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Who wins in an arm wrestle, Grace or Nanase?
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btw I decided to continue the tabletop game rather than go back to Diane's story today
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Base Forms, Nanase.
It gets more complicated with Grace's various transformations but I think Jeremy Form and Horned form would win clean.
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Going by the back cover, it's either 4 or 5e, but I don't have a 3.5 book on hand to compare them, grognard Elliot may yet be a reality.
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>>150190059
>When your artist bro is drawing in the back of the classroom making the goofiest faces
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No! I play the same class as Rich, no!
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>>150190092
>no plot survives contact with the PCs.
Hey has Ellen shown the requisite knowledge that you'll stop screaming about Elliot being a Normie that's never played D&D?
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>>150190161
I played with several GM's and none of them would let you play a different sex from your own, if they did not think you where good enough to pull it off.
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>>150190140
If thos wasn't a storutime I would post that Ackward zombie comic about faces.
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That's funny one time, George
Please don't make it a habit
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Ellen is now officially better at running games than most Adventurer's League DMs, fuck me running.
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>>150189891
Griffins being described as cats and/or birds is a good joke, it's just unfortunate that it's buried so deep in that text block.
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>>150190373
>Roll Save Against Genderbend Breath Weapon..
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I warned you about those stairs bro
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>>150190447
>See, the nose shape is different
>Ellen's brows are thicker
>and the colored parts of the eyes are different
>Pretty Sure Nanase is wearing Genderbent Elliot's shirt for some reason you can't tell me they're samefacing
>come on guys!
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omg, Dan locking in exactly onto playerthink
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>Justin: HALLELUJAH!
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Any properly run DnD session should double as a therapy session
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>>150189945
What about telekinesis though? Can she do both at once?
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>>150190211
Yes, but George is very tall.
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And The Shive, pacified, and made safe another character. All will be one mind, one voice, one personality, all will be The Shive
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Bro sees introspection and personal growth and thinks it's got to be the work of an Eldritch Horror.
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>>150190767
All of egs is just characters losing what made them unique and different, and turning them into just another Avatar of Dan.
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Oh, no. I'm Larry.
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>>150190900
I have never seen anybody get properly into character with less then a at least half a year of playing.
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>>150190885
>Using Rope as a class related skill
It's 3.5
IT'S 3.5!
ELLIOT IS A GROGNARD!
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>>150190935
Hey now, no one's a grognard until they say old good new bad
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Non-lethal damage is something my former DMs have struggled with
One time my barbarian punched eight guards to death in a row
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>You're a Rogue.
>You're a Paladin!
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I can think of zero scenes with either Larry or you at the school. I get your dumb but this level of stupidity is unbelievable.
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The evil of ANCIENT EGYPT
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This is a fun check for players actually
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>>150191186
Dan was been watching Linkara videos around then.
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I was picturing something like Rich's
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It keeps happening!
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>>150191204
A medieval chicken would look nothing like modern chickens.

Modern chickens where the result of a concerted effort in the early 1900s, to crossbreed all the different types of chickens into one super, egg laying, meat amount, meat taste, and even making it so males have a single feather longer then the rest at birth so they can be separated.

Medieval chickens would look wildly different depending on their type and what they where breed for.
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Also, New World crops are forbidden!
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Ive never actually seen someone fuck up playing the opposite gender before. I dont think it happens as much as people expect

Well, i did make a twi-lek smuggler once who got a bunch of shocked "wait, you're playing a girl?" Reactions at about session 3, but thats probably on me for not making it part of the character. Ironic given that i spent the whole time trying to handcuff people, but smugglers get fuck all gear. Its my one toy and im using them damn it!
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BRILLIANT!
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So, George helping Ellen with the rules actually happened.
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>Marik The Cleric
Fuck it hurts when that happens.
Bernard the Guard was a personal low point for me.
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Show of hands right now
How many of you had a goblin for a team mascot that your party kidnapped/adopted
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Is nanase playing a mundane character a microagression?
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On the one hand, there's an obvious joke in Maribel being identical to the Fake One in the cage.
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On the other hand..
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The weird part to me is that she apparently doesnt know uroyimocco yet. Its a free language proficiency and somehow noone has bothered to teach her. Even stranger, it means elliot probably never taught ellen, AND she didnt pick it up from the multiple uroyims at her dream school
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Rich, no!
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Getting out of your head actually helps you get into your head more objectively, it's like one of those paradox things.
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That was a fun little adventure, good job Dan
Tomorrow we head back to Diane's drama with her father

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But Elliot, what if you actually see something?
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What's "taters" precious?
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>>150191624
I could see AU Ellen never thinking to ask someone to "teach" her.
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If this was a Cat, Marik the Cleric would be dead.
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>>150191624
I forgot that Elliot knew alienese
But I also doubt I'm the only one
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>>150191125
Ellen and Nanase sparing well that never happened the 56th. To bad to, it would be a perfect opportunity to showcase Ellen's beam spells

>>150191579
Follow up game, Well that never happened the 57th. Even if it would star the 3 least interesting characters.
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No. It was a Kobold.
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>Well that never happened
In the..two years since it was posted.
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>That was a fun little adventure, good job Dan
Nah, it was a lot of what's wrong with current EGS. It went on forever, wasn't interesting, wasn't that entertaining, strawmanned gender bullshit Dan got from whateve social media hellhole he frequents but all of it done in the most boring way possible to try not to offend anyone.
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Oh also, Dan just using the comic to comment on games he's into but replacing the characters with the EGS ones.
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>>150190656
Because larry is hot? We all know it, Its not weird if its true
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>>150190935
We dont know that! It could just be naturally high dex or expertise
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>>150191721
It was fun. Better than the card games especially.
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>>150190999
Only melee strikes can be nonlethal. Magic is always a killshot
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Being uncertain whether or not it's a d20 for initiative is an argument in favor of Elliot originally playing 2e or earlier.
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>But Elliot, what if you actually see something?

