Gamba EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>553261797>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
True Grit?More like True Shit!
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
Bound by DOODY!
darktide more like worse than vermintide 2 in every single meaningful way LOL
ENOUGH, RAT! I'M GONNA
>>553465232except the gear progressionand the ranged combatand the movementand the melee not being janky and crosshairs not actually showing where your hit is going to land, making it require retarded amounts of practice to hit a Chaos Warrior's headVT is far superior in the characters though, I'll grant that much. Who the fuck cares about Masozi and Zola? Or any of the Reject personalities? completely soulless cardboard characters and no, Hadron and Kayex cannot carry Darktide on their own
>>553465504>gear progressionwrong>ranged combatwrong>movementwrong>melee jankwrong>characterscorrect
>>553465336Wolverine?More like Dullverine!
>>553465698>he actually likes the retarded red weapon gacha systemthis is how I know you ain't real
Good...good....now they will HATE ratfags...
>get grabbed by chaos spawn as it dies>fall through the map
>>553465770better than the shop gacha system (until you get enough resources to brute force it by buying white items until you get one with the right stats and spend a billion diamantine empowering it).
>>553465504>Or any of the Reject personalities?I like them...But I do wish they had gone with unique characters instead.
>>553464853do you really need 3 toughness curios?
>>553466054no, and in fact you're better off with zero toughness curios. The higher your toughness bar, the longer it takes to refill it. If you are missing any toughness at all, melee attacks deal damage past your toughness. The real meta is 3 Stamina curios because blocking is how you survive in any difficulty past Auric
We got him.
>>553465981>until you get enough resources to brute force it by buying white items until you get one with the right statsPerfect stat distribution is a meme, you can play H40s with a knife that has 75% penetration and 75% mobility.If you can get the perfect stats it is great, but it is not at all mandatory.
>>553465981Perfect stat distribution affects approximately zero breakpoints on any weapon
>>553466270>>553466346ok then why worry about gear at all or compare the two systems in the first place gear doesn't matter lol do whatever
If you can't beat a group of Bulwarks solo with no abilities/grenades you aren't ready for auric maelstorms.
>>553466176
>>553466176gr8 b8 m8
>>553466176this is actually true, and everyone who is new should follow this advice! very helpful!
>>5534660542 toughness and 1 stamina feels good for dodging and sliding to avoid damage. There is an argument to be made for psykers to have 1 health to put them out of a sniper oneshot range but if I'm hit by a sniper I wouldn't be in for a good time anyway and would prefer the toughness or stamina.
>>553466054Toughness completely blocks ranged damage and reduces melee damage. It's your only source of regenerating damage mitigation. Almost every talent in the game no matter your class gives you some percentage of your max toughness back for doing things. So yes, maximising toughness is the right default unless you really need stamina (psyggers) or wounds (martyrdom zealots).
>>553466404>then why [retarded strawman]
>havoc 26>bubble psyker dies once, immediately ragequits>3000 elite gunners of allah moment>have to deal with gunners myself as arbites with shotgun because scum and zealot don't help>more damage and ranged elites than both the other two combined even having to revive them once because they both died>we still lose due to twins fuckeryi also fucked up by forcing revive ngli am so sick of playing with randoms, anyone up for havoc in like 10mns?EU
>>553466404red weapons can turn useless dogshit weapons into godkillers in VT2, in Darktide all that matters is hitting Mastery 20 and max empowering/perking/blessing your weapon properly. Nobody likes the red weapon gacha grind in VT2
>>553466054You don't need any curios, but toughness is usually the best pick. Some weapons with low base stamina like the knife are improved by a single stamina curio, but others like for example arbites shock maul work fine without any.
>>553465728>>553465336Gay>>553465887>>553466210Based
>>553466740you're strawmanning >>553466791the only thing red weapons do is max out your modifiers, it hardly makes a difference just like it hardly makes a difference getting optimized stats in Darktide so who cares just use whatever lole
>>553466791>red weapons can turn useless dogshit weapons into godkillers in VT2Why would you talk about a game you evidently haven't played? Red weapons add 0% power, they just make the rolling easier. You can have a maxed out orange wep with the exact same stats as a red weapon, you just have to roll for 20 more minutes than usual.
>>553466930>>553467074>niggas really trying to act like it's easy to max out modifiers in VT2you ain't real
team spends 20 minutes "farming" slaanesh orbs only to either wipe on the next map or finish the run with 1k+ coinswhy are they like this
>>553465504>and the movementIt always confuses me when people say this. Does Darktide having a sprint button and uh... mantling? really make it have better movement? I'm entirely neutral on this and it just feels like they added it because every game has to have it now, so I'm honestly perplexed.
>>553467179it wasn't hard to get an orange weapon and the difference between min roll and max roll on a modifier was hardly meaningful just like the difference between optimized stats and unoptimized stats on a weapon in darktide are hardly meaningful so just use whatever lole nothing matters
>>553466567>>553466618>>553466669>they think it's a jokeToughness is a meme. Either it's full or you're dead. Bigger bar = slower refill
>>553466742I would but I gotta sleep in like 10 minutes, maybe tomorrow if you're on earlier
>>553467336You do realize toughness regens by % of your over all toughness, not by a flat amount, right?
>>553467287>Does Darktide having a sprint button and uh... mantling? really make it have better movement?No, because despite lacking those two things VT2 still had better movement. You were less sluggish when moving normally and you could dodge into a jump to maintain momentum for kiting and whatnot without needing to break your pinky finger with sliding nonsense.
>>553467336>THE CALLED ME MAD! MAD! BUT I'LL SHOW THEM!
>>553467410>You do realize toughness regens by % of your over all toughness,only some talents do this and it doesn't help at all with other sources of toughness regen
why do some melee psyker builds recommend assail instead of brain rupture? im only an auric baby so idk if it's different on higher difficulties
>>553467510assail builds peril faster? idk really
>>553467490>only some talents do thisNo, all of them do. Go check them.
>>553467510Because you have a gun for sniping specials and whatnot. Assail is there for added horde clear when you don't have Scrier's up, plus it gives you a method of generating peril when you need to (again when Scrier's isn't up).
>>553467510Assail falls off the higher the difficulty, it mostly gets used by melee psykers running Disrupt Destiny as a source for warp damage stacks since they take a gun rather than a staff.
>>553467490Can you name some talents that give you a flat amount of toughness?>>553467510It gives you much better malefic momentum uptime, and warp splitting applies to the shards.
>>55346728740k has guns so you need sprint and slide to feel like you're doing something to dodge hitscanning enemiesSo you can do sensible things like overhead swinging a mace while sliding on your ass
>>553467510because assail lets you dominate enemy ranged enemies like it's nothing. You can face 20 gunners and assail will delete all of them easily. meanwhile brain burst is very slow to pick them off one by one.Also you can throw out assail, pull out your melee, and the assail shards will continue to go where you're looking, like laser guided missiles.
>>553467510Assail is good if you are bringing a high accuracy gun that excels in special/elite killing (revolver, bolt pistol) and your melee weapon isn't great at dealing with hordes. Assail can cut hordes in half if you use it pre-emptively, can make all the difference
>>553467374sucks, tomorrow it is friendo
how good is the normal shock maul?
>>553467336>Bigger bar = slower refillspreading blatant misinformation like this is so evil i kind of respect it
>>553468168It's actually pretty good on Arbites, but it's outclassed by the actual Arbites shock maul. It's not fantastic on any other character.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xohAwy2DYIwwait female seer is ogryn-level retarded?
>>553468168Quite good. Viable for the highest difficulty.
>>553467179Nigger you haven't played VT2, shut the fuck up. It's trivial to get 4.x% of the stats you want. Red weps get 5% guaranteed. Big fucking whoop. Your statement>red weapons can turn useless dogshit weapons into godkillers in VT2Is so fucking stupid it hurts to read. Kill yourself you worthless shitposter
>>553468168Really good. It's worth bringing on arbitrator as a source of skullcrusher when you don't have an ogryn already dishing it out, at the tradeoff of doing a bit less dps than the arbites shock maul and not staggering ragers as effortlessly. Its special move is also insane at breaking the shields of captains.
>>553466176>>>553465887
>>553467510Assail is better for being hyper aggressive due to its fast use. you can swap to daggers and just quickly shit all 10 off them out in a general direction and watch them kill everything in that direction while you already switched back to another weapon. Also assail scales better with warp unbound crit, shitting them out while at critical or after overloaded means most of them will crit giving you much higher burst compared to playing backwards with BB, having to position safely to use it to pick something off in the distance. The only time you should really take BB is if you're taking an infernus staff just for the aoe suppression m1.
>>553468393Not retarded, just insane. Being a psyker cooks human brains most of the time, basically the only reason the Seer is functional at all is because of the Emperor shard hanging out with them.
>>553468616its shield breaking capabilities is comparable to light attack spam but it certainly works
>>553468393The gimmick of either gender of seer is that they listen to the voices in their heads and think that the reality they're experiencing isn't actually real. So not the crayon eater type of retarded that ogryn are, but the schizo type. Maybe some anons here can relate.
>>553469027I've been a NEET for 20 years, yes
>>553468168Skullcrusher stick. Good damage.
>>553468823Only before you amp damage and have your personal buffs rolling out. With skullcrusher stacked on the captain the light spam stays roughly similar while the taser move gets juiced up by a lot.
Our anime posters are the best. i love them so much.
>>553469792There used to be one here who would 24/7 just post gay shit under the guise of posting about the game so I have strong negative bias towards them
>>553469874i don't post gay stuff because i'm too busy doing gay stuff IRL (mainly oral sex)
>>553469792Anime posters are on thin ice.But they're also the only ones posting codes and actively cooping, so I guess they're ok.
Do you remember the faggot who used to post here about how he plays Darktide with a dildo in his ass
>>553470153WHAT.
>>553470153yeah he has a youtube channel now, I think it's called tranner lindon or something
Fiddling with a vet laspistol and dueling sword build and asking for some input with my last point. With this build I focus on gunners/specialists/disablers and melee hordes, krak armor as needed and shout when we need the toughness or to make some space. I used to have it in volley adept for the 30% reload on specialist kill but the laspistol reloads fast anyway so I'm thinking of other places to invest it. I was thinking about:>rending strikes for +10% rending on all weapons>+25 toughness node>keep their heads down for +75% ranged suppression to neuter gunners for the teamor>drop desperado and instead take the +25 toughness node in the middle tree and bring it down for the +20 ogryn and monstrosity damageI'm leaning towards the last one since where I run into trouble is when my team doesn't have much anti-carapace and gets bogged down by crusher packs and I'm out of kraks. Being more easily able to throw my krak grenade then poke and parry any that are left alive sounds good.
>>553469792>>553469982ily2and yet so little people want to cooooop, it makes me sad :(
>>553469874what if the gay shit were skaven, would you be okay with it then?
>>553471393kill yourself you weird faggot
Actually, The Imperium is the skaven of 40K
>>553469874I have a feeling it was the same faggot spamming that one catbox link and hive scum.
>>553469785me and another anon tested this months ago independently and none of us found a big difference between light attacks and the zap. We used skullcrusher and high voltage iirc. But i wouldn't mind being wrong.
>>553470550Incredibly based head clicker. I would also say the last option, although depending on which melee you have maybe drop attack speed instead of desperado.
we also had a ponytranny SoB poster but he got doxxed into oblivion
>>553471794They are shockingly more similiar than you'd think.
>>553472074I remember that, it was some mentally ill troon from the official discord.It was pretty funny to see that the most stereotypical of things is true, ie. the biggest faggot shilling sisters of battle is a troon. It's just like on the tabletop.
>>553470153i do this sometimes while cosplaying as SoB but i would never tell you fags about it because it's a secret
>>553472309>mentally ill troontautology
My favorite was the arbites copaganda guy being found and he was a stereotypical twitter leftie
for me, it's casinotard
what a fabulous lore this general has
all me btw
>>553466742you still on anon? ill join yeh for a game, maybe two
I 'member the cane fag
I don't miss Psygger-chan
>>553473293who
>>553472072It's so funny just banging weakspot hits with ghost and none of the gunners or plasma gunners being able to touch me while I close in. I really like the knife for mobility and horde clear but I don't want to take the bleed talent so I can put the points elsewhere, and the stronger heavies on dueling sword for maulers/ragers/crushers deletes them a lot faster, not to mention parry fucking ragers up good. I'll play around with dropping melee attack speed because I did notice a difference in my horde clear and taking out maulers/ragers without desperado.
>>553469874>>553470153Never heard of this>>553472074>>553471830>>553472804>>553472876These I remember though
>>553473985>4 ranged blessings make you immune to guns>including one for close kills on close ranged weapons>psyker talent does the same for any staff or gun>0 melee blessings do this even though having to fight in melee makes you most vulnerable to being shotI hate sweden
>>553475083Learn to alternate between weapons to trigger blessings, you can do this in melee pretty easily
>>553475083When ghost is active and you auto dodge ranged attacks it also procs reciprocity (5% crit for 8 s on dodge, stacks 5 times) and duck and dive (+30% stamina on dodge/dive/sprint evading ranged attacks) so you crit even more for shocktrooper (crits with las cost no ammo) and never run out of stamina to dodge melee. Its fun but those points for reciprocity and duck and dive can be better spent elsewhere.
>>553475083Consider that this is an intentional bit of design to have a balancing factor in the game.
>>553475664>Its fun but those points for reciprocity and duck and dive can be better spent elsewhere.It's exceedingly rare that the point in reciprocity is better spent elsewhere.
for some reason i can't aim shit with zealot's throwing knives. i should just go back to using my secondary to snipe specials
>>553473116i am now, you still on?
>>553471794god i hate that faggot and stupid video
I know it's a scrub opinion, but I really wish gunner damage reduction applied to all gunners and not just machine gunners/reapers (excluding snipers). I really just don't like the ranged enemies and wish I could ignore them and melee in peace.
>passive aggressive "thanks"that's a block
>>553475961I must still be asleep, meant to say that having points for both is better spent elsewhere, I agree reciprocity is too good to not take on most builds.
>>553476753It should at least apply to plasma gunners.
>>553476753Time to become a psyker main.>talent that makes you auto dodge ranged attacks whenever you crit>best melee build is crit heavy anyway>inferno staff constantly crits>shriek removes 70% of the shooters in the map before they ever become a problem
I see the devs have been taking lessons from Arrowhead.Goddamn this swigger code is pissing me off, either fix poxbursters or remove them from the game.
>>553477860You'll never guess what class I main lol
>>553475290>just switch to your gun and get a headshot every 1.2s while you fight in melee>just switch to your gun and get a close kill every 1s while you fight in melee>just switch to your gun and sprint while you fight in meleeI must not be good at games because this isn't something I can do easily
>>553477860Also souldrinker and in fire reborn/essence harvest procs when an enemy that is affected by soulblaze dies. They don't need to die from the DoT to give you the 15% toughness and +5% crit for 5 seconds or grant a warp charge for 30% toughness over 5 seconds, you can light a group on fire and kill them with melee or a teammate can kill and enemy on fire.
