Best Type of PIE EditionPrevious Thread: >>8139756>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wikiOptimizations *NEW*https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824>LOCAL FORGEUIMaintained branch:https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/257749/https://civitai.com/models/288584/https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnetIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfEF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
cum in imouto general
flux chads rise up
Top 10 highlighterinos:10.- #9.- #8.- #7.- #6.- #5.- #4.- #3.- #2.- #1.- #That's right, none of you could even be able to do one single decent slop, they were all pure garbage.
>>8142263*sobs*
>>8142263Want the anon from /edg/ to do the highlights hesre as well then?
https://files.catbox.moe/roc7dr.png
>>8141574>>81419587/9
>>81422718/9
>>81422729/9
>>8142271most based poster ittdo you have somewhere where you post your stuff?
Real Top 10 highlighterinos:>>8139756>>8139825>>8140266>>8140579>>8140662>>8140722>>8140459>>8140892>>8141574>>8140911>>8141934
>>8141574please share how to prompt these choco demons
>>8142277I feel like using the previous OP in the top 10 is a bit of a faux pas
>>8142273My little demoness cant be this cute...
>>8142273God I want to see Judith absolutely domming the shit out of Lana with a strap on
>>8142268>he just highlights a literal third of the thread>and it's all only /aco/ shitthat dumb fuck already ruined the /e/ thread. this place has been on a rapid decline but I'd rather it not speed up even more.
>>8142224for Pony? I have 3 some anon dropped here about a month ago, just say the word and I can up them to my MEGA
>>8142276>>8142278i updated the folders at the bottom of the mega, the textless pics have metadatas ( look for Demon'sDaughter folder)https://anon.to/NugvZ4>>8142282i didnt thought about that, interesting idea lol
>>8142299Dominant women that are secret subs for a specific someone are top tier. Especially if it's one of their "servants"
>>8142277>the image I poured my heart and soul into didn't make the cutowari da...reaction image not a gen: https://files.catbox.moe/0s8959.jpg
>>8142301what image
>>8142299oh damn, it's you, should've guessedfyi mega can wipe the 'questionable' images, i wouldn't host anything other than .safetensors there
>>8142299>Witch anal guyoh hey its you Im glad you're still at it and didn't fuck off from genning. I assume you post on /d/ now given the subject of the other images?
>>8142299You should post your stuff on some social desu
>>8142299This is the first time I have seen a loli centaur, my life wasnt complete until now incredible
>>8142300an arc where Lana is stressed out and her sister lila want to help her and ask her serveant Judith for guidance, and i will almost copy paste your sentence as the tips.>>8142305that would terrible q_q>>8142312kinda stopped that one, i need to sort the story better, and the gens feel kinda bad now>>8142313lol, there are often loli in these, it's not easy
>>8142313>>8142318NTA but honestly the only other place these are hostable would probably be sadpanda or this site lmao.
>>8142319That doesnt fly on Pixiv?
>>8142321Pixiv maybe but they tend to nuke AI authors with no warning I hear
>>8142323AI artist is the tortured artistthe true kind of artist
>>8142323Doesnt happen that often considering how much ai account there is
https://files.catbox.moe/dniphy.pngMy addiction to corruption is probably not healthy
>>8142336seek god
>>8142336Based
>>8142338I think my gods might be Lovecraftianhttps://files.catbox.moe/3qo2eo.png
>>8142338i should q_qfound those while sorting kekhttps://files.catbox.moe/nw6rfm.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/cu0xpc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/unfi78.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/spzt5e.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9hcyfv.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/i01kdq.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3p9eat.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/oje1cn.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/i01kdq.png
>>8142263>>8142285>still seething he didn't make it into the highlightsLet it go, anon..
>>8142299Nice, I'm impressed by your versatility and degeneracy
>>8142350nice kick>>8142360q_q ty but i don't know what you meanhttps://files.catbox.moe/4jyyfg.png (kek)
>(not) cunny pony embedding on civitaiover under on how long it takes for it to get removed?
>>8142367link it quick
>>8142365Box me brother.
>and now the futashit starts
>>8142370oh no, poor (you)
>and now the literal faggot complaining starts
>>8142369https://files.catbox.moe/evhesc.pngyou will need thishttps://civitai.com/models/484133
>>8142246Top 10 highlighterinnos>>8140106>>8140315>>8140388>>8140424>>8140582>>8140579>>8140722>>8140815>>8140816>>8140874>>8140909>>8140975>>8140913>>8140907>>8140997>>8140999>>8141253>>8141332>>8141574>>8141641>>8141719>>8141977
>>8142334Nice. I never get tired of this pose.
Flux bros...https://x.com/ostrisai/status/1822053966383096076
>>8142382The fuck? is this real chat?
>>8142383HUH?
>>8142383>>8142384We're so back? Local chads are eating good.
highlight anon is asurabiased...
asurabased you wanted to say? ;)
>>8142377faggot.
>>8142384>>8142383>4090 bros keep winningGuess I won't be making loras til I scam myself into a 5090 later this year.
>>8142397Maybe next thread anon :(
>more futashit
>more complaining shit
uh oh complainer meltie
>>8142123reForge anon, can you add a way to force CosXL sampling?I think the merge I'm trying to use does not have the keys used for automatic detection>>8142121thiseven the template is updated
Did you guys know that "talking on phone" is an actual tag? that's crazy
>asura>(asurauser)
>>81424005090 delayed til 2025++ due to issues in engineering/production for Blackwell it seems
>>8142410I actually didnt know, how consistently does it work?
>>8142277>>8142377>blessed by KekThis may be the death of these threads. The schizo and shitposting had finally ceased for a while too. Finally started to feel like people were getting along again.
>>8142413That means they're going to go up in cost I bet too, so much for keeping msrp parity between the 4090s / 5090s like I'd heard before. Fucking nvidia I swear to allah man I need amd to step up their game.
>>8142415>how consistently does it work?Fairly well if used along other related tags, didn't even had to inpaint the arm pose
>>8142402extra thicc>>8142410nice compjust some Rabbits eating q_qhttps://files.catbox.moe/9nz8hb.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/oce5tn.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5zx0fp.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/seykd2.png
>multiple posts got (you)'s in the highlightsTime for my ego to get out of control. I guess it's time to start a patreon
>>8142423yeah but also there are not enough people posting pics clearly, compared to /b/ there is no comparison lol
>>8142424There goes my ego...it's so over.
>>8142423yeah i already raked in $300
>>8142425didnt mean to offend, lol
>>8142427that cum looks rancid
>>8142429thats some anon's balls, way too much dust in them
>>8142195I don't have the base res gen anymore since I wipe my gens nightly, but the prompt I used for img2img/inpainting is the same.https://litter.catbox.moe/qs2t9p.png
>>8142410>netorareDoes it even do anything as a tag? Also I ain't got it once yet with your tags, I get some metaverse fucking your own phone stuff or the phone gets cut off in weird ways.
>more low quality futashit
>>8142383>>8142384>cries in 3060
>>8142436>netorare>Does it even do anything as a tag?yes, it is related to the pose, tried with and without it and the gens that had the netorare tag were more coherent with the pose on average, for me at least>Also I ain't got it once yet with your tags, I get some metaverse fucking your own phone stuff or the phone gets cut off in weird ways.Could be your model or style loras
uh oh penis inspector meltie
is this like third #586 thread or something?
>>8142442it's endless eight part two electric boogaloo /hdg/ edition.
>>8142440Wouldn't surprise me, switched to the autism+dpo mix for a bit here so it's more stringent.
some anons post this in /d/ but that look pretty ok for /h/
>>8142442nah we just had 2 585s and now 2 586 but the custodian of the thread has long since abandoned us
>>8142442Sorry sar the previous threads didn't have the required amount of text posts in them (2000) so they didn't count
pain
dunno if i posted that one>>8142460nice quality
Should Uni only have one upper lash on the outside or a lash on each side? Refining the dataset and realized her design isn't very consistent. I like both looks and am torn.
>>8142465What kind of autism is this? you can just quite literally draw the other one using windows paint
Lucky saar
>>8142467>caring about wife's design consistency is considered autismyou wouldn't get it
so anons... there was that lora on civ and...https://files.catbox.moe/w8a7jq.jpg
>>8142475
>>8142475still not worse than the one you made where they were fucking in the bellyi appreciate the dedication tho
>>8142435thanks, looks really good
>>8142384Makes sense similar to the way training on Pony works much better than Animagine. Better innate knowledge helps it understand your training data and only learn what is actually new.
>>8142358>ironic jokethis thread would be absolutely done for if this kind of sperging out were to become unironical and regular
Every new general should have a top 10 or 20 list gens from the previous thread to encourage higher quality posts.
>>8142523faggot.
>>8142525>seething he wouldn't make it into the highlights
>>8142527You won't either.
>>8142519>one post per thread of someone ranking gen will ruin the threadholy retard
>>8142523by who with who's authorityI didn't vote for shit. anyone making claims is some faget with shit taste who probably can't even discern the difference in artistic merits between da vinci and a hackfraud like warhol.
>>8142523Sure, if there was a way to judge them objectively. Or a poll perhaps. The /e/ highilghter is having an effect on the thread, but I wouldn't say he encourages quality.
>>8142523>1 troll ranks next thread>next thing you know the next 10 "le highlighterinos" will be bbc cuck imagesnope.
>>8142533well previous /e/ op had pretty good highlights and threads, shame he sperged out
>>8142531i didn't say anything about your rankings you dumb ass imbecile
>>8142123>can you show me how it should look? though, that part of the UI should be the same as A1111 (in implementation)Hopefully you're still around...Right here, or so, there's usually a little refresh button when looking in the networks tabs. It's missing in mine. Not sure where it's gone. I have a little CSS styler that I use for the network cards (mainly resizing icons that come with the civitai scanner extension), but disabling the CSS and restarting doesn't fix the issue, so I don't think it's that interfering with it.
Its simple, use asurauser or dont expect to be highlighted
>>8142544Man, what do people see with asura_(asurauser)? To me it just looks like squishy western art, like Chelodoy or something. It's fine, but I wouldn't say it's a particularly inspired style.
>bbc sodomizing Illyagrim
>>8142548it looks fucking awful but people got stockholm syndrome now
>>8142545Nice top 10 highlighterino anon!
Every new general should have a top 10 or 20 list gens from the previous thread to encourage lower quality posts.
>>8142555That's like every post these threads usually get. 10-20 images, then bump limit reached with nogens like me.
>>8142550-ace
>>8142557ing
>>8142551>>8142548it's just one retard spamming it.>>8142555shouldn't you be in edg.though I guess edg isn't 10--20, they'e 60-100
>>8142560>it's just one retard spamming it.Huh. Weird. Going in, I saw (what I assumed to be), multiple people posting about it, and thought it was a meme people were making fun of. Then after a while it seemed like they were serious.With this new information, I don't know what to believe.
>>8142559Grimaceing? So that bitch is getting turned into Grimace? Damn.
>>8142532By my authority. I will decide who lives and who dies.
>>8142567What's your verdict on Illyasviel being ravaged by a bbc
Instead of complaining, just post gens?
>>8142548>>8142551I thought I was the only one
>>8142548asura has meme status from Pony's early days, one of the few artists that worked. Plenty of mixes used him in as a stabilizer.
>>8142569Objectively decent quality even if I disagree with the content because lolifags disgust me. Would robably make it in the bottom half (so far).
is reforge dev_upstream just 100% broken right now or is my install just fucked.
>>8142574thats explain the shit yellow tint on pictures then
>>8142569nta, but I'm not a fan of that weird overly-sharpened but not actually defined look going on in the face area. I see it in a lot of gens here and there. I'm not saying I can do better, but it definitely feels like bad craft.
>>8142574It became a meme before pony, the asurauser dude was using this same style since nai came out pretty much
>>8142577wait I may just be retarded
name five (5) artists better than asurauser
>>8142548>Who the fuck is Chelodoy >look it up>Its some furry artistThe fact you even know who this is speaks volumes of your lack of taste
>>8142583Vae decode is still broken though lol
>>8142575She's not even a loli there. Young yes, but "loli" implies even younger age unless you want to call all underage girls "loli" (some people do that)
>>8142587He does normal shit too. Or at least I thought he did. Still works as an example.If you think either of that shit is good, that speaks volumes about your lack of taste.
>>8142584tianmaizang
>>8142584floox clone n°1 to 5
>>8142584tianliang duohe fangdongye
>>8142584shimimaru, hyocorou, cloba, karasu, yukimi
>>8142592>>8142595>>8142598All trash
>>8142600no, you have a shit taste
at least post something fapworthy if youre gonna shit up the thread with pointless arguments
>>8142602nah those are all shit m8
>>8142600Im glad we can agree that Floox is peak
>>8142603I can't, I don't have NAI3 for asura gens>>8142606Yeah those haters gonna hate
>>8142605get a better taste brother
ugh... no gens, am i right?
>>8142584MDF An works really well in Pony (mdf is the tag). Has a really defined sketchy style that can pull off some surprises.haj is another neat one for a western one that seems like it has some watercolor, has some nice thick outlines. Not sure who it is though. I need a higher weight (1.6) for it to show up.fyx has some nice effects on gens, nice shading and good lighting. Again not sure who it is.qppp (another one I don't know who) is pretty good for flat shading and clean linework, faces can sometimes be weird. I weight it at 1.5hews is... hews. Faces can be kind of eh if you're not into it though. 1.2 is what I like to weight it at.Overall though, I just like mixing different tags. I try to find one that has a good base style that's defined, then augment it with some other ones that are similar or do something weird.Here's my (small) list of some I've been putting together.(hews:1.2) (saz, mdf:1.3), (cln:0.8)(moc:1.4), (cln, rhc:0.8), (realistic, photorealism, blender:1.2), (subsurface scattering:1.4), (flat shading:1.2), sakimichan(fyx:1.1), (high contrast, black outline:1.3) (qppp:1.4)Pic related is the first one. Got phantom hands gropin the tits, but it was just a test.
>>8142584lilandy
>>8142610My gens are too strong for you, /aco/ poster
>>8142612based
>>8142613slop poster, I am going into masturbation and I need your strongest gens
>>8142612this but unironically, Lily is peak
>>8142587sperg detectedfor real this time>>8142591unintentional friendly fire>>8142607you can prompt asurauser just fine on pony
>>8142618but... the sepia filter?
>>8142610I'm experimenting with stuff and failing hard at it. This is the "best" I have, and I plan to delete it right after posting it.
For me it's aqe, if you're doing anything with a hint of abs or muscle definition
>>8142603Could you try using this as a negative vibe transfer and see if it makes difference? Let's say at -0.5 value.https://files.catbox.moe/djy8ji.jpg
>>8142616was never supposed to be ironichttps://files.catbox.moe/ik6wpc.png
Is this asura_(asurauser)?
>>8142629how are we supposed to know
>>8142629facesitting now
>>8142631I meant as a characteristic
>>8142629The overly wide hips could be prompted, but her eyes are off. If it is asura it's a small part of some mix.
>>8142627Muh diiiiiickshare loras please
>>8142623I dont get it
>>8142636using shitty scribbles as a negative vibe transfer can supposedly improve gens, at least that's what furry naifags do. not currently subbed so was wondering if it works for anime gens.
>>8142635Bro, lilandy works by default. Like way too good by default.andava works as the tag. Add cunny at your own discretion.
>>8142635lily lora is a mess and my retarded ass can't make a proper one, but here's somethinghttps://files.catbox.moe/0r6m8c.safetensors
>>8142639Im already filling my highlight I guess
>>8142640I'm interested in Lily lora in particular desu. Also his style is not really consistent
>>8142637Are negative vibes a thing? I can only set Information Extracted and Reference Strength to positive values of .01 to 1
>>8142642Thanks anon!
>>8142646yes, you can manually add a "-" to reference strength. leave information extracted at 1
>>8142643the xaxaxa style work too damn well, at least for my tatse
>>8142640that's four artists missing from the rentry now
>>8142654Rentry is pretty far behind. Look at the style spreadsheet... which is in the rentry.
>>8142650Huh, thats a fascinating bit of sorcery, bizarre its unmentioned anywhere in the UISeems like it cleans up the image a bit at the cost of some prompt randomization Reminds me of the schizo prompt back in the day
>>8142656that background's pretty scuffed but yeah I can see the difference I think. I'll try myself soon enough
>>8142653How did you get the blowjob under table? When I tried the girl would never actually be under the table
>>8142655is that separate from the framacalc sheet? huh, I never opened it before
where is lycoris's presets located? the folder
>>8142657I was hoping I could do a side by side test using the same seed but the results are totally differentleft with the negative vibe, right without
>>8142477
>>8142659just one lucky prompt, i'll jut use "under the table" and hope the perspective isn't to much fucked
>>8142661Nah, it's the framacalc one. There's a ton of shit there. I just went through 1 by 1 and tested most of em, adjusted weights and tags as needed and kept the ones I liked.
Anyone figured out how to outpaint with the NAI extension? Both of the outpainting scripts on the img2img tab produce garbage no matter what I try but it works fine on the website (which I hate using because it doesn't automatically save the images locally in the exact manner I set up in webui)?
