Whats the best 1080p monitor right now?

What's the best $249.99 GPU?

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>>103584709
Samsung Odyssey G30D 2024

>>103584709
>the best
LG C4 with integer scaling on GPU

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>>103584581
How the fuck did Intel become a shit CPU maker but a decent GPU maker.

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>>103584742
>look up the monitor on Amazon
>see this shit in the top reviews for it
So this is the official Sharty monitor?

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>>103584800
>see this shit in the top reviews for it

>>103584791
Arrow Lake has powerful ipc and crazy bandwidth, but kneecapped by the poor memory latency due to the underbaked tiled die design and having to share a similar design to their server CPUs. But for first gen desktop tiled CPU they're doing a lot better than AMD did with first gen Ryzen. It only looks underwhelming because it replaces the powerful Raptor Lake while Ryzen replaced the miserable FX CPUs.

Also both their CPUs and GPUs are let down by crappy software. Before the latest patch, Cyberpunk couldn't even differentiate e-cores from p-cores, but now after the latest game patch 285K outperforms 7800X3D. So both their CPUs and GPUs have the same problem.

i've stopped buying nvidia

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>>103584848
Their p-p intercore latency also went down the shitter since they shifted its position to 2p-8e-4p-8e-2p. Their chip would be a better gaymen cpu at this point had they went 32e

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On a scale of one-to-gay, how based is this mini setup?

>>103584863
>Their p-p intercore latency also went down the shitter since they shifted its position to 2p-8e-4p-8e-2p.
That, and disintegrated IMC adds a ton of latency. There are rumors that the IMC die was supposed to be clocked faster but there's no backside power delivery in the TSMC fab. It was supposed to be fabbed with intel's cancelled 20A process.
>Their chip would be a better gaymen cpu at this point had they went 32e
Should've just been 16E + lots of cache + optional big iGPU die. It would've been a budget king.
Intel will never make gaming oriented CPU though. Their sub-die cache tech is even better than AMD's vcache, but they'll reserve it for their data center CPUs. They officially confirmed they won't. They can't let a low cost gaming oriented CPU chip away the sales of i9.

>>103584858
Holy shit

>>103584920
Won't you suffocate your GPU? I guess the side that covered by the miniPC is where the actual die with pcb sits so it's the most important area to cool. Also I doubt the CPU in this small miniPC box is powerful enough to not bottleneck your GPU.
Design wise your components look söy as fuck, don't forget your Funkopops.

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>>103585025
@1440p the GPU is stays mostly in 98%. GPU temps @58-60c max at 30% fan speed. I'm still working on the bios settings to get it running optimally as the BIOS is unlocked.

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16Gib M-die is still a thing btw

If I found a new gigabyte 4070 ti super for 500 instead of 700+, is it going to burn down my house?

If a aio comes with thermal paste pre applied, should I leave it on, take it off, or double up and put some on the cpu anyways. Im just assuming the Arctic LF3 comes with it pre applied at least.

>>103585246
I always scrape the old stuff off and reapply, mixed in with a bit of jizz for luck

>>103585111
but why

>>103585246
leave it on. arctic comes with mx-5 or mx-6.

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I just assembled all the parts together, turned the PC on, fans are working, cooler is working, GPU isn’t, there’s no signal on the monitor. It’s over, I probably damaged the CPU while installing the cooler, I’m so fucking stupid, I won’t be able to buy another CPU for a while.

>>103585111
what does this mean I only understand what the cas latency and speed (6000Mt/s)

>>103585392
correct bios version?, tried with a single stick of ram?, re seated all power cables?, checked for cpu socket/pin damage?

>>103585392
>GPU isn’t, there’s no signal on the monitor
did you forget to plug the dp/hdmi cable in?

>>103585392
any leds or beeps? might be just memory training?

>>103585392
clear cmos by jumping pins with a screwdriver

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>>103584715
Not the Arc B580, because you can't find it at that price

>>103584858
>neat monitor but after i got it the ai took over and started blasting my ass with memes

>>103585146
No, your credit card will just have a $500 charge on it until Amazon can confirm that you got scammed

>>103585392
Make sure you're plugging the monitor into the graphics card.
If your CPU has iGP (you did buy a CPU with iGP, didn't you?), remove the graphics card and try to get display out using the port on the motherboard

>>103585502
tomb raider was made on a good engine, stalker 2 is ue5 slop that does not even look better than a large chunk og games from 2018-2023 which is a shame because I actually like the gameplay

X870 or b650
What's the difference. Which is better

wow you bitches play shit games and have garbage os setups

>>103585414
How do I know the BIOS version? If it’s the wrong version then it won’t even show anything on the screen?

>>103585531
dont talk about your mom that way

>>103585528
x870 because:
- pcie gen 5.0 slot
- wifi 7
- ddr5 8000 capable

>>103585392
It doesn't always boot the first time. Try process of elimination, its almost always the RAM.

>>103585528
B650 because the newest option os already obsolete.

>>103585528
X870 is better for having pcie 5.0 support, usb 4.0 (40 Gbps) mandatory and having more chipset pcie lanes (12 instead of 8)

>>103585550
>wifi 7
that's just a card, not part of chipset.
>ddr5 8000 capable
isn't that all up to board pcb/layout quality?
or is it part of requirements to qualify to use the chipset?

>>103585544
>Unreal Engine 5 dogshit
>Still using Tomb Raider in benchmarks
>Fucked up AMD\Intel CPU schedulers

No wonder you guys were banished to the shadow realm of /g/

>>103585392
What a retarded monkey.

>>103585550
why would you need ddr5 8000 on AM5 when there is zero real world benefit

>>103585584
Ask his use case first. I'm sure the answer is "gamin" which B650 will fulfill absolutely.

>>103585587
>that's just a card, not part of chipset.
I know, but instead of spending extra monies, it comes with the board.
>isn't that all up to board pcb/layout quality?
Yes, but its just that they tend to be of higher quality.

I missed 40gig USB port btw.

>>103585610
There is real world benefit. It is faster. Also, it consumes less power. You can reduce your fclk to 2000.

>>103585528
A620M Pro RS if you're only gaming.

>>103585392
Anon, tell us what is happening.

>>103585692
This is the most retarded monke board ever. Only b650m hdv, nothing lower than that.

What the fuck is Bottleneck? how can i estimate for stuffs like render processing and model fine tuning. I tried some calculator but they all imply screen resolution for gaymin and video editing. Also assuming whatever cpu/gpu/ram components that were released this past two years, how can I figure out the best combo based on whatever specific need like processing, model training and fine tuning

>>103585710
What it means is, if you pair an entry level cpu with a 4090 or something, don't worry too much about it, post you budget and put the parts you like in pcpartpicker and post here, we'll help you make it better.

>>103585692
a620 is fucking dogshit

>>103585613
True, most people don't need the new features.

>>103585707
The Livemixer (graffiti bros will approve) is the next best option if the hdv is out of stock.
>>103585750
Not only that but the ddr6 is like a year and bit away. Would be silly to go balls deep this late into the year.

