>>215864
wrestlers fear the azumanga daioh no kata

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>>215867
SEOI NAGE

>>215864
>Are you excited for the return of (single) leg grabs?
quick rundown?

>>215873
Leg grabs are returning in 2025 in japan open

>>215874
this some kind of trial run? are the IJF going to watch the tourny and be like "no no no, this looks too much like wrestling" and ban leg grabs again?

>>215864
Is breaking your finger as common as people joke about?
>T. Wrestler look for something to do

>>215927
no, tearing a nail or getting nail problems is prevalent though

>>215927
hygiene standards are high in martial arts, like all of them. so no

>>215913
I hope not. I'm 5'7 so I really need that shit.
I heard a rumor that is related to the somewhat diminished Russian (and surrounding nations) presence in Judo do to the war and whatnot. The japs and the frenchies no longer feel threatened by them so naturally the wrestling side of judo is up for grabs, "olympically" speaking

>>215927
Breaking? No. Sprains are common however.
>t. Sprained finger and two toes in the past year

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>>216006
>The japs and the frenchies no longer feel threatened by them so naturally the wrestling side of judo is up for grabs

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>>215864
Anyone here know anything about the judo scene in Los Angeles? Which schools are both competent and injury-averse? I'm trying to talk my friend into training so he'll be more fun to throw around on holidays but he's getting old and has some injuries from other physical activities.

>>216085
In my experience pain comes from wanting to win
Only retards push an old man ton his limit
If your friend prioritizes landing safely he's safe
Also avoid ukeing for tai otoshi
But always be uke

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>>216087
>In my experience pain comes from wanting to win
>Only retards push an old man ton his limit
A novice has very few tools to assess that and sometimes old men need to be told to not push themselves to their old limits anymore.

>>216115
>A novice has very few tools to assess that
my instructors push grips and breakfalls hard and it works for me
i have other hobbies as well so i prioritize falling safely to the detriment to my ability to grapple effectively

>>216087
pain comes from the dumbass that trains 5x a week but still has shit randori and wins through pure strength and boderline tackling and stiff arming you

>>216085
if it's a good school the injury rate should be low and horror stories should be almost non existent. ALMOST

>>216085
I heard good things about legion

>>216136
It's interesting when you think of horror stories there's almost always an obese person on one side of it

>>216135
Right I mean any competitive game right now there's plenty of 1000x games per season played and hardstuck in the same division
I still blame the cobra kai win at all costs mentality
I for one get bigger whiplash the harder I try when I invariably get osoto'd
>>216151
On the other hand the obese guy at my gym often fucks himself up, all I have to do is survive and 3 minutes later he looks like he was waterboarded while wrestling with a python in a hotbox in peak summer

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Sitting at seiza should be a fucking submission holy shit. I have a promotion next week and it's the thing I train the most, I cannot literally manage 2 minutes sitting like that. And I'm not obese.

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>>216285
It's a fake western thing
Nips sit on pillows if they're going to be down for an extended period of time and elderly people aren't expected to do it at all

>>216310
god i wish my face was that pillow

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>YOU WILL-UH DO 1000 PUSHUPS
>AND YOU WILL-UH LIKE-U IT

>>216374
I won't do the push ups
I won't do the jumping jacks
I won't run in circles
I WILL show up to class 15 minutes late if you try to make me

>>216374
imagine a match between kimura and riner

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>>216375
YOU WILL-UH BUNNY HOP-U 1 KILOMETERS
YOU WILL-UH PRACTICE-U UCHI MATA ON TREE

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>>216375
YOU ARE DIS-A-HONORABLE

>>216375
if that's all they're making you do you should be greatful
any traditional gym will make you do handstands, shuffles, cartwheels, front rolls before finishing off with uchi-komis
which is the most essential part of the warm up to get you actually warm for doing judo

>>216379
Why do you think I don't go to judo? I don't need some old fat guy telling me to do gymnastics up and down the mat

>>216375
>I WILL get injured and then complain how dangerous judo is

>>216380
If you can't do that part with ease you shouldn't be practicing a martial art
You're like a toddler who wants to ride a motorbike before they can crawl lmao

>>216375
>petulant manchild complains about having to do what teacher says
I’m sorry, what do you train again? Surely it’s not “nothing”, right????

>>216391
I've seen more people get taken out from doing somersaults and neck bridges than in actual judo accidents, and the judo accidents that do occur are from uncontrolled crashing body weight which is going to blow your shit out no matter how warmed up you are

Hell I've seen at least 2 occasions where someone goes down because their foot got caught between the seam of the mats during the laps 30 seconds into class

>>216392
You dont even need to be able to do it either. Most of what they want out of you is rolling and ukemi.

>>216416
on regular forward jogging or reverse ball-of-the-foot-slide jogging?

>>216419
Regular ass running

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>>216423
...i dont even know what to say to that

>>216310
I thought pain was the point, along the lines of "by sitting this way I make my legs numb so you know I won't attack you."

