Learnset Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>56090023Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
First for Maractus a cute!
Monke
>>56151567>acuteLooks like all right angles to me.
>>56151567FPWP>>56151632SPBP
pizzatime
>>56151632>>56151664Get fucked, Munki a shit
>>56151632>invalidates Dragapult all by itself
Dragapult was supposed to be the destroyer of worlds and instead was ok to mediocre. Now it's only a cog in the drago machine. The thing is though, stellar crown may be the one that makes it go nuclear. It will be so much worse than anybody every imagined. Looking at tcgplayer prices rn.
>>56153207What's in Stellar Crown that'll improve Pult?
>>56153242new supporter, chef girl (don't know her name, crispin?) sets up dragapult's energy immediately. You don't have to fuck around with xatu or charizard anymore. This frees up like half your deck since acceleration doesn't matter anymore, you can have a tatsugiri in the front or run the new ace spec tool that makes dragapult attack with either only one fire or psychic. This one supporter frees up dragapult (and dragons in general) to do whatever they want since energy is now solved by playing a lumineon to the bench.
>>56153265Ah right I kinda forgot about that card. I never realized that it's really good with multi-type energy costs, especially dragons. Let's see how it goes in a few months.
free slowpoke
What deck would you say has the best overall matchup spread right now?
>20 years>still no good Lopunny decks
>>56153414who cares we are in one of the most irrelevant formats of all time lol
>>56153514I do because I have a league challenge tonight.
>>56153414I'd say raging bolt and zard
>>56153557>he isnt prepared For shame. Drop out now.>>56153594WRONG! WRONG! RETARD ALERTRaging bolt, dragpult, regidrago then charizard
>>56153760Dragapults only good match up currently is charizard. It loses to 3 of the others you listed. Dragapult is shit outside regidrago
>>56153760>retard alert>listing Dragapult at a competent deck
>>56153405>Slowpoke late for the anniversary event>Adds a secret 51st tier to the battle passCute.
I keep getting matched against players with girl avatars. I do not believe this many girls play Pokémon tcg. New fag btw
>>56154970trannies
>>56153414Turbo lost zone.
>>56154982I fucking knew it
>>56154970I use the female avatar because being beaten by a black girl is extra humiliating for some retards.
Stellar Miracle should have a full reveal tonight, but the ex decks are still a month away.
>>56152915hhhnngggg
https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/07/all-102-stellar-miracle-main-set-cards-revealed
>Place counters until opponent's active has 50hp left>not effected by weakness or resistanceBad Tsareena. A poisoned opponent will trigger panic mask or vanniluxe.
>search 2 basics, put on bench>if this pokemon used first attack last turn, +90 damageNew call for family pokemon with a follow-up attack that will almost never trigger.
>Incoming {P} damage reduced by 60, then discard this toolAlso comes in fire flavor this set. Remember how much everyone loved the gloves in the swsh era?
>Draw 2. If your hand now has 10 or more cards, draw 2.Another gimmicky draw 4.
>Put this pokemon on top of your deck. Search deck for any 3 cards and add them to hand. Shuffle your deck.Might be relevant if there is a strong lock ability in the active and a way to recycle cards.
>Both players draw 3>flip coin
>>56155745 -60 from Fire Pokemon we must nerf an op fire pokemon that doesn't exist
>>56155745>>56155786Yes can we request these berries next please. We really need them
D - Gulp Down 10+If this Pokémon has more Energy attached than your opponent's Active Pokémon, this attack does 160 more damage.DDC - Venomous Hit 100Your opponent's Active Pokémon is now Poisoned.I like Swalot a lot so I'm gonna play him when he comes out. Doesn't seem too bad either, can 2KO any Pokemon. And with Janine it's going to be pretty easy to get the bonus damage. Unless you're facing Charizard or Lugia.
Ability: Wide WallWhile this Pokémon is in the Active Spot, whenever your opponent plays a Supporter card from their hand, prevent all effects of that card done to your Pokémon.Could be good for attacks that switches your active to bench like Golisopod, or something that can attack from the bench like Alakazam. But it's a stage 2 so it's a chore to setup.
