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A quick guide on how to distinguish good and bad SSD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qdvg6D
Is this a good build for 1440p?

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watercooling is neat

>>101227823
it's completely fine, but I can give you a few optimizations
- a few dollars more gets you a faster 4.0 drive with DRAM cache, e.g. Kingspec XG7000, MSI Spatium M480, Adata Legend 960, and others
- Ryzen 5 7600 is the same processor and come with a heatsink that works completely fine, you can save the $35 on the TR PA120

>>101227823
I'd get the 6800 over the 7700 XT.

>>101227978
Why tho?

I'm about to get a new nvme drive. I was thinking about luks encrypting it this time around. Bad idea? People used to say here that it would decimate r/w speeds and bring an early death to the drive because it doesn't work with TRIM. I heard contradicting claims as well though.

>>101228003
Cheaper, similar to slightly better performance, more VRAM.

>>101228017
Thats fair. Although, I'm only seeing one available listing for the 6800, so I'd imagine there aren't many left.

>>101227849
Changed up some things. I'll research more about the ssds later, but took the RAM and cpu advice.
Thanks.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Kxnfy

>intel arrow lake
amd has ran out of time, after arrow lake launches amd is cooked

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>>101228181

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>>101228107
cool man, yeah
that Lexar NM790 is a DRAMless drive, I wouldn't recommend it personally, although it's not a bad drive overall (similar to WD SN770)
the GPU was arguably the most important change though lol, if you're stuck on NV (and I get it) at least get the 4070 SUPER for the same price

>>101228277
It's more expensive here but it's one of the things I'm considering.

>>101228291
oh, I missed where you said you were not in the US heh

>>101228181
I hope so
Cheaper zen5x3d for me then

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Day 452 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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Finally I've installed SSDs.
To be honest I need to clean this spaghetti factory explosion under the table.

How often do you clean inside your PC?

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>>101228401
Never understood cable management.

>>101228277
DRAM cache hasn't mattered since the invention of HMB

>>101227896
Thanks for the tips

>>101227978
On my local Amazon there's only an XFX one. Is that fine?

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>>101228484
HMB is not reliable in the case of a power failure, it can cause filesystem corruption
HMB also doesn't extend longevity the way DRAM cache does
even 2003 me is unimpressed with you

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>>101228413
Front side cable management makes sense, even if it is a nebulous muh airflow and stopping cables getting eaten by fans. Rear management beyond getting the panel on is for autists as it isn't a server (where you have miles of cables and need to sensibly cluster them) so it impedes nothing and you'll never see it anyway.

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>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VVPMh3
my GTX 980 Ti 6 GB is kicking the bucket, it occasionally black screen crashes my system during half hour gaming sessions and requires my PC to full reboot.
which GPU would pair well with this 1080p monitor here that I'm planning to also purchase: https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00126541 ?
Said monitor linked above is the LG 29WQ500-B, 29 inch and 100hz display.
GPU budget is around 350 USD.

>>101228869
5ms response time of that monitor, I would pair it with a 6600 / xt (around 250$) because it implies you do not play games at all

>>101228918
5ms response is the same as my current monitor, and I don't find a related problem with it, especially since I am not playing competitive twitchy shooters like CS2 or Call of Duty.

>>101228869
1920x1080: ~2.1 megapixels
2560x1080: ~2.8 megapixels
2560x1440: ~3.7 megapixels

you're buying a GPU, so I assume you're gaming
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00130178 - save $40 and get a better monitor
don't fall for the ultrawide meme, it sucks, and 100Hz with no VRR is very meh

as for GPUs, well, for starters don't buy from memoryexpress because their GPUs are crazy overpriced
but the $350-$390 market for GPUs right now is kind of a wasteland of compromises and suboptimal choices
I'm seeing RX 6750 XT cards and RX 7600 XT cards for around $300, both are fair choices
there's an RX 6800 card on Newgg for $359 which is a good value
RTX 4060 Ti 8GB cards start at around $370 but man, buying 8GB GPU in 2024 feels bad
the 16GB model is another $80, which is gross when you can buy an RX 7800 XT for that price and that is a much faster GPU overall
my best recommendation I guess would be either a Radeon RX 7600 XT 16GB card for ~$310 or an RTX 4060 (considerably slower, but more power efficient) for $290 -- last-gen RX 6750 XT 12GB for $300 is also a solid runner-up

Is an RTX 3060 Ti enough to drive 4K gameplay for titles released before the 2020's?

>>101229081
it's going to depend a lot on the game but sure, sometimes—a Ryzen 7 8700G's integrated graphics is enough to drive 4K gameplay in lots of games, and the RTX 3060 Ti is obviously quite a bit faster than that

>old stock 6900xt is literally just $550
>4070 ti super is $800
which one?

>>101229132
7900xtx

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>>101229025
Yes, for gaming primarily.
Sadly I have to compromise with an ultrawide monitor since I tend to multi-task outside of gaming and I don't have enough desk space to set up two monitors side by side.
If I were to dump my current monitor budget and bump up my GPU budget to around 450 USD - 500 USD in exchange, would it get me out of that sub-optimal wasteland that was mentioned?
High-end GPU on my current 60hz monitor is definitely a terrible idea, but I can wait longer for like a flash sale or black friday sale on a good ultrawide monitor while my GPU is croaking as days pass by and more pressing of an issue.

>>101229164
why?
at least with nvidia I can use their proprietary upscaling and ai meme

>>101229132
>old stock 6900xt is literally just $550
Not worth it when the 7900 GRE goes for the same price and is just better overall.

>>101227731
>x4 5.0
does this mean no more depopping the first M2 slot so that your GPU doesn't get cucked?

LGA 1700 boards with the most USB/SATA/PCI-E slots that I can buy? I got $300 to spend on one.

>>101229244
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CUW5HDU
problem with ultrawide is a surprising amount of stuff does not work with it properly, I fell for the ultrawide meme and that monitor now lives downstairs where one of my kids uses it to play fucking chillas art games over and over (???)

but anyway, regarding your actual question, $500 puts you in range of the Radeon RX 7800 XT which is a very capable GPU for 1440p gaming, some 4K gaming, and frankly overkill for 1080p

in fact, to be honest, for 1080p (whether 1920x or 2560x), the RX 7600 XT 16GB is more than enough GPU, even for demanding games with ray-tracing like Elden Ring and Dragon's Dogma

the RX 7800 XT would give you room to stretch for higher resolutions and also will last longer in general (in terms of relevance); either are solid options

as far as GeForce cards go, the problem is that everything below the RTX 4070 has a 128-bit memory bus, which is totally fine for a $300 GPU like the RTX 4060 (or indeed the RX 7600), but not so great for a $500 GPU like the RTX 4060 Ti 16GB -- it means that performance kinda falls off when games want to do a lot of heavy buffer operations (including, ironically, ray-tracing stuff), or especially if you start increasing the resolution

the RX 7800 XT has a full 256-bit memory bus and a large 64MB last-level cache so it will lose performance more gracefully as you increase resolution and add on more effects

it is true that AMD's ray-tracing hardware is not as capable as NVIDIA's and you'll have a hard time playing games that make really heavy use of RT effects (like Cyberpunk 2077 in "RT Overdrive" mode, or Alan Wake 2 maxed-out), but anything short of that will work fine (and you can play those games with reduced RT effects, of course)

tl;dr RX 7600 XT or RTX 4060 at $300, RX 7800 XT at $500

>Crucial P5 Plus
>Corsair MP600 PRO XT
>WD SN850X
Which one?