>You're in an alley, being held at knife point
>This guy has no pants on, and clearly intends to rape you
>Suddenly, you look up and see a local super heroine flying by
>Relief floods through your body
>Your eyes meet
>And she flies away
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Yeah but... still. Actually over 5000 years im shocked it isnt common. You'd think everyone would speak it for the convenience
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>>150191539
Ive done a donkey. RIP maplehoof...
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>>150191539
I accidently left a drow twink NPC unattended and the party fighter was played by a woman.
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>Hold Person
>Entangle
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>Summon Clown IV
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>Summon Clown IV
>Not a killshot
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>>150193203
That opens up the hysterical possibility that Elliot and Ellen can calculate THAC0.
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>>150193729
THAC0 is ungainly and counterintuitive, but it's not by any means difficult.

It's good modern versions don't use it, but it wasn't as bad as people pretend it was.
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Wasn't this comic about transformations and clones and aliens and furries with DragonBall Z powers when it started? How did it become people sitting around playing D&D?
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Anything over Summon Clown II is practically guaranteed lethality.

Hell the Summon Clown III options are-
>Ghost Clown
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A enemy isn't surviving any of those without some kind of protection like an Amulet of Clown Repulsion.
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Dan will make up any excuse possible not to develop characters or the plot, only when he has exhausted all other options will he progress the story
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You're not summoning 4th (or 3rd honestly) level clown you maniac, you're summoning first level clowns and trading the level for more dice to summon. 4d4 Clowns out on the field, throwing pies, tripping into enemies, interrupting spell casting with HONK, it's pure mayhem but it won't kill anything at level.
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That actually is pretty screwy. Chalk it up to the perils of retroactive continuity, I suppose.
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Lagnuege classes in a world with open presences of Umocrons would take 5 seconds and give you native level skill.
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I remember reading EGS 20 years ago and thinking to myself, "This Lord Tedd guy seems cool, I hope Dan gets back to him soon."
Imagine how much I'm laughing at my old self right now.
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>>150193629
Okay sure but none of those do damage except the clown, and its (technically) making melee attacks with its disgusting clown fingers
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It would solve the weirdness with heads-earthers speaking english too. If everyone was actually unknowingly speaking uroyimocco that whole bit of strangeness disappears
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>>150190172
Well, no because it' ambiguous for Elliot to be aware of that. His favorite movie was: "Dragonheart, but with an alcoholic" however, he's still a normie jock type on top of it.
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Oh, come now, Daniel.
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Ellen is textually referring back to Elliot's experiences playing in Junior High, before she existed as an entity in of herself.
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That's interesting.
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Kind of wild seeing Ellen have a flashback to her real childhood.
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O.K. that got a snort out of me. They're such nerds lmao
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>>150191698
I know the cast is bloated, but I would be super down with this. While we run the risk of George getting Shived, if he didn't his sardonic wit would really balance out the cast who've all turned into middle school girls who act like the baby looney tunes
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>>150191721
I can't remember what happens but it's obscene that we're going to have a whole arc about Diane dealing with her Father drama and still somehow not meet or interact with him in any way

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Ellen and Nanase sparring would actually solve a lot of problems.
1. More anime fights
2. More reasons for their magic to get shown off AND level up
3. More fanservice (I don't see why they wouldn't have the same makeout rule she had with Elliot)
4. An excuse to have Ellen and Nanase DO SOMETHING
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>>150192191
While I did enjoy it, and it is better than card games, you are right because ultimately it's just filler. I'm super down for filler and slice of life/iyashekei content but when they plot is as stifled and meandering as EGS's has been, it needs to be treated a bit more critically. If we were still clipping along like Goo-Birthday Party did then I'd say, heck yeah, why not take a breather and have some filler every once in awhile, but we've been taking a breather for like ten years.
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Yes, I don't feel there are enough indicators to make it in-character for Elliot to have DM'd D&D campaigns with Tedd in which he wasn't twisting his arm to do it, and I really don't think Sarah would've done it even if she was crushing on Elliot and wanted to hangout with him.

It would've made more sense if Ellen played the game with Kaoli in the other dimension, but then we'd lose the bit about her reconnecting with/reclaiming a part of her past that she gave up when she accepted she wasn't Elliot anymore.
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I went with the assumption Ellen played D&D in her weird alternate universe memory thing
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Stupid as it sounds, I will never forgive Dan for outgrowing the anime fighting before
1.Letting Elliot fire off a Hadouken
2.Letting Elliot succumb to his evil side to unlock an Akuma-esque Raging Demon super with gender bending
Tamashii Gekido or whatever it was called was the closest thing we got and it went nowhere.
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In 20 years of playing RPGs with multiple DMs and numerous players I think I can count on the finger of one hands the time I have seen "a male/female character" compared to "a character that happen to be male/female". 90% of the time the sex of the character is chosen as a purely aesthetic choice and 9% because of in setting reasons (for example this order is made only of females)
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>>150197025
Saying this in a shive thread might bring a pharohs curse down upon me, but i just dont care about gender shit. I dont want to explore gender roles and i definitely dont want to hit on guys or have to look for a husband, if i wanted that id go outside
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>>150196261
Reading the gray comic it always surprise me how colorful the hair is.
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>>150193242
And then you turn into a super villain.
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>>150191229
>Linkara
That explains some things.
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>>150196213
I know it's common to cast Sarah as "the girl" in a lot of cases, but between the three of them she might be the biggest fantasy nerd
And we saw during the card game tournament that she's ready, willing, and able to construct a fantasy narrative
I think she would have been happy to play, assuming she wasn't the one to propose it in the first place
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If we got moments like this before Magus I could see his pov instead of his sounding like s schizo.
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Therapy session aside, this was one of the best representations of playing and GMing RPG I ever saw in a comic.

