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hey guys can i get an uuuuu
Trying to watch Gigi's stream with this dread in the back of my mind is not fun.
drama drama drama, sweet dramapls gib qrd
It's cancer
>>90553063Lmao. Fuck unicorns. We won.
More to come...
STOP SPAMMING!Chloe graduated too and nobody cares, btw
Were there signs? I dont watch Fauna
>>90553144You're a big guy.
44 minutes until suicide
Raora had no idea btw. She just found out. What the fuck?
>>90553350it still fresh and everybody got over itit literally JUST happened
he cant keep getting away with this
I can't take it anymore...
>>90553063Fuck this gay earth I don’t want to watch indies
>>90553063I cant wait to laugh at (You) when mommy announced new merchandises for sale in 41 more minutes.
>>90553464It's all theatrics. They want you to think it's a graduation but it's not.
At this point it seems the only way for EN girls to stay is to move to Japan and fully integrate themselves into the bone-dusting grind that real life idols have done since the early 2000s and basically just live at the studio and sleep on the floor.
>>90553407Her biggest schizo was spamming the catalog for weeks about the red flags and everyone ignored him lol
>Mumei is so busy and seems to constantly be tired having to juggle real life and Hololive>Kronii and management DO NOT get along>Gura is literally not streaming for long periods of time>The one that LOVES her fucking job is graduating
The purple newsman is live and is going to be watching it live
>>90553625yeah no shit
>>90553499don't baitpost with my oshi, faggot
>>90553646The rest of them will be gone soon too.
>>90553464If it's actually Fauna leaving I'd imagine they knew that much in advance but didn't know the announcement was happening tonight. Then again, you'd think they'd have at least a little more warning than that if it was Fauna leaving? So it arguably increases the chances that it's not the worst possible scenario.
>>90544936The cut of chat money. Hololive is doing more advertising endeavors and trying to attract the US audience with things like the Dodgers Hololive night, and profits have been down since the COVID bubble popped. Therefore cover is trying to make up for it by taking a larger cut of chat money in contract negotiations, and it's just that Fauna and Chloe's just happened to be done with their contract negotiation deadlines at the same time and indie's looking a lot better due to Doki and Kson.
I can't wait for doomposters to get BTFO...if not then screencap this post
>>90553789> our oshi
What even is the average retention rate of a corp to vtuber
>>90553625Ah, "the schizo crying graduation". What a classic tale.
>>90553063Oh nyo~
>>90553790I’ll kill you
>>90553646She's graduating because she loves herself, unlike those three.
uuuuuu
>>90553063Who cares.NOTMYFRIEND
>>90553646Yeah I never understood why exactly mumei never streams since she seems to actually like playing games but what's the kronii anti management rat?
>>90553839You didn’t have to add Kson in there. Doki and Dooby have probably shown the way for the latest batch of malcontents.
what the fuck is going on
it's the first time someone i actually watched graduatesfeels bad man
>>90554113And Dooby, don't know how I forgot her. But regardless Kson really started the whole thing off that you can be a profitable vtuber post-COVID without hololive
>>90553646You mean she loves streaming.
>>905530632 graduations in such a short period must mean more are on the way. They usually space these things out.
>>90553917The graduations will continue until morale improves.
Remember all the ENs telling you it will be ok? Yeah... It wasn't about Chloe, the big EN purge is about to happen
A bit surprised it's fauna leaving i was expecting mumei or kronii first especially considering the friendship between mumei and doki irl and how often kronii is frustrated with the company
It's so fucking over.Hololive is actually, unironically dead.And the funny part? They did a good job with the psyop. They made us all accept this garbage "affiliate" system.If it isn't a graduation, it doesn't matter. The damage is done, we're all broken and just expect the worst now.
>>90553839>kson>betterLmao
>>90553646I honestly think Moom just decided to give herself a massive workload for civilization duties this semester because Holofes is going to fuck her for spring semester and that's the main reason why she's been off the grid outside of special collabs lately.
>>90554288You can... After getting into hololive and then ditching it, I e been saying time and time again cover has to do something to not be home a pump and dump, people will only join to boost their careers and then gtfo
>>90554431upvoted
>>90553063mid voice, mid streams, mid humor, mid model,treated like top tierfuck outta here
Is this the seventh trumpet?
>>90553063I have to go, but I really hope all this suffering isn't for nothing
Korone moved her stream start time 10 minutes back, yeah it's 100% over
Shut up and keep buying the merch and defending the brand
How many more graduations can they cram in before the end of the year?
>>90554108Management just seems to fuck Kronii over a lot. One I remember is the Hololive English twitter account prioritizing the Holostars over her new soldier outfit and cover of an AoT opening. Kinda ironic when you think about it with her.But its happened enough times to know they're not getting along.
>>90553433for uuuuu
>>90554315I say bring them all out, rip the band aid in one go and let the ones who want to work in hololive stay, I don't blame the ones who leave but I for one don't want lazy people thinking their fanbases are just walking atms
What are the chances she's just yanking our chain and it's just an announcement regarding the Broken Promise musical?
But the world tree….
All these people who wish graduation on Kronii and saying she is gonna be the first to leave council and then promise just to see their oshis drop like flies makes me extremely happy. You all can eat a fat dick. I'm gonna relish in every moment of this
It’ll be so funny when she doesn’t graduate she probably will but it would be funny if she doesn’t
*sigh* What did Niji do this time?
Other than the obvious answer of Gura, who else is on the chopping block?
No more Fauna art...
>>90554687Why would she be so active on her PL then?
>shitpost take: Fauna is graduating>Rrat take: Fauna is getting married>Doom take: Fauna has cancer
>>90553407Sort of? She never did the idol stuff, and kinda replaced Bae with Gigi, so it feels like the Japan/not Japan sides of EN had a growing rift.
Hope you're all looking forward to her being in those mixed events Doki puts together, or the inevitable Vshojo collabs. If Hololive is good for anything, it's preventing stuff like that
>>90554712It's going to be a cold winter sapling.