>>8142664kek
>>8142663thanks
>>8142269that's a very confusing gen lollooks like minigirl and foreshortening at the same time>>8142584omone hokoma agm, mochirong, the dark mangaka, kawakami rokkaku
Feels like I just made a full circle back to 1.5 sloppa
Do you think god stays in heaven because he's afraid of what he's created? Or do you think he fucks with RNG for shit like this?https://litter.catbox.moe/30whnv.jpgI can only imagine my "bestiality marriage" tag coupled with my background tag of being on an aircraft carrier.I've got a few femboys in my wildcards list, so the character is one of them.
using oversaturated on negs actually works
>>8142681I like your style but good lord, from this angles faces are not looking good at all
>>8142681I mean the biggest issue with 1.5 wasnt the style but the fact that you needed a lora for everything and even then it was still insanely rng
>>8142691Could you get rid of the shiny skin? I think it was probably coming from quality negs, but they felt pretty necessary.
>>8142684holy kek
>>8142692I mean probably yeah
>>8142689congrats on being the best genner on this and the previous thread
Going back with previous gens using the scribble negative vibeI'm conflicted on the idea if its inherently better
>>8142698camera pose and expression are way better
>>8142689>>8142545The only good gens so far
>>8142545>>8142689This thread desperately needs more BBC I can flick my white clitty to!
bloras actually work, like whatall other loras are trash now
>>8142689>one breast outExtremely based.
>>8142689Reminder that this canonically NOT BBCIt's a fucking hentai ugly bastard
>>8142689I feel like perspective is pretty irreversibly fucked, unfortunately.also I get that he's ugly fat bastard but the webbed feet is a bit much. as dumb as it sounds, easiest and, honestly, a comical fix would be to give the dude some socks. maybe also add sandals to make it even more retarded.
>>8142707agree, peak sandals
>>8142706I mean he is barely black, just brownishStill a waste of a good gen on a fat fuck
>>8142706>>8142711Just looks like generic faceless male color to me. Could have just as easily been navy blue and it'd read the same. Mostly anyway, the chair would probably have to change colors.
This one came out better, but for some reason its worse at brown girls? weird side effect
>>8142383It being hard to overfit is great for characters ,but don't style loras need at least to some degree have some overfit to it ?
>>8142689lol at people being fooled thinking this is genned
Really happy with how this Trigger style mix/prompt thing worked out.I turned the main part into an embed, so now I don't remember what it was made of, but here's the embed (named STRG). https://files.catbox.moe/q5r5hc.safetensorsPrompt is >(STRG:1.1) (qppp:1.4)Hopefully I don't catch a ban for a small titted Aqua gen.
>>8142724It's more so that her entire body is loli-coded.
>>8142726Well, I guess we'll leave it to the gods.Definitely wasn't intended.If I don't make it back, remember me...
>>8142687>>8142691I agree
surprisingly good m16
Kill shitposters. Behead shitposters. Roundhouse kick a shitposter into the concrete.
>>8142734is that magic?
>>8142734Why is it so blurry?
Similar to the top 10 highlights for images, could we also do a top 10 highlights for posts as well? I think it's a little unfair that people are putting a spotlight only on those who post images when a ton of us come into these threads only to make text posts and a lot of those posts are just as great (if not better than most images).
>>8142734Based shitposterkiller
>>8142737Never heard of a blockout?
Top 10 text highlights:>>8142304>>8142339>>8142397>>8142412>>8142468>>8142525>>8142740>>8142552>>8142614>>8142636
>>8142743mine didnt make the cut
>>8142742NoExplain
>>8142743Lucky saar
>>8142734stuff like this always makes me feel so retarded as someone that just rerolls txt2img for hours until a picture comes out right as inpainting intimidates me and i dont use any of the other bells and whistles in a1111
>>8142746In drawing or 3d, you "block out" a pose or composition by constructing it with simple shapes before moving onto actually drawing, sculpting, or in this case genning, an image.I imagine if it's the same dude (and not someone just using the image as a reference to place down primitives), he blocked it out, and did some CN fuckery.Weirdly enough, (if it isn't just someone else referencing it), the dude has a good eye for body proportions. Might have some success learning to sculpt. If he doesn't know how already. A good blockout like this is a pretty good base to start from. Maybe not so much with the cubes since you'd have a hell of a time smoothing them out into actual arms, but like in general.
>>8142749Inpainting is just img2img of a small area, instead of the whole image.
What's the best upscaler model to try and improve/clean up images for character training?
>>8142754I like 4x_IllustrationJaNai_V1_ESRGAN_135k
migu science continues
>>8142759Should it change the hair color as well?
>>8142760Vectorscope or diffusion-CG work better for "normal" gens. I guess this is more trying to simulate colored lighting. But since it's just trained on hue shifted images it doesn't really "get" color mixing.
Man this negative vibe stuff really kills the intent/accuracy of the prompt
>>8142734perspective is still fucked.notice how miku's knees are significantly higher than they are in the model stage? And how the little couch island type thing has its lip even more significantly higher on the model? Both of those are fucking the perspective bad. There's also the crease along the right side but not on the left.Mentioning the perspective being fucked wasn't a shitpost. It's just actually mentioning that it's fucked. After dealing with this shit for over a year I've been absolutely fucking cursed with an eye for weird/odd details that don't fit or that break anatomy. Even worse that it pops up with actual hand drawn shit constantly.
>>8142765About as much as positive vibe would, no?
>>8142770based
>>8142776not really (but guro a lil') https://files.catbox.moe/c9cfkx.png
>>8142776also nice pic, is that Soka or Korra on top lol ?
>>8142778Holy fuck
>>8142778jesus christ dude
>>8142778anon...
Anyone can help me write a prompt? I'm trying to generate pictures of a sex position where the girl is bent over and her feet are not on the ground because she's lifted by the man.I tried "dangling legs" but it doesn't really work. What other tags would help me achieve this?
>>8142783I can't gen right now, but have this older catbox >>8132491I think it's a mix of lifting person + size difference, leg prompts don't do much a tall.
>>8142783this shit was a lot of gacha for me, but "size_difference, hanging_legs, lifting_person" might help
>>8142778>lil'Nigga what
guro's up there with NTR in "I need someone to be suffering to feel good." but arguably less gay.I do enjoy a bit of "expressionless, annoyed, glaring, facial, paizuri", but that's mostly because it's a "I can use you to get off without consideration" as opposed to "I want you to feel pain and be hurt".I'm less a sadist and more selfish.I've tried adding more violent tendencies into images more so for the shock value and it never stuck. Why waste a perfectly good waifu, there are so many more days of bullying in store when she's still alive.
>>8142789>but that's mostly because it's a "I can use you to get off without consideration" as opposed to "I want you to feel pain and be hurt".Well put, I love this shit as well.
>>8142778>>8142779thanks, it's zoku, it's a shame there are no good ryona loras, just guro
>>8142778>>8142790Based as hell.Gotta delete this before the jannies do.
>>8142796 2d catboxes can get you ban ? :o
>>8142797I posted a league of legends art style gen a few threads ago and got warned.From what I've seen in >>>/d/, /h/ mods are picky as hell. They hate heavy pubs, venus figured bodies and toilet play. I doubt they'd be ok with guro. I wouldn't push my luck lol.
>>8142800>They hate heavy pubs, venus figured bodies and toilet play.all this shit was posted here and noone bothered clearing anything up
Azula deserves love
>>8142802collarbone hand?
>>8142800LoL is like four different art styles though. Ingame 3D models, game CGs from twnty years ago, game CGs today and Arcane.Feels like the bans here care more about report count than the actual rules. Maybe you just postead at a bad time.
>>8142783Suspended will do ya nicely. At least if I'm picturing it correctly.Has some crossover with like actual bondage suspension, but I've had success with it. Specifically in the context of suspended spitroasts. The size of the character does seem to make a difference though, so I'd also try adding larger male to the mix.
>>8142801>all this shit was posted here and noone bothered clearing anything upI do not see that shit but you do you. Either way >>8142797 posted the wildest shit I've seen here and I'd be shocked if jannies don't do anything about it. Not gonna report him though since I hate reportfrogs.>>8142805>Feels like the bans here care more about report count than the actual rules. Maybe you just postead at a bad time.I posted at the very beginning so maybe.
stk,8um,eqjv,cxqz8r,azv, vum, tnv, fqx, mxj
>>8142790>>8142796More like basted, am I right?
>>8142802based
>>8142802Azula deserves brutal facefucks, ass stretched pounded by multiple cocks and bukkake'd on a daily basis.
>>8142809gpo, ces
>>8142801unless those were extremely large women, i would be pissed off lolhttps://files.catbox.moe/dzir08.jpg>>8142808>wild shitcome on, it's funny from time to time q_q
>>8142817reinstalling wow
I love lappi
>>8142813>>8142820nice style
>>8142570Can't trick me.
>>8142808>I do not see that shitnever said it was posted recently, just sayin that jannys won't do shit if it will be posted again
>>8142820plapland
>>8142584blushyspicy, cutesexyrobotts, thirtyeight, oekakikuzi, and whatever 5th shitter I see in every Nai user's combo I guess.
>>8142819
>>8142800>heavy pubsWhat do jannies have against pubs?>>8142813Looks like a raceswapped Korra>>8142817>>8142833Based nelf enjoyers
>>8142759How did you figure which layers you had to train the most?
>>8142838just use noise offset and pyramid noise.
>>8142842Are you not that anon who posted a lowlight lora under 1mb?
>>8142798Nice, what styles did u used here?
>>8142847yesthe trimming process is entirely manual, would not recommend
I never want to see any blood in my porn.
I just want to see some bloody porn.
>>8142850
>>8142855Still, I'd like to know how you did it, seems like it can be useful
>>8142865edit lora, drop block(s), compareonce you've kicked out enough stuff, start scaling what remainstry maximise the effect with fewer layers: for example if a layer makes the image darker, keep that and ditch all other layers that darken the output.repeat until you have very few layers, optionally resize to further reduce size/side effects.purely iterative process through trial and error. lora editing scripts have been shared before, I plan to rewrite a proper UI for it in .NET since python/tk is so fucking terrible that I regret ever touching it.
>>8142858I want to redeem the first time of virgin girls, anyone?
>>8142864
>>8142868The majority of women don't even bleed the first time they have sex though.
>>8138236It's a little too possible wihen using 3D "artists". Need to find a mix that looks good and not just 3D.
>>8142871What about the uh... C-cunny ones?!?
>>8142869realized she had double eyebrows whoops lol
>>8142271>>8142273I want the girl on the left tho...
>prompting for crown braid>gens a crownt-thanks
Sluts?
>>8142867Huh, it actually sounds simple enough, maybe it's possible to do something like that in comfy>I plan to rewrite a proper UI for it in .NETWhy not gradio/streamlit though? It's a lot simpler and doesn't require taping the languages together.
>>8142865Here's the big reveal (at least as far as pony loras are concerned): The only blocks that matter are IN07, IN08, MID, OUT00, and OUT01.IN07 and OUT01 carry a lot of the "style" information such as color and shading.IN08 and OUT00 carry most of the composition and content.MID holds a bit of everything.Train only those five blocks and remove the ones you don't need afterwards. Training all and cutting later seems to work better than to only train the "relevant" blocks, say IN08, MID and OUT00 for a character lora.Then simply run the koya lora resizer with sv_fro @ 0.8 or something to remove useless layers and save as fp8. Congratulations you have a 5 MB lora that works better than all the 320 MB bloat.
>>8142889absolutely correct.It would be nice to have proper documentation for this weird machine from SAI directly but they've only gone and allowed people to burn untold millions of GPU hours just to secure that consultation fee.
>>8142889Also, you almost never need the text encoder, and should only really train it when you want to (re)assign a different meaning to certain tokens. And if you do decide to train it, you will need to meticulously caption your training data to make sure your special snowflake keyword absorbs the right information.
>>8142879>Why not gradiogradio is very uncomfortable to work with, miles ahead of tk though, good shout.
>>8142889>>8142895incredible to still see b-lora cope after all these weeks
>>8142897You got that backwards. The blora fags wrote a paper and made a big deal out of basic bitch information anyone could figure out from a bit of trial and error. All the good lora bakers already knew how those blocks work.
>>8142897most loras are full of junkyou can strip out the junk after training for a more precise and space-friendly lorahave a cool meme right here:https://www.mediafire.com/file/qvslxdpnygdsyce/test_xyz_12317_1722963329_1722964184_dim1_sv_fro_dp0.92_1722964313.safetensors/file
>>8142889>remove the ones you don't need afterwardsHow do I do that? Maybe a retarded question,but never had to know this before,but being able to lessen a style impact on a character lora sounds great
>>8142902cut and compare like a caveman.unfortunately until we have some kind of external validator/goal tool we can't automate this step.if anyone knows how to calculate perceptual loss I am very interested.I will name the tool after your favourite waifu
>>8142872>>8142888looks quite nice
>>8142903but how do you cut?
>>8142903why not use something like psnr/ssim
>>8142889Can this be done with already baked loras?
>>8142902I use a bit of code someone else here posted some time ago. I put that into the kohya GUI resize script and manually comment/uncomment inside the .py file before a run. I am too lazy to make a real interface.https://pastebin.com/ciVycdEa This goes inside the kohya_gui folder.https://pastebin.com/P7xqrDRD This goes in the sd-scripts/networks folder. Line 40 onwards is where the cutting happens.
>>8142902If it's just lessening style impact, there are far easier ways. I think this is more about saving disk space, and a little bit of vram during generation.
>>8142273>>8142876maybe something like,-The servant Judith plans to dominate her master (Lana) later using an enchanted object to relieve her stress.-Once Lana regains her senses, she snaps and decides to punish Judith severely.-However, as she's punishing Judith, Lana realizes that she's far more relaxed than before and stops before truly breaking her.
>>8142899>You got that backwardsi don't think that i do
>>8142922Yes you did.
>>8142921but where do the males come in?
>>8142916>extracted out resizing sectionshey neat, I'll use these too thanks.your version is so well presented compared to that random script, you a python dev?
>>8142924a punishment could be throwing her into a pit with raging beasts or tentacles, who knows q_q
>>8142927>you a python devNo I'm a C++ and C# babby. I ask ChatGPT to write Python for me.
>>8142928rather have it with raging human men tbdesu
>>8142931humans males are into the meatgrinder to make potions in the lore q_q
>>8142929yeah I don't touch python either, C# main here.still good shit, I've been wanting a layer-wise resize solution for more shenanigans, this'll do nicely.
>>8142932yuri and monsters aren't exactly /h/ friendly, just saying
>>8142935i think that's somewhat why 90% of posts here are text, way too much censorship kek
>>8142932how about a secret stash of them for sadistic domination purposes?
>>8142936OFFICER! Banish this poster to /d/!
>cleft of neptune
>>8142941uo/h/?
>breasts of jupiter!
>>8142272catbox?
>tower of mars
>>8142945nvm found the mega ty
>>8142273fukken based
Can you split between GPUs to train on flux (bs1)? Or train in 8 bit? Biggest card I have is 16GB
What's the local equivalent to infilling? It's the feature I miss the most when going from NAI to Pony, I find it FAR better and more reliable than inpainting, all else being equal.
>>8142889>save as fp8. Why? How is precision useless? I understand pruning blocks which maybe could make a lora more focused on certain aspects, but you are just autistically saving space for the sake of fitting your lora on a floppy or what?
>>8142955i mean if you're training loras that are just "do color" or "bright or dark" then they probably don't need any precision
>>8142944
>>8142939here is a >1 man, 1 girl, missionary to cleanse you eyes, although it belond to /e/ since no sexo visible, oh god, dont report pls
>>8142957NICE
>>8142960it got delete even before i post it, scary
>>8142953soft inpaint?
>>8142956Except all the calculations done in layers prior to your lora are in higher precision, but once the features calculated there begin getting multiplied by your fp8 blocks, all that previous precision goes out the window because of one single lora layer.
>>8142955Because I (and most other people) train unet in fp8. The precision is already gone. And it doesn't matter as much as you think.
>>8142973The level of detail in pony is so horrendous you need 4k resolutions to start getting images of passable quality, so maybe for this exact piece of shit of a model nothing really matters anymore.
Big Brown Thighs
>>8142957based
>>8142973>Because I (and most other people) train unet in fp8no you don't
>>8142973fun factif you pre-scale your float weights by alpha (for example, alpha 32 -> alpha 1 and weights rescaled), fp8 is basically lossless.train at a higher alpha todayyyyyy
>>8142973Most loras are junk so I wouldn't go by what most "people" are doing.
fp8 in sd-scripts switches the precision of the base model from fp16 to fp8. afaik the actual lora calculations are still all fp32 unless you're using one of the settings to switch that over to bf16 or fp16
>>8142953Inpainting, but with a specially trained inpainting model. Check the last thread.Supposedly also foocus inpaint, should work with any model but I haven't tried it.
>>8142979Yes I do.
>>8143003https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1057
>>8142977
>>8143007What is that supposed to prove?
