Why are auspost so slow? Oh well quest 2 and 79xtx next week now! Hopefully just in time before i go back to work

Last week I bought a 4070 Ti Super. Thought I let you guy know.

>>102021845
indeed i also bought a pulse 7900xtx last week yes

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>>102021863

15900K
1 P-core
16 E-cores
700W
buy now for $1899

>>102021812
Rest of it is localized more, and has higher volume, PC parts are very high tech product, it's not produced on a knee.

>>102021828
>quest 2
why? are you sure you want it?

>>102021944
omg daddy intel thanks for cucking me for 8 straight years!

>>102021956
sold my original one and i cant find anything else with 144hz high res even the quest 2 is slower 120hz for slightly higher res

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>>102021903
>>102021887
I get that they are different, length was never an issue for my purposes though, I had width concerns. These would both work for my build. My main reservations are that the Slim looks better and has a higher quality fan.

Here is a similar build style to my own. I will be using Be Quiet fans instead of noctua because I will be doing no overclocking and noise is more important than performance... and Be Quiet is literally less than 1/3rd the cost of noctua.

I have two ideas for my air flow

>>102021961
*quest 3

>>102021961
>>102021968
as long as you know what it is, a lot of people disapointed in VR.

>>102021808
Looks comfy as fuck

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>>102021963
or... the forbidden 3rd option

>>102021944
15900KS
1 P-core at +100MHz higher clock
No E-cores
960W
buy now for $3699

>>102021963
does that rear intake have a dust filter? also that psu is way too big, this is retarded

>>102021982
the steam will vortex and slow air down on the side, you want one direction tube

>>102021985
omg based based baaaased thanks daddy intel for scamming me so hard!!!

>>102021985
ln2 futures skyrocketing

https://x.com/OTKnetwork/status/1826003721442263515
Are subhuman Intel monkey niggers still going to defend this?
People are LOSING MONEY and DESTROYING their career by continuing to use Intel processors for their jobs.

>>102021863
Well done fren

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>>102022017
>playing chinkslop

>>102022017
asmongoloid is a millionaire with a stake in a pc building company. if he wanted to not crash he would just tell them to deliver him a top of the line amd system the next day. this just goes to show how shit video games these days that theyd rather ham this shit up for content than play the actual fucking game lmfao

>>102022017
kek at asmongold's incompetence too
>news has been going on about intel failures for months
>asmongold, being the basement dweller who murdered his mom, couldn't even bother to go and replace his CPU
>game crashes on-stream and he loses viewers and revenue
lmao even

>>102021990
I will have a smaller PSU in mine. This case CAN hold a 170mm psu. I intend to use a 160mm Be Quiet1000w PSU

hang on, that's a 200mm PSU, that's not officially supported, no wonder it's touching the GPU. Why would you do this?

the rear does not have a dust filter, the bottom does.

>>102021991

My issue with the design is that all the airflow comes from two 120mm fans on the bottom and goes through the GPU before reaching the rest of the system.

I was intending to use be quiet shadowwings for all the fans, maybe I should use more powerful intakes?

>>102022064
>>asmongold, being the basement dweller who murdered his mom
what??

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>>102022017
The actual funny thing is that jeet in the replies running a damage control campaign.
People don't call them Inteljeets for nothing

>>102022084
hey why do you keep spamming this image?

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>>102022084
>profile banner is literally an Intel ad
>posts are all just about Intel
It really writes itself does it not?

>>102022067
blocking your front intake with a psu is retarded. get a better case.

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>>102022084
>>102022102
so these jeet shills are the ones who keep spamming /pcbg/ about how arrow lake will "save PC gaming" despite it being basically the same as raptor lake?
pathetic

>>102022120
Intakes are at the bottom of the case>>102022120

>>102022133
yes there are intakes at the bottom of the case, i understand, you're still down front intakes and radiating minor heat from the psu without a shield to boot

>>102022158
>psu shields
when did this become a vital part of a build?

>>102022176
3 front fans with a dust filter for positive pressure beats whatever horror show having your psu there forces you to do

is my phenom affected by sinkclose? are am2/am3 motherboards going to be unsafe to buy without manually flashing affected chips on them going forward?

>>102022233
actually wont even am4 motherboards will raise an eyebrow?

>>102022233
stop using ewaste

>>102022250
i dont use it but i keep it just in case klaus schwab unleashes the cyber pandemic

>>102022258
I don't think you have to worry about sinkclose

>>102022192
>>102022158
>asus prime case
>bad

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>>102022285
its in a nice old beige case i found in a dumpster. this psu later exploded (pbuh) but all the components are still fine, i replaced the fan on a better one by gluing the hard soldered fan wires on it to the connector of a fan i got out of a different dumpster psu

>>102022294
yes. bad.

>>102022357
Are you going to explain it or go full American and just state opinions as facts?

>>102022375
3 front fans with a dust filter for positive pressure beats whatever horror show having your psu there forces you to do

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>>102022390
>3 front fans with a dust filter for positive pressure beats whatever horror show having your psu there forces you to do


>>102022192
>3 front fans with a dust filter for positive pressure beats whatever horror show having your psu there forces you to do

Repeating this just makes you more obviously American.

the entire case is mesh, with the exception of the glass side panel. It's not far off a test bench in terms of air flow.

this is the system with only the rear fan, no intake or top fans.

