A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading.>Thread Question:Can Arceus create a boulder so large that not even He can move it?Old:>>56681187
>>56749838>Can Arceus create a boulder so large that not even He can move it?I feel this is so philosophical a question that it will likely lead to controversial opinions. So I'll just leave my personal anwer quickly: no, Arceus can't create a boulder so large it can't move it. We, as humans, can't create anything that is actually superior to ourselves, otherwise, we would've been rendered obsolete already. Same deal here, Arceus, being a creator deity, shouldn't be able to create entities superior to itself.The problem here comes from Game Freak making bosses and legendaries with much more broken stats each generation, to the point they nearly rendered Arceus obsolete. But Legends showed they tried to rectify, which is why you're now catching a "fragment", and not the real Arceus. It's their way to say that shit like Ultra-Necrozma and Eternamax Eternatus aren't above Arceus.
>>56749830An interesting notion, and someone watching their own self having sex could be kinda kinky, but I struggle to see why Cynthia or Arceus would choose to do it that way, and if the "real" her ends up getting involved anyway then I don't really see the point.
>>56749838Still trying to work out a story I've had in my head about a veteran who had his leg blown off at the knee by an Electrode only to be saved and ends up marrying a Gardevoir that kept him alive and stays by his side to aid in his physical therapy and rehabilitation with a prosthetic leg developed (ironically) by Silph Co and Devon Corp. And before you ask, yes veteran suicide would be brought up along with all the fucked up jokes military vets would know.
>>56749916>We, as humans, can't create anything that is actually superior to ourselvesMmm, pretty sure we can but we're not stupid enough yet to not put a few flaws there in order to destroy it
>>56748923Koichi × Sabrina or Kiyo × Sabrina when?
>>56749932Yeah, I guess I just liked the idea and didn't think about it too much, but Cynthia would probably see it as a waste of time even if they ended up trying something similar down the line.
>spend considerable time in my notes explaining how some pokemon mechanics work>get to a part in a chapter where it's relevant>it flows better to not explain anything and to let the reader accept that it just worksnotebros what just happened
>>56750713That's what chapter end a/n's are for.
>>56750713Write it in a way that still allows your lore to be read between the lines or at least be hinted at. Reinforce and expand on that a few times throughout your story and then capitalize on it with an interesting conclusion/reveal that can derived from those hints.e.g:>pokemon understand human speech (default expectation of readers, they don't even consider lore implications)>pokemon understand foreign languages too (simple extension of the previous point, but interesting with potential uses)>pokemon only understand human speech in their presence, not through phone, video, etc. (attentive readers are now aware the author has actual rules and is going somewhere with this)Conclusion: pokemon don't understand verbal communication at all, they're interpreting intent behind speech and the protagonist takes advantage of this to communicate things without saying them, giving them advantages in battle.
>>56750713>what just happenedYou wrote.The considerable time was invested into your design document so YOU will not forget how it works and will be able to ensure that you write coherently. That you were able to write a scene that flowed without exposing any of that power level is evidence that you wrote well.Now, don't fuck it up.>>56750841No way.That would be fucking it up.
>Realize I introduced a character with orange hair and then started calling it red in subsequent chapters>Have to scramble rewriting lore to explain the inconsistency and why the first character to meet them sees them that wayGod damn it
>>56749309>>56749313>>56749320Well done, got a laugh out of me. It's actually not even a bad prompt, of sorts, but I think Arceus should've spoken more in Ye Olde English.
>>56751415Are you retarded. Just pick a color and edit the inconsistent versions.
>>56751569>Are you retarded. Yes>Just pick a color and edit the inconsistent versions.Ok
>>56751499Yeah I should have used "tho" and "thine" but I didn't want to put too much work into a jokefic
>>56752322What sort of mindset is that? If you're gonna write something, might as well put out the best you can. If it's some joking garbo, it better be the best damn garbage you can produce.
>>56751499Yup.
>>56750713You learned how to write, that's what happened.
>>56752346Fuck you then, I'll do it better just to spite you.
So at the end of the day, what's the consensus on guns? Pokémon might be better in some ways but not everyone has thevtalent to go beyond 1 badge tier
>>56753569Extremely heavily regulated / illegal. Also, probably shouldn't be very effective against tougher Pokemon. If you give modern weapons similar availability and effectiveness as reality, it unbalances the whole setting into insanity, because the villain teams should absolutely be willing to use them and they would be a tremendous upgrade over the level 3 poochyenas and such that grunts usually have. Basically, just pretend they don't exist unless you're writing grimderp war slop.
>>56753569Guns existing breaks the setting, but contriving a reason for them not to exist just draws more attention to the problem. It's best to just not mention them at all and rely on the audience's willing suspension of disbelief.Does make attacks like "water gun" kind of awkward I guess.
>>56753569You have small rats that can chew through metal, other small rats that can discharge lethal voltage currents, small critters that can shoot water more devastating than a bullet and creatures that accelerate fast enough to just about teleport and you're thinking of puny, regular guns?You're genuinely better off with something like a living rock or a fire lizard than you are relying on a firearm.
>>56753651>Guns existing breaks the settingWhat? Colress froze an entire fucking city and they have mini stargates, Giovanni is fucking around in the multiverse too, they also have airships out of Final Fantasy. If anything normal guns should be so useless that only the most poor and pathetic would find them useful since their society is full of magitek, like energy guns able to freeze or petrify Pokémon.
>>56753569They've been featured in my stories many times. Fortunately I've never felt a need to explain the rules I settled on or justify those decisions.
>>56753569Guns aren't kino, they clash with the themes and aesthetic of the setting.
>>56753569The general consensus is they shouldn't be stronger than a decently strong pokemon. Other than that, people have differing opinions on whether weak pokemon should be vulnerable to guns, and those who say yes are further differing on just how vulnerable they should be.What I'm going with for my story is basically how Jurassic Park handles it: guns can do decent damage to the 'average' pokemon, but if the pokemon closes the distance or is strong enough to shrug off several bullets or can shoot back then the human's fucked. Things change if the humans are in a group, but even then it'd take large squads or heavy arms to bring down something like a Charizard from Kanto.Thus, humans during wartime were armed with guns since cutting down the chaff was worthwhile and their collective arms served as a deterrent to rush down the humans.
>>56753697And yet Colress, Giovanni, and every other villain or mad scientist loses to a guy with a sniper rifle or often even a pistol. Pokemon might be gun-proof, some might even be gun-speed, but the humans of the setting absolutely are not.
>>56754398>but the humans of the setting absolutely are notPretty sure psychics are, besides even if they can't tank them, blocking or just dodging should be possible like Naruto ninjas
Guns in my world are pretty much exclusively hunting tools or for personal defense. A military has little use for handheld guns because purpose-trained Pokémon are more effective.
>>56754534War planes were extremely effective, but ww2 pilots still carried sidearms. Always stay strapped just in case the only thing standing between you and life is a rattata who snuck past your pokemon
>people would rather bash her than do anything with her, not even a harem member Damn, anyways guns are dangerous in Persona right?
>>56754991She has a minor role in my fic as a leader in the Dragon Clan who comes to aid the heroes in protecting Zekrom from the villainous faction. She loses, but she does better against their Ace trainer than anybody else in the story has up to that point.
>>56755319Do you give special skills to Dragon Clan fags? In my not-published setting they have stronger bodies than most martial artists, can use Dragon Force as their aura equivalent and fangs that can crush rocks
>>56755396Nothing that's especially unique to them compared to other physically powerful trainers, who in my fic have the potential to be strong enough to fight and even defeat Pokemon head-on, but they all tend to have nerves of steel and ride their Pokemon in battle. This lets Clair get close enough that even after her Roaring Moon is KO'd by Magearna she's able to steal the Light Stone off her opponent and toss it to the protagonists, who are at least able to prevent Reshiram from being abducted too.
What's the fanfic scenes' consensus on Arceus' sex? Are they male or female?
>>56755640>theyIf you have more than one Arceus, and perhaps 250 to reach 1000 limbs, I guess some are boys and some are girls. Send them Dr. Oak's way. He always asks and can report back with a completed survey.
>>56755640I think they're a being without an inherent sex, having created the world in which such things are defined, and by the fluid nature in which they slip in and out of form they can take the form of any gender, or a mixture of them, it chooses. Futa Arceus.
>>56750713What was the mechanic, anon? And what is your fic?
>>56755319>>56755474Share fic.
>>56755640It lays eggs so female.
How's that crossover going, bros? I gave up
>>56753569I think the use of Pokémon in war led to a very different military arms race. firearms exist but they developed very differently like as hyper expensive sci-fi weapons and that kalosian WMD. Also people overestimate what a pistol can do to a regular human let alone a "high level" anime monster. There are also cultural reasons as to why weapon use isn't encouraged like that veilstone myth, destructive conflicts in the past leading to a heavy stigma about using them on humans or pokemon in the present.
