Ask your BSD-related questions here, discuss tips and tricks, sharescripts, and everything in between.>Main operating systemshttps://www.openbsd.orghttps://www.freebsd.orghttps://www.netbsd.orghttps://www.dragonflybsd.org>Updates and advisoriesOpenBSD: https://www.undeadly.orgFreeBSD: https://www.freebsd.org/security/notices/NetBSD https://www.netbsd.org/changes/DragonFly BSD: https://www.dragonflydigest.comComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>107628532>The more "user friendly" and "community focused" a project becomes the worse it becomes.That's only when it is bad and run by a cult that can't handle criticism. The "worse" is just normal people pointing out the flaws and problems that cult members are told to ignore.>POSIX OSs were already user friendly even in the 80s.They were friendly to users of backdoors like the Morris worm, not the people using the operating system. UNIX was a lot worse than most operating systems, and also buggier and crashed more often. UNIX systems stole a lot of features from better operating systems, like tab completion and virtual memory.>The entire point was it being user friendly enough for someone that knew what a compiler was and how to read C.Then everything is user friendly enough for someone. Toggle switches and lights are user friendly to someone who knows the computer's machine code in binary, but UNIX trannies will complain because they don't want to know how computers actually work. UNIX trannies will say that anything that makes computers easier to use is bad unless it's something UNIX has, then it's something they can't live without. UNIX behavior is the same as cult behavior.>Even if they couldn't program they were at least smart enough to download a tar and extract the contents then run make/make install.On DOS, you could run a self-extracting archive and then run an EXE. And you could use batch files to compile programs instead of "make" brain damage.
>>107623908I'm tempted to try out a BSD, but I fail to see a reason for it. I like Rust, Wayland, and I'm indifferent to SystemD, but I wonder if there is something worthwhile about having a more pure Unix experience. FreeBSD seems more flexible and likely easier to transition to, but OpenBSD is made out to seem more cohesive. I know FreeBSD has jails, which seems interesting, and I'm not trying to maximize security, so I'm curious what are some other features that'd sell someone on using a *BSD over Void Linux or something similar? And why choose FreeBSD vs OpenBSD?I am attracted to this idea of a pure Unix experience and avoiding all of the modern woes of Linux that I can't help but want to use on my main machine.
>>107630342FreeBSD is a decent server/router OS. Even then, the problem I've found is that sometimes for every 5 ways of doing things on Linux there is maybe 1 way of doing the equivalent in FreeBSD, but good luck finding it. For me, the main advantage over Linux is native ZFS, but the effort spent getting to really know FreeBSD is not likely to be worth it. The nice thing about Linux is that you can most likely avoid all the woes you're thinking of (unless they're with the kernel itself) and still take advantage of the wider ecosystem, by using some schizo distro. As for using it on a desktop, it's pretty cool that it has native Nvidia drivers and a native port of Morrowind, but once you let the novelty wear off you just uninstall it and get on with your life.
>>107628979Yep. I encourage you to harass me.
>>107630342>FreeBSD seems more flexible and likely easier to transition toyes; it is easier to learn and the handbook is more in-depth than openbsd's faq>OpenBSD is made out to seem more cohesivea cohesive system is one trait shared by all BSD operating systems, it's part of the core philosophy>Void LinuxI have only touched alpine, debian, and (most unfortunately) ubuntu so I can't help there specificallywhat I can tell you is that every time I use linux I get frustrated to some extentI often run into package management dependency issues, something freebsd solved ~20 years agothe thing I absolutely hate the most is how software is out of date because they only provide packages for versions released years prior, so you have to add a separate package repository to get a newer versionthe solution for the systemic deficiencies linux has in general is "curl this random url and pipe it into a shell as root"while jails are really cool, the real selling point for freebsd (and openbsd) is the ports tree; packages are available but sometimes you need a compile-time feature and it's easily accomplished with a couple commands ... and the result is intertwined with the package system so everything works together (like a system should) because it's how packages are built in the first placea caveat to consider is that new hotness simply doesn't work in freebsd; it will take literal years to get something that is second nature on linux .... but there is the linux emulation thing that can smooth out some rough edgesComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Are you still with us, Doctor Freeman? Not for much longer I think.