>>216459
It's just considered a polite way to sit down, and also you're only sitting like that either in a tatami room or on a pillow so of course it hurts if you're doing it on a western style floor

>>216459
if you do research you'll find a lot of weird unspoken rules of sittinv
>you can sit anyway you want just dont have your feet facing the sensei

as an example

>>216310
>fake western thing
I had a Korean instructor who was born under the Japanese occupation and we sat seiza or cross-legged in his class, with the implicit preference seeming to be seiza and the latter seeming to be a concession to Western preferences.

>>216416
there's nothing like forgetting to stretch before weekend class and going sore from all the tension of being thrown at mach 10

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>forced to do groundwork with a girl half my size
>get to her back, pelvis on her ass
>trying to get lapel grip and get a clock choke but cant get the fucking grip
>she starts to push her ass into my dick and says really loud "YOU LIKE THAT?" before laughing
>dismount in fear of being ousted as a perv
>mfw
I wish we could ban women

>>216636
>anon FORCED to touch a woman
>immediately goes for the ass
>tries to choke cock
>surrenders because women are icky
wrestling might be more your speed.

>>216636
>anon physically recoils from a woman’s touch
Lmfao

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>>216636
>can we ban wom- *ACK*

>>216637
correction
>surrenders so his gym-mates don't think he likes girls

>>216637
>>216639
>>216642
>>216643
women can rape men

>>216636
>she starts to push her ass into my dick and says really loud "YOU LIKE THAT?"
I'VE FOUGHT *OOF* MUDCRABS MORE FEARSOME *AAGH* THAN YOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKfM5iOqoKw&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM_mg9nvcdY

>>216642
how could sakuraba lose like this how will wrestlers ever recover :((

>>216661
there are no losers in that webm

>>216657
Very interesting interpretations.
>>215864
Just in case you guys don't know, in the kodokan youtube channel there are actual instructionals made by world class judokas. I didn't notice because the titles were all in japanese, I thought they were interviews or something.

>>216820
real niggas watch Mercuryu Judo

>judo
>just show up to class consistently and participate and you'll eventually learn throws and their names

>bjj
>show up to class and pay $150 for an instructional about footsweeps even though you should have learned it in class

>>216862
let's see judo's ne-waza

I got promoted yesterday :^). Only an orange belt, it does make me feel awkward to be relatively old (22) and have what's usually a kid's belt, but what the hell.

>>216918
>what's usually a kid's belt, but what the hell.

junior ranking orange belt would be white-orange

>>216919
or is it yellow orange?
I know some schools the junior ranks deviate after green.
Instead of brown they go purple.
and i know some of them dont do the split color rankings.

>>216919
I mean having such a low rank. It isn't about the color specifically.

>>216938
well enjoy the color change while it lasts
you're gonna be a brown belt for a very long time once you hit it

>>216942
Thanks. And yeah, my chances of being a black belt are slim for the next decade since I don't want to compete, and if I do it's unlikely that I'll get very far since I can't dedicate myself fully to judo.

>>216933
sumi gaeshi my beloved

>>215864
What's /judo/ favorite striking style?

>>217054
for me, its judo.

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>gently sweeps your lead foot
Heh, nothin personnel

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>>217124
my honest reaction

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I'm not sure if I can post here but there's a fuck ton of instructionals available in rutracker.
I love these guys but I'm not paying 20/30 bucks for a video kek.
https://rutracker.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1591

>>217279
You can't, I'm contacting my attorney right this very minute.

>>217279
>$20/$30 per video
a new belt costs that much and you learn that shit in class

>>217291
I'm personally anti-instructional because I don't see the value in them for the time spent let alone if people actually pay for them on top of that

if there's any instructional I'm interested in it's likely just a specific section which I'll watch one time at 2x speed and catch the gist of it "oh that's pretty cool" and that's it. People trying to actually learn large amounts of material from them are in a rough spot

these are the only belts I wear now, best in the business if you ask me
https://www.kataaro.com/

>>217288
DAMN IT you even got dubs
>>217291
Partially, but with these instructionals you learn from a world class judoka, combined with set ups, training/uchikomi methods, etc.

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>>217124
>RAPIDLY GOES IN FOR A HIP GRAB AND USHIRO-GOSHIS YOU

I'm a blue belt shitter and I found a place that runs a weekly 1h wrestling class close to my home.
Do you think it's worth it to improve my self-defense? I'm short so single legs sounds good to me.
Keep in mind my judo club only trains 3x a week (1 of them is conditioning only) and there is no way to increase this.

my training partners keep trying to break my legs with shitty tani otoshis and kosoto gakes/leg reaps
what's the most graceful way i can tell them that i think their technique may be wrong or dangerous?

>>217395
Ua nage

>>217395
gaeshi(counter) him.
>shitty reap
>reap him with the same throw back
>osoto gaeshi
>profit

>>217395
>Hey man/bitch please don't do that you can injure my legs
Okay sorry
You carry on and if he does it again:
>Listen I can't do randori if you're trying to harm me permanently, I have a life outside of this and I need my knees
That's it.