>no load it's higher!
who cares? check out the performance under load

>>102022446
just use a test bench or leave the side panel off at this point

>>102022446
and that HAF 500 has pre installed fans in the front creating that positive pressure, but under load just having intakes right at the intake of the GPU cooler is more effective

>>102022347
Nice

>>102022017
Its affecting large streamers now?? Intel's reputation as the stable cpu provider is now trashed

>>102022454
>this case is too good! it should be banned reeeee!

air intake next to the GPU intake is better than positive pressure from the front

>>102022525
the case isnt good though, it's a dustbowl, and your psu temperature is going to (albeit minorly) contribute to your cpu temperature if you have a dual tower sucking air from that direction. high maintenance and annoying

>>102022541
>>102022541
dust filter over the intakes.

Love how Americans talk so confidently about things they know nothing about, then when corrected so hard they can't continue the illusion, they make up something else and keep making stuff up

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What's a good IPS monitor with 4k res, 32" size and 120hz refresh rate?

>>102022560
the only way to achieve positive pressure in that case is to slow your exhaust down in general or switch the rear to intake and add a dust filter to it

no fans is kind of a meaningless benchmark for cases desu

>>102022608
My point was that even with no fans, it was better than cases with positive pressure and fans preinstalled.

People freak out so much over a few degrees, as if it really impacts their actual use day top day

>>102022598
>gayest nexus
>lick the tip

>>102022017
Unironically I'd rather have an Intel CPU that crashes than being caught with AMD. AMD has always been for poorfag and a poorfag I am not. My 14900k runs without issues, by the way and I've been playing Monke non stop these past few days, so it sounds to me like an skill issue.

>>102022512
I find hilarious that they still refuse to slash prices, even when their last two generations are crashing with no survivors and they are about to replace them anyway. These shameless jews, man.

>>102022017
He said the game runs without problems in Windows 8, so the problem is Microshit.

>>102022642
>Unironically I'd rather have an Intel CPU that crashes than being caught with AMD
now this is real mental illness
you have to be genuine because no shill would take this angle

>>102022633
>even with no fans
is irrelevant because it's not a flat scale with air moving

>>102022641
linus dick snips
gaymers nexus

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>>102022642
c'mon anon
its too obvious

>>102022598
>IPS monitor with 4k res, 32" size and 120hz refresh rate?
Right now the LG UltraGear 32GR93U-B
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gr93u-b

That said, 32" is not the size where all the action/competition is these days. 27" 4K IPS monitors are faster, cheaper, and sharper. I'd recommend the Gigabyte M28U & KTC H27P22S first.

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Brothers (gooners)
what motherboard (fleshlight) should I get for overclocking (draining) a 12700k (my cock) that also comes with bells and whistles (vibration mode) and is fairly cheap (Money grows on trees for me)?

>>102022822
32" is comfier I upgraded after trying 27"

>>102022902
>12700K
Using DDR4 or DDR5? Also there isn't any real point to manually overclocking modern chips that will tubo boost themselves anyway as long as cooling is sufficient.

>>102022914
Okay then.

>>102022944
to be clear I'm still using a 10700k and overclocking it, but was gonna buy a 12700k because I found a good offer on it. I assumed OCing your chip was still the norm.
I'd be upgrading to DDR5 though.

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Is there something like this plumbing support but for PSU cables so the 12V/2*8 gpu cables are bent neatly?

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>>102022822
Yeah, I did notice that 27" had a lot more options. Checking out a 32" in real life made me feel like it's better for text legibility without having to bump up text scaling so much.

That LG monitor seems to have a lot of people complaining about bad QC online and some are recommending the Dell G3223Q, but that screen is 28% more expensive where I live.

I never know how to handle products with bad reviews, like is it a vocal minority, or an actual big issue?

I gotta say it looks like the best price/performance screen I've seen so far if I can get a good one.

>>102023049
>he uses 12VHPWR
oh no no no no

>>102023099
I thought it was the 2*8 reduction that was burning?

>>102023127
it doesnt matter, the adapters that come with the cards might increase the rate (no one knows) but the #1 culprit for sure we know is cablemod adapters or simply not plugging it in fully

>>102023127
2*8 pin converter cables are safer than two-ended 12vhpwr ones (which can burn on either end)

>>102023045
>to be clear I'm still using a 10700k and overclocking it, but was gonna buy a 12700k because I found a good offer on it. I assumed OCing your chip was still the norm.
Yeah real OC'ing is dead as a practical concept. CPUs don't ship with headroom anymore.
>I'd be upgrading to DDR5 though.
If you are buying just because you got a good deal on a 12700K no reason not to stick with cheap DDR4. The performance difference is middling while the the price for the same capacity kit of DDR5 is basically double last I checked. DDR5 only really makes sense for high-end 13/14th Gen Intel or AM5 chips.

32GB of DDR4-3200CL16 is $49
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7
32GB of DDR5-6000CL30 is $88
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DzRwrH/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-su032gxlwu60afdesk

If you can be convinced of DDR4's value then this is all you need for $95:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TZPQzy/asrock-b660m-pro-rs-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b660m-pro-rs

If you still want DDR5 this the best option @ $124:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pTbTwP/asrock-b760m-pro-rs-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pro-rs

>>102023127
the problem is the 12VHPWR connector, it's designed like nigger trash, simple as.

>>102023053
>I never know how to handle products with bad reviews, like is it a vocal minority, or an actual big issue?
Online reviews will always be biased in the negative direction, keep that in mind. Satisfied buyers rarely are motivated to leave feedback gushing about a product they are happy with compared to those that aren't. If objective professional reviews don't find major faults I wouldn't worry. Just get what's good on paper and pricewise, and send it back if you aren't satisfied.

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Anyone able to give me an answer to this question: >>102006764 please and thanks.

