Pillars of Eternity Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of classic role playing games such as:Arcanum, Avowed, Baldur's Gate, Cyberpunk Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Might & Magic, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Starfield, The Age of Decadence, The Elder Scrolls, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Witcher, Wizardry and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png >Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe https://monkposter.github.io/community.html>Previous: >>521392285>Thread Question:What is your favourite expansion/DLC from a CRPG game?
>>521494675MotB
Ydwin!
What games do you think Obsidian devs play?
>>521494675>What is your favourite expansion/DLC from a CRPG game?Throne of Bhaal
Whats a good DRPG to play? I've been thinking of playing the dark savant trilogy again but I dread replaying 6.
>>521494675>>521494706My name belongs to the gods and my hand to their service. I seek the company of shadows, that our labors may remain secret.
>thread questionAwakenings was kino and sadly the last bit of dragon age content we got.
Extremely butthurt OP
Camellia is best girl and the perfect hot wife
>>521495178Can you kill her for this
>>521495408Why would you even do that?
>staunton fucks up and lets demons take over drezen>everyone hates him and wants him dead>galfrey does the same thing>nobody cares
>>521494826I know Sawyer played BG3
>and then she pissed herselfReally Sawyer?
>>521495841I really want to bash that ugly mug in with a hammer
>>521495909yes.... YES
>>521495909Hag pissing herself is fine but you're out of luck if you want smoochable dollies
>>521495728Erm being cheating on?
>>521495909>no option to plap this hagWhy is Sawyer so gay?
>>521495909>SawyerShe was written by Chris Avellone.
>we will never see the deleted aloth, watcher, eder, and iselmyr foursome scene
>>521496382Stop being a faggot
>>521496029There is nothing wrong if your wife fucks someone else than you. especially if it's a ritual to protect the land from the demon influence. this is why i like Camellia because she is willing to sacrifice her body to protect the land.
The trials of Durance quest is not finishing, its the only thing stopping me from completing the gameAny tips? I have had the conversation about Magran trying to kill him
Why are Cambros like this?
>>521496985If I remember correctly it won’t finish until a certain reveal in the main story
>>521496670There’s literally nothing homosexual about that
>>521497221Been there done thatIf meeting Magran wasnt it I dont know what
>>521496670>female watching>female personality and male elf body>gay
>>521496382Aloth is a bottom but Iselmyr is a top and this both scares and arosues Eder
>>521497681>female watchingEven worse, nasty fujo
>>521497517What reveal do you think it was? I don’t want to spoil
I wanna smooch her.
im already getting fucking filtered on dos2, why does every enemy all have explosive aoe and overshields that i cant even break before they just refresh it, even the crocodiles have fucking magic and aoe, i do 0 fucking damage but for some reason every enemy can hit for like 15 with 3 attacks
It's over
>>521498541Those crocodiles also have exactly 0 magic armor and next to no phys armor compared to their hp
>>521498881Stop picking the good options
>>521498881Sissyfication
>>521498992But pixels will get angry at me...
>>521494826blacked, angry birds, reddit, movie games on their playstation
>>521498906so far ive only even had the option to fight crocodiles or the magisters in the underground prison, even the fucking crocodiles almost 2 shot me with there ranged magic but thats the only fucking thing ive managed to kill so far, just being in the starting area i already feel extremely underleveled like im not even supposed to be here yet
>>521497517Feels like a dumb suggestion, but have you tried talking to him? It would be funny but not inconceivable to get through the game without realizing you can also initiate conversationI'd also say even if all seem grey'd out, there are very few occasions where there are still options behind grey'd out dialog lines. I would go through and exhaust those just to make sure.
>>521494826Their own games
Problem?
>>521497983I found itI know I understood what reveal was right because I got dialogue from itThe issue was resting. I remembered the last vision being from rest so I spam rested and it worked after like 6-7 times
>>521496382Because watcher wasn't part of it. He only watched like a little cuck
>copperlanes, the first fires, ondra's gift, thustle wustle bustle, ugulukf gcavd, thashaw's susdo these retards not realize this is not how cities are layed out? is it so fucking hard to put 'docks,' or 'upper district'
>>521500020Yes.Please just post like MS Paint versions of your screenshots, I can't take Beamdogshittification.
The
I don't hate Jae
Is the writing in WOTR bad? I’m finding myself bored during it
>>521501041You post this image every thread and she looks nothing like that
WHEREISTHEFUCKINGROGUETRADERAND AVOWEDDLC?
>>521498881Ember loves you!
>>521501509Sorry anon, they're having a hard time setting up the robo dog.
>>521501509Canceled and who cares about Avowed
>>521502148Me
>>521500550I grew up playing vanilla and EE is objectively better. Deal and cope as you'd like.
>>521501091You mean the prose? It's not great
>>521501509They pivoted.
>>521502472Yeah I’m finding it quite amateurish which is making me skim read it fast. It’s not gripping me sadly
>>521501509Working on new sex cutscenes, but only for the robodog
>>521502646Governor Gyatt...
I regret picking the Trickster path. I thought I could be Lantern King 2.0 but instead I'm just a "lol so randum" retard.
>>521503090you won't regret it when your threat range is 11-20 with a x5 multiplier
>>521503383I think that and the persuasion to have enemies kill themselves are the least interesting Trickster abilities
>>521503817then what the fuck are you playing trickster for? big crits and free paralysis are kind of staples of the mythic
Kino....
>>521504426Me what Arue cheats on me again and asks me to forgive her
>>521504426You’re nearly there anon, will you finish it today?
>>521504214Some of the other spells and feats are more interesting to me, and I've never felt the need to be a powergaming munchkin. For instance I will never cast WEIRD because I think it's a boring spell.
>>521498183
>>521504214NTA but I was hoping to play a caster trickster, since it's a fey adjacent mythic and there's just nothing there. Complete letdown
>>521504610Unless act 4 is 15 hours long yeah. I have like 4-5 hours left
Gonna play dominating in Underrail. Any recommended builds?
>>521504854Yeah you’re close. Keep going anon
WHAT DO I NAME IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>521505726Lex Imperalis
>>521505726/crpgg/
>>521501091I thought WOTR writing was fine, POE is about the only CRPG where the writing style made me either skip it or fall asleep.
>>521505726Justice League
>>521505726Pillars of Eternity 3
>wael is just chilling in sun in shadows>no shrine, just a random blobDamn, I didn't know he was chill like that
>>521505726Alpha [insert your mythic path here]
I always name Seelah's horse "Nag" because of Django
>>521505726Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
>>521506490He sneaky and based. Always watching
>>521506608>Wrath of the RighteousWatch it. That's an Angel trademark.
Ok i tried my best at rping as an azata but the name looks kind of ridiculous on the world map
>>521507141Tranny name, as befits shitzata
farscape crpg whenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9WsdwKyDc
>>521507141This is why you just name bases The Mothership
>>521507141
>>521507303still never watched this
>>521507141I didn't know you could type that much, good job
BG1 rogue sister or wizard sister?
>>521507420best sci fi show ever
>>521507495It depends on what you need. I never dualed her.
>>521507586big claim
>still no RT DLC release date
>>521507660Couldn't get past 5 episodes of this shit. Adama Sr was the only one i didn't want to murder with my bare hands. Some worthless drama
>>521507203>Tranny name, as befits shitzataExactly i said i was rping as an azata
>>521507807Next week, trust the plan, bro
>>521507660sell me on this
Okay, I think this is it
>>521508056good luck anon
>>521507586>>521507660I know you mean to say Stargate, but it's never getting an Owlcat RPG with X-Com basebuilding. Or a good game in general.
>>521507994sexy human killing robots have feelings too chud>>521508123I miss Stargate so much. Was such fun minus the replicators, hated that shit Even the spinoffs were great and it was a shame that Universe was axed just as it got interesting.
>>521508123stargate is a classic too but it kinda goes to shit by the time the ori roll around. Ironically enough when the two main actors from farscape get major roles
really browsing with fruity homos whispering 'good luck anon' to retards reload forcing through baby mode games like they just said they're fighting cancer
what was watcher's reason for investigating the hollowborn crisis in the first place? I can't remember.
>>521509181He just happened to be there and became a watcher so he decided to investigate
>>521509181More so seeking to understand their awakening but it just ended up being tied into the hollowborn crisis
>>521509181he has some kind of magic aids with no actual in-game negative consequences
>>521509379>>521509390>>521509458oh, right. the beginning sections of PoE1 were kinda ass. huh? I'm glad I forced through them.
>>521509379>>521509458>heits she
>More so seeking to understand their awakening but it just ended up being tied into the hollowborn crisis
>>521509534everything is kinda ass, the gameplay is what keeps you going
>>521509181he was crossing the border when redrick ambushed him along with some hollowborn cloaks thinking him among their ranks. think ethos showed up and shouted his troops to death with his voice, along with telling him he was watcher-born
>>521509130imagine acting this way while playing with virtual dollies
>>521509776nah pillars was great on all fronts save the godforsaken intro
>>521507631I don't really dig the available mage options, but on the other hand, the only rogue I met this far was Montaron. Though choices.
>>521510247this but also the intro was completely fineit didn't knock me over but I wouldn't call it "godforsaken" at all.
In POE what's the lowest amount of CON I can get away with on a wizard?
>>521510551well, it may be a me issue, but it honestly took me like 4 tries to finally get into the game.
predictions on Safana surviving?
>>521510746The game isn't the most newb friendly. You try and make a character and look at the description for your race and you're bombarded with an essay on religious wars and cultural shit and you have no context. Easy to get put off
Are there any games that are more focused on like kingdom/crusade management in pathfinder? The closest i found was suzerain but its more of a visual novel
>>521510935About to get chunked
>>521510935she can dodge it
>>521510247nah it's boring as fuck with 0 character, nothing in there is worth reading
>>521510935>>521511041>>521511101Well that answers that. Turned out to be a bunch of fireballs, and I guess when she went down then it targetted my group in the doorway.
>>521510526Nevermind. I read up on how dual classing works and have henceforth decided that it is fucking gay and the guy who came up with it should be given 30 lashes in town square.
>>521501509Both Cancelled.
God i hate poe 1 prose. it's paragraph after paragraph of purple prose.
>>521511376Nestled atop the cliffs...
hmmm when you think about how they gave people from begstarter a copy of poe and recorded it as sales, poe1 and poe2 didnt make a profit
>>521511135You do understand the difference between 'subjective' and 'objective' right? Like what you're talking about isn't an objective quality, and your subjective feelings about it aren't even some kind of huge majority. Lots of people enjoy the Pillars setting, lore, characters, and stories.For me, I guess since I read a lot, I know what to expect from CRPGs, and it's like "books I enjoy" > CRPG1 = CRPG2 = ... Not a huge distinction between any of them, really. Rarely offensively bad enough writing for me to notice, I think only Underrail made me stop due to its writing.
>>521511720It's so deep anon, you wouldn't get it. I wish someone would post the awful prose with a female npc in the city.
>>521511934bla bla bla empty words shut the fuck up
>>521512101how the fuck are you in the crpg general.
Fuck off faggot no one likes this spam
bg: 'sleep lightly task master..'poe: you see a slightly overweight man with an uneven beard, his mouth agape frollicking and doo daddling in his notebook. 'beaderka keep you leg walkers! koko sit! sorry for my nine tailed fox pet, she is restless from the long journey from californium's bay of fent, apart of the comuka commune. say, have you see any purple dragons?'
do you bet on black or red?
kinda crazy dao bro keeping me updated on the lv5 ogrhen impasse is slightly above the level of poe verbal pollution
>>521512590that sounds more interesting than actual poe
>>521511852Luckily I have infinite casts of the Saving and Loading cantrips. >got my Fighter levels backlet's fuckin goooooooloading up on Shocking Grasp and True Strike and all the other muscle wizard shit I've been scribing into my spellbookAlso I don't remember at all putting everything into short sword but ok.
