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GIVE ME MISTYS
im depressed*buys more packs*
>>56863363>im depressed and lonely>takes 10 pictures in caffes and puts them on tiktok
FUCK YES
oops all heads
OH BOY A CARD I CAN'T USE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE COMMON BASIC what the FUCK are these rarities
frostmoth or weezing for a wigglytuff deck?
How do you put cards on showcase for people to see and like?
>>56863381SameGonna have to craft some Kadabra
>>56863382>>56863381>>56863377>>56863370>>56863366>>56863363>>56863355chu chu chu chan chan
Why won't they join me?
>Blaine.dek>Arbok/Pidgeot>Venusaur EX>Rapeape (Forma de promo) Which deck do we run with today bros
this game is fucking boring >open 2 packs and get no repeats >only thing to do is unranked online battles yawn
>>56863402As a free-to-play player I expect to be up and running for online battles in about 5 months of daily pack openings.
???
>>56863408You need lightning or colorless energy bro
>>56863408retard chama?
>Pikachu Ex and Zapdos Ex player>Concedes to my Lapras ExYes, fuel my ego more.
>>56863392true tha k you
I'm so sorry ponyta bro...
>>56863438b-b-b-based
>doing 2 alt accounts to get venusaur ex by wonderpicking on my main account>got almost the entire mewtwo deck on bothdisgusting give me my plant boy NOW
I think Dragonite SUCKS!
>>56863394Why are they both in the same pose.
>okay THIS time I'm REALLY going to save my wonder hourglasses for a good pull>holy shit is that a JAPANESE full art rapidash?!?!?!?! *recover stamina*
>>56863469Language doesn't matter. Just change your own language for foreign cards. Would roll for a FA rapidash though, don't blame you there.
>one copy of every Charmander line including EX>No MoltresWorth keeping or nah?
>>56863353This bitch owes me sex
>>56863353Utility card ranking:Oak>X-speed>Pokeball>Red Card>Rest
>Another game where all my basic pokemon and draw cards are in the bottom 10Is it me or 3 stage evolutions fucking suck? What's even the point of trying to ramp when you can just place a pikachu and deal 90 dmg for only 2 energy
>>56863402>do all the f2p content>have to either wait 23 hours or pay to open a pack which might as well gives me nothing good>or wait like 2 days ? for a wonder pick where its weighted and bad luck protection needs to kick in for you to hit the """""""""""20%"""""""""">que up unranked and its either some silly willy newbie or a rerolling autist or a whale or some tiktok faggot doing videostommorow starts a new fresh league in path of exile, settlers with the necropolis lantern. hop inhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3584433
>>56863501>Is it me or 3 stage evolutions fucking suck?Only way 3 stage pokemon are good is when you pair them with a tank that can keep you from dying while you power them up.
>>56863381Packs only having 5 sucks. I guess they can't put too many because of God packs. It's a good thing promos are mostly reprints.
>>56863525>because of God packslimit the amount of god cards to 5 per pack, problem solved
>>568635013 stage evos are good because they're usually stronger than Pikachu ex while only costing 1 prize. Some of them aren't great, but most of them are well worth it.>>56863513do NOT play path of exile
It's over.
>>56863513>Settlers again>With the dogshit lantern from necropolislol, lmao even
>>56863549FREE BOX AT LVL 50
I bet in two years it's going to be really obvious in hindsight that Porygon was the best card in the format or some shit like that.
>>56863544Good luck getting to your 3rd stage with the 2nd stage at the bottom of your deck
>>56863381I know they obviously didn't introduce trading on day 1 because then nobody would buy packs, but it's laughable there's no CPU guy to trade with that lets you swap your 10 pidgeys for a ralts or some shit.
>>56863563if the next packs will have cards like that
>>56863563Good thing I've been prepping.
Weezingbros, now is your time4662695568576075
>>56863540Imagine being the guy who gets a god pack in WP and chooses the Weedle.
Which?
>>56863596Top right always
>>56863596Choose either Venusaur or Mewtwo, bro. I think that's the right call.
>>56863596Top right. Always top right.
>>568635013 stage mons are considered tempo/midrange/control style decks that if they survive the early game, they basically win late.Pikachu is high aggro. It has to win fast or it struggles with Raichu being a basically one shot nuke to attempt to clutch it out.