>>8143021was going to ask if you have brain damage or something but then i realized that you're also telling people that block weight training works so i guess that answers that
I have a bake request for the kind anons, I tried to make a lora of this myself and I dont like how it came out and I really want a lora of this artist, to pull of his robot look. The artist's name is Yunimaru, he doesn't really even do hentai but his style is really cool. Its mainly robot girl stuff. I have a dataset of 75 images gathered. I have not tagged it since I feel like that is my weak point and I would be interested to see how someone would tag this. I got most of his stuff that I thought would work for this since I mainly want to pull off his robot girls look, this might be more of a concept lora to pull off certain robot parts and less of a style lora but I am not sure.I'll catbox an example image of his style so you can see if before you download the ziphttps://files.catbox.moe/vbya1n.jpgthanks if anyone tries to do it. https://files.catbox.moe/xt23h6.zip
>>8143047Just run WDtagger over it and clean up any obvious hallucinations. That should get you a decent preview of what can be achieved with proper tagging.
I could get lost in NAI for a few weeks just trying out weird style mixes.
Taking a break from the 'cord to hang out with my text general bros.
>>8143051Pussy is drawn so nicely.
>>8143050Is that something other than the tagger in forge? I use the interrogator WD14 SwinV2 v1
>>8143053remove asurauser
>>8143061More like remove everything and start over. Well it looks unique at least.
>>8142272>>8142299how are you getting these results? what ui are you using? my results dont look as dark at all, metadata might not work as well
>>8143065genuinely looks good
>>8143042>can't answer a basic question>calls others brain damagedbro you are so much superior to everyone else you are so smart howeverwhat were you trying to prove?
>>8143051This is the perfect /h/ gen
>>8143079if the guy who wrote the feature you are using explaining how it works in very clear language doesn't prove anything to you then why should i bother
>>8143083SBC?
>>8143087Small for hentai. Look at the size of her thumb, that's still 10+ inches.
>>8143078I might be too far gone with pony
>>8143047>converted to jpgbut why
>>8143100That's what I've enjoyed most with playing around with NAI. No more of that ugly pony shadingNAI actually makes me really sad for Arti. Because Arti is genuinely the closest thing to local NAI but it just had to be so schizo at tagging Does anyone if Euge is working on anything new?
>>8143103I didnt thats an example of what the artist looks like for any prospective baker, that's not ai generated.
>>8143100I'm a naifag and imo that pic has way too much bloom
>>8143106i mean your dataset not your image, i ask because many images from this guy on danbooru are highres pngs
>>8143104He did release arti v2. Named it something else though, and I already forgot the name.
>>8143110He did? I assume it wasn't very good if you can't remember what it's called kek
>>8143109oh, I pulled some images from different places, if I couldn't find that version in a higher res. If you find any better-looking ones feel free to add it
>>8143084use your higher understanding of the engrish language to explain how it works, if you can
NAI wins again
>>8143113are you ok?
>>8143111right, it's this https://civitai.com/models/410737
>>8143122Oh I've completely missed this one>In Neta V2, we re-trained based on ArtiWaifu Diffusion V1.0 (AWA1). Therefore, we used the prompt order summarized in ArtiWaifu:oh noWhy do they insist on having a fixed order? Some kind of OCD autism?
I coomed so much my head hurts
>>8143120now tell me what you think it means (it doesn't mean what you think it means)
>>8143135why do you think that enabling full BF16 training reduces vram consumption when fp8_base is enabled if the entire lora is being trained at fp8
>>8142465I prefer left, but maybe it's just her smug face. The lashes look neater there imo.
What the fuck?
>>8143139because loading base model weights and loading trainable lora weights are two different thingsnow stop dodging
>>8143146And another one?
>>8142246>https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2404
>>8143149sde does shit like that. happens with other samplers too but much rarer
>>8143151anons are too lazy to update the ophttps://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
>>8142570What did I tell you people? The schizoposting had finally come down until "top 10 anime betrayals" starts riling people up again.
>>8143156Don't get this clean installation part, git clone https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge.gitcd stable-diffusion-webui-reForgegit checkout mainyou just copy and paste this into webui-user.bat?
>>8142611Best anon ITT. No one shares artist combos anymore and everyone is using loras.
>>8143163https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/a-beginners-guide-to-the-windows-command-line/
>>8142570I don't want to post my beautiful well-crafted gens in the same thread where asura (asurauser) faggot is on a rampage. Sorry, not sorry!
>>8143165Thanks
>>8143143>>8143149>cfg rescale 0
>>8143183What's wrong with that? I hardly ever see people put it above 0.
>>8143143>>8143149You hit the haunted vectors.
>>8143192>I hardly ever see people put it above 0.On NAI? Depending on your prompts/artists/settings it's almost always useful and a lot of people are using it. Sometimes you'll get very overexposed artists and rescale helps with that.
vid2vid is dead right? so how do you make videos now days?
https://files.catbox.moe/s4rr8f.png
>>8142543You mean this at the right? I tested and it seems it does update the loras (if you added/removed them) from the view.
Sloppahttps://files.catbox.moe/h7w8c3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6gp8j7.png
A googolplex of gens and edits later. That's it, I'm done.
>>8143204Is this meant to be NTR? It's like she's cheering on the viewer.
>>8143214She's just drunk and happy to be having sex. What does NTR have to do with it?
>__artistlora____number__> __artistlora____number__> __artistlora____number__> __artistlora____number__> >(artisttag:__number), (artisttag:__number), (artisttag:__number), (artisttag:__number), >__character__, __pose__, __angle__, __location__who needs ideas with wildcards like these
>>8143225This is worse than jeetslop
>>8143194he's entering her mouth at a dangerously fast speed
>>8143225post an example gen with this
>>8143229>AI I'd like some motion lines for a handjob please>oh you want me to make his gut accelerate, sure
Same thing as usual, claim fast (by changing the password), not a lot but it is what it is. NAI.jamielt2004@gmail.com|passypoo99* with 3000janmills200@gmail.com|Travisandmommy12 with 3000jason.christian630@gmail.com|Jsea251170 with 3000jcarlos.riutort@gmail.com|callelau with 3000jmarkvillareal7778@gmail.com|johnmark7788ok with 3000jmmrem@gmail.com|batata123 with 3000
>>8143231results range from unique poses and styles i'd never get naturally or complete unsalvageable dogshitmostly the latter
>>8143243Are those leaked accounts?
>>8143250Yes I leaked them out of my anus.
>>8143243Finally got one at least, thanks buddy
>>8143251You should consider diapers
>>8143256I'm not into ABDL
>>8143243Thanks. Will use them for upscales when I resub lol. Or try genning at highres
>>8143250The one I managed to grab last time was someone who made an account just to try their textgen free trial. Then he forgot about it and accumulated 3K anals from service outage apologems.
>>8143243wonder if their owners ever reclaim those accounts
>>8143267no, those are old trial ones. I think it should be possible for the owners to recover the paid ones though, since they can provide payment proof emails to NAI?
>>8143203luckies....based
>>8143194based pinky raiser
Gotta say this NAI thing is pretty crazy. Right until you need to inpaint a finger.
>>8142299I'm gonna make a thing with Judith.Man I love inpainting.
>>8143315dangerously based
>>8143315Huh? inpainting hands is one of the reasons I find their inpainting to be much easier than local, don't even have to sketch anything. given you're inpainting with the extension and not their default interface
>>8143336Just feels wrong to install A11 for a couple thousand anals one-off. But I guess you're right, otherwise it's upwards of 40 for a single reroll without upscaling, which likely won't solve anything.
>>8143344Maybe try to use the "arm under breasts" tag and see if you can kind of luck your way into it?
>>8143343Yeah don't bother if you don't have opus, obviously. I honestly wouldn't bother getting refined gens if I just got a 3k freebie. Just test shit or use it to inpaint your local gens. Maybe for an emergency cunny...
>>8143347No dice sadly
>gen 1girl solo pinups with heavy style weights>crisp, coherent image>do it with B/G pose tags>mangled messes and fried to fucki get that a more complex scene affects quality but i wish i knew how other people did it
>>8143361>do it with B/G pose tagswith what? I use one artist tag, one artist name and 3 loras and don't have problems (outside of fucked up hands) but I'm not sure what you mean
>>8143367boy/girl pose>>8143361It's possible those loras were (poorly) trained only on hardcore, and become weaker when used for other things.
>>8143373What CFG are you using the boy girl stuff? also try lowering the weights of the loras and increasing steps, do you use only tags like 1boy, sex from behind, or loras too?
yeah that colorize feature is really rad for edits. if you got one of the giveaway accounts I'd actually leave the points for that, that shit is pretty smart.you can change backgrounds or character features with just prompting that, like adding denim shorts or changing hair color, etc>nogenI used mostly for my weird fetishes and semi-aco stuff so I'm embarrassed to post that but it's not hard to grasp.
>>8143376my CFG is usually 7, euler A at 26 stepstags usually include sex pose (cowgirl, fellatio, etc), general pose (kneeling, all-fours, etc), and one or two angle tagsconflicting tags obviously make errors but even ones with agreeable tags come out odd
>NAI talks againI stopped my sub in januray, what changed? should I get one month sub again when leaving for vacations so I can keep feeding my addiction?
>>8143379>CFG is usually 7try 3 or 4, also make sure you don't run a strange aspect ratio, it should work
>>8143380tons of new features were released since then
>>8143380vibe transfer and "directors tools", nai api extension got better I guess. not game changing but nice. depends though, if you like and prefer local you can just setup a vpn and remote connect to your pc. I personally enjoy nai, not only for coom, so I sub whenever I feel like it, but can't imagine being subbed all the time desu
>>8143382>>8143384are the features free with opus tier? I've been so frustrated by the need to upscale and the associated price
>tfw Asuka is not riding your face with her musty cunt right at this moment
>>8143387Only "Remove Background" from Director Tools is paid, everything else costs 0 anals under the usual conditions (image below 1024x1024/1216x832/832x1216).
>>8143404all tools are available on the site directly? or I need the api extension?
>>8143406You can do either, in my experience only outpainting is impossible with the extension and needs the NAI website, everything else works perfectly fine from within reForge + extension.
>>8143404Doesnt local have this already in the form of rembg addon? what makes that version worth spending cash on?
>>8143412Nothing lol, it's the only paid part of the Director Tools yet it's the only one that's both present on local and is already very good on it.
>>8143404Director tools isn't tied to multiples of 64 so any resolution under 1.05MP (1024x1024) should work
>>8143413okay I guess, lol is right.
>>8143366I hate how AI makes such elongated midsections in leaning/bent over poses, as soon as I visualize the girl standing up and looking uncanny valley it's ruined for me. I otherwise really like this gen though
>>8143417more like pony has fucked up knowledge as it tries to fill up whole space with given characters, proportions should be better if you make image more narrow
>>8143417Thanks yeah it sucks as well, a simple solution I've found is just using attention couple.
food, water... discord screenshots
>>8143396Oh shit, NAI can do alright-ish Kalashnikovs. I thought it couldn't get anything right but the Slop16/Slop4.
Yeah, I admit it, I would eat Asuka's poop.
>>8143425Yeah its good at aks, not that aks are that complicatedIts just a matter of how popular a gun is on danbooruAlways takes a handful of attempts because itll flip the magazine around or some other crap
>>8142299>>8143319https://files.catbox.moe/89gjol.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/ermpxm.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/rf4exw.jpg
>>8143431please make her femdom sex a young boy
>>8143431fucking based.
>>8143423This thread has fallen off lately. No more discord/reddit discussion, no more miqo and cathag, no naiggers seething about pony supremacy, even the pedos are laying low. boring and grim
>>8142867>>8142879>>8142889Huh, actually it's pretty insightful. Just tried to MBW in comfyui two models: the base checkpoint and the base checkpoint with a lora applied. For Arti to vpred conversion, the most important layers are all the out layers. In fact, it can produce vpred images just fine if I only leave the output layers (on the left are all layers, right OUT0-9).As anon pointed out, OUT0 seems to do something with composition, OUT1 with colors and others do pretty much nothing, except OUT5 is really important for straight lines and hands for some reason?
>>8143460I know anon, who actually comes to this thread for images. WE NEED MORE SHILLING, MORE DISCORD SCREENSHOTS, MORE SCHIZOS.
>>8143473fundamentally, we've all been training wrong and it's too terrifying an admission to make so we all keep on like everything is okay
>>8143475I would eat that asshole raw
Does anyone believe Astralite will actually succeed with finetuning auraflow? We might be witnessing total horsefucker death.
>>8143478Draenei are well known buttsluts
>>8143460why would you come to an ai hentai thread for all this garbagesounds to me /v/ and /pol/ are more suitable for you
>>8143486needs tauren cock
>>8143412The interesting parts are colorize (basically inpainting without masks) and maybe the emotion changing.
>>8143473>except OUT5 is really important for straight lines and hands for some reason?Holy CRAP I just noticed that merging this layer at 0.5 fixes everything color range related. Now this can produce perfect blacks and almost perfect whites. Why does this happen though? Is this layer getting cooked somehow?OUT5 1.0 on the left, 0.5 on the right, all other OUT are at 1.0>>8143476
>>8143476I don't understand this kind of mentality, honestly. This is one of the reasons the open source is stagnating.
>>8143499stop spamming this shit already, christ.>>>/aco/sdg
>>8143495https://github.com/geekyutao/Inpaint-Anything>nai invention>>8143496I've noticed that training happens at different rates for different layers, so much so that there should be some kind of layer-wise scaling. Hell even cheald arrived at a similar conclusion:https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/discussions/294#discussioncomment-10081465What a fucking tragedy of a discovery. Look upon it with despair.
>>8143499>Uh, but theyre enemies?exactly
>could post things to a board where it might have a vague chance of being 'appreciated'>nah let's post it in a place where people will be confrontational and react negatively to it instead!what's even the fucking pointwhat kind of mental illness drives someone to this shit
>>8143504>https://github.com/geekyutao/Inpaint-AnythingI've never tried it. Can it do this?
>>8143476i've been telling people that the IN blocks being useless for almost everything for over a year now
>>8143515...your image sir?
>>8142817Whats this style? Really like the shading
>>8143514>ruining asurauser with rustle
>>8143523If you could point to one post that would be great.
>>8143473>>8143496how are you converting Arti to vpred anonCosXL?
>>8143535https://archived.moe/h/thread/7313397/#q7313454here is the first time i mentioned it on /h/ and i've been telling people to do it since
>>8143149KINO
>>8143547Why didn't you ever write a guide on this?
>>8143547Please tell me how in Kohya. A speed boost is always welcomed.
>>8140217>>8140133>>8140220>>8140221>>8143243Yep, I miss these the only days I don't lurk the general. I'm sad.
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>>8143552You could try posting gens too instead of lurking. Makes it more interesting.
>>8143550i'm lazy and the one in the op already mentions it>>8143551if you mean the bmaltis GUI then just go to the box for down LR weights and enter 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
>>8143555I would if I had a compatible graphics card, which I don't.
>>8143547>flatties posted>not a single post deletedthose were the days also seeing my old aomslop pics thereive been at it for too long
>>8143553anny controlnet?
>>8142409I can maybe find a way, if for example there is a node on comfy that does it. Do you have info about it? Because by default it can be a bit hard if it doesn't have the keys when it gets them when loading the model.
I wish Treechan would take off
>>8143557Cool, fount it. I'll give it a test later on.
I miss b-chama
Been gone for 102 business days, are we cascading yet?
based c poster
>>8143567898 days left
>>8143504>I've noticed that training happens at different rates for different layersMore like, some layers are getting cooked, while others are *severely* undertrained. Fixing this is already paper-worthy if it's not kohya's fuck up specifically, however I still don't really get why this happens with my finetune, since alphas are a thing only if you train loras. >Under the current training mechanism, effective learning rates are inconsistent across layers because of disparity in the sizes of the up and down matrices between layers.From what I understand from cheald's thoughts, my *lora* is a full-rank lora, so that shouldn't really affect my finetune? I guess it's time to embrace sdxl_train.py.>>8143540I just train arti using v-prediction target and ztsnr patches.>CosXLThis one uses continuous schedule (not discrete) which is not implemented in kohya.Also quick rundown on different prediction targets:epsilon-parametrized model (such as SDXL) predicts the noise at a given timestep, then removes the predicted noise from the latent noise.x0-parametrized model predicts the image directly given the latent noise.v-parametrized model predicts *velocity* which is a weighted sum of x0 and epsilon noise, and at the full noise level the model predicts x0, then as the noise gets removed, it starts switching to epsilon.
>>8143558Didn't think we had any posters without local or NAI. /e/ does requests at least.