I agree with the dude that said that, as fun as this was, the entire arc is filler tho. So I reinforce what I mentioned last thread:

Dan should have ended EGS years ago, and made a low stake comic about fat guys playing RPG. It even gives him reason to have harmless transformations scenarios.
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>>150196269
Not to be a jerk but this looks AI stiff.
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Well yeah it's filler
It's EGS: NP, it's where filler goes
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>>150198215
I get what you mean buy the main comic already has filler, so this is filler on top of filler.
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>>150197804
Dan’s work has been stiff as fuck ever since he started relying on CG models for everything
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>>150196126
>Ellen and Nanase sparring would actually solve a lot of problems.

Just having general spars between the characters would also be great in general. It something members of both the North and South cast both do, so no need to contrive a reason for them all to meet at Tedd's basement for the 50th time. They can talk about things, and showcase their powers as the same time. And it a chance for Dan to practice actions scenes, without it being plot relevant..

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I can see Sarah wanting to play and even be willing to GM a RPG, I can even see Elliot and Tedd going along with Sarah. I cannot see any version of Elliot, randomly picking up a RPG and starting to run it..
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>>150198352
I still assume it was Tedd’s idea.
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>>150198352
If only there was some kind of Dojo where they could spar with their anime style powers.
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>I cannot see any version of Elliot, randomly picking up a RPG and starting to run it..
Agreed
Actually, Elliot kind of sticks out of the main group. Tedd, Sarah, Justin, Susan... they're all various flavors of nerd.
And Elliot's a jock. Who met all his friend's (Tedd, Justin, Noah) by doing jock stuff
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>>150198906
Well Sarah and Elliot only really know each other because they lived near each other, since it stated they have known each other since they where kids.

Elliot meet Tedd at the earliest in middle school. Susan is Sarah's friend Elliot does have a notable friendship with Susan until they started movie reviews.
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There was one, but it closed
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I specified those three since they were friends Elliot made himself and not introduced to him or friends of friends
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>>150201063
You guys are severely overthinking this "but if sportsguy, how D&D?" Because, while Rich or George fit the popular image of a fa/tg/uy, they run the gamut, especially once LARPing enters the chat.
In Elliot's case It's pretty simple, Tedd gets the game, maybe from Edward trying to get him to come out of his shell as it's a social game, Tedd invites the only two people he knows to play it with him, acts the dipshit, starts magical realming, gets hammered by Sarah, Elliot tries to keep the peace between his sole two friends by now by volunteering to take over as DM. Simple.
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I question Justin him and Elliot never really hang out without some other factor in play. Part of that is different schools, but apart from the dojo they never seemed to interact anywhere else. They basically only see each other at Tedds magic basement. And after the Dojo closed down they have had one meeting at the comic shop, and the rest was all at the Magic basement.

For Noah at least Elliot activly wanted to spend time with enough to make plans to shoot some hoops.

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Dan's commentary make it clear is was indeed Elliot that started them on the game.
Which even a minor bit of RPG gaming would several orders of magnitude more exposure to nerd culture then Elliot lack on knowledge could justify.
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>>150202241
He never read a Superman comic, so he can't have ever played RPGs. Is that what you're getting at?
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>>150191670
Now that I think about it, Why wouldn't Elliot become a vigilante?
>has a danger sense, knows when bad things are going down
>can't sit idly by when evil's afoot
>has become disillusioned with the police and authority in general
>has super powers
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>>150203582
Just reading an RPG book particularity in those days would give someone a greater basis and knowledge pool then Elliot has ever show. Hell been zero indiction that Elliot even watched cartoons, and he grew up in the age of the animated Superman show.
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Magic in egs seems really really bad at punching people. I highly doubt that even with his superhero spell he could handle being shot at. And defintly no chance is someone has a higher caliber bullet.
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>>150204238
Comicbooks and RPGs were largely different communities in the 90s and have ever had differeing barriers of entry, heck the high barrier of entry for comics fandom is one reason why /co/ was the nice friendly board in the days before 4chan's angry monoculture and why recc threads are still assaulted by angry autists to this day.
And Moperville is a small podunk mostly white town that abuts a bunch of rural infrastructure, that's prime RPG territory.
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Back to school time

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Yeah, either Awareness needs to be up to Spider-Man/Daredevil levels, or Endurance or Resistance enough to make him bulletproof
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Getting dabbed on by nerds
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>tfw No Tall GF who wears a studded collar and matching belt and armlet(?) out in public.
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At this point, Dan is mocking CountAnon.
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>>150204500
I doubt anything less then stat in the 10+ range would be enough. And their is still the issue of someone just bringing a bigger gun.

We did see what it takes to knock down a big griffin, and that probably about on par with a large bull. Impressive in raw strength feat, but a single well aimed bullet is still better.
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Confirmation I was right!
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You are giving Guns more power than they generally have in any given Superhero story. And also weirdly trying to downplay the fighting prowess of Fireball Slinging Catbirds, when IRL we've SEEN what happens to Big Game Hunters when they get within swiping distance of regular ass Leopards on liveleak.
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>We will all be liberated by the Master of Fire
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This is probably triple or more the screen time Noah's had in the last 10 years
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>Weasel-Chicken
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Yet, brb getting an Alien Egg and a weasel and chicken.
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>Alien
Come on, anon, we know that's a misnomer
Do better
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Cute nurse
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>>150204732
egs is not a superhero story anymore, also the Boar was about twice the big griffins, bigger then a fully grown grizzly bear, you know the bears famous to tanking dozens of shots from 1700s guns. And the boar which was bigger then that still died to a single shotgun blast to the face.