>>56156185Course I forgot the pic.
>>56155682Yeah nothing really standout from what was already revealed. Basically just fillerTerapagos looks utter shit. The only stand outs are the ace specs and briar in charizard. The rest don't look like meta impacting in the slightest
>>56156245Crispin will save Dragapult, just wait. It only needs 2-3 more sets worth of cards to be a good deck.
>>56156261The upcoming dragon set will probably help out dragapult the most. We should get a bunch of dragon synergy then. Regidrago will abuse it tho until it rotates shortly after
>lugia
>>56156283This does nothing. Archeops can get all the energies back
Sasuga, TPCI.
>>56151495I think I have a pretty good collection! Need a Charizard though :(
Outside of Archeops is there a decent way to accelerate special energy? Cincinno looks fun but I don't want to be stuck using Lugia.
>>56158417Nope. Special energy releases and any synergy with it has been culled ever since lugia. I doubt we're getting anything good surrounding it until lugia/archeops rotate
POCKET WHEN?
This girl had just the two Ogerpon ex, the one Regidrago VS, and the Cleffa in play with Noivern ex in the discard. She got greedy and threw down more Ogerpon ex and Regidrago ex and I ended up gusting every turn to take the win with my Gouging Fire exes.
>>56159694They said 2024So I guess we'll get it in December...
>>56153514why is it irrelevant?
>>56160304NAIC already happened and comp players have no more major events until shrouded fable.
>>56160343Has shrouded fable even changed the meta in JP? Besides charizard re-appearing because dusknoir
>>56160443I hope at the very least maybe some of the hype is real and it makes Regidrago relevant. Current format feels so boring. Part of why I wish they had waited until at least after Fable was legal to start challenges and cups up again.
>Night Academy>Once during each player's turn, that player may put a card from their hand on top of their deck.Might be good tech for Magcargo ex. Means I won't have to rely on Cyphermaniac so much and set up straight from the hand.
>>56160942>Current format feels so boringHonestly, everything on the horizon seems boring. We're in the awkward period between S/V's era and PLZA's era, there's not much they can do besides exhaust all of S/V's concepts until the new game is out.Shrouded Fable isn't doing much besides making people ask "Does my deck lose to Charizard?" again. And next set, either Dragapult gets good, or nothing changes. Terapagos doesn't look very promising. I think the Stellar Pokemon are going to be mostly duds like the VUnions were.
Every format feels boring to you people.
>>56151495How to improve this?
>>56161399You don't need Xatu there
Good ending>Pocket proves to PokeLabs the viability of "simple TCG", leading to depowering of Standard. Pokemon will try to start a "Pocket-to-PTCG" pipeline.Bad ending>PokeLabs sees Pocket as the product for casual players, dooming PTCG into being a sweat quarantine zone. Every Standard moving forward will be a turn-3 win bonanza with constantly powercreeping cards.
>>56161108No magma basin then so building them up is event worse
>>56161989>with constantly powercreeping cards
>>56161989Actual ending>It flops hard because it ultimately just ends up being a login twice a day for a quick dopamine hit for a couple months till you realize oh it's kinda shit
>>56161989
>>56161626I don't have Rotom V or Fezandipiti ex
Fuck lost box>They discard 2 colress turn 1>Iono to 6 into 3rd colress>Reset stamp to 2 into 4th colress>Iono to 2 into roxanne>Still had boss after pokestopping every turn
>>56161989>good ending>tcg designers take the good shit out of Pocket and introduce those mechanics into the actual game>no more prize cards, only prize points
Prize point cleary the better idea than prize card
>>56164598Using points instead of 6 cards out of your deck wouldn't even change the game that much and would allow for better deckbuilding and less time spent prize checking at the start of the game.>everyone gets six points at the start of the game>can be represented through markers, dice, or cards like paper VSTAR markers for instance>claim one of your markers every KO; ex, EX, GX, V, etc is still worth 2 points>you win once all six markers are taken
keep dreaming we have cards just released that interact with the prizes, it couldn't possibly be changes for another 3 years
>>56164743what card?