>>56757366>Also people overestimate what a pistol can do to a regular human let alone a "high level" anime monsterHow so?
>>56757373Humans have tanked headshots. That's why they tell you to aim for the roof of the mouth for the least resistance. Stronger firearms will not have this issue but yeah.
>>56757429Still dangerous.Mamoswine take many spear to kill. First spear start blood then many more spear follow for more blood. Soon mamoswine go down as body fail.Human like mamoswine except human take less spear. Even one spear enough for Grug to point and laugh. "You have spear in tummy haha. You fall to floor now and bleed until Grug skin you for new face to wear."
>>56757505I would rather use a ballista on a Mamoswine, it's hide is likely a lot tougher than an earth mammoth abd what the fuck do you do when it causes an earthquake or blizzard? On that note it's better to be shot in the stomach than speared through.
>>56757530Grug fight human with gun before. Human with gun say "Where am I? I was on my way to work when a truck hit me and next thing I knew I was told I was being isekai'd to pokemon to be its hero and ow stop please stop no please"Grug stab him with spear because him talk too much, but then he unleash power of thunder god with gun. Grug laugh and say "lol only 9mm" then fall asleep suddenly from so much blood loss. Grug only live because fat chansey shaman wife heal Grug.
>>56757589>no chansey shaman wife to sleep onSinnoh...has fallen...
>>56756858Sorry anon, haven't gotten that far published yet. It only exists as my outline so far.
Bros, in a setting with Ash and PokeSpe Red should I make them brothers? I don't even like the dude but its kinda sad how he's so, unpopular I guess? No power levels involved tho because it would attract the worst of the worst and Ash can probably beat Red to death with his bare hands if he's not nerfed
>>56758292>No power levels involved tho because it would attract the worst of the worstYou're already doing that by putting Ash in the same setting as any iteration of Red. There's no way for things to go except hell
>>56749838WHAT IF ASHWAS BETRAYED
I recently got an idea to start a fanfic where a student at Saffron City's Dojo wants to regain the honour of his Master or something and eventually beat Sabrina to reclaim its honour or some crap.This leads him to venture out there and even across different regions to train and go on wacky adventures.
>>56757359Don't give up, anon! If you don't write it, no one else will! The world needs your idea, no matter how cringe it might be!
>>56758360How about Ash Black?
>>56758302Counterpoint, most don't give a shit about PokéSpe Red or even know who the fuck is he.I will never forgive MasterSex btw, they baited us so fucking hard>>56758360WHAT IF HE WAS BETRAYED AND TRAPPED
>>56758417Most people will whitenoise the "pokespe" part out and just see it as a more social version of the game's Red.
>>56758415>He doesn't know https://youtu.be/mNUYl3c0TfE?si=zk2plri0tzViAoII
>>56758390>I recently got an idea to start a fanficGreat!>where a student at Saffron City's Dojo wants to regain the honour of his MasterI wasn't aware that the dojo master needed to have his honor regained, but this is a solid motivation for a character to have. Fighting for a loved one rather than themself shows an amount of depth right off the bat>and eventually beat Sabrina to reclaim its honour or some crap.I'm with you so far. I'd like to see Sabrina used as a primary obstacle to be overcome (I hesitate to call her a villain but I don't have a better word) as opposed to just being one of many supporting minor antagonists.>This leads him to venture out there and even across different regions to train and go on wacky adventures.Now you've lost me. What about this setup lends itself to going out on a globe-trotting adventure? Your motivation is small scale and could easily stay within the confines of a large city, rather than going off to do countless things in faraway places. Look at it this way; what if you wrote a story like Rocky (the first film) instead of a story like Avatar: The Last Airbender?
>>56758450Oh, I know. It's not good enough if you ask me.
>>56758566NTA but I feel this setup does lend itself to travel (maybe not global-scale but some ground covering) because both himself and his master are limited by staying in Saffron. The lack of other experiences, the wisdom of other martial masters, the knowledge of other travelers on the path of bodily excellence, is exactly why the Master has lost his honor and why the student needs to leave the nest.Any disciple or discipline that sticks too fervently to a limited set of experiences and doesn't absorb lessons of others from different parts of the planet cannot claim to be a whole and complete warrior.Not that that anon needs to make it into a whole journeyfic, but the setup is there if he wants it.
>>56749838Some fanlore thoughts I had based on the beta leaks:>AUS is the "true form" of Arceus, and if mortals could see it without immediately exploding, it would look like the beta version of Arceus shown in the 2020 leak.>The "actual" Arceus that appears in the games is only His avatar, for dealing in the matters of mortals.>Dialga and Palkia also have "true forms" separate from their Origin Forms, representing IA and EA, and looking similarly nebulous>The defeated giants' bodies don't just infuse the Plates, they literally became them, and Arceus draws from their power when He equips a plateI kind of want to create a fangame where the giants reawaken and Arceus loses His powers because of it, and you have to help Him get all the Plates back
>>56755640Arceus is god, so he's beyond such things. I refer to him as a "he", though, but that's probably just out of habit.
>>56759152Shadow of the Colossus ft. Pokémon?
>>56758074Tell me more about your fic then.
Boy I sure hate Clair.
I am going to cum inside Claire
>>56761424Based
>>56757429Generally the issue is glancing, not insufficient energy to penetrate, but yes, if bullets or swords or hyperfang fails to hit the medulla, brain stem, spine, heart, aortic arch, or other large artery, death takes minutes, not seconds, and Pokemon is a universe where technology and Pokemon moves can prevent slow death. Squaring this with hit points is a perennial issue with any media attempting to follow game rules, I suggest not doing so.Unguilded has it that circulating type energy in your body prevents injury until it’s depleted and Pokemon being vulnerable to injury like regular animals after depletion. I don’t think I like that, but I’m not sure.
>>56759963It's set in a time period vaguely 10-15 years after the games, and is about an OC who comes to Kalos from Paldea after his parents, a pair of genetic researchers, mysteriously vanished. He gets caught up in a conspiracy when he crosses paths with a pair of girls who don't know one another yet have identical faces. The girls are being pursued by a new Team, clad in silver "F"s and swearing loyalty to an individual they call Invictus Magnus Oberon, for reasons neither of them understand, and the MC soon learns he has several personal ties to its members that he can't make sense of. Teaming up with them, his aunt, and a few recognizable faces from the games (though now older), the MC gets taken farther and farther across the world as the conflict escalates, and he attempts to uncover what connection the Team's leader holds to his missing parents.If you feel like reading what's published so far, the link is https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14397816/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-In-Mine-Own but I'm nowhere near where Clair comes into play and I didn't want to mislead you about what to expect.
>>56761088>>56761424These.
>>56753569The problem with guns is that they're too static, Pokémon fights tend to be high speed battles like the average shounen, or most combat sports so unless the one using guns starts doing Gun Kata they won't look cool nor be useful
>>56759196I haven't played it but that sounds about right
>>56749916>We, as humans, can't create anything that is actually superior to ourselvesWe already have done so actually, quite a few times, since the 60's as well
>>56762766While good you're not really missing much and some YT video is enough to get the plot
I just realized that Red would be 14 at the same time Cynthia is 28.Guess it's no coincidence that Strongest of the Strong is /ss/ just like Straight Shota is /ss/
How come there's no cool ninja shit when they're a thing in the setting?
>>56764329They pale in comparison to all the chuuni superpower classes
>>56756192Aura and how it's responsible for pokeworld fucks being so durable.The fic(Peerless) is currently on hiatus while I build a backlog and also work on other stories. Because I, a fool, decided to chase chickens while leaving my rice unattended.
>>56765425>chuuni superpower classesPsychics?
I fucking love trains, they should sell city maquettes too
>>56759152Also, adding onto this: AUS, IA and EA are not Pokemon, but their avatars Arceus, Dialga and Palkia are. AUS, IA, EA, etc, are gods who exist above all creation.
Fakemons are super non-kosher, and I've only seen a few smaller fics use fakemon regional variants and mega evolutions.I haven't been keeping up with them, but have any of the "big" fics used fakemon variants/megas? Borne of Caution, Hard Enough, etc? The biggest one I can think of is The Most Evil Trainer.
>>56767732What did Evil Trainer do? I think I recall The Type Specialist introducing new mega evolutions near the end of the XY arc but nothing came out of it since they only got a passing mention during it.
>>56764329Ninjas aren't cool anymore.They're a relic of the eighties, nineties and early-mid 00.Plus, Naruto has painted the perception of ninjas in the western hemisphere in the zeitgeist. The ninja aesthetic is simply old and busted.
>>56764329>>56768606After Bea and Iris we need ASSASSINS!
>>56768630For some appearance in Eastern Asian media, see: Ragnarök Online and MGQP.
