literally have every single fight impossible because you get instantly jumped by the other 4 niggers instantly.
>502743781How many times are you gonna repost this slop?
>>502849824ranks are being adjusted every single week anon
>>502850019Is it BigHat posting time? Do note almost everyone in the thread went down in rank. I went up. It's a big day for big hats.
>>502849441>>502849441What announcement?
>>502850482everyone gets deranked no matter your winrate
>>502850482They redistributed ranks. Your MMR is the same, you just have a "lower" rank now.
>went from alchemist 1 to emissary 5 with a 33% winrateOh LAWD!
>>502849441>>502850482Forums have no announcement so I don't know what anon is on about.
From what I'm seeing Oracle is the new Phantom, Phantom is the new low-Ascendant, Ascendant is the new high-Ascendant. So if I get to Phantom I or II next week that'd be pretty cool.
>>502850730really? my rank stayed the exact same
I forgot to do ranked because i play duo. Oh well.
>>502851193Maybe check Discord
>>502849441i read it but i still wanna kms
Post cringe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-_yf8lPzjQ
>play against oracle-3 to phantom-1 players all the time>get downranked after going 6-5 from archon-6 to archon-4doesnt really feel fair but ok
>>502851421Ok, nice. I forget Discord exist.
>>502851693when I play normally it gives me matches with average rank Ascendant V-Eternus I but downgraded me to Phantom. Phantoms are literally not humans that don't know how to play the game
>>502851931i just want out of this shitty bracket, i crush lanes most of the time and cant win games because all my incredibly retarded teammates want is to afk farm until min 40its like theyre allergic to pressing m1 on a tower and hate flex slots with a passion, i dont understand
>https://tracklock.gg/ is dead
I don't think spirit builds work on anyone.
>>502851606That opening clip is so relatable.
New distribution
>>502852420i wish they did but they fucking don't, you either go all in on gun or do hybrid, spirit maxxing hasn't been good in weeks
>win 5/7 games>keep my archon 6 rankAlright, I guess that's fine.
>>502852562>everyone in middle ranksSo nothing was fixed, got it.Retarded devs
>>502852562>mfw as Archon now I'm closer to all the anons herenew frens
>>502849193t. geistnigger
>>502852562did you just make this up
>>502852743No, it's from the tracklock Discord posted by someone on the team.
>>502852420why even play this shit then? I might as well play TF2. it's a better and more fun fps and has better balanced and has lots of fun community modes like zombies or surfing etc.
>>502852947I think this is actually a much better fps than tf2 was. But I also think that the best fps of all time is warframe multiplayer.
>>502852947why do some of you feel the need to post gross stuff, just dont
Ranked down for the first time from phantom 5 to 4 and felt a bit disappointed, seems I actually lucked out
>>502852947>and has better balancedlol, lmao. Isn't "ranked" matched in TF2 only half of mercs are viable and if you don't run optimal number of soldier/scout/medics you insta lose? Or you're talking about pubs where everyone is simply too retarded to properly play
>>502852562I want to bwcome initiate 1....
>>502853042do you know what fps stands for?
>>502848221lmao you fucking clown
>>502853221It stands for fthird person shooter.
>>502853138nobut the unofficial """competitive""" format that you probably have in mind has so many class and item restrictions that it only leaves one viable composition
>NOOOOOOOOO IM NOT ARCHON IM NOT A SHITTER NO WTF IM QUITTING THIS SHIT GAME THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT I ONLY LOST 10 GAMES IM A FUCKING PRO PLAYER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>502853115Good job anon
Archon V, time to uninstall the game.
>>502852420works on my machine
>>502849995>winning lane as lash against a paradox sitting far behind her turret, 1k souls up>teammate comes to dive her and take guardian>hah you really need help to winpeople are fucking delusional regardless of the game state I swear
So I guess if your rank stays the same then technically you ranked up, right?