>>56863596Bottom right, trust the plan
>>56863605>>56863607Nice thanks
>>56863596I'm hearing top right gets litty
>>56863611That's the thing though, you're not getting to your 3rd evo with 2nd stage at the bottom of your deck with no way to fish it out.
>>56863596Bottom right, you'll be all right
>>56863611>tempo/midrange/controlI totally understand what you're trying to say but you seriously just listed three completely different deck types.
>>56863613It's a sacrifice for the future. You will get a Full Art Mewtwo in a week and it will be top right.
>>56863615Sometimes you brick, oh well. Any card can be stuck at the bottom of your deck, that doesn't make them bad. Charizard and Mewtwo are the second and third best decks in the format.
>>56863596I swear these packs where bugged for wonder pick until the most recent update. I have played since the early NZ launch and have never seen 2 EX in the same pack UNLESS it was 2 of the exact same EX up until now.
>>56863630Mewtwo isn't an evo>GardevoirThe only good one because you never even put her as active, she helps with the wincon but is not mandatory
Does flair dust cap at 9999?
>>56863620It's hard to remember which is which and if they even apply in the usual sense to what is currently available.
>>56863639I have 16k so it's not that at least.
>>56863389You can change the sharing settings in the upper left while editing a binder/display board
>Cheeky ass player uses Wigglytuff Ex>I already got one point earlier, can oneshot everything else on their bench>Have two SabrinasI could hear him screaming bloody murder when I woke up and wiped his board.
>>56863613Ooooof
What decks are you boys playing?
>>56863704im not playing vs people because theres no auto mode inb4 its fun
Name a more based card, pro tip you can't
>>56863704Still Arbok Weezing. New ape meta is hurting tho
Which one of you is this?
>>56863704Egg/Venusaur deck that's basically done (one EX/one normal for both) so I'm opening Zard packs so I can build a Blaine Deck since that looks neat and doesn't rely on ex mons.
>>56863710Have you tried Weezing with Greninja? Pretty fun, lots of chip damage and the ability to snipe mons off the bench when they try to retreat.
>>56863717No, Greninja yet. Currently pulling for Alakazam so I can play that Weez deck
This game is boring as shit when you're not opening packs.
>>56863728Weezing + Alakazam? Never seen those together.
>>56863613See, anon? That's what you get for listening to the poisonous teachings of the Top Right cult. It's not too late for you, however. Come into the light of Bottom Right and you shall be delivered dope cards beyond your wildest dreams.
>>56863596>>56863613https://youtu.be/yCC_b5WHLX0?si=enYgqz8azEsxu76w
>>56863704Venu EX/Lilligant. I'm still missing one Sabrina and another Venu, though. I probably have a Pika EX deck in the back but it's lacking Zapdos for now.
>>56863733What would make the game fun for you friend?
>>56863704Zard x MoltresBut Moltres hardly ever comes out so it's really Zard x Heatmor>>56863775It needs a ranking mode with limited daily plays. Currently winning or losing feels hollow.
I'm a mathlet, whats the odds of getting at least 1 random EX pokemon in a 10 pack box, 30%?
I still don't have a copy of Sabrina and Gardevoir, which one can I replace with these two missing cards?I don't want to spend my points before this collection is over.
>>56863704Butterfree/Beedrill.
>>56863797How is it?
>>56863796Fuck, I mean I don't have 1 card of Sabrina and Gardevoir (18/20).
>>56863804Terrible.
>>56863796>sabrinaany support item>gardoof hard to replace..
>>56863804I like Butterfree as a bench pokemon so far but having 2 stage 2 pokemon is not good.
>>56863784>It needs a ranking mode with limited daily plays. Currently winning or losing feels hollow.Weird that you want to pay for something free. If wining or losing feels hollow you can punch yourself in the nuts very hard every time you lose. Raise the stakes.
This is all the cool stuff I've opened so far anons. How is this?
>>56863704I have a full meta Mewtwo Gardevoir deck, I need Kangaskhans to round out my Dragonite deck, I need Weezings and Muks and 1 more Koga to build my Dark deck (Weezing could also fill my Dragonite deck), I have an Arbok Pidgeot deck, I need Mistys to build a Lapras ex deck, I need Blaines and Ninetales to build a Rapidash deck, and finally I'm working on a Primape deck. F2P btw.