>>56768606>NarutoCompletely destroyed ninja as anything that could be cool.
>>56768937Was it really that bad?
>>56769151Built for burly mudsdale cock
>psychics>ninjas>channelers>aura users>empaths>witches>fairy-likesAre there any other official superpowered humans I'm missing?
>>56769658Yeah, I remember Mikos being a thing in FRLG and their magic circles healing your team so I guess they’re basically onmyoji or mages
>>56769658>Magician's Apprentice (trainer class in PBR)>Mediums (kinda of the same thing as channelers, but it's a different class)>Sages (probably have *some* powers)>Ultra Forest Kartenvoy (maybe, since they reside in an Ultra dimension)>Gamblers (the superpower of getting lucky)
>>56769658>>56769925Oh, Dragon Tamers might have some too, depending on how you interpret them.
>>56769658>>56769925>>56769933So we're actually full of chuuni stuff? Guess my Taimanin crossover got some legs to stand, I just need to pick a timeline where they're still virgins
>>56770010>timeline where they're still virginsAction Taimanin.
>>56768307There was mega flygon and a number of other megas. I don't know if they got any major screentime though since I put the story on hold and haven't finished it after learning about the whole 40 year old thing
>>56770978>concealed>he doesn't have a belt proudly displaying all his Luxury Balls to flex on the peasantsngmi
>>56770978What the fuck is this from. Pokemon aren't weapons they're fucking Pokemon. That's like having a concealed carry weasel on your person.
>>56773159Try walking into an elementary school with a Princess the Pitbull and see if they stop you or not. Now imagine if your Pitball also knew Pursuit to run down any fleeing child, Odor Sleuth and Dig to find them no matter where they hide, and Strength to break through any door that separates them from the children.
>>56773176Sounds terrifying until the kid in class 3-B throws out the Beldum his dad bought him and its Iron Head fucking kills Princess.
>>56773159>not concealed carrying his rabbies-manic weasel to unleash on whatever poor idiot messes with himSounds like a skill issue to me, famalon.
>>56770978Conceal carrying your Pokémon is less safe then just having them follow you around
>>56773159Reborn most likely >>56773669Surprise factor?
>>56774457It's moreso the problem of being blindsided by a surprise attack before you can get a 'mon out.
>>56749916Not only is this a retarded take in it's own right it's so painfully judeo--christfag in its assumptions I don't even know where to begin.
>>56754398Humans in even just the games can do whacky psychic shit and aura nonsense like fighting type moves, and even the protagonists can fastball a rock hard enough to hurt a pokemon a bit per the Safari Zones, so I actually kinda doubt that. Not everyone, sure, and probably not close to a high level pokemon unless they deliberately train super hard or are just naturally busted, but I would 100% buy Giovanni being able to at least able to just get bloodied by small arms fire.
>>56757373NTA but unironically we've proven that in recent decades part of why smaller rounds like 9mm kill sometimes is unironically fucking psychosomatic for non-vital or immediately critical wounds. People get psyched out and think they should die so instead of regular shock and maybe a slow death from a moderate wound if untreated the shock rides it out and god just flips their switch off because they think it's lethal so hard their brain just gives up. It's weird as fuck.
>>56769658regular black belts, explicitly one invented the Mega Punch/Kick moves which seem to be just insane, pure physical power more than aura on account of predating Aura, like a lot of other fighting moves.LeakLore also gives us poke-human hybrids outright and the like as well.
Has a fanfic ever made you cry?
>>56776047That would have to be a hell of a fic.ya
>>56774810>thinly veiled Christianity hate againIt’s so tiresome
Have you ever written a fic based off of a writing prompt posted by someone else, or do you always use your own ideas?
>>56777012Yes, including when it wasn't intended to be a prompt: Some of the most irrelevant off hand comments make for fine stories if you let them bake for a moment.
>>56776129I don't hate Christianity, I hate how much of a retarded excuse of a christian you are, there's a very clear difference.
>>56776047I tear up to touching moments easily so yeah. Probably some underlying trauma there causing that but I'm a man so that means I don't address inner problems
Thoughts on human slavery throughout pokeworld history? On the one hand, Pokemon would be way better at most menial tasks and the like, but on the other if there's one thing we as a species are fond of, its conquering and enslaving one another. Say I was ancient warlord and I took over a city—do I have use for the people of a foreign nation when I already have magical monster slaves, or do I just slaughter them wholesale?
>>56777730If the story's taking the pokemon are stupid animals route then you'll still need human slaves for most tasks. Even something as basic as transporting blocks of stone around and cutting something into pieces is beyond the ken of beasts.If pokemon are smart in the setting, well, humans are still valued as slaves for less practical uses. The heavens decide who lives and who dies by blessing them with the good looks that save them
>>56777012Honestly, most of my past work was actually small one-shots fulfilling prompts. I wrote mostly for myself, but based on satisfying prompts given to me.
>>56777730Super powerful magical creatures might not take constant abuse and exploitation too well, anon. Even if they do, would you risk it? In times of slavery, I'd think it's much safer to consider Pokémon as valued willing underlings and powerhouses and conquered people as the actual thankless workforce to sustain your warmongering throughout the lands.Wouldn't surprise me to see 'mons have more rights and respect than defeated outsiders.
>>56777730Can you IMAGINE the fucked up shit people with ancient-world morals would do to each other with access to the likes of ghost or psychic types? Human slaves would definitely exist, and would be subjected to mindrape, soulrape, actual rape, basically violated at every level and turned into lobotomized drones. Useless as anything except sex toys and maybe house servants, they would be objects below even Pokemon to be used and discarded as needed.
In the span of about 10k words my MC has been punched the fuck out by two different people. I kinda feel bad.
>>56778323Don't feel bad if he had it coming.
>>56778323Was your MC a dick?
>>56778349He's an orphan who's afraid of fighting but is doing it anyway to try and protect his new friends - and keeps getting punched out for it.
>>56778359So he's either jumping on the path of those fists - meaning he put that on himself - or he's pissing off people from the fighting-centric culture of the Pokémon world. Either way, not a surprise. Plus, you can milk that for reader sympathy.
>>56778323>Punched>Not BETRAYED and TRAPPED
>>56778323Now have a pokemon punch him out.
>>56777793Even if pokemon were dumb they'd still be leagues better than human slaves. Break up their tasks into simple steps, assign human overseers to steer them, train them from a young age, and they'd blow humans out of the water in anything related to physical labor.
>>56777012It's rare for people's ideas to tickle my desire to write, and usually I take like 60% of their idea and end up changing something or adding a major detail. I do tremendously enjoy filling other people's ideas because I'm kind of an attention whore.https://archiveofourown.org/works/59316577This was a request from Dawn general that I filled.
>>56777012The current fanfic I'm writing was based off a request from another anon. I haven't had the time to work on it lately, but I'll try to do what I can. Although I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do, since it will have some serious ramifications on how the characters will interact going forward.
>>56779875You wouldn't be able to accomplish much more than what oxes and horses can already do. They'd be glorified beasts of burden, except with the added concern that if they have a momentary tantrum they can cause significant destruction of cargo and infrastructure as well as a loss of personnel. Then their tantrum would spill over and agitate the other pokemon, and soon you'd have the pokemon equivalent of a beast tide on your hands.
Not shitposting, what compels someone to write fanfic that no one will ever read or get your refrences to? Like all the fanfic niggas on twitter make it their entire personalities and make references to it NON STOP. Their writings get low impressions and maybe 1 or 2 other fanfic writers reply to them regularly so they keep going.
>>56779988The joy of creation. Also, sometimes it's quality over quantity in regards to your audience, and having a few friends or other creators or people you interact with every day reading it goes a lot further than thousands of faceless strangers. My will to write is pretty much entirely tied to one specific friend's availability to read what I post.
>>56779988idk about them but I write for me and that makes it worthwhile all on its own.And this might sound like cope but I prefer not having a large following. A couple people to a couple dozen is the sweet spot for me where I can be happy other people like what I output and also not feel pressured to pick up the output rate or quality to satisfy a crowd. When my story hit 100+ followers I started getting nervous and it honestly made things less fun for a while.
>>56779988https://www.fanfiction.net/u/858447/Yoshizilla-RhedosaurusSometimes it's just raw passion
>>56779988Well, the stuff I wrote in the past was all about fulfilling prompts, so I know some people would read them, but I also wrote for myself. You know when you like a certain ship, or you want to read about X character doing Y thing and you just can't find one that sates you? Well, you do it yourself, just like Thanos Avengers says.