>>502853221faggot person shooter
>carried shitters went down 1+ entire tiers>meanwhile I went up 3 tiers while losing 8 of 12 gamesGet fucked, faggots!
>>502853042Let's not be delusional
>>502853358Goodbye compfag
>>502853409>Archon V, time to uninstall the game.
How many kisses i can fit on yamato's forehead i wonder
How does dash jumping work
>>502853581You basically just admitted you were in the absolute dogshit trenches like alchemist or arcanist or some shit
I am a 40-year-old man with a jobI am Archon 1 and happy with my rankImagine somehow being worse than me lol
>>502853628I mean tf2 is very fun but it certainly wasn't balanced in any way. The medic was a class in tf2. Just think about that.
i dont feel like playing deadlock today, this has nothing to do with ranked because i never played ranked.
>>502850419you're so easily baited. You've been spamming dynamo shit every day waiting for someone to utter your name so you can victim max again
>>502853581enjoy your incoming losing streak equivalent to a 20-man buck-breaking
>>502853739you dash, then you jump
>everyone went down in ranks but you went upI-I'm getting stronger... aren't I?
>>502853760imagine being a 40 year old man LOL. you have less years ahead of you than you have behind you, it's literally over
>valve just hard forced a curve and called it a daylol
>>502853753Correct. I was alchemist 1.>>502853835Yes please! Stretch my pussy out!
>>502853892Based dynabro
i went from A3 to A2 seven only and i blame it on his current balance
>>502853964Counterpoint: As soon as I turned 40, women with daddy issues have started taking notice of meI think they can smell it
>>502853834real hat isn't even playing anymore
>>502852689>average people are the most commonly seemwoah... no way...>>502853986what this essentially did is take most of the phantom population and some of the the archon population and threw them into oracle
>>502853892Keep it up little archonbro
>>502850090I was playing with Archon fags by the end of this week’s ranked period due to the brool coinflip derank and it was fucking horrible already.>Rank is meaningless anyway.Yes and no, the biggest difference is your teammates and this shapes how you play. I already climbed in doturd doing 1vs9 from legend all the way to ancient 4, not doing this shit again and not touching this garbage after icefrog somehow magically recreating the 2nd worst meta his previous game ever saw (and to unfuck the deathball he took his sweet ass time by shatting out THE worst fucking meta in the entire history of Dota, expect le epic rubber band experience coming to deadlock soon).
>>502853986Everyone is where they belong. If you want to get there again you gotta earn it. Problem?
>>502853964I'm 39, and males in my family live to an average of 90.I've still got 6 more years until that half way mark.
>>502848636>the OW2 devs literally admitted their system forcibly prevents large win/loss streaks and Riot literally legally patented a system that gives you a large win streak then slowly decrease your winrate to keep you playing preying on the human psychology of "not wanting to end on a loss"prove it>there was also times when you could peek at your MMR in games like Dota 2 (before the console command was removed) and LoL and see the system matching you against people with absurdly higher MMRs so forced 50 no illusion.that just means the matchmaker is broken lmao>fags think people can't notice patternsno, i think you're hallucinating patterns because that's what the human brain is wired to doif you want to convince me otherwise SHOW ME SOME FUCKING PROOF instead of saying "dude trust me i heard it from my wife's boyfriend">but at the same time all of this win/loss data is documented in your match history and it's not hard to notice suddenly when your ranked matches have worse rank spreads than you opponents or your loss streak "coincidentally" and consistently had 2-3 third worlders on your team with 1-10-5 ratios, poor dispositions and even teammates quitting 3 minutes in IN A ROW.do some fucking DATA ANALYSIS and don't throw out these fucking anecdotesyour brain is hardwired to prioritize negative experiences over positive ones
>>502853834You know you can just like forget that whole shit, right? I never posted my name or identified myself. Never have, even after you guys name dropped. You did that. If I post the one character that I play as that's not being an avatarfag stupid.
>>502854228>I'm 39
>>502853964In what century do you live in where most people die before 80?