>>553478114With how you're complaining about getting shot to pieces I can only imagine it's Ogryn.
>>553478610I don't like getting shot so I play the class that doesn't get shot. If there was less of a problem with getting shot I'd play something else. ogryn is actually my most played class overall but I've been playing basically nothing but psyker for the past few months
>>553479169Do it coward, you won't
Remember: Ogryn is the "low skill class" despite not being far tankier than anyone else in particular outside of very select situations, and having the worst dodges and movement mechanics in the game. Kiting with a dueling sword with 50% movespeed bonuses on a class that can turn on a dime and climb all fences? that's high skill. Managing to not die with a hitbox the size of africa, two shitty low distance dodges, the acceleration of a chevy SUV and the inability to climb 50% of ledges in the game? Low skill because it's slow
>>553479169CACARAT NOOOOO
Did Mr Estrogen finally make it into the inner circle or why is homie spamming "this is how you fix X" videos non stop?
>>553479301It's low skill because you can put someone with real life ogryn level IQ in front of the console (yes, console) and they'll be by far the most comfortable and successful playing ogryn.No, even arbites doesn't compare, for one simple reason: The skill tree.Put the retard in an information vacuum without guides, and don't give them a build. Give them an empty skill tree.It doesn't matter how retarded your ogryn build is, it'll work just fine in malice.If you fuck up your arbitrator tree, there's a chance you won't have the dog play and win the game for you, or if you do have the dog, that you completely miss the talents that enable the dog to play the game for you. It's also possible to avoid the good toughness talents. It's absolutely possible and downright common even in auric, to completely miss Soulguilt Scan + Target the Weak, instantly bricking your build.
>>553479301I hate playtesters.
No matter how you look at it, vet really is the one class you can't really criticize heavily, huh? He's useful to the team at baseline with great support abilities and easy special clear, not OP like psyker, not tardproof like arby, not a giant hitbox for nets and friendly fire like ogryn, not obviously gimped like zealot and not killed by a sneeze like scum. Really the worst thing you can say about the class is that the plasma rifle is fucking retarded.
>>553480505Hank.You hate Hank.
da ogryn controls da battlefield
>>553479301>confident strike mk3 club literal autoclicker spam buildI don't care how you play the class but that is peak low skill shit.
>>553480194Ogryn is both low skill and high skill, in a weird way. If it makes any sense.When in lower difficulties you're a god that basically nothing can touch because you hit so retardedly hard and have so much DR and on top you get more health than others.So you can literally just W+m1 through the map without issue.In high difficulties (auric and above) you might have more DR than others but you still might as well be made out of paper mache if you get caught with your pants down. And on top of that you have a agility of a snail when compared to other classes, since you have the worst dodges and the biggest hitbox out of any of any class. Which makes you much more vulnerable to disablers. And since you also have the shittiest sprint it also makes clutching harder because you can't run away from the enemies like the other classes do, and you can't use the common clutch routes.And ironically enough when you get to higher difficulties your damage plateaus out hard because your weapons barely keep up while the human classes are not effected at all basically.It's both funny and weird and how much of a paradox ogryn is as a class.To survive in the high difficulties lot of the survivability comes from map knowledge but also having game sense and understanding when to engage and when not to.
>>553477867Why does he have jizz on his face
>>553482183Humiliation ritual, to prove he is a dedicated employee.
Should you take Just a Dream if you are playing high peril melee psyker?
>>553480965You can criticize it for only having 1 good blitz, 1 good aura, 1 good ability and 1 good keystone
>>553484441No, you wouldn't be getting much use out of it. Every competing talent in that part of the tree is a better choice.
>420 rarity curio available for purchase>it's a wound curio
>>553482052You would immediately die on it because "autoclicking" still means you have to pilot that sluggish behemoth and not get fucked by specials. Let's not pretend that dueling swords do anything except spam heavies either, or psykers do anything but purge brainlessly into hordes other people hold off for them
>>553485816>accepting anything lower than 430
>>553480194on low difficulties it's the easiest, on hard difficulties it's the hardest. All he has are stats that eventually get overwritten by difficulty modifiers (and in the case of Havoc, literally) and then all you're left with is an offensively very capable class that however needs indepth knowledge of movement and positioning to succeed, unlike other classes
>>553482134>>553486048You are both correct. I play enough ogryn myself to know. The thing is, fatshark doesn't care, and the ogryn playtesters are severely autistic and retarded. Top-end performance doesn't concern them. Low-end performance describes a majority of the fucking player base, so it's what they care about.Malicelets ruined ogryn. Playtesters don't let him become powerful.
>>553486242Reminds me >H40 comes out >playtesters insisting Ogryn is fine on it >I tended to agree at that point because I hit H40 on day 1 of havoc release on my Ogryn, and I felt useful other than being made of fucking PAPER>watch Reginald stream a 4 Ogryn run with 3 other playtesters>all of them are like true level 35, one had to level to 30 first>mfw they repeatedly wipe in the first room of that one hourglass mission, before the first elevator, for hours, because they don't know the basic Ogryn move tech like side dodge slides to chain heavies while movingIt was in that moment I realized most of the playtesters don't actually play Ogryn but still decide on balance for him, a recipe for disaster. Hank plays him but Hank is retarded for other reasons
>>553486729>playtesters try havoc on any class>wipe in first room>playtesters try havoc on ogryn>wipe in first room>yup looks about right ship it
>Play Arbites with Bolt Pistol>Shit on any and all Havocs>Even if my team is retarded I can pretty much get out of any situation >Play Veteran (my main) with any loadout>Struggle with like half my Havocs>If my team is retarded I'm too squishy and ranged dependent to get out of any situation>Every run feels like a struggle where I have like 3x the kills of my teamI know Arby is incredibly strong, and this is a team game, but it does get tiring
>>553487102they were doing H40 just fine on the other classes at that point, they're not THAT bad they just dont play ogryn
I absolutly hate the slav niggers plaguin the EU server. Just had a polish brownskin so fucking mongoloid you wonder how he managed to afford and run a computer.
>>553486729>>553487268I think it probably goes even deeper than that.>human class "mains" don't like ogryn>this means they don't play ogryn>because they don't play ogryn, they don't know how strong/weak the class is>ogryn "mains" don't play human classes>because they don't play human classes, they don't know how strong/weak ogryn is in comparison to the human classes>players who play all the classes are basically unicorns>players who play all the classes COMPETENTLY at havoc 40 might as well not existIf you assume all of the above, it makes sense why and how some of the opinions when comparing ogryn to other classes are so incredibly retarded.I weirdly think ogryn is mostly fine in havoc 40 specifically, because ogryn's strength is team play, and his weakness is lack of team play. Could maybe use some very slight buffs, but as a force multiplier, he's incredible. No amount of arbitrator cope can make up for taunt and rumbler.Ogryn mostly just suffers in auric, which is a glorified single player mode, and recently (as of a couple months ago) became markedly worse by funneling malice tourists into the higher difficulties. If nobody takes care of snipers, bombers and specialists, ogryn has to waste a ton of time doing it himself, and becomes massively less useful. I genuinely think some slight buffs to his ranged weapons (including swap time, maybe even buffing that talent that makes you swap faster) would probably fix his problems in auric, without affecting the class' performance in malice or havoc 40.
>>553486729>>I tended to agree at that point because I hit H40 on day 1 of havoc release on my OgrynWhy are you making shit up?
>auric maelstrom, lobby>three truelevel <60s>none of them higher than havoc 21>nope, not carrying three useless shitters today>try again>it's the same shit>whatever, let's go quick play>a level 20 somehow stumbled into my auricWeekend darktide is fucking unplayable.I'm starting to hate havoc 40 for dividing the player base. All the good players are fucking GONE from auric. None of them remain. They're all in havoc now. I just want to play some casual games, man, h40 tryharding gets fucking tiring.
>>553488775>I want to get carriedcool story bro
>>553488691What is the point of your post other than admitting you're a newfag? There were multiple ogryns ITT when havoc came out that hit 40 right away
>>553488929>not wanting to play singleplayer in a co-op game means wanting to get carriedDon't you have a 3 day military operation to die in, slavgroid?
>>553464853>spent 100k melkbucks on curios>one 17% toughness
>>553489050I don't know Pajeet, you seem to be quite the little crybaby here :)
>he grinds hundreds of missions for a single percent increase just take the 16s buddy, Brunt will get a 17 eventually
>>553489001No one got to havoc 40 "on day 1 of havoc release".
>>553489439Whatever nigger it was day 2 but I didn't sleep are you happy
>>553488775>quickplay>never leave any lobby>play with 3 <40 levels>game goes completely fine
>play flame staff psyker>mission going ok>no one wants to do minigame>stop to do mini game>2 teammates instantly go down to maulers>last one is backpedaling while magdumping a recon las into crushers>go back to killing everything, get them up>go back to minigame>no one guarding me>they're off L1 the horde>leave matchAt least it was only 10 minutes, if they refuse to play the game I won't drag them through it.
>>553489604That is somewhat more believable, but I still have some doubts.
>>553489665I don't consider having to corpse drag 2 retarded shitters (one of which leaves halfway through to be replaced with another one of his kind) to the finish line while the third one barely clings on thanks to overpowered arbitrator tankiness, to be "going completely fine"
>>553489863That's fine I was just adding the perspective that I literally beat H40 on ogryn when it released before playtesters even tried it and succeeded, whereas they couldn't even stay alive for a single room. They never fucking played the class seriously is my whole point, despite being in charge of balancing it
>>553484835All of vets blitzes are good stuckie.
>>553489889it sounds like you're shit at the game and don't have enough game sense or awareness to make up for your teammates faults. that's fine though, just play on a lower difficulty if you don't want to "try hard".
>>553490216>more low effort lowercase projection trollingSo when are we firewalling off everything east of Poland?
>>553490314>having a fucking melty because you can't carry aurics Couldn't be me lmao.
Don't be European.
>>553490314why don't you include poland in the lot? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>553472309>join the official dt pisscord to see if i could find people who do h40s regularly >click on the general chat>the first five people whose profiles i click are trannies, every single fucking one and that was that, id rather solo h40 than play with those "people"
>>553491964polaks are low tier europeans
>>553488775>He thinks a level 20 getting to auric difficulty must mean he's a bad playerHoly mother of shitters
*fart* NIGGER!
when is Tanner gonna release a meta video for ogryn
Has sCUM gotten nerfed since release?
>>553488775Maybe you should lower the difficulty to Damnation
>>553492979No, why? He was broken on releaseb(as in talents didn't work). They fixed that, shuffled talents around in the tree to make leveling easier (I don't know why anybody cares about that), made reddit launcher useful. I think that's it, he only received modest buffs. Middle keystone remains stupid bad, otherwise the class is fine. Yes, it takes more damage and deals more damage, that's the idea.
>>553493352well i just watched someone in h30 spam chem grenades nonstop and flood the killfeed while the rest of us just killed gruntsand im asking so i dont buy it and it gets nerfed
>>553493496Malicelets are shitting the bed with it, expect buffs
>>553492970maybe once he's done dilating
>>553493496The soup that makes you age triumphs once more
>>553493904you saved my edit!thank you
>>553494116You should keep your head held high, for it is a quality edit and I am envious I didn't think of it first, makes perfect sense as an inspiration for chem toxin having experienced the odor myself
>>553471794I mean more or less. Just not as funny as the Skaven and without the addiction to radioactive crack.
>>553494576desu an anon here gave me the idea
Oh my god. THIS guy.>Get in game with this Commisar looking guy.>I'm the Krieg guy with the Krieg build.>This MOTHER FUCKER keeps falling down the entire game>ON HERESY!!!>Walks into fire>Goes into hordes>I turn around to grab something, he's down AGAIN>We nearly wipe up near the end because we're trying to save his dumbass.>Goes down in final room>I just leave him on the ground and focus on getting us the winIt's rare to actually get a mission where I'm actually dragging a guy the entire way, but I'm the professional like that. Plus the other two were at least decent.
>>553495106lol you bought the krieg bundle
>>553495106heresy gaymers be like
>>553495401No regrets. I'm a sucker for it. >>553495427In my own defense I do heresy for casual heretic slaying.
>>553495106share krieg build plz
>>553495484just play auric or damnation at least cuh, it's chill af
>>553495572It's the one on the darktide build site. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e08cee7-3443-4279-a634-e3450b786a57/the-krieg-storm-trooperOh it updated, better check it out. But yeah it's done me fine.
>>553496429ty senpai
>>553496429That build is ass btw.
>>553495106If they've gone down 3+ times then vote kick each time, the bot will be better.
>>553496821why?
>>553495401Bro if you're poor just say you're poor
>>553496893I bought the Steel Legion bundle 3 years ago when it was cheaper and you had a weapon skin + a trinket in it :)
>>553496196nigger
>>553496429>>553496821Looks alright. Only thing I'd change is kraks to frags, especially with that shovel in the kit.
>>553497236>he think a puny shredder grenade goodLmao oh no no shredder sister
>>553497025And that was that the last bit of money you have ever had
>>553497094whaaaaaaat
>>553497337On that build? Yes, absolutely. You have uncanny strike and the build is a bit ass at dealing with hordes, so it's a pretty obvious choice.
>>553497094Oh my god he said the word, the N word.
>>553497337With garden out of rotation its arguably vets best nade again.
>>553497706You're an unhappy sour grapes little cunt aren't you?
If I play havoc vet, I usually bring a helbore as plasma is boring as shit. Is plasma truly the only other alternative?
>>553498531Just a one size fits most threat deleter that is dead simple to use that most microcephaly addled players can manage.
>>553498531Plasma obsessives are hardstuckie shitters that can't even make the 30 hump. The gun is top-tier but retardedly overrated. It has very little in the way of a gap to the boltgun for example, and the inevitable plasmatards disagreeing with me just don't know how to build that gun to hit 1-2-shot breakpoints, probably magdump it (LMFAO) and somehow obsess over wallbanging with the plasma and other similarly retarded shit.Plasma, helbore, boltgun, bolt pistol, las pistol are all very good for their own unique reasons.
>>553498173I got it for every class because i'm not poor like you
>>553498531>>553498852Oh also, combat shotguns are viable but they're kinda just worse bolt weapons, so they're a bit of a meme. They're alright as a sidearm on arbitrator, but vet needs a proper gun.Double barrel is also usable, but only as a discount flame staff but DoTing in a different color. Requires a specific build, and the build is sub-par for its lack of piss tag.
>>553498852Bolt gun is ok, but bolter I find counterproductive due to the weapon changing animation. Helbore gets a pass due to the infinite ammo Shock Trooper gives.I'm surprised to hear laspistol, I love it in aurics-maelstrom but does it give decent results in havoc?