>>217395
ask him to help you practice a new technique (its kani basami and you are going to break his calf on purpose without warning)

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>>215864
After training for more than a year I've had my first bad class, and fuck it, I'm going to bitch about it here
>brown belt retard appears
>perhaps not even a brown in judo, but a brown at japanese jiu jitsu, but he had the bright idea of practicing with us today (there are usually parallel classes)
>okay, fine I usually think the more the merrier because we're a niche sport in my shithole
>this fag starts speaking weeaboo japanese, answering "hai" to our sensei
>we're the national judo training dojo in our country, and while we keep a lot of traditions, we don't go full retard like this guy
>starts yelling to bow at the beginning, we usually bow but never with a mongoloid yelling
>injures a kid while doing uchikomis, keep in mind that this kid usually trains with us (adult kyus) and never had a problem because he's tough and flexible.
>somehow slams into his hand, I go check on the kid and thankfully nothing too bad, has to stop training for the day
>my turn to do newaza randori with him, taps out after I immobilize him
>we reset, he get the better of me, retard tries to wrist lock me
>gayest shit ever, barely felt it, ripped my hand out due to sweat and strength
>gets my back
>goes for the hadake jime and fails
>he taps my back
>I ask him what's wrong
>says he had my back already, and he was going to break my jaw, so he stopped it
>say okay, stretch his hand and leave mad as fuck
>retard tells me I'm not allowed to leave the tatami and tells me to fix my judogi
>At this moment I start pondering if he's actually serious, and he is
>class over before I can reply

>>217420
this anon again,

i forgot to mention the brown belt is a 9-year-old

>>217433
I'm a noob but doesn't this give more damage to him than the other guy? Seems like he slammed his head on the mat.

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How do I stop thinking about Judo when having sex?

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Judo 2025 rule updates are out. Some notable changes:

>yuko is back but only for newaza
>bear hugs are legal as long as you don't fully clasp your hands together
>"Positive activity in ne-waza will be taken in consideration" whatever that means
>gripping inside the sleeves is legal, gripping inside the trousers is legal in newaza
>use of head to throw and defend is allowed (outside of cadets)
>korean seoi is legal again (outside of cadets)
>leg grabs are NOT back (but you can grip the belt and skirt from below as long as you don't stall)

https://www.ijf.org/news/show/judo-presents-the-new-rules

>>217671
if they want to choose to be left behind by not allowing leg grabs then so be it
they want to expand judo then it needs to allow everything bjj does, that's the direct competition theyre fighting against and losing

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>>217671
>leg grabs are NOT back (but you can grip the belt and skirt from below as long as you don't stall)
I hate Judo.

>>217682
You'll notice the person demonstrating is a morbidly obese European, and the panel behind him is half women and nobody in the room is even Asian

This isn't judo

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>>217671
everybody was hyped for leg grabs making a comeback and now they pull this shit

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>>217671
>bear hugs are legal as long as you don't fully clasp your hands together
>leg grabs are NOT back
>oh but you can grab them by the leg as long as you don't stall >:)
Do the heads of IJF just have a serious blue-balling fetish or something? Like what the fuck? They just seem so fucking smug and enjoy ruining everyone's expectations.

>>217671
Well at least they're going to give newaza some more consideration but the rest are a fucking tease

>>217671
>here are the new rules

>same exact rules as before

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>>217671

>>217671
>wait for every boomer that knows leg grabs to die
>reintroduces leg grabs
>every black belt that doesnt know leg grabs has go flock to the few millenials and zoomer dojo that know leg grabs

would be hilarious if this is a long form plan to just net a ton of money to specific judoka

>>217726
it's because americans are the main characters and allowing leg grabs would overnight make our judo team the worst to the best because we have a distinct edge from scholastic wrestling none of the irrelevant countries have exposure to
it's another yoroupian scheme originating from their inferiority complex

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>>217671
>bear hugs are legal as long as you don't fully clasp your hands together
holy cope

>>217727
>we have a distinct edge from scholastic wrestling none of the irrelevant countries have exposure to
Practically all of the strong judo countries (other than France I guess) have strong wrestlers as well.

>>217743
that gif is retarded.
you cant beat that arm in a competitive situation

>>217671
https://youtu.be/aSE7p_rhfyc?si=J4xLMn30zsuUIbu_

https://youtu.be/_M9GTgz41lQ?si=QK6VrqhK2K-7Sx20

This entire thread on suicide watch

Would shotokan be a good striking art to complement judo?

>>217813
kyoukushin or bust dude

>>217814
kyokushin is the best because one time 60 years ago 3 guys won some but not all of the fights against random thai boxers and that proves it

>>217819
>this one time at rhe forbidden kumite of 380bc

sold
im sold where do i sign?