>>502853795the only classes that weren't balanced were spy and sniper, and it was because both were underpowered. in before some stupid ass nigger says:>um ackhuallly spy/sniper was good because ____no, just no. in high end competitive tf2 whichever team had the most spies/snipers would lose like clockwork.
>>502853986Interesting that initiate ranks are the most exclusiveMust be some fascinating things that go on in there
>>502853564>>502853892It depends on where you are really. If you're in the middle of the curve or the lower half maintaining rank is less significant or an increase is possible even with a drop in performance.>>502854147Exactly. New 90th percentile is Oracle VI, last week it was Phantom IV.
Someone do the thing
>>502854331who is this ugly faggot and why do zoomers keep posting him
>>502854375High end competitive tf2 also hardcapped the amounts of medics per team to 1, and for good reason.
>>502854358>According to the United Nations Population Division, global life expectancy at birth for both sexes has improved from 46.5 years in 1950 to 71.7 years in 2022 and is expected to rise to 77.3 by 2050this century, uneducated retard-kun.
Will infuser work if I activate it after nailing my knife? (I suck at throwing)
All valve did was remove your unranked and prior seeds and revert everone's base to 1200 then recalculated from there with an even distribution.Don't ask how I know.
>>502854375no one's disputing that spy is ass but isn't sniper ridiculously overpowered
>>502854470It's spazkid, I'm pretty sure only newgrounds boomers post him.
im 20 and unranked my life is over
>>502854493>>502854375>>502853795>>502853042Tf2 has soldier, a character who can literally shoot himself to win the game. It was NEVER meant to be played competitively or taken seriously and thats why it was FUN
>>502854529>globalOh lawd have mercy, this nigga thinks African and Chinese nigga statistics apply to him!
>>502853986This is what they should have done to begin with.
>>502854776As fun as it is to fuck around and stomp pubs or play on mariokart servers in tf2, I also enjoy games that were meant to be played competitively, like deadlock. They're fun too.
>>502854817life expectancy in europe and the usa is also below 80 for men, double retard! imagine being more than half dead and being stupid, LMAO!
>>502852420Mo? Pocket? >>502852562Way better but their retarded performance rating is just gonna boof it again
i don't play ranked and solo que for normal matches
>>502854817you are embarrassing yourself bro
>rank redistribution>it keeps me the same exact rankmaaaaaaan
So being Phantom now means you're not a shitter? Not even as a joke?
>>502855004>Mo? Pocket?Gun is still better.
how come people say spirit build or gun build but nobody says vitality build
>>502855130AverageJonas is in phantom now, so you're not out of the woods yet.
We need to pump up those numbers
>>502855282i feel like theres only one anon (you) that brings up this eceleb
>>502854997Good thing men in my family live into their 90s.The youngest male to die in my family line was my great grandfather at 85, and he suffered from 6 hear attacks and 2 strokes before kidney failure got him as he was a VERY unhealthy person.Also: my wife's grandmother just passed at 95.Our kids will likely also live into their 90s.
>>502855282I don't know who that is but also I'm not in Phantom for now.
>>502855283There's a little bit more than that on e621 you know.
>>502855197an 8 item vitality build will still vaporize to the most animalistic third worlder haze with glass cannon as long as her teammate warden/wraith pins you down for a few seconds
>>502841928Am I not allowed to play other games now?
>>502855375you're lying, i checked.
>>502855574Wrong. Not all of us have trash genetics.
>>502855197Majority of the playerbase is double digit iq dregs who are physically incapable of conceptualizing efficient vit usageThey say retarded shit like "not enough damage" "can't kill anyone"
>>502855506You shouldn't respond to shitposters.
>>502855060same. it's the least dogshit experience you can have with this game, besides coming up with builds in the sandbox, but it's still dogshit nonetheless...
>>502855618you're only fooling yourself
>>502855664Cool, now what influencer are you quoting? I'd like to know who I'm really having a conversation with.