Modern guns are an several orders of magnitude more powerful then they where even a century ago. Their a reason all comic book character are either tough enough to tank them, or able to aim dodge them, anything less then 100% immunity to a modern bullet is basically instant death.
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>egs is not a superhero story anymore
They're not much better in Urban Fantasy with a Dash of Sci-Fi stories. I'll grant though, I'd have to see Cheerleadra in Action to see how bulletproof she is, though Dan's pretty damn adverse to that level of violence so I'm not holding my breath.
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This is why Diane hates nerds.
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>>150204726
Well this is very dumb, the antenna are only for greater chimeras. The ones that can gain transformations from a cosmetic morphing device. The only reason for Noah to be sporting the antenna full time is if he was never exposed to one. Even if he lacks Graces Lepsko dna which allows for mix and matching of forms.

A form that is just him without the antenna should be easy to make, even for a lesser morphing device, then the TG gun.

Given that Raven should know that Chimera's morphing ablities cause pain until exposure to a CMD. The fact that Noah keeps his antenna out full time is kind of damming evidence of Ravens usefulness..
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Are you willing to go on dates with Susan with the complete denial of physical intimacy in order to prevent her from being a spinster?
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Cute invisible dork.
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>NOAH NO YOUR LEGS!!!
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$10,000 Blockbuster. You could've saved us all, for 10,000 lousy dollars! YOU ROTTEN FUCKS!
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>>150204982
The last person who pointed a gun at someone in EGS got most of his kind magically deleted for it.
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>>150204956
The problem is that Dan has a severe case of same face syndrome, so you can only really recognize the characters by their hairstyles, so if you change the hairstyle too much it's hard to read them as the same person anymore, even if both versions of the character are in the same panel such as this.
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I'm so interested in this storyline and FURIOUS that Dan has done NOTHING with it!
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This explains you
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Looks like both Noah and Tedd are getting new moms.
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Mazel Tov!
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>>150204814
Maybe is just me but I knew my biological dad I never actually met had an adopted kid, I wouldn't be that attached to them right away.
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The closest thing we had to an actual fight with Cheerleadra was the fight with the griffin and even that is murky by the griffin saying he was fighting with only 10% of his true power.
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That is a deep cut for a teen in...check date...2023.
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>>150205591
>A University that is that vehement against raising tuition
I'd fight an army of catbirds and Jeremy form Graces for this institution.
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>>150205023
When something doesn't make sense an Alien Wizard did it.
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>>150205818
>sorry ashley im trading you in for a more plot-relevant, higher performance asian
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>>150205515
He was Dilbert the entire time?!
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The accessories are doing a lot
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>>150205128
Its been how many years 1, 2 decades?
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>>150205651
Another tally in the "She's a witch" column.
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I wasn't exactly counting pages today but now seems about right to call it
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>>150205733
Fellas how do you deal with your bros constantly talking about how cute you are?
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>>150205256
These are actually normal, human feelings, Susan. As a member of the EGS cast, I can understand why they feel alien and confusing to you. However, I expect Dan provided a five paragraph explanation for why you're feeling like this.
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>>150205349
Tedd dad is the funniest.
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>>150204836
Which is infinitely more than Melissa, his (apparent) girlfriend has had in the last 15 or whenever the dragon fight was.
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>>150205551
I want this.
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I would like to propose the final decay state of EGS
>elliot's harem
Tedd, noah, susan, justin
>grace harem
Ashley, sarah, sam and luke to i guess
>dianne harem
Dianne's gf, rhonda, catalina
>mr verrez's harem
Lavender, mr raven, abraham, vladina
>misc
George and tensaid get married
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>>150205339
Cranium hasn't shown up for real in an actual story comic since 2013. I really feel like Dan does not like Sarah.
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>>150205839
This is almost exactly the hair he started with. We've come full circle, he is just kind of a faggot about it now.

He was a faggot about it back then too.
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>>150205836
kek
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>>150206083
She quit apparently according to what the (secretary/aide?) says to Arthur here >>150205622
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>>150205528
>>150205541
>>150205551
I can see now why she wanted the bimbo spell.
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>>150206202
>Sarah wants magic, gets magic but it's a power that has no real use and is never used anyway
>No longer Elliot's girlfriend, her position and natural story with the wand having been usurped by Ashley Sue
>Has a sister who's a reporter which means she's a natural character to use for digging deeper on magic but she never shows up
>Implied that Cranium is a relative of hers and Cranium is just offhandedly mentioned as having quit so we'll likely never see her again
This is honestly ridiculous.
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>>150206251
She was dating Wolf and he's still around as of 2023.
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>>150205642
So far the comic is picking up it pace again. I'm liking this but I don't want to jinx it.
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>>150206317
Are you ready for another CARD GAME ARC!?
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>>150206317
Never mind it started to do word salads again >>150205747
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>>150205808
This school is too nice, everyone got Shived.
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>>150205818
Before I was saving out of context panels, now I'm saving entire pages
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>>150205822
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't his just his old, way old hairstyle slightly shorter?
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>>150205923
Thanks, Magister, So far the comic is picking up pace or maybe pacing itself better? either way I'm liking this shorter more manageable stories.
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>>150196261
>>150196269
Oh, that's what those were about. I know Dan tries to stick to grayscale but II think this one would've benefited from being colored.
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>>150197096
I feel the same way. In the past I feel like it was neat because I was an adolescent and hadn't much experience with girls so it was relevant to my burgeoning interests and growing understanding of the wider world, but nowadays it wouldn't interest me that much and I know most people would have bad takes for performative reasons.