>>217823
just get a friend and practice at home by following these instructions :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQBBSLtReNk

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>>217793
sometimes i do wonder how the black belts at our club got so good when all they teach is warm ups, gymnastics and similarly kata-esque technique
it fucking sucks being taught watered-down judo

>>217827
It's interesting, in the west you find these old white guys with the strict honorabu traditional methods
And when I went to Japan it was chill as fuck, the nips just hung around and played it wasn't all stuffy and strict or anything

It's just more fetishizing of the far east and this fictional culture westerners think they have

Turns out sports are meant to be a fun hobby, imagine that

>>217814
The only kyokushin place I can attend is a weekly 3h long saturday class because it's a 1h travel.
Shotokan I would be able to train 2x 2h classes a week.
Or I can just train muay thai but I wanted something without boxing gloves and there are no mma classes here.

>>217831
>without boxing gloves
If this is for self defense proper muay thai mogs the fuck out of shotokan, at least for an adult hobby practitioner

>>217847
Yes. It's for self defense and buying a gun/knife is not an option in my country.
Maybe I should just train muay thai like you said bacause it has classes everyday. Elbows and knees are nice to have.

>>217813
>>217848
From a historical perspective, yes. Jigoro Kano and Gichin Funakoshi were close friends. From a practical standpoint, you're more likely to find a good muay thai school than shotokan school.

>>217776
skill issue

>>217831
Basically every Karate guy that can actually fight does "kickboxing" at this point. Anyone going out of their way to do some niche sport like kyokushin or lethwei is probably there because they can't hack it in the big pool. Unless you just really like the sport (like American judoka), do the most popular full contact one.

>>217847
I would honestly TKD over Shotokan at this point. Even if the rules are weird in the grand scheme of kickboxing, at least the focus on Olympic competition means you're actually practicing landing body and head kicks against a moving target. Shotokan ime is much more about the kata and athletic demonstration aspects than punching and kicking an uncooperative opponent.

>>216379
>>216380
When I think judo I think of jigoro kano
It's a hobby for me and I have a stand up job with delicate finger tasks
Anyone who insists on being a pseudo carnie just to do what amounts to manhandling is retarded
Also if good self defense is done on the street anything I need to warm up for is retarded because i won't have time to do all that stupid shit when a rapist wants my asshole

>>216933
This is bullshit because if single legs were allowed he would have been taken down

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>>218277
Single legs are allowed in sambo and stuff like that still happens. Sumi gaeshi can be a single leg counter on its own.

And if you want to act like it's something that would only happen because of the jacket and wouldn't work no-gi, it works in wrestling too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZIJ7FPiGgQ

>>218304
Holy shit, first time I see a sumi gaeshi executed like that, fuckin tuff

>>217793
I wholeheartedly agree with all this. This is something that's bothered me since I started judo, and it's become a sort of elephant in the room. The gap between a textbook throw and its practical, randori version has become too big in some cases. There's too much emphasis on drilling the "right way" not the effective way, which would make Jigoro roll in his grave. Even as you're taught the basic textbook movement, you're basically left on your own to figure out how to execute that throw in an actual fight. Uchi mata is a big case because the standard textbook version is so comically wrong and ineffective. Consequentally the "real" Uchi mata took me years to figure out, as I'm sure its taken others, and that's a sign something's not right in the teaching methods. I haven't trained for months now but last time I did, I was learning more from watching pros and copying them on the mat than from my own teachers. I think overall the way judo is taught needs a reform or else it's going to rot and decay. It needs to self-criticize and adapt instead of adhering to the dogma of textbook throws.

I have man tits and a weak upper body..do you judokas do any gym sessions outside of your judo stuff to make yourself stronger? if so what? dont laugh at me i'll kill myself

>>218403
I work out 8 days a week.
Sunday to Sunday

>>218403
Yeah. My training outside judo is the only thing keeping me from being ragdolled like I was when I started. Just do basic bodybuilding exercises + cardio at the end. The biggest game changer for me was bench press and kegels for ne waza (even though you rarely bench press your oponent in the ground) and squats and abs machine for stand up fighting.

>>218397
It's how the Japs have been training for a long time. Rote learning. Even legends like Kimura were like
>do osotogari a million times against trees and shit
>spam it in matches until it works because your oponent's leg looks like it's been hit by a 2002 honda civic driven by a crackhead.
And this is hearsay but the frenchies have been training like this. Warm up and right into randori. They don't do nearly the amount of uchikomis like the japs.

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>>218430
>It's how the Japs have been training for a long time. Rote learning.
That's a western myth kept alive solely through muh exotic orient fetish/racism. The Japanese today train much closer to the way you think the French train; warm up with uchikomis followed by hours of randori. It might've been true back in Kimura's time when the first westerners were starting to seriously get into judo, but they haven't trained that way in decades and you can easily debunk it with a quick browse on Youtube. Hell it was already debunked in the video from the first post of the reply chain.

>>218429
>basic bodybuilding exercises
Any recommendations on what program you follow? I'm thinking of just doing something that involves squats, deads, military press, bench press and pull ups, the basic stuff for a good foundation.