>>90554496Just FYI I do not want her to graduate. I just figured if you forced me at gunpoint to tell you who would graduate, Fauna was not even in that pool, you know?
>>90554593ImagineCorporate would chew her out so fucking hard if this was just a joke she actually would leave
>>90554496I'm surprised she still does school considering how big holo checks are and even if she left she knows she'd succeed as an indie at this point I guess she really wants to do her irk work
>>90554687Cover would never allow that and Fauna would never do that. This is 100% a graduation
Mommy will be gone but she will still send you videos of her new 'work'.
>>90553063delusion, it's probably a merch or concert announcement
I love Fauna....
>>90554753Honestly, no one. Minus Gura, that's your HoloEN lineup for the foreseeable future.
sixth trumpet
I hate Fauna
>>90554770It didn't stop Rushia nor ame fan art
Unironically the end of Hololive in the West. Vshojo is the new face of EN vtubing.
>>90554800No one is looking forward to any of that slop. In record time, all discussion about Dooby dried up. Nobody here even watches the other holomems who went indie.
Suicide tonight for me....
>>90554858It would be really funny if she did this graduation bait joke and got terminated for it.
Will she cry when she finally says it? And if so how hard will it make you?
>>90554315Mumei and Gura will take February and March probably. Then they'll all go and form a new group of indie friends together.
>>90554749Besf beegsmol imo
>>90554770There's still new Sana fan art.
HOLD ME NOWI'M SIX FEET FROM THE EDGE AND I'M THINKIN
>>90554800>being in those mixed events Doki puts togetherShe didn't leave Hololive just to roll around in the mud with homostars. Maybe Doki should fucking ditch those leeches.
>>90553063But... I've just became a Sapling this year!!!! UUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!! FAUNAAAAAA!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!
>>90555030she will fake cry yeah
Come home, White man.
>>90554687They wouldn't have involved the other members if that was the case.
>>90554795I have never seen the "X has cancer" take more than here. Why do you all think she has cancer so much?
>>90554982>he thinks Fauna leaving is what's gonna break the camels backLolLmao even
>no asmr for 10 months>dies
>>90554753Ina. And I don't blame her for being done with it after the latest stuff management pulled, but she's seemed kind of out of it before that too.
>>90554753Mumei, kronii, ina, kronii The only ones I don't ever see leaving EN are Kiara, mori, and bae
>>90554917When Gura graduates, the entire site will break.
>>90554996>all discussion about Dooby dried upYeah, because she didn't stream for 2 weeks and baiting collabs as a shitpost only works before they happen.
>>90555030She’s gonna say the n-word?!
>>90554947>>90555059It's nowhere near the same frequency though
>>90554521If the long-term trend is that for every five talents they recruit four of them stay for the long haul and make a lot of money for Cover while one ditches to go indie after a few years that's probably something Cover is fine with, especially since there could be problems with making it harder to leave or having recruitment try harder to filter out people who might bail after a year or three.
30 minutes until judgment
>>90555171Anon the Hololive roster is starting to look like swiss cheese and you're here coping.
>>90554875Why do you retards always do this? If it were a fun announcement she'd say so.
>>90554795>Doom takeI think I would actually want the graduation more, having someone I watch infrequently and my friend oshis die while still employed at Cover would be the most heartbreaking fucking thing ever.
Reminder if this wasn’t a graduation, she would’ve said so by now. She wouldn’t let everyone needlessly suffer.
>>90553063I don't care about Fauna, but why do vtubers have the urge to scare their fans when they do announcements this way during "hard times" even if they aren't graduations? Fucking assholes, they lose my respect the moment they do it.
>>90554521Cover's responsibilities are the same as they've always been. Once someone joins they get fame and can carry that with them once they leave. Their job is to have Hololive be better than the alternative. The alternative being their former indie life, which will now be greatly enhanced with their newfound fame. People leaving is a sign they're not upholding their end of the bargain.
>>90554753Gura is going to sit and collect checks for doing nothing until they stop coming. If she was leaving she’d have left after her friend Ame left.
>>90555376oh no what will they do without some random dipshits precious respect
>>90555160They aren't. Fauna's descirption just has all of Promise always and so they get automatically added due to the script they use.
>>90554713But anon, I love Promise. I want them to be a unit.
Why do people give a shit about corporate graduations when they always just go back to their PL or start anew? Seems silly to cry about it when we all know she's gonna keep streaming again but with the freedom to do it however she wants
>>90554753ShioriShe just doesn't fit at all. There is nowhere for the content she wants to do and she's not good enough at the things Cover deems to be important.
>>90555376Because like it or not they're still content creators operating in the attention economy and negative emotions drive engagement. You were always just a number to them.
i mcfucking swear to GOD if we lose one more hot big titty woman after this i'm gonna FLIPif it's marine it'll be off a building
Honestly, reading /vt/ is kinda boring since everyone is accepting the innevitable future. In the meantime, twitter is fighting about whether Cover is a black company or the talents have "run their course" and this is just completely natural and fine.
>>90555362This is the most damning thing really. She didn't even want cover to announce her COVID because she didn't want people freaking over the white background.She can see her stream numbers, she knows.
>>90554897I don't even think Gura's leaving any time soon- if she was she'd probably have already pulled the trigger on it before even Ame did.
>>90555414She has a big 3D live coming (someday)
are saplings moving over to the next green woman when fauna leaves? or are you all finally gone for good?
>>90553063Shes the bad kind of Vegetarian, her body probably finally hit its limit and shes gotten really sick and has to change her lifestyle now to avoid it getting worse
>>90554996It's because hololive stopped astroturfing for her because they aren't getting anything from her as an indie
Why the fuck do you people keep saying Ina is a likely candidate for graduating? What is possessing you to say that? Nothing even remotely hints at that. Cover fucked up her visa is not a strong enough reason for her to stop doing what she's doing.