>>553499119>implying I spend money on funbucks>implying I'm the same person you responded to
>>553499119Show your drip anon :)
>>553499405>bolterYou can run the swap speed talent. You can also just choose to host and filter out players that look retarded, get yourself a taunt ogryn, and never have any melee threats near you letting you fire away. But if it bothers you, bolt pistol can be played the same way, it just lacks burst DPS against monsters if/when (rarely) you REALLY need it, and has less ammo.>laspistolYou can achieve close to 100% crit rate with it, especially with a BP zealot. Its damage output is retarded if you can click heads, and it has close to infinite ammo. Just don't shoot when you run out of stamina for Deadshot, if you're autistic about ammo.
Do thirdies actually think being able to drop 60 bucks on their hobby is a flex?
>>553499946Yes. Just look at Valve's cosmetic market, and then consider how massively popular Valve's multiplayer games are among thirdies.
>>552977562>>553085782Sorry for awkward late response but basically lots of things. The important thing to remember about Aeldari civilization is that it never actually reached its peak until after the Necrons took their nap. Another thing to remember is that the Eldar were one of the motivating factors for them napping in the first place, since they had already taken so much damage from the Old Ones and couldn’t withstand another war prolonged battle from both the Krorks and Eldar and other races the Old Ones created. From that point on, they were more or less the dominant race in the Milky Way and reached heights even greater than when they were around during the WiH. The most significant thing you can extrapolate is that everything the modern day Dark Eldar, Exodites and Craftworld Eldar can do, the Aeldari Empire could have also done and way better, which is crazy when you look at it. The sad irony is that most of their technology was activated or required the use of their psychic abilities to work effectively, and since roughly 90 percent of that tech is with the Dark Eldar who explicitly cannot use their abilities because Slaanesh would assrape them instantly, it means that nearly all of it is just lying around doing nothing. Naturally, this also means that the Aeldari still around are as formidable as they are while using their equivalent of survival tools We don’t know a whole lot, but we do that they were all immortal super-psykers (alpha/alpha+) because Chaos did not hold sway in the Warp to the extent it does in the current millennia. Sources on how they viewed DAoT humanity differ, some claim they saw them as equals, but others say they didn’t think anything more of them than being upstart children. They could apparently travel back in time personally, the more powerful they were the longer they could go back to ‘undo’ time. You could kill them and they'd just reincarnate as powerful as they'd always been.
>>552977562 >>553085782 >>553500107They didn't even fight their own wars because they had armies of machines that did it for them, they were a fully automated society that had even mundane tasks done for them by “psychomatons”, these same constructs were apparently so powerful even the Necrons were getting bent over without the aid of the C’tan. They were able to keep the Krork at bay long enough until they devolved back into Orks, (although seemingly couldn’t wipe them out completely). They could steal and craft suns and planets and move them around as art pieces, kill whole armies with ‘a word’, had perfect cloning, soul-transfer, planet-wide stasis fields, Fireheart devices that could create or outright snuff out both planets and stars and make them violently explode, viral bioweapons that could destroy civilizations on a molecular level either by using wraithbone micro-parasites, nanotechnology, the panacea which could cure just about any disease in existence, nanoweapons, sentient psychic plagues that could spread from one mind to the next, particle beam cannons that can erase daemons, psychic bombs that could selectively wipe out the minds of entire races and leave others untouched, etc. To add on to that, we more or less know that they largely abandoned their gods because they believed there was no higher power than their own, and if you take older lore sources, they were used as Warp weapons at first. We even have sources saying they became masters over all dimensions and that they actually surpassed their creators in some ways. Then you also have things like the Exodite World Spirits, of which a single one used incompetently by a soulless Necron by the name of Orikan was able to overpower a transcendent C’tan shard and destroy 6 whole planets with casual ease. These spirits can also inhabit planets and control everything on them to their whims.
>>553500107>>552977562 >>553085782 >>553500451Eldar Craftworlds are their equivalent of private yachts acting as life rafts made by a handful of wealthy people and are so huge Eldar can be exiled into other places in them and never be seen again. Commoragh itself is so big they have several suns hanging over the city like figurative lamps to light the entirety of it. They have things like triprismic dimensional mirrors keyed to hurl anything reflected in its surface into the heart of a sun as their defenses. They could create extradimensional enclaves, and code them with various supernatural properties that responded to the will of their populations so that you had separate realms where shadows had a pseudo life, spirits could confront their killers, and where the flows of time occasionally reversed. Last but not least, their mastery over the Webway was so complete that they could do things like make gates that could be linked together for any kind of travel without the need for an actual tunnel, create unique parts where you can occupy your own quantum of time so that your trips through the webway are impossible to intercept, make it so that the Webway portals altered their destination to a million different locations, make nexus worlds allowed them to travel to any corner of the galaxy instantly, and apparently made it so wide spanning that it ran between galaxies. Oh and they could also use it to time travel in some cases. It’s arguably the most effective and fastest form of FTL travel in the whole setting.Maybe the craziest thing about them that a lot of people look over or don’t know is that their population numbered in the literal tredecillions at one point. That’s an absurd amount of Aeldari obviously (derived from an actual physicist btw), and would exceed the total amount of mass in the Milky Way galaxy itself iirc.
how come on boss fights peoples brains just shut down and they run around killing chaff the whole time
>>553499536I will as soon as my yacht is back home (we took a detour to hunt some venezuelan natives after celebrating the new year in the caribbean)
>>552977562 >>553085782 >>553500107>>553500451>>553501082The Blackstone Fortresses (known as the Talismen of Vaul to the Eldar) were either Old One or pre-Fall Eldar ships with Warp-cannons that can one-shot any ship in existence currently. The Imperium only knows of six of them, but it's unknown how many in total were made. Two of them could destroy a planet, and three could destroy a star, with one famously being responsible for the fall of Cadia by crashing into it. What would happen if you combined the power of more than three of them is unknown, but considering the implications and what other technology at the command of the Eldar at the time, its very likely they could wipe out entire regions of space with the combined power of them like we know they can already do. Did I mention that their version of extreme sports involved things like surfing on coronal mass ejections with hand held shields as your only protection? Even by the 41st millennium, Eldar who have their psychic capabilities nerfed by Chaos can see the future accurately enough to prepare for it and sometimes even alter it millennia in advance. You can only imagine how unstoppable they were in their prime. And then there's things like the Tower of Heaven reality engine, that, even when broken and corrupted, was able to literally create entire armies out of nothing instantly through the simple wish of the user (as well as alter the world’s landscape in real time and transform the planet it was on into a perfect copy of Commoragh) and apparently had no real limitations besides your own imagination when it had been created by the Aeldari Empire (it’s very heavily implied that this device and/or others like it are what led to the birth of Slaaneesh.)
I hear they nerfed the fuck out of the original penances. Pic was impossible to get back in the day, made you feel like a fucking G being like 1/1000 people to have itNow I guess it's the 53rd skin
About to launch VT2 and paly it for the first time, any tips? Is there anything I can fuck up like wasting currency? I remember people mentioning that kind of thing but I don't remember what it was>>553501082>>553500451>>553500107warning for anyone reading this, chat gpt wrote this, I scanned it
>>553501741dodge
>>552977562 >>553085782 >>553500451>>553501082>>553501683There’s more of course, but putting it simply, out of all the races in the galaxy, the Eldar are the ones who came the closest to replicating and replacing the Old Ones in all their might. I would kill to see them included in any serious capacity in a Tide game and actually done justice, but I doubt we’re going to with how much of a skeleton crew Fatshark has left at this point and with how shafted Xenos are in general in most cases.
>>553500107>>553500451>>553501082>>553501683>>553501952ok you win i will now submit to your space elves
>>553501251Idk maybe they don't want to get hit by chaffBut every time I tank the boss, they are so slow at killing chaff I get impatient and start soloing the boss, and it never ends well
>>553501706>a fucking Ga what
>>553501251Because the chaff is the bigger threat.
>>553502248Newgen
>>553502248G'nigger
>>553502248A real one. A mutha' fuckin boss. The first to hit the block. A shooter, a true pipe hitta'. Snatchin' chains, nigga.A fucking gangsta (gangsta!)
>>553502506can someone translate?
>>553502258its really not
>>553500107>>553500451>>553501082>>553501683>>553501952Knife ear propaganda Imperial cock owns them still
>>553502654It really is. The boss is just a big distraction, what actually kills you is all the shit you don't respond to because there's a boss in the way.
>>553502506>>5535025951 sec
>>553502258this, bosses are lower threat than a single elite
>>553489216I burned up my Melkbucks trying to get a 420 21% HP curio on Psyker. I've heard that with the right amount of HP you can abuse Crystalline Will and never die.
>>553503328>>553502950This this thisI got 3 boss healthbars floating around at the end of every mission because we just ignore them
>>553489216I still do not have a +3 stamina on Vet.Have one for every other class though :^)
The rocket launcher is too good
>>553501952So you’re saying if Necrons woke up and the Eldar were restored to their full might it would be a toss up? That’s pretty sick…
>>553503875Good. You ain't bringing that shit to my missions when hive scum exist
>>553501952>I would kill to see them included in any serious capacity in a Tide game and actually done justice, but I doubt we’re going to with how much of a skeleton crew Fatshark has left at this pointThis is what really sucks. If they don’t pull out a big gun for the next release I think it’s safe to assume we’re not going to get anything like a tech priest or some other intricate thing.
why is the only good female hair locked behind hive cum
>>553504480>>553501952they werent ever gonna do eldar regardless, they literally stated over and over again that it's a human centered game
>>553504453>stamina on vet is badDECLINED
>>553503651Yes but that number of hp is different on different havoc levels and you don't need perfect curios to achieve it, you can get it with perks
>>553504839Eldarfags are as pathetically pussywhipped as SoBlets
>>553503875>+3 stamina 410 trinkets on my zealot and psyker>who already have them>but not for ogryn or vet
>>553505127It is when hive scum exist. Juat be a good boy and bring field improv so the scumchads can keep nuking every encounter in the game
>>553496821Every single cosplay build is ass and doesn't make sense either mechanically or lore-wiseI don't even need to look at it
>>553505481it's actually good
>>553504839>they literally stated over and over again that it's a human centered gameWhere?
>>553504839That’s not what the Eldar ship tailing the Morningstar indicates.
how would you even justify the Inquisition employing Eldar lmao
>>553505669It could be worse, but it's still not good.Why does he need crit chance on helbore which has the worst critical damage scaling in the game (it's not even bad finesse, it has okay weakspot damage modifier, but crit damage is gutted)He wastes 2 talents to get it which he could put in rending and toughness or ogryn damageShovel doesn't even make sense with helbore, fuck muh crieg larp, you could take infantry lasgun if you want to larp so hard. Doesn't even have skullcrusher on it, what a fag.
>>553506317>”hey guys, we’re low on manpower, and these aliens say they want to lend a helping hand, I’m the motherfucking inquisitor and what i say goes so work with them or else”The “Inquisition” is not a monolith.
>>553506654They wouldn't work with the Eldar, the Arbites wouldn't work with the Eldar, and even if you look past these two things you'd need a justification for why the Eldar want to help in the first place. I don't care, put whatever in the game as long as it's fun, but I don't see how Fatshark would justify it to GW.
>>553505459>ESLTINANGGIHAN
>>553506265>That's not what the reference in 1 out of thousands of throwaway voicelines impliesThis is how retarded you sound. They also explicitly said they would NEVER do ratlings, meanwhile our characters have multiple dialogue sets where they discuss how useful ratlings would be.
>>553506338>Shovel doesn't even make sense with helboreI think it doesFrags are very good with the hellbore and the shovel is a statstick The build is still shit but.
>>553485938I'd like my triple 17% toughness curious first before trying to max aesthetic numbersAnd my triple 21% health curious for my zealot buildAlas, brunt fails me
>>553506845>They wouldn't work with the EldarThey would, and they have> the Arbites wouldn't work with the EldarThey also wouldn’t work with people saying openly heretical things and yet the loner psyker is still around.>you'd need a justification for why the Eldar want to help in the first place“Our farseers have foreseen that if this planet falls it will become another daemon world and that’s bad news for us.”Done.
>>553506967>typo = ESLWhy are you so retarded and brown?
>>553500107>>553500451>>553501082im kinda getting turned on herehoping for eldar class int he futureis it even possible to have this kind of coping hope?with the disappointment of hive cum idk what else they could add
>this build is shit>btw bring shredder grenadeslol
>>553507593they're not just aesthetic410 curios = 16.5% toughness420 curios = 16.9% toughness430 curios = 17% toughness
>>553506317dude, the upcoming Dark Heresy game literally has you employing an Eldar and a Kroot
>>553507941>stuckie can't use frags Lmfao
>>553506338>Why does he need crit chance on helbore which has the worst critical damage scaling in the gameshock trooper my nigga
>>553507143If you think that the characters stating an Eldar vessel is actively trying to communicate with us is the same as characters making offhand mentions to Necrons and Ratlings you might be braindead. I don’t even think we’re going to get playable Eldar anymore at this point but it’s obvious that they were/are being set up to play some kind of role in the story.
Never try to discuss lore with tertiaries.
>>553507838Jfc you xenos/waifufags are braindead, aren't you? There are a number of untouched imperial subfactions to pull from. No, we are never getting an eldar
>>553508410ah you're the discord pony tranny :)
>>553508471Nope, just someone that actually reads the books and paints the models. Name a faction you like and I can give you a book you may enjoy. Or one that is batshit insane, really depends on the author.
>>553508641yup you're the ponyfag, you always use the "primary/secondary" terms when you argue with someone online about 40k lore.We know who you are, faggot :)
>>553508829Whatever you need to tell yourself friend.
>>553508342>duuude it's so out of the ordinary that eldar vessels are sending messages and this CONFIRMS eldar dudeOh yeah and the psyker lines about how there's rumblings deep under tertium totally confirm necrons and orks too right? Space marines incoming because they keep stating they're trying to contact them right? No, nigger cattle, they said it would be a human centered story, they're not doing shit with eldar, get fucking over it. It wouldn't fit in the setting either. How you dumb faggots can look at shit like hive scum, ogryn, vet and think>hmm yes you know what would be perfect? an eldar or a space marinereally fucking boggles the mind
>>553508342>>553507705>>553507838>>553504480>>553501952The one silver lining is that we know Abnett is apparently helping write the plot again and if his track record is anything to go by he’ll almost certainly want to incorporate more aliens into the story eventually. The only thing up in the air is how far Fatshark is able to accommodate him.
>>553509440>up in the airNothing about this is up in the air. Necro Sienna was delayed for literal years and given the courtesy of being the game's death knell minus the odd (admittedly good) map here and there. Darktide is barren by comparison to this point in VT2's development. You'll get one half-assed alien NPC four years from now and a shuriken launcher (slightly retooled auto-pistol) and a spear (retooled pickaxe) to go with it.