Bump
Why do people in these threads always bring up superpowers when arguing that pokehumans are stronger than us and never something the casual non-superpower pokehumans can do like the fact that they can>ride on flying pokemon without any protective gear>dive to the ocean floor, linger, and come back up again with nothing but their raw lung capacity and a fortitude that laughs at decompression sickness>walk through a sandstorm in their casual wear>slide across ice and slam against walls on the other side without injury>fall down entire floors and keep walking as if nothing happened>somehow start a successful death cult in a utopian world where by all logic nobody would have reason to join one
>>56767732>have any of the "big" fics used fakemon variants/megas?I can think of the edgelord clusterfucks that are Latias' Journey and its sequel, Brave New World.
>>56781407Honestly, I've considered the possibility before. Who says their world is exactly like ours? Maybe physics work differently in their reality. Maybe their gravity is lower or their air density is smaller.I could see the Pokémon planet being ever so slightly different from ours in key ways and that difference accounting for their everyday feats.It'd also be something to come into play in SI stories.
>>56781407We do in fact talk about how they're superior to us but there's some autist that seethes like you wouldn't believe if that's mentioned because mankin has to be 1:1 so talking about powers tends to not get that reaction
>>56780287Not sure what I expected when I clicked, but it sure wasn't that.
>>56777012The fic I'm working on now is very slightly connected to a forum roleplay a friend and I took part in years and years ago, though the only connected aspect is that I designed the villain for it, and retooled her for this story.
>>56779988The moment I crafted my characters, the moment I decided they had a story to tell. I'm not really concerned with the amount of people who read it as long as I finish the work from start to end.
>>56749838I’m trying to write a story based on my playthrough of a hack nuzlocke. I goofed on a pretty major story point based on an inference I made about the opening sequence and wrote it in. Do I keep going with it or edit it out to try and stay more accurate to the hack’s storyline?I’m kind of thinking I want to run with it. My story was only ever supposed to be loosely based on the game, anyway
>>56782639Roll with it. You're uncovering the deep lore that the opening sequence was hiding the truth about.
>>56781407Because this is not a fanfic/fanwork discussion thread.This is a shitposting thread about tropes with a slight pokemon flavor.>>56782639>My story was only ever supposed to be loosely based on the game, anywayThen go for it.What hack and what's your story about and like?
>>56782797>This is a shitposting thread about tropesDid I ever said how much I hate Reset Bloodlines?
Edgelord faggot here, I dislike slice of life but it's bothering me that I can't sit down and write fluff even when I try to. It doesn't feel authentic, I guess. What's the "point" of good SoL? What are things you generally want to include, or want the reader to feel?
>>56782910You should use it for character building in my opinion. Take it as an opportunity to show who the characters on when they're at ease, and let that inform you as the author on how they'll react in more stressful scenarios. You can also use it to flesh out the setting, endear people to characters who may not get as much play during the action, get them to care what happens to the place your story's set in.
>>56782568Motherfucking based
>>56782910A big ass war, I always wanted to write one in Pokémon based on FF Type-0 where they use kids because adults can't use magic or in this case because kinds bond with Pokémon faster than adults and are generally stronger
Train rides with your Pokemon!
>use random poke generator to roll the protagonist of my next story>it's an aquatic mon with no legsWell, this will certainly be a challenge. Are there any fics that spend a lot of time in the water that I can use for inspiration?
>>56782910For me, the point of slice of life is to ground the world and pull the reader in. sure, it's nice to imagine your characters fighting epic battles and competing in a global bloodsport to see who's the very best like no one ever was, but what's around it? How does the world work and behave when there's no apocalyptic crisis or the tournament season ends?I find it incredibly fun to find out just how you supposedly live everyday life with a sentient rock, or a firebreathing cat, or a psychic floating baby. Maybe your Golbat is the one to fly over to the grocery store to pick up groceries, carrying a basket in that big mouth. Maybe your Ariados crawls around the attic frightening the other bug types that manage to get in.It's seeing how mundane life is different by the addition of Pokémon that contextualizes the story, gives you a basis for the setting and turns the big spectacle moments believable. As a reader, I want to be immersed in this fantastic world, to have a picture be painted in my mind by the authors words and descriptions so I can clearly imagine how the world functions and, therefore, can more easily imagine myself inserted there so I can fully appreciate the bombastic stuff that happens.It might be a bit cringe, but I'm a sucker for feel-good moments that just show mundane routine with a touch of the fantastical, because that's what I wished for as a kid: to live in the world of the cool magical monsters and be able to interact peacefully with them.
>>56784045All I can think of is one fic called "Shiver me Timbers" or something like that. It's mostly about sailing and pirates but I remember there were quite a few underwater sections
>>56782797The hack is Fire Red: Team Rocket Edition (colonelsalt's version, not the spanish one) The plot will be about a homeless girl getting recruited into team rocket and learning how to have friends and trust people. Got about 15k written so far, posting it on the nuzlocke forums using a new account. (Categorized as "mature" on the site but desu it's tame for my usual fare) A main character is about to murder a rocket grunt in cold blood in the scene i'm writing, so we'll see if that gets it banned or not lmaoI'm going with it. All it ended up amounting to is that instead of taking place during FRLG, my fic takes place 10 years later. Instead of Red and Blue I'll just put OCs in to fill the space in the plot they occupy. Hell, I'm writing the mt moon sequence right now and as it stands they don't even have to show up. I might even be able to write them out of the plot entirely
>>56784380>FemMCB--B-Based.
>>56785131I don't do self-inserts much, it's boring to write MCs that look exactly like you every time, isn't it? This approach ends up with me writing more female MCs than male, but oh well
I want to give my MC a Grass-type that will serve him as a support type Pokemon who's more about battlefield control, status effects, and restricting the mobility of enemies. I'm in a position where I could have Sycamore give him a Bulbasaur, but would that be too boring and overdone? I was thinking about whether an Oddish that eventually evolves to Vileplume might be more fun.
>>56785249>Not being able to self-insert as the little girlNever gonna make it.>it's boring to write MCs that look exactly like you every time, isn't it?I mean, that's not quite exactly the point of self-insert type characters. It's never been supposed to be literally literally you, and those are very noticeable, with Evil Trainer being the first example that comes to mind.Honestly, I think the FemMCs, SI or not, don't work and aren't popular so you should always write a Male one is cope. Vicky is one of the most popular fics out there and the MC is a lol so random little girl.>This approach ends up with me writing more female MCs than maleSo you have more FemMC fics? Share the goods, my dude.>>56785288Pokemon that learn Spore could be good fits.Meganium line if you wanna have uniqueness hipster points.Whimsicott is an obvious one too.Check defensive grass types, I guess?
>>56785327>self-inserts don't have to be literally youI mean I guess. I never really got into them, though, either reading or writing. Even as a kid I preferred when stories didn't try to pull me in and I could just read the story with one more interesting character as opposed to one less with a boring-ass self-insert>'always write male MC' is a copeAgree. Girls are better anyway>share the goodsokay so unfortunately, I won't be doing that. It was mostly smut and I've since deleted it all, I don't want to write porn anymore. Plus blue board.The rocket fic is a good way to transition me out of fics filled with sex into something more plot-based for the plot's own sake rather than as a vehicle to the next sex scene, ya dig?
>>56785407You can post NSFW text in blue boards though
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14397816/4/Pok%C3%A9mon-In-Mine-Ownhttps://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/153373792New chapter of my fic is up. Chien-Pao and Celot have all but beaten Kuzey and his allies, but can things make a turn when the strongest trainer in Lumiose City arrives on the scene?As always, any feedback you can give is greatly appreciated!
>>56785327Vicky is popular cause of the metaknowledge meme.>>56786117I'm just going to read his name as Shallot.
>>56786284>I'm just going to read his name as Shallot.Even on the Pokemon board I'm kneeling the Dragon Ball chads...
>>56786117A minute's skim of the first chapter looks good, but I'll wait till there are more chapters before I begin actually reading. Seems like there's an actual story here so I'd rather not treat it like fast food per-chapter SI slop
>>56786284>I'm just going to read his name as Shallot
>>56786284Plenty of fics with the metaknowledge meme that flop.Why Vicky did not despite the supposed female MC debuff?
>>56786620Not enough that get as aggressive as vicky about it. She got two fully evolved psuedos(in her universe) handed to her in the span of a few chapters who were able to go toe to toe with the real team of some gym leaders.
>>56786620They already wrote some successful fics so they have an established fanbase and they write a lot and often.Vicky's writer makes close to triple what nutrition man does on their patreon.
>>56786720The secret to indie writing these days is vast amounts of quantity with passable quality. I sure as hell couldn't do it.t. wrote 15k on his project this weekend
>>56786700>>56786720Has no one here read Vicky?You'd think it would get shitposted a shitton more based on this.
>>56786759I got up to the point where Sabrina became a companion and lost interest because of Sabrina burnout. Just tired of seeing fics spend so much time putting her through friendship therapy.There's plenty to meme on but the writing is so sloppy that I'd rather take swings at something that tries to take itself more seriously like Borne of Nutrition. Like, fuck. Just try reading vicky and you'll see what I mean.