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>>101229388
that's never been a thing anon
sometimes you avoid using the first M.2 slot because the heat from your GPU will cause the SSD to overheat
there is no motherboard on earth that steals lanes from PCIEX_1 for an M.2 socket

>>101229420
That's actually a thing on certain z790 boards that choose to bifucate the x16 into x8 gpu and x4 nvme because intel lacks an x4 pcie5.0 slot whereas am5 supports x16, x4, x4 (cpu) and x4 (chipset) pcie5.0

>>101229420
>lacks critical information
anon, may want to check your setup if you use (((intel)))

>>101229393
More vram helps with mods too right? I mostly play modded Bethesda or Capcom games nowadays.

>>101229517
>>101229530
ah. well I haven't used or recommended any Intel hardware since Zen 2 came out, so, lol
that's monstrously stupid, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised

>>101229552
it can, if the mods add a lot of resources or radically increase the quality of resources -- things like HD texture packs or additional equipments with high-rez textures can bloat the VRAM usage of a game a lot

>>101229418
For what purpose and what amount? All of those are high-end NVME drives, so it all depends on what you're needs are.
If its just for a 1 or 2 tb boot drive, then there are other, cheaper gen 4 NVME drives available, such as the Teamgroup MP44, SP US75, or the Patriot Viper VP4300 Lite.

>>101229618
Longevity, those are TLC/DRAM drives.

>>101229634
MP600 PRO LPX
Longevity doesn't exist unless you're using a 90s HDD in your build.

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>>101229634
While the MP44 and VP4300 Lite are DRAMless, they do have HMB to make up for it. Also, have you considered the Acer Predator GM7000? Its both cheaper than the WD, Crucial, or Corsair while also having a DRAM cache.

Why do current gen motherboards have such a dogshit feature set for the money? 8 USB ports and 3 PCIE slots (all but one gimped) at nearly a grand? Fucking seriously?

>>101230058
maybe in your third country
they are like 180 bucks in the civilized world

>>101230134
retarded low-information post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkDVlv1FFg

>>101230306
>retarded low-information post
the irony is palpable

>>101230314
YOU HAVE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF CURRENT-GEN <$700 BOARDS RIGHT THERE WITH POVERTY-TIER FEATURESETS

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Pluton is supposed to be TPM, right?
Just bought a new laptop with modern everything, AMD Ryzen 7000 CPU, and TPM isn't detected by Windows.

I went into UEFI BIOS and enabled Pluton and all the other modern botnet shit, also cleared the existing Pluton keys.
Windows still doesn't detect TPM. Halp!

>>101230306
this is what happens when europoors use gamersnexus as a source of news

>>101230374
pluton isn't a TPM. pluton is a secure enclave for encryption keys, which is what a TPM is, but it's separate
you need to enable "AMD fTPM" somewhere in your motherboard firmware

that said, don't use a fucking TPM, that's security theater horseshit
make a copy of the Windows 11 install USB using Rufus and it will give you the options to disable all those requirements
you can also skip the MS account requirement and make a local account

What are cheapest or best value high refresh rate monitors one can buy for under $250? The shit I'm finding on retailers on the low end looks something like this.
>VG240YEBMIIX
>XV240Y M3
>XZ270XBIIPHX
>AOC 24G2ZE
>HP 527sh

>>101230134
>third country
esl post
>>101230383
you're actually fucking retarded holy shit kill yourself right now
you have the proof right in front of you and yet you go off on a completely irrelevant tangent about ureop or whatever the fuck

the third world monkey has begun seething

i bought 2 lian li uni p28 fans, they're currently on sale in sweden

the auction for 2 noctua nf-12x25 from a private seller ended at 550 kr, the lian li uni p28 fans are only 149 kr each lol

i wanted 1 fan for my cpu cooler and 1 fan as a case fan but one is much louder than the other so i will return it

should i buy another lian li uni p28 fan or cope with arctic p12 argb as a case fan and wait for next-gen 140mm fans? a 140mm bottom fan will work in an APU build in ncase m1, especially with an ATX PSU there're no point in having dual 120mm fans at the bottom.

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>>101230420
the actual sincere legitimate answer to your question is "chinese are retarded and will buy a mediocre product because it looks cool, has a fancy name, and costs $700"

>>101230409
if you're doing competitive gaming, look for an IPS-type with a very high refresh rate (165+)
if you're doing single-player gaming, look or a VA-type with a slightly high refresh rate (~120-144)

manufacturer specifications are mostly meaningless unfortunately

*noctua nf-a12x25 chromax.black.swap

>>101228645
DRAM on an SSD isn't reliable either
Almost no consumer SSD has the power loss protection capacitors necessary to keep power to flush the cache to NAND

>>101230444
good fans. what about them? trying to rile up the autist?

I'm really struggling to pull the trigger on a £85 case
I should not be paying this much just for a metal box

>>101230496
by that logic you shouldn't be spending any money on gaming components you stupid nigger. buy what you want within your means and keep it moving.

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>>101230496
join the me from 20 years ago and build your shit in a milk crate
yes the motherboard is mounted upside down
no it was not fine

>>101230507
and yet I have no qualms about other hardware
think this might be more complicated than you're making it out to be

I hate GamersNexus and his cultlike following.

>>101230544
it's not steve's fault that his fans are sycophantic retards
this happens to anyone who speaks with authority
I find gamersnexus fankids much less annoying than fucking digital foundry fankids
I like a lot of DF's work but holy fuck shut up you do not have to install SpecialK into every single fucking game

>>101230544
You'd have no issue with him if he didn't call out your fav hardware companies lol

>>101230493
looking at reviews, lian li uni p28 and phanteks t30 have the upper hand at medium to high speeds through a radiator, but noctua nf-a12x25 wins in noise-performance as a case fan. lian li uni p28 has an annoying sound profile like angry bees or an angle grinder so i guess it's better to use a different fan as a case fan anyway to avoid stacking that annoying sound even though it's not bad below 1700rpm.

>>101230563
>fav hardware companies
I don't have one. You are part of the problem.

>>101230544
The fact that he shits on nvidia is outrageous. The fact that millions of people listen to this tripe is frankly disgusting.

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>IIYAMA ProLite XU2463HSU-B1 23.8"
Is this a good value display for office/home users who occasionally play FPS titles? The main selling point of this monitor is that it consumes only 9 watts at $135. And somehow they cram 100Hz w/ FreeSync and a 1300:1 static contrast ratio into this price point.

If we're being honest, Steve has always been an AMD shill and it's the only reason you retards slobber on his dick for anything he says. If you are a fan of him you are almost undoubtedly an AMDUnboxed cocksucker too.

>>101230581
>consumes only 9 watts
I bet the brightness on that is atrocious.

>>101230572
非常棒的帖子,小熊维尼先生。

>>101230581
they claim 1300:1 static contrast on an IPS-type?
extremely dubious
even the very best IPS-type LCDs struggle to hit 1300:1 without local dimming
I also don't know what's up with 100Hz refresh rate, but, the lack of VRR technology and only 96% sRGB mean that I would never consider buying this display

>>101230569
Oh you do, even if not for a specific company you do have an emotional attachment to the DIY PC hardware apparatus as a single entity.
If you didn't you wouldn't have a problem, as he would be just another reviewer. His fans only exist because he makes videos on the business practices of companies rather than just review products.

>>101230605
They claim 250 cd/m2 (SDR) brightness on this display, which seems identical to any other bog standard 1080p IPS panel from this class, such as the 24MP55 I'm using.

>>101230496
the tower is the one part that won't be obsolete in a couple of years, so don't skimp on it, get a good one

>>101230544
The issue with his type of videos is that they give retards who have already chosen a side fuel to stir shit at any opportunity. Digital Foundry has the same problem. There's no way to stop that unfortunately.

>>101230634
>only 96% sRGB mean that I would never consider buying this display
Standards for modern displays must have skyrocketed since 2013 considering my 24 inch daily driver only has 72% sRGB and no VRR. And this was considered a BTA panel for the time.