>>218429
>kegels

>>218433
My Japanese sensei learned by a million uchikomis. And he's 25. They also did hours of randori, but I willing to bet the frenchies do a lot more. To settle this we would need more than a video or anecdotes.
But hey I'm not Japanese nor have I trained over there. We would have to actually ask one how are they training right now.
>>218434
Bench press, wrist curls (very important as well), bicep curls, barbell squats, push press, hip thrust (>>218437 I meant something like this you fag, but you get the gist anyhow) and push press with dumbells. That's what *I* do and perhaps not the best for judo, but generally as long as you do the basic stuff you will be fine. The point is to not bother doing the weird shit olympians do in instagram.

>>218441
Seems like a lot of upper body work in general, which makes sense since we're throwing people around...I'll consider that for sure.

>>218403
Yeah I've been lifting to get stronger for judo. I am doing Greyskull LP. It's a basic routine, nothing complicated. What actually cost me was all the bulking and eating. I was a skinny kid most of my life and not used to eating 3k cal a day with lots of protein. Took me some time and effort to adapt (and money). But it pays off.

>Greyskull LP
bleh

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>>218304
another, this time in judo

>>218565
Nothing wrong with GSLP

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>>218647
ehhhh...
>3 sets of heavy squats followed up with 3 more sets of hamstring curls and split squats
>deadlift and rdl day after hamstring curls and low bar squatting
>le deadbugs
>leaving 5 whole reps in the tank

you'd be better of with 7-day full body U/L split, one upper exercise one lower exercise. A few warmup sets followed with a maximum set and maybe, JUST MAYBE some rest-pause sets after.

Judoka aren't powerlifters, GS and SL are powerlifting routines with the vocabulary to show for it. Trust me, you're not gonna be feeling good trying to do osoto drills or uchi mata drills after deadlifting and rdling on the same day with 6 total sets. Given that you actually give intent into 4 separate hard exercises in a one hour frame.

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>>218653
I should've mentioned that I'm doing GSLP phraks variant, and not lifting on the same days as judo. pic related.

>>217793
chadi said this is bullshit and shintaro agrees
which jutuber am I supposed to belieeeeve!!!

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happy new year, /judo/. may all your ippons come true. any judo goals for 2025?

>>218762
Get a girlfriend, hopefully.

>>218397
Then lets do it bjj style.
You and your partner have 5 minutes to drill uchi mata after i show it to you once. If you ask me to show you again you're gay and if you cant do it in live randori the first you arent getting anywhere in judo.

have fun :) also half the class is on """theraputic""" dosages of trt and hgh and doesnt know how to hold back.

>spreading judo goes out the window
>shit becomes a giant filter
>judo becomes more obscure than it already is in comparison to a bjj school at every major shopping center/strip mall
>Kano rolls in his grave anyway

>>218771
People need to learn to do the throw somehow is the point im trying to make. And if spreading the philosphy and maxim of judo is one of the major goals making it bjj style where everything is go big or go home is just gonna hurt it. BJJ is already getting tons of hate in recent months because people are just realizing how insanely salty it is

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>>218772
because jiujitsu is for pretty girls

>>218773
kek

>>218767
wrong. first you get the black belt, then you get the bitches

I have tried both judo and wrestling
With wrestling I was taking people down in sparring within a few lessons

With judo I felt like I didn't know what the fuck was going on and it was stupid

>>218818
Skill issue

>>218821
Yeah judo has a skill issue

>>218818
Play chess and then try judo again

>>218818
>can take down wrestling chuds
>can't take down judo chads
rekt

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Literally can’t win a fucking match
Second time going to the examination
I can’t get a fucking green belt

>>218853
No beginner can take any beginner down. At most it's sloppy falling over after 1 minute "tandoori"

If I can grab the legs and body lock I can take down any judoka dweeb with ease

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>>218859
>If I can grab the legs and body lock I can take down any judoka dweeb with ease
umm akshually that's illegal

>>218818
I started wrestling as a young child and persisted though my time in school. I later got into judo under a high-quality instructor and loved it. Unironic skill issue, on your part and possibly on your instructor's.
>sparring within a few lessons
Scholastic/folkstyle wrestling does not allow high-altitude throws and is designed to avoid injuring student athletes. You can put a new student into wrestling sparring and the risk of serious injury is very low as long as the weights are similar and nobody is too out of shape. In contrast, falling wrong in judo sparring can easily injure you very badly. Some judo schools will allow new students to spar in ne-waza (ground work) before nage-waza (throwing techniques) and some will impose the restriction on ne-waza that there are to be no chokes or joint locks with new students, only pins, making it much more similar to sparring in scholastic wrestling.

>>218863
Yes that's why judo is massively unnapealing to people now

>Let's take away the easiest and most high percentage stuff and make people learn low percentage highly situational risky moves!

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>>218880
>>218859
>if I can't touch people's legs I am unable to take anyone down
skill issue

>>218941
Nothing happens in Greco matches for minutes at a time because of that rule so yeah. Point proven

>>218653
>GS and SL are powerlifting routines
KEK

>>219038
I know the seoi nage with the guy grinding his machete on the ground is fake, but I have never seen this, is this one actually real?

>>218653
>6 total sets

latic acid is a thing, that's even back ny scientific study. Wanna know how to get rid of it? Right after you finish leg day go ride a stationary bike for 30 minutes.
Also if all you can do is 6 sets you're a pussy.

