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>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta
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Previous thread: >>57142866
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WHERE ARE THE RARE PICKS
I HAVE 5 STAMINA
I HAVEN'T SEEN EVEN ONE (1)
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>>57146234
It just needs to beat the expert battle.
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>>57146682
>Misty
God I can't wait to have to fight this thing like 40 times and every 3-5 games the AI just gets 3 heads turn 1
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>>57146674
I've seen three and I didn't waste my stamina on any of them. The only card I want in them is Magneton.
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Kill all coinflip deck players
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>>57146646
Fug. I think I wont be able to buy out the next monthly shop.

>>57146654
>Where did yours go? I have 600+ anfter purchasing every pack glass since global launch, and I’m still debating whether or not I want the monthly wonder pick glass.
Uhh... I don't really know. I still have the Expert missions to complete, but I don't think that's going to get me 600+ tickets. I buy the pack hourglasses and the WP hourglasses. I did also (stupidly) buy some of the permanent hourglasses when I was new, before I understood how this shop worked.
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>>57146687
I'd be more concerned about Eevee,
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>>57146682
>Lapras (Misty)
>Benisaur (Erika)
>Blastoise (Misty)
Why didn't they give us a different element to fight?
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>>57146694
>I don't think that's going to get me 600+ tickets.
It'll get you 240 tickets if every remaining task is expert.
You'll also get 210 tickets from dailies before January ends.
The Blastoise event will probably give you around 23 tickets (more, if you spend event glass).
And bonus picks give tickets, but I can't guess how many you'll get.
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>>57146701
It's past where datamines say what's what, but I'll be shocked if we don't get a drop event against a Fighting deck after the Psychic outbreak.
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>>57146717
>240 + 210
>shop costs 420 to buy out
Nice. Maybe I'm gonna make it after all. Thanks math and planning anon.
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>>57146691
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>>57146691
>Mfw when my GODvee kills their wall on the first attack
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I have 4 Celebi EX cards...what do I do?
Yes, I'm dumb. I have been into the TCG since generation 3, and by then I was only collecting cards, not playing with them.
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Coinflips are true and honest. Except on Celebi.
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Man fuck this fucking game and this fucking retarded Wonder Pick system. I swear half the type the cards are in randomized positions, so it doesn't matter which card I pick, but when there's a card I actually need, the cards flip and NONE OF THEM HAVE FUCKING MOVED. I'm just gonna start clicking on the space where the card I want is because there's no way to tell when the game decides to not shuffle them.
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>>57146737
I got 3 4-diamond Celebi ex and 1 Immersive and I don't even play the deck much since Marowak is more fun

>>57146747
I failed to pull Aero ex from WP 10 times in a row before finally getting the copy I needed from a pack
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>he lets the desire sensor read his thoughts
Empty your mind before doing your WPs.
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>>57146763
It's too late I put heart stamps on the cards I wanted. It's not my fault. The game told me too.
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>>57146768
YOU FOOL
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>>57146737
based collector and not player
but yeah, build celebi with serperior and go coinflipping
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I do honestly wonder if putting the heart stamp on the cards makes you less likely to get them. Or perhaps even more likely, but hahaha yeah right.
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You are better off clicking the spot it shows the cards because its a 50/50 chance, its either there or isn't
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When are we getting the GOOD dragon cards?
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>>57146737
Well, now it's 5...
I just want a second Mew EX, bros... :/
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I'm conflicted about whether I should keep opening MI or go back to the old set
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>>57146801
Hate this gay crystalline shit, can't wait for Gen 10 so this gimmick can go into the trash
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Let's make a Polemon EX, /tcgp/
>Name
>HP
>(optional) Ability/Passive
>Move
>(optional) Move 2
>Retreat cost
>(Optional) Support card

>Ariados EX
>120
>Web Trap: Active Pokemon's retreat cost increases by 1 and cannot be reduced by any mean
>Poison Sting (2 Dark Energy, 1 Colorless): 60 damage and poisons the active Pokemon
>1 Energy retreat
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>>57146801
Thats not a particularly amazing card compared to the bullshit present in the tcg right now
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>>57146804
YEAAHHHHHHH I GOT MY SECOND MEW EX
DRUNK PULLING IS BASED
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>>57146454
>aero marshadow not even mentioned
lemeow
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>>57146801
For only two energy you can one shot >>57146825
That's insane.
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They really need to let you choose which pack it defaults to on your daily open. Got to my 60 MI pulls and getting tired of having to click back to the other sets

Finally got my missing 'Zard Poliwhirl, and got my first regular lapras in the same pack
Still don't have even a single normal Erika though
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More deck slots when
Not going to pay for them either
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This shit has too many random elements to be compared to the TCG game, which has significantly less random elements than most card games
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I love this kicky boi so much
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>>57146870
Damn...
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>have like 3 versions of Celebi EX
>none of them are the basic ass version I need to finish the MI Dex
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>>57146891
Serperior is fucking killing me dude
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>>57146891
I have this issue but with Mew EX.
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>>57146868
i'm shocked anyone takes this game seriously competitively. Like yeah there's skill a little bit, but there's very little you can do overall.
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>>57146868
Maybe, but at least it doesn’t ask me to memorize each decklist I play down to the card (of which there are 60) in order to ascertain which cards of the 10% of my deck got removed every game because they were afraid of dice 25 years ago
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Greninja + Druddigon is a really aids combo. Like ideally there's no counterplay to this and your ace in the hole is to snipe the karp, but what if they just don't play gyarados?
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>>57146821
You're only allowed to do this if you make it into a shitty MS Paint drawing.
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>>57146674
>FINALLY get one
>get Zapa EX first pick
Huh. I guess I'll pull on only Stamina, no Glass, if I see any more and nothing else I want.
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Aerodactyl ex and Dhelmise are the last cards I need for completing the new set. Had the Aerodactyl pop up on wonder pick three times today and missed it every time.

Sucks because I have the Rainbow version.
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>>57146868
Good. That means I can be a coinflip shitter forever
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>>57146801
Most likely gen 3. They seem to be "saving" the Dragon, Dark, and Steel types right now.
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>>57146702
Cute Erika-chan
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>>57146928
If they don't play Gyarados then kill their shit and get points instead of sitting there and losing to 20 damage pings. Hell, just stretch kick the Greninja a bunch if you really want to. 30 damage per turn is 50% more than 20 and they invested into a stage 2 to get it.
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>>57146928
i hate it too, but at the same time I like how it encourages players to play more "sniper" Pokemon
Volcarona and Hitmonlee probably rose up in power since GyaradosEX's overwhelming prescence
But I still hate GyaradosEX
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I got a new phone and I no longer get vibrations when picking packs. anyone know how to solve this?
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>gyarados
>Overwhelming prescence
?????????
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So what's the deal with wonderpicking and macros? Are people just joining a discord server and spamming friend invites? I'm at the point here all I need/want are FA trainers and I'm tired of pulling Blaine, as cool as he is.
>>57146928
Ideally you don't attack the Drud until you can one shot it. Most of the ones I face are not even putting energy on it. Save potions for important breakpoints instead of using them immediately.
Gyarados is a weird thing where If you aren't outspeeding it you're just kind of stuck. They've been my only losses this entire event.
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>>57146732
the animators poorly disguised fetish
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>>57146997
>>57146988
>>57146976
I don't think any of the cards are overpowered, but it feels combined that they are all so toxic. Gyara is this energy hungry monstrocity that admitdedly has a horrible flaw with getting one shot by zebstrika or hitmonlee, but if it evolves it almost feels like game over. It being able to use Misty makes the timer unpredictable, you never know how fast it will actually set up. Not very many things can attack into drud and survive a Gyarados attack either, and if greninja is on the bench evolved it feels like it's gg. I just hate the frog, it's not broken but feels overtuned none the less. He was fine last meta but now it feels like we are on the cusp of him being shoved onto more shit.
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>>57146732
Oh those feet are
Oh dear
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>>57146801
that card has to be the ugliest of those shitty modern gem cards I've seen so far. I'm down for ex dragonite but please don't make it look like this
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When I went through the event for the wins, I had picked up the Gyarados deck day 1 of the event, because on limitless it was the deck with the highest win rate (75%), but I think it had only been in like 2 tournaments at that point. The entire time I played, even when I played non-Gyarados decks (Celebi, to try it out) I only ran into Gyarados 2 or 3 times. And when I queued a few games a day or two ago, I still never ran into Gyarados.
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I just can't find a deck I feel comfortable playing. I had this arcanine + mew deck and went on a great win streak with it, but now I suddenly just ran into a bunch of drudd+greninja combos in a row. It feels like there's always something that just hard fucks you. Maybe I should just try charizard again, it's weird but I don't run into mew at all.
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>>57146995
Have you somehow not seen Gyarados all over the place? At least for me, it's the third most common deck after Celebi and Mewtwo. They literally just came behind Druddigon until they get Gyarados and win the Misty roulette
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>>57147016
The deck is fustrating because it forces you to make the first move. If you just sit there and don't touch drudd, greninja will finish evolving and it's basically over from there. The 20 damage a turn will make you vulnerable to one shots.
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Greninja should have a retreat cost of 2 tbqh.
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>>57147018
I know, I never thought the day would come where I'd hate seeing Gyarados become a common sight, but it's really annoying to play against. It gets even more frustrating since Misty is such a sacky card that can just randomly accelerate their energy gain with a couple of lucky flips and then the stalemate that you were trying to slowly maneuver through into a damn near instant victory for Chuddigon and the Backrow Boys. I'll admit that I've gotten so pissed at it that I actually just stopped giving Thanks to any Druddigon player that flipped more than one heads on Misty.
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>>57147020
It's a very minmaxed stage 2 for sure. Like Serperior and Gard suck shit on the active spot, but Gren? He can survive an attack from Pikachu (no gio), and has a 2 energy cost 60 damage attack lol. He can do a total of 80 if he bursts down the active spot. That pokemon is a pain in the ass
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>>57147028
It makes me salty too, the meta is very harsh atm. If you don't run a bench sniper you just full victim to those decks. The problem is stuff like electabuzz and luminion are good cards, but they don't get going fast enough to kill the karp. Hitmonlee, or Zebstrika (going first) is really your best options. I tried a Starmie deck with Luminion and it just didn't work out, usually the karp evolved fast enough for me to snipe it.
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I have been playing this game for nearly two months and I ahve not played a single Versus match, I'm just here to collect the pretty cards
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>>57147018
I just have pic-related in hand so that it can jump out to snipe the karp
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My deck has 1 gyarados ex and that's the only attacking card I have
Everything else is just items and fossils to thin as fast as possible to find the thing
My win rate is about 75%
Pretty weird
I win as long as I can get it out by turn 4
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>no option to sort cards by National Dex number
Gay
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>>57147034
Yeah, snipers are the best bet, but I also basically have no respectable Electric or Fighting Pokemon.
Druddigon is actually just really infuriating design. Cards that punish you for trying to play the game are some of my least favorite card types in both Yu-Gi-Oh and in this now, and Chuddigon basically requires you to not play until you can one shot him unless your deck has access to a sniper. It's the cringiest kind of deck.
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You guys think the new Raichu is any good in Magneton? Or Electabuzz?

I like the concept, it feels like you basically get to be Arty ex if you pop off, but there are SO many ex pokemon that og raichu oneshots.
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>>57147054
60 damage is too low, it may not seem like it but Electric decks are harder to energy manage than it seems.
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Release me
I will save you from stall niggers, Anon-kun
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>>57147054
I think there are just too many moving parts in any theoretical "Magneton" for it to be good. You need a Stage 1 evolution, which isn't the tallest ask, but then you also need a Surge, which I suppose is not also the tallest ask, but then you also need a payoff mon, and in this case it's Raichu, which is also a Stage 1 mon.