>>101230681
shit needs to be stirred desu
this idea everything is all fine and dandy in pc land is such a delusion

>>101230647
that seems fine at least if you don't have the sun shining into your room

>>101230685
They have. Being held back by srgb is a crime for vidya as that is a standard that dates back decades. The classic enb blasting contrast and saturation to retarded levels to be "realistic" or cinematic exist to try and overcome shit tier displays that are closer to black and white than actually being able to show the sort of colour the human eye can see (which even the latest and greatest don't fully cover).

>>101230727
Somehow I feel more guilty for not daily driving my PD2700Q for desktop/casual titles over the last 5 years more often. It's just often a pain in the ass to have to switch between primary monitors when you want to play a game that demands better response time (which my 24MP55HQ-P is better suited for) and rearrange your desk to that end.

Anyone here with experience using Spyder5?

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>>101230685
yes, standards have radically changed in the last eleven years (??)

How much will I be gimping my Gaymen if I go with a 13600 over the 7800x3d? I do work stuff but it's CAD, excel, matlab, some python, nothing insane. The heaviest thing I do is FEA, but nothing too insane.

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>>101230443
>if you're doing competitive gaming, look for an IPS-type with a very high refresh rate (165+)
AOC 24G2ZE seems to be the best at this price point from what I can tell as far as budget 240Hz monitors go at around $220. Doesn't get much cheaper than this I think.

>>101227731
https://youtu.be/4FnE4TOG11Y?si=K7PTJcOdnoqxzTqP
AMD IS BACK BABYYYYY

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>>101227731
>9000X3D (Sep 2024)
is this confirmed somewhere?

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>>101227731
>Web browsing: i3 12100/5600G

>>101230810
yeah. why?

Regardless of price, what's the best NVME currently?
Are Samsung drives still good?

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rip amd

>>101230832
It's about 15% worse.

>>101230882
something you've never heard of, and couldn't buy anyway

>>101230832
Are you playing at 1080p?
If not, then it doesn't matter
All game benchmarks are based on low resolutions with a 4090

>>101230882
best NVME in what? be specific

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>>101227731
Which motherboard brand is the cheapest but also has the best UEFI BIOS? I like Gigabyte. I love ASRock, but their UEFI BIOS is boring and lacks features.

>>101230901
Do you just spend all your time in the BIOS?

>>101230915
yes. gigabyte is gigabased

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>>101230832
the 7800X3D is faster in geekbench MT and cinebench MT, why pick an i5-13600?
it's a significant loss in gaming performance (although the performance is overall stil quite good) but it's also worse in most other areas, heh

>>101230835
yeah, that looks like a pretty decent deal I'd say, nice find

>>101230845
GPT, summarize

>>101230861
no

>>101230864
they're fine for that

>>101230882
Crucial T700 or Corsair MP700
any PCIe 5.0 NVMe because they're all E26 based
both are still slower than optane for randoms though

>>101230884
everything looks bad here even dlss. the best option in horizon is no TAA.

>>101230896
>>101230891
just the best overall consumer drives currently, there are tons of NVMEs on sale locally so I'm wondering if there might be good ones to look out for

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>>101230942
shame no one has invented a use case for watercoolers for <100w cpus

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>>101230940
anything in high-end

>>101230893
1440p

>>101230953
max x3d/intel turbo boost without sustained throttling.

>>101230832
>The heaviest thing I do is FEA, but nothing too insane.
also I am moving this to a cloud service called simscale so it doesn't matter that much as I won't be cpu bound anymore

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i got the rtx 4070 super instead of the rtx 4070 super ti, to replace my 1080, should i go back and get the ti? now i know how grandma feels when she's buying little timmy shovelware

>>101231030
get the 7900gre, switch to linux, enjoy 15-30% better performance at lower money.

Bought a rx 7800 xt today, will i regret it?

>>101230953
Are people just gonna seethe impotently when a company releases decent products for a decent price?
Very odd behavior.

Don't want to open my PC, what are my options for good external SSDs over USB-C. Rear port gives 20GB/s and front gives 10GB/s

Wondering if I can split 2-3 over one port, so say 2-3 of them at 1GB/s over a usb-c spltter to the one port

>why not just open your PC
Because I'm a lazy cunt and anything I get for the PC is paid for by my company

>>101231108
Any NVMe drive you like in a 20Gbps capable enclosure

>>101231061
It depends on how retarded at computers you are. People who can't figure their wat out of a prebuilt are the ones going to be complaining about drivers in 2024 when WDDMs has literally solved the problem since ages ago.

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>>101230983
X3D is completely fine with a wraith prism

>>101231061
It seems like you already regret the purchase.
You're in good company.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/since%20I%20switched%20from%20a%203070%20to%20a%207800xt/

>>101231253
It's not H2O that is in those tubes...

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>>101231311
>the colloquial term is watercooling
>everyone calls them "watercoolers"
>buildzoid writes "H2O" in a chart
>retards complain about it
<you are here
>retards kill themselves because no one fucking cares

Hey anons, I'm the one from >>101183576
I found out what was the problem: I did not press the CPU enough for it to connect into the mobo

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>>101231311
>>101231362
>not using molecularly perfect H2O to cool your computer

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>>101231061
Yes, Buy a 4070 super to-day!

>>101230964
>Netac NV7000
This AliEx SSD is actually good? I guess the only thing is I can't expect warranty out of it

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>>101227731
OP is spam.

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>>101227731
Heyo, I'm looking to upgrade my whole rig, this is what I've been running since 2018. I have a $3k/$4k max budget (including monitor/s) and I'm thinking about gaming/productivity at 1440p and I got a couple of questions.

I know I should wait for the latest Ryzen 9000X3D/Intel 15th gen processors and AMD's RDN4 and Nvidia's Blackwell hardware to drop, but is the latest stuff really that much of an improvement over what's available right now?
Also, I'm looking to run a dual monitor setup (one of them portrait) but I want to know if single curved monitors are really that better or just a meme?

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Looks like AMD still can't get its reconstruction shit together. It's funny that the usual retards like AG praise the moderate at best improvement like the second coming of christ, especially when DLSS has already been better than FSR 3.1 for five years.

>>101231614
>Multiple hardware versions found. Performance could vary due to unannounced flash/controller changes.
as always take it with a grain of salt, do your research

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>>101231846
amd is a joke. even intel software runs better on amd hardware than their own software

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>>101231692
>OP is spam. Look at my MS paint scribbles to see why you're moronic.

>>101231061

if by chance you have 1440p screen, check wayland 200%, you might like it

>>101231846
>>101231866
they all look bad. TAA should be turned off.

>>101231799
Ryzen 9000X3D won't be until CES, despite what latest rumors say
Ryzen 9000 is approx 5-20% over current gen, clock for clock, and it runs the same clocks, pretty unexciting but a nice bump -- still, Ryzen 7800X3D is the best gaming chip out now and probably will be the rest of the year, unless Arrow Lake is incredible

Intel Arrow Lake will be later this year and might be a pretty big step up in performance, but it will be more about efficiency (i.e. reaching current perf without sucking 400W)

AMD RDNA4 is a big question mark at this time

NVIDIA's next-gen parts are going to be disappointing and overpriced based on the latest leaks; no change in memory bus configurations which means they'll have all the same compromises of the current cards -- there also haven't been any big advancements teased for Blackwell, it looks like a similar release vis-a-vis Ada Lovelace as Zen 5 is to Zen 4

I would advise you to wait until the end of next month when Ryzen 9000 comes out and you can probaly pick up some current-gen AM5 stuff pretty cheap

I don't know what you mean by "single curved monitors", I have six monitors on my desk (all same machine) and two of them are curved -- curved monitors are great for immersion in first-person games

>>101231906
Retarded. Even at 4K you don't have enough pixels to forgo antialiasing. And you can't run new games at 4K anyway, to say nothing of higher resolutions

>>101231866
>even intel software
And especially MATROX software.