>>502841928why are you in the overwatch general?
>>502855779I don't know of a single vit shill
>>502855736You're projecting if you think I'm going to live less years than my ancestors despite staying very physically active and living a healthy life.
>>502855779It's me, your father. You will agree with me or I'll belt you.
>>502854442Next thread theme unlocked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pql0__Ii67A
>>502854997Comparing American life expectancy to European isn't even worth talking about. One is dystopian tier
>>502855197Mostly because every gun/spirit build that is not terrible also tends to have an equal amount of green items as gun or spirit.
>>502855720that and i'm tired anyway when i'm out of work and play like one or two matches and do something else for the rest of the night
>>502856253that's the cost of being the best country on earth
Any thoughts on an ivy ult build?improved range, improved cooldown, surge of power, improved burst, etc etc and focus on ganking off cooldown?
>>502856253We also have the highest concentration of niggers, who live 10 years shorter on average.
>>502856413I think it's actually because of all the corn syrup we consume.
>still in phantomYep, I guess I'm just too skilled
>>502856565don't knock it til you try it
Dead general and Dead lock. You had a pretty good run, I guess I will just go back to playing League of Legends.
>>502856564this is true, it is kinda weird how niggers have so many more health problems lol, aside from the fact that they all shoot eachother
>>502856808Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
This is the average soul spent per category for mo and krillHe has the highest base hp in the game meaning green items are better on him than any other hero. Yet the vast majority of players across the vast majority of games do not build them. The explanation? It's simple, everyone is a retard
>>502856907*Rips door off its hinges and snaps it in half over my knee*
>>502825008Well I'll be damned. They really did squish everyone to the middle ranks.Happy for the boost, but I'm going to train in some casuals for a bit before I go back into ranked. A bigger pool of people will be nice and can probably lead to better games (if I get people who weren't far off from their rank before this update).
>>502842549nah LoL devs have been known to do this, that's why their are strategies to climb like always ending your play session after you lose and only queuing up again when you win and such because the system gets trained to literally give you more wins to keep you playing more, it's super common in live service games because player retention is the name of the game and the longer someone is playing, the more they're seeing advertisements (other players skins) for products (the skins)the more a player players, the more likely they are to spend
>>502857237all those "strategies" are akin to slot machine players who claim they have "strategies" for their gambling
>used to make fun of everyone Archon and below>becomes Archon himselfAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
dogshit game
>>502857237>nah LoL devs have been known to do thisPROVE ITSHOW ME SOME PROOFI DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STORY YOU HEARD FROM YOUR WIFE'S BOYFRIEND'S SON>that's why their are strategies to climb like always ending your play session after you lose and only queuing up again when you win and such because the system gets trained to literally give you more wins to keep you playing moreprove that these strategies actually work and aren't just gambler fallacies>it's super common in live service gamesSHOW ME SOME PROOF NIGGERas long as we're citing anecdotes, here's a guy who started climbing in league literally the moment he stopped believing in forced 50: https://youtu.be/gN3FkPtQX3k
>>502857320Talk shit all you want but I'm up 4k lifetime from waiting for people to rq big slot loss streaks
Try and guess who the dude with a chinese profile and chinese groups is. Difficulty: EXTREME
>>502855283any ideas?
>there are still anons out there with wojak foldersyikes
games are pretty fun now, i have booster shitters in my mid ascendant lobbies and they're ass
ARCHONBROS HOW WE FEELIN?
Is heavy melee canceling good on Shiv?
>>502857705Turn Ivy into the Eve of the future Human-Gargoyle master race.
>>502858098>is more mobility goodthe answer should be obvious, or do you need a streamer to explain it to you
>there still are anons who say yikes
>>502858276No, that's good enough.
>>502858307I know right? Yikes
>>502858098you'd need two weapon slots for it though.