>>56164782there's dozens of them from charizard ex to counter catcher, which could theoretically being errata'd, to things like chansey from 151 which would simply lose their purposeit's clear that the pokemon company isn't taking the game in that direction, it's just not in the cards (heh)
>>56164813What? Those would all function the same. Just have the new system be prize points which are just 6 filler cards/coins you put there. Then just print future cards like those calling them "prizes points" instead of "prize cards"
>>56164867>arc phone
>>56164867yea and if I were the queen of england I would appoint you as my court jester
Chansey and Daisy's Help are the last two cards that physically interact with prize cards. At the earliest we would see a prize system change after rotation in 2026. It's not happening.
Actually I forgot this card is coming out in Shrouded Fable. Make that rotation of 2027.
Wow all irrelevant cards, great evidence guys. Something like a prize map change would happen with gen 10, if any existing stuff like those was still in the format it would get eratta'd at the time. Obviously a change like that wouldn't have been planned back when shit like arc phone release.
please screenshot your post as a "told you so" when they change the systemI would do it but I don't want your retarded opinions on my hard drive
>>56165132The fact that Pocket is changing up so many mechanics is proof enough that they will likely be doing ruling changes on the physical game soon.
They'll just print a different set of cards with different set of rules instead of tampering with the old cards
>>56164598I disagree. Prize cards increase the luck factor and forces player to rethink their strategies depending on the resources they have aviable so no 2 matches don't feel exactly the same.
>>56165434>increase the luck factorMore RNG is never a good thing. No other game forces you to play without six random cards that you specifically included in your list to use.>and forces player to rethink their strategiesSo instead, you have games where you just go>"Well, I wanted to play my deck the way it's meant to be played, but my prizes are bad. Better luck next time I guess haha."That's better to you? How many regional streams have we seen where the commentators basically say "Man, those prizes are shit. He might be fucked." before they even have a chance to play. It doesn't have to be this way.
Don't like prize cards?Play a new game! :)
Rate my deck :^)Pokémon: 31 Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 1122 Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 1991 Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 215Trainer: 0Energy: 156 Basic {F} Energy SVE 6Total Cards: 60
>>56165634Thanks for the 20 card mulligan, I attach DTE and hit for 170 + 30 poison damage
>>56165537>More RNG is never a good thing.This is typical Reddit logic. Every game is going to have RNG. As long as a game has any private information, it has randomness. A good design allows players to react to RNG and test their ability to adapt on the spot.Prizes are a great mechanic that prevents one-offs and hyper-optimized decks from being too consistent. The fact that today's designers insist on promoting decks with degenerate strategies that don't work well with the Prize system is the fault of the intern-tier Jap designers of today, not the system itself.
>>56163022??? a charizard gx deck would absolutely roll all over buzzwoke
>>56165434>>56165780RNG prizes is fucking shit, what are you talking about? This is the only TCG to have a portion of your deck just unavailable with fuck all you can do about it. You prized your baxcaliburs? Better concede nothing you can do lolThat sure is fun and competitive yep
>>56166709stop replying to shit opinions. the guy is a retard
>>56165539they already are
>>56166709Don't play decks based around a single card?Literally no other card game has this issue, unless you're playing some degenerate combo deck and get Thoughtseize'd on Turn 1.If you don't like RNG, why are you playing a card game?>>56166715>there is a single person on /vp/ that knows something about tcgs
I don't know how there is anyone left still defending the prize card mechanic when even TPC themselves know it's bad. It's getting removed in Pocket and will likely be removed for the physical game later on down the line.