Surge, in my opinion, is good solely for GA Raichu as a game ender for Pikachu. Magneton has no place anywhere.
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>>57147060
>Stage 2
Sit down kid, the adults are talking
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>>57147011
I realized I forgot to finish the event with my alt and played some more in the event cue, there's a decent amount of gyarados players. Luckly, tier 1 Pika+Zeb still shits on gyarados
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>>57147061
I just want to play the dumb highrolly magneton deck.
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The only card I still need from MI is the Immersive Celebi (for the secret mission and the Celebi emblem). I have the entire set. I've already opened 60 packs. I even have completed other secret missions, just not the Celebi one.

I feel like it's kinda not worth it to keep opening MI packs though :( all for just an emblem?
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>>57147061
Magneton-Raichu went 13-0 at a 200 person tournament the other day.

https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6748f04370c192088cf14b46/standings
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>>57147078
Tournament results do not matter to me in the slightest. Especially when this game is a glorified coinflip simulator.

They don't matter to you either. The general "you" of this thread. The thread was nonstop complaining about Celebi that magically vanished when it didn't win the egirl tournament, even though Celebi has won other tournaments.
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>>57147000
>>57147004
I don't get it
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>>57147054
old raichu is good at being a cleanup hitter when pika gets killed or you need the extra damage to clinch it. New raichu in theory could be used to punish retreats but 20 damage isn't a lot, especially when a potion just puts them right back to where they started. It could work, but you would need to test some deck comps to see when you actually get put into situations where it would work. It's hard to pick new raichu over most other options you have now, including dedenne and galvantula
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>>57147074
During the rest of this event and next week you'll get more free MI packs, so you might as well pick from GA instead
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>Aerodactyle EX shuts down Dark
Guess I'm done.
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>>57147084
They should matter to you. Getting a 13 battle win streak is impressive specifically because of how much RNG there is in the game. Even in similar-sized tournaments, it's pretty rare for any deck not to lose at least once. Magneton is absolutely a viable deck. It's just one that isn't seen much experimentation at the moment because people are hung up on the other builds.
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>>57147084
Personally I went from complaining about celebi, to playing the hard counter, to playing a more optimized celebi deck that can deal with the hard counter. Celebi is very strong, it's just probably not stronger than current mewtwo and pika decks
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>>57147106
>They should matter to you.
They do not. And they don't matter to anyone here except very selectively, with the selectivity morphing to fit the current argument. I instead choose to disregard them entirely, except as a showcase example of which decks are "viable" in the current overall game state and what you might reasonably expect to run into (higher representation on external sites = more likely to run into the deck)
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>Bait Celebi into KOing Druddigon
>Bring out Marshadow + Giovanni and revenge kill

They fall for it EVERY time
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>play the event matches
>in 10 games get 8 opponents playing a celebi deck, all of them getting 3-turn serperiors and flipping just enough heads
>switch to blaine to fight them off
>now all games are mewtwos with 3-turn gardes and misty-boosted garys
is the matchmaking rigged or am I just unlucky
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MI and its challenges aren't temporary, right? It's going to take a while to finish all of them for me.

Just like with GA, the cards I actually want never drop while I get doubles of the shit I don't need. (Not a single Mew, Mew EX or Celebi. Double Exeggutor, double Vaporeon)
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>>57147137
No reason to believe they will be, though I can imagine it being pretty unappealing to go back to opening MI packs when the new set hits in a month from now.
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>>57147109
I think people tend to get tilted by celebi flipping heads two times in turn 3 that they don't realize the deck requires a bit of steup to hit huge numbers even then there's a slight chance it can get screwed by RNG. Guess people are just bored playing against it 24/7.
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>>57147132
>is the matchmaking rigged
Yes.
And all of your opponents? Me.
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>>57147125
>three card combo and need to guarantee they don't use Blue
Shit man if I had your luck I would just be playing Gyarados
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I just had someone ragequit when I played blue
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>>57147137
It would be extremely retarded for them to make packs temporary when half of the people "playing" this game are likely only in it for collecting the cards.
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I play golem/promoape. Absolutely highest salt deck. Alakazam fucks me though.
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>>57147113
gratz
i wanna sniff leaf's thighs
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>>57147147
Conceding is not rage quitting.
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Am I going to have to slide Taros in my deck? I feel bloated as it is with x2 Wheezing, x2 Venipede, x1 Mew EX
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>>57147152
Yeah, they left and timed out instead
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>>57147132
I've only been playing this (because I can't get decent cards for any other deck) and I've had far more wins than losses. I think every second match is against some Celebi shitter.
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>>57147153
If you're running a dark deck, you should pick tauros or mew, not both. Wheezing can stall for tauros while mew can stall for venipede. Just depends on what you want to set up more.
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>>57147158
>farfetched and salandit/salazzle bloating your blaine deck
take the new rapidash pill, hitting for 130 will make you coom
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How many hourglasses should I have hoarded for when the new set drops? I'm already at 314 and have enough shop tickets saved to buy the shop out again when it rolls over.
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>>57147173
I just committed to dropping $100 per expansion
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>>57147176
Total cards?
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>>57147184
3700ish
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>>57147173
That's about what I have. I blew all my hourglasses on MI, then started saving up beginning with the MI mission hourglasses. I think that's the strat I'm going to use for the foreseeable future. Blow them all, then start saving up with the mission hourglasses, then blow them all when the new set drops, start saving with the mission hourglasses, etc.
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>>57147190
Think I might keep hoarding to 360 (enough for three ten pulls) then spend my excess between now and then.
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Am I supposed to spend shop tickets on the hourglasses? Stuff like that always feels like a trap.
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>>57147194
>w
there's nothing else to spend it on besides binder cosmetics
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>>57147173
>>57147193
wtf how do you have so much
did you guys just start saving right after spending all on the island expansion?
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>>57147199
>did you guys just start saving right after spending all on the island expansion?
That's literally what I said I did in my post.
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>>57147170
226/45/2
68/11/1
5680 total
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So what's that Gyarados decklist everyone's running,
I can't find the space to fit 2x Cringeninja and 2x GyaradosKarp and 2x Druddigon along with your essentials like Sabrina,Leaf,Misty,OakBall
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>>57147206
>Sabrina
You don't need Sabrina in the deck.
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>>57147163
I am not going to play anything that requires coin flips. The only times I get heads is at the start of the match.
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>>57147158
>mfw rolled that pack hard and not a single vulpix
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>>57147211
>doesn't wanna play coinflips
>plays vulpix
okay bro
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>>57147173
I have 650 of them but I know that anons here had ~200 more hourglasses than I had before A1a started
>>57147199
>did you guys just start saving right after spending all on the island expansion?
Personally spent 0 on it, I believe we've got the time to fill island mostly through free packs
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>>57147213
>Never attack with Vulpix because it's useless
>Evolve to Ninetails

It's that easy.
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>>57147205
Damn, good job mate
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What do you guys think about dropping sandslash for marshadow in a marowak deck?
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Would this save Stage 2s in Pocket
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>>57147235
Need OG Pokemon Breeder
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>>57147235
Probably? Idk the game seems too fast paced for Stage 2s to really contribute unless you're able to really stall out their deck somehow.
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>>57147235
Any of the show it to your opponent cards would make red card meta
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>yfw they add tag teams
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>>57147246
>if you kill one you get all three points
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>>57147235
not really, but cheating out the stage 2 like rare candy does will
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>>57147248
Yeah thats great
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Working on my new deck after achieving 45 wins
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>>57147246
Uninstall
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>>57147246
whats tag teams
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>>57147255
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>>57147255
Kino, is what they are
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>>57147235
What you guys need to remember when you ask these things or propose idea to "fix" or "save" the game is that this also helps out the already meta decks.
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>>57147260
Celebi should be whimsical, seeing one acting all serious and shit ain't right
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>>57147260
>Heal ALL damage
Damn... That would make Venu still shit in this game
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>>57147260
Why is Celebi so casually stroking Venusaur's vine like that?
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>>57147260
>>57147261
>basic
you just place this on the field?
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>>57147275
Yeah.
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>>57147275
Yup
Just like the EX(Capitals) cards will come and be able to evolve into Megas (Basic Charizard > Mega Chari)
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>>57147261
>>57147260
I hope I will have quit before the game becomes this, because I feel like the warning signs will already be there by the time shit like this arrives.
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>>57147281
If you're afraid of the powercreep, leave now
I mean look at what Mythical Island already did lol

180hp stage 1 mon that kills everything and overtook the meta
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>>57147282
>muh powercreep retard
>muh gyarados boogeyman
>probably from someone who said he sucked
Those pictures are not powercreep, my man. Those pictures are an entirely different game.
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just be happy that at least this wont reach yugioh levels of bullshit
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Just give me a few more hitmonlee type pokemon, then karp might be acceptable.
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>>57147261
>puffy smashers
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>>57147288
Kem imagine being able to Ash people's Oaks, or Imperm a Misty
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>>57147288
Only because the games rules only allow for powercreep in very straightforward ways.
No interaction, barely any negation, and recovery is incredibly limited.
The only things that can go up are HP and damage
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>>57147304
>The only things that can go up are HP and damage
Wrong. I don't think abilities will ever be crazy, or it will be 1+ year before they become crazy, but abilities are the unknown here. And then I suppose Trainer/Item cards.
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>>57147304
For real, i hate how limted the game is. So many cards in real tcg have multiple abilities to use with different energy costs. It would absolutely help with the going first vs going 2nd shit.
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Is it wise to craft a normal Misty-chan card(she's also the love of my life)
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>>57147263
This is why I would rather they not fix evos. Just give me more MI Tauros cards but good. I need to kill EX.
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>>57147282
Eh. Gyarados has a massive weakness that a lot of decks can exploit. For it to really be power creep, Magikarp would need 40 HP.
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>>57147327
she's a jpg
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>>57147332
not that anon but waifus are not just drawings and jpgs
they are the embodiment of hope and dreams
every man has a dream girl that they can spoil and be happy with, even if they do not exist in the real life realm
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>>57147252
bro
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>>57147261
>puffy smashers
Puffy pokepussy...
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So where does the "skill" come in to play in this game, or in any TCG game for that matter.

All of them just seem to be 95% solitaire of you powering up your beatstick and sending them in. Misplays are for you forgetting things rather than you not seeing a 4D chess move.
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>>57147327
I don't care if it's wise or not. I'm 18 packs away from being able to afford her card. Water is my favorite type so I hope we get a lot of wins together using new water cards as they're released
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>>57147301
Explain
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>>57147336
>a dream girl that they can spoil
My waifu spoils me, she's a little bossy sometimes so I need to put her in her place.
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>>57147343
Skill is when I could've thrown a game and I don't
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>>57147343
Skill is when my opponent flips tails and I win.
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>meta finally settled
>Pikachu ex is still the deck to beat
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>>57147343
>So where does the "skill" come in to play in this game
You can sometimes find lines to victory that require some finagling which a retard would not see. Sequencing can also sometimes be a form of skill expression. Being able to read opponent board states and determine what they have or what they're going to do can be "skill", but in this game it's usually more like "what deck are they playing" kind of basic shit. Sometimes you do kinda have to know what the evolution does and account for its damage, I guess.

>or in any TCG game for that matter
In Magic, for example, there are a lot of highly interactive decks where you can be playing cards during your opponent's turns or in response to your opponent playing things. Creatures are a much more "nebulous" concept to deal with than just "my active Pokemon is fighting your active Pokemon". Etc. And that's just in Magic, though the only other TCG I've ever played that I would consider actually good is Netrunner (and it's technically a LCG)

>All of them just seem to be 95% solitaire of you powering up your beatstick and sending them in
You sound like you have not played very many TCGs. Possibly only gacha TCGs. Maybe even literally only this gacha TCG.