>>521512774I bet elf twink's ass
>>521513123Zev is not a twink
>>521504426>>521504854I could have saved her... I could have protected her smile...
Thaos was no chumpBut he was no match for concelhauts crushing doom despite his 40+ resistance to proneIt took me a few restarts though, I didnt want to lose anyone in the final fight, but it proved impossible with cleansing flame dealing 300 in 8 second and melting 100s of hp before you can cast withdraw or cleansing exhortation and spreading to bootPallengina got stuck in some weird limbo of not being revivable while being at 0 hp because of withdraw Cc is impossible, at least on upscaled difficulty, just target his reflex Makes sense he is a priest Weal and woe is sleeper op too
>>521513596concelboy always deliversbest poe character hands down
Gyronna - hag of gyronna witch, but i am a male. How do I RP that?
does this seem about right, my first attempt at building a wizard sucked.
*Forgives Hitler at the end of his life*We all deserve a second chance
>>521514165shit pereither go might or int not both
>>521514165anon, why didn't you use the pale elf portrait? anyway dump resolve and put it into perception
>>521514165chill fog and slicken are good eldritch aim too
BALDUR'S GATE DLC ANNOUNCED:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2488970/Baldurs_Gate_Reflections_Of_Myth__Valor/
idc bg sucks fat dicks
>>521514165Why do you look green
goyim where is your perception??? where is the 20 might? why are you so obessed with int
>>521513596nice work anon, looking forward to your Deadfire playthrough
why do poe fans suck so bad at it?
>>521514410So I take it beamdog isn't doing very well if they're doing stuff like this.
>>521514386so more like this?
>>521514165I wouldn't advise dumping resolve, munchkins do say this though. It's the kind of thing someone who plays exactly one way over and over would say. I would drop a little of both Might and Int to get more Per. If you're not landing anything, it doesn't matter how strong it is (might) or how big of a radius (int). Perception is pretty important. If you want to be more damage dealing, I'd even say something like 16 might, 14 Int. For more CC, 16 int, 14 might. Something like that. But you really want your perception higher than 10. Also a 6 con will fuck you, you'll be dropping every battle and failing every fort single save.
>>521514830the most outspoken poe fans are the same throng of """"""""writing"""""""" enjoyers who play crapsco craplysium and clap their hands like trained seals whenever they see a wall of text
>>521515021wtf are you doing stop just take 10 dex and int. you need max might and perception so you can kill people with fan of flames, not use your shitty magic missiles doing archer left click dmg
>>521515021Hilariously bad idea for a new player but munchkin retards will think this is fine. You will have a bad time imo. I wouldn't drop con or res below 10 and even that I think will feel bad.
>>521514410>portrait DLC
>>521514410damn these look like ass
An evil voice whispers in my earI am up on a hill in the desert and the figure offers me everythingAll the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to me, “All these things I will be given to you if you renounce your ways, if you swear to lead the world in blind ignorance When you have true power within your grasp it is hard to refuseWhat will I say? Will I sacrifice everything for a leash from another master? So I can sit by their throne and eat their scraps while the rest starve?
>>521515021Change your background to deadfire archipelago and this is a perfect mage build.
>>521515021yesif you read any post with "munchkin" in it feel free to ignore it, they have no idea how numbers work
I finished disco elysium recently. it was pretty good.
>>521515021you're gonna miss out on Resolve dialogue options.
>>521514410Lmao it took them 2 years to do it?
Avowed was really funa nd got me interested into the world and lore. Anything I need to know going into PoE? Noobtraps with stats or such, will go spellcaster most likely.
>>521515021kekenjoy being crit I guess
>>521515791Which political ideology did you adhere to the most?
>>521515810
>this is the perfect mage build*drools*>poe2 made money, sawyer said so
I chose the option that makes nobody displeases everyone and helps no-one And that's the end for Raima
>>521516151that's fucked up, manalso I'm pretty sure it pleases Wael
>>521515872wizards need high might for their spells to hit harder, especially if playing a nuke wizard. Same with dex as it makes you cast spells faster. Int is needed too. Also avoid any NPC in gold text.>>521516151oh no.... if you wanted to truly do the true neutral option it would've been berath
>>521516330OK so that's pretty similar then. I never put any points in Might but got some form passives and equips wich did add straight damage and Dex was needed to not miss from further away.
>>521516151did you pledge to any of the gods?
>>521515989ultraliberal superstar art-cop
>>521516151I chose that too because I thought it would be funny to piss off all the gods
Also why is the wannabe god like this?
CON is always a dump stats in crpgs, just don't get hit
if I could put all stats into luck and luck only then I'd do it.
>tfw got to the library too late in wotr and the allies died in the firereeeeeeeeee
Which way Bhaalspawn man?
>>521517349>bugsidianAlso looks like a very Wael thing to happen
>>521517920Obviously 3
>>521516646NopeI went with Wael because I had to make choice. And it felt like the most appropriate I didn’t want to do their bidding because I didn’t know what my choices would lead to. So I went with an option that embraced that absurdity, that embraced the fact that nobody will know what happened. The souls can’t be returned. As Hylea said they are unready for the next step before life. But how can how return life to dead bodies? However, even if that is the case, they don’t deserve to be destroyed or fed to others either. They deserve the lives they were deprived of. So I give them back, throughout all of time and space, so they may fall outside the clutches and knowledge of the gods, even it they wished to gather them up again. I don’t want to be beholden to anyone’s expectations anyway, and Wael’s option seems the most like a suggestion
Are there any updates on the new mass effect?
>>521518060Thanks.An interesting thing regarding the dialogue, where in the more recent games I can think of, the helpful and nice lines will generally be on the top, likely due to popularity, but in BG the top slots are often occupied by telling people to go fuck themselves. Could it be the blood of Bhaal speaking?
>skips over your shitty kickstarter credits at 32x speed>they still take a minuteY-ikes Obsidian
>>521518648Solid reasoning. If you pledged to the gods and broke the promise, you get some side effects on your Deadfire save import. Hylea sent birds to shit all over me because I broke my pledge
>>521518828
>>521518986Who stops to watch credits anyway?
>>521519103I do for older games.
>>521519103I've watched a quite a few credits rolls in my time as a video game enjoyer. It's a nice moment to ponder the time you had with the game.
It honesty baffles me that I sided with the Doemaels in my playthrough considering that I was a nice guy™ otherwise. I still don't get my reasoningWe'll chalk it up to defiance bay deserving it's fate, ungrateful bastards
>>521519103I do if there’s interesting visuals or a good song.Like I watch Silent Hill 2’s credits every time I replay the game.
>>521496029>cheatingCam isn't fucking those guys she's killing and eating them Actually now that I think about it both Arue and Windog have eaten people too what's up with the cannibals in this game
We'll, thank you for watching? reading? along Hope you enjoyed, thank you for your answersI'll do deadfire next but not right now, I am busy and I need a break anyway
>>521519653Does she eat their dicks and balls too?
>>521513246Fine, I bet the elf non-twink's ass
>>521519710it was fun seeing you get through this. did you kill the Alpine Dragon? I missed that part if you did.
>>521519710what endings did you get?
Should I try to make a Ecclesitheurge cleric melee
>>521520450For what purpose?
>>521519875Yes, rather "easily".3 days ago, maybe 2. It was hard, but I just put my party in the top right corner to avoid the blind so I could buff, wait out the fear, and kill himEder engaged and I just used standard stuff to end him. The entire fight is just positioning. Your spells largely play themselves. Just fish for petrification and stack focus for disintegrate + and use cleansing flame. Petrifaction also keep the adds under control, you have time to buff before the stunning spectres but care when they spawn>>521519919Uhh Weals ending, sided with the Doemaels, and the Glanfaethen were spared, Raedric was killed twice and no allegiance to the gods. Thaos had his slate wiped clean and was given a new chance. Abydon was reforged and tempered without his memory. For companions Hiravius becomes a wandering druid of wael, Eder becomes a mayor, Aloth is dismaneteling the leaden key, Sagani learns the lesson of family, Maneha keeps her memory, the Devil of Caroc dies by the ocean feeling something for the first time in her new body, Durance becomes a hobo, Zahua starts a new tribe, Grieving mother idaf I didnt pay attention, Pallegina becomes a paladin of the kind way farer after she changes the trade plan to avoid war, and Kana becomes a decent scholarI also brought the baby along, it's cool that I could, the tribe is clearly too callous about children, it needs a better home.
>>521513258I kind of doubt that. She wasn't going to stop making herself a target and gods will do shit like throw the moon at you to shut you up. At best she could have been reborn in a more modern time when they exhausted most of their doomsday device supply from covering up shit so much
why do we not like shifter
>>521520549Because I hate crossbows
>>521520450>no armor>melee>WIS casterthe Monk dip beckons
if your character can live forever, what's keeping them from earning more than 20 levels
>>521521471lazy
>>521521471devs
>>521521471It's a game and games need rules and restrictions
>>521520902If you want a more accurate breakdown it was something like this in parallellAloth: deleterious alacrity of motion -> merciless gaze -> accuracy -> tayns chaotic orb -> gaze of adragan on everyone else -> killing bolt Durance: crown of the faithful for bonus int and perception to everyone -> champions boon for might to Aloth -> minor avatar -> cleansing flame -> general spells. I might have done a prayer against restraint in therePallegina was there to cleanse the stuns and draw aggro as well as heal to get everything I needed off worst case scenario. You can give her the sword of endless paths or something similar for accuracy to your team when she focuses an enemyCipher: wait for crown -> wild leech -> stack focus on adds -> disintegrate -> time parasite -> borrowed instinct -> amplified waveIf you take lore you can weave in a scroll of accuracy at the start, I think they stackEder tanks and summons in a beetle to draw 1 dragon attackManeha: potion of power as you wait for crown -> rage -> run over and kill mobsYou should be able to do this at level 12 just fine, but I was level 14 since I didn't do it until white marsh part 2. Being higher level helps of course, but level 8 spells are not necessary
>>521520902>I also brought the baby alongBased baby snatcher. It's too bad they don't really do anything interesting with her in PoE 2.
Veterans recovery or blast?
>>521521471Neuroplasticity stops after getting 20 levels.
>>521523573If you are that guy who just started playing his wizard....
>game just treats you as a regular golden dragon if you go corrupt>nobody seems to care you have literal evil glowing eyes and spooky dragon form and are kind of an asshole despite being a gold dragonNice "rework" owlkek.
>>521524520Never understood why they stretched themselves so thin with all these half assed pathsGame would be better if there were only 3 and maybe added 1 or 2 more as DLC
>>521524796A lot of them were funding milestones form the kickstarter weren’t they? They just kept adding shit to get more money in its last few days.
>>521520902What about Aloth and Iselmyr?
>>521523573Neither, wtf. Well blast is ok. Definitely not Veterans recovery if you are the low con/low res wizard from above. You have no chance if you're getting hit, Veteran's Recovery or no.
>>521494801literally fem Percy
>>521525824I don't know who this is
>>521525981if you've never watched Critical Role you don't belong in crpgg
>>521526092I implore you to kill yourself
>>521526092I don't watch games, I play them
>>521526175name 10 games you've played
I play the role of someone who watches Critical Role
>>521526092>if you don't watch let's plays you are not a gamer
>>521526092
I am now remembering the critical role dlc pack for deadfire
>>521526320>you have to be autistic gamer with zero interest in adjacent mediaSo you only listen to game music, never watch fantasy shows, never read books since they're not games, and can't hold a conversation about anything that's not a game for more than 10 seconds, got it
>>521526269DnD (various)Warhammer 40k RPG (Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Black Crusade)DeadlandsSavage WorldsGURPSWorld of Darkness (only "new". No idea what edition that was.)Mutants and MastermindsOne or two Star Wars ones that I can't be bothered to rememberCountless homebrew shitA lot of obscure shit I did once that I can't remember
>>521526092Cringe
>if you've never watched Critical Role you don't belong in crpgg
>>521526978>Deadlands
when's the critical role crpg
what's this guy's problem
>>521527942It's one of owlcats secret projects.