>>103585786
>ddr6 is like a year and bit away
Woah, I didn't know that. Then I should only suggest b650m hdv. Live mixer is a great board. Isn't b650m pro rs cheaper? Its almost the same as b650m hdv.

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I will not buy new hardware.

>>103585734
b-but I want to be autistic about it because why not, I currently have i5-8400 2.8GHz/1050 ti on a desktop I haven't upgraded since I assembled it. I'm thinking of building a new rig, but want to get my hand on a high-end gpu first, either 40 or 50 series

>>103585889
5950x, if you are too poor for that, get the 5900x.

>>103585895
Sure, upgrade the psu + gpu. That's a gen3 pcie slot, if you buy gpus one month from now, it'll be gen 5 cards. You will not be using your gpu to their full potential.

>>103585889
>AM4
>productivity

>>103585707
>>103585745
A620 is just a chipset. The VRM can handle ryzen 9 without throttling despite the low end chipset.

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>msi mag b650 tomahawk

What's the best productivity cpu that won't be wasted on my mobo?

>>103585889
disregard this post

>>103585984
the VRM depends on the motherboard maker and some of them definitely cannot handle a ryzen 9 7/9950x all core

>>103585997
that board can handle any ryzen cpu comfortably the vrm setup is decent and the cooling solution for the vrm looks adequate

How easy is it to find stable overclocks/undervolts on ryzen 7500f? Is it a worse binned chip than the 7600/x? What's a known reliable OC/UV for this specific chip?

>>103585984
>no pbo
>no fast usb
>gimped pcie lanes
>gimped nvme slots
Its not even that much cheaper. They make this garbage because you buy them, just don't buy that garbage with goated boards like b650m hdv exist.

>>103585997
Ryzen 9 9950X

>>103584940
>Should've just been 8P + lots of cache
Fixed

my current build from 8 years ago has an i5-6600k and a gtx 1070.
what would be the equal build to that today?

>>103585997
9950x/7950x. Just wait for a month and check if 9950x3d is worth it.

>>103586084
7800x3d + 4080s.

>>103586053
16E only takes as much die space as 4P. You won't have much die space left with 8P.

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>>103586003
Pro RS boards have pretty decent one relative to the other budget options.

>>103586036
>PBO
A meme. Better OC your RAM.
>all the rest
Memes for gaming. Even sata SSD is fast enough.
>b650m hdv
That's 50 bucks more expensive and is always sold out.

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>>103585963
ah, fug I forgot about pcie. here's a mockup what I'd build(i'd prefer to wait and get a 5070 ti instead, but I haven't done any research to decide): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zwzxsp

>>103586109
Don't care, I want moar gayme performance

>>103586303
Cache is more important because memory latency is a bigger than ipc in game performance.

>>103586342
*bigger factor

>>103586166
Shintel is no good these days.
- 9800x3d
- x870 pro rs (B650m hdv/m.2 if you want cheaper)
- Crucual t500/t700/t705 if you want only crucial. Get wd black sn850x if you are open to other brands.

This is for gaymen right?

>>103586149
>That's 50 bucks more expensive and is always sold out.
Stop being poor, b650m pro rs is almost the same board for 10bux more. There is b650 pro rs. There is live mixer. Tonnes of great boards. A620 boards are not good.

>>103586149
>A meme. Better OC your RAM.
inplying a cheap low-layers bargain board is going to be any good at RAM OC lol
performance wise the scaling goes like pbo > ram > fclk
>That's 50 bucks more expensive
if you're on such a budget you might consider getting a job or saving up a few more days/weeks/months

>>103586342
Ok, but more ipc + big cache is better than less ipc + big cache

Guys why do I feel drawn towards the Noctua NH-D15 G2? I just love the silver and waffle brown look of it, it is seductive and fuck I want one

>>103585392
check the motherboard headers you might have fucked one of them up
>I won’t be able to buy another CPU for a while.
Just return it and say it came like that.

>>103586354
not really, I do realtime audio processing and video editing, and I want to train models and load up local llms, but gayming is a welcome side effect.
I also haven't done any research yet, I just semi-arbitrarily choose components, mainly focusing on spec numbers only(for the sake of minimizing bottlenecks). i'm screencapping your post for future reference, thanks.

>>103586166
ignore amd retards
change the cooler to an arctic freezer 3, I had a 13900k and no air cooler is any good with it

>>103586149
Wrong. Pbo is useful for undervolting with CO which will save you power and also help you maintain boost clocks better

>>103586648
Just buy it then. Or do you need validation like a little fucking faggot?

>>103586725
>realtime audio processing
do not get an AMD CPU then, it's simply not capable of handling low buffer sizes without crackling
my i7 4790k was better with ASIO devices than my 9800X3D for sure

>>103586725
Listen to other anon and get a 10900k or 11900k. Not sure how the newer p+e CPUs like the 12900k or 14900k fare though

>>103586648
I didnt realise how fucking expensive they were until I happened across a listing yesterday whilst I was buying fans
In my shit currency a d15 g2 is nearly 300 dollars, when I bought my d14 in 2010ish I think I paid 90 which is about 120 worth now
I like them but fuck why would you bother when there are better options for far far less

Is it worth carrying my old soundblaster z to my new AM5 pc? Or is it outdated by now. I only really use it for the virtual surround sound feature when gaming. It's set to a 5.1 output in Windows and then I use the software for the virtual surround.

>>103586934
>virtual surround sound
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hesuvi/

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>>103584581
Monitors?

>>103587016
Yeah I know this exists and I also have a license to dolby atmos for headphones but the sbz virtual surround is by far the most accurate I've used.

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Hey guys, I'm considering a new build, since my old PC is now 7 years old and really showing its age; it's a prebuilt Lenovo I bought since it was relatively inexpensive for the specs at the time. (pic and link related).
>https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-ideacentre-720-90h10004us/p/N82E16883795903R?srsltid=AfmBOor4SsuvPtMVUFlAj74Q4H98a3tBEe5tq3qYbeungCIlSBch_C6y
Looking at the parts that are in there, there's very little I'll be able to cannibalize for the next build; really, all I can carry over is the case, maybe the power supply, and the HDD (and the hard drive is mostly to export my OS to a SDD later on, maybe keep some spare storage).
So I have a crappy motherboard with only one SATA connection, a processor that's well out of date, a graphics card slotted in GDDR5, and 16GB of memory slotted in DDR4 that I'm debating either resale or to pass onto a friend or family member that may be interested in starting a budget first build. Is it worth trying to resell on eBay or are these really just trash at this point? Anything I get from these parts will either offset or roll into my new build budget.
>New build - Base build budget $1200, USA
To start, I found some good deals on Newegg for Ryzen 7 7000 series processors, probably because 8000s are starting to drop. So I'm in the market for an AM5 motherboard, appropriate cooling, probably 32GB memory, maybe-maybe-not a new power supply, and a graphics card that can run most current games on at least moderate settings. Bonus points if I can be left with enough over for a new SSD. Rough sketch of my planned build here.
https://newegg.io/2f2419e
Anyway, are there any parts I could go a little cheaper on, and are there any tweaks /g/ would make to this build to get more power per dollar? I would like to shave a couple hundred from the parts I selected if possible, since I don't have much budget space if I need to get a new power supply, and plan to drop another couple hundred on an SSD later on.