>Misplays are for you forgetting things rather than you not seeing a 4D chess move.
As I said earlier, there are occasionally lines that are "4D chess" where you have to retreat your Pokemon to have another Pokemon take a hit in order to survive for exactly enough turns to be able to put enough energy on your wincon while also having it be alive. This can also be a tactic to delay turns and hope to draw whatever card would win you the game. You are correct though that Pokemon TCG Pocket has very, very little "skill" involved. This is almost entirely a children's coinflip card game. It's hilarious and telling when people in these threads choose to treat it like it's serious business or like they are god tier players.
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>>57147313
i hope this is a testing the waters thing, if the sales of the carboard get boosted, I hope we can get a tcg simulator with the quality of Master Duel
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Marnie when
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this game me so fucking
fucking
ANGRY
ARRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH
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>>57147344
>18 packs
I think you're going for the FA misty, I can't even hope to get it outside of wonderpicks as an F2P player, I was talking about the non FA that you can craft for 70 pack points.
But yes Misty-chan will help us roll in Ws
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>>57147389
You what, anon?
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>>57147353
how do i learn to not do this
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>>57147419
Fill up your bench as early as you can
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>>57147078
Been using Raichu + Mag + Buzz with only 1/2 good raichus (GA) and when you roll nicely it's insane. You can dish out 140 in 2 turns and repeat it with max luck. SurgeGODs raise up
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>Failed another Pidgeot EX wonder pick
GRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>>57147456
>GRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>3 Gyarados EX
>3 Mew EX
>3 Pidgeot EX
>0 Celebi EX
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>>57147443
The electric outbreak event exists only to mock me and to remind me that I'll never pull a zapdos or a surge

>>57147456
Kek
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>>57147235
>turn 3 Gardevoir
Sugoi!
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Is there an easy way to do this?
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>>57147470
Cute
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>>57147511
The easy way is to realise that the rewards aren't worth it and the resources are better spent elsewhere
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>>57147462
Weird, this one is very tame even for pokemoa standards
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>>57147513
So there's no bonus reward for doing all these missions? I realized it's not worth spending resources on for this one in particular but wasn't sure if there's any actual purpose for finishing them all.
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>>57147515
Not for mass outbreak event there isn't
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I have opened like 100 pikachu packs and not gotten a single pikachu ex yet
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How is it going nowadays for fire type decks? still working for arcanine? charizard? arcazard?
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>>57147539
Arcanine Mew is my favorite deck in this game
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>>57147528
i opened pika packs for xapdos ex and got 3 immersive pika ex instead...
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>>57147542
lel
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>>57146868
>significantly less random elements than most card games.
This is an oxymoron. All card games are founded on RNG. There are many different "invisible coin flips" that can happen. In physical tcg as an example, your key cards can get prized, you can get bricked on energy, and you can struggle to draw into your evolutions.If you want a skill testing game with no variance, go play chess or something.
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>A: TCGP has less RNG than other TCG
>B: No it's absolutely wrong, let me show you how TCGP has less RNG than the physical pokemon TCG for example
schizo power
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>want 1 Omastar so I can do the meme deck
>have to pull on Pikachu for over a week straight for one card
This game is annoying as fuck
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>>57147470
>>57147512
Not bouncy enough
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Misty memers kneel.
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>>57147245
Not necessarily. You can just play the evolution on the turn you tutor it.
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>>57147590
>for over a week straight for one card
Fucking luckshitter. I've been pulling only pikachu packs since like week 2 and the only Omastar I got was from a wonder pick.
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>>57147511
I only completed this because I happened to get a Gyarados from one of the daily free packs otherwise it's not worth trying to actively complete it
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>>57147511
>>57147657
I don't know why I said Gyarados I meant ZAPDOS
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>>57147633
>Four, I say four evo lines in a single deck
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>>57147658
they're both DOS so it makes sense I gotchu senpai
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I finally did it but still no EX executor
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Finally crafted a Sabrina. 2 months of opening packs to get a waifu is a JOKE!
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Basedperior
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>>57147511
I'd say do a godpick with multiple Zapdos but to the best of my knowledge there isn't one at the moment.

>>57147515
No, it's just a nice bonus. If you weren't already planning to get a Zapdos you should ignore it.
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>>57147678
Based, but we're going to have to wait a while before we see him
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>>57147670
I will know that feel soon
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>>57147681
>140hp
>5 energy attack
>5 energy retreat
>140 damage
>30 damage to self
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Gligar ex will save this game.
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>>57147670
I hate that we still need a second of her
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Oh, look, a Misty went first with Articuno and got four heads so she OTK'd me
Anyone else think that making Misty specifically the sack card was intentional?
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>>57137798
https://youtu.be/S0bzBK-gN4s
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Alright I’m losing interest the current meta of “kill Magikarp on turn 1 or you lose” is not fun and the expansion cards don’t bode well for the future
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>>57147722
Good
This is payback against every last Pikanigger that made the first couple of months feel so insufferable
The more people don't want to play the game, the better
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>>57147725
Pikachu (ft. Zebstrika) has a 75% winrate against Gyarados.
Pikachu (ft. Electabuzz) has a 65% winrate.
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>>57147712
Just roll heads next time bro
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>>57147712
She just pees real hard
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>>57147725
Pikaniggers still slap Gayradosshitters up though
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I love how Mew's skill doesn't work on Pikachu
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>>57147764
>skill
attack
>doesn't work
it literally does
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>>57147768
For a grand total of 0 damage
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>>57147764
just have benched electric pokemon, bro
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ny7menj_M
Machampbros...
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>hookedononix19
>uses celebi
TRAITOR
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>>57147764
I beg the differ
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>>57147132
I played 12 more matches with blaine today. 7 mewtwo, 3 gyarados, one nublaine of some sorts (rapidash/ninetales but also druddigon and arcanine, I beat his ass) and one bricked fire deck (moltres and literally nothing on bench)
then I decided to switch from blaine and try my tryhard pika deck that I don't like using (necessary evil during the winstreak event)
5 matches, 4 celebi and one aerodactyl
HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS MATCHMAKING WORK?
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>>57146668
God I hate new Gyarados. Up until now, I was having mostly no troubles winning with Mewtwo EX, granted that I had to outplay at least twice every match to do so. However I now get stomped by Druddigon Gyarados on the regular no matter how more skilled I am. Fuck this game I spent money for premium and got everything Mewtwo, but now this deck feels outclassed by everything else. Golem is also very broken as it cannot get OHKOd even with Giovanni and I lost some to it, and Celebi of course wins when it gets lucky. Each deck got better while Mewtwo got nothing aside some meme, niche picks. But I'll stick to my humble beginnings and not switch up on Mewtwo, I've decided
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>>57147868
>Mewturd
>Outplaying anyone
Lmao
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>>57147868
>mewtard folding after their t0 deck gets contested once
get fucked
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>>57147275
TagTeams were both the most boring mechanic in the game and absolutely destroyed it because of the stat creep all regular pokemon had to have soon.
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>>57147875
It's tier 1. Gyarados and Scolipede are its only bad matchups but it doesn't have any oppressively good matchups.
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>>57147868
I know you're just baiting, but I'm still gonna call you a retard. Retard.
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>>57147868
This is gonna get (You)s for days
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>>57147260
>>57147261
These are hands down some of the worst arts I’ve seen from the tcg.
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I am forgotten...
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We're forgotten...
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Why is hitmonlee so much better than zebstrika
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>>57147947
More like not needed
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>>57147947
I'll never forget you, you KO'd a bunch of shit for me, it's just a different meta now, I must protect Kangaskhan. Sabrina will avenge you mom.
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>>57147950
If you didn't get a point for destroying those they would be used more.
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>>57147954
Because Marshadow's on the bench ready to avenge him. If you've ever played a game were Hit is on the active spot, and you don't have any benched pokemon, you'll know how fun the matchup can be.
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>>57147950
How could I forget Old Amber? That shit keeps wasting space in my pulls.
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>zapdos ex flair time limited
why
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>>57147346
I'm Yugioh there arr cards that exist for the sole purpose of negating cards that your opponent tries to play that are playable from the hand (commonly referred to as "hand traps"). Ash Blossom and Joyous Spring is probably the most common and famous hand trap that negates a card that tries to move cards from the deck or graveyard to the hand or field, which would negate an Oak.
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Non-ex Pokemon will start having more than 1 move in the next box
Trust the plan
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>>57148007
They should.
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damn im (gladly) surprised blue is so trash, not even the golem decks use the card.
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>>57148002
Type outbreak

Same thing happened with Arcanine ex
Same thing will happen with Mew ex
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>>57148038
I use it and it's saved me multiple times
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>>57148038
Mewtwo decks run it specifically for the mirror match, since it lets Mewtwo tank a hit from either Mewtwo and Mew as long as the opponent doesn't have Giovanni.
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>>57147681
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>>57147936
I'm sorry you feel that way, anon.
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>>57148051
Karpbros first we get this out then we're safe from all those Lees and Zebs
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>break your format
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>everyone playing drudds
>I'm having a good time with my bench hitters
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>play since launch without getting any FA trainers from packs
>get FA Sabrina on Christmas eve
>get FA Misty today
I'm 2/3 of the way to saving for FA Erika, so getting the full trio is within my sights.
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>>57148051
I have a question with cards like these: does preventing damage only mean damage from attacks/abilities or does it also include directly placing damage counters?
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>>57148083
already have that in the pokeball.

nest ball simply won't be added.
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Mewtwo>mew
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I play a good honest deck, do you?
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>>57148125
I play coin flip slop
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>>57148125
what are honest decks
what are dishonest decks
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>>57148137
honest decks: my deck and decks I beat
dishonest decks: decks that beat mine
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My hero
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>>57148142
It's funny because he's losing.
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>>57148051
>30x
If you want to keep that wording, it has to say XX+.
You need a base damage to be able to say "more".