Is she resuming meat-eating?>>90555163The dox on her pics make her look sickly, but that's actually because she's vegan
REALLY FAUNAGRADUATING DURING TEXAS VS TEXAS A&M
>>90555493they just hate hololive
>>90555459>>90555519I already know that Fauna is a dipshit, thanks.
>>90555493The fanbase community, the model, the character, the familiarity and consistency, the collabs and friendships…
>>90553407Her PL been posting some videos recently
>>90553063So who is next after Fauna? Make your bets.I would shoot Kroni
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1863007407946776772
This isn't the last one of the year.There is one more.
>>90555496Motherfucker, she was going for it at Breaking Dimensions. She was up front and clearly volunteered and loved it. Why the fuck?
>>90555584>he doesn't know
>>90555649wait there's fauna face leaks? pls share, never saw them
HOLY FUCKING BASEDMORI, BAE, AND ALL OF JUSTICE EXCEPT CC NEXT PLEASE
>AffiliateLet's call it soft graduation from now on. It'll help us delude ourselves less.
>graduation queue was real>but in Cover
>>90554753Mumei's PL hinted at being more active in 2025.Unironically, Doki interacting with Mumei and not her PL would probably be the only foolproof sign that she staying for good.
This one is really gonna affect me. The most consequential grad since Coco.
>>90555749lmao grifting bitch
I think Cover is using Biboo's move to Japan as a sort of "loyalty test" to see how far other talents are willing to go to maintain their positions without being strangled by negotiations. They probably write in a lot of convenience for people who live in Japan in the contracts just to push the rest out. That way they don't have to pay for monthly plane trips and hotel expenses. Cut costs = Increase Profits
>>90554946I love FaunaI'll love NotFauna
>>90555339Not coping. Just stating the fact that it's going to take someone other then her leaving to completely kill Hololive because Fauna isn't one of those people.
>>90555559Twitter has less sense than this place?Grim but honestly not surprising
>>90553916even if cover is on a downward slope nijien is falling apart way earlier lol, corpo vtubing is leaving the spotlight
>>90555171>gura's favorite EN, whom she enjoys to the point of admitting to watching her streams DURING myth collabs is leaving holodomino effect
>>90553063>Have good thing>Ruin it by trying to force the toxic idol lifestyle on variety streamers
>>90554996So we just ignoring that Dooby's Thanksgiving stream was positively received here or?
>>90555493twitch indie community is full of self-centered loud lowlifes who demand attention and surely will force their way in as new "friends" suddenly. it fucking sucks for collab partners vs hololive.
>>90554946Based. She's a piece of shit.
>>90555654Not like this...
I'm just over here hoping it is not a graduation and the backlash she could receive.
>>90554258she's posting on her PL again so she'll be back soonhttps://www.youtube.com/@lemonleaf8163
I cant believe the first passenger on the dooby express is going to be NotFauna.
>All talents who aren't into singing, dancing and voice acting are leaving en masseI guess hololive is going full idol agency now
>>90555462I always wondered about that. She's aware she does that, right?
>>90554108Management has kinda fucked Kronii & Ina over with models. Management has ghosted Kronii multiple times and basically just left her waiting regarding a lot of points for approval or projects. Management has kinda sidelined promoting and highlighting her new projects and stuff in favor of other talent. Management has kinda shoved tried to nudge Kronii to change her persona a bit and change how she presents herself to her audience. There's some other stuff out there. None of this is like a nuclear dealbreaker but its a lot of stress on the business relationship. She's basically at the bottom of the pecking order in terms of who gets the good graces of management it seems like.
>>90555997twitch whores are the worst.
>>90555817Pretty sure it's on both.Covid ended and Normies are leaving Vtubing to do other normies stuff.
>>90555751Well yeah, there's still a month left till 2024 ends...
>>90556018this sound poetic ngl
>>90555622I mean she did sound pretty pissed about it in the first stream back, even with all that restraint you can tell was there. I've never had a work visa before, so I can't speak much on that angle, but I've been in situations in-career where you count on a team member to file something, they don't, and it fucks you sideways for the rest of the week, maybe month, it's beyond aggrevating and potentially job-separating if it happens hard enough or frequent enough.
I’m sorry, Saplings. But one of you was mean to me when I posted in your general for the first time. For this, you must pay.
>>90554394kronii is posting on her PL again apparently, I wouldn't be surprised if her and mumei are next
>>90556047Always was an idol agency.
>>90555815Everyone knows what it is. It's a graduation in all but name because Cover wants to avoid calling them graduations.
clover moving more into idol work. So with Fauna who can't sing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QFixnJw_uQ&ab_channel=CeresFaunaCh.hololive-EN) and is only interested in streaming. Is bowing out without having a bad fall out with the company.I pray for the saplings who are on An hero watch
And with that, the EN girls have more graduations than the boys.
Graduation queue?
Don't worry guys. A Holomeme wouldn't graduate.
>>90553063I'm so fucking tired of this hobby, I feel like killing myself more than ever
>>90555551I feel like Marine belongs in the "if she was going to leave for any reason other than 'I secured the bag and am retiring' she'd have done it already" column. And I'm guessing she's burned too much money on those music videos to have enough money just yet.
FauMei MV where?Promise Musical where?
>>90556142>all of the former council members leave>irys is alone again
How will chumbuds react when Gura's graduation is announced on Christmas? She's not even sure if she'll stream or let someone post it on twitter
>>90554770Shame, but at least we got some great shit while it lasted.
I blame Gigi and League of Legends.
>>90556047IRyS is safe then…
>>90556047Aqua was into it
Thanks for ruining my sunday bitch
>>90555559twitter was coping hard over the chloe graduation so I'm not surprised if they're doing the same here, you don't get this many graduations this fast without something going wrong
>>90555279God I'm gonna miss art like this dying down in frequency
>>90556047if you look at how some of the new dev_is girls are literally ex-idols and most of the gen came out swinging knowing exactly how this all works, yeah that does seem to be cover's direction. trouble is that whole idol industry thing doesn't fucking exist in the west. at all. so there's no point to try to force western girls through those hoops. but it seems that's what they're doing.