>$2500 5090
>$1300 5080

>>103587217
sauce

>>103586779
I wasn't aware, appreciate the head up
>>103586805
>e CPU
yeah about those, I think i'm going with either 10900 or 11900

>>103587230
prebuilt leak estimates

>>103587238
I wonder whether 5060 will get cucked by 8 gigs of VRAM.
It'll be a tought pick between x70 ti or 8800 xt/x

B770 when

>>103586728
>arctic freezer 3
noted, thanks anon

>>103587260
5060 is rumoured to have 8gb sadly
5070 12gb again kek

>>103587268
Rumors say in late January.

Just set up a new build with a 13600k about a week ago. Can it handle having the long duration power limit raised to 160w? It performs better that way, but people say these intel CPUs are prone to degrading under certain conditions. FWIW, the Vcore is at 1.265v, which isn't very high.

>>103587354
who knows
i'd rather go ryzen and not have to worry desu

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>Zotac fans

>>103584848
>powerful Raptor Lake
yeah, POWERful

>>103587043
strange name for a woman but why not
how much?

>>103585969
>5950x

Seems like 7900 GRE is drying up. Sorry to everyone who missed out on the best deal in gaming

>>103587936
I told people to get it but retards instead went "oooh umm i'll get a 4070 super instead xD"

>>103587936
Now we wait for the 7900xt to lower in price to $500 and become the next 7900gre

>>103587995
One of my retarded friends bought a 4060ti for like $500 when for $50 more he could've gotten a 7900gre, or for $50 less a 7800xt

>RTX5060, 5070
DOA

Recs on a $2.5k build for a mid to high ish range for video editing and gaming?

How do you justify your budget and timing of purchases when building a pc? It feels like there's always something better for just a couple hundred more dollars. Or there's always something new coming out soon that will be better and stay relevant longer. When do you just pull the trigger and finally commit to a time and price range?

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>have OCD; intrusive thoughts about computers releasing toxic fumes when they get hot
>have been using a fanless ARM chromebook for 2 years to protect myself
>want a real computer so badly but OCD wins out every time

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>>103585596
>what are 2/3s of demanding games
>what is historical context

>>103585710
There are very few hard bottlenecks these days (like putting a Gen4 SSD with full Gen4 theoretical transfer into a Gen3 slot). Your limit could be compute if your required VRAM is small, or VRAM if your required VRAM is large. Really depends on your specific workload.

>>103586035
>Is it a worse binned chip than the 7600/x?
Yes

>What's a known reliable OC/UV for this specific chip?
You'll have to look for yourself, but personally I wouldn't spend too much time tweaking the CPU other than applying maybe an ECO mode or something

>>103588512
>How do you justify your budget and timing of purchases when building a pc?
I don't do anything else in my life expect sitting in front of my PC so my budget will be around 3000-3500€.
If you're just a normie with friends and IRL shit it wouldn't make sense to spend so much of course.

>When do you just pull the trigger and finally commit to a time and price range?
you check when the stuff and that interests you the most gets an update.
for example in 1-2 month we get the new nvidia 50 series. So I would wait for that.
if it would drop in a year I would just get a 40 series one now instead of waiting.

also it depends how badly do you need it. is there a new game coming out soon? Or any other reasons? pull the trigger now.
otherwise just wait and watch the market, check benchmarks, lurk here.

>>103586166
The 13900K had major problems with degradation, that Intel supposedly fixed now (but who knows, considering the time frame during which this problem was building). Also it uses a bunch of power unless you power limit, which will also decrease the multicore performance of the chip

>>103587043
>Monitors?
AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX, Dell G2724D
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

>>103587073
Something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/m2GJVn
but WaitTM on the 5070

>>103587354
Update BIOS to the latest for sure. After that, you can do what you want with it, and you'll still have Intel's warranty for a few years if anything goes wrong. Really if you notice any instability, just exchange it at the end of the warranty period

My ASRock Steel Legend B580 is so good on my system

>>103588459
Whatever you do, don't get an AMD CPU and or GPU. Especially if you're doing some audio processing as well

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>>103587936
>Sorry to everyone who missed out on the best deal in gaming
Never happened
4070 > 7900 XTX performance
Maybe you can gloat in hindsight if FSR4 is good (and available on RX 7000), but I'll just point to the probably 500 DLSS games where Radeon doesn't have reconstruction or better than native image quality

>>103588459
Since you put editing first, I'll assume that's the primary usage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vvj9rM

>>103588768
>muh dlss
no one cares about fake TAA forced shit
you seem like an actual nvidia shill by the way you post here every day

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>>103588768
you are singlehandidly making me regret not getting AMD

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>>103588512
>justify your budget
Acceptable performance tier, then value within that performance tier. Don't be deceived by bar charts: especially with graphics cards, Geforce cards can only be compared to Geforce cards, and Radeon cards can only be compared to Radeon cards. Radeon != Geforce, and in fact Radeon is substantially worse in practical usage, which is why you can't compare cross vendor.

>timing of purchases
For something like a Geforce graphics card, you want to buy near launch, as the cards are unlikely to drop substantially below MSRP. You'll have the longest use of that performance tier if you buy on launch. For CPUs, can be worth waiting, as their street price often falls below MSRP. Having said that, not worth waiting for months to save $40 or something.

The launch of RTX 50 over the coming months will be a good time to build a PC, especially at the 5070 or above. Lower is more debatable, maybe the mid generation refresh in about a year could have some better low end cards.

>>103588825
You should buy two, keep Radeon afloat.
Two 7900 XTXs is what you deserve, treat yourself.

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>>103588798
Yeah, no one except Nvidia, AMD, Sony, and anyone who wants better than native image quality on a regular basis
Most of the PS5 Pro's recent deep dive was related to reconstruction
https://youtu.be/lXMwXJsMfIQ?si=EWQaF8Cq4r59FmKA&t=920

>>103588768
Why in the nine hells are you recommending a CPU that's 11~21% slower in media editing than the i9 13900k?

>>103588679
>AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX, Dell G2724D
>he didn't list AW3225QF

>>103588988
He needs to be able to play games as well bro.

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>>103588988
>i9 13900k?
Degradation concerns like all of Raptor Lake (stability is a major concern for someone using a workstation), power usage concerns (not because of power bill, just because of quality of life reasons). 7950X and 13900K aren't that different in performance from what I've seen

>>103589046
I wouldn't be recommending a 7950X for gaming. That's not a gaming CPU.

>>103589031
>AW3225QF
It's a good price right now at Best Buy. The 321URX has been a significantly better deal in the past. I doubt the AW3225QF will stay this cheap, but it if does, I'll likely swap the two in my reccs

any difference between 165hz -> 180/240hz

>>103589146
what prices for either should I look for in EU?