>>57148095
If it's an Ability that say says "Place XX damage counters" the ability will work.
If it's an Attack that say says "Place XX damage counters" the ability will not work.
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>>57148095
I'm guessing it'd be the former.
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>>57148129
You can be coinflip slop and still be honest
See: Arcanine
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>>57148095
Rewording this >>57148155
If it's an Ability that say says "Place XX damage counters" the damage will be prevented.
If it's an Attack that say says "Place XX damage counters" the damage will be not prevented.
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>>57148139
I play honest decks precisely because they beat corny bullshit decks, so no
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>>57147719
Yes, this is the real stuff now
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>>57147768
The only way it would work is as a tech in non pika ex electric deck, where you can build energies with magneton while giving turn energies for mew. Too specific
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>>57146870
I missed the rainbow cards. ;_;
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>>57147950
>he doesn't run fossils in his turbo Gyarados
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>>57148210
I would've screamed
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>>57148217
I didn't waste any glass on it and I do run a Scolipede deck so I can't be too upset with Koga. But I really like the art on Gengar and I still need Articuno for the bird emblem.
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there's something really fun about both playing the slowest possible match, feels very intellectual
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What deck should I use to do the 45 wins event?
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>>57148248
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>>57146801
>Teras
Fucking disgusting
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Has anyone ever been thanked by a Dragonite player?
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>>57147947
It was a cool card, druddigon is lame and takes no effort to use.
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>>57146801
>>57146825
Tera Hats are the most retarded gimmick yet, looks fucking stupid
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Will they raise the level cap when the new set hits next month?
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>chew through egg ex, 2 celebi, and 2 erica
>piloting aero
>no “thanks”
Ok then
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>>57148277
No. Pay up if you want more gold.
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>>57146801
>>57146825
>GOOD dragon cards
>bullshit present in the tcg
>pic unrelated
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Reccomend me good decks that are consistent into everything. I dont get how i am supposed to get a 5 win streak with how volatile shit feels right now. I see my opponent send out druddigon and froakie and try all my power not to consneed immediately.
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>>57147234
Sandslash always feels like a momentum sink to me, so it's probably a good idea.
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>>57148295
Scolipede and weezing. Pack kogas and Sabrina. I prefer leaf for easy retreats.
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>>57148303
Yeah honestly, im really starting to think broken NON-ex cards are gonna be the future. If you can compose a deck of broken cards that dont give 2 prize points when ko’d, thats a massive deal.
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I'm sick of playing PVP, people don't even send Thanks anymore unless I concede which feels so soulless on their part, I'm just running Koga but I guess they get salty if their fancy new deck loses to it or they don't get their BS coin flips and blame me for it
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>>57148303
Scolipede deserved better than a 5ban slop illustration
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>>57148295
This is the highest winrate deck on Limitless right now. It auto-loses to Mewtwo (doesn't perform well in tournaments) but has excellent matchups against anything else.
(Substitute the P-A Mankeys for A1a Mankeys if you don't have them.)
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>>57147764
I have lost multiple games because I forgot how that attack works, and I will lose more in the future.
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>>57148210
>>57148237
I find this hilariously ironic because I wanted the Koga or Articuno for the playset and got the Gengar instead when I don't plan on playing the Gengar deck. Trading can't come soon enough. It just makes situations like these so silly the longer we go without it.
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>>57148295
I’m not looking forward to it, but I think I’m going to run Pika / Zeb (likely with a Dedenne instead of Pincurchin). The online meta is likely going to be mostly M2 / Gyarados with a dash of Celebi / Pika.
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>>57148210
Me too, but I got the Gio. Not a terrible consolation considering how relevant the card is.
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Predict the effects of the Johto Gym leaders
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Speaking of Gengar, how do you even run a Gengar deck? I feel like whatever I cook up feels worse to play with than just going Mewtwo, which isn't a good feeling since the point is to play Gengar.
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>>57148320
Why the new Primeape instead of the old one? It's pretty strong if you already chipped yourself with Mankey
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>>57148334
You either get it out asap or hope to god you're playing against me because I shove all my supporters up my ass til lategame like they're draw 4s.
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>>57148295
This is another deck worth your time. People are sleeping on It, but it's a better deck than Gyarados. It's winrates are about the same for most matchups (marginally better for some, marginally worse for others) but it has a significantly better Mewtwo matchup and a tremendously better Pikachu matchup.

>>57148335
It can attack on turn 3 and it's less energy hungry.
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>>57148334
Pack Slabs and pick meatshields among Sigilyph for draw power no damage, Psyduck for gimmicky supporter lockdown but no damage/survivability or the more standard Beheeyem/Slurpuff/Clefable. Mew ex + Expeditioner is good too, but both Gengar ex and Mew ex want 3 energy to do their thing
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>>57148335
New primeape is an out for when you go first. Every relevant deck needs one imo
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>>57148349
>drud
Fuck that. Worst addition to the game and probably first nerf.
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>>57148362
>Worst addition to the game
I won't disagree with that, but if you're trying to win that deck is peak Drudd.
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>>57148362
I run a similar build with that but replace the 2 Druds with an Articuno ex and Misty instead
An older form of cancer if you will
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>>57148366
Why is it pushed? Ftplayers still don't have parts for more meta decks? Only carp ran it and I like my weezing greninja deck for the bench strat.
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>>57148349
What energy do you even run
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>>57148362
>the first basic mon with an ability's going to be the first nerf
nah, drudd wasn't even meta worthy when it was release simply because there were many, many better mons with basic abilities that were worth running
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druddigon was better before people learned to not be afraid of it
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>>57148386
He is the Stealth Rock of this meta
Softening up everything into revenge kill range
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Any new player guides?
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>>57148390
Erika Chan and my 2 potions will save me
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leave zebstrika to me
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Can't believe they've made 85 trillion dollars in 2 months with a game where if you go 1st you lose and you go 2nd you win.
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>>57148390
unless they don't attack in which case he's just a decent-ish wall
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>>57148381
NTA but probably water and fire
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>>57148408
It is amazing just how much money pokemon can squeeze out of people
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>>57148408
total scrub mentality
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>>57148381
Fire+Water

You're not going to Mist Slash early in the game so failing to find water energy isn't a problem.
Dragon Slash isn't likely to come up, but having more Pokemon to fall back on after Mew dies (or runs away) is nice.
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>>57148385
Why would they nerf Porygon?
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>>57148215
I saw that yesterday. Dude styled on me so hard.
>Drud in front, Magikarp and 2 ambers in the back
>Turn one Misty. A flop as usual
>Couldn't get the damage together before Gyarados came out
>Can't pull sabrina to save my life, not that it mattered
>Finally bring down Drud, but it's too late
>Fucker brings out fully charged Gyarados, puts down the helix fossil in his hand, and then discards each fossil down the line leaving Garados the only problem on the field
I folded immediately.
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am i the only one who ragers quit turn 3 if i see an oak/pokeball after using mythical slab?
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>>57148459
Mythical slab was definitely a mistake. Mewtwo feels like the ultimate pubstomp deck now.
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>>57148333
>Falkner
Place 2 energy on a Pidgey or Pidgeotto
>Bugsy
Add 1 Metapod or Kakuna from your deck to your hand
>Whitney
Place 1 energy on Miltank and heal 30 damage from it
>Morty
Evolve 1 Gastly or Haunter by playing its evolution from your hand or deck
>Chuck
Poliwrath and Primeape do 30 more damage this turn
>Jasmine
Your Metal Pokemon take 20 less damage from all abilities and attacks until the end of your opponent's next turn
>Pryce
Flip a coin, if heads your opponent's next attack deals no damage, if tails your opponent's next attack deals damage to 1 of your benched Pokemon of their choice
>Clair
Your opponent cannot receive any point(s) on the next turn if attacking with a Pokemon currently in their Active Spot, but can place 1 extra energy from their energy pile on a Pokemon on that turn
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druddigon guarados is cancer but why dont you guys just play electric decks? They really do slaughter that deck.
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>>57148248
Please respond I'm scared and haven't touched ladder
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>Heem the opening Drudd with Giovanni turn 3
>Guy sends in his fucking Gyarados against my Pikachu and Misty flips
>Concedes when it pops tails
Can we lock these people up
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>>57148471
You can just use whatever. The only oppressive deck is Gyarados and it's only ~ 10% of the matches.
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>>57148349
I’ve been using a similar deck but with Flareon in place of a second Mew, it’s probably my favorite deck from this meta and generally plays really smooth aside from the energies fucking you over occasionally. What’s the fossil for? I fuck with the Red Card but Drudd really likes Potions
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>>57148471
DruddiChud or Pika to smack DruddiChud
inb4 my only ex is marowak
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I'm using Golem with 2 Brocks and I'm gettin good results, so far my biggest counters are 10 coins celebi and Sabrina.
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>>57148408
The real redpill is that it would actually have made less money if it wasn't purposefully unbalanced.
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>>57148489
The fossil is Sabrina counterplay (or a delayed switch-in after a KO). I don't see any harm in cutting it for a Potion.
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Tbh, even worst than M2 and Gyarados, is seeing my opp dealing 90 dmg with a turn 4 pikachu
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>>57147950
>>57148215
>>57148443
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>>57148470
Because gyarados isn't that common and playing pika makes you easy food for celebi and mewtwo.
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>>57147950
>he doesn't put fossils into every one of his decks as a Sabrina counter
ngmi, they're even better than baby mewtwo
t. ex-professional TCG player
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>>57148408
It's a lot of carriage before the horse thinking. The people spending a ton think TCGP is going to be a really big thing so invest heavily in it, without being aware of all its hollowness and shortcomings. It's a bubble that can't pop because if it does the joke will be on all those morons who went in too deep before knowing enough about the game, and they don't want the joke to be on them so they keep it going.
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>>57148499
why run 2 mythical slabs?
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>>57148518
Pokedex + slab could cause you to draw gyarados. It probably won't, but that's still more utility than extra fossils. Other trainer cards can clog your hand (can't play 2 supporters in 1 turn, can't play potion if all your pokemon have full health, can't play flute if your opponent's discard has no basics, etc.).
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>>57148535
>Pokedex + slab could cause you to draw gyarados
Eh? How? Gyarados isn't Psychic.
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*winks at the camera*
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>>57148543
NTA but consider:
>pokedex
>1st card w/e, 2nd card gyarados, 3rd card w/e
Then you slab, send the 1st card to the bottom, and now you draw Gyarados 1 turn faster than you would
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>>57148553
Ohh, that's what he meant.
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How am I losing with Mewtwo deck is this some deck weight thing, I'm going for 8/9 winstreaks with Celebi.
Is celebi in fact a tier 0 deck ?
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>>57148492
What the fuck does this mean
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>>57148566
NTA, he's informing you that you need to run a Druddigon-Gyarados EX deck or A Pikachu EX deck to defeat Druddigon-Gyarados EX decks for the win/winstreak event
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>>57148566
People here like to ask for event advice and then say they ‘can’t build any meta decks’ because they pulled into 3 packs or have a bricked account
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Just had to let a Wiggly-Arcanine EX wonderpick go because I didn't want to spend the wonderglasses, was it unwise of me ?
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>>57148581
That was totally reasonable. I didn't have to spend wonderglass on https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1735408317896693.png but if I had to I might not have taken it.
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Nice Misty rolls bro.
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>>57148437
Who?
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>>57148604
The first basic mon with an ability.
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>change one item card for another in deck
>game decides it needs to redo my energy setup for the deck and autoassign energy types

No I'm pretty sure I know that I want to stay with water energy only thank you shit game
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>>57148613
https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=23804437241108
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>>57148385
They aren't going to nerf anything because this isn't a JCC (see Hearthstone, LoR), but a TCG.
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I don't know if anyone believes me but I switched to always throwing Misty coins as hard as I can towards the top and now I unironically get heads a lot
I used to do the faintest tiny flips like usual for Misty and that never worked before
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>Mew EX just tried to copy Lovestrike
lmao
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20 punish damage was too far
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>>57148362
More likely we just get this in the next set to counter Druddigon. Allows 160 HP attackers to kill Druddigon without putting them in OHKO range for Gyarados.
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>>57148640
Justified Card Crasher?
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>GyaraEX vs Celebi deck
>got my pumped up Gyarados EX in the back
>he has a fat Celebi EX in the back
>neither wants to go front first because then the other will swap in and oneshot
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Basic ex is horse shit
130 hp no req for bringing it out vs
140 hp needs 3 cards and 3 turns
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we fucking won aero bros
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What happens if neither side wants to retreat their druddigon up front and we both just sit here forever
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>>57148680
The game ties after the 30 turn limit.
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>>57148685
I see, wish I could see what turn I'm on
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draws for Gyarados are very fucking tilting
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>>57148678
I accidentally brought my mon out to attack today and forgot about Aero so I couldn’t evolve lel, I need a nap
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>>57148671
Just hit it.
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>>57148678
I've been thinking that Farfetch'd would work as a replacement for MI Primeape in that deck, but being worse into Pikachu and Drudd makes me second guess it.
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>>57148680
Drudg is a good filter for bad decks
You can one shot
Punish for being in active by bench snipe or poison
Punish for having energy (jynx etc
Punish for not having energy by having non dmg active pokemon like chatot help you cycle
Send to bench like victreebel
Every deck should be able to deal with a wall
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>>57148694
pikachu gets destroyed by marshadow anyway, for drudd i usually use hitmonlee backed by marshadow anyway
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>>57148692
I clearly won, and my argument is separate from the match outcome
Basic ex is overpowered
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>>57148696
Not when it's a mirror and whoever brings the big guy out first loses
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Aero + Farfetchd/Primeape is the most honest deck currently
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>>57148702
Then you reach the point where you stop net decking and adjust to the meta
Think for yourself
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>>57148694
This is what I'm currently using. I like how fast the duck is.
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>>57148709
never
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>>57148709
>please adjust in the middle of the match for a match that you won't have the next time
You're also a retard if you think you need to look at what people do, there's very limited possibilities here
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>>57148699
Your Scolipede clearly has a massive advantage other than easily soaking up damage. AND you get 2 points for knocking out his Mew. It's a really weird thing to complain about here.
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>Nidoking one-shots Drudd
>Nidoqueen "CAN" one-shot Gyara
hmmm
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>>57148696
Walls are fine, Drudd is an electric fence unfortunately and that's not cool according to Geneva conventions or something
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>druddigon is literally deal 20 damage for two turns and then swing for 90
Clearly vee pee is dogshit at card games if this is what causes them to lose
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>>57148726
This is bait.
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>>57148726
if u put energy on drudd ur gay and obese
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>>57148738
This is me. (I drew X-Speed but not Leaf)
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>>57148732
Mate, I've played MANY card games over the last 15 years of my life
Mtg, ygo, pokemon, shadowverse, hearthstone, digimon, one piece
You name a digital one and I've played it.
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>>57148748
>hasn't played hololive OCG
Opinion discarded.
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>>57148726
Yeah, man, I've been saying that same thing pretty much. Druddigon is doing immense mental damage to the shitters in this thread. Like, I still think Druddigon is better than Kangaskhan because it's consistent, but if all Druddigons were replaced with Kangaskhans, then people would (on average) be taking more damage from Kanga than from Drudd, but Drudd is what causes them to lose their minds.