>>90555414Massive Cope.
Wasn't pre-debut Fauna a snake who left all her friends when she got into Hololive?Once a snake always a snake I suppose.
>>90555848>Twitter has less sense than this place?Always did
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD
I find it funny that this is the first time the #monkeys aren't shitposting and are instead acting all sad.Some of them even stopped using the thread
>>90553350English board will unfortunately be very biased towards EN
>>90553063Wow mass graduation. Holofags deserved
>>90555493Gee, anon. People like the character? And who she interacts with? There is no guarantee, ever, that the PL will remain the same. if you are INTO that, that's fine, but Fauna remained Fauna and didn't break the constraints. There's a stability to that.I sure as fuck didn't expect Kson to go off the trajectory of why I liked her THAT hard and now I guess I don't watch her anymore. Sometimes you luck out and you end up with Ame and Aqua still remaining the same but the fact is the guarantee is not there.
>>90556269Honestly? Relief
>>90556269mass suicides
>2020~2023: hololive golden age>2024: The Fall of Hololive and Dark Age>Crowned by the loss of the golden child of Fauna
>>905534335ulearn to count dummy
Is Hololive trying to take Niji's crown of most graduations
With Fauna graduating I'm only here for Biboo, Gigi and CC now. They don't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon at least.
Ennacuck won
Saplings were always the normalfag fanbase so this is actually a good thing.
>>90555955but enough about the the turd your mother took and created you
>>90556436Didn't Saplings really want ASMR?I'm pretty sure that Cover was the one preventing that due to how YT is going after ASMRtists
20 minutes until judgment
>>90556510fuwamoco will always remain
>>90556348they got into Niji though, they're the real snakes
>>90556407That explains why it's so active outside the thread.
She should graduate and collab with doob as an indie
>>90556507They might already have more per capita this year
>Goodnight, Please don't forget me....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Y9CnlglwYThey forgot.
>>90553063It's so fucking over lmaooo
>>90555493As a teamate. You might think it's the same, but it isn't. Hololive's environment does a lot more than you realize but it is definitely noticeable once it's lost. I've come to realize I was a fan of Amelia Watson, not the person voicing the character.
>>90556097>and Normies are leaving VtubingLOL no vtubing is still going great it's just that corpos are slowly dying.
>>90556545ASMR saplings left long ago. STEM-pilled gamer saplings are all that remain.
There’s an empty spot in the Lamy Council. Who’s going to fill it?
Why do they not have graduation quota like Niji. Too many people leaving too soon.
the thing about "There can only be 1 green member" was true
>>90556529she definitely btfo'd fauna behind the scenes
>>90556190at least it's indicating to us what this "new direction" graduating girls keep referring to is, we definitely have enough a sample size to see a pattern now in that it's girls who can't sing or dance or both.
Life.. dreams.. hope.. where do they come from, and where do they go?
>>90553063Goodbye Poison Ivy ass bitch!
>>90556507we're going to MOG any possible NijiEN graduation with this one bros, I can feel it
>>90556764These things...Im going to destroy!
>>90556510Same, except it's Biboo and CC for me.
>>90553063WHORE
>>90556724Kill yourself
>>90555496Shiori is the ENs management darling. They would sacrifice their biggest holo to keep Shiori. Don't ask me why, I have no idea, but it's blatant.
>>90556724I really hate how this interracial meme has taken off. Why are you white niggers into this shit?
>>90556681Is that so? So which not corpo vtubing are close to corpo vtubing numbers?
>>90555414this.>>90556336her returning as senzawa would be a good thing for gura fans if anything, that way they get to see her stream again. She's super lazy and was as an indie prior so I think it's kind of realistic for her to just sit on holo checks until it runs dry
She cannot leave in the middle of the a LA Noire playthrough
>>90553407yes. she's reactivated her LemonLeaf accounts. it's fucking over.
FUCK YOU COVER
I swear to God if she graduates just to do fucking ASMR for limpdicked retards i'm gonna be so fucking pissed. I really enjoy her content ans her doing the dungeon streams and shit. I don't want to find her PL and the dozen of "lick carpets for your amusement shit". Goddamn i hate coomers so much. I checked her PL and its all ASMR..i hate you fuckers so much. I have 0 interest in that kind of content and i feel like everybody is just gaslighting others into thinking that "its not fetish material..pinkie promise, honestlyyy!"
>>90555279That swimsuit looks so good on her.
did anyone save the member's brap ASMR?
>>90555279>>90556926is this blacked shitkill yourselves too
tweet deleted btw
>>90556926>looksLooked*She wont wear it again if shes leaving!
>>90555493they just prefer vtubers kind of playing a character, although fauna has been breaking away from her character a lot recently so I don't think much of anything will be lost moving to indie, same with the other likely graduations in kronii and mumei desu
>>90556907ACtual graduation could be months out you know
so is Shiori going to pony up and work on her singing? Has she talked about working on that?
>>90556869Trannies love it for some reason and another group that loves to push demoralization...
>>90556874She's not going to come back as Senzawa. Gura will rebrand her self hinted with "&".
>>90556331>there's no point to try to force western girls through those hoopsBreaking Dimensions essentially sold out in seconds based on the massive ticket queue and there were a lot of upset fans who wanted to go, so Cover knows exactly what it's doing. It may not be as massiveas JP, but the western idol sphere is becoming an increasingly profitable niche. Note that there's also a lot of big group events now with merch attached to it.
>>90556921her ASMR was never even that good anyways, lets be real. she's throwing away an opportunity of a lifetime for nothing.
>>90557011It's not you retard.
>>90556300Aqua just wanted to retire. She said as much on her Sakuna debut and that she didn't expected to blow up so much
>>90556510Biboo has another year most likely before she can safely go indie.
fuck I gotta go make dinner when her stream is starting. I'll miss all the live doomposting and the metaphorical burning of her minecraft tree
>>90556907They always stream a lot before the final day.