>>553464853>If i dont play vet on h40 the pubbie vet is 50/50 a retard>If i dont play arbie the pubbie arbie is a guaranteed retard who is so high skilled that he manages to eat shit and die on a class that has god mode several times after rushing like a knife zealotBro how the fuck do these sub human retards have 40 clearance. I tried to play arbie after that and die but i couldn't do it even intentionally sasuga pubbie retards. Team unga
>>553509868I’m talking about plot development abd characters.
>>553510518WHO FUCKING CARES
>>553508439meanie
>>553509868what does fatshark even do all day in their office
>>553510858nothing, they're swedish and like every swedish development studio they do fucking nothing
>>553510518When have they ever made a meaningful update to one without the other? Fatshark has zero excuse for not licensing some D-tier GW-approved writer to put out weekly updates for engagement and they actively choose not to do this. They never, ever leverage optimized/shorter turnaround elements of their overall development pipeline to cover weaknesses. Their affiliate creator has a whole Youtube video about how concept artists just sit around during implementation (he presents this as a normal and good thing, necessary to development, btw.) The company is a retarded mess run by some moron who got one lucky licensing deal around the same time they gave the WH40K MMO to some Barbie Horse Adventure developer (i.e., would give it to anyone) to save his company from the embarrassment Lead & Gold 2 would have been.
>>553510858taking their mandatory 3 hour lunch break
>>553510670Calm down, tranny
>>553511128u r jew!
>>553508946>false equivalenceVague rumblings are not the same as open explicit mentionings. Like >>553509440 says there’s precedent for this with this writer too. You don’t have a leg to stand on, and I already said they’d be a story element at best so get that stick out of your ass. >they said it would be a human centered storyI’ve never heard of this, provide the source >muh space marine strawmanNot all Eldar are equivalent to space marines dumb lorelet. Nobody thought Arbites was going to get in either due to the reject theme and look what happened. I like how you tried fitting Ogryns in there like they aren’t monsters capable of manhandling space marines and not even human themselves. You don’t even read the retarded shit you type.
>>553510858
>>553509868>Darktide is barren by comparison to this point in VT2's development.There's someone maintaining a little cope comparison where they have a side by side between the games. The darktide side is filled with super notable changes like >Demonhost now only targets one playerwhile the VT2 side suspiciously skips things like the twitch mode addition and more. He also writes down every event in Darktide but none of the VT2 ones. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ayejEWpKL1RE3AK47sNlot1cW_1b-IurbgijVW_p10A/And the funniest part? Even with all the cheating he does by not mentioning VT2 updates and writing up shit for Darktide that's totally irrelevant, it's STILL sparse in comparison. Something really bad happened to Fatshark during Darktide dev or shortly after release
>>553510901Very based.
>>553511309Lol yeah sure I don't have a leg to stand on. Eldar in two weeks bros. The game JUST came out, just give it time! >>they said it would be a human centered story>I’ve never heard of this, provide the source Multiple interviews I don't feel like digging out because you're being an obnoxious cunt>Nobody thought Arbites was going to get in eitherDumbfuck, people were asking for it from almost day 1 and it was always appropriate. It was either going to be enforcers or arbites, and when they made enforcers cosmetics it became pretty clear.
>>553510858I hate thinking about it. It's probably largely quiet waste, but as someone with some experience working both on games and in chill tech offices, it's to such a degree that even I can't empathize at all. I have no idea how you wouldn't feel like some weird Twilight Zone shit was going on if you were working there. They get one map done in the same time studios release entire games, they don't have mass layoffs, there aren't that many seasonal employees, it makes no sense at all. If I were a more conspiratorial person, I would guess money laundering. But it's probably just as mundane as you just sort of fade into the quiet waste and forget how weird it is after a few months working there.
>>553511309>I like how you tried fitting Ogryns in there like they aren’t monsters capable of manhandling space marines and not even human themselves. You don’t even read the retarded shit you type.Nobody gives a shit, they're in the guard and they're subhumans often found among humans so they fit into the game's thematic. It's like you don't understand what thematical consistency means. Nobody is saying>urr urrr this game can't have Xit's that Fatshark won't do it because it's not thematically appropriate. It's a look at a hive city from a human perspective. There is nothing interesting they could add that relates to Eldars or anything else. Space Marines for example would be abundantly sensible in this story. Like they could totally put Space Marines in this too. I'm not saying they're equivalent to Eldar btw, I'm just saying they could 100% put a space marine in this if they wanted. They won't though because they don't want to. Same with Eldar. It seems to be you don't understand what the goal with Darktide was. It's very deliberate that all you ever see is humans, ogryns and some nurgle demons.
>>553511417Holy fuck that is pure copium, lmfao. There was an interview a while back that I don't care to source where someone there admitted how difficult working over covid was and it kind of sounded like an accidental vent as opposed to their usual PR-sanctioned disseminations of how hard it is to be a game developer. They had a couple very public attritions, including the lead combat designer who could potentially have been responsible for everything the games do indisputably well aside from music. I think they just lost enough talent and have enough tech debt that they could be fairly honestly described as not really understanding how to make meaningful content for the game efficiently.
>>553511043So you’re agreeing with me? I don’t see how that changes what I said. Abnett has ideas that we can likely predict for where he wants to take the story and characters, but that’s only possible if Fatshark enables him to do so.
vros is flamestaff balanced?
>>553512131yes because I suck with it
>>553512125No, I'm discussing. I haven't aligned myself with regard to your argument because I don't care about your oppositional defiance issues. The idea that Fatshark's competence is up in the air is a non-starter and the rest of whatever you're saying doesn't interest me.
>>553512131It's pretty heavy at the top
>>553512131not really
>>553511316kek'd (and saved, move over Aqshy)
>>553511316more
>>553512223>I haven't aligned myself with regard to your argument because I don't care about your oppositional defiance issues.translation: I am throwing a tantrum because my feelings got hurt, but I agree
>>553511560>strawmanLearn to read>uhh uhhhh uhhh they totally exist just trust me broThat’s what I thought >it was always appropriateIt wasn’t. If you knew anything about the setting you would understand why it was a shock given this games theme. >>553511806Your premise is faulty because they never said it was a human only show. The whole tagline of this game is “Rejects will rise”, and guess what that doesn’t describe? Arbites. Just because the game is primarily focused on humans doesn’t mean they can’t introduce other elements at any other point in time. They clearly aren’t beholden to a single theme.>Space Marines for example would be abundantly sensible in this storyThey wouldn’t be, actually.
>>553512962well sadly those pictures mysteriously disappeared from her FUCKING WORK ACCOUNT I guess she got a memo :^)
>>553513470the irony
>>553513987hmm seems like a pretty unique sindarin tattoo location thoe-detective bros?
>>553511316>>553513987wait who is this
>>553514263Yep. I just found her onlyfans
The retards sidestepping the fact that there would be practically no way to justify an Eldar class in the fucking Imperium hive ship game so that they can coom are also forgetting that Fatshart are unwilling to make attractive female characters.
>>553514360Our beloved Darktide CM and Telopots lover :)
>>553514385uhh un kebab double sauce stp chef
>>553513812>It wasn’t. If you knew anything about the setting you would understand why it was a shock given this games theme.And of course you can explain why arbites was a thematic shock after they repeatedly stated it was meant to be a human perspective on 40k> they never said it was a human only show.picthey've kept true to this so far, I don't see why they would suddenly shit on their own principles>They wouldn’t be, actually.If you say so. You're just replying to disagree at this point aren't you?
>>553514514now those are some bazooka talents i would take
>>553514515You don't want it. It's pretty disappointing
>>553514515Ta gueule, Jean-Mohamed
>>553514514>green eyes>red hair>huge titsI need to rape
>>553509868it was delayed because of darktide, and then darktide was delayed because of necromancer
>>553514673I survived Darktide early access, it should be fine.>>553514759someone else ITT is borrowing the dunce cap
>>553514730>scottishABORT! ABORT!
I want some milk now I don't know why.
ITT: raging retards simp over painfully mid dev who hates them and also looks fucking psychotic
>>553515010It started off with eldar simps, are you really surprised at how this thread is going?
>>553514590It was a thematic shock because Arbites are not rejects or anything close to it and opened the doors for more than just that. Them being human is not why.>picThank you. I’ll concede the point. Although I still stand by Eldar involvement in some other capacity being a distinct possibility due to Abnett’s presence like >>553509440 says (despite what he says there, Eisenhorn, the main character of those novels, can’t really be called a normal human and also collaborated with aliens throughout them).
>>553515010>devshe's a CM, retard, the most slutty creatures in the industry. You wouldn't believe the tings she could do to your meat with her feet alone.
I started playing WitchFire and you can't imagine how enjoyable it is to play a game that is really well made.
>>553515010>i've never hatefucked in my lifesorry to hear you lost at the starting line, maybe next spin of the wheel bro
>>553515213>It was a thematic shock because Arbites are not rejectsWe weren't rejects anymore when arbites showed up, we became inquisitorial agents in the story, got the inquisitorial rosette, and are auric operators who proved themselves and have access to extremely potent gear like relic blades. You seem to not actually understand darktides setting very well. The reject thing was always just a starting point.
>>553515010im not simping I said I want to rape her retard
>>553513987Since she was often on Telopots stream I wouldn't be surprised she lurks here as well
>>553514410>fucking Imperium hive ship gamewhat the fuck are you talking about
>>553515529jej
>>553515692it'd be a shame if someone continued to fill the thread with her lewds, in that case
>>553515010it's really their fault, if the creatures in game weren't so hideous we wouldn't have to thirst after the next nearest hole
>>553515358Correct, and yet the reject ‘stink’ is still on us as characters will frequently remind you of. We got a character that flies wholesale in that theme’s face completely is the bottom line, from beginning to end it’s a prestigious position to occupy and we can now play as them. That’s a pretty heavy shift in direction.
>>553515010These coop threads are always people bitching about the devs doing nothing or being "totally dead or near dead" when really NO ONE here has any clue what they're planning at all and are just bitching and moaning.It's always just bitching and moaning.
>>553515358>got the inquisitorial rosette>You seem to not actually understand darktides setting very wellPot, kettle
>>553516053>Correct, and yet the reject ‘stink’ is still on us as charactersTry wiping, that's just you. Just accept you don't understand the setting if you actually thought the reject shit mattered past the first couple missions.
Catfish plz if you read this know that I'm not like them I'm a virgin brahmin with good genes and very respectful of women plz plz
>>553515773I misspoke, I meant that the Mourningstar is allied with the Imperium and in-game visits Imperial territory (such as hive cities) and works to further Imperial goals. How the fuck can anyone expect an Eldar to be playable in that setting, even as a reject?
>>553514410Why do you need attractive characters to play a video game? It's the Imperium, the average person is basically a peasant. At best you get a plain face woman and that's your lot. All I hear is the bygone generation of 2000s teens going "waaaah they don't have bouncing anime titties to get me to buy crap!"God just shut the fucking fuck up. You might as well confess you don't give a shit and would happily surgically attatch your lips to the corpo slop machine if it means they milk your penis.Christ.
>>553516217It's just a shitty weapon trinket so you might've missed it. we're official members of the warband by the time the character is level 30.
>>553516403>reddit spacing
>>553516403I was pointing out that the people asking for an Eldar class want to jerk off, which is at odds with the fact that if Fatshark ever made such a thing, it would assuredly not be something conventionally attractive. Get off the soap box, retard.
>>553516403You talk like a liberal woman.
>>553514862Those are hot though
>>553516493That is just a shitty weapon trinket yes, not the Inq's actual rosette. They don't just hand those out to anyone in the retinue.
>>553516183Yeah how could we use their 12 years of public development history to make reasonable, zero-risk inferences about the future? The treasury cannot possible bear such a cost.>>553516403Yeah, like most men I would pay for something to milk my penis. It's just that right now, I'd prefer it be Catfish.
>>553516837They hand one out to every member, which is what it signifies, and a member of a warband isn't a shitty reject anymore. We of course dont get the inquisitor's own rosette which is what you mean
>>553516403Women literally only exist to be fucked by me, if they're ugly they have no point in living.
>catfish complaining about gamers in a scottish accent while giving you a lapdance>calls you a filthy rakki before puling out your dick
member when she used to put her selfies in every comm link?member when they used to communicate with us?
>>553516289Point still stands. We’re ‘rejects’ by theme even if that changes later on. We get to play as someone who isn’t that at all. You’re just being obtuse if you don’t see the difference.
how about Hedge giving you a lapdance?
>>553517119>We’re ‘rejects’ by theme even if that changes later on.No, anon, if it changes later on then it's not the theme anymore. I've never read anything as stubbornly retarded as the shit you're spewing out right now.
>>553517253>Behold! our discount clone of Yahtzee!
>>553517026CMs are notorious for self-promotion, and the entire field is handled in some ass-backwards way that filtered down from shitty early successes that likely had nothing to do with how the role was positioned. They hire nobodies willing to accept a fast food tier wage at the start of their career and give them access to an instant audience, which they then squander in an attempt to create some personal presence that they'll likely go on to monetize elsewhere or spin into an external promotion. It's such a shitty field and it could be so much better, so easily. Look at Warframe or even League (don't @ me about MOBA gameplay or whatever the fuck your autistic hangup is, that's not what I'm talking about) for examples of community investments done right.
>>553516402None of that precludes an Eldar from being playable. The reasons for one being unplayable are entirely unrelated to any of that.
>>553517253oh yeah this guy has the exact face i always imagined. almost everything i can remember him saying or doing made the situation worse. it's wild that they blamed the players. he was so obviously ill-suited for a public-facing role and when he wasn't being useless, he was actively antagonizing people and dragging out bad relations.
>>553516970>They hand one out to every memberThey don't. Rosettes aren't mass produced like that, just inquisitors get one. I get what you're saying that the rejects become full fledged members of the warband (nta you were arguing with, btw), but they do not get given a rosette. That is purely a cosmetic fatshark thought would be fun to add, not meant to be taken as lore that your dude has an actual rosette.
>>553515358yeah at this point we're an Inquisitorial kill squad
>>553517484It makes it extremely unlikely to the point of being fanfic-tier special snowflake bullshit, but I'll bite. Educate me.
>>553517026she's a little homely but i bet she sucks a mean dick
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>>553517657She's a Swedish game developer, I bet she sucks dick almost as good as the males on the team.
>>553516568>people asking for an Eldar class want to jerk offI don’tI just think it’d be cool >>553516856>I would pay for something to milk my penis.I wouldn’t
>>553515228>I want to buy Jade's game!
>>553517702desu this is probably one of the tamer things, tooi remember when the early access launch was being rightfully derided, he absolutely refused to make a simple "we know, we're sorry, we're working on it" post and made a bunch of excuses and put it back on the players, even at one point going as far as to explicitly say "it's fine, just don't make this game your life," continuing vaguely to suggest only people with no lives thought the game's content was lacking.