>>56167203>Don't play decks based around a single card?a playset only goes up to 4 and prize cards are 6. no matter how you build your deck the prize cards can always hard brick you>Literally no other card game has this issueNo other card game uses this garbage mechanic
>>56167203>Literally no other card game has this issueBecause they have access to every card in their deck, not randomly getting fucked over>but randomness is good than 1 offs 1 offs is better deck building, you can adjust your deck onto what match ups you're expecting to vs. compare to currently where it's just "run the best 60 cards" to be the most consistent deck to try not get fucked over by prize cards. it provides more innovations having your full deck and access to all your 1 offs
>>56167203>Don't play decks based around a single card?Are you being ignorant on purpose, or are you actually retarded? That's nearly every deck.>>56167203>If you don't like RNG, why are you playing a card game?You're missing the point. RNG will always be in any card game. Pokemon is the only one that adds extra more to it as a game mechanic. You shouldn't have to play 4 Gardevoir/Baxcalibur/Pidgeot in a deck when you only ever need 1-2 in a game just to work around the prize mechanic. Adding extra copies you don't need and will never use in this instance is trying to avoid a problem with a game flaw instead of building strong deck. No one ever wants to run 2 Rotom, or 2 Squawkabilly, but they do it so they don't get fucked by prizing.
>>56167262>No other card game uses this garbage mechanicDuel Masters literally uses this mechanic, but why would you expect /vp/ to have knowledge on anything.>>56167280>Because they have access to every card in their deck, not randomly getting fucked overLiterally wrong, but keep coping. Most TCGs have ways to fuck with your opponent's cards specifically to stop degenerate combos that are based around a single card.>>56167477>Are you being ignorant on purpose, or are you actually retarded? That's nearly every deck.So why are you complaining about a mechanic, instead of the dev's insistence to make every deck into a "abuse this broken combo engine"?>Pokemon is the only one that adds extra more to it as a game mechanic.Again wrong, but also every other TCG is generally about running 4 copies of every strong card. Running 1-2 is reserved to extremely situational cards that can help in bad match-ups. It's only Pokemon where twinks want all of their decks to be unstoppable solitaire combo with 1-offs of everything.You're definitely one of these players that know they don't like something, but have no idea what causes you this discomfort, so you spout reddit-tier opinions. Many such cases.
>>56166709Just be luckier or play chess as long as you get whites you'll be fine.
>>56167545>Duel Masters literally uses this mechanic, but why would you expect /vp/ to have knowledge on anything.Oh you think you're clever for bringing up Duel Masters? Yet you are too stupid to see the drastic differences between Pokemons prize cards vs DMs shields?>DM shields work in reverse to prize cards, giving the one on the receiving end extra cards instead. This gives the player behind a chance for a comeback instead of snowballing the player who is currently ahead.>Shield Break mechanic which further punishes aggression and helps create comebacks by potentially triggering a powerful effect vs the aggressor. This also gives you cards you WANT to be randomly shielded, while Pokemon dreads any important cards ending up prized.>Pokemon decks rely on specific cards in order to win, such as energies, evolutions, and your main attacker. All of which can get fucked by your own prize cards. Meanwhile DM can have ANY card act as their 'energy' and don't rely on a singleton attacker to do all the work. This makes certain cards getting "prized" in DM not a big issue.>DM has tons of cards that let you swap around your shield cards with ones from your hand or deck, while Pokemon very rarely prints a card that lets you interact with your own prizes whatsoever. So even when key cards get shielded, there are plenty of ways to retrieve them.
>>56167545>Most TCGs have ways to fuck with your opponent's cards specifically to stop degenerate combos that are based around a single card.Lmao like Eri? And soon xerosic? We have plenty of that here too. If people are running more 1 offs it means you can easily punish those 1 offs, much like the 1:1 bibarel lines commonly used in decks now. There's still much risk of using 1 offs but at least then you have the option for it, instead of them just being prized like nowStart by playing the game before giving opinions. Prize cards are an outdated concept from the original tcg, that really needs to be overhauled
>>56167280>Because they have access to every card in their deck, not randomly getting fucked overThe main reason why the Prize card system is seen as sacky is because the game is highly reliant on tutoring. I think tutors decrease RNG, but it also makes deckbuilding a lot more greedy in putting less copies of a card in your deck which is at odds with the Prize card system.Most card games with a shield system don't have many ways to access the whole deck. Cards reserved for your life could may as well be considered the bottom X cards of your deck.
