Gift of giving Edition>Friend ID Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform>Friend ID Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit>Tournament results/decklists: https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Deck Builder: https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder>Datamines, etc.: https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (consider writing a post to recruit players)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex): vpnx>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta>/vp/ anything: vpPrevious thread: >>57132007
First for: I want my own God pack to happen before the year ends
>>57135243So now that the dust has settled can we finally agree that Celebi is in fact a tier 0 deck and that Gyarados isn't that good
>>57135248Yes but the contrary
>>57135253I'd rather not play than using this kekprobably the most boring deck you can concoct
Kill karps. Behead karps. Stretch kick a karp into the discard pile.
>>57135255It does the job against everything when you get the luck.Also it's the only deck that can give you turn 1 win
>>57135257what if 2 bench karps or it moves to the front
>been spamming charizard pack for over a month hoping for full art Erika or Sabrina>got a Blaine
>>57135258I don't play to get lucky, this is akin to rolling an online rng and getting happy when you get the guessed number
Obviously nothing is perfect, although I do run two Sabrinas to move karps back to the bench where they belong plus two poke flutes to re-summon karps and squash them again.
Worst Christmas everUsed all my hourglasses i saved for months and still cant pull a goddamn moltres, zapdos, kangaskhan, gengar, gardevoir. They made EX cards way too expensive and every deck needs 2 copies
>>57135284Anon we get a free one in January…
what are the chances the new set in january will spawn a new meta deck wave ? im currently trying to get the 45 wins with my honest deck (Mewtwo) and im only playing against Celebi or Gyarados
>>57135291Free one of what?
>>57135284Honestly they did a good job. Between wonder pick and all the versions of exes, it's surprisingly easy to make a meta deck off your FtP shit
>>57135294>with my honest deck (Mewtwo) get fucked
I haven’t seen what people are running in tournaments (if they are), but IF you want a deck primarily focused on Aero ex as an option, I think pic related is a decent start. New Primeape gives you a strong turn 1 option, especially if you manage to get Aero out on turn 3. Hitmonlee is great to have in the Drudd meta, and I love holding it for a surprise knockout on other decks. Marshadow is good, but it sucks opening with it as your only basic.
>>57135294100%. We are basically getting a new Genetic Apex type of set.
>>57135303sorry i meant Machamp and Marowak
>>57135297Moltres, Zapdos and Gardevoir
>>57135312>>57135312>Moltres, ZapdosEX or regular?
>>57135294>honest deck (Mewtwo)Anom you're such a comedian
>>57135314ex
>>57135304I really like the new Primeape, been using it in my Machamp and Marowak decks too
>>57135243>whoa scolipede weezing is so shit>force myself to get the 45 wins with the deck to justify the pack point I wasted on them>whoa scolipede weezing is so kino
Can someone get his fc?https://x.com/bigkernoken/status/1871810090766086158
>>57135294I don't think it's metagamically possible to be consistently faster than Pikachu EX so you should be fine if you have one of those decks ready, but some people would probably beg the differ
Where is he
>>57135374Top left
>>57135304I’m using>promo Mankey>original Primeape>one copy of Mew EXKind of straightforward to play
>spending watches
>>57135380Fuck
>>57135314Free Moltres for the premium pass, also Garde is in the special wonder pick
>free packs and hourglasses for holidaysAre gachas always this generous?
Almost 60 packs later, I can't get a single ex except for Aerodactyl, or anything rarer than a full art. If this keeps up I'm going to quit before the next set.
How does Giovanni interact with Dragonite's damage?
>>57135374>he
>>57135399They're usually more generous.Also, bear in mind, >>57134128 >>57134149>>57135401The active Pokemon takes +10 damage if Dragonite chose it at least once.
>>57135400Abuse WPs. You be flooded in Pokemon ex.
>>57135385Yeah, that still works. My only gripe with that setup is that you’re fucked on the turn 1 play. I think Aero needs to be surrounded by cheap attackers (1 energy cost) because the deck can be too slow otherwise. Looks like someone had decent results with Farfetch’d, for example.
>>57135410Okay so not +10 to each instance of damage, that's fair.
Florges is pretty decentStage-2 mon that only needs 2 energy for 80 damage like Greninja but with a healing gimmick instead
>>57135425The effect makes multiple choices but there is only one instance of damage per Pokemon.
I got a nice Christmas present today.
>>57135402>has
>>57135441
>>57135415>Abuse WPsExplain how
>Trying out the new Weezing>Win a bunch of games, but they would've been easier with the old one>Queue-up again>It's a Gyarados ex>Sabrina one of his Magikarps and knock it out>He evolves the other and knocks out my Weezing>I powered up the other one>now_is_your_time_to_shine.webm>He blocks the first hit>He blocks the second one>Gyarados potions, clearly perturbed by my Big Dark Energy>I tactically retreat into Arbok and Corner him>He burns a Leaf before conceding That'll do Weez, that'll do
>>57135402his spanish name is male gendered so yeah, a he.
>>57135457Doesn't even make sense
Merry Christmas lads finally pulled my 2nd Aero ex from the packs, FUCK Wonder Pick that shit gave me trash 10 times in a row.Still need to pull that pack until I get another Slab and Scolipede though
Jesus christ I want lt.surge’s BWC
>check wonder picks >it's all doom and gloom
>>57135399I think homo gachas give like one 10-pull, and they're known for being stingy. More generous gachas will give 30-50 pulls and/or a free unit. The most generous gachas will give away an entire pity. It's kind of difficult to gauge how "generous" this game is based on that scale. The free packs could be your godpack, or they could be nothing. In the case that they are nothing, they're basically giving you a free Koffing, which is not generous at all.
I'm losing faith in Blaine.I played about 30 matches today and most of them were against water or Mewtu decks. Barely saw anything else.All of them keep using Drud or Mew to outtank me, making me waste my Blaines or they always have the potions to keep me from hitting for lethal damage.The Mewtu players also always seems to get perfect draws and their slabs never miss.
>>57135349>possible to be consistently fasterHow aboout:>Grimsley's Gambit>Draw all cards from your deck. At the end of your turn, discard your hand. This effect ignores the normal hand size limit.
>>57135568Blaine is like Weezing Scolipede decks which mainly do well for their antimeta type matchupsIf Grass is dying out due to people losing faith in Celebi coinflips then Blaine has lost its main target
>>57135446>no
>>57135456Bots open a bunch of packs on new accounts.They find a god pack.They check to see if the god pack gets offered for wonder picks.You friend an exemplar bot.You don't have other friends (ha ha loser).The bot offer you the god pack.You get a rare card.Rinse and repeat until you're out of wonder hourglasses.And repeat again every two days when your stamina fills up.
>>57135600Blaine has a much better Gyarados matchup than Koga. 40% vs 25%.
If someone wants a shot at Onion ex in WP7865965208668168
>>57135528Why?
So what are these new Xmas missions the in-game notification spoke off?
>>57135605Damn. That seems like too much effort for a bunch of pixels
need a new cubone that actually attacks instead of crying
How does pika beat celebi? I always can completely stomped. They tank, heal everything, then one shot everything i have.
>>57135665zapdos deez nuts
>>57135658Vulpix too
>>57135641they are in the mission tab, it just log one time a day for 7 days.
>>57135642If you can tolerate sucking people off there are Discords where bot farmers share the fruit of their labor.
>>57135707has anyone encountered this issue?>>57135722nigger
You are the first person to ever have that issue.
>>57135735fuck
>>57135733>he didn't sync with nintendo
>just want a brock so I can use my golem deck>get this shit instead
>>57135743I synched with my apple id I didn’t realize that that would be an issue. It even still has my premium pass subscription still active
Well, statistically this will likely be my best misty ever.