>>521527942https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillars_of_Eternity_II:_Deadfire
>>521527942Awful
>>521527937Playing a mad scientist and having to draw a deck of cards to get a good poker hand to make an invention was pretty cool
>>521526092I remember watching 1 episodes and got 3 minutes into video before I cringed and had to close, got fake gamer vibe desuall this was almost 9 years ago
>start act 3 feeling strong after drezen siege>go to world map>get attacked by four abyssal huntresses and a ash giant and a meatball demonWhat the fuck is this encounter design? I only won because mounts are overpowered and the griffon pet in particular can get ridiculous numbers with a charge attack. Poor Ember didn't stand a chance though since they basically spawned on top of her.
>dnd content creators
>>521529002You're deep in what was just recently their territory, what doesn't make sense here?
>>521529127I don't actually watch that shit, but if you're going to spend your time watching someone else play DnD it may as well be voice actors.It's not like it's on the level of people who give bad DM advice and rush to put out some video showing parts of the newest books or whatever
Is Alpha Protocol a crpg?
>>521528947>fake gamerThey're voice actors who play D&D, or at least pretend to. It's not exactly an obscure hobby that only veteran l33t g4m3rs would be equipped to handle.
i roll to rapewhat's the dc
>>521528891Yeah, I really enjoyed how the game mechanics complimented the setting desu. Can't think of any other game to attempt that. What they did with savage world deadlands is a travesty. To this day I refuse to play Shitfest World
>>521529748DC 50 to get your tiny dick up first.
Critical Role Campaign 2 had high levels of kino
>>521530004I only really played savage worlds because it was such a meme on /tg/ for a while with someone constantly saying how much better it was than DnD or whatever.The second that tiny fucking book arrived I knew I was duped, but we still used it a bit (overall I'd say it was "fine"). Never for the deadlands setting though. Losing the cards is a travesty
>>521527942thats literally bg3
Glad to see there is such an overlap with Critical Role and CRPG fans. To all of you eagerly awaiting a new game, I only have this to say:How do you want to do this? ;)- S
>>521530307Go back to Shitter
>>521532436Steve?
>>521532436>SSkylar??
We have a thread it's called /poe2g/ kill this shit
Has anyone used forbidden first much in deadfire? I'm kind of curious how it works on a brawler
>>521526679No I just don't watch people playing games
>>521528947This is the only CR clip I'd show to someone who's unfamiliar with the showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt9y5ae9ha8
Okay, I thought about the story sometime and I have some questionsWhy do the delegans call us an ancient soul, and why do we know the words engwithian people when we speak to the Anamenfath, if we are not engwithian ourselves, as Thaos seems so suggest?And why is Woedica so unwilling to talk to us until the literal end when we were her inquisitor, and a pretty decent one at that?Why does Skaen encourage us to follow her? I get that he is the slave and all, but I thought he was about uprising, not us joining the "elite" and following orders so to speak?¨And most importantly, why make "going insane" from your gift your driving motivation when the delegans explain that our soul is drawn to Thaos whether we are aware of it or not? It's a way better point, especially considering that the insanity just goes away after we win anyway. It feels half-baked, like they needed an easy hook instead of a good one. Something which they failed at btw, great premise for a game, but it does not grab the average player right away to put it mildly
>>521534556People getting the giggles? Why that clip? It's not that funny, just one of those moments where friends can't keep it together. I'm not sure what I'd show, there's such a massive amount of total hours it's hard to decide. I think the whole battle on the docks where they end up accidentally stealing a ship is good but less good if you don't know any of the characters or surrounding context. It's interesting that Dimension20 isn't more popular, I suppose because it's gated behind a dropout subscription. But the episodes are shorter, there's way more figures and sets, and there's a slightly more scripted feel to it so it's a bit more streamlined.
I put a bunch of lettuce in my bed and let my rabbits walk all over me while I play roles on the computer
The game is looking great so farI did not expect that opening. It was certainly a way to start. I mean, I assumed it could move in the future, I just didn't expect what would happen when it didStill, the games premise of souls works well for a sequel like this doesn't it.
>>521529002Yeah early random encounters can get pretty BS since I don't think their strength takes into account your party's level for the most part.
mmmh today I will not watch some random people getting paid to play pretend in some crappy tabletop game
u pause your role critical to make another poe post bro?
>>521532436Starrok?
>>521538074>Still, the games premise of souls works well for a sequel like this doesn't it.Yeah but I always found it hokey, and was satisfied to learn some time ago that Sawyer didn't originally want the Watcher to have anything to do with this game. But, I also do enjoy importing decisions even if most of them make almost no impact, so that's a plus I suppose. The souls stuff does work anyhow, a nice convenient way to "continue" as that character but also start from level 1. Wonder what class you'll be going with
>look over the imitated savefile options before importing my own>the worst option has giving the souls to waelUhmmmm, sisters? Do I do a faux pas here?
>>521532436Swen?
The narrator is great
shame poe doesn't really have any memorable ost outside the shanties in 2
>>521538661>Wonder what class you'll be going withI am going to be boring and do a run with a death godlike cipher again, just to finish his story. I would like to play a priest, but I feel it would be best to play the same class to compare the games systems better. Otherwise a priest, chanter, or wizard would be cool
>>521540904You could multiclass
>failed to overcome spell resistance>failed to overcome spell resistance >failed to overcome spell resistance >failed to overcome spell resistance How the FUCK are you supposed to play as a caster in WOTR?
>>521540904cipher is the one class that is basically unchanged because of how its resources are generated
>>521532436Strelok?
>>521541129By taking Spell Penetration, and even Greater Spell Penetration>why the FUCK wouldn't every caster just take thatNot every caster needs it
>>521541129You could pump spell penetration and caster level to pierce resistance but the actual honest answer is you use the busted Mythic path spells that ignore spell resistance
>do you want your character to pose like a sassy gay pirate all gameNo?
For me, it’s Gwenda the Meanie.
>>521541534Can you respec your class/multiclass mid-game?I could also do I cheeky restart if it comes to thatI actually have to leave for my trip now, but it would be nice to know before I leave. I could think about the build while I am gone
>>521543116no, respec only lets you reassign levelups
>>521538074>Still, the games premise of souls works well for a sequel like this doesn't it.I take that back, you literally just passed out. They should not allow you to respec or change your background at all to be hardcore, this is a direct sequel ffs
>>521544001It's because your background and your class don't impact poe1's ending slides in any way
For me it's Cam
>>521544491Cammy in Dishonered would work well
Ok, my 4th attempt to finish bg3. This time for sure. Hey, bg3tards, are there any good mods to use?
>>521544902>>>/vg/bgg/
>>521544902more monsters mod is always nice, even if you overlevel a bit
So is the Arcanist fun? From what I can tell shouldn't I just go Exploiter Wizard if I want the Arcanist's gimmick
>>521545207Yeah, I ain't taking a dip in that cesspool
>>521544902The new patch is coming this month, you might want to wait.
Cindy the SKULL owes me sex
>>521550636>this monthIn 3 days to be precise
>>521551542She cute
I don't understand this X owes me sex meme
>>521553082I don't know how I could make it any more clear
>all the good crpgs are from EUreally makes you think
>>521553082>girls say "women don't owe men sex">gamers say "X waifu OWES me sex"its not that hard
>>521553938Fallout was made in america?
>>521553938Vampire the mascurade was made in america?
>>521554606>>521554782Frogposters are retarded
>>521553938Baldur's Gate was made in america?
>>521553938Arcanum was made in america?
>>521553938Every single Obsidian game was made in america?
>>521555037Canada, I believe
>>521504854>Half-burned elf with fedora-tippingIs Ember multiversal?
>>521556690Never really thought about that. Almost makes me wonder if there was a reference there, but I doubt it
>>521504758>>521505726The year is 2025. The effects of baneposting continue to reverberate
>>521542939You can change those whenever you want
I know what you mean, G0-T0
>>521556152Bioware was founded in Alberta, yes. Wizardry 8 was also made by leaves.
>>521553938Betrayal in Antara was made in America?
>>521494675>What is your favourite expansion/DLC from a CRPG game?the enhanced release of dragonfall
>>521495745I imagine the queen's PR team spins it better
WH fantasy CRPG soon right?
>>521498881>sperm literally leaving the egg
>>521562289"I've seen enough"
>>521505726butt town
>>521507495I always keep her as rogue in BG1, theres normally a mage or two around for me to pick up anyway and its not like they reach the heights of BG2 yet
https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/nicky-katt-the-voice-of-atton-rand-in-knights-of-the-old-republic-2-has-died-aged-54/wtf... atton...
WotR is so fucking random. Yeah fuck it I'm just solo in hell now. Gonna go be a gladiator for a bit. I love it, I can never guess how any day is going to go
>>521564443That is so not pure pazzak
This is going to be close, and we'll have to immediately head back to Drezen, nobody alive who can raise dead. Cam and the raptor got dissolved in the rift of ruin, Ember immediately down from Destruction. I killed the one guy who keeps fucking everything with his spells, rift of ruin, ice strike, fucking Destruction... then he just .... reappeared? Ulbrig's got him grappled so that helps at least, though I don't think it's canceled any of his spells so far. The other guy has just been slowly worn down by Domain of the Hungry Flesh (though so have a few companions) and wasting his time on my summoned undead and shadow demon. I did manage to get a greater dispel on him which brought him down to like 50 AC lol.Woljif died already, but came back (with spells? is that normal, I don't recall that being how things work but that's really interesting if so) and rather pointlessly cast Transformation, he'll try to land some shots with a crossbow (Crossbow of Judgment, can only hit on 20 but also auto succeeds the crit)We can still win it but it's not looking good. Vs undead is still very much my weak spot.
>>521565661Well, we did it. Some really good gear, but an even better fight! Now back to Drezen to heal up and modify equipment. Unfortunately there is I think just a tiny bit more to do in these woods so we'll be returning again at some point, though I don't like these areas and am eager to leave them behind. I'm also disappointed that I messed up Ulbrig's romance because 1) I've never seen it and 2) I don't bring him along so wouldn't miss him on a later thing that I spoiled myself about with lichI'm romancing Wenduag which I've already seen when I played demon, so it won't be too bad when the lich stuff comes up. There is maybe becoming a 40-level megacaster Legend, you keep your merged lich spells right?
>>521517706>he doesn't rush everything minus the thieflings and succubus in one sleep
>>521541129Grease wins again.
>>521541129don't be a jack of all trades
Act 4 is when you can start being a Lantern King tier troll as a Trickster, much better than the pervious act where you for some reason make some drunkard a king.
>>521541129You spend every feat on point blank, precise shot, spell pen, ebin spell pen, maybe be an elf/hafu, then can you maybe concentrate on elemental/specialist DC or metamagic feats.DON'T YOU LOVE FEAT TAXES?
Man I don't even know what an "azata" is but it sounds gayer than angel
>>521568760This is a Fagzata
>>521568760azata is angel but for chaotic good and is also hippie desna flower shit
>>521568878Why is he barefoot?>>521568881I thought Gold Dragon was the hippie path
>>521541129Be a Lich or Angel. Third option is be a Magic Deceiver and nuke enemies with your custom bullshit spells but that still requires some work. If you want to be a regular caster then you better start stacking Spell Penetration, DC, etc with the right gear and feats. Being a caster in Kingmaker was so much easier. Sure you don't have abundant casting but you can also just chuck a big evocation spell into a group of enemies and kill most if not all of them without having to worry about overcoming billion things.