I'm gonna throw up...
>>90553063IS MOMMY LEAVING???MOMMY???
Hey guys the is Fauna. I'm pregnant.
>>90556724Time to flip my little sapling branch.
>>90556868They managed to land one of the OGs of EN vtubing. They're not gonna let that go.
>>90557112Her singing is perfectShut your whore mouth
THE SUSPENSE
>>90556874>that way they get to see her stream againShe didn't stream that much as Senzawa either
You shouldn't have deleted her files
>>90555171Fauna's clearly just the beginning. The writing's on the wall for Gura, Mumei, Ina...
>>90556869personally i really don't get why it's suddenly become popular on iwara, are the mmdfags that desperate for the affections of those degenerates?
>>90556921>>90557146cope. I love that shit.
>>90556921did you only look at her asmr channel and not her main channel
>>90556827Why watch, when they will only get concluded? Why cling to chuubas, knowing they will have to graduate? The whole coporation is going bye-bye, you included!
>>90557112My wife is trying her best you ape nigger
>>90557184Biboo just committed to uprooting herself and moving to Japan, we've got a few years of her at least if all goes well.
>>90557112She loves vocaloid, she's idol-journey-pilled.
>>90556921This.At least Ame's reincarnation is basically just Ame 2.0 with a tail.Fauna's other account has a shit design and is nothing but ASMR garbage.
15 minutes until judgement
If you like idolshit you are killing vtubing.
>>90556868if EN management has any actual history with EN vtubing they would recognize her for years and respect her for being a legit OG and so it's probably at least partially personal. EN never had a four kings era but I guess her being one of the only existing, even somewhat-relevant english speakers back in the pre-covid /jp/ days would make them very sentimental and proud to have her. it would be like if holoJP got one of the original four kings, they would go through hell and back to keep her happy and on board.
>>90557146fag
>>90557239I don't give a shit. She can get/have a whole family for all o care, just stay and do the content you have done lately and not coomer bait shit.
>>90557354That's the Japanese for some fucking reason loving NTR and experimenting. I will never understand it.
>>90557404>fauna with nothing but asmrLink
>>90557274>Shut your whore mouthAfter Shiori :)
>>90556874Gura is the one person who joined to become Hatsune Miku, not to stream
>>90556921gooners > unicornsYou just want to control her and not let her be herself or what she wants to do.You have this image of what you want her to be and it doesn't matter if she's happy or if it's something she wants to do.This is why I just don't get you guys, you don't actually care for the girls, you just care for this image you have of the girls, and if they do anything outside of that perfect idol image you disown them and hate them.
no sticky?
>>90557336not at all, I followed her since years before she was gura (I'm still in the now-wiped discord, even) and her relative apathy to streaming is what makes me think she'll just sit on her ass at hololive
I am going out to an anime convention soon with my decked out fauna merch. I don't know if I should wear them now due to the embrassment
>>90556331technically the west did have an idol industry I think. it was just exclusively male like those one direction guys and bieber and the backstreet boys and shit lmao.
This immediately following the Chloe announcement. At least now we know that Hololive has no graduation queue or "one per month" deal or anything like. When people want to leave they fucking leave.
>>90557436Not really. Let Hololive be Vtuber idols, and let the rest live our their indie streamer dreams. There's a place for both.
>>90553063nooooo
I swear to God if they announce Fauna graduation merch. It has been tone deaf every single time they've done it.
Who else is in graduation watch?Besides Gura and Mumei.
Who's the father?
>>90557540it hasn't been confirmed a graduation yet, just an announcement.
>>90557648>gura
Not like this. I can't take losing another so soon after Ame.
>>90553063Sorry parrot, you're being transfered to the holo mines this december
Me, of course.
>>90557404ASMR aside, you dont think that first thing she does is to commission new or updated model?
>>90557673Gigi
>>90557673me
>>90557540Not until confirmation
>>90557062When that happens, I'm mainly going to be upset for the rat that she'll be the only Council member left, and Promise will be nothing more than cementing the ship with Irys.
>>90557648That or the queue is packed.
how can Fauna graduate because of DEI if she's woke herself?checkmate atheists
>>90553646>Kronii and management DO NOT get alongKronii finally got a manger she likes and has gone out of her way to defend, her including standing up for her when she was being bullied by other staff at Cover. Kronii will celebrate the day the staffer in charge of perms that is specifically ghosting her dies though.
wtf is happening? too many holos are retiring...
>90557568
>45k plus waitingohhhh boy
KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF! KILLING MYSELF!
10 minutes until the best late April Fools joke ever...
>people shitposting the concept of pregnancy>thinking an actually attractive gamer girl who has money wouldn't get knocked up in the 3+ years she's been making fat stacksLol, LMAO even
>>90557610Wear it
Why would anyone care about semi-retired girls finally finishing the deed.Sakamata was the only real curveball
>>90557728I genuinely think Gura doesn't WANT to leave, but if the new requirements are as heavy as it seems, she might get forced out.
>>90557537I ain't no unicorn you fucking monkey with cum instead of brain i just don't like ASMR since i think its just fetish garbage. I even wrote that she can have a family or whatever, i don't give a shit.
I will be ceasing my Hololive watching activities
Cover just never believed in streaming. The weird game they play is treating it like vtubing and streaming could die any day now. I guess I don't blame them. Youtube is unpredictable and Twitch hates vtubers.
>>90557149>snowbunny on the pictureYou won't trick me you nigger worshipper, kill yourself and fuck off
>>90556510Don't worry, Holo is going to debut another EN gen and you will oshi some of the new girls, so when the girls you like now eventually graduate, you'll just say the same thing you're doing now.That's how brands work.