>>56863813>oof hard to replace..I've been waiting for one to come out in the package or appear in WP for days.
>>56863704Rotating between Mewtwo, Blaine and Weezing, Weezing’s probably my favorite of the bunch because it gives the most room to outplay and get back in games
>>56863704tried to play grass deck for my fullart erika, but exeggutor and pinsir being my heavy hitters is not the most reliable strategy, and with my luck not even a very effective onetoday I'm trying out weezing/dragonite, and even though I only have one of each I still managed to win 5 games with it, so maybe I'll stick with that
Is Melmetal a viable deck or nah? I have a bunch of Meltans and a melmetal but I assume the damn rat makes it useless.
This is fucking ridiculous.
>>56863866Some guy placed pretty high in a tournament with one iirc but he didn't winFull steel deck.
>>56863704I doubt I'll play much, if any, actual vs stuff, but if I do it'll always be a Raichu themed deck if it's available.
>>56863704Sweaty pika/zapdos deck. As mad as people get, very few games feel free with this deck. I guess more games feel winnable, though.
My only electrics are two Helyo...whatever and one zebrest...whatever, can this carry me completely during the lapras event? it took down the first two even battles but the EX one looks hard.
>>56863866Melmetal's biggest feature is that it needs to be 3HKO'd from full hp by Articuno ex. It takes a long ass time to actually get out and its damage is decent but it gets 2/1HKO'd by most of the threats, and it has a long time to get ready. And you need to keep Meltan alive. If amass was an ability it would be way better.
>>56863829>Not in Pokedex orderFix it
>>56863892Good thing the raichu deck is semi-decent at the moment.
>>56863896Reroll your account. If you have a good enough deck to not make you reroll, use that.
>>56863898Amass being an attack actually just kneecaps the strategy super hard
>>56863825There's no paying involved?Say everyone gets 5 matches/day, and you get hourglass rewards or promo packs for your weekly/monthly rank. It incentives playing while speeding up resource gathering.
I have a decent enough deck at the moment, I'm just going to open the daily packs for now.But fuck me, this game made me want to replay the gameboy games. Are there any romhacks for them out there, or are they just too niche for that?
>>56863901True. I hope there's a Raichu that isn't an energy dump in the future though.
>>56863796You do know the pack points are only for this set, right? Unless you mean you want to spend your points with anything but the card you posted, there is no reason to hold on to them for the future.
>>56863970That's what I meant. I want to wait until the end of this collection to see which cards are missing from my collection to exchange.
So Gardevoir/mewtwo is the strongest deck?Or what?What's the counter play? Cause they're fucking irritating. Probably need to get pidgetto and aerodactyl to keep yeeting them off the field?
>>56863796Try Meowth or Jynx for Gardevoir. For Sabrina, another Red Card or a Hand Scope to maximize your Red Card.
>They're fighting eachother KINOOOOOOOOOO
>>56863990it's one of, if not, the top deckif not, it's probably pikachu ex or MAYBE articuno ex"best" counters as i'm aware are kobra + pidgeot deck and kobra + weezing deck
>>56863990They struggle with Koga decks, and decks with strong early games. So Koga, Pikachu, and Misty decks are the strongest against them. Arbok Pidgeot is usable against them but kind of sucks.
>>56863948There's infinite fusion which is a pretty good fan game. It's set in Kanto and you can fuse pokemon together
>>56863990Run two Sabrinas instead of one.No idea why more people aren't doing this.
>xdef>negate or halve the next opponent atkthis would help with the m2/pika/starmie 1-2 tap metawould also buff stall also, primeape needed more health to take advantage of his atk, at 80 health you're probably getting 1 shot off
>>56864027I meant the gameboy tcg games, sorry, I should have clarified.
>>56864022>PikachuNot him, and I don’t disagree. I just think I have the worst luck vs Mewtwo with Pikachu. Feels like it’s always me going first and them opening with everything they need.
>>56864043That's uber powerful for control decks. Not sure if that's a good idea. As a Mewtwo player, an extra turn can literally win me the game.