>>521567113Stocked up on a few Raise Dead scrolls also, and some diamonds, and diamond dust. That was an extremely costly battle but we're ready to go still. Next I might finally take Graybor (Dark Lurker Rogue / Assassin) out and do the dragon stuff.
>>521568881angel is any good, even cgazata's lawfag mirror is archon but owlkek wanted to play up the angel vs demon idea for marketing
>>521570884>Archons
>>521568881Shelyn is the hippie goddess. I don't know how the goddess that sperged out and went to war because someone fucked with her priest gets the hippie reputation.
>>521570884Angel is LG + one step away + TN.Dragon is the any good + TN one.
How do I justify my nerd Nethys wizard becoming an Angel over a Lich
>>521572087he has morals
>>521571619Anon's talking about the lore. Angels are supposed to represent every alignment in all the good planes. Archons are the lawful good celestials from heaven.
>>521572273Naruhodo
>>521572169Do any of the other good paths make sense for a wizard? Angel doesn't seem to involve a lot of mysticism
How many threats do I have to send to Sawyer to get gestalting in pillars 3?
>>521572648gold dragon, though thats not really until the very endmechanically azata isnt bad for a caster, but the hippy stuff can be hard to rationalise for a lot of characterstrickster and aeon are both contenders
>>521574189It's not like aeon or trickster are evil by any stretch anyway. Completely normal spell is pretty great too
>>521574874I havent played trickster but aeon has some pretty neat story events as well
>>521570884To be fair, how different would an archon path really be from Angel? Also they're furries (or at least the most recognizable type is)
>>521536807>Why do the delegans call us an ancient soul, and why do we know the words engwithian people when we speak to the Anamenfath, if we are not engwithian ourselves, as Thaos seems so suggest?The reincarnation cycle naturally degrades souls after a while. Some souls are more resilient to this, which is what you are. You’re not Engwithan, your last life was, but you learn the language from the cipher woman in the heritage hill zombie mission in defiance bay. >And why is Woedica so unwilling to talk to us until the literal end when we were her inquisitor, and a pretty decent one at that?You’re her enemy now going against her agents trying to stop their plans. You are not your last life. Reincarnation is soul recycling, you are not the same as your past lives. >Why does Skaen encourage us to follow her? I get that he is the slave and all, but I thought he was about uprising, not us joining the "elite" and following orders so to speak?Skaen is interesting. Two theories. 1) he represents overthrowing the rulers and supports those trying to do that. Wordica was the former ruler of the gods and was overthrown by the rest. He could he helping her overthrow the current power hierarchy. 2) my theory is that Skaen is a honeypot god designed to make sure uprisings fail by being so extreme that the status quo stays the same. Why would the Engwithans create a god that would overthrow and destroy their hard work creating an empire through the god worship? He works with Woedica as a way to enforce Engwithan hegemony. >why make "going insane" from your gift your driving motivation when the delegans explain that our soul is drawn to Thaos whether we are aware of it or not? Most people who awaken go insane like Maerwald at Cad Nua. It’s not natural to remember past lives. Only strong souls that are resilient to natural decay in reincarnation can resist it.
>>521571565desna is the one that said "watch me redeem a succubus"
>>521550101Arcanist is mostly mediocre unless you go brown fur and become a turbo buff slut yeah. The massive feat tax isn't worth the lackluster exploit selection
I don't remember how skills in deadfire worked out. Wasn't it basically that there's no reason to get any of them higher than 10 or 12 since the bonus from items and your allies will basically boost it to whatever you could possibly need at that point?
Is there any potion, spell or way to increase your fire resistance in Poe1? getting rekt by the dragon repeatedly isn't fun
>>521578094For some such as Lore.Survival had a cool "wrap-around" mechanic that made arbitrary amount of points in Survival useful
>>521578094>>521578776Oh you said Deadfire, that info might be wrong, I also don't remember skills in Deadfire.
>>521578094I remember your companions could only contribute so much so you don't want to go all in on one
took me a couple tries but its done. This fight is hard af on potd.I've never actually done white march part 2 so I'm looking forward to seeing how that goes.
>>521575682they have a wide variety of appearances and can pull the "normal" look if they wantelysium's unique celestial getting involved but not heaven's with the latter being mysteriously absent in a conflict against its polar opposite feels odd with even a passing knowledge of the fluffi don't think nirvana or agathions are even mentioned
>>521578569I think you want to boost your deflection which will make ranged attacks more resistant. The wizard double image spell or whatever it’s called should help with that. Same with shields.
>>521578776At a glance the equation is the highest and then half of the second highest, but maybe I'm overlooking something. Maybe there's times you can't get help too, idk>>521578569Potion of flame shield, but I haven't played nearly recent enough to remember how common they are. Otherwise you could just revise your choices of armor for the fight
>>521579197WM2 is kino
>>521579197that's a fun group of companions
Did I do your personal quest? You owe me sex.
>>521579725Perfectly reasonable. I wouldn't play therapist for some of these people for less
>>521579292>>521579340thanks. just gonna create enough mirro image potion for Eder and so i can tank the fire damage
>>521579421Yeah I'm pretty happy with this party. I usually go for the basic bitch group of eder, aloth etc so its nice to mix it up.I miss pallegina though, stacking two paladin auras at once was nice.
>>521579725My personal quest was actually a trap and the twist is I cut your penis off
>>521580798Eder is a bro, but if you really want to take advantage of the game being rtwd dedicated tanking isn't always the way to go anyway. Particularly in the more open areas where you can't lock in shit in a doorway or whateverAs for Aloth there's honestly not much a wizard can do that a druid can't
>>521581051Wizards are better at direct damage than priests. I keep Aloth as a magical nuke and use priests for buffing/debuffing/late game AOEs
>>521579725basedo
Whats a good Mythic for a Order of the Paw Cavalier?Angel seems decent for anyone, even if it does especially synergiseAzata for life bonding and the team work feats on everyoneTrickster for... crits I guess?Aeon is out because I've done it alreadyDemon is a maybe, never really dug into itLich is a no, saving that for another day
>>521582282Demon is the best for charge builds but I'd recommend going gendarme instead.
Just sacrificed a little girl by letting a ghoul eat her out, what do i think of it
>>521582282Demon if you want to charge shit. pick aspect of schir and kalvakus and destroy everything in one charge. alternatvely you can also go Legend. with the boots of stempede which gives extra damage with athletics you can get something like +40 damage which combined with spirited charge lets you do 300 charge damage
>>521582282Order of the paw is a class for halflings riding dogs right? Tricksters are supposed to be the clever heroes that have stories of making demons look like retards or whatever, so it plays into that. Azata is all about "power of friendship" bullshit, which also plays into that.Anything else would be a matter of subverting the concept for better or worse
>this machine will grant you immense power>+1 and +5 max enduranceWow, i certainly feel powerful now by onsuming hundreds of souls and getting a +1 to my might. meanwhile in Wrath>pay thirty thousand for this bootleg surgery which makes you a half-demon>+2 to attack, damage, to spell save dc and +2 natural armor with one downside.
>>521520450But why?
>>521583510>>521583989thanks ladslegend would be the ideal but by the time you get to do that it feels like the game is nearly over
Castercels on suicide watch.
>>521586704Durance is based
I am ashamed of all of you, as cultists and as individuals.
>>521586704he says that in the same game where mages can have bazillions of deflection thanks to mirror image etc
>>521587198They haven't invented prebuffing yet. The mages get shot before they have the chance.
>>521587198Or the sequel where a rogue can pick up a very small amount of magic to do the same thing
>>521587804That trickster rogue is so dope, gets Wall of many colors too.
>>521587198Isn't it mentioned later in the game mages had to rework magic combat from the ground up because of guns. Gun CHADS mogged mage sissies so hard they had to change the way they fight on a fundamental level to cope.
Why do succubi always go for Lann? Is he just that powerful?
>>521587198that deflection won't do shit for dicks against 30 gunners shooting all at you simultaneously
>>521588038Now this is some good old martialoid hypercope
How many proficiency points do I get in BG overall? I put 2 into shields and 3 into axes but now I realise I want to dual wield a bastard sword and a flail which would technically require 12 more points.
Martials are so npc tier thar both wotr and poe force some amount of magic spells onto you out of embarrassment
>>5215882306, maybe 7. Don't invest into shield style.For two weapon fighting, skip the third dot.
>>521587993I'm doing a soulblade/trickster playthrough right now and it's beautiful. Barely had to invest in resolve/con or might to be a high damage frontliner with great debuffs/CC because of all the damage bonuses and defensive buffs.
>Nooo, only I can use magic items, Martialchads are stealing our kills! cry about it nerd
>itemsrofl
>>521588549BG1 that is.
>>521589154I meant throughout the series, but thanks anyway.
>>521589189BG 2 you'll only get to ten, ToB some more but ToB is just a victory lap.One of the better BG2 weapons is a flail.
>>521589445>One of the better BG2 weapons is a flail.Warhammer better
>>521585402It's kind of dumb you can't go legend early on. Rejecting the various powers makes as much sense early on, and you wouldn't need a god's help to do it. Trickster is easily the most mundane and unaligned in the cosmic sense of the lot at least
>>521587198He literally says that because firearms have veil piercing
>>521590007The anon you're responding to only said better, not best, grug.
>>521590198locking all the late game paths back the way they did was a mistake (I can understand swarm for mechanical reasons) though yeah, legend is the most egregious
Imoen-kun......
>>521590007desu flail is a smoother ride from start of BG2 to end of ToB and not that much behind warhammer
>>521587198Look at all the seething martialkek replies lol
>>521591173The flail of ages is just a fun weapon in general and you can get it really early. Warhammer has exactly one notable weapon that you have to get back from spellhold for iirc, but it's a hell of a weapon
Why are casterkeks so inscure and dum despite having high intellect?
The midget has a point
except it's always the martialkeks who start nibbling at the casterchads' ankles, crying of how unjustly the universe is stacked agains them
>>521592071>tfw can't find outfucking sawyer. sperging out about romances and then adding Pallegina to his game.
I forgot you get to name islands in Deadfire. Good thing I'm drunk or else I'd actually dwell on the name
you know, while most of wotr's companions are middling for me in terms of character, they really have pretty good voice acting across the board
>>521592071He’s basically height level to the cloaca. He can give it a sniff test and find out
>>521591953dumped WIS (no composure) and CON (thin skin)
Imoen is smart, beautiful, friendly, and you're at each other's side for the whole journey through thick and thin.You're also not siblings. You have different mothers, and the only thing you share is a god father, and it's up for debate if that even works the same way as if you had a mortal parent.I like Imoen romance, and I am not an incestfag. She's just actually a very attractive person who also has a lot of camaraderie with you. She's especially cute with female protagonist.
>>521593071If you really think about, basically anything that gives you the scent ability in games like this gives you the ability to know shit like how long since anyone has cleaned themselves properly or masturbated. I assume that would apply to and druid shapeshifting bullshit
>>521593265I was with you until the last sentence.
>>521593265>and it's up for debate if that even works the same way as if you had a mortal parent.By who? The only person who has ever said that shouldn't count is a drow. Drow fuck demons and relatives as part of their cleric training
>>521593397Do you know what your image is from
>>521592565Factual
>>521593265If there's one NPC I actually wanted to come back for BG3, it was Imoen.Not as a companion, but just as someone nodding you along.
>>521593540I think Imoen could have had the same role as Jaheira just fine, but I genuinely think they did a really good job with her and wouldn't want to replace that
>>521593508yea. I snapped it myself. why?
>>521592071How did we go from based Hiravias to whatever that reddit Orlan in awowed
>>521593057Yeah I agree. I'm playing WOTR for the first time now and I don't find any of the characters that interesting which is a shame.
>>521593960Some horny old woman that's discretely okay with murder?
>>521593960Yatzli is based. She's a literal slut for white human cock
>>521593691Jaheira ended up being my favourite BG3 companion. Shame you get her so late.