>>57135753That is very sad and scary anon. I'd be fucking pissed. Hope you can somehow recover it
>>57135766
>>57135774I'm still mad that new Egg mogs Zam.
pvp got a shit ton more sweatier. it feels like every deck i go against is a tourney winner
>>57135603>stylw
>>57135600While Weezing was always just a Mewtwo killer, Blaine has never been just a Celebi killer. You are aware that Blaine existed all of last expansion and that Celebi didn't, right? And that Grass decks were basically nonexistent during that timeframe? You know this, right? What sort of revisionist history are you doing? Blaine is RDW. It's "faster" (i.e. has more explosive starts) than any other deck, and that can just win you games sometimes.
>>57135786It's because the cards are easy to obtain and there are a lot of guides online. You might not have the deck you want, but you'll definitely have a competitive deck ready.
>>57135786>it feels like every deck i go against is a tourney winnerSame as it ever was. Been like this since the very first PvP event. It was probably like that even before the first PvP event, but I didn't do any PvP until that point.
I played against a deck that used a bunch of fodder (fossils, scope, etc) just to discard them and draw more cards with Chatot. Main attacker seemed to be Blastoise. They ignored my friend request
>>57135802Blaine can do 70 damage on turn 3. Exeggutor can do 80.
While checking how much the Japanese love TCG Pocket I noticed that they NEVER got the original Online and Live, why?
Release me
>>57135822Fuck off
>>57135818>7090*, plus thay's the LOWEST damage Blaine can do in that matchup, and for a single energy on a 100 hp mon
>computer makes Pidgeot ex look cool and good in the single player matches while I'm grinding out the challenges>get one from a booster, build a deck around it, regular apex Pidgeot and Druddigon as early walls>lose 80% of games just from waiting >10 turns to draw either basic Pidgeys or any of the evolutions, nobody is intimidated by Druddigon rough skin when you're not playing anything else and they can just ohko it after a few turns setting up Mewtwo or Celebi or whatever the fuckIs this what stage 2 evo decks have been dealing with the whole time? I've mostly played Blaine up till now.
>>57135820PTCGO and PTCGL are published by The Pokemon Company International. TPCI doesn't handle Japanese publishing. The parent company, The Pokemon Company, didn't like those games and wanted nothing to do with them.Pokemon TCG Pocket is published by The Pokemon Company.>>57135831You only have one energy on turn 3.
>>57135842>Is this what stage 2 evo decks have been dealing with the whole time? I've mostly played Blaine up till now.Yes, fuck stage 2 mons. This miniset released few basic and stage 1 poks that just powercreept old stage 2's. Gyara and Eggsex are best examples.
Water EX mons have been evading me hardcore. Out of everyone of them that is out, I still only have one Articuno.Trading can't come fast enough.
>>57135818You do not need to tell me how good Exeggutor is. I'm the anon who started sucking Exeggutor's cock during the 5 winstreak event because I didn't realize he was as busted as he is. And that's exactly why he's busted. The thing is, you can't guarantee that you're gonna get Exeggutor online on curve, and you can't guarantee that he's gonna flip heads. He's functionally more like a significantly better version of Kangaskhan (with Erika support) and you should not be comparing him to Blaine at all. Everything in Blaine can do what Exeggutor can with regards to damage, and Blaine has been doing it since before Celebi existed (which is an important point in the conversation, since anon wrongly posited that Blaine only exists to beat Celebi, which did not exist last expansion where Blaine was still relevant)
>>57135844>You only have one energy on turn 3.And what exactly is your point? You said>>57135818>Blaine can do 70 damage on turn 3. Exeggutor can do 80.And the only pokemon that does that damage in Blaine is A1 Rapidash, a 1 energy mon. You either don't know what you're talking about, or you only see cards in a vacuum, without actually playing that matchup.
>>57135870>And what exactly is your point?My point is that >>57135831>90*,is a false correct. The sentence>Blaine can do 90 damage on turn 3.is wrong.
God damn I love my Scolipede and Weezing deck.
unironically how do you make a good unique deck anymore. any out of hand idea i have, druddigon shits it the fuck down or Gyarados just one shots everything.
>>57135266I'll admit.I bought my second Sabrina with Points
>>57135875>What are type weaknessYeah, you just don't know what you're talking about.
>>57135457I like the old weez better. Less coin flip niggetry
Please look at Gyarados (stage 1) and compare him to most stage 2s in this game. There is literally no difference, he just straight up does more damage and has the same amount of HP.
>>57135884OK well if that's your angle Exeggutor can do 100. Unless your opponent is running exactly Tangela or Pinsir Rapidash getting +20 isn't a big deal.Anything you were going to one-shot you're still going to one-shot. Anything you were going to two-shot you're still going to two-shot.
ngl i never had much luck with exeggutor. Its a EX tank that isnt easy to retreat. I feel like you use it the same way you would weezing, but weezing is a nonex
>>57135842I know your pain, birdbro. I'm running this deck and it's absolutely painful see all other decks just having everything online turn 2-3 while I'm either wasting turns on evolving IF I got lucky enough on draws and have all my evo cards in hand.
>>57135899>OK well if that's your angle Exeggutor can do 100.Well yes if you run into golem or some shit and always flip heads like >>57135859 said. But most of the time you won't, meanwhile Blain will still do 70-90 dmg most of the time with 1 energy.
>>57135842Stage 2 mons as active attackers are miserable. Gard is fine because of slab and you just hide it on the bench. You go through all the effort to build pidgeot and any other stage 2 and Gyarados outdamages them anyway
>>57135905Leaf's improved it a lot allowing it to retreat easilyI like running Eggs with Mew exEggs is the immediate threat while Mew covers his lategame weakness when the stuff in the bench start coming out of hiding
>>57135911>most of the timeExactly twice in the game.Or if you're talking about the consistency of a big hit turn 3:Exeggutor is a two card combo and a coin flip.Blaine is a three card combo.They're both inconsistent.
>>57135894Yeah but Magicarp dies to anything that looks at it.
>>57135918good, thats the decks only flaw.>>57135916
>>57135899Leaf exists now, anon, and Exeggutor was good even before Leaf existed. Exeggutor can just shut down games if you get it on curve, even going first. Pestering the opponent with 40-80 damage from a 160 HP wall that has Erika support on turn 2 is something that a lot of decks and draws just can't deal with. In my experience, you're much more likely to get Sabrina'd than to need to retreat Exeggutor (unless your other benched mon is also Exeggutor EX)>>57135916>when anon says something completely retarded and is now forced to defend his retarded opinion>the only other option is to admit that he was wrong, but he will not allow himself to do thatYou're wrong for comparing Blaine to Exeggutor EX, and you're wrong for asserting that Blaine exists only to counter Celebi (because Celebi did not exist last expansion, yet Blaine still did). It's okay to admit that you are wrong sometimes.
Total Golem Victory!
>>57135924If we're going to keep talking past each other I'll let you beat your strawman of me. This is clearly of waste of both of our time and I have a bit more self respect than you.