>>553517702Holy shit this is a bad response. On multiple levels.
>>553517805yeah you would, you probably haveit's just a matter of how you're paying for iti bet catfish is the secret use for melkbux
The server issues have gotten extremely bad.Why the fuck am I being randomly shoved off ledges, why are pox bursters warp speeding me into the face?Why are all these issues here that weren't here last patch? Are these retards taking advice from Arrowhead?
>>553517702
>>553518103lol, source?i have to hear whatever caused this reaction
So do you guys devolve to bitching about devs when there's nothing else to talk about?
>>553517563if Darktide is a canon game written by dan abnett and in darktide we get an inquisitorial rosette to carry around as members then that's just how it works isn't it? Wouldn't be the first time they retcon minor things
>>553518247and sex with female devsthey make some content and we'll have something to talk about, simple as
>>553518179>showcasing the first Destiny 2 expansion with Osiris>talking about how the new public event was going to have the best rewards ever>such better rewards than current public events>way better guys>playtester actually completes the hard mode of the event>opens the chest>2 tokens and a blue drop>current public events drop 1 token and a green or blue>his face>2 tokens and a blue became meme
>>553518247there used to be at least a dozen aqshy ear rape jokes in every single thread, the catfish stuff has always been comparatively tamewhich isn't surprising because aqshy was hotter
>>553517301So if we spend 30 whole levels (I.e. the main measurable bar of progression in the game) being called rejects and being constantly reminded we need to prove ourselves while being called trash and expendable but get one cutscene saying we’re now cool it’s no longer the core theme of the game? we’re just going to have to agree to disagree
>>553517637Educate you on what? Eldar will operate wherever and whenever they see fit, if a Farseer tells them they need to get down into the muck and grime of a hive world for their benefit then that’s what they’ll do
>>553518264>Wouldn't be the first time they retcon minor thingsit would be the first time they do it through a video game of all things pretty sure
>>553518479>So if we spend 30 whole levels (I.e. the main measurable bar of progression in the game) being called rejects and being constantly reminded we need to prove ourselves while being called trash and expendable but get one cutscene saying we’re now cool it’s no longer the core theme of the game?Correct. When things change they're not the same as before. Also it's not just the cutscene, we unlock increasingly valuable weapons to use. We prove ourselves in aurics. We even undergo some sort of mortis certification whatever the fuck that is. We also get enlisted by Dukane for havoc. "Reject" is not the main theme of Darktide anywhere but in the first couple cutscenes, which is like 1% of the game.
>>553517929His response to the beta preformance and bugs was 10000x worse.
>>553518264>we get an inquisitorial rosette to carry aroundBut you don't. I don't know how I can stress this enough, shitty cosmetics aren't lore. (Yourdude) does not have a rosette just because you have a little cosmetic trinket.
What's worse: Zola's face or Dukane's voice?
>>553519010>But you don't. I don't know how I can stress this enough, shitty cosmetics aren't lore.But they are though. I don't know what you're trying to say here. You're saying this isn't actually in the game and approved by GW and written by dan abnett? Because it is.. And given that all that is true how could it not be official? It's literally an official item, written by an official GW writer in an official WH40k game. You'd have to be coping pretty hard to say that's not canon. Kind of astounding. I feel like sometimes, 40k fans are just autistic and they think their setting is some sort of actual ancient biblical text when it's literally just made up on the go, shaped by the media in it.
>>553519650Right, so because there are Cyberpunk 2077 cosmetics in Death Stranding, that means they are the same universe? All the various games with silly cosmetics, all of that is lore?
>>553520450>but other gamewat?
>>553520450Comparing that in universe trinket to random promotional crossovers in OTHER GAMES is the height of dishonesty
>>553520794It's not. It's just a cosmetic innit senpai. Like the named character cosmetics in the slopshop. Like goofy cosmetics and crossovers in other games. It ain't lore you nignog
>>553519650>written by an official GW writerIs it though? Just saying but for we all we know Abnett doesn’t even know about the charms, I’d be surprised if they bothered him with minutiae like that and didn’t just check with GW directly or something
>>553521046>It's not. It's just a cosmetic innit senpai. Like the named character cosmetics in the slopshop. Like goofy cosmetics and crossovers in other games. It ain't lore you nignogone of these things is not like the others>>553521057He wrote all the item descriptions personally, I'm sure he was involved. Even then though GW greenlit it you're right
>>553521046Fatshark openly stated that certain cosmetics in VT2 were not allowed to be combined freely, disallowed by GW. Cosmetics are canon and they are checking them.
>>553521229>He wrote all the item descriptions personallyWhy is he such a lazy fuck then? THis exact description is on like half of zealot's equips
>>553521779dunno maybe he stopped at some point. Weapons all have cool soulful little descriptions on them at least, but I never did check the new ones
Today I am going to try and get this and I would welcome advice, tips, and anecdotes from the good-spirited, helpful members of the /coopg/ community.
>>553478314>They don't need to die from the DoTGod damn it, am I retarded for assuming as such
>>553522465Pretty sure I got this unintentionally just playing charge in aurics, if you want to cheese it you could play mortis on a dead server so you can solo and just hold off the horde until it gets dense enough.
>>553522465Back when this was still 130 or so, I got it on the train station assassination mission (the one that isnt magistrati oubliette). Near the start where you drop down to the tunnels. Those tunnels fill up with one long line of poxwalkersIf you're unlucky you have an arbites who just clears the entire tunnel. I don't know how you fix that nowadays. Back then I just asked people to let me charge the horde
>>553522797It was 100
>>553522765I've never been into a Mortis Trial before come to think of it.
>>553522465nigga you get this naturally just by playing on higher difficulties and charging down corridors
>>553523449I don't like running charge I like running taunt.
>>553522559I thought the same until people here told me. Makes it a lot easier to get the "hold max warp charges for 120 seconds" penance, at a 10% chance to get a warp charge for each guy on fire dying and the charges last 25 seconds each you can easily get it during a horde on heresy or higher. Took me a while because I kept wanting to use shriek to set the whole screen on fire and dumping all my charges.
>>553521229>one of these things is not like the othersHow?>>553521414>Cosmetics are canonSure, in that rosettes exist. If they were given to the rejects on becoming a warband member though there would be some mention of that in the last cutscene, or written reference or something, anything. But there's not, because rosettes are uniquely made for inquisitors, and the trinket is just a fun little cosmetic. Y'all are reading too much into it and/or feel like you're just stirring shit for argument's sake.
>>553523513What? The challenge is for bull rush.
>>553523781Can't rotate apples huh?
>>553523775>Y'all gross, nigger! but no, nobody is reading too much into it. The mental gymnastics are on your behalf. If we can wear it then it's by canon something we got
>>553524407I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR JOKE EXPLAIN IT TO ME (NOT THE APPLE ONE THE RUNNING TAUNT ONE)
>>553522559The talent text is ambiguous at best and actively misleading at worst, I'll never blame anyone for misunderstanding a DT description.
>>553524535I am saying that I will not get the bowling penance in normal play because I never run the charge aka bull rush power, I run the taunt instead, so I am trying to eliminate it now (which I just did a few minutes ago in Mortis Trials.)
>>553524407>>553524535oh wait you mean running taunt as in USING taunt ok but that's still stupid the challenge is for bull rush
>>553524676>>553524535>>553524675>>553524407but wait doesn't charge taunt also? or was it charge that taunts
>>553524675oh ok
>>553524852I use the taunt because it applies stagger to enemies and dmg buff for my allies among other things.
>>553464853Holy crap, Warrior Priest of Smegmar is actually broken, like contender for best career in the game. You wouldn't know this judging by how most people who play him don't even use 1% of his true potential. His damage and tankiness alone make him insane, and that's even before you even need to get into his healslut f key.
>>553524427You want to talk about mental gymnastics? Which is more believable.A)>GW/slopshark retcons a staple part of lore>with a tiny cosmetic in a literally who game>no reference in cutscenes/writing to this>also despite GW allowing games to abuse the lore before (see Fire Warrior, Hired Gun), this one trinket (and by extension, all cosmetics) are lore-bindingOr B)>Fartshart wanted to give the player a little =I= symbol as a fun little cosmetic>GW gave the tick of approval because rosettes are a thing in 40K>zero consideration was given to the lore implications cause ultimately GeeDubs don't actually care about the vidya and treat it like advertisement for their real breadwinnerIf you picked A with a straight face, I'd consider a grippy socket vacay.
>>553526562>>GW/slopshark retcons a staple part of lore>staple partnobody really gives a fuck about minor shit like this and it's not even a retcon, just an addition
>>553526061He's a deceptive class in that he actually has two skill floors. The first is just using him at a basic, reactive level, while the second is understanding how to use his abilities to preemptively stop catastrophes. Most people only ever reach the first stage, so they see him as a decent tank with good healing, but once you hit the second level you become an unkillable god, more than capable of handling everything in the game entirely by yourself.fuck now i wanna go play ratclick
>>553526562A: >You join the warband. You get this trinket. It's a sign of being a member of the warband. B>actually it's not part of the universe. It may be in the game and it may be there but it's not real. And even though all the other cosmetics are lore proofed by GW this one isn't. And even though you literally get this when you join the warband it has nothing to do with it. Cyberpunk has a yogi bear cosmetic so that's proof against it too. Yeah you're coping hard. Mental gymnastics
>>553526668It is a retcon for rosettes to be mass produced and handed to henchmen though, you lorelet. Like I said, they are uniquely made for each inquisitor. They have tech inside them that acts as something of a master key to imperial facilities and cogitators. They're a symbol of utmost authority, anyone who refuses orders from someone flashing a rosette can expect a blamming. They aren't just given to any old retinue member.
>>553526980>It is a retcon for rosettes to be mass produced and handed to henchmen though, you lorelet.No? it's like how each police department has its own badge design, but each cop gets a badge. There's no retcon we just never saw or heard of it before
>>553526880>You join the warband. You get this trinket.Yeah okay, so you're just trying to pick a fight.
What is this tranny arguing about?
>>553527098that's literally what happens in the game. rannick welcomes you as a proper member and then you get the trinket
>>553523775>But there's not, because rosettes are uniquely made for inquisitorsThis varies depending on source, here's the DH description saying that warband members can all wear the rosette, but there are also others that say rosettes are only for the big boy and holds the role of the Seal mentioned above.i can't be bothered to dig into the publication timeline to see which version is more recent or more official, but even if the DH version has since been superseded it's pretty easy to assume that FS just used it anyway because they love taking shit from the RPG sourcebooks.
>>553527053>>553527217Lorelets, or just trying to argue. Pick your poison
>>553527305thanks for digging anon, I wanted to say this too but I did not remember where I read it so I refrained>>553527349very funny post from a wiki directly after someone posts official info, lol. It seems like you lost, sorry.
>>553527305Anyone can be given and wear the rosette, this happens in multiple stories when an inquisitor wants to give their authority to a retinue member/not be present for a meeting where it might be needed. But new rosettes are only made and given to inquisitors.>>553527421The info in DH does not contradict what I've been saying. I'm so tired of the stupid argument-picking in this general, give it a rest.
>>553527349>>553527661>The info in DH does not contradict what I've been saying.>just trying to argue I hate how people always jump to this shit immediately when in any argument. Like you are literally proven wrong by DH material, but in your mind you could NEVER be wrong and anyone who tells you that you are is a disingenuous cunt right?Yes, the DH thing DIRECTLY contradicts what you said. It proves that the rosette is handed out to members.
>>553527421NP, I just had a vague memory of it being mentioned in DH.>official infoehhhh the FFG games were oftentimes looser than the first party lore and bits from them have been retconned, especially since FFG lost the license they're in a bit of a limbo canon-wise
>>553527730Turn your brain on, for once. Please.>can be wornIs not the same as being supplied with a fresh brand spanking new rosette. The inquisitor can choose to give their rosette to retinue members and that is allowed within the Inquisition, but they only have one to give around.
>>553527349>>553527661Dude nobody is "argument-picking" you were just wrong. You lost. Get over it. You are the only one keeping this "argument" alive by insisting on a falsehood
>>553527970Okay, show us in actual lore where it says every chuddy in the Inquisition gets a rosette.
>>553528106It was literally posted but you are so mentally ill and coping so hard you think it says that an inquisitor takes his own rosette off and displays it on random jeeps. You are too far gone nigger. You live for these retarded arguments. Do something else with your time you fucking nigger energy vampire. Last (YOU)
>>553528106Sure here you go.>smaller rosette or similar seal of the inquisition
>>553528504>may entrustAgain with us just butchering the english language. This doesn't confirm anything about retinue henchman getting their own rosette, just that the inquisitor can lend them their rosette or other badges of office
>>553528308>an inquisitor takes his own rosette off and displays it on random jeepsAnd the hostile lorelet shows his true colours. Read some BL, this literally happens multiple times
>>553528848>with a smaller rosetteSmaller than what, do you reckon? Dude you really need to let go. This is really embarrassing
>>553528504This guy won the argument with this post btw.
>>553528504based lore knower putting this to rest
I know they havent done an unarmed type of weapon before but how feasible would it be for ogryn? Shivs already have the animations sorta so just do some shit and make it on ogryn. Theres already uppercuts and straight jabs (that one straight punch with the club) for special actions. Make them metal fists. Ain't no way GW would have an issue with that.>spikes on front for single target mark>blades on bottom for aoe mark>pseudo-crunch passive like crowbar>slop cosmetic for bare fist/brass knuckles/fucked up augmented hands>fuck it claws and exclusive hand ink toThis is the only opportunity to really make an unarmed style work because of all the characters they've done in either game only an ogryn could actually deal with hordes and enemies like this unarmed or with fist weapons. Shivs/duel daggers are so close to God's intended way of dispatching his enemies.
>>553528504I do hope you understand you're helping out the resident threadshitter, btw
>>553529371Izzat post.
>>553528504You just cream-pied that tranny's ass to the motherfucking brim with this slam dunk of a post
>>553526061no lol he doesn't do enough damage to justify his lack of ranged unlike grail knight
>>553528990>Read some BL Yeah you did seem like the kind of guy who reads boy's love novels
>>553529327Power fists exist for a reason. They could easily give those to ogryn.
>>553529371Anon, if you were wrong all along and arguing about something you were wrong about, and when presented with proof you whine that it's proof that helps "the wrong guy" then maybe YOU'RE the threadshitter. I wonder what happened to Hegelian Diacletics. You know when you have an exchange that goes>I think X>no, I think Y>but I think it's X because..>that can't be and I still think it's Y because...until you eventually find the truth of the matter? I think that's pretty cool. I think it's incredibly gay that nowadays every single online discussion turns into>you disagreed with me once, therefore you are my mortal enemy, acting in bad faith, and indian
>>553529327Ogryns even talk about how they like killing with their fists the most>shooting heretic is good, but mashing heretic with fists is like reward
>>553529510His damage is actually really high if you can land headshots. He can easily delete patrols and has great burst damage with his sledgehammer.