>>107632779>if you want vxkex then you cant go full esuwhat is this nonsensevxkex works fine with ESUs installed
Dr. Freeman. You really shouldn't be using Windows 7. At the moment of broadcast, as I connect, this drive will be bathed in deadly viruses that have yet to be named by human science. Perhaps when I have the leisure to do the work myself, I'll name one after you. That way you won't be completely outdated.When the partition is setup, I will be far away from here. In another operating system, as a matter of fact. You, on the other hand, will be reformatted in every way it is possible to be formatted-and even in some which are essentially impossible.I don't know what you can possibly hope to achieve, apart from your own obsolescence.
>>107633141>if you connect an outdated OS to the internet you'll get loads of viruses don't you listen to cybersecurity " (((experts))) "
>>107632997what version? dotexe's says somewhere it doesnt work on a certain version of esu onwards
>>107621943
AI bros are stealing art from 10 year old kids, what the fuck
>>107630711Literally looks nothing like the stuff in OP, nowhere near as complex or clean. Obviously very good for a 10 year old but saying that OP is fully stealing is a reach. They should have just not mentioned that they ran this girl's work through AI and just said that it came from prompting alone.
>>107632984>it hurts their prideGood. I've been "stealing" art since the mid-90s when I was taking whatever I could find on the internet, editing it in photoshop/paint shop pro then using it for banners, buttons and whatever other bullshit I needed for the web pages I was building. I'm never going to stop and there is nothing they can do about it. All emails I get crying about it have always got sent directly to /dev/null.
>>107633040Translation:>I took some guy's deviantart pics to use on my youtube channel banner that gets 400 views per year and I like to imagine they saw it and got super upset about it but probably not
>>107633025i'm not defending the AI examples provided, though i will add that the 10yo's work is also derivative (shocker). it's pretty obviously a modified version of Vanellope from Wreck-It-Ralph
>>107630432This desu
Still the most futuristic versions of Windows/Office to date!
>>107632898>>Windows+E>>Wait almost ten secondsthe other day I found Explorer loads very slow if there are files from a network share in Recently Accessedforced Explorer to always open to My Computer instead (yes I renamed This PC to My Computer) and since then it always opens immediately
Absolutely hated the ribbons when thry first came out.Looking back, this is where Office peaked. A shame the format it uses is completely junk nowadays. Libreoffice look decent with compact tabs at least.
>>107632898>wait 10 seconds throw your stinkpad in the trash
And how do you print a document, it's file > print, correct?No? Wait, the entire menu at the top of the screen has been removed? Ctrl-p to print?And then you realize that everything is really /x/. They got rid of the menu at the top of the screen, and they listened to all of the IT phone calls this resulted in, and the elites did all kinds of gambling about these IT phone calls. That's what actually happened.Windows 11 is like they sat around a table, discussed every single thing that made Windows 7 good, and decided to remove those features. Why? In doing so, it gave them something to gamble about.The war in Ukraine? Gambling. Gaza? Gambling. Mass shootings? Gambling. Healthcare? Gambling. Shitty software? Gambling.etc etc etcThere are no guardian angels, there are just people that gambled that you would act ethically.
>>107632833take you meds. nobodys laughing
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>>107632907>I have a question>doesn't post the questionThose people need the guillotine.
>>107632462> drama-free> forcing unrelated rentries in op
>>107632929open an issue
>>107633161>anotger stolen gen (>>107633126)""""Drama freee""""" thread btw
okay, so why I'm seeing non stop windows 11 rant and shit? This system has been released 4 years ago, how it is STILL bad exactly? I'm now reading articles about it, but I honestly can't believe this is real, I'm still on windows 10 btw.
>>107633023The rant is because Windows 10 EOL recently. Windows 11 is unironically no worse then 10 when it comes to the negatives, but it has at least some positive things over 10.
>>107633023the worst thing about WIndows 11 is that its slower and less user friendly.you can thank outsourcing and vibecoding for that
don't care, still on 7 lol
>V is garbage collected>nim is garbage collected>gleam is garbage collected>roc is garbage collected>dart is garbage collected>kotlin is garbage collected>jakt is reference counted>swift is reference counted>rust has the borrow checker (and reference counted with Rc and Arc)>hare wants to be borrow checked>C++ is becoming reference counted via opt-in with smart pointers>jai is a memelang that will never release>but it doesnt matter because odin already proved that no one will use jai or odin anyway>zig has potential but will most likely fizzle out>basically every programming language released in the last 15 years is memory safeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>107632350>jeet comment
>>107632119And basically every program released in the past 15 years is a bloated piece of shit that requires orders of magnitude more memory and CPU time than it has any right toBloat won. Capable programmers lost
>>107632119she's cute. what programming language does she use? i hope she likes my weapon of java deep inside
>>107632393>just write fortran in rust guise it's the futurenah I'm good I got that out of my system from writing Fortran in C in the 80's. A good programmer can write Fortran in any language, no trooning out required.