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>>101231933
back in my day we didnt have 4k or taa we just had good ol msaa or smaa.

Is driving a 1440p display with an AMD A10-5800K APU a bad idea?

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>>101231957
back in MY day we didn't even have fucking MSAA, because it hadn't been invented yet
we had RGSSAA and we fucking loved it

>>101231962
fine for normal desktop shit, browsing etc -- slow-ass dual core CPU though

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>>101231906
It's actually impossible to turn TAA off without fucking up your games even more.

>>101231957
I compared MSAA to TAA in RDR2, which is one of the most recent games to have it, and TAA was better especially in motion. MSAA basically looks like FSR2, a shimmering, pixelated mess. And of course MSAA is extremely expensive. DLSS was better looking than both (with the latest DLSS DLL), and much cheaper. I like SMAA better than MSAA, but DLSS is still better in the games I've compared, like Baldur's Gate 3

so according to OP wait for september and get a ryzen 9000X3D a motherboard that will support it and a set of 64 gigs of DDR5 ram in only 2 sticks and NEVER 4?
to upgrade from my 12700k

So there is an rx6800 for $360 and a rx7700xt for $370 on amazon in my shithole.
Which one should I get? the 6800 has more vram which seems nice.

>>101231910
Thanks, I'll take all of this into account. Seems like the wisest move is to wait until until the end of the year to see how things go with the new releases.
>I don't know what you mean by "single curved monitors"
I meant a curved monitor, my bad.

>>101231994
sounds like a dev problem and not a "buy a better gpu" problem.

>>101231957
i spoke to crendor and he says to stop posting his image n this website

What are the best X99 boards I can still buy in terms of features/connectivity?

>>101232096
Huananzhi
Some of them even have working M.2 slots.

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>>101232064
LCD monitors experience an effect known as "gamma shift" when viewed at off-axis angles
how severe this effect is depends primarily on the type of panel
TN LCDs fare the worst, with major gamma shifts changing even the colors at off-angles
VA LCDs do better, where it's mostly just the brightness that changes
IPS LCDs do the best, but they still stuffer from this effect, it's just subtle

a curved monitor has another benefit that no one talks about, which is that they largely mitigate this off-axis gamma shift effect because the screen is literally curved to reduce the relative angle from your vision

however, an effect that no one talks about is how curved monitors fuck with your spatial perception
the game that is rendering in 3D is expecting a flat 2D viewport and it is doing perspective-correct rendering for that flat 2D viewport
rendering it on a curved monitor causes the render to become perspective-incorrect because the game cannot account for the curvature of your monitor
this has a small but subtle effect on things like snap aiming and it can cause some people (my wife) to get disoriented more easily in open world games

I definitely recommend trying out a curved monitor before you commit to one if you can

>>101232096
>>>>>>>>X99
time for a new machine chief

>>101232048
6800 for slightly better raster performance and bigger VRAM
7700 for longer driver support and improved raytracing performance
it's your pick captain, there's no "wrong" answer, just which compromise you want to make

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What's a good tool to measure your PC's overall power consumption? I want to optimize my power efficiency.

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>>101232066
Reconstruction is part of the rendering pipeline for modern games. Reconstruction allows better graphics and image quality, not worse. And if you have Geforce, you don't need a better GPU. In fact you can get better than native image quality at higher than native performance with DLSS. DLSS is the reason that Geforce graphics cards offer massively better value than Radeon graphics cards. And if you're not at least on an RTX, you're not playing modern games anyway. A 1080 Ti can't even run native 1080p in UE5 games.

>>101231061
Return it

>>101231030
Really depends on you. They're approximately equivalent in value

>>101230928
Retarded

>>101232187
a ups

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>>101229081
Not at competitive FPS (e.g., PUBG), but for single player titles, mostly yes. Really the 3080 was the first decent 4K card

Is anyone else tired of redditors here who do nothing but quote YouTube videos? These niggas never read a spec sheet or documentation in their life but they can't stop showing charts and color marker highlights like they're in grade school.

>>101232245
>Really the 3080 was the first decent 4K card
The 290X and 980 Ti's were the first true 4K cards back in the day.

>>101232258
zoomers cant think for themselves

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What do you guys put in your PCIE expansion slots?

>>101232287
nothing but a GPU

Why did AMD never introduce PCIE 3.0 for their FX/A-series CPUs even though it came out in 2010? Why did it take until 2014 for them to have PCIE 3.0 capable CPUs?

>>101232287
PCIE to M.2 cards, with SSD on them.

>>101232287
gpu, network card (because the onboard chip is often poo)

>>101232287
gpu, video capture, m2 adapter

>>101232305
>which is that they largely mitigate this off-axis gamma shift effect because the screen is literally curved to reduce the relative angle from your vision
why are you worrying about things that happened 10 years ago

>>101232287
USB Hub
Audio DAC
Wifi/Bluetooth Card
Capture Card

So the hynix p41 and solidigm p44 pro drives have some issue with the cache not clearing and nuking performance. Has anyone experienced that here?

I demand CAMM2 on my mITX boards

>>101232287
single slot or dual slot gpu
network/wifi/bluetooth card
sound card
usb/usbc/thunderbolt expansion card
capture card
firewire card
maybe a raid card

the works

>>101231906
The aliasing and shimmering you get from turning off AA is more distracting than any negative effects of TAA-based technologies.
>inb4 just use MSAA or SSAA
Not a bad idea, except in realistic scenarios you're not gonna do this because it's like 10x more performance intensive than TAA lol.

>>101232343
I have the 2tb p44 pro and it works as advertised. The NVME driver is supposed to work better than the default windows driver.

>>101232323
>why are you worrying about things that happened 10 years ago
Because it would be nice not to be gimped on transfer speeds when using pre-PSP hardware.

>capture card
>network card
>usb expansion card
>audio dac/sound card
>pcie to m.2 card
What are some good ones that I can buy?

>>101232381
>pre-PSP hardware
im assuming you dont mean playstation portable by that

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>>101228869
For $200, you can get a 1440p monitor, and as long as you're getting a Geforce graphics card (which you should be), DLSS will allow you to easily use said monitor. It's always better to turn your base resolution (whatever you can run) into a higher resolution with DLSS, like in pic related.

Personally, I would increase the total budget. You can get some substantially better hardware for a couple of hundred more. The AOC Q27G3XMN has passable HDR for only $280, and it's currently available (been sold out since launch). After that, pic up a 4070 Super. If you really can't spend that much, get the monitor (as the monitor is one of the longest lasting components of the system and you can grow into it), punt with a 4060 non-Ti, and upgrade the graphics card in three years. Definitely not worth wasting your money on a 1080p monitor.

>>101228107
Are you gaming? I don't like the 4060 Ti. You're likely overspending on CPU relative to GPU. Rebalancing to an R5 7600 and 32 GB DDR5 will let you get a 4070 Super.

>>101227823
If you're ok with FSR, the graphics card is fine. You'll be using FSR constantly. It's worth it to get the 4070 Super for the increase in performance and DLSS in my opinion. Also the SSD is weak. Get the MP44 or the SN770.