>>219166
Depends on if you are actually trying on those 6 sets or are just DYEL and half-assing them (like GS has you do). Trust me, you've probably never even reached mechanical failure on an exercise before. Let alone 6 times on two very similar leg exercises. And on top of that going to Judo for 2 hours.

>>219167
This shit reeks of larp

>>219176
You reek of shit.

>>219192
nope, i have execellent hygenic practice as required by martial arts. The average person is disgusting to me because they're ok with literally breathing in their own fecal matter particles.
fart in their car and clothes and just letting it sit and not using a de-orderizer or disinfectant. Absolutely abhorrent. Then there's that whole subset of retards that dont wash their hands after they pee

brush your teeth before class you sick fucks

>>219195
Think that's bad? There are entire countries where people don't use water to wipe their ass.

>>219198
do they at least wash their hands properly?
>between the nails, on the palm, between their fingers, the back of the palm, etc?

>>219199
in the UK there was an indian restaurant and the inspectors found microscopic fecal matter wall to wall all over the kitchen and the judge decided there would be no action against them because the chef argued that wiping his ass with his hand is part of his culture and the judge agreed it would be racist to stop him from doing it

>>219201
That's fucking disgusting dude.
People need to wash their fucking hands.
This shit is how pandemics start.

>>219195
>He uses disinfectant after he farts in his car

Max soi

>>219204
>he shows up to class smelling like shit

>>219205
You know what bugs the shit out of me, people who show up to class already in their Gi. Knowing that they sat in their car (or god forbid public transport) in that uniform, sitting in other people's filth.

>>219201
Bongistan is beyond fucked.

>>219205
>He follows his farts with a can of deodorant

Peak oversocialised female brain soi

How much does your classes cost? \

>>219038
reminds me of a similar throw between one of the rioters and an african(?) police

>>219260
1

>>219260
1 Ugandan dollar

>>219251
you're a larper that doesnt do martial arts.
No one wants to randori with the guy that smells like shit.
You cant smell it but other people can

>>219284
it's like those retards that bathe in their own piss from bottles
they think it increase pheromones

>>219195
>fart
>take off all your clothes and disinfect them
>clean out your entire car and disinfect that too

What if you farted twice? This is so obviously unrealistic there is no way you actually do that shit. At most you hose yourself down with cancerous aerosol chemicals and call it "disinfected". Maybe you huff glade plug ins because you think that's clean lmao.

Dude you are out of your fucking mind. Fucking bubble boy delusions.

>>219286
keep telling yourself that fart fetishist

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>>219260
they're FREE

chadi bros, I think it's over for us

>>219306
why? what happened?

>>219308
he went off about the videos saying uchikomi teaches you the moves wrong calling it bullshit, even though he's a literal who thats calling an olympians opinion wrong
and now everyone has turned on him for getting uppity

>>219311
that uchikomi video has been a shitstorm of fuck. everyone in my club is talking about it

>>219312
thing is everyone is talking about it but nobody has a good counter argument to it aside from saying that's bullshit
why is it bullshit?
because I don't like the opinion!

>>219313
My sensei said something along the lines of: "Uchi komi is meant to teach you how to enter and have Uki be a PERFECT tool to practice kuzushi. Uchi komi isn't meant to simulate the technique we use during shiai or randori but the ideal technique that uses as little strength as possible." Which kind of made sense? I don't know.

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why the FUCK does NOBODY like Osoto Otoshi?

>>219314
>Uchi komi isn't meant to simulate the technique we use during shiai or randori but the ideal technique that uses as little strength as possible
the technique that uses as little strength as possible is the one that works though

lets say a person is a pro, their job is to throw people, if they don't do that they don't eat
certainly their method is the most efficient, they aren't going to land on doing a technique in a way that makes it harder for them to win
form follows function

>>219311
absolutely deserved.
>Drilling is dumb and doesnt work
even though that's verbatim how they learned it

>>219314
yes that's correctly. Your sensei just explained what a drill is to you.

>>219315
situational throw

>>219318
>even though that's verbatim how they learned it
the argument is they didn't learn it that way
they learned the uchikomi which is wrong and then in order to actually do the throw you have to figure it out yourself later on to make it workable

how many times have you heard "this is the way you do it on a test, but this is how you'll do it in randori"
so why even show the test way if it doesn't work

>>219317
>maximum efficiency, minimal effort.

No one said learning judo is easy.
All these youtubers that are trying to be influencers and saying uchi komi doesnt work or we should get rid of randori(like what jimmy pedro is saying) should be ignored.
These are all essential elements to learning judo. They're one of the reasons why getting that sweet shiney shodan rank takss 5 years and not 10 like in bjj
like what this fucker in bjj is saying. (>>219036)

bjj isnt refined
there is no template cirriculum as their own major governing body is practically non existent.
Usa judo, usjf, usja and ijf as well as the kodokan all have their own cirriculum if you dont want to make your own and their own requirements. Because of all the refinement within the governing bodies and the sport itself it only takes 5 years to get your black belt.