>>56786779Is Sabrina really that used?
>>56786863In the handful of kanto fics I've read, yeah. No idea how it is in the grander scheme of things
>>56786863She's by far and wide the most accessible option. And also honestly the most interesting too.Just think about the Kanto waifu candidates and you'll see why she's always the one being picked.Misty? Too related to Ash, feels awkward even if on gameverse settings.Erika? Lesbian.Whitney? Annoying womanchild.Clair? Hurt people fee fees when they were kids and are still butthurt about it to this day.Jasmine could actually work but she's so very well defined there's not much you can go with her.Meanwhile Sabrina is the hot long hair black lady with psychic powers that's got like a gorillion interpretations through all sorts of medias giving her a wide-range of possible personalities. Massive "I can fix her" potential between things like her anime portrayal, and her psychic powers in general which can lead to simple storylines like her being a sperg because she focused on them to the point of neglecting all other aspects of her life.And if you wanna take it a step higher, there's Agatha, Lorelei and Karen but Agatha's a granny and Lorelei and Karen being E4 makes it really hard to justify unless your MC is already an E4 or something putting them on similar circles.Sabrina being the first and topmost choice makes perfect sense.
>>56786943Oh shit I forgot about Janine. Well, says everything there's to say about her.Also she's ugly.
>>56786943>Erika? LesbianIs this a common trope? Do people really run with the whole “her gym is filled with women” to the point where we all just accept she fucks women?
>>56786968Surprised you haven't seen it before. I'm not gonna say it is universal but it is common enough.
>>56786984I was brainstorming a setting where Erika ran a brothel out of the basement of her gym, I did imagine women going there to sleep with the girls, too, but that was more because of the nature of the setting than it being Erika specifically. Ended up scrapping the fic without writing a word so I was surprised my “idea” seemed to border on trope status. Guess I should be more surprised I’d never heard of it before, you’re right.
>>56786957Stupid haircut aside she's cute and a ninja, perfect bait for aurafags who like Naruto
>>56787057>>56786957For some reason I always thought Janine looked like a younger Clair. Says a lot
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>>56786943>Erika? LesbianDamn it all.
>>56787390>He can't fix her LolLmao even But seriously, its not like your gonna get cancelled by making her straight in any story, PokéSpe Erika was interested in Red iirc so just use that if you do it one day because I assure most won't even care about checking out if that's true
>>56786968I remember hearing about Erika being gay (secretly or openly) at least as far back as like 2005, and not just in fanfic circles.
>>56787781That was thanks to that NPC outside her gym saying how Erika liked being surrounded by pretty girls because there wasn't even a single male in her gym, right?
If your journeyfic main characters aren't 12 or younger, you're doing it wrong and should immediately correct your mistake or choose a different franchise. Lewd fics are no excuse.
>>56788039But what happens if the story is set after their journey?
>>56788050I just hate when people age the entire setting up so trainers have to be 18, or similar absolute idiocy that makes me question why it's even a Pokemon story. Pokemon should be about kids. It's the whole point and appeal of the universe. Adults obviously exist, so you could write about them if you really wanted to, but you're going to have more difficulty coming up with a compelling theme and development for them, because what Pokemon does best (finding oneself, personal growth, coming-of-age, learning from mistakes, learning to trust others, all those common youth themes) doesn't work as well when your character should have already done all their developing offscreen before page 1.
>>56788039Hmmph, who invited this youngster trainer into the 18 Badges realm? Since you came, then stay forever! Your absent father will celebrate your death's anniversary in exactly one year's time!
>>56786620Her dao of metaknowledge received a knowledge update in-universe to keep up with the latest Pokémon news.
>>56786779What characters do you guys have burnon for and would like to see more in fics?
>>56788348At least smartphone isekais have the excuse of reading the latest news on their phone when it comes to updating their MC's knowledge base.Shit on Nutritionboy all we want, at least he's remaining ignorant about newer gen stuff.
>>56786759As someone who has no goddamn clue who Vicky is, you don't have to have read something to understand it's failings when it comes to fanfiction.I'm assuming I'm not missing much.
>>56788039No.
>>56788102I think it can be done, and no, aging the entire setting is just stupid. My idea, if I ever get it written down, is that the SI would be more or less compelled to chaperone one (or a couple) youngsters when they journey about. So the journey is for the kids, the grumpy old man is just along for the ride to make sure they don't die and/or suffer permanent physical damage. At the same time, seeing the young'uns experience all that growth makes him question his own past developement.Not to mention that some of the things you put there, like learning from mistakes and to trust others isn't something limited to youth, especially given someone having to learn on the fly to live in a world very different from their own.
>>56788916I’ve done it before due to like, site rules where I was posting that particular story, but desu I still wrote the characters as though they were younger. Nobody has ever questioned it, which makes me wonder about those peoples maturity
>>56788928It's just a formality for sites that ban underage stuff. I've seen HP fics age up characters to adult age but they still go through the same plot and act like complete children mentally. The authors never take into account how adding more years would effect their character (hermione being a friendless nerd for longer, harry growing up TRAPPED and BETRAYED in the DURSLEY PANTRY, etc). There's also the setting consequences of doing this like how pureblood students would have a far greater advantage compared to mudbloods just introduced to magic. I bring up HPshit only as an example, you could still make this type of change work but you'll have to change A LOT more alongside that if you want to write something serious.
>>56788102>Pokemon should be about kids. It's the whole point and appeal of the universe. That might be the root of your personal interest, but it's a big leap to say it's the point of the universe.
>>56789117The whole root of the core concept of Pokemon is the idea of kids having adventures outside in summer catching bugs and fucking around that encompassed Tajiri's childhood. That sort of freedoom only kids can experience, or used to experience at the very least, since even by the nineties kids being allowed to do that sort of thing was ending.This one post I saw a while ago really activated my almonds regarding this matter, specially how the newest gens have this "adult supervision/summer camp/scavenger hunt" sort of vibe, not a real adventure, not real freedom, but something "supervisory figures set for you to go through, carefully curated, full of restrictions so that nothing goes off the rail, not an adventure of freedom anymore.Hell, you can actually even see this on the Liko anime.It's definitively a different kind of vibe.
I for one agree with Sugimori.>"Shouldn't it be about the deep bond with Pokémon?"I think it was Sugimori.All fanworks should take these words to heart.Ignore women,Ignore trainers,Ignore focus on humans.Acquire deep bond and pokepussy. Praise Arceus.
>>56789284Yeah, I deeply agree with that too.Seeing Sugimori complain about that also activated my almonds.It made me realize that the fics I like the most are the ones that do focus on that the most. Hell, even the shipfic that I like the most that made me become utterly obsessed with the ship, had heavy focus on that Pokemon/Human bond and made it play a big part on the events.
>>56789284If Sugimori wants Pokémon to be about the bonds, then he should start by telling that to TPC.>Twilight Wings made a giant deal out of Galar's trainers and their voice actors>Iono's announcement made little to no effort on tying her to Bellibolt>Paldean Winds was more of the same shit but with OCs>the anime tries to make it look like Liko, Roy, and Dot should all bond with their Pokémon, but the focus is too much on personal stuff involving their families and shit>the games themselves don't put enough effort when half the point of Kieran's plot is about getting his grudge match with the player and he even goes as far as leaving his old team at home to replace them with competitive monsters>Project Bauer (the movie Sugimori and Iwao were complaining about) might not even be completely out of the picture, since leakers are making a big deal about an incoming game event, and chances are it relates to the new mythical they wanted to release with itIf those heads at Game Freak hate the human focus so much, then they should step up their game. When was the last time they made you care about the mons you catch?
>>56789364I mean, isn't that exactly the issue? That there's massive communication issues within the company and everyone's just doing whatever the fuck they want to the point even the synergy between various mediums for the sake of shilling and marketing and what-not is falling apart. All while the roots of the franchise become more and more forgotten as time passes.God knows on how many other meetings hat Sugi complained about this too that we don't know about.Sugimori's just one dude at the end of the day too, even if he's pretty high on the ladder there's only so much he can do too, and we all know how fuckawful Japanese business company bureaucracy is.
>>56789364They are focusing on human trainers to have sex appeal to sell to creepy weirdos. It's foolish.What they need to be made understand is that they already have Pokémon, they already have massive sex appeal to sell right there, to chads.
>>56789284>Ignore womenBut then how do I write sex??
>>56789284All that falls apart the moment you take a look at MasterSex tho which is Sugimori's prívate project
>>56788039Mine's 15, is that close enough?
>>56788973The defense of “but we aren’t doing CP” is probably legally defensible though, even if the characters within are acting like absolute children even if they’re “supposed to be 18” or whatever. They’re doing it for the wrong reasons though, those types are concerned about 17 years, 360 days and 18 years 3 days couples getting together for… reasons… while also encouraging child genital mutilation. Someone explain this phenomena, is it standard-grade doublethink or something more?