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>>101232187
just get a kill-a-watt

>>101232210
>he actually drinks the reconstruction kool-aid
get-a-load-of-this-guy.jpg

you watch too much digital foundry, kid

>>101232287
SSDs with U.2 riser cards

>>101232305
there were boards at that time that advertised PCIe 3.0 -- I believe one of the ASUS SABERTOOTH boards did -- but the reason is probably because those chips were dogshit and nobody wanted them

>>101232408
he means "private security processor", he's a paranoiac tinfoil hat weirdo

>>101232408
That anon is probably talking about AMD's equivalent to Intel Management Engine, the hardware (((backdoor))) units on CPUs that "muh freedom" schizos screech about

>>101232404
>pcie to m.2 card
Jeyi

>>101232404

for maximizing futureproofing, check supported hardware list of your favorite rom flasher software

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>>101232258
>read a spec sheet
Reading a spec sheet will make you think an FX 9590 is still a reasonable CPU. What matters is how the hardware performs, and in the case of GPUs, how good the associated software is.

>>101232272
They were weak for 4K
3080 was 60 FPS in everything at 4K (or pretty much everything sans RT) when it came out, which was something that the 2080 Ti couldn't say for itself

>>101232441
I've been using reconstruction since RTX 20, and I learned then what retards still refuse to admit now: it looks better than native and it performs better than native.

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>>101232539
you are a notorious NVIDIA shill
I own literally three dozen GPUs from the last three AMD and NVIDIA families, as well as one example every Arc GPU
I have seen it all, in every scenario, at every setting
reconstruction is blurry bullshit in the best case
kill yourself for being a brand-loyal tribalist

>>101232450
>>101232441
https://plethora.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=158372
There is a real national security concern with these backdoors.

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>manufacturers are already announcing arrrowlake mobo
Companies are getting way too excited. they all seem to be prioritize arrowlake than zen5 even though arrowlake will launch 3 months later

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>>101232596
The moment Radeon can get its reconstruction shit together and offer a discount for its inferior RT performance, lack of noise scrubbing, lack of HDR features, etc. I'll be recommending Radeon. I'm not a brand loyalist, and yes I've owned both Radeon and Geforce. And because I've owned Radeon, I know first hand how garbage it is.

Face it: reconstruction is a nearly mandatory part of gaming these days, on par with adaptive sync.

>>101232663
I hope they actually include features this time instead of stripping down and segmenting stuff even more.

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>>101232663
In 20A, we trust

>>101232663
For motherboard manufacturers, Intel's strategy to change sockets more often is a big plus for them. The market size is always big when the socket changes.
AMD's socket longevity is good for consumers but there are fewer and fewer customers for each successive generation of chipset so it's no wonder manufacturers are giving no attention to Zen 5.

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>>101232669
mandatory says who? I don't have a problem running games in native 4K without reconstruction or shitty blurry TAA
do you play AAA garbage like Hellblade or Alan Wake 2? then yeah, I imagine you probably do see reconstruction as "mandatory" (even though even those titles will run fine without it)
personally, I'll stick to actual fun games instead of engine demos and pseudo-interactive films with woke messaging and shitty unfun tacked-on "gameplay"

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>>101232633
>The problem with this solution is that the shores on its island of freedom are slowly being swallowed by the tide. Distributions are gradually beginning to flirt with "x86_64v2"/"x86_64v3" with the eventual prospect of dropping "x86_64v1" (i.e. x86 processors that don't have Intel ME or AMD PSP).

>Coreboot along with ME_cleaner find themselves increasingly ceding ground in order to be able to bootstrap newer products. Even the lauded Libreboot has folded and implemented a "blob minimization policy". That's right, Libreboot now implements black box blobs. In my perspective, Intel (and AMD) are eventually going to win the battle to stamp out uncontrolled x86

grim

>>101232737
We've been over this. If you want to play pixelshit, more power to you. You also don't need a better graphics card than a GTX 1060, so you're not involved in this discussion

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>>101232783
>dragon's dogma 2
>pixelshit

Does anyone here own a TUF 4090? I'm a little worried about coil whine.

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>>101232809
>playing the garbage that is dd2
https://youtu.be/VvhdU4q6drA?si=qoYhjlIbYt4dtjxw&t=528
The game can't even keep a locked 60 FPS with a 7800X3D. Your standards are lower than DD2's frametimes

Are 360Hz monitors worth it over 240Hz IPS panels right now?

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Currently have R9 3900x, 2070 super, 64gb 3200mhz, 42tb in spinning disks, 4tb in ssd.

And I am in need of a upgrade, after 4 years.

are new gpu's still expected by end of year, or early next year?

I'm thinking of doing my next rig around a r9 9950X, + flag ship NVIDIA or amd GPU, in a sspc. maybe a bit bigger upto 30l.

Anyone have recommendations for ssfc pc cases that work well with liquid cooling?

I can't seem to fine any that are not shit in terms of airflow. thinking of building my own.

>>101232818
everything has coil whine

>>101232918
i don't care, framgen black magic makes the game more than playable at all times on a fucking 5600

Ultra 7 270K + 5080

>>101232923
budget <1000 for the case, country is America. probably just going to build my own though.

>>101232663
After getting their hands on an engineering sample, they realize zen5 will have no chance so they abandon amd. its over.

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>>101232918
like I said, you watch too much digital foundry
the game plays fine, and even moreso after the patch the other day that smoothed things out quite a bit
also, digital foundry doesn't do standard PC gaymen shit like disabling defender and virtualization-based security, their frametimes are always shit compared to anyone who takes 1 minute to actually tweak their system for gaming
I get it, not everyone does that, but those of us who do don't experience most of the shit they complain about

>>101232923
Blackwell is expected early next year or very late this year, RDNA4 is who fucking knows at this point, maybe canceled, Intel Battlemage by holiday

I assume you mean "SFF PC"? 30L isn't really SFF heh
but don't go SFF, it seems fun until you do it and then it's a miserable fucking mess anytime you have to get into it to do anything
go with a relatively compact micro-ATX case, you can still make it very small (e.g. MasterBox Q300L) and yet still have enough room to work in the damn thing

>>101232934
true!

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>>101232945
Update your script
It's the Ultra 7 265K now

>>101232923
What's wrong with the Lian Li A4-H2O?
Also the SFF (((community))) considers sub-20L as SFF and even that's cutting it close
Most would say the soft limit on volume is closer to 15L

Ultra 7 265K + 5080

me trying to resist the urge to buy up old cheap amd fx and a-series apus right now instead of spending that money on buying modern hardware and peripherals

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>>101232939
>>101232993
Frame Generation doesn't fix stuttering. Again, your standards are lower than DD2's frametimes. Just because you can brute force an ugly, last generation chink game like DD2 at 4K with a 4080 or 4090 doesn't mean reconstruction isn't necessary or desirable for modern games, especially if you want to play them cost effectively

>standard PC gaymen shit like disabling defender and virtualization-based security
Snake oil

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>>101233105
Get an 8370(e), an am3+ board you don't care about, a silver arrow and CRANK IT. Get that shit screaming like the waifu you always dreamed of at 5ghz. If you can also track down either a gtx 480 or if you are truly, insanely, ludicrously brace an msi 390x. Note it has to be the msi 390x model.

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Still rocking an Ivy Bridge. What are modern CPU like? I can play any video games fine...

>>101232993
>standard PC gaymen shit like disabling defender and virtualization-based security
>I get it, not everyone does that, but those of us who do don't experience most of the shit they complain about
Things dumbasses (gaymers) are advised to not do. So of course they don't. Might give a little bit CPU benefit, but when you're at that point that it matters, you're fucked anyway. You're playing slop of the highest level with worse code than yandere simulator.