>>56864044Ah, understandable. Never played those so idk
Do you think the miniset will have its own booster or be lumped with the other cards?
>>56864035agreedsabrina is incredibly strong and borderline essential rn
>>56864064new sets get their own boosters. they aren't going to keep adding onto genetic apex.
>>56863990Anything that sets up quickly is gonna give it fits (Koga, Starmie, even Blaine decks). It can steamroll if the Garde comes out early but do what you can to delay their setup, Red Cards and Sabrinas are huge vs Mewtwo decks.
>>56864064own booster probs
>>56863871why
>>56864043probably better to do -20 or -30 to the next attack
>>56864068Running 1-ofs makes no sense. Either you want to see it or you don't
>>56863990Honestly, I've been having an ok time against it with Venu. Depending on draw luck, Lilligant ramps up Grass energy very quickly for Venu and Mewtwo can't one tap it. Especially if you Erika, he has to discard energies and that window is all Venu needs to fold him. Sabrinas help survivability.
>>56864035if the bench is full and I sabrina the active does pidgeot's ability make them pick a different card? or can they return the same active from the start?
>>56864102>can they return the same active from the start?Yes
>>56864043That’s fucking broken, anon. There are so many times I’d like to swing for huge damage but have to retreat and position due to a potential threat on the enemy side. You aren’t proposing a buff to stall. You’re getting yourself punched harder.
Do the packs with a bent corner actually do anything different? Also how are you supposed to spot them outside of just autistically rotating every pack?
>>56864106wouldn't delaying an attack help especially with like lee/greninja/seadra/weezing where they can just snipe the back or keep hitting poison?
>>56863353>>56863392Who's this bitch and why should I care?
56860733It took 12 hours to pop up, but I got it. Thanks anon! I'd have preferred Erika, but I'll happily take Blaine.
>>56864107All the packs have the same cards. Bent corner packs having better cards is illegal iirc.
>>56864107yes they areTRUSTTHEPLAN
>>56864118Fucked up the reply. Meant for >>56860733
>>56864043yeah i don't get the hype for primeape you can probably get 1 mon off the field and that's it and that decks I've seen running him aren't that greathe definitely needed more health for that mechanic
>>56864114It would help a lot of things, but as I read it, the effect would let me sit there and swing with a built-up mon with no fear of consequence. That’s better than x speed in a lot of scenarios.
>>56864107you can see that they're bent without rotating, it's not extremely noticable, but you can see itand they're not actually different from other packs, not only would it be illegal, it was also proven that you get your cards before you even pick a packor at least THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YPU TO BELIEVE, THEY'RE TRYING TO SECURE ALL THE GOODS FOR THEMSELVES
>>56864107they do, just like holding B increases your chances of capturing pokemonso, no, probably notbent packs and reversed packs are probably just a tool to increase engagement and replicate how people have silly pack opening "rituals"
>>56863992Ebin
>>56863992>both leave the other on 10hp after attackingludo
>>56863992>Machamp has to go EX just to stand a chance
Why the FUCK does staryu gain 80 hp and free retreat on evo
>>56864169Because he's a star, unlike you.
Jynx in the Mewtwo deck is so nice bros, went first in the mirror and set up a kill after he Sabrina’d me (xspeed the Jynx->now my first M2 has 4 energy and can take out his M2 with energy on it, this was before I had Garde or even Kirlia but it won me the game). A bulky 1 RC fodder that isn’t your Ralts is exactly what the deck needed.
Odd, my account says is linked to my nintendo account...but the "link to your nintendo account" mission doesn't complete itself.
>>56864169It’s not the most broken or strongest mon but I don’t think there’s any card I like facing less than Starmie EX because there’s such little counterplay, the 90 damage instead of say, 80, gets you so many extra KOs or 2HKOs also
>All my friends are rolling on Pikachu and Mewtwo packsI'm never gonna get the stuff I need, bros.
With such meta decks, is it expected that there will be card balancing or just a norm of very strong decks and it will stay at that power level?