People actually listen to the practicioners that care in Judo. It's not like bjj where people will only listen if you win.

>>219320
>how many times have you heard "this is the way you do it on a test, but this is how you'll do it in randori"

never because my instructor is a seasoned competitive veteran that's been doing it since leg grabs were a thing.
maybe you should go to a different school...?

>>219322
he even starts his instructions with
>in competition

>>219321
Unlike BJJ, there's actually a lot of sports science out there for judo - it's just in French, Russian, and Japanese.

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>>219368
as you can see from the bjj thread if you even attempt to talk about sports science you'll get labeled a schizo and shouted down for speaking against the infallible gracie methodology

>>219404
the trans gracie metod

i hate kata i hate kata i hate kata i hate kata

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tried out judo. pretty fun. reminds me a lot of dancing. not too sure if i do like it or it's because i had a good teacher showing me the basic stuff. only concerned about practicing because it takes me a while to understand and move my whole body at once. dont mind putting in the work, just need something like a doll or some shit that i can practice over and over again like a sperg.

>>219284
T. Peak soi scared to randori with the big boys so only tries to prey on the small twinks

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>>219431
>reminds me a lot of dancing

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>>219433
i dont really care who i do randori with.
Im a big dude, it takes a lot of force to hurt me, hard to move me too

>>219436
>im a big dude
holy larp

>>219438
can we not derail a thread on a decent board?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c-2mA6ke7rk

It's going down!

He won't show though

>>219455
what a faggot dude

>>219456
i dont understand why he is doing this. What is the point in all of this?

>>219457
Because we all agree that judo is in decline, Mostly that's due to the European sphere of influence

But this is just his way of trying to make it good again

>>219458
Then why not just give funding to dojos that need it? so they can keep the lights on and run promotions for their club?
Doing all of this makes no sense and just causes unnecessary drama

>>219459
It's martial arts and might makes right
All this talk and no action, just take it to the mat and let the people decide who they want to stand behind

>>219460
>It's martial arts and might makes right

if that's the case i hope shintari goes full unhinged and breaks hapans arm or something because this kiddy shit is tiring

>>219464
He can't if he wanted to, he's US national level which is the lowest piggu you can be
Even a smaller Olympic medalist is far above that level

>>219460
So if Shintaro wins we just keep learning the wrong way? Or shit, idk. Maybe it is the right way.
This is so retarded anyways. This is what the Olympics has turned Judo into, a bunch of people thinking they are flawless and can't take any real criticism, and when they do they start sperging HARD. Even some kids are like this, it's seen in all levels.
>>219431
Yes it will teach you to dance too. Judo got me laid indirectly because while I'm an autist I danced with a girl in a party instead of getting drunk in a corner
>>218857
Fuck the belts. Learn 3 throws, use them in randori and have fun.

>>219475
This
Even in the video you can tell Shintaro is in full damage control mode.
Judo has flushed all moral codes down the toilet for some fucking medals. Kano was right about the olympics all along.

>>219556
>So if Shintaro wins we just keep learning the wrong way?

why do you want judo to be like bjj so badly?
if you wanna drill one throw for ten minutes and rank based off of getting it right the first time in full force no holding back sparring why not just do bjj

>>219455
koreans aint shit
they couldnt even win their own war all the way
then their own governmwnr tried to enforce martial law and lost.
Top kek

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How would you use your judo to take down an armored knight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVLJ4NUQz6I
Feels to me like 4 guys could easily grapple a knight down and stab him through the visor.

>>219570
Polearm guy should have gone for a leg instead of the neck
taking him to the ground is priority one, you can't beat a knight standing

>>219568
They have the best girls though
I've sexpatted my way through the far east and laid all manner of gooks, chinks, japs, and seamonkeys
They are the best

>>219570
>How would you use your judo to take down an armored knight?
That's more or less what buhurt is.
>grapple a knight down and stab him through the visor
Go ask the HEMA guys about that, they'll have loads of material for you. >>>/xs/hema

>>219556
>This is what competition has turned Judo into
ftfy

>>219596
>>This is what the french has turned Judo into
Now you got it

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>>219600

>>219563
I didn't even imply that. But you just happen to be the best example of how Shintaro and his minions are in full damage control mode, complete with irrelevant fallacies.
>>219596
No. Competitions are still a part of Judo. Randori is collaborative, competition fighting is not. It's yet another way to test what you have learned. That doesn't mean we have to introduce a bunch of faggot rules.

>>219613
>But you just happen to be the best example of how Shintaro and his minions are in full damage control mode, complete with irrelevant fallacies.

touchè

>>219612
I've seen a weirdly disproportionate amount of jews in judo. Is that a thing or just my regional experience?

>>219627
it's in the name man

>>219627
There is this Muslim dad that told the fat old boomer sensei that his son is not allowed to bow during class because it's against their religion

And fat old boomer sensei was based and said okay then he can't do judo

>>219631
based

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>>219631
fundies iffy uh
kano got the stiffy uh

I'm probably doing it wrong but this feels so easy, even easier than osoto gari. Like I can just heave to one side and heave back, forcing all my body weight down and about 7/10 times I'll get them to fall

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>>219668
forgot pic

>>219668
Train with heavier and stronger people then. But shit if it works for you then it works for you.