>>8143561there is a node to manually set itcomfy_extras/nodes_model_advanced.pyclass ModelSamplingContinuousEDMCosXL is vpred, the default sigma values are fine>>8143572ohh interestinghave you published this ztSNR vpred finetune anywhere?Also, thanks for the explantion, I understood eps and x0, but never figured out vpredBTW, is the lora you are referring to this ztSNR vpred finetune?Might be good to check how CosXL was tuned, because you can switch nomal SDXL models to ContinuousEDM by merging some specific blocks of CosXLMaybe targeting the same blocks with a full rank LyCO will get you to ztSNR vpred
>>8143496try output_blocks.5.1 at ~0.5-0.8https://pastebin.com/yaKG3wkB
>>8143577>full rank LyCOI meant full preset high rank lycoOneTrainer recently added the ability to target individual layers, so you can directy target all the relevant blocks from CosXL
>>81435780.6
>>8143583it's mutual aomslop girl
>>8143579What's the difference between layers and blocks?
>>8143577>>8143579>have you published this ztSNR vpred finetune anywhere?https://civitai.com/models/615476It's a lora trained with "full" lycoris preset and algo and norm layers.>Might be good to check how CosXL was tuned, because you can switch nomal SDXL models to ContinuousEDM by merging some specific blocks of CosXLIt doesn't work like that unfortunately, continuous sampling is too fundamentally different from discrete sampling, and if you try to merge those two models you will lose most of the knowledge. I didn't look much into it though, and maybe it isn't hard to implement in kohya but there's no chance I'll implement it correctly.>OneTrainer recently added the ability to target individual layers, so you can directy target all the relevant blocks from CosXLYou can also target individual layers in kohya with lycoris if you write your own preset for it.>>8143578This is kinda pointless since I can just do this.
>>8143547>>8143557So then would it be better (and easier) to specify which weights to use in the GUI instead of slicing them out? >>8142889
>>8143591read the code again, list of blocks in giant comment.5.0/5.1/5.2
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>>8143595For individual layers I can just use masks https://github.com/54rt1n/ComfyUI-DareMergeHowever I'm just gonna try to train on all out layers for now.
>>8143580isnt that just the base style
bbc of course
>>8143553>>8143599The mad man!
God I love small breasts bros...
>>8143593that's what b-lora is, but also b-lora is fairly shit and the block weight training stuff doesn't actually work that way. i did a tests with character dataset, a style dataset and a concept dataset and as it turns out there is actually more than just those few blocks being used and increasing the DIM dramatically isn't enough to actually offset the loss in detailscaling the LRs per block based on their content does seem like it might be OK but that is something for someone smarter than me to do
>>8143599cant wait for the NY
>>8143616Would that not be the same thing? Just instead of setting those "useless" blocks to zero you raise them way up so that they start having an effect.
>>8143621ehhhhh comparable.at train time, values are not preserved. you need to somehow pull the thing off baking at exactly when all layers have something trained relatively correctly but nothing is overtrained.if you overtrain anything, it begins to diverge, resulting in data loss.if you undertrain most stuff, it won't necessarily have the correct ratios of weights, even if it has something in itthe ideal scenario is where all relative layer scale values are somehow intuited or computed in advance such that training can be ran entirely in one shot, as opposed to jankly scaled afterwards.
>>8143624Yeah, I get that's the ideal way. But for now, since we already know those blocks are getting undertrained giving them a slight boost should only improve things, no? Long as it's not too much.
>>8143599damn, cascade is looking really good
>>8143629>smegmadyn
What's the best model/lora for shibari and other bondage?
>>8143637NAI
>>8143638Their paid one or the leaked one?Last time I tried the leaked one it had 95% limbgore.
>sdxl_train.py stores gradients for each and every parameter
>>8143637you dont need a lora for that
>>8143641paid>whybest anatomical understanding
>>8143637anything sdxl (that's not dogshit) should be able to do it. either get naiv3 or pony
>>8143647because there are no lips it looks like she's chewing on her own skin
>>8143648dumbass
>>8143164>Best anon ITT. No one shares artist combos anymore and everyone is using loras.I really hate using loras these days, so I'm doin what I can with what I have. People are way too quick to take the shortcut before actually trying shit.
>>8143202Yeah that whole section is just gone for me. No clue where it is, or what I might have pressed to make it disappear.
>>8143577Okay added it I thinkhttps://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/78e86460be03b867946ffe3ae89ff6eb9fd02b80Added Discrete, Continuous EDM, Continuous V, Stable Cascade, SD3, Aura Flow, FluxProbably the things after Continuous V don't work or idk, just tested the first 3
>>8143660>People are way too quick to take the shortcut before actually trying shit.Thats the whole point of AI mate, you cant complain about people doing that here
>>8143632interesting style, can you share a box or give me a hint on how to achieve it?
>>8143665I maybe worded that wrong. I'm just tired of seeing 100 loras a day of shit that's already baked into the model at such a level it's already better than what the 350mb lora can produce.
how do people get to be part of these model training groups?i can only experiment only so much with a consumer gpuj and i wish i had the resources to test out my theories and cojectures fuly.,
>>8143225Here's what I use for like 90% of gens.My master prompt:__camerasimple__ 1girl, (completely nude:0.5), breasts, nipples, pussy, __gazesimple__ BREAK__Char__ BREAK__positionwild__ BREAK__lighting__ , __background__ (detailed background:1.2)>Camera simplebasic from front, from side, etc. I have a more advanced one that has actual compositions, but simple usually works best with sex shit so it doesn't lose the plot.>(completely nude:0.5)Weighted it low, so it shows up when needed, but I can gacha in clothes occasionally, or the clothes from the background wildcard (more on this later) can overwrite it.>gaze simpleSimilar to camerasimple, just basic tags. looking at viewer, looking away, looking to the side, etc. Also have a more advanced one that includes looking at objects and stuff, but it sometimes conflicts, so I leave it off.>Charself explanatory. Some characters that have multiple different looks, or IPs that have a bunch of characters that I don't want to weight too large, I have in their own wildcards inside this.>positionwildI've got 2 sex position wildcard lists set up in this. One for loras/tis, and one with hand prompted positions. For applicable positions, these have a __hole__ wildcard that denotes what's being used, and a __CHole__ for where the cum is.>lightinguses the different lighting tags on the booru to hopefully influence things a bit. Not sure if it's placebo or not, some work, some don't.>backgrounda large list of backgrounds and associated tags. Some come with outfits, like wildcarded kimonos for japanese, vault suits for fallout, military uniforms, that sort of thing.I have a __looks__ wildcard that I append for different "forms" of waifus (slimes, succubi, demons, etc), and __styles__ (lora, ti and custom tags) that I use too.Probably don't need all the BREAKs but I like it for organization when reading the prompts.
>>8143672
>>8143669Oh yeah that I can agree, bonus point when the lora make things working worse
>>8143681too much BREAK fuck with your style btw
>>8143632>>8143666Seconding this. I've been looking for more styles/mixes that can reliably produce fat asses
>>8142413Source?
>>8143666>>8143690You should start vibin' then
>>8143676they form around people who have resources to share
>>8143676runpod or similarwhat universe do you live in
>Make a lora>Consider it shit and unreliable.>Too ashamed of it to share it>Someone on civitai makes a lora of the same character>Much shittier than mineI wish I had that level of confidence
>>8143553>276 artists>only 2 evident in the imageMuy B A S I D O
>>8143676yeah I use runpod to train
>>8143704Just upload it. Nobody will kill you for it.
>>8143704that's what got me to start posting mine lol
>>8143703>>8143706https://lambdalabs.com/service/gpu-cloudis this more or less expensive
>>8143156>>8143151Keeping track of this.
lol the lora figured out that the pockets were just flat textures on the shirt and not actually modeled
>>8143704its not confidence its ignorance, look at all the garbage uploaded on porn site that I wouldnt even dare save on my computer
>>8143704This but making heavy contrast gens
>>8143711the gpus listed on their pricings tab are overkill, on runpod I use a 3090 for 0.22 an hour.
>>8143703i do use runpod, the costs adds up, i don't have the kind of money to keep things going the ways i want.
Is there a complete list of all characters pony knows natively out there? I've been usinghttps://files.catbox.moe/ptls1c.txtbut I've definitely come across characters that are not in that list so I'm wondering just how many I'm missing. I know there's the spreadsheet in the OP but it seems less complete and more focused on the hash styles.
>>8143704The main thing I see is the civitai slop makers just download via tag and do not give a single shit about the character.For this example of Katarina from league if you just filter on Katarina on booru you get tons of terrible art as well as art from various skins (some don't have the tattoo and scar).Here is the most popular LoRA vs mine.https://civitai.com/models/403158/katarina-lol-ponyNow if you don't give a shit either and want to see her nude being fucked, it's going to do a good enough job I do admit because it isn't like it's unrecognizable .
>>8143315>unlucky star
>>8143735literally the same
>>8143740BASED
>>8143738bad lucky star
>>8143735Looks alright to me.
>>8143735a better example would be one of nochekaiser's LORAs who has evidence to suggest he mass produces LORAs by automating the process
>>8143047Is this underbaked? I don't even understand anymore.
>>8143758I had to use his lora one time because no one else had made this character, legit 1.5 tier hands and I had to work around the fact that it was fucking the style insanely hard
>>8142611Maybe that is the play after all, I spent a couple of hours combining stuff with mdf to see if I could come up with something I liked and this one ended up quite nice. Also thanks for the qppp prompt, it's not in the framacalc thing, only in the excel filemdf, (fab:1.4), (qppp:1.4),
>>8143770Yeah heres an example from an anon a few threads back, I'm not familiar with Fate Stay Night or its characters so I can't speak for its faithfulness to the source material, but yeah its quantity over quality for sure
>>8143771hot elf
>>8143765If you describe hair *and* eyes you get human face. If you don't describe arms you'll get no arms.https://files.catbox.moe/0th1wg.png
>>8143773Thanks, have one more
>>8143775Hires fix "fixed" her ass ripples by flattening her ass. The cooler robot designs seems based on how strong the "metal skin" tag is.
>>8143047yeah this seems like a nightmare to tag, its possible though, an anon did a similar robot artist on /d/ and got so cool gens out of it
>>8143782https://mega.nz/folder/1zETBBCL#ljhnXe-obuQLTtrp-9bsjw/folder/4jkhBIQYLORA in question, you could probably follow whatever procedures they did and get something cool out of it. (folders containing /d/ content warning)
>>8143781https://files.catbox.moe/eqa3wb.png
>1,3 its per second training>stop for the day>wake up, load same settings>4 seconds per itwhy
>>8143793what are you baking ?
>>8143794bdora
>>8143786holy fucking sexo thanks for the lora
What are some good civitai style LoRA authorsTired of wanting to try new styles and most of the LoRAs being absolute garbage that don't match the artists at all
(small breasts, sagging breasts:1.4)
>>8143802
Weird, it looks like a bunch of Kingdom Hearts models were removed from Civit. Specifically Pony, but a lot of loras that were there a few days ago are now all gone
>>8143765It looks beter than what I had made, keep up the good work.>>8143782I have used that megas loras a lot and they are pretty good. use them all at 0.4 strength
>>8143805barely sagging but ty
>>8143807Square Enix has been known to C&D models on there they did a full takedown of FF trained models back in the 1.5 days. I dunno how often they do it though.
>>8142611>qpppInteresting, added to mix.
>>8143688Yeah, I've noticed that. Wasn't sure if that was just styles fucking up or not. I guess a break between the character and position is enough.
>>8143830Yeah I dont really get why it happens either, it kinda desaturate the pictures the more you add, I also just keep one between character and position
>>8143687Yeah, I mainly like the flexibility from cutting them out entirely. I'm not limited to whatever the person making it had (or didn't have) in their dataset. What's the point of a waifu lora if the dumbass didn't include pics of her fucking or in the nude? That shit absolutely fights back against gens. Best part is when the trainer defends their position like the inflexibility was intended.>>8143771Yeah, it's a bit of a trial and error process, but it's just another thing to have "fun" with. Don't forget you can add style descriptors as well to augment things a bit.But yeah, adding yours to my wildcard list.Here's one in exchange, pic related. You'll need negpip for the negative weight if you're using it as a wildcard (or just toss it in the negatives).>(aqe:1.3), painterly, (oversaturated:-1.0) (hews:1.1), (slu:1.1), (fyx:1.25)>>8143829Yeah some of them I just use for the effects they have. qppp is great for flattening out colors.I think that's kind of the best way to use em. Find out what main trait they have, then use them as kind of a palette to make something.I wouldn't say I'm too good at it yet, since I think most of mine still kind of have obvious traits from a single artist, but I'm still having fun with it.
>>8143836>>8143830>>8143835>Yeah>Yeah>Yeah>Yeah>Yeah
>>8143837Yeah, as a human I tend to have idiosyncrasies and speak in an identifiable way. You have to be 18 to post here.
>>8143837Yeah...But yeah...Force of habit. That and I was going one by one for replies, and not really reading them after.
>>8143837yeah i feel that
>>8143837https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBSyx85Kp8
>>8143837Yeah...But you know...I mean...On the other hand......Yeah.
>>8143840To be honest I do the same and notice just after so I was just joking, just found it funny to have 5 in a row>>8143839Chill, dont have to take it so personally
>>8143846Definitely wasn't on purpose, but I gotcha. No worries. I would have pointed that shit out as well were the roles reversed.
I will never stop saying yeah
>>8143848Yeah same
catbox?
>>8143848>>8143849
>>8143850Yeah
>reweik 1.3Give it to me straight, bros. Worth it when 1.2 is a loras best friend?
Imagine being a "yea"-fag
>>8143856>reweik 1.3Yeah, not even going to brother testing it
>>8143861>brother testing itESL moment
>>8143819Damn. I wonder if anyone had any backed up.
>>8143836>(aqe:1.3), painterly, (oversaturated:-1.0) (hews:1.1), (slu:1.1), (fyx:1.25)Same pic I posted previously but with that prompt instead, looks nice but it definitely had a very different take on my background prompt which was simply "bedroom, window, night sky"
>>8143591Thanks for the linkIf you don't mind, can you answer:How many epochs did it take for the model to switch to ztSNR vpredDid knowledge from outside the training data get transferred over without any forgetting, since you mentioned your dataset was around 1kDid it require training the TE as wellYMMV, but you defenitely can convert SDXL to CosXL by merging the right blockshttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/model_merging/#cosxlA CosXL anime model I know of:https://huggingface.co/latent-space-dreams/LS_Vividus_XL/blob/main/LS_Vividus_XL_v2_CosXL.safetensors>>8143589My bad, I was using them interchangably, I meant the same thing>>8143664Thanks!
>>8143808Sorry "covered face" is what removes eyes, mostly. How is this?https://files.catbox.moe/2645xw.png
>>8143865From what I've noticed, a lot of them have really big impacts on the background quality. I haven't explicitly looked for them and tested their effects, but they definitely change outputs. Personally, since I'm mostly genning a ton of wildcarded stuff, I'm fine getting extra background detail, whether or not it's super accurate to what got rolled.I'll have to experiment more with em.
>>8143864Probably, usually if I ever see a LORA from a well known or huge franchise (whether it be a style or chara) and its something I might use down the line I'll usually save it for cases like this one.
reForge guy here, Illya added Flux support into OG Forgehttps://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/981I will try to update this branch with the custom samplers/schedulers/comfy/custom extensions/etc from reForge into another branch.But basically his backend change broke like 90% of the extensions, not because gradio 4 now D: any forge extension from before now doesn't work (because ldm_patched is basically deleted)Some A1111 extensions got broken because some A1111 files from modules/ got deleted as well.So I guess that will take a lot of work. Not sure if I send PRs Illya will accept them IoI
>>8143875Can I make a request?
>>8143873Wouldn't it be the opposite? If it's a big or well known franchise it should be easy to find pics/make a lora for it yourself or ask someone but obscure stuff is hard to do.
>>8143870I think it looks pretty good, most of the stuff you sent so far is full on robots, can it do normal cyborgs? I'd like to demo your current lora if you don't mind sharing it.
>>8143877I mean yeah it is, but with how Nintendo just announced a (losing battle imo) pledge to attempt to scrub the internet from r34 of their characters and stuff like that, (apparently Midna stuff got nuked from e621 earlier this week) you can never be too sure. But yeah if its a popular character with lots of fan art in its finetune its a safe bet its built into most models.
>>8143875Well here we go, time to do another install
>>8143880>(apparently Midna stuff got nuked from e621 earlier this week)e621 commited tumblr to child-like characters month ago, it hit shortstacks aswel
>>8143880and I say "safe bet" very loosely with how most touhou/loli characters were scrubbed out by Astra on purpose when Pony was made. so it varies really.>>8143882Right, the loli/shota characters being purged.
>>8143882>>8143880e6 is sitting at 6k midna right now. I wouldn't call that anywhere near nuked, but I don't know the count from before just now. 6k is still a literal fuckton.
>>8143884yeah rule34.xxx has 11k so a bunch probably got wiped, I dunno though I'm not a furry so I'm not familiar with how popular that character is with that crowd. Not nuked but some stuff did get removed.
>opens civitai>"peach">at least ~10 loras for princess peachnintendo either gave up or don't know what the fuck AI is
>>8143887do not tempt fate anon
>>8143888there's still hasbro putting a blind eye on a fucking pony model, if they killed princess molestia they should kill pony too
>>8143886Kinda fuckin dumb.I only ended up playing Twilight Princess because of all the Midna porn. Same goes for Bioshock Infinite. Would not have played it if it weren't for all the porn of Ken Levine's "daughter" getting fucked by dogs. Disappointingly enough there wasn't any of that present in the game. Maybe I didn't open the right rifts.