>She starts the stream>She greets a bit and thanks everyone for coming>She says that she is seeing the comments and she is surprise to see that many people>She says that its something important so she will just say it right away>She is not graduating, she is just taking an extended break just like Amelia, she will be able to come back in the future and participate in events but will not stream actively anymore.>She says that she is sorry it had to be this sudden seeing what has already happened to other members>She says goodbye and ends streamShe is actually just quitting hololive, but she is just using the new convenient option of it not being a full blown graduation but everyone knows she is just done being part of a corpo
>>90557817Man this troll is gonna be so funny haha
>>90557718copealso what's Fauna's PL? might as will get ready
>>90557849Will me your bank account.
>>90556062Really? How did they want to change her character?
Her PL has been active recently. 1000% this is graduation.
>>90555493Most of what makes a fan like a vtuber is the person behind the model, that much is true, but they also like them for the model and, I think more importantly, they like them in a specific environment. The most talked about example of this is Coco, who got a large following due to her antics being juxtaposed with Hololive's idol facade and her English being used to create a bridge between the foreign fans and the Japanese talents. She doesn't have that anymore.Because jannies are trannies I'm not going to use names, but there was this popular quasi-indie who could speak both English and Japanese. She had a cute voice and a cute model; a very unique model that people found instantly recognizable and helped her stand out from the pack. Her quasi-indie status gave her some Japanese friends with similar personalities who she could bounce off of, especially since she could explain English things to them, and this lead to a lot of funny moments and helped her become popular. She graduated and reincarnated as an indie, coming up with a model herself and making new friends. Her model is nothing special, because at the end of the day, women all have roughly the same tastes and would be clones of each other if they had the choice; her new friends are spotty e-thots whose fanbases are far removed from the more weeby side of the vtuber sphere she originally became popular with. She still has a following, but no one talks about her anymore. She used to be ahead of the pack, now she's just part of it. And that's fine, if that's what she wants, but if you're someone who watches vtubers for fun you obviously dread shit like that happening.>>90555804Fauna and Cecilia are old friends, if Fauna's leaving I doubt Cecilia has high hopes for the future.It's actually pretty surprising to me because Fauna has been one of the most active and popular EN talents recently and I feel like it wasn't that long ago she talked about wanting to GM a TTRPG campaign for HoloEN, probably D&D. I guess something changed between then and now.But they knew about it 2 weeks ago, which is why FaunaMart wasn't part of the EnReco recap stream. The point of a recap is to remind everyone what happened before so they can know what to expect next. If she's gone, then there's no point in reminding them.
>gigi endingYep, it's a graduation 100%.
>>90557794contract renewal seasonticking time bombs for all holos knowing it's a job and not just a hobby turned living
>>90557743Put me in the video
>>90557817I'm not going to watch, I'll just read about it later. I hate goodbyes and never watch graduation streams in general.
it's not because of "idolshit" eithershe loved the concerts and performing at least as much as she was able toHololive content hasn't changed either
Just have cover put out a tweet and then go live to talk about it. I hate this waiting. Just got off fucking work and I get to come home to this shit. We just got hit with Chloe leaving yesterday. It's Christmas time, I just put the tree up. Have some mercy.
>>90557404Hey! Her hurricane ASMR is pure fucking soul!
>>90557989Anon, Kronii literally jokes about killing herself.
>>90557921It’s a dumb strategy though, what the fuck else are they going to do? Concerts are not something you can do all the time like streaming and doesn’t build the personal connection that makes those concerts meaningful in the first place
You can thank Ame for this, she showed other holos you can just dip back to indie and still collect checks for cameos. This is not the last one this year, you'll see
>>90558022This is way past contract renewal season
>>90558022gura...
>>90558106No mercy. Only pain.
>>90554917A reminder /pol/ cheats because their cooldown is twice as short as every other board and /vg/ is handicapped because their cooldown is twice as long.
>>90557916Will you be watching on your alt?
>>90557753these things are usually decided upon and known months in advance, even. it's possible she's already had something cooking. look how quickly aqua and ame turned around
>>90557891I think it just all has to do with contracts, if she has a cushy contract she just isn't gonna feel the heat like the others. given her status and how cover clearly values her so much they had her do that baseball thing, they probably gave her a very good deal. we're seeing it, she has no accountability basically and doesn't have to do anything. there is a good question however of how will she possibly continue being a holo when the fucking few friends she made past ame are either leaving or also generally MIA like she is. she doesn't know anyone in justice or advent like, at fucking all.
>>90557344The writing has been on the wall for Gura for two years now. I'm now convinced she will never leave and is contracted to only do 10 streams per year which can include collabs.
>9 minutes until judgement9 minutes until judgement>9 minutes until judgement
>>90558011People celebrated the "thanksgiving subs" stream but it was very unnerving for me. That was supposed to be the actual warning
i'm going to bed to wake up from this nightmare.
>>90556921And if that was the reason, where would she even go to do it? YouTube got all pissy about ASMR content this last year and Twitch is garbage for any kind of archiving system. It would be a real head scratcher.
>>90558150even for jap corps?
>>90558331OnlyFans
>IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT>tummy hort lolYour reaction?
I'm going to laugh so hard when all the doomposting turns out to be wrong.
>>90558011Henya?
>>90557938i hate this, it’s like a death where we’re not having a burial because they tell us they’re only "sleeping"
It's unironically going to break me more if it's to announce she has cancer or some disease due to her diet
>>90557954>>90555997
>>90556921gay
>>90558331Fansly
>>90558022Can they not just have a custom contract after the first one expires saying "more of the same until X day"
>>90558119So? That's everybody. I joked about killing myself at least 3 times today
guys, any chances of getting a full promise nedoroid set at this rate? I really like this hobby alot....
>>90556921Autists do tend to have sensory issues.
>>90558423None, since it's not going to happen, even considering it is just cope.
10 minutes until I kill myself.
>>90558158gura has a life-time contract
>goes indie>actually does asmr>patreons lewd asmr>first billionaire vtuber
>>90558127Yeah I don't quite understand what the fuck their strategy is. This could have just been "Why not do both?" but they are locked the fuck in with this idol thing.Why the fuck are the boys safe from this shit
as someone from the other side of the world, how am I supposed to go to church with this weighing on my mind?