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>>102023354
It supports full speed
gen4 x16 pcie
gen5 x4, gen4 x4 and gen4 x2 m.2. nvme

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>>102023393
Thanks for answering, anon.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000x3d-with-3d-v-cache-now-expected-to-launch-in-january
it's coming September just wait bro
it's coming October just wait bro
it's coming January just wait bro

I built a gaming pc and there were a lot of left over cables that were not needed. I lost those cables should i be worried. My pc runs perfectly

>>102023668
onono

>>102023716
depending on what you lost (PSU cables especially) you may not be able to add extra components/more power hungry components to ur PC

>>102023716
you just started collecting a spare cables pile

congrats on your new burden of life. find somewhere to store them

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>>102023668
I don't give a shit anymore, I'm still set on getting a 9800x3d whenever the fuck it comes out.

>>102023801
Yes most were psu cables i bought the recommended atx 3.0 fully modular

>>102023887
you fucked up go find them

>>102023887
RIP

>>102023891
I threw them away when i was moving :(. I mean worst case i buy a new power supply. The rest were motherboard i think and one from gpu. No idea what they were for. Everything works perfectly.

>>102023668
the only way this could be true is if the 285K is a regression from the 14900K

>>102021808
won't the bottom of those figures on the gpu melt or at least deform?

>>102023911
you will just have to buy new cables from the psu manufacturer that are compatible with your model of psu if you need them to add drives or fans or something in the future, no need to buy a whole new psu

>>102024009
I feel so fucking stupid i might sell the pc and build a new one just to have all the cables.

>>102023986
>power limit: 120W

I fell for the Noctua meme and now I can't mount my gpu in the top pcie because the D15 is too big.
However I have another pcie that is also x16 but is gen 4. Am I losing anything by having the video card in the lower pcie and sitting at the bottom part of my case? Bad airflow maybe? idk it just looks weird there.

>>102024036
what board do you use?

>>102024044
Tachi lite b650e

Is 4070super worth it for a budget build or should I stick to 4060ti? It will be mainly for 1080p, I could play on larger screens but I honestly don't mind slightly lowering the graphics a little bit

My shithole country only seems to have bronze rated PSUs, what exactly is the difference between them and gold ones?

>>102024113
Gamers who get 4070 super for 1080p are exactly Nvidia's target demographic

>>102024056
your 2nd x16 slot is gen4 x4 which will bottleneck your gpu a ton

is there a website where i can compare cpus? and i mean older ones like i5-6600/7600. i don't need anything specific, just "general" performance. i don't trust userbenchmark.

>>102024128
I'm asking because it's in the OP.

>>102024126
efficiency and general component quality, what country? I live in a hell of a country to get anything and they still sell titanium rated PSUs here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLX0FmeFVh8
Is there a glimmer of hope, bros?

>>102024146
first rule of /pcbg/ - never read the OP, it's made by shizos

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>>102024161
shizuko made the op?!

>>102024161
Should I also ignore the rest then? I also paired it with a 7600 because its in the OP

>>102024156
even if it performs that well, even if it's a miracle in RT, the price going to be $700 at least
the price will be lower only if Nvidia releases next gen way earlier

>>102024185
If you are getting the super, consider getting a 1440p monitor. Low end cards are priced horribly this gen you might as well get a used 3080/3070 or 6950xt/6800xt for 1080p

>>102023986
GPUs don't really get hot enough to melt anything, even if it burns your finger to the touch

>>102024185
7600 is fine, if you can bump it to 7700 do it, 8 cores make life easier in general
also look at 7700xt instead of 4060ti

>>102024156
there is no veracity or credibility to be found in this person

>>102020625
as in, 2x ProArts

>>102024130
Ah I didn't realize, I thought x16 meant they were the both the same.
Thank you sir, I am retard

>>102024240
he has good leaks from time to time so writing him off entirely is a waste

>>102024213
gold and copper melting point is 1000C' other components even higher
I mean. plastic can melt at around 200C'? You ahve to really try to reach that, most component shutdown point is ~110C'

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bump >>102024144

guess i should elaborate, i have an office pc with a h110/pentium g4400 combo and i'm trying to upgrade the little bugger so that it's usable. right now it's hair-splittingly slow.

would an i5-7600 be okay for modern web browsing / office work ?

>>102024265
I believe RT claims, AMD released some docs
I do not believe the rest of it, specially 3.2Ghz claim at 250w

>>102024287
>would an i5-7600 be okay for modern web browsing / office work ?
yeah, but you can easily get an APU for around $100

>upgrade pc
>buy cpu, mb
>hmm, why not case too
>too heavy for regular delivery, get cargo
>DELIVERY PROBLEM
Holy fucking shit. Hopefully nothing bad happens to my package

>>102022131
pc gaming is unsalvageable due to dumb gaming retards like yourself
arrow lake is improving on everything except "muh gaming performance" and that's great so fuck u

>>102024326
>pc gaming
>everything except "muh gaming performance"
Get a better script

>>102024305
i would need to change the mobo also which doubles the price. i can get a used i5-7600 for less than 40 eur here. add 16 gigs of cheapo ram and still less than just a 12100, for which i would need a new mobo.

>>102021808
I'm considering going from a RTX 3070 to an RX 7900 XT. Convince me otherwise as everything over here price wise in the UK is suicide fuel, besides waitfagging for the RTX 5090 not one Nvidia GPU this gen is worth it price wise. I'm tired of being VRAM raped.

>>102024339
thanks for confirming you're a retard

>>102024342
go for it, it's fine for office work

>>102024347
>I'm considering going from a RTX 3070 to an RX 7900 XT.
I have it, it's a good card I like it, but now is a bad time. 8800XT is behind the corner, wait until Friday and see what AMD got to offer.
Nvidia likely won't give us anything until January.