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What's a good software to test my PC build. User benchmark seems pretty cool

>>101233205
>Get that shit screaming like the waifu you always dreamed of at 5ghz
but anon my main concern is getting the best performance per watt and saving the motherboard which i need for features
there is an entire graveyard of dead lga 775 and am3+ 990fx mobos out there on the used market

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>>101233294
>>101233120
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-vbs-harms-performance-rtx-4090
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-vbs-gaming-performance/
VBS is security theater bullshit and anyone who advises others to use it should kill themselves IMMEDIATELY

>>101233273
you know how sometimes when you launch an application and the window comes up and it's blank for just like a half-second before the app actually appears and you can use it? that doesn't happen on modern machines
you know how when you launch a game sometimes it has a loading period before you even get to the main menu? that takes a couple of seconds on modern machines
you know how you make a big ZIP file and it takes forever? I can crunch ZIPs at >125 MB/second on my current-gen box. it's pretty sweet considering I have to make bigass 10GB zip files for my job all the time because my boss is a retard
but the biggest benefit, of course, is the improved worst-case frametimes in games -- even if the average FPS isn't that different (but it is, really), the smoothness is much improved, you don't see nearly as many of those little hitches and stutters that you see in current games on a modern machine

>>101233314
OCCT to test stability
ATTO and CrystalDiskMark to test SSD speed
CrystalMark Retro for a fun whole-system benchmark
your favorite video game to test game performance

>>101233273
>I can play any video games fine...
You can probably get 60FPS in a lot of games but the stutters are undeniable.
>What are modern CPU like?
Feels smooth. I remember in 2017 I upgraded from my 2500k to a 1700x. I still had my 760. The GPU was shit but I had smooth framerates in every game, with my heavy multitasking. I'd play games in 1440p-4k, so that GPU could at best muster 30fps in such games. But a solid frametime with 30fps is a lot better than 200ms stutters even if you have 60fps otherwise.

>>101233314
Probably trolling. Everyone knows it's trash.

>>101233314
Passmark
3DMark
OCCT
FurMark
UniEngine Heaven
FutureMark
CrystalMark

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>>101233381
>>101233386
>>101233390
Thanks Kings

>>101232993
"small form factor' trying for about 15l, but will be fine with upto 30l just want to keep it smaller this time.

>>101233036
Lian Li A4-H2O

nothing wrong with it desu, just not what I like.

>>101233314
3dmark
https://www.3dmark.com
pcmark
https://benchmarks.ul.com/pcmark10
demoscene
https://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platform%5B%5D=Windows&page=1
hw acceleration shaders
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/WsSBzh

>>101233381
>>101233386
Yeah would be nice to get a slightly smoother experience. I feel like I keep on holding back and thinking "oh just wait for next year tech".

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>>101233381
>we're still looking at a 5% loss on average in gaming performance.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-vbs-harms-performance-rtx-4090
Did you know that you could get 31.5 FPS in DD2 instead of 30 FPS?
Snake oil

>>101233381
>we're still looking at a 5% loss on average in gaming performance
>average frame rate increases were in the single-digit range — around 5-6% on average
So... Not a lot, like I said. When you're at that point, performance is gonna be bad anyway. A decently coded game should run at 120+fps on a 5800x.

>VBS is security theater bullshit
Well, mostly yes. All security features are pretty trash compared to common sense 2024. But there's a lot of retards and a tiny bit of help can save them sometimes.

>>101233441
Probably not so slight. Assuming you're doing stuff with your computer.
But I jumped at the chance of a 8c/16t as soon as I could since I need the CPU power.

>>101232426
>Get the MP44 or the SN770
What's the difference with the P3 plus?

>>101233510
It doesn't matter for normie desktop use and gaming. Hell, NVME SSDs barely matter VS SATA. Unless you're fucking with DBs you won't notice.
Might wanna go for a 2TB though if you play modern games though.

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what happens when you stop using directx and start using vulkan and other apis.

"Shader compiler on the PlayStation side is extremely fast".

"Pretty complex".

"Speedier performance"

https://x.com/JamiesAct/status/1807869694139158688?t=Oi9OBNW4fCvvwChyS9mWyQ&s=19

>>101233510
Way way faster for about the same price

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>>101233441
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3fd47R
do something like this homie, it's a cheap build that doesn't skimp on core components so, in a year or two, you can drop the latest AM5 CPU and whatever GPU into it and be riding top of the line

>>101233469
>>101233470
it's about smoothness, of course, not the 5% average FPS gain
also,
>snake oil
you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

>>101227731
>RX 6600;
third world bros, is a used RX 6600 the best bang for my buck?
it's a 2021 card so at 150 euros i believe it's a decent buy.

>>101233634
Yeah sure if you've only got €150 it's about as good as you can do without going used.

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This SU-3057V is like $19 and claims to offer 7 USB 3.0 5 GBPS ports, is this a good value expansion card or are the Chinese being deceitful insectoids as usual?

>>101233709
from my experience with chinese tech goods it is probably real and will probably work fine for about a month

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>>101233585
Snake oil refers to the excuses that retarded deflectors bring up to excuse the known terrible DD2 performance. The retarded chink devs are the only ones who can improve it, and now months after launch they are still trying. Or do you think the better minimums actually aren't due to the patch (spoiler: they are), and instead DF turned off Windows Defender in the interim (they didn't)? DD2 is garbage from a performance and technology standpoint.

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>Or do you think the better minimums actually aren't due to the patch (spoiler: they are), and instead DF turned off Windows Defender in the interim (they didn't)?
no bitch. dats a whole new sentence. wtfs is you talkin about

>another digital foundry screencap
mfw

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>>101233841
I win, now let me get back to reminding you that your graphics card isn't strong enough for anything modern. And no, ugly DD2 doesn't count as modern

>>101233875
>some shovel ware knock off dark souls that not even a 4090 hits 60 FPS in
if i cant even get 60 4K spending 2.5 grand why should i care to play it at all?

>>101233555
>Might wanna go for a 2TB though if you play modern games though
I have to cut costs somewhere, I'll just buy another 1TB if i need it later on.

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>>101230496
Get a fractal d7, faggot.

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>>101233928
Because with the miracle of DLSS, you can easily get better than native image quality along with higher performance in current games

>>101233929
>I have to cut costs somewhere, I'll just buy another 1TB if i need it later on.
I'm thinking about this too, but I'll also have to unseat my GPU TWICE to do that. Absolutely soul crushing to my lazy self.

>>101233960
DLSS in your screenshot looks like shit and its not running the game at 4k then its running it at 1440p and up scaling it

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>>101234000
>DLSS in your screenshot looks like shit
You can say this all you want
Doesn't change reality

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>>101233875
>all games must be played in ultra settings
>when it's well established that high is generally exactly the same image quality for double the performance
>using Lords of the Fallen as an example
>"better than native"
you are hilarious my dude
got a response for the fact that DLSS causes games to cut LODs clearly reducing visible detail and breaking mods?

>>101234011
its literally there in your screenshot all jagged plain as day

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>>101233960
Upscaling looks like shit. Use native you faggot.

Don’t know where to ask this but went to pick up my PC from getting fixed today and accidentally left it against the cold fans on the back seats for an hour long car ride and there was condensation and light dew all over inside, be honest how fucked is my stuff if I just airdry it now

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>>101234025
>got a response
Yeah, in fact I inb4'd you

2/3s of the tested games >>101234000 have better than or equivalent to native image quality, while having higher performance while using DLSS

>>101234045
You seem confused. What you retards call native is TAA (and if you eally mean no AA, you're double the retard), and it's in the screenshot. DLSS is obviously as good as native (actually better), while being faster
https://youtu.be/uON6kH3XTwI?si=jA4_tsscdoNEkB0T&t=208

>>101234050
>FSR looks like shit
FTFY. DLSS looks great on average

>>101234000
True, but Starfield just looks like shit in general, who the fuck is playing that slop for graphics?

>>101234141
> Yeah, in fact I inb4'd you
you literally completely failed to address the complaint
you are an insect

>>101234162
Every reply is a rupee in his account.