>>56864035>Run two Sabrinas instead of one.>No idea why more people aren't doing this.Because you have to get Sabrina in a booster pack maybe. I've got like 400 cards and only 1 sabrina
>build meta deck>works fine for days>go to farm lapras events>suddenly draw like shit and every card I need is in bottom 4 of deckamazing
>>56864194power crept out or retrained
>>56864194>With such meta decks, is it expected that there will be card balancingIn the "Offering rates" section of the boosters they mention they can adjust/ban cards to ensure a "fair battle enviroment" aka nerfs + buffs are on the tableBut these decks will fall out of favor when stronger cards come out, cards like gard who is a physic energy gen will stay relevant though, she seems so strong and broken if she doesn't get nerfed
>>56864196She's only 70 tho and she fits in every deck
>>56864194>>56864213they just did it for mankey I'm sure we'll see alt cards for existing mons
>>56864192I can't stop rolling pika until I can flare my Raichus.Tell rng to give me a couple more.
>>56864095>Honestly, I've been having an ok time against it with Venu. Depending on draw luck, Lilligant ramps up Grass energy very quickly for Venu and Mewtwo can't one tap it. Especially if you Erika, he has to discard energies and that window is all Venu needs to fold him. Sabrinas help survivability.Like this strategy. I already like grass too. I'll try it out thanks
Bros... The only double EXs I've gotten on my rerolls have been Machamp...I just wanna use CHARIZARD...
What's the water pokemon with the ability that feeds water energy? Is there even one out yet?
>>56864239only misty rn to energy gen
>>56864239It's the Misty trainer card. You get it from Pikachu.
What are all the gen cards?>Misty>Gardevoir>Brock>Meltan>Liligant>Moltress exAny more?
>>56864242>>56864243Oh yea, forgot about misty. Gotta aim for that 2nd one.
>>56864230Promo jiggly too soon lol
>>56864254>Wiggly Weezing will now be even more cancerWhy.
>>56864259at least they're upfront about they're powercreep this early onminiset will probably out class what we have now easily
>>56863940I hope they add a tryhard mode to make you happy and that they leave the current mode for people who are self-motivated.
>Opening Pikachu packs in hopes of, well, Pikachus>Star Squirtle and Snorlax in the same pack>No Pikachu EX in sight>Not even new Star rarities
>>56864227>She's only 70 tho and she fits in every deckDidn't think about that. Thanks
>>56864250magneton
>Play Articuno ex or Lapras ex>Don't get Misty turn 1Rigged ass shit ass bitch ass game, hope it goes EoS soon>Fighting Mewtwo player>Need a Sabrina to win>Don't get a SabrinaFucking cunt ass bitch fuck game, I hate you so god damned much I hope you bleed players.>Mirror match against another Lapras Ex deck>Get Misty first turn, she does what she is supposed to do and overloads me with 10 energy>Opponent concedesThat was neat. .>Pika Ex deck>He's ready to go with three benched pokemon by turn 2FUCK
>>56864277Dare I say... based?
How is a level 31 nigga in the beginners battles why didn't they put a cap on this.
I feel bad because I made me and my opponent play a 23 turn game with my Butterfree/Venusaur healing deck.
>>56864289Level doesn't mean anything. There are shitters who have high levels from opening packs.
>>56864292Did you win
Do you guys pokeball into oak or other way around?
>>56864289Maybe he's trying a new deck
>>56864316Whatever is closer to my finger.
>>56864134>It would be illegalBrother, Nintendo IS the law
>>56863381>have 2x charizard ex + 2x moltres ex>zero charmeleon>have 2x machamp ex>zero machop, zero machoke>have 2x alakazam>zero kadabra
>>56864316If for some retarded reason I'm using pokedex I use that first and shuffle accordinglyOtherwise it doesn't matter
>>56864316>>56864316its situational...if you want to maximize the odds of hitting a specific basic then you oak into pokeballif you already have the basics you need you pokeball into oak to lower the odds of hitting a baisc with the oakisnt it obvious??? like its such a basic strategic concept
>>56864316Always search then draw, otherwise you risk drawing your search targets
They should make truly limited cards. As in drop only like ~10k copies and noone can open more
>>56864316Always search before drawing. What if oak draws your search target and then your pokeball is useless
Are their cards in the tcg that allow you to play an evolved Pokemon and skip the basic and first stage?
>>56864300Yeah. I have drawn my whole deck in every game I've played with Butterfree/Venusaur so far.
>>56864340maybe
>>56864338You should never help in the development of games.