>>57135924oops, meant for >>57135905>Leaf exists now, anon, and Exeggutor was good even before Leaf existed. Exeggutor can just shut down games if you get it on curve, even going first. Pestering the opponent with 40-80 damage from a 160 HP wall that has Erika support on turn 2 is something that a lot of decks and draws just can't deal with. In my experience, you're much more likely to get Sabrina'd than to need to retreat Exeggutor (unless your other benched mon is also Exeggutor EX)
>>57135783Untrue, new egg needs serp support (aka 2 stage evo) and is weaker than Zam if the opponent has more than 3 energies, and ties at 2. New egg is great in that one deck but is utterly unable to match Zam
>>57135665Literally luck out with Zap or blitz them down with Pika before they get serp. But I agree, Erika makes it hard as fuck but that's been the case with Egg / Venu EX decks. If they curve Pika cannot do shit
>1-2 and about to get BTFO'd>opposing Celebi EX flips 12 coins for damage>1 head>opponent concedes
>>57135941>Untrue, new egg needs serp supportNew Eggs does not need Serp support. It's pretty much just like a Stage 1 Alakazam. You throw out Eggs, Growth Spurt once, and now you're on the same energy curve as Alakzam without needing an extra evolution. I haven't played new Alakazam (with Mew) so I can't say which one mogs the other, but new Eggs is kinda just decent on its own.
>>57135817That archetype usually uses Gyarados ex, but I suppose any bulky water type that can do at least 150 (140 before Giovanni) damage could work.
>>57135939Sure. I hope you understand the error you made in asserting that Blaine exists to counter Celebi (which didn't used to exist, despite Blaine existing) and the error you made in comparing Exeggutor EX to Blaine.
>>57135907Cut tauros, drud, leaf, blue, red card, 1 potionAdd 2 mew, budding, 2 gio, 1 x speedAnd add 2nd pidgeot ex if you have itMerry xmas
>>57135969Mew EX is literally the only card I'm missing to complete the Mythical Island set, which is a damn shame. I'll keep it in mind though, thanks based anon.
>>57135954I forgot about that move, but it's still not on par. Frontlining with Egg1 to get the energy has a risk of ohko or getting damage and getting in range when egg2. Or put it in bench and feed it 4. But I do agree that 1 stage mitigates the bricking risk, still Zam picks up KOs that egg cannot. Egg hits harder against energy less mons but when you already have 4 energies in, the mon to kill is also stacked. Plus Sabrina exists. On paper I like Zam much more but I haven't tried egg yet.
>>57135962>Blaine exists to counter CelebiWhich anon said that anyway? I only see it in your posts.
>>57135916NGL I have this weird feeling that eggsex is actually worse than Celebi + Serperior, because once your opponent brings out the big beaters you have nothing to fall back to, and adding eggs to Celebi/Serperor also means adding an extra layer of inconsistency.
>>57135954I'll to try Bee + Egg + pinsir or some other meme. Build up egg in the back and hit hard for cheap with bee and roll the pinsir roulette. I refuse to use celebi as my coin toss luck is none
You shouldn't be able to use normal X Speed on EX pokemonYou shouldn't be able to evolve a pokemon after retreating itYou shouldn't be able to use supporters on EX pokemon if they are not explicitly mentioned in the textThis game is a dogshit cashgrab until they change it
>>57135941nah thanks to the exeggcute's 'attack' you can pile on the energy pretty quick if you happen to have bad luck on the serp draws
>>57136002"pretty quick" is an overstatement but if you're stuck opening with him he's no worse than Alakazam.
>>57135822This is only useful if your opponent isnt guaranteed to play an energy their next turn
>>57136007I've had fairly good luck with it, but maybe the people I'm playing against are just ass
>>57135999Wasted tripsCry harder
>>57135907I don't care how cool the old pidgeot looks you retards have to stop running it. It does not help anything else in your deck.2× pidgeot ex line2x druddigon2× pokeball 2× oak2× sabrina2× potion2× x speed2× flute1/2× Giovanni/leaf(whatever you want)You can cut a x speed or potion for Tauros if you really want him run fire & water energy for obvious reasons.I genuinely believe pidgeot ex is up there as one of the new good druddigon decks not quite as consistently good as golem or gyarados but situationally better.
>>57136019>pay piglet detected
>>57135981see >>57135600>If Grass is dying out due to people losing faith in Celebi coinflips then Blaine has lost its main targetCelebi didn't even exist last patch while Blaine still did.
Stage 2 attacker decks basically auto lose going first. Daily reminder until you understand
>>57135999>what very, very little skill difference there is in this game should be eradicated Zoomers were a mistake.
>>57136017If your opponent can't do 50 damage in 2 turns they bricked on a Magnemite.If you Growth Spurt once, evolve for HP, and stack the rest he comes online in 3 turns (same pace as Alakazam, but you traded one turn of fragility for one less card to find).If you Growth Spurt once, retreat with X Speed or Leaf, and finish on the bench he comes online in 3 turns (same pace as Alakazam, you still needed 3 cards, and you were fragile for a turn).If you build up entirely on the bench it's slower than Alazakam (unless you assemble Serperior as a 5 card combo).Psychic Exeggutor is more flexible since the Exeggcute can pivot into Exeggutor ex, but otherwise I do think Psychic Exeggutor is basically in line with Alakazam.
>>57136031>Stage 2 attacker decks basically auto lose going first. Daily reminder until you understand
>out of WP hourglasses>still have godpacks to pull on
How the FUCK do I have three gold Mews, a rainbow Aero, and three immersive Celebis but NO RAINBOW MEWI was gonna use my pity on a fancy trainer card but I really want the Celebi emblem...
Stage 2 mons should either have more HP, or do more damage.
Never stop gambling.
>>57136021I’ve been running Drudd/Pidgeot EX with Zapdos (1 ex/1 basic) and it’s been solid. Took a lot of testing to take it from a bad deck to a reliable one but it’s very fun and is now winning pretty consistently in 45+ queue. Pidgeot EX/Double Sab is tight because most players don’t foddermaxx when they see a Pidgey building, so they have to choose between keeping important shit benched or pumping Pidgeot EX’s damage. Still working on the list though, I think it could be improved even further.
>>57136080Just play EX basics, it's more skillful that way ;)
Just opened my 5th FA Nidoking, AMA.
>>57136080they're so trash if you fall behind on evolving. Especially if you miss the basic or stage 1 early. You're just turns behind from then on and almost no chance of catching up.Things are even worse now since Celebii is so prevalent and ramps up super fast. I
>>57136080Giving them natural access to previous stage moves would go a long way
>>57136098>basic>2 energy attackshit
>>57136045It's a shame we can't have a tolerable Grimer.
>>57136039Having Egg2 in front for 3 turns is insane, plus Psychic works best when the mon is benched and revengekills the opposing front. Otherwise you'll just get a frontline kill and get smoked back.That's what does not convince me at all, you need a frontliner like Drudd to setup, thus making Serp and co an encumbrance. and at that point Zam is better because it reaches 150 damage with 3 and 180 with 4 (gyara, char EX). Plus many matches come down to waiting to setup more and building 2 zams is often a wincon. Building 2 eggs requires 8 turns against 6 for 2 zams
Stage 2 Pokemon are totally fine to run as long as they are not your win condition. Look at decks like Mewtwo and Celebi. Those are fine, because Gardevoir and Serperior are not your win condition. They "break ties" so-to-speak, but they are usually win-more if you get them online due to the high variance of """skill""" (i.e. luck) in this game. The second that you start building a deck where your wincon is a Stage 2 Pokemon, you have lost the battle. Unless you know that you're making a bad deck on purpose, in which case more power to you. I hope """skill""" is on your side.
>>57136108The important thing is it retreats for 1.
>>57136094How does it feel opening the equivalent of premium dogshit?Just kidding I already know
>>57136105In the real tcg, stage 1 and 2 ALWAYS had at least two moves, seriously why did they fucking do this?