>>101234141
all of this is irrelevant cause i dont use FSR DLSS or frame gen and i never will

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>>101234206
that's probably true
I got work to be doing anyway

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>>101234162
I don't have to, because I can already prove that DLSS Quality at 1440p or 4K is better than or equivalent to native 2/3s of the time >>101234011.

But I can also directly refute your LoD claim with >>101232426 to add salt to the wound. I've never come across any mods broken by DLSS, so it's not common, if it even occurs at all

And I can further prove that DLSS allows better image quality because it allows the use of better rendering techniques like RT or PT

Thanks to whatever genius threw the 500hz 1440 Alienware QD-OLED in the list of approved monitors in the OP knowing that it has constant adaptive sync tearing and flickering that you can’t turn off. Can’t imagine how many happy chappies spent 800 dollons on that because of you

>>101234025
>all games must be played in ultra settings
>when it's well established that high is generally exactly the same image quality for double the performance
Sounds like AMD problems to me.

What is the default PPT limit of the 7800X3D?? Can't seem to find this info anywhere.

>>101234264
Do you even need adaptive sync at 500 fps? I turned it off on my 240hz panel and I literally cannot tell the difference.

>>101234320
88W

server parts are really fuckin cheap
what's the catch?

>>101234341
Old server parts are cheap. Catch is poor low-thread performance and compatibility juggling. Still some great deals to be had if you can work around the downsides.

>>101234341
it's old, it's slow, it's a power hog and requires custom cooling for pretty much every component

>>101234320
For modern AMD CPUs, take the TDP and add 35% to get PPT

>>101233724
>from my experience with chinese tech goods
Such as?

so should iwait and get a ryze 9000x#D to upgrade my 12700k?
yes i know ill need a new motherboard

>>101234397
Your CPU is pretty good as it is, highly advise waitfagging, maybe even one more gen unless you really want something better.

Do high refresh rate monitors help in simulator racing?

>>101234397
Zen 5 X3D isn't coming out until the Fall at the earliest around the same time as Arrow Lake
Wait for benchmarks of both and decide what platform you want since you'll need a new motherboard for either

>>101234388
Except the 7800X3D for some reason has 65W Eco Mode permanently enabled.

>>101234411
well the only other thing i want for my PC is a mini TARDIS console that lights up and moves up and down when the CPU is taxed but i dont think that exists

alright here’s my current build

cpu: 7800X3D
cooler: peerless assassin 120 SE (would be removed if AIO)
mb: ASRock livemixer
ram: g.skill trident z5 neo 64gb
ssd: Hynix platinum 2TB
gpu: using the OC ROG 4090 as a placeholder. would be using a ROG matrix in a perfect world
case: lancool III
psu: Seasonic prime TX
monitor: asus PG27AQDP when it comes out in a few months

i dislike the aesthetics on the RAM and the motherboard (specifically because you can’t pick the paint splatter color scheme and it’s color coded to your fucking CPU chipset like an ICP album or some shit) but i’m okay sacrificing aesthetics for function because i’m not a PC builder to begin with and mostly care about high framerates and great image quality

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>AMD made India their largest R&D center
>Meanwhile NVidia and Intel double down their investment in Israel
do amd really think they can compete like this?

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>>101234396
>12+2 port USB 3.0 hub
worked amazing for about 5 months, then it wouldn't do 3.0 anymore, only 2.0 on all ports
amazon wouldn't do a refund
>2 drive SATA dock
worked for literally 1 day past the return period, now it will only see one drive
>multiple different brands of chinese knockoff xbox gamepads
all shitted out in various ways, but the most common is that the sticks just drift like crazy
>desktop vacuum tube amplifier
turned out to just be a boring Class D solid-state amp with a pair of vacuum tubes sticking out the top lit by orange LEDs underneath
>various USB cables
work to varying degrees, frequently won't do anything better than 3.0 (5V/1.8A, no quick charge)
>knockoff 4K/144 monitor
has significant uniformity issues and only does 4K120 out of the box, you have to manually overclock to get 144
>vibrating tail butt plug
yes, really - vibrating motor died in not even a month and I only ever used it twice

just this shit off the top of my head but there's definitely more

>>101234415
>does seeing more of the game help?

I have a 3060 ti and 5600x, and use a 1440p144hz monitor. I do not mind using upscaling and consider games to be running like shit below 80 fps. With that in mind, which would I be better off upgrading for gaming? The cpu upgrade would be a 5800x3d for 340€ as I'm not looking to upgrade my mobo, and the gpu would probably be a 4070 Super for around 700€
5800x3d sounds great for the performance but considering my res I'm not sure if a 4070s might be a better choice to upgrade.

>>101234522
>12+2 port USB 3.0 hub
Sounds familiar, do you remember the brand name? I'd like to avoid no-name Chinesium brands at all costs if possible when buying shit like adapters and expansion cards.

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>We totally didn't rush zen5 out the door because we're scared of arrowlake

>paying more and more each rebuild to achieve the same fps

imagine falling for the 'gaming pc' scam

>>101234657
it was an orico -- they ignored my e-mails asking for support btw

>the ASRock B650M-HDV/M2 is now either $200+ or sold out
do these things restock or something? or is there a good alternative to it?

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>>101234637
well, the 3060 Ti shouldn't be struggling at 1440p unless you really want those high-end graphics features
I don't use FG, but you could invest some time into learning about FSR3 and/or Lossless Scaling's frame generation; they might get you to the high FPS you want
does your monitor support variable refresh rate? are you using it? there's no sane reason you should need 80 FPS to be satisfied with the motion fluidity of a VRR presentation, but if you AREN'T using VRR then 80 FPS happens to be double 40 FPS, which is the threshold for fluidity for most people (42-43 FPS more accurately), so if you're playing a game with shit frame pacing then 80 FPS is what you need for sure, but, you know
tl;dr upgrade your CPU for better 1% lows and improved smoothness, upgrade your GPU for better averages and better support for modern graphics fetaures
(also try turning textures down one notch to "High" instead of "Ultra" on your 8GB GPU, it'll help a lot)

>>101234702
pic related

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK
whoever mentioned the idea of DDUing my existing Studio drivers and updating to the latest for my 3060 Ti was right, it finally fucking fixed the power draw on this thing
before it was pulling at least 2-3x the wattage in gaymes and around 50-90-111 watts idle, now it only idles at 18-19 watts, playing source games it rarely pulls more than 75 watts
HOLY FUCK WHY DID I NOT DO THIS SOONER I COULD HAVE SAVED SO MUCH ON ELECTRICITY BILLS OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS OR SOME SHIT (maybe not) PURELY BECAUSE OF NVIDIA'S STUPID FUCKING DRIVERS I mean yeah they worked but like 536.99 to 555.99 literally saves me like 75 watts at minimum in desktop on a balanced power plan compared to >>101175937

>>101234891
sometimes updooting can be a good thing
let this be a (hopefully not too costly lesson) not to blindly trust nvidia drivers just bc they are not ayymd drivers

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Why are SSDs retardedly expensive compared to nvmes? Shit's sometimes even more expensive than the nvmes.
I'm working on a new 3D project that will require me to create tons of assets in high res textures and whatnot. My PC only has 2 nvme slots which are already occupied yet I have plenty of SSD slots.
The thing is that the autist inside me thinks that spending more for an inferior product makes me feel stupid, even if I don't really need the superior speeds of nvmes (although I would greatly benefit from it).
I was even thinking of buying an M.2 to SSD adapter, buy the superior storage and it would still be around the same price, even if the NVME wouldn't be connected to the PCIe directly.
Or maybe getting a PCIe to NVMe adapter? But I don't know how good those things are.
Dunno, I just wanted to read your thoughts. I need 2TB or higher.

>>101235007
You are aware that nvme drives are ssds too right anon?