The people complaining about Druddigon are the same exact posters who were complaining about Celebi, Mewtwo, and Pikachu. They just complain about everything.
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>>57148738
>>57148726
In my PidgEX deck sometimes I put energy on Drudd. It's usually a second Drudd and not the one I started with, but it's VERY funny when both my opponent and I brick so I just power up Drudd and win.
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>>57148671
Just hit him?
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SeethetwoEX knows he cannot do anything but take 20 dmg from Drudchad before my Gyarachad comes in and he's down to 130
Struggling and squirming
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>>57148748
Austin Powers TCG?
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>>57148759
>then people would (on average) be taking more damage from Kanga than from Drudd
On the slim chance you're not trolling, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what Drudd's primary purpose is. It exists to deal chip damage one single time to your Mewtwo EX or whatever when you finally decide to one shot Drudd. This means that Gyarados EX can come in at full HP and one shot it. On top of that, Drudd takes 0 energy to do this and has a lower retreat cost meaning Leaf will let you switch it out if the Gyarados player is in position to take the initiative.
If the Gyarados player wanted to start Dizzy Punching your Mewtwo, then you should be breathing a sigh of relief, secure in the fact that they are 1 energy behind, and you'll be able to switch in your other Mewtwo to one shot it in a few turns and tank a hit from Gyarados.

I don't actually care much about Drudd's existence in the game though it does warp the meta to some extent. But I expect that will be changing heavily in a month's time.
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>>57148764
It's clearly about how 3 cards are needed for 140 hp while someone could just put mew down turn 0 for a 130 hp wall
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Drud is lame cause it encourages both sides to just let turns run until your bullshit is fully built behind the retarded dragon which makes matches boring and long
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New meta just dropped
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>>57146821
>>57146957
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>>57148790
Loses to 1 mewtwo ex
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>>57148795
Farfetchd + Marshadow unironically buttfucks him thougheverbeit
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my last 7 misty's have been insta-tails
holy shit
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>>57148790
>new meta
>3-0-0
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>>57148786
Yeah but the first two fards do like 90 damage to it in 2 turns, if he switches, Whirlipede can not evo and just attack to set up a kill with Scoli.
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>>57148803
UNDEFEATED
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>face T1 Articuno
>hits two heads on Misty
>I have card draw at least
>Red Cards away my other Oak and any other hope of winning the game
>brick draws
Okay sure I was like on a 10 game streak anyway fuck you
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>>57148804
I usually evo it in that standoff to clear the poison.
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>>57148793
This is pure sex.
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>>57148780
>On the slim chance you're not trolling, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what Drudd's primary purpose is.
Dear anon, I'm not trolling, and I understand what """Drudd's primary purpose""" is. Kangaskhan would, on average, be dealing more damage, and in every example anyone has ever given here before (previously, and most recently, Farfetch'd) the Kangaskhan would have a better shot at killing the Pokemon before it kills the Kangaskhan. And even in the Farfetch'd example, it trades 1:1 with Drudd, which is potentially better than if it had been a Kangaskhan.

>It exists to deal chip damage one single time to your Mewtwo EX or whatever when you finally decide to one shot Drudd.
Right. And if Kangaskhan were there instead, it would have done, on average, 60 damage to whatever you have in front. Drudd's true primary purpose is the mental damage that its Ability causes. Gyarados still ohkos Mewtwo with Giovanni, and Mewtwo cannot ohko Gyarados.
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>>57148809
Anon your 12 winstreak medal
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>>57148803
it's 4-0 now, soon you'll be kneeling
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>>57148812
I don't think you understand how important being 1 energy behind is.
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>>57148790
I’ve been running the Aero ex variant for several days, and this deck is decent for what it is. The M2 matchup is too shit for me to consider the deck to be great, however. You pretty much have to open with Farfetch’d and a Marshadow to have a shot there.
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>>57148790
One sabrina and you're bricked lmao
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>>57148818
>I don't think you understand how important being 1 energy behind is.
Believe me, I very much do. I've been saying since the beginning that turn 1 is dogshit on purpose, and people used to shit on me for saying such a thing. Being 1 energy behind is pretty big, but if you are going first you're already 1 energy behind.

The only real deck that is playing Druddigon is Misty/Gyarados, so when people complain about Druddigon, they are actually complaining about Gyarados. Gyarados can overcome a 1 energy "deficit" due to Kangaskhan attacks, and it can even overcome a 1 energy Kangaskhan deficit *and* a going-first energy deficit in the same game.
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>>57148833
>The only real deck that is playing Druddigon is Misty/Gyarados
And Golem
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>>57148790
how
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>>57148790
How is this meant to actually win
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>>57148825
I have a decent winrate as long as I go second vs M2
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>>57148838
Golem is not a real deck (yet). I've played even fewer Golems than I've played Gyarados.
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>>57148790
Kek I just played against this exact deck wondering wtf was that
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>>57148843
>>57148844
>chip with hitmonlee/bird
>finish them with marshadow after they die
It's actually quite smart
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Hitmonlee + Aero is pretty good to counter Magikarp, but if they already get the evo off then you don't really have much going on anymore
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>>57148844
>gyarados
hitmonlee or farfetchd
>mewtwo
this one is the hardest, but you smack M2 with Farfetched while you have a Marshadow on bench with 1 energy to retaliate, HItmonlee if he retreats
>Pikachu
this one is usually free, Marshadow 1 shots pikachu
>Moltres
Hitmonlee pokemon theyre powering up while you have Marsh on Bench
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>>57148812
>I understand what Drudd's primary purpose is
>now let me go on to explain how Kangaskhan is better because it does something completely else which would be nowhere near as good for the deck people are actually complaining about
I see now.
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>>57148854
Hitmonlee it on the bench while you have Marshadow waiting, the only time you lose is if they get lucky with Misty
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>>57148855
You forgot the scoop if you go first part but that's every deck in the game anyway. This one just goes all in on it.
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>>57148855
What about Celebi?
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>>57148847
Sure, but that’s less than a 50% win rate at that point. M2’s first attack one shotting everything that isn’t Aero after a Gio is rough.
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Blue only being -10 is so underwhelming and dogshit, why wouldn't they do -20
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I want a pokemon that has an ability to disallow one specific enemy pokemon to evolve, not the one in the active slot
Just any specific one I choose
Or an item card
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>>57148830
So true, he forgor his fossils.
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>>57148858
>now let me go on to explain how Kangaskhan is better
Can you read, shitposter? I said that I think Druddigon is better:

>"Like, I still think Druddigon is better than Kangaskhan because it's consistent, but if all Druddigons were replaced with Kangaskhans, then people would (on average) be taking more damage from Kanga than from Drudd, but Drudd is what causes them to lose their minds."
See?
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>>57148844
>Hitmonlee chip damages the bench with Marshadow revenge kill to counter bench energy placement strategies like Gyarados and Golem
>Farfetch'd beatdown with Marshadow revenge kill to counter anything else
>2nd Marshadow revenge kill to counter them killing your Marshadow who just revenge killed
Sometimes a deck just smackin' stuff around every turn is all you need.
It'd usually lose super hard to like, Exeggutor EX or an early Weezing
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>>57148866
Celebi is Mewtwo but with lower health and worse consistency. And in this case no +20 advantage damage.
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>>57148878
Why are you acting like you find it weird that people "lose their minds" over the good deck that is dominating the meta instead of the bad one that "does more damage"?
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People sure dropped their Blaine decks fast
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>>57148881
To be fair, egg ex shits all over low health decks, in general. Grass was an auto loss for a lot of the meme decks I ran last format.
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>>57148891
Gyarados do be like that.
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>my 30 hp karp sitting out cold
>enemy celebi has 5 energy and hits 5 tails
kek
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>Need 20 more wins
>12 days
okay we good
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>>57148790
>deck revolves around you losing prize cards
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>>57148891
>People sure dropped their Blaine decks fast
i still use blaine for missions because it's quicker than charizard/moltres. (and it settles the "nonrare" mission.
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>>57148790
i like the Aero version better, why the fuck do you need Potion in this
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>>57148891
For me, it was the Arcanine deck. I was primed to take a dump all over a Pika/Celebi/M2/Zard landscape only for Gyarados (and Drudd) to fuck the deck over. It’s not worth running now.
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The funniest deck is a quick normal aero and when they just lose cause they got nothing else out
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Game animations are so painfully slow I can't believe people are really running decks that take a lot of turns to even get going. I get that Gyarados is strong but that shit is so boring you legit need to be braindead to do the 45win challenge on a deck like that or Golem.
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>>57148696
Drudd is not and has never been the problem, arguably the 2 mons it enables in its strongest archetype are, if anything, but it’s quite beatable. That fucking 20 damage is more psychological than anything.
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>>57148878
Not him, but Kangaskhan does whatever damage he does for 1 energy, that's 1 less energy for the opponent wincon compared to yours and 2 less if the opponent went first.
You also get an opportunity to heal whatever damage Kangaskhan previously did before knocking it out, allowing you to escape a potential revenge kill.
Druddigon is CERTAIN to do 20 and sometimes 40 for 0 energy cost and gives you no opportunity to remedy the damage.
The latter part is a massive advantage over Kangaskhan
Not to mention the retreat cost, I know you admitted drudd is better but you're also trying to make it look like it's not much different but the reality is Druddigon is magnitudes better than Kangaskhan and is quite broken
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>>57148917
>hehe I'm sitting here biding my time until Mew2 EX is charged up
>hehe I'm sitting here biding my time until Charizard EX is charged up
>hehe I'm sitting here biding my time until Celebi is charged up
>hehe I'm sitting here biding my time until Gyarados is charged up
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>>57148909
Bruv it's running hand scope. What would it cut potion for, pokedex?
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>>57148885
>Why are you acting like you find it weird that people "lose their minds"
No, no, no, no. You don't get to air quote "lose their minds". People are losing their minds over Druddigon. They're losing their minds over Druddigon even harder than they were losing their minds over Pikachu and Mewtwo. They are losing their minds over Druddigon about as equally as they were losing their minds over Tier 0 Celebi for 4 days or however long that lasted. People are losing their god damned minds over Druddigon.