>>553517702He really could have just said "We wanted to have weapon modding in the game, but it didn't work out when we got to the alpha stage and realized it was going to be way too much work to get the feature fully functional by the release window"frankly they should have released the game under Early Access and it would have resolved so many of the early complaints
>>553529614Ogryns aren't getting power fists retard, they have pneumatic fists in Necromunda and that's the best they'll ever get
>>553529914I'm not saying hedge wasn't an annoying faggot but the guy was asking for a snarky response the way he phrased that asshurt post. Hedge probably figured "this is just some random rude kid so I'll own him" while not considering that this is an actual legitimate, burning question many people have, just phrased rudely. You notice that a lot with CM types, they forget what their purpose is (exchanging information)
>>553529680And yet, beyond one trinket in a vidya game full of goofy cosmetics, you can't show me a single instance of a henchman being given their own rosette.
>>553530043why not
>>553465504>Kayex>carryKayex is the most irritating fuck in the game.
>>553530208because ogryns have never been trusted with power weapons unless they get servitorized to possess barely enough mental capacity to use them properlyeven a Bone'ead ogryn is probably so colossally retarded he'd always forget to switch on the power setting and just use a power fist as a blunt weapon
>>553530171>no it doesnt count when it happens ingame, show where it happens in the lore>ok it happens in the lore but you can't show me when it happens ingame>okay but not that one! I don't see how this productive so I'll passI can't wait for someone who cares more than me to post something from rogue trader or something like that and then seeing your fourth goalpost move, though. Do you get off on being humiliated?
>>553530316pre-servitor opinion
>>553530316Soulless
>>553530171>a vidya game full of goofy cosmetics,All the cosmetics in DT are canon and lore-approved though, we even have multiple instances of things people want but aren't happening because of that, because they're so anal about the lore. You're making it sound like you can wear beach volleyball skins in Darktide
>>553530503Tldr: you have no sources to back yourself up
>>553529869>>553529327It’s just one of those obvious things that should have been in the game by now but isn’t because ???
>>553530647Right, so all those named characters we can dress up as are all on Atoma fighting for Grendyl?
>>553530651see >>553528504>okay but I mean in gamessee >>553516493>>553530798name one reason they couldn't be. I really don't get what your problem is. Do you just love to argue even though you know you're wrong? Izzat hurt much?
>>553530729right now all the weapon devs are working on new classes, the third class of course being cryptic, whatever the hell that codename is supposed to stand for. Eventually they'll get around to doing some proper weapon updates for the core 4 classes, but right now DLC is bringing back the playerbase that abandoned it after the dogshit launch so Fatshark is going all in on that.A trusted source tells me that everyone disappointed with Hive Scum won't be with the next class
>>553465504Ehhh DT has some stinkers but Rannick and Morrow are great too. What little we’ve seen of Grendyl himself is very intriguing too and I always pay attention when he’s speaking
>>553530837Again, those DH snippets are not saying that retinue are given their own rosettes. We've been over this, you are stretching the language used to suit whatever stupid point this is.>name one reason they couldn't beCan't remember them all off the top of my head but pretty sure there's one necromunda named character in there, who simply wouldn't be over on Atoma. The cosmetics arent meant to be taken so literally, and by continuing to izzat psot you've confirmed you're the retard who constantly stirs arguments in these threads.
>>553531580>We've been over this, You ignored >>553529156
>>553530798no, the named characters in the outfit descriptions are all dead, some of them were never part of the warband, some of them were. Regardless, Hallowette and her cronies ran their pockets and robbed the clothing off their corpses, that's what all the paid cosmetics have in common
>>553531580>Can't remember them all off the top of my head but pretty sure there's one necromunda named character in there, who simply wouldn't be over on Atoma.So you can't name a reason> The cosmetics arent meant to be taken so literally, Why not? >and by continuing to izzat psot you've confirmed you're the retard who constantly stirs arguments in these threads.Dude you literally got proven wrong 3 times in a row but you're still arguing. YOU ARE THE IZZAT POSTER. Everyone knows you're wrong, even you know you're wrong but you won't stfu about how you're actually right because *vague vibe & honor based explanation*
Yes. Lore posting is off-topic and this argument proves it
Do not engage with debate bros. They do not care what they argue about. They do not care about what "side" they are on. They just want to waste everyone's time. Do not engage.
No no actually you see the cosmetics are all just noncanon and Fatshark putting in whatever they want. Ignore that GW literally forced them to remove things in the past (like shirtless)
I hate this penance so much it's unreal. Anyone recommend a build for this that uses Feel No Pain? I already finished the Bonebreaker's Aura penance.
Why do Stormvermin patrols sound like this?
>>553531815A smaller sized rosette. That's literally it, they usually come fairly pocket sized but this is just emphasising that an inquisitor might not entrust their retinue with a big fancy one.>>553531940Please just post one (1) instance of an inquisitorial henchman who has their own rosette. That's all you need to "win". If it's a part of lore it shouldn't be hard at all, just one non-inquisitor named character who owns a rosette.
>>553532474use the karsolas pick or h1 spam on shield for this
>>553532474>Feel No Pain>Heavy Hitteryou can only choose one, anon
>>553532547Oh my bad, I conflated Feel No Pain with Stay Close!
>>553532494>A smaller sized rosette. Anon, you dodged the question. Smaller than what? What is it being compared to when it says "a smaller inquisitorial rosette"? I'll answer it for you: The original. It's smaller than THE rosette the inquisitor has, and it's given to his acolytes. Now isn't it crazy that when we hit level 30 in Darktide and prove ourselves as a loyal acolyte and get accepted, we get a trinket that is literally a smaller rosette?
>>553466346I'm VT2 > DT (never played it lol)But isn't this wrong technically? Like don't certain shielded weapons require best in slot charms at minimum to stun Plague Monks and Chaos Warriors out of attacks? I'm pretty sure it's true for Foot Knight at least.
>>553532474Something like this with karsolas pickaxe with headtaker and slaughterer
>>553532494>Please just post one (1) instance of an inquisitorial henchman who has their own rosette.Darktide depicts them getting one>inb4 NO NO IT HAS TO BE FROM A DIFFERENT GAME... I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY BUT IT JUST DOES
>>553532532H1 spam on shield is really good or something?
>>553532486This meme is all your base are belong to us tier unc btw
I’m here to throw grenades
>>553532885Do bleeds from Batter have a chance of cucking me for heavy attack kills?
>>553532684Smaller than other rosettes, dipstick.>>553532893Named character, not faceless video game mook. I'll keep waiting, shouldn't be too long right? If what you say is true there should be a bunch of characters in lore with rosettes who aren't inquisitors
>>553532910Yeah, it seems unassuming but it's super fast and shits out damage, you spam it by just blocking after H1 to repeat. Use brutal momentum and skullcrusher
>>553532910H1 you punch the shield out at head height, H2 you back hand the shield across your body that does knockback. H1 is a nice straight line, aim at heads with brutal momentum to take out a bunch of enemies at once. Block cancel to do H1 for horde clear, use H2 if you need to make some room.
>>553533092>Smaller than other rosettes, dipstick.So you just admitted there's multiple rosettes and acolytes and shit get small versions of them. Congrats, you accidentally just conceded the argument. No coming back from this I'm afraid.
>>553532613ah I see. Yeah I'd just start left, detour to middle for Stay Close and then go left again for Heavy Hitter. It's not as much of a tax as it seems because it sets you up to take Attention Seeker, No Pushover, and Bruiser, which I usually take even when I hard commit to the Heavy Hitter branch, so I'd be spending those points there anyways
>>553533040Yes, you can skip the bleed talents if you really want to
>>553533092>If what you say is true there should be a bunch of characters in lore with rosettes who aren't inquisitorsNo actually that doesn't follow. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. What I say is true because I cited an official GW source stating it. Cope, nigger
>>553533235There are smaller and larger, all given to inquisitors. Now, name a character>>553533346>if thing exists in lore there wouldn't be any mentions in lore!Get on them grippy socks my dude
>>553533452>There are smaller and larger, all given to inquisitors.So why can specifically a smaller sized rosette be given to acolytes, but not the larger ones? Loving your desperate last stand here.
>>553532910H1 basically magnetizes to heads. You have to go out of your way to not hit everyone in the head, and it has a gajillion cleave and stagger.
>>553533110>>553533165>>553533569Awesome, I'll give it a go once I get 20 mastery on the pick (which will absolutely happen well before 5000 heavy hitter kills.)
>>553533556Someone like a lord inquisitor with a big fancy rosette as befitting of his higher status is less likely to lend that out to retinue. On the flip side, if an inq has a smaller one that's able to be concealed nicely, that's more of a reason they might be willing to. In lore, it's usually also the interrogator who would be entrusted with the borrowed rosette, but there are instances of the muscle carrying it into dangerous situations to pose as the inquisitor, putting their necks on the chopping block while said inquisitor is safely out of the spotlight. Hope this all helps!Now, name a character. Just one...
>>553533891take the L dumbfuck, he's got photo lore evidence and you've got headcanon
>>553530927Mechanicus 2 is slated for April/May, so it's quite possible we get 0 new content besides the the new class for the next 6 months.>>553532910Best single target and stagger attack. Think it has about 10 mass cleave, so Brutal Momentum helps a ton in Auric and below.
>>553533840I really like the karasolas for missions where you expect a lot of ogryns. The special hook trips them and rips bulwark shields, and the follow up heavy is a nice single target strikedown from above.
>mission going very well>smooth entire run even in really dicey moments>right before extracation happens people get sloppy and everyone goes downmemes for this feel?
>>553533891Great laugh thanks. I only hope you aren't serious. If so that's fucking sad and I hope you get help
>>553533891Here's a character, your mother.
Rosettes, rosettes, rosettes. I'm tired of hearing about rosettes! Rosettes this, rosettes that. Now the word sounds weird, fuck you.
How mentally ill do you have to be to see something happening in a game, like the inquisitor giving the player a rosette, and then you're like >i dont like that. i need to find a way to make this not canon with mental gymnastics
>>553534040
>>553534679>the inquisitor giving the player a rosetteHonestly, how is this supposed to happen when Grendyl isn't even present? Rannick's the most likely to have one and he hasn't even met Grendyl in person ever.
>>553530729>>553530963>>553530927True enough>>553532914Is that bad
>>553534793Rannick is in charge officially while Grendyl is supposedly stuck in traffic, no?
>>553533891>bunch of made up fake shittake the L bub
>>553534793>and he hasn't even met Grendyl in person ever.We don’t know that
>>553534994Yeah, Rannick is Grendyl's agent, Zola and gang are Rannick's agents and the rejects/players are Zola and gang's agents, so we're pretty far down the line. There's the theory Grendyl's actually on the ship, but for as much as that matters to any of the characters, he might as well not be. Rannick and gang do have inquisitorial seals according to Zorin from the memory echoes, I don't know if that means rosettes though.
>>553519650Not weighing on in the convo but you do have to apply your own sense of logic when it comes to 40k adaptations and pick and choose what does and doesn’t make sense. In Rogue Trader for example you can outright kill Abaddon the Despoiler iirc, but we know Abaddon is obviously alive and well in the actual universe, so it’s just something you ignore. Not saying this is necessarily one of those cases but you still have to use critical analysis usually.
>>553535195We do, in fact, know that. You should listen to the mortis trial echoes more.
>>553535367Don't bother, the threadshitters love to twist words whichever which way they can to "win" arguments, they get off on just throwing incorrect drivel into the thread because it gets a rise out of people. Then they just keep the argument going until they have the last say.
>>553535367>you can outright kill Abaddon the Despoiler iirc, but we know Abaddon is obviously alive and well in the actual universeTo be fair, he's got his own fucking sorcerers who interfere with daemons all the time, you can probably kill him and his soul won't get gobbled up, so they can just rebuild him after he dies. Obviously not something that has ever happened though, because it'd mean he wouldn't have Horus' power claw anymore.
>>553534989It means nopony under 29 will get it cuz nopony was watching the gen 3 pokemon anime. They (people ITT) were too busy surviving the evolutionary bottleneck and receiving good parenting and guidance which will guide them into being strong, functioning, humans. Those who would get said maymay all also escaped the bottleneck by evolving past this site and becoming real adults with families who have no time for dead Vietnamese gambling sites. You're a god. He's a subhuman. Understand?
>>553535658>no "take the L bro"-esque replies to this postHuh, guess the jannies came through and collected up the trash
>>553535658Take the L, bro
You'll never guess what I named my Arbitrator...Dredd! Like Judge Dredd!You see, they have a similar helmet.No one has noticed this similarity but me. I am very clever.
>>553539873Yeah this except completely unironically and for real, except replace arbiter with hive scum, and replace judge dread with a play on George floyd or fentanyl Holy fuck i am so clever and smart and funny, holy shit, oh my god
>>553541120Seething nigcel
nothing like fighting the twins while leveling to make you alt f4 the game
>bring krak grenades to havoc 25>team wipes because no one knows how to deal with twin boss and one million gunners >bring smoke grenades to havoc 25>we winhuh
>>553539873I was in a heresy game with an arbit named Dredd but he was dogshit.
>>553539873I wonder how common it is, I've seen it so many times. I just named mine PickUpThatCan.
>>553535658You lost, tranner.
>>553466006I just wish the personalities made more references to your back stories some simple shit >working in the mines your whole life>lights out condition>charchter says something like "This is nothing compared to scrapping ore in the tunnels."or>One character is from Rocyria>others just bash on them for being backwards>"Whats smarter a Rocyrian or their Grox" Anything to make the personality choices mean anything.
>>553545629They were never meant to mean anything because the entite system was obviously cooked up in like a week as a replacement for unique characters.
>>553534040>doing first havoc 30 in a while>hastily assembled team, no sitting in party finder for hours bullshit>doing very well, feels like auric>reached the entrance to the final room>zealot says "just don't spread out now, stay close">he immediately breaks off from the team and rushes to the right before we clear the entrance>decide to follow him>we are doing fine but the other 2 guys (psyker and ogryn) didn't follow and went to the left>turn my gaze away from zealot for a second to try and revive psyker (I'm on scum with revive speed), zealot somehow dies immediately, before I can get to them, ogryn goes down>shitload of crushers and ragers and some to flamers, can't pull off revive, decide to kite and whittle them down until respawn>all this time I'm on ranged scum with no ammo because unfortunately zealot last hitted all elites and denied me pickpocket>manage to kill a rager and get some ammo, have good progress on the horde, but there are many crushers and bulwarks with other shit mixed in so I don't want to face it alone>party respawns, as a scum I have shitload of stamina so I'm not worried, go for revive>revive ogryn, somehow the moment he gets up, I get instadowned by ragers because auto block from revive stopped working>realization>it's over in seconds
>Me good>team bad>OOGA BOOGA>SHIT PANT>SCREAMDIS TEEEEEAAAAAAMMMMMM SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEtru story
>>553547663Incredible storytelling, such detail, such passion, it's almost like I was there!