>>56864340rare candy evovles your already on field basic to it's stage 2, skipping stage 1
>>56864332>it doesn’t matter which order you play your cardsOkay retard, let me lay out a common sequence of events. >deck is 4 basic Pokémon>draw 2 in opening hand>draw for turn on turn 1>14 cards left in deck>each draw off oak is a 1/7 to brick your second Pokeball >oak first anyway >draw basic PokémonNow you have a dead card in your deck whereas if you would have used your Pokeball first you could have instead had a much smaller chance of drawing a basic off oak and making your second Pokeball useless. >it doesn’t matterMoron. Have fun losing to bad sequencing and then blaming it on RNG
>>56864359I'm not shit at the game so I can win with any hand, I don't get brickedIt doesn't matter because I'd win anyway
>>56864354Tcg cards are always investments. Wouldn’t you want your account to have value?
how does the TCG handle pokemon who retroactively get a previous evo like Pichu or Munchlax? would future versions of Pikachu and Snorlax need to be evolved into?
>>56864364based GOD
>>56863775It needs a story mode with a cute girl rival.
SIXTH FUCKING PROMO MANKEY I'VE PULLEDWHO IS PULLING THE STRINGS BEHIND THE SCENES? SHOW YOURSELVES, I DEMAND IT.
>>56864366just google it rertard
>Opponent can't stop me from knocking them out>Attacks and then concedesPetty, but a win's a win.
>>56864316Pokeball to get as much basics out of the way in hopes of drawing evos, trainers or items.
>>56864379all me
>>56864389They were hoping for a crit
>pikachu whale has full bench on his first turnoh yay i am having so much fun this is very cool, 140 hp 90 damage basic mon
>>56864335This is the right answer and I'm surprised so many people said to just ball into Oak the whole time. For example, let's say you have Moltres, Charmeleon and a Charizard in hand on the first turn, but no Charmander. It's better to Oak first because of how important it is to evolve on curve. Yeah, sure. You could end up drawing both Charmanders or some shit, but I'd take that if it means minimizing the chance of pokeballing a Moltres and then drawing two traineras
What cards have you flaired?
>>56864416Potion twice for the quest.
How do I stop checking every 5 minutes?
>>56864416Slowpoke. I'm hoping to get the full art Slowpoke soon.
>Start match>Opponent is in "waiting for opponent to return" for like 40 seconds before we even set the board>Takes forever on his turn like turn 1 has some advanced meta play or some shit>Goes back to "waiting for opponent to return" and his turn gets skipped because he waited too long>Get my board set up, end turn>His turn, he STILL isn't back>Eventually the game ends and defaults me a winGet off the game if you're not going to play, fucker. I could've OTK Misty Lapras/Articuno'd against two other opponents in that time.
Do you think a deck of 20 cards is enough or should be at least 30?
>>56864429It's enough because matches are quick. Well, assuming the cards you actually want to pull get drawn instead of them being digital fags that sit at the bottom of the deck, even after it gets shuffled multiple times.
>>5686442920 if we don't get more draws and searches. Otherwise, we need to bump it up.
>>56864416Lilligant, she's pretty common and my favorite Pokemon I have easy access to in the game rn
>Dual Energy deck generation is completely random and not every other turn Greninja/Exeggutor kino killed by the woke agenda, good work DeNa
>>56864416None. Either not enough copies or I don't care for the card
Misty's new power has gone up to her head and turned her into a mesugaki, correction nerf when?
>>5686442920 is fine, maybe perfecti only had 1 game where me and my opponent burned everything in our decks
>>56864439The petals flair for lilligant looks really good but I don't have that many dupes.
>>56864446Based, fuck dual energy fags.
>>56864389Just happened to me too. I guess I do it too sometimes. Dunno why though.
>>56864335>if you want to maximize the odds of hitting a specific basic then you oak into pokeballIf oak succeeds in getting your target then the pokeball becomes a dead card and you're at +0. Even if pokeball fails to get your desired target you will still be at +1 with a thinner deck. The worst case scenario is for oak to get you the target you want because you can't benefit from pokeball. Best case scenario is for oak to fail to get your target and then you get a chance to fish it with pokeball, this is always the scenario when you pokeball first. How you messed up such a simple concept is astonishing.