>>57136111>Having Egg2 in front for 3 turns is insane>plus Psychic works best when the mon is benched and revengekills the opposing frontNot that guy, but what I usually do, in games where I choose to build Psychic Eggs (or I only get Psychic Eggs), is I Growth Spurt once, and then retreat Eggs with an X Speed and then evolve it after the retreat. Unless, like, they can't really get online in that timeframe, then I'll just leave him in front. You really do not need Serp to run Psychic Eggs.>Building 2 eggs requires 8 turns against 6 for 2 zamsI run Eggs EX and Psychic Eggs. I've literally never built 2 Psychic Eggs, but I have built both Eggs EX and Psychic Eggs.
>>57136094Thats nothing. I opened 10 packs at once and got 4 melmetals, no other rares or ex
How good does a Stage 2 have to be for it to be worth it?
>>57136120It's a lazy, minimum effort cashgrab mobile product. What did you expect?
>>57136108That jives with the Pokédex entry.
>>57136112>you can use stage 3 Pokemon if youNever attach a single energy to them and they just sit on the bench providing passive benefits for your real (developer approved) PokemonThat’s shitty yes
>>57136130It needs to benefit your gameplan from the back row (Serperior, Gardevoir) or it needs to be able to evolve and attack on curve with enough of a health and damage boost to avoid just dying to normal attacks on the way there.
>>57136130this one is really good
>>57136130>marginally better Victreebell>off a marginally better stage 1>off an identical basicThis could see play. Probably not in Pikachu though.
>got a celebi from wp this afternoon>and another just now from a pack
>>57136088>45+ queueThere's only one queue.
>>57136159I believe this less than I believe in deck weight. Towards the end of events you run into concede scummers in the event queue much more often than you do in the other queues.
>>57135262>free point>sabrina
>>57136148magnezone + galvantula maybe
>>57136112How would you even fix this? Release a Rare Candy to let players skip a stage, functionally making stage 2s the same as a stage 1?. Ultra Ball to search out a non-Basic mon?
>>57136137>Never attach a single energy to them and they just sit on the bench providing passive benefits for your real (developer approved) PokemonI have, many times, put energy on Gardevoir and Serperior to attack with them. That's sometimes the correct play. >That’s shitty yesI don't think so. The shitty thing is that Stage 2 attackers ("Main DPS") are bad, not that the current "good" Stage 2s are primarily buff sluts.
Brapening status?
Did some Christmas cleaning and found this sleeve I have stored. I doubt they are of any real worth but what's a good marketplace to check them out anyways?
>>57135568>he fell for the blaine memeMaybe you should have noooticed that if the Blaine deck was actually good, then Blaine deck players wouldn't be out here announcing everytime they win against a meta deck like it was a miracle
>>57136179Galvantula doesn't sound right. You'd get attacked less but if they retreat you can just yoink them forward again.Magnezone wouldn't need to be active so you could run it with anything, Magneton makes lightning energy so it could attack in any deck, and 100 damage is a solid amount.
>try running New koffing for accelerated draw>place it>draw the other koffing the next turn before I can attack>start with both in hand>research into the second one>etcit hasn't hit once holy shit fuck this thing, it costs more to retreat too
>>57136204I warned you.
>>57136190what the fuck am i looking at
>>57136204Never fall for the Cry for Family meme. It does not work in a game where the deck is effectively only 15 cards on your first turn
>>57136209Data
>>57136130Even if stage 2s were infinitely strong and tough you'd still brick on the way to getting them out.
>>57136190>peanut butter>nutella>chips>ramen>reeses pieces>a thousand sour worms and gummies>pepsi>nail clippers (and tweezers?) sitting on a Wii>mustard>all the bread in the world>plus a (cinnamon?) candy caneI will never be able to understand fat people.
>>57136165All I'm running into are babies who don't even have a single meta deck. Of course they concede if you play yours right.
>>57136216>Only 30 data pointsSo his information is worthless
>>57136222>All I'm running into are babies who don't even have a single meta deck.Meanwhile, I and many others are running into non-stop meta decks. The duality of man.
>>57136112>Stage 2 Pokemon are totally fine to run as long as they are not your win conditionHe IS the win condition but his support helps him until he's here. And by then, the support has done enough chipping that he just sweeps.
>>57136190you're disgusting get a hold of yourself bro
>>57136190Wtf is that white and green device, is that a glucometer? Wouldn't be surprised, the peanut butter, bread, and candy scream acquired diabetes.
>>57136130>sabrina>but it doesn't count as a trainer use >also you pick the swap targetThis would be broken af in pocket
>>57136112You were saying?
>>57136190Why do you keep your tweezer and nail clippers on your Wii?
>Misclick a Wash Out instead of an attack>Game forces you to do it anywayWas this programmed by AI or something? This shit is TRASH
>>57136248Not him but it looks like a Wii U Fit thing
>>57136257Ahh yeah that fits with the WiiSTILL, >>57136255 ??
>>57136256>accidentally declare an action out loud during a paper game>forced to complete it as long as it's legalWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>5713620440 damage on a Psychic mon t1 is something I’d never give up
>don't see a single fighting deck for 35 out of my 45 wins>decide to try the Venipede memes>50% of decks are fighting
My luck can't be this shit can it?
>>57136237This is just a slightly different take on Melmetal, let's be honest.
well...at least I got something for Christmas...even if it is my 4th Aero EX...the full art is cool, I guess...wish I could use this piece of shit
>>57136279forgot pic not that it matters
>>57136237Golem works because he is literally a better machamp. With the damage reduction, he is basically an EX pokemon.
>switch from Venipede back to Gyarados>3 M2 in a rowThis cannot be random chance
>>57136279>wish I could use this piece of shitThere’s a deck list with hitmonlee, farfetch’d, and marshadow that recently placed well in a tournament. It’s more of a low-energy beat down deck, but aero comes in handy at times.
>>57136285The trick is to stop blindly playing meta netdecks and tweak your brew until you mostly play into decks that you typically win against.
>play fire>match with articuno>play pikachu>match with celebi>play fire again>match with cunoWhat the fuck is going on, why is it giving ttoughest matches when I've been getting curvestomped for the whole day?
>>57136294yeah, with me
>>57136283>With the damage reduction, he is basically an EX pokemon.Except for only having a single 4 energy attack that's dependant on a Supporter to even be usable. Golem is still vulnerable to the same problem all Stage 2s have where they can only pray to survive long enough to come online. By the time you're attacking with Golem the opponent is already set up to Psydrive every turn or flipping 4+ coins with Celebi.
>>57136294kek
>>57136294
>>57136297>curvestompedI beg the differ.
>>57136294>>57136309Aging Whirpool...
>>57135635They need to inspect it for diseases obviously and run a couple taste tests to make sure nothing is wrong obviously, are you retarded why aren't you asking why people want to fuck the pokegirls
>>57136309>minutes of ghee>play this card, and then play it on your turn>2 minute pigeon
>>57136331Based if tits. Gay if gay.
>>57136309minute pigeon
You just know
>the game has a way of making it up to you when you’re having shit RNG
>>57136331>why aren't you asking why people want to fuck the pokegirlsI'm going to explain this as rationally as possible, and you're just going to need to accept that what I'm saying is true, because it is. Everyone on the internet is a boy. There are no girls on the internet. As we are all men here, it is natural to want to fuck pokegirls. This does not need any explanation. Men want to fuck women, this is the natural order of the world, and this is why any of us are currently alive. We are alive because biology instructed us to be attracted to women, and when women get fucked by men, they get pregnant and here we are.It is unnatural for men to want to fuck men. Most men cannot comprehend men wanting to fuck other men. Girls are so cute and so pretty and so sexy. It just doesn't make sense that you'd go against your natural programming and choose to want to fuck ugly dudes instead. This desire not only needs a ton of explanation (that fucking women does not), but it also defies explanation even when explained, because it's just not natural and is not the way most men's brains are wired. It's like trying to explain to a dog what the color red looks like. It's just unnatural and unexplainable for a man to want to fuck a man. You'd have to be a girl (XX style) in order for your desire to make any sense, but that's impossible, because there are no girls on the internet. The only natural and rational explanation for your desire would require you to be a real life female on the internet, which is perhaps more unnatural and unexplainable than a man wanting to fuck a man.