>>8143876If I know how to do it, sure>>8143881Yeap, I have reforge, forge old and forge new in 3 different folders at this point IoIAt least it seems I can port the "comfy" samplers just fine (Euler A, DPM++ 2M, DEIS, etc). CFG++ seems to be ded because sd_samplers_cfg_diffusion of this new forge doesn't have the model_options that these samplers use.
>>8143880The most popular game company want to remove porn of their character? What kind of retarded out of touch 100 years old announced that?
>>8143878Cyborg girls depend on the strength of "robot joints." Here's the lora.https://pixeldrain com/u/5G3M5ncKI went to gelbooru to get the hires pics and I hand picked them since some of the designs can be very confusing for AI. Pic related.https://files.catbox.moe/w95q04.jpgHere's the dataset.https://pixeldrain com/u/99xga2Rc
>>8143894>CFG++ seems to be ded because sd_samplers_cfg_diffusion of this new forge doesn't have the model_options that these samplers use.NOOOOOOO DPM++ SDE CFG++ is the GOAT shit just werk for me, that's sad also, on a first impression, my gen speed seems faster with this new one
>>8143896awesome, thank you for providing the lora and the data set, for someone like me with minimal lora training skills its nice to see how other people tag it, compared to how I tried it.
>>8143894>If I know how to do it, sureRequest is to take a break from reforge for a few days
>>8143896Its confusing for me already
Do people really meme samplers?
>>8143875Looking good so far, I like the new inpaint tab
>>8143899It was tagged with swinv3 at 0.3 threshold and 0 min fraction in batch and interrogations. I only really added "metal skin" to the robot girls since those models don't know that tag. Then double checked for errors like "from side." etc.
>>8143905Euler a tard here. Still have no idea how samplers affect gens, and I sure as fuck don't know what the schedulers do.
>>8142256Post some Flux gens and let's judge them.
>>8143898I will try to check how I can implement it. I mean, model_options that these model use are in the new backend, but the cfg denoiser doesn't take them in mind basically, for now.>>8143901I will try anon, probably gonna see what Illya develop these days. But these CFG++ samplers, should be doable.>>8143908Yeap, IMO if not using ton of extensions is pretty good. I had to disable all the extensions on the pic IoI
>>8143916Also had to disable xformers for some reason (though I use torch 2.5 so built xformers for that). Using SDP attention atm.Also I don't know if someone can confirm, but it seems X/Y/Z grid doesn't work?
>Checking back my gen folders>It's all huge fat butts or cunny. Or a mix of bothI really thought my taste were a bit more complex than thatI'm not complaining at all tho
>>8143920I can see the boobs getting bigger for my daily folder, guess I start small and get huge the hornier I get
>>8143819I think Disney owns all of the original characters, but it's weird how it seems to specifically Pony loras that got axed. Can't really check anymore, but maybe they were all made by one user who got banned or something
>>8143905>he doesn't know
>>8143914This is a good read.https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/#Evaluating_samplers
>>8143911thanks, ill have to try that tagger I just use swinv2 right now. Also I did some quick testing and it looks like we are getting similar results. Here are some from my 2 loras I made. Guess its a tricky style to get filed in since we don't have many images. It's really a shame he has such a cool style.https://files.catbox.moe/jzkl5j.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6nm9af.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/supfzd.png
>>8143916>Yeap, IMO if not using ton of extensions is pretty good.The only one I care is autocomplete for the tags so yeah>>8143918Tried to run 2 grids to test the samplers, both with different amounts of them and both failed
>>8143924None of that convergence and speed shit matters when what I am aiming for is accuracy in image gens. So far, Euler A produce the most accurate gens from LoRas. Any one else experience differently with other samplers?
>>8143927I had to ask gpt to help me install v3. I don't even remember what happened I think we wrote a script or fixed something idk. Oh wait I remember.I asked gpt how to install this.https://github.com/picobyte/stable-diffusion-webui-wd14-tagger/pull/101
>>8143929Smea dy has improved accuracy as does DPM++2S a. You should actually read that more carefully.
Style mixing anon here.Got a manga/doujinshi scan style for ya. Has some trouble with full-on monochrome, and tends to do spot colors or full color images, but colors seem largely muted, which actually works for it. That probably could just be the score_9 shit fighting back to keep things colored.They're obviously not "good" scans, as good scans would actually look pretty normal, but it's that thing where you add a bunch of shit people largely try to remove, to make it more "realistic". Like smearing chromatic aberration all over things. So think of it as more of a "raw scan" style.Prompt is a bit long though. Mainly because I was just feeling things out and throwing more shit at it until it looked right. Might be able to trim it down a bit>(greyscale, monochrome, manga, doujinshi, manga scan:1.1), (scan:1.4), (hatching:1.5), (scan artifacts, flat color:1.2), (mdf, hews:0.8) (soft shading, spot color:-1.0), halftone background, (bleed through, binding discoloration, film grain:1.3), chromatic aberration, paper texture, manga panel, comic panel, speech bubble, japanese text, border,
>>8143923itzah bros.. does HE know?
>git pull>only errors return when i try to launch every webui and update bat file twice>run a third round of each bat file>one finally updates and launches webuislop coding you never let me down
>>8143932Another one, now that it's in the wildcard list.Unironically, I think it looks better at low res. The super clean lines when upscaling kinda kill it.
>>8143950Do you upscale with hires fix or multidiffusion? I find that multidiffusion upscales tend to keep whatever I liked about the lowres gen which hires fix "fixes."
>>8143951I'm really lazy, so I just use hiresfix. That way I can just chuck a bunch of seeds into the "prompt from file" script, and upres the gens I like from my wildcard rolls.
>>8143953Nta but I tried to do that once and too high strength would fuck up small details like add a second navel but not enough strength were useless, couldnt find a good middle ground that wouldnt fuck up a good part of the batch
>>8143956I keep denoise at like 0.25. I found that to be a nice balance for regular images, then the usual rule of half as many steps as your main image. I think it's just me trying to force it to do shitty quality with the manga scan style is where it's just psychologically fuckin with me.
>>8143958what upscaler?
>>81439594x_Ultrasharp. It's what I liked best after downloading a few and trying em.
>>8143960guess i'll give it a try
>>8143967Based hours have begun.
I have a question about lora training. Is it possible to train say, like 2000 steps, then do 3000 steps some time later? I am using kohya_ss.
>>8143978Yeah, just train the lora itself. I've done it before.Or if you're really scared about it, do the option that saves training data.
>checks on /b/>extremely sussy images from a namefagwhy are these pedos so brazen? it's like AI drove them into a frenzy.
>>8143978preggo belly erotic
>>8143981stfu nobody cares
>>8143983i'm sure somebody cares.
turns out, copying the whole prompt from danbooru is a very effective way to prompt with pony
>>8143981I'm convinced some glowing forces are at work
>>8143999duh?there is even an extension that does that
>>8144002Quite likely. The posts are very low effort, and using obsolete models.
>>8144008imo we are overdue for a big fabricated scandal/attack on local, I wouldn't be surprised if glowing ones are working on it so it blows up in september
>>8144012Didn't they already try it with cstaber? That shit was suspicious as fuck.
>>8144008>The posts are very low effort, and using obsolete models.bro most ai users are retarded/b/ is certainly glowing but shit models and low effort posts are not a proof of anything. most people there post to jerk off. that said there are decent quality gens there sometimes
>>8143981I don't see anything
>>8144015>cstaberI don't know about this
>>8143523>IN blocks being useless for almost everythingThat's not what I found. In fact I trained a style lora on just those ("down_lr_weight": "1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,1") for fun. It's a bit overcooked and I didn't remove any layers, but it is evident IN blocks do a lot of work here. The prompt is just 1girl standing with no score tags on reweik.
>>8143681CardBox?
:( I pulled a hang nail too far and now my finger hurts when I type prompts. don't think I'm gonna make it bros...
>>8143735Doesn't she work by default?
Is there any place to get loras of concepts banned on civitai
>>8144034herein the OP rentry, that is
>>8144021Did you share it?
>>8144039>>8144041most based poster itt
>>8144036No it's not very good. I just extracted frames from a youtube video, ran the auto tagger, and threw everything in the blender.But if you want it: https://files.catbox.moe/vsma37.safetensors
>>8144027Here's a selection of my utility wildcards. I posted a few of them before, but this is a good deal more. And they're a bit more up to date.They should all be in the right folder setup, but most of them link to other wildcards (they're included). If you have to put them in another folder, you're gonna have to go through them all and fix all of the links.https://files.catbox.moe/8867uh.zipOf note, is the "looks" wildcard. It's a list of looks for the waifus. Alternate hairstyles/colors, monster girls, gyaru, goths, etc. I'd check in there before using it to see if there's shit you're not into and prune it. I was kind of on a spree adding anything I could think of.>>8143986In other news, not sure why that got pruned. I was under the assumption tentacles were allowed. Nothing in the rules stating or suggesting otherwise. I'm confused.Unless posting anime characters aren't allowed? I'm confused. Let's try the same character, different subject matter.
>>8143866>How many epochs did it take for the model to switch to ztSNR vpredHard to say, it kinda started switching right away, but it takes very long for it to become good, I suspect it's because each timestep needs to be trained more or less individually. With debiased estimation the loss is *extremely* high, I'm talking about the numbers between 2-10.>Did knowledge from outside the training data get transferred over without any forgettingWell, yeah, kinda, sorta, you can test that yourself. It may struggle with some styles, concepts and colors like before, but it mostly transferred well.>TENot really required, but I did train it a little anyway since I'm using different captioning style.
>>8144054>Wrote "I'm confused" twice.Man, I really fuckin am... >yeah.
>>8144055thanks for the info anonMaybe I will give it a try myself
>>8144054>I was under the assumption tentacles were allowed.welcome to /h/
>>8144060I just don't understand why not?There's nothing more synonymous with hentai than tentacles. Even normies know that shit.>You in there watchin that japanese porn with the tentacles?
>>8144061>I just don't understand why not?that's the joke, /aco/ styles and fetishes ("huge penis, male focus", excessive pubic/armpit hair, western milfs, western makeup etc.) are allowed on /h/ while most /h/ fetish isn't
>>8144061Tentacles are not hentai chuddieHentai is western style fat miqote with black lipstick, not loli and tentacles
>>8144062>>8144063Guess if I had prompted for "dark-skinned male", it would have flown under the radar.Well, I know for the future. No wonder people don't post gens.Speaking of "dark-skinned"Rolled a Gyaru Power. Not sure where the pointy ears came from though.
>>8144062Because unlike /aco/ we're split between /h/e/d/
>>8144067black power
>>8144070i'd like to split again and put /aco/ styles and fetishes on /aco/ in this case
>>8144028Based perseverance anon.
>>8144008HOT>>8143425Cute but she needs less clothes.
>>8143818HIGHLY gropablebox?
>>8144076its NAI
>>8144078damn NAI looking so good
>>8144071Amen to that brother>filename
>>8144076>>8144078>>8144079I'm noticing
>>8144081noticing what?
>>8144080>filenameMeant to name it "I tried"Looks like I fuckin didn't.Still, I couldn't get her to go dark. I really fuckin tried. "dark-skinned female" and "very dark skin" were both pushin 1.5 on weight.
>>8144082his own posts
>>8144085but one of them is mine
>>8144083at least you tried
>>8144078>no metadata
I'm trying to install comfy today, wish me luck
>>8144083I would expect (very dark skin) to be weaker than (dark skin), just because we're using tags. You can also try black skin, which is meant for tar slimes and the like.
>>8144091I know its NAI because this guy always remove the metadata and never post box
>>8144089>Miss 100% of the shots you don't take, you do- Sun Tsu;_; I cri evertime>>8144093I mean it was just a joke post, so it's all good. "very dark skin" was my hail mary. Black skin I feel would definitely go the wrong way though.She'd end up lookin like Mr. Popo if it worked.
>>8144088and the other is mine
uh oh the meltie is back
>>8144099It should be fine. White penis is meant for ghosts, and at 0.7-0.8 it works better than negging dark-skinned male. Only at full strength it gives paper white.
wait so is reforge dead and now i have to go back to forge? im so tired of having to change my damn frontend every 2 months
>>8144120Does he know?
No one tried Flux if it's shit or not?
>>8144121know what? i obviously dont which is why i am asking
>>8144125its amazing, but needs lots of money for a good anime finetune and licensing situation is bad - dev is the good model but it's non-commercial (you can't sell the finetuned model or access to it unless you somehow negotiate with BFL), schnell is apache 2 but it's basically sdxl lightning (finetuned to output in 4 steps, lower quality, doubtful if it's a good target for finetuning)
>>8144120You didn't make a new folder for it?
>>8144127Same bro I'm just shitposting.
How do I get the girl to limply hang her arms off to the side like pic related?
>>8144133where is the pic related?
>>8144133>>8144134Sorry, forgot pic.
>>8144135just inpaint+controlnet
>>8144133Arms at sides? maybe
>>8144135"Arms at sides" tag maybe? But doubt it'll have the dangling effect you want similarly to dangling legs being a pain as well
>>8144135Did you try something like "limp arms" or "limp limbs" yet?
>>8144125It's garbage at anatomy/poses and SFW only.
>>8144150It was advertised as "uncensored".SFW thing could be because of paid service.But yeah, I'll stick with local forge.
>>8143967Likely kid
sometimes i think score_9 improves gen quality but bombs the style too much, particularly on a model like midkemia where it can introduce westoid biasso i had the idea of running low-power score tags, running an XY on (none), score tag, score tag:0.3, score tag:0, for 9 and 8_up to see what happens
Hags need love, too.
>>8144120Illya is back in full force and has been pumping out updates to the "new forge" for the last week and a half, poor ReForged guy is struggling to keep up.
>>8144156I posted a few tests recently. >>8139433 and previous posts.The bias is inherent to Pony itself and passed on to mixes, not just Midkemia. Also it doesn't hurt all styles equally.
>>8144157>you came from here>wanna come in again?
>>8144157Hags need excercise first.Shaving would also help.
>>8144162i know these things. im testing what happens when you reduce the power of the score tag on my lora mix.and the score tag bias is worse on a model like midkemia than say, reweik
>>8143829>Interesting, added to mix.Gimme your full mix, as in, box please.>>8144054Maybe your box too. Thanks!
for my lora mix, for this proompt, i think using low power score tags is a viable thing to try100% res webp: https://files.catbox.moe/axgudv.webp
(my lora mix)https://civitai.com/models/568737/arnold-lobel-for-ponyhttps://civitai.com/models/393322?modelVersionId=445659https://civitai.com/models/411756/pony-xl-cogechabard713-artist-style?modelVersionId=458940https://civitai.com/models/603800/gb5-style-lora-for-ponyxl?modelVersionId=674951https://civitai.com/models/524451?modelVersionId=619916
>>8144177aqua > darkness
>>8144182can you show the result?
>>8144184uhhh, the post directly above >>8144177
>>8144174>Maybe your box too. Thanks!Here's all I've got. I've only been mixing for a day or two.As you can see, I haven't added much more from >>8142611I'm still feeling em out. The greentexted two are my current favorites so far.>(hews:1.0) (saz:1.3) (mdf:1.3), (cln:0.8) [seen in >>8142611 and >>8143973 ] (fyx:1.1), (high contrast:1.3), (black outline:1.3) (qppp:1.4)(qppp:1.3) (haj:1.4) (fty:1.2) (flat color, flat shading, anime coloring:1.2), (retro:0.8), (vum:0.7), screencap, screenshot, (compression artifacts, jpg artifacts:1.3) bloom, [ this one is my attempt at a retro style ](qppp:1.3) (haj:1.4) (fty:1.2) (flat color, flat shading, anime coloring:1.2)>(aqe:1.3), painterly, (oversaturated:-1.0) (hews:1.1), (slu:1.1), (fyx:1.25) [seen in >>8143836 , >>8143986 and >>8143872 ]mdf, (fab:1.4), (qppp:1.4),(greyscale, monochrome, manga, doujinshi, manga scan:1.1), (scan:1.4), (hatching:1.5), (scan artifacts, flat color:1.2), (mdf, hews:0.8) (soft shading, spot color:-1.0), halftone background, (bleed through, binding discoloration, film grain:1.3), chromatic aberration, paper texture,, manga panel, comic panel, speech bubble, japanese text, border, [seen in >>8143932 and >>8143950 ]This one is a custom one too, that I turned into an embedding. Though now I'm regretting it because I don't remember what prompt I used.>>8142724I'm going to have to go through the list of other single styles to find out some more that make good bases. I've been relying too much on hews and mdf I think. Though they do a good job of giving some thin lines that I really like.I'm gonna be giving a pixel style a go, to see if there's any of that in the checkpoint that can be coaxed out. I really doubt it, but we'll see.