>>521594196That may have worked in her favor. I don't think she would have been a good fit for act 1 or even a lot of act 2
Is being squeamish about gore seriously her only character trait or is it just a running gag? It was funny the first time she got queezy at a gruesome sight but now I'm just wondering if I should just leave her in camp
>>521593960>based HiraviasNo one says this
>>521594413>squeamishright
>>521593960>that reddit Orlan in awowedShe is awesome?
>>521594413Minor spoiler since I'm sure you have figured it out by the combat lines she shouts it's just a gag and she is a crazy bitch serial killer
>>521593265>Imoen>attractiveIf you change the portrait maybe.
>>521593265>You're NBR so it's fine ;)It's like in my Japanese cartoons. Did you grow up together, yes or no? That's the only thing that matters when it comes to incest.
>>521594413She has one character trait and thatis eing a serial killer. that's it. that's the entire character. there is no nuance or reason for her being like this and neither can you change her
>>521594413Did you not get her character when the first thing she does is being hunched over a bloodied corpse with a knife and she has two line deliveries that are>I am helpful, am I not :D>I am helpful... am I not >:)
>>521594658Imoen (pre-loss of hope)
>>521594748Well she IS helpful. She's my main tank and chest unlocker, she's also pretty so I guess I don't really question it
>>521594737>there is no nuanceSomething that Cam haters lack too, together with reading comprehension
What is camillas character arc?
>>521594004>I don't find any of the characters that interesting which is a shame.Daeren is pretty goodThe rest, I dont really hate any of them but there also arent any that I really was interested to see where their quests went
Everyone hate Camellia. no one likes the uglyu quarter elf hapa and she becomes useless in higher lvls
>>521594994Where she goes from testing the waters to accepting you as a patron of her murder hobby.Alternatively where she goes from being a living being to mulch
Open your heart to me
I'll cut them wide open
Leave the last one for me
Camellia hate is so forced
The world in crimson
>>521595283That's her best line
wrath is a bad game with bad writing and bad characters
Death is life's final surprise. And I enjoy surprising people.
POE is the only game with actually good rtwp combat
Wrath is a good game with bad writing and some bad character like Camellia
rogue trader is the best owlcat game
>>521595435No, that's BG1 because the rules at that stage are so simple, and Dragon Age with the FFXI system.
Owlcat will make there own original fantasy world with its own unique system and it will save crpgs
Fighting for a righteous cause is certainly different from a simple massacre. The former is more bloody and performed with pinkies out
>>521595283I don't hate her but she is pure murder bait, she is perfectly designed to make you want to kill her in every playthrough regardless of aligment. Special mention to Wenduag.
>>521595363I could point it out, but it wont improve the thread
>>521594452I say this.
So, sword and shield bash in WotR has continued to be pretty good so far.BUT I feel like a bad tank in an MMO using the spiked shield that does 1d6 damage to me every hit (is there a way to mitigate that?), but it's the only magical one until the undead merchant.
>>521595726During my Lawful runs I usually keep her around because she's worth several magnitudes more than than the level 1 crusaders she kills both mechanically and lore wise
Camellia is the most important character in crpg history. The fact that she still generates this much virulent hatred after years is proof enough
>>521595894My fucking hero Hedwig. His default fighterman sword and board dual wield style was surprisingly fun in Kingmaker. I imagine there are better shields to bash with in WOTR. What you're currently using is basically just a masterwork longsword equivalent
Cam fan should be rounded up and be burned in the fires of Magran
Cam cam cam camkeep saying it
Levelups in ADnD are so barren. I just click the button. They show me this screen just to tell me I don't have any points to spend and then I get some HP.I miss feats.
>>521596232The problem I posted about earlier, is that non-spiked shields don't get the enchantment/material bonuses to damage. So with gargoyles? A +2 mithril shield doesn't bypass magic DR.So it's all about waiting for the spiked shields to appear.
>>521596473because BG isn't a crpg, it's a weg without romance
>>521596180To call her a character for cuckolds would be reductive, as that's such a common variety of shitpost, but she absolutely is subtext for a loved one betraying you in such a way that you have to at least consider accepting it. Personally I really don't care for the character
>spends 3 years cuckposting about her>personally, I don't carehmm
>>521596473You would normally level up "skills" but they aren't implemented in BG. And it's mostly like RP stuff, looking at my Clansdwarf>Intimidation, STR 18 / CHA 7>Appraising, INT 16>Fungi Recognition, INT 16>Mountaineering, - (it's a bonus of some kind, don't remember)>Direction Sense, WIS 13/11>Stonemasonry, STR 19>Dwarf Runes, INT 15>Endurance, CON 19
>>521596830I don't remember doing that. Also "caring for" and "caring" are different things
Camellia is unironically the best written Wotr character, the visceral anger she generates is sublime.
>>521597137If all you care about is annoying people, sure
Thoughts on archmages?
Cam is the bestsimple as
>>521597482they're always fun retards.I miss my skull.
>>521577787And then I took a huge dump on her table rumao. Shitsna's got nothing on me
>>521597482Fun to bully. A pretty missed opportunity in Avowed, but you're playing an an Aedyan, and those guys actually take them seriously
>>521596180>Camellia is the most important character in crpg history. The fact that she still generates this much virulent hatred after years is proof enoughWrong. When she's a 20 year old character that still generates discussion, we can talk.
>>521597482She felt off for an archmage. Very passive when normally they're rude and tell you what to do.
>>521597482I think Camellia is pretty great
How does this guy not go insane standing here with 4 harlots who spend their time wailing like a skinned cat?
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I like Cam because it's fun seeing real people get manipulated by a video game character. Same reason I like Reed from 2077. There's nothing actually interesting about her, though. She's just an unrepentant psycho with no greater depth.
>>521597916What makes you so sure he is sane?
>>521595283There is no Camellia hate becasue most people just kill her and move on. You're not forced to listen to her retarded shit like with shitnio or shitzi
>>521597945Let me shoot a tachyon arrow, Owlcat
>>521597945>More news!>please be excited
>>521598043If you want more magic items you tolerate it for a few more acts while it teases the idea that you can fix her, but that's basically it. Maybe it's a harder choice if you aren't playing a tank, but I usually am
There is no other character that makes people talk as Cam does, that makes them deny their own interest. A literal masterpiece, incredible, a once in a lifetime feat of genius
>>521598193She's nonintrusive. She does not chime in with inane shit every conversation like the other two, so I don't mind having her around until it's time for her to die
>>521598327The other two what?
I think they should stop mentioning Cam because it reveals how obsessed they are with her, it's a bit concerning to hate a fictional woman so much
>>521598401Nenio and Linzi. Nenio I kind of ignore, I never understood the hate for her. Linzi is fucking grating though. Why are you narrating the beginning of my quest when I went out of my way to get a starting party that excluded you?
What's about Cam that spawns so much bile?
>>521598472Nenio doesn't have anything in common with Cam other than being in the same game. Linzi has a similar potential problem of fucking up a team that planned to use her (if you kill Cam), but it doesn't have anything to do with personal preferences in characters>>521598543Her actions?
>>521598616I think you might be retarded. The innitial statement went that anon doesn't hate Camellia, and that there are far more hateable characters in the game
>>521597681Kreia discussions are always annoying because so many people actually sincerely engage with her philosophy rather than realizing that she's just completely full of shit.
>>521598730Anons absolutely hate (and love) Camellia. She's the most polarizing character in rpgs also because she's written so well and challenges every notion commonly accepted in the genre
>>521598730If you don't like Linzi or Nenio just don't use them and suddenly they're irrelevant. The worst Linzi ever does is buys a printing press or some shit, and the world Nenio does is have an annoying puzzle sidequest
Nenio is a great and fun character
>tfw nobody's actually shitposting about your waifu so you have to do it yourself
On the topic of Cam should I keep her around till act 5 so I can sacrifice her as lich?
>>521599112Yep. It's one pathetic samefag
>>521598886>don't use Linzi>the little shit that forces herself into every throne room event despite being a retard and that you can't get rid of Kill yourself
>>521599224Damn, shit really upsets you. Linzi must be a really profound and complex character.
Can we stop raging about Cam for 1 second?
>>521599159If you want
>>521599159>I'm gonna metagame and keep around a character I don't like so that I can sacrifice her later and completely ruin the emotional impact of the storyLow iq
>>521599159I guess if you want someone expendable
>>521599159If you want to enjoy Cam's romance (best in the game) then please do
>>521598816>I'll keep what you say in mind :) KREIA POINTS+++>*continues being a light side mage*
>>521597482At least Concelhaut came to understand me after I made him my pet twice. The others still think they can boss me around.
>>521593960Every Orlan companion so far has been reddit.
>>521597137>>521597358Nenio has her beat in that department
>>521568038Thats just some tranny fetish shit
>>521591841Crom is so overrated. It super easy to boost your strength in bg2 that its affect barely matters, most martial classes have better options.
>>521600640Nenio isn't that bad. Better than Sosiel, Seelah, Wenduag, Arue, the DLC guy
>>521600938It was merely a jest anon. you don't need to pretend to like Nenio here
>>521601023She's ok
>>521597137Nenio makes me annoyed and her companion quest pisses me off. Camellia is just a murder hobo that you get rid of when you walk in on her first "ritual".
>>521600398Grandma just asks that you listen to her
Camellia and Nenio are prob my favorite characters together with Ember, the rest are either boring or simps or both
>Getting near the end of the first act>Start thinking about rolling a new characterwhat is your defence against this, I need help
>>521602445If you aren’t having fun, don’t force it and try something new.
In your opinion, what cRPGs are best suited for movie/TV show adaptation? Personally I think it's Knights of the Old Republic (the first one), because that game has managed to capture what people actually loved about Star Wars (even though they ended up heavily borrowing from Empire in order to achieve so) and VtM: Bloodlines, because the game has lots of charm and atmosphere, it has a massive thought-out world and is full of interesting stories, which vary from different kinds of horror to detective fiction to vampire politicking to outright dark comedy, there's also a lot of potential for good action sequences; I believe that there's at least one good season of television just hidden in there, maybe even two.
>>521602445WotR? So far my no bullshit, longsword and shieldbash ranger has worked.My job is to tank and spank riding my Smilodon. I have no wasted feats because all my feats are eaten before they're even out.>I'd like Iron Will/Combat Reflexes/Mounted Combat/Outflank/multiclassToo bad, something else has already eaten that choice. Level ranger and take the feat you're force-fed.
>>521602605Its generally a case of having fun, but then I'll think of another class and all the ways it would be fun in different, perhaps better, ways
>Cambro wall of samefagwhy can't we ban people for this retarded shit but talking about he who shall not be named gets you a 3 day vacation in here?
one day crpgg will learn to move beyond a one-dimensional psycho "waifu"
camchads rule this shithole
>>521602826>In your opinion, what cRPGs are best suited for movie/TV show adaptation?Shadowrun could be interesting, especially as I think most people have forgotten about Bright by nowArcanum would be funny just because of the sheer seethe it would cause, one way or another
>>521602880This is to alleviate my choice paralysis, I should say.Just leveling what I need to is the right path. There is no choice.
camcucks ruin this shithole
I’ve uninstalled WOTR I just can’t enjoy it bros. It feels like fanfic and not serious. I also think it’s more of a game for people who like big numbers which isn’t me. It’s a shame because I enjoy RT
>>521603378Thats fairwhat are you going to play instead
>>521595894Vicious is fine for a lich (the 1d6+CL heal on every attack with vampiric blade more than makes up for the damage) but it's irritating for anyone else.
>>521603501Not sure. I’ve also completed a POE run for both games recently and I’m just waiting for Lex Imperalis. Might get back into reading and take a gaming break. I’ve started malazan and I’m liking it (when I know what the fuck is happening)
>>521603378Understandable. It's a game that sucks you in, but not in a very fun way
>not serious>number autismYes it's a perfect game
>>521603638play shadowrun or arcanumotherwise you are free to go
Why does Horgus act like a 1000 gold is a massive amount? Nearly every useful item in act 1 is triple the cost at bare minimum.