>>103589149
Unless you're primarily an esports player, other characteristics of the monitor such as contrast are more important than refresh rate, as long as it's >= 144 Hz

>>103589176
Not sure about EU pricing or options, but if the Alienware is near the price of the MSI, the Alienware is probably a better deal, unless you're against curved monitors. IIRC the Alienware has a few nice to haves like DolbyVision support

>>103589077
>Degradation concerns
To be completely honest I actually forgot about that kek. Yeah this one is a fair concern. On the other things, you can tweak the wattage fine to be around 190 watts without affecting much of the performance on non-overclocking needs. And when it comes to other applications, it's 11% to a whopping 20% better like Photoshop, Lightroom, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Vegas Pro and Davinci Resolve.

>>103584581
Waiting for RX 8000

>>103589230
It's funny, the only MSI cheaper than the AW is from some semi-shady seller.

>>103585848
I lasted 10 years anon, I'm now upgrading

has anyone ever bothered to make an actual ram speed/fclk performance chart for zen 5?
there are a few "ram speed" vids on yt but they use drastically different kits (sr vs dr) with expo timings so it's basically worthless

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Just a heads up for anyone planning on buying an OLED monitor.
Apparently, a lot of OLEDs will show fairly noticeable artifacting on a grey background or any content with grey on it (mine included), resulting in a dirty image with that specific color. Hearing it is a common issue definitly helped with the coping, but I would have liked to have known this before buying one.
Still pretty happy overall despite it. Mine supports HDR 400 so the content looks pretty good.

>>103589479
Not an issue on mine, what model is this?

>>103589149
i can't even tell the difference between 120 and 160.

I have a budget of $600 to upgrade my current rig.
Current rig is the following:
-Ryzen 5 3600
-MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
-RTX 2060 KO Ultra
-G.Skill 16GB ram DDR4
-Corsair CX650M PSU

Looking to get the following:
-Ryzen 7 5700x
-Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB
-A RX 7700 XT 12GB

For the GPU I'm looking between a XFX Speedster SWFT or a Acer Nitro

Any recommendations? Also keep reading that the 7700 is not very good. Any alternatives? In a previous thread, someone recommended a 6950 but I cannot find one to fit my budget.

Also would I need to upgrade my PSU as well?

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>>103589311
>you can tweak the wattage fine to be around 190 watts
Definitely true, but you can do the same thing on the 7950X, dropping its power even lower.

>Photoshop, Lightroom, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Vegas Pro and Davinci Resolve
There is definitely some room to recommend an Intel CPU because of its iGP specifically, which can accelerate some applications. Intel CPUs are often more heavily integrated in that way with applications. Ideally I would rather recommend one of the Core Ultra CPUs for content creation, but I haven't really followed the new line

>>103589331
You should be waiting on FSR4, as if it's not good, RX 8000 will be nearly useless in modern games.

>>103589479
>resulting in a dirty image with that specific color
I forget the specific term for it, but that's an issue with uniformity that becomes obvious when you try to display a specific color, and from I know, it's worst (or most obvious) with gray

>>103587354
in theory power limits are only supposed to protect the motherboard, not the CPU
the CPU has other internal limiters but who knows considering the degradation fiasco

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I have a Ryzen 3 4100 4-Core 8-Thread CPU and thinking of upgrading soon. What is the best Ryzen 7 that I can get for the money, would you say that a Ryzen 9 is worth it, I even heard a little rumor some new ThreadRippers are coming out next year and those are the best of the best.

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>>103589528
>someone recommended a 6950
Complete garbage.

5700X3D + some next gen RTX 50 card, unless FSR4 is good. Don't think that a Radeon card will last nearly as long as your 2060 did without good reconstruction

>>103589583
What workload are you using the CPU for?

>>103589149
there's zero reason to go past 120hz unless you're a pro FPS player. that's just the reality.

i have like $200-$300 to spend on a used/new gpu in europe is it worth to wait or should i just get 6600xt? i could probably gert 6700 but i dont think i'd use it that much so it's kind of a waste of money but i'd be really happy to have something that could do actual AI on the other hand

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>>103589704
Radeon is not a reasonable option for AI

Is socket AM4 still current, or on the way out?
I think my Ryzen 5 3600X is faulty, and it's either try and replace the CPU while keeping all other components the same, or upgrade the entire system because it's 5 years old. I really don't want to do that though, because it worked fine until a couple of weeks ago, but then started bluescreening all the time. One worker thread consistently fails in Prime95 so I guess it's the CPU.

>>103589594
Gaming mostly but also Editing because I want to get into Photo/Video, possibly 3D stuff and also I play with a lot of Mods.

>>103589718
i need opengl drivers because i use linux so arc wont work for me also it's $400 here, maybe it'll come down to $300 but i still dont want it
i'm hoping zluda is going to make everything work but amd just has shit ai hardware

>>103585392
Did you plug the hdmi cable into the motherboard or the GPU
>I probably damaged the CPU while installing the cooler
Why do you say that?

>>103589719
A 5700X3D is a good upgrade from Zen2 for gaming on AM4. Keep in mind that you could probably just downclock that one core to whatever frequency it's stable at (offset the degradation). Update BIOS before removing the old chip if you're getting a new one

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>>103589719
AM4 has been replaced with AM5 for a couple years now.
Did not stop AMD from releasing new CPU for it this year though.

>>103589754
Not worth buying an R9. An R7 5700X or preferably the R7 5700X3D if you have a decent monitor and plans to upgrade to a next gen midrange graphics card like a 5060 Ti or 5070. Having said that I doubt someone on an R3 4100 has either a decent monitor or plans for a $400+ graphics card

Do I need to install chipset drivers on a new build?

>>103590034
yes

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>>103587617
The pricing is kinda close. I think 7700x should be more than enough and I'll just upgrade to whatever AM5 is in a few years.

>>103589807
>downclock that one core to whatever frequency it's stable at

Can that really be done on a per-core basis? Are you proposing underclocking in the BIOS or with some software?

>>103590097
>Are you proposing underclocking in the BIOS
I would start with Ryzen Master, and then after you figure out what's stable, set it semi permanently in BIOS. Having said that I'm not sure what the exact OC features of Zen2 are. Even if you can't change frequency per core, or there was some other problem like doing so destroys your idle power states, you could probably adjust the boost algorithm to slightly below the point of instability. You'd probably only lose a negligible amount of performance.

Another route would be to add more voltage to the chip, either per core or to the boost algo. Basically both solutions are flip sides of the same coin: lower frequency at the same voltage, or same frequency at a higher voltage. Generally speaking the less voltage you use the better, as the chip is already degrading, unless of course you don't care about increasing the rate of degradation and you just want to run the chip into the ground

>>103589594
>Don't think that a Radeon card will last nearly as long as your 2060 did without good reconstruction

What would you suggest?

>>103590234
He would suggest you buy a product sold by his employer.

What's the best non-OLED with these conditions?
>NOT OLEDs
>Usage in bright rooms
>42"-48"
>At least 120Hz
>Used as secondary screen only for YouTube, movies, and gaming
>Best picture quality
>$600 or less, preferably less

>>103590450
>Non-OLED
A QLED, hope that helps

>>103590201
>Ryzen Master
Thanks, I'll have a look. Maybe I can squeeze some more life out of it.
The computer bluescreens when sitting idle, but is stable as anything when running games, streaming, etc. I don't know what to believe any more.