>over the good deck that is dominating the meta
I still play against more Mewtwo and Pika and Celebi than I do Gyarados. I think I still play against more Moltres than Gyarados too. Gyarados is just another deck in the "Misty" pile, because Water energy for me doesn't mean Gyarados necessarily. It's just another deck in the format, and the game is all coinflips, so unless there is a type advantage, every deck is essentially the same deck, but I think my truth bombing in that regard is kinda getting off topic.

Anyway, when people bitched about Mewtwo, at least they bitched about Mewtwo. When people bitched about Pikachu, at least they bitched about Pikachu. When people bitched about Celebi, at least they bitched about Celebi. When people bitched about Misty decks in GA, at least they bitched about Misty. For some reason, which I cannot wrap my mind around, now that a brew deck is actually good (Gyarados), people are losing their minds about the wrong fucking card, as if Druddigon is the problem. It's not. Druddigon is a slight upgrade to Kangaskhan, and it helps out off-meta decks. There are no meta decks that run Drudd except Gyarados, because Gyarados truly is just an off-meta deck that happens to be good. It's a brew deck through and through. Everyone here (but me) clowned on Gyarados when he was revealed, which I think is why they choose to bitch about Drudd instead. They don't want to have been "wrong"
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>>57148921
That anon just likes to argue. It’s best to ignore him.
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Holy fuck Gyarados is a fucked up deck. Literally only lose if I brick.
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>>57148950
>Literally only lose if I brick.
That's all the top meta decks.
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>>57148871
muh bench
it's supposed to be a counter to ArtiEX, not Giovanni
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>>57148939
False. I'm trying to make people see that their bitching is misguided and retarded. You idiots should be complaining about Gyarados. And actually, you are complaining about Gyarados, since that's the only meta deck that runs him. You're just too proud or something to say that it's Gyarados that you have an issue with, so it's gotta be some random fucking Kangaskhan sidegrade/powercreep card that only one deck is running, but than any off-meta deck would like to have in its toolbox.

>>57148921
see >>57148833
We already did this. A better target for the endless Druddigon bitching would be to instead bitch about Misty and Gyarados. Those are the cards you have a problem with. And it doesn't even have to be Kangaskhan. People were using regular Mewtwo in decks as a proto-Druddigon too. With regular Mewtwo, Gyarados still comes out and sweeps everything. We all thought he was bad and laughed at him, remember? Haha.

>Druddigon is CERTAIN to do 20 and sometimes 40 for 0 energy cost and gives you no opportunity to remedy the damage.
I've already said that I think Druddigon is better because it's consistent (and does mental damage). I don't think it's a MASSIVE advantage, but it is enough that I consider Druddigon to be better.
>I know you admitted drudd is better but you're also trying to make it look like it's not much different but the reality is Druddigon is magnitudes better than Kangaskhan and is quite broken
Drudd is neither "magnitudes" better than Kangaskhan, nor is he broken. Once again, Gyarados is the only meta deck that runs Drudd. Your beef is with Gyarados and Misty. Maybe even Greninja. Your beef is not with Drudd. Drudd could be replaced with Kangaskhan or regular Mewtwo and it would still be a deck that you spend all day bitching about.
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>>57148965
>False
No, it’s true, and you’re easier to spot than you think. I’ve been ignoring you for several threads now because you aren’t worth engaging with. It’s shitposting, intentional or not.
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>>57148917
>Game animations are so painfully slow
This is what needs to happen for a better QOL. Just the time of activating an item or trainer could be reduced to half of what it is. Drawing and shuffling animations could be faster too.
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>>57148882
Celebi is also farfetch/hitmonlee into marshadow, this deck loses if they have stuff like double erika in hand though
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>>57148891
It was never good.
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>>57148965
If you don't think 20 damage for 0 energy cost that cannot be remedied isn't a massive advantage over 30 damage that can be healed on average for 1 energy cost then you are retarded and have no idea what you're talking about and this is almost certainly babbys first TCG.
Druddigon is broken and is absolutely miles clear of Kangaskhan as a wall.
What a waste of keystrokes
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>>57149000
It was fun.
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>>57149000
You're insane
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>>57148979
>No, it’s true, and you’re easier to spot than you think.
What sort of schizo shit is this? Why would you imply that I'm trying to disguise myself or something? Why would I do that? I don't give a shit about what you retards think of an anonymous poster.

>I’ve been ignoring you for several threads now because you aren’t worth engaging with.
Just like you're doing now? ;)
I have been saying that Druddigon complainers are retards for a few days, yeah. I'm not trying to hide that or whatever schizo shit you're saying. I'm really just repeating the same talking points because they're true. I don't understand why you think this makes you a detective. The new development here is that someone made a post essentially agreeing with what I've been saying.

>It’s shitposting, intentional or not.
I think the shitposting is coming from people who complain about Drudd multiple times per day when their issue is actually with Gyarados. If they could just direct their bitching at either Gyarados or Misty instead, I would leave you retards alone, because at least you'd be accurate in your complaints. Even more recently, the bitch-squad decided to complain about Greninja (everything in the Gyarados deck seems to be a problem except Gyarados) and I didn't reply to the thread because sure, I can see it. But Druddigon? You guys are retarded.
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you still type like a yugioh player
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>>57149015
Oh, you're that schizo lol
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i finally ran into someone who's just running the clock after they began losing
how fucking lame lmao
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Maybe the key to pocket was psychological warfare all along
>Druddigon
>Red Card
>Aerodactyl
What are some other cards that will make the opponent lose their head, or overwhelm them?
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>>57149032
I haven't looked into it, but if you rigged a private battle to test the extremes I don't think it'd be possible to use all 20 minutes.
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>>57149002
>Druddigon is broken and is absolutely miles clear of Kangaskhan as a wall.
Druddigon is neither broken nor "miles clear" of Kangaskhan as a wall, and you're still actually complaining about Gyarados.
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you must love fighting all meta decks, complaining or criticizing is not allowed here sirs
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>>57149036
The threat of 100 damage from Marshadow will stop people from doing the correct play quite often
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>>57149036
Hitmonlee scares people away from playing basics.
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you must seethe and complain about fighting all meta decks, reasonable thoughts and logic is not allowed here sirs
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>>57149012
I’d tell you to use a trip, but again, your posts are obviously yours. You always insist on pointing that out, yourself.

Imagine needing this much attention and validation from an anonymous board of retards. Pretty cool.
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you must seethe and complain about seething and complaining about fighting all meta decks, reasonable thoughts and logic is not allowed here sirs
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>>57146674
???
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How come nu-Exeggutor doesn't get more play? 80 damage + variable from oponent's energy is insane for 2 energy + Serperior
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>>57149057
>more schizo shit, still insinuating that I would ever attempt to disguise myself or whatever
>projection that I'm seeking attention or validation
Look, if you're allowed to complain constantly about playing this children's game, then I'm allowed to tell your bitching is directed at the wrong card.
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>>57148917
Playing 2 pokeballs + Oak in a single turn should be considered a war crime
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>>57149066
What is this tranny cord shit?
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>>57149066
Imagine doing all this gay autistic shit just to pull the Vaporeon from it
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>>57149067
Alakazam that needs serp or costs an extra energy isn't worth it and everyone still playing Celebi, which just competes with it for energy
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>>57146821
Ok
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>>57149070
>schizo deflection (again)
Yeah, use that one again lmao.

You’ve shit up multiple threads with
>TELL ME HOW RIGHT I AM!!!
when you’re clearly in the running for biggest knuckle dragger here. Why do you care what we think so much?
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>>57149089
>only 20 more damage to discard your bench
That shit blows
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>>57149091
Oh god, not another retard who doesn't participate in the conversation topic and just keeps saying no u.
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>>57149067
It doesn't kill mewtwo (w/out giovanni) and it doesn't kill gyarados (at all)
it's good against exactly celery (which has fallen from grace)
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>>57149084
The "gay autistic shit" is copy and pasting one friend code, with 0 players on your friendslist(which has no other functionality, unless you really enjoy liking your "friends'" binders) and then opening up the wonderpick menu and wonderpicking for a 1/5 chance for the card you wanted. You do this for 5 minutes a day once every 48 hours to get the cards you want without needing to pay.
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>>57149067
cause exeggutor butterfree is still a great mid range deck and it really doesn't need serperior
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>>57149094
Turning any fossil or basic into a double strength Giovanni that doesn't even eat into your supporters per turn is good actually. But it's a fake card so who gives a shit. It's not even made in MS Paint.
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>>57149107
hey man i see you, very nice posts man. high quality tbqhwy very high spoken
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>>57149098
I’m sorry. What part of me joining the conversation to tell you to stop being a faggot in every thread led you to believe I was participating in the retarded “discussion” you were having prior to that?
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>>57149107
How effective is this strat ?
Like am I guaranteed to get it in my wonderpicks?
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>>57149084
Nah that post wasn't even the gay shit.
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>>57149107
this sounds gay and autistic
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Is Gyarados good or is it pure cope
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>>57149119
Not unless it's the only pack that bot account pulled. You might need to check again after an hour or so
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>>57149118
>admitting to shitposting
Anon... if you're just going to call me a shitposter while simultaneously refusing to participate in the conversation just so that you can proudly say "no u" over and over again, I'll go ahead and let you "win" and stop replying to you, how about that? You'd like that, I can tell. See you next time!
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>>57149119
>How effective is this strat ?
Very.
>Like am I guaranteed to get it in my wonderpicks?
Sometimes you get the wrong pack from them and have to try again in a few hours.
It's never taken me more than 3 tries.
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>>57149130
That weekly 1000 player tourney is happening so ill just wait for the results. Regardless it seems gyarados is doing just fine.
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>>57149119
>How effective is this strat ?
I wish I had started sooner.
>Like am I guaranteed to get it in my wonderpicks?
Not guaranteed, but likely.
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>>57149131
Right, thanks, one last thing though,at what point do I give up on that particular God pack ?
I might consider doing this, better than vanilla waiting for a decent pack to appear for 5 days only to whiff the wonderpick anyway
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>>57149130
If we learned anything from Celebi, it's that currently Gyarados is a Tier 0 deck, and that if it doesn't win the egirl tournament, it's actually a meme deck that is so bad you can't even include it in general conversation about the experiential "meta" of the event queue.
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>>57149139
When you get it probably. They only stay pickable for like 3 days and the guy listed when it'll expire.
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>>57149130
Both of the Mistys I tried to play resulted in immediate tails so it sucks
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>>57149122
Shit like this is why I wonderpick them from the Chinese server.

>>57149123
fair

>>57149119
Each pack you pull has a % chance to be available for a Wonder Pick, what ends up happening is the rerolled account has anywhere between 1 and 4 packs opened and you'll have a random chance of either finding the one you want or one of the others in your Wonder Picks. Sometimes only the good pack is wonder pickable, sometimes not. You can be discerning if you please.
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Calling it right now, someones gonna win with eggs and celebi.
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4 aero + farfetchd/primeape in top 32 so far
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>>57149139
Packs live for at most 3 days IIRC but they have a chance to die after every reset.
If no one posts about getting the pack after ~ 2 hours past reset it probably died.