>>90558456A lifetime of eating sticks and raw fennel has turned her asshole into raw hamburger. She is already dead Anon.
>>90558158Gura is far and beyond any regular vtuber rules
>>90557938the whole partner thing is just a stealth graduation
>>90558562you won't
Fauna's about to reach affiliate status!
>>90558331Noel can help her out
>>90558423
>>90558456>dietTurbocancer comes from the safe and effective mRNA jabs
>Korone has a stream overlapping itEither they'll wrap this up in 10 minutes, or she's already dead to the dog god
>>90557646The western talent scene for "idols" is all about solo performances or at most one person with background dancers.Outside of rock bands, it's a bunch of people doing their own thing at the top
>5 minutes until judgement >5 minutes until judgement >5 minutes until judgement
why are green women so cursed?
>>90558506oh absolutely, cover's shareholders need every cent they can get before they abandon the ruined husk of Hololive Gamers and Sora, as everyone else jumps ship.
>>90558433Bro. I want egg on my face.
>>90558423I hope it is just that and isn't a graduation.it still hurts all these years later...
>>90558562you won't pussy
>>90558575Why is he banking on the boys anyway? Such a retarded move by yagoo, he should know better to stay away from all that nijisanji bullshit, but no, apparently that’s where he wants to take the company.Inb4 next EN gen is a mixed gender one
>>90553646I initially worried that there was some kind of mismanagement going on, but I think now the problem is just the crushing workload after hearing about Chloe. The talents aren't being mismanaged per se, they're just being ground down and overworked.I think by the end of 2025, HoloEN gens 1-2 will probably be down to Calli, Kiara, Baelz, and IRyS. Maybe Ina too. I think everyone else can't handle the workload and is heading for the exits. IMO, if Cover wants to avoid a talent exodus, they need to allow talents to pick and choose which events they will be in and give them the option to get on a streaming-only track. I think it is dangerous to just let veteran talents flee for the exits en masse like this and Cover needs to incentivize them to stay.It's perhaps good news that half of Advent has decided to go all-in on Hololive and now lives in Japan.
>>90558562>CZAs if owning a glocknade wasn't bad enough, you went out and got eastern european glocknade
>>90558730highlander rulesthere can be only one
It's probably a moral reason. She hates the kayfabe, lying to what she knows is mostly a audience of unicorns when she's not single, and getting monetarily rewarded for the deception.
Phase Connect wins again
>>90558692dogs like to dig up grass, it's only natural
>Hey we know Covid fucked up so you all get a free 3D live>Oh by the way here's the middle finger on this monkey paw curling up on why that opportunity is possible
>>90558300what happened there?
>>90558787Being given the truth is better than being left in permanent limbo, it's like leading an ex on with the false premise that "maybe we will get back together in the future..."It is sad but there is a mercy in being absolute with what is happening.
>>90558562You know the rule: you have to stream it
>>90558423my sides would go beyond orbital
>>90558586Gain enlightenment by subbing to her indie account.
>>90558904Sana not even on there lol
>>90558423i reeeeeeally don't think she would be that tone deaf. she will catch a LOT of flak ofr trolling a graduation, especially just 2 days after another holomem announced graduation
Reflect on her streams.. your sensations.. your posts.. your emotions.. graduation will not wait.. no matter how hard you hold on..And..
>>90558224It's worse than that. /pol/'s is half as long and /vg/'s is half as short
>EN "AAA" game development collapsing>EN "AAA" vtubing collapsingWe're watching the fall of the Roman empire in real time.
>>90558904next one can't be fuwamoco because it would mean 2 talents so it's between shiori and rissaERB will get bored of hololive sooner or later
>>90558950>continues as an indie
>>90558904Newfags already forgot about Sana's existence
>>90555339You can only say that after someone actually important leaves like Pekora, Marine or Suisei or Gura
>>90558904I am willing to sacrifice ERB and Raora just to keep Advent and CCGG. I don't care for the mommy fetishists and i hate that ERB can't sing for shit
>>90559063"western" "entertainment" is a rome that deserves to fall
I wanna throw up
>>90559063damn
>>90559122>ERB will get bored of hololive sooner or lateri figure she'll come out of her shell and be like botan
>Hey maybe we shouldn't keep investing in this stupid social game >Hey maybe we shouldn't keep investing in boys that only get 100 views>Nah fuck that let's just stress our real money makers to the point of leaving????????????????????
Make a new thread
>>90558562Stream it!
>>90555279I liked fapping to her art knowing she hates it
TOTAL KRONII DEATH
Oh baybee time for a trainwreck like no other
>>90559122I'm guessing kronii or moom
starting
Why is there a stream of huge donations if they assume she is graduating? retard simps
its time
Guys she'll just be affiliated not graduating
>no BGMIt's so fucking over
No intro. No music.
This is because I whacked it earlier today, isn't it?That's it, I'm never jerking it ever again.
>>90558046It's easier for their narratives if they convince themselves it's because of that
i'm not ready
>live>complete silenceYeah, it's over.
Here we fucking go. Get ready. Its so fucking over.
>>90558575It's pretty clear the strategy is "Give them a quiet year of streaming to establish their fanbase and build their brand, then get them doing concerts to capitalize on that momentum and slow down the streaming."The boys are safer from this because they don't make any money, so they're not investing in them as much for events.
>>9055932010 minute cooldown
it's over
WOW IT'S LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING
trouble in paradise, holokeks?
>>90559485>implying becoming affiliate isn't graduating
welp, it's time
>>90558575The idol stuff is fun, the problem is all the paperwork and meetings Cover makes them do. Laplus was talking about it with regard to Sakamata. Japs are just workaholics and they grind their employees into dust, for no good reason.The idol side of Hololive has always been a perfect match for vtubers. Vtubers and idols almost 100% overlap. Even Kson, who some anons like to champion as being the anti-idol, said vtubers shouldn't have boyfriends. She knows the deal. Hololive was smart for marketing their talents as virtual idols, it was a winning play.What isn't a winning play is making them do actual work. The fans don't like these girls because they dance on stage twice a year, the fans like these girls because they're streamers. That's it. That's what it's always been. They're geeky NEETs who play video games and watch YouTube and anime all day and their fans like them for that. If Cover forces them to take singing or dancing lessons, they're retarded. If Cover forces them to sit in Discord and listen to minutia over merchandise or copyright laws, they're retarded. This is not a job that requires paperwork, all they have to do is stream.And the girls are realizing they don't need Cover for that.