Game wise, I think I'd only be interested in playing a female character if I wanted to make seduction/manipulation a staple or if I wanted to RP as an Azula/Larxene type character.
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>>150198350
Sure but the kind of flat face and doll like stare makes it more artificial.
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>>150197367
That is a good point. I guess I'm going based more off the dynamic they seemed to have in the early issues (pre-Goo and Goo) in which it seemed like she was more begrudginly dealing with their male antics, but I could see Sarah getting into it based on her desire to be a Wizard and Fairy deck storyline. Now that I think of it, she kind of reminds me of a girl I used to go to school with that was really into fairies and who used to talk about Inuyasha with me at lunch.
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>>150190211
>>150191340
>>150197025

Do you think Dan is the kind of person that question people playing as female avatars?
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>>150197804
>>150206638
I get it. I'm a novice drawer myself and could see this unintentionally happening to me when my art starts to look: "Good enough"

He needs to focus on some gesture exercises and get away from the models. Though I get how they help in this scenario since he has to make the comic and it's his primary income. I feel like with how slow it updates, though, he could easily just put EGS: NP, the sketchbook, and his social media shenanigans on hiatus and focus on drawing and he'd be able to easily do it, though. I can only have so much sympathy when he's admitted to logging something simply obscene like nearly a decade's worth of time on Skyrim and is on his 50th playthrough with an army of mods (some custom.) I feel like he "has time."
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>>150198215
You've got me there. I will give it a pass.
>>150198232
This is true, too, though. He's got to yoink the filler from the main comic. Again, I like SoC, filler, and stuff like that but he needs to balance it a lot better, and having NP running concurrently really leaves no excuse. We're approaching the last six seasons of Shippuden levels of bad.
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>>150200509
Elementary. You don't have playground recess in Middle School and that's specifically how they met.
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>>150198906
It's really weird he doesn't play a sport. It could be cool to see him and Noah on the basketball team (though they're graduating now, so probably not.)
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>>150202241
You'd think he would hangout with Justin, but since he's more Nanase's bestie maybe he saw him as more his GF's friend? Now that his sister is dating Nanase, though, and all that's happened you'd think it would happen.
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>>150203582
It's clearly a retcon, Anon. I don't want to be a dick about it but this was established in his interview with Tensaided for the video store where he specifically asks him about it. I know you COULD cling to the thought that he was just nervous, but contextually there's no reason he wouldn't have brought up that he DM'd Dungeons and Dragons regularly just a couple years ago when the whole point of the interview was trying to establish he had "nerd cred."

The interview also established:
> Elliot has never seen The Matrix
> Elliot isn't aware there's more than one Star Wars movie
> He plays video games so infrequently he can't even emember the names of the ones he has played because he only plays co-op at Tedd's house with games Tedd already owns ( which seems to contradict the cheat code flashack, but I can buy that he had a random cheap video game as a kid. Even the kids who thought video games were cringe at my school growing up usually still had Guitar Hero or a random Pokemon game, for example)
> He's watched some animes, but none that anyone who likes anime would think were cool
> He doesn't watch newly released movies or pay attention to pop culture

It doesn't make sense. Dan just wanted to do a D&D story and wanted to do an Ellen story and didn't realize it was going to be OOC for Elliot to have previously DM'd a campaign.
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>>150204036
It makes all of the sense, but I think Dan didn't think Edward's superiors would allow it.
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>>150204500
>>150204692
Guys, it's EGS. Dan would just have magic make everyone not be able to get hurt by guns by default because that's scary and mean.
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>>150204564
SUCK A DICK COME ON
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>>150206796
Elliot tends to treat Justin as like puppy to throw a bone once in a while.
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>>150204726
Oh, I forgot this happened, and that Noah and Diane met.

It's quite sad that this got dropped for so long I literally forgot it even occurred.
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>>150204807
SPANK HIM, DIANE! YOU'RE THE BOSS, NOW!
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>>150205582
It depends on the circumstance, but if I found out I had a secret little sister that looked like me I think I would be.
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>>150204894
Oh, so that was when Hope debuted.
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>>150205339
Same! I was pumped for it and then completely forgot it existed because this is the last it's ever mentioned.

Good thing we got to see Hope play Magic the Gathering, though!
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>>150206976
Personal question, did you remember your Jr High Hobbies throughout the last year of High School?
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>>150205226
Fuck me man, this is exactly how I felt getting ready for college AND getting ready for graduating college.
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>>150205349
This did not need a month when you already have a much better explanation incoming.
>>150205433
Given you hate Arthur why not just make it something you figured out independently after reviewing known immortal behavior. And keep Susan out of Arthur's interest.
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>>150207304
At least it triggers a fairly decent lore dump about Pandora's past.
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>>150205591
> You'd think it was MY fault inflation exists
> Says the Government
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>>150205681
Technically it's 2003, but we're actually pretending it's just: YEAR
>>150205733
Susan is TALL
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>>150205747
None of this was necessary
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>>150205761
THE GOONS
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>>150206405
In a way, it's explicitly cosmic horror because everyone's identity was eroded to such a point that they're literally all featureless puppets that exist to espouse it's will.
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>>150207816
You asked for them and now here they are!
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>>150207796
Bullshit, they have smartphones its not 2003 no more.
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>>150207809
The comic's tagline
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>>150207839
You've seen those thread where someone takes "current twitter comic" and they cut panels to supposedly make the comic better? I think some valiant could fix this comic if they removed pages and panels to make the comic half as long.
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>>150207419
Yeah, why wouldn't I? It was like 3-4 years beforehand. I remember what I liked to do in Junior High now, as an adult.
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>>150207529
KEK amazing