>>56167733>"Yet you are too stupid to see the drastic differences between Pokemons prize cards vs DMs shields?">Names almost exclusively mechanics that are written on the cardsThe only thing you've got in that Pokemon has Energy, but nobody has folded a game because they've prized all of their Energy.You are too retarded to realize the difference is that Duel Master takes the mechanic and utilizes it in interesting ways, while Pokemon TCG keeps promoting decks that work terribly with said mechanic.>>56167866>EriDoesn't target many cards that people actually worry about prizing.>XerosicYou aren't even trying, are you?Come back to this thread when you read about cards like Thoughtseize or Counterspell, that will absolutely shut down your deck if you base it on a one-off for some retarded reason.>>56167971A single person gets it.
>>56168199>Thoughtseize or Counterspell, that will absolutely shut down your deck if you base it on a one-off for some retarded reason.hmm, no
Can't believe my future deck lost because I only have a 1 off stadium and couldn't remove this..!
>>56167545>You're definitely one of these players that know they don't like something, but have no idea what causes you this discomfort, so you spout reddit-tier opinions.Everyone in this thread has explained to you why they don't like prizes and your response each time is "No, you're wrong and you're from Reddit if you don't agree with me." You're an idiot.
prizes are fine, only gripe with them is requiring any serious player to spend 2-3 minutes at the start of a game figuring out what they are
>>56167971Thing is if such a prize change happened future tutoring cards would be more balanced around it. Obviously it'll feel broken to start, like if they added it now you could arven nest+fss to get anything you wanted that would feel pretty unbalanced.> more greedy in putting less copiesbut then you don't have the consistency of finding said cards. you can't expect to run a bunch of 1 offs and be able to pull them whenever, this isn't vs seeker/battle compressor days. You still need consistency like now. It would just be far less punishing for having 1 offs compare to now, leaving more room for deck building those final 5-10 cards instead of just being the "most consistent 60 in card of prize cards" If you put a card in your deck, you should expect said card to be there. Simple as that. Artificial tampering with decks to make prize cards is so unbelievably shitty feeling.Also this >>56168521. Having to prize check is tedious as fuck, a lot of people don't even bother when they really should be. At the very least prizes should be visible to (You) which are there
>>56168342and Iron crown got boss and killed firstand Iron hand doesn't do much damage to ko big basicand the baton got lost'd before it got ko and you can't do anything because it doesn't have anything to draw
>>56168713SUUUURELY future/ancient will be good archetypes after a THIRD expansion release based around them... lol..
>>56151495How powerful would the Combined Powers Collection cards be if they were tournament legal?
>>56168905I don't know, how would a judge rule if I slapped my cock on the table and came all over my opponents cards?
>>56169110You win because your opponents cards are marked.
>>56168905Mr mime would maybe see niche use. Charizard tool giving it +100 dmg makes it retardedly the best deck in format. Blastoise becomes better with the tool too but charizard would ruin the format. Everything else is ass
>>56169505Wouldn't the tool only work on the non-EX version of Charizard?
>>56168510Sorry that I'm not cuddling your ego to change your mind like you're accustomed to on reddit. It's just more fun to point out exactly why you're retarded. Faster, too.I've already explained that yes, you don't like the mechanic, but you lack the mental capacity to understand why - continuing to complain about cards while thinking its the fault of the mechanic itself.
We should do what Vanguard does and turn prize cards into damage where you take cards on top of your deck to put in the damage zone when your mon dies
>>56169505So Suicune isn't actually that good?I seeI did test it at a home tournament with actual TCG tournament goers (like actual people with decent tournament results).It did quite well.
My man, just concede. Your dinosaur got hard countered. Get over it.
>>56165758>Hand Trimmers you
>>56169963Do you see Hand Trimmer in my deck? I'll take the loss and move onto the next match until I hit the 100% matchup.I made a Dark Zard pleb ragequit yesterday, feels good man.