>>57149146
>the Chinese server.
Don't have that one. Are any of the packs in English?
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>>57149148
he's played 5 gyarados in 6 matches, he's kicking the fuck out of those magikarp
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>>57148312
If i get shit stomped I dont send a thanks

simple as
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>>57149148
Lots if celebi too, i guess that deck finally got optimized
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>>57148678
>Gary ex is the worse ex in the game!
>nonono Aero is is now the worse ex in the game!
Why is /ptcg/ and reddit always wrong?
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OUT OF LIKE 15 MISTY CARDS
I'VE GOTTEN 13 TAILS ON THE FIRST FLIP
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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This game made me wanna buy some real pokemon cards for fun. Is it even possible? I checked online and its either all sold out or being resold. The fuck is wrong with people
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>>57149153
discord dot gg / an-hei-po-huai-shen-ivzhong-wen-she-gun-536100557623132161
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>>57149162
Tbh aerodactyl is still bad, its just a better option than marowack. Wack is such a bad card but dodged critcism for whatever reason
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>>57149164
>for fun
nope
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>>57149159
agreed, only cucks thank others for an ass beating
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>>57149164
Single cards or boosters? You can buy cards pretty easily. Boosters/boxes are a bit more harder. The latest stuff rn are always out of stock (Surging Sparks, the new tera eevee one is also outta stock)

But
>For fun
You can buy Japanese boxes pretty cheap and all the latest set are in stock
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>>57149168
it's ability has actually won a decent amount of games for me, it's a slightly worse starmie and amber > staryu
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>>57149175
Is there a specific place thats best to buy them at? I used to play a bit in the early 2000s as a kid but want to try again.
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>>57149181
idk where you are, but i just order mine online. Boxes mostly (because people can be shady with single boosters, weighing them and shit, resealing)
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>>57149132
There are no prerequisites to calling you a faggot, anyone can chime in and do it when they feel like
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>>57149181
Doesn’t hurt to try out a local card shop if you have a good one. The owner of the shop I went to as a kid would order booster boxes for us at good prices.
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>>57149164
Ever since corona poor americans decided that trading cards are an investment, if only they instead chose to educate themselves about real investments and how to manage their own finances. You're competing with fat fucks like the 42 year old with a beard, three children he badmouths daily and a stomach so long he can barely see his toes when he gets up in the morning who thinks that spending 1000 dollars of disposable income a month on trading cards is okay. You're also up against losers who couldn't optimize their way through fourth-grade arithmetic who think that they are The Wolf of Wall Street™ when they buy up 500 booster boxes of a set from 9 years ago and then put them all on the market at the same time for 90 more dollars than they were previously being sold for. Thank God that's what these American geniuses decided to do with the 15k they saved at their construction job last year, flipping children's trading cards. If they're not buying up the booster boxes they're buying up every possible copy of any card with a rarity above uncommon and sending it off to be graded then inflating the price of the card by 45 dollars so that they can make back the price they spent on sending it to PSA and paying them to look at a CHILD'S TOY UNDERNEATH A MICROSCOPE TO SEE IF IT HAS ANY SCRATCHES ON IT
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Do adults even play competitive pokemon tcg?

When I played the one piece tcg ~2 years ago it was mostly like 20s-30s people, is pokemon the same? Game seems like it would be fun but I also dont want to look like a pedophile
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>>57149195
there are lots of children but there are also lots of 28 year old men dressed in costumes with their totally normal looking dumb as bricks girl who would cheat on him in a heartbeat if you were 6 foot tall and handsome
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>>57149195
When I used to go to a lot of MtG drafts around like 2015 I think, I guess that was also Pokemon day, and it was mostly children, both boys and girls, under the age of 18. Most of the adults were the parents, and they were very understandably just hovering around their kids.
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>>57149195
Theres older dudes playing it but i take my nephew to play once a month and i truly do feel out of place. Im 32 and mostly just kids, where as other games the average age is alot older. I remember at one of the worlds, 1st place was a grown ass man and 2nd place was a child, shit is mad awkward.
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>all this gay discord shit just to manipulate wonder picks
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>>57149194
The PSA shit always boggled my mind. How do you trust strangers to fuck with your cards
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>>57149208
>>57149207
>>57149201
ya okay I won't pick up the tcg I dont want to end up on a list
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>>57149209
>he's angry that other people are spending 10 minutes every 2 days to get FA Trainers and Rainbow Pokemon
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>TCG Pocket already made 300+ million dollars in 2+ months in operation
>Physical cards sell so fast they literally can't print enough to meet demand
Kek Pokemon could JUST be a TCG at this point and would still be wildly successful, much les all the other shit.
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>>57149219
what's your point?
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>>57149194
I'm not that guy, but the reason Pokemon cards (and games) specifically went up in price is because that was also when a bunch of Twitch and YouTube streamers (possibly beginning with Logan Paul?) all decided to buy old Pokemon cards and open them.
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>>57149224
That Pokemon is the paypiggiest of paypiggy franchises on the planet
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>>57149227
that is partially true. we live in a time where people are obsessed with turning hobbies into ponzi schemes or investments. No you cant just open the cards for fun anymore, you need to make money off it.
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>>57149228
that seems accurate, yeah
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>>57149236
>that bracket luck
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>>57149148
What purpose does the aero serve here that cannot be fulfilled by something else? Is it actually more useful than originally thought?
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Gyaradossissies......I thought we weren't the worst ex in MI, how are we losing to aerodactyl, celebiCHUDS are laughing at us
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>>57149228
It has been the most lucrative franchise ever created for a while now, yeah.
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>>57149236
where do you check these?
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>>57149244
I don't know if that's why it's here specifically, but Aero EX just fucking rapes Koga/Scolipede. You can also randomly destroy Celebi decks with it.
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I've spent about $100 on the game so far and I regret it so fucking much it's unreal.
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>>57149251
>Jet aircraft livery sales
You bet it's one of those military PR planes
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>>57149257
hope you learned your lesson at least
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>>57149257
im at 600....
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>>57147757
Giving Misty of all characters torpedo tits is a weird choice
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>>57149265
I'm about same and regret nothing
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>>57149244
early aero can kill mewtwo
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>>57149263
Oh for sure. This is the first mobile game I've put money into and I'm going to refrain from playing another one ever again.
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>tfw spent zero dollars on this scam
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aero cucks staryu -> starmie as well
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apologize to Aerodactyl right now
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>>57149281
>I'm going to refrain from playing another one ever again.
That's probably the smartest course of action, but you could also just be f2p. My first game, when I uninstalled I checked how much I had spent and it had been over $500. Didn't even realize it, definitely didn't feel like $500 worth. Took the f2p pill and never looked back.
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just got 2 back to back turn 1 wins because my opponent saw HItmonlee
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>>57147868
Mewtwo is literally the best deck in the game, retard. It has both the consistency and power output that nobody else has. Yes, you lose if the other opponent gets lucky and sacks you, but that's it. You're still playing what's overall the best deck in the game.
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>>57149288
>I checked how much I had spent and it had been over $500. Didn't even realize it
It's scary how it just builds up overtime, microtransactions are the devil.
$10 every couple of weeks, maybe 20 or 30 during a sale, a bit here and there... doesn't feel like you're spending any money but holy shit
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Where's the server with all the people cheating wonder picks I want to join
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>>57149297
Yup. And once you spend one time, it's even easier to say "it's just $20" the second time. It's a slippery slope, but it's one that I'm glad I caught early and have never gone down again. I've never even bought a monthly pass since then.
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>>57149276
filled with water energy
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Spending money is fine, do what you want with your disposable income. Issue is this game gives out free packs, where if you are patient you can easily collect all the pieces for meta decks. Ive spent around 40 and have literally everything expect obscure shit like electross, Kabutops, and no dragonite. Even then, the money spent was me panicking over not getting everything asap for Mythical island which was dumb on my part.
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>>57149286
Someone explain this shit. Aero's ability seems useless. Who the fuck is evolving an important pokemon while in the active slot?
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i just want to mention ive been playing the aero deck for the past 4 days before it was cool ever since someone posted it here
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>>57149309
Aero's purpose is just to be a decent 2 energy attacker that doesn't clog up your pokeballs.
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>>57149312
I've been playing it DAY 1
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>>57149309
it's 80 damage 2 energy ignoring the ability, the ability is useful if you kill their active and they hadnt evolved their bench yet
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>>57149309
Dark decks are kinda crippled by Aero. Also people brick and they try to play with thatever they have in hand, Aero punishes that too.
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>>57149307
>Issue is this game gives out free packs, where if you are patient you can easily collect all the pieces for meta decks.
The thing is, you can play any gacha game as a f2p just fine. Except maybe homoverse games. The only homo game I've played was HSR, but it was too gay for me to be able to play it for very long. I remember it was very stingy though.
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>>57149307
The main "chase" cards are all alternate artworks that don't do anything for you besides look cool, what would be truly scummy is if they were to paywall strong cards in some way. If people wanna dump money trying to chase a higher quality png of Misty or whatever then fine, I'm not gonna get upset about other people being dumb with their money.
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>>57149309
Its rare but it worked for me when fighting melmetal, eggs, and machop
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>>57149309
>Who the fuck is evolving an important pokemon while in the active slot?
Koga decks. Blaine. Celebi with a poor draw. Mewtwo with a poor draw.
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>>57149299
https://discord.gg/d2ghtfD5
and here
>>>/vmg/1634539
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>>57149323
Yeah all full art trainer cards are pay pig bait. When i see whales spend its usually for those.
>>57149321
Hoyoverse games are awful, but pocket allowing f2p people to have a variety of meta decks is more than can be said for most gacha.
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>>57149326
You rule brother thank you
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>>57149299
Go to youtube
Look through your click bait recommendations for a PTCGP video with a chubby asian
Read the video description
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Having 2 marshadow on bench vs Pikachu feels like auto win
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>>57149330
>pocket allowing f2p people to have a variety of meta decks is more than can be said for most gacha
Maybe. I've been fortunate enough though that every gacha I've played longer term has allowed me to have everything that I've wanted for free.
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>>57149338
Only thing they could really do is Sabrina one out then high roll Zapdos
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>Melmetal Mew Druddigon is 5-1-0
Wow you really can put anything behind that guy.
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>>57149329
>a dbz thread
huh?
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>>57149352
Don't worry anon, we've been assured that it's actually not that much better than Kangaskhan
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>>57149352
Yeah I tried that when the new set just came out, but without mew. It was a worse Golem but that mew might actually be fantastic
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>>57149315
>>57149319
Interesting. So it's seen as a nice starmie ex/articuno ex analogue for fighting.