>>102024342
As the other anon said, go for it, if you can find the i7-7700 for a cheap as well that's even better

>>102024384
alrite
>>102024414
those go for at least double $$ and that's when buying from china :) no way

>>102024439
yah, 7600 then

>>102024410
Good call, just I start a new job soon and the pay pump is considerate, as I'm a VR heavy person 8GB of VRAM is absolutely chocking me out in so many games now, it frustrates me as raster wise the RTX 3070 feels fine, I love DLSS I just cannot justify it though when it can't run half the games I want without the frame rate collapsing.
>>102024287
Yes, I literally bought an Dell Optiplex for my Mum as she was on some Intel 1st gen dual core. The i5 7500 that was in it has been fine, mostly responsive on Windows 10 after the drivers are installed.
For looonix it's fine, I still drive my i5 4200u and that's all I need for office work (word processing etc)

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is this true?

>>102024491
yes

Does RDNA4 use 5/4nm-class or 3nm node?

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>7600X3D
>RDNA4

I'm so glad I waited.

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>>102024156
they jebaited nvidia

>>102023983
It's going to be just as disappointing as ZEN5 just even more expensive.

>>102024653
4nm
not even blackwell is using 3nm due to supply constraints

>>102024680
heard these words before...

>>102024240
He was 100% accurate about Supers and ZEN5.

>>102024719
he was accurate with raptorlake too

>>102024653
is 3nm even happening? 2nm supposed to be next and a looong stop. They will finally have to figure out how to push GPUs without node advantage. I guess framegen and scaling alogs is part of that.
Dark times are coming.

>>102024652
thanks

>>102024775
Arrow Lake is using TSMC 3N

>>102024824
I meant for GPUs. CPUs release more often on intel side.

>>102024824
If only they gave us a p-core only 12-core sku...

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>>102024841
I'm guessing RDNA5 will use a mix of 2N, 3N, 4N and 6N but that will be 2026 imo.

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>>102024884
I'm guessing that RDNA5 will look similar to the plans they had for high end RDNA4

So is RDNA4 soon?

>>102025059
https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/events/gamescom-2024.html
apparently they will say something about cards, but could be nothing, it's AMD

>>102025084
They'll discuss about how fsr3.1 has been a huge success and announce 5 upcoming games that will have the tech

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>>102025084
Sounds like a nothing burger.

>>102025102
>4 PM
>RDNA 4
It's happening

>>102025100
>fsr3.1 has been a huge success
considering how easy it's to mod in, I'd say it was

>>102025084
They'll be announcing AFMF2 in the mainline driver.

>>102025162
speaking of, any good benchmarks for it? looked amazing at first glance, haven't tried it myself yet

>>102025187
For what it is trying to be it is real good but like anything done at the driver level it isn't great with UI elements. I believe daniel owen and ancient gameplays have videos on it. I've used it with pretty good success.

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Day 504 of waiting for next-gen GPUs

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>>102025265
Has it really been that long? I just remembered Battlemage hasn't even been officially announced yet.
Feels like I'm still stuck in the RTX 3000 Series era.

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>>102024265
nah
the only waste here is the oxygen you subhuman breath

>>102025187
The general consensus is it looks worse visually than LSFG but has lower input lag than LSFG.

>>102025326
It's amazing how one guy can get under the skin and shut off the brains of so many people

>>102025285
RTX 4090 came out in 2022 btw.

did RX 7900 series fail to meet its goal because of poor first-gen gpu chiplets or architecture?

>>102025773
Navi 33 also didn't live up to expectations so its in the architecture.

>>102024265
For some reason Framechasers that dude is full of shit since the beginning, so I only listen to moore as school gossip, much like everything else in this boring as fuck hobby

>>102025830
I need a slop tier list for leaks, I just remember AdoredTV getting laughed out of the room for claiming early Ryzen would be 5Ghz plus.

>>102025773
first gen chiplets have both hardware and software hurdles to overcome. you saw it happen during zen2 with the powerplan stuff on windows and cppc/scheduling.

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I was thinking of reseating my 12700k but it hasn't had a contact frame for 2+ years. Kinda worried the IHS is going to be all fucked because of the uneven pressure that has been on there. Anyone do something similar recently?

>>102025285
I know, right?

>>102025943
You don't need to do it if temperatures are okay, anon.

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>>102025285
I am still using this 5700xt I bought in 2019. I have earned like 4x of its price during mining madness.

>>102024156
>$599
>4080 tier
This is one of MLIDs silliest "leaks" in a while. To be fair the red text stuff is probably accurate, but he always spices his real leaks up with obvious bullshit for clicks.

anons i heard rumors of an rx 7300, 7400, are those true? Im hoping one of them is just an rx6600 but 12gb. Would be a great mid range gpu

>>102026052
They're okay, but if I can keep it colder for the time that I use it that's fine. Just a bit of my time. I'm planning some upgrades so I'll be in there anyways. I just don't want to order all that stuff, then take off my cooler and realize something else needs replacing.

>>102024156
Based Moores Law is dead post. Desperate Nvidiots will shill against him but he’s almost always right

>>102026150
the 7400 is going to be rx6600 but its still going to be 8gb, the 7300 will be 6gb and a 3050 8gb competitor. I assume they're going to be 120w and 90w so easily cooled and easily powered which means cheap.

hello anons,

i am not that tech affiliate so please no bully.

I intend to copy data from my few external HDDs to 1 possible big internal HDD. I would like it to function as one simple back up of my external HDDs. So in case one (external) fails i have this back up solution. Here's my question:
Is the Seagate Exos X20 18TB HDD a falid option for a simple home PC? Or are those HDDs only usable in those RAID-systems and therefore not usable in home PCs.

Like i said i only want it to be a back up and have enough space for future years to come.

Thanks in advance for answers.