I've currently got 2x8 gb clocked at 2666 mhz on and am4 motherboard. Is it worth it to upgrade to 32gb clocked at 3200 mhz (motherboard wont support any higher) when the dims will cost me roughly $50. Two monitor setup with a youtube video or light work going on the second screen.

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>>103590234
>What would you suggest?
I would suggest waiting until the Spring when you'll be able to see the new graphics card lineups entirely from Nvidia, RTG, and Intel if you're on a budget. If you're not then there's pretty much no universe where Radeon can compete with the 5070 even on value. If FSR4 sucks, Radeon is a non-starter. Even if it doesn't suck, you have to balance the fact that FSR4 is currently in no games (e.g., >>103588886 Wukong) against the hundreds of games that DLSS2+ is in (which is often the only way to get good image quality, e.g., I'm playing Death Stranding right now). Intel is in a better position than Radeon, as XeSS is in a lot of games already and is generally very good, although it has lower adoption than DLSS or FSR and of course, as DLSS2+ has been out for a lot longer, not nearly as many games on an absolute scale. Furthermore there aren't many FSR Frame Gen games, and basically no XeSS Frame Gen games at all yet, as XeSS2 just got released. DLSS Frame Gen is in probably over 200, not even counting all the DLSS Super Res games. And of course we could continue on by talking about Nvidia DLSS Reflex vs Radeon Anti-Lag2 vs Intel XeSS Low Latency, where DLSS has a massive advantage game advantage as well, or Nvidia driver quality, or Nvidia Broadcast, or.....
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-xess-is-now-available-in-over-200-games-on-steam

>>103590330
It's funny that the Radeontards in /pcbg/ are trying to push anons to current gen Geforce if they won't go Radeon because they're mad about RTX 50

>>103590489
In situations like that, I'd almost rather throw out the whole platform and start fresh. Would be annoying if the motherboard were actually the culprit. Still I think adding a little voltage might be the easiest way to solve your problems for now

>>103584715
2080ti

>>103584581
>Web browsing: 5600G
isn't the 5600 really good for most stuff?

can I use compressed air on my monitor to clean the dust off of it?

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What are unforeseen consequences of building 5960x/980Ti shitter in 2024? I've got 1600x1200 100hz crt so basically I don't need performance above this resolution and refresh rate. What would you recommend instead?

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Why would my RAM overclock no more stable?
I bough new sticks 3 m ago it was fine at 1.34 v 3600, but today i crashed few time in the game and memtest has error too. What happened?
I did nothing. RAM experts HELP.

>>103590642
G means built in GPU

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>>103589757
I used a display port and I connected it directly to the GPU.
>Why do you say that?
Because at first I didn’t know you have to tighten the screws alternately little by little, so I tightened too much on one side and I think that might have damaged some pins, I haven’t removed the cooler to check though. But after checking the LED debug on the motherboard it seems to be a problem with the GPU since the VGA light turns on when I start the PC, I noticed that the GPU fans start spinning at first then they just stop, but I have no idea what might be causing this problem, everything seems to be connected correctly, maybe it was just faulty from the start?

>>103590668
The consequences are plenty foreseeable. Generally slow, EOL drivers, used components wearing out or DOA, security patches tanking performance, and so on. I suppose yo could do worse if you've only got $200 but, like, get a job.

>>103590785
ya, exactly

>>103590796
>but, like, get a job
I'm saving for my own place.

>>103590642
8700g is better it has built in RT cores.
Can do anything.

>>103590847
Good to hear it. Not really a good reason to build that PC though. If you want to gayem on the cheap it's usually better to stuff a cheap card into a used office computer.

Microcenter has bundles with the CPU preinstalled now. Did that many people fuck up their mobo pins?

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

>>103590767
>Why would my RAM overclock no more stable?
post zen timings screencap if amd or the intel equivalent to that
>I did nothing
it either wasn't stable at all or you degraded your CPU's memory controller or you have a temperature issue (certain RAM timings are heat sensitive)

>>103590850
ive had 2 apus it's the biggest fucking meme on the planet you literally cant play any game released in the past 10 years any $100 gpu is at least twice as fast 5600g doesnt even decode 4k

If anyone wants a good deal on a 1080p monitor, the ASRock Phantom Gaming 27'' @ 165Hz is going for $99 on Newegg.

ok here's a randomly put together list of what i'd probably get if i was building now, thoughts? I'm aiming for a gaming (targeting 120fps rasterized)/beginner workstation build here without spending too much. Are the days of <1000$ over?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2zKVwY

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Anything to possibly improve here? Gaming/3d modeling, 1440p, dont care about raytracing

>AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
>ASRock Radeon RX 7900 XT Phantom Gaming OC 20GB GDDR6
>ENDORFY Navis F280 Liquid CPU Cooler
> ASRock B650M PRO RS WIFI Motherboard
>Kingston Fury Beast, DDR5, 32 GB, 5600MHz, CL40 (1x32 GB for now since im intending to upgrade to 64gb)
>ENDORFY Supremo FM5 750 W 80+ Gold Power Supply

Budget is ~1700$, land of pierogi

>>103591130
awful cpu/gpu combo, get ryzen 7000 and 40 series/Radeon 7000 instead
1440p 180Hz IPS is dirt cheap now

>>103588768
Frightening that you are still clocking 8 hour shifts and posting these goofy graphs. Upscaled Nvidia vs regular Radeon in a (new)competitive online game is simply retarded.

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>>103591246
See the quality comparison in >>103588965
It's typical

>>103591262
Do you take me for a fool

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>>103591287
Depends, did you buy a Radeon card?

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>>103591105
>1080p 27"
Thanks but no thanks. Might look decent on a wall as a small TV though.

Does anyone actually read this guy's graphs and posts?

>>103591312
No, he literally posts the same shit with the exact same arguments thread after thread.

>>103591239
why is it awful? i know nvidia is greedy and all but that price point doesn't seem too bad (plus 12gb vram since apparently 8 isn't enough) and the cuda cores are good for workstation stuff no? As for cpu, i read that the 5 and 7 series wasn't enough of a difference worth paying for, but i have no frame of reference to back this up personally. Also i just went with 1080p cause thats the only resolution at that size.

>>103591165
>AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
Try the non X CPU if you find it cheaper.
>ENDORFY Supremo FM5 750 W 80+ Gold Power Supply
I would get something 850+W. Also I haven't heard about this PSU before, if you can find something from A-B tiers from this
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
list locally for a good price go with it, just for peace of mind.

>>103591298
Nvidia consoomers are the retards. AMD cards are for Linux chads.