>>553547663i was the team
I am so fucking sick of the average playerbase in this game its driving me fucking insane. Up and down from 24-23 all day Sunday. I cant solve EVERY scenario for some of these retards. GET IN THE FUCKING FIGHT. The players throughout 20s are more concerned with treating it like its fucking auric or simply floundering about than progressing the game state. May they all die violently.
i have no respect for you if you use mods. it just shows that you need to be handheld through the game. or in the case of things like the scoreboard, you are ruled by your insecurities. mod users are fags. i've said my piece.
>>553548495now it's monday which means hopefully fewer gamer dads and turbo normies
>>553548675Nah, scoreboard is good for analysing your own performance when seeking to improve.>what about everyone elseDon't care, I compete only with my best self.
>>553548675Mod user hereI'm better than you
>>553548675Healthbar mod is the only one that's cheaty as fuick
>>553550163>not spider sense
>>553550635wouldn't know, never seen or used it because it sounds overtly cheaty and not just cheats-in-disguise health bar that people will be coy about
>>553550761It throws up a direction indicator for certain enemy types within a certain range
>>553550635Health bars are worse
>>553550163Healthbar is great because it specifically lets me watch and wait so I can land the killing blow on every single special or elite (You) engage. Sorry, sorry, it's just that I'm not gonna stop doing it is all ahahahahahaha
>>553550942I'd say having eyes in the back of your head is worse. You can tell people have it on because they'll go wait by doors randomly, snap into random directions for no discernable reason and make improbable disabler dodges.
>>553551082>they'll go wait by doors randomlyaudio cues>snap into random directions for no discernable reasonaudio cues>make improbable disabler dodgesaudio cuesIt's really not hard. Fucks sake, does nobody have functioning ears anymore or what?>inb4 muh silent enemiesA vastly overblown issue that shitters use to obfuscate their own shortcomings.
>>553551330Not everyone has surround sound
>>553551330I would wager most of the playerbase has the game on mute and just vibe.
>>553535281Who’s Zorin?>>553535412We do? Is it on YouTube?
>>553551082Idk, you constantly have to deal with shitload of disablers so your brain starts ignoring the indicator.Maybe it's just me, I can't process this much visual information and overloading my senses is the worst thing for me. I always rely on sound in every game, good thing audio in darktide is flawless.Meanwhile healthbars is very straightforward and easy to use indicator of elites and specialists
>>553551458Zorin's the Arbites representative. Yes, it's all on Youtube so you don't have to play the game mode. Look up mortis trial memory echoes, they should come right up.
>>553551447>Not everyone has surround soundIf they're playing on PC (and thus, actually able to download mods for shopclick), then I would assume they're using headphones. I guess there might be some small audience remaining that uses other audio sources, but there's no doubt headphones are by far the biggest chunk of players.>>553551449I genuinely hate to admit that this is also plausible, I mean I am truly loathe to admit it, but it is what it is. With that being said, the point I was trying to make is that all of the actions anon claimed were tells for mods are both common and easy for players to do vanilla.
Havoc busted for anyone else? Got 3 full party crashes in a row trying to run my assignment. Pretty fucking infuriating shit. I assume something related to the head tentacles is fucking things up, fucking ridiculous that they can't be bothered to run even a single mission using these modifiers to make sure they work properly before deploying them.
>>553551728>there's no doubt headphones are by far the biggest chunk of players.LOL!Pretty sure the biggest chunk of players are casual retards playing in retard difficulties on their shitty TV speakers because they're on console.
Why has no one made a psykanium mod that let's me test shit out with havoc hp pools and havoc modifiers Im so confused as to what's actually effective or not in rotten armor because I have no way to actually test and see if what I'm doing is effective or not other than going purely off of vibes, which is also hard to do because it takes an entire team effort to deal with it so it's hard to gauge single effort
>>553551447most people have a functioning gaming headsetbut even a stereo speaker setup is good enough, speaking from experience.
>>553551856They're just tankier versions of their usual armor types. If it works against a crusher, it works against a rotten crusher. The only thing you're not hitting is breakpoints, but nothing hits breakpoints against rotten armor anyway.
>>553551842... Anon, follow the conversation. If they're playing on console, then they are entirely irrelevant to this discussion because they by definition are unable to use mods as cited by >>553551082It doesn't matter what consoleniggers are using because they simply are not privy to this topic. I even specified that I was talking about PC players in the portion of my post immediately preceding what you highlighted.
>>553551998I think you fucked up your (You)s a bit
>>553552067No, I'm pretty sure I was right. >>553551082 is referring to the Spidey Sense mod.
>>553551856there is a havoc 40 psykanium mod, i've seen youtubers showcase itnot sure if it includes modifiers
>win assignment>you have failed your assignment>3 pips>highest assignment completed: 40ok
>>553554220Once you get to 40, it's impossible to change rank unless you choose to actively demote it for whatever reason.
>>553554460I know but I won the assignment and Dukane said I failed, but it still counted.
>>553554515Yeah, fatshark just never made a proper screen to reflect it. Classic Sweden moment.
>>553554220On which subject>melk assignment: 3 missions without player death>havoc fucking 40>no death, no big deal, ez +1, win first try even>auric>impossible, insurmountable challenge because some retard always just tanks every disable and also dies to poxwalkers>can't herd cats and babysit 3 retards at the same time because they always split up>unironically have better odds doing this with botsI hate darktards so much
>>553548878You don't need the scoreboard mod to improve either.Figuring out proper builds is easy and it' easy to get the right blessings just from reading forums.Playing the game is even easier, just kill the enemies and avoid taking damage yourself.
>>553556934Declined.
>>553557056Not an issue because I don't play with randoms.
>>553556934>You don't need the scoreboard mod to improve either.But you do need some sort of tracking mod to gauge exactly how useful certain things are.It may be easy to tell that Voltaic Mandibles slightly more than doubles your dog's damage and stuns enemies it hits, but it's extremely difficult to objectively gauge how much damage Razor-Jaw Augment does over the course of a game, and it's even harder to create realistic conditions to test this with in the meat grinder.Doing a couple runs with only VMA and seeing it's expected to deal 80~100k DoT, and then adding RJA and seeing the DoT just about more than double, is as close as it gets to being objective. You obviously can't easily account for how many kills it actually enabled, or whether it got any breakpoints, but bigger number is bigger number.>Figuring out proper builds is easy You'd think so, but using Arbitrator as an example again, seeing Soulguilt Scan + Target the Weak (the two skills you must take else your build is bricked) isn't even a thing in auric, and still not a given even in havoc.>it' easy to get the right blessings just from reading forums.This isn't true either. I'd count gameslantern and plebbit as forums, and the suggestions they make are frequently extremely retarded. This place also makes retarded suggestions all the time. Youtubers cherry pick and lie for views all the time, so you can't even trust their havoc 40 runs as "proof" that something is truly good or optimized either, just that it's good enough to work. It's an extremely sad state of affairs when Reginald of all youtubers is one of the few that actually bothers to collect data and tries to present something close to objectively correct. Which isn't to glaze him, but to point out just how fucking pathetic this "community" is.>TL;DRIf it were so easy, plebbit wouldn't be moaning about havoc being too hard all the time.
>>553557629so many words. Can you rephrase this post using a reaction image?
>>553557704>Can you rephrase this post using a reaction image?Sure
>>553555292I've found that I struggle the least with that melk task when I spam rolling steel, orthus offensive might work pretty well, too.If you're a big melk enjoyer here's another tip: the story missions I-IV have mostly scab faction and the V-VIII ones have mostly dreg, for the assignments where you need to kill those.
>>553558106Yeah Rolling Steel is the best for deathless runs, for sure.Also great tip about the story missions, though I would personally advise to just reroll those assignments if you have the cash. They may give a lot of melkbux, but they're also really annoying to do.I usually do>8 missions completed>1-3 deathless>plasteel>diamantine>monstrosity killsbecause those can be completed on any mission with any build.
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>>553558387pew pew pew
Let me in...
Returning player her, what's the vet loadout for h40 nowadays? is it still DS+ plasma goon + krak + shout + focus fire?
>>553558930Nyo :3
>>553501683>>553501082>>553500451>>553500107>>553501952Interesting. This is way more info than I was expecting on their pre-fall selves. I can see why you think they outmatch DAoT humanity. It never occurred to me that their post-WiH would be stronger but it does make sense since they were free to take their time to learn things. Thanks for explaining.
>>553559014pretty much
>>553559247wew tywhat if I don't want to use the plasma gun?
>>553559374honestly imo personally for me as long as you have a gun that can kill specialists i don't care what you bring tbhwy
>>553559014A lot of people prefer the power sword now, and frags are sometimes picked over kraks.>>553559374Recon lasgun is an option, or a grenade focused build with lethal proximity bolt pistol.
>>553559525>>553559856Helbore? :3
>>553559875It's uncommon. But if you can aim, sure.
>>553560016I'm a crackshot, Sir!
>>553559875plap
>>553508206>>553507838>>553501952trust the plan…
>>553508206...so you can play as a radical, yes. As far as we know, Grendyl is not.>>553562749Prepare to be disappointed...
>*DING DING DING*HAVOC>*DING DING DING*HAVOK>*DING DING DING*HAVOQUE?EU4944749582will wait for 5 to 10 minutes and if nobody joins im playing armored core, no wayyyyyyy im playing with 3 randos WHO SUCK BUTT
>>553510670>thirdie meltiekino
>>553536962
Guys. Please. Stop using randomized names. Have a drop of creativity.I have seen so many Ambres, Saldars, Dickots, and Haveloches that I sometimes don't even realize they are players. It's a good thing the frames exist.
>>553558387Cute!>>553563392What is she a patriot of…?
Is zealot's crusher any good?
>>553565527is ok.
What in the fuck is this shit, sweden
>>553565969>click close>mission continues lolI've had this happen a couple times. I suspect it has to do with the game (or server?) thinking you're simultaneously in 2 games at once, because your previous matchmaking attempt failed and something fucked up. Then the previous, failed matchmaking attempt never fully aborts, but maybe the mission continues, then ends, and kicks you out of matchmaking, giving you this screen.Pure speculation, but I assume it's pure Sw*de jank.
>>553564972>only character I didn't random was cum>only ever once seen a duplicate of one of my 4 randomed
>>553564972I named myself herbert because the stache my characted had screamed Herbert
>>553565527No, it's offensively mediocre: Worse as a skullcrusher applier than shock maul, worse as a 2hand weapon than relic blade and thammer, and worse as a zealot unique than the other zealot uniques because arbitrator stole it.
>>553508439I have a mild headache, so the only missing Imperial factions I can think of are Adeptus Mechanicus (I'm guessing they're next due to all the AdMech vidya stuff releasing in the future), Administratum (Scribe/adept in a FPS? How would that work), Assassinorum (Temple Assassins are near Astartes tier, so I think it's unlikely), and Ministorum/Ecclesiarchy (Sisters of Battle? I could see it happening at some point).I'm not counting Sisters of Silence, Custodes, or Astartes because they're astronomically unlikely.Did I miss any?
>>553565527It doesn't do enough single target damage.
>>553550761I'll play my game and you can worry about yours, ok champ?
fucking niggers
>VT2>can hear any and all specials at all times thanks to the audio design and never feel like it wasn't my fault when I get hit by a disabler>Darktide>Can't hear shit and all of the special audio is drowned out by random noises and constant dialogue from a bunch of poorly written characters that no one cares aboutyeah I'm installing spidey sense and I don't care if you think I'm cheating lol they should design the game better
>>553570957ok cheater
>>553571102Hey little girl it's ok that you need training wheels no need to justify yourself :)
>>553571102the audio issue in darktide is greatly exaggerated
>>553571802no
>>553571335Out of 10!
>>553568696Assassinorum agents are either on par with or significantly above the average Astartes in most cases with the exception of maybe Vindicares, or at the least the four main temples are, they’re very much not happening, especially when you remember all the unique weapons they’d have to get
>>553571102Nah people whined about silent hookrats and pink rats in VT2 all the time, this is retrospective cope
>>553571102I'd use a mod that replace Masozi's voice with an AI-generated non-Indian.
>>553572759Even bigger issue is that assassins would genuinely solo every fucking mission in the game. Like a single eversor assassin is just basically a human blender.Also nevermind that how assasssins are designed, they 99% of the time, they work alone on their assignments. Assassin strike teams do sometimes happen, but those are extremely rare.
>>553573528I have a mod that just removes all dialogue from the game.
is martyrdom based or cringe?
>>553573724Is dumdum poopoo or peepee?
>grail knights every gamekek why is this shitty career so popular
>>553573847because it's a knight and it does alot of damage and lore-wise GK is probably stronger than everyone else except for Sienna
>>553573724right in the middle
>>553573847>high hp>murders elites and bosses at the press of a key>cool sword wielding knight mangee I wonder why anon
>>553573847The "crusader helmet" plays into it ontop of what anons already mentioned
>>553573985>>553574589>>553574641its not really that good anymore after the nerfs and specials killed are the only green circles that matter
>>553574720>specials killed are the only green circles that matterLOL
>>553574896>the only actual threat in the game isnt the most important metric when it comes to killsmeanwhile teams with gk, wp and some other retard using a shitty ranged weapon all run in fear from the single blightstormer they cant reach because the only guy with a gun is dead
>>553575314Specials killed doesn't matter if you complete the mission. Specials killed matters if the GK is bad and gets disabled while everyone else is down.
>>553572759Even Vindicare assassins have beaten Scout Marines before, *and in melee* at that, they’re pretty grossly out of line with what the intention of this game is
unbelievable, crash right after we extractedanyways, gg anon was fun like always but i gtg now, we can play again another time for sure, take care
A space marine would wipe the floor with our entire squad, an assassinorum agent would paint the floor with our entire squad.
>>553576012*throws krak grenade at space marine's face*nothing personnell, karker
>>553575612insane mental gymnastics
>>553576119>staggers>takes like 20% damage>FE CADIA!>staggers>KRAK OUT>staggers>KRAK OUT>staggers>KRAK OUT>staggers>zealot is finally done charging his spirit bomb>BONK
>>553575981Lmao, should still count for progression anyways, I believe there's a mission completion failsafe timer for this exact thing now.But anyways, thanks for the games anon. Fun as always and take care
>>553575314>blightstormerAssassin, hook rat, gas rat, lifeleech, and gun rat are the only specials that matter.
So are the Swedes back in the office or what? Can we get some fucking updates on the trillion bugs that haven't been fixed yet?
>>553576304>bugs>Getting fixednice jokemade me smile.