>>57136362Take your meds
>>57136372I simply answered a question that was asked with the correct rational and logical answer. I'm sorry if you dislike the answer. Perhaps if you did not want to know the answer you should not have asked the question.
>>57136021I like the normal Pidgeot because of having basically infinite Sabrinas, but I don't know if the utility is better than EX's raw damage.
Wartortle>Ability: Your active stage 1 water pokemon take 10 less damage. Your active stage 2 pokemon additionall deal 10 more damage from attacks. This ability is transfered to blastoise when evolving.>Charmeleon>ability: when energy is discarded from your active fire pokemon from an attack, also discard a random energy from your opponents pokemon. this ability is transfered to charizard when evolving.>Ivysaur>ability: Your active grass pokemon recover 10 more damage from healing. This ability transfers to Venasaur when Evolving.
>>57136379They work pretty well together if you can manage to get both out at once big ifEX deals hueg damage if they fill their bench, and if they don't then regular Pidgeot swaps in the guy they're trying to build making sure you get the first hit with EX and will win the trade.
>>57136294kek, I remember the yu gi oh memes of those years ago.
>kicks your fish in the dick
Anyone have a good 3 diamond deck to beat Charizard ex and Moltres ex on expert? I tried using the Blaine deck a bunch but it's not working, even though it's worked on almost every other 3 diamond challenge. I've also tried an electric and water deck, which both seemed worse than Blaine.
>>57136430I think that's how they make caviar
>>57136432Just get slightly better luck with Blaine.
>>57136432Just restart until they don't open with moltres
>>57136294KEK
>enemy ragequits after he gets 1 head in 6 celebi flips>he would have won easily if he just stayed in cause my Misty didn't give me the 3 energy I would have lackedI swear if a Celebi player draws Serperior on curve there is literally nothing you can do
>>57136313>Tags: NonCon, Insect, Loli
>>57136458Blaine can handle it
>>57136458Celebi downplayers will be the first to meet the rope
>opponent red cards me while I have 3 cards left in deck>ends up giving me the Sabrina I needed to winBro you gotta fucking stop doing this shit to yourself.
>>57136458>I swear if a Celebi player draws Serperior on curve there is literally nothing you can doThere's lots of stuff that can one shot Celebi or one shot it after it takes a bit of chip at the same energy level Celebi starts becoming threatening with Serperior. And if they had the full Serperior line then them having an Erika becomes less likely.
>>57136480But one shotting a Celebi isn't enough because by the time you can do that he has something else ready tooThe only time you can reliably win is if you have a perfect draw with a blaine deck or if he just gets fucked by ridiculously shit coin flips
>>57136414SEXOOOO WITH SABRINA
>>57135817It's a deck that punishes greedy drudd decks that infested everywhere
You in the wrong hood, you onion-ass lookin mothafucka
Give me one reason why I shouldn't think Gyarados/Greninja/Druddigon players aren't just as big of niggers as any other meta deck
>>57136524gengar ex is so bad holy shit i tried everything but no way
>>57136526Gyarados is whatever, your typical backline sweeper. It's Greninja abusers that don't deserve anything.
>>57136526I can't give you a reason. We both know what decks the were running Celebi a week ago and Pikachu before that.
30 wins with Florges, just 15 more.
>>57136538He's the weakest part of the deck. Psyduck stalls water decks until Gengar can swing, and Jynx comes in and punishes them if they ever do get Misty off. Then Jynx just acts as a firm counter vs Celebi/Moltres. The deck is functional but I wouldn't recommend running it as your main deck unless you enjoy losing like 70% of the time.
>>57136268That sounds like me when i saw nothing but celebi so i switched to blaine and immediately got misty decks back to back
>>57136526Because at least you can interact with them and stop themThere's very little you can do to stop a Celebtard who perfectly draws into Serperior
does mew gen hacking cap at 3 coin flips with celebi?
>>57136432You could try Greninja/Tentacruel. That deck is pretty good.
>>57136561No, you're getting 3 flips because you only put 3 energy on Mew.
>>57136557>implying Misty facilitates interaction
>>57136557There's very little you can do to stop a gyratard who flips 2+ on misty in the first few turns
>>57136432Build something from lightning cards and play on curve, should be easyI used the joltik deck but lightning has tons of strong fast cards
>unfriend 20 people>their WP offers are still around but aren't tagged friendhow does this interact with getting new WPs?
>>57136623There's something like 12 possible WP slots, 4 of which are dedicated friend slots. You have to wait until they cycle out (including, I believe, the "last chance" ones that are pseudo expired) in order to get new choices.
A true christmas miracle
>>57136458I simply think about his next battle where Celebi goes 1 for 10 against a Ninetales and my happiness is restored
>>57136629I have 16 non-friend WPs at the moment. My 4 offers from former friends are still present but the "friend label" has been removed and the formerly-friends WPs have moved from the top of the list into various locations in the middle. Will I get new friend offers when any offers expire or will the formerly-friends offers have to expire?
I just want the Buddy Explorer. FREE ME
>>57136592The same can be said for Articuno thougheverbeit
>>57136655At least something not named Charizard can one shot it.Even Scolipede can force it to retreat or die.Gyarados' insane hp is the real bullshit
>>57136639>Will I get new friend offers when any offers expire or will the formerly-friends offers have to expire?The formerly friend offers must expire. They are occupying the "friend" slot.
>>57132034Which chat room is this FC from?
>>57135248Celebi is tier 0 if you’re a luckchad. Otherwise Mewtwo is still king >>57135284 Save your wonderpicks for ex cards only. Half of the ex cards I’ve gotten f2p were from the wonder pick.
>>57135294Almost every pokemon s
look at gyarados, then look at gengar. Then remember one is a stage 1, and the other is a stage 2.
>>57135294Guaranteed, we got a new meta wave out of a mini set.
>>57136718But i have the absolute worst luck with wonderpick. Ive never gotten anything i wanted from them
>>57136727Mega Gengar will warp the meta, TRVST
>>57136727Gengar is my favorite card in the game and now he's so bad I can't even attempt to play with his dumbass.
>>57136727Needing to be in the active is what fucks him over big time, only way to save him without searchers is psychic type greninja that can deal damage from the bench
Speaking of gengar>about to win>one shot drud>gengar ex is now at 150hp>he gets 2 heads on misty>sends out gyarados>one shots me with giovanni>losethis stupid fucking fish made most ex cards irrelevant
Bros
Before he was released, you said he would be shit. Apologize to Gyarados right now
>>57136766>Before he was released, you said he would be shit.No I did not. Everyone else did.
>>57136766He is shit. Vaporeon is the only reason he's playable.
>>57136739What would this work best with, though
>>57136780lol
>>57136132just like my real pokemans
>$630 on this kusoge total and I don't even have 1 FA Sabrina, Misty, or ErikaI could've bought so much cooler stuff. Why did I do this to myself?
>>57136790Chatot and two potions.Maybe Drud if it works for Gary.
>>57136766
>>57136796Are you for real...
>>57136780...most lists aren't running Vaporeon.
Merry Christmas guys, hope you got something nice in your packs today
>>57136810Unowned FA slowpoke for me.
>>57136810I got a second copy of A1a-149 in my morning pack. Can't complain about that.
>>57136796bro? your pack points?
>>57136780i said apologize right now
>It's another, my second evolution are my last 2 cards episodeI'm getting tired bros ...