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>>103591389
Enjoy your open sores, pepe

>>103589528
for gaming get a 5700x3d (possibly from ali express if you trust that site)which preforms similar to a 7600x for non gaming dont get it
for graphics card if you like amd then wait 2 weeks to see
8000 series which should way better at ray tracing be more power efficient and probably a solid preformance boost at the lower and mid range
a rx 8600xt 16 gb if they release it would probaby be a better buy than a rx7700 and use less wattage so you dont have to psu uprade

>>103591298
Another single player title with different performance requirements to the one in question. Can you find me a single pro player that uses upscaling or max settings? For a game that recommendeds a 2060 and 5000 or 10 series CPU, can you give a single reason that anyone with an even newer system would upscale?

>>103591353
I'll switch the power supply to be quiet! Straight Power 11 I think

>Try the non X CPU if you find it cheaper.
With the non X 7900 the estimated voltage comes up at 491W - I imagine the 750W will be enough then?

>>103591418
Linux is all about open source software, dumbass, and AMD is the only one with open source drivers.

>>103591165
just about everyone strongly recommends to not buy ram separately even if you buy the exact same thing later , you may have to run it slower
try to get 64 gb in a 2 x 32 kit from the get go

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>>103591541
>Can you find me a single pro player that uses upscaling or max settings?
I'm not a pro, but I can tell you that DLSS is better than TAA in R6:Siege. I don't remember whether you can turn off AA in that game, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Additionally, Nvidia has Reflex in most competitive titles (like R6:Siege), while Radeon has Anti-Lag 2 in very few, and it even got many of its users banned for using Anti-Lag+ in games like Apex and CS

>can you give a single reason that anyone with an even newer system would upscale?
Often DLSS can fix major problems with image quality in games. I'm currently playing Death Stranding, and the only way to get decent quality in that game is to use DLSS or DLAA. Personally I'm using DLSS in conjunction with DLDSR to target 4K and then downscale to my 1440p monitor.

>upscale
And it's not just about reconstruction: what about DLSS Frame Gen, which can help your frame rate exceed CPU limits in a game like MS Flight Sim?

>>103588512
>How do you justify your budget and timing of purchases when building a pc?
Determine what you will be doing with your computer and determine what you can afford. Build accordingly.
Respect your budget whatever the «better option for couple of more dollars ».
As for the timing, I guess it's a matter of how patient you are and how urgent it is. When I built my last computer 5 years ago, I didn't had time to wait. Today, I'm just waiting 3 weeks for the next release, but that's kind of personal. At some point, just pull the trigger and stop thinking about it.

So which store was it that leaked the alleged MSRPs of the 5070 Ti, 5080, and 5090?
>$699, $999, $1999

>>103591634
Interesting perspective but these are not topical. I take it your preference to DLSS in R6 comes from a graphical fidelity perspective which is fine but clearly you're not equipped to opine on what people seeking competitive gameplay should go for so I'm not sure why you so adamantly disapprove of AMD in this context. Humble yourself a bit and stick to the stuff you actually know

>>103591744
>5070 ti
>$699
I was sure it'd be a $800 card, guess nvidia has it's best seller for the next few years

>>103591756
I don't even know if it's a "legit" leak
I'm just referencing >>103585379

>>103591744
Never believe pricing leaks, nvidia under Jensen is famous for keeping pricing secret up to the last minute so they can move their cards around based on if there's any decent competition.

Full exhaust gives me best temps, covering the gaps with mesh to filter dust a good idea? Shouldn't reduce temps much right?

>>103591629
>>103591165
Thanks, I'll get the 2x32gb pack I guess

>>103591320
3060 is just a poor card these days
Get a 4060 Ti 16GB or 4070+ (or wait for 50 series)
Ryzen 9000 is fine but notorious for not being a huge upgrade over 7000
1080p looks really bad especially on big screens, you wont regret 1440p

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>>103591749
>what people seeking competitive gameplay should go for
This is a niche, and as someone who dabbles in competitive games (~4,000 hrs in Apex, ~8,000 hrs in PUBG, and another ~2,000 hrs in R6:S) I do have some idea about competitive players want. I'm also familiar with the performance requirements of games like those. If you want to talk about what the pros use, they pretty much all use 1080p monitors and an Nvidia graphics card (for Reflex at the very least, e.g., Taxi2G used a 3060 Ti for 1080p Apex for the vast majority of his career). If you're playing competitive you probably don't need a beastly system because those games are designed to run on everything. A 4060 is all you need, maybe the new CoD wants more but I haven't checked. New CoD has forced TAA, and there's a 99% chance that DLAA is better than that. I'm not sure why you think you have god like opinion on what competitive players do, when it's clearly the best option to have the features of a Geforce card at your finger tips if you decide to use them to get a competitive edge.

>>103591744
I haven't seen this rumor
The store's name was Your Ass

>>103591817
>4060 Ti 16GB
i remember people complaining about the bus size, would you say its an issue? Also the new intel card looks good for the price, what are your thoughts on those?
>1080p looks really bad especially on big screens
people say it is fine at 24 inches. I have a really confined space so im not sure if I can go 27". I'll keep an open mind though.

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>cpu temps down 20 degrees
>cant tell if its the new case or the repaste
Ill take it

Maybe this isn't a question with a consistent answer (or maybe I am misunderstanding completely), but when a monitor has a listed color gamut percentage, does that mean "How it comes from the factory," or "The best you can expect from this panel after calibrating."

>>103591867
By invoking pro players I'm specifically not injecting my own godlike opinion. The fact that they don't use DLSS is what's telling. Not to mention that, as you say, the games they play don't need the newest and most powerful equipment, so why would they need software designed to bridge gaps in hardware? As to why most of them use Nvidia GPUs, overwhelming mind share, just werks, it's what they've used before, etc. aka the same reasons everyone who doesn't autistically follow PC hardware has an Nvidia card.

>>103592051
It's "these are all the colours this panel is able to display"
It doesn't say anything about colour accuracy

>>103585848
I lived the buddha life for too long, fuck it
I'm taking the consoomer pill

>>103592051
calibrating can only lower the gamut coverage, not increase it

The newest Nvidia driver 566.36 is an unoptimized, buggy piece of shit that actively hurts performance, avoid it at all costs

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>>103592020
That sounds like improper cooler mounting

Wasn't thinking it would be worth it but upgrading my 5600X to a 5700x3d was really nice. Now there's pretty much no stuttering and I got some nice frame boost in a lot of games

>>103589502
My model is an Asus XG27AQDMGZ (monitor pictured is from Reddit.)
According to what I've read it's a bigger issue on LG panels compared to Samsung's so that might factor in your purchase decision.

>>103589149
180 is just an overclooked 165/144
2x increases are a noticeable increase yes
120/144->240 is yes

>>103589479
*laughs in qdoled*
this is a WOLED problem

>>103589502
woled

>>103590450
the cheapest miniled slopper tv you can consoom

>>103589553
>I forget the specific term for it, but that's an issue with uniformity that becomes obvious when you try to display a specific color, and from I know, it's worst (or most obvious) with gray
woled, m'am

>>103592235
It's been shit for a while, I had to go back to the control panel cause the new shitty app was garbage.

>>103592270
Bit of everything most likely, the gpu was too big for the case so it blocked all the clean air from getting to the cpu and the paste I used before wasnt the best

>>103591744
> $699, $999, $1999
This appears to be the MSRPs for 5070, 5070 Ti Supper, 5090.
The 5080 will be at least $1199. I wonder why it's omitted here.