92K-469Y-RYG-HTXMGP-RJ6K-6QL-7ZR
>>56170264whoever claimed this post pics, faggot9WX-7MJM-J49-VXX I know y'all like these
>>56170295also why not one of theseH62-9HWX-267-WR6again, post pics, especially for this one I'm curious
>>56170298Took this one
>>56169942Water cards like that you gotta compare vs chienpao. 3 water energy on suicune is 150. On chienpao it's 180. And chienpao only scales 30x more each extra energy put on as well. Sure you gotta discard them on chienpao but at 220 hp neither of them will survive to the end of the turn
Anybody had any luck with Forretress Regidrago? Any suggested decks? I'm trying to remove the use of both Gardenia and Ogerpon.
>>56170820I see
Prize cards are good because... RNG is good for competitiveness... yes..!
either suck it up or just play a new card game, faggot
>Just eat the shit we don't need real food hereThere's a fucking reason why we're the only TCG that has a system like this still. All the others know it's retarded
Anyone have a good decklist for Dragapult ex?
>>56151495Why don’t we have a Pokémon tcg sim made by fans? Yugioh has a lot of those, yet we don’t. What gives
>>56172811we have a couple of them and nobody gives a shit because at the end of the day live isn't that bad
>>56172817>we have a couple of them and nobody gives a shit because at the end of the day live isn't that badSource me on those couple? Links?
>liveLMAO!
>>56172850twinleaflimitlesstabletop simulator
>>56172899>twinleafnot released yet to the public>limitlessnot quite a multiplayer sim>tabletopsure, for weird ass formats no one cares
>>56172817Honestly all live really needs now is some sort of built in tourney feature and it'll be all good. Just implement cards to function properly is all. The look of live feels much better compare to ptcgo when I go back and look at old vids, I don't understand how we played on such a cramped board
Card collectors/investors: how often do you buy generic booster packs as opposed to deliberately buying individual cards?
>>56173404go ask the collector general, chud
>>56172772Limitless.>>56172563Kill yourself.
Is there a Pokémon with an ability that discards your entire hand and then draws a number of cards?
>>56174639This little dude
>>56174639the squawk
>>56172850TCGONEThe community for actually playing TCG is tiny. Live is absolutely dead compared to competitors. There's really no reason to use community-made sims unless you want to play retro, and even then the retro community is a percentage of a percentage.
>>56174639zebstrika
>>56174639
This vtuber's opening packs and giving away her codes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFyDdO2z-HU
>>>/vt/
>>56175155Code cards belong here you faglord.
>>56175139She's finished opening packs and is showing off her pulls.
>>56175361>glovesHuh?
>>56175418Possibility 1: Doesn't want to dirty the cards with hand oils but this doesn't really matter unless you're unboxing base set magic like that one guy. Might just do it feel cooler. Possibility 2: Some vtuber orgs don't let you show skin on stream including hands
>>56175235>>56175361retard
I wish PTCGL had a way to view your opponent's deck after a battle. Sometimes I'd like to know how they laid their deck out, but more importantly sometimes I want to know just what the fuck they were actually playing because it made no sense.
>>56176304Expecting too much. Live doesn't even give you a full view of your own deck.
Is there a list somewhere to see all the Pokemon in standard with no retreat cost?
>>56176593https://pkmncards.com/?s=type%3Apokemon+retreat%3A0+mark%3Ah%2Cg%2Cf&sort=date&ord=auto&display=images
here lies feature ball it never scores
I think the tree is gonna be Zard's Ace Spec of choice now. Pecharunt and Mochi are good enough for the purposes of forgoing Belt, and the tree can pull off the scariest play I can imagine with relative ease.>Zard at 5 prizes left, opponent at 4>blow up Dusknoir, either take a prize or put 13 on an EX>play the tree, Super Rod Dusclops and Dusknoir back>tree out Dusknoir again off your second Duskull>take another prize or kill the EX>Pidgeot out Briar>kill the active EX for 3 prizes>5 prize turnThat's the extreme, blowing up Dusknoir twice in a turn or just getting out Pidgeot or Dusknoir turn 2 without using up a Rare Candy is insanely powerful. I honestly don't know what can consistently beat Zard now that it has this option.