I want to replace the thermal pads in my gpu with thermal putty, whats available and what should I be looking for?

Do Windows power plans actually do anything beyond the settings that you can see and change within them? If so, what exactly? I've been running Maximum Performance for as long as I can remember but I've heard that's just wasting power with newer CPUs.

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>>102024156
1. MLID is lying a POS.
2. The 7900 XT 20GB trades blows with the 4080 and is already $700, so this 8800 XT being $100 less (why would they price it at $499 and cannibalize the 7900 GRE) with 16 GB RAM is whatever. They could cut prices on RDNA3 right now if they cared.

>>102026555
Name one thing he lied about.

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>>102021808
I am comparing these two boards
the Icraft B760M CROSS and the Alienware R11/12

They are both hovering around 200 dollars for no discernable reason. I'm upset. I plan to make a partial acrylic case build, and have a lot of blue PCBs so the latter could be fun, but it feels wrong to throw away 200 dollars on obsolete hardware. MB seem hard to fix as well, buying an untested one makes me nervous.

Anyone have any opinions? is the Cross cute tax really that much more? would an all blue pcb build be more impressive than the white MB?

Anons, redpill a newfag on B550 mobos. I'm on a strict budget, really can't overspend, which one do I buy?

I see microATX ones are generally much cheaper than normal sized ones, what's the catch?
Will they fit a 15 years old ATX case?
What's the more practical pick - decent mATX or the cheapest ATX, such as AssRock Phantom Gaming 4?
How more expensive mobos are better than cheap ones?

Gonna use it with Ryzen 5600 and probably overclock it.

>>102026319
Enterprise drives are perfectly fine for a normal PC and even have longer warranties. But it seems that they're louder than normal HDDs, at least that is the case for my WD ultrastar.

So I plan to build a second pc made to just host hdds and attach it to my main computer via a 10gbs fiber optic cable.
What I'm wondering is
Since I'm going to get bottlenecked by the fiber optic can I cheap out on cpu and ram?

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>>102021808
anyone fucked with these chink cpus? they seem cool so i wanna get one the 12900hx doesn't required any modified bios or anything it just werks

https://youtu.be/pYWa90_3fKE

Q015 i9-12900HX(ES) https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005007380458552.html

QTJ1 10980HK(ES) https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004701809596.html

>>102024156
who cares about AMD
AMD has never been a good competitor
They have never kept Nvidia's prices in check, if anything Nvidia is making AMD more expensive by merely existing
The last 2 times AMD didnt compete at the high end we got the 4090 and the 1080Ti

>>102026490
Maximum power is mostly just preventing sleep and giving the cpu a minimum clockspeed of 90% so at the desktop you're just burning power keeping it awake like that.

Post your unpopular PC Building opinions

>>102026763
That the two most important parts of a build where there should be no compromise for your budget are the monitor and PSU in that order. Fuck everything else.

>>102026743
I guess the qtj1 is nice if you have a z170 or z270 and a ch341a
Otherwise I wouldn't bother with it since used i9 9th gen is dirt cheap in my cunt now. E.g. I just saw a $150 z390 master and 9900kf bundle the other day

>>102026763
Anything less than the absolute flagship tier of hardware is a waste of time and money and is built for children. “Dollars per frame” is a child’s metric. Most adults spend far more on their hobbies than what it costs to build a top of the line PC, only a third worldie monkey has an excuse for a “PC budget”

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>>102026812
well i wanted to build with something weird problem with the qtj1 is you need to flash or replace bios chip i have messaged seller to ask about compatible mobos, was also thinking of x99 xeon itx those are weird but not as weird

>>102026763
buying extra case fans is a waste of money

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How likely is the 5070 to get stuck with 12Gb vram again?

>>102026763
>mem speed and latencies are overrated, just get the cheapest branded one
>ATX boards are overrated and expensive, just get mATX if not gonna use the I/O
>any puter past 2016 is capable of doing almost everything
>PCs should not be able to play games, only productivity stuff
>only consoles should be able to run games

>>102026749
>The last 2 times AMD didnt compete at the high end we got the 4090 and the 1080Ti

What are the greatest AMD GPUs and NVIDIA GPUs of all time relative to the years they released?

>>102026868
least obvious consolefag seething because the console war is over

>>102026871
9700Pro
8800GT
1080Ti
3090Ti

>>102026848
>>102026763
Positive pressure is just a cope for having poor air flow in your case

It's like a smallest style gpus will more effective than common tests showed because they would often test on open test benches instead of in the real condition of being in a case
In the average pre-built or low quality Case with poor airflow a blower style GPU was actually better.

Most people drastically overbuy their CPU Cooler. There is no need to buy a CPU Cooler that can cool a top range CPU when you have something like a 7600. If the cool looking keep your CPU under 90° on the load then there is no need to go any further

>>102026926
Explain why the 7800X3D get so much hype

>>102026863
Id give it a 50/50. If it’s 16GB then the 5080 will be either 20 or 24GB which will be the bigger question imo. If the 5080 is staying at 16gb the 5070 will remain at 12

>>102026932
maeks frams at very hihg speed

>>102026763
SSDs don't matter at all
Just being an SSD is 90% of the battle on load times and responsiveness

>>102026926
would you say that something along the lines of arctic freezer 36 and fractal pop air would be enough to keep the 7600X cool?

>>102026932
because it fasssssst

>>102026963
An anon from the last thread was complaining his ssd writes at 1MB/s when it's 50% filled

>>102026963
>>102026991
Are SATA SSDs worth it

>>102026926
>Most people drastically overbuy their CPU Cooler.
That's because the price difference between an appropriate cooler and super-overkill one is usually like $10-20. There's too much fixed cost in budget coolers to make them very appealing to all but the most starved budget builder. It's why most other cooler OEMs have basically unconditionally surrendered to the Reich of Thermalright.