>>103592235
I had to switch back to 566.14 because I started to get horrendous black screening like I was using an AMD card.

What's a good small matx case that prioritises being small

>>103592691
Ncase M2

>>103592634
damn good thing that would never happen with an NVIDIA card

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>>103592785
exactly. I thought I'd accidentally installed a Radeon driver!

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>>103592825

It's been 1 year since I put ptm 7950 on my GPU and it has the same temps as the first month. By comparison my noctua paste became garbage after 3 months.

>>103592235
Did they start using AI to update their drivers? Omega lul

>>103592862
I wanna put it on my 14900k when I open the case to install whatever 50 series card I get but I can't seem to find any decent testing with high end CPUs. I don't want to have to import it from the USA just to find out it sucks.
I tried one of those grizzly pads but I had some issues with the cooler bracket and it ripped when I had to remove it a couple times.

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>>103584581
Hey bros, i am upgrading my PC and am unsure if i should get a new PSU or use the one i already have
I have been using a pic related since around 2018 and it still works well, but i am going to get a ryzen 7 5700X3D and an rtx 3060 and i am afraid the PSU might fail and fry my rig, even though it has never given signs of fatigue
It is supposed to have "full protection" but i am not sure if this means that i could trust it
What advice would you give me?
I am a bit over budget so i cant really afford a new PSU, should i use the one i have or keep the pieces in their boxes until i can afford a new one?

>>103592882
468W on the 12V rails is enough for a 5700X3D and RTX 3060
Whether it'll fail or not (and catastrophically at that), no one can give you a definitive answer

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>>103592892
>Whether it'll fail or not (and catastrophically at that), no one can give you a definitive answer
Fair, but could you tell me if pic related means anything?
It says on the box thats its got "full protection" and these are the protections it has, are they failsafes in case it does break down?

>>103592880
I'd only use it on direct die applications since IHS' don't get hot enough

>>103592882
I've literally never heard of that brand. I found a video and it's from 9 years ago, so that PSU might have been sitting on a shelf for 4/5 years plus your use time.
I would definitely get a new one.
I suggest save up for a Corsair RMx Shift RM750x.

>>103592925
Yeah, they're stuff like Overcurrent Protection, Overvoltage Protection, etc.
They're supposed to trigger a shutdown if a failsafe is tripped

>>103592938
Yeah, they are pretty unknown, but they seem to still be in business(and up to european standards) so who knows
>>103592944
So, if it does fail, worst thing that can happen is i have to get a new psu, right?

>>103592955
>worst thing that can happen is i have to get a new psu, right?
No, the worst thing that can happen is the PSU catches fire or causes an electrical short that burns down your house. I once lost a PSU and 980 because after a hard crash I turned the PC back on after reseating, and the GPU power connection caught fire. I don't know if the PSU saved everything else from a bad GPU, or was the cause of the GPU failure (or caused it while also saving the other components).

>>103592968
Damn
Is there anything i can look out for to turn my pc off in case of a psu failure?
I heard that failing psus make a lot of noise, but mine is as silent as the day i bought it

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What the fuck, only realized now that the X870E Nova Gen4 slots have a bandwidth limit for some reason.
Probably doesn't matter for performance but I thought my NVME had some issue since it wasn't pushing the advertised speeds, turns out it's just some retarded quirk.

>>103592998
Well the PSU itself is part of the protection, and then after that it's up to the house wiring & fuses to protect the circuit. But that is legit "worst case scenario", not a common one.
>>103592998
The noise of a "failing GPU" is more likely to be the fan having worn out over time.

>>103593061
>The noise of a "failing GPU" is more likely to be the fan having worn out over time.
So how can i tell when shit is about to hit the fan?
I clean it often of dust with my vacuum cleaner, so its not that dirty and i keep my pc in a dry place with low humidity, so is there anything i need to look out for to predict a failing psu?

I love my PC

>>103593077
If you smell burnt plastic or you hear an unusual pop or crackle, that's a general idea something is going wrong. If you suddenly start getting crashes or the PC turning off is another symptom.

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An interesting question:

In my region, the new Battlemage is more expensive then 4060. By about 50 bucks

Is it still worth it?

I think it is, for the VRAM but it is interesting to see Intel without a pricing advantage.

>>103593126
Fuck no, b580 is only worth it because of its $250 price tag.

>>103593126
The vram increase alone makes it worth it

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Silly thing to get hung up on, but I am at a crossroads. I have reused my noctua d14 for like 2 or 3 builds at this point, but I think at 13 years old, it's feeling a bit old. Should I just get one of these chinkshit coolers for $35? The d14 doesn't have pwm fans either

Noctua said they'd mail me a new mount, but it's been 3 weeks and no mount. A new mount is $10, but for $25 more, I can just go new

>>103593126
You in Australia? 4060 with better drivers & DLSS would be my pick. The VRAM shit is just AMShills inventing a controversy, if there's an ACTUAL problem, you will be able to drop texture quality instead of going full retard and picking MAX PSYCHO ULTRA SETTINGS and wondering why it's not fast.

>>103593194
Get an Arctic Freezer 3 AIO.

>>103593126
In the good enough category, cheaper always wins

>>103589149
15/75

>>103593194
noctua is from a different era anon. go new unless this is out of nostalgia.

>>103593194
The noctua has given you 13 years of perfect service and you want something else? Why do you have no loyalty?

Am i fucking retarded to replace my 12600k to a 12700k? I dont want to change my whole setup, just a slightly faster cpu for cpu intensive games like cs2.

>>103593265
12900k instead.

>>103593265
just make the jump to amd bro
otherwise, nah

>>103593265
CS2 runs over 144hz on my 12100f . how many FPS do you need?

>>103593194
Buy some pwm fans for the d14, its still a perfectly good air cooler with modern chips

>>103593259
NTA but noctua laid the groundwork for the gold standard of air coolers and while it's admirable for the time period, they still look like garbage for way too much money. 13 years ago you shoved this shit into a corner, now everything has a big ol window to show how garbage the turd brown fans are.

Nobody asked but noctua is fucking done. China/taiwan wipes the floor by providing performance 98% as good for 1/3 the price in many cases.

>>103593282
I dont want it to dip below 240hz

>>103585246
>Im just assuming the Arctic LF3 comes with it pre applied at least.
It comes with a little syringe of paste, it's not pre-applied.

>>103593320
Couldn't disagree more about looking ugly . Noctuas pale brown pallet is refreshing and distinct compared to the sea of black that is every cooler from the chinks or low Germans

What program is the best stress test for CPUs? y-cruncher?

>>103591930
Bus size isn't really an issue unless you have a specific use case? It still performs well. B580 is only 'good' because it's cheap, if you can even find one. 60 Ti still beats it easily though.

>>103585111
> best before 2024 Nov
anon...

>>103593449
>best stress test for CPUs?
What are you trying to stress test exactly? Heat, power draw, undervolt, overclock, memory controller, are all variables you might want to stress individually in different ways.
> y-cruncher?
BBP (max power/heat) and VT3 (extreme IMC stress) are both excellent at what they do.
Do note that it's not recommended to run either of those for long periods of time, especially the former.