>>57136796>$630 = 4197 gold>4197 gold = 175 ** WPsNiggler what are you doing.
>>57136802Unfortunately. This plus $100 in November. The depression of knowing how much I've spent has stopped me from rage spending any more in the past few days, and hopefully that will carry me throughout the ENTIRETY of next year. Maybe I'll make "No Gacha Spending" my New Year's Resolution.>>57136824My idea was that, hopefully, I would pull 1 of the Genetic Apex girls and then buy the second copy with pack points, but it never happened. Then I pulled 3 Leaf from Mirage Island. Lucky me...>>57136842That's a nice idea, but I'm on the app all the time and I've only seen 5 ** WPs.
>>57136762hard choice
>>57136845>I've only seen 5 ** WPs.Friendlist scumming. If you're spending that much money you could have a binder with 30 FA Erikas in it right now.
>>57136845feels good being a f2poor honestly
>have a Google account for years>done subscriptions and shit>notice google play points>10 bucks for 1k pointsSo I just cashed in and was able to buy all three holiday bundles without even spending any real moneyAlso found out there is a limit on spending gold in a day.
>>57136270It can be even worse.
>>57136548>unless you enjoy losing like 70% of the timeOnly 70%? Then it would be on par with all the meta decks.
>jap playing Celebi goes second>I lead Venipede>swing Whirlipede for 20 and poison>he flips only 1 head, doesn't kill Whirlipede>drop Scoli and smack celebi from 120>he closes his appSuck it rng nerd
>>57136766I did not say he was shit at all.
>>57136766>gyarados would be shit>a new electric ex>mew would be in every deck>blue is OPIs there anything I forgot?
>>57136845I don't get how people get addicted to gacha. When I open garbage, I receive zero dopamine and move on. And when I open good stuff, I immediately temper my excitement (like "it's cool but it's useless unless I get a second one"), I remember my chances of opening garbage from a second pack are very high and I move on.Maybe I'm just too autistic for gambling.
>>57136866That's the better option if you have a lot of points. The Pocket-specific coupons you can buy that have a better $/point ratio are a trap to make you spend at least some money, since you are limited in how you can use them.
i cant explain why, but mythical island made me have less fun with the game. Pvp feels like the archetype of stashing energy on something in the back increased, and the difference between going first and 2nd is even more dire.
>>57136948A= on a scale from 1-10 how good does it feel to win 100 dollarsB= on a scale from 1-10 how bad does it feel to lose 100 dollarsIf A>B then you have a susceptibility to gambling. This is made worse via the Skinner box design of gacha where even if your RNG is bad you’re still “progressing”
>>57136130The real question is how good does a stage 1 haveto be for it to be worth it if it has a stage 2 and the answer is that it needs to work going first or second. Those determine the better stage 2 pokemon. Scolipede is very good because it can theoretically evolve and hit for the 120 because you set it up previously, and if you only factor the stage 1 and 2 damage that's 150 damage: 20 for the attack, 10 for poison, 120 boosted. Stuff like Greninja scales in a similar way, by the time it is live, you're dealing 80 damage + the 30 from Frogadier it is 110 damage. which is quite a few break points going second. If your stage 1 doesn't contribute to the stage 2, even if it is super when you get to it, you're not on good tempo.So my criteria are: can the stage 1 work going second? followed by can the whole line attack in curve? and lastly how good is the stage 2 when setup. Machamp line attacks in a curve but if you go first you're on negative tempo all the time assuming you open it and can evolve each turn. Golem requires at least 1 Brock to work on curve. And so on.
>opponent draws 2 slabs, 1 oak, 2 pokeballs on first turn>i get nothinguhhh balanced
>>57136981I lost a mirror match yesterday where my opponent opened 2 oak 2 ball and I opened 2 koga 2 leaf.
Late Xmas gift, but I got my first immersive
>>57136941"Focused on Johto"
>>57136985Congrats.
>>57136978>can the stage 1 work going second?meant going first as you can evolve but not use energy until turn 3
>>57136978>>57137002Fixing the energy system would also help a lot with this. Being stuck a whole turn behind because you went first kills basically every stage 2.
>>57136766Always rated him
I love Druddigon meta desu, worst feeling in Apex was scrambling out of a brick to try and claw your way back into the game. Now I feel like I have a fighting chance and I actually get to play out each game
>>57137021It's cancer
>>57137021Druddigon also brings relevance to some pokemon. Hitmonlee is currently meta because it gets free kicks on those bench pokemon because most won't be spending on the druddigon
>>57137009This will be fixed as more generic energy support drops. But sadly not all energies will scale equally. Grass relies on the bulk to get serperior live to basically halve any energy requirement. But you have to evolve serperior on a curve for it to be globally viable. Misty is a hit or miss but it works, Garvedoir doesn't halve energies, but being able to deploy 3 energies per turn in paper is super good. My educated guess is that Fire will rely on retrieving discarded energies at the very least.
nah fuck it, this game has become dreadful to play and i havent enjoyed pvp since this update. This retard ugly dragon straight up makes most decks unplayable unless you are a literal top tier set. I cant attack into it even once without shreding my own health and becoming vulnerable to oneshots. Genome hacking from mew is also cancer, but atleast it requires energy, hate this fucking meta.
Druddigon? Not my problem*farts on him and puts another energy on Mew ex*
>>57137021nope, a low effort card that can be tossed out with no energy investment is bad design.
i spent money on the limited gardevoir and erika setim so sad
>>57137028That's a big fucking maybe, the devs have already shown they barely understand the implications of the energy ramp they've introduced already. It could take multiple sets for them to figure this out IF they even have the capacity to do so.
Stage 2 pokemon that are meant to be in the active spot? Absolute garbage. Retard friendly stage 2 that sit on the bench for 0 energy investment? Broken apparently. what a great game thank you dena, half the pokemon in this game are useless now
>>57137060Buy more packs and play the new best deck goyim-san
>>57137042>Druddigon looking at his trainer as he slowly succumbs to lung cancer (he knows he's not getting a potion)
>>57137056It's not like they are actually paying attention to the meta. They made the cards in advance.At most we will see any change in design philosophy in 2026.
>>57136796I only just started being a WP dick sworder, and I got all 3 birds for the emblem, the Rainbow Mew for the emblem (as soon as I pull an Immersive Celebi), all the 2* sparkly mons from MI, FA Leaf, FA Expeditioner, FA Giovanni, FA Koga, and now I'm just waiting for packs that have the GA waifus and then I'll be done.f2p btw
>>57137056I don't think they don't know. There will never be a "balanced" version of this that makes a lot of stuff playable at the same time. These games are always designed to have a very strong, some relatively strong counters and then the packfiller. This is why Mewtwo gets the slabs that make it much better by default than the rest of the game because it digs faster into its own energy system. Sure, it isn't perfect but already ahead. Scolipede being a very specific counter doesn't make it on par with the rest of the game for example.
>turn 4>concedesBench damage makes players act in such weird ways sometimes. He had the new Koffing, so I know he could have played something on the bench. This deck is pretty funny sometimes.>>57137021No offense, but I think you might be a bad player if Drudd is your only savior vs a brick. I find the oversimplified game plans surrounding Drudd to be extremely boring.
i hate how mythical island sapped away any creativity this game had and now druddigon is a crutch for basically any deck. Uuhhh oohhh uhhhhh i need a basic tank uhuuhhh
>>57137071I doubt they've even put that much effort in. What are the chances the card effects are just AI using the existing cards as training material?
>>57137032Suck it, Farfetch'd
I genuinely am curious what these ‘honest’ homebrew decks that somehow instalose to Drudd yet survived against Pikachu and Mewtwo in apex actually include.