Which do you think is better for the AIO cooler, Thermalright Frozen Edge 240, or the ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW 240, or should I not worry about a difference? Seem around the same price and speeds, but I need a second opinion.

>>102026863
>GB203 256b
>GB205 192b
almost certain that RTX 5080/5070 will use 16/12 GB unless 3GB GDDR7 is available or NVIDIA changes which GPU is used in the SKUs

>>102026763
4k isn't meme, 32" 4k is really nice for most tasks

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Hey guys, I'm retarded so I don't know how to parse the PSU guide. Which PSU should I purchase for a 4090?

>>102027217
=<$210 budget

>>102026991
Maybe I'm bias in that 95% of my SSDs are older and thus aren't cost reduced to death, even tho I paid less than a modern cheap SSD.

The average age of all my SSDs are like 6-7 years old, and having used them as all boot drives at some point, I couldn't tell the difference. I do have a modern SSD, a Micron 7450 Pro but not much difference. Only an Optane made a tangible difference in the desktop and gaming experience and it's only PCIe 3

>>102027004
Maybe if you have and old 256gb boot disc that you migrate to a new system but not really. And basic bitch 2tb m2 isn't even that expensive these days.

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>>102026863
But you don't need more VRAM according to a certain someone in these parts.

>>102026763
cpus are cheap
you can choose not to let ecelebs/groupthink/reviewers meme you into believing that you need 144hz 1440p monitor and powerful a gpu
graphics are overrated and were newer the best part of pc gaming

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Are HDD/SSD caddies the same/universal? Do I need them if I want to install optical drive and/or an I/O panel?

are there any good 34" ultrawide ips monitors? i want one for mainly programming i would oled but i heard the text looks shitty on it and its likely to have burn ins

>>102027432
HDDs use 3.5" bays while optical drives use the 5.25" ones. SSDs may use the laptop drive 2.5" size but even those are getting phased out nowadays by M.2 drives.

>>102027553
I just need them for the time being as my new mobo has 5 m.2 slots and I only have two to install. Wasn't sure if they're case specific or not.

>>102027376
Not having enough VRAM is the second most destructive thing that can happen to your gaming experience. Stutters, crashes, inability to multitask browser + game... it's a mess.

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Rate my bick anons: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TVyYMV

Why the fuck is udimm ECC ram so expensive? 32 gigs of ecc ram costs as much as motherboard or CPU. Fuck!

>>102027519
>are there any good 34" ultrawide ips monitors? i want one for mainly programming i would oled but i heard the text looks shitty on it and its likely to have burn ins
If this is for programming you want one with very high pixel density to render the fine text with good clarity.
I'd recommend the LG 34BK95U-W which is 5120x2160 @ 75Hz vs. 3440x1440 on all other competing models.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JP1QK9T?psc=1

Alternatively I'd just pickup 3x cheap 27" IPS 4K displays. again for the superior pixel density compared to more common1440p models, with a monitor arm like this for an affordable triple setup:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GktLrH/sceptre-u279w-4000r-269-3840-x-2160-70-hz-monitor-u279w-4000r
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fpsV3C/sceptre-u278w-4000r-269-3840-x-2160-70-hz-monitor-u278w-4000r
^$170 each + 60-70$ arm like so:
https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Monitor-Adjustable-Articulating-STAND-V003M/dp/B01A02QFV0

2560x1440 @ 27" = 109 PPI
3440x1400 @ 34" = 110 PPI

3840x2160 @ 27" = 163 PPI
5120x2160 @ 34" = 163 PPI

What are the best overall gen 4 ssds?

>>102027815
How do you use triple monitor setup? Two seems enough for me. Do you make all three vertical?

I want to build an anti-gaming PC
needed this
>operating system that is incompatible with steam
>processor that is useless for gaming
>anti-gamer graphics card
>RAM that is not suitable for playing on PC
>screen that is not useful for gaming
>anti-gamer keyboard

>>102027885
Buy a Mac?

>>102027856
p44 pro / p41 platinum are the best gen 4 ssds on the market.
runner ups would be samsung 990 pro, wd sn 850x, and crucial p5.

>>102027936
Ok
Which Mac model is the most anti-gamer of all?

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>>102027861
Usually like this with one centered and one of each side (can be angled toward you).

>Do you make all three vertical?
You can do that if desired. In fact putting them in portrait vs. landscape mode would probably benefit your application since vertical resolution and screen real estate is more valuable.

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>>102027861
>>102027981
Also if you just go with a dual setup you could have one main landscape and one portrait on the side like so.

>>102027885
>>operating system that is incompatible with steam
Fedora
>>processor that is useless for gaming
EPYC or threadripper?
>>anti-gamer graphics card
Nvidia workstation graphics gard
>>RAM that is not suitable for playing on PC
udimm or rdimm ECC Ram
>>screen that is not useful for gaming
4k 60hz IPS display
>>anti-gamer keyboard
Cherry MX Blue / brown.

>>102026150
Yes
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-preparing-navi-33-based-radeon-rx-7400-and-rx-7300-graphics-card

What do y'all do with old AMD and Intel PCs?

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>>102028096
Use them for whatever
A 4690k still smacks for general use

>>102028168
Why are modern coolers so big now?