Which one? I need to find more EGS lewds
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>>150207859
They 100% could. I kind of want to, but don't know if I can commit to such a timesink. Maybe one day, when I get better at drawing if I have nothing else to do because it could be fun to make like an EGS: Abridged series. Though, I fear that affect Dan in a way I wouldn't want to because I do like him.
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>>150207529
Found this in the archive (Fanon context in file name)
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>>150207896
https://rule34.xxx founds some lewd fan comics in sadpanda as well
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>>150207911
Yeah, reading it here is already as convenient as it goes and even then is a huge time spend just reading let alone doing any kind of cutting.
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>>150207882
I didn't. Forgot all about them, mostly because High School and adulthood didn't exactly provide an environment to indulge in them, then while playing with my niece one fine afternoon, we started doing something similar and came back to me a little, then a lot. Memory is weird that way.
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>>150207960
Nice, TY

Also, if any Anons are interested or unaware there used to be a lot fo EGSS generals on /aco/ back in the day:

https://desuarchive.org/aco/search/subject/%2Fegs%2F/
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>>150208022
I guess people are different. I will admit I often mention things from a long time ago and "unlock memories" for other people.

I remember things that happened all the way back to being 2 years old. They're obviously vaguer and more spotty, but I do remember certain moments very clearly and can transport myself back to almost like I'm reliving the moment if I concentrate.
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>>150208028
That surprising, as horny as this comic thinks it is its really feels quite sexless.
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>>150159134
Two days later but I finally realized what this reminded me off.
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>>150205433
>How powerful are most immortals?
That's actually weaker than I thought they were.
His comment about arrogance makes me think that a human magic user fighting an Immortal is roughly equivalent to a random person off the street fist-fighting Muhammad Ali, whereas before this I thought that matchup was closer to a random person off the street fist-fighting an elephant.
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>>150208070
If that was wrong answers only...then that means they fucking?
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>>150205128
>Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico
Pack it up. Magus got run over by a speeding driver.
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>>150208679
Haha, dark.
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>>150207786
Magic police are an off the books black-budget program. Arthur is funded by selling tf guns to terrorists and distributing shrink-sodas in black neighbourhoods.
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>>150204726
Well that sounds ominous.
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>>150205183
>>150205192
Even dream Sarah is horny.
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>>150209717
They probably nearly break even just selling all that crack to the inner-city leprechauns.
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>>150205226
Damn
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>>150205275
Cute
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>>150209892
>>150204805
The master of fire is Damien, Noah’s parents were Damien cultists
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>>150210029
no.
well- not "no they arent cultists" (because they still might be) but "no, Damien isnt the master of fire". The prophecy predates him, and note:
https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2004-03-03
>unite seyonolus
>being of power
>master of fire

damien was made by accelerationists to meet the criteria of the prophecy. but who IS ideally positioned to unite people, IS "ridiculously powerful" and HAS demonstrated objective mastery not of, but over fire?
grace

but regardless, the parents could be perfectly normal prophecy-following wierdos who have nothing to do with Damien.
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>>150210135
So who is the 'master of fire', Justin?
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>>150205183
The shitposting I've done in these EGS threads would revert her back to hating all men.
No big loss, though. /co/s before hoes
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>>150210135
When did Grace show a mastery of fire? I'm sure it happened but I just don't remember
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>>150204726
I actually just realized this is Noah's Mom (or Dad I guess based on what he says later) I always thought it was Pandora for some reason.
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>>150208454
I think the idea was before he could say he was stronger because the imortals couldn't do jack without breaking the rules. Now he better shut up or an inmortal coukd fight him for real.
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>>150210472
No, its grace. She mastered fire metaphoricallly by clowning on damien, who embodied fire. The suicide explosion is a metaphor on two levels. Superficially he wasnt master of fire because he died in a fire, but also he embodied fire, and died when he lost control, because he was not master of himself

I just realized you're probably joking since its such a heavy handed metaphor, in which case its raven
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>>150209717
They are the FBI not the CIA
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>>150210627
But grace disn't master fire
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>>150205160
If Dan had ball Susan's pent up frustration would make her do something stupid like cheating with Elliot. Going full circle tyrning her in what she hated.
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>>150210665
Its a vague and intentionally non-literal prophecy, whith multiple translations so you cant assume definitions will match exactly. you have to look at more complex meanings.
To be a master of something means to own or control it, but if you have a master's degree for instance you are an expert at something. You can also master something by defeating it, if you master a rival, or by overcoming some trial if you master a mountain by climbing it

Damien was the fire, and grace mastered him. Shes also fireproof so she has mastered fire through immunity
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>>150210683
That's a damn good idea
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>>150204726
>we will all be liberated by THE SHIVE
Fixed
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>>150210706
Running away from a bomb is not mastery in anything specially when some third party from another world save you ass from the explosion.
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>>150210932
if grace didnt win legitimately damien should demand a rematch
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>>150206666
I think he's making it a big deal than it actually is, regardless of being in favour or not
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>>150206976
The arstyle peaked here.
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>>150210706
Doesn't it seem more likely that the prophecy is about someone else, and that Damien was a false positive? Its why he was so obsessed with the idea of his own godhood, because he was trying to be something he was not based on what he had been told.