>>56177855>relative ease>get briar, rod, and tree with a single quick search, and have a spare duskull in playYour board might get a little too cramped between the support options of manaphy, bibarel, pidgeot-ex, V for seal stone, fenzindipiti-ex, and a backup charmander
>>56178035What's the support from Fezandipiti ex? The ability feels too situational to stay on the board, especially for the potential for it to get sniped. Is it for its own bench sniping attack?
>>56177567Still not the worst one>Friend ball exists to find a pokemon of the same type>But this is an even more limiting friend ball without any upsideIt is so bad
>>56178830I can see some fringe uses like in mirror matches, but that doesn't justify it I guess. Maybe if you're expecting lots of the same decks in a tourney?
>>56178851Even then friend ball didn't see much play either. Love ball is just so bad it's crazy. I'm not sure how they could've redesigned it to fit theme but still, making it a more conditional and stricter friend ball aint it
>>56174664>>56174888>>56175015>>56175126Thanks, guys.
>>56178830>>56178851I think it's specifically for manaphy, lumineon, etc
is there any point in grinding the battle pass after lv15 or so? the rewards are just a single pack or some cosmetic bullshitI haven't bothered to play with this pass, the final rewards seem decent but I can just craft them with the near unlimited amount of crystals and gems I have
>>56179525>grindyou complete the entire battlepass if you do your daily quests every other day, it's literally no effort
>>56179555it's a grind to even launch the client, takes 5 fucking minutes to load>quest is "take 2 prize cards">join game>attack once>opponent surrenders before taking my prizes
>>56179406Even in that case is friend ball just not superior still? There's really no need to have a specific "name" requirement for it. It's just so niche, even in an era of charizard mirrors friendball would be so much better. They couldn't get their pidgeot out but still have a pidgey? Friendball for your own pidgeot
>>56172899>twinleaf>limitless>tabletop simulatorWe really need someone competent to make a PTCG Sim, ygo has tons why can't we? Surely we have competent autists in our fan base
Would people be down for a competent PTCG fan game like showdown in the first place?
>>56179706no
>>56179706If it was like Percy/ygopro was for Yugioh, sure. Fully automated, could edit in your own sleeves, background, music, etc. It was great.
Would making a PTCG showdown be better with Godot or js/ts like how showdown is made?
>>56179694there's autists competent to make one but they would make it an online-only web app, host the only copy on github under their real name, then open a discord and a patreon
>>56178861Love Ball could put the Pokemon in play, rather than into your hand. Yes, even Evolved ones.The reason that'd be good for the game in general is, while extremely strong in mirror match-ups, it would be pretty useless against non-mirrors. The more congested the format, the more playable Love Ball would be, giving an advantage to non-dominant decks.
>>56151495So I haven't played since PTGO and decided to try Live out.Migrated my account and there is literally nothing there. All of my cards, decks, boxes and sleeves. Gone. All gone.What the fuck??
>>56180586>>56148595
>crafting an EX costs 600>crafting a V costs 750what the hell is this bullshit?
>>56180888That's cheap as hell Rares/uncommon/commons are the bullshitImagine having to spend 400 on a rare, when you can craft an ex for just 600. It feels like a scam
what do you guys think of Shrouded Fable?
>>56180460>Love Ball could put the Pokemon in play, rather than into your hand. Yes, even Evolved ones.No you can't. Reread the card.
>>56179748>Would making a PTCG showdown be better with Godot or js/ts like how showdown is made?Latter, former is still cpu heavy and big on memory>>56180586One of the many reasons why we NEED a proper PTCG fan made Sim. Fuck bootlickers for Pokémon company
>>56181553Some cards will be utility in the future set but for now it won't set any impact for the meta.
After over a decade of being lost, my dad finally uncovered my Pokémon card collection.These new cards you guys are posting look whacky.