>>57137093Mewtwo has mew and pikachu has dedenne and can counter gyarados.
>>57137082I’m saying there’s more room to outplay, not that it’s the only savior. of course I don’t win every time but there is a difference between being able to put yourself in a position to win vs playing to not lose each turn until you can find The Card
>people are still talking about balance in this game>the game where they purposely made going first significantly worse than going second>there are only like 3 playable Pokemon in the entire game that """don't mind""" going firstThis is a card collecting game that has a versus feature tacked on, because without the versus feature collecting the cards would be meaningless. It's not supposed to be fair, it's not supposed to be balanced. It's unbalanced on purpose. If the litany of literal coinflips didn't tip you off already, then how badly going first fucks you over should have. I wouldn't even be surprised if your deck shuffling and coinflip outcomes are rigged depending on who you're playing against weighed against some hidden variable.
>>57137096No, I’m asking what’s in the decks that Drudd makes ‘unplayable’ now compared to apex. The GAD at least gives you a couple turns if they don’t Mistynut but Pika was ruthless by turn 2 by design.
>>57137093Random cards like Kangkaskhan, Meowth, farfetched and more were a variety of cards you’d see people lead off with. It was also common for cards like greninja, psyduck and starmie to attack on a curve, druddigon ruins this. This meta fucks over anything that just wants to do small attacks on the active spot. This new meta encourages big burst damage, or just stalling and farming energy in the back and i dont like it.
>>57137098And I’m just saying that Drudd is a crutch for having to think several turns in advance. It creates an environment that is too safe in my opinion. I like when both players are making gambles based on the board state and what they expect to draw. Drudd throttles that a bit.
>>57135243Can someone explain to me what "curve" is?I see it used here multiple times in multiple contexts. So I'm unsure exactly what it means across all the different uses.Plz help thnk u <3
>>57137106>Random cards like Kangkaskhan, Meowth, farfetched and more were a variety of cards you’d see people lead off with.Drudd is the new Kangaskhan though. The only difference is that it doesn't require an energy, and it's literally not going to attack you 99.9% of the time. Meowth was never good, and the people mistakenly believed that he was can still get their 3 cards off of him just like they would have gotten when the lead was Kangaskhan. Meowth getting 3 cards might even be more cards than he would have gotten in the previous meta. Farfetch'd is still good vs exactly the same things he was good against before, because Pikachu and Mewtwo and Koga and Celebi aren't running Drudd. Drudd is really, really, honestly and truly barely any different than Kangaskhan, he just does mental damage to you. He's better than Kangaskhan because he's consistent and saves you 1 energy, but it's honestly really just about the same. You might even be better off with the Drudd, because it's not gonna attack you, meaning you can't get random'd out by 2 turns of back to back HH
>>57137112Basically, in the context of this game, it means successfully evolving at each opportunity, or playing "the cards you want to be playing" as early as you can, or being able to stack energies on exactly the Pokemon you want to be stacking them on without having to waste any either on a different Pokemon (didn't draw the right basic on opening) or didn't need to waste an energy retreating or whatever.
>>57137114TRVKE
>>57137114Nah man this is just wrong. You downplay how significant doing 20 damage after the opponent attacks. There is no counterplay, and drudd needs no energy to do this and has 1 less retreat cost. Charizard attacks into drudd, and cant heal the damage before the enemy can attack. Suddenly he is now in one shot range to gyarados. Farfetched is a brick against drudd so idk what you mean there, he’s practically the most common tank you see along side mew.
>>57137112It's jargon from Magic the Gathering, it can mean a few different things but they're all related to the pace of play.If you're "on curve" you are doing things as fast as the pace of play will allow (e.g. using a 2 energy attack on a stage 2 would be "on curve" if you did it on turn 5; getting 4 energy on mewtwo ex on turn 6 using Gardevoir would also be "on curve").Your deck has a "good curve" if it offers lines of play that let you do things without slowing down. Your deck has a "bad curve" if that's not the case (e.g. if you play Kadabra on turn 4 you won't have 3 energy to use its attack).
>>57137092wtf thats a child
>>57137125Don’t forget that Leaf pulls Drudd out for (almost) free.
>>57137125>Nah man this is just wrongIt's the truth. I agree Drudd is better than Kangaskhan, but it's mostly due to the consistency. Kangaskhan still has higher highs than Drudd, but it also has lower lows. You are suffering mental damage from Drudd, not actual damage. >Farfetched is a brick against drudd so idk what you mean thereThat's because you don't play this game and also you cannot read.
>>57137106So how do you get a Starmie or Golduck in the active spot early game? With skill? Sounds like you just want to cheese wins, Blaine is ‘aggro’ and still very viable but it takes actual strategy to play. >>57137107I see where you’re coming from but having done this in the old meta I still do it with Drudd, especially because damage ranges come into play. The bigger actual boon of Druddigon isn’t discouraging attacks but allowing deck construction to have more basics. You can only stall for a wincon and cope with opposing Sabrinas in accordance with what you actually have the ability to put on your bench.
>>57137133>Your deck has a "good curve" if it offers lines of play that let you do things without slowing down.It's not simply enough for it to be 'possible' to play on curve. For your deck to have a good curve it has to be 'likely' that the cards you draw will let you play on curve.
Druddigon should be 3 energy cost, 0 justification for it being 3 and having 100 hp.
>>57137114Ball knowledgepilled, we also got an infinitely better Meowth that /does/ not hit Druddigon and punishes bluffs through hand hoarding as well (which Drudd does enable big time). It greatly warped the meta in terms of deck construction (especially trainers) and gameplay but people seem to want to whine rather than adapt. ArcaZard was antimeta before it became meta in Apex because it broke the rps paradigm and lifted an EX no one rated up into a something that gave Zard a chance against Pika, same for M2 Basic (which no one had even looked at) giving Mewtwo decks more insurance for the early game.
So do you think they will ever nerf stuff
Another reason that Drudd is good, which I did not previously touch on, is that the top tier meta decks aren't running him. >MewtwoNot running Drudd; deck is already too crowded>PikachuNot running Drudd; can't due to Pikachu>CelebiNot running Drudd; similar construction to Mewtwo>KogaNot running Drudd; there are only a few flex cards, and it's probably better to run Mew with Expeditioner>MoltresNot running Drudd; similar to Koga, there are few flex spots, and Mew is probably betterSo the only top tier deck that's even running Drudd is Gyarados. Are you faggots bitching nonstop about Gyarados, or are you bitching nonstop that truly off-meta decks got a useful tool?
Any deck with druddigon + greninja makes me want to smash my phone. Im not falling for the propaganda
>>57137183>top tier meta decks >Celebi>Koga>MoltresHmmm
>>57137183>>>>celebi
>>57137180No
Having fun with this deck:2x Promo Mankey2x Primeape 2x Aero Ex2x Amber Fossil2 Sabrina2x Oak2x X Speed2x Pokeball 1 Giovanni1 Marshadow1 Hitmonlee1 Farfetched
>>57137183>putting Celebi but forgetting GOLEMGOD
>>57137180Hopefully they do rebalance some cards, but we know that they won't and will release new cards that's better than both old good and bad cards
>>57137180Misty needs to be nuked
>>57137192>>57137197>faggots playing semanticsThe only decks being played in versus are meta decks. I listed the meta decks. The only meta deck playing Drudd is Gyarados. So either you're bitching nonstop about Gyarados, or you're bitching nonstop that random truly off-meta decks have a useful tool in their arsenal. Judging from how much of a faggot you guys are for pretending to get hung up on a concept that we both know you understand, I'm going to assume that you're really just bitching nonstop about Gyarados. >>57137202Golem is not meta (yet). I see it only about as often as I see Pidgeot EX, which means that it currently falls into the category I mentioned of truly off-meta decks gaining a useful tool in their brew arsenal.