>>56790296Those people don't run on logic, anon.Don't try to make any sense of how they run or their actionsbecause there's only "feelings" behind everything they do and say.
>>56789998Maybe in Unova or Kalos.
>>56786779>Just tired of seeing fics spend so much time putting her through friendship therapy.But there is not really such fics! All they do at best is several scenes with her and then everything else is behind the scenes! I hate Hard enough and its shitty ripoff for their timeskip of jorney with Sabrine, I want to read meticilous autistic slice of life with mentally impaired psychic for several hundred thousands words and all I got is just some shitty snippets ot rushed shit which feels like synthetic slop!
>>56791049I actually have something for you.It's yuri with Erika though. Not SI Isekai slop either.
>>56786943Tbh correcting Whitney's brattiness would probably work out.As for the E-4 girls, it's not like Cynthia, Flint, and to a lesser extent Lance didn't set a precedent for league higher up fucking around and teaming up with total fucking randos."Trainer Whoever gets into a bustup with Team Rocket right with Lorelei did as well" or whatever is a functional enough starting point, though Lorelei also has the whole teacher/pokemon expert thing in the anime where they called her Prima, which can allow a lot of possible interpretations. Just off the top of my head you could play it straight, could have her being incognito for whatever reason, could even make a moderate joke out of her shilling a series of Pokemon for Idiots books essentially. And it'd allow for a pretty easy way to bring her into a plot.Also I gotta say that >>56786996had a pretty great idea with Erika, making her into a brothel madam/cuckquen would make for some S-tier smut.
>>56791111Hard pass.
>>56788102One write up I played around with was a broke guy who had to put off his journey to raise his siblings on account of being orphaned so he was starting his journey as a somewhat shady ex-businessman in a region where the evil team was essentially the Ghost-Fairy mafia.
>>56791126Your loss.
>>56786943The anime had its Battle Frontier in Kanto so why not use them? Glowie Anabel is a faller so if you bring her up there's still normal Anabel
>>56791145No fucking one gives a shit about the Battle Frontier characters outside of Brandon and Palmer being a very distant second.You're just saying so yourself, when people think of Anabel USUM Anabel is the first that comes to mind.
>>56788356NTA but despite being wildly popular for porn, Hex Maniacs of any variety are actually relatively rare to see used as the basis for a character. Just speaking of rarity, Bruno is so fucking unused that it's practically a meme, even in E-4 heavy fics he's just "the big guy". Lorelei is also exceptionally rare.Despite being one of the most distinctive Hoenn gym leaders I don't think anyone ever does anything with Roxanne, but then Hoenn kinda has the whole "May Baggage" thing with Norman, admittedly, along with the world shaking plot thing going on. As much as I love them I will admit Regions 3-8 all having doomsday big time plots does kinda make it feel like you're almost wasting the setting to not use if only because of how it kinda looms in the background if you actively don't engage with it. That's 1 thing that I'll give S/V, nothing happening in it fucking matters at all so you can easily ignore it or reduce it to a relatively short arc without it dominating a fic.Claire is also super fucking unused, despite being one of a rare few gym leaders who actually interacts with you outside of just standing around waiting to get their ass beat and being Lance's cousin or what the fuck ever she is to him and all that.
>>56789152Got a link to that post? Sounds familiar.Me personally I always saw it less as the summer adventures and more as kind of a "finding your place in life" thing, not literally *just* a coming of age thing but more a general growing as a person and chasing dreams, exploring the world for your self thing, it had an element of at least genuine uncertainty as part of the appeal, you didn't know how and where things would end up and all that. The friends you'd make along the way and the adventures that were uniquely yours with gyms acting as concrete indicators of progress and touch stones, and the villains being kind of the thing that let you decide to step up and be more than just anybody. Gen 7 deemphasized the journey a bit but compensated for it mostly by focusing more on the villain plot, but 8 and 9 both go hard on reducing the league and the journey to kind of a field trip.
>>56789387>and we all know how fuckawful Japanese business company bureaucracy is.You'd think Game Freak proper wouldn't be suffering this, given like half its problems are from refusing to grow the staff to suit the expectations of a headline console release.>>56790296>Someone explain this phenomena, is it standard-grade doublethink or something more?To my understanding, it is worldview decohesion from that "side" being dominated by the swirling cacophonies of the Internet. They think one thing about one thing in one context, and another thing about another thing in another context, then never actually consider the two in relation to eachother to realize the wild contradictions in underpinnings.
>>56791244GF having issues with this can be traced back to Ohmori. All his games have been very human focused and he's basically the next big boss man person. Put two and two together and the source becomes obvious.The cancer was already inside and it's only now that has become apparent.
>>56791325>Ohmori directs X and Y>includes the fireworks scene that got many fans into wanting romance in Pokémon>Ohmori directs ORAS>turns the platonic relationship with May and Brendan into almost-blatant romance>Ohmori directs SM>inserts the entire Lillie story filled with shipping shit and family matters, plus the stuff involving Anabel where Looker and Nanu constantly worry about her getting killed by UBs>but Iwao dials it back in USUM, eliminating the more romantic elements in Lillie's story, and sidelining Anabel in favour of the forgettable Ultra Recon Squad>Ohmori directs SwSh>the romance is non-existent, but in its place, they put shit like Leon wank, Sonia's focus on becoming a history expert, everything involving Marnie and Piers, and Peony and Peonia (and they still claimed the story would be about "muh bonds with pokeymans" lol)>BDSP isn't affected because it wasn't made by GF>but in Legends, Iwao once again dials back concerns on humans with the exception of Volo, whose whole deal is tied to Arceus>Ohmori directs vanilla SV>plot is filled with human-focused shenanigans like Arven and his parents, Nemona's reputation, and Team Star's bullying>the DLC is handled by two entirely different guys>but they put little to no effort in dialing back human focus, as can be seen with KieranGive it some time and human focus will become normalised soon. You better hope Iwao and Sugimori gain the power to tard wrangle the staff, and more people on their side, because there won't be any other way around this.
>>56791111>well-written Erika/Sabrina yurinta obviously but I’m in. Link me, anon
>>56791111I wouldn't care if you hadn't gotten quads, now I want it.
>>56786759I haven’t. I have read borne of nutrition and touch the sky though.
>>56777012My very first fic (not pokemon tho), was based on some prompts that an user in AO3 would comment sometimes.
>Chapter 3: Old Friends and New Friendships>Our adventure in Alto Mare continues, as Ash reunites with a flurry of familiar faces! The city he left all those years ago has changed and it's time to see how!AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/59830117/chapters/153439852FFN: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14402750/3/Pok%C3%A9mon-XY-Finding-Something-New
>>56789152One thing I'd like to say is that while I agree the basis of Pokémon is about that young impulse of experiencing the world and discovering it's wonders and maybe your place in it, back then it was relatively new as a series. The whole audience was small children to young teens, so of course the focus would be on the kind of stuff they can relate to. As time goes on, the original fans grow up and lose touch with that, so having some sort of acknowledgement of adults and giving them a way to maybe rediscover that kind of joy (both in-game and out) is inevitable and, in my opinion, not even a bad thing. I do think there needs to be a loosening of the player in the world, but the games showing that there are adults around who sometimes keep an eye on things gives a broader scope look on how the world works and grounds it a bit more, which can be good or bad depending on execution, of course.>>56789329This is what really calls to me in this franchise as well. People of all ages who either have journeyed around or are in the process of bonding and becoming as a family with their Pokémon companions and how their shared experiences unite them. The wonder of the Pokémon isn't something exclusive to youngsters, it's just easier for them to be impacted by them.People and Pokémon come together in a variety of ways, from the mundane to the ultra ambitious, but always with that sense of amazement about these magical creatures and how they inhabit the world. A tale of conquest and fighting success can be as compelling as a sleepy story of how one came to know their pet of mass destruction and they slowly bonded over a love of music, or a food, or even because they each separately met in their different routines for a long time.It's the harmonious living between people and 'mons that pulls me in, so I'm not super rigid on the age thing.
>>56792023Say, is your fic gonna have actual Latiasfucking? I ended up seeing stuff on your Twitter when the Teraleak stuff was still fresh and started to wonder if all that stuff was gonna stay separate from the fic itself and was your delusions/headcanons in general or will be part of the fics themselves.
>>56789549This is the worst part of it. They barely characterize the humans at all despite "focusing"on them. It's all merch/gacha sales.
>>56791650>>56791730https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12885979/1/Erikahttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/13250280/1/SabrinaHere you go.Hope you enjoy these as much as I did.