>>101235033
Yes, but I think everyone understands that when I say SSD I mean your typical 2.5 drive and when I say NVMe it means the chips.

>>101235007
okay, wait, you have your terminology all fucked up
let's go over some terms:

"disk" or "disk drive" - a somewhat anachronistic term, refers to any storage media

"HDD" - a "hard disk drive", refers specifically to storage media using spinning magnetic disks to store data; however, due to habit, some people and software refer to any fixed (i.e. non-removable) disk as a "hard disk"

"SSD" - a "solid state disk" or "solid state drive", refers to a type of storage device that stores data on "solid state" media (read: computer chips) instead of spinning disks or etc

"PCIe" - PCI Express, the most common type of internal interconnect for devices inside PCs; a serial point-to-point link that can be deployed in parallel "lanes" for increased throughput

"NVMe" - stands for "Non Volatile Memory Express" and refers to a communication standard used between host systems (computers, usually CPUs) and storage devices that communicate using PCI Express (thus "express") and store data using non-volatile memory (usually flash memory)

"M.2" - formerly known as NGFF, refers to a small slot that can be used for USB, Serial, SATA, SPI, or PCI Express connections

2.5" and 3.5" - two and a half or three and a half inches, refers to the size of common computer disk drives; 2.5" is mostly for SSDs and laptop drives, while 3.5" is almost exclusively for desktop and server hard drives

>>101235076
no nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about

>>101235112
Using SSDs as a blanket term for the non-hard disk 2.5 form factor has been a norm since SSDs were introduced. You're too anal.

>>101235112
Thanks for the thorough explanation while not being useful at all.

>>101235212
it's what I do

>>101235176
FUCK SAKE ANON, I just need to know why flippity floopies are so expensive next to snizzles and I need a good turbo enaculator to adapt a snizzle to utilise a spare bwop slot on my motherboard - is this too much to ask!?

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how much desk sag is too much? the middle is bowing about 2.5mm

>>101235176
no literally no one does this
I have been building PCs for 37 years
I have never heard anyone do this ever

>>101235212
are you talking about 2.5" SATA drives? most of the cheap NVMe drives aren't even really going to be faster than SATA drives for anything beyond a bulk file copy operation; there's a reason they are so cheap

PCIe to M.2 adapters are fine, just make sure your M.2 SSD is in fact an NVMe drive and not M.2 SATA

and there's no speed loss with a PCIe to M.2 adapter because those adapters are literally just wires and circuit board, it's PCIe either way, which is why they're so cheap (like :10bux:)

as far as your autism, I can't help there, but there's nothing wrong with buying the storage you have room for; if you have six empty SATA ports and you need a bunch of solid-state storage, buy six SATA SSDs, it's not like they're that much more expensive and it's more practical than trying to figure out some way to nigger-rig a bunch of NVMe storage into a machine that isn't equipped for it

you could also just be like me and buy one of these: https://www.amazon.com/SOLIDIGM-D5-P5430-15-36-TB-Intensive/dp/B0C6BR89C2
along with one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099185SSV

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>>101235268
better image maybe

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>>101235285
>:10bux:

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>>101235285
bit cheaper at PCNation:
https://www.pcnation.com/solidigm-sbfpf2bu153t001-12ra19

>>101235268
>>101235286
anyone
surely tehre are some desk experts here

>>101235285
Ok, thanks! No shipping to my cunt, sadly.
So I guess I'm going with a 2.5 2TB SATA. Any recs for 3D projects (rendering, loading up files to engines, transfering textures, etc)?

>>101235300
>DOCTOR HYNIGONAPUS
*BLLLGGHHHHH*

What are the best "cheap" 360Hz IPS monitors?

>>101235413
chief my desk is a $45 plastic outdoor folding table from walmart
been using it for 11 years
dunno what to tell you mayne

>>101235437
the go-to 2.5" SSD is the Crucial MX500, but it can be surprisingly expensive - other drives in the same tier are the Samsung 860/870, PNY CS2311, Sandisk Ultra 3D, Hynix Gold S21, and Lexar NS200
decent drives include Addlink S20, HP S700 Pro, Kingston UV500, Team L5 Lite 3D, PNY CS1311, Mushkin Reactor (not triactor), or any Seagate SSD
in 2024, SATA SSDs don't really have wildly varying capabilities anymore, pretty much everything will max out a SATA connection on sequentials, and random accesses are limited by the AHCI protocol that SATA uses, so it really doesn't make that much difference
the #1 thing I will tell you is to KEEP A FUCKING OFFSITE BACKUP so if lightning blows up your PC or your home floods you don't lose everything
that means "cloud" or whatever file host you want, I like MEGA because they give you lots of room for free and it's end-to-end encrypted, they have no idea what you have on your MEGA account

>>101235413
here you go anon
https://www.cedengineering.com/userfiles/Determining%20Allowable%20Design%20Values%20for%20Wood%20R1.pdf
this should be self-explanatory

>>101235490
What's the main difference between the Crucial MX500 and BX500? Because the BX500 seems to be right within my budget.
I can always leave some space free in my main drive and transfer the files over to the BX500.

>>101233709
Assuming its using PCIe 3.0 x1, the max bandwidth is enough for 1.4 of those ports at full speed

>>101235577
BX500 is a budget drive, it's relatively slow because it uses QLC or "quad layer cell" flash memory, which means each flash cell stores four values (instead of 1, 2, or 3) -- this makes it both slower and less durable/reliable -- I would not store application data or OS data on a BX500 but it can be okay for bulk storage; it's still faster than a hard drive most of the time

>>101235268
it looks fine to me

>>101235605
What about PCIe 2.0 x1?

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/nvidia-could-receive-french-ban-hammer-antitrust-charges-may-follow-government-raids-of-nvidias-offices-in-france?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow

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>>101235577
BX500 has no dram and since its SATA you can't use HMB
tl;dr it can be very slow under certain workloads, comparable to other SATA SSDs in others

>>101235606
>>101235722
Hmm, maybe not ideal.
How about the Acer Predator GM7000-2TB? It's like 40% cheaper here compared to other brands and I can always go with the PCIe adapter option.

>>101235643
0.8

>>101235606
BX500 is TLC

Is the ViewSonic XG2431 ($385) worth the price premium over the VG249QM1A ($260)?

>>101235726
Predator GM7000 is a very fast PCIe 4.0 SSD using the InnoGrit IG5236 controller, it's current/modern upper-midrange stuff -- goes for $140 in the US (2TB)

>>101235747
NewMaxx says TLC/QLC - I suspect any on the market now are QLC versions

>>101235794
>>101235794
>>101235794

>>101235778
>$385 for 24in 1080p
??

>>101235778
they are nearly identical monitors; the viewsonic may have slightly better colors but eh -- like >>101235800 said, $385 is a lot for a 24" 1080p monitor

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>>101234637
>which would I be better off upgrading for gaming?
Always run hardware monitoring to determine this. If you're playing graphically demanding games, the 3060 Ti is almost always the limiting factor, even with upsampling. You can run hardware monitoring using MSI Afterburner + RTSS, or you can use the Geforce overlay if you have it properly enabled. Basically, if the GPU is at or near 100% utilization, it's the limit, and a better CPU won't help much, if at all.

>>101234834
>also try turning textures down one notch to "High" instead of "Ultra" on your 8GB GPU
Most of the time, this will have no effect

>>101235007
>Or maybe getting a PCIe to NVMe adapter?
That is the best option. Not worth buying a non-NVMe SSD.

>>101235176
No. I've heard computer illiterates refer to their SSD as their hard drive though

>>101235778
>ViewSonic XG2431
It has a good ULMB mode. Not sure about the other monitor, but you've got to be using monopoly money if you're paying almost $400 for a 1080p monitor