>>107632119beef has no gc and is essentially modern c++
Game developers are cucks. They earn peanuts, need to know physics, math, hardware, and optimization techniques, and spend their time and effort just to make man-children happy.Pathetic.
>>107631099You intentionally ignored my follow-up post where I corrected myself, out of some weird frustration. Illiterate or retarded?
>>107631099I don't know anyone who started their own company without being a nepobaby.At the very least, their parents or uncle taught them about these things.
>>107613538>and spend their time and effort just to make man-children happyfalse, I do it for myself. I despise most of the AAAslop eating gaymers from today
>>107631950>I have never made a game
>>107632781>cope
What's the better desktop distro Ubuntu Mint or Debian? Red Hat fags keep walking this is a Debian neighborhood
>>107633048Just use ubuntu and snaps then go back.
>>107633048thank me later fren. and yeah, welcome to the legendary distro userbase.
>No more racismwe just form new races and then the racist hierarchies recalibrate, dummy
Macs have the best laptop hardware bundled with trash software. FIXED.
>>107632503i would consider it if it was official fedora support and not some tiny side project. and running on the latest chips and not old shit.
>>107632610How do I make it look like Windows 7?
>>107632503>soldered ram, ssd and othersGarbage
>>107632709>How do I make it look like that OSX Tiger ripoffFTFY
>best hardwarelol noimagine wanting to deal with apple's blobsconceptually the framework laptops are the best, performance wise it's anything with strix halo
just added "login with google" to my saas, did I miss anything?
>>107632643>did I miss anything?yes. your pride and dignity.
>>107632643lmao
>>107632643>Login with your momjust tried that and it said it's already in use, OP
>>107632643>cant login with buc-eesNIGGER
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YOU FUCKING NOOGLER
fucking hate workingI fucking hate this shitty fucking companyI hate spending all my living time staring at the shitty screenI hate it here, I'll always hate it
>>107633016>I hate spending all my living time staring at the shitty screen>I hate it here, I'll always hate itanon... how did you even get a tech job?
>>107633062it's the only thing I'm moderately good atI used to love computers and I'll never forgive this industry for destroying my passion for this field
>>107633119As they say, if you love something never make it your job
>>107502998Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)Why ThinkPad?>Used machines are plentiful and cheap>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain>Excellent Linux & *BSD supportThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specshttps://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWikiComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>107622854lame
I want to give two old, low-powered laptops for my parents each. Use case is only for shopkeeping, accounting, reading news, Facebook, and watching Youtube. Which do you think here is best?>Option 1 is Thinkpad X120e and Thinkpad X131e/X140e.>Option 2 is potentially two X220 machines.>Option 3 is to buy cheap 11" Chromebooks. These were like 5 years ago but def more recent than the two options before.
>>107632865none.Old people with poor eyesight would benift from 14"-16" screen with scaling set to 150%
>hinge of my x230 broke today>remember I have a replacement bought just in case>10 min job>all works as beforeFeels so good mates. Is this how tradies feel after unclogging a shitter?
>>107632865forget Option 1, those are shitOption 2 is great if you install linux , maybe t420 is better if they dont take it outside, cpu is not soldered + bigger screeni suggest x1 carbon (at least gen3)
A complete piece of shit
>>107604558Chance lives rent-free in Kurobatrannies heads.
>>107618025>Is there any talent on this board?Do you really have to ask?
>>107627825Like some kind of animal?
>>107629771That's an astute observation fren. Could be something to it
>>107629665Moffchad should drop Android support, really.
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>>107632175is this a buoy
ok i caved and bought some melodics. ive heard they’re less annoying than most clickies and the force curve looks kino
>>107631019>a full decade of waitingNobody told me the dactyl was a poison chalice. The trackball version looked interesting but the more I see it the less it actually is appealing in regards to ergonomics. I don't even have the desire to hotswap from my boba 4UTs
>>107626489trans hands typed this post
>>107632754Of course it is.