Damien was (apparently) quite strong. So if he was the semi-perfect Master of Fire, then Perfect Master of Fire is still coming down the pipeline in the current story.
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What if it were El Ganesh Shive?
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So, its been ages since I read through these arcs as they were coming out, but I *think* that with the exception one one insufferable card game arc we are over the hump. We are past the worst of the "nothing fucking happens and people just talk about their feelings in Tedd's basement" stuff. At the very least, the worst examples of it that I can remember have already happened.
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>>150210135
No it was confirmed forever ago Noah's parents were Damien cultists, his parents (or at least his dad I forget if the mom died earlier) was killed by Damien when he massacres all the researchers and cultists who created him. That's why he wanted revenge on Damien.
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>>150206666
>>150211268
The funny thing is, both sides of the argument end up saying the same thing for different reasons, one side says "You play as a girl you must be some Tranny" while the other says "you play as a girl you are an egg" Neither side wants to consider some people just do it for frivolous reasons like looks.
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>>150211535
It only seem to move fast because it was mostly Diane on panel who being the newest character still has the most personality of the cast, but even she took about 2 months longer to talk to Noah then needed.
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>>150204917
For such a fail moment for Raven, Dan sure seems to love it. Probably because it was the last vestige gasp of drama in the story. Thou as I have pointed out Raven with his many advantages should be a good 6-8 times more powerful then Abraham, an impossible gap to bridge without severe situational modifiers, which did not exist, and instead where boosting Raven. Which makes Raven losing like he did even more proof of his uselessness, since the only way for him to be that weak is if he has activly trained magic for less then 100 years.
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>>150211801
Considering that Tedd's dad seemed to think that he could take an immortal in a fight if he really needed to, I think you might just be blatantly overvaluing Raven's magical ability.
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>>150204521
On panel parents, for Dianae
Well that never happened the 58th
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>>150205128
The search team finding and confronting Magus
Well that never happened the 59th

Vladia asking Raven out on a date
Well that never happened the 60th
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>>150205057
Raven getting a new job at the university
Well that never happened the 61th

>>150205642
Tensaided getting a new job at the university
Well that never happened the 62th

>>150205839
Whatever is going with those accessories
Well that never happened the 63th
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>>150211950
>>150211959
Real CinemaSins hours
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>>150211821
Not really, how magic works in egs is you get both more magical power, and spells the more you use magic. Raven with several hundred years on Abraham should easily be able to just spam save or die attacks, against someone with a mere 5-7 decades of magical practice. They are both wizards, so it comes down to who had the better spells, and magical power to keep casting longer. Not to mention that Raven had the benefit of being half immortal, and the advatage of having prepared the battlefield ahead of time.

Raven should at minimum have at least 3 times the magical energy that Abraham does, and have the benefit of collecting spells for much longer as well.
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>>150212010
Your argument is based on a lot of assumptions, including a lack of upper limit.
Is a person that works out stronger than a couch potato? Yes, obviously.
Is a person that has been working out for 20 years 4 times the strength of someone who has been working out for 5 years? No. Thats absurd, there are both limits to how much muscle you can realistically put on and vast differences in what "working out" even means with different goals in mind.

Unless you can point to anything that claims that magical potential scales infinitely, there are logically limits to how strong you can get even over time. Unless you can point to Raven having specifically spent his long lifespan training like Goku, you have no reason to believe that he is inherently more trained in fighting magic than someone who had a shorter lifespan but WAS dedicated to making themselves stronger for combat purposes. After all, someone like Tedd who was given 200 years to learn magic would STILL be dogshit in a fight, because the sort of magic that Tedd would spend that 200 years learning wouldn't be for fighting.
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>>150212239
No you would need to prove that magic does have an upper limit. Which has never been shown or hinted at. And NP stories coming up actually indicate that anybody can train your magic infinity, with just the rate of growth being different between people. On top of immortals just growing in strength magically forever as they age, indicating that indeed their is not limit. And has a half immortal Raven would not have any theoretical ceiling anywhere near a humans.

And Raven spent the last few hundreds years wanting to fight only held back by the being unable to do so, unless the situation already involved magic. So his magic would be geared specifically for dealing with enemy magic users.

And again Raven had been placing prepared spells all over the school for at least 50 years, that alone should have made the fight an easy win even if Raven was only as old as Abraham. Only massive simple incompetence makes losing with that big an advatage possible, on top of Raven's many other advantages.
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>>150211626
Depends who you see as the two sides of the argument. Personally I see them as "gender even fictional is VERY IMPORTANT one way or another" and "who the fuck cares it's a fantasy game made to imagine things you are not, why would playing a demon be different from playing another gender"
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>>150212010
>Not really, how magic works in egs is you get both more magical power, and spells the more you use magic

Without knowing how the increase works that says very little. It might exist an upper limit. The increase may be logarithmic instead of exponential or linear. There may be diminishing returns.
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>>150212525
Nta but doesnt kevin outright state that magic is potential based? Tedd was supposed to be too weak to do any magic even with training, and people like nanase or rhonda get more mana for the same training AND outright better spells. Abraham could easily beat raven with talent. Plus, nowhere in any of the MANY explanations of magic does dan imply limitless growth, or that raven trains at all, or that you can fish for a spell that will do whatever random shit you want over an arbitrary period of time.

In fact he shows the opposite, nanase and elliot both spend ages getting "wrong" spells despite training for the ones they consiously want since it mirrors your personality, not your wish list
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>>150213951
To follow that up, Raven's first instinct when dealing with an Invasive Boar was to dispel the growth magic and send it somewhere where it wouldn't be a threat, not kill. That suggest a personality that is at least somewhat adverse to killing. At least compared to a man who for the last few centuries spent his time between killing as a lawn ornament.
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>>150213951
Tedd has the most magic out of everybody by entire orders of magnitude., basically unlimited magic. Nanase and Rhonda getting more out of training is not an issue. Someone that trains at 1 point a year, for 50 years, has more then someone training at 3 points a year for 2 year. Even if Raven was only was a 1 pointer he has 3-4 centuries. Compared to Abraham's at say 3 points for 50 years. Raven doubles at a minimum if he is training even casually. So Raven losing is pretty damming evidence that he is not training his magic.