>>103593654
Heat so I can flow and re-flow phase change TIM (thermalright heilos)

>>103593663
Then run some y-cruncher BBP, should instantly push Tjmax on your chip.

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>>103593673

>>103593663
I would do a 10 minute run on cinebench r23. If it gets up past 80c you should be fine and not need the burn it to the ground crunching of other programs

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>>103585111
New garbage bin chink-die coming in soon, this one is going to be particularly rough.

https://wccftech.com/chinese-memory-manufacturer-cxmt-reportedly-develops-ddr5-memory-technology/
https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1870058683377561815?s=19

>27"
>4k
>144hz+
What's the recommended monitor for these specs?
Everything online points towards 1440p or 32"+ monitors, or even just 4k+60FPS.

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Did I get a defective monitor?
QD OLED
very hard to take a picture of using my phone since the artifacts show up, but it's right between the red lines I marked

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>>103593838
Another one.

>>103593829
34" ultrawide. there are loads of good ones nowadays.

>>103593851
Nope, the post you're quoting said 27".

>>103593855
I thought he meant 27" or more idk.

>>103593045
800 chipsets are cucked because of forced usb4.0.
My b650 SL can push gen5 x4 (CPU) + gen4 x4 (CPU) + gen4 x4 (chipset) at the same time while 800 series boards can only do gen5 x4 (CPU) + gen4 x4 (chipset). 4 of the M2s on the nova is routed through the gen4 x4 chipset.

>>103593838
>>103593850
well, I did a few cycles of the panel protect cycle, and it seems to have disappeared afterwards..
Lets hope I'm just being ignorant and this is just something that happens.

>>103593838
>>103593850
lol what brand was it?

>>103591579
7900X can be run in eco-mode, which reduces its power consumption and performance to the non X model, meanwhile 7900(non X) can be boosted to gain around the same performance with increased power consumption as the X model. They're basically the same, so pick whatever is cheaper.
750W should do, it's just good to have some room to wiggle.

>>103593654
>BBP (max power/heat)
I just ran that and its insane. Pulled 5W less power than p95 smallFFTs avx512 but it ran 10C hotter

>>103593996
It's the MSI MPG 271QPX E2, but it's actually completely gone now, so no idea what that was about.

>>103594010
I see, thanks anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HznATcpWldo
amdbros... what the fuck...

>>103594528
god I love sponsorblock. so sick of clickbait shit.

>>103593194
>noctua has lifetime mount kits etc
>takes them 1 month to ship it
lmao no way that is worth the 3x price tag over thermalCHAD

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The dream of building a gaming PC became a nightmare. I’m so fucking sad, I don’t have any hope of this working anymore… $1000 into the trash… All I wanted was to play videogames…

>>103594746
Of course it's not worth it
You can buy replacement Thermalright coolers whenever a new mount makes your current one incompatible with the money you saved by not buying Noctua

>>103593045
B650E/X670E also suffers the same issue. No idea why.

>>103594780
I'm sorry anon, I've been there before.

>>103594780
What? It's just Legos. Return the shit that doesn't work.

>>103594528
amd is cooked
intel is the new 2nd best gpu maker

>>103594859
I have no way of knowing whether the problem in with the GPU or the motherboard, it just won’t display anything on the screen, the motherboard debug LED says the GPU is the problem, but who knows, I don’t have any spare parts to test and my CPU doesn’t have integrated graphics. Returning them to the store will be a pain and I can’t pay for new parts right now. It’s fucking over…

>run nvidia OC scanner
>it sets my 4090 to +170mhz core
This seems to good to be true. Is nvidia's OC scanner any good?

>>103593045
>>103594795
There's always a bandwidth limit somewhere - they aren't making motherboards out of fibre optics. In this case 64Gb/s, or 8GB/s, is just the spec of the PCIe4x4 interface.

>>103594911
post pics of your build I want to see something.

>>103594911
beg borrow or steal a cheap display adapter

>>103585848
My i5 2500k belong to a museum

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>>103595011
Cables are a mess, but everything is connected properly I think.

>>103595097
is the gpu power cable probably connected? gpu and psu wise.
did you check if there is junk/dirt in the PCI socket? blow in it.

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Is this a completely wrong reading or have I somehow fucked up installing my GPU? I don't think it would get a decent score if the PCI-E slot was really running at that speed.

>>103595178
PCIe slots go into power-saving when there's little activity

>>103595097
Unmount the CPU cooler, then remove the CPU.
take high res pictures of the underneath of the CPU, and the CPU socket.
Then after you do that, unmount the motherboard and the GPU and unplug the PSU. If you have a desk then put the motherboard on top of the box it came in and do a bench test.

>>103595200
Sure, but HWInfo should have recorded a maximum if it went out of that power saving mode, right?

>>103595178
Are you using a riser cable?

>>103595278
Nope. The slot is only 3.0 and a bit fucked (broke the retention clip long ago) but the card is seated firmly and I even have an anti-sag support thing.

>>103595293
what board do you have?

>>103595296
Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7

>>103595318
Can you try the second large slot? It's only 8x but that is still equivalent to PCIE 3.0 16x and according to my quick google it looks like it shouldn't impact performance?
If it does the same thing in both then it's probably a bios or OS/Power Config issue.

>>103595472
actually I misread the board manual, it's only PCIE3. so x8 vs x16 will probably have some performance issue but I don't know how much. But the idea should still work.
Personally though I googled a video for your card doing that test and you got a better score than them so it's possible there's no real issue and you're just going to waste your time hunting for a fix. Maybe do some other benchmarks and see what they compare to other people.

>>103595489
I did some other 3DMark tests and even tried overclocking as much as possible and I got top 10 results for this card so I guess it's just some weird reporting error.

>>103595523
Maybe look in the control panel power options, advanced then PCI Express Link State Power Management, set it to maximum and try again. If it's not that it might be a bios issue or a software bug that ultimately doesn't matter.

What do you guys think of the GP27U monitor? As far as I can tell, It looks nice enough for the small amount of gaming I do, and for media and art work. I've also looked at a chink monitor - 27m2v, which is supposed to be better with backlighting, but I'm not sure how trustworthy it is.

My current monitor is a TN from 15 years ago. I don't want an OLED, because I do work on this computer (I've never used an OLED at home, but I'm sure it'll burn in IDEs and things if left open for 12 hours at a time), and I don't really want two monitors, because I like having papers and things on my desk.

>>103595563
It looks good. IPS, 160hz max refresh with good response times. Only thing I could see is make sure you download the rtings ICC profile because what they got by default seemed mediocre.

>>103591105
Thanks man

Any good deals on a 1440p monitor?

>>103595652
Yes

>>103595652
MSI G272QPF E2 is 32% off on Amazon.

Putting together a core replacement, how does this look?
Everything else is accounted for
>MSI mag x670e tomahawk
>9800x3d
>Gskill trident z5 neo 6000mhz cl30 32gb