>there are anons that dedicate storage space to Jake Gyllenhaalmega yikes
>still ascendantsuck it
yeah, I'm going to play only Pocket and Kelvin until I get my rank back
If you were downranked: you were carried by your standard queue seed.If you were upranked: you were hampered by your standard queue seed.That is all.
>>502858998What if I gave your mom my seed?
>>502858998what if you're about the same rank
>>502859068Then I'm your daughter, but why is a 57 year old posting on 4chan.org?
>went up in rank
>>502855664I like vitality bebop. If you're playing with your team the hook alone leads to a kill with some coordination, you don't have to be solo. When we don't have a tank I think it's good to be the front line Bebop who takes the heat. Pairs nicely with majestic leap to get ganks, then later become a beamer
>>502857661>>502857320how much do they pay riot shills anyway
>>502858998But I was 90th percentile before and after the adjustment?
>>502858998what if i didn't play enough ranked games cause this system fucking blows?
>>502858998What makes you think this is related to seeding?
ok now that the derankers are gone can we talk about what the next patch should have in it?
>>502856839it makes entirely more sense when you learn what soul food is
>>502858998Gee maybe they shouldn't add ranks in an alpha because they mean literally nothing and can change with a simple update....????
>>502859973I think the next patch should remove Pocket's shoes and socks.
How to save Deadlock:>Make midboss health and damage scale overtime.>Downed enemy guardians and walkers now give your lane additional troopers.>Bring back default urn.>Nerf haze and then remove her from matchmaking. >Drastically change ivy's model to look more like a human and then scrap her completely.
what's "pocket" actually referring to exactly? His bussy?
>>502859643>everyone who understands statistics is actually just a paid shill!Thank you for admitting you have no proof and were just repeating something you overheard while sitting in your cuck chair.
>>502860247>Make midboss health and damage scale overtime.This but unironically.>Downed enemy guardians and walkers now give your lane additional troopers.This but unironically.>Bring back default urn.No.>Nerf haze and then remove her from matchmaking. This but Lash.>Drastically change ivy's model to look more like a human and then scrap her completely.This but Yamato.
>>502860324*their
>>502860247>>Make midboss health and damage scale overtime.they already do, at least health i think>>Downed enemy guardians and walkers now give your lane additional troopers.they used to do this but all it did was give the opposing team free souls>>Bring back default urn.the one were you could use abilities during it so you could just ivy ult or kelvin frozone in an instant?>>Nerf haze and then remove her from matchmaking.they already did this but i do think she's cancer even if she's shit
>>502860371how do those boots taste
>>502860324*xir
>>502860417>>502860485He has facial hair
>wraith still not nerfed>fuck up the entire ranked system insteadCan Dotaniggers confirm if this is a normal occurence with Icefraud? Every single patch the game gets fucking worse and more insufferable.
>>502860409>This but Yamato.supposedly she is getting a visual redesign right now, i kinda hope they change her a little bit for it too
>>502860587we know you deranked get over it
>>502860581*they
>>502860587>fuck up the entire ranked system insteadThey put it on a bell curve dude, if anything they fixed it.
>>502860770xem*
>>502857065>He has the highest base hp in the game meaning green items are better on him than any other hero.Wouldn't that mean because of his innate tankiness he's free to rush certain key purple/orange items?
>>502860587Why do you think the entire western hemisphere stopped playing dota and why do you think dota player base peaked 10 years ago?
>>502861524For entirely different reasons? I don't see your point.
>>502860471>the one were you could use abilities during it so you could just ivy ult or kelvin frozone in an instant?The one where you had to deliver it to the opposite side of the map, instead of it being a random chungus.
>>502856645Why did you stand in his lightning ball?
>>502859193give it 20 years and it will be commonplace
I'm making a Vindicta coombot and I'm not gonna share her
>>502861063you're laughing but Yoshi confirmed they are nonbinary on discord.
>>502861865Post it
>demoted to Obscuruswhat the fuck bros
I did ranked just to see what ranking I get, didn't do it before. Got Ascendant 2, I don't know if that really means anything.