What are folk's opinions on PMD fanfics? Any cringe points in the universe that instantly make you lose interest?I have one in the works, but sometimes it feels like I'm toeing the line by squishing PMD, mainline game, and anime mechanics to make certain things work. That & I have a scene where a normal pokemon ambushes a legendary and is able to overpower them (with extensive preparation and powerups) but just know some folks will probably find fault with that and it's made me rewrite that part like 5 times.
>>56793098>PMD ficsEvery single one of them is immensely cringe, there’s no escaping it, anon. I’m sorry >folks will find fault with (BLANK)Are these folks paying you? If not and you like how a scene turned out, fuck them all. If there’s no money in it for you, write for you. Fuck all the attention you may or may not get from it, make the story yours. Those that like it will like it, those that won’t, wont. You won’t truly sway that many people by pandering, and those you do sway are fake fans anyway
>>56793129God damnnit you're right.I am cringe, but I am free!
>>56793098>but just know some folks will probably find fault with that and it's made me rewrite that part like 5 times.It's your fic, dude.You wanna know the thing? For every person who finds shitmon overpowering legendary cringe there will be a dozen who will find it cool and epic and based and think wow it's like the vgc meme squirrel Karen was right.You see how much we laugh and make fun of SI Isekai Power Fantasy Slop, but you know what? Everyone here is consooming it anyway, even if ironically, and there's hundreds if not thousands of people who do eat it up unironically and beg for more like starving ravenous beasts.Honestly, how can you compare the comments on random faggots on ff.net or ao3 when you're living on this absolute hellhole of a board that should've already immunized you against a hundred type of different aids?Like, fuck man, you're actually trying to justify the legendary getting fucked over and trying to make it logical. That alone puts you in the 0.01% of writers.Just write your shit no fucks given.
>>56789284Human world, human stories, human conflicts. Pokemon are cute accessories at best. Nobody barring furfags wants to relate to the struggles of a magic dog.
>>56793098I've read a few and liked them but I have yet to read one that wasn't cringe in a worse way than non-PMD fics.>That & I have a scene where a normal pokemon ambushes a legendary and is able to overpower them (with extensive preparation and powerups) but just know some folks will probably find fault with that and it's made me rewrite that part like 5 times.If an ant were to ambush me, I would have shaken them off without even noticing they were there. Ten, and I would sneer and flick them away. A hundred, I would purge them with a artificial poison breath. A thousand, and I would follow them home to slaughter their entire clan.But it depends on what legendary. I can see some "legendaries" jobbing to a well-prepared and perfectly executed ambush, but if you're dropping on Rayquaza with nothing but a level 20 eevee and a few gravelrocks, then there will be some disconnect with the readers.
>>56793156lmfao bro has never had a pet he was able to bond with and love unconditionally and understand that not everything has to be about themselves baka
>>56793152Yes, Jack, free yourself of the memes!
>>56793165Most of us made human friends nigga, and didn't end up imprinting emotionally and sexually unto our pet labrador.
>>56793156>Human worldIt's literally called the Pokemon world.Arrogance like this is why granddaddy arceus decided to nuke humans.
>>56793238*grandmommy*gilf
>>56793098The problem with PMD stories is that in 99% of them the protagonists have no agency. They have amnesia, just don't know how to do anything and can't seem to learn on their own, they don't know anything about the world, they join an organization that hand feeds them the plot, their only personal motivation is learning why they got isekaid or going home which are entirely unactionable, etc. PMD writers find the cookie cutter intro irresistible and don't realize it's a paved path to a passive protagonist, just like in the actual games.
>>56793238>What is this ridiculous insolence? You mean to deny your creator his most sacred delight, insignificant creatur—>P-pwease more pokepuffs mwaster, no I won't use my swewous voice again mwaster, don't make me sleep outswide in the wain pwease...
>>56793365Only a superior being can find delight in lowering themselves to another's level. A man can pretend to be a dog for joy, but a dog can never pretend to be a man. Like this, Arceus stands above all.Insinnoh Celeshallah. May his light guide the lost auras.
>>56793342To be fair this exact thing is why I'm writing my story from the perspective of the partner pokemon, who - thanks to the machinations of the villians - is meeting their human far after they should. The human has been living in the pokemon world for a while. Long enough to develop a personality at least.Hoping this angle breaths some freshness into mine at least.
>>56793373*her
I highly recommend "When I Win the World Ends": https://archiveofourown.org/works/57689716/chapters/146811931Fantastic worldbuilding and sense-making of the competitive battle scene centered on an inter-regional pokemon league.
>>56793342>99% of the protagonists have no agencyI avoided that in my PMD story for this exact reason, and is a big reason why I tend to not read other PMD fics. I wish people made more PMD stuff that didn't have that start.
>>56793570No, Cynthia survives to the end of the story
>>56793562You really have to sell it to us more than on just the concept, specially so since fics focused on those two things tend to be awful messes. Ever Play Competitive comes to mind.How tourneyfaggy it is? Smogon? VGC? Karenfag? Anime? Pokespe? How inter-region it is? Everyone hates one another? Do they get along? Who're the main/core cast? Is it isekai slop? Aura? Gay or straight? Redwank? Cynthiawank?
Oh good, shaun got banned finally. It's temporary, but it's something.
>>56793365Arceus (the pokemon that looks like a llama thing, the one that you can catch in a pokeball) is not a god. It is a small piece of a god. The creator refers it to as "one of its hands" when it lets a mortal use it. The creature would presumably have the same general behavior and demeanor as a typical pokemon, and the fact that it doesn't act "god-like" is in no way reflective of the overall being's nature or demeanor.
>>56793728Arceus is literally Arceus just larping as a Pokemon.It's no different from those super richfag businessmen who hire a high class SM prostitute for them to get dominated sexually to relax from their everyday stress and responsibilities. Hell, Arceus even says something like "my dude you're super duper da bes I totes made the best choice in chosen one lemme give you a piece of (me) so I can go chill out with you because of how fun (you) are."
>>56793745It's more a Hindu Incarnation thing, reflects important aspects of the source-god but acting independently to such an extent that it can bother said source-god.
>>56793809A bunrei would likely be the most accurate approximation.
Reburst could have been so Kino if they used Fate's card system, because while I hate Fate that was cool just like in SCC
Are there any fics where the MC is part of a villain team, but he doesn't turn into the good guy at the end, and isn't tortured by his evil deeds, and he isn't brooding and boring throughout? Any fics where being a criminal is FUN?
>>56794427I only know of two. One I dropped because it decided to take game mechanics literally and the other HASN'T GOTTEN AN UPDATE IN AGESHELLO? WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE IS THE MEOWSTIC CRIME GIRL? REEEEEEEEE
>>56794427Being a criminal is not fun. Turning your back on society, hurting others that are struggling just like you are, will never bring you peace. A temporary thrill perhaps, but nothing long term or meaningful. But you know this already.
>>56794427I don't know, any evil team can be pretty fun if your MC actually thinks about their plan for a couple of minutes
>>56794487The only difference between a criminal and a government is right of law, which is itself entirely artificial.An organized criminal is nothing more than an honest politician. Now pay up your taxes--er, I mean your protection fee
>>56794487>average BOOORING moralfaggot normie upon brutally raping their first hypnotized cutie with the help of their Hypno and killing and eating all her Pokemon (they finally understand the joy they've been missing out on)
>>56794427https://archiveofourown.org/works/21970018/chapters/52425757I read this a bit ago and it sort of fits. Though he turns good in the end due to his co-workers/former friends turning against him in an attempt to make him good. but he's not particularly tortured by his deeds.>>56789284This all largely depends on how the humans are treated in the stories. If it's unending nonsense like teenage romance drama that takes precedence over Pokemon training and worldbuilding, then it's fucking garbage. I'm sure there's some sliding scale of stories where you can describe each end of this.
When youre writing sex and shit, what songs do yall listen to keep your mind focused on what uoure writing, if you do have anything on in the bg?Personally its Cbat and Hit Me With Your Fat Cock
>>56794828>cbatJesus fucking christ. When I imagine the kind of sex scenes I would write, I think "Sharing the Night Together" by Dr. Hook fits the kind of emotion I'm going for. I like to focus on love and emotions when it comes to this kind of thing.
>>56794487That sounds fun dude.I like fucking with others to get ahead (in fiction).
>>56794454Make the ground shake and crime sometimes pays?
>>56795058Crime Sometimes Pays yes but the other one was less GAMER system bullshit and was basically an the nugget bridge rocket grunt NPC from the games IIRC
>>56795067>CHADmer system Picked the fuck up
I just remembered of this old headcanon/fanfic idea from a while back. Nothing ever came from it, but I found it interesting regardless.Gardevoir horns are worth a lot on the black market, and so poachers will often target them so they can remove their horns. Anyone who's ever worked at a Pokemon rescue has likely seen the sad state of the 'voirs left behind by these procedures.