Oh man she's going to cry, it's too painful
I don't want to believe......
>>90559315>Blaming holostarsyou just can't help it can you?literally nothing to do with this and you still have to try to blame them.
>No modelIt's over
yeah it's so fucking over lmao
>pre-written wordsIT'S FAUNOVER
>>90555559>everything is fine>becomes publicly traded with shareholder cuntoids demanding ever-growing amounts of cash inflow>suddenly everything goes to shit>it's definitely the talent despite them all saying it's the new direction and stress-induced sicknessGod I fucking hate social mediafags
>complete and crippling silenceoh no.
Its so over
Kill me now. Please just kill me now.
IT'S OVER
>scriptits over
Chills is that you?
its over...
IT'S SO FUCKING OVER
Owari....
MANAGEMENT HATE.
>CONFIRMEDBAAAAAAAAASED
AIIIIIIIIE
Graduating jan 23rd...FUCK MANAGEMENT!
>disagreement with managementHoly fuck, she just came out and said it
MANAGEMENT HATE
>ITS REAL LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO]
she's crying...
>Disagreement with managementShe sounds like she doesn't give a fuck
OH SHIT SHE ACTUALLY IS GRADUATINGAND IT'S BECAUSE OF MANAGEMENT
Jan 3...FUCK
its so over boys and girls
>DISAGREEMENT WITH MANAGEMENTWHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN THERE?
>She's actually graduating>It's ANOTHER fight with managementIt was, not in fact, okay.
FUCKING SHAREHOLDERS
Fucking management
>disagreement with management>disagreement with management>disagreement with management>disagreement with management>disagreement with management
BASEDASED
>leaving jan 6 because of disagreements with managementFUBUKI!?!
WEW LAD
>>90558562Time to go Anon!!!!! LET FUCKING GOOOOO!!!!
>discernment with managmentI fucking knew it.
>just bluntly says its because of a disagreement with managementThis will not help stop the rrats
GOD DAMN IT.
>disagreement with management
>Disagreement with managementFuck everything...
>>905599813rd ESL, THIRDTHREE1, 2, 3NOT 23
Management defenders doko?
I MISS FAUNA
>it's managementoh wow all rrats are real who would have thought
>>90560277Good, fuck management
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
WTF IS MANAGEMENT DOING?
NOT AFFILIATE BUT GRADUATION NOT AFFILIATE BUT GRADUATION NOT AFFILIATE BUT GRADUATION NOT AFFILIATE BUT GRADUATION NOT AFFILIATE BUT GRADUATION
maybe omega wasent so bad afterall.
FUCK MANAGEMENT
I wish there could be more specifics on what the disagreement is
>>90560153Fubuki is a drone and is not to be trusted.
holyy
>UGH MY LIFE IS SO HARD, MANAGERS WANT ME TO WORK AT MY JOB AND OCCASIONALY RECORD FOR A CONCERTthese women are so spoiled
>>90556544You lostLMAO
>disagrement with managementWHAT THE FUCK IS MANAGEMENT DOING??????????????????????????????????
>>90554917Can we get an update of the numbers
>>90558562Where the link?
THE RRATS
management?so is management like the big boogey man or is it an easy scapegoat?
PARROT PUT ME ON THE FUCKING VIDEOOOOOOOOOOOOO! REEEEEEEEEEEE
TOTAL MANAGEMENT DEATH!
W SCRIPT
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHBAN MEBAN ME FROM /VT/AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>even Chloe will stay around longerThis is a new level of Over
Stop donating to Hololive if she is mad at the management, faggots
oh my god that management explanation is HUGE
WHAT THE FUCK DID MANAGEMENT DO?!?!?!?
Management is kinda shit not going to lie
Okay, how many trannies are on the holive management?
>>90560483Wasn't he Dimitri Jap?
>>90560538stfu bootlicker
>>90560604Hey Parrot your voice is disgusting
management is a buncha fucking faggots
The good times could have continued on but greed corrupts absolute
>I'm not leaving because I don't want to be hereWell that's a little paradoxical aint it?
>>90560548Trying to make wahmen actually work (very difficult task)
>>90560153>January 6thFuck, I should have saved the pic of her as Trump
>>90560483NO JAP I DONT "RIKE"
>loves hololive and doesn't actually want to leaveHow fucking bad is management? Jesas.
>>90560720It's probably more what they didn't do
>>90560438Fauna is joining Williams?
My single favorite vtuber design of all time...
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
THE FUCKING ORC WAS RIGHT
I WANT TO WIPE HER TEARS IM GOING TO FUCKING CRY
WHAT THE FUCK IS WORTH MORE THAN THE TALENTS, HUH COVER?
>>90560438Tifosi it's over. This and the wcc
I have never watched Fauna much but I really feel like crying anyways
FUCK YAGOO>FUCK YAGOOFUCK YAGOO>FUCK YAGOOFUCK YAGOO>FUCK YAGOOFUCK YAGOO>FUCK YAGOOFUCK YAGOO>FUCK YAGOOFUCK YAGOO>FUCK YAGOO
Take me back to 2020...
>>90560826She is saying that she wants to stay but management is fucking her over
So when do I wake up...
TOTAL MANAGER DEATH
>>90560538Are they? The Internet is full of popular streamers who have zero paperwork and can stream literally whatever they want, and they 100% own their Internet identity.
>Directly blamed managementso she's not gonna be an affiliate I take it?
Oh wow the Jp Corpo in cahoots with Niji is also black, who could have seen this coming?