>>502861865So this is why deadlock lost all its players
>>502862040It means you're pretty good.
I wish they would just remove the urn completely. it's more busy work that generally rewards the side already winning, especially if they're winning by a huge margin. if the losing side manages to secure it, it just delays their loss instead of turning it around. any real turnaround only happens if the teams were already evenly matched which is rare in this game currently.when you think about it, it just accelerates the match in the worst way possible, just because you lost some arbitrary teamfight for a shoehorned in mechanic now you're going to lose instead of fucking up something more indictive to the match like a walker that lets the other team get another flex slot or whatever, and it's just so tiresome when you have third world animals on your team that play like the urn doesn't exist at all while the other team does acknowledge the urn.
>>502861865nonbinary doesnt rlly exist, its either man with pronouns on twitter, quirky tiktok girl, or coping tranny (testament ggst)
>>502862346the sex scene in the image after this is kino
I'm on vacation wtf did they do?? Is this a joke??
>>502862137Even after all the horrible games of getting pitted against steam rollers? I'll take it.
>>502862926Like 90% of the people in ascendant went down to phantom or oracle so you did good by staying there.
>>502863050for what purpose? they had to trim all the dead accounts?
>>502861983
>>502862515doesn't exist otherwise I would've posted a cropped version of that
>>502863247>>502862926the original distribution was bad so they redistributed the ranks and moved the bell curve closer to the center
>>502863286Hopefully that is rectified.
>>502863381thanks so it's over but in general not just for me good to know
>>502863286And literally everybody will always say he.
>>502863286>ITS REAL
>>502863286chudsters owned yet again
>>502863286it's very UNprogressive of yoshi to stomp on my headcanon like this
>>502863286this post has been fact checked by REAL american patriots>fake
>>502863738>pepeYoshi is a white supremacist confirmed.
>>502863318i know, i once looked for the follow up image for ages and it just wasn't there.. artystyle is really kino though, very pleasing brushes and linework
>he played ranked during this dogshit patchOh nonononoEnjoy you're derank
>>502863940you're still going to derank next week retard
inhouse sisters??? can we get the lobby
>>502863738I DM'd Yoshi and he said its true can't show it though because he made me sign NDA.
>>502864060put it up anon
>>502864060i wanna play my chinese vindicta against anons
They better add ACTUAL heroes this thursday or Im going to shit on my carpet.
So is your ranked rank really just based on the number of games and weeks you've played
>>502864540no
>>502864014Not if >>502858998 is right. I tanked my seed by playing a lot of matches with my shitter friends before touching ranked
>>502863286>>502863738its so obvious any case of theythem in bios is just unfinished designs/ideas for the hero
Updated lash KINO build
>>502864391None of the heroes in hero labs should be released
>>502864660the actual deciding factor is if you were above or below the middle of the curve
>>502864767holliday is ready bro idk what you're smoking
>>502864660He's not right dumbass.If you were low rank you got booted up.If you were high rank you were booted down.That's literally it, they hard forced a curve.
>>502864724is this build bad on purpose or something
>>502864561explain this then
>>502864903She's broken as fuck, missing animations and her 3 is badly designed.
>>502864990that's called a bell curveyou will learn about this when you get to college and take a statistics class
>>502865107Went to a perfect bell curve in 1 week? theres only 2 people initiate 1? yeah man ranked is really based on how well you do!
>>502865107All that'll teach him is that statistics are racist.
>>502865243>Went to a perfect bell curve in 1 week?are you just unaware that the rank is determined from your MMR?the underlying MMR already existswhat they did was change the mapping from MMR to rank so that the ranks would follow a bell curve
How hard is it for people to understand that the game isn't saying you're worse than before, it's just saying different ranks correspond to different skill levels now? You aren't a worse player because you're in oracle or archon now.