>>521603928rpg money pretty much never makes sense
>>521603928The second you put a number to anything in Pathfinder it stops making sense. Oftentimes before that
>>521603213>ShadowrunI like Shadowrun, but I don't think people will ever treat live action cyberpunk orcs & dragons seriously, Bright or no Bright. But maybe in animated form it would actually work (just like a lot of classic point'n'click adventures, for example).>ArcanumWell, I don't know, while Arcanum arguably has the wittiest dialogue writing in videogames, it kind of lacks the necessary focus in storytelling department.
We are in a crpg drought
>>521594658Look at her CHA stat.
>>521603928because pnp rpg dont throw out magic items like theyre oprah
I HATE YOU ALL
>>521606592Be quiet
>>521606857I have more bugs than you have spray!
>>521607086>>521606592it's really funny to me that you supposedly become this incomprehensible swarm, but the gameplay still has you as still just a dude only made of bugs now.
>>521603928It is for the average person, isn’t it?I swear the average DND peasant canonically earns 1 gold a day
>>521593960>hating on Yatzli couldn't be methat slutty orlan was finna making me act UNWISE
Just found out that the hyper-optimising dragon age autist is playing on easy mode
>>521607770The name is "Swarm That Walks", not just "Swarm", plus you start the path off actually just reanimating your disgusting rotting corpse by filling it up (or what remains of it) with bugs that you control. Outside of not being able to fly which isn't supported by any path, including ones that outright have wings, it's not surprising that "you" are ultimately just a dude in gameplay.>>521607898Isn't 1 gold enough to live luxuriously for a full month in Forgotten Realms?
>>521603008Should I try to finish FFIX? People tend to like this one, but I couldn't play it for more than a couple of hours, because not only it has literally the worst implementation of ATB in the entire series, it also tries too hard to be like the old SNES-era games, wounding being rather uninspired and derivative.
If you could play any role in the world, which one would you play?
>>521608524the role of a woman
I have heard of penis inspection day before, but this seems a bit extreme.
>>521608524Whoever is the biggest, most powerful tyrannical douchebag in the history of humankind, with the longest unquestioned reign, even if it ended violently.
>>521608524One of someone playing Lex Imperalis
>>521608219Common meal and lodging has been 8 silver/day since forever. 8 silver is 0.8 gold.
>>521608860There is a short story written by Jorge Luis Borges called Deutsches Requiem, its main character is a Prussian noble who had lost his faith in Christianity and became a member of SS in order to usher the New Era free of servile Christian timidity, then he became the director of concentration camp, where he torture and murder Jewish intellectuals in order to kill his own compassion (even though he likes them on an intellectual level much more than his fellow SS men), he lost everything to war — his leg, his brother, his family house, and now he sits waiting for a firing squad, rejoicing that the Old World is essentially dead, even though the price was the destruction of Germany: "Let heaven exist, though our place be in hell". I find this character strangely compelling, only my kind of villain would be more fatalistic and of Hegelian persuasion rather than Schopenhauer & Nietzsche one; an agent of dialectic process and (perceived) Weltgeist, so to speak.
>>521610547so many words to convey nothing
>>521611000It's not that many words, actually.
>>521610547so few words to convey so much
>>521610547words to words
>>521610547That sounds interesting but I am not sure if that necessarily applies to me wanting to be the most powerful tyrannical douchebag in history. This just seems like the tale of a lost soldier. I gotta be the head honcho!
The general and Varn is the best romance in Kingmaker.
>>521611861I like that portrait
>>521612386If you pick Jamandi's portrait for your baroness, she uses that one instead.It's fucking funny to imagine that entire Stolen lands scheme was concocted by some twenty-or-something hapa girl
>>521598472>>521598327>>521599224...Many goblins posting here, it seems
>>521613154Nah Linzi is just annoying. She also ruins the roleplay aspect as she literally steals from your treasury yet you can't do shit about it. Any evil alignment should be able to execute her on the spot.
>>521507586Farscape had its moments, but drama between characters was so fucking dull and tedious.>>521507660No. Fuck no. An utter piece of shit. I still refuse to believe how Moore has managed to pen both some of the best Star Trek TNG/DS9 episodes and THIS. Also, I'm deducting some points even further, because the popularity of this crap essentially made Stargate Universe into what it was and it propelled Tricia Helfer to get a top billing in every high-profile videogame of 2007-2013 (don't get me wrong, she's a fine looking woman and always tries to do her best, only her best sometimes wasn't good enough).>>521508123SG-1 was good but somewhat inconsistent in terms of quality, Atlantis was mostly the same, only worse (the only reason you any sane person would watch SGA beyond season 2 is the antics of Sheppard-McKay duo and rare SG-1 episode crossover).>>521508473Ori storyline at the beginning was actually quite intriguing, but then it rapidly deteriorated and was abruptly finished in season 10 and the movie. Probably the worst story arc conclusion since the Dominion War.>Ironically enough when the two main actors from farscape get major rolesWell, it's not like it was their fault. Claudia Black arguably did her best with Vala material, and Ben Browder was horrendously miscast to play a straight man of the group (even though in Farscape he proved again and again that he shines at playing wacky, hammy and over-the-top kinds of characters; he would've been a great recurring Goa'uld).
>>521611773>This just seems like the tale of a lost soldierMore like a Nazi Raskolnikov without all of the melodramatic sentimental pious prostitute shit.
>>521613798The ori was ruined by being yet another boring ancients storyline. Stargate peaked at Anubis and then never recovered.
>>521615792Ori weren't bad because they were just another Ancient breed, but because they were quickly revealed as duplicitous and malevolent force that just wants to sap the energy from lower being who practice their false religion. I think it would've been much better if Ori were to believe their own rhetoric and their own hype, rather than it being just a bold face lie.>Stargate peaked at Anubis and then never recovered.I usually attribute it to RDA slowly distancing himself from the series. He was the soul of the show, his nonchalant attitude and ad lib jokes essentially transformed the series from whatever it was trying to be in season 1 into a comfy sci-fi adventure that eventually survived for 10 seasons. This, and the writing started to become a bit stale, which is expected for a show of this length.
>>521597482Ryngrim’s repulsive visage
>>521618273kek
>>521597482Could you kill this bitch
>>521618706No. Probably the only one we come across we can’t kill other than Tayn
>>521618881Now Tayn I can get into
>>521597482NOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN’ RUININOS!!!! THERE’S NO WAY YOU’RE GOING TO RESOLVE THE PLOT I MEAN STOP THE DREAMSCOURGE PROTAGNIST OF THE VIDEO GAME. YOU NEED TO KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FOR THE GREATER GOOD!
>>521619554>killing a bunch of rautaians and steel garrote>this is bad for some reason
Did I lose out on anything by killing Concelhaut and Llgrath in my pillars playthrough?Are they significant characters in the second game?
>>521621108yes but they respawn anyway so it doesn't matter
>>521621108Concelhaut is definitely the best "pet" in the first game, and if you fight Llengrath you get access to her dragons upgrade material
>>521621679>best "pet" in the first gameI didn't use him, I thought he would be another cringe creature. But it turns out the pet was actually his phylactory for real so maybe I should have, it does have an ability iirc >>521621679Due to the echantment system I didn't have the space to make most weapons legendary, because I of course gave them a lash earlier on. I couldn't upgrade most of them anyway, you can't upgrade soulbound weapons at all for example and most of the good uniques are superior anywayHer/his/their spellbook is also kinda shit when you get it, as all the hard cc fights are over by then anyway and that's the main thing their spell help against, imo
Poe 3 will be the finale of the watcher and you get to bone Pallegina this time and get her pregnant >sourceI have powerless prophecy irl.
>>521622007>it does have an ability iircIt summons Concelahut who has a handful of abilities
>>521621438>but they respawnConcelhaut respawning I can get behind, his soul is still in EoraLlengreth surviving when they are a bodysnatcher is bullshit, but don't spoil that for me, maybe it makes sense
that time sawyer said he coulda made a bg3 (after his two shit games) with the same money as Swen, he and just laughed and ignored the cuck from cali
>>521622581Sawyer could make a better BG3 than Larian
do you think tim cain gave sawyer head so he'd let him make outerworlds 2?
>>521622787With BG3 budget he could finally have sold a whole 1 million copies Imagine that, he would be able to match DOS1's sales
>>521621108They both have a big focus in one of the DLCs
>>521622581Wonder how Sawyer feels about trying to be the "CRPG saviour" just for Owlcat and Larian to casually eclipse him with better games.
>>521622787by using the money to hire chris avellone?
>>521613154>letting some midget dyke steal your think-thoughts Longsharks really be like that.
>>521623409yes
>>521622581>that time sawyer said he coulda made a bg3 (after his two shit games) with the same money as SwenI don't think he's wrong, actually. Give the similar budget and relative freedom to Sawyer, or to MCA, or Troika (but only in full, meaning Cain, Boyarsky AND Jason Anderson, who is underappreciated, I think), or James Ohlen (which would be the obvious choice a for Baldur's Gate game) — and I believe they would've made a better game than Swen.
>>521624056Of course he‘s wrong. Larian wasn’t simply gifted a massive budget, they released multiple games and worked for and earned it. Sawyer has nothing to offer but idle commentary and what could be if only he were given millions of dollars. He‘s a joke desu
>>521622581Sawyer is just another Todd Howard. Total hack.
>>521619691Tbf it takes out a bunch of Aedryn soldiers that are there too.
>>521622581>it came to me in a dream
Give me one reason why everyone seems to dislike Sawyer WITHOUT mentioning romances.
>>521625153Not enough dragons
>>521622849That would have had to of been Feargus (how the fuck does MS continue to allow that dumbfuck to remain in charge? the only bigger albatross in that studio is Chris Taylor) not Sawyer. Plus, Tim Cain is just a consultant on TOW2, I think I remember seeing that Adler is the one actually running the show.
>>521625274on the topic of dragons, I like how weird they look in pillars
>>521625007https://www.ign.com/articles/josh-sawyer-would-make-pillars-of-eternity-3-if-given-a-baldurs-gate-3-sized-budget
>>521623409>>521624040The fact that that stupid bitch tanked his career because she wasn't getting enough attention on social media is a fucking travesty. We'll never see him do anything else in a major studio.
>>521625478The whole thing with them assuming a fitting form for the environment they grow up in is cool
>>521625153He works on shit games and makes stupid comments, but still has the audacity to puff himself up and compare himself to naturally successful people/companies
>>521625581>i'd make pillars 3 if I got the budget of bg 3>that time sawyer said he coulda made a bg3 (after his two shit games) with the same money as Swen, he and just laughed and ignored the cuck from caliSo you just lied.
>>521625153Why does "everyone" dislike Avellone/Cain/Obsidian? Its just a few nutjobs that had something knocked loose in their heads at some point; its rarely coherent or rational and if you ask them to explain then it usually quickly becomes apparent just how far gone they are.(Not that none of the above are free from criticism, of course.)
>>521624781>Larian wasn’t simply gifted a massive budget, they released multiple games and worked for and earned it.And Obsidian didn't? Sure, Larian are better at planning and polishing their games, no doubt about that, but are they really better creatively?>>521624827>Sawyer is just another Todd Howard. Total hack.Implying that IWD2, NWN2, F:NV, Pillars 1 & 2 and Pentiment are literally the same game remade over and over again for the past 20 years in different settings with "16 times the detail".>>521625274Personal politics and adversarial style of polemics. He's not the most likeable man in the world.
>>521625789He didn't lie, he just willfully took the most uncharitable reading and added a dash of misrepresentation. Its what will continue to happen if you keep engaging with him, no longer limited to Sawyer but extended to you you as well. Have fun.