And then the ability is a bonus as >>57149320 >>57149324 >>57149328 mentioned.
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>>57149352
>>57149359
>Golem-lite (GA edition) is bad
>Mew EX is bad
>it's actually Druddigon that is god tier busted
You guys are so fucking stupid it's unreal.
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>>57149360
it's ability is useful because it makes hitmonlee or other bench attackers do -20 damage whereas golem only works if it attacks
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>>57149365
I said a week ago that it would be fine as a shittier Starmie equivalent, the numbers just work
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>>57149367
I'm merely taking every opportunity to irritate you
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>>57149352
Playing Melmetal in the new meta I've noticed I give up on the early game most of the time now and just tank while waiting to set up Melmetal on the bench, which is pretty normal but in the previous meta I had more moments where I would actually fight out the early game with Mawile or Pawniard/Bisharp. So I'm not surprised the dominant strat is to just tank with Mew/Drudd instead. Still a kind of fun deck to play though, more fun decision making for me than other meta decks.
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im still not even at 5 wins, already bored of this game :/
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Can't wait for Melmetal to become meta if the new set is Johto and has Jasmine Steel support of some kind
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Articuno/Greninja is SO retardedly strong fuck off
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I've won so many games by bluffing Giovanni / Sabrina. People concede out of pride.
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>>57149394
>Jasmine supporter
>Metal coat item
>Scizor
>Scizor EX
>Steelix
>Steelix EX
>Skarmory
>Skarmory EX
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>>57149384
>I'm saying retarded things on purpose
>(haha I am only pretending to be retared)
>and someone is agreeing with me
>(or I'm samefagging)
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Why do people keep running Articuno OTK when Celebi is just a much better roller that doesn't rely on Misty?=
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>still no one running blastoise
damn is it really that ass? i expected that it would be mildly alright with vaporeon and mew not being able to copy.
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>>57149415
Articuno only has to flip coins once instead of literally every turn
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There is some drama going down in the Korean wonder pick abuse group. Something about someone leaking a friend code outside the group and getting banned for it or something so he's taking revenge by both posting all of them in the English speaking servers, and also posting fake ones there too to get the people he's mad at spammed with friend requests.
>tfw you've eaten enough for a rare pack and are alpha for frying
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>>57149428
Kek just stop cheating faggots
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>>57149425
Articuno might not get to flip coins and just tank until it gathers 3 energy in which case that person has already lost
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>>57149436
Yeah, but the point isn't to play a competent deck. It's to sometimes get lucky on turn 1 and win instantly, or hope they brick and your guaranteed Articuno can sweep before they recover. Celebi decks do actually have to play the game properly.
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2 aero decks are 7-0 so far
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>>57147078
nigga that's a Pikachu ex deck
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>>57149441
What deck are they using?
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>>57149446
1 with farfetched another with primeape
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>>57149419
Gyarados is the same health and either -20 damage for -1 energy or +40 damage for +1 energy
while needing 1 less card to come online.
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>Moltres deck goes second
>Rolls 2 heads
>In turn 2 they are 3 energy ahead of player one
xDDD
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>>57149167
>invalid/expired
Fresh link?
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Damn the japs are good cookers, first it was the Charizard arcanine bros that single handedly saved arcanine exs reputation, now this lad is doing well in ursii with aero ex, pretty clean looking
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>>57149459
how do you know a jap made this
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>>57149451
Damn blastoise may have 0 future then.
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>>57149461
Look at that Hitmonlee's eyes.
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>>57149167
>>57149153
>>57149146
chinese server???
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>>57149453
>>57149459
How doesn't this immediately fall apart against a single sabrina
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>>57149461
On limitless it shows which country the entry is from
I made the post before I saw the second guy tho, theres an Italian guy with the exact same list
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>>57149480
Low energy costs so you can retreat with impunity. It's the same reason Blaine decks worked.
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>>57149480
why would sabrina cause it to fallapart
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>>57149486
there were people who posted this here yesterday or a couple days ago
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>>57149480
Because they're all 1 energy reatreat cost mons 0 retreat cost for Amber if you need it with 1-2 energy to attack. They Sabrina your duck? Fine, just put an energy on Hitmonlee and start kicking or switch back to Farfetch'd. Also two X-Speeds.
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>>57149461
>>57149486


>>57145718
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>>57149459
If this were to go against a mewtwo deck that on turn one pulls Ralts in the back and Mewtwo in the front, would it be better to go for the Ralts first with Hitmonlee or Mewtwo with Farfetch'd?
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>>57149459
>>57149498
lmao same deck card for card
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>>57149502
farfetched on mewtwo
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>>57149428
Where are the other language WP abuse groups?
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Is it to late to start friends?
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>>57149419
I did a couple matches as Blastoise last night.
Gameplay is very similar to gyarados but without worrying about Greninja. You can fit potions or blues or giovannis or whatever else.
It's legitimately NOT BAD because you always can swing on curve against faster decks and you're not vulnerable to bench snipes. You also have a pretty good shot against Celebi because they'll go down to 110 KOing drud, and you can swing with just 3 energy + Gio if you like- where as Gyarados wouldn't be ready yet.
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>>57149502
once you get 2 farfetched hits on the mewtwo no matter how many potions or blues he has that mewtwo is vulnerable to KO by marshadow
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>>57149525
As long as you don't care about not being able to complete the current sets or build meta decks until the next big release, no, you're good
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https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1735345044830329.png
A1-154 A1-154 A1-198 A1-198 A1-270
A1-270 A1-272 A1-272 P-A-07 P-A-07
P-A-05 P-A-05 P-A-02 P-A-02 A1a-63
A1a-63 A1a-74 A1a-74 A1a-84 A1a-84
https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1735428825658029.png
A1-154 A1-154 A1-198 A1-198 A1-223
A1-223 A1-225 A1-225 P-A-07 P-A-07
P-A-05 P-A-05 P-A-02 P-A-02 A1a-63
A1a-63 A1a-46 A1a-46 A1a-47 A1a-47

>>57149503
I see 8 cards different.
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>>57149502
Depends, but if you want a simple anser then go for the Mewtwo because it's more safe.

Ralts can be good to aim for if it's their only one on the bench because if they evolve it you can still get two leak slaps on the Mewtwo before it kills Farfetch'd which puts it into Marshadow range. But if they went second, and have Gio, or have Gardevoir, then they still KO your Farfetch'd before it gets a second hit off. But if you have your own Gio then you only need the one Leak slap anyway.
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>>57149532
one is the poorfag version
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>>57149532
>going this far out of your way to be an autistic shitposting retard
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>>57149532
>full arts are different cards
I understand what motivates some of the whales now
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>>57149532
rainbow aero mogs regular ex one so badly
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>>57149525
You can still reroll for either the Pikachu EX, Mewtwo EX, or Celebi EX decks. Like any other gacha, the best time to start was day 1, and the 2nd best time to start is right now.
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>>57149532
How can you tell whether he's using Old Amber A1-218 or Old Amber A1a-63?
I need the accurate decklist before I give it a try.
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>>57149535
I'm sure sure which version you're referring to. I've had an easier time picking 1/2-star cards than pulling 3/4-diamond cards.

>>57149542
Easily my favorite full art.
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>>57149542
When does the rainbow ever not do that to the ugly 3d?
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>>57149527
>>57149419
I should add- I think Vaporeon is bait, still.
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>>57149546
They're the same card. If Card Dex is toggled on in My Cards the game will tell you which pack you've obtained at least one from but if it's toggled off Old Amber only appears in the Mythical Island section.
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Does Gio affect Hitmonlee or no cause it's hitting the backline?
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>>57149564
>If Card Dex is toggled on in My Cards the game will tell you which pack you've obtained at least one from
Yes and it will tell you which pack you're missing that card from. Because they're different cards, and knowing which one is the right one to use in your deck is the difference between a tier 1 meta threat and a tier 15 shitdeck.
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>>57149573
gio doesnt work since it only works on active
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>>57149419
>>57149555
>>57149527
Deck list that was going like 50%. Honestly not sure if there’s a need for 2Leaf+xSpeed but it feels good to be able to xspeed squirt to safety and still play Oak or Misty for momentum
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>>57149544
What should I know before I reroll. I'll probably end up making the Pikachu deck because it looks good
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>>57149583
Reroll if you don't get two pikachu ex, otherwise keep it cause you get electric cards for free from the event
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>>57149583
Iirc, the first pack is rigged and the 2nd pack must be Mewtwo. Then you just reroll like normal (all the Pikachu cards come from Pikachu). You need 2 Pikachu EX, 2 Zapdos EX, and ideally you also want 2 Raichu. Good luck.
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>>57149525
Yeah probably lol. will take you at least a week to get a deck up and running.
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>>57149576
Anon, if you're in the deck builder there is only one button you can click on and it's in the sorted position for Mythical Island. Even if you applying a search filter to only look at Genetic Apex cards it will be sorted in that position.
The only way you could possibly differentiate them is if all your copies from one pack were in one language and all your copies from the other were in another.
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>>57149583
Stop when it starts trying to make you do the battle tutorials. Just get the free starter hourglasses, and spend them on packs which will level you up which will get you more hourglasses for more packs which will level you up which will get you more hourglasses.

Also the first pack you choose when you start a new account is rigged and will give you a specific EX pokemon. Marowak from the Mewtwo pack, Arcanine from the Pikachu pack, and Exeggutor from the Charizard pack.
Exeggutor is the most competent in a vacuum while Arcanine is the best but requires you to also get 2 Moltres EX to be good.
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>>57149597
>Iirc, the first pack is rigged
Yup. You get Exeggutor ex, Marowak ex, or Arcanine ex (and FA Charmander, FA Bulbasaur, or FA Squirtle) if your first pack is Charizard, Mewtwo, or Pikachu packs, respectively.
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>>57148553
The ultimate combo is dex + slab + oak.
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>>57149453
>>57149459
You get so cucked if the only basic you draw at first is Hitmonlee and the oponent doesn't set anything in the back
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>>57149629
ive played like 200 games with this deck and that's not a problem, worse is starting with only marshadow
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>>57149452
Why cant they just let turn 1 get energy.
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>>57149641
Because then it's just as unbalanced lol
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>>57149646
>>57149641
Going first should add a pokedex to your hand. Just knowing what you have coming / having a free "do I Oak first or Pokeball first" / "do I wait until next turn to pokeball" is much smaller of an advantage than an energy but gives you something to do.
An alternative is the player who goes first gets 1 basic Energy added to their hand on turn 5 or something?
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>>57149641
I don't understand it either. The main tcg just makes it so you're not allowed to attack if you go first with no restriction on energy. I don't get why they made it this way. Like they deliberately wanted people to be able to turn 1 win with Misty I guess.
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Player 1 should get half an energy on turn 1.
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>>57149661
Player 2 should get two turns on turn 2.
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>>57149453
>>57149459
The simple act of pulling Farfetch'd, Marshadow and 1 Gio completly owns Mewtwo lmao
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>>57149453
What does Aero actually do here? Is he just kind of a beater?
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>>57149661
an energy is an energy you cant just say its a half
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>>57149684
Yeah 80 damage for 2 energy is great plus it really fucks some decks
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This discussion is not needed, just make it so existing cards have an option with one energy. If machoke had a 20-30 damage attack he could do for 1 energy and machamp had one he could do for 2 energy, shit would be perfectly fine.
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Looks like Mewtwo is just a dogshit meme deck like Celery.
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>>57149698
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
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>>57149698
I mean being able to evolve on 3 and still swing is kind of certain card's entire identity (Weez, old Rapidash, zebra), so you'd almost want to give them second attacks to- but then they'd probably be TOO good
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>>57149698
>discussion is not needed
Correct. The game is unbalanced on purpose. That's how it's "balanced". Going first is dogshit and that's an intentional game design feature.
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I'm on an 8 game winning streak with the Aero deck someone posted above, shit's so tightly built
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literally the best pack I ever opened lol
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw an EX as the 4th card
such is the f2p life
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>>57149714
cramorant is so based...
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>>57149713
It's great but getting Marshadow alone on the first draw and no x-speed feels awful
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>>57149706
Cards with a lower energy option tend to be weaker than cards that have 1 energy attacks only. Weezing has a absurd 1 energy attack with poison as an ability. Meanwhile blastoise has a 2 energy move that does a mere 40. Its better than nothing, but is weaker than existing 1 energy attacks
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I feel like Aero EX isn't strong enough to be an EX but what do I know
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>>57149746
Eh, 10 more HP but 10 less damage than Starmie. Not a good tradeoff but whatever.
The idea with the decks using him is that he won't show up in your Pokeballs or as your only basic so you're pretty much only ever going to be sending him out after they already KO'd 2 non-EXs at which point it doesn't matter that he's EX.
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>>57149761
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>>57149286
I understand Aero for the most part, but why Farfetched? Mankey line, Marshadow, and Hitmonlee are great
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>>57149818
Primeape deals 50 but needs to evolve. Farfetch'd does a guaranteed 40. Shrimple as that.
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>>57149658
Making a restriction on attacking would be too difficult for them.



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