>>56795707Ouch. That pic hurts to look at.
>>56795707It could work, like they're used to awaken psychic powers and richfags buy them in masse
>>56795707Can you fuck the chest hole
>>56795718Now you've just given me the mental image of some old rich guy like Giovanni snorting a line of ground-up Gardevoir horn like it's super-cocaine.
>>56794427I’m literally writing on of those right now. The MC grew up on the streets and had to toughen up to survive. There will be no attempts to “redeem” anybody, nobody has any remorse about their actions, and more or less glorifies life in team Rocket. Potential dealbreaker, since some people act with visceral hatred towards this kind of stuff: Its eventually going to be yuri lmk if you want the link, currently I only have 2 chapters up
>>56795708Gardevoir can learn quite a few physical moves, like ice punch and so on. So they clearly have some level of physical constitution. I imagine that with enough training and physical thereapy, they could learn to function without psychic powers and instead do tasks physically. I doubt they'd be good for fighting, but at least they could take care of themselves.
>>56795806>losing the chest spike makes them unable to sense emotions >It's very crippling, affects their mood and can make them depressed or suicidal >luckily, making direct contact with the hole can transmit primal emotions, like lust>the hole instinctually tightens around dick, trying desperately to regain the horn it once had. >the hole will massage and squeeze cock until ejaculation, as it is an empathetic Pokemon that can sense the urge to get off>plus, the lust is contagious and spreads to it>ends up feeling better than its pussyDespite the horrors of the Gardevoir Spike trade, one can yet see a spark of hope in humanity—Pokemon centers who house these poor victims are filled to the brim around the clock with concerned male trainers, who selflessly donate their lust and semen to these crippled souls, who are so desperate to feel anything at all, and eager to be of help. Just another example of the unbreakable bond between human and Pokemon.
>>56795806It's an open fucking wound, anon
>>56795852It's not that, I just don't like seeing a gaping hole in Gardevoir's chest. It really hurts to look at.
>>56795884A wound open to fucking? Excellent.
>>56795898I didn't even think it was a hole, I thought it was just an ugly scar
>>56795707What the fuck can I use a Gardevoir horn for? Le "Black Market" doesn't mean pawn shop.
>>56795875>In other news, following our previous week's coverage of the subject, scientists have discovered a SHOCKING revelation in Gardevoir behavior >When brought to observe the heart-warming coupling between human men and their spikeless kin, reactions ranged from extreme disgust and nausea, to inexplicable rage, wherein they attempted to violently attack everyone in the vicinity>In some cases, Gardevoir were even witnessed attempting to KILL their crippled kin, in what scientists are attributing to 'mercy killing' efforts>"...this behavior may have arisen out of a, uh, biological imperative to keep a Gardevoir herd free of cripples or defectives, thus incentivizing survival of the group...details are unclear...pokemon really are amazing creatures, there is so much we don't know...">How shocking. The gentle Gardevoir we know and love, are perhaps more cold-hearted than we previously thought. Rest assured viewer, there are no plans to keep spikeless Gardevoir from the treatment they so desperately need. Stay tuned for more updates.
>>56796192>...as I'm sure we all will! Moving on, what's your take on the current hot-button topic, Jasmine? I'm sure the viewers at home are dying to know how you really feel! >Ah, you must be referring to Gardevoir de-spikification, Mary. Yes, well, it's a complicated topic but at its core, I think the experts at Silph and Devon Corp have done their research—>That Gardevoir actually live happier lives without their spikes? >Yes, exactly. They're much more joyful being taken care of by humans, without having to process so many complicated feelings all the time. Plus, their spikes can be processed to boost human psychic ability and to make medicine, so that's a happy coincidence! >And what of the public outcry of several high-profile trainers, such as—>Look, nobody's saying Gardevoir will leave the competitive scene altogether. You can still train Spiked Gardevoirs and they can still be happy battling for their trainer, but I don't think the idea of rounding up Gardevoirs and making mass farms is as immoral as some people paint it. I think they should be open to new ideas and research. >Ah, like the recent discovery that Slowpoke don't actually feel pain, and the writhing observed when their tail is cut off is simply the twitching of their nerve cells.>Exactly! And they're super delicious! I'm actually starting a partnership with Silph to sell my very own brand of Slowpoke—>Hold that thought, Jasmine. It seems like it's time to introduce today's sponsor, Devon Corp!Just felt like shitposting, idk
>>56796128Same thing people use stuff like rhinoceros horns and pangolin scales for in real life, anon. Chinese traditional medicine, alternative treatments, gas station boner pills, and other such assorted forms of snake oil.
Do you like your Gardevoirs circumsized, /vp/?
>>56796381I'm not so I don't think I'll be doing that, can't perpetuate something I wouldn't do to myself.Anyways time for a shitpost one-shot where John Kellogg gets isekai'd and starts trying to circumcise Pokémon.
>>56793342Need an Overlord style PMD fic where the clueless protagonist pretends he knows what's going on and becomes a mastermind guild leader entrapped by his own lies and bluster.
>>56792126Nah, Ash and Latias aren't getting together in my work. FSN isn't really a shipping fic, it's a journey fic. End game is Ash and Serena!
>>56796854Fucking lame
>>56796871If it's any consolation, I am going to bait the heck out of it. (Preview for the next Ash chapter)
>>56796854Careful anon, it's only gay if balls touch
>>56796854Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I'll make sure to keep reading without worry then.
Interesting new story on FFN
>>56793562Now that I've finished reading this, I can only say that your summary is extremely far from the story's main appeal. It is a good story, though. I do not regret the time spent reading it, which is just about the highest praise fanfiction can earn. Recommendation definitely seconded. It's not really about competitive Pokemon, like at all, except in the extremely meta sense where the villain's motivation can be read as an allegorical condemnation of competitive metagames in general. It is a tournament story, but with like 99% of what's interesting coming from the character drama, philosophy, and drip-feed mystery plot that goes on in the background. To spoil things a bit more for those still not convinced: it's mostly about the philosophy of doomsday cults and why they constantly pop up in the seemingly-uptopian Pokemon world, and features a fan-favourite villain taking a second stab at things long after their original plotline.
One of the upcoming characters in my fic is a struggling apprentice of Kurt's, so he's very much craftsman-focused and less on battling. Do we know exactly what goes into Pokeball crafting? I wanted to give him mons that could conceivably help him in the process.
So how exactly do we write Zekrom and Reshiram? Do they go to those with the ancient King's bloodline? Because if it was just muy strong truth/ideals they would change hands pretty damn fast and Unova would be a warzone most of the time
*Sexkrom and Ravishiram
>>56797208Legends Arceus is the closest we've had to any kind of look at Pokeball crafting, and all you can do there is basically intuit from the materials (apricorns, stones, and iron) and the visible tools on the workbenches and in the crafting kit (hammers, chisels). The descriptions of the tumblestones at least make it clear that there's some Poke-magic involved, so we know the balls are not just mechanical.
>>56789549>creepy weirdosWhere do you think you are?
>>56797265After their chosen champion dies they bail and take an orb nap. They only awaken after some minimum period of decades/centuries when someone who passes their respective vibe check obtains their orb. Region folklore suggests the chosen champions are fated, once in a lifetime embodiments of their virtues, but in reality their standards are only moderately high.
>>56791182>Hex Maniacs of any variety are actually relatively rare to see used as the basis for a character.She has some fics though, right?
>>56797208From the games, which are the only true canon: What the other anon said. Something to note is that the one or two "chunks of iron" are for enhanced versions of the base ball. https://www.serebii.net/legendsarceus/crafting.shtmlFrom the anime, which isn't canon but still worth referencing for whatever the games don't cover: we know they heat the apricorn up in a furnace and that it's a very tedious and exact process.
>>56797453>the chosen champions are fated, once in a lifetime embodiments of their virtuesUnrelated but I really hate how nowadays its muh chosen one shit, the anime was bad about though it was mostly the dub and the whole Dexholders wank in the manga got annoying but in the games is aweful
>>56797526>in the games is awefulLegends Arceus is the only one where you're a chosen one though?Other than technically Galar where a case could be made that Leon chose you. Fuck Galar.
>>56797572Paldea bro, the DLC
>>56797575Where was it ever stated you were a chosen one?
>>56797572>>56797575Also N believes both he and the player are chosen ones, though to be fair he might just be wrong. He's a little deluded.
>>56797593Ghetsis was the leader of a cult that he secretly intended to use to take over the world. N was raised by Ghetsis to be their saint king. N was more than just a little deluded, he was practically brainwashed.
>>56793098Make slice of life. PMD is like perfect fantasy setting with mons, just do not use all that "worldsaving shit" and be happy, I've read this fic and loved it exactly for no high-stakes conflicr without any teams or evil enteties and their planshttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/14211933/1/PMD-Heroes-of-the-Past
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