>The sun gleamed off Swen's armor into Sawyer's eyes. Sawyer was slumped and heavily tattooed, sweaty to face such a crpg legend'It should had been me! I should of had that budget, I am the fucking RPG savior - me!''Now it begins!' Sawyer bleated while drawing his blade.'No,' Swen stated sadly, 'now it ends.'
>>521626113Yes? Their creativity led to one of the most successful games ever and the revival of a dead genre. They are better at planning and polish but more importantly, responding to feedback
I'm playing Kingmaker and I found this strange Monitor Lizard in and outside of the boggard lair in tranquil riverbed.Doesn't have a level, has a whopping 24 AC despite it saying 17 in the screenshot, and most certainly has more than 1 HP. Is this a bug or something normal ?
Have any of you tried getting all the achievements for WotR?
>>521626473>Larian >polishYeah their EA shit they use to trick people into buying their games.
>>521626473>Their creativity led to one of the most successful games everWitcher 3 was one of the most successful games ever 10 years ago too. And before that everyone and their mother were gushing about Mass Effect and Skyrim. Are those still better than everything Obsidian had ever made? Or maybe even The Outer Worlds would've buried them dead if it was released circa 2010?>and the revival of a dead genreAnd what did Baldur's Gate 3 exactly "revived"? How many large budget cRPGs were greenlighted and subsequently released because of its popularity? Or did it spearheaded the sales of tabletop RPGs? In fact, I would say that Shadowrun Returns, Wasteland 2, Pillars 1 and other crowd-funding pioneers remain much more influential in this perceived revival than BG3 is right now.
>>521626473>revival of a dead genreBG3 (and DOS2) wouldn't exist without POE1 making the CRPG space more popular after a decade of declining popularity.
>>521626259>he didn't lie>he just made shit upI think we have different definitions of lying.
>>521627991crzy sawyer really believes this shit
>durrrr genrePoE failed to revive crpgs, pathfinder and dosshit are completely different games from Baldurs Gate, NWN or Wizardry. Just because they use an isometric view doesnt mean they form some kind of continuity with those boomer classics.
>>521628336now THIS is what I call a dumbshit take!
>>521628336Do you really believe that Owlcat would've ever made Pathfinder games if Project Eternity crowd-funding campaign wasn't such a smashing success? Or would Swen himself went on Kickstarter to get money for DOS1 when his company was on the brink of bankruptcy?
>>521627991Truth, and I'd also say 'declining' is too mild, it was dead, especially relative to the explosion of games and advancement between the old crpgs and Pillars1.
>>521588230Flail of the ages + foebane is great
>>521628651awwwwwww did your ego get hurt because you are not playing some sikrit klub special "crpgs" but run of the mill normie rpgs like everybody else?>>521628779idk, who cares
Does pallegina also have feathers in her pubes?
>>521629112the feathers are her pubes
>>521628987>who caresPeople who actually care about meaning of their words instead of just mindlessly throwing them around? I'm still waiting for examples what did Baldur's Gate 3 exactly revived, by the way.
>okay owlcat and larian are better....but they stood on Sawyer's shoulders to get there!we've reached peak cope. making a shitty bg clone was a revolutionary act
>>521629390>>okay owlcat and larian are better.no one would say that, especially about owlkek
Thankfully this time around I AM the NTR.
>>521629312Read my post again>>521629390*a shitty bg clone that didnt influence anythingWotr and "BG3" are more influenced by DaO and Skyrim than anything from the 90s, let alone fucking Obshittian
>>521629697>Read my post againIt's mostly gibberish. Would you care to rewrite it intelligibly?
>>521629312>>521629886Somebody escaped his containment zone
I don't know why people say Sawyer doesn't care about romance. He clearly does as he adds them in the game, only difference is he seems to have some strange stigma against the player character getting any and only makes it so that companions or NPCs get laid. Look at Pillars 2, when he did add romance for the player he went out of his way to make sure it all ends badly. With the fish girl and the priestess if you romance them you end in up a long distance relationship where you barely see them, but if they romance each other they get a happily ever after with zero issues. I can go on and on about how EVERY Obsidian game has this dynamic but I wont.
i struggled a bit with desther, i was not prepared for the fight with subpar spell list because i didnt know the fight, ehi sometimes wonder if i should bother with summons if i cant fireball my enemies, if i could the fight would be easy (i think) but i had to magic missile a lot of mobs, is there a summon immune to fire/ice/electric dmg so i can destroy the room in the future?ALSO, are necromancy aoe heal the undead summons?
speaking of skyrim I think today is a perfect day to play the role of Dovahkiin
Someone pointed out the other day that there's some kind of strong correlation on /crpgg/ between anons enjoying Pillars and incredible amounts of seething about PillarsI do have to say I've noticed it also
>>521629390Pillars by itself wasn't revolutionary, but gathering $1.1 mil in 24 hours for a vague pitch and a single concept art was.
>>521630260Based. All this Swen vs Sawyer BS is cope to distract us from the true GOAT: Todd.
>>521630030Sawyers mistake was that he thought there is a market for people who want to play rpgs.Turns out everybody just wants a dolly to kiss with 3d graphics and everything else is secondary.
>>521630030>I don't know why people say Sawyer doesn't care about romanceBecause Sawyer said so himself when talking about NWN2.
>>521630542>Turns out everybody just wants a dolly to kiss with 3d graphics and everything else is secondary.It was obvious when BioWare were at the top of the world in late 00s and early 10s. Larian didn't do nothing new there.
>>521630542>Sawyers mistake was that he thought there is a market for people who want to play rpgs.When is he going to make one then?
>>521630467sovl… love the art design
>>521630030I don't even know why people are so obsessed with the guy. Before I started frequenting /crpgg/ I didn't know who the guy was.
>>521631000I think the reputation comes from New Vegas mostly
Speaking of Sawyer, there's some interview video I've wanted to see again but am shit at tracking stuff like that down. I think it was pre-Deadfire but it might not have been, but it wasn't his recent slew of youtube videos. There may have been someone else next to him. It was answering questions from people.Anyhow the important bit is one of the questions was "Why are they called the Leaden Key" and his answer was kind of interesting but I've forgotten it. Very low chance anyone has that offhand but it's something that nags in the back of my mind occasionally.
>>521630542His mistake was RTWP shit. If that moron was smart he would realise that antiquated system should remain buried.
>>521630467This has more Sovl than anything made by Owlcat and Larian. and i like Wrath and Bg3 more than poe 1
>>521631259rtwp is just turn based that is automated by the computer crybaby
>>521630467I spent so much fucking time looking at that picture.
>>521631000For me, I have no kind of feelings about creators whatsoever and have a very strong ability to separate artist and art. But Sawyer is one of the few developers who I think says anything worth a damn, is interesting and able to be self-critical when it's warranted. Contrasted with someone like Tim Cain who also does interviews and talks, but I find bullshitty and even downright wrong most of the time.But I don't have any personal feelings about these people more than they are insiders to the kind of game I most enjoy, and would even like to make myself.
>>521631334>>521630467POE map design… home…
>>521630030because he‘s ridiculous. He is uncomfortable with the idea of the player/customer using entertainment as an outlet for fantasy. He thinks there is something strange about fictional romance and the people that consume it and so tries to make it as uncomfortable as possible for the reader to prove some point to himself that he’s smarter than those people and unlike them, he doesn’t need such trivial content to feel fulfilled or to fill a void, or something. Mostly it’s because he lacks the ability to write a convincing/exciting romance and this is how he copes
what's up with all these faggots sucking off sawyer? anything good from obsidian was avellone's.
I would suck off Sawyer tbqh
>>521631793Tekehu pls stop
I wish the future was my boot stomping Swens face, forever.
>>521631697Where has he said that? The stuff I’ve seen is that he finds romances in video games stupid because they are you picking 5 lines of dialogue and then you’re in love.
Will pillars getting turn based even matter? I'm assuming it's filled with filler encounters like the Pathfinder games were so a turn based mode would just exasperate everyone's boredom.
>>521632348It will make the game slower but it’s probably being made for console players through game pass. Avowed lead to a surge in POE popularity
>>521630030Romance was only added as a kickstarter goal lol. Otherwise they never would have. Obsidianhates wish-fulfillment you must be DOUR.>>521631793I think he's asexual that would be rape.
>>521632181because it’s obvious given his attitude. If he could write a good romance he would be lauding himself as the King of CRPG Romance and leaking through a third party as I type this that in order to be successful, the devs of BG4 will need to bring him on as creative romance director of the sex and love department or risk nuking their reputation forever. Look at what he allows himself to enjoy publicly. He plays these insipid, ugly games alone and tries his best to talk indepth about the least interesting topics in a bid to appear knowledgeable and intelligent. I simply don’t think he’s interesting enough to write a good romance
I'm glad that Sawyer has a different view of romancesit does get kind of weird how rabid people get over it, BG3 being the prime example
>>521632779>If he could write a good romance he would be lauding himself as the King of CRPG RomanceFirst of all, you're just extrapolating, second, even if it's true then at least he has enough self-criticism to admit his weaknesses. I don't remember BioWare back in their heyday doing a romance that would've felt exciting and organic in their games probably since the days of KotOR, but that never stopped them.
>>521632779It's clear there's a hate boner for him in your post but at least he's self aware that he probably couldn't do it well. Then you get cringe shit like the pathfinder or BG3 romances which feel tripe and fanfic as fuck.
>>521632779>Sawyerfags coming at youHe lacks the ability to connect to human feelings this is trve. Its how autists are.
>>521628128You have trouble reading between the lines, don't you?
>>521630030>I don't know why people say Sawyer doesn't care about romanceThey are bad faith and its more fun to pretend so they can go off. That, or they are secondhandfags and just miming memes in an attempt to fit in.
>>521575742>Skaen is a honeypot god designed to make sure uprisings fail by being so extreme that the status quo stays the sameOr maybe he represents some sort of societal and political "renewal" cycle.
The year is 2025. The effects of romanceposting continue to reverberate
>>521631000Its not just /crpgg/. He draws the attention of any group that is deeply enough into this stuff. Check out RPGCodex so time, as an example.
bros I don't know about all that but me n Greybor about to fuck up a dragon
mindfucking sex with Grieving mother
>>521631000Blame the sudden 3 pillarsfags. I just hate how pretentious he is.
>>521630542pretty muchsee BG3, RT
>>521634289RPGCodex is literally 4chan with registration and casino ads. More or less the same edgy contrarian crowd.
mindfucking sex with Yatzli
>>521631141I don't know this one off the top of my head. But sounds like it was probably a development video on obs' youtube during the production of one of the two games. I'd check out their videos and see if any of the thumbnails jumps out at you.That puppet episode they did was actually pretty kino and anyone who disagrees is just hating to hate.
>>521634493>I just hate how pretentious he is.Another proof that people dislike Sawyer for who he is, and not for what he actually did or did not. A prime example of ad hominem.
>>521634713His pretentiousness bleeds over in his games heavily. No Sawyer is not going to fuck you and make you work on the fabled Pillars 3.
>>521634541she's already taken chud
>>521634517I dont know, I think a lot less people here took it up the ass playing KCD2 and Avowed.
>>521633480autistic people can be energetic and fun though, Sawyer’s work is like a mix of boring and self sabotage. I don’t think he talks about anything but his past projects(read: successes) and monologue about the state of gaming and crpgs. I don’t think he has any passion projects or interesting theories to share and tbqh I would be surprised if he is truly passionate about anything
>game says he's chill>attacks me on sight
Even though I can't stand pseuds and writerfags, and I always skip dialogue in games etc. I still respect Sawyer because in his crpgs he puts as much effort into the gameplay and the system as he does into the writing, if not more. He makes GAMES.Something that those pretentious Discofags and the like will never have because they're too busy huffing their own farts to crunch some numbers.