Coming up it is made explicitly clear, you can fish for any spell you want, if your using proper magical training methods, which also trains your magical power.

And since Raven learned magic from Pandora he knows massively more about magical training then 99% of magic users. We know Raven knew about manual control of spells, since he trained Edward who knew, something nobody seems to figure out on their own. To the point that despite employing Edward, nobody else in the magical government, even knew that was a thing.

Nanase never got wrong spells, she got spells that reflected who she was, even if she did not like what that said about her. Elliot did, but that because of artificial awaking which is a known and understood side effect of the diamond. And even then Elliot only had the issue for so long is because of the magical dam, it would have only been 2-3 months at most otherwise not over half a year.
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>>150210706
It all makes sense and is probably what Dan would do but I'd say it would make more sense for it to be Lord Tedd or Justin
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>>150214032
>im also a gross fat dumb pig who everyone hates and should just die
-raven probably

>>150214361
>Tedd has the most magic
I know, its been mentioned several times. You're not good with lateral thinking huh
>still on the no limits fallacy
>ones and threes
Okay but thats not evidence or an argument, you're just reasserting shit you made up in your head
>you can fish for any spell you want
I dont remember that and multiple arcs contradict it so im gonna say bullshit
>she got spells that reflected who she was
AND that where subtle, AND that she would use regularly. And none of those criteria apply to raven learning "power word kill"
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>>150211623
We kind of skimmed over it but there's was a long while where Noah was set up as: "The Child Left Behind" and it was a mystery who/what his identity was.
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>>150211959
I'm now remembering Dan saying it was becoming a problem having the car split up and wanting to get them all in college so that they would have an easier time interesting with each other and I think he said that in like 2017 or something. Crazy.

The accessories were obviously a trans thing, he's just experimenting with "being girl" even though it's kind of silly.

I suppose there's a slight chance it's so he can wear magic wands on the daily without worrying about it, though.
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>>150214631
For as little as the high school setting was relevant Dan could have easily just made everything in the same school. The city is big enough apparently to have thousands of students , they could easily have never meet each other before the story. And have had different classes.

Their was mention of Tedd wanting to experiment with magical jewelry. But no actual confirmation that it Tedd actually started doing it.

>>150214572
>I dont remember that and multiple arcs contradict it so im gonna say bullshit
To bad it canon that you can shoot for any spell you want if you know how to train magic.
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>>150214684
Yeah, I understand why he didn't think so at the time, but it really should have been seeing how it all played out.
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>>150205923
Grace gets several dream sequences. They're good, but we should get some Ellen-good looking Ted dreams too.

>>150205622
Tensaided working for the magic police? Well that never happened. Noah and Diane as a couple would have been neat too. (especially if Diane ends up no longer a virgin)

>>150205747
Dan needs to stop writing EGS as a spellbook, instead of creating fun chaotic EGS humour.
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>>150215157
>Noah and Diane as a couple
Anon, they're siblings
That's forbidden love
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Noah definitely feels like a character who was intended to be more important than he ended up being. Like, he keeps getting attached to important characters and revelations, but as soon as he's connected to them they get dropped.
>first introduced as "the child left behind" a mysterious figure looking for Grace with a connection to Damien, but with no means of finding her
>Has a relationship with Melissa during the time when she was Justin's frequent comic relief villian, but she ends up rarely being used
>becomes friends with Elliot, but Elliot never bothers introducing Noah to the rest of the crew
>is revealed to be a super hero when Elliot gets a Super hero alter ego, but Elliot never does any hero things so they don't develop that kind of relationship
>established as Raven's son, right before Raven is removed from the story
>finds out Grace is Shade Tail, but never follows up.
>Diane adopts him as a brother, but I stopped reading the comic by this point so I don't know if it goes anywhere.
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>>150216776
That would require Dan to have a reasonable pacing. Very little since Grace's birthday party has been payed off.
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>>150205183
I should be so lucky
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>>150216776
> I stopped reading the comic by this point so I don't know if it goes anywhere.
it doesn't

You make good points. It's crazy that he not only didn't immediately try talking to Grace but that he also never wound up fighting crime with Elliot. For all intents and purposes Noah should've integrated with the main cast a long time ago but not only has he not we've had five-ish other people join the cast on the interim.

I think I may know why. Sort of like Justin was Dan's outlet for new and dating content and to explore and a gay outlet that quickly got sidelined as useless when he decided everyone could just ve kind of nonbinary and bisexual Noah was his way of exploring non-traditional gender roles and a having a cool, good looking guy with a girlfriend also be feminine and girly/androgynous but then he decided Tedd and Elliot were both gender fluid so there wasn't really a reason for him anymore.
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>>150215454
They're not related, Noah was adopted by Raven. (though Noah had to have parents somehow)
>>150204675
Noah-Diane could have been Team Rocket shenanigans'd whoever the villain was up one side and down the other. But no, that never happened.
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>>150218205
Their a story with Noah but it involves fighting and Dan won't risk any actual threat to the characters.
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>>150205818
many such cases
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Potentially weird take: but I feel like what EGS needs is to bring Damien back. Either an alternate universe version of him, or say that the explosion didn't kill him an immortal just yeeted him to somewhere else and now he's coming back.

So many of EGS's characters and plot points revolve around this villain that was introduced and taken care of EXTREMELY early in the comic, and without him around these early elements feel directionless. Bringing back Damien as a threat would do a lot to revitalize the comic and make these not wasted characters and shit.
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>>150218800
Stop! You're gonna give Dan a panic attack!
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