>>8144177I honestly can't see a difference here, other than with the full score 8
>>8144187level up your schizo powers
>>8144186This is "aqe" by the way:https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/6592676 It's kinda funny seeing him used with regular girls.
>>8144190One of the anons suggested it earlier, and I gave it a go. Mainly for the painterly look. I think it adds a good bit of texture to things. I do think it's a bit oversaturated, hence the negative. I was a bit worried that the mix was too close in style to his by default, but I checked it against my mix to see how they compare, and I think that it picks up what I want but still keeps it separate.Pic related is just aqe compared to the mix with it in >>8143836Wasn't sure what you meant by "regular girls" until I noticed they all had gigantic tits on the booru. Maybe I should try leaning into that too.
>new forge backend >says 40x cards should support new cuda>run installer and says my card doesn't support new cudaNice, updated my drivers to see if it'd fix it and it didn't so I dunno lads.
>>8144193Maybe try studio drivers if you're not on em already.
>>8144192Yeah that was me.>they all had gigantic titsDon't forget the thighs and abs.
>>8144197Well I thank you for your contribution. I really like what it adds.>Don't forget the thighs and abs.Well I figured that was a given... given your earlier description.Now I just need to figure out a way to get some chunky as fuck thick outlines for some other mixes. Tags just aren't doin it. And most of the outline tags on the booru add secondary outlines like cutouts. There's probably an artist hidden in there that'll work but again, I'll have to go through em and really nail down what they add to things.Maybe I'll post a xy chart for people.
>>8144201try hero neisan, if you can get rid of his side effectsThere's also an outline lora on Civitai but it has some style bias, especially at high strength. https://civitai.com/models/169170?modelVersionId=385007
>>8144194It did not work, I guess I can just direct download the 12.4 cuda but I dunno.
>>8144160Comfy and Ilyas were in a relationship for several years during university, so there's unfortunately quite a lot of animosity between them. Personally I hope they get back together, but the last time they met (during a meeting for Stability) there was a huge shitshow. Comfy ended up leaving because Stability wanted to buy out web-ui and have the two frontends merged with Ilyas collaborating on the project on a contractual-basis. Comfy had various issues with this, the main one being that it would push out stableswarmui, who's dev is comfy's current partner. So comfy left, destroyed several stability servers on his way out (hence why the SD3 release felt so unfinished) and made ComfyOrg.Stability are currently looking to poach Ilyas and still buy out webui, so many people speculate that Stability engineered this situation so they could get comfy out without breaking any contracts and then hire Ilyas fulltime to work on Stability UI.
>>8144021the IN blocks are doing a lot of work because you only trained the IN blocks. thing about the OUT blocks is that unless the character has a very unusual silhouette, like ellen joe from ZZZ having a shark tail, or is a pokemon or something then there's effectively no difference between including the IN blocks or not.
what is the learning rate when training bloras and not using prodigy?
>>8144204>try hero neisan, if you can get rid of his side effectsI'll give it a go, thanks.And yeah, I could use a lora, but part of the fun for me is trying to do it without em. Same for characters.It's fun (for me anyway) poking and prodding the model with tags and weights to see what spills out... or what doesn't when you try to prompt a character that feels like it should definitely be in there, but definitely isn't.
>>8144215>or what doesn't when you try to prompt a character that feels like it should definitely be in there, but definitely isn't.Oh yeah, speaking of shit that should be in there.Anyone having problems with getting "topknot" to work in pony? I don't know if it's just bad luck I've been having, but the tag doesn't seem to work, at fucking all.
>>8144209Why is comfy such an irredeemable faggot? Is comfy legitimately a troon because an hrt addled brain is the only way I can make sense of his retardation
>e-celeb gossipI was told there woud be no women here
>>8144226>I was told there woud be no women heresir this is /h/ not /lgbt/
>>8144155You can only see 1/4 of the face and you think it's a kid?
>>8144226We're one of the few generals that has had a confirmed hot female (female) posting here. Who knows how many of them lurk in the shadows, pretending to be any other fella like you or I.
>>8144209>>>/g/101832803>I worked at stability before they laid me off. they did meet and they did shout at each other (the meeting rooms are meant to be 'soundproof' as they're situated in the middle of our open desk workspaces, but they suck). Hard to hear exactly what they were talking about but it got pretty aggressive and you could tell the mood had changed once the meeting concluded. Comfy got the boot shortly after that.Comfy also just stole forges code for flux NF4 and removed credit for it in top petty troon fashion
>>8144233>faggot acting like a faggotoh wow
>>8144228He is the kind of guy that cries about (You) being a pedophile if girl on your gen is moe, doesn't have lips or her head is bigger than breasts.
>>8144209>buy out webuiHow do you "buy out" an open source project with an open license?
Legit question, why are cunny tummies so erotic? When I look at them I just wanna rub my dick against them till I cum
>>8144242luckies tummies...
Weird, captcha acting all fucking weird today
uh oh hag meltie
>>8144254That's just projecting. He didn't even falseflag as a haglover.
>>8144242So soft, so young, fresh, smooth... Yummy yummy cunny tummy
There should not be other AI sources than NAI. If you use pony you should at least pay for a NAI subscription so you aren't pirating AI.
>>8144135takes me back
>>8144258>>8144256>>8143460uh oh shitposter meltie
Please just go to /b/ and enjoy whatever the fuck there is
>>8144245I promised you some luckies: https://treechan.net/nsfw/thread/202.html#225I was still in the jigoku shoujo mood, hence the candles and flowers and the art style...
much like with Arti, Neta shows a lot of potential and yet these chinks squander it with their retarded practices like no tag shuffling, poor NSFW and anatomical knowledge in general we don't need 1girl standing models, we have 1.5 for that
supanything int-861/198oh
>>8144280>we don't need 1girl standing modelsWho is "we"? The slant-eyed people love that shit.
>>8144276>konata having same height as kagamithat's some NAI psyop ngl, thank you very much anon
>>8144281meds
>>8144282yeah but it's worthless since there are so many models that can already do it
>>8144284Yes we need mods
>>8144282Guess what he meant to say is we don't need more of them. It's not just 1.5, we have Animagine, Heart of Apple, OlympusXL, 4th Tail, a new AOMmix in the works, likely even WD and Resonance based on their previews.The worst part is they don't bring any improvements, it's just more of the same.
>No, see, you are supposed to be scared.https://files.catbox.moe/ugv3hf.png
would someone know what artist is used here? it seems very popular style in gens
>>8144293ching chong man
>>8144293Fang ling ding schwing bing chilling
>>8144291nice
>>8144291No, I'm disgusted.
>>8143923You sure proved him wrong with your pixel slop.
>>8144288It's why we need to prop up someone who comes out with progress on an actual quality project, like new dataset tagging Everyone gets all excited behind these grifters making new slop models when the slop models have stagnated and aren't going to change when the bakers are all using the same recipes
>>8144309You had nine hours to come up with a better retort
>>8144317I'm just surprised nobody's trying the things that worked for pony. Whether it's NL captions, overtraining or combining 4 different datasets, one or more of those must've helped with nsfw prompt comprehension.
Neta can barely even do something as simple as simple fingeringThis is like the 20th gen and it's the only one where the hand is even remotely close to something like itThey're so close, why don't they add just a smidge of nsfw anatomy, please overlord chinks I beg of you
>>8144324giving NAI a try was a mistake
>>8144324This looks closer to 1.5, with the shine and the two-ringed nipple
Neta looks pretty good but I need to try out more styles.
>>8144329Yeah it has varying quality Don't get me wrong, it's a genuinely impressive model. It's just really really RNG and it feels like it's lacking something>>8144332Surely that is pony
>>8144333The first image is Pony, the second is that Pony image ran through img2img at 0.8 denoise and mistoline controlnet with Neta.
>>8144317>>8144319>new dataset taggingAfaik, Resonance R2 (Aka second iteration or v2) will add that while increasing the size of the dataset too, specially for animeIt's the only model I know that will actually do kinda what astrakike did with the captions, but this time jordach plans to create new tags for specific concepts and stuffWD team doesn't seems to start thinking about doing something like this related to new captions, talking about their next iteration (if they ever do it)
>>8144334thats 0.8 denoise? am i missing something?
>>8144334I seeMy GPU is too slow to run another model as a refiner
>>8144339What do you mean?>>8144340I only have an 8gb and it works for me. I just disable the part that runs the second model until I get a gen I like on Pony.
>>8144337We'll see then. New tag captions are not the same as natural language, which may be dipping into base SDXL knowledge.
>>8144343If I do denoise at higher than 0.4 the gen get fucked so I dont get how your 0.8 look like that
>>8144337The speed the resonance team is going at its essentially pointless. Every good choice Jordache finally concedes to making is weighed down by all his shitty, stubborn ones. Notice how 1B is almost complete yet no one posts gens from it?
>>8144350NTA but if you do img2img at base resolution, you can set any denoise (just like you have 1.0 denoise when you txt2img), since AI understands what to do at that resolution perfectly well.
>>8144343>I just disable the part that runs the second model until I get a gen I like on Pony.I've got 8 too, I just don't have the patience to wait for the second model to load
>>8144345I see nostrils
>>8144350nta but you missed the controlnet part, probably. Or you tried it at higher resolution, or your prompt didn't match.
>>8144337Speaking of which, is there someone that has the screenshot of nigle acting outraged when someone was joking about the 64 in the name of one of the epoch being the days until release?
>>8144353Sorry, I was usually posting gens from cascade but anon gave me nai accounts.................
>>8144354>>8144350Oh I missed the part where you kept the same size, I use i2i to upscale x2 so I got confused my bad
>>8144337it's going to be literally 2 years before that even start that, and everyone else will have moved on to t5 models. they'll be stuck in the past like how the furry community is still stuck on 1.5 while we're all getting bored of sdxl
>>8144350It's mistoline controlnet. It's like canny or lineart controlnet for 1.5.>>8144355I feel like Comfy isn't too slow at loading new models but that's probably cope from having to use Comfy. I switch models pretty often anyway so I guess I'm just used to it.>>8144361Controlnet + tiled upscale will also help with that.
>>8144359Reasonable to upgrade. Your taste is wasted on asscade.
I miss done.poster
I need local NAI, please
>>>/g/101834948not bad imo
>>8144356you need to adjust the brightness until you see an anus
>>8144067>dark-skinned maleNo the correct answer is don't trigger a wannabe jannie that lurks here. I've had my posts deleted for "/aco/" simply because the guy was black and someone didn't like that. He didn't report the pic I posted with the white cock right above it. 4chan has always been this petty and it happens on every board.
>>8144376how is it not aco though? there arent dark skinned people in japan, thats a western thing
>>8144380Are you stupid?
>>8144376>simply because the guy was black and someone didn't like thatthats fake and you are a lying liar, if the jannies were actually deleting that we wouldnt have had 3 month of groid spam
>>8144309kek
>>8144372>local NAIwhat does this mean
>>8144391>so take this pic instead.Thanks for the /aco/ pic I guess?
>>8144392NAI or something as good as NAI usable locally
>>8144362>he actually thinks people will finetune t5 to teach it porn tagslollmao even
>>8144401It all depends on AMD. A100/A400 have insane profit margins right now.
>>8144353I don't use Cascade right now, I'm waiting for the 3.6B bake cuz it's the promising one
87.e10. Is it cleared up yet? I can't tellAlso are they finally starting the 3.6b training now?
>>8144406I can't tell either with those super high quality jpg pixels you just uploaded.
>>8144406>Also are they finally starting the 3.6b training now?no they're training another three months+ worth of 1b epochs on jordach's 3090
>>8144404There are other designers trying to get product out. A big problem is global foundry capacity, it's all booked up. New foundries opening, and purpose-built AI accelerators releasing will drive down costs maybe in 4 years.
>be civitai>allow vore, cannibalism, "feral" furry shit, grotesque filth, nipple maggots, untold sick fuck deviant tier fetishes>woman fucking a dog or a horse? bannedI don't understand
>>8144405>promising one It's going to look like shit. It won't have the ability of the proto because it will take too long to learn the massive dataset and they will spend 6 years slow baking at best 12 epoch when it'll need 25+ minimum
>>8144404AMD is not your friend. Don't ever forget that.
>>8144412rape/ryona and anything related to "smaller female, size difference" is banned aswel
>>8144415no one needs friends we need friendly competition to bring down consumer pricing
>>81444061 girl, standing doesnt matter anyways, this comparison is worthless on its own without the ancient gen from older epochAlso how is that asanagi
>>8144412it's just wacky american sensibilities
>>8144415No more than nvidia isor any other corp, really
>>8144412if you know how to look there are some on huggingface, as long as they are still up.
>>8144412bestiality is illegal in most developed country, furry is not
>>8144416those definitely seem allowedhttps://civitai.com/models/559984/human-onahole
>>8144405Remember, Konata is removed from tags (some other girls too, can't remember right now). Also most (all?) copyright tags are missing for some reason, lucky star, hyouka, ghibli and so on and I believe those enhance the styles very strongly so I don't know how they fucked this up.
>>8144422Laws, actually. Meant for real porn, but the distinction was not made clearly enough during their inception.
>>8144413Still better than not delivering anything, everModels takes time and you already know that I already have new hobbies so I don't mind waiting for another 3 months just for a better model to drop
>>8144412That makes me wonder, is there any place where I can get horse fucking loras and such?
>>8144425"Feral" is bestiality except even more fucked up that a woman fucking a dog. Just search "feral" in civitai and you'll understand what I'm saying.
>>8144431>new hobbiesThis is the first new thing since anime/manga and video games for most of us
>>8144432There really isn't a need for it typically. Putting in a prompt like "woman fucked by horse" with the tag "bestiality" included will usually get you to where you want.
>>8144434dragon and pokemon?
>>8144432i remember downloading some shitbakes from kemono imports
why is the comfy guy adding the "license" thing on all his files?"This file is part of ComfyUI. Copyright (C) 2024 Comfy"etc
>>8144438https://civitai.com/models/638603/feral-animals-nsfw
>>8144432I think the only place for fucked up ones is here. Though the rentry is not being updated anymore.
>>8144434It's not about degrees of fucked up, just whether it's legal.
>>8144442To be honest it was 40min ago so who knows how long it will stay, also I dont see how its worse than bestiality since its literally just bestiality
>>8144442I regret clicking on that.
>>8144446I guess in my mind theres a difference between woman fucking animal and man fucking animal since the approach as a straight male viewer to each content is different. In the first you're aroused by the situation, in the second you're aroused by the animal. Does that make sense?
>>8144441C*mfy will get monetized, now that cumrag got the stabiliboot and his savings for hrt are about to run out
>>8144441He's copying illya as part of his weird petty vendetta
>>8144451Yeah I get it, kinda the same logic for why people find loli worse than shota
>>8144441Many corpo devs add this sorta thing to the headers of their files.
>>8144445They ban woman getting fucked by bugs too which is literally not possible irl. How is the less legal than cannibalism or vore?
>>8144451Animal (male) on Woman is less offensive since women are most of the time reasonably the "submissive" with the animal being a horny animal in the dominant position. This is not the case for the reverse, with the animal being exploited by the dominant human -> animal abuse.
>>8144464That's just how it is...Vore is even less possible, and you can see cannibalism in movies.
>>8144442>not at my place so I can't check and download before it gets taken downnoooo......
>>8144473your not missing out on anything, unless you are a furry
>>8144473It actually got taken down fairly quick so it seems I was full of shit. Seems they do ban that stuff as well which is fair.
>>8144451>>8144470Nah I think it's the same as loli vs shota or a male teacher fucking a student vs a female teacher fucking a student.
>Using this option, you can even try SDXL in nf4 and see what will happen - in my case SDXL now really works like SD1.5 fast and images are spilling out!Jesus, this dude is a monster when it comes to coding. If only the new forge supported the old addons I would change in a heart beat.https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/981
>>8144481reforge sama doko...
>>8144481>in my case SDXL now really works like SD1.5 fastso does that actually work this way for vramlets?it was the reason I downloaded an extra copy of forge n updated it, but it kept complaining about outdated cuda or pytorch and well my cuda is the latest, idk what's wrong with it but either way can't even test if that's true
>>8144412Bestiality and loli and major red flags for mastercard and visa. If major website allows it - they are getting ass fucked almost instantly and banned from all funds processing by almost everyone.
>>8144481this is what happens when a professional starts working full-time on something
>>8144412yuropoor laws.iirc britbongland any depicted form of bestiality, regardless of medium, is illegal and can get your ass raided by the cops. This includes dumb shit like mods for video games.
>>8144506Heres to hoping that after the recent race riots that they finally make the great firewall of Britain and stop trying to censor the rest of the internet.
average anime post on civitai https://civitai.com/images/21923637I still cannot understand why shit like this is in many cases, like majority in galleries there
>>8144406Great hands.
>>8144506what about that black mirror episode where that dude fucks a pig
>>81444062 more epochs sir
>>8144532>lazy /hdg/ gooners want perfect hands from the get-go
>>8144528No more weird than furry. It's not an anime site, let people post what they want.