>>521634517That's clearly not true if you've ever been there but then again I already said "as an example." Try NMA then if that suits your fancy, or anything else. The point is, its not limited to here.
>>521634990He passionate about history. That monk?? game he made but sadly that doesn't interest too many people besides other history nerds and his fags.
Sawyer is fun. You all are just faggots.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlNJSsjIyp4
>>521635523kek ok Sawyer you’re a fag but you’re an alright one now make a game
>>521634575>That puppet episodesay wha>>521635523that nigga wearing a wig
>>521633590>make shit up about swen having beef with sawyer>just read between the lines bro
>>521636112ESL or troll or just misread?It has to be one.
>>521636025https://youtu.be/oj4DNZ-eqZ8?t=360
>>521634895>His pretentiousness bleeds over in his games heavily.Provide some concrete examples, please.>No Sawyer is not going to fuck you and make you work on the fabled Pillars 3.Who says I would be excited for him to do Pillars 3? In fact, I would rather see him doing other things, go a "Tim Cain route", so to speak (Cain did Fallout, then he went straight to Arcanum, then he spearheaded the development of Temple, because he wanted to do a D&D cRPG that wasn't set in Forgotten Realms, then he was working on WildStar because the entire MMO thing was a new field to him, then he was working at Tyranny, which isn't exactly your run of the mill fantasy cRPG, and finally he did The Outer Worlds simply because he never did an action sci-fi game; man clearly doesn't like doing the same thing over and over again, which is healthy in my book; Sawyer probably should do the same, and Pentiment was a decent enough start).
>>521636350First of all, reading between the lines is you interpreting what Sawyer said, not what he actually said. Then what was meant by>he and just laughed and ignored the cuck from caliI interpreted that as saying Swen laughed at the "cuck from cali".
>>521634291>I know, I'll cut time off the journey by teleporting to Drezen and resting there before picking up the hunt!>"Commander, Ember's been taken...!" well shit. She's just a buffbot I guess so I can use Cam but will be limiting myself to maybe 2 Breath of Lifes. Protection/Resist Fire will be the biggest players there, as well as the KC having a Greater Dispel ready. Fortitude is probably through the roof so landing a Plague of Abaddon is unlikely. Though we could spend a round stacking Evil Eye - Saving Throws to -8 in total, and if the dragon is attacking Cam then each bite will call for a save against the Plague... But she won't last long. I will have her prepare Communal Stoneskin for sure. A lot to consider with this turn of events. Important to remain professional while we plan our attack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQe1H1MwGk
>>521636892I am talking about the person you were replying to. Not Sawyer. Notice how you said "so you lied" and then I started with "he didn't lie..."? I'm telling you that engaging with him is largely pointless in not so few words.
>>521635292>That's clearly not true if you've ever been thereOh, I've been there. Probably the only sane places on Codex are those that aren't dedicated to RPG discussion (like adventure games, for example).>Try NMAI remember them passionately hating the Bethesda stuff, but IIRC they weren't so obsessed with Sawyer the way RPGCodex is.
>>521637347>I'm telling you that engaging with him is largely pointless in not so few words.Yes, I understood that and I no longer have any idea what this conversation is about if the "reading between the lines" comment wasn't about the post I initially replied to.
>>521634541People will fuck just about anything huh
Since we're talking about Josh Sawyer and Obsidian again, I was wondering: Josh isn't directly involved with TOW2 or Avowed and Pentiment has been out for long enough that I assume post-production is over. So that means he's likely in the thick of whatever the unannounced RPG is they've been working on for at least the last 2 years. Anyone have any ideas what that might be? Hopes?
>>521638008Outer worlds 2
>>521638008There’s something happening with avowed as they have a roadmap yet to be released. Otherwise who knows. They have big teams that work on games quickly so probably a grounded sequel, a new IP and maybe Avowed 2/Poe3
>>521638008Hasn't he said he got burnt out and has only been doing light consultant work, not being directly involved in any game?
>>521638008New vegas remake
some people say Kingmaker and WotR suffer from ESL writing but never post examples
>>521638446Bethesda would never allow it. It would just further highlight how lazy and incompetent they are.
>>521638448Because that would require to know Russian and do a proper comparison.
>>521638708Both Bethesda and Obsidian are owned by Microsoft. It’s probably easier now than it ever has been. Also Microsoft need to split up Bethesda into teams because it’s insane that the two of the biggest franchises in vidya is held back by a company that releases a game every 10+ years for a series.
>>521638924no it would just require to post lines that read weird
>>521635419I looked it up, it’s called Pentiment. I love history, I read history, I talk about history, I play history games. This doesn’t interest me. It looks like an ugly, lesser Apotheon with stuffy writing and none of the combat. The reviews seem inflated by sycophants, and it looks like a linear “rpg,” closer to a glorified visual novel. The educational aspect is lost because interaction is the entire point of playing a game, someone like me already reads. I see no reason to consider playing this over something like Suzerain. TLDR: no thanks boring
>>521639439>I have an opinion on something I never played
>>521639439Pentiment is good. If you’re a historyfag you should try it
>>521638285They havve another project beyond that. There's been multiple "leaks" mainly from linkedin and the like that there is another rpg project that started up around 2022 (maybe 2021).>>521638308>roadmapThey really dropped the ball on this. Its been like over a month and everyone has moved on. They could straight up release a fully done DLC on Monday and it'd barely register on the gaming industry radar.>grounded 2I never got into the first but it apparently did decent, so I could see that maybe>avowed 2No way that started development on that years ago when they were still in the middle of rebooting the first one.>>521638413He did...years ago. That was after Deadfire. HE sat on his hands for a bit and then did a little passion project in Pentiment. I don't think he went back to sitting on his hands (nor would the studio allow it); I reckon its safe to say he's involved in something.>>521638446Wouldn't be the worse thing but not my first choice. Also, I doubt Sawyer would want to do it.>>521639162Its easier but still complicated. While they certainly could just mandate it, it would cause a lot of bad blood and they hardly need that.
>>521638446New Vegas but it's a CRPG
>>521639918tl;dr
>>521639439>stuffy writingThe Sawyer classic
>>521639635Don’t we all? My opinion is that it looks awful>>521639901Eh. Maybe if they put it on sale for 90% off
>>521639980No
>>521639918>He did...years ago. That was after Deadfire. HE sat on his hands for a bit and then did a little passion project in Pentiment. I don't think he went back to sitting on his hands (nor would the studio allow it); I reckon its safe to say he's involved in something.I don't closely keep track of him. I thought the burnout was after Pentiment. Has Obsidian said anything about what they're working on after Avowed?
>>521639162>It’s probably easier now than it ever has beenEASIER doesn't necessarily mean EASY. Fuck, what can be easier than to do remakes of the original Fallout games? It's like a bit of free money and LOTS of fan goodwill just lying around. But instead they preferred to essentially wipe the events of those games from existence in TV show.>Also Microsoft need to split up Bethesda into teams because it’s insane that the two of the biggest franchises in vidya is held back by a company that releases a game every 10+ years for a series.I don't believe it can be done, because a) there's probably some clause in acquisition deal that prohibits M$ to do so (or at least for some period of time), b) Bethesda owns MUCH more than Elder Scrolls and Fallout franchises, like id Software, Arkane Studios, Wolfenstein franchise, The Evil Within series, rights for Indiana Jones games, etc; how would you split all that?
New vegas but it's a Imsim.
>>521639439>it looks like a linear “rpg,” closer to a glorified visual novelBecause that's precisely what it is: a mix between adventure game and visual novel with some RPG elements, heavily inspired by Umberto Eco's writing (first and foremost The Name of the Rose, of course).
>>521640083Oh no, whatever will I do?!?>>521640439>Has Obsidian said anything about what they're working on after Avowed?No. And that's what I am asking. If anyone has heard anything that I haven't or just even has any wishes about what they'd like to see.
>>521631334PoE is amazing, but Owlcat really did some awesome maps in Rogue Trader too.
Outerworlds 3 is already in pre-production btw
Alright anons help me choose a schizo gf
>>521641375daeran. especially on gold dragon
>>521641395Plan on going corrupt GD and I haven't spoken to that faggot since the start of act 3.
>>521639439Eh I played it once and it's ok at best. Personally liked the art style but there is not much to history aspect.I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like adventure/VN games because there isn't much of a game play. Actually it just felt like some sort of mystery VN with some "choices", writing was probably better than usual S oyer stuff.
>>521641094>No. And that's what I am asking. If anyone has heard anything that I haven'tSorry, I haven't heard anything. I didn't even know there was some unannounced game in the making.>or just even has any wishes about what they'd like to see.I really just want another PoE, Tyranny or new RTWP CRPG IP building on the system they made for PoE.
In the past 10 years>BethesdaFallout 4Fallout Shelter (this is mobile slop but its kind of a cut above so I'll be nice and give them this)Fallout 76Starfield>ObsidianPillars of EternitySkyforgeArmored WarfareTyrannyDeadfireThe Outer WorldsGroundedPentimentTOW2 (Its right around the corner, I'm giving them this)>LarianDOS2BG3>OwlcatKingmakerWotRRTBonus because they weren't around in 2015 and would've had time for another game
>>521641375Kill both because both are evil and retarded. should have want for Arue.
>>521641228sauce>>521641898I gave it a chance despite it not really looking like my thingWas decent, don't regret playing through, likely will never touch it again
>>521641932inxile brehs...
why can't I gift my friend kangmaker imperial edition ?
>>521641917>another PoEThey probably don't want to do that until they see how Avowed was gonna do. Now, at this point, if it truly was the gamepass juggernaut some people think it was, then they might be considering it.>TyrannyPretty sure they can't due to Paradox having the IP.>RTWP CRPG IP building on the system they made for PoE.To my mind it seems incredibly unlikely they'd make a new setting (that's a lot of work) just to make a type of game they already made a setting for.
>>521641375always camellia
>>521642240Had exact same feelings regarding it. Luckily it's not some long, time consuming game.
How is there STILL no art of Irabeth pegging Anevia?
>>521642979nobody cares about the transbian
>>521642679>To my mind it seems incredibly unlikely they'd make a new setting (that's a lot of work) just to make a type of game they already made a setting for.I don't think it's very likely either, but they already did it once by creating both PoE and Tyranny at the same time. Why not go all in on one universe from the start?
new>>521643168>>521643168
>>521642241I didn't honestly think of them because they don't make the same type of games that scratch my itch really (outside of Wasteland). But I'll include it since you asked nicely.>InXileTorment: Tides of NumeneraThe Mage's TaleBard's Tale 4Wasteland 3I'll also point out that these studios are hardly the same size. It becomes even more egregious when you consider that Bethseda is probably bigger than all the rest combined.
>>521641932>Bonus because they weren't around in 2015 and would've had time for another gameIIRC, core of Owlcat devs were working at Nival Interactive, one of the oldest videogame developers in Russia (who had released their first cRPG in the same year as the original Baldur's Gate). Although, I don't know if there's someone still left from that era (but there are definitely some of the Heroes of Might and Magic V devs around). So they are not exactly spring chickens either.
>>521642679>Pretty sure they can't due to Paradox having the IP.Isn't Paradox have only the game itself, but not the entire IP? Besides, since Paradox is abandoning RPGs now it would be rather easy to acquire it from them.
>>521641375They show up in your room? I thought it was the war room.
>>521603008Both should be bannable offense because both have nothing to do with crpgs
>>521624827Nah, Sawyer has made good games, unlike Hack Cuckward
>>521643960>Talking about the character I hate should be a bannable offence!top kek, a literal child throwing a tantrum
>>521625998Who the fuck is "everyone"? I like both Cain and Avellone>>521630467It really wasn't because they did this after the first ever successful vidya kickstarter by Schafer that kickstarted (jej) the vidya kickstarter madness.
>>521632721>I think he's asexualNow I actually wanna do it