>>102028168
>smacks

>>102028021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuBzZPvCE-M&pp=ygUUZmVkb3JhIGxpbnV4IGVuZ2xpc2g%3D

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/rtx-2000/

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/c/hardware-components/ddr4-ecc-ram

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/strx40.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_VRaHneWto&pp=ygUOQ2hlcnJ5IE1YIEJsdWU%3D

>>102023668
with the recent 9000 fuckups i guess this was to be expected, hopefully it will be as good as the 7800x3d

someone talk me out of switching my d15 with an AIO for purely aesthetic reasons

>>102028500
>9000

Why does the 14th gen and 9000 get so much hate?

>>102028529
>14th gen
oxidised rust that kills itself after 6 months

>9000
costs more and is the same as 7000 series

>>102028521
you're gonna look at it every now and then for about a week then stop caring for it.
it's going to cost even more in the long term, as eventually every aio needs to be replaced as they have many, many more points of failure than an air cooler, which basically just has the fans as points of failure
noctua coolers have a virtually infinite long usability, as noctua will send you mounting brackets for the cooler for free if you have proof of purchase
I'm assuming you got the d15 because quietness is a big thing for you, an aio will surely be louder because they usually have lower-quality fans + introduced pump noises
if you really care about aesthetics that much, just get those noctua chromax things

>>102028521
put the pc on the floor so you don't have look at it, ez

>>102021808
Uhm where is that sticker bought from

what would be the oldest generation i7 to go with if I was buying a used mainstream PC with the intention of adding a low power GPU? Like I can get a Dell Optiplex with a 512GB SSD, 32GB DDR4, and i7-9700 for $220. I just don't know if that's considered enough for modern gaming. The games in question are World of Warcraft, Apex Legends, various other AAA games as they come out but they don't have to be at super max settings so long as I can maintain 1440p 60fps.

Or would it be worth just building something new?

>>102027727
>Why the fuck is udimm ECC ram so expensive? 32 gigs of ecc ram costs as much as motherboard or CPU. Fuck!
The consumer market doesn't buy much of it. The business market, which accounts for most ECC demand, is pretty price-insensitive.

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>Seasonic Focus GX 1000
>4070 Super
>3x PSU-to-PCI-E cables came with the power supply, as well as one 12VHPWR-to-12VHPWR cable
>1x PCI-E-to-12VHPWR adapter that came with the 4070 Super
>can plug two of the PCI-E cables into the 4070 Super's 12VHPWR adapter and then connect that to my GPU
Is this good? Or should I only plug one of the PCI-E cables into the adapter and tie the other one down/let it hang?

>>102027727
>>102029170
plus most people with true need of ECC RAM are just using machines with RDIMM capabilities. I bought 4x4GB of DDR3 ECC UDIMM for like $160 years ago. I can say however that it does help. I built a baby server using a Haswell era Xeon e3-1231v3 (an i7-4770 with no iGPU and ECC support), supermicro motherboard, and the ram when all these things were new. It's still running to thise day with near 24/7 uptime.

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>>102028096
for heating meds

>>102029216
>one 12VHPWR-to-12VHPWR cable
just use that

>>102029231
crusty

>>102029216
why not just use the 12 pin PCIe power cable straight to the GPU. Isn't that how it was intended, like the whole purpose of buying these newer gen PSU's?

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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-9-285k-the-flagship-arrow-lake-cpu-spotted-on-geekbench-with-5-7-ghz-clock

>>102021863
No you didn't

>>102029319
will Intel save us gamers from the 9000 series disappointment

>>102029350
ermm source????

>>102029351
no, there's no coming back from the 9600k being 6 threads for $260 in the year 2019

>>102026984
105w tdp cpu vs 200tdp cooler? Yes.

I've seen it effectively cool i9 cpus.

But more importantly at full speed it has some of the quietest fans of any cooler. It's not as whisper quiet when it's at low speed compared to things like to be quiet coolers or noctua but at full Pelt it's still very quiet.

>>102029107
That would work for those games yes. Get a 4070 Super and be done with it

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000x3d-with-3d-v-cache-now-expected-to-launch-in-january
Guess AMD needs to wait for cheap 7800X3D stock to sell through more to make Zen 5 X3D look good

>>102024217
>8 cores make life easier in general
Moronic, useless for gaming

>7700xt instead of 4060ti
Radeon is garbage

>>102029441
ah yes I remember that, my first ever cpu

what piece of shit, it stuttered so hard in open world games like AC I had to upgrade to a 9700k which fixed the stuttering

>>102029576
7700xt is much faster than a 4060ti lmao

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Can I do anything neat with an Nvidia Jetson TX2? I can get a good deal on one and just curious.

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>>102029606
Is it?

>>102029606
Not really. They are about equal in raster, 4060 Ti 16gb has extra 4gb of VRAM and outperforms it in raytracing. Would definitely avoid the 8GB model of 4060 ti though

>>102029634
>DLSS included
Anon... I... I'm no fan of AMD but that's not fair at 1080p

>>102026627
BUMP

>>102029576
>>102029620
>>102029634
QRD on 4060 Ti 16GB as a budget choice

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>>102029634
>>102029675
the 7700xt is faster than a 4060ti 8/16gb

>>102029634
Only nvidia shills use "gameGPU" an obscure Russian website for GPU testing which is not trustworthy it is basically in the same league as userbenchmark

I have a 42 inch LG C3 and a 27 inch monitor in portrait mode, not everything is in view when sitting upright working on the 42 inch, but when I'm playing games or using HS leaning back with it is great.
Should I just buy a 32 inch instead and use that as a main monitor with the 42 on the side for gaming only?