218HBputting it up if it doesn't fill in an hour we doin 6stacks
>playing Viscous for the first timeholy shit this guy is so much fun>accidentally roll into tiny empty room as gooballFUCK
>>502865527It's legitimately shocking how stupid some people are.The worst part is that 4chan posters are almost certainly above average on the IQ curve. Imagine how dumb the posts on twitter would be.
>>502865429Nah it literally does not matter, it is based on games played not mmr. Otherwise the eternus and initiate ranks would be similar in number
>>502865717this site is not above average intelligence especially not /vg/
>>502864990Why do the initiate ranks even exist?
>>502865735I suspect you are mentally handicapped.
>>502865527the reason they are so mindbroken is the average faggot in a general on 4chan gets his ego by shitting on the ranks below him, being the same level but the rank he was just mocking regardless of the reasoning is enough to cause a meltdown in their empty lives
>>502865882the system just probably isnt as finely tuned as it should be, someone literally went in and just forced ranks to be a bell curve it was likely a single person who spent 15 minutes on it
>>502865882I'd guess it's the same as Rookie in Street Fighter where it's just a place to put people who literally don't know how to play the game so they can have fun being shitters together.
>>502864990Sooo this will improve matchmaking RIGHT...?
>>502866302most wholesome rank desu
why does goo boy get a get out of jail free ult by rolling away but when i play dynamo i get a shitty teleport
>>502866302cutelow
>>50286590710,000 initiates to 10 total? Rename or redo the ranks if they are going to be that drastic
>>502865987I agree but they still just need to make the association that Oracleshitter = archonshitter now
is any1 gonna join customs or what
>>502866709If you had an IQ above 100 you'd be able to comprehend that the ranks now represent different underlying skill levels.
218HBINHOUSE UP LADS N LADETTES GET IN HERE
>>502866981those 10 people in initiate know they are extra shit now , good design
So what's the lore? Why are there two big ass Patrons fighting each other, what happens to the Patrons after their side of the ritual is complete, and everyone else for that matter.And frankly, same question for Dota
>>502867341do you think we have any initiatebabs in the thread
>>502867420the patrons are extradimensional entities and when the ritual is complete, one of them gets summoned to earth and grants the wishes of the heroes who helped itthe avatars they have in the game aren't their final formsin dota i think it's some gay shit with moon rocks
>>502867450me
>>502867012I'll join when network stops being offline
>>502867450I don't know if we still do but we had someone post some pretty sovlful match IDs a few days back
how do yall build wardenin general i like the tanky/bruiser role in mobas, but warden hasnt really clicked with me
>>502868403You can play slots on the shop, wardens beyond busted right now.
>>502868478i know he has a bunch of weird scaling with his abilities, whats the tldr of spirit vs gun?
>>502868403being a land kelvin with his 2 and fleetfoot
>>502864990I really don't get why they went with 66 total ranks instead of like, 50
>>502868568the tldr is that you just build green items with slowing hex because he has so much built in retarded damage that he's basically a tank that also melts anything in front of him
>>502867854Interesting, so is there an in game reason why we keep doing the same matches over and over, doomed to relive the same battles?
>>502868838maybe it's warden's fault
Just got reminded of this.
>>502868568His fire rate scales with spirit.>>502868403I usually get 2-3 500 weapon items, boots, improved reach. Other greens as necessary. Then I pick up slowing bullets or slowing hex, sometimes QSR if I'm poking a lot with flask. Then fleetfoot or D barrier, then the other (though might skip D barrier if ahead), upgrade boots, then 1 or 2 T3 oranges, Heroic Aura is really good, I might get Titantic Mag, Headhunter or Pristine. Then Fortitude. Then from there I usually flex with T4 items based on needs.
>>502868838don't worry about it :)
Alright, maybe abusing hmc is really the only way I can enjoy Shiv now after they nerfed him. But man is it fun and good.
I really don't fucking understand souls anymore.I can be perma farming with some slight brooling and I'm either behind or on par with the rest solely because they're fucking brooling.It's actual insanity that I can be at 9/1/1 yet I'm like 1-2k souls ahead of my 1/8/5 teammate that has been feeding since the game started because he got a big kill and assists.