>>56182265Wrong thread, fuckwit.>>56180146
>>56181553I believe in okidogi. but honestly shrouded fable and stellar miracle don't look like they're gonna change the meta really. just charizard buffs and maybe regidrago appearing who ultimately loses to charizard too.
Poisonchads will finally have their uprising, just you watch.
>>56182422god I hope, the Dark type cards are what interests me most in Shrouded Fable and that awesome Cassiopeia art
Why is the battle pass on Live so fucking slooooooooooow? There is like no point playing if you don't have dailies up.
A new Rayquaza will save us...
save from what?
from a varied and fun meta
>>56179706See>>56174908>The community for actually playing TCG is tiny. Live is absolutely dead compared to competitors. There's really no reason to use community-made sims unless you want to play retro, and even then the retro community is a percentage of a percentage.This is exactly why we don’t have a proper fan made simulator; majority of people on this hobby are just collectors, especially autistic japs
>>56184601If only old EXs can get reprints...
I went to my first local last week and I absolutely obliterated everyone there. I think the dudes (and one girl) there were just playing with cards they had or structure decks. I used the same Gardevoir EX deck I've been practicing with on TCG Live and nobody could touch me. I felt kind of bad about it and honestly it was boring for me. I'm thinking about making a lower powered deck to take to locals. Can I make some kind of meme hand control deck out of pic related?
Hey it's me rayquaza. I like discarding energy to do damage like rayquaza, I mean me
>>56184703Hand Trimmer, Eri, Miss Fortune Sisters?
>>56184707I wasn't sure at first, but you certainly seem to have a long body with distinct markings. Hello, Rayquaza.
>>56184703I've played this to a casual locals a couple of times. When it works your opponents will have even less fun.
>don't have the game in hand>opponent is in a fine spot>they scoop
>>56185268It is super easy to feel like you're done even when the other guy doesn't have the win yet. I've had to fight off the concede thoughts often and brought it back. The moment my opponent has more cards in hand and on the bench I glance at the button in the corner. People do fight to the end even though they've basically lost all the time though.
>digimon got a better fan client before usPokebros...
Hello anons. I just bought the Gardevoir league battle deck because I want to get into playing competitive Pokemon. What upgrades should I make to the deck? I know these decks are supposed to be good out of the box but I know new cards have come out since then. Thank you
>>56185951Looking at the deck list the things I'd immediately suggest are TEF Munkidori and PAR Scream Tail, very cheap cards that do a lot to improve the deckYou'll also need an Ace Spec, I'd recommend Unfair Stamp for the disruption playsThere are a lot of lists on sites like LimitlessTCG that should be able to give a good frame of reference on what to add and remove, a Gardevoir list got 2nd at NAIC so I'd start from there
>>56185951The deck has most of what you need already in it.You may wanna get an Ace Spec. Either Unfair Stamp or Hyper Aroma.2 more Arven and TM Evolution should help. Professor Turo's Scenario is also worth playing.Scream Tail, Flutter Mane and Kefkli are Pokemon that could prove useful.All of those are nice but you could do without to some extent. What you cannot do without in this deck is Buddy Buddy Puffin. You'll need 4 of those. I recommend you check some lists on Limitless TCG and use them as a guide.
>>56185976>>56185993Thank you for your help
>>56187487I'm so glad Rescue Stretcher is back, somewhat.
>>56187487This is a nice little LZ card. The choice of a specific basic energy you currently need or just getting back a poke to hand is nice. Makes spamming Sableye and Rad Zard easier.
>>56187487>Suddenly gardevoir is back in the meta
>>56187699>Suddenly gardevoir is back in the metaWhere have you been?
>>56187699>Suddenly
>>56187699retard
>>56188531My brain is thinking. Maximum 300 damage. What would he the best way to spread damage around to your pokemon? Gardevoir? Dodrio zooming draw? Give Aggron heroes cape for extra bulk and let it bulldoze everything?
>>56188918Gapejaw Bog, Gengar, Damage Pump. The usual Zoroark VStar stuff. I guess you also have Froslass now, but it doesn't hurt itself + can kill your own mons overtime.