>>102029718
mATX is fine if you don't need more than 1 pcie slot
Phantom Gaming 4 is plenty for a little 5600

>>102026627
>>102029718
>I see microATX ones are generally much cheaper than normal sized ones, what's the catch?
Less PCIe/NVME slots, sometimes less DIMM banks, etc. Not a deal breaker if you aren't a huge Power User
>Will they fit a 15 years old ATX case?
Yes.
>What's the more practical pick - decent mATX or the cheapest ATX, such as AssRock Phantom Gaming 4?
Sorry for the wishy-washy answer, but it depends entirely on the price/feature set of the boards. Higher end mATX CAN BE better than basic bitch full-ATX but that's usually the exception
>How more expensive mobos are better than cheap ones?
They can be hundreds for luxury boards with tons of RGB but realistically $30-50 premium is all you ever tolerate

Right now unless you have special feature recommendations the ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 for 90 USD is basically all one needs:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4mjNnQ/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4

I have an i7 6950X extreme CPU, X99 system, and triple GTX titan X setup. I went full stupid back in the day. That said, how high of a GPU can I go with while keeping the current CPU? Or do I need to upgrade to a new CPU as well because this one is too old? I'm assuming an RTX 4090 would be drastically held back by an Intel 6950X

>>102021808
>bought rare out of stock itx case for ~$125 in 2022
>its appreciated in price to over twice the price
feels good

>>102029928
>I have an i7 6950X extreme CPU, X99 system, and triple GTX titan X setup
Damn...........Well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA11tWU_Gm4
It's a bit behind the 12700K and therefore 13600K/4600K. I wouldn't put more than a 4070 Super, maybe 4070 Ti Super in there but it should still be good to you for another generation or two. You are running your system with an SSD right?

>>102029718
don't overclock it, it boosts go 4.65GHz on it's own with PBO on.
overclock your ram, that's where the performance is.

>>102030056
Is the 4090 entirely wasted on me? I ask because I would be looking to game at 4K, an upgrade over 1440p I'm at now. That places 90% of the load on the GPU more so than the CPU right? I ask because my entire system is in a water loop being cooled on 2x 480mm radiators. If I get a new card, I would also be getting a matching water block. I can get an RTX 4090 through a friend who orders them for a large server farm. Will cost me $1200.

>>102030056
>>102030131
oh and yes. I have windows and all my files installed on a 1TB Samsung 950 Pro SSD. I also have a Corsair Neutron 1.6TB PCIe SSD for game installation space.

amd unboxed is still mad at amd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPo5io-Gfw

2700x
1070ti
16gb ram
Worth selling this old PC of mine as is?

>>102030222
Yes people are still hungry for AM4

>>102030212
>>102030222
How will the 7800X3D be remembered?

It's very quiet on the Intel dGPU front

>>102030212
>amdunboxed dissing on amd
its so over

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>>102030443
soon

>>102030477
amdisaster

Is a 7600X and 7600 XT a good pair with respect to bottlenecking?

>>102030131
>>102030176
I think you'd be better served saving your money on the 4090 and waiting for the 5090 to roll around.
If you have money burning a whole in your pocket, I'd suggest getting a nice OLED monitor just to game and watch movies on if you are using an LCD still.

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>>102030560
For gaymen it's fine. Not much you can do with modern AAA slop, if you crank graphics you're GPU bottlenecked every time even with a 4090. But there's no reason to go lower on the CPU

>>102030348
It and 5800X3D are this generation's 2500K.

>>102027519
Gigabyte M34WQ best monitor i have ever had

>>102030678
>>102030685
Why are modern games so poorly optimized

>>102030734
Turn off RT, retard

>>102030685
>7900 XTX rekt by a fucking 3070

Jesus… so much for AMDs value proposition… yikes

>>102030734
The most powerful GPU playing the latest game at the highest settings has never been able to get 144fps at whatever resolution was the highest at the time bro. Not now not 5 years ago not 20 years ago

>>102030787
Max RT at native res, the 3070 was also running at 21fps so this chart is kinda dumb when even the 4080 can't even hold a consistent 60fps

>disable rt
>do not use dlss or any competitor tech in tests
>always run as admin
>run this batch script to do a "deep" driver reinstall
>install windows dev builds
the state of poomd

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>>102029689
>that's not fair
It's massively fair.

>>102029802
Get fucked

>>102029763
IMO you'd just save up for the 4070 Super or punt with the base 4060 (or a 3060 12 GB)

AyyyyMD is running a circus

>>102030876
>>102030886
>>102030888
>>102030891
Why is Cyberpunk jank used as the benchmark for GPUs

>>102030896
First time I hear about a circus where the paying customers are the clowns

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>>102030891
get fucked

>>102030896
>>102030921
>Quake 2 GPU benchmarks from 1998 at Tomshardware
>"24 FPS is still good for gameplay at 1152x864"

Remember when 24 fps was good?

>>102030990
>>102030990

>>102030911
Cyberpunk can be fine with upscaling and frame gen combined with RT

>>102030945
I love how retards like to use old games where either GPU is playable at a higher resolution than in question, which is 1080p >>102024113

>>102031134
>old games
came out in 2023 lul and the 4060ti can't keep a consistent 60fps in it

>>102030911
It's the Crysis of /current year/

>>102031179
Closer to 60 FPS at 1440p >>102030945 (the question is 1080p)
than the 7700 XT is at 1080p >>102030891
AMDummies never learn

>>102029893
>>102029913
Thanks, that helps a lot. If I happen to put 5700X3D in for example, will it also be fine with Phantom Gaming or some mATX?
>Sorry for the wishy-washy answer
So was the question, I guess.

>>102030118
Alright. Thought about overclocking because I already have a decent cooler. PBO just gonna do it automatically when the temps low?

>>102031819
Yes.
Yes. You can adjust your power limit when you use pbo. Just don't touch the scalar, it degrades cpus.

>>102031930
Cool, thanks.

>>102029763
Why are you asking me >>102029620? I'm a poorfag with a 1060.

>>102029933