>>8144490he tested it on a vramlet gpu so maybe, as long as you have a card that actually supports itnf4 or whatever seems pretty neat, i hope that it can be applied to training
>>8144534you mean the first one
>>8144534I remember a post on reddit of some dudes wife getting arrested for skyrim mods. Does chaurus stuff even count as bestiality?
>>8143143box please? looks pretty cool desu
>>8144567It's NAI, the metadata is right there.
>>8144565Is it human?
>>8144569ty
>>8144570It's a giant centipede thing. But where do you draw the line? Are elves bestiality? Classic catgirls? khajeets? redguard?
>>8144576Nords and Nords only.
>>8144576this fucking thing? >>8144199
How do I properly use two different character LORAs in the same gen? I thought I could using regional prompter zones but a lora is definitely bleeding the style into the zone I don't want it to be in.
>>8144580regional or forge couple is what you want to use.make sure the lora for the character is in the zone for just that character. Here is an example but these don't need loras.
>>8144580Do not use character loras with style bias. It's what the model does by default, bleeding them over. Having two different styles in one image is very difficult. You can do it with regional sampler, but that is a far more complex workflow.
>>8144582I have but I think what anon here >>8144583 said is what's happening atm.How can I know if a character lora has a style bias?
>>8144539They are great because they offer you the opportunity to inpaint a lot.
>>8144586I think it depends on if the lora for the character was trained on all the same style of image only.As an example look at this shitty nochekaiser Lora.He has a version trained on in-game assets only and the result looks weird and 3d ish from the ingame style. He has another version trained on booru images that looks better, since it was used with images from other artists with more variety.https://civitai.com/models/354087/ganyu-genshin-impactThats just my opinion on it tho, and I am not 100% sure if I am right. So someone else if free to chime in. Which character loras are you trying to use?
What the fuck happened to Neggles?
>>8144591he's on vacation for the rest of the year
>>8144481Anyone tested those supported Flux models on forge?
>>8144582You can't put loras in "zones". Typing <lora:...> in the text box simply loads the weights which affect the entire model, and can't be applied to specific regions. There's some workarounds but they have their own problems.The easiest way to get the contents of multiple loras to work together is to inpaint: generate some placeholder characters in whatever locations you need them with regular regional prompting and no loras loaded, and then inpaint over those characters by loading the relevant loras one at a time.
>>8144481>new forge supported the old addonswhich addons? just want to know before I update
b-chama...
Hold me bros, /e/ got invaded by floox, and they like it.
>>8144608/e/ died months ago when a shitposter started forcefully taking over the OP that intentionally highlighted garbage who'd then samefag spam anyone who called it out.no idea if they're still there or not but they even had a retarded janny commiserating and making things worse.it's time to give it up and let go.
>>8144608Not sure why that style is so memed on here anyway. There's a reason it's so popular because it's more visually appealing than 99% of other artist combos out there.
>>8144612Still there, just look at the highlights
>>8144602nta butBasically all extensions that were made for old forge don't work (because the backend has changed), except if they get updated.Like layer diffusion (this one is updated i think), forge couple, forge ic light, perturbed attention guidance, etc.Extensions that sometimes depends of an old gradio feature from A1111 don't work.Extensions that sometimes depends of A1111 hijack patching don't work.Extensions that load/unloads models don't work (because now models are loaded only when doing inference, not when you select them).X/Y/Z grid mostly don't work.API is mostly broken.You can check more on https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/888But IMO if not using any of these type of extensions or base things, new Forge has some nice features, and well also supports flux (I just use dynamic prompts and loras kek)
>>8144614It's so popular that it got old months ago. Good styles go bad when they're overused.
>>8144617Yes I'm sure that exact same thing was said to Michelangelo.
>>8144615no I was talking about the janny(the shitposter OP clearly never left).They were doing weird shit with pruning what they claimed was "totally (cartoon) /aco/" when it was just heavily stylized. Basically, if it didn't look like 2.5d AOM shit they'd swear up and down it was /aco/, remove it and ban you if you questioned it.Shit was weird.
>>8144608>they like it.1 or 2 anons at most?
>>8144617this is why no one uses asanagi anymore
>>8144612this post is mental illness
>>8144601eh that sounds like too much work, It works by just putting them in the zones, there is a bit more style impact than I wanted but the test was just that it works or not.Catboxing cause its not really /h/ materialhttps://files.catbox.moe/3tkmky.png
Sup fags. I'm out of the loop, what's the best local model now? What's up with Flux and Forge, I saw something about that earlier today.>>8143008box?
>>8144630That's NAI.
>>8144632What artists then
>>8144627Not him but is inpainting really too much work? you just gen two sluts doing double v then mask one side and type her features, gen, mask the other side and type her features, gen. I've kept a tab open for forge couple for a while but that anon's point about inpainting just makes too much sense to not do.>>8144637Vibe transfer
>>8144638who is vibe transfer? link?
>>8144638I hate inpainting more than anything, so that's not an option for me
>>8144641I'm right there with you anon. All I ever heard was how shit local's inpainting was when I was on NAI but when someone told me to inpaint out a wing to better do "single wing" prompt, I realized it really wasn't that shit and it's actually pretty cool and easy to use. Fighting with forge couple or regional prompter is unironically harder than inpainting.
>>8144638Ain't you a funny little fag.
>>8144642It's shit in comparison because most checkpoints don't have an inpainting variant trained. But that is only an issue at high denoise or with a large mask. Or outpainting, which is both at once.
>>8144646Yeah that's what I'm saying. NAI's is better but local's isn't that bad. It does what it's supposed to do and shouldn't scare people away because it enables quite a lot of good things.
>>8144619Mike literally only did one or two works of note. That's not really comparable to mass produced slop.
>>8144656That's the main difference. He spent most of his life painting. But the public never even heard of his slop, only the masterpieces. As opposed to patreon genners making 50-image sets couple times a week.
>>8144668Nice. Is that GITS in there I see?
>>8144670Oh no, pussy thieves...
>>8144670Didn't understand hah but here is the catboxhttps://files.catbox.moe/yc558m.png
>>8144670nice, that looks a lot more disgaea than I can usually get
What's the best local model now
>>8144679(You)
>>8144675Ah. The image had that familiar ghost in the shell 1995 glow and the lineart looked similar, so I thought you were using that lora.>>8144676I'm testing a new lora I made with a more curated dataset and using a different base model. It's much more accurate with the style but the results are hit or miss so far. The lineart is much more clean than the first one I made but sometimes it just shits out extra hands or feets. Very strange.
what is the adventage of running flux ?i had to reinstall everying to put it my forge wasnt updated since Feb
>>8144616>>8144481>apiNAI api's unusable on reforge? I wanted to update to maybe fix my shitty buggy local inpainting for the rare cases I use it but losing nai api aint worth it
>>8144679Its still pony. Flux just came out. Let the furries cook.
>>8144695>text in your gens like in SD3>better prompt following (natural language)>people using x work better, ex. girl using bowNegatives? Very little NSFW capabilities so you'll have to inpaint nudity.
>>8144694ah i extracted a lyco from https://civitai.com/models/454878/animixv9xl-animetv-mixanime-screencap?modelVersionId=641236 and used it on another models>>8144696nai api works on reforge, but not sure if it works on new og forge. let me try and will report (still have 13k anlas i never used from last time i subbed IoI)
>>8144696>>8144710Okay nai extension doesn't work on new og forge, on txt2img at leastModel loaded in 3.8s (unload existing model: 0.4s, forge model load: 3.3s).Requesting Image 1/1: 896 x 1152 - 25 steps.{"input":"score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, sfw, female, haircolor, hairstyles, hairlength, eyecolour, breasts_sizes_ranges, attire_jewelry_and_accessories_head_and_face, accessories, attire_headwear, bangs, legwear, neckwear, face, BREAK scarf, from side, backgroundsvariantstxt","model":"nai-diffusion-3","action":"generate","parameters":{"params_version":1,"width":896,"height":1152,"scale":5,"sampler":"k_euler","steps":25,"seed":3867418806,"n_samples":1,"ucPreset":3,"qualityToggle":false,"sm":false,"sm_dyn":false,"dynamic_thresholding":false,"controlnet_strength":1,"legacy":false,"legacy_v3_extend":false,"add_original_image":true,"uncond_scale":1,"cfg_rescale":0,"noise_schedule":"native","negative_prompt":"watermark, source_furry, source_pony, ribs, sepia, nudity, explicit, skimpy, cleavage, sheer, nsfw, nipples"}}Request Completed in 10.62sPostprocessImageArgs.__init__() missing 1 required positional argument: 'index'extensions\sdwebui-nai-api\nai_api_gen\nai_api_processing.py", line 45, in post_process_images pp = scripts.PostprocessImageArgs(image) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^TypeError: PostprocessImageArgs.__init__() missing 1 required positional argument: 'index'
There is no pony lora of Zero from Grimoire of Zero, is there? Can someone test if she can be generated with nai?
>>8144709i'm a img to img nigger so i guess i still to pony for now >>8144718box plz ?
>>8144719https://files.catbox.moe/81z3l0.pngcabbox
Simpletuner is only for linux, is it over windbros? is there a way to train on a 4090 for flux?
>>8144787WSL
show me the most convoluted way to perform a basic task in comfyui because im curious how much spaghetti can be made for no actual benefit
>>8144717
>>8144804Is this N?
>>8144823you're a N
>>8144835Sure, but when is N Y coming?
>>8143807oh shit, they've even been removed from other sites like pixAI. Nothing in the rentry link, either
>>8143807>>8144875hi im autistic. would there be incentive to make a big hoard of now-removed loras and such? i have the drive space for this its just very hard to track when something gets deleted
>>8144723Whats your process for upscaling? When i inpaint a lot I have no idea how to upscale once im done with it, do you just upscale before then inpaint at high res?
>>8144876Probably. I have a few of the now-removed models, but I don't know where to put them (I assume I'd get banned for putting them back on civit)
>>8144877used tonow i fix it as good i can at base res, 1024x1024 or whateverthen i img2img at 2.5x with 1.1x upscaler (2816x2816 total) with 0 denoise, that's my basethen i do it again except 3-5 times at 0.35-0.5 denoise, i layer those underneath my base and erase parts of the top layer that these ones do better (first one will probably replace 80%+ of the base)then i save it and throw it back into inpaint to do masked-only inpaints at 0.5x-1x to make high detail inpaints of small areasoccasionally for the whole-image img2img step i'll also do a couple with the same parameters but at a way bigger res like 3500x3500 and resize it down, it can sometimes really get details the 2816x2816 can't
>>8144884Alright thats what I was doing for upscaling my non inpaint picture so thats just an extra stepAlso I had really good result croping a small part of the face and upscaling at x4 twice, once at 0.1 noise and the other at 0.3-4 then overlapping on the final gen and keeping what I want, usually the eyes at high denoise and the rest lower, its like a better adetailer pass and I get really sharp result
>>8144879could put em in a torrent because fuck direct download file hosts, theyre just as susceptible to takedowns as civitai would be
>>8144896what setting is your res before applying the 4x upscale?
>>8144879What's exactly spicy about some damn KH models? Plenty of loli models on both sites, so that can't be it.
>>8144902As I said im just upscaling the face so the surface area is really small, it take like 5sec to run and since the area is small you keep the details but get better quality without the denoising going crazy, its just a manual adetailer pass with better result for me, I dont think its possible to set adetailer to get as good result but maybe im wrong
is there a good way to purge metadata from folders of images all at once? for like NAI metadata
>>8144904Ironically, I'm talking about the two grown women
>>8144909convert them to .jpg
>>8144796I didn't save the screenshot, but anon from this thread had colossal comfy flow that could churn out multipanel comic page, with different prompts, poses, CN settings and adetailers and god knows what else. All in a single push of a button.
>>8144904>What's exactly spicy about some damn KH modelsdisney's legal department
>>8144904It's just SE being stupid because FF7R flopped. Just like Nintendo, some nips are very anal about what people do with their content since they think it "harms" them but it does the opposite.
when increasing batch size, do I need to increase or decrease the learning rate? is it linear?
>>8144924maybe
>>8144925understandable. have a great day.
>>8144917go find it, i need to see this
okay no more spam. nice week anons
>late 2024>local still can't do this
>>8144939im pretty sure they can
>>8144939not doing your request
>>8144944>that level of clothing detail>those elaborate highlights>a shot with the character taking up most of the imagelmao no>>8144946you couldn't even if your life depended on it
>>8144679This guy is unironically right: >>8144683
>>8144948skill issue.issue of skill.
Finetuning flux on shamiko from machikado mazoku at the moment. I included two, TWO images of nsfw in my 22 image dataset (yes, it's small, but it's completely functional!). It turns out as little AS TWO images can make the nipples look better. It might be a long way from sex, but this model learns very quickly. This image was made at just 900 steps. It learned the character that quickly. (Probably why it still looks a bit rough)
>>8144960"Finetuning", I meant lora. I'm retarded so used to the textgen scene.
>>8144960What are you using to test train flux?
>>8144960Yeah some people said they only used 8 pics or so for loras and it was learned almost anything. Very high training requirements but at least the results are good.
sex
>>8144959Mega cope
>>8144939box please
>>8144710so new forge isn't reforge? I thought forge stopped updating, did it split into 2 forks?
Anyone have a good regional prompter template for lesbian stuff?
>>8144975no, i think illya finished his phd and is working on the project again
>>8144975forge fag came back and is trying to get flux working FOR THE MASSES but they haven't put anything out yet
>>8144977>>8144978I guess the API guy will update for it at some point, then...? What a hassle
>>8144975reforge is our own homegrown branch of forge maintained by an anon here, and the reforge guy is working on getting forge compatible with flux he also gutted some stuff out of his forge breaking several add-ons in the process.
>>8144982not reforge guy, OG forge guy I meant. I'm personally on the original A1111 still while it gets sorted out.
>>8144966Hold it. How did you prompt this wet body effect?
>>8144987wet skin
>>8144989Which model did you use? Or is it NAI?
>>8144996that isn't my picture
>>8144996look how blurry it is, of course its NAI also as a bonus its the same mix everyone else use
>>8144987have you tried just prompting, I don't know, "wet" ?
how do I train only specific blocks on a lycoris locon?
>>8144999That looks like shit
>>8144964simpletuner, a bitch to setup, and can't even do distributed training at fp8, but it works. Also it's a lora.>>8144965I might try to train something a bit more silly on a small dataset as a test, like maybe that stupid slug thing from girl's last tour
>>8145005is that poop
>>8145008looks more like a prolapse.
>>8144939>>8144999>niggy trying and failing to replicate thatoh no no no
>>8145006I meant hardware. What hardware you're using
>>8144960alright how long until we get a full anime tune of this even without pornit looks extremely promising
>>8145018i'd guess a year at the very least
Is there a way to double hiresfix at x1.5 instead of one at x2?
>>8145023mathematically speaking 1.5x is not double, only 2x is double. so by the laws of math, no, that is not possible
>>8145023no idea but im convinced this does something
>>8144939box?
>>8145025I know they are not equal I was just making an example>>8145026I dont have this option but I dont think thats it anyways
>>81450143x3090, but since fp8 distributed training is broken for now, I'm only using one.
>brought 3060 to cope with pony, wdv and cascade>a proper model releases that requires at least 3090man
Whenever I try to run a flux model I get a "None object not interable error." Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
>>8145031it will be at least a year before it gets a usable anime/hentai finetune And for tinkering/light fun purposes 3060 will do fine, 12gb can inference flux
>>8145031could be worse. you could be on amd like i am
>>8145031Trust in Forge.
>>8145031The 5090 models will be coming soon too, later this year.
>>8145036You don't really think that this is bad.
>>8145039you should try using amd gpus for this and come back to me. a 7900 xtx is great, but the hoops and limitations and experimental support makes it cancer. even if you got through all that, you are still restricted in ways you wont realize until you try to do it. the compatibility is not 1:1, and the speed is either you go to linux or youre barely breaking even with a 4080, and thats only cuda workload wise and knowing how it works for SD its still getting shit on by nvidia's 30 series
>>8144914All of my gens are jpg and it stores the metadata just fine.
>>8145029you used a lora for that?
>>8145042https://files.catbox.moe/diyp84.pngnah, it just kind of happened with some combo of art and pose wildcards
>>8145039With AMD, it's either you use linux or sell it for an Nvidia
>>8145044can you share your wildcards, please?
>>8145045or you go windows and zluda and pray to god that the iron in your mouth doesnt become too tempting to fire
>>8145048>zludahahaha yeah about that ...
>>8145047https://files.catbox.moe/racgyg.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/0bv6gn.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/n41cgv.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/9dg8nv.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/rojfqp.txtmain ones i use not counting my lora wildcards
>>8145050thanks
>>8144987Uh anon? Your script?
>>8145049let me cope anon, its bad enough already
>>8145047Nta, but I posted a shitload that might be useful as well.>>8144054
>finally get a version of the lora i like enough to upload>copying training prompts to write out all of the outfit tokens>notice a typo>look back at the dataset in booru tag manager>50% of all of the images captioned white thighhigh actually say thighhhigh insteadit's over
>>8145057thanks. missed that one.