>>502869207Also for early purples bullet resist shredder, and then usually fourth is an active.
>>502867012how many players?
INHOUSE UP218HB218HB218HB218HBNEED 5
>>502867420You're trying to summon a genie but you have to kill another genie to do it>but how do you kill a thing that's not summonedYou're just cutting off their foreskin or something, idk
>>5028697296!
>>502868568You want to build utility items around your 4 with your purples- reach, SoP, slow- then fight every time it's off cooldown. For oranges you want HVmag, fleetfoot, point blank and soul shredder so you can go fast and keep them in your ult for the whole duration. Greens grab enduring speed and eventually healbane, plus whatever else you want. Armor greens are good.
>>502869207thanks anon. general skill build?
>went from Oracle 1 to Oracle 1i am the ultimate honest player, pure raw skill and at my apex
yep another inhouse that does not fill up since the past two weekswhy even bother opting into deadlock waiting room simulator
switching to 6s in 10ish minutes
>>502870752
>>502870752you guys never wanted to do anything fun with dupe hero teams or mirror matches
>>502870752don't bully we only need 5 more people...that's past the halfway point...
we need some loli vindicta art
>>502870903I DO it’s not my fault that autismmaxxed spergs frequent the mongolian basket weaving forum and demand tournament style matches; it’s prob one or two loud ass niggas
>>502871035mesugaki Vindicta
why is the matchmaking nothing but stomps now
I actually think shiv is quite strong right now, its just people still play him like he can 1v6 when in reality he can only 1v3 right now
>>502871134kino
>>502871035we need some ivy scat art
>>502869809>NEED 5i was lied to, i'm leaving
>>502871404yah we only need 4 now
>>502871035we need some loli ivy art instead
>>502871363>>502871520seek christ
>>502871520ivy unironically looks like a ftm oc named stinky dinky or some shit
loli genderbent abrams
>>502871404nigger. now that we only needed 4 everybody left because of (You)
>>502871651>genderbending abrams and not making him a big titty tall blue ladywhat's the point
>>502871676i am NOT a nigger
>>502871520but her body is already child-like and her vagina is hairless
1FH336s normal lobby up lets get active
I had to leave for a bit tell me when the inhouse needs like 2 and I'll join back.>>502871947nevermind games dead
What's the point of Mirage's ult? He's a long range character that can stack damage like a motherfucker... at long range. And here they give him an ult that's useless fot escaping close range encounters due to the casting time, AND often ends in being teleported into a clusterfuck where every enemy sees you coming thanks to last nerf and gangrapes you immediately upon appearing.
>>502872123he is literally twisted fate
>>502872123skill issue
>>502871137because muh retention algorithms, which end up filtering out well-adjusted first and second world players instead of third world animals as a byproduct
>>502872123this is the average mirage main btw
>manage to get 8 nigs into the inhouse but can't get 6 for the normal lobbyJUST
>>5028719472 more capital G gamers required for the 6 stack
>>502872626NEED JUST ONE. I NEED A HERO TO STEP UP
>>502871840fucking NIGGER
>>502872367>mainNah, playing the same toon every time is boring.
erm new thread?
starting with 5 in 5 minutes better hurry up lil bro
>>502873073im only playing 1 then going into ranked
>>502873950post their names now.
BrosI'm the OCE predictions fagI'm climbing...
>>502872123>long range character that can stack damage like a motherfucker... at long rangeGet point blank, burst fireTeleport in > Tornado > Blow their fucking face off
>>502876812>>502876812>>502876812
>decide to try vindicta in sandbox because I'm playing against her in lane more and more>expect to be able to aim up and down while flying to move up and down like Ivy or Kelvin>NoAlso learning in the last couple of days that you can warp stone while flying as Ivy has been gamechanging
>>502875239doesn't count because they reshuffled everyone's rank