>>217279
Could I, in theory, watch these videos and learn Judo decently? I just want to be able to perform a takedown if someone gets in my face and buy some time to run away. Some of the Judo takedowns I see on YouTube seem like they could send someone to the shadow realm.

>>219749
Depending on your autism, athletic intuition, and training resources you might be able to build a skill set well beyond that of the layperson, but it would really be more efficient and yield better results to have an actual practice partner if not an instructor.

>>217279
They're available on btdig too.

>>219749
Most likely no. Maybe some boxing can do the trick if you don't want to train with other people or can't afford to.
If you want to learn judo from the ground I recommend going to the kodokan's youtube channel.

>>219749
no, there are a lot of ways to inflict kuzushi on someone and the same way isnt gonna work on everyone which is why weight classes exist in fighting.
If you wanna use judo for self defense take classes.

>>219750
>>219770
>>219792
thanks anons. I might start combat sports if I ever get tired of Pickleball.

The judo subreddit is ironically better than this general for technique info. There are some real autists there who actually have the rank and experience.

>>219808
This is just a non serious forum dude
everyone in this thread likely uses reddit as well
there is even a thread discussing reddit
>>210677

>>219809
This place mostly exists to be unfiltered

>>217793
The only thing this video has showed me is that either the majority of people here and on reddit are children that believe anything anyone with big wins like happan would say or that they're retarded
because the requirements for entering the olympics are to enter(not even win) one other compeitition as all you need it competitive experience

>>219966
because the entire point of katas and uchi komis goes out peoples head as if they dont exist for a reason.
imagine only knowing 4 throws and being unable to complete your nage no kata in front of judges becuase a fucking korean told you to. imagine having ti learn a new throw at a white belt level as a black belt
because you never went through any kata. This entire video is silly

>>219967
not only that but when you ask any of them why they agree with happan it's usually a very childish retort. Like you'd have to be a genuine child or mentally disabled to not realize that the form is going to change in randori. of course an uchi mata isnt going to be a kata uchi mata in randori. Who said otherwise? no one

>>219969
the entire point of uchi komis and kata is to teach you the movement and kuzushi of the throw not how it's done in randori.

>>219971
and so that way when you do do it in randori you know how to do the movement. so if you escape an ogoshi you can do a left legged uchi mata, etc. because you know the core movement of uchi mata

>>219969
>>219971
spending years practicing something that doesn't work in practice is aikido tier. it's a disgrace for judo knowing the whole point of it was jigoro discarding all the ineffective shit from traditional jiu jitsu. hanpan is doing nothing wrong, he's just helping judokas save years of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NoHE1o380Y
look at him teaching a poor old fella who's been doing a useless osoto gari for 33 years because that's how they tell you to do it. is this what you want for judo? rigid, antiquated methods and judokas who realize their mistakes after a lifetime

I don't know anything about judo.
Tell me about uki otoshi. It looks like some Akido shit to an outsider.
Does it work? Does it come up often?

>>220027
It doesn't really come up often, and people don't really train it except for the kata to get their black belt, but the idea of cutting the corner and doing a wheel with your hands is a pretty fundamental thing.

We had a good laugh today when I fit into uchimata 3 times with an upward pull and then when I did it on the 4th I pulled down

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>>220027
>Tell me about uki otoshi
>Does it work?
Yes.

>Does it come up often?
No, it's fairly uncommon. It's very timing/momentum reliant, more-so than other throws.

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So what's a good way to learn and practice if I'm a slow retarded sperg that needs to go over and over again until it clicks?

>>220099
Uchi komis are literally just drills where you dont execute the throw completely
so that.

you literally learn this in class

>>220106
i forget a lot of teenagers use this website so they straight up dont listen to their instructor

>>215864
Hey faggot OP, the old thread just now died. Wait a little longer before making the next one and actually link to the new thread from the old thread this time.

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>>220131

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>>220131
Why are you, and you only, the one who gets so ass-blasted by there being two threads up at the same time? It's not like the old one is gonna get bumped and you won't be able to find this one.

>>220137
>too lazy to fix the number
not worried about it

>>220148
I'm not the guy who called OP a faggot in the last thread, just the guy calling OP a faggot in this thread. The issue is that it splits the discussion into two threads and prematurely kills the discussion of topics in the old thread.

>>220210
im not fixing the number on purpose.
Any newfag that comes to this thread needs to figure out the reference.
We need inside jokes. liven up the thread a ligtle

>>220210
it doesnt
you can just cross thread. like so >>218323 in a new thread.
main problem starts is that some people dont obessively memorize or remember what they posted.
but it'll continue the discussion

>>220212
>main problem starts is that some people dont obessively memorize or remember what they posted.
Correct. A problem that is largely averted when you keep the discussion in one thread.