>>57137199I had fun with something similar, but Primeape is just too energy hungry at times. Been messing around with this net deck for a bit today, and I think it’s a solid improvement. The Gio plays and early Aeros catch a lot of players off guard.
>>57137164I can agree to this. Or reduce the damage to 10 at most. A basic having the same ability of a Stage 2 is so dumb
>Koga>not metaShits on everything that isn't Blaine
>>57137214Nice I'll try out your list
>>57136130Pretty fucking good honestly. The power of basic pokemon needs to be reasonably balanced for stage 2s to be good, a basic pokemon always has the potential to be just better than stage 2s just from the inherent disadvantage of having to evolve and baby pokemon being useless for the most parts.
>butterfree heal deck Never have I just had to concede due to the fact it was agonizing to play against someone's deck with nothing happening.
Is the Chatot Gayrados deck better than Articuno 18 trainers?
>>57137213I just think it’s pretty funny that you list a complete meme (Celebi) and a deck that would be legitimately great if Drudd didn’t exist (Moltres / Arcanine). Koga is simply a small fish feeding on the common M2.>running defense this hard for GyaraNothing wrong with people complaining about the biggest abuser of an annoying card, anon. This combo single-handledly changed bench hitters from memes to serious contenders because they’re often the only way to keep yourself from getting rolled.
>>57136187Rare candy is a must for stage 2 decks though it might just make Mewtwo and celebi unstoppable
>>57137239>anon who has never and will never enter a Pokemon TCG Pocket tournament suddenly pretends that tournament results for events that he has never and will never take part in are the only thing that matters>in order for his """argument""" to hold any water, we must all collectively ignore the actual event queue that exists inside of the game, the queue that everyone actually plays>Celebi has also placed highly and won many tournamentsYou're too stupid, anon. You are truly too stupid. How are you gonna even begin to pretend like Celebi is not a sizeable portion of the decks that you play against online? >running defense this hard for GyaraOnce again, you are truly too stupid. I'm not running defense for anything, except maybe the truth. All I did is point out that Drudd is not actually that different from Kangaskhan (though I do believe he is generally better for consistency) and the fact that ***none*** of the meta decks are playing him except for Gyarados. At least now you are inadvertently admitting the truth though. You don't have any issue with Druddigon. You have an issue with Gyarados. >This combo single-handledly changed bench hitters from memes to serious contendersIt doesn't really have anything to do with the fact that Druddigon is in the Gyarados deck (and only the Gyarados deck). It has more to do with the fact that all of the bench hitters can ohko Magikarp. If Druddigon didn't exist, it'd just be regular Mewtwo or Kangaskhan or something.
>>57136432Golduck probably but I beat that deck with Blaine. Post your Blaine build.
>>57137224imagine trying to heal when the meta is all about one shots.
>>57137251Laughing at how riled up you got. I must be even dumber than you say if (You) know the inner workings of my mind as well as you seem to think you do. Giving out more free, digital palm-readings today?
Misty really needs to be fixed, it's ruining the game
>>57137251It’d most likely be Mew replacing Druddigon, which, while not as psychologically damaging, would still invite its fair share of whinging for having access to its own Koga and its triple colorless move. At the end of the day it’s people not wanting to cope with a meta shift or are mad they can’t yolo anymore and have to actually play
I got outplayed and outskilled.
I received a gift card for 100 dollarydoos. should i just wait for the next set? never pulled a gold crown
>>57137315>i just wait for the next set?probably yeah, this celebi set is a mini while the january is a normal bigger one
>>57137117>>57137133Thanks, bros.In your Kadabra example tho, why is this bad? Evolving into kadabra gives you more HP. Sure, if it's in the active slot and can't attack while the opponent can, that sucks. But if it's on the bench that makes no difference.
I think this meta is cancer and dont want to play pvp. Whats the go to deck for the 5 win streak event?
>>57137330It's not a huge deal if it's benched, but if you opponent is doing things on curve with their active Pokemon they're having more of an impact than you an each turn. Unless you're doing something with an explosive impact after it setups up (like Gyarados) your opponent is probably ahead of you if they're getting more done each turn.
>>57137315Take the paypig pill
>>57137330Because from Abra (1 Energy) to Kadabra (3 Energies) there's no curve. And Kadabra into Alakzam (3 Energy) is flat. So lose tempo regardless. Abra is designed to retreat into the bench without wasting energies. For example, Abra swaps into Druddigon without using energy or item, then you evolve and do nothing because neither Druddigon or Kadabra can do anything, then when you evolve into Alakazam, you have to remove Druddigon with Leaf or 2 X Speed for it to be effective. There's no curve.
>>57137315Why waste your money on something free that you don't even own?
>>57137032take the hitmonpill, it's fun
>>57137270>riled upCute projection. I'm just trying to explain the game to you, anon. You can't seem to understand it though. >>57137279>It’d most likely be Mew replacing DruddigonThat is also a very real possibility, yeah. It probably would be Mew.
>>57137349I think a cheeseburger a day is a waste of money but I don't criticize some people. It was a nice gift from a friend.
I already need the new setthere simply are nit enough cards in this game
>>57137315you’ll regret pulling from the current ones I’d just wait
as hard as i try, since the xpac i cannot win with gengar ex took me like 80 games to get 45 wins
>>57137401How is food that keeps you alive a waste of money?
>>57137415>i cannot win>no x-speedI can see why.
>>57137415you could literally be playing Alakazam instead
>>57137341/vp/ will seethe
Fighting unironically is saved this set>Golem takes hit like a champ and can only be one-shot by Charizard and maybe Celebi on a good roll >Marshadow is brutal in revenge kill that it scares rats away>Hitmonlee gets a glow-up since everyone and their grandmother are running druddigon, allowing you to snipe benched pokemon
For christmas I'm giving out free wins on purpose by just playing a single Mew EX and 'splorin out first chance I get. I feel like its not as funny when I don't have both in my starting hand though
>>57137395>Cute projection. I'm just trying to explain the game to you, anon. You can't seem to understand it though. Whatever you say, Anselina. How much coin for the next reading?
>>57137449>Whatever you say, Anselina. How much coin for the next reading?I don't understand whatever this reference is supposed to be. It just doesn't make sense to bitch about Druddigon constantly when the thing you actually have an issue with is Gyarados.
>>57137428why would i need x-speed? gengar doesnt retreat and ive got 4 leads. the one leaf is enough and space is tight as it is, there is no tank that isnt getting oneshot by meta damage outputs in this deck so im not retreating to spread damage to prevent knock outs. dumbass
>people crying about "le meta" decksYou have to be 18 to post, kids.
>>57137442Yes. I'm particularly impressed with Marshadow. That card fucks. In fact, I think it's probably the best fighting pokemon in the game, and will be around in fighting decks for many sets to come.
2 Drud1-2-1 Serperior1 CelEXRecipe of Success
>>57137431nta but alakzam is not good. A 130hp stage 2 that gets easily on shotted back by a retreat happy pokemon like Mew just doesnt work. Its a really fustrating pokemon to use, it doesnt work as well as you’d hope it would
>>57137466>gengar doesnt retreatyes it does, so do the other stages>4 leadsyour opponent only needs 2 kos>one leaf is enoughit's clearly not if you're losing so much and uses your support turn>space is tight as it isbecause it's trash>im not retreating to spread damage to prevent knock outsthat's why you lose
why can’t the reset be at fucking midnight why do I have to wait until 6 am for this shit