>>553576119I mean yeah we have the firepower to punch through a space marine's armor but if we're disassociating from gameplay and looking at it from a lore perspective then not accounting for luck or psyker shenanigans pretty much any space marine would convincingly beat any 4 man reject squad
>>553576481>not accounting for luck or psyker shenanigansBRAIN BURSTgg :)
>>553576304lol
>>553576304What's funny is that as far as Swedish developers go Fatshark is probably the best of the lot right now, which is painful to say. As much as I hate them, I'm glad we have them and not Arrowhead or Iron Gate. >>553576592ye it's really difficult to scale a psyker, there's always some nonsense they can do that could potentially defeat damn near anything except for another more powerful psyker
>>553576012Anon, we're the main character and the space marine has no name. We are going to narrative all over their ass.
>>553576012I still hope they add a space marine boss fight>MY TERTIUM! MY SPOILS OF W->4 grenades fly out >oneshot >ragdoll ends up awkwardly flying into a corner
>>553576703trve actually>>553576745would be funny and would probably cause alot of seethe from space marine fans
>>553576304Ogryn has been unable to climb fences that humans can climb for 26 months nowPeople on the forums even found out what the issue is (they changed vault detection, but didn't account for ogryns higher viewpoint) but Fatshit wont fix it
>>553576926Why do developers keep putting in vaulting for waist-high objects when crouch jumping is a better solution? Vaulting should only be a mechanic for climbing up things that are at eye-level.
>>553573607Doesn't help that they all have specific ways of being deployed and in how they operate. A Vindicare wouldn't be caught dead in the kinds of missions the players are deployed on, they sit their asses in place and shoot a single target from light years away and sneak off. Eversors are drugged into a psychotic rage, having them calmly walk around on the mourningstar would make GW pitch a fit. Callidus and Culexus are the only ones that would kind of work, but there's not much point to a Callidus given the nature of the missions and there'd be difficulty having Culexus assassins work alongside psykers. The four main assassinorum claves are right out, but there are a bunch of minor ones that could be used.
>>553576304At best we'll get a hotfix at the end of January, at worst it'll be in mid February.Knowing Fatshark it'll be the worse option.1st proper update with new content (lmao), will be around 25th of March.
>>553576301those are included, yes. i was just giving one example
>>553577061>but there are a bunch of minor ones that could be used.There's only 2 other assassin temples known, it's the Venenum (toxin specialists) and Vanus (basically imagine cyberpunk netrunners, but they spend 90% of their time being NEETs and just hooked up to computers).And both of these wouldn't really work at all either, also again with these is that they work alone 99.99% of the time.Those are the only 2 other clades that are known, and GW certainly isn't going to let Fatshark to come up with their own ones at all.
what blessings are best for spearhead boltgun on vet?
>>553577447There's the Adamus clave, going by description they sound like weaboos running around with katanas.
>>553577473blaze awaybleedpinning firecavalcade
>>553577473>puncture + cavalcadeboss damage>cavalcade + pinning firespraying into hordes of elites
>>553577473always take puncture
>>553577473Depends on what you use it for.Mag dumping bosses? Puncture+cavalcade or puncture + shattering impact work well. (Brittleness amps up bleed damage)If you want to use it for sniping then you should take Surgical and Pinning fire.
>>553577636also puncture + pinning fire might be better for spraying into hordes of elites, but you definitely want pinning fire
Does quickplay never put you in a maelstrom mission?
>>553577473Puncture and surgical, or puncture and shattering impactDon't build for magdumping bosses, it's retarded.
>>553577723i kinda do a little but of both, should i take surgical + cavalcade?
>>553577950Cavalcade only works with continuous fire I'm pretty sure, which is antithetical to surgical requiring you to hold your shots.
>>553577473Magdumping is for drooling retards (and zealots), you faggots know who you are, kill yourselves, your "advice" is literally trolling.>Mk IIb, Unyielding, Carapace, Surgical, Shattering ImpactFor sniping, if you stack a little bit of brittleness you can also kill crushers with a couple headshots.If you don't care so much about crushers, you put Pinning Fire over brittleness.Yes, you run this with Deadshot.>Mk III, Unyielding, Flak, Surgical, Pinning FireThe explodey one is surprisingly usable, as it instantly stacks Pinning Fire to max in a single shot, staggers like crazy, and lets you buy safety against bursters from range without killing them. The hip fire is whatever. The main downside is having pretty bad ammo economy.Puncture is a good blessing, but I much prefer having a target die right then and now, over waiting for it to bleed out.The most you should ever build for magdumping is Shattering Impact, because that blessing is still useful when sniping crushers.Magdumptards are the reason people call the gun ammo inefficient (it isn't) or even bad (it's top tier).I will get countless (You)s and unquoted replies for this btw because this general is full of Dunning Kruger retards who can't play vet.
>>553577547Clade Adamus are basically just Eversor-lite edition, and minus the psychotic rage.Assassins as a whole just don't fit into a game like Darktide since for most of them stealth is their bread and butter and 99% of the stuff they do, unless they are an eversor.Their job is to get in unnoticed, kill their target, and get out. And for basically every assassin temple, except eversors, the most succesful mission is the one where no one realizes that there has been an assassin. With the bystanders assuming that the target died from natural causes or just by happen-stance.
>>553577819no but if you queue for maelstrom it might put you in an ongoing one if there's room available
>>553578176Not exactly in the case of Adamus, they were a fieldable unit in 1E, so they're no strangers to open battle.
>>553577950one blessing for snipes, one blessing for magdumps. Test surgical in the meat grinder and see if you find it helpful. If it lets you one shot certain enemies it can be good. But if not, get something else.
>>553577950then take puncture because it improves both
>>553578171Fuck off if I want to snipe I'll use a revolver, I'M MAGDOOOOMPING
>>553578654Then at least use the explodey one because it's kinda half-decent at erasing crowds with flak + Pinning Fire.It's not like you need the old mark when you can just use kraks for anything you'd want the higher DPS for.
>>553578171here's your (You) since you're basically begging for it. There's literally nothing wrong with magdumping if you have ammo to spare. It's entirely situational. Saving ammo makes no sense if you already have more than you need.
Bolter? I hardly know her
>>553578874kek
>>553578815>if you have ammo to spare.Having ammo to spare with non-las weapons means you're not shooting enough. I know that's an extremely novel and complicated concept for a meleesissy to grasp, so I'll just chalk it up to you being fucking retarded and let it slide.
>>553579012be respectful
>>553579176tell that to the guys who dont use their ammo to make life a little easier for their team
>>553578874LOL
>>553578874haha!
>>553579176shut up, bitchj
>>553578171if you want to snipe and shoot crushers you take helbore, not bolter
>>553580905Bolter can 2-3 shot crushers with the right build, in a very similar time frame to the helbore. TTK wise they're quite comparable, the helbore just has literally infinite ammo ofc.
>>553579012nigga, ammo management is fucking easy. If I have a lot I'll shoot more, if i have little i'll shoot less. It's not rocket science. Fucking retard stop talking.
>>553582208sybau
>>553579012>Having ammo to spare with non-las weapons means you're not shooting enough.no it doesn'ti might mean the team is playing aggressively in melee
>>553576260Sex with depressing brown elves
>>553578423Even for the clade Adamus stealth is of the utmost importance, they are not the "run in guns blazing" type.In Rogue Trader those things were just called "assassins", Adamus were only added like 2 ish years ago and only exist because GW wanted to make some nostalgia wank over 1 model they made 38 years ago.Also never fucking mind the fact that 1st edition of 40k was 38 years ago. Old rules are entirely irrelevant and do not matter to modern 40k.New rules are the ones that actually matter, and as for Adamus, they are exclusive to the Horus Heresy tabletop game and aren't found in 40k at all and don't have rules in 40kYou're never seeing any of the assassins in Darktide, because they just do not fit.
>>553552281Is this a discord tranny only mod? I don't see anything of the sort on the nexus
>>553583332It took you an hour to come up with that?
>>553583442shit, you're right i don't find it either. I remember seeing one of the jewtubers use it so i know it exists. Maybe you're right it might be a disctranny only mod.
>>553576481>>553576667Pretty much. I would drive give a Marine the upper hand against a Psyker of our caliber though, a hypersonic bolter round to the face before you can react is a pretty hard counter to them >>553576745I would prefer something like them getting shredded by a Stormraptor to do everyone justice
>join heresy train mission in progress>I'm 99% corrupted>standing on top of the second car away from the battery objective alone>immediately as I render in I'm netted>everyone else in the team is already downed or in need of rescueHOLY FUCK
>>553581101helbore is comfy too
Crusher 2h maul and regenerating Arbi grenades is actually funny. The amount of crowd control I have is ridiculous. Damage isn't half bad either. Can Ogryn even compete?
>>553584335not really worth getting upset over. just go next
>>553584335now you know why they keep sending reject suicide squadsit's a fucked up situation down there
>>553584516>Can Ogryn even compete?he mogs you, your dog, and is beloved by the entire cast.
>>553584335>new players are bad at the gameHOW IS THIS POSSIBLE
haiiiii
Communication tomorrow? maybe an hotfix? holidays are over!
>>553584516I'm pretty sure ogryn and other arbitrator builds both don't just compete, they're way better. The shock mine on its own probably locks stuff down just as much, so do the slab shield and mk3 club.
>>553584860
>>553585119skill issue
>>553584516>Can Ogryn even compete?Shock mines completely invalidate ogryn
>>553585119godspeed mister grenade launcher
>>553585252I don't think anyone is accepting ogryn for the CC.
>>553585327then what are they using him for lol
>>553585119>+1 assist
>>553585119I call that an avenger moment, just like when a trapper drags you into a poxburster or a mutant pushes you into the fire
>>553585497AoE skullbreaker and Taunt amp on incredibly low CD? If you have a few very high damage characters, then it scales incredibly hard into making missions that much faster. You literally do not have to worry about holding a crusherpack in place with a shockmine if the crusherpack is instead dead within seconds. I feel like Ogryn is damn nearly mandatory for making rotten armor bearable at h40 because it's so much faster. Arbites does 'ok' solo damage but he really doesn't offer all that much to actually speed things up IMO.
>>553585881arbites does more damage
>>553584729Who the fuck is lil gup arguing with lmao
>>553586123solo damage, yes.More damage than everyone doing 60% more damage teamwide? No.
>>553585881You realize arbitrator also has access to skullcrusher?
>>553585260>>553584860cute!!!
Is this hard?How does it work? Do you have to use Big Boxes of Hurt or can you use Bombs Away? Why are you gay?
>>553586719The distinction is arbitrator has few ways to apply it to many targets at once, his sole option to do that is locked to a shit wep
>>553587062Every penance that only mentions the shittier version of a blitz/aura/ability also counts the better version.
>>553586719Skullcrusher assuming you aren't using his main weapons, which most don't because most aren't going to use the basic maul when most players are incredibly selfish and the other weapons admittedly are very good.Arbiter however doesn't get access to soften em up 10% all sourcesTaunt 20% all sourcesBonebreaker for 10% melee amp just for existingAnd hard knocks for an additional 15% melee amp. In a heavy melee centric lineup, that's 55% additional damage in roughly the same area as the ogryn and 30% for non melee sources like psyker. That is all before skullcrusher. Just because the damage number isn't coming from ogryns weapon directly, doesn't mean ogryn isn't making the run significantly faster the same way focus target is. Hell ogryn is the best answer to the game deciding to spawn 7 bosses at the same time, which makes it an absolute joke.
>>553587997Add in that ogryn gets two talents to gain back toughness on light or heavy attacks right at the top of the tree and a ton of damage resistance further down, so you're able to stay in the thick of it staggering and debuffing everything.
>>553587553Which one?
>ogryn is weakwrong>ogryn feels like shit to play correctYes you can make your whole team do double damage, but your own weps do half damage to compensate which inherently feels like trash. Also he has no wep variety (again)
>>553589519>ogryn built for support>piss veteran built for support>chorus zealot built for support>bubble psyker built for supportobjectively correct h40 team comp
>>553587553I don't think that's a huge disadvantage, considering the targets that skullcrusher matters most on are relatively few.>>553587997And arbitrator has breaking dissent and target the weak. Counting valuable distraction the same as the other debuffs is a bit disingenuous because it's a 50s cooldown, which is competing with arbi knocking everything to the ground every ten or so seconds. They both seem pretty similar to me, maybe you can even argue for bringing both since everything but skullcrusher is unique.
Arbiter does no fucking damage imho
>>553476350if you don't need to apply blessings from your ranged weapon, i find it's easier to aim knives with a melee weapon out in particular. precise dot reticle and you can somewhat take your time holding block while lining up your throw
>>553587062>Is this hard?sometimes
here's a fact. ogryn is bussin.
i fucking love vet's mk1 shovel
>prefer the movement and horde clear of knoife>dueling sword offers more reliable anti carapace if kraks are on cooldown
>>553592969you should be using dueling sword or power sword on vet, no exceptions. if you want to use knife then do it on psyker where you can rely entirely on your staff for damage and just use the knife to run around fast and apply uncanny stacks
>>553592812if I wasn't a dueling sword scrub I'd use that. I really like it too. it's got a great move set
>>553592969I don't know, I find the carapace killing on combat blade pretty good. On vet make sure you bring mercy killer over flesh tearer and take the bleed on melee talent.
>>553592669hell yeah
>>553593180power sword is considered good on vet????
>>553593812fastest kill time on crushers in the game I think
>>553592558I guess my main concern is, how do I reliably make sure I have 4 grenades per mission?
>>553593368Have you tried the mk7 shovel? Similar move set, and kills big stuff in fewer hits than the mk1.>>553593812The empowered push attack hits really hard, and the empowered horizontals can nearly get double digit kills.>>553594213Pick up 1(one!) grenade pick up.
>>553593812it's pretty good when you power it up. wet noodle when it isn't. I think there's a blessing that increases the number of energized swings, but it's still sorta repeptive playstyle
>>553594698>>553594698>>553594698>>553594698>>553594698MOVE
>>553594745/v/ro... we were still on page 4
>>553593812It's specifically one variant of it that has an insane push attack -> light -> light chain that does 80 quadrillion damage.
>>553593812Its good. Just cumbersome to use. You can get overwhelmed with the sword pretty easily if aren't used to the *activates power sword* I think it's overrated. Dueling sword is just brain-dead, and has tranny strike.
>>553568696>Did I miss any?Navy. So yes, three possible imperial subfactions (mechanicus, sororitas, navy) before they would even consider adding a playable xenos (because GW hates xenosympathisers).
>>553602298Some of their most well known characters are sympathizers though and have worked with them before
>>553602783Yeah, that's fine. You just don't understand the GW mindset, it's as if xenos/chaos exist as just framing devices and punching bags.
>>553518049I haven’t though. The most I’d go is maybe doing a favor or something but no monetary transactions
>>553512223It’s not their competence that’s up in the air, it’s their willingness to get their shit together to accommodate a guy who they must know >>553568696>>553575981Cute