>>8145058It might not matter. "Thigh" and "high" are two tokens (I think), so it should understand it anyway. If it works, who cares.
Is it possible to use anytest in inpainting, cause when I do, it gives me an error.
>>8144999>720x1024This has to be a joke
>>8145026Still not using refiner. Thanks.
>page 10>the only hdg thread still upWtf happened? Did the board get wiped?
any ideia how to tag a pantyhose like legwear thats stops on the knee? the opposite part of a thighhigh, thats like a shorts, but tighter
>>8145058Color on the tag doesn't matter that much thoughbeit
>>8145077I have been doing uh "high contrast" gens that I can't share here without causing irrational shitpost so, yeah
>>8145082that wasn't even meant to imply >nogenpage 10 after 2 days on /h/ is just a bit too fast
>>8145086looking at the catalog there's a fuckton of threads with <10 replies(probably 2-3 pages worth), so I'd guess that has something to do with it.also the last thread was pruned in the last two or so hours, so it seems like the threadspam is semi-recent.
>>8145060>If it works, who cares.it doesn't work>>8145079the color doesn't matter but she has little black ribbons on them that aren't showing up. i think that i'm just gonna change the token though
waifus should have giant milkable udders
>>8145086/h/ has been faster as of late.
>>8145098have you tried throwing anything else on the artist mix?
>>8145103I do all the timeJust depends on my mood
>>8145105what about lower weight on asura (asurauser) and more of another artist?
well at least we can post based 3d now
>>8145123Yeah I do that too
>>8145123asura is all you need
>>8145130nai has finally become a true competitor to pony...
>>8145131i'm cumming
>>8145131kek
unlimited asuraworks...
Is there a way to inpaint smaller or bigger boobs or reshape details like that? Im having better success fixing the picture by hand than by inpainting
>>8145006How much VRAM of the 24GB did it use max?
>>8144960How do you prompt nsfw on Flux?
>>8145170It used 23gb>>8145174You uhhh... don't, I'm using a lora that has some NSFW data, and even then it's really scuffed. Hopefully someone does a full fat finetune on it.
>take 3090 pcb>put 4090D gpu on it>allows more vram to be put on it>https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090d-with-48gb-and-rtx-4080-super-32gb-now-offered-in-china-for-cloud-computingwhat the actual fuck
>>8145098Also huge faucets to release it>>8145123It's such a strong tag on NAI it will always shine through
>>8145175>>8144960Looks really clean though. Even if flux is unreachable for most users to finetune/prompt on, it's a great thing it exists now, at least a a guarantee that local won't stagnate.
>>8145178Personally I think thats a good thing
>>8145179It's not like we would stagnate without either, this general has too many doomers.
Do vampires produce milk
Hey guys, treechan exists, don't forget about us.
ffs anon, it's bad enough you spam the shit out of every thread, you don't need to append inane questions to get you's/erp with the dudes here.
>>8145190I like that it doesn't prune metadata or ban stuff.I don't like that it's completely dead.It seems like only a small portion of people who get banned here move to post there.
>it's bad enough you spam the shit out of every threadposting gens = spamming, got it
>>8145193>spamWhat do you think these threads are for?
>>8145190>>8145193FYI this is the same person
>>8145203And this is me replying to two other posts I made
>>8145175I really hope excellent text on flux means it can learn complex symbols like tattoo etc. The text looks ever better than dalle.
>>8145190>>8145193>>8145203>>8145206All me btw. Also I'm trans, if that matters.
>>8145202Is this really just 2d fish base style? Looks so clean.
>>8145227Powerful.
>>8145190what's there to forget it was never memorable
>>8145229fish?
anyone save ncaaoo33_XL_15E_GT_V0.5.safetensors ? https://civitai.com/models/473662/ponyorstockings-orloliorncaaoo33orcute-style?modelVersionId=537517I seem to have missed it
>>8145258fuck off
>>8145259it's anime
>loras of mii charactersi've dug too deep
>>8145262its not even deep, like 3 scroll down
Would it be possible to do a lora extract of specific blocks?Like just grab the anatomy blocks from pony and turn that into a lora that can be used with other models to enhance their anatomical knowledge?
>>8145267I think that's what the schizo merge guy was trying to do. Only as a merge, not a lora. Taking specific blocks from pony and the rest from Arti.Of course, it didn't actually work.
>>8145268damn, I was thinking maybe it'd be easier just grab the blocks and load them on top of the model, instead of trying to merge them into it
>>8145270You can try going back through the archive with "schizo merge" as a keyword. I didn't fully understand him, but I think the issue was that each model stores stuff in different blocks. So moving Pony anatomy blocks over to Arti would lobotomize it style-wise.
>>8145273Oh I see, that's unfortunate
Guys help, my Forge shits the bed and stalls my computer when I swap models. Is there a setting I fucked up?
>>8145273wasn't there a dare merge thing or something that was supposed to solve this issue
>>8145215good gen
>>8145189Only if they can still breed.
>>8145282>>8145283no... not the chin sweat... it's so over
>>8145286it can't be helped. easier to spend 5 seconds to remove it than to spend a few minutes trying to make it look not like ass.
>>8145279thank
>flux(with inpainting for nipples)
does having a style lora at small weights (like less than 0.4) do anything at all? I keep seeing people that post image with one dominant artstyle at 0.8 and for some reason 1-2 other ones at 0.2 or 3. Seems completely pointless to me
>>8145291that would depend on the lora anon.although with pony most of the loras are really weak below 0.5.on 1.5 I remember Lykon loras frying shit at 0.2.
>>8145291if the lora is done properly?yes. it does.have you even tried it?here's an example test grid from a test lora showing 1, .3 and 0https://files.catbox.moe/2a7109.png
>>8145291If you have the catbox, just run the same thing with the lora removed. See if it does anything.
>>8145276Did you set it to hold more than one model in RAM despite having not enough memory?
>>8145304>>>/u/4230041
>>8143666>>8143690>>8144630https://files.catbox.moe/p8fwws.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3k7v5q.pngBeen losing the metadata when uploading inpainted images for some reason. Again tho as someone else already pointed out, the random vibes inserted matters a fair bit.Used Dr. Mario box art for this one for instance.
How do I gen something like this?
>>8145312download a shadow's house lora
>>8145321Is there any that exists outside of civitai? I feel like that one might be horribly baked
>>8145324i didnt even know one actually existed i was just making a random guess
>>8144960Did you just use typical Danbooru tagging for the captions?
>>8145278You have to remember that Pony wasn't as much of a "finetune" of base SDXL as a complete re-training with the insane learning rate he used. Since it was trained from scratch all the trainable blocks were rearranged semi-randomly to only fit the pony data, so any notion of a "style" block from base SDXL is irrelevant in pony.Pretty sure dare works since it's combining fine-tunes of the same base model, not completely re-trained models from scratch.
>>8145312>(silhouette, shadow, black skin:1.2)Silhouette is the main thing you are after.
>>8145326Nope.It's a danbooru tag based full description of the image. I've provided a refined example from my current project.I feed the image, and the danbooru tags to either GPT-4o or Claude and have them write captions. It works good enough.
>>8145327From a quick check there are at least two DARE-merged Pony models. Ponymagine 9.1 and BlipMix. Haven't tested either one though.
Shuten anon's prompts.....
>>8145342He was one of the only reasons I ever came to these threads so his absence is extremely painful
I like hebe loli but I genuinely don't understand the appeal of opossumachine
>>8142345holy based
>>8145008Sausage.
>>8145349It's painterly.
>>8145226dalle has 4 channel vae, flux has 16 channel
>>8145355It's good in that regard yes, but the girls it produces are too uwu owo and lean too much on the younger side of loli imo.
>>8145357Yeah, moe mogs everything. Your point?
>>8145357Yeah faces are weird and fingers are often very stubby are my complaints. But it's fine here and there, wouldn't use it the whole time.
>All avatarfags leave>Thread suddenly is civil againI for one don't miss any of them, not even b-chan
>>8145349It's an acquired taste for surehttps://files.catbox.moe/hpwxuq.png
>>8145362based
>>8145361>All avatarfags leaveNah, I'm still here.
>>8145365I am also herealways
do you ever just have sex so good you break your right hand wrist
>>8145361im still here
>>8145367very common tactic to prevent yourself from cumming
is there any way to mitigate style bleed when training character loras? I train on a lot of anime screencaps, but I dont want the style
>>8145371hello nochekaiserthere is an annoying way and an easier way
NETA IS SO CLOSE TO BEING GOOD GOD DAMN ITI asked Euge on civit if they plan on enhancing its nsfw knowledge, hopefully he says they plan on it pls plsp lssplspls
>>8145373uuh what are both ways?
Bake before 300 images?
>>8145378give me a cut of your 25$ lora and i'll tell you
>>8145379Chill, there's still 9 new threads needed for this one to fall off. We will make it... surely...
Another morning, another 5 random loras downloaded from civitaiAnother morning, another 5 random tests with new lorasAnother morning, another 5 loras deleted from my hard drive
>>8145381I can blow the last 200 of my lifetime anals. This one seems to have lost the "1boy, sex from behind" somewhere along the way.
>>8142246https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit?tab=readme-ov-fileLora training for Flux.1Please train em gpubros
>>8143149actually cool
>>8145380what bro
>>8145386At least you dont let them stockpile in your "to test" folder, I have 400
>>8145388ok ill train one and then not share it while posting results here :)
>>8145388>You currently need a GPU with at least 24GB of VRAM to train FLUX.1vramletbros...
>>8145395You dropped your "nvidia only" on the floor
>>8145376Would have to be a complete retrain probably.
>>8145394Honestly fine with that. Just don't make it degenerate and show comparisons with sdxl.
any of the prime bakers not training on flux are missing out tbdesu
>>8145388>Have 24gb vram>Don't know shit about training lorasWell it's too hot for gpu workloads anyway
>>8145391This looks like a fusion of three different arknights.
time to train agaain i guess
>nvidia delayed 50 series specifically to keep people from training new models and fuck over localScumbag NAI bribed them 100%.
>>8145409Delayed because they can sell older ones with better margins. That's what a lack of competition does.
>>8145409why would nvidia give big compoote to """gamer""" peasants?
>>8145406Are they cute? I only play Azur Lane.
>>8145412thiswhy do anything when the competition is in an eternal game of catchup?
>>8145412>>8145416If bitsandbytes and Meta(xformers) stop being nvidia shills, competition will rise up
decent slop, might become effortpost later
>>8145371anyone has a follow-up on this?
>>8145416Hoping france manages to win thier lawsuit against nvidia and make them cough up the trade secrets that make cuda cores so good with AI.
>>8145415They're crazies and hags, mostly
>>8145421https://rentry.org/d2ckzxmq#difference-trainingtl;dr train a style lora on screenshots of the anime without the character. merge the style with the base model. train your character on the merge
>>8145361>not even b-chanthat's rude anon it's my birthday today
>spank mark add floating hand on the ass half of the timewhat why?
>>8145437I've never once seen a spank mark gen and not look like a weird tiny midget hand or as if the guy had dainty feminine fingers anyways, it's sparing you
>>8145436Happy Birthday
>>8145440My spank mark look perfectly sized but im getting the hand of god impacted on the ass every second gen
>>8145436happy birthday b-chan, thank you again for helping out with character lora
>>8145436please stop larping you're harming b-chan's reputation
>>8145444>>8145440Yeah I try spank mark every once in a while it either is 3rd degrees burns of impact or Diego Montoya's enemy, the 6 lingered man, keeps slapping my gens' ass. Even with playing with weights it seems to do nothing with it
>>8145436Happy B-day B-chama
>>8145453>Diego Montoya's enemy, the 6 lingered man, keeps slapping my gens' ass.Holy kek
Messy style but I love the faces it makes
>>8145362Location of these loras so I can report them to the jannies, my good sir.
>>8145458erotic expressions go a long way
>>8145458Truly a conundrum when you love the face but hate the rest of the style, wish there was a way to separate part of what you want to use from a style
>>8145418nya
so, after all this time, are doras worth training?
>>8145465>gen image>face detailer with other artist>upscale with low denoise on original artist
>>8145466absolute kino
>>8145468already tried and that work like shit, its better to just inpaint, also what if I want to keep something else than the face
>>8145468>gen image>low denoise img2img with a bunch of style loras
>>8145470interesting, worked well for me before. probably the artists you use i guess>something else than the faceinpaint, i just gave a suggestion that could potentially be automated
>>8145466nya indeed
>>8144981Not sure if the nai api guy will update it to how OG Forge works now, since that would break the extension on A1111. On this case it is not because gradio 4, but because modules/processing.py is different as how A1111/Older Forge/reForge does it.Illya modified his for his new backend.
>>8145436happy birthdaypost ass
anyone got foocus or brushnet working on pony?
>>8145399highly probable, unfortunately I really really need something to replace pony, because I'm really really tired of how ugly it is
>>8145479hey thats a goodcheek bulge, mine always look weird or don't work. What's the prompt if its a raw gen?
>>8145229Yes, it is. But it's a lot easier for something to look clean when it's that up close.>>8145290I'm exciting about images finally being able to hold things.>>8145349I just love cute girls of all ages.
>>8145488probably the lora cheek bulge
>>8145487>I really really need something to replace pony, because I'm really really tired of how ugly it isSaw an anime screencap lora pics the other day, was looking at it and thinking - wow, that's really nice, absolutely no signs of ponyslop - how is that possible?Turns out it was a 1.5 lora... kek
>>8145487if style is your only complain then there is plenty of lora and model that fix that
>>8145490>cute girls of all agesDoes this include women?
>>8145494lel>>8145495The problem with pony is that if you've stared long enough at it you start seeing things that are consistent regardless of lorasAnd there are things you simple cant fix with pony like rigid posing and boring compositions
>>8145487What artist styles do you like?
>>8145499>rigid posing and boring compositionsThis is mostly a result of trying to fix the style
https://civitai.com/models/563245/neytharone-ponyxl-drillemilio-or-dorimoge5-or-loconThis Lora prob will get taken down soon, got a DM on civit from some QA tester from "New blood interactive" for genning imgs with it claiming the artist >sees it as a personal attack on his creative ability and dignity as an artist.Also threatening legal action/DMCA>as the character you’ve trained the model off of will be featured in an unannounced game. And this could be considered a leak/copyright infringement.Even tho all I did was post imgs as a review on the lora page but removed em after this DM since wanna avoid trouble. Figured to share in case someone wants it before creator removes it since prob also got the DM if they messaging other random people like this.
>>8145499every model has things you can notice even nai so everything will get boring with timeI agree about the posing and compositions tho, I would add shitty background also
>>8145501I don't have much of a preference, I like playing around with all kinds>>8145502>>8145505Yeah I suppose, and totally. Bad background can totally ruin the atmosphere of an image
>>8145504Probably fake honestly
>>8145504What sort of trouble do you want to avoid? At worst Civit will delete your pic.
>>8145496As long as they're cute and a girl, then yes.
>>8145488Its a lora I made that I will be posting to civ today at somepoint
The tag half-erect work for you guys?
>>8145508You are are prob right but the legal stuff had me worried since I have no idea what they could do and figured to remove and avoid whatever could come.
>>8145504>genning fan art of a character for an in development game is now copyright infringement I know the artist may be mad because they trained without their permission but cmon man.
>>8145518The worst they can do is ask civitai to take it down, you have 0 risk of anything
>>8145361>>8145436B-B-chama...!! Mou...!
>>8145371The easier way is to include fan art in your dataset. It doesn't have to be a lot but a few pictures goes a long way to reducing the bias, still more is better. You can cheat by only using nudes if you don't want to mess up the on model clothing designs from your screencaps.
>>8145419Thighs too thin for Raikou
>>8145501>>8145506Should have read the styles from your filename. one of those artists really likes black hair. No lora needed on this model. Release: TBD
i think we are honestly going to make it bros
does fooocus inpaint work with pony?
>>8145541I've been meaning to try for weeks. Maybe tonight.
me on the right
>>8145547me in the middle
>>8145547where testicle
>>8145549that dude is an eunuch
>>8145547tumor dick
this is it lads, the last /hdg/
>>8145539I love small breasts bros...
RIP
>>8145547These assholes will always find imperfections. Just ignore them. Nice Ishikei!
ANY BAKERS?
>>8145567They're busy eating their own bread
>>8145567yes, what is it?
>>8145567My baking my breakfast right now
>>8145556feels great
5 fingers tag on pony, yay or nay?
>>8145576What is it supposed to do?
>>8145576I used to use it but I don't anymore, try putting fewer digits, and extra digits in negs
>>8145580Supposedly leverages the tag from e621 where it leverages characters with more human hands instead of a lot of the anthro characters that may have less or more fingers. Feels mostly like a placebo.
>>8145538make what?
>>8145576>>8145584No it works pretty well in my experience. It's just that it forces very basic hand positions. It makes sure you can see all 5 fingers at all times so I really only use it if I'm doing outstretched hand or something.
it's up>>8145596>>8145596>>8145596
>>8145125catbox Please
>>8145391catbox please?
>>8145436Wild, me too.Happy Birthday! Hope